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Lamin Jatta <[log in to unmask]>
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I am beginning to see clearly that this Ginny got carried away by the UDP fanatics
 as a front to peddle lies about our leaders. Now she obviously cannot
 defend herself.
Hence you allow the UDP extremists to use and abuse you
willingly, I insist that you either come with concrete proves to substantiate
all the wrongs you accused NADD leaders of or be honest and brave enough to publicly 
apologize to all Gambians. Then you will regain my respect as a God fearing and
truthful lady. Most Gambians love honesty. Because you started your libelous article 
with the following:
"I hope my thoughts were clear, however comments and questions are 
always welcome if there were not."  
Gambians are waiting.

  Peace!
  Lamin

Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> wrote:    Joe,

you keep doing what you are doing.  We all know who are the mad dogs here.
The nonsense some of these people come up with in the name of opinions,
rights, democracy and what have you is as you say simply nauseating.  I for
one do not give heck who the hell leads the opposition as long as they
adhere to the principles of truth and fair play.

 I wonder where were all the UDP/NRP luminaries when the MOU was drawn up?
What was there position and contribution to the process?  Why did they not
object to things they were not happy about? Why did they wait til the last
minute and withdraw and started giving flimsy and frivolous excuses like
mistrust and what not?  Why if they believed they had the numbers and the
rest were insignificant did they join an alliance/party they did not need?
Why did they allow Halifa be the coordinator when they knew he was 'power
hungry' as some have falsely claimed? Why wait for more than fifteen   months
and started complaining about issues that were suppose to be dealt with at
the on set?

Since these bunch believe the rest of the NADD are irrelevant why don't
they just concentrate in making sure there predestined leader ascend to the
presidency come October and save us the stress.

As for Ginny, i hope she musters the courage and put the record straight on
some of the things she's said about the NADD leadership.  Her Islamic faith
requires her to speak of the truth and nothing but the truth.

Joe, if i were you i let these bunch enjoy their hallucinogens. Maybe at
some point they will jolted to reality. Who knows miracles do happen.


Men, this whole business beginning to boring.

