Did you have a chance to read the translations produced by Gam
Suntou,
Did you have a chance to read the translations produced by Gambian Ahmadis? If you do what part of it is misconstrued? The supreme islamic council is using what is called in IT parlance "FUD" (fear, uncertainty and doubt) to counter the announcement made by the Ahmadiyya community. Wouldn't it be prudent if they took the time to read the translated text to ascertain that nothing is awry before advising people against it. How about the supreme islamic council coming up with their own translations then. The Gambia is a secular state and if we intend to improve upon that, we have to tolerate the religious leanings of our countrymen no matter how misguided we think they are.
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From: SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2007 2:43:01 PM
Subject: Re: The Ahmadis/rejoinder/typos rect.
thanks yero.Those are the tip of the ice bag .they have many other
things that their members at the fringes don't know ,but when you get deep
in their affairs then they open up to you and by that time it is
normally too late to get out .i attended three conferences in London one by
the ahamadiyas and two by those working to expose them.
it is indeed true that they help their registered members in every
academic pursuit .they can find convenient scholarships,funding,and all
sorts of support .the registered member later pay back by means of
donations or other kindness to members.
the feeling of responsibility to the movement or organisation trap
many inside who later discover the truth about them.
they operate similar to that of some so-call fundamentalist groups
.they interpret Islam according to their narrow understanding and then
trap a few gullible vulnerable individuals and then brain wash them ,then
use them to do misguided things in the name of Islam.
is am is about real knowledge and harmony .every situation have its
mode of solving according the Quran and sunnah .yet ,people prefer the
ideas of so-call leaders who them self are control by anti-islamic
elements .we need to learn our religion a bit .the ahamadiya are failing
even in England where they are funded by the government to spread across
the under-developed world .new Muslims know about them more we born
Muslims.
may Allah guide us all .amen.
Y Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
How dare?
1. The Ahmadis believe there is a prophet after Nabi Muhammad-PBUH,
namely ‘Ghulam”2. The Ahmadis don’t believe in the
fitnatul-dhazal/the anis Christ3. The Ahmadis don’t believe in the coming of the Mahdi
(Imam of the rightful prophets.)4. They have controversial views about
the rise and coming back of Esa ibn Mariam (Jesus)-PBUH5. They don’t
even pray behind other Muslims other than an Ahmadis.
The name “Ahmadi” and “Ahmadians” are serious misnomers. Islam
is not like other religions where they are named after their founders,
for e.g. Christianity after Christ; Buddhism after Buddha; Judaism
after Judah et cetera. Verily the name of our true religion is Islam, and
those that practice it Muslims. The best grip is the Quran and the
Sunnah. The Quran-words of Allah/God SWT. The Sunnah-way of life of the
prophet-PBUH.
The fear is these Ahmadis might translate the Quran to suite their
personal agenda, in addition to distorting some of the verses. Then, it
becomes truly unacceptable. Since it was accepted that Islamic activities
must be approved by the SIC, their move to publish it without consent
to the SIC violates that agreement.
Of course, there is greater need for tolerance and acceptance of the
tolerable and acceptable. Obviously a verse goes “There is no
compulsion in religion.” /Quran. In Quranic chapter 109, it ended by saying
“To you belong your religion, and ours belong to us.” But if the
Ahmadis’ efforts are to pollute the minds of the people by intentionally
distorting the verses, it is a need for scholars to tighten their belts
and battle their unacceptable deeds.
It remains to be seen their long battle with vocal Oustars Bunjeng
continues many years after his death.
We seek refuge in God from the rejected Satan and his many accomplices.
We ask God for true guidance. We ask God to show us the righteous path
and protect us from every evil omen, trial and difficulty. Whatever is
good for our souls as Allah willeth in this world and the hereafter,
so be it. O Allah, do not take our souls except in a state of pure Islam
and make us die as believers. O Allah, do not return us to disbelief
after guidance and do not test us with a burden greater than we can
bear.
Ya AllahYa SamadYa KarimYa rabanaYa ghafurYa Dhulzalal Ya RahmanYa
RaheemYa MalikThe best names belong to you, O Allah. > Date: Tue, 4 Dec
2007 09:54:54 -0600> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: The
Ahmadis/rejoinder> To: [log in to unmask]> > By YJ> > > How dare?> 1. The
Ahmadis believe there is a prophet after Nabi Muhammad-PBUH, namely
‘Ghulam”2. The Ahmadis don’t believe in the fitnatul-dhazal/the anis
Christ3. The Ahmadis don’t believe in the coming of the Mahdi (Imam
of the rightful prophets.)4. They have controversial views about the
rise and coming back of Esa ibn Mariam (Jesus)-PBUH5. They don’t even
pray behind other Muslims other than an Ahmadis.> The name “Ahmadi”
and “Ahmadians” are serious misnomers. Islam is not like other
religions where they are named after their founders, for e.g. Christianity
after Christ; Buddhism after Buddha; Judaism after Judah et cetera.
Verily the name of our true religion is Islam, and those that practice it
Muslims. The
best grip is the Quran and the Sunnah. The Quran-words of Allah/God
SWT. The Sunnah-way of life of the prophet-PBUH. > The fear is these
Ahmadis might translate the Quran to suite their personal agenda, in
addition to distorting some of the verses. Then, it becomes truly
unacceptable. Since it was accepted that Islamic activities must be approved by
the SIC, their move to publish it without consent to the SIC violates
that agreement. > Of course, there is greater need for tolerance and
acceptance of the tolerable and acceptable. Obviously a verse goes “There
is no compulsion in religion.” /Quran. In Quranic chapter 109, it
ended by saying “To you belong your religion, and ours belong to us.”
But if the Ahmadis’ efforts are to pollute the minds of the people by
intentionally distorting the verses, it is a need for scholars to
tighten their belts and battle their unacceptable deeds. > It remains to be
seen their long battle with vocal Oustars Bunjeng continues many years
after his death. > We seek refuge in God from the rejected Satan and
his many accomplices. We ask God for true guidance. We ask God to show
us the righteous path and protect us from every evil omen, trial and
difficulty. Whatever is good for our souls as Allah willeth in this world
and the hereafter, so be it. O Allah, do not take our souls except in a
state of pure Islam and make die as believers. O Allah, do not return
us to disbelief after guidance and do test us with a burden greater
than we can bear.> Ya AllahYa SamadYa KarimYa rabanaYa ghafurYa Dhulzalal
Ya RahmanYa RaheemYa MalikThe best names belong to you, O Allah. Amen.
> > > > >
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