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Hallo Saikou,

Do not mind them. They think because we did not make the learning of "ABC" our top occupation, we do not know abotu this world.


The Sarahuels, did not and are not taking the risk ,these "novices" are taking by using boats or crossing the Sahara to reach Spain, et. We are too smart for such "hopeless ways" of seeking greaner pastures.


All the other people doing money mongergin today are trying to learn from us, the Sarahules.


May I ask, why was no Sarahule diamond dealer implicated in the UN Diamond case? But Baba Job and all the  other "novices" were?


Saikou, tell them that "money speaks Sarahule" and if they want ot copy one or two "secrets" let them learn Sarahule in addition to their English It is better than they risk ending as "fish-food" in the Atlantic!


One last thing, if we withdraw our monies from the banks in Gambia, they will starve! They are lucky, we wil not be so bad to our own small cousins!


Emman
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-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:40:36 +0100
Von: samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]>
An: [log in to unmask]
Betreff: Re: The road a showdown over illegal migration

> Bass,
> I seriously wanted to ignore you,it seems you are on a mission: I swear I
> know that it`s +been a long time since you last tackle "mono" and I am just
> being told that the TOkolor`s are never known to like "Mono". Keep this in
> mind,we are too advance to venture through the Anlantic,we have enough
> bank statements in circulation to make a direct journey. Even you your self
> know how we make our monies.......through pure sweat,picking up potatoes or
> tomatos; oh your clansmen,just forget their trade Mark...
>  for  freedom
>  saiks> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:00:20 +0100> From: [log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: The road a showdown over illegal migration> To:
> [log in to unmask]> > I think I owe it to my Sarahuleh clansmen not to allow the
> mankasoo people> have the last word on this important subject.Despite
> Mr.Samateh's breast> beating triumphalism,Mr Emmams data supporting his claim
> have less than one> leg to stand on.Anybody who has been watching Gambia
> Tv.knows that the> totality of boat people intercepted by agents of the Gambia
> Police Force> over recent months hail not from the Alongharis of the Gambia
> ,but Mankanaso> capitals like Alkali Kunda, Jarjari, Sali Kenyeh and the
> like.Even more> damning than that, eighty percent of the twenty-thousand
> Gambians resident> in Spain are Badibunkas.That is an outrageous
> disproportion,considering the> fact that their share of the Gambia population is well
> below ten> percent.SoEmmams attempt to pin this one on the Sarahulehs is
> doomed> to failure.> > Regards Basss> > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> > > On
> 8/17/07, samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:> >> > Emman,> > Who are
> you ? I just did not want to talk,waiting for great people like> > you to
> tell Bass the real thing.Thanks for doing so.> > For Freedom> > Saiks> Date:
> Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:00:09 +0200> From: [log in to unmask]>> > Subject: Re: The
> road a showdown over illegal migration> To:> > [log in to unmask]>
> > Hello Bass Drammeh,> > Thanks, I just to> > help add power to your this
> point:> > > "Badibunka discovery has made such a> > splash and impact in the
> Gambia that> even the proverbial money mongers of> > the Gambia,the
> Sarrahulehs have started contemplating abandoning their> > traditional diamond
> speculatiing adventures in Congo and Angola for the> > Spanish bandwagon."> >
> > Experices trallevers say that the proverbial money> > mogners of the
> Gambia, the Sarahules, have bee in SPAIN since in the 1960s> > at the same
> time they "conquered" France.> > > If you have time, you can> > visit the town
> of Gambisarra, Allunhari, Garawol, Sabi, Kumbeja, etc to see> > the
> bombastic villas!> > > So their Baddibunak "cousins" are following their> >
> examples - 40 years later - not the other way round.> > Emman Salaam> > > >> >
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------> Datum: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:26:17> >
> +0100> Von: BASS DRAMMEH <[log in to unmask]>> An:> >
> [log in to unmask]> Betreff: Re: The road a showdown over illegal> > migration> > > The
> entire Badibou landscape has now been profoundly> > transformed thanks to> >
> the Euro money transfers coming from the Badibunka> > diaspora resident in>
> > the> > various Spanish provinces.Most of the> > erstwhile Mankanaso
> farms> > in Badibou have now given way to modern> > building complexes with
> most of> > the> > modern amenities known in Badibou> > as Self Containoo,
> powered by solar> > panels and made livable by the access> > to clean running
> water and stand and> > ceiling fans.All of a sudden the> > Badibunkas have
