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Yus,
Still on soccer, i read in the guardian on Sunday, that a=20
15 year old by the name of Cherno Samba (i think that's his=20
last name) from Milwall in London is in being coveted by=20
Manchester, Liverpool and Leed and at his tender age is=20
valued at =A31.5-2.0 million. Does he have Gambian parentage.=20
Good luck to the lad and i hope he fulfills his potential.=20
I also heard the same story on BBC radio 5 that he was=20
playing for the Liverpool youth team couple of sundays=20
ago. So it must be true. Does anyone know more about Cherno=20
Samba. (coach help).
I am rooting for an all English final in both the champions=20
league and the uefa cup. The queen will declare a public=20
holiday for man. u vs. chelsea and arsenal vs. leeds. (it=20
might be wishful thinking on my part).
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> Thanks for the info. For some reason, I thought that most of the matches
> would be played tomorrow. SS Lazio looks very good, especially after the=
y
> beat Juventus this past weekend. However, watch out for Man U and Barcel=
ona
> (Dutch national squad).
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Basil Jones,
I'll give you more information on Cherno Samba one of these days. Presently,
I am a bit busy writing a paper/speech I am going to give later this
afternoon to a seminar on "How To Eradicate Worldwide Poverty". In fact,
I'll post the paper to the L by Tommorow, God willing.
Meanwhile, I can confirm that Cherno Samba has got Gambian parents. His
father is a former Wallidan Goalkeeper, Ali Samba, a younger brother to the
late Saul Samba, who had played for the Gambia's National Soccer Team.
By the way, the some of the newspapers here have kept on saying that Cherno
Samba was born here, but some Gambians who know Ali Samba well say Cherno
was actually born in the Gambia, but came here when he was very, very
young/little. Anyway, just for the record, I'll do further checks on his
true country of birth.
But the important thing is that Cherno has already played and scored for
that matter, for the England Under 15 National Soccer Team.
Ebrima Ceesay
Birmingham, UK.
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The truth about the 767 EGYPT AIR tragedy
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Source: http://members.tripod.co.uk/islamonrise/news.html
The following article was published in Al Ahram newspaper (Egypt's main
paper):
Still after the tragedy hit the Egypt Air 767 Boeing a 112 kilometers
off the coast of Nantucket, Massachusetts. Many questions come to mind
about the cause of the airplane's sudden "fall" after its explosion at
11,000 feet elevation after 40 minutes of its take-off from Kennedy
International Airport in New York.
A Great Mystery:
This tragedy, the worst in the aviation history of Egypt and the worst
of the century, has been shrouded with a great mystery more than any
other similar tragedies. What made it even more mysterious is the
confusing and strange conclusions reached by the American authorities
about the details of the incident, which puzzled the intellect of many
in the
investigation and police fields.
Many neutral investigators are almost definite that the tragedy happened
as a result of "sabotage". They ask: What has hit the plane (in the
tail)
without leaving any trace or evidence of the cause?
They also ask about the nature of "the sabotage": was it something that
was done from outside the plane while flying or if it was actually
something "implanted" inside the plane. Whatever the cause, there has
to be
someone who caused the incident.
Some investigators used the "know who would benefit from the act to know
who did it" in their research. Meanwhile, others searched closely in a
series of events that came before, during and after the bodies of all
217
victims ended up in the bottom of the ocean or eaten by its sharks and
whales. So those events became givings that lead them to draw a sketch
of
the culprit, or , at least show his fingerprints.
16 coincidences worth contemplating:
Here is a "series" of events or "coincidences" as in the language of
investigators:
1. There were 34 generals of different ranks from the Egyptian Armed
Forces on board the plane. Among them was a general who has a Doctorate
in
atomic sciences, and more than 20 pilots who successfully completed
training in
operating Apache helicopters that were sold recently to Egypt. Also on
board were other generals who successfully completed training in
launching
the famous American Patriot missiles. The training of all those generals
lasted 3 years and has cost Egypt $3 billion, which Egypt paid in full.
2. Israel vehemently denounced the training program of those generals
upon
their arrival in the US 3 years ago, and Israel called the training
program "a threat to Israel's security".
3. Cairo started a big campaign to rid the region of weapons of mass
destruction. The campaign has targeted mainly Israel since it is the
only
country in the region that possesses such dangerous weapons.
4. Israel started a campaign accusing Egypt of seeking to modernize its
armed forces, and of possessing missiles that threaten the security of
Israel, especially so because the army generals who came to train in the
US will be exposed to the secrets of the joint American-Israeli missiles
and jet fighters technology.
5. Egyptian defense minister, Muhammd Hassan Tantawi, announced last
October that war with Israel is not ruled out. He also announced that
Egypt therefore is continuously building its armed forces to be in a
state
of readiness.
6. One day before the tragedy, the American authorities provided hotel
accommodation in a 3-star hotel for the airplane crew, which constitutes
a
violation of the simplest norms of international aviation, where the
crew
is usually accommodated in the airport hotel or in a 5-star hotel.
7. On the same day, a crew of pilots and flight attendants of Israel's
airline (El Al) checked in the same hotel with a general form the
Israeli Intelligence (Mossad) who was in charge of the crew's luggage
and
personal belongings.
8. Just a few hours prior to the incident, one of the Egypt Air flight
crew complained to the hotel security that someone has sneaked into his
room, because he noticed signs of someone's attempt to open his suitcase
by breaking the locks. But the hotel security assured him of no foul
play
as long as nothing was missing.
9. The day of the incident, Edward Mcglauglen, an American Jew, who is a
vice president of an American civil agency was one of the passengers of
Egypt flight form Los Angeles to New York City in route to Cairo. But
when
the plane landed in New York City, Mcglauglen refused to continue his
journey to his final destination (Cairo) for fear of possible "planting
of
a bomb" by "one of the passengers" at its first stop (New York City).
10. The same day of the incident, the American authorities opted to take
the flight crew's luggage from the hotel through the halls to the plane
itself. Meanwhile the Mossad general opted to take the luggage of the
crew
of Al A'al flight to the Israeli plane himself. But the luggage of the
crews of both Egypt Air and Al A'al ended up being taken from the hotel
to
the airport in the same car that took the Mossad general to the Israeli
plane.
11. Prior to the Egypt Air flight departure, the American authorities
have
inspected the plane for 3 hours, which is a very unusually long time in
aviation norms. Also it has been reported that airport security have not
given similar attention to any other plane that day.
12. After 40 minutes of the flight's departure, contact with the plane
was
lost over the Edward American naval base, which is known to have
anti-aircraft missiles, some of which are ready to be launched
automatically by the mere sensing of an object passing over at a certain
elevation.
13. After the incident, 3 eye witnesses testified to the investigators
that they saw the plane on fire as it was falling down. Fox News also
has
confirmed in its own investigation of the incident that the plane had
exploded in mid air before its fall according to what was seen on the
radar screens.
14. The American investigation team reported that the plane fell down
from
33,000 feet to 19,000 feet in 40 seconds, "which, according to aviation
experts, is a speed equal to a free fall due to earth gravity, which
makes
it evident that the plane has fallen down in pieces and not as one body.
Because the body of the plane is designed in a way that makes it
impossible for the body of the plane to descend at a speed in access of
7,000 feet per second". Aviation experts also add that "even if the
engines of the plane stopped working, it would still be possible to land
the plane at the nearest airport".
15. After 10 hours of the incident, a member of the American
investigation
team announced that they have found the "black box" that records the
secrets of the events in the "last moments" just before the plane's
fall.
However, the next day, the American official spokesman denied finding
the
"box" and said that the investigation team is still searching for it!
16. There were 34 generals from the Egyptian army on board "the plane",
which is a violation of Egyptian army rules that "prohibit" more than 3
generals to be on board the same flight, domestic or international, for
security of the generals. This decision was reached in 1978 after "the
downing" in the Western Sahara of the flight that had Ahmad Badawi on
board (in which 12 generals have died). At that time the fingers pointed
to "the Israeli enemy" and the American intelligence.
So all these events make up 16 "coincidences" not just 2 as required by
Agatha Christy, the author of police investigation stories. Therefore,
the
coincidences suggest, one way or another, that the Mossad was after the
incident.
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<b>The truth about the 767 EGYPT AIR tragedy</b>
<br>------------------------------------------<i></i>
<p><i>Source: <A HREF="http://members.tripod.co.uk/islamonrise/news.html">http://members.tripod.co.uk/islamonrise/news.html</A></i>
<p>The following article was published in Al Ahram newspaper (Egypt's main
<br>paper):
<br>
<br>Still after the tragedy hit the Egypt Air 767 Boeing a
112 kilometers
<br>off the coast of Nantucket, Massachusetts. Many questions
come to mind
<br>about the cause of the airplane's sudden "fall" after its
explosion at
<br>11,000 feet elevation after 40 minutes of its take-off from Kennedy
<br>International Airport in New York.
<br>
<br><b> A Great Mystery:</b>
<br>
<br> This tragedy, the worst in the aviation history of Egypt
and the worst
<br>of the century, has been shrouded with a great mystery
more than any
<br>other similar tragedies. What made it even more mysterious
is the
<br>confusing and strange conclusions reached by the American
authorities
<br>about the details of the incident, which puzzled the intellect
of many in the
<br>investigation and police fields.
<br>
<br>Many neutral investigators are almost definite that the tragedy happened
<br>as a result of "sabotage". They ask: What has hit the plane (in
the tail)
<br>without leaving any trace or evidence of the cause?
<p>They also ask about the nature of "the sabotage": was it something that
<br>was done from outside the plane while flying or if it was actually
<br>something "implanted" inside the plane. Whatever the cause, there
has to be
<br>someone who caused the incident.
<p>Some investigators used the "know who would benefit from the act to
know
<br>who did it" in their research. Meanwhile, others searched closely in
a
<br>series of events that came before, during and after the bodies of all
217
<br>victims ended up in the bottom of the ocean or eaten by its sharks
and
<br>whales. So those events became givings that lead them to draw a sketch
of
<br>the culprit, or , at least show his fingerprints.
<p>16 coincidences worth contemplating:
<p>Here is a "series" of events or "coincidences" as in the language of
<br>investigators:
<p>1. There were 34 generals of different ranks from the Egyptian Armed
<br>Forces on board the plane. Among them was a general who has a Doctorate
in
<br>atomic sciences, and more than 20 pilots who successfully completed
training in
<br>operating Apache helicopters that were sold recently to Egypt. Also
on
<br>board were other generals who successfully completed training in launching
<br>the famous American Patriot missiles. The training of all those generals
<br>lasted 3 years and has cost Egypt $3 billion, which Egypt paid in full.
<br>2. Israel vehemently denounced the training program of those generals
upon
<br>their arrival in the US 3 years ago, and Israel called the training
<br>program "a threat to Israel's security".
<p>3. Cairo started a big campaign to rid the region of weapons of mass
<br>destruction. The campaign has targeted mainly Israel since it is the
only
<br>country in the region that possesses such dangerous weapons.
<p>4. Israel started a campaign accusing Egypt of seeking to modernize
its
<br>armed forces, and of possessing missiles that threaten the security
of
<br>Israel, especially so because the army generals who came to train in
the
<br>US will be exposed to the secrets of the joint American-Israeli missiles
<br>and jet fighters technology.
<p>5. Egyptian defense minister, Muhammd Hassan Tantawi, announced last
<br>October that war with Israel is not ruled out. He also announced that
<br>Egypt therefore is continuously building its armed forces to be in
a state
<br>of readiness.
<p>6. One day before the tragedy, the American authorities provided hotel
<br>accommodation in a 3-star hotel for the airplane crew, which constitutes
a
<br>violation of the simplest norms of international aviation, where the
crew
<br>is usually accommodated in the airport hotel or in a 5-star hotel.
<p>7. On the same day, a crew of pilots and flight attendants of Israel's
<br>airline (El Al) checked in the same hotel with a general form the
<br>Israeli Intelligence (Mossad) who was in charge of the crew's luggage
and
<br>personal belongings.
<p>8. Just a few hours prior to the incident, one of the Egypt Air flight
<br>crew complained to the hotel security that someone has sneaked into
his
<br>room, because he noticed signs of someone's attempt to open his suitcase
<br>by breaking the locks. But the hotel security assured him of no foul
play
<br>as long as nothing was missing.
<p>9. The day of the incident, Edward Mcglauglen, an American Jew, who
is a
<br>vice president of an American civil agency was one of the passengers
of
<br>Egypt flight form Los Angeles to New York City in route to Cairo. But
when
<br>the plane landed in New York City, Mcglauglen refused to continue his
<br>journey to his final destination (Cairo) for fear of possible "planting
of
<br>a bomb" by "one of the passengers" at its first stop (New York City).
<p>10. The same day of the incident, the American authorities opted to
take
<br>the flight crew's luggage from the hotel through the halls to the plane
<br>itself. Meanwhile the Mossad general opted to take the luggage of the
crew
<br>of Al A'al flight to the Israeli plane himself. But the luggage of
the
<br>crews of both Egypt Air and Al A'al ended up being taken from the hotel
to
<br>the airport in the same car that took the Mossad general to the Israeli
<br>plane.
<p>11. Prior to the Egypt Air flight departure, the American authorities
have
<br>inspected the plane for 3 hours, which is a very unusually long time
in
<br>aviation norms. Also it has been reported that airport security have
not
<br>given similar attention to any other plane that day.
<p>12. After 40 minutes of the flight's departure, contact with the plane
was
<br>lost over the Edward American naval base, which is known to have
<br>anti-aircraft missiles, some of which are ready to be launched
<br>automatically by the mere sensing of an object passing over at a certain
<br>elevation.
<p>13. After the incident, 3 eye witnesses testified to the investigators
<br>that they saw the plane on fire as it was falling down. Fox News also
has
<br>confirmed in its own investigation of the incident that the plane
had
<br>exploded in mid air before its fall according to what was seen on the
<br>radar screens.
<p>14. The American investigation team reported that the plane fell down
from
<br>33,000 feet to 19,000 feet in 40 seconds, "which, according to aviation
<br>experts, is a speed equal to a free fall due to earth gravity, which
makes
<br>it evident that the plane has fallen down in pieces and not as one
body.
<br>Because the body of the plane is designed in a way that makes it
<br>impossible for the body of the plane to descend at a speed in access
of
<br>7,000 feet per second". Aviation experts also add that "even if the
<br>engines of the plane stopped working, it would still be possible to
land
<br>the plane at the nearest airport".
<p>15. After 10 hours of the incident, a member of the American investigation
<br>team announced that they have found the "black box" that records the
<br>secrets of the events in the "last moments" just before the plane's
fall.
<br>However, the next day, the American official spokesman denied finding
the
<br>"box" and said that the investigation team is still searching for it!
<p>16. There were 34 generals from the Egyptian army on board "the plane",
<br>which is a violation of Egyptian army rules that "prohibit" more than
3
<br>generals to be on board the same flight, domestic or international,
for
<br>security of the generals. This decision was reached in 1978 after "the
<br>downing" in the Western Sahara of the flight that had Ahmad Badawi
on
<br>board (in which 12 generals have died). At that time the fingers pointed
<br>to "the Israeli enemy" and the American intelligence.
<br>
<br>So all these events make up 16 "coincidences" not just 2 as required
by
<br>Agatha Christy, the author of police investigation stories. Therefore,
the
<br>coincidences suggest, one way or another, that the Mossad was after
the
<br>incident.</html>
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Thanks for the info, Prince. This might prove to be useful if we continue to
allow foreign posts on the lists. Actually, I might try using the
"translator" at Alta Vista.com too. Copy and paste the text of the unknown
language into the translation engine, then click on the translate button and,
voila, one has a somewhat distorted translation.
Anyway, I might have unconsciously sounded like a xenophobe by using phrases
like "relatively obscure languages." In fact, I think Fatou's actions are
part of Senegal's master plan to annex our dear country.(laugh) On a more
serious note, I overreacted to her posts in French, but this reaction arose
out of a concern that what is good for the goose is also good for the gander.
Again, I hope we don't get flooded by a wave of posts in other languages.
But in regard to the French posts, the consensus seems to be that, in our
eforts to promote diversity and tolerance, no harm is being done. If this is
the overwhelmingly concensus, then I rest my case.
Yus
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THIS PAPER WAS PRESENTED BY BROTHER BUHARRY AT THE GAMBIAN ORGANISATION
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The situation of Gambians in Sweden has since the arrival of
the first Gambians in the country not been an enviable one. This is due to
a variety of factors. Factors such as tribalism, sectionalism, disunity,
materialism, laze, greed, illiteracy etc. can be cited to have been and
continue to be strong impediments to Gambians' advancement within the
Swedish set-up. The attendant implication has been the stagnation of
Gambians within the society compared to other immigrant groups. To address
these issues and remedy the plight of Gambians, the Organization of
Gambians in Sweden (OGIS) was formed. The organization however fell victim
to the above vices plus mismanagement, political infighting, embezzlement
etc. from its very inception. This has rendered it incapable of achieving
the goals it was set up to achieve.
Successive administrations have tried to rid the organization
of the vices that have kept it from realising its aims as envisioned by its
founders. The results of these attempts have however not been impressive
leading to the current attempt to find ways of building a modern, effective
and independent organization to address the concerns of the Gambian
community. Before jumping to the issue of trying to build such an
organization, an analysis of some of the problems that have plagued the
OGIS since its inception needs to be carried out.
One of the major problems that the organization has had deals
with the lack of proper financial and accounting mechanisms to handle the
monetary and other assets of the organization. There is no standard
accounting system for the organization and every administration comes with
its own accounting system making it difficult for successive
administrations to grasp the organization's financial condition. This is
coupled with the poor or non-existent system of receipt collection and
organization. This has resulted in the loss of thousands and some even
estimate hundreds of thousands of Kronor.
Another problem that has plagued the OGIS is impulsiveness and
lack of planning. Activities with heavy financial implications are
undertaken without proper research and planning resulting in heavy losses
for the organization. These activities have ranged from poorly planned
cultural events to ineffective seminars to disastrous children's activities
with the attendant implications of not only monetary loss but the erosion
of the organization's credibility in the eyes of those whose interests it
is supposed to serve.
The third problem that has plagued the OGIS is the nonchalant
attitude of its members towards the provisions of its Constitution, the
organization's guiding document. The Constitution defines the procedures to
be adhered to when dealing with various issues related to the organization
but these are nearly always ignored. This has resulted in many problems for
the organization. These problems have included arguments, divisions, legal
wrangling etc. resulting in a waste of the organization's time and
resources.
The fourth problem that the OGIS has is its lack of credibility
in the eyes of the Gambian community. This is a major problem as it has
resulted in a steep decline in membership to the organization. One of the
reasons for the organization's lack of trustworthiness is the lack of
effective management especially in the financial realm. The poor management
of the financial aspects of the organization has resulted in accusation
upon accusation of financial misconduct thus undermining the OGIS' stature
in the Gambian community.
Another of the OGIS' problems is the lack of proper meeting
procedures. This on the surface does not seem to be a major problem but a
closer investigation will reveal that it is indeed a very serious problem.
Poor handling of meetings resulting in disruptions, personal attacks etc.
makes it very difficult for the OGIS to address the real issues crucial to
its effective functioning as an organization.
How can the OGIS be transformed into a modern, effective and
independent organization that will be able to identify and effectively deal
with the burning problems of the Gambian community? The first step should
be to make a comprehensive identification and analysis of the
organization's problems. Some of the issues identified above are important
elements of the overall hindrances to the effectiveness of OGIS as an
entity but are by no means the only hindrances. Systematically identifying
and analysing the impediments to the organization's success is a very
important step and has to be carried out with meticulousness. After an
analysis has been done, ways of incorporating methods to counter them in
the future have to be woven into the organizational fabric of the OGIS.
This in short, amounts to change management, which requires that an
assessment of the required change is made and the mechanisms required to
manage it are created.
The second step should be to revamp the organization's
accounting mechanism. A standard accounting system should be adopted and
all Treasurers should before being elected certify that they understand and
are able to work with the system. Efforts should be made to acquire a
computerised accounting system to ease the work. As the aim is to create a
modern organization, the previous backward accounting system of making
entries on pieces of paper and plastic bags, which cannot be found when
needed, should be abandoned. A requirement that all expenses are requested
using a request form and that receipts must be provided as a rule for all
expenditures should be implemented. This will not only improve the
organization's accounting system but it will also help restore its
credibility in the Gambian community.
A Financial Committee should be formed. The role of this
committee will be to further strengthen the financial regulations and
methods of the organization by acting as a buffer between the various
committees and the Treasurer. All expenditure requests will be handled by
the committee and approved before being forwarded to the Treasurer for
dispensation. The committee will look at cheaper alternatives and make
suggestions regarding the request before authorising the Treasurer to
provide the funds. The committee will be provided with copies of all
receipts so that it can keep a separate accounting profile that can be
helpful to the Auditor when the Treasurer is being audited.
To avoid the impulsive and oftentimes disastrous spending of
the organization's funds, the organization's overall activities should be
determined and budgeted for on a yearly basis. This will ensure that all
activities are strategically planned and looked into. Strategically
planning the activities of the organization will ensure that their goals
are determined, current and future situations are analysed and that a
strategic plan is produced. It will also give the Financial Committee time
to look at alternative prices and come up with suggestions. This way,
activities that are poorly planned will be avoided.
A Legal Adviser conversant with the Constitution should be
elected. It will be the Legal Adviser's responsibility to ensure that all
activities carried out under the aegis of the organization are in line with
the provisions of the Constitution. The Legal Adviser will also ensure that
the inner workings of the Executive Committee conform to the rules
established by the Constitution.
The fifth step should be to create a Public Relations (PR)
organ whose responsibility will be to recover the credibility of the
organization. The PR organ can be incorporated into the existing committees
or created as a separate entity. The PR organ should look at ways of
reviving the defunct newsletter, look into the possibility of creating a
homepage for the organization where all general, financial and other
information will be readily available to all members and the general
public. The PR organ should also work together with the other committees to
create activities to promote the organization and enhance its stature in
the Gambian community.
The organization should also develop meeting procedures. These
procedures should be in the form of a booklet that will be made available
to all members so that they can behave properly during meetings to ensure
the effective use of time. The procedures should determine the role of the
chair and recorders, the floor etc. and identify group problem solving
techniques to help reach effective decisions.
To create an independent organization, the OGIS should not
allow itself to be manipulated by organizations and individuals whose
interests are antithetical to those of its own. The Executive Committee
should ensure that the interests of the OGIS are paramount and that any
attempt to thwart the aspirations of the organization and its members
should be vehemently fought.
The OGIS as has been seen has a myriad of problems that have
hindered it from effectively tackling the issues it was created to tackle.
In order for it to function as intended, these problems have to be
identified and remedied and proper procedures and mechanisms put into
place. Instituting new modus operandi based on the need to create a modern,
effective and independent organization will take a lot of sacrifice and
hard work but with dedication to the organization's ideals and guided by
transparency and probity, the desired results can be achieved.
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This Samba kid seems to be a prodigy. I wish him all the best and hope that
his future success will open the way for many other young aspiring
"footballers" in The Gambia. Things look really promising for this kid. He
has been featured on a few websites and scouts already have given rave
reviews about his play, while the big guns such as Man U and Liverpool are
already hot on his trail.
However, we should not expect him to play for dear motherland. He has been
quoted as saying that his dream is to represent England in the World Cup. It
might be a bit premature to forecast his future at such a tender age. But
assuming that success is imminent, I wonder if he can use his position on the
world soccer stage to be an ambassador for Gambian football?
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Culled from Observer newspaper
OUSAINOU DARBOE IS STILL UDP LEADER
Following the news last week of the nomination of Sam Sillah as the national
president of the United Democratic Party (UDP) by the party's congress,
speculation has been rife in town that the position of the Secretary-general
Ousainou Darboe as the party leader is at stake. The UDP's national
executive issued a press release over the weekend and clarified that Lawyer
Ousainou Darboe is Secretary General of the United Democratic Party and
Party Leader and by the grace of Allah will be the party's presidential
candidate in the Presidential Elections in 2001. The release indicated that
the new national president, Sam Sillah, would bring to the party, age,
experience and his international standing.
Meanwhile, Mr Sillah last Friday told The Point newspaper in an interview,
expressed optimism that the UDP would win all the seats in forthcoming
local government and municipal elections. He said that plans are underway to
have a dialogue with the IEC so as to make the forthcoming elections truly
free and fair.
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Any parallel with the motherland?
Best regards,
Madiba.
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POST EXPRESS
Category: Editorial
Date of Article: 04/05/2000
Topic: The Utilities and the Quality of Life
Author: Obaro Ikime
Full Text of Article:
IT was a Sunday morning. I was on my way to church at about 8.000 am. In
front of me was a beautiful Peugeot 505 car, its boot laden with kegs of
water. Until we dug a well that was the portion of my family for years.
Imagine the man-hours spent by that man, the husband and father, fetching
water every week. Imagine the constant anger and frustration. Imagine the
otherwise avoidable tensions and quarrels that waterlessness in the home
could cause. A Sunday morning. Wife and children wanting to bathe and get
ready for church. Breakfast being prepared. No water. What a life!
Some may react by saying the case I am dwelling on has a car. What about the
millions who have to treck kilometres to fetch water? Yes, indeed. That
merely underscores the point I am making. Three children go out with three
basins, the size they can carry. They come back, after may be one or two
hours. It is a family of six or even eight. Can they all really afford to
have a bath off those three basins of water? Not really. So they engage in
various stages of wet cleaning not to say dry cleaning! So clothes that
should be washed are not washed. So toilets are not flushed as they should.
So, so, so!!! The state of our public utilities nationwide is deplorable
such that the quality of life is high only for the bulk that have both
boreholes and generators. So the rest of our people can suffer and die?
Doesn't anybody care? Is there no way we can achieve what the smaller
African nations around us have achieved? The giant of Africa. Will this
always be in words only? Will confederation solve the problem of our
utilities? Is it aliens who steal chemicals meant for water treatment in the
states? Does nobody care?
Last week, I wanted to have a haircut I went to barbers. No light, so they
sat down idly for most of the day. These are young people who have learnt a
trade so they can look after themselves. NEPA undermines their means of
livelihood, and there is no way they can seek redress. Their takings for the
week would have been drastically reduced. The quality of their lives would
nose-dive. The small pepper grinders in the markets or in shades by their
houses eke out a living by this trade. NEPA takes off power for days on end
and deprives them of their means of livelihood. And they are utterly
helpless. They and their families suffer. So what? This is Nigeria. But this
is the 21st century. Have we no right to expect progress towards a better
life? I am again reminded of that joke that a Professor of Technology
included in his Inaugural lecture: in many Nigerian dances, we take a few
steps forward and many backwards! He wondered whether that explains our lack
of technological progress. Now I wonder whether that is what informs
governance in our nation - few steps forward and many backward. What is the
matter with Nigeria.
What about NITEL? You will wonder why NITEL cannot yet give you a phone for
which you are willing to pay their asking price. So your life is
disoriented, your personal and official commitments more difficult to keep.
Nobody cares. Sorry, there is nothing we can do yet come back next week. And
so it goes on, week after week.
There is a magic word in the air. Privatization. That will solve our
problems and improve our utilities. So we privatized the toll gates. I
reckon the reason was that the contractors who took over the toll gates
would pay lump sums to government which could be applied to the maintenance
of the roads on which we pay tolls. But look at the state of those roads
today. Take the Lagos-Benin Road. Four toll gates between Lagos and Benin.
Yet as we write sections of that road constitute death traps. A new rainy
season has begun. Those sections of the road will become worse and highly
impassable. The unwary driver could easily be ensnared. Nigerian lives could
be lost in accidents caused by the state of our roads. Who cares? What is
life after all. It is but a vapour! A vapour must evaporate!! So, why
bother? Yes, indeed, Nigeria? Happy New Millennium!!!
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I don't know about the specifics of Nigeria's power issue, but back home it
seems as if an over reliance on generators seems to be part of the cause.