Mboge

On 5/19/06, Joe Sambou  wrote:
>
> Mboge, you see this is one of the nauseating aspects of these people.  Why
> go around the globe to just pitch for the UDP, as if we will not   see
> through
> this scheme.  The very person talking about unity, is the same person
> discrediting the same people he is calling to unite.  This is why I
> challenge their hypocrisy.  They went to Tennessee and started that
> garbage
> about OJ camp vote buying and sold that nonsense to Ginny.  Then they come
> back here talking about the opposition should unite and call themselves
> waging a campaign to attack Waa for saying something about Ousainou.  Are
> these folks well?
>
> As to that nonsense about folks attacking Mandinkas, I'll help Conteh with
> his quest to show the seed that any that criticize the UDP or Darbo is
> anti-Mandinka.  I am on record to say that no Gambian including Ousainou
> was
> born to lead us.  I am also on record to say that there is no group, tribe
> or organization that owns or is ordained to lead Gambians.  Now who the
> cap
>   fits, by all means wear it.  The good thing here is that Conteh has been
> trying to plant this seed for months and only a few tribalists like
> himself
> has joined him in his despicable attempt.  Those Mandinkas that know the
> issues reject his filth but that will never stop Conteh.  He lied just
> recently about my association with Harry Sambou, but when I came here with
> the facts about his lies, did he say a word?  No, he just coiled his tail
> and hid, only to surface with this garbage.  This time around, Gambians,
> all
> of us are going to decide what we want and our future, and none is going
> to
> force-feed us.  So it is going to be futile to play games, because it
> ain't
> gonna work.
>
> Chi Jaama
>
> Joe
>
>
> >From: Modou Mboge 
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>   >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: [>-<] BREAKING NEWS:APRC'S JUNG CONTEH WINS KOMBO EAST BY
> >ELECTIONS-THE OPPOSITION SHOCKED!!!
> >Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 14:17:07 +0100
> >
> >Another doze of putrid piffle coming from a highly delusional
> personality.
> >What a load of tosh.  Hope you can substantiate the trash you throwing
> >around concerning the personalities you named in your this convoluted
> >piece.
> >
> >Mboge
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 5/19/06, Jassey Conteh  wrote:
> >>
> >>Mr. Mballow:
> >>
> >>It is apparent that we are at a stance and mediation
> >>is needed.  I never thought in my life that my district could be a
> >>point of assertion as to the   strength of UDP/NRP and
> >>weakness of NADD.  That being the case, I will do everything in
> >>my power for UDP/NRP and NADD supporters to come together
> >>in my district. All politics is local.
> >>
> >>I am disturbed about the constant name-calling and uncompromising
> >>attitude that some have exhibited.  Though GambiaL represents less
> >>than 2% of Gambians in diaspora, it has created enmity among
> >>opposition members.  If we believe that Jammeh is the worst thing
> >>that has ever happened to the Gambia, we should swallow our pride
> >>and come together.
> >>
> >>If we want to reconcile, it will set a bad precedent to call for UDP/NRP
> >>to
> >>come back to NADD.  I believe in all sincerity that we should summon
> >>a meeting between these two groups.  We should be objective in
>   >>in delegating our respective responsibilities.  Since we were not
> present
> >>when the break-away took place, it is disservice in my view to blame
> >>Amat and Ousainou.  Waa said that it would be over his dead body
> >>before Ousainou is nominated.  Dulo asserted that he was bribed to
> >>vote for OJ.  Though Halifa said he was not interested, he changed his
> >>mind in the midst of confusion.  Waa said that it would be over his
> >>dead body if Ousainou is nominated. This all thing is so confusing
> >>that all the members should be blamed.
> >>
> >>I also questioned why Mr. Amadou Sanneh never receive a dime
> >>from contributors as NADD's former secretary.  How could a secretary
> >>or general secretary be sent contributions when a treasurer's position
> >>was created.  Why did Mr. Amadou Sanneh resign?
>   >>
> >>How could one attack Ousainou as a Mandinka?  How could one claim
> >>that Mandinka's thought they have the wherewithal to the presidency?
> >>If we want to compromise, we have be respectful to every tribe.  Though
> >>I am willing for a dialogue, I will not tolerate any frontal attack on
> any
> >>tribe.
> >>
> >>Naphiyo,
> >>Comrade Jassey-Conteh
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Lang Tunkara < [log in to unmask]>
> >> >Sent: May 18, 2006 10:29 PM
> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >Subject: Re: [>-<] BREAKING NEWS:APRC'S JUNG CONTEH WINS KOMBO EAST BY
> >>ELECTIONS-THE OPPOSITION SHOCKED!!!
> >> >
> >> >Mr. Mballo:
> >> >
> >> >Calm down.  Everything   will be alright.  Do not get distracted from
> the
> >> >wonderful work you are doing for the homeland.  Our actions speak
> louder
> >> >than the words we say.  We know what you are doing.  Keep up.
> >> >
> >> >Tunkara.
> >> >
> >> >>From: saihou Mballow 
> >> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >> >>< [log in to unmask]>
> >> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >>Subject: Re: [>-<] BREAKING NEWS:APRC'S JUNG CONTEH WINS KOMBO EAST
> BY
> >> >>ELECTIONS-THE OPPOSITION SHOCKED!!!
