Hello, I think I need to clarify something.  When I said Dad or father, I
meant the father of the girls' baby.  Where was he?
     I don't think she alone should be blamed because, as they say, it takes
two to tango.
Ginny

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Subject: Re: Fwd: Nigerian court sentences unmarried pregnant girl to caning


> Ginny,
>
> My belief is that a parent's role (the Dad)is to
> discipline the child as best as they can.  I don't
> think that any parent would be able to keep tabs with
> their child on a 24/7 basis.  The bottom line is, if a
> child chooses to be bad, you cannot almost stop
> him/her from being just that.
>
> So my argument is:  At what level should you determine
> that the parent(dad in this instance)should be held
> responsible for the child's actions.  I am sure you
> would agree that at 17, most most of us started
> approaching life independently, or at least think they
> are, although we are still sheltered under Dad's roof.
>
> Regards
> Essa
> --- Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Hello, I have a question about this story.
> > Hopefully, someone can help me
> > answer it.  My question is not so much whether or
> > not the sharia law should
> > be enacted and used.  What I want to know is, where
> > is the father of this
> > girl's baby?  I mean, she couldn't have gotten
> > pregnant all by herself.
> > Would he suffer the same punishment as she is going
> > to have to?
> >      I just wanted to know because there was no
> > mention of the father in
> > this case, and shouldn't he be as guilty as the girl
> > is?
> > Ginny
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA"
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 2:16 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: Nigerian court sentences unmarried
> > pregnant girl to caning
> >
> >
> > Nigerian court sentences unmarried pregnant girl to
> > caning
> > September 15, 2000
> > Web posted at: 11:30 PM EDT (0330 GMT)
> >
> >
> > GUSAU, Nigeria (Reuters) -- A pregnant teenage girl
> > has been sentenced to
> > 180 strokes of the cane by a Muslim sharia court in
> > northern Nigeria,
> > officials said Friday.
> >
> > Human rights activists have reacted angrily to the
> > sentencing of 17-year-old
> > Bariya Magazu after a trial likely to fuel
> > controversy over the introduction
> > of the strict sharia penal code in parts of northern
> > Nigeria.
> >
> > Separately, Roman Catholic bishops of Nigeria issued
> > a statement calling on
> > President Olusegun Obasanjo "to address the sharia
> > issue with the
> > seriousness and sense of urgency that it deserves."
> >
> > The court in Zamfara state, the first of Nigeria's
> > regional governments to
> > proclaim sharia law, tried Magazu on charges of
> > having had pre-marital sex.
> >
> > Multi-ethnic Nigeria has been sharply divided over
> > sharia since late last
> > year when Zamfara embraced it. Hundreds of people
> > died in two bouts of
> > Christian-Muslim bloodletting over plans to
> > introduce it in neighboring
> > Kaduna state earlier this year.
> >
> > Non-Muslims oppose sharia for its tough sanctions,
> > such as stoning for
> > adultery and amputation of hands for theft.
> >
> > Zamfara officials said the court in the state
> > capital Gusau had earlier this
> > week found Magazu, who is several months pregnant
> > and being looked after by
> > her parents, guilty of having sex illegally.
> >
> > "The court sentenced her to 180 strokes of the cane,
> > and she will be
> > publicly flogged 40 days after she puts to bed
> > (gives birth)," an official
> > told Reuters.
> >
> > Rights groups described the sentence as barbaric and
> > a violation of the
> > girl's fundamental human rights.
> >
> > "It's shocking and really very embarrassing. It is
> > baffling why the Zamfara
> > government would go ahead to enforce sharia to the
> > extent of having to give
> > a small girl 180 strokes of the cane," said Samson
> > Bako of the
> > Constitutional Rights Project.
> >
> > Bako said a coalition of rights groups would
> > consider court action against
> > the central government if it failed to stop the
> > spread of sharia in the
> > country.
> >
> > Despite opposition, sharia appears popular in the
> > predominantly Islamic
> > north where some half a dozen states have adopted it
> > or are about to do so.
> >
> > In their statement issued Friday after a five-day
> > meeting in Kaduna, the
> > bishops said their original fear that non-Muslims
> > would suffer under a
> > sharia regime had been justified.
> >
> > "The reality on the ground in states that have
> > adopted sharia shows that
> > non-Muslims are being negatively and unjustly
> > affected," the statement said.
> >
> > In many cases Christian bodies were denied land on
> > which to build places of
> > worship, it said.
> >
> > While reaffirming their faith in a unified Nigeria,
> > the bishops said they
> > believed Nigeria's constitution needed to be
> > reviewed to reassure people of
> > all faiths.
> >
> > "There should no longer be room for special
> > provisions for any religion
> > within our constitution," their statement added.
> >
> >
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