Those generators always seemed to run out of fuel, or, even worse, one of
them would break down. Consequently, GUC would have to order the
replacement parts for the generator from some foreign country, and the
citizens of Gambia would be left without power for weeks. Then there was
also the issue of blackouts during electric storms. The lightening would
flash and this would be accompanied by a flicker of lights, then the
blackout. What ever happened to alternate sources of energy? We have been
blessed with the river Gambia which could be used a a source of
hydro-electric power for a number of countries in our sub-region. The OMVG
project seemed to be a good start. But, I don't think that project ever got
past the planning stage.
Does anyone remember the six month(or what seemed like six months) blackout
in 1978? If memory serves me right, it happened right before the 1978 WC
final between Argentina and Holland.
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THE LONDON GUARDIAN 5 APRIL 2000
Mandela accuses 'policeman' Britain
Anthony Sampson
Wednesday April 5, 2000
Nelson Mandela, on his first visit to Britain since he retired as president
of South Africa last year, yesterday accused the government of encouraging
international chaos, together with America, by ignoring other nations and
playing "policeman of the world".
In an interview with the Guardian, Mr Mandela said he resented the behaviou=
r
of both Britain and America in riding roughshod over the United Nations and
launching military actions against Iraq and Kosovo.
"Tony Blair is a young man I like very much," Mr Mandela said. "But I am
resentful about the type of thing that America and Britain are doing. They
want now to be the policemen of the world and I'm sorry that Britain has
joined the US in this regard.
"It's a totally wrong attitude. They must persuade those countries like
China or Russia who threaten to veto their decisions at the UN. They must
sit down and talk to them. They can't just ignore them and start their own
actions."
Such disregard for international conventions was more dangerous to world
peace than anything that was currently happening in Africa, Mr Mandela said=
=2E
"Africa hasn't got the capacity to create such destruction of innocent
civilians as the western powers have. We have no bombs in the proper sense
of the word, except one or two countries, and we have no lethal weapons suc=
h
as the west has.
"What they are doing is far more serious than what is happening in Africa -
especially the US and Britain. It is proper for me to say that."
Mr Mandela's attack follows similar charges this week from fellow African
leaders angered by British attitudes. On Monday, President Robert Mugabe of
Zimbabwe accused the government of treating his country as though it were
still a British colony, while the Libyan leader, Muammar Gadafy, claimed
Europeans had long regarded Africans "like gorillas".
Mr Mandela is on a private visit to Britain and Ireland to see friends and
to raise funds on behalf of his charity, the Mandela Foundation. He will be
speaking at the London School of Economics tomorrow.
He pointed to Britain and America's decision to bomb both Iraq and Kosovo
without seeking permission from the UN Security Council. "The message
they're sending is that any country which fears a veto [from the UN] can
take unilateral action. That means they're introducing chaos into
international affairs: that any country can take a decision which it wants.=
"
Mr Mandela even suggested a racist motive behind America's neglect of the
UN.
"The US did not do this when the secretary-general of the UN was white. The=
y
are doing it now, ignoring the UN under Kofi Annan. And there are many
people who are whispering that it is because the secretary-general is black=
=2E
That perception is disturbing."
Mr Mandela was reluctant to criticise Mr Mugabe, who he suggested had been
unfairly represented in the media.
"The South African press unfortunately are so hostile to Mugabe that they
are prepared to say things which we know are not true about him. Simply
because he lost the referendum, they think he is going to lose the
election," he said.
"The fact that he has lost the referendum may be a blessing in disguise for
him. Because Mugabe is a strategic thinker, he's a very capable man. If I
have to express an opinion, he is likely to retain power."
He denied that something had gone wrong with the idea of African democracy.
"Clearly there are problems in Africa, but African leaders are rising to
expectations. You are having democracy throughout the continent, with a few
exceptions."
Guardian Unlimited =A9 Guardian Newspapers Limited 2000
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THE LONDON GUARDIAN 6 APRIL 2000
Boxing clever with Bruno and Burundi
South Africa's former president takes time out from fundraising to talk of
his role as a mediator, and Africa's growing independence
Anthony Sampson
Wednesday April 5, 2000
Nelson Mandela seemed leaner and fitter at 81 than he was during his time a=
s
president of South Africa, as he talked to the Guardian yesterday in
Kensington, where he is staying with a wealthy supporter.
Relaxing in his customary flowery Indonesian open shirt, he insists that he
is enjoying his retirement and the opportunities to speak his mind. But he
shows little sign of seeking to interfere with his successor, Thabo Mbeki,
as some friends had expected.
Mr Mandela is in London on a private visit - his first since he retired as
president last June - seeing old friends and making a speech about Africa a=
t
the London School of Economics tomorrow morning. He will then weekend in th=
e
country before flying to Dublin to be awarded an honorary doctorate at
Trinity College.
While in London, he is raising funds for his recently launched Mandela
Foundation by approaching rich businessmen, friends and British boxers,
including Frank Bruno. "American boxers have been very generous," he
explained, "now it is the turn of the British."
As always, he enjoys harking back to his life before he went to jail in
1962. "Tony [Sampson] and I first met in a shebeen," he told one of his
colleagues. But he seemed especially pleased that Frank Bruno was waiting t=
o
see him.
He is still much concerned with trying to bring peace to Burundi, where the
government of Tutsis, who make up only 14% of the population, dominates the
Hutu majority. In 1994, as many as 800,000 ethnic Tutsis died at the hands
of the Hutus.
Since retiring as president, he has been mediating in Burundi's six-year
civil war. Recently, he has become much more outspoken in his criticism of
the president of Burundi, Pierre Buyoya. "We need to be a little bit tough
with them," he said yesterday. "It's unacceptable to me, having been in
prison for 27 years, to be dealing with someone who has detained without
trial thousands of people, some of them for three years."
He has become impatient with the negotiating process and with the number of
delegates involved. "The problem there is that you've got small parties,
some of them just a man and a wife, with no members. The negotiations are a
means of earning a livelihood, and they're not in a hurry for a solution,
because it means that all that comes to an end."
He has been in frequent touch with western leaders, including France's
Jacques Chirac, Tony Blair and the Foreign Office minister Peter Hain over
Burundi. He has special praise for President Bill Clinton, who "made a
terrific impact".
"I'm trying to teach Europe how to help matters, how to speak with one
voice, so that we would not undermine one another as the west is doing in
the Middle East. So far as Burundi is concerned, they're doing very well."
He remains hopeful of a settlement. "Buyoya is a very shrewd chap. These
things are sensitive. He does not want a change in the status quo. But I
have now moved them, and a breakthrough is in the offing."
But Mr Mandela is much less hopeful about the Democratic Republic of the
Congo, where he was closely involved as president in seeking peace. "The
Congo was unfortunate. Because when Angola, Namibia and Zimbabwe decided to
send in troops to help [the Congolese president, Laurent] Kabila, I made it
clear that neither Kabila and his friends nor the rebels and their
supporters - Uganda and Rwanda - would win.
"All that would happen was that they would destroy the infrastructure,
prevent development, slaughter innocent civilians. They are going to reduce
that country to ashes. And after that they will sit down and talk. I said:
'Why can't you sit down and talk now?' and the best thing to do was that th=
e
five foreign armies should withdraw."
"They are still there. Kabila's friends say: 'Let Uganda and Rwanda pull ou=
t
first, because we only went there at the invitation of [the] head of state.=
'
I say: 'It's not a question of who invited you, it's a question of getting
all the foreign armies out. The best thing is that all of you should pull
out at the same time.' But they did not.
"There is now a decision to send about 5,000 UN troops and South Africa, if
she is asked, will contribute a force. But the situation inside the Congo i=
s
such that we can't send our army there unless they respect the existing
agreement, which they don't. So they would go there to fight, and we're not
prepared for that. The UN is not going to send a force as peacekeepers
unless there is peace. But the government and rebels together with their
allies are now resuming the fighting. It is a problem."
Mr Mandela still sees western powers as complicating Africa's problems by
seeking to interfere in their interests. "Many countries are receiving
financial assistance from the old mother countries and from the US, and
therefore they are not confident enough to challenge them.
"That is a real problem because although some heads of state are outspoken
in criticising the vestiges of colonialism, the majority do not want to
offend their benefactors and tend to keep quiet.
"Nevertheless, Africa has produced very competent and experienced leaders
who are rising to the challenge who feel that the time has come to handle
their own affairs without interference, and they are succeeding in that.
That is the overall picture, whatever criticisms you may have."
Mr Mandela hopes that, with a Burundi agreement, he will be able to enjoy
his retirement fully. "Three other countries have asked me to sort out thei=
r
problems, but I"m not going to do so," he says.
=2E Anthony Sampson is the author of Mandela: The Authorised Biography, to =
be
published in paperback by HarperCollins next month.
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Alieu:
Congrats! on the completion of your thesis. Best wishes!
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HARARE, Zimbabwe (PANA) - A police man was shot dead Tuesday in a =
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white-owned farms across the country to press for land reform.
Home affairs minister Dumiso Dabengwa said the police man had been shot =
in unclear circumstances when he went to arrest a group of war veterans =
who had earlier assaulted a white farmer.
The death is the first such case since the veterans occupied hundreds of =
white-owned farms with tacit government backing to press their demands =
for land reform.
Much of Zimbabwe's best farmland is controlled by about 4,500 white =
farmers, with the majority blacks consigned overcrowded in areas with =
infertile soils.
The government, which has picked up land reform as its main electoral =
plank in parliamentary polls scheduled for May, has threatened to seize =
white farms without adequate compensation unless the former colonial =
power, Britain, released promised funds for the programme.
Britain denies the financial obligation, and has criticised President =
Robert Mugabe of promoting lawlessness for defying a court order to =
remove the veterans from the white-owned farms they have occupied.
The government presented a draft bill in parliament Wednesday to amend =
the constitution to allow for the acquisition of the white farms without =
fully paying for them.
"Never, never, never again shall our land be alienated from its people =
or our people from the land," justice minister Emmerson Mnangagwa, said.
The bill compels Britain to provide funding for land reform, failure of =
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State, Opposition Accuse Each Other Of Fomenting Violence
State, Opposition Accuse Each Other Of Fomenting Violence
April 5, 2000=20
HARARE, Zimbabwe (PANA) - The government and the opposition in Zimbabwe =
accused each other Wednesday of fomenting violence to force a =
cancellation of the May parliamentary elections.
Home Affairs minister, Dumiso Dabengwa, the home affairs minister, said =
the authorities had uncovered a plot by the Movement for Democratic =
Change party to make the country ungovernable to foil the elections.
"The police are, therefore, under instruction to deal with violent =
elements impartially and decisively without fear or favour of any =
political party," he warned.
But the leader of the movement, Morgan Tsvangirai, said it was President =
Robert Mugabe's government which had hatched plans to foment violence as =
an excuse to cancel the polls.
He told a press conference that clashes throughout the country between =
the movement and government supporters in the last two weeks, which has =
left three people dead, were deliberately provoked by the government.
The elections are the first fiercely contested polls between the =
government and the opposition since Zimbabwe gained independence from =
Britain in 1980, and political analysts predict a possible setback for =
Mugabe.
The opposition, which the government accuse Britain and other big powers =
of sponsoring, have capitalised on Zimbabwe's worst economic downturn =
and widespread corruption in the public sector.
A cabinet minister and several senior government officials were arrested =
two weeks ago on allegations of siphoning billions of US dollars from =
state-owned companies.
The opposition called the arrests "cosmetic and too late too little and =
only intended to spruce up" the government's image ahead of the =
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Hei Guys,
Chelsea`s foreign legion has gotten closer to a semi- final stage having =
just finished trashing Barcelona 3-1. The Norwegian striker Flo finished =
in grand style, and Zola`s free kick was an exact replica of Platini`s =
in his days. The Barcelona of last week-end that humiliated Valencia and =
that of today were really two different sides. Chelsea have a big game =
in their hands though at Nou camp, and Barcelona`s single goal might be =
very crucial here
Coach, is this Ali Samaba Ali koro Samba, brother of Bai Omar Samba? He =
also played for Wallidan and the Junior squad. Joe Sambou didn`t you =
play together with Ali Koro in the junior squad?=20
Jon Alieu Carew, the half Gambian half-Norwegian striker is off to =
Valencia after a record Norwegian transfer. He cost them Kr 75 million ( =
Norwegian kroners). Ousman Nyan, Alagie Nyan`s son was almost gone to =
Greek football, but it failed because of an injury he was nursing. =
Another boy to watch out for is Boy Kah. Yes son of the very EK. Boy has =
turned 18, and is playing for the first division side V=E5lerenga. Like =
father like son.
Yus, a Senegalese brother Mamadou Diallo who was playing here for the =
past seasons has just moved to Tampa Bay, and I`m just curious as to how =
he is doing in the MLS. The MLS dont get coverage here. Do you know =
anything about him?
Regards,
Omar.
Coach I met Alagie Talla on tobaski day and he asked me to extend his =
regards. =20
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>This Samba kid seems to be a prodigy. I wish him all the best and hope =
that
>his future success will open the way for many other young aspiring
>"footballers" in The Gambia. Things look really promising for this =
kid. He
>has been featured on a few websites and scouts already have given rave
>reviews about his play, while the big guns such as Man U and Liverpool =
are
>already hot on his trail.
>
>However, we should not expect him to play for dear motherland. He has =
been
>quoted as saying that his dream is to represent England in the World =
Cup. It
>might be a bit premature to forecast his future at such a tender age. =
But
>assuming that success is imminent, I wonder if he can use his position =
on the
>world soccer stage to be an ambassador for Gambian football?
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Subject: Re: SV: =?iso-8859-1?B?oA==?= =?iso-8859-1?B?IKA=?=
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<html><head><meta Name='keywords' Content='commtouch, pronto, mail, free email, free, branded, web based, free web based email, communications, internet, software, advertising banners, e-mail, free software'></head><body ><div align='left'><font ><blockquote><blockquote><TT>Omar, you are right. Ali Koro goal kept for Wallidan and the Junior <BR>
and senior squads. He is also a younger brother to the Late Saul <BR>
Samba. I'm happy for the rising young Samba and for Ali. I have not <BR>
yet seen the kid in action but I bet you he is a duplicate of his <BR>
uncle - "Piti Baba" (Saul). I hope the kid makes it because that <BR>
would fulfill Saul's dream of playing professional. May his soul <BR>
rest <BR>
in peace.<BR>
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Chi Jaama<BR>
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Greetings:
I have been asked to pass on this sad news to the list.
Basirou Touray (aka Bass) died on Friday in Ohio. He had been battling a
prolonged illness caused by a hole in his heart. He had been trying to get
medical attention for quite a while but was unable to get the care he needed
due to a lack of funds.
His relatives are asking for your financial assistance to send the body back
home.
You may send your contributions to:
P.O. Box 13405
Silver Spring, MD 20911
Contact: Momodou Camara (Cousin), Sam Camara
Tel: 301-562-8890
May his soul rest in peace.
Latjor
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LE MEMORANDUM DES FLAM
La situation actuelle de la Mauritanie est suffisamment préoccupante á tous
points de vue,pour ne pas interpeller les patriotes sincéres sur la
nécessité de rechercher rapidement des solutions.
Le présent mémorandum s´inscrit dans ce cadre lá.
ETATS DES LIEUX
Les mauritaniens dans leur ensemble sont aujourd´hui face á un Régime
dictatorial,éthnopolitique,raciste,esclavagiste;un Régime prédateur,otage
d´un clan qui monopolise et pille les ressources nationales,se substituant
á un Etat qui a cessé d´exister.
Ils sont face á une politique nocive qui accentue chaque jour davantage la
déchirure sociale,déjá profonde entre Arabo-bérbéres et Négro-mauritaniens.
Avec ce Régime,deux questions importantes minent et dominent la vie
politique:
-LA QUESTION DE "L´UNITÉ NATIONALE",question structurelle,grave,restée
longtemps tabou et qui demeure encore malgré tout occultée;
LA QUESTION DE LA DÉMOCRATIE oú,aujourd´hui,nous sommes mis face á une
démocratie dévoyée et confisquée du fait de l´impossible alternance
imposée.
Depuis l´indépendance la question de coexistence n´a cessé de se poser avec
acuité,au travers de crises
récurrentes(1966,1979,1986/1987,1989,1990/1991),creusant toujours plus
profondément les rapports intercommunautaires,sans qu´aucune réponse
objective ne lui soit apportée.
Ces derniéres années,elle va même connaître une aggravation sans précédent
par l´action du´Régime en place.
Il est temps de tirer les lecons du passé pour se tourner résolument vers
l´avenir.
Quarante(40)années de politique de l´Autruche autour de cette
question,quarante années d´incompréhension et de refus de s´écouter,ca
suffit!
Ca suffit,si nous tenons réellement á sauvegarder le pays!
Les Mauritaniens ne peuvent plus continuer d´en faire l´économie,sans
risques majeurs.Il faut impérativement la débattre et tenter de lui
trouver,pendant qu´il est encore temps,des solutions adaptées et justes. Et
ces solutions passent selon les FLAM par la concertation.Les Mauritaniens
doivent discuter en toute sérénité,largement,sans passion et surtout sans á
priori.
Telle était la conclusion du Manifeste de 1986,tel est ce que nous
réaffirmons de nouveau ici.
Au regard de la situation de crise interne aigûe,il nous a semblé impérieux
d´inviter la classe politique,l´opposition conséquente en particulier,á
réfléchir et agir au plus vite dans une double démarche:
-Rechercher ensemble les voies et moyens d´une unité d´action de
l´opposition susceptible de créer un rapport de force qui lui soit
favorable.
-Impulser en même temps un débat de fond sur les questions essentielles de
l´Unité nationale qui engage l´avenir même de la Mauritanie,de la
Démocratie,dans une perspective de créeer une dynamique nouvelle pour le
changement futur devant reposer sur une unité nationale reconstruite sur
des bases durables plus vraies et plus saines.
Telles sont les raisons qui ont amené les FLAM á apporter ici un certain
nombre de réponses autour de questions cruciales,sensibles pour la majorité
de la classe politique,et sur lesquelles pourtant il faut bien que les uns
et les autres se prononcent un jour.
LA QUESTION NATIONALE
Lorsqu´on parle de question nationale,on se référe le plus souvent á
l´ensemble des questions sous-jacentes touchant á la discrimination
raciale,á l´identité de la Mauritanie,á l´Autonomie.Il s´agit également de
la question culturelle,de spoliation des terres,du passif
humanitaire(crimes commis et déportation de mauritaniens),de l´esclavage...
Toutes ces questions renvoint en fait á l´enjeu de la cohabitation entre
Arabo-bérbéres et Négro-africains évoquée par euphémisme le plus souvent
sous le vocable de"probléme de l´Unité nationale"ou de la "Question
nationale".
-LA QUESTION DE L´ESCLAVAGE
Si nous devons reconnaître que la question de l´esclavage reste vivante
dans les faits et dans les mentalités de la plupart des Mauritaniens,nous
devons le mettre au compte de l´Administration qui n´a jamais oeuvré
réellement pour son éradication;car des mesures juridiques rigoureuses et
fermes n´ont jamais été prises contre les tenants de cette pratique.Il est
impensable et inacceptable qu´á l´oréee du 3éme millénaire,des hommes
puissent être considérés comme des bêtes de somme.
Les victimes,essentiellement Haratines,doivent bénéficier á la fois du
soutien de la loi,d´un appui économique et scolaire. L´Ecole mauritanienne
du futur devra contribuer á forger une nouvelle mentalité débarassée de
l´esclavage et de l´esprit de castes,tournée vers la libération de l´homme
et de sa promotion en tant que citoyen responsable.
-LA QUESTION CULTURELLE
Beaucoup d´observateurs,peu avertis,ont tendance á interpréter le probléme
négro-mauritanien comme une question essentiellement culturelle.C´est une
erreur car la question culturelle n´est qu´un aspect du probléme global que
pose l´unité nationale.
Il faut,nous semble-t-il,rechercher la solution á cette question en partant
des principes de base suivants:
-Aucune culture,ni aucune langue nationale n´est en soi supérieure aux
autres langues et cultures nationales;
-Á L´Ecole,l´unification du systéme scolaire devra reposer sur la place et
la considération á accorder aux langues négro-africaines,á l´Arabe,á côté
du francais.
-LA QUESTION DES TERRES
Par la réforme fonciére de 1983(Ordonnance numero83127du 05juin1983),les
Autorités allaient poursuivre la dépossession progressive des
Négro-mauritaniens de leurs terres.
Pour vaincre la résistance des populations hostiles á cette réforme
scélérate,le Regime de Ould Taya allait profiter des évenements
Sénégalo-mauritaniens de 1989,pour procéder á des spoliations massives et
sans précédent,et déporter des dizaines de milliers de propriétaires
Négro-mauritaniens vers le Sénégal et le Mali.C´est inacceptable. La
solution au probléme de redistribution des terres doit être trouvée dans la
mise en place d´une réforme agraire á caractére NATIONAL,qui procéderait
par cercles concentriques.L´accés á la terre d´abord aux autochtones
locaux,ensuite aux nationaux,enfin aux investisseurs sous-régionaux et
internationaux,dans la préservation des droits séculiers des pasteurs,des
pêcheurs et des paysans.
-"LE PASSIF HUMANITAIRE"
Il s´agit lá d´un euphémisme utilisé par ceux lá qui répugnent á parler des
déportations et des crimes commis contre les Négro-mauritaniens.Ces crimes
commis entre 1986-1991 ne sauraient rester impunis sous peine de saper les
fondements même de la vie en commun.
La soultion á la question de ces crimes doit être recherchée dans
l´équilibre á trouver entre la nécéssité du pardon,le refus de l´impunité
et les exigences de réparations.
En ce qui concerne les réfugiés,ils doivent être réhabiltés et réinstallés
dans tous leurs droits.
Ce serait toutefois une erreur de croire que les réparations des crimes et
des déportations suffiraient á elles seules á assurer la
réconciliation.Non,il faut plus,grâce á un train de mesures plus
hardies,propres á créeer un climat d´apaisement social.Il s´agira,en plus
de procéder á une amnistie pleine et entiére des anciens détenus et exilés
politiques,de réintégrer les fonctionnaires arbitrairement radiés,de lever
l´état de siége dans la vallée,de mettre en place une commission
vérité/reconciliation.
Ce sont lá des mesures aptes á créer les conditions optimales d´apaisement
propre á amorcer le Débat,car il faut débattre.LE PROBLEME DE LA MAURITANIE
EST D´ABORD ET SURTOUT UN PROBLÉME POLITIQUE avant d´être un probléme de
violations des droits de l´Homme.
Il faut dés lors discuter,engager un débat large et sans exclusive.
-LA QUESTION DE L´IDENTITÉ DE LA MAURITANIE
Toutes ces questions que nous avons passé en revue renvoint,en fait,á la
cause premiére,L´IDENTITÉ DE LA MAURITANIE.La Mauritanie est-elle ou
devrait-elle être arabe ou négro-africaine?
En vérité ,la Mauritanie,pour être viable,devra garder un juste équilibre
entre son caractére arabe et son caractére négro-africain.Elle devra être
un traît d´union entre le monde noir et le monde arabe.Bien gérée,cette
diversité pourrait constituer une richesse inestimable pour tous.
-LA QUESTION DE L´AUTONOMIE
La meilleure maniére de capitaliser cette richesse serait de revoir
nécessairement la cohabitation entre les communautés,aprés l´échec d´une
expérience de plus de trois décennies.Cette cohabitation devra désormais
reposer sur la base de l´AUTONOMIE á l´image du modéle belge ou
sud-africain.Cette proposition de solution,nous semble pertinente á
plusieurs égards:
-Historiquement l´on sait que bien des Empires africains se sont constitués
á partir de royaumes annexés,mais non déstructurés;
-Présentement,l´autonomie constitue un mode dominant de réglement,tant en
Afrique qu´en Europe,des problémes de cohabitation;
-Enfin elle n´entre pas nécessairement en conflit avec les objectifs de
construction nationale.
En tout état de cause,il devient indispensable que LES COMMUNAUTÉS PRENNENT
EN MAIN LA GESTION DE LEUR TERROIR ET MODÉLENT Á CET EFFET LEURS PROPRES
INSTITUTIONS TOUT EN PRÉSERVANT LE LIEN UNITAIRE.
En tout cas,l´Etat unitaire centralisé,á moins d´être profondément remanié
dans une perspective d´un JUSTE ÉQUILIBRE DANS LA GESTION DU POUVOIR
POLITIQUE,ne saurait répondre aux attentes nouvellement exprimés.
-LA QUESTION DE LA DÉMOCRATIE
L´amorce du"processus démocratique"en Mauritanie a été comme partout
ailleurs en Afrique,inspiré et "forcé"par le discours de la Baule. Mais lá
moins qu´ailleurs,il aura tout juste permis l´existence formelle de partis
politiques,rien de plus.Notre"Démocratie"aura surtout permis un Régime
militaire dictatorial de s´octroyer une caution de légitimité,sans changer
fondamentalement de nature.Voilá il serait naîf de la part de l´opposition
d´espérer obtenir le respect des libértés fondamentales,ou des éléctions
libres et transparentes.
Avec ce Régime militaro-clanique il serait illusoire de compter sur une
alternance possible.
Ce que cherche au contraire Ould Taya c´est plutôt élargir sa mouvance
présidentielle,domestiquer les consciences á la maniére des partis uniques
d´antan.
Par ailleurs-autre faiblesse-la"Démocratie"instaurée par Ould Taya est
venue se greffer sur un "passif humanitaire"toujours pendant et une
situation politique de discrimination raciale ouverte,qu´elle a
volontairement occultée et masquée.
Or une démocratisation authentique ne saurait prendre appui sur un tel
fondement.
Voilá pourquoi on ne peut lui accorder un quelconque crédit. Face á un
processus "démocratique"biaisé et confisqué il y a lieu de réagir,non pas
par l´adhésion tacite au statu-quo-ante plutôt favorable au Régime,mais par
le choix résolu d´une stratégie et de méthodes offensives,propres á hâter
le changement.
UN CHANGEMENT dont les lignes de force seraient la RÉCONCILIATION
NATIONALE-car les Mauritaniens ont d´abord besoin de se reconcilier-,UN
DÉBAT NATIONAL et enfin le REDRESSEMENT ET LA CONSOLIDATION DU PROCESSUS
pour le libre exercice du jeu démocratique dans les conditions de
transparence requises;le tout piloté par un gouvernement d´union nationale
pour la période transitoire.
CONCLUSION
Il est encore temps de construire dans l´intérêt bien compris de tous un
ETAT DÉMOCRATIQUE,ÉGALITAIRE ET DE LIBÉRTÉ:un Etat fondé sur la base de
CITOYENS RESPECTUEUX DU BIEN PUBLIC,ÉGAUX EN DROITS ET EN DEVOIRS SANS
CONSIDÉRATION DE RACE OU DE TRIBU. LES FLAM lancent un appel á l´ensemble
des forces politiques progressistes mauritaniennes,á engager le débat sans
tarder,pour l´édification d´un véritable ETAT DE DROIT,d´oú seraient bannis
á jamais l´esclavage,le racisme,l´exclusion et la misére.
Fait á Dakar,le 21 Mars 2000. maurita
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Omar, it seems as if we have many prospects coming up. Hopefully, they will all come back to represent The Gambia. Then we shall qualify for the WC. (laugh) I culled this info about Mamadou Diallo from Tampa's website. It seems as if he is highly regarded here:
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With Tampa Bay: Guest player for Mutiny for 10-day stretch in early March ... Scored four of Mutiny's eight goals in 8-1 win over University of Tampa March 2, then collected Tampa Bay's only score on PK against Chicago Fire March 4 ... Four shots on goal versus Fire ... Suffered slightly sprained ankle early in second half of Fire exhibition and sat out remainder of match ... Mutiny's top goal scorer of spring.
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At this point, Tampa Bay is in second position in the Eastern Central Conference. Momadou has not scored yet but I look forward to watching him play.
BTW, I thing the MLS is terrible. The final game between DC and LA seemed like a high school game between SAHS and GHS or something. Their games seem to be highly physical and lacking in skill. But what they lack in skill, the Americans make up with the effort they put in the game.
