"Haruna, with all due respect, yes it did ocme out the wrong way,"  Ginny.
 
Did it? How so?
 
"and the only reason Clinton was called the first "black President" was  
becuase he embodied certain stereotypical, I might add, characteristics of black  
people and men in particular, i.e., could play the saxophone, cheated on his  
wife, grew up poor, etc." Ginny.
 
NO Ginny. These are not the reasons I would call Bill Clinton a Black  
President if I were to call him that. Don't you see what your problem is???? You  
have conjured in your mind what constitutes a Black President and you then  
characterize Clinton as such when you have no authority nor privilege for  such. 
If you say it is other people who call Clinton a black president only  because 
of these nonsensical characteristics, then what you ought to do is  introduce 
those people to us and you will find out they are like  Ginny.
 
[I was reading something at a blog at 
_http://whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.com_ (http://whataboutourdaughters.blogspot.com) ,  so it seems, according to 
this blog, that not every black person thinks of  Clinton as the "first black 
President".] Ginny.
 
Well. Does this not tell you anything? and you said "not every  black person 
thinks of clinton as "the first black president". I  suppose you want to 
replace those black people and speak for them  then.
 
[If "blackness" is no longer about descent, where someone comes from, if  
it's based on who can play the saxophone, who is cheating on their spouse, ore  
more to the point, based on some sort of "culture" or because you act a certain 
 way or do certain things, well,] Ginny.
 
This is exactly what I mean Ginny. You have conjured up in your mind what  
blackness is and you are running your mouth on that premise. Why do you feel you 
 have to define blackness for black folk?????
Would you like to introduce to us who qualified blackness as the things  you 
rambled on about????
 
"does that make me black becuse I listen to R&B and Hip Hop?"  Ginny.
 
NO.
 
"Just to name one example." Ginny.

 
You wanna try another example??
 
"I'm not taking anything away from people to define people how they want,  
but deeming someone black
because they cheat on their wife?"  Ginny.
 
Who deemed someone black because they cheat on their wife???
 
"I'm not black, but if I were, I think I'd be offended, heck, I am  offended 
by that and I'm not black!" Ginny.
 
Think! Think! Be pleased with what you are if not black.
 
"Personally, I wonder how much of what you state as your opinions on here  
are really your opinions,
because I think most of the time, you just like to  argue with people, just 
to get them worked up,
and then proceed to cut up  their posts so much into little pieces that you 
make them into
something  altogether different than what was originally said!" Ginny.
 
I am sorry you feel that way.
 
"The same person who would tell me not to be afraid to comment on Gambian  
issues is the same person who will tell me to "sit down and shut up" (because we 
 all know that's what you were thinking), when we're talking about American  
issues!" Ginny.
 
I am glad you ascertain that I do not have an aversion to either Gambian  or 
American issues. When anyone opens their mouth here, they better use their  
common and uncommon senses.
 
[Gosh, I can't win for losin' can I?  How many times was I told to  "stick to 
your own issues", and
hey, we're talking about American politics  aren't we?  And then someone 
comes along and says "oh
you can't talk  about that 'cause you're white!"]  Ginny.
 
I have no idea as to your query Ginny. But you cannot qualify a black  
president or which president is a fan of black people. Simple.
 
"Just goes to show that if you try to make everyone happy, then  you'renever 
going to be happy yourself!" Ginny.
 
I could have told you that Ginny. In fact I think I shared that with you  
during the many years of our company. You're just hot-headed and you wouldn't  
listen.
 
"Ginny"
 
Whatever.
 
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