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>Subject: FW: Coloureds consolidating African Unity in Khoisan 
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>Coloureds of southern Africa consolidating African Unity in Khoisan 
> 
>Namibia has quite a number of people who refer to themselves as Coloureds or 
>Basters. In fact history has until today never managed to separate the 
>difference between a Bantu, a Khoisan or a Nama, to mention just a few. 
>Pigmentation has been dismissed as a criteria to determine culture. 
>Therefore, understanding our history will eliminate artificial hatred 
>created by a historic process. Neville de Bryn transcribes. 
> 
>A radio interview/discussion braodcasted on Bush-Radio in Capetown 07/11/02, 
>did not only turn out to be constructive and lively, but it was emotional 
>and aggressive on one side and heated on the academic side. Cape Town-based 
>Khoisan Activist, Zenzile Khoisan of Garib Communications went to seek some 
>answers from Professor Kwesi K. Prah of the Centre for Advanced Studies of 
>African Society, CASAS, in Cape Town. 
> 
>Zenzile: I'm trying to find out what is the meaning of Khoisan today. Is it 
>separate from a broader cultural movement throughout the continent? The 
>Khoisan issue has come up in Botswana, Namibia and South Africa (SA), 
>creating a firm ground for Khoisan Consciousness. So what is your reading? 
> 
>Prah: I'm happy that this problems are arising now because they have been 
>buried for too long especially in the case of SA and Namibia largely because 
>of the apartheid system. Remember that nowhere on the African continent was 
>there an encounter of europeans with Africans as traumatic in effect on the 
>Africans as in SA, Namibia, Angola and Zimbabwe. But I often say apartheid 
>was a very successful system in a sense that it manage, not only to keep 
>people apart, but it managed to affect the psychology of the various tribal 
>groups in southern Africa to such a degree that they got a lot people to 
>stay the way they wanted them to think. In the first instance African 
>languages were used to divide them up into socalled, quote and quote nations 
>or ethnic groups, divided on the basis of the most perilous criteria in 
>order to prove the myth that all Africans are different and therefore there 
>is no majority in African situation. But beyond that, the first groups they 
>encounter in the Cape were basically the Khoisan people of southern Africa. 
>But remember the Khoisan stretch to the rest of Africa, the most 
>northeasterly groups, in Tanzania, in Angola and the socalled pygmies - the 
>people of the Congo Basin, and they are also basically similar groups which 
>have adopted differently to different environments in the forests of that 
>part of Africa. Basically the Khoisan speaking peoples are just like any 
>other African group on the continent, they were not separated from other 
>Africans. The differences lies more in cultural behavior, cultural habits 
>and adaptations to different environmental conditions. If you move in 
>Botswana, there is no way where you can distinguish a Khoisan as different 
>from the Tswana, it doesn't exist, especially where the two cultural groups 
>live close together. I lived in Botswana for five years and if you go to the 
>hinterland of Botswana, there's no cultural difference basically between a 
>Khoisan and a Tswana or Bantu speaking person, is just a difference in 
>language, in certain customs and certain adaptations to their environments. 
>If you look at the southern most boundaries of Botswana, you have the Xhosa, 
>the Sotho, the Zulu, the Ndebele and so on. Particularly amongst the Xhosas, 
>you will find that there were lots of Capers and the Xhosa varieties which 
>shows the extend of inter-penetration. The cultural difference between the 
>two groups are totally non-existent. The myth was created under apartheid 
>that the descendants of the Khoisan, who in this part of Africa, have 
>largely been taken advantage of by the cultural impositions of the 
>westerners and the erosion of the cultural belongings of the Khoisan people 
>has gone to such a profound grief that a good number lost their language and 
>their customs. But the Dutch did not only destroy their language, they also 
>took advantage of the African women, hence the concentration of the socalled 
>Colored children in the western Cape. It was not a case of accepted 
>legitimized marriages which went on there, it was rape, to create the 
>genesis of the Coloreds. We know for a fact that in 1658 when the first 
>group of slaves arrived here, they were all from west Africa. We know that 
>slaves were brought in from the Malay archipelago, Indonesian and Malaysia, 
>we know that some slaves were brought in from India and we know that they 
>all become servants and slaves of the Dutch settlers. But we also know that 
>a mixture took place and that mixture has gone on uninterruptedly to the 
>present day. But the greatest contributing substructure to all of these, has 
>been the Khoisan people, suffering most grievously with the cultural 
>denationalisation of the Khoisan's peoples' culture. There was also an added 
>tendency by the settlers to create the myth that the Khoisan were different 
>from other Africans and the sadness of the situation is that the descendants 
>of the Khoisan came to believe that lie. I have myself seen many books, 
>stories, told to that effect and I will show you one, Knowledge In Black and 
>White, a history book which was first published in 1958 for secondary school 
>pupils in SA. The author wrote and I quote; "The bushmen, little yellow skin 
>people barely 153 centimetres in heights, the second inhabitants of SA, 
>probably having been compelled to migrate from central-southern Asia. 