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I could not believe reading about the recent nomination of Mr. Sam Sillah as
the
National President of the United Democratic Party. I want to thank Mr.
Sillah for making a great decision of courage and determination.The United
Democratic Party needs more visionaries in getting rid of the military
dictatorship in The Gambia.
I came to know Mr. Sam Sillah during his few visits to Bakau from Nigeria.
This was around 1972 when I was a student at Saint Augustine's High School.
I used to walk pass Sillah Kunda in Bakau only to get a glimpse of this
Gambian hero. Though we are separated by distance, I can still see his
friendly smile. Mr. Sillah, I cannot express my joy, but can only hope to
get a big hug from you one day. Your courage and wisdom will forever make
Bakau a stronghold for the opposition.
With the recent election of Mr. Abdoulie Wade as President of The Republic of
Senegal, Gambians are delighted to have Mr. Sam Sillah as a comrade in arms
with Mr. Ousainou Darboe.
May the prayers of our elders be answered. May the struggle of the
opposition together with the efforts of Mr. Sam Sillah defeat the
dictatorship in The Gambia. Mr. Sam Sillah plus Mr. Ousainou Darboe = a
defeat for dictator yahya jemus. Gambians cannot wait for the next
presidential elections. Down with dictator yahya jemus.
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Karamba:
Let us not try cynical political paybacks to the members of the dictatorship,
including dictator yahya jemus. Our next step after winning the presidency
is to unite all Gambians and restrain ourselves from political vindictiveness.
After the dust settles, Gambians must go back to work. We cannot be
vindictive and cynical against any Gambian who dislikes the opposition. Our
efforts should be based on nation building. Every Gambian has a role to play
in the next republic. Democracy forever.
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<< Subj: AMC-NET: Tony Blair Praises Islam
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With the Name of God, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful
Tony Blair Calls on Britain to Reach Out for More Understanding of Islam
"There is a lot of misunderstanding about Islam. It is a deeply reflective,
peaceful, a very beautiful religious faith," stated British Prime Minister
Tony Blair, in an interview with The Muslim News, a United Kingdom based
newspaper.
The Prime Minister stated that he "owns two copies of the Qu'ran and carries
one with him whenever he can," a habit he picked up from Chelsea Clinton. He
also expressed his respect for Islam by saying that he ".draws inspiration
from it. If you read the Qu'ran.it is so clear, the concept of love and
fellowship as the guiding spirits of humanity."
The public statements made by the Prime Minister illustrating his
appreciation of Islam, and his call for the necessity of Britain to ".reach
out and build greater understanding of what Islam is and means and the
values that underpin it," are an illustration of the growing recognition of
Islam.
Mr. Blair also predicted that there would be more Muslim Members of
Parliament in the next election. In fact he said that he would be, "very
surprised if the Labour Party didn't have any Muslim candidates standing in
winnable seats in the next election."
This interview with The Muslim News and Mr. Blair's words of praise, come
after Britain sent the first ever official, British Hajj Delegation to offer
consular assistance to British pilgrims. Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, who was
nominated by Blair and became the first ever Muslim in the House of Lords,
headed the Hajj Delegation.
"The acknowledgment by the British government of its Muslim citizens is
greatly appreciated and respected by the American Muslim community. We look
for the increased inclusion of Muslims in public affairs and a more
proactive role in their society," states Aly Abuzaakouk, Executive Director
of the American Muslim Council.
The full text of the interview can be read at The Muslim News website.
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Hi, Jabou, this is very interesting. Good to see that Mr. Blare is
recognizing and not denouncing Islam, as so many in the West, it seems, are
prone to do...
Ginny
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> In a message dated 4/5/00 6:36:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
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> << Subj: AMC-NET: Tony Blair Praises Islam
> Date: 4/5/00 6:36:47 PM Central Daylight Time
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> With the Name of God, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful
>
>
> Tony Blair Calls on Britain to Reach Out for More Understanding of Islam
>
> "There is a lot of misunderstanding about Islam. It is a deeply
reflective,
> peaceful, a very beautiful religious faith," stated British Prime
Minister
> Tony Blair, in an interview with The Muslim News, a United Kingdom based
> newspaper.
>
> The Prime Minister stated that he "owns two copies of the Qu'ran and
carries
> one with him whenever he can," a habit he picked up from Chelsea Clinton.
He
> also expressed his respect for Islam by saying that he ".draws
inspiration
> from it. If you read the Qu'ran.it is so clear, the concept of love and
> fellowship as the guiding spirits of humanity."
>
> The public statements made by the Prime Minister illustrating his
> appreciation of Islam, and his call for the necessity of Britain to
".reach
> out and build greater understanding of what Islam is and means and the
> values that underpin it," are an illustration of the growing recognition
of
> Islam.
>
> Mr. Blair also predicted that there would be more Muslim Members of
> Parliament in the next election. In fact he said that he would be, "very
> surprised if the Labour Party didn't have any Muslim candidates standing
in
> winnable seats in the next election."
>
> This interview with The Muslim News and Mr. Blair's words of praise, come
> after Britain sent the first ever official, British Hajj Delegation to
offer
> consular assistance to British pilgrims. Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, who was
> nominated by Blair and became the first ever Muslim in the House of
Lords,
> headed the Hajj Delegation.
>
> "The acknowledgment by the British government of its Muslim citizens is
> greatly appreciated and respected by the American Muslim community. We
look
> for the increased inclusion of Muslims in public affairs and a more
> proactive role in their society," states Aly Abuzaakouk, Executive
Director
> of the American Muslim Council.
>
> The full text of the interview can be read at The Muslim News website.
> http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/131/131-1-1.html
>
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Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Daddy, I agree with you somewhat. I myself can somewhat understand the
language, but what is the point of posting solely in French? At first, I=
was
going to read the post because it seemed interesting. Then, on second
thoughts, I decided that instead of having to pull out my French dictiona=
ry
and catch up on the language, I deserved to read the post in English. Af=
ter
all, this is a Bantaba for Gambians, and none of us deserves to be left o=
ut
of a conversation. It is one thing not to be interested in a particular
topic, but I find it absolutely ridiculous that another person who is
interested in Fatou's topic and is unable to read French will have to use=
the
delete button, while their curiosity is left begging. Is this space goin=
g to
be a free for all where people can post in other relatively obscure langu=
ages
such as Swedish and Arabic? At this pace, we might as well open the L to=
all
other languages and make it a place where people speak in different tongu=
es,
consequently blocking most other solely English speaking Gambians from th=
eir
discussions.
But I have had the whole day to think about my earlier post, prompting me=
to
think about a reasonable compromise. How about, along with a post in ano=
ther
language, an accompanying translation in English? This so that everyone h=
as
access to the post. No matter how democratic and tolerant we want to be,=
we
have to understand that along with our culture the thing that binds us
together the most and allows our messages to be heard is the English
language.
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he
compromise you mention. Fatou if you read this, I hope you'll indulge us.=
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Daddy, I agree with you in that respect. It also seems as if a consensus has been reached by those that responded. Most seem to be content with allowing French postings on the list. That said, it still does drive me crazy when I have to struggle to read a post in a different language. But, I have no choice but to grudgingly agree with the status quo.
Sorry for any misunderstandings.
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Today is the first day of the Islamic new year ( Hijrah calendar- AH )
1421
The festivities include what we have locally in Gambia as Tallabone and
Tamharett
The tenth day is Ashura which is now a holiday in Banjul , I
understand.- correct me if I am wrong
So I take this opportunity to wish you all a happy new year and best
wishes to on the L
and remember Gambia in our prayers
Habib Diab Ghanim , Sr
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<br>Today is the first day of the Islamic new year ( Hijrah calendar- AH
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<p>The festivities include what we have locally in Gambia as Tallabone
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<p>The tenth day is Ashura which is now a holiday in Banjul , I understand.-
correct me if I am wrong
<p>So I take this opportunity to <font face="Courier New,Courier"><font size=+2>wish
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I sympathise with your frustration brother! but the classical argument to be
put forward is the essence of the medium. Language is a human resource that
can contribute greately to the development of mankind.
Consider this: I gained my accademic background in Sweden, therefore
"supossed" to be fluent in Swedish.If I have to choose, possibly I may
prefer to write in Swedish,categorically to effectively prounced my message.
What about those born in Sweden, France, Germany and identifies themselves
as Gambians? I have never read some where, at any time that Gambia L. was
suppossed to be for those Gambians who speak only English, or have I missed
the point? There are non english speaking (or non fluent) Gambians on this
list, very resourceful and cerntainly desrve to be heard!
The importance of language cannot be express in words.I mean if our
languages we speak back home, those languages we dream in, formulate
meanings were written mediums, we could have understand each other better to
an extend know our neighbour better.Imagine what a resource that would have
been! Admidttedly, language can play an essential role in the individuals
development, socially, economically and politically.Therefore, Senegal being
our immediate neighbour naturally justifies why some Gambians should even be
experts in a languag like French.
Certainly, I am well aware that we are not lenient in learning other
languages.Despite I speak, some French, Arabic and understand the Nordic
languages, I wish I could speak some more other languages.We cannot
understand the importance of language untill the jeopardy arises.With
personal exprience at a recent study visit I did at ESSEC- Cornell
University in Paris, proved this argument futile.
What I want to say is that, all these languages we are exposed to are
treasures that we must utilise in an effective manner. We must take the
opportunity to entertain the value of this richness of variety.We must
remember that the world is not uni-Lingua. And by the way who says that the
Language of instruction in the world should be English?
Yahya
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>Daddy, I agree with you in that respect. It also seems as if a consensus
>has been reached by those that responded. Most seem to be content with
>allowing French postings on the list. That said, it still does drive me
>crazy when I have to struggle to read a post in a different language. But,
>I have no choice but to grudgingly agree with the status quo.
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>Sorry for any misunderstandings.
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Kabir,
Grateful forward on the list as i have been technically taken out of
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It is with deep regret that i wish to announce the death of Aji Haddy
ceesay of
Rankin Street. Ya Haddy was the mother to Dr Omar Touray ,Baks Touray
,Amat and
the rest of the Touray. Ya Haddy was a dear and caring mother who
devoted all
her time in taking care of all the kids of Rankin Street and the
nabourhood. Our
condolences to Omar, Baks and the rest of the family. May her soul rest
in
perfect peace.
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>It is with deep regret that I announce the death of my dear aunt, Aji
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>Saine of Mantel Street, Banjul and also wife of Koto Bamba Njie of
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>Orleans., Louisiana.
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>Koto Bamba is currently visiting The Gambia.
>This sudden death occured yesterday, April 1 whilst they were
performing
>Salat ul Maghreb.
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>May Allah give her Jannah.
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>Fatou Saine-Darbo
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Gambia-L,
Thought one or two might be interested in reading the piece below. It formed
part of my contribution to a seminar I attended yesterday in Wolverhampton,
near Birmingham, on Eradicating Worldwide Poverty, organised by "BETTER
WORLD."
Ebrima Ceesay
Birmingham, UK.
PS: Omar Drammeh, congragulations on the Chelsea victory. Zola, what a
player!!! What about Emerson Thome, the Brazilian defender who partnered
Marcel Desailly in the absence of the injured Frank Lobeauf. What a good
buy? Chelsea paid Sheffield Wednesday just £2 million for Emerson! Watch out
for him!!
Yes, Cherno Samba's dad is Ali Koro Samba who, like his late Brother Saul,
also played together with Brother Joe Sambou. Bai Omar Samba, as you
thought, is Ali's younger brother.
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I am indeed honoured and more than pleased to be asked to take part in
todays' seminar on "How to Eradicate Worldwide Poverty."
I am delighted to be here because the theme means a lot me as a journalist,
but more importantly, having come from a Continent where the landscape is
underdeveloped, where starvation reigns supreme and where disease and
squalor are part of a daily existence.
But let us not fool ourselves, for poverty and inequality is not just an
African problem. Poverty is a global disease, also found in the Western
World, and certainly it needs to be tackled urgently in my view; otherwise
the result would, of course, be a serious breakdown of social cohesion and
an increase in many social problems in our societies.
I must, however, say that nowadays, the disparity between the rich and the
poor is in fact unbelievable! The statistics, I have got for you, are indeed
frightening. That's why I, for one, have always laughed at reports/claims
that the World Economic System "now delivers more for all", because really
the facts suggest otherwise.
Among most of the 4.4 billion people living in Africa, Asia, and Latin
America, it is fair to say that life has indeed become a more desperate
struggle for survival.
The UNDP estimates that 840 million people worldwide are malnourished, the
majority of them living in countries of the Third world. In fact, more than
half the countries for which statistics are available do not have enough
food to provide all their population with the minimum daily requirements of
calories.
It is reported that "in some regions, hunger has become far more general."
Across Africa, for instance, the average household now consume 25 per cent
less than in the early 1970s.
Furthermore, it is reported that between 1995 and 1997, only 21 out of 147
Third World countries recorded per capita growth of over 3 per cent a year -
the rate specified by the UN for reduction of poverty."
During this period, California in the US alone, according to the UN, had a
Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of equal value to that of China and India
combined.
In fact, there is a survey which even says that the wealth of the world's 15
richest people now exceeds the combined GDP of Sub Saharan Africa and that
the wealth of the world's richest 84 individuals exceeds the GDP of China,
with its 1.2 billion inhabitants.
Therefore, in the light of these facts, one can safely say that there is no
evidence to suggest that worldwide human suffering is in fact alleviating at
the pace we would want it.
Between 1960 and 1994, we are told by various surveys that the gap in per
capita income between the richest fifth of the world's people (most of whom
are in developed countries) and the poorest fifth (mostly in developing
countries) more than doubled from 30:1 to 78:1.
By the mid 1990s, this trend was said to be "becoming more marked". In fact,
by 1995, the ratio was 82:1. And, in 1997, the richest fifth of the world's
people had obtained 86 per cent of the world income; the poorest fifth
received just 1.3 per cent. Consequently, some 1.3 billion people had
subsisted on less than $1 dollar per day - a life threatening decline in
living standards since the 1960s.
By 1996, no less than 30 countries showed an annual decline in Human
Development Index, which measures literacy, life expectancy and access to
health services, safe water and adequate food. Among 147 countries defined
as within the Developing World, 100 had experienced "serious economic
decline" over the past 30 years.
By 2030, the UNDP estimates, world GDP will more than double but Africa will
experience a further sharp decline in its share of the world total from 1.2
per cent in 1997 to 0.4 per cent.
In Latin America, the number of people living in poverty increased between
1990 and 1995, from 183 million to 230 million, or 48 per cent of that
Continent's population.
In fact, the disparity between the rich and poor has grown so enormously,
over the years, that in 1997, 225 people worldwide were identified by the
UNDP, as having combined wealth of $1 Trillion in US dollar terms.
Of these ultra-rich, over 60 per cent were said to be based in the most
advanced industrial countries, including Japan. Of the rest, about half were
based in Asia, a quarter in Latin America and the Caribbean, and the rest in
Arab States, Russia and Eastern Europe. Only two of the 225 were from Africa
- South Africa I mean!
Last month, your country's (Britain's) Rich list, compiled annually by the
Sunday Times newspaper, recorded an increase since last year, of almost £31
billion pounds in collective wealth of the 1,000 wealthiest people in
Britain.
The newspaper had reported that "the rise is the highest surge since it
began compiling the list 12 years ago. The top 1,000's collective wealth has
increased by 27 per cent to almost £146 billion pounds. The Sunday Times
further reported that the world's wealthiest people are to be found in
America.
Some 27 of the richest 50 people internationally are Americans. Bill Gates
of Microsoft leads the Sunday Times list with a personal fortune of £53
billion pounds sterling.
So all the evidence available today suggests that inequality is in fact
becoming much more visible/pronounced. During the 1960s, the poorest 50 per
cent of people in Brazil received some 18 per cent of National Income; but
by the mid 1990s, the figure had fallen to 11.6 per cent.
In Egypt, 23 per cent of the population was estimated to be below the
poverty line in the late 1970s; however, by the early 1990s, the figure had
risen to over 40 per cent.
Just on Tuesday, it was reported - over the BBC - that more than 8 million
people in Ethiopia alone, were now threatened by famine. Ironically, we all
know that there is enough food produced that could feed everyone on earth.
I am sure if all the surplus food in the stores/supermarkets in the West
were distributed to the needy/hungry, no one would starve. In fact be
informed that in 1976, the United Nations FAO did announce, in its annual
report, that "there shouldn't be difficulty, given the current state of
knowledge about food production, in doubling world food production."
An expert had argued that "if the world food production was organised, as it
is in Holland, there would in fact be enough food to feed 67 billion people
- 15 times the entire world's population."
So, there is no dispute about the fact that could be or there is in fact
enough food on earth to feed all the hungry people in the world, but why
don't they (the hungry) get the food is the question to be posed?
Here in England, there are enough empty houses, for instances, to house the
homeless people who are freezing on the streets, but why don't they live in
them?
Well, the answer to these questions is simple! It is because the world in
which we live is governed by a system called Capitalism, which is driven by
the accumulation of wealth for the minority at the expense of the majority.
Capitalism depends on markets forces which drive the owners of means of
production to compete with each other to produce according to where they can
make a PROFIT.
Yes, the world has certainly got the technology and the capacity to put a
complete stop to the massive poverty gripping its inhabitants.
But the fact of the matter is that the rich class in control - I mean the
capitalist merchants, the distributors, the mega-farmers - will become
interested in producing food if ONLY they can make a PROFIT out of it.
Now, the 18 million people in the Horn of Africa currently facing
starvation, unfortunately, do not have the money to buy the food at the
price necessary for profit, so they don't get the food unless and until
someone buys it for them. It is as simple as that.
Also, there is enough cement in the UK to build extra homes for the
homeless, but why is the number for the homeless people in Britain on the
rise when there are in fact more than enough bricks here to build more
houses for the homeless?
Again, the truth is that the capitalist entrepreneurs who control the wealth
will only build more houses if they could make a profit. And since the
homeless don't have the money to pay for a mortgage to buy a house, then
that should explain why more houses are not now being built, or why empty
houses are around and yet more and more people are becoming homeless.
Now, take marijuana as an example (but please don't get me wrong for I am a
non-smoker ). Anyway, why is "weed", as you call it here, which is in fact
said to be useful for remedying certain ailment, smuggled and sold secretly,
while cigarettes which cause far more deaths than the "weed", is advertised
in the open, and also sold openly? Of course, the answer is simple: there is
legal profit in tobacco, but only illegal profit in weed.
Meanwhile, a recent report, issued by the Organisation for the Economic
Cooperation Development (OECD) has suggested that poverty in Western Europe
and North America "is far wider than previously calculated."
The report, entitled "Poverty Dynamics in Six OECD Countries", had surveyed
Canada, Germany, The Netherlands, Sweden, the UK, and the US.
Between 12 and almost 40 per cent of the population across the six countries
were affected by poverty over the six-year period of the study - a much
larger percentage than would be suggested by the "static" poverty rates.
Interestingly, the country with the highest poverty rates - both static and
over the six year-period - is the UK, followed by the US and Canada. Before
benefits payments, 55 per cent of the population of the UK fell below the
poverty line at least once in a six-year period.
After benefits, the figure is just under 40 per cent. The UK figures
therefore reveal/show how widespread poverty has become in Britain; in fact
more than half the UK population can expect to be touched by it at any one
time, according to the report. And welfare benefits payments have such a
marginal effect on this.
In fact, it is now clear that the more people on the dole, or on welfare
benefits, the more the government will cut down on public spending. So, as
long as more people are on the dole, or receiving State benefits, the
government will continue to spend less on health, on education, on housing
or on employing people in stable jobs.
And what makes the OECD poverty figures "most striking", according to some
analysts, is that they were calculated during a period when most of the
countries surveyed had "enjoyed economic stability" or even, as in the case
of the US and UK, "a boom."
Anyway, having said that, despite this "boom", another survey - also issued
recently - had concluded that "Britain is the most unequal country in the
developed world after New Zealand, with a wealth gap between the richest and
the poorest in society wider than in Ghana and Ethiopia."
In fact, since 1979, the richest ten per cent of the British population have
seen their income rise by 65 per cent in real terms, while the income of the
poorest ten per cent has actually dropped by 13 per cent.
A report, issued by the Family Budget Unit, estimated that "the cost of a
modest but adequate diet for a family of four in the UK comes to £69 pounds
a week."
If that family were living on income support, or on welfare benefits, the
amount of money they would have for food in their weekly budget would be
just £41 pounds.
"It is no wonder that many families find themselves unable to make ends meet
and parents often have to go hungry to ensure their children are fed," says
the report.
And with Prime Minister Tony Blair's government committed to further cuts in
public spending, especially vis-a-vis welfare, it is clear that an economic
reversal will, say many analysts, "produce a social catastrophe of
unprecedented proportions."
So, don't be surprised if more NHS hospitals and council houses are closed
down. I don't have recent figures, but in fact in 1981, over 45,000 council
houses were built here, but in 1991, the number had slumped: only a little
over 8,000 council houses were built in 1991! This meant that capital
spending on council houses in 1982 was £2.9 billion pounds, but it fell to
£1.5 billion in 1992.
Anyway, coming back to the theme of our discussion, we should now ask
ourselves the question: Can poverty be eradicated?
Well, in my view, poverty can indeed be eradicated because it is caused by
human decisions and actions. But let us be frank with ourselves: as long as
we continue to live in a mad capitalist world which is driven by profit
making, mass poverty and high levels of inequality, in my view, will remain
with us, because the truth is that Capitalism is actually based on a few
people with money and power controlling the lives of the majority, period.
In my honest view, the disparity between the rich and the poor will always
have to grow, because the fact of the matter is that these rich people, who
interestingly are in a tiny minority, own the means of producing things, the
means of financing things and the mean of distributing things.
So from this ownership of the offices, the banks, the factories, the houses,
the stores, the oil and water companies, they'll continue to derive their
dividends, their rents and their interests!
These rich people, as small a group as they are, almost own everything where
goods are produced, transported, distributed bought and sold. But having
said that, that doesn't necesarily mean that they are better than you and I,
or they are in fact more enterprising than us.
In fact, some of them inherited their wealth, while the majority of them got
their wealth from what is termed as "unearned income." In short, their
wealth had come from rents; interests towards monies they keep in banks, or
dividends coming from shares in companies they own.
Now, let us take D.J. Chris Evans as an example. He is certainly not better
than any one of us here, but I am sure you are aware that recently, he sold
his Virgin Radio and Ginger Company - which he bought for about £80 million
some time ago - for over £200 million.
So, just one day, Chris Evans made a fortune of over £100 million pounds.
Anyway, good luck to Chris Evans, but this is, I am afraid to say, the
reality of the system under which the world we live in today, is run.
In fact, it was revealed by the Treasury that in 1998 over £8 billion pounds
of what is termed as an "unearned income" had gone into pockets of the top 1
per cent of the British tax payers, that is just about 250,000 people.
Now, let me give you another example: Saddam Hussein of Iraq. In my view, in
1990, the West launched a war against him when he invaded Kuwait not because
the West wanted to teach a bitter lesson to an aggressor, but because the
West was obliged to protect Kuwait since it had a huge business interest in
that country.
Kuwait was producing, at the time, 8 per cent of the world's oil and surely,
the profits of the oil companies, most of them owned by Westerners, would
have been threatened if the regime in Kuwait was overthrown by Saddam
Hussein's forces.
And take it from me that despite all these anti-Saddam Hussein sentiments
being expressed by Western Governments, the West, especially the US, given
the huge commercial interest it has in the Middle East Region, would, in
private, prefer to see Saddam Hussein continue to rule Iraq.
Why? You may ask. Well, because as long as there is a hostile government, or
leader, in Iraq, the West will continue to say to Arab countries in the
Gulf: "Look, you have to keep buying sophisticated arms from us so as to
protect yourselves, because the devil (Saddam Hussein) is still in power,
and you know no one can never predict what he is up to."
In fact, after the Gulf war ended, the British arms industry alone, in 1992,
had exported £26 billion pounds worth of weapons. And it is fair to assume
that most of these weapons were sold to Gulf countries.
And talking about Western double standards, let me inform you that while
your Foreign Minister, Robin Cook, is calling on President Robert Mugabe of
Zimbabwe to hold multi-party elections in Zimbabwe in May 2000, as
scheduled, there is in fact a country in Africa, Uganda, which is still a
one-party state, and yet, as far as I know, Mr Cook is not saying anything
about it.
In Uganda, opposition parties are banned, but the West has never complained
about it. In fact, didn't President Bill Clinton visit Uganda in 1999,
during his Africa tour? Well, let me now tell you why the West refuses to
take President Museveni of Uganda to task: The Western Governments like
President Museveni because he is a strong defender/proponent of IMF and
World policies in Africa, period.
Anyway, let me conclude on a brighter observation; by saying that in any
case, those of us who are here, should, all the same, thank God, because
despite all these minuses in Western Societies that I have cited, ranging
from abject poverty, multiple crimes to homelessness, the Western World, in
my honest view, still offers more opportunities for man than other places in
the world.
Yes, the system here doesn't favour minorities, especially blacks, but one
can still find consolation in the fact that a man/woman can push some of
these prejudices and discrimination behind him/her and do well for himself
and his family.
I thank you all for listening so attentively.
Ebrima Ceesay
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Latjorr,
Please extend my heartfelt condolences to Momodou Camara on death of Basirou
Touray. Bass had once worked as a security personnel at the US Embassy in
the Gambia where he was known for his affability. May his soul rest in
peace.
Also my sincere condolences to Dr Omar Touray and Baks on the sad loss of
Omar's mother. May her soul rest in peace.
Ebrima Ceesay
PS: Bekai Keita in Atlanta, I need to contact you urgently, but I have lost
your e-mail. Please send me your e-mail address privately if you get this
message.
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>Greetings:
>I have been asked to pass on this sad news to the list.
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>Basirou Touray (aka Bass) died on Friday in Ohio. He had been battling a
>prolonged illness caused by a hole in his heart. He had been trying to get
>medical attention for quite a while but was unable to get the care he
>needed
>due to a lack of funds.
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>His relatives are asking for your financial assistance to send the body
>back
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>You may send your contributions to:
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>Contact: Momodou Camara (Cousin), Sam Camara
>Tel: 301-562-8890
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>May his soul rest in peace.
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Madiba,
Thanks for that piece on Nelson Mandela's visit to the UK.Mandela will also
during his short stay in Britain visit Bedford tomorrow to inspect the bust
of the late Arch Bishop Trevor Huddleston here in Bedford.
Mandela will then unveil his own inscription on the bust in tribute to the
man he called "a pillar of wisdom".Trevor Huddleston, a Bedford- born
Archbishop,spent most of his life fighting Aparthied.
Greetings!
lamin B Jammeh.
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GAMBIA-L
Do you know how i can get some information about the gambia public health
system or perhaps some information about the public health system for
international and third world countries.
thank u
fatou
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Yus,
Thanks for the respond. Mamadou Diallo had some great seasons here with =
Lillestr=F8m, which made him a hero in this town in the outskirts of =
Oslo. He was devastating when he was in form, powerful and skilfull. He =
was always in the limelight, and he seemed to enjoy every bit of it. =
Diallo struck the attention of many top teams in Europe, and the =
Bundesliga team Duisburg succeeded in getting him over on loan. That was =
where Diallo`s problems started. He failed to secure a fix place in the =
line up, and in the end he was not playing at all. Lillestr=F8m brought =
him back, and tried to absorb him once again. Prior to this the team had =
signed a South African goalkeeper. It is such tha in Norwegian football, =
not more than one player from otside the the EEC are allowed to play in =
a game at the same time. The South African goalkeeper was already doing =
his job well. When Diallo came back, he was in bad shape, had put on =
some weight, and yes he was nursing a cronic injury. But the fans loved =
him, and gradually he was absorbed in the team again. He started =
playing, and the South African was left out. Diallo failed to revive his =
scoring machinery, and Lillestr=F8m started losing. Consequently, he wa =
sidelined, and the South African reinstated. Diallo got grumpy, and he =
wanted to leave. This time V=E5lerenga was struggling against =
relegation, and they got him on loan. His stars started shinning again, =
and he almost single handedly saved V=E5leranga from relegation. The =
crucial encounter was against his fromer team Lillestr=F8m, and lady =
luck really smiled to Diallo that day. They had to win and two beautiful =
Diallo goals ,and one assist made the day for them. He got into a row =
with his former team, because when he scored against them, he ran to =
their fans and celeberated his goal. Lillestr=F8m interpreted that as a =
mockery, and Diallo said that was a sign of showing affection to fans =
who loved him. Now he finished doing his work at V=E5lerenga and they =
survived, but they were hesitant in further renewing his contract and =
Lillestr=F8m showed no interest either. Diallo loves to play, but being =
without a team he was gradually dwindling in skills. He had gone home to =
Senegal, and this time they were preparing for the African Nations cup. =
He failed to make the team. Some weeks ago he was back to Norway, and =
still none of the two teams showed any sign of interest. That was the =
time Tampa Bay got into the picture.