> >> >>Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:16:23 -0700
> >> >>
> >> >>Joe, you should be ashamed of yourself and come real
> >> >>admit that you are a disgrace in the   struggle and you
> >> >>have contributed in destroying NADD by pretending that
> >> >>you are the only Gambian in the diaspora who has done
> >> >>something for NADD. All the people you have insulted
> >> >>here, by accusing them of not contributing to NADD was
> >> >>a lie. It was their choice to contribute either
> >> >>directly to NADD or through STDG or the New York
> >> >>Movement. This, i will tell you today because i am fed
> >> >>up with your drama.
> >> >>
> >> >>There are Gambians who established forums and helping
> >> >>the struggle, sometime you blindly come here and tell
> >> >>them that they have never contributed for NADD. Can
> >> >>you do what they are doing? Can you do all the work
> >> >>alone? Joe cool   down your temper.
> >> >>
> >> >>Joe, for me call me any names because it is nothing to
> >> >>me but you have to stop behaving like Yahya Jammeh in
> >> >>the making towards your fellow country men and women.
> >> >>You think you know all and you can do all.Please....
> >> >>
> >> >>Are you serious in questioning me whether i have ever
> >> >>contributed for NADD? You must be an actor.
> >> >>
> >> >>You are saying "Yahya is able to continue enslaving
> >> >>Gambians because of what"?. You are a clear sample
> >> >>because you want to remote control Gambians from
> >> >>Chicago for your selfish interest, No way.
> >> >>
> >> >>Finally, if you want a collective struggle and a
> >>   >>respectable Alliance it must come from the Gambia at
> >> >>the grass roots level but not Chicago. Yes we can
> >> >>participate in the democratization process,fund, re
> >> >>force, and help facilitate dialog but we cannot
> >> >>dictate them to who should lead them.
> >> >>
> >> >>Planning a DEMOCRATIC COUP D'ETAT against the biggest
> >> >>opposition party UDP is not going to work. Come real
> >> >>on the table like Senegal and Keneya.
> >> >>
> >> >>Saihou
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>--- Joe Sambou  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > [ This e-mail is   posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering
> >> >> > by "Joe Sambou"  ]
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sahou, you must be the biggest joke around then.
> >> >> > You show up here with your
> >> >> > partisan nonsense and know nothing about this
> >> >> > struggle but what you wish to
> >> >> > gain from it.  How can you lie here to suggest that
> >> >> > you are not in this for
> >> >> > your gain?  Did you not even attempt to run on an
> >> >> > APRC ticket before your
> >> >> > new found love with the UDP?  Unlike you, I create
> >> >> > my destiny, thus I call a
> >> >> > spade a spade regardless who the cap fits.  Look, I
> >> >> > am a Gambian   like you
> >> >> > and we all know that "Siborru" mindset that is
> >> >> > festered in our midst, such
> >> >> > as yourself.  Go develop yourself and stop riding on
> >> >> > people's coattails.  As
> >> >> > long as you are looking for what you can get in
> >> >> > this, you shall never
> >> >> > liberate yourself.  After your below nonsense about
> >> >> > a "coup against UDP at
> >> >> > Morehouse", one can clearly see that you do not
> >> >> > think straight.  It is
> >> >> > idiots like you that flood the landscape in today's
> >> >> > Gambia.  Yaya is able to
> >> >> > continue to abuse Gambians precisely because we
> >> >> > enslave ourselves with
> >> >>   > miserly behaviors, and Gambians know what behavior I
> >> >> > am talking about here.
> >> >> > That is why you see religious leaders, adults, men
> >> >> > and women lying their way
> >> >> > for whatever they can get from Jammeh.  Sahou, you
> >> >> > are a travesty and a joke
> >> >> > and it is about time you are told.  Who are you
> >> >> > kidding about contributing
> >> >> > to NADD?  Continue with you miserly behavior if you
> >> >> > must, and let others
> >> >> > conduct their business if you want to be left alone.
> >> >> >  Unlike you I am on
> >> >> > record to take any to task that want to lead us.  I
> >> >> > give a hoot who leads
> >> >> > Gambia among the   opposition, as long as Yaya and the
> >> >> > APRC is out and those
> >> >> > that wish to run our affairs are not criminal.  And
> >> >> > guess what, I do not
> >> >> > need jack from them and they know it.  If I do not
> >> >> > kiss up to any in the
> >> >> > Gambia twenty years ago, why would I start now?  And
> >> >> > why would I spare your
> >> >> > behind at that?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chi Jaama
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Joe
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >From: saihou Mballow < [log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > >Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> >   >Subject: Re: Re: [>-<] BREAKING NEWS:APRC'S JUNG
> >> >> > CONTEH WINS KOMBO EAST BY
> >> >> > >ELECTIONS-THE OPPOSITION SHOCKED!!!
> >> >> > >Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:23:22 -0700 (PDT)
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering
> >> >> > by saihou Mballow
> >> >> > > ]
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Kebba, yes i understand that you and Joe organized
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > >democratic coup d'etat against the UDP in Monehouse