>According to one theory one section went .... southeast, occupying the Malay 
>Peninsula, the Phillipines and Australia. Another section travelling west 
>entered Spain, while a third traveled its way into Africa where they 
>gradually push south back. They were gradually pushed south by stronger 
>Hamites occupying the Nile region. In succession other races entered Africa 
>from the east. The Hottentots, the people a little bigger and a little 
>darker than the Bushmen, probably originated in Somaliland as a result of 
>adversaries between the Bushmen and Hamites. According to the generally 
>accepted theory, they migrated southwest to the region of the Great Lakes, 
>where they remain for several centuries and then followed the Atlantic Coast 
>and eventually crossed the Orange river. By the 16th century they were to be 
>found along the banks of the Orange River. The Europeans in the Cape did not 
>come into close contact with the Bantu speaking people until the 18th 
>century, for they, like the Europeans, where .... into southern Africa. In 
>all probability their original home was central Asia. They are believed to 
>have entered Africa in large numbers". This is from these book. Anybody with 
>any serious familiarity with the history and organisation of African society 
>would marvel at such .... falsehood of such historiography. Millions of 
>South Africans were educationally .... indoctrinated in an unquestionable 
>end on such falsehood sucked out of the thumb. So it is not surprising when 
>I say apartheid was so successful that we have a situation here where the 
>descendants of the Khoisan deny that they are Africans. So why is it 
>important? Its important because it means that the clock is beginning to 
>turn in the proper direction now that people's awareness is beginning to 
>reemerge, people's proper urgent sense of historical and cultural identity 
>is beginning to become properly rekindled and awaken and these in my view 
>must be welcome. But we must be careful that it doesn't very soon become 
>some sort of a rear guard action of Colortism again. Coloreds were kept 
>separate, they felt themselves separate from other Africans. Now there are 
>some people who wants to use these emerging (Khoisan Consciousness) movement 
>to say again "we are the original inhabitants and the others do not belong 
>here". In other words they want to replay their apartheid game again on 
>exclusivism by turning the other way round. There are lots of people who 
>still don't want to accept that they are just part and parcel of the general 
>African history. And the difference between the Khoisan and other Africans 
>is not in terms of lightness of skin or anything like that, it is more a 
>difference in cultural habits and adaptations to their environments. If you 
>travel around Africa, Africans are of different types. You find Ethiopian 
>types who look different from what you find along the neck of the Nile 
>(river) further south and when you come into the Rwanda/Burundi area, you 
>find another physical type. If you go westwards into the Congo you'll find 
>different types, you come south you'll find slightly but variants of types. 
>But it doesn't mean that they are not Africans, we are all Africans. We 
>speak different languages, sometimes looking different but we are Africans, 
>they are all Africans. 
> 
>Zenzile: The people's heritage, for those calling themselves different from 
>the San or the Bantu - Coloureds, Basters, Oorlamse Nama or Griqua, has been 
>lost. Their culture has been stolen and distorted even in an anachronistic 
>proportion as you quoted from the book. What makes us who we are? There are 
>people who have identified the need to return, as our brother Amilcar Gabral 
>calls it, "to the source", as an act of survival, preservation and historic 
>duty. The western-Cape for example, the land of the socalled Coloureds, is 
>one of the greatest obstacles to the establishment of African nationalism in 
>SA. A place has been prepared there, they don't even know that they are 
>allowed to sit at that table. There are people who have come now and say the 
>the actual Khoisan has the right to sit the table, even though we don't know 
>our heritage, even though our language was banned and our traditions and 
>large parts of our culture have been laid to waste by a historical process. 
