-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Manneh [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 24 November 2001 21:01
To: Joe Sambou
Subject: RE: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
Joe if the paragraph below is what you are referring to then its Elhaji you need to talk to. It was
a quote from him.
Perhaps I should have wrapped in quotes. Sorry about that.
"I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a thief ". In my opinion,
all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken more than what
Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to see them
attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being attacked. I made
it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his action, but i
cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations. What about the
others ?"
My personal take was thus
"If you know who those folks are, what is stopping you from naming and shaming them.
It is equally your duty to the Gambian people to name those "bigger thieves" surely.
There is no bigger thief than Ebou, the guy is a creep, and he knows it too.
I told him two yrs ago that anytime he comes here with his shit, there will be
people who will be more than willing to shove it where it comes from, which is his poo hole.
Let Ebou give us a freaking break, oK??
Enjoy your Iftar, if you haven't already eaten "
So the top paragraph was Fye's response to Jabou and above was mine to his.
I hope this makes my position crystal clear.
And do not worry, if I ever have the misfortune of knowing any shameless Gambian thief like
this Ebou character, I shall name and shame him/her.
Terribly sorry about the confusion.
There is no love lost between me and that creep or his ilk. Though I do not know
him from Adam, all the same he is one super creep and his arrogance makes my blood boil.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Sambou [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 24 November 2001 12:39
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
Dave, thanks for your position on this issue. However, you are a Gambian
too. If you know of any other thieves that we are giving immunity to the
detrement of Ebou Jallow, why wait for others to call them out. Don't you
have the same responsibility as every other Gambian to call on the thieves
to our coffers? Like I said, Ebou Jallow is just a start, many more shall
follow. So, please refresh our memories on any thieves that you think folks
on this list have given or are giving immunity.
Chi Jaama
Joe Sambou
>From: Dave Manneh <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
>Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:40:09 -0800
>
>Elhaji Fye,
> I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a thief ".
>In my opinion,
>all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken more than
>what
>Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to see them
>attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being attacked. I
>made
>it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his action,
> but i
>cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations. What
>about the
>others ?
> If you know who those folks are, what is stopping you from naming
>and shaming them.
>It is equally your duty to the Gambian people to name those "bigger
>thieves" surely.
>There is no bigger thief than Ebou, the guy is a creep, and he knows it
>too.
>I told him two yrs ago that anytime he comes here with his shit, there will
>be
>people who will be more than willing to shove it where it comes from, which
>is his poo hole.
>
>Let Ebou give us a freaking break, oK??
>Enjoy your Iftar, if you haven't already eaten
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
>Elhajj Mustapha Fye
>Sent: 24 November 2001 09:03
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
>
>Jabou,
>I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a thief ". In my
>opinion,
>all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken more than
>what
>Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to see them
>attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being attacked. I
>made
>it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his action,
> but i
>cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations. What
>about the
>others ?
>Jabou, you know that Ebou did not give me a penny on this amount. I
>repeatedly
>said that i sympathize with Ebou, because of the antagonisms he faces
>within the
>Gambian community. But let people understand that, one can only sympathize
>with a
>friend / relative / whatever / when they face difficulties, but you cannot
>change
>the process of the truth. The truth will always be the truth! I hope my
>fellow
>G-Lers will understand my positon not to misjudge me. Frankly, I did not
>regret
>joining the L, because i met with old friends, met with new friends and
>usually
>get a lot of fun here. So, I highly appreciate this gathering, and also
>respect
>their views on our debates. It is not always that we will see eye to eye on
>issues, but it does make us to be enemies. Let us just disagree with
>respect, not
>to creat enemity between us.
>
>Happy Ramadan
>Elhajj.
>
>Jabou Joh skrev:
>
> > Elhadj,
> >
> > I hope you are being sarcastic, because whether it was taken as Ebou did
>or
> > taken in secret as other did, it all amounts to the same thing, and as
>far as
> > I am concerned, they are all thieves, whether they took it during the
>Jawara
> > Era or now in various forms. A thief is a thief, and no amount of
>smoothing
> > over can ever change that. If one takes what does not belong to them,
>and
> > worse still, if what they took was entrusted to them on behalf of the
>people,
> > or by the people it puts them into a category that no decent person
>wants to
> > belong to.
> >
> > Yes, mentioning the thievery practiced by our government officials past
>and
> > present very much belongs on Gambia-L, and why?
> > Because this is a gathering of Gambians, and if such talk does not
>belong
> > here, then where in heaven's name does it belong then, in the closet? We
>have
> > done too much of that, always trying to hush hush the misdeeds of those
>who
> > should exercise the highest moral character because they are the
>guardians of
> > what little assets we have,
> > and all that this does is to send the message that one can do anything
>and
> > get away with it. No more. If they do it, we will talk about it loud and
> > clear for the whole World to hear.No hard feelings Elhadj, and i am sure
>you
> > will agree with me because i do believe you are a man of ethics, and
>truth
> > can never be the equivalent of falsehood as the holy Qur'an tells us.
> >
> > Sister Jabou Joh
> >
> > In a message dated 11/24/01 6:11:53 AM Central Standard Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Jabou,
> > > I am sorry to say, that the truth you have mentioned in your mail,
>should
> > > not be
> > > mentioned on the Gambia-L. Ebou Jallow is the ONLY THIEF who has ever
> > > stolen the
> > > coffers of our country. All the rest who took our coffers in the past
>37
> > > years
> > > has borrowed what they took. We hope the so called truthful G-Lers
>will ask
> > > them,
> > > when they will pay back our money? Some are running their progressive
> > > businesses,
> > > and others are sitting in their Mansions.
> > >
> > > Elhajj
> > >
> > > Jabou Joh skrev:
> > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/23/2001 7:57:24 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Samba and co,
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean it when I said Ebou is Man. To apologise after all he siad
>and
> > > did
> > > > > against Jammeh and this Government, it is unbelievable. I could
>not
> > > beleive
> > > > > my eyes when I saw the original letter. At first I thought it was
>fake.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ebou Jallow has done so much damage to President Jammeh and this
> > > Government
> > > > > and I do not think he will be forgivened.I think this is all a CIA
> > > plot. I
> > > > > have know Ebou Jallow we had a good relation and we still do, but
>I just
> > > > > hope he is not stupid enough to step his foot in this country. He
>will
> > > be
> > > > > tried and jailed. Even if President Jammeh forgives him, others
>would
> > > not.
> > > > > He has done wrong to others too, not only President Jammeh.
> > > > >
> > > > > He is a man. He knows what people would say about him and he still
>came
> > > out
> > > > > in public apologising. I think Ebou is being paid and manipulated
>by the
> > > > > CIA. I might be wrong but this is my feeling. I do not see
>anything that
> > > > > would save Ebou Jallow from being punished for what he did if he
>comes
> > > > > back.
> > > > >
> > > > > PEACE
> > > > >
> > > > > Tombong
> > > >
> > > > But Tombong,
> > > >
> > > > With all due respect, Ebou Jallow has not done anything that Jammeh
>and co
> > > > have not done, and on a much larger scale infact. Seems to me that
>he is
> > > not
> > > > the only one who needs to be tried and jailed, so this is a case of
>" the
> > > pot
> > > > calling the kettel black". It is a strange thing when criminals try
>to
> > > point
> > > > fingers at each other.
> > > >
> > > > Jabou Joh
> > > >
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