> made a powerful> > discovery!> > They have just discovered> > that in lieu
> of selling Fogga Jays (used> > clothes)> > at the Sukuru Kunda> > market for
> donkey years without making ends meet,they> > could just sell> > their
> stalls to the Faanafaanas or Nigerians for sixty> > thousand> > Dalasis,pay
> the Spannish middlemen for forty thousand,use the> > balance as> > pocket
> money whilst trying to get work in> > Spain.Andnotwithstanding the> >
> occasional tragedies and misshaps here> > and there,the> > Badibunka> > discovery
> has made such a splash and impact in the Gambia that> > even the> >
> proverbial money mongers of the Gambia,the Sarrahulehs have> > started> >> >
> contemplating abandoning their traditional diamond speculatiing adventures>> > >
> in Congo and Angola for the Spanish bandwagon.> > > > Anybody who knows> >
> the strenght and intensity of this wave in the Gambia> > right now, knows>
> > that not even a ten million Euro skill center is capable> > of stemming>
> > either the wave or dampening the spirits or the NERVES, as it> > is> >> >
> commoly known here.But that is not to say that we should not accept the>
> >> > offer.Of course we should! We need that Skill Center regardless of who>
> >> > gives> > it to us and what the conditions for constructing it
> are.TheGambia> > government on its part will do some window dressing here and> >
> there,if> > nothing else but to impress upon the spanish authorities that
> it> > is doing> > something about the matter.That is how the Game is played.>
> >> > > > The Badibunkas and their emulators,in the meantime,will continue
> to> > devise> > more ingenius and dangerous ways of getting into Barcelona
> and> > other> > Spanish> > cities.That wave will continue unabated
> ,regardless of> > what the Gambian> > Government will do,until the dangers and
> risks involved> > have reached a> > critical mass,or atleast the Gambia public
> perception of> > those dangers> > reach> > that point.Short of reaching
> that point,any> > attempts to stem the tide is> > doomed to failure.And who
> said You Cannot> > Have Your Cake And Eat It At The> > Same Time?!> > > >
> Regards Basss> > > >> > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> > > > > > > > > > On
> 8/14/07, Edie Sidibeh <> > [log in to unmask]> wrote:> > >> > > As you
> rightfully protested,> > this is really a meaningful analysis even> > >
> whereas, I am not good in> > numbers, I can understand the simplicity of> > its> >
> > analysis. Then> > again, Dr. Jaiteh, orthodox of Gambian believe also> >
> protested> > > the> > fact that, what is meant to happen cannot be
> prevented, therefore> > those>> > > > who are meant to brake the barrier and enter
> Spain, will or cannot be> >> > > compromised by 1 million dalasis.> > >> >
> > However, Million Dalasi is a> > huge amount if they spend it rightfully
> and> > > will benefit lots and lots> > of the youths as well as the country
> to gain> > > skillful and meaningful> > education regarding if coupled
> with better> > educator> > > in the said> > Fields of studies. undeniably,
> Africa have placed herself in> > a> > > Marcy> > situation in the eye of the
> west and therefore, before we open up> > our> >> > > eyes we have to be
> cleaver in playing their games of politic by> >> > accepting> > > their offers
> and put it in good use to benefit our countries> > and the> > people.> > >
> I am well aware of the fact that I am a dreamer but> > just a wisdom.> >
> however,> > > west are well aware of the fact of> > corruption level in
> Africa and> > therefore> > > send billions of dollars to> > Africa knowing quite
> well that they will not> > be> > > use to their> > purposes but end up in
> their own banks to yet make addition> > > profit on> > the same loan given
> to us just like our coffees and other> > natural> > >> > resources.> > >> >
> > How many coffee factories are in the west? and how many> > chocolate> >
> > factories? how many employees does those factories employed?> > how much
> do> > > they get the raw materials and how much do they sell the> > finish
> product> > back> > > to us? therefore playing their game by taking> > their
> money for loan and> > put> > > it in proper education and job creation> >
> for our people and later asked> > for> > > dept cancellation will then be>
> > proper and profitable for our continent I> > > assumed. I personally
> think,> > corruption and mismanagement played a> > > significant part in our> >
> development. If this was not the case, Africa by> > now> > > should be> >
> heaven on earth due to the our rightful trillions of dollars> > pump> > >
> in> > from the west which end up bach to where it came from just like our> >
> >> > product.> > > Edi> > >> > > Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:>> > > > IThe employment figures for the same group show only 454,682
> (66%) do> >> > not> > > know what the Daily Observer mean by illegal
> migration but> > >> > makes me wonder what this showdown will bring. First, may I
