Sister Soffie,
I must admit my ignorance about this subject. What I gather from the
communications at the list owners forum, the problem began when Yahoo
tagged Maelstrom for possible source of spam, thereby preventing
deliveries to some of its subscribers. To prevent endless error
messages, Maelstrom managers removed all Yahoo and affiliates addresses.
Looks like we are among the few least affected although not totally
immuned. As for hotmail account holders I hope they are not next. i
guess the problem is really SPAM and unattended mailboxes. One way to
avoid all the chaos is first to attend to your mailboxes. A number of
free mailers restrict capacity to no more than 5MB. Frequent cleaning
mailboxes helps reduce bounces that originate from that. Also many ISPs
reduce bandwidth by limiting number of the number of messages they can
carry per day. This results to millions in the queue and listservs keep
trying before dumping them although is not fast enough either.  Hope I
did not confuse you further.

Malanding

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>Malaanding, I see many error reports for hotmail accounts as well.  I hope this does not result in their un-subscriptions.
>
>Kabir, we will step it up.
>
>Soffie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Malanding Jaiteh
>Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 1:34 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: deleting members]
>
>
>Njajaan,
>I think i beat your by a slim few seconds! 12 hrs is definitely too long
>although I must admit many of were turning and toshing in bed then on
>the other side of the globe. On behave of all, our apologies.
>
>Malanding
>
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>>Gambia-L List managers!
>>
>>I am tempted to ask if the absence of Momodou Camara from the list
>>management means that members are to expect less efficient service? My yahoo
>>address was deleted and I requested over twelve hors ago to be re-subscribed
>>and answered to the confirmation message below a minute later and still have
>>not been re-subscribed. Can someone among the list managers re-subscribe
>>Amadu Kabir Njie: [log in to unmask] ? Thanks.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Kabir.
>>Your command:
>>
>>                  SUBSCRIBE GAMBIA-L Amadu Kabir Njie
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>>requires confirmation. To  confirm the execution of  your command, simply
>>point your browser to the following URL:
>>
>>    http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?OK=152B452F&L=GAMBIA-L
>>
>>Alternatively, if  you have no WWW  access, you can reply  to the present
>>message and type  "ok" (without the quotes) as the  text of your message.
>>Just the word "ok" - do not  retype the command. This procedure will work
>>with any mail  program that fully conforms to the  Internet standards for
>>electronic  mail. If  you receive  an error  message, try  sending a  new
>>message  to  [log in to unmask]  (without using  the  "reply"
>>function - this is very important) and  type "ok 152B452F" as the text of
>>your message.
>>
>>Finally, your  command will be  cancelled automatically if  LISTSERV does
>>not receive your confirmation within 48h. After that time, you must start
>>over and resend the command to get a new confirmation code. If you change
>>your mind and decide that you do  NOT want to confirm the command, simply
>>discard the present message and let the request expire on its own.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Malanding Jaiteh" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:18 PM
>>Subject: [Fwd: Re: deleting members]
>>
>>
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>>>Folks,
>>>This is a message from St John's. It is possible that a number of
>>>Gambia-l subscribers are also removed earlier today. If any such person
>>>contact you please ask them to send there request for re-subscription
>>>using a mailer other than yahoo.
>>>
>>>Malanding
>>>
>>>
>>>-------- Original Message --------
>>>Subject:        Re: deleting members
>>>Date:   Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:09:18 -0500
>>>From:   Paul Karagianis <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To:       Owners of lists on MAELSTROM
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>To:     [log in to unmask]
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>>>
>>>Yahoo blocked Maelstrom because they apparently felt we were sending a
>>>suspicious amount of mail to invalid addresses.  I deleted all subscribers
>>>who were blocked because they (their ISP's) were using yahoo mailers:
>>>
>>>YAHOO.*  (about 15 sites... yahoo.co.kr, yahoo.com.au etc), a couple
>>>like rogers.com nl.rogers.com, bt* something or other.  The right way
>>>to fix all this would be for Yahoo to communicate to their community
>>>what had happened.
>>>                                                   -Kary
>>>
>>>
>>>On 16 Dec 2004, at 15:49, Gerry Harris wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Kary - my list has been decimated.  They are not Yahoo people either.
>>>>
>>>>I got a bunch of messages from system that these people have been
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>deleted.  I have not seen any reports that their
>>
>>
>>
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>>>>subscriptions were in trouble at all.
>>>>
>>>>Yet there were a lot of deletions today
>>>>
>>>>Never have I seen this happen before
>>>>
>>>>What is happening?
>>>>
>>>>Gerry Harris
>>>>Reiki group
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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