>Now, anthropologists have reconfigured, reconnected and re-net something to 
>hold on to and it has come out as a Khoisan Renaissance or Khoisan 
>Consciousness. In all this, the Coloured of southern Africa seem to be most 
>affected. 
> 
>Prah: What is happening to the African in this part of Africa is not 
>fundamentally different from what is happening to the Africans everywhere 
>else. Its only a matter of degree that this part is the most extreme case of 
>cultural denationalisation of the Africans, but it has happened everywhere 
>with Africans oppressed, not only by the westerners but also by others. You 
>must remember that in the history of Africa until imperialism, the first 
>imperialists who denationalise the African cultures were Arab imperialists, 
>started at least 1500 years ago before western imperialism started. And what 
>we are blaming is not changing color, because Africans changed too much. If 
>you go for example to the northern parts of Africa, the people who look like 
>South Africans in terms of color and the African language .... you will find 
>some of them as black as me in the Sudan, who although is an Arab is black, 
>because culture which is the key is not the biology which determines color. 
>He will go and catch another black, who is culturally on the other side and 
>calls that one an African and would sell that one. The enslavement of 
>Africans is still going on to the present day in the Afro-Arab-world. But 
>the problem in SA have for so long been saddled in this color thing that for 
>too many people it is still a reference point. If you go to a place like 
>Ghana, remember that the last person does not look different from you in 
>terms of color. If he comes here (SA) they will call him a Coloured, but if 
>you call him a Coloured he will probably shoot you, because he doesn't see 
>himself as different from the other people there. He speaks the same 
>language, they eat the same type of food, he likes the same type of music, 
>he goes to the same church. Nowhere on the African continent will you find 
>any group calling itself Coloured than in Angola, Namibia, SA and to a 
>dminishing-extend Zimbabwe, and yet it doesn't mean that there are no people 
>in SA who will not be called Coloureds in other parts of Africa, there are 
>millions. That shows that it is a social construct created by the historical 
>forces of oppression in southern Africa. So I think that this movement which 
>has started is a great thing to reclaim their belonging, culturally, 
>historically and finding a place within the African framework. 
> 
>Zenzile: Will the Africanisation of the Coloureds into Khoisan succeed? 
> 
>Prah: Strategically that is inevitable in my view. But its not going to be 
>just a smooth one track process. There are going to be setbacks, there are 
>going to be others who'll say "we don't want to have anything to do with 
>that", but their numbers will increasingly diminish and I have made the 
>argument that very soon you'll have more and more people who would be 
>describe themselves as Coloureds or Baster, but who would be speaking Xhosa, 
>Zulu and Sotho, Nama, Damara, Silozi, Oshiwambo... and who would be part of 
>those groups. When you go to places like Botswana or Swaziland you will see 
>those type of people and a small number of them are in Angola and Zimbabwe. 
>Its not going to stop. But this is not a problem exclusive for SA. In west 
>Africa you will find lots of people like that, they don't speak any African 
>language, and don't know some of the traditional cultural behaviors, but 
>they are part of the struggle to recoup and regain, to claim their belonging 
>in total. But when we do that I think its important also to remember that we 
>must reclaim ourselves as well, and do things with a mind towards openness 
>and not exclusivity. 
