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Many African Americans are upset with Obama’s actions during the Congressional hearings.  Last
week, people called on the John Day Show (he’s on WVON Black talk radio at night) and complained
about Obama’s action.  John said we need to have a town hall meeting with Obama to see what went
wrong.  He also said, he will be sending Obama a copy of the tape so Obama knows what people are
saying about him.  This morning Obama was supposed to be interviewed on the Cliff Kelly Show, but
his aides said that signals got crossed and he will appear tomorrow morning.

Last night I sent WVON a copy of what Obama said at the congressional hearing (reproduced entirely
below) and an article from freepress.org (linked listed below).  Prior to this, I sent a copy of
the 102 pages congressional report generated by the John Conyers investigations.  There are
discrepancies that Obama need to clarify and the people want to know.

“Senators Chris Dodd, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, and Barak Obama had let it be known that they
would support Boxer. During the discussion in the Senate, Richard Durbin, Debbie Stabenow, Edward
Kennedy, Ron Wyden, Frank Lautenberg, and Tom Harkin joined the others in speaking in support of
Boxer's challenge. And in the House, numerous members spoke, one after another, until the time was
up, and the number voting for the challenge jumped to 33 from the 8 that had been known early in
the day.”

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1074
I would like to know, how was Obama supporting Boxer on the electoral challenge?  What happened to
make Obama's change his mind from earlier that day (Jan 6th) where he was supporting Senator Boxer
with the challenge of the Ohio Electoral vote until the time he actually made his statement during
the congressional hearing?  Who is this Barack Obama we elected to represent the whole of Illinois?

Questions and concerns regarding Obama’s response at the congressional hearing.

The first paragraph is fluff.  Then Obama said is absolutely convinced that Bush won the
Presidential election.  He also said Bush got more votes in Ohio. What Obama didn't say is very
important.  The question becomes, those Obama believe that Bush won or received more votes
legitimately.   Hmm!!!!

The next really important thing Obama said was that "there are no reason, at a time when we have
enormous battles taking place ideologically all across the globe, at a time when we try to make
certain we encourage democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places throughout the world, that
we have the legitimacy of our elections challenged--rightly or wrongly--by people who are not
certain as to whether our processes are fair and just".

So I guess what Obama wants the American public to play dead and let the Republican party stripped
them of their fundamental rights to vote because American Government have these grandiose
ideologies that they intend to force on the rest of the world.  Did Obama forget that the U.S.
condemned the Ukraine election on the very thing that he accused people of not being certain
whether our processes are fair and just?  We all remember the headlines " the exit polls do not
support the results in the Ukraine election.  I guess as long as it is American doing the crewing,
well it is O.K. to be screwed.

After saying all of that, he admits that there is a problem with the election and there was
widespread voter disenfranchisement and we have and obligation to fix it.

This man is good at double-talking.  He is truly a good lawyer and politician...  After all, this
is the American way...

Tomorrow will be interesting….

Cynthia




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http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/g_three_sections_with_teasers/legislative_home.htm

OBJECTION TO COUNTING OF OHIO ELECTORAL VOTES -- (Senate - January 06, 2005)

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r109:1:./temp/~r109X4Bra8:e108841:
The Senator from Illinois.
   Mr. OBAMA. Mr. President, I did not anticipate speaking today, but the importance of this issue
is enough for me to address this body.

   During the election, I had the occasion of meeting a woman who had supported me in my campaign.
She decided to come to shake my hand and take a photograph. She is a wonderful woman. She was not
asking for anything. I was very grateful that she took time to come by. It was an unexceptional
moment except for the fact that she was born in 1894. Her name is Marguerite Lewis, an
African-American woman who had been born in Louisiana, born in the shadow of slavery, born at a
time when lynchings were commonplace, born at a time when African Americans and women could not
vote. Yet, over the course of decades she had participated in broadening our democracy and ensuring
that, in fact, at some point, if not herself, then her children, her grandchildren, and her
great-grandchildren would be in a position in which they could, too, call themselves citizens of
the United States and make certain that this Government works not just on behalf of the mighty and
the powerful but also on behalf of people like her.

   So the fact that she voted and her vote was counted in this election was of supreme importance
to her and it is the memory of talking to her and shaking her hand that causes me to rise on this
occasion.

   I am absolutely convinced that the President of the United States, George Bush, won this
election. I also believe he got more votes in Ohio . As has already been said by some of the
speakers in this body, this is not an issue in which we are challenging the outcome of the
election. It is important for us to separate the issue of the election outcome with the election
process.

   I was not in this body 4 years ago, but what I observed as a voter and as a citizen of Illinois
4 years ago was troubling evidence of the fact that not every vote was being counted. It is
unfortunate that 4 years later we continue to see circumstances in which people who believe they
have the right to vote, who show up at the polls, still continue to confront the sort of problems
that have been documented as taking place not just in Ohio but places all across the country.

   I strongly urge that this Chamber, as well as the House of Representatives, take it upon itself
once and for all to reform this system.

   There is no reason, at a time when we have enormous battles taking place ideologically all
across the globe, at a time when we try to make certain we encourage democracy in Iraq and
Afghanistan and other places throughout the world, that we have the legitimacy of our elections
challenged--rightly or wrongly--by people who are not certain as to whether our processes are fair
and just.

   This is something we can fix. We have experts on both sides of the aisle who know how to fix it.
What we have lacked is the political will.

   I strongly urge that, in a circumstance in which too many voters have stood in long lines for
hours, in which too many voters have cast votes on machines that jam or malfunction or suck the
votes without a trace, in which too many voters try to register to vote only to discover that their
names don't appear on the roles or that partisan political interests and those that serve them have
worked hard to throw up every barrier to recognize them as lawful, in which too many voters will
know that there are different elections for different parts of the country and that these
differences turn shamefully on differences of wealth or of race, in which too many voters have to
contend with State officials, servants of the public, who put partisan or personal political
interests ahead of the public in administering our elections--in such circumstances, we have an
obligation to fix the problem.

   I have to add this is not a problem unique to this election, and it is not a partisan problem.
Keep in mind, I come from Cook County, from Chicago, in which there is a long record of these kinds
of problems taking place and disadvantaging Republicans as well as Democrats. So I ask that all of
us rise up and use this occasion to amend this problem.




visit my blog at: http://cdaniels225.blogspot.com/

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Cynthia M. Daniels
Northwestern University
Biomedical Engineering Department
2145 N. Sheridan Rd.
Technological Institute, E310
Evanston, IL 60208
Ameer Lab: 847-491-7646
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