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Hi Ebrima
Am no computer expert but I have checked the originating IP address of the
last email sent by Pa Modou Gassama and the last email sent by Kebba Joke
and they both match exactly. does that mean that both mails was sent from
the computer?
Can anyone with the knowledge please check..

Peace
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ebrima Ceesay" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Ebrima Ceesay - FYI


> Hamjatta: (Writing in a hurry)
>
> Thanks for the e-mail below. You have definitely hit the nail on the head.
>
> I have nothing to apologise to Pa Modou Gassama of Gamtel. In fact, he is
> lucky that my Server is down at the moment, so I am forced to send this
> e-mail from a Cyber Cafe which is expensive. Anyway, whenever my server is
> operational, I'll put the guy in his place as they say here in B'ham.
>
> In actual fact, I have received a minimum of 10 international calls
> yesterday, including those from Gamtel staff, and every one of them
> confirmed that Kebba Jobe is actually Pa Modou Gassama.
>
> Equally, my e-mail account is being bombarded with private e-mails, mainly
> from Gamtel staff, and all confirming that Kebba Jobe is actually Pa Modou
> Gassama. So, from now on, like Hamjatta suggested, I for one will be
> addressing Kebba Jobe aka Pa Modou Gassamma. In fact, if I were to make
> public some of the private e-mails about you (Pa Modou), Gambia-L readers
> will have been shocked for the rest of their lives.
>
> You are the ones that/who benefitted a lot from the Jawara years, in terms
> of professional training abroad, and it is therefore very hypocritical and
> sickening for you guys to come here on the L, and act as a "Jawara
victim",
> when in reality, you were/are the very ones who have sucked the milk from
> the little cow.
>
> Yes, it pains when some of you guys supporting Yahya Jammeh, try to paint
> sincere people like Kebba Dampha, Hamjatta, Jabou, Saul Khan, Ebou, Joe,
> myself and others as being Pro-Jawara, simply because we are consistently
> exposing the wrongs of the Jammeh regime.
>
> You, Pa Modou Gassama, have taught me in school (Form One), and you know
> that I have not benefitted, especially in terms of Government scholarships
> like you have enjoyed, from the former regime. So it pains when you come
> here and try to paint some of us speaking the language of truth, as being
> under the pay role of deposed president Jawara.
>
> You (Pa Modou Gassama) are aware of how hard I have worked over years to
> develop myself. The truth is that some of us are in fact late developers
> intellectually speaking.
>
> You (Pa Modou) taught me in 1979, and it is in year 2001 (22 years later)
> when I have finally got an opportunity to start working on my Ph.D. You
can
> therefore see that some of us have not been lucky like the Pa Modou
Gassamas
> of this world and yet you want to blackmail those who did not know the
past.
>
> Equally, Hamjatta Kanteh is attending one the most pretigious colleges of
> Oxford University, and yes, Jammeh and Jawara are NOT paying for his fees.
I
> also know for a fact, that the great Kebba Dampha did not enjoy Gambia
> government scholarships like the Pa Modou Gassamas of the world.
>
> Kebba Dampha's overseas studies were never paid for by the Jawara
> government. In fact, contrary to what some of you believe, Kebba Dampha
ONLY
> worked very briefly under the previous Government and then left for the
> private sector. You will be surprised to be told that Dampha did not in
fact
> have any problem with Jammeh government. At the time of the coup and
after,
> he was doing fine. He left The Gambia on his own volition. I can also bet
> that the story is also true for Saul Khan, Saul Mbenga and many others on
> the L.
>
> People are only speaking out because we care and love our country/people,
> but some of us are better placed in the West than being in The Gambia.
>
> Hamjatta: Thanks for the suggestion! I'll definitely do/write a
> comprehensive paper on how I have caught this Pa Modou Gassama red handed.
> And on another note, I have to say that I have been following your debate
> with Saiks, and I am indeed enjoying every bit of it. Yusupha Jow, at
times,
> contributes interesting perspectives to your debate as well.
>
> By the way, I have been reviewing/reading new and fascinating
> perspectives/books on Africa's enormous crisis (es), and it is my
intention,
> God willing, to share some of these perspectives/arguments on why Africa
is
> the way it is today. Maybe, this would then enable some of us to
understand
> the mindset of the likes of Yahya Jammeh and why they can stay in power
for
> too long.