> >> >> > >College but you failed.
> >> >> > >Go and tell the knuckleheads about what ever
> >> >> > nonsense
> >> >> >   >you have to say about politics. Ousainou can teach
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > >about Gambian politics because he has been involve
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > >it at the grass roots level. Ousainou has been
> >> >> > >fighting to bring about genuine democracy and
> >> >> > justice
> >> >> > >in the country since when you were parting in
> >> >> > Atlanta
> >> >> > >with your tribalism sentiments.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >with your shameless commentary "you are in for this
> >> >> > >struggle for your selfish interest." Let me tell
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > >,i give a damn about position and i can say this
> >> >> > loud
> >> >>   > >and clear in every platform. All i am interested is
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > >see a genuine democracy prevail in the country. You
> >> >> > >might not know me but ask the UDP leadership, they
> >> >> > >will tell you whether Saihou will crawl for a
> >> >> > position
> >> >> > >or worship a leader,never.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >  Where,where you when Waa Juwara, Single Nyassi
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > >myself were touring the country in the early days
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > >the Junta, campaigning to defeat them, Please,go
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > >sleep. You cannot even bring 10 votes for a
> >> >> > political
> >>   >> > >party much more to make them to win. All you have
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > >do for a party is to contribute may be $50 and
> >> >> > write
> >> >> > >none sense to drive supporters away.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Kebba, may be the amount i spent on NADD, i doubt
> >> >> > if
> >> >> > >you have spent something close to that. All of us
> >> >> > made
> >> >> > >NADD what it is today. All of us contributed to
> >> >> > >finance NADD officials trip to the US so do not
> >> >> > even
> >> >> > >go there, we financed the bye elections and so
> >> >> > fort.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Now you are telling me   that you and Joe are the key
> >> >> > >players of NADD. There are gambians in the diaspora
> >> >> > >who didn't contribute through STDG and the Movement
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > >New York but contributed something more than what
> >> >> > we
> >> >> > >did.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Tell me you are the key players of destroying NADD.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Good night.
> >> >> > >Saihou
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >--- [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post
> >>   >> > e-Gathering
> >> >> > > > by  ]
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Saihou,
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > We are having this discussion becuase Joe and
> >> >> > myself
> >> >> > > > organised the very meeting in Morehouse college
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > > > brings about NADD. I understand that you are in
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > > > for your own selfish reasons. We have been
> >> >> > > > advocating for the collective in order to get
> >> >> > rid of
> >> >> > > > Jimmeh and bring about the much needed change in
> >> >> > the
>   >> >> > > > Gambia. Saihou, we are not interested in party
> >> >> > > > politics, all we in STGDP are interested in is
> >> >> > > > getting rid of the dictator through a tactical
> >> >> > > > alliance. The whole exercise is just a means to
> >> >> > an
> >> >> > > > end and not an end by itself. You people are so
> >> >> > > > blinded by party politics and personalities that
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > > > all are missing the bigger picture. Ousainou
> >> >> > Darboe
> >> >> > > > fully understand what am talking about, you may
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > > > grasp it. My brother, Ousainou was the one that
> >> >> > walk
> >>   >> > > > out of a coalition that he negotiated and agreed
> >> >> > on,
> >> >> > > > he should be the one to come to the table. For
> >> >> > your
> >> >> > > > information Joe and I were key players and still
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > > > in getting NADD to where it is today. Our
> >> >> > agendas
> >> >> > > > are very different. I u!
> >> >> > > > nderstand your situation, you cannot wait for
> >> >> > > > Ousianou to be president so, you can run back
> >> >> > home
> >> >> > > > to get a job. Brother, my advise to you is that
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > > > only way you can archive this is thru the
> >> >>   > collective
> >> >> > > > cos UDP/NRP cannot do it alone. Think about my
> >> >> > > > brother.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Thanks
> >> >> > > > Kebba Foon
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > > From: saihou Mballow < [log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > > > > Date: 2006/05/17 Wed PM 08:57:56 EDT
> >> >> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> >
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