Yus, Diallo is an interesting and flamboyant player, and when he gets to =
settle down in MLS, he will be a sight to watch. He had spiced up the =
game here with his dances . And he loves his "ndaga". We`ll miss him =
badly, especially at the naming ceremonies and cultural activities.=20
Regards,
Omar.
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Emne: Re: SV: Re: UEFA Champions League (basil, ebrima and all soccer =
enthusiasts)
>Omar, it seems as if we have many prospects coming up. Hopefully, they =
will all come back to represent The Gambia. Then we shall qualify for =
the WC. (laugh) I culled this info about Mamadou Diallo from Tampa's =
website. It seems as if he is highly regarded here:
>Quote
>With Tampa Bay: Guest player for Mutiny for 10-day stretch in early =
March ... Scored four of Mutiny's eight goals in 8-1 win over University =
of Tampa March 2, then collected Tampa Bay's only score on PK against =
Chicago Fire March 4 ... Four shots on goal versus Fire ... Suffered =
slightly sprained ankle early in second half of Fire exhibition and sat =
out remainder of match ... Mutiny's top goal scorer of spring.
>Unquote
>At this point, Tampa Bay is in second position in the Eastern Central =
Conference. Momadou has not scored yet but I look forward to watching =
him play.
>
>BTW, I thing the MLS is terrible. The final game between DC and LA =
seemed like a high school game between SAHS and GHS or something. Their =
games seem to be highly physical and lacking in skill. But what they =
lack in skill, the Americans make up with the effort they put in the =
game.
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Omar, Basil, Yus, Joe
Thanks for writing once again about soccer. As you may know, my team,
Arsenal, is playing tonight with Lens of France, in the semi final of the
other UEFA cup.
So PLEASE watch out for them tonight and expect some partying on Gambia L,
by tomorrow, God willing, that is if we win tonight.(laugh)
We are without the suspended Thierry Henry and our effective Captain Tony
Adams; but Dennis Bergkamp is fit and more importantly, the Nigeria Football
Association has now allowed Kanu to play for Arsenal tonight, before joining
the Nigerian Soccer Squad at the weekend, to play for his country, in the
World Cup qualifying rounds.
By the way, are you guys following the tragic developments in Turkey, in
relation to the Leeds United/Galatastary match? Two Leeds United supporters
were reportedly stabbed to death when a very serious violence erupted
between Leeds fans and Galatastary supporters.
The sad events in Turkey are dominating all the radio phone-in programmes
here as I write this piece, but, as usual, xenophobia and narrow nationalist
sentiments are evident in the remarks of most of the callers.
When will the world do away with tribalism, regionalism, xenophobia,
nepotism and all the rest of the "ism"?
Ebrima
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Thank you Kabir and Sheikh Tijan. To the Pa Matarr Touray family and the
Ceesay family, my heartfelt condolences. Allah is sufficient for us, an
excellent guardian, and we repose our trust in Allah. Surely we are Allah's
and to Allah we shall return. May Ya Haddy's soul rest in peace. Inna
lillahe ma akhaza wa lil lahe ma ata wa kullin indahu be ajalim musaman
faltasbir wal tahtasib.
Ya Soffie Ceesay
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Subject: [Fwd: Obituary]
Kabir,
Grateful forward on the list as i have been technically
taken out of
the
list due to some problems with the quantum server.
Thanks. Chi Jamma.
Bro Sheikh Tejan Nyang.
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It is with deep regret that i wish to announce the death of
Aji Haddy
ceesay of
Rankin Street. Ya Haddy was the mother to Dr Omar Touray
,Baks Touray
,Amat and
the rest of the Touray. Ya Haddy was a dear and caring
mother who
devoted all
her time in taking care of all the kids of Rankin Street and
the
nabourhood. Our
condolences to Omar, Baks and the rest of the family. May
her soul rest
in
perfect peace.
[log in to unmask] wrote:
>It is with deep regret that I announce the death of my dear
aunt, Aji
Ndey
>Saine of Mantel Street, Banjul and also wife of Koto Bamba
Njie of
New
>Orleans., Louisiana.
>
>Koto Bamba is currently visiting The Gambia.
>This sudden death occured yesterday, April 1 whilst they
were
performing
>Salat ul Maghreb.
>
>May Allah give her Jannah.
>
>Fatou Saine-Darbo
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Our Condolence to the Touray family. May his Soul Rest in Peace.
Malanding
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> Greetings:
> I have been asked to pass on this sad news to the list.
>
> Basirou Touray (aka Bass) died on Friday in Ohio. He had been battling a
> prolonged illness caused by a hole in his heart. He had been trying to get
> medical attention for quite a while but was unable to get the care he
needed
> due to a lack of funds.
>
> His relatives are asking for your financial assistance to send the body
back
> home.
>
> You may send your contributions to:
> P.O. Box 13405
> Silver Spring, MD 20911
> Contact: Momodou Camara (Cousin), Sam Camara
> Tel: 301-562-8890
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> May his soul rest in peace.
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To those in the New York area, Modou Camara (not the same one in Maryland)
is collecting contributions. You can reach him at 718/367-3097. Please
help out with whatever amount you can. Thank you -
Soffie
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Our Condolence to the Touray family. May his Soul Rest in
Peace.
Malanding
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> Greetings:
> I have been asked to pass on this sad news to the list.
>
> Basirou Touray (aka Bass) died on Friday in Ohio. He had
been battling a
> prolonged illness caused by a hole in his heart. He had
been trying to get
> medical attention for quite a while but was unable to get
the care he
needed
> due to a lack of funds.
>
> His relatives are asking for your financial assistance to
send the body
back
> home.
>
> You may send your contributions to:
> P.O. Box 13405
> Silver Spring, MD 20911
> Contact: Momodou Camara (Cousin), Sam Camara
> Tel: 301-562-8890
>
> May his soul rest in peace.
>
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To interested students
The requirements may be hard to meet but whats wrong with giving it a try?
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 09:52:34 -0700
> > From: Jennifer Fontes <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Paid Internship with the USGS ---USGS #239 - Reston, VA
> >
> >
> > Earth Science Internship
> > US Geological Survey
> > DEADLINE FOR APPLICATIONS: April 17, 2000
> > Contact: Jennifer Fontes
> > 179 South Street
> > Boston, MA 02111
> > Email: [log in to unmask] fax: 617-426-8159
> >
> > NORTHERN WISCONSIN GEOCHEMICAL BACKGROUND AND BASELINE
> > Project #239
> > Location: Reston, VA
> > Compensation: $22,613.76 per year, $10.872 per hour
> > Start date: June 1, 2000
> > Deadline: April 17, 2000
> > Duration: one year
> >
> > Project Description:
> > The Wisonsin Geochemical Background and Baseline Project is studying
> natural
> > geochemical variations in soils, stream sediments, and lake sediments in
> and
> > near the Chequamegon National Forest in northern Wisconsin. The study is
> > developing a geographic information system (GIS) of geochemical and
other
> > pertinent earth science data that can be used in a variety of
> environmental
> > and
> > land management applications. The project is also conducting research on
> the
> > interplay of factors that control the distribution of a variety of
> > environmental elements near the earth's surface. The work depends on
> advanced
> > applications of computer catrography, geostastics, and geochemical
> principles
> > to interpret a large amount of analytical data that is being collected.
> >
> > Objectives of the Internship:
> > The intern will contribute to the preparation and maintenance of digital
> > databases of the geologic and mineral deposit information. The intern
will
> be
> > trained in aspects of GIS and statistics and will be expected to assist
in
> > developing GIS layers from the digital data and statistical
interpretation
> of
> > data. The intern will also be trained in some basic laboratory
procedures
> used
> > to prepare rock samples for petrographic and geochemical analysis.
> >
> > Specific Tasks:
> > 1. Maintenance of digital databases, including sorting of records,
merging
> of
> > records, and entering and retrieving data. Most work will involve EXCEL
or
> > similar spreadsheets.
> > 2. Basic GIS manipulation of databases. Training will be provided as
> needed in
> > Arc View and ARC/INFO GIS programs. Digital maps will be developed and
> edited
> > using these programs. Additional training will be provided for scanning
> and
> > digitizing information.
> > 3. Laboratory preparation of rock samples for geochemical and thin
section
> > analyses.
> > 4. Possibility of participation as a field assistant for fieldwork, most
> > likely
> > in Minnesota and/or Wisconsin.
> >
> > Work Experience Benefit(s) to Intern:
> > The intern will receive a broad range of experiences and work with a
> diverse
> > group of USGS collaborators. The intern will be trained and develop
skills
> in
> > the preparation of digital datasets, GIS applications, statistics, and
> other
> > common computer software packages that are useful for storing and
> displaying
> > technical and scientific data. The intern will improve basic laboratory
> > skills.
> >
> >
> > Specific Qualifications Required:
> > Bachelors Degree from a US college or university or US citizen that
> studied
> > abroad.
> > Degree must be in environmental sciences, hydrology, geology or closely
> > related
> > subject.
> > Able to work 40 hours per week.
> > Candidate must be a recent graduate of 12 months or less.
> > International students must be eligible to work in the US for up to two
> years
> > without sponsorship from the USGS or ECO.
> > The intern must have developed computer skills. Although experience with
> the
> > specific software is not necessary, the intern must know how to use one
of
> the
> > major spreadsheet or database programs. The intern must be comfortable
> working
> > with computers and in entering and manipulating data in spreadsheets and
> > databases. The intern must have the ability to quickly learn and deal
with
> new
> > software. Although not required, experience with ArcView and/or ArcInfo
> > will be
> > a positive selection criterion.
> > The intern must have the ability to research information in the library
> with
> > relatively little supervision.
> >
> >
> > DIVERSITY INITIATIVE: If you are part of an underrepresented group,
please
> > state your interest in ECO's Diversity Initiative by typing or printing
in
> the
> > upper right hand corner of the first page of your resume the following:
> > DIVERSITY INITIATIVE. Be sure this is included before you send your
> resume.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jennifer Fontes
> > Internship Program Coordinator
> > Environmental Careers Organization
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My condolences to Baks Touray and the rest of the family. May Aji Haddy's
soul rest in perfect peace, amd may Allah (SWT) grant her a place in Jannah.
Jabou Joh
Thank you Kabir and Sheikh Tijan. To the Pa Matarr Touray family and the
Ceesay family, my heartfelt condolences. Allah is sufficient for us, an
excellent guardian, and we repose our trust in Allah. Surely we are Allah's
and to Allah we shall return. May Ya Haddy's soul rest in peace. Inna
lillahe ma akhaza wa lil lahe ma ata wa kullin indahu be ajalim musaman
faltasbir wal tahtasib.
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Subject: Re: GAMBIA ORG CONFERENCE PAPER NR 1
Fatou,
The conflicting issues confronting OGIS in Sweden is identical to
Those of Gambian organizations in the USA, and else where
Including back home.Your <http://home.Your> boldness in posting it on this
platform
Is progressive considering Gambians do not usually share their
Shortcomings they would rather hide it under the pretext of something
Or someway.
I share your suggestions to possible solutions, first and foremost
We need attitudinal change, which accounts for most of our ineffectiveness
Organizational wise and this propagates itself to the current situation on the
Ground at home; be it in political and religious circles.
Beran
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Subject: GAMBIA ORG CONFERENCE PAPER NR 1
THIS PAPER WAS PRESENTED BY BROTHER BUHARRY AT THE GAMBIAN
ORGANISATION
CONFERENCE IN STOCKHOLM SWEDEN, SUNDAY 2 APRIL 2000.FROM THE
ELECTORAL
COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU.
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The situation of Gambians in Sweden has since the
arrival of
the first Gambians in the country not been an enviable one. This
is due to
a variety of factors. Factors such as tribalism, sectionalism,
disunity,
materialism, laze, greed, illiteracy etc. can be cited to have
been and
continue to be strong impediments to Gambians' advancement
within the
Swedish set-up. The attendant implication has been the
stagnation of
Gambians within the society compared to other immigrant groups.
To address
these issues and remedy the plight of Gambians, the Organization
of
Gambians in Sweden (OGIS) was formed. The organization however
fell victim
to the above vices plus mismanagement, political infighting,
embezzlement
etc. from its very inception. This has rendered it incapable of
achieving
the goals it was set up to achieve.
Successive administrations have tried to rid the
organization
of the vices that have kept it from realising its aims as
envisioned by its
founders. The results of these attempts have however not been
impressive
leading to the current attempt to find ways of building a
modern, effective
and independent organization to address the concerns of the
Gambian
community. Before jumping to the issue of trying to build such
an
organization, an analysis of some of the problems that have
plagued the
OGIS since its inception needs to be carried out.
One of the major problems that the organization has
had deals
with the lack of proper financial and accounting mechanisms to
handle the
monetary and other assets of the organization. There is no
standard
accounting system for the organization and every administration
comes with
its own accounting system making it difficult for successive
administrations to grasp the organization's financial condition.
This is
coupled with the poor or non-existent system of receipt
collection and
organization. This has resulted in the loss of thousands and
some even
estimate hundreds of thousands of Kronor.
Another problem that has plagued the OGIS is
impulsiveness and
lack of planning. Activities with heavy financial implications
are
undertaken without proper research and planning resulting in
heavy losses
for the organization. These activities have ranged from poorly
planned
cultural events to ineffective seminars to disastrous children's
activities
with the attendant implications of not only monetary loss but
the erosion
of the organization's credibility in the eyes of those whose
interests it
is supposed to serve.
The third problem that has plagued the OGIS is the
nonchalant
attitude of its members towards the provisions of its
Constitution, the
organization's guiding document. The Constitution defines the
procedures to
be adhered to when dealing with various issues related to the
organization
but these are nearly always ignored. This has resulted in many
problems for
the organization. These problems have included arguments,
divisions, legal
wrangling etc. resulting in a waste of the organization's time
and
resources.
The fourth problem that the OGIS has is its lack of
credibility
in the eyes of the Gambian community. This is a major problem as
it has
resulted in a steep decline in membership to the organization.
One of the
reasons for the organization's lack of trustworthiness is the
lack of
effective management especially in the financial realm. The poor
management
of the financial aspects of the organization has resulted in
accusation
upon accusation of financial misconduct thus undermining the
OGIS' stature
in the Gambian community.
Another of the OGIS' problems is the lack of proper
meeting
procedures. This on the surface does not seem to be a major
problem but a
closer investigation will reveal that it is indeed a very
serious problem.
Poor handling of meetings resulting in disruptions, personal
attacks etc.
makes it very difficult for the OGIS to address the real issues
crucial to
its effective functioning as an organization.
How can the OGIS be transformed into a modern,
effective and
independent organization that will be able to identify and
effectively deal
with the burning problems of the Gambian community? The first
step should
be to make a comprehensive identification and analysis of the
organization's problems. Some of the issues identified above are
important
elements of the overall hindrances to the effectiveness of OGIS
as an
entity but are by no means the only hindrances. Systematically
identifying
and analysing the impediments to the organization's success is a
very
important step and has to be carried out with meticulousness.
After an
analysis has been done, ways of incorporating methods to counter
them in
the future have to be woven into the organizational fabric of
the OGIS.
This in short, amounts to change management, which requires that
an
assessment of the required change is made and the mechanisms
required to
manage it are created.
The second step should be to revamp the
organization's
accounting mechanism. A standard accounting system should be
adopted and
all Treasurers should before being elected certify that they
understand and
are able to work with the system. Efforts should be made to
acquire a
computerised accounting system to ease the work. As the aim is
to create a
modern organization, the previous backward accounting system of
making
entries on pieces of paper and plastic bags, which cannot be
found when
needed, should be abandoned. A requirement that all expenses are
requested
using a request form and that receipts must be provided as a
rule for all
expenditures should be implemented. This will not only improve
the
organization's accounting system but it will also help restore
its
credibility in the Gambian community.
A Financial Committee should be formed. The role of
this
committee will be to further strengthen the financial
regulations and
methods of the organization by acting as a buffer between the
various
committees and the Treasurer. All expenditure requests will be
handled by
the committee and approved before being forwarded to the
Treasurer for
dispensation. The committee will look at cheaper alternatives
and make
suggestions regarding the request before authorising the
Treasurer to
provide the funds. The committee will be provided with copies of
all
receipts so that it can keep a separate accounting profile that
can be
helpful to the Auditor when the Treasurer is being audited.
To avoid the impulsive and oftentimes disastrous
spending of
the organization's funds, the organization's overall activities
should be
determined and budgeted for on a yearly basis. This will ensure
that all
activities are strategically planned and looked into.
Strategically
planning the activities of the organization will ensure that
their goals
are determined, current and future situations are analysed and
that a
strategic plan is produced. It will also give the Financial
Committee time
to look at alternative prices and come up with suggestions. This
way,
activities that are poorly planned will be avoided.
A Legal Adviser conversant with the Constitution
should be
elected. It will be the Legal Adviser's responsibility to ensure
that all
activities carried out under the aegis of the organization are
in line with
the provisions of the Constitution. The Legal Adviser will also
ensure that
the inner workings of the Executive Committee conform to the
rules
established by the Constitution.
The fifth step should be to create a Public
Relations (PR)
organ whose responsibility will be to recover the credibility of
the
organization. The PR organ can be incorporated into the existing
committees
or created as a separate entity. The PR organ should look at
ways of
reviving the defunct newsletter, look into the possibility of
creating a
homepage for the organization where all general, financial and
other
information will be readily available to all members and the
general
public. The PR organ should also work together with the other
committees to
create activities to promote the organization and enhance its
stature in
the Gambian community.
The organization should also develop meeting
procedures. These
procedures should be in the form of a booklet that will be made
available
to all members so that they can behave properly during meetings
to ensure
the effective use of time. The procedures should determine the
role of the
chair and recorders, the floor etc. and identify group problem
solving
techniques to help reach effective decisions.
To create an independent organization, the OGIS
should not
allow itself to be manipulated by organizations and individuals
whose
interests are antithetical to those of its own. The Executive
Committee
should ensure that the interests of the OGIS are paramount and
that any
attempt to thwart the aspirations of the organization and its
members
should be vehemently fought.
The OGIS as has been seen has a myriad of problems
that have
hindered it from effectively tackling the issues it was created
to tackle.
In order for it to function as intended, these problems have to
be
identified and remedied and proper procedures and mechanisms put
into
place. Instituting new modus operandi based on the need to
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If at any rate, doubt is still expressed about how much Capitalism [I'm very
reluctant in using the term Capitalism cos the Left has turned it into a term
of abuse and at best obscures the core of modern Liberal economics of free
enterprise] can re-invent itself to be in sync with historical realities,
then Judge Jackson's ruling on the Microsoft anti-trust legal tussle should
now seal that argument. That the worlds largest company together with the
world's richest man can be so humbled by the son of a POSTMAN, Joel Klein,
from the poor neighbourhoods of Queens New York, in itself lays asunder the
monstrous charge that free enterprise is all about the rich and mighty.
From the deconstruction of Rockefeller's Standard Oil to IBM's humbling
ironically by Microsoft itself to the break up of AT&T, the charge cut-throat
competition in a free market economy would inevitably lead to monolithic
monopolies is becoming as bogus as the monstrous charge of the great man
himself Karl Heinrich Marx and Marxologists that Capitalism contained seeds
of it's own self destruction or Lenin's immortal assertion that Capitalism
would hand him the ropes he [Socialists] would eventually hung it with. The
Microsoft ruling has quashed that argument forever. Not only in a free market
are monolithic monopolies becoming a misnomer, but they are becoming
farfetched for anyone industrialists or free marketeer who dreams of market
dominance and eventually monopolising a particular market. This is because
genuine competition like a honey pot draws more players to it once it is
proven beyond reasonable doubt there is something worth to be played for. And
the beauty about it is that no player worth it's salt could afford to rest on
it's laurels with complacency; for there are countless others out there
looking from the outside checking for vulnerabilities that would make them
admissible in a particular market as Microsoft is learning much to it's
chagrin. If competition as such doesn't work, there are always anti-trust
laws which eventually would regulate bullies and those who foul of the
competition laws. The Microsoft ruling re-inforces that argument. And at the
end of the day, it is consumers who will win overall and enjoy from
competition as such. The much anticipated deconstruction of Microsoft will
release to other players vital human resources and so called intellectual
property that will eventually make the software and PC market more dynamic
and multi-faceted than it currently is.
On Monday 3rd. April 2000, Judge Jackson's Microsoft ruling was a
vindication for Capitalism and Classical Liberal Economists that free
enterprise properly constituted and unleashed, doesn't promise a tidy and
utopian paternalist outlook but an untidy, flexible, rewarding, more dynamic,
enterprising and creative harnessing of individual and social talent and by
extension the most effective means of poverty eradication ever envisaged. I
believe I can afford the determinism.
What a difference a day makes. What a difference Monday 3rd. April 2000
will certainly make in economic history!! On that day Capitalism won!!
Hamjatta Kanteh
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I extend my sympathies to Bax, Omar , the Touray
family and friends. Thanks to Kabir and Sheikh Tejan
for informing us of the sad news.
Sidi Sanneh
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> My condolences to Baks Touray and the rest of the
> family. May Aji Haddy's
> soul rest in perfect peace, amd may Allah (SWT)
> grant her a place in Jannah.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> Thank you Kabir and Sheikh Tijan. To the Pa Matarr
> Touray family and the
> Ceesay family, my heartfelt condolences. Allah is
> sufficient for us, an
> excellent guardian, and we repose our trust in
> Allah. Surely we are Allah's
> and to Allah we shall return. May Ya Haddy's soul
> rest in peace. Inna
> lillahe ma akhaza wa lil lahe ma ata wa kullin
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My sympathy to Pa Matarr, Bax, Omar,and the entire Touray
Family. May her soul rest in peace ameen.
Beran
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I extend my sympathies to Bax, Omar , the Touray
family and friends. Thanks to Kabir and Sheikh Tejan
for informing us of the sad news.
Sidi Sanneh
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--- Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> My condolences to Baks Touray and the rest of the
> family. May Aji Haddy's
> soul rest in perfect peace, amd may Allah (SWT)
> grant her a place in Jannah.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> Thank you Kabir and Sheikh Tijan. To the Pa Matarr
> Touray family and the
> Ceesay family, my heartfelt condolences. Allah is
> sufficient for us, an
> excellent guardian, and we repose our trust in
> Allah. Surely we are Allah's
> and to Allah we shall return. May Ya Haddy's soul
> rest in peace. Inna
> lillahe ma akhaza wa lil lahe ma ata wa kullin
> indahu be ajalim musaman
> faltasbir wal tahtasib.
>
> Ya Soffie Ceesay
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soul rest in peace. Do you happen to know the contact person in Ohio?<BR>
If you do, could you provide me with their number. I will extend the <BR>
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in the Junior and Senior squads. He is also a younger brother to the <BR>
late Saul Samba. May his soul rest in peace. I have yet not seen <BR>
the kid in action, but I bet you he is a replica of "Piti Baba" <BR>
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in the Junior and Senior squads. He is also a younger brother to the <BR>
late Saul Samba. May his soul rest in peace. I have not yet seen <BR>
the kid in action, but I bet you he is a replica of "Piti Baba" <BR>
(Saul). I'm happy for both the rising star and Ali Koro. This will <BR>
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in the Junior and Senior squads. He is also a younger brother to the <BR>
late Saul Samba. May his soul rest in peace. I have not yet seen <BR>
the kid in action, but I bet you he is a replica of "Piti Baba" <BR>
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My heartfelt sympathy to Bax Touray, Omar and Pa Matarr.
Abdoulaye Saine
sidi sanneh wrote:
>
> I extend my sympathies to Bax, Omar , the Touray
> family and friends. Thanks to Kabir and Sheikh Tejan
> for informing us of the sad news.
> Sidi Sanneh
> (Helsinki)
>
> --- Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > My condolences to Baks Touray and the rest of the
> > family. May Aji Haddy's
> > soul rest in perfect peace, amd may Allah (SWT)
> > grant her a place in Jannah.
> >
> > Jabou Joh
> >
> > Thank you Kabir and Sheikh Tijan. To the Pa Matarr
> > Touray family and the
> > Ceesay family, my heartfelt condolences. Allah is
> > sufficient for us, an
> > excellent guardian, and we repose our trust in
> > Allah. Surely we are Allah's
> > and to Allah we shall return. May Ya Haddy's soul
> > rest in peace. Inna
> > lillahe ma akhaza wa lil lahe ma ata wa kullin
> > indahu be ajalim musaman
> > faltasbir wal tahtasib.
> >
> > Ya Soffie Ceesay
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ANC Commemorates Execution Of Mahlangu
April 6, 2000=20
CAPE TOWN, South Africa (PANA) - The African National Congress on =
Thursday marked the 21st anniversary of the execution of Solomon =
Mahlangu by the apartheid regime.
On 2 March 1978, Mahlangu was sentenced to death for his role in trying =
to topple the apartheid system. He pleaded not guilty to the crimes he =
was charged with.
Since his arrest in June 1977, he was severely tortured and brutally =
assaulted in prison. He was not allowed to be seen by any member of the =
community including his lawyers.
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attorneys first heard of his court appearance after reading a report =
about it in the press.
On 6 April 1979, the 23-year-old Mkhonto We Sizwe cadre faced the =
gallows, raised his hand in the ANC salute, and died a hero for millions =
of South Africans.
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fruits of freedom. Tell my people that I love them. They must continue =
to fight."
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President Thabo Mbeki, we once more lower our flags and salute our =
fallen comrade, our hero.
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sympathies and best wishes.
"In furtherance of the call to make the 21st century the African =
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Congratulations Alieu. Wish you well in your career.
Malanding
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> Hi Folks,
>
> My pleasure to share with all of you the abstract of my just completed MA
> Thesis in Political Science.
>
> The Title of the Thesis is: CONFLICT MANAGEMENT AND RESOLUTION IN WEST
> AFRICA: THE CASE OF ECOMOG IN LIBERIA.
>
> Please see the attached document.
>
> Cheers
>
> Alieu
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April 6, 2000=20
CAPE TOWN, South Africa (PANA) - Apart from former president Nelson =
Mandela, the white media portray South Africa's black leadership as =
corrupt, anti-democratic, dictatorial and contemptuous of the =
population.
This scathing attack was made by the ruling African National Congress in =
its submission to the Human Rights Commission (HRC) on Wednesday.
The HRC, which is conducting a major enquiry into racism in the media, =
was told by Public Enterprises Minister Jeff Radebe, that the country's =
white media measured Mandela's success because what he said and did was =
consistent with what they considered as necessary to allay white fears.
He said white editors and journalists regarded Mandela as an exception =
to the country's ruling black elite. Radebe accused the white media of =
distorting the facts to propagate their stereotype of black South =
Africans.
Radebe said a concerted effort must be made to de-racialise the =
ownership, management and editorial control of media organisations in =
the country.
"A serious effort must be made to convince everybody working in the =
media that they have a responsibility to contribute what they can to the =
achievement of the constitutional objective of the creation of a =
non-racial society," he said.
The South African Communist Party, in its submission, agreed that there =
could be no freedom of speech under the present media ownership in South =
Africa.
The SACP's general secretary, Blade Nzimande, described the South =
African media as a racial oligarchy serving wealthy white interests. He =
accused white editors of using the needs of the market as an excuse to =
deny or defuse issues of black people, women and the black working class =
in their publications.
