testing >From: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Another Dubious Coup Plot in The Gambia >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:33:15 PST > >Buharry, > >I've read the comments/sentiments expressed in your piece, which is >reproduced further below, and I must say that I found them quite >instructive. Thanks for the posting for it was very useful and informatory. > >I am also not doubting the hard facts contained in "Ebou Colley's" piece at >all, but I, for one, am also uncomfortable with the tribal aspect of his >useful posting. > >Anyway, if Gambians feel that tribalism is a legitimate problem/concern >that >ought be addressed headlong, then I am ready to open my ears and listen. > >Gambia-L, I must, however, say that detecting the literary hand and mind of >a MR X (his real name is withheld by me) in "Ebou Colley's" posting, I had >to do some serious checks - at the weekend - on the posting (not just on >the >IP number, but using other methods as well). > >And, consequently, I came to the conclusion that the person I suspected to >have written the piece must have authored it. > >Having come to that conclusion, I am now taking VERY SERIOUSLY, the >information contained in "Ebou Colley's" piece, except that like Buharry >Gassama, my former classmate, I am also a little bit disturbed by the >tribal >aspect of this "wonderful" posting, to borrow words from Ous Bojang. > >Having said that, I am now publicly challenging you ("Ebou Colley") to use >your REAL name on Gambia L, so that people WILL take what you have got to >say/write about Jammeh and his army, very seriously, because you definitely >were an INSIDER. > >"Ebou Colley", I believe you have a lot to contribute to the Gambian >debate, >but, in my honest view, it would help the debate if you use your genuine >name so that, as I stated earlier, people would take you seriously. > >By the way, I also have some pertinent questions for you, relating to your >fall out with the Jammeh regime, and would be very grateful if you could >give me the real reasons behind your departure from this regime. > >I have also written a chapter on how the Jammeh coup was actually planned, >but there is still a confusion in terms of who actually authored the first >broadcast of the coup, on Radio One FM, owned by George Christenson. > >Did you have a hand in it, or, in other word, did you write the speech? >Also, did you have any thing to do with planning of the coup? Is it true >that you hid the original speech that Jammeh was supposed to use over Radio >Gambia, on the first day of the coup, to announce the take over? > >Furthermore, on the second day of the coup, I was at State House, and >noticed that Jammeh and Co were consulting you a lot, but a few days later, >you were arrested and detained at the Mile two prisons? > >Would you tell Gambia L what, in reality, led to your dismissal and >subsequent detention? Who actually ordered for your arrest? Was it to do >with Sabally, or Jammeh himself? > >Furthermore, I have seen two lists containing ten names of those who >actually planned the coup (not those who executed the coup), and I must say >that in both lists, your name had featured. My question then is: Were you >one of the architects of the coup? > >You are also accused of being the one who wrote Jammeh's first speech on >policy, broadcast on Radio Gambia, on the third day of the coup; is this >true? I interviewed former US ambassador to the Gambia Andrew Winter and >his >Political and Visa Officer at the time, James Knight, on whether or not the >USA had a hand in the coup and they made their position on the take over >very clear to me. > >But from your perspective, could I ask you, to the best of your knowledge, >whether or not the USA had a hand in the Jammeh coup? > >Some months before the coup, in my capacity as a journalist, I and some >international human right lawyers had the privilege to visit the inside of >both Mile 2 and Jeshwang prisons; and to tell you the truth, we were >shocked >by the appalling conditions of these two prisons at the time. > >Could I, therefore, ask you about the conditions of the Mile 2 prison at >the >time you were there? Also, I have done some thorough research on what I'll >call the marriage of circumstances between Captain Edward Singhatey and Mr >Jammeh, and I've come to the conclusion that they'll never fall apart, >because they desperately need each other. Do you buy this? > >I could share my observations on the two if you wish. But, as for you, do >you envisage a fall out between Jammeh and Singhatey? > >"Ebou Colley", I presume you wouldn't have much information on the November >11, 1994 alleged coup plot, since you were still in jail I believe, but >what >do you really know, as a fact, about the attack by those "rebels" on the >Farafenni military barracks in 1996? > >By the way, was Yankuba Touray one of those who planned the Jammeh coup, or >was he invited? Anyway, I know at the time of the Jammeh coup, he was based >in Farafenni. > >"Ebou Colley", the reason why I've asked about Yankuba's role is because I >have got conflicting reports on Yankuba's role in the coup and would >therefore be very grateful if you could tell me what you know on the issue. > >Also, on the first day of the coup, who actually opened the armoury? Did >Captain Mamat Cham have the keys to the armoury at the time of the coup? > >"Ebou Colley", I have so many questions for you, but I am in a hurry, so I >have to go. But do expect more questions from me. > >Finally, I again challenge you to use your real name so as to give >credibility to what you have got to say on the Gambian debate. I believe >your voice is quite significant vis-a-vis the Gambian debate and, as such, >you owe it to Gambians and posterity, to make your contribution to debate >ON >THE RECORD, and not off the record if you know what I mean. > >"Ebou Colley", I must apologise unreservedly in advance if you find my >posting offensive or distasteful. > >Ousman Bojang, I read your comments on the topic of democracy and the >points >you made were valuable. Keep it up! > >Ebrima Ceesay, >Birmingham, UK. > > > > >>From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: Another Dubious Coup Plot in The Gambia >>Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:33:01 +0100 >> >>Hi! >> The issue of underlining the tribalist undertones of Ebou Colley's >>posting has nothing to do with the "keep it safe business". It is neither >>a >>run for cover nor an attempt to use "code words" to run away from >>tribalist >>realities back home. The issues raised by Ebou if true, given that his >>information sounds real "insider", are issues that should concern us all. >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------