>
> For sure, Gambia-L readers will not be disappointed when I come to share
> some of these latest analyses on Africa. I have come across the works of
> some great Africanists - a few of them I have to say - who are really
making
> sense of what is happening in Africa today. They include Patrick Chabal,
> Daloz, Bayart, Jeffrey Herbst, Chazan. Anyway, I am sure whenever I come
to
> share their perspectives/interpretations of why Africa is the way it is
> today, some of you will really find it/them useful.
>
> Subsequently, I'll be recommending some books by these people which are
> worth reading.
>
> Meanwhile, Hamjatta and Saiks, keep the debate going. I for one am
enjoying
> it.
>
> Ebrima Ceesay
>
> PS: If this e-mail has disappointed my well-wishers on Gambia-L, I
apologise
> unreservedly . Maybe, I am a bit emotional right now. My good Sierra
Leonean
> sister, Josephine Hazely of the BBC Focus On Africa Programme, would often
> say: "Ebrima, I am going to interview you but please, please, do not bring
> your emotions into it"... (laugh)
>
>
>
> >From: Hamjatta Kanteh <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Ebrima Ceesay - FYI
> >Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:15:56 EDT
> >
> >Pa Modou Gassama aka Kebba Jobe,
> >
> >Save your breath! Parading your accolades and all whatnots ain't gonna
save
> >your skin here. Quit the cowardice for once and act like a man. Of
course,
> >Kebba Jobe=Pa Modou Gassama! Contrary to what Ebrima believes, the
evidence
> >is not only circumstantial, but simply overwhelming! Watch this space!
> >
> >You know i once warned you about how your cover would eventually be blown
> >by
> >your stupidity. The self-confidence and latitude you were enjoying by
> >virtue
> >of writing incognito got to your head and you began to get personal. The
> >more
> >personal you got, the more you left trails behind that led to you lair.
> >Well,
> >as they say over here, every dog has its day. In the very end, it only
took
> >a
> >fluke for your cover to be blown by Ebrima Ceesay. Ebrima said it all
> >boiled
> >down him following and trusting his instincts. I propose that he might as
> >well call it instinctive journalism and write a serious paper on the
> >subject
> >with you as a case study.
> >
> >My advice to you is to cut the crap and stop whining about not being
Kebba
> >Jobe. Be a man like Tombong Saidy and use your own name to defend what
you
> >believe in. I personally don't hold much for Tombong, but one thing i'll
> >always say about him is that he is a man and not a hypocrite. Even if you
> >insist on not being Kebba Jobe, it won't stop me from addressing you as
Pa
> >Modou Gassama. So you might as well cut the hide and seek games and be a
> >man
> >for once in your life!
> >
> >And you know what, i look forward to debating you on the issues.......
> >hehehe..... oh boy.....oh boy....... my hands are itching for some
actions
> >here. Perhaps we should kick-start the debate by you answering some
simple
> >questions. How you would rate a regime that callously murders your
innocent
> >and defenceless children in broad daylight and indemnifies all those who
> >partook in those heinous murders? Would you still endorse Jammeh were one
> >of
> >the Gassama kids murdered during the April incidents? Would you endorse
> >Jammeh still if Musa Gassama or any of the Gassama family were to be
traded
> >for Dumo Saho or any other political prisoner to be illegally
incarcerated?
> >How would you feel to be sacked from your job willy-nilly by knuckleheads
> >who
> >think with their fists?
> >
> >Gassama, there is no way you can wriggle yourself out of this - ever.
> >Sooner
> >you get that into your head, the better for you! Time is up for Kebba
Jobe!
> >Let's give the floor to Pa Modou Gassama, a beneficiary of PPP largesse
who
> >hypocritically turns around and dare say silly things about that
> >establishment. See how sick some of you are? You enjoyed all those PPP
> >years;
> >hypocritically pretending to be PPP stalwarts and when the political
> >climate
> >changed, you changed colours like the chameleon you are. And we are still
> >debating why Africa and the Gambia is such a mess? With ignominious and
> >traitorous sons like you, does Mother Africa need enemies?
> >
> >Hamjatta Kanteh
> >
>
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