The Democratic Party, the country's official opposition party, on =
Thursday reacted angrily to the latest submissions, saying the ANC is in =
an advanced state of denial and self- delusion.
"The HRC now has a very big problem on its hands. It cannot preach race =
theory to the media as it had intended when the government is using the =
HRC as a platform for racist theory which sounds remarkably like the =
accusations of subliminal racism which pre-empted the misrepresentation =
of ascertainable facts and if it does not refute the proposition that =
former President Mandela has an Uncle Tom image.
"The HRC will lose all credibility if it does not challenge the ANC's =
image," said DP spokesman Dene Smuts.
The HRC, which is responsible for ensuring that the country's =
constitution is upheld, announced last year that it would conduct an =
inquiry into racism in the media, after receiving complaints from black =
lawyers' and accountants' associations alleging racial bias in stories =
published in South Africa.
Its final report is expected to be released in September.=20
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white=20
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issues=20
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publications.
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Thursday=20
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advanced=20
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race=20
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HRC as a=20
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of=20
subliminal racism which pre-empted the misrepresentation of =
ascertainable facts=20
and if it does not refute the proposition that former President Mandela =
has an=20
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<P>"The HRC will lose all credibility if it does not challenge the =
ANC's =20
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constitution is=20
upheld, announced last year that it would conduct an inquiry into racism =
in the=20
media, after receiving complaints from black lawyers' and accountants'=20
associations alleging racial bias in stories published in South Africa.
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Greetings:
Joe, I do not know the answer to your question. But I'll call Oumie Joof who
asked me to post the info, for any contacts in Ohio.
BTW did you get my message I forwarded to you from Vero on the Health
Committee issue?
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Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 7:41 PM
Subject: Why Challenge the IMF and World Bank?
Institute for Public Accuracy
915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045
(202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * [log in to unmask]
___________________________________________________
Thursday, April 6, 2000
Memo #1 to Media: From Seattle to D.C.
Why Challenge the IMF and World Bank?
With protests planned in mid-April for Washington, D.C., when the World
Bank and the International Monetary Fund meet in the nation's capital, =
the
following analysts are now available for interviews about those
institutions:
DENNIS BRUTUS, [log in to unmask], http://www.50years.org
Now professor emeritus of Africana Studies at the University of =
Pittsburgh,
Brutus was a political prisoner with Nelson Mandela. A member of Jubilee
2000 South Africa, Brutus said today: "The record of both the World Bank =
and
IMF over a period of more than 50 years shows that they serve the =
interests
of the corporations rather than of people. Their policies have led to
increased poverty and misery in much of the developing world. It is time =
to
stop these policies. Seattle represented a tremendous surge for change =
in
the world which will be further developed in Washington. What we seek is =
a
new, just, equitable world in which people are more important than =
profits."
MEREDETH TURSHEN, [log in to unmask]
Author of "Privatizing Health Services in Africa" and a professor of =
policy
and planning at Rutgers University, Turshen said today: "The IMF and the
World Bank have forced, as conditions of badly needed loans, many =
African
countries to dismantle their public health services. One consequence of =
this
is the increased number of reported AIDS cases in Africa. AIDS in Africa =
is
rarely diagnosed with an HIV test -- they can't afford it. Rather, it's
diagnosed by symptoms, so many of the 'AIDS' cases are actually TB and =
other
diseases that are easily preventable and treatable if they had minimal
health facilities. Attributing the deaths to 'AIDS' covers for the
culpability of the West in the deteriorating health conditions in Africa =
and
implies that there's little to be done except get Africans to use =
condoms,
which dovetails with the World Bank's obsession with population control; =
it
also plays to sexual stereotypes. The IMF has also ordered currency
devaluations which have severely curtailed drug imports."
JEFFREY WINTERS, [log in to unmask]
Co-editor of the upcoming book "Re-inventing the World Bank" and =
associate
professor of political economy at Northwestern University, Winters said
today: "The World Bank's public relations budget is roughly five times =
its
budget for project auditing and supervision. One consequence of this is =
the
massive problem of Criminal Debt, that portion of a country's official
foreign debt that is stolen by government officials. For many countries =
in
the Third World, this is between 25 to 50 percent of the money loaned -- =
for
Indonesia, it's a third or $10 billion. The population has to pay back =
100
percent plus interest. The World Bank's charter requires that it ensure =
that
the monies it lends are used for their intended purpose -- but since its
inception the Bank has failed to do this, with the losses accruing to =
poor
people across the developing world."
For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy:
Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 06, 2000 7:41 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Why Challenge the IMF and World Bank?</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Institute for Public Accuracy<BR>915 National Press =
Building,=20
Washington, D.C. 20045<BR>(202) 347-0020 * <A=20
href=3D"http://www.accuracy.org">http://www.accuracy.org</A> * <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A><BR>________________=
___________________________________<BR><BR>Thursday,=20
April 6, 2000<BR><BR>Memo #1 to Media: From Seattle to D.C.<BR>Why =
Challenge the=20
IMF and World Bank?<BR><BR>With protests planned in mid-April for =
Washington,=20
D.C., when the World<BR>Bank and the International Monetary Fund meet in =
the=20
nation's capital, the<BR>following analysts are now available for =
interviews=20
about those<BR>institutions:<BR><BR>DENNIS BRUTUS, <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>, <A=20
href=3D"http://www.50years.org">http://www.50years.org</A><BR>Now =
professor=20
emeritus of Africana Studies at the University of Pittsburgh,<BR>Brutus =
was a=20
political prisoner with Nelson Mandela. A member of Jubilee<BR>2000 =
South=20
Africa, Brutus said today: "The record of both the World Bank and<BR>IMF =
over a=20
period of more than 50 years shows that they serve the interests<BR>of =
the=20
corporations rather than of people. Their policies have led =
to<BR>increased=20
poverty and misery in much of the developing world. It is time =
to<BR>stop these=20
policies. Seattle represented a tremendous surge for change in<BR>the =
world=20
which will be further developed in Washington. What we seek is a<BR>new, =
just,=20
equitable world in which people are more important than=20
profits."<BR><BR>MEREDETH TURSHEN, <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A><BR>Au=
thor of=20
"Privatizing Health Services in Africa" and a professor of policy<BR>and =
planning at Rutgers University, Turshen said today: "The IMF and =
the<BR>World=20
Bank have forced, as conditions of badly needed loans, many =
African<BR>countries=20
to dismantle their public health services. One consequence of this<BR>is =
the=20
increased number of reported AIDS cases in Africa. AIDS in Africa =
is<BR>rarely=20
diagnosed with an HIV test -- they can't afford it. Rather, =
it's<BR>diagnosed by=20
symptoms, so many of the 'AIDS' cases are actually TB and =
other<BR>diseases that=20
are easily preventable and treatable if they had minimal<BR>health =
facilities.=20
Attributing the deaths to 'AIDS' covers for the<BR>culpability of the =
West in=20
the deteriorating health conditions in Africa and<BR>implies that =
there's little=20
to be done except get Africans to use condoms,<BR>which dovetails with =
the World=20
Bank's obsession with population control; it<BR>also plays to sexual=20
stereotypes. The IMF has also ordered currency<BR>devaluations which =
have=20
severely curtailed drug imports."<BR><BR>JEFFREY WINTERS, <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A><BR>Co-edito=
r of the=20
upcoming book "Re-inventing the World Bank" and associate<BR>professor =
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political economy at Northwestern University, Winters said<BR>today: =
"The World=20
Bank's public relations budget is roughly five times its<BR>budget for =
project=20
auditing and supervision. One consequence of this is the<BR>massive =
problem of=20
Criminal Debt, that portion of a country's official<BR>foreign debt that =
is=20
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World, this=20
is between 25 to 50 percent of the money loaned -- for<BR>Indonesia, =
it's a=20
third or $10 billion. The population has to pay back 100<BR>percent plus =
interest. The World Bank's charter requires that it ensure that<BR>the =
monies it=20
lends are used for their intended purpose -- but since its<BR>inception =
the Bank=20
has failed to do this, with the losses accruing to poor<BR>people across =
the=20
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have the list of the volunteers to the committee. If that's the <BR>
case could you please mail me a copy. She suggested that I <BR>
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Yahya, I am not disputing the essence or beauty of language. The gift of gab, especially the ability to put it on paper, is one of the greatest attributes of man. The inflections, intones, it's ability to transmit a message to many, and, finally the fact that it describes things that none of our other "attributes" are able to describe so aptly, makes language a thing of beauty and wonder.
But my point was not an exercise in the beauty or essence of language, but, rather, it questioned the logic of posting in other languages on the L. The only reason I raised my objection is simply because, like it or not, English is our official medium of communication on the L.. Similarly, a Bantaba is a place where people come together and have a discussion in a common language. And it is usually characterized by rapid fire questions and answers, no place for someone that cannot or is not willing to understand the medium of communication. An attempt to do anything else but to conform to the language that is being used is a futile exercise in my opinion.
One could argue that there are a few others who are not fluent in the language and they need to be catered to. These people understand a bit of English, otherwise they would not be part of the L. But what about the majority of us who would like to read about a topic regarding the plight of our African brothers in Mauritania or police brutality towards Gambians in Sweden, but cannot do so because it is in a language that we are unable to comprehend? For this reason, I suggested a compromise whereby, along with every post in a foreign language, there should be an accompanying translation in English. This would serve a dual purpose. First, it would help those who are not so fluent in our official medium of communication to learn English and to therefore be better equipped to actively participate in this Bantaba in the future. Also, it would allow the majority of us to understand the content of French posts etc.
Since my initial response to Fatou's post, I have modified my stance. Hopefully, I am not being unreasonable.
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Subject: Re: Senegal .WARNING! This msg is rated FRENCH
I agree with Yus. Am fluent in French but for the sake of others maybe a
warning would be more polite. No need to show off. Imaging if we all were
to speak wolof, mandinka, fula,jola and God knows what else on this List.
English is the language of choice. Use a translator. Remember the posting
BELOW?. It was in English! Yahya can you comprende this:
Yahya, je ne conteste pas l'essence ou la beauté du langage. Le cadeau de l'encoche,
particulièrement la capacité de le mettre sur le papier, est un des plus grands attributs
de l'homme. Les inflexions, intones, il est capacité de transmettre un message à
beaucoup, et, finalement le fait qu'il décrit les choses qu'aucun de nos autres " attributs
" ne peut décrire tellement convenablement, fait à langage une chose de la beauté et de
la merveille.
Mais mon point n'était pas un exercice dans la beauté ou l'essence du langage, mais,
plutôt, lui a remis en cause la logique de la signalisation dans d'autres langages sur le
L. La seule raison que j'ai formulé mon objection est simplement parce que, comme lui
ou pas, l'anglais est notre support officiel de transmission sur le L.. de même, un
Bantaba est un endroit où les gens viennent ensemble et ont une discussion dans un
langage commun. Et elle habituellement se charactérise par les questions du feu et les
réponses rapides, aucun endroit pour quelqu'un qui ne peut pas ou n'est pas disposée
de comprendre le support de transmission. Une tentative de faire toute autre chose
mais de se conformer au langage qui est nous
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Alieu,
I join others in congratulating you and wishing you
success in your future undertaking.
sidi sanneh
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> Congratulations Alieu. Wish you well in your career.
>
> Malanding
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 1:04 AM
> Subject: Conflict in Africa!!!
>
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > My pleasure to share with all of you the abstract
> of my just completed MA
> > Thesis in Political Science.
> >
> > The Title of the Thesis is: CONFLICT MANAGEMENT
> AND RESOLUTION IN WEST
> > AFRICA: THE CASE OF ECOMOG IN LIBERIA.
> >
> > Please see the attached document.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Alieu
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Subject: Sv: Re: Gambian Dies in Ohio!
(To Allah we belong and to Him is our ultimate return).
My condolence goes to all the entire family and friends.
May his Soul Rest in Perfect Peace......
May Allah Shower him with His Mercy.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
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> Our Condolence to the Touray family. May his Soul Rest in Peace.
>
> Malanding
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "latjor ndow" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 6:14 PM
> Subject: Gambian Dies in Ohio!
>
>
> > Greetings:
> > I have been asked to pass on this sad news to the list.
> >
> > Basirou Touray (aka Bass) died on Friday in Ohio. He had been battling a
> > prolonged illness caused by a hole in his heart. He had been trying to
get
> > medical attention for quite a while but was unable to get the care he
> needed
> > due to a lack of funds.
> >
> > His relatives are asking for your financial assistance to send the body
> back
> > home.
> >
> > You may send your contributions to:
> > P.O. Box 13405
> > Silver Spring, MD 20911
> > Contact: Momodou Camara (Cousin), Sam Camara
> > Tel: 301-562-8890
> >
> > May his soul rest in peace.
> >
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(To Allah we belong and to Him is our ultimate return)
My condolence goes to the entire family,friends and relatives.
May her Soul Rest in Perfect Peace
May Allah Shower her with His Mercy
We ask for recompense us for our affliction and replace it for us with
something better.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
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> Thank you Kabir and Sheikh Tijan. To the Pa Matarr Touray family and the
> Ceesay family, my heartfelt condolences. Allah is sufficient for us, an
> excellent guardian, and we repose our trust in Allah. Surely we are
Allah's
> and to Allah we shall return. May Ya Haddy's soul rest in peace. Inna
> lillahe ma akhaza wa lil lahe ma ata wa kullin indahu be ajalim musaman
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> Rankin Street. Ya Haddy was the mother to Dr Omar Touray
> ,Baks Touray
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> mother who
> devoted all
> her time in taking care of all the kids of Rankin Street
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> >Koto Bamba is currently visiting The Gambia.
> >This sudden death occured yesterday, April 1 whilst
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Sharif Sentenced To Life in Prison
Thursday April 6
By ZAHID HUSSAIN, Associated Press Writer
KARACHI, Pakistan (AP) - Pakistan's former prime minister was sentenced to
life in prison but escaped the death penalty Thursday, almost six months
after he unsuccessfully tried to fight off a coup by blocking the army
chief's plane from landing in Pakistan.
An anti-terrorist court convicted Nawaz Sharif of hijacking and terrorism
for the events of Oct. 12, when he refused to let a commercial airliner
carrying Gen. Pervez Musharraf land in the southern city of Karachi. The
army deposed Sharif that day, and Pakistan's new army rulers brought charges
against the ousted leader.
The court acquitted Sharif of two charges - attempted murder and kidnapping.
Six co-defendants, including Sharif's younger brother, were acquitted on all
counts.
Sharif denied all the charges. Both sides said they would appeal.
Sharif's relatives shouted and wept as the verdict was read, and several
protesters scuffled with police outside the courtroom. But the sentencing
did not inspire much protest among Pakistanis, many of whom had grown
frustrated with Sharif's corruption-riddled regime and had not objected to
the ouster of his elected government.
``I think God punished Nawaz Sharif for his crimes and people know that,''
Mohammed Asghar said as he bought a newspaper supplement announcing the
decision in Sharif's hometown, Lahore. ``This is the city of Nawaz Sharif
and look around. No one is protesting.''
Sharif was given a life sentence on each count, with the sentences to run
concurrently. In Pakistan a life sentence is 25 years, and there is a chance
for earlier parole.
The judge also ordered Sharif's property confiscated. In addition, he is to
pay $37,000 compensation to the passengers and crew of the Pakistan
International Airlines aircraft and $18,500 in fines.
As the verdict and sentence were announced, Sharif stood and looked grim.
His relatives, who had been reading the Koran, jumped up and shouted: ``Long
live Nawaz Sharif!'' Several women wept and others beat their chests.
``It is a personal vendetta,'' said Sharif's wife, Khulsoom, accusing the
army chief of targeting her husband. ``Nawaz Sharif's morale is high. I
believe God will help us.''
The verdicts followed a more than two-month-long trial that drew criticism
from some observers. Sharif was prevented from making a public statement at
the trial, and one of his lawyers was gunned down last month. Any link
between the killing and the trial remains unproven.
Javed Jabbar, a Musharraf adviser, called the trial fair.
``This bizarre act needed this kind of special trial. This trial would have
been held with any person who would have done this kind of thing,'' Jabbar
said.
Britain, though, said it was ``disturbed'' by parts of the proceedings. And
the head of the Commonwealth said he was ``dismayed by the severity of the
sentence.''
``This was a trial conducted against an elected prime minister,
unconstitutionally overthrown, under a regime whose legitimacy has not been
recognized by the Commonwealth,'' Secretary-General Don McKinnon said. ``The
credibility of the Pakistani regime in the eyes of the world will not be
enhanced by this judgment.''
Four activists of Sharif's Pakistan Muslim League party tried to demonstrate
outside the courthouse and were arrested, eyewitnesses said. They screamed
anti-army slogans and declared Sharif their prime minister as they were
being led away by police.
Sharif, 51, was arrested during the coup. Authorities said he tried to kill
Musharraf by not letting his plane land.
The plane was allowed to touch down after the army gained control, but by
then it had barely seven minutes of fuel left. There were 198 people aboard,
including 60 children from American schools in Pakistan, attended by
children of U.S. diplomats.
The prosecution argued for the death penalty, saying the anti-terrorist
courts - set up by Sharif's administration to hand out quick justice - are
required by law to give the maximum punishment for any conviction. But Judge
Rehmetullah Hussein Jaffri said Sharif committed his offense in the heat of
the moment and the maximum punishment should be reserved for worse cases.
During a five-hour visit to Pakistan on March 25, President Clinton asked
Musharraf to spare Sharif's life. Musharraf said the decision was up to the
courts. The Clinton administration also has urged Musharraf to move toward
democracy by setting a date for elections, but Musharraf has said reform is
needed before new elections can be held.
Sharif was elected in 1997 with a two-thirds majority, but his government
quickly became embroiled in controversy. He eventually dismissed the Supreme
Court's chief justice, prompting the president to resign.
``He was a bad ruler,'' said Sheikh Aftab, 24, who was planning to celebrate
the conviction. ``He was corrupt and amassed wealth for himself and his
family instead of doing something for the poor.''
Officials of Sharif's party said they will not ask their supporters to
protest the verdict. One party member in the federal capital of Islamabad
said he was relieved by the outcome.
``Now there is a chance that he might come out of jail someday,'' Raja Afzal
said. ``We don't have to worry about his life anymore.''
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Assalaamu alaikum brother Habib,
Alhamdullilah, (Praise be to Allah!)
Thank you very much for this reminder....
As we used to say: "DEHWAYN ATTY"
"YAL NDEIGN KO FEHKAY DEHWAYN"
May Allah The Almighty! increase our knowledge and faith!
Praise be to Allah! who ordained night (to be) a cover and sleep
(to be a mode of) rest; and made the day (to be the time of)
dispersion.
All praise be to Allah! for raising us from our sleep, for had Allah! =
wished so, Allah! would have made it everlasting; a praise perpetual, =
unceasing and which the whole of creation would be unable to count.
Praise be to You!, O Lord, for, You did create, and did so with =
symmetry, and You! did measure and dispose, and caused to die and to =
live, and make sick and restorest to health, and give safety.
Therefore safe the Gambia from her evil.
We pray unto You! like him whose cause is weak and whose resource is cut =
off, and whose death has approached and whose worldly hope has shrunk, =
and whose need for Your! mercy has become pressing, and whose regret for =
his default has grown intense, and whose guilt and error has been too =
frequent and whose repentance unto You! is sincere.
Therefore bless Muhammad (pbuh)the Last of the Prophets and the members =
of his house, the pure, the holy, and let us have the intercession of =
Muhammad (may Your favour be on him and his family) and do not deprive =
us of his company; verily, You! are the Most Merciful!!!!!
O Lord, in this New Year grant us four things:
(1) employ our strength in Your! service;
(2) let our delight consist in Your! worship;=20
(3) make us love Your! reward;=20
(4) and cause us to abstain from that which would make us deserving of =
painful chastisement from You! Verily, You! are Kind to whomsoever You! =
will.
Therefore GUIDE Gambia from a tragic desaster and LEAD
the Gambia to the Straight part and Afrika as a whole...Ameen!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
(Pulo)=20
From: Habib Ghanim, Sr=20
=20
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:21 AM
Today is the first day of the Islamic new year ( Hijrah calendar- AH ) =
1421=20
The festivities include what we have locally in Gambia as Tallabone =
and Tamharett=20
The tenth day is Ashura which is now a holiday in Banjul , I =
understand.- correct me if I am wrong=20
So I take this opportunity to wish you all a happy new year and best =
wishes to on the L=20
and remember Gambia in our prayers=20
Habib Diab Ghanim , Sr=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Assalaamu alaikum brother Habib,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Alhamdullilah, (Praise be to Allah!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thank you very much for this =
reminder....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>As we used to say: "DEHWAYN ATTY"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"YAL NDEIGN KO FEHKAY DEHWAYN"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>May Allah The Almighty! increase our knowledge and=20
faith!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Praise be to Allah! who ordained night (to be) a =
cover and=20
sleep</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(to be a mode of) rest; and made the day (to be the =
time=20
of)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>dispersion.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>All praise be to Allah! for raising us from our =
sleep, for had=20
Allah! wished so, Allah! would have made it everlasting; a praise =
perpetual,=20
unceasing and which the whole of creation would be unable to =
count.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Praise be to You!, O Lord, for, You did create, and =
did so=20
with symmetry, and You! did measure and dispose, and caused to die and =
to live,=20
and make sick and restorest to health, and give safety.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Therefore safe the Gambia from her =
evil.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>We pray unto You! like him whose cause is weak and =
whose=20
resource is cut off, and whose death has approached and whose worldly =
hope has=20
shrunk, and whose need for Your! mercy has become pressing, and whose =
regret for=20
his default has grown intense, and whose guilt and error has been too =
frequent=20
and whose repentance unto You! is sincere.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Therefore bless Muhammad (pbuh)the Last of the =
Prophets and=20
the members of his house, the pure, the holy, and let us have the =
intercession=20
of Muhammad (may Your favour be on him and his family) and do not =
deprive us of=20
his company; verily, You! are the Most Merciful!!!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>O Lord, in this New Year grant us four =
things:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(1) employ our strength in Your! =
service;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(2) let our delight consist in Your! worship; =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(3) make us love Your! reward; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(4) and cause us to abstain from that which would =
make us=20
deserving of painful chastisement from You! Verily, You! are Kind to =
whomsoever=20
You! will.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Therefore GUIDE Gambia from a tragic desaster =
and=20
LEAD</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>the Gambia to the Straight part and Afrika as a=20
whole...Ameen!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli=20
Muhammadin.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Samba Goddard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(Pulo)</FONT> </DIV>
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<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" [log in to unmask]>Habib =
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Sr</A> </DIV>
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AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"> </DIV>
<DIV>Today is the first day of the Islamic new year ( Hijrah calendar- =
AH )=20
1421 </DIV>
<P>The festivities include what we have locally in Gambia as Tallabone =
and=20
Tamharett=20
<P>The tenth day is Ashura which is now a holiday in Banjul , I =
understand.-=20
correct me if I am wrong=20
<P>So I take this opportunity to <FONT face=3D"Courier =
New,Courier"><FONT=20
size=3D+2>wish you all a happy new year and best wishes to on the=20
L</FONT></FONT> <BR>and remember Gambia in our prayers=20
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Assalaamu alaikum sister Jabou
Alhamdullilah,
Praise be to Allah Lord of the worlds
(There is no power and might except by Allah!)
Thank you so much for forwarding this wonderful message from Tonny Blair.
WHAT`S NEXT??? sister Jabou???
I want to remind you all that Allah`s promise NEVER failed......
Allah say in the Holy Qur`aan:
"Surely, it is Allah who is the great sustainer,
The Lord of power, The strong".
The role of man is passive. God! is the only agent of all forms of creation
and no other agent has Created Him".!!!!!
"O people We will show you our signs within the Universe and then within
your own mines.
So that you may know clearly with any shadow of douth that "Hach"(reality)
is Allah! He is the ultimate reality and you will find the ultimate
reality"...!!!
O Allah! we ask You! to make us thankful for Your! favour, to be of good
service to You! and grant us a sound heart and a truthful tongue.
We ask You! to grant us, what You! know to be good and to give us refuge
from what is evil, and You! are the knower of the Unseen.
O Allah! Inspire us with good conduct and save us from the evil of our
selfishness. Clear us in Your! presence of ascribing partners to You! which
is a great crime as You said in the Holy Qur`aan:
"Whoso ascribeth partners to You!, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin.
There we ask You! to clear us in Your presence of ascribing partners to You!
The Almighty, The Most High, The Merciful!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
(Pulo)
From: Jabou Joh
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:28 AM
Subject: Fwd: Tony Blair Praises Islam
> In a message dated 4/5/00 6:36:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
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> << Subj: AMC-NET: Tony Blair Praises Islam
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> With the Name of God, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful
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>
> Tony Blair Calls on Britain to Reach Out for More Understanding of Islam
>
> "There is a lot of misunderstanding about Islam. It is a deeply
reflective,
> peaceful, a very beautiful religious faith," stated British Prime
Minister
> Tony Blair, in an interview with The Muslim News, a United Kingdom based
> newspaper.
>
> The Prime Minister stated that he "owns two copies of the Qu'ran and
carries
> one with him whenever he can," a habit he picked up from Chelsea Clinton.
He
> also expressed his respect for Islam by saying that he ".draws
inspiration
> from it. If you read the Qu'ran.it is so clear, the concept of love and
> fellowship as the guiding spirits of humanity."
>
> The public statements made by the Prime Minister illustrating his
> appreciation of Islam, and his call for the necessity of Britain to
".reach
> out and build greater understanding of what Islam is and means and the
> values that underpin it," are an illustration of the growing recognition
of
> Islam.
>
> Mr. Blair also predicted that there would be more Muslim Members of
> Parliament in the next election. In fact he said that he would be, "very
> surprised if the Labour Party didn't have any Muslim candidates standing
in
> winnable seats in the next election."
>
> This interview with The Muslim News and Mr. Blair's words of praise, come
> after Britain sent the first ever official, British Hajj Delegation to
offer
> consular assistance to British pilgrims. Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, who was
> nominated by Blair and became the first ever Muslim in the House of
Lords,
> headed the Hajj Delegation.
>
> "The acknowledgment by the British government of its Muslim citizens is
> greatly appreciated and respected by the American Muslim community. We
look
> for the increased inclusion of Muslims in public affairs and a more
> proactive role in their society," states Aly Abuzaakouk, Executive
Director
> of the American Muslim Council.
>
> The full text of the interview can be read at The Muslim News website.
> http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/131/131-1-1.html
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<< Alhamdullilah,
Praise be to Allah Lord of the worlds
(There is no power and might except by Allah!)
Thank you so much for forwarding this wonderful message from Tonny Blair.
WHAT`S NEXT??? sister Jabou???
I want to remind you all that Allah`s promise NEVER failed.... >>
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Alaikum Salaam Samba,
Allah (SWT) promised that Islam will spread from one end of the Earth to
the other, and Inshallah, as you said, His promise never fails.
Thank you so much for the du'aa, and may He reward you for your striving in
His name. Ameen.
Jabou Joh
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Greetings:
I just spoke to Momodou Camara and Oumie Joof and they say the body has been
taken from the funeral home and is at the airport awaiting departure to
Gambia on Sunday or Monday.
Mo asked me to thank all for your condolences and will update. Any
assistance is welcome for the family.
Latjor
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Greetings:
Has anyone received this msg when visiting the gambiansonline website? I
found it quite tasteless!
Latjor
Upon clicking the enter button, this message came up:
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Greetings Fatou:
I will post the details of the conference this weekend.
Latjor
>
>latjor please post details of the leadership coference held recently.
>fatou jawmanneh
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Latjor,
I must say that it looks like a thief just reported himself to the cops.
I bet you America's Dumbest Criminals would love to have you on their show.
See, Latjor the only one that should be seeing the message "Hello Thief!"
are the ones trying to STEAL MY CODES. It is solely intended to thieves
and never intended to offend anyone else. It's call COPYRIGHT and I have
all rights reserved my friend.