> 
>Zenzile: A lot of the people who currently speak Khoi-Khoi-gowab 
>(Damara/Nama), which is one of the Khoi languages, are homeless in northern 
>SA. There are some small pockets of people, who still follow the old ways of 
>medicine, who still do the old things, how you make the fire, how you sit 
>around the fire, how you welcome visitors in your house, how do you build 
>your house etc. But here in the Western Cape and in Windhoek you find an 
>urbanised grouping of people, who have lived in walls and who are somewhat 
>gone shy of this "Africa". They know they have nowhere to go as the only 
>chance for the socalled Coloured is to rid mentacide from their future 
>sibblings. They must teach their children that they had a language here and 
>they did not just come here five minutes ago. There is rock paintings which 
>are the present of our ancestors. What is happening in various parts of the 
>subeconomic townships, people are taking removing colonial statues of the 
>Portuguese, the Dutch, the Germans and Irish which they though is their 
>ancestry and they are wearing little bracelets and stuff like that, and they 
>say "I'm a Khoisan, I'm a Khoikhoi, I'm not a Coloured anymore". Now 
>somebody say you don't circumcise, you don't know your villages. It seems 
>that History and African Science is mostly known by an elite onlyand does 
>not get through to the people who need it, like the Coloureds. But how do 
>you think the Khoisan Renaissance Movement can gain a sense of consciousness 
>to go and get the cultural belonging back, to bring it to the table at the 
>people who have not been in a privileged position?. How do we prevent the 
>situation where the cultural belongings become located in a small arena 
>where a specific group of people, an elite goes and finds it then interprets 
>it and present it to a person like you rather than to the common people and 
>how do we bring Khoisan consciousness in a shortest possible time rather 
>than waiting for the next two-hundred years? 
> 
>Prah: The questions you are asking are not questions which are only valid 
>for Coloureds just a smaller group of Africans, but to the whole of 
>Africans. I was recently in west Africa, where I came across lots of people, 
>man, woman and children speaking English when in fact the father and mother 
>speak an African language, but choose to speak English to their children 
>.... and they speak English to each other in public. So you ask yourself, in 
>SA and Namibia this was forced by the jackboots down the throats of others 
>over centuries to denationalise the cultures of the Khoisan people, who 
>today call themselves Coloureds. But it is the elite's who are carrying out 
>that process to reverse the cultural imperialism of arts, African science 
>and languages. On whose behalf? Its obvious. Unfortunately it has been a 
>hard task to convince them. There are more parts of the western culture in 
>them than the culture of the masses. The questions you are asking has one 
>simple answer and that's the work we are doing here, to find a language 
>which carries the collective historical memory of the Khoi people. People 
>say the Khoisan languages are all gone. Fortunately they are not all gone 
>but they are facing great pressure. After centuries of pressure they are 
>under great siege. The KhoiKhoi-gowab for example is very widely spoken in 
>Namibia and other parts of southern Africa. The question of what sort of 
>privilege or what sort of status do they have in the society, you can say 
>the same thing to all the African languages. What sort of status do they 
>have? The elite is doing it for the grassroots so that activist like 
>yourself can work on the development and use of African languages. The elite 
>are not just here for the problem of the Khoisan, or the Khoisan Renaissance 
>Movement, but they for the whole of Africa and its diaspora. We are facing 
>the same problem of the dominance and preference of western cultural usage 
>by Africans. What is happening here is part of a wider African process. But 
>in SA, there were peculiarities of extreme oppression, cultural oppression 
>of the Africans in a way which we didn't see in other parts of Africa. You 
>see the extend of the destruction apartheid caused in the former settler 
>societies of Namibia, SA, Zimbabwe, Algeria etc. But elsewhere, the same 
>thing went on and later on, the process was carried out willingly by 
>Africans doing the work which the colonialists were doing first. 
>We need to get there in order for Africans to be emancipated. We can't be 
>emancipated on the basis of English, Arabic, French or Portuguese. We'll 
>only be emancipated when we are into our languages, into history and into 
>our cultures to construct our future on the basis of our belonging just like 
>everybody else in the world does. 
> 
>Zenzile: WE are failing to retain integrity in the process of searching for 
>the identity for the socalled Coloured. Probably the most widely spoken 
>language in SA and by a small group in namibia, is Afrikaans because if you 
>can go to any taxi-rank, the linguafranca, no matter the reflection, as 
>always, is Afrikaans and that's the language transporting people around. 
> 
>Prah: You can say that Afrikaans is borrowed Dutch, which is being twisted 
>around and so forth. But remember it is a language that was created by the 
>servants and the slaves of the Dutch. It was not the Dutch themselves who 
>created it. It was created the way Pidgin, Creole or Fanakalo was created. 