> ask how many> >> > > of the 20,000 "illegal migrants" in Spain are minors?
> and what is the> > >> > breakdown of their educational status? Also would
> increase training of> > >> > Gambians in agriculture, carpentry, fishinng,
> construction, electricity> > >> > really curb this "illegal migration"? The
> 2003 census figures show of> > >> > the 689,201 Gambians aged 15 years and
> over, 272,762 (40%) had no> > >> > education, 52,517 (8%) no more than
> primary edu, 176930 (26%) some for> > >> > of secondary education, 13360 (under
> 2%) with vocational training> > >> > including teachers, 2309 (3 tenths of
> 1%) with undergrad education, 2357> >> > > (3 tenths of 1%) graduate
> education and 1467 (2 tenths of 1%) post> > >> > graducate education. Please note
> that about about 167499(23% ) claim not> >> > > to belong to any of the
> above groups.> > >> > > It is interesting to note> > that only 6,133 Gambians
> living in the Gambia> > > in 2003 reported having a> > university degree
> (undergrad to Post grad).> > > You wonder how that figure> > compare to that
> of all Gambian-born degree> > > holders? A database of> > health
> professionals emigrating from Africa> > > (Michael Clemens and> > Gunilla Pettersson
> 2006) showed that there are 46> > > (53%) Gambian-born> > physicians
> (Doctors in medicine) liing in nine> > > countries abroad> > compared to 40
> living in the Gambia. The number of is> > > much higher with> > practicing
> nurses with 282 living in nine countries> > > abroad compared to> > 144 in the
> Gambia. It is interesting to note is that> > > none of these were> > said
> to be living in Spain.> > >> > >> > > reported being employed. Of these> >
> over 215,592 (47%) are crop producers> > > agriculture, 63,978 (14%) in> >
> Service, Shop & Market Sales; 13% in> > > crafts and related trade, 10%> >
> elementary occupation(whatever that is),> > > 3% professionals, 6% clerks,>
> > technicials and associate professionals.> > > With the government all
> but> > abandoned buying groundnuts, you wonder how> > > many of the 215,592
> would> > stay on the land. And if they do not would be> > > re-trained under
> the new> > partnership to promote social and professional> > > cohesion
> (whatever that> > is)?> > >> > > The truth is, someone must be kidding to
> believe that a 1> > million Euro> > > skill center will check this "illegal
> migration". The new> > partnership if> > > anything is the latest in this
> global outsourcing> > project. In effect> > > lets pay the Gambian government
> one million Euros to> > police our border> > > for us. While the partnership
> may help Spain cater> > for her citizens,> > > what does it leave the
> Gambian people? It would help> > to know that about> > > 665,000 (48%) of the
> total population are between 10> > and 34 years old.> > > If the government
> is to succeed, it must present a> > convincing case that> > > it is not in
> effect and agent of the Spanish> > border police. And that it> > > as the
> people's representative is> > representing their interest by> > > accepting
> 1 million Euro for closing the> > border.> > >> > > Failure to present a
> convincing case could leave a very> > significant> > > proportion of the
> population feeling deprived of their only> > opportunity> > > to a better life.
> Like a desperate herd breaking into a> > neigbor's> > > garden, it should
> not surprise us to see desperate citizens> > doing> > > desperate things to
> survive.> > >> > >> > > Malanding Jaiteh> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >
> Gambia: Curbing Illegal Migration> > >> > >> > >> > The Daily Observer
> (Banjul)> > >> > > 10 August 2007> > > Posted to the web> > 13 August 2007> >
> >> > > The Gambia and Spain, following the June 2007 Joint> > Committee
> Plan,> > > agreed yesterday to strengthen the partnership> > agreement in order
> to> > > check illegal immigration of minors, and to> > promote the social
> and> > > professional cohesion of this category.> > >> >> > > By financing
> 1M Euros Skills Training Centre, where young Gambians will> >> > > receive
> and venture into several activities (agriculture, carpentry,> > >> >
> fishing, construction, electricity), it calls for the setting up of a> > >> >
> permanent mechanism, aimed at curbing illegal immigration through> > >> >
> prevention, social-pedagogical and formation measures.> > >> > > It> >
> recommends also that when young Gambians are well-trained, they will> > >> >
> notably be exposed to the dangers posed by illegal migration.> > >> >
> Consequently, they would act legally to Spain or other places.> > >> > > As> > the
> Gambian community in Spain already attained the level of 20,000> > >> >
> migrants, the way forward lies on the necessity to move towards a real> > >> >
> showdown over illegal migration.> > >> > > Even if the issue exposes a deep>
> > and bitter rift within the public> > > opinion, there is a need to
> sensitise> > people on the dangers relating to> > > illegal migration.> > >> > >>
> > >> >> >
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