Here's how it works folks. Open up your browser, goto View and then Click
Source and voila! you get the source code. Well, I guess I didn't make it
easy for hacker-wannabes so I call them thieves!. A very appropriate term.
You know it's sad that with all the good things that gambiansonline try to
bring , Latjor only has this to say? Well, I guess we're doing pretty good
then. Save the decent people on this List and send a complaint to
[log in to unmask] I thought you're smarter than this but I
guessed wrong. We have much more important issues and that's what this List
is about.
LATJOR, SORRY TO PUT IT TO YOU LIKE THIS BROTHER BUT BEING A THIEF IS WHAT
PEOPLE WOULD CALL T-A-S-T-E-L-E-S-S!
No hard Feelings,
George Sarr
Developer, Gambiansonline.com
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Greetings:
Has anyone received this msg when visiting the gambiansonline website? I
found it quite tasteless!
Latjor
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Sister Jbou
I want to add also that Prince Charles has confirmed reading the Holy Quran and
had very positive remarks too
Alhamdullilah
Habib
Jabou Joh wrote:
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> << Alhamdullilah,
> Praise be to Allah Lord of the worlds
> (There is no power and might except by Allah!)
>
> Thank you so much for forwarding this wonderful message from Tonny Blair.
>
> WHAT`S NEXT??? sister Jabou???
>
> I want to remind you all that Allah`s promise NEVER failed.... >>
> #######################################
> Alaikum Salaam Samba,
> Allah (SWT) promised that Islam will spread from one end of the Earth to
> the other, and Inshallah, as you said, His promise never fails.
> Thank you so much for the du'aa, and may He reward you for your striving in
> His name. Ameen.
>
> Jabou Joh
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My condolences to the family and friends of everyone who lost a
loved one recently.
Momodou Camara Copenhagen - Denmark
On 6 Apr 00, at 9:23, Jabou Joh wrote:
> My condolences to Baks Touray and the rest of the family. May Aji Haddy's
> soul rest in perfect peace, amd may Allah (SWT) grant her a place in Jannah.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> Thank you Kabir and Sheikh Tijan. To the Pa Matarr Touray family and the
> Ceesay family, my heartfelt condolences. Allah is sufficient for us, an
> excellent guardian, and we repose our trust in Allah. Surely we are Allah's
> and to Allah we shall return. May Ya Haddy's soul rest in peace. Inna
> lillahe ma akhaza wa lil lahe ma ata wa kullin indahu be ajalim musaman
> faltasbir wal tahtasib.
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> Ya Soffie Ceesay
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My stance is to justify the value and the appreciation for the use of other
languages too on this parnell. Even at the "bantaba" original! people do
speak different languages, and here the aroma and beautity of the varieties
made those societies to enjoye a multicultural environment. I mean, after
having all those requirements, which I suppose is one of the characteristics
of an ideal "bantaba",why should it be merginal in the usage of the mediums?
As we can see, this communication device is nothing like "regional" or
"local", it covers large distance areas, to say the entire universe! It is
therefore, fundamental to recognise the fact that this forum should not be
treated as secluded in such a manner that only Enlish speaking audience
would have the opportunity to express themselves and make their views heard.
To understand the other will explain a lot about our percieve value for
empathy. Yes, the majority is the must important part of every civilize
society. However, to promote that we must value the importance of the
minority, and that is, we have to know where they stand. To rally behind the
old "goose says" "English is our official language" is not promoting
knowledge, instead we keep on dancing to the old tunes. And, I wonder what
is considered to be a common language on a global description?
Well, I buy your compromise, to transulate will do a great favour, but lets
not condemn the idea of writing in other languages.It is not just fear!
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>Yahya, I am not disputing the essence or beauty of language. The gift of
>gab, especially the ability to put it on paper, is one of the greatest
>attributes of man. The inflections, intones, it's ability to transmit a
>message to many, and, finally the fact that it describes things that none
>of our other "attributes" are able to describe so aptly, makes language a
>thing of beauty and wonder.
>
>But my point was not an exercise in the beauty or essence of language, but,
>rather, it questioned the logic of posting in other languages on the L.
>The only reason I raised my objection is simply because, like it or not,
>English is our official medium of communication on the L.. Similarly, a
>Bantaba is a place where people come together and have a discussion in a
>common language. And it is usually characterized by rapid fire questions
>and answers, no place for someone that cannot or is not willing to
>understand the medium of communication. An attempt to do anything else but
>to conform to the language that is being used is a futile exercise in my
>opinion.
>
>One could argue that there are a few others who are not fluent in the
>language and they need to be catered to. These people understand a bit of
>English, otherwise they would not be part of the L. But what about the
>majority of us who would like to read about a topic regarding the plight of
>our African brothers in Mauritania or police brutality towards Gambians in
>Sweden, but cannot do so because it is in a language that we are unable to
>comprehend? For this reason, I suggested a compromise whereby, along with
>every post in a foreign language, there should be an accompanying
>translation in English. This would serve a dual purpose. First, it would
>help those who are not so fluent in our official medium of communication to
>learn English and to therefore be better equipped to actively participate
>in this Bantaba in the future. Also, it would allow the majority of us to
>understand the content of French posts etc.
>
>Since my initial response to Fatou's post, I have modified my stance.
>Hopefully, I am not being unreasonable.
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Fatou, you may try The World Health Organisation, 20 Avenue Appia, CH-1211
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Good luck.
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>Do you know how i can get some information about the gambia public health
>system or perhaps some information about the public health system for
>international and third world countries.
>
>thank u
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Title: POLITICS: Non-Aligned Movement Condemns Humanitarian
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By Thalif Deen
UNITED NATIONS, Apr 6 (IPS) - Amid strong criticism of the
unilateral Western military action in Kosovo last year, Third
World nations are now reiterating their opposition to a new
political concept gaining ground at the UN: "humanitarian
intervention".
At a meeting of foreign ministers in Cartagena, Colombia,
scheduled to take place this weekend, the Non-Aligned Movement
(NAM) will reaffirm one of the basic principles of the UN charter,
namely non-interference in the domestic affairs of sovereign
nation states.
A proposed NAM declaration, to be adopted at the ministerial
meeting, will "condemn all unilateral military actions or threats
of military action, including humanitarian intervention, against
the sovereignty, territorial integrity and independence of the
members of the Movement (NAM)."
Since "humanitarian intervention" could be used as a pretext for
armed aggression, some NAM members have proposed that the
declaration should be amended to read: "so-called humanitarian
intervention." A final decision on this will be taken in
Cartagena.
Currently, NAM is the largest single Third World political body
consisting of 114 members, while the Group of 77, which deals with
economic issues, comprises 133 developing countries.
Western nations argue that the United Nations has a right to
intervene in domestic conflicts purely on humanitarian grounds -
with or without the permission of the host country - particularly
if there is massive human rights violations as in Kosovo last year
or genocide as in Rwanda in 1998.
The North Atlanic Treaty Organisation (NATO), led by the United
States, bombed the former Yugoslavia for about 78 days.
In an interview published in a London newspaper Wednesday,
former
South African President Nelson Mandela criticised the United
States and Britain, both veto wielding permanent members of the
Security Council, for their unilateral action in Kosovo and also
for not seeking "explicit permission" from the Council before the
bombings.
"The message they're sending is that any country which fears a
(UN) veto can take unilateral action," Mandela said. "That means
they're introducing chaos into international affairs: that any
country can take a decision which it wants."
Mandela also criticised the United States and Britain for their
continued aerial bombing of Iraq in the "no-fly zone" whose
creation was not authorised by the UN Security Council.
Addressing the 188-member General Assembly last year, Secretary
General Kofi Annan called on member states to unite in the pursuit
of more effective policies to stop organised mass murder and
egregious violations of human rights.
"Although I emphasised that intervention embraced a wide
continuum
of responses, from diplomacy to armed action, it was the latter
option that generated the most controversy in the debate that
followed," he said Monday.
In a report spelling out his vision for the 21st century, Annan
said that some critics were concerned that the concept of
"humanitarian intervention" could become a cover for "gratuitious
interference" in the internal affairs of sovereign states.
Others felt that it might encourage secessionist movements
deliberately to provoke governments into committing gross
violations of human rights in order to trigger external
interventions that would aid their cause.
Still others noted that there is little consistency in the
practice of intervention, owing to its inherent difficulties and
costs, as well as perceived national interests - except that weak
states are far more likely to be subjected to it than strong ones.
"I recognise both the force and the importance of these
arguments," Annan said in his report released Monday. "I also
accept that the principles of sovereignty and non-interference
offer vital protection to small and weak states."
Humanitarian intervention, he pointed out, is a sensitive issue,
fraught with political difficulty, and not susceptible to easy
answers.
"But surely, no legal principle - not even sovereignty - can ever
shield crimes against humanity," he said in the report which will
go before heads of state at the upcoming Millennium Summit in
September.
Where such crimes occur and peaceful attempts to halt them have
been exhausted, he argued, the Security Council has a moral duty
to act on behalf of the international community.
"The fact that we cannot protect people everywhere is no reason
for doing nothing when we can, he asserted. "Armed intervention
must always remain the option of last resort, but in the face of
mass murder it is an option that cannot be relinquished."
To critics of human intervention, Annan said he would pose one
question: "If humanitarian intervention is, indeed, an
unacceptable assault on sovereignty, how should we respond to a
Rwanda, to a Srebenica - to gross and systematic violations of
human rights that offend every precept of our common humanity.?"
Last November the United Nations took much of the blame for the
deaths of thousands of Bosnian Muslims when Serb forces overran
the town of Srebrenica in July 1995. The fall of Srebrenica took
place despite the fact that it was under the protection of 150
Dutch peacekeeping troops and was also declared a "safe area" by
the UN.
"The cardinal lesson of Srebrenica is that a deliberate and
systematic attempt to terrorise, expel or murder an entire people
must be met decisively with all necessary means," Annan said.
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Title: POLITICS-EU/AFRICA: Civil Society Presses For More
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By Brian Kenety
BRUSSELS April 6 (IPS) - civil society activists have reiterated
the 'inextricable' link between democracy, good governance, human
rights and poverty eradication.
A declaration from the Africa-Europe Civil Society, presented
to the Africa-Europe Summit in Cairo this week, underscored the
need for a genuine partnership between European governments to
engage Africa at both government and civil society levels.
"We commit ourselves to lobbying European governments to
engage Africa on the basis of what Africa needs and not on the
basis of what Europe thinks Africa needs or wants," stated the
declaration.
The declaration was presented to the summit by a small
delegation of civil society activists.
The delegation represented the Africa-Europe Civil Society
Forum, a group of 80 persons from 34 countries, that were forced
to meet in Lisbon over the weekend after organisers "had not been
granted conditions to hold it in Cairo," according to the Council
of Europe's North-South Centre (NSC).
The NSC and the EU Commission had sponsored the alternative
meeting in the Portuguese capital.
The historic Cairo Summit was the first time the 15 EU and 52
OAU member states had met at the head of state and government
level.
However, Egypt, which had initially granted the Africa-Europe
Civil Society Forum permission to hold a meeting in Cairo parallel
to the Summit, said at the eleventh hour that it could not be held
due to "security concerns," though EU and other sources said that
OAU states had been against it.
In an open letter to the Prime Minister of Portugal, whose
country now holds the rotating EU presidency, the New York-based
organisation Human Rights Watch said it was "alarmed to learn that
the (OAU) prohibited the Civil Society Forum from taking place."
The international watchdog group said that the emergence of a
"vibrant civil society is among the most important developments
sweeping the (African) continent, yet remains precarious and
vulnerable in many countries."
Noting that the Forum's impact would be "diminished" by the
forced relocation to Lisbon, Human Rights Watch called on the EU
and its member states to "commit themselves to work with African
governments and civil society actors throughout the continent to
ensure that human rights forms a cornerstone of (bilateral)
relations."
The delegation consisted of David Gakuzi (Burundi), an expert
in conflict resolution; Muriu Muthoni (Senegal), of the African,
Caribbean and Pacific group (ACP) Civil Society Forum; Fatima
Proenca and Ahmed Zaki (Portugal), Platform of Portuguese NGOs;
Koffi Toussah (Togo), the RAJ youth forum; and Said Cherchira
(France) of the Migrant's Forum.
The Forum's declaration covered four main areas: the
eradication of poverty and impoverishment and the work towards the
development of social well-being; economic and globalisation
issues; human rights, democracy, the rule of law and the good
management of public affairs; and the role of civil society.
It stressed both the "external and internal obstacles to the
eradication of poverty, the promotion of well-being and the
achievement of sustainable development."
The external obstacles include Africa's staggering 350-billion
US dollar debt, "incoherence between the development and other
policies of the EU and other donors" and the "progressive,
illegitimate concentration of non-democratic power" in the major
international institutional lenders and the World Trade
Organisation.
The declaration called on the EU member states to respect a
commitment made during various United Nations conferences to
earmark 0.7 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) towards the
development of the world's poorest countries, while noting that
"economic growth alone cannot satisfy the poverty reduction
objective."
The declaration stated that absolute poverty exists throughout
the African continent and that of the 590 million people in sub-
Saharan Africa, 250 million do not have access to potable water,
205 million lack access to health care, and 220 million people
struggle to survive on less than one US dollar per day.
Therefore, the eradication of poverty "should be the
overarching goal ... central to the formulation of development
policies and strategies," it says.
"We maintain that the unfettered and unmanaged liberalisation
of trade between countries and regions with highly unequal levels
of development is inimical to poverty eradication," says the
declaration obtained by IPS.
"Moreover, we note with concern that globalisation leading to
economic disparities and inequality fuels conflict in Africa." In
this regard, the Forum welcomed provisions within the new trade
and aid Partnership Agreement between the African, Pacific and
Caribbean (ACP) states and the EU that include "the financing of
trade promotion (for the ACP states) including fair trade."
However, the Forum noted that current agreements between the EU
and South Africa and the ACP states "are likely to lead to a
weakening and fragmentation of existing regional structures" and
the subsequent advance of bilateral relations with the EU.
It appealed to African leaders to "take action or carry on
their efforts at redefining their economic policies in order to
take into account, in an effective way and in the spirit of 'good
governance' ... the interests, economic and social rights of
communities particularly affected by poverty."(END/IPS/bk/sm/00)
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ABUJA, April 6 (AFP) - Cuban President Fidel Castro offered to
send a plane for Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo for an
official visit and the G77 summit next week but was politely turned
down, Obasanjo's office said Thursday.
"The president declined this offer basically because it is
considered that it may not be in the interest of Nigeria that the
president should take a lift from the Cuban government," Okupe
said.
The spokesman said that Castro gave many reasons for offering to
fly Obasanjo to Cuba, one of which was that it would be an
"embarrassment" to see the leader of a powerful African nation
travelling by commercial plane, Okupe added.
But the Nigerian leader "still considered it easier to take a
commercial flight than to cede sovereignty and take another
country's plane, flying the flag of Cuba," the spokesman said.
Obasanjo said last month he would have to take a British Airways
flight Saturday night to Cuba via London and Jamaica after the
Nigerian parliament turned down a request for 89 million dollars to
buy a new presidential plane.
The request for a new plane came after the presidency learned
that the current 20-year-old presidential plane is considered too
oil and noisy to fly internationally under new aviation regulations
introduced in April, Okupe said.
Nigerian lawmakers, feuding with the president, called the
request inappropriate.
Obasanjo's spokesman said earlier the president will pay an
official visit to Cuba next week ahead of the G77 summit of
developing countries due to start Wednesday.
The Nigerian president will meet Castro and other government
officials during the visit Monday and Tuesday. Obasanjo last visited
Cuba last year shortly before taking power following his election
last February.
Nigeria is the chair of the G77 meeting which opens in Havana
Wednesday.
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From: Sidi Sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
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Beola,
How can I ever forget Monsieur FAAL? How about Monsieur SAAR? What of Ms.
Whiteside and Mr.R.P.Pye? It would appear that despite their efforts you
are still struggling with the language.You are not alone "mon cher amie." I
am still in the "Fulladu" with you playing the game of chance. Look, its
either "le" or "la":a 50/50 chance of getting it right the first time
'round, better odds than any National Lottery on earth. Concerning the
French postings by Fatou, I cannot help but appreciate the language; after
all, I live and work in Francophonie. I am glad that the "problem" has been
resolved. Yus, I will try that "translator" business after I master fully
the "select all", "copy 2 & "paste." I thank you and Saul for giving me a
helping hand along the way. Abdoulaye, now you know.
SM
(Helsinki)
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Fellow members:
I am writing to inform those of you in Britain that the Birmingham based
African Caribbean Self Helf Organisation will be hosting a two day course at
the Organisation's headquarters, located at 104 Heathfield Road, here in
Birmingham, on the weekend of 29 & 30 April, from 10 am until 6pm each day.
This will be a 16-hour course over two days at University level. One of the
unique features of this course would be its straight forward teaching
approach. Cassette tapes of the course will also be made available to all
participants.
The course "Giant Footsteps in the Sands of Time" takes participants on an
exciting and an enlightening journey which traces the historical footsteps
of the Afrikan people spanning 14 million years up to the year 1942 of the
common era. It will be conducted by Dr Ishakamusa Barashango (USA), the
renowned historian, author and lecturer.
Each module in the 10 module course covers a particular chronological period
in the growth and development of the Afrikan people and their creation and
establishment of high culture civilisations in the ancient world.
One of the objectives of this course is to put the formerly existent
research data and the more recent rediscoveries of some of the brilliant
scholars of our time in the language of and at the fingerprints of educators
and people from all walks of life.
Fees for the course are £65 for the two days, for individuals, and £95 for
institutions. For Further information, you can call Brother Bini Brown on
0121 554 2747.
The Organisation's address is 104 Heathfield Rd, Birmingham, B19 1HJ.
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The Pan African Congress Movement (PACM) will also be hosting this year's
Africa Liberation Day 2000, here in Birmingham, on the 28 and 29 May.
The main speaker at the occasion will be the dynamic and inspirational Dr
Jewel Pookrum MD (USA), who authored the book "Vitamins and Minerals". This
year's theme is : "The Black Man and Black Woman Relationship - The bridge
that links us to the past, present and the future."
There will be other speakers as well, including performers, arts and craft
and lively discussions.
The venue is Holyhead School at Florence Road; and admission is £10 for the
two days or £6 per day. Children under 16 will not have to pay.
For further details contact/call:
Birmingham: 0121 554 2747
London: 0181 802 4489
Manchester: 0161 257 2092
Wolverhampton: 07967 765069
A truly African family occasion not to be missed.
Sandra
Postscript: I have just finished reading the Gambia-L position paper,
written by Dr Saine, in the latest issue of the New African Magazine.
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Beola,
What's your take ( a la OB ) on Tapha's case. Hamjatta has declared his
position. I may come in later. OB are you there?
SM
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> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:04:32 +0100
> From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]>
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> Subject: [Fwd: Obituary]
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> Kabir,
> Grateful forward on the list as i have been technically taken out of
> the
> list due to some problems with the quantum server.
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> Thanks. Chi Jamma.
> Bro Sheikh Tejan Nyang.
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> Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 07:10:13 +0100
> From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]>
> To:
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> It is with deep regret that i wish to announce the death of Aji Haddy
> ceesay of
> Rankin Street. Ya Haddy was the mother to Dr Omar Touray ,Baks Touray
> ,Amat and
> the rest of the Touray. Ya Haddy was a dear and caring mother who
> devoted all
> her time in taking care of all the kids of Rankin Street and the
> nabourhood. Our
> condolences to Omar, Baks and the rest of the family. May her soul
> rest in
> perfect peace.
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> [log in to unmask] wrote:
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> > It is with deep regret that I announce the death of my dear aunt,
> Aji Ndey
> > Saine of Mantel Street, Banjul and also wife of Koto Bamba Njie of
> New
> > Orleans., Louisiana.
> >
> > Koto Bamba is currently visiting The Gambia.
> > This sudden death occured yesterday, April 1 whilst they were
> performing
> > Salat ul Maghreb.
> >
> > May Allah give her Jannah.
> >
> > Fatou Saine-Darbo
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Many thanks to all for your wishes. I hope you have all enjoyed perusing
through the abstract.
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WISHING YOU ALL THE BEST OF THE NEW YEAR. FROM
YOUR FRIENDS AT DARBO`S TRAVEL & TOURS
THANKS
LAMIN
Habib Ghanim, Sr wrote:
>
> Today is the first day of the Islamic new year ( Hijrah calendar- AH )
> 1421
>
> The festivities include what we have locally in Gambia as Tallabone
> and Tamharett
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> The tenth day is Ashura which is now a holiday in Banjul , I
> understand.- correct me if I am wrong
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> So I take this opportunity to wish you all a happy new year and best
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> and remember Gambia in our prayers
>
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Greetings George:
Apparently you have not changed a bit over the years. I recall your childish
outbursts over a year ago between you and others before you disappeared from
the list. I dismissed it then as just the emotional outbursts of an immature
uncultured child and I will continue to do so until you change.
You recently rejoined gambia-l again and observing your language and
attitude toward others I see you have not grown up emotionally still.
I am therefore not surprise at your most recent emotional albeit libelous
statements hurled at me. But I will grin, bear, shake my head then try to
rehablitate through education one who needs guidance.
First, how do you know I was stealing your codes? I think I said that I
clicked on the enter button when your page was loading to interrupt you
intro flash when the unsavory message was received. But I guess you do not
read very well.
Second, on the subject of viewing page sources, what makes you think that
people do not have the freedom to view any website's page source? If that
was the case, browsers such as netscape and internet explorer would not
come with the option to click 'view' then 'page source'.
I am not sure how long you have been on the net and if you know the history
of the internet. But the spirit of learning and sharing is firmly embedded
in cyberspace. Click on most major websites (not minor and virtually obscure
sites such as yours) and go to 'view' then 'page source' and see whether the
words "hello thief! ..." is sent to you. Go to Bill Gates' website
'www.microsoft.com' or Ted Turner's 'www.cnn.com' and report back to the
list. My point therefore is very simply this: If George Sarr's website page
source is so spectacular that it makes him paranoid that someone (like
Latjor) is going to steal his source, then I wonder why Bill and Ted are not
in the same boat as Mr. Sarr. If this is your understanding of 'hacking'
then I can only laugh, for everyone with access to the internet is a hacker!
BTW, what is so spectacular about your website that would compel me to steal
your generic source codes.
The last time I came to the site, a week or two ago, (since I am no longer
welcome) I observed that you use basic, elementary flash and basic html
(probably using one of the popular editors), and graphics which display a
certain novice with graphic arts. The 'news' comes from other websites via
links etc...
I thought though that it was good that more Gambian sites are popping up.
You seem to be upset because Latjor has not commented on your website as
your statement below seems to reflect. It is not because Latjor does not
think you are to be commended, but simply that Latjor has been occupied with
a whole bunch of other stuff. You said:
>You know it's sad that with all the good things that gambiansonline try to
>bring , Latjor only has this to say? Well, I guess we're doing pretty good
>then.
Latjor only queried because Latjor received an offensive message!
For your information, I have been building websites since 1995, when few
Gambians knew then what the 'www' was all about. I manage several sites and
show people interested how to build web pages, digital editing, etc...
Finally George, learn to be respectful and in turn people will respect you.
In peace,
Latjor
>
>Latjor,
> I must say that it looks like a thief just reported himself to the
>cops.
>I bet you America's Dumbest Criminals would love to have you on their show.
>See, Latjor the only one that should be seeing the message "Hello Thief!"
>are the ones trying to STEAL MY CODES. It is solely intended to thieves
>and never intended to offend anyone else. It's call COPYRIGHT and I have
>all rights reserved my friend.
>
>Here's how it works folks. Open up your browser, goto View and then Click
>Source and voila! you get the source code. Well, I guess I didn't make it
>easy for hacker-wannabes so I call them thieves!. A very appropriate term.
>You know it's sad that with all the good things that gambiansonline try to
>bring , Latjor only has this to say? Well, I guess we're doing pretty good
>then. Save the decent people on this List and send a complaint to
>[log in to unmask] I thought you're smarter than this but I
>guessed wrong. We have much more important issues and that's what this List
>is about.
>
>LATJOR, SORRY TO PUT IT TO YOU LIKE THIS BROTHER BUT BEING A THIEF IS WHAT
>PEOPLE WOULD CALL T-A-S-T-E-L-E-S-S!
>
> No hard Feelings,
> George Sarr
> Developer, Gambiansonline.com
>Latjor Wrote:
>
>From: latjor ndow <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: gambiansonline - Hello Thief!
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Date: Apr 06, 2000
>
>
>Greetings:
>Has anyone received this msg when visiting the gambiansonline website? I
>found it quite tasteless!
>Latjor
>
>Upon clicking the enter button, this message came up:
>Transfer interrupted!
>
>hief! Hello Thief! Hello Thief! Hello Thief! Hello Thief! Hello Thief!
>Hello
>Thief! Hello Thief! Hello Thief! Hello Thief! Hello
>Thief! Hello Thief! -->
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Latjor,
I repeat my e-mail address is [log in to unmask] Better yet send your
obscure comments to [log in to unmask] and you'll do a lot of
favor to the respectable people on this List. I am the youngest here so
I wonder who is being childlish here. I'll reiterate that I personally
hold no grudge on you or anyone else on this List. Believe me I value
life and am forever happy.
It's obvious that you overreacted and thus making a fool out of your-
self in front of everyone here. You missing the point here and that is
this you should send gambiansonline a feedback first below remarking on
something you obviously not an expert to comment on. What you try to
insinuate is unprofessional, immature and stereotypically 'ungambian'.
We don't need this BS on this list again. Call me, e-mail me and I'll
see if i can help you brother. Can we all get along! Geez! man what's
gotten to you lately. Am very disappointed in you.
Latjor, you have to earn respect and am not what you think of me. Get to
know before u say a word. I think you owe me an apology and if you I owe you
an apology as well then so be it but I tell one thing buddy, I have a low
tolerance for immature adults. Till next time take care of yourself and
each. I have no further comment on this matter. One Love!
I stand corrected,
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Subject: Re: GAMBIA ORG CONFERENCE PAPER NR 1( LEADERSHIP )
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Dear Fatou :
The point here is, who is to be blamed for the down-fall of the =
organization?
I think that the previous leaders of the organization should be held =
responsible
for what ever happened to the organization. Every organization requires
an effective leadership in order to function properly and to obtain =
its=B4 objectives.
I can profoundly mention to you that the Gambian organization has never =
had a=20
competent leadership.=20
What are the characteristics of a competent leader?
A: Supervisory abilities: The performance of basic functions of =
management,
including planning, organizing, motivating, coordinating, and =
controlling the
work of others.
B: Need for occupational achievement : The seeking of responsibility =
and the
desire for success.
C: Intelligence : Creative and communication ability, including =
judgement, reasoning
and thinking capacity.
D: Decisiveness : Ability to make decisions and solve problems =
effectively.
E: Self confidence : Extend to which individual views himself or herself =
as capable of=20
coping with problems.
F: Initiative: Ability to act independently and develop courses of =
action not readily
apparent to other people. Self starter, be able to find new =
innovative ways of doing
things.
RESPONSIBILITY:
Responsibility is an obligation to perfom work activity. The leader must =
be available and
be capable of providing assistance and information to the members when =
required.
He must be engaged in numerous activities essential towards the success =
of the=20
organization. In this regard, responsibility is a felt obligation. The =
degree to which a leader
feels the obligation to perfom is enhanced significantly if =
responsibilities are clearly defined.
This brings us to " effective communication".
COMMUNICATION:
In order for members to get involved and participate as a team to =
achieve the objectives
identified by the leader, they must have a clear understanding of those =
objectives.
Communication is the transfer of information, ideas, understanding, or =
feelings between=20
people. In every organization, especially the Gambian organization, =
communication can
provide the means by which the objectives of the organization may be =
accomplished in
a manner that benefits every Gambian in this community, even non =
members. The behaviour
in which debates are to be held, programs, plans and other activities to =
be implemented
must be communicated effectively and clearly to all the members =
involved.
A common problem that affects the communication process is that each =
person has a=20
different background, experience and objectives, especially with in the =
Gambian communities.