>The slaves and the servants used to speak to their masters and later the 
>master appropriated it at a certain stage and claim it to be their own and 
>then sort of wave a certain variety of it to superiority above the other 
>varieties and uses Dutch to entrench themselves culturally. The Coloureds 
>can start Africanising the difrent versions of Afrikaans they are speaking, 
>and there nothing wrong with that. What the Afrikaans situation would 
>create in future, is the emergence of increasing people who will see 
>themselves as Africans more and more. It will happen although not very fast, 
>lets say in one generation. Iit would come to pass because if the Coloureds 
>(or even the white Afrikaanersif they so wish) live for another two hundred 
>years here in southern Africa, they will definately become part of Africa. 
> 
>Zenzile: But some Coloureds think that they are white and they follow the 
>culture of the white Afrikaaners. Some will ask, why should we return to our 
>cultural roots if we are fulfilled by our color? 
> 
>Prah: Cultures are not sealed, they mix, they absorb things from others. To 
>move forward in space, although you accept things and you input things into 
>what you have, culture must be build on the basis of what you have. You 
>don't abandon what you have. There was an Afrikaaner General .... in the 
>twentieth century who said "die taal van die onderdrukker in die mond van 
>die onderdrukt is die taal van slawe", meaning "The language of the 
>oppressor in the mouth of the oppressed is a language of slaves", and he was 
>right in reference to their fight against the English (anglo-boer war). 
> 
>Zenzile: There also this notion of being the "first nations" initially 
>propagated by european anthroplogists, who refused to call the same people 
>as Khoisan but still falsely claim today that the San people are the first 
>people in southern Africa. Now these sentiments is being expressed by some 
>Coloureds who have returned to their Khoisan roots here in the western Cape, 
>claiming that they are the first nation in the region and believing the lie 
>of the initial european anthroplogists. How should do we solve these 
>problem, already manifesting itself in the movement for Khoisan 
>consciousness at this early age?. 
> 
>Prah: I call them rear-guards Coloureds. Again separation is foolish because 
>most of the people who would describe themselves to be Coloured are not 
>different from the Khoisan. In the end you'll have wrong people claiming 
>that they are the first nation, its a bit foolish. I think the real 
>transformation will start when more and more of the socalled Coloured people 
>become African language speaking. The more you get that, the more ridiculous 
>those who do not speak any African language will become. Lets work forward 
>despite that there are those who are destructive. The emancipation of 
>people, the freedom of people, the ability of the people to control the 
>destiny of their lives should increase and not just here in the western Cape 
>or in Africa but the whole world. Our freedom cannot be against the freedom 
>of somebody else's freedom. The reason why our freedom is so important is 
>that it is so suppressed. Our freedom will mean a gain for humanity as a 
>whole, but if we adopt any type of struggle, which is against "them" or 
>"us", the progress will stall. But you must again remember that this 
>struggle is not unique to the Coloureds or the Khoisan in southern Africa 
>only. You'll find it all over Africa - in Kenya, Ghana and in Rwanda and 
>Burundi which is part of the reason why we have so much conflict in that 
>part of the world. There are certain stratificational problems based on 
>ethnicity. Today you have ethnic and cultural groupings also becoming a 
>class groupings. Its a dangerous situation and it can explode. You find 
>situations right now in the Ivory Coast, where people are chasing after 
>others because they say they don't belong to another ethnic group. Then you 
>have what you find sometimes in Nigeria, Liberia and what you see in Sierra 
>Leone. So what I'm saying is that in all of this we must always situate our 
>thinking and our sense of belonging within Africa for our victory. 
>Nonetheless we must keep our cultures democratic, ensure democratic 
>expressions, we must not sweep our cultrures under the carpet, we must not 
>pretend that they don't exist, but we must respect them in their diversity 
>our cultures. We must challenge our governments to what is right in this 
>respects and adapt to democratic principles to our own historical and 
>cultural conditions and enforced them steadily to deliver the direction. 
>Remember these exclusiveness "you look different than us, this one is 
>different", is not always correct. 
> 
>Namib-drum 


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