It is very significant for the leaders of the Gambian organization =
(OGIS) to realize that the=20
organization should be built on value, trust and confidence, instead of =
having to deal=20
profoundly with "the money and the profits made." The money, the money, =
the money, is
exclusively what i have been hearing about the gambian organization ever =
since i left
the US and moved to Stockholm in 1986. The building of the above =
mentioned qualities
may take some time to obtain, but it is vital to a resolution of a =
crisis that it must be put into
immediate consideration. By winning the hearts of the Gambian commnunity =
through
building value, trust and confidence, will the organization be more =
effective in acquiring its=B4
objectives.
OBJECTIVES:
The organization must set up objectives that the members can identify =
with. This can help
individuals identify ways of meeting their needs. Accomplishing =
objectives can be reinforcing
in itself. Objective setting thus encourages and motivates members to =
exert effort, and this way=20
be one of the most significant factors as far as managing a non =
profitable organization is=20
concern. The objectives of the organization must be specified, defined =
and implemented.
There must be time period limits set for these objectives as well.
It is important for the organization (OGIS) to be more proficient in =
dealing with issues like
democracy, transparency and accountability, in order to avoid false =
impression, misunderstanding
and gossip. It must also be more dependent on the members. New ideas =
should always be
encouraged and dealt with, democratically.
There have been some intellectuals who tried to manage the organization =
previously, not realizing
that intelligence alone does not necessarily signify a competent leader. =
Management requires
some of the skills and abilities mentioned above. I hope that the =
reformation program that is
going on in the organization will be a successful one, that provides the =
members and the rest
of the Gambian community in Sweden with value, trust and confidence. Or =
the best Gambian=20
organization abroad ever existed. =20
Saul S.Jawara
Upplands Vasby
Sweden.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "fatou" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 7:55 PM
Subject: GAMBIA ORG CONFERENCE PAPER NR 1
> THIS PAPER WAS PRESENTED BY BROTHER BUHARRY AT THE GAMBIAN =
ORGANISATION
> CONFERENCE IN STOCKHOLM SWEDEN, SUNDAY 2 APRIL 2000.FROM THE ELECTORAL
> COMMITTEE.
> THANK YOU.
>=20
> ----------
> Fr=E5n: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA
>=20
> Datum: den 4 april 2000 22:11
>=20
>=20
> =
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>=20
> The situation of Gambians in Sweden has since the arrival =
of
> the first Gambians in the country not been an enviable one. This is =
due to
> a variety of factors. Factors such as tribalism, sectionalism, =
disunity,
> materialism, laze, greed, illiteracy etc. can be cited to have been =
and
> continue to be strong impediments to Gambians' advancement within the
> Swedish set-up. The attendant implication has been the stagnation of
> Gambians within the society compared to other immigrant groups. To =
address
> these issues and remedy the plight of Gambians, the Organization of
> Gambians in Sweden (OGIS) was formed. The organization however fell =
victim
> to the above vices plus mismanagement, political infighting, =
embezzlement
> etc. from its very inception. This has rendered it incapable of =
achieving
> the goals it was set up to achieve.
>=20
> Successive administrations have tried to rid the =
organization
> of the vices that have kept it from realising its aims as envisioned =
by its
> founders. The results of these attempts have however not been =
impressive
> leading to the current attempt to find ways of building a modern, =
effective
> and independent organization to address the concerns of the Gambian
> community. Before jumping to the issue of trying to build such an
> organization, an analysis of some of the problems that have plagued =
the
> OGIS since its inception needs to be carried out.
>=20
> One of the major problems that the organization has had =
deals
> with the lack of proper financial and accounting mechanisms to handle =
the
> monetary and other assets of the organization. There is no standard
> accounting system for the organization and every administration comes =
with
> its own accounting system making it difficult for successive
> administrations to grasp the organization's financial condition. This =
is
> coupled with the poor or non-existent system of receipt collection and
> organization. This has resulted in the loss of thousands and some =
even
> estimate hundreds of thousands of Kronor.
>=20
> Another problem that has plagued the OGIS is impulsiveness =
and
> lack of planning. Activities with heavy financial implications are
> undertaken without proper research and planning resulting in heavy =
losses
> for the organization. These activities have ranged from poorly planned
> cultural events to ineffective seminars to disastrous children's =
activities
> with the attendant implications of not only monetary loss but the =
erosion
> of the organization's credibility in the eyes of those whose interests =
it
> is supposed to serve.
>=20
> The third problem that has plagued the OGIS is the =
nonchalant
> attitude of its members towards the provisions of its Constitution, =
the
> organization's guiding document. The Constitution defines the =
procedures to
> be adhered to when dealing with various issues related to the =
organization
> but these are nearly always ignored. This has resulted in many =
problems for
> the organization. These problems have included arguments, divisions, =
legal
> wrangling etc. resulting in a waste of the organization's time and
> resources.
>=20
> The fourth problem that the OGIS has is its lack of =
credibility
> in the eyes of the Gambian community. This is a major problem as it =
has
> resulted in a steep decline in membership to the organization. One of =
the
> reasons for the organization's lack of trustworthiness is the lack of
> effective management especially in the financial realm. The poor =
management
> of the financial aspects of the organization has resulted in =
accusation
> upon accusation of financial misconduct thus undermining the OGIS' =
stature
> in the Gambian community.
>=20
> Another of the OGIS' problems is the lack of proper =
meeting
> procedures. This on the surface does not seem to be a major problem =
but a
> closer investigation will reveal that it is indeed a very serious =
problem.
> Poor handling of meetings resulting in disruptions, personal attacks =
etc.
> makes it very difficult for the OGIS to address the real issues =
crucial to
> its effective functioning as an organization.
>=20
> How can the OGIS be transformed into a modern, effective =
and
> independent organization that will be able to identify and effectively =
deal
> with the burning problems of the Gambian community? The first step =
should
> be to make a comprehensive identification and analysis of the
> organization's problems. Some of the issues identified above are =
important
> elements of the overall hindrances to the effectiveness of OGIS as an
> entity but are by no means the only hindrances. Systematically =
identifying
> and analysing the impediments to the organization's success is a very
> important step and has to be carried out with meticulousness. After an
> analysis has been done, ways of incorporating methods to counter them =
in
> the future have to be woven into the organizational fabric of the =
OGIS.
> This in short, amounts to change management, which requires that an
> assessment of the required change is made and the mechanisms required =
to
> manage it are created.
>=20
> The second step should be to revamp the organization's
> accounting mechanism. A standard accounting system should be adopted =
and
> all Treasurers should before being elected certify that they =
understand and
> are able to work with the system. Efforts should be made to acquire a
> computerised accounting system to ease the work. As the aim is to =
create a
> modern organization, the previous backward accounting system of making
> entries on pieces of paper and plastic bags, which cannot be found =
when
> needed, should be abandoned. A requirement that all expenses are =
requested
> using a request form and that receipts must be provided as a rule for =
all
> expenditures should be implemented. This will not only improve the
> organization's accounting system but it will also help restore its
> credibility in the Gambian community.
>=20
> A Financial Committee should be formed. The role of this
> committee will be to further strengthen the financial regulations and
> methods of the organization by acting as a buffer between the various
> committees and the Treasurer. All expenditure requests will be handled =
by
> the committee and approved before being forwarded to the Treasurer for
> dispensation. The committee will look at cheaper alternatives and make
> suggestions regarding the request before authorising the Treasurer to
> provide the funds. The committee will be provided with copies of all
> receipts so that it can keep a separate accounting profile that can be
> helpful to the Auditor when the Treasurer is being audited.
>=20
> To avoid the impulsive and oftentimes disastrous spending =
of
> the organization's funds, the organization's overall activities should =
be
> determined and budgeted for on a yearly basis. This will ensure that =
all
> activities are strategically planned and looked into. Strategically
> planning the activities of the organization will ensure that their =
goals
> are determined, current and future situations are analysed and that a
> strategic plan is produced. It will also give the Financial Committee =
time
> to look at alternative prices and come up with suggestions. This way,
> activities that are poorly planned will be avoided.
>=20
> A Legal Adviser conversant with the Constitution should be
> elected. It will be the Legal Adviser's responsibility to ensure that =
all
> activities carried out under the aegis of the organization are in line =
with
> the provisions of the Constitution. The Legal Adviser will also ensure =
that
> the inner workings of the Executive Committee conform to the rules
> established by the Constitution.
>=20
> The fifth step should be to create a Public Relations (PR)
> organ whose responsibility will be to recover the credibility of the
> organization. The PR organ can be incorporated into the existing =
committees
> or created as a separate entity. The PR organ should look at ways of
> reviving the defunct newsletter, look into the possibility of creating =
a
> homepage for the organization where all general, financial and other
> information will be readily available to all members and the general
> public. The PR organ should also work together with the other =
committees to
> create activities to promote the organization and enhance its stature =
in
> the Gambian community.
>=20
> The organization should also develop meeting procedures. =
These
> procedures should be in the form of a booklet that will be made =
available
> to all members so that they can behave properly during meetings to =
ensure
> the effective use of time. The procedures should determine the role of =
the
> chair and recorders, the floor etc. and identify group problem solving
> techniques to help reach effective decisions.
>=20
> To create an independent organization, the OGIS should not
> allow itself to be manipulated by organizations and individuals whose
> interests are antithetical to those of its own. The Executive =
Committee
> should ensure that the interests of the OGIS are paramount and that =
any
> attempt to thwart the aspirations of the organization and its members
> should be vehemently fought.
>=20
> The OGIS as has been seen has a myriad of problems that =
have
> hindered it from effectively tackling the issues it was created to =
tackle.
> In order for it to function as intended, these problems have to be
> identified and remedied and proper procedures and mechanisms put into
> place. Instituting new modus operandi based on the need to create a =
modern,
> effective and independent organization will take a lot of sacrifice =
and
> hard work but with dedication to the organization's ideals and guided =
by
> transparency and probity, the desired results can be achieved.
>=20
> =
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Abacha's Hitman Makes Chilling Disclosures
April 7, 2000=20
Paul Ejime
PANA Correspondent=20
LAGOS, Nigeria (PANA) - Sergeant Barnabas 'Rogers' Jabila, a =
self-confessed hitman of late Nigerian military ruler Gen. Sani Abacha, =
has continued to make headlines with startling revelations at the Lagos =
murder trial of senior Abacha regime officials.
Testifying as chief prosecution witness in the conspiracy and attempted =
murder trial of former army chief, Lt.-Gen. Ishaya Bamaiyi and four =
others, Jabila told a jammed courtroom Thursday: "I had no motive to =
kill. I was only acting on instructions from my superiors."=20
He was cross-examined for more than 120 minutes by defence counsel =
before Justice Ade Alabi of the Lagos High Court adjourned hearing until =
9 May.
Jabila, who had earlier told the court that he and his accomplices =
received instructions from Bamaiyi and Abacha's chief security of =
officer, Maj. Hamza al- Mustapha, on their missions to eliminate =
opponents of the regime, said that he was now a born-again Christian.
Virtually turning the courtroom into a church, the bearded hefty =
sergeant, described a born-again Christian as "somebody who has repented =
from evil, which includes arson and murder and accepts Jesus Christ as a =
personal Lord and Saviour."
Punctuating his statements with "praise the Lord," the judge at one =
stage warned Jabila not to bring religion into the trial.
Clad in bullet-proof jacket, Jabila, who claimed he had a lot to reveal, =
further informed the court that he was under protective custody, against =
possible reprisal attacks by those who could be hurt by his revelations.
Bamaiyi and the other four, who have all pleaded not guilty to the =
charge, are facing trial for the attempted murder in February 1999 of =
Alex Ibru, publisher of the Guardian newspaper, who had also served as =
interior minister under Abacha.
Mustapha is facing a separate trial along with Abacha's son Mohammed, =
for the alleged murder of Kudirat Abiola, wife of presidential claimant =
Moshood Abiola in June 1996.=20
Kudirat was killed while driving in Lagos, and her husband died in =
detention in June 1998.
Mustapha has also been arraigned for the murder, through lethal =
injection of Nigeria's former deputy military ruler, Maj.-Gen. Shehu =
Musa Ya'ardua, in 1997.
Jabila told the court that although he saw Abacha once during his rule =
until his death in June 1998, he took his orders from Mustapha.=20
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<P>LAGOS, Nigeria (PANA) - Sergeant Barnabas 'Rogers' Jabila, a =
self-confessed=20
hitman of late Nigerian military ruler Gen. Sani Abacha, has continued =
to make=20
headlines with startling revelations at the Lagos murder trial of senior =
Abacha=20
regime officials.
<P>Testifying as chief prosecution witness in the conspiracy and =
attempted=20
murder trial of former army chief, Lt.-Gen. Ishaya Bamaiyi and four =
others,=20
Jabila told a jammed courtroom Thursday: "I had no motive to kill. I was =
only=20
acting on instructions from my superiors."=20
<P>He was cross-examined for more than 120 minutes by defence counsel =
before=20
Justice Ade Alabi of the Lagos High Court adjourned hearing until 9 May.
<P>Jabila, who had earlier told the court that he and his accomplices =
received=20
instructions from Bamaiyi and Abacha's chief security of officer, Maj. =
Hamza al-=20
Mustapha, on their missions to eliminate opponents of the regime, said =
that he=20
was now a born-again Christian.
<P>Virtually turning the courtroom into a church, the bearded hefty =
sergeant,=20
described a born-again Christian as "somebody who has repented from =
evil, which=20
includes arson and murder and accepts Jesus Christ as a personal Lord =
and=20
Saviour."
<P>Punctuating his statements with "praise the Lord," the judge at one =
stage=20
warned Jabila not to bring religion into the trial.
<P>Clad in bullet-proof jacket, Jabila, who claimed he had a lot to =
reveal,=20
further informed the court that he was under protective custody, against =
possible reprisal attacks by those who could be hurt by his revelations.
<P>Bamaiyi and the other four, who have all pleaded not guilty to the =
charge,=20
are facing trial for the attempted murder in February 1999 of Alex Ibru, =
publisher of the Guardian newspaper, who had also served as interior =
minister=20
under Abacha.
<P>Mustapha is facing a separate trial along with Abacha's son Mohammed, =
for the=20
alleged murder of Kudirat Abiola, wife of presidential claimant Moshood =
Abiola=20
in June 1996.=20
<P>Kudirat was killed while driving in Lagos, and her husband died in =
detention=20
in June 1998.
<P>Mustapha has also been arraigned for the murder, through lethal =
injection of=20
Nigeria's former deputy military ruler, Maj.-Gen. Shehu Musa Ya'ardua, =
in 1997.
<P>Jabila told the court that although he saw Abacha once during his =
rule until=20
his death in June 1998, he took his orders from Mustapha.=20
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Africa ready for rebirth
The Sowetan (Johannesburg)
April 7, 2000
Johannesburg - Through African renaissance the continent's intelligentsia
are seeking to start a popular movement for change, writes Sharon Chetty. On
a continent beset by a litany of woes, talking about a rebirth and renewal
is often met with cynicism. And justifiably so.
Africa has the highest percentage of poverty-stricken and ill-educated
people in the world, a large number of its leaders are unelected, ethnic
divisions fuel the competition for resources and it has only a minute
proportion of global infrastructure.
Now, almost four decades after independence from colonialism first started,
the intelligentsia of the continent are once again looking to propagate
fundamental change that will lead to a re-birth in attitude and a renewal of
the idea of ubuntu.
The idea is not new. In the 1960s, leaders like Julius Nyerere, Kwame
Nkrumah and Sekou Toure espoused an independent, prosperous Africa where its
peoples regained the dignity lost to centuries of colonialism.
Although 30 years later Nyerere's "United States of Africa" may not have
been attained, there is a "new wind", especially since South Africa's
liberation from apartheid, sweeping the continent that is expected to lead
to at least some of the ideals taking root, say analysts.
In South Africa, the idea of an African renaissance has been spearheaded by
President Thabo Mbeki and over the past two years the notion has gained
currency as leaders in different fields have added substance to what was at
first seen as mere idealism.
This weekend, at a conference in Johannesburg, the South African Chapter of
the African Renaissance (Sacar) will be launched and the gathering is
expected to attract more than 1 500 participants from different sectors,
both locally and from abroad.
The aim is to start a "popular movement" that will ensure that the idea of
an African renaissance is not merely confined to the domain of intellectuals
and to put into practice some of the ideas that have been debated.
Already, commissions have been set up to look at economic recovery; health
and medical affairs; science and technology; continental affairs; arts,
culture and heritage; human settlements; energy and environment; human
resource development; infrastructure and communication; gender; youth; peace
and governance and minerals.
Their tasks have been to identify "deliverable and realistic" projects and
look at the challenges faced by the different sectors, says Dr Meshack
Khosa, executive director of the Human Sciences Research Council, who chairs
the commission on communication and infrastructure.
Broadly, his team, after extensive discussions and consultation, have
identified three key challenges in the sector: that of access and usage;
control and ownership; and the pressures of globalisation, especially where
indigenous talents are undermined.
Khosa says that the commission has come up with "Africa First" programmes
that will look at how, for example, jobs can be created while local
communities are empowered.
"In Africa, a lot of the infrastructure is built by big companies who are
often from outside the continent," he says.
"We believe that developing and using local skills must be a key part of any
project." Initial suggestions include the setting up of a resource or
knowledge centre which will act as a repository for original works from the
continent.
Another is that a directory of African experts be set up so that
professionals, no matter where they are, can be called on to fill in the
skills shortage of the continent.
A website set up by the South African branch is expected to be launched soon
and will be one of the ways to maintain global and continental links, Khosa
says. He says that the ideas are not "airy-fairy" as, for each suggestion,
someone had to do the research to test its feasibility.
Harnessing the resources of business, especially the private sector, and
converting them to the idea of a stable and prosperous Africa being good for
business, is one of the key tasks of the economic commission, says Thandile
Nxumalo, of Women's Investment Portfolio Capital, who heads that team.
"Economic recovery is important for every single one of us," and how
economic growth is translated so that "the ordinary man on the street"
benefits through job creation projects is important, she says.
How to use indigenous knowledge systems and existing resources as well as
how to make capital more accessible are some of what her team has been
looking at.
"In Africa, there is vast mineral and agricultural wealth. Instead of
exporting the raw materials, we can look at how we on the continent can add
value to what we produce instead of simply selling products abroad." Nxumalo
says that systems like stokvels can also be explored as avenues for finance.
Whatever the practical steps being taken, instilling a broad movement across
the continent to promote the ideals of a renaissance will definitely take a
long time, given the continent's enormous problems.
Dr Francis Kornegay, who is currently the Bradlow Fellow at the South
African Institute for International Affairs, warns against the African
renaissance merely being seen as "feel-good" Pan Africanism.
"Rebirth and renewal will inevitably be a rather painful process," Kornegay
says, adding that the African renaissance tends to be seen as a "linear
progress of positive developments", which he warns will then only be
"utopian and a sham".
"The African renaissance will have as much to do with upheaval as with other
exciting developments," he says.
He adds that "Africa is now at a different stage in a different global world
and South Africa is a major player on the continent." These factors are
likely to give more impetus to the idea of a renaissance.
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List Members,
May be somebody can help me to find an answer to these
questions i keep asking myself.During all this problem about
Ebrima Barry´s dead, I have not read it in any newspapers what
has happened to his teacher.I might get it wrong by believing that
the teacher also has played an important roll in the dead of
Ebrima.If this whole thing was a war, then i would say he was the
first one who pulled the trigger.It was mentioned in the first articles
about Ebrima that the teacher was a Sierreleonian and yesterday
or a day before it was said that the teacher was a Nigerian.In this
case the nationality of the teacher is irrelevant.No teacher has a
right to instigate such things be a Gambian or none Gambian.I´m
glad that the authorities are doing every thing to bring the officers
involved to the book.This should concern all Gambian because I for
one have tried a couple of times to enrol my friend´s child in this
very school Forster´s.So what happened to Ebrima could easily
happen to my friend´s child or to anybody.
Below are the questions I keep asking myself :
( 1 ) Why the teacher didn´t report Ebrima to the principle
( Forster )if Ebrima had disobeyed him ?
( 2 ) Why didn´t the teacher go to the Brikama police station ?
( 3 ) Did he underrate the officers at Brikama police station ?
( 4 ) Why did the teacher go to the Brikama fire service ?
( 5 ) What is the teacher´s relation to the Brikama fire service ?
( 6 ) Why didn´t the officers at the fire service tell the teacher to
report the matter to the right place ( Brikama police station )
and fill a complain form if there was anything to complain for ?
( 7 ) Why the teacher hasn´t been arrested ?
( 8 ) Is the teacher totally innocent ?
I will definitely appreciate it if someone can come with answers so I
can get these questions off my chest.
Thank you for your attention.
And as our belove sister Ndey Jobarteh would say:
THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES!!!!
Kibily.
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HARARE, Zimbabwe (PANA) - The Zimbabwean parliament has passed a =
controversial land reform bill empowering the government to seize =
white-owned farms to resettle land-less blacks without paying adequate =
compensation.=20
The law compels Britain, Zimbabwe's former colonial master, to honour a =
pledge it made at independence in 1980 to fund the transfer of =
white-owned farms to peasant black farmers.
"The former colonial power has an obligation to pay compensation for =
agricultural land compulsorily acquired for resettlement through a fund =
established for the purpose," the bill, enacted Thursday, states.
"If the former colonial power fails to pay compensation through such a =
fund, the government of Zimbabwe has no obligation to pay compensation =
for agricultural land compulsorily acquired for resettlement," it adds.
Britain, which has been locked in a diplomatic war of words with =
Zimbabwe over the land reform issue in recent weeks, immediately denied =
responsibility to finance the controversial programme.
Thousands of government supporters, led by veterans of Zimbabwe's =
independence war, have forcibly occupied hundreds of white farms since =
March to press demands for equitable land redistribution.
White farmers control most of the country's best farmland while their =
peasant black counterparts remain overcrowded in areas with infertile =
soils.
President Robert Mugabe has made land reform his main campaign issue in =
parliamentary elections scheduled for May, and has resolutely defied =
international pressure for restraint on the matter.=20
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farms to resettle land-less blacks without paying adequate compensation. =
<P>The law compels Britain, Zimbabwe's former colonial master, to honour =
a=20
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white-owned farms=20
to peasant black farmers.
<P>"The former colonial power has an obligation to pay compensation for=20
agricultural land compulsorily acquired for resettlement through a fund=20
established for the purpose," the bill, enacted Thursday, states.
<P>"If the former colonial power fails to pay compensation through such =
a fund,=20
the government of Zimbabwe has no obligation to pay compensation for=20
agricultural land compulsorily acquired for resettlement," it adds.
<P>Britain, which has been locked in a diplomatic war of words with =
Zimbabwe=20
over the land reform issue in recent weeks, immediately denied =
responsibility to=20
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Yahya, I am glad that, by having a friendly exchange of thoughts/views, we are successfully narrowing the gap in regards to how to approach the issue of "unreadable" posts. While I understand your point about promoting diversity, we can still promote these by posting in English. Secondly, English is indeed our accepted medium of communication not because we chose so, but because it is the language that the overwhelming majority of us have in common. And I am still of the opinion that a person that is not willing to accept this fact has no place on the L.
Finally, I guess my years in America have turned me into a bit of a stickler for conformity. But there is something to be said about having standards and order in any society, the L included. Anyway, it has been interesting reading your posts, and I commend you for engaging me in a dialogue that has opened my eyes to issues that I was previously unaware of.
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Sorry to hear about the death of your poor little puppy,he was only 3 but I
guess he was a significant part of you, his departure most feel like the
loss of a very good friend.
I hope once you've recovered from the initial emotions , you will have the
happy memories of him to keep for always.
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Goto
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Seringe & Amy Jarjusey,
Thank you for your reply which I really appreciate.Its good to hear
that I=B4m not the only one who has the roll of the teacher in mind all
alone. And to any concern Gambian who wants to say something
about the Issue can please send it to the Gambia-L so that we can
discuss it opendly. As you can see I have forwarded the mail due
to some errors with the List address when I tried to send it
yesterday in a normal way.I=B4m looking forward to hearing from
many concern Gambians and none Gambians.
Have a great weekend.
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Hi, there, not a Gambian, but I love reggae, will visit your site later! If
the storms don't get her first...
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> Goto
> http://www.gambiansonline.com/golmusic.htm
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> selection would range from the best African beats to
> you name it. We'll keep you posted.
> Thanks Everyone For The Support
> GEORGE SARR, Gambiansonline.com
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Kibily, I don't think that anyone can blame the teacher for the tragic series of events that happened after Ebrima was handed over to the law. He had no way of foreseeing what was to happen next, and no disrespect to the deceased, but there are circumstances when the law has to be called to control unruly students. The real culprits here are the law enforcement authorities and the people that have tried to cover-up this atrocious crime. The law enforcement authorities and, more recently, the army have always had a reputation of being extremely cruel to suspects, whether guilty or not. I vividly remember the late Sgt. Kujabi repeatedly head butting and slapping suspects as his method of interrogation. Usually the suspect would confess immediately just out of fear for his or her own life. I witnessed grown men getting whipped by overzealous police officers and also heard stories about cases where the suspects were shocked with live electric wires. To make the issue worse, J!
awara disbanded the field force and formed the GNA, and they too started to violate the human rights of the average Gambian. Just based on this brief history, one can clearly see that the problem is a human rights issue and average Gambian's apathy towards this alarming trend. No one deserves to be beaten, tortured or killed without a fair trial in a court of law.
What irks me the most is the ambiguity of the autopsy report that is published in the Independent newspaper. This is an excerpt from the report that describes the official cause of death:
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On the Cause of Death, the report cites 'Infaret of the right lung located in the middle lobe and base with severe hemorrhagic necrosis. Severe edema of both lungs. Acute respiratory insufficiency, Hepatic esteatosis.'
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As you can see, one has to be a doctor to figure out what the cause of death is. I even tried using a dictionary to look for the meanings of infaret and estatotis. The language used to describe the cause of death was not put in layman's terms simply because someone wants to cover up what transpired.
The time has come when we to confront these human rights abuses. We can no longer afford to sit back and watch while the humans rights of innocent civilians are being infringed upon by the very people that are supposed to protect us. The news media should stop regurgitating these verbatim reports from official sources, and instead start launching their own investigative reports. Independent, are you listening? In addition, we the Gambian public should abandon this "laissez-faire" attitude and start being more vigilant about these abuses. Perhaps and independent, non biased investigative team should be started to investigate reports of abuses by the military, and also to figure out ways of curbing this disturbing trend. In the meantime, God bless our beloved country.
Yus
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According to the GRTS RADIO NEWS: FRIDAY 7TH APRIL 2000,
"The Justice Secretary Pap Ousman Cheyassin Secka has said that the Gambian
constitution will soon be revisited with a view to amending sections that are
deemed necessary. Mr Secka made this revelation while on a visit to the NBD as
part of a familiarisation tour of judicial and penal institutions around the
country, and to get first hand information on the state of affairs of the
judicial system. During the tour various district authorities expressed the
wish to be appointed directly by the head of state instead of going through
election processes."
Are these district authorities afraid that they will loose their positions
because people will not vote for them?
This reminds me of the "no election" campaigners of 1996.
Momodou Camara
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George:
your site is wonderful, and I did approach you once to build one for me. Congratulations on your work. However, I believe your initial reaction to Latjor's comments was too harsh. Take it as constructive criticism, look into the matter, and let's move on!
Amadou Scattred Janneh
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Press Release No. 00/26=20
April 5, 2000 International Monetary Fund
700 19th Street, NW
Washington, D.C. 20431 USA=20
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IMF and IDA Support Debt Relief for Tanzania
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank Group's=20
International Development Association (IDA) agreed to support a comprehensiv=
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debt reduction package for Tanzania under the enhanced Heavily Indebted Poor=
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Countries (HIPC) Initiative. Total relief from all of Tanzania's creditors i=
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worth more than US$2 billion, which is equivalent to more than half of the=20
net present value of total debt outstanding after the full use of traditiona=
l=20
debt relief mechanisms. The IMF and IDA will start providing interim debt=20
relief in April.=20
The enhanced HIPC Initiative will help Tanzania to advance its poverty=20
reduction programs and stimulate economic growth. The debt reduction=20
operation will translate into debt-service relief over time of US$3 billion,=
=20
or about one-half of Tanzania's debt-service obligations during fiscal years=
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2001-2003 and about one-third of Tanzania's debt-service obligations=20
thereafter. This will create room for additional public expenditures on=20
poverty reduction. Tanzania's eligibility for debt relief under the enhanced=
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HIPC Initiative is a recognition by the international community of the=20
progress made in implementing economic reforms and achieving poverty=20
reduction.
The assistance committed by the IMF (of US$152 million) will be delivered=20
over a 10-year period, and will cover on average 58% of debt-service=20
obligations to the Fund. The debt relief provided by IDA (of US$1.2 billion)=
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will be spread over a period of 20 years, covering 69.1% of Tanzania's=20
debt-service obligations to IDA.
Tanzania will receive the bulk of the assistance under the enhanced HIPC=20
Initiative when it satisfies a number of conditions, including adoption and=20
implementation of a participatory poverty reduction strategy paper (see=20
Annex).
ANNEX
1. Tanzania
Track record
Tanzania has made substantial progress in implementing economic reforms.=20
During the past 4 years, inflation came down to less than 7%, after many=20
years of rates exceeding 20%, and the government has been repaying domestic=20
debt, after many years of borrowing in excess of 3% of GDP annually. Tanzani=
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including far-reaching reforms in the external, financial, and public sector=
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The full assistance from the IMF and IDA will be delivered to Tanzania when=20
the following conditions have been met:
Maintenance of a stable macroeconomic environment, as evidenced by=20
satisfactory performance under a program supported by an arrangement under=20
the IMF's Poverty Reduction and Growth Facility, and specific structural=20
reform measures in the areas of governance, government financial management,=
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utility performance.=20
Completion of a poverty reduction strategy paper through a participatory=20
process and a first progress report on the paper's implementation, both of=20
which need to be broadly endorsed by the Executive Boards of the IMF and the=
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World Bank. For this purpose, the government is currently carrying out a=20
dialogue with civil society, which is expected to take place in the next few=
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months. The government's interim poverty reduction strategy paper was=20
published on March 14, 2000.
Implementation of a set of other measures specifically related to poverty=20
reduction, including improvements in the poverty database and monitoring=20
capacity, provision of allocations in the budget for 2000/01 in line with=20
poverty reduction objectives, progress in school mapping, and progress on=20
immunization and implementation of the national spearhead campaign against=20
HIV/AIDS.
Confirmation of the participation of other creditors in the debt relief=20
operation.
2. General
The HIPC Initiative was launched by the World Bank and the IMF in 1996 as th=
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poorest, most heavily indebted countries. In October 1999, the international=
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increasing the number of eligible countries, raising the amount of debt=20
relief each eligible country will receive, and speeding up its delivery. The=
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the decision point to a maximum of 150% of exports and 250% of government=20
revenue, and will be provided on top of traditional debt relief mechanisms=20
(Paris Club debt rescheduling on Naples terms, involving 67% debt reduction=20
in NPV terms and at least comparable action by other bilateral creditors).
Eligible countries will qualify for debt relief in two stages. In the first=20
stage, the debtor country will need to demonstrate the capacity to use=20
prudently the assistance granted by establishing a satisfactory track record=
,=20
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will implement a full-fledged poverty reduction strategy, which has been=20
prepared with broad participation of civil society, and an agreed set of=20
measures aimed at enhancing economic growth. During this stage, the IMF and=20
IDA grant interim relief, provided that the country stays on track with its=20
IMF- and IDA-supported program. In addition, Paris Club creditors, and=20
possibly others, are expected to grant debt relief on highly concessional=20
terms. At the end of the second stage, when the floating completion point ha=
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debt relief, while Paris Club creditors will enter into a highly concessiona=
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stock-of-debt operation with the country involved. Other multilateral and=20
bilateral creditors will need to contribute to the debt relief on comparable=
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terms.
Thirty-six countries are expected to qualify for assistance under the=20
enhanced HIPC Initiative, of which 29 are sub-Saharan African countries. As=20
of early April 2000, four countries had reached their decision points under=20
the enhanced framework (Bolivia, Mauritania, Tanzania and Uganda), with tota=
l=20
committed assistance estimated at US$9.2 billion, representing an average=20
stock-of-debt reduction of about 45% on top of traditional debt relief=20
mechanisms. In addition, three countries had reached their decision points=20
under the original framework (Burkina Faso, C=C3=B4te d'Ivoire, and Mali), w=
hile=20
two others (Guyana and Mozambique) had already reached their completion=20
points. Total assistance under the HIPC Initiative committed to these five=20
countries amounted to US$5.4 billion, equivalent to almost 50% debt=20
reduction, and will be reassessed under the enhanced Initiative.=20
For more information on HIPC, visit:=20
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Mugabe delivers stern warning to Zimbabwe's white farmers
By Tony Hawkins in Harare - 7 Apr 2000 20:01GMT
Zimbabwe's president Robert Mugabe delivered his harshest warning yet to
beleaguered white farmers in a speech that may prove the start of the ruling
party's election campaign.
Accusing the 4,500 white commercial farmers of bankrolling a new opposition
movement ahead of an election due next month, Mr Mugabe said he supported
so-called war veterans who have occupied about 800 white-owned farms.
Speaking at a party rally at the farming and mining town of Bindura on Friday
Mr Mugabe said: "At last the people of Zimbabwe have acquired their sovereign
rights."
His speech followed the passage of a constitutional amendment paving the way
for the expropriation without compensation of white-owned farm land on
Thursday.
He warned whites that they would not be able to prevent the surrender of some
of their land.
"Have we now come to the position where they are determined to fight against
Mugabe and his government? If that is the case, I will declare the fight to
be on and we will win it," he said.
"The white man has not changed. I appeal for him or her to repent."
Businessmen warned that in the eyes of international investors Zimbabwe had
crossed the Rubicon.
The Commercial Farmers Union, which represents the country's largely white
commercial farmers, said it was "very concerned".
Although bankers and business leaders also declined to speak on the record at
so sensitive a time, there was no disguising the mood of gloom and
foreboding.
"This time, we really have put ourselves beyond the pale," said one
investment analyst, while others warned of deteriorating business and
consumer confidence between now and the elections which Mr Mugabe says will
be held next month.
Claims by government ministers that war veterans would now withdraw from the
farms they have been occupying were swiftly rebuffed by Chenjerai Hunzvi, the
veterans' leader.
"There is no reason for us to leave before the land belongs to us. We have
waited for so long," he said.
Mr Mugabe clearly sees land expropriation as his best - if not his only -
hope of winning the parliamentary elections. Government sources say they are
confident that once the ruling Zanu-PF party wins the election, the British
government will have to choose between an orderly land redistribution
programme and a further deterioration in an already anarchic situation.
They see the constitutional amendment as a tactic to force the international
donor community generally to finance land reform rather than risk economic
collapse in Zimbabwe.
But businessmen warn that Mr Mugabe's high-risk strategy will prove
counter-productive. Britain's stance on land has been supported by the US,
Holland, Norway and Sweden, which have frozen assistance for a pilot land
resettlement programme agreed in September 1998.
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Alieu Jammeh,
I also join Dr Saine, Sidi and others in congratulating you and wishing you
success in your future endeavours. I read the "abstract of your thesis" and
it suggests an interesting thesis.
Someone I know, Max Bankole Jarrett, one of the presenters of the BBC's
Network Africa programme, did a similar thesis as yours, a few years ago,
but his was submitted for an M.PHIL, not MA, if I remember well.
With your permission, I could forward the "abstract" to him and I am sure he
too would want to read it, and also the whole thesis if or when available,
since he himself is from Liberia.
Max, I must say, is well read, and although Liberia has produced countless
scholars, I for one consider him a leading specialist in Liberian Affairs.
By the way, a ground-breaking book "Mercenaries: An African Security
Dilemma" on the impact of private military companies on the security
situation in Africa, has just been published by Pluto Press.
Edited by Drs Abdel-Fatau Musah and J'Kayode Fayemi, both officials of the
London based Centre for Democracy and Development, the book examines
mercenary involvement in post-Cold conflicts.
I have just finished reading it, and I must say that it is a very relevant
contribution to conflict management in Africa. It is book worth reading. The
volumes examines the connections between African conflicts, the extraction
of minerals, and the use of private military companies. The countries
discussed include Sierra Leone, Zaire, Angola, Uganda and Congo
(Brazzaville).
And what is fascinating about the book is that it has brought together an
international array of contributors - some arguing in favour of military
companies/mercenaries on the African Continent, while others spoke against
it.
But in spite of their differences in opinions, all of them are united in the
view that "an understanding of this issue is critical for successful
peaceful conflict transformation in a region suffused with sectarian and
resource-driven conflicts."
To order the book, you can contact Pluto Press via e-mail:
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But I wish the price was cheaper!!! My copy, which is a hard cover, is
priced at £45 pounds. The price for the lighter cover, I believe, is £15.99.
And before I forget, I must mention to you (Gambia L) that a Gambian student
in Birmingham told me the other day, that I should visit the BBC Africa &
Middle East Web Page and read the Profile of Hassan Arouni, who is also a
Presenter of Network Africa.
But frankly, I was laughing that whole afternoon when I read what Hassan
said. He was asked, among other things, to name his favourite country for
vacation and he replied: "The Gambia". Anyway, that didn't surprise me at
all because I already knew he loves The Gambia.
Now further asked to name his favourite politician and he answered: "Yahya
Jammeh." He also gave his reason(s) for choosing Mr Jammeh.
Anyway, Gambia L, why not check
http://www.bbc.net.uk/worldservice/networkafrica/hassanarouni.htm and read
what Hassan Arouni said.
Hassan, by the way, is not only a friend but a genuine and kind hearted
brother also; however, I never knew he admired Yahya Jammeh, of all people,
as a leader. But then it's been a while since I last saw him. And needless
to say, Hassan is entitled to his opinion.
Ebrima Ceesay
PS: Omar Drammeh, I am glad that you did meet my cousin Alagi Taala. By the
way, your team, Chelsea, play Newcastle United tomorrow, in the other semi
final of the prestigious FA Cup. Will you clinch the FA cup this year?
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"Aqidah Islamic Information Service" Wrote on
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Aqidah Islamic Information Service - http://www.angelfire.com/journal/aiis
Assalamu aleikum.
The articles below come from the US-based Revolutionary Communist Party's
organ "The Revolutionary Worker" and are stronger than anything
yet written by major US Muslim organisations in defense of Imam al-Amin.
It should be a matter of great concern and deep shame for today's Ummah
that atheistic communists are stronger in defense of our imprisoned
brother than we ourselves.
Moreover, it must be recognised that failure to defend Imam al-Amin, apart
from the clear lack of brotherhood that such failure proves, also enables
secularist forces such as communism to seize the initiative and gain
strength at the expense of the Muslims. These articles prove the danger
that if the Ummah doesn't strongly defend Imam al-Amin, that the
communists and other secularists will try to co-opt his cause for their
own agendas. If they succeed, what will be our answer to Allah (S.W.T.) on
the Day of Judgement?
Please note that 2 articles follow:
- Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin in the Clutches of an Unforgiving System
- Carl Dix on the Persecution of Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin
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source:
Revolutionary Worker #1049
April 9, 2000
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Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin in the Clutches of an Unforgiving System
Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, a Muslim cleric and well-known activist from the
1960s, was captured by an army of FBI agents and police officials in rural
Lowndes Country, Alabama on March 20. He was run down by police dogs in an
Alabama meadow like a fugitive slave.
Al-Amin has now been charged with killing an Atlanta sheriff's deputy and
wounding another. Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard is expected
to demand the death penalty. At a federal court appearance in Alabama,
Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin declared that he is innocent of these charges. As
he was taken out of court in leg-irons, under armed guard, he said, "It's
a government conspiracy."
There is every reason to distrust all of the claims and charges made by
the authorities. The police activities surrounding Al-Amin have been quite
suspicious and their version of events has been full of holes.
Al-Amin's lawyer, civil rights veteran J. L. Chester, said, "He said he
did not shoot anyone. He said he did not have a gun. He fled Atlanta to
save his life. He said they had been trying to kill him for years."
Chester added that he believed Al-Amin was targeted "because he's a Black
man who has been fighting the system since he was 16 years old."
Al-Amin, 56, has been a target of the authorities his whole life, and
there is every reason to believe that he remains a target of the
authorities.
In the 1960s, when he was known as H. Rap Brown, Al-Amin was a militant
leader of the Black liberation struggle--known for his outspoken advocacy
of armed self-defense and inner city rebellions. He was targeted by the
FBI's COINTELPRO program. Congress passed a notorious law, the "Rap Brown
Amendment," specifically aimed at stopping Al-Amin and radical activists
like him from organizing resistance among the people. Rap was sentenced to
prison for his militant activities, where he served three years.
Since then, even as he embraced Islam and moved away from revolutionary
politics, Al-Amin has been persecuted repeatedly by police frame-ups and
attacks in Atlanta, Georgia, where he has been living.
Out Front and Fearless During the 1960s
H. Rap Brown was a student from a working class family in Louisiana who
cut short his studies to throw himself into the civil rights struggle
during the mid-1960s. He worked briefly for an anti-government program and
quit in disgust, saying that such programs were designed to buy off
activists emerging from the struggle. He became a leader of the most
militant of the southern civil rights organizations--the Student
Non-Violent Coordinating Committee (SNCC)--and participated in its
campaigns to organize Black people to overthrow Jim Crow segregation.
He and fellow SNCC leader Stokely Carmichael became spokesmen for the
radicalization of this movement--advocating anti-imperialism, Black Power
and a spirit of "by any means necessary."
Rap, who got his nickname for his powerful speaking style, became a symbol
for the rising revolutionary mood among Black people. He dared say what
needed saying. He strongly upheld the right of the oppressed to use
militant and even armed means to defend themselves and win liberation.
He was openly critical of movement leaders, like Martin Luther King Jr.,
who worked to confine the struggle of Black people to whatever was
acceptable to the U.S. ruling class.
As many young activists stopped upholding non-violence as an absolute
principle, they came under attack for this. Rap answered these
attacks--pointing out that Black people were fighting a system that had
used massive violence for centuries to keep them oppressed, and that was
using such violence on the other side of the world against the Vietnamese
people.
He mocked the hypocrisy of pro-system critics, saying, "Violence is as
American as cherry pie." This famous quote now appears in virtually every
article reporting on Al-Amin--as if this undoubtedly true political
statement was proof of his guilt in the Atlanta shooting 30 years later.
As powerful rebellions broke out in cities across the U.S. in the late
1960s, Rap Brown supported these uprisings--as a just and powerful form of
resistance. He tirelessly traveled the U.S., speaking on campuses and in
Black communities, organizing people to take the struggle higher. He
coined the phrase, "Burn, Baby, Burn!"
The Black Liberation Struggle was the greatest domestic challenge to the
U.S. capitalist/imperialist system in the twentieth century--and the
authorities targeted leaders like H. Rap Brown ruthlessly.
In secret, the FBI developed their "counter-intelligence program"
(COINTELPRO) into a country-wide campaign to disrupt radical organizations
and "neutralize" emerging leaders. Rap was pursued, harassed, spied on,
arrested, and targeted by covert operations.
One FBI memo called for writing unsigned letters to create distrust
between Stokely Carmichael and Rap Brown. Another FBI conspiracy was aimed
at creating bad blood between Southern-based SNCC and the Black Panther
Party that was emerging in California. The FBI was determined to prevent
the unification of revolutionary nationalist forces--and ceaselessly
worked to create divisions, mistrust and even violent feuds. Rap, who
actively supported an alliance of Black revolutionary forces, briefly
accepted honorary membership in the Black Panther Party in 1968.
These unification efforts ultimately collapsed under an intense-but-secret
FBI campaign.
In 1967, H. Rap Brown spoke at a Black community rally in Cambridge,
Maryland and proclaimed, "Black folks built America, and if America don't
come around, we're going to burn America down." A rebellion
followed--during which Rap was wounded in the forehead by a shotgun
pellet.. Several buildings were burned down. Rap Brown was charged with
inciting riot and arson.
When Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated in April 1968, over a hundred
rebellions broke out in Black communities across the U.S. Six days later,
the U.S. Congress passed the notorious "Rap Brown Amendment" which made it
illegal to cross state lines to "incite" rebellions. It was openly
designed to suppress and criminalize the militant views and activities of
H. Rap Brown and Black liberation activists like him.
Al-Amin was indicted for "conspiracy" and put on trial in New Orleans. One
observer wrote, "The courtroom was ringed with armed National Guards.
Every day you had to go through the military to get into the courtroom.
Every night Rap Brown would speak to crowds of 10,000 people in the Black
community. It was a city under a state of siege, practically."
Rap Brown went underground. During a countrywide manhunt, he was put on
the FBI's list of "10 most wanted." In 1971, he was finally captured in an
incident connected to an armed action against a New York City bar known
for its police connections and its distribution of hard drugs in the Black
community. Rap served six years in prison--where he converted to Islam and
took the name Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin. After leaving prison in 1976, he
moved to Atlanta's poor Black community of West End Park, where he
operated a grocery store, led a Muslim congregation and worked for
community improvements.
Even though Al-Amin stopped considering himself a revolutionary--he
remained unrepentant about his previous political activities. And he
remained a target of repeated intense attacks from police. As RCP Chairman
Avakian once said: "The people who run this system are completely
unforgiving."
Evidence of Government Targeting
Evidence has started to surface documenting the extent of previously
secret U.S. government targeting of Al-Amin. The Atlanta
Journal-Constitution reported that for at least five years during the
1990s, the FBI, ATF and Atlanta police carried out an intensive
investigation of Al-Amin and anyone they considered associated with him.
As part of their operations, the FBI had paid informants within Al-Amin's
Community Mosque. The Atlanta Police Department's Intelligence Squad
gathered information on over 130 people , many of them members of the
Mosque, and specifically focused on eight Muslim men that police
considered Al-Amin's "inner circle." This campaign of political police
also spied on Muslim circles in New York City.
The FBI conducted their spying operation as part of their country-wide
"anti-terrorism task force"--which continued the FBI's Cointelpro
operations in the 1980s and '90s. The Atlanta police conducted their
parallel operation under the guise of murder investigations.
Police never brought any charges against Al-Amin.
The Atlanta Journal Constitution wrote in its coverage of these government
spy operations: "Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin says the government is out to get
him. For at least five years in the 1990s, that was true."
In 1995, at the height of this political police campaign, Al-Amin was
arrested by a huge force including Atlanta's FBI Anti-Terrorist Task Force
and ATF agents--he was accused of shooting a man in the foot. This police
set-up fell apart when the man announced that the police had pressured him
into accusing Al-Amin.
A Suspicious Case from the Beginning
This current case against Al-Amin started as he was driving while Black in
Georgia's notoriously racist Cobb County on May 31, 1999. The cops stopped
him. They announced that the car (which he had legally bought a few months
before) was reportedly stolen. When Al-Amin got out his wallet, the cop
noticed a badge. Al-Amin had been made an honorary "auxiliary police
officer" from the town of White Hall, Alabama, where he had deep ties
reaching back to the civil rights days. It is a ceremonial badge given for
assisting in community events like parades or football games.
The racist police of Cobb County charged Al-Amin with driving without
proof of insurance, receiving stolen goods and impersonating a police
officer. The whole thing was absurd.
On March 16, the authorities announced that they were hunting Al-Amin.
They claimed that two sheriff's deputies had driven to West End Park to
serve Al-Amin a warrant for failing to appear in Cobb County court. Police
claim they did not find Al-Amin--but that shooting suddenly erupted.
The deputies fired at least ten rounds--and in the firefight, both
of them were hit. One later died.
Police announced that they had found a trail of fresh blood that went from
the scene to an abandoned house a block away. They launched a country-wide
manhunt for Al-Amin, saying that the surviving cop had wounded his
assailant in the stomach.
Four days, later, Al-Amin was captured in Alabama. Police were embarrassed
to discover that Al-Amin was not wounded and so could not have left the
trail of blood leaving the scene. Atlanta police spokesman John Quigley
quickly re-wrote the official explanation--now claiming that the trail of
blood was probably from some unrelated incident that same night, and
probably came out of the abandoned house, not into it, and so on.
The media has mocked the idea that this manhunt and arrest could possibly
be the result of a government conspiracy--as Al-Amin has charged.
Columnists and government officials insisted this is the "New South"--and
claim that a political persecution of Al-Amin is unlikely because of the
many Black people in high office in Atlanta--including the mayor and the
head of the Sheriff's department.
But in fact, the rise of "Black faces in high places" has not ended the
oppression of poor and working people across the Deep South. As Jim Crow
was legally abolished, the discrimination and exploitation of Black people
have continued, in both new and familiar forms. The impoverishment of both
rural areas and urban communities, the "separate but unequal" school
systems, the heavy and disrespecting tactics of the police, the continuing
exploitation in textile mills, factories, and in the fields--none of this
is gone, even though now some of it is administered by Black figures on
behalf of the system.
In interviews with the media, people in West End Park have spoken out
about the abuse they suffer constantly at the hands of the police. And, in
a vivid example of this, the police launched Gestapo-like raids on the
community on March 16. The police openly claimed that Al-Amin was probably
being shielded among the people--an admission of the respect and support
he was known to have both in Atlanta and in rural areas of Alabama. And
their attack at West End was both a manhunt and punishment of the
community. Police sealed off the community and a hundred cops with police
dogs went house to house--while helicopters aimed searchlights from above.
Since March 16, many people have spoken out in support of Al-Amin and
against the media hysteria that has attempted to demonize him and the
Black Liberation movement he once symbolized. Muslim leaders in Atlanta
issued a statement calling on the press not "to accuse, try and convict
Imam Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin."
A defense fund has been established, and legal forces have stepped forward
to help with Al-Amin's defense.
The RW will report on future developments in this important case.
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source:
The Revolutionary Worker
Revolutionary Worker #1049
April 9, 2000
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Carl Dix on the Persecution of Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin
Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rap Brown, is in the clutches
of the state, facing extradition from Alabama to Georgia. The authorities
say he killed a cop and attempted to kill another cop. This isn't the
first time the police have pursued this brother. In the late 1960s, police
departments in different parts of the U.S. were lining up to take a crack
at framing him up for the crimes of calling out Amerika for being the
violent oppressor that it was (and still is) and calling on the people to
rise up in righteous resistance to this oppression.
When Black people, enraged by brutal oppression, rose up and spread the
flames of rebellion from one end of the U.S. to the other, H. Rap Brown
stood firmly with the people. While the oppressors tried to suppress this
rage, with help from handkerchief head water carriers, Rap said, "Burn,
Baby, Burn!" Earlier, Rap had organized Black people in the South to
resist Jim Crow segregation and violent suppression by the KKK and
red-necked sheriffs. This brother has a long-respected history of standing
with the people against the attacks of the oppressors. This gives the
authorities a lot of reasons to want to go after him and punish him. The
people have as many reasons to want to uphold him and stand with him.
We don't know exactly what went down in the confrontation in Atlanta that
led to one cop being killed and another wounded. The authorities have
their propaganda machine working overtime to slander Jamil as a long-time
criminal and to try and convict him in the media before the facts come
out. They want to use their legal system to murder him. We already know
that their story has holes in it. Right after the confrontation, they said
the shooter had been wounded and even talked about following his blood
trail. Now that Jamil is in custody, and we can see that he wasn't
wounded, they're backing off that claim because it doesn't fit reality.
What other lies are they running in their attempt to get Jamil?
What stand we take on this case is critical. Jamil is locked
down in their dungeon. He has already said he's innocent, but he isn't in
a position to counter all the lies they're running and get his side of the
story out. It's crucial that we not buy into the story they're running and
fall for their game of trial by capitalist propaganda machine. Look at
what's coming out into the light of day about the LAPD. How those --------
framed up and even murdered innocent people. Look at how the cops and the
courts used lies to frame up Mumia and railroad him onto death row.
Look at how Mayor Giuliani and his N.Y.------ Dept. are lying about Patrick
Dorismond, the Haitian brother recently murdered by the cops. And I could
go on and on. After all these lies, why should we believe a damn thing
this system has to say.
In little more than a year, we've seen Tyisha Miller, Amadou Diallo,
Latanya Haggerty, Robert Russ, Gideon Busch, Malcolm Ferguson, Patrick
Dorismond and many, many more unarmed victims gunned down by cops. None of
the cops responsible for these murders are in jail. Most of them are still
out there, patrolling our hoods, with a badge and a gun. After all these
cases of people murdered for nothing, if Jamil defended himself against
some cops who stepped to him with murderous intent, that doesn't bother me
at all. As far as the capitalists who rule over us are concerned, they and
their enforcers can murder countless numbers of people, but if anyone
defends themselves against their murderous assaults, that person is
labeled a horrible criminal. We need to reject that logic.
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South African Bishop Calls For Solidarity With The Poor
South African Bishop Calls For Solidarity With The Poor
April 8, 2000=20
Ruth Nabakwe
PANA Correspondent=20
PARIS, France (PANA) - South African Bishop Kevin Dowling has called for =
making the concerns of the poor paramount in on- going efforts to forge =
a new solidarity for the global community.
He argues that changing their status holds the key to transforming the =
world for a better place for all.
Dowling was among key speakers at a conference-debate session at UNESCO =
headquarters Friday evening on the central theme: The Poor Transform the =
World.
The conference was organised by the International Catholic Centre for =
UNESCO, the Catholic Committee Against Hunger as well as the Catholic =
NGO, Friends of Life.
Dowling, who is also a member of the committee spearheading the Jubilee =
2000 coalition, highlighted the compelling necessity for =
debt-cancellation for third world countries.
As a way of drawing the world's attention to the effects of the =
strangling debt burden, Dowling gave an insight of the South African =
perspective showing what it meant to be poor under the erstwhile =
apartheid regime.
He said, with the arrival of Europeans in South Africa in 1652, it was =
assumed that they had a right to land. Therefore, a Natives Land Act =
that was passed in 1913 pushed the black majority to 13 percent of less =
fertile land termed reserves.
"Between 1960 and 1980, some four-and-a-half million black people were =
moved into the so called reserves, yet in the black African =
consciousness, land was the basis of the peoples identity, with the =
people sharing a strong kinship with all that the land provided.
Dowling underscored the critical issue of land in South Africa saying, =
"when you interfere with land in African consciousness it is a major =
issue as it touches on the dignity of the people."
"How are we to visit the graves of our ancestors, we have lost our land, =
blacks cried out during the struggles where justice and land struggles =
are inextricably linked in South Africa," Dowling noted.
He said with the new democratic government under Thabo Mbeki, a Property =
Rights Law was incorporated in the constitution where the people's land =
is now protected under the constitution.
He said the church is assisting government in the major challenge of =
sustainable use of the land in efforts to eradicate poverty.
Dowling said the minister for Lands in South Africa currently faces an =
enormous workload of processing a total of 63,000 land claims under the =
land re-distribution process.
The bishop stated that by February 2000, barely 789 claims had been =
processed, and with a staggering 300 million US dollars needed to =
process the claims, the process would take at least 59 years to to be =
completed.
Dowling said that despite the past setback of the apartheid era, the =
South African people emerged under a truth and reconciliation commission =
to reconstruct a new democratic country.
However, according to Dowling, what still remains a major challenge for =
the country is the urgency to meet the aspirations of the people through =
economic transformation for the blacks, majority still hounded by =
poverty.
A sense of anger at what the people see as injustice due to their =
continued poverty continues to stalk families who wonder whether in =
their search for truth, they sacrificed justice, the bishop added.
"It's a matter of social justice, it show the pressing need for debt =
cancellation, a measure that would enable millions of poor people see a =
marked improvement in their quality of life," Dowling noted.
He stated that the South African government also faces the double task =
of paying out reparation to thousands of apartheid victims through =
substantial financial compensation as called for under the country's =
reparations committee.
Dowling suggested that a kind of "solidarity pact" could be forged to =
compel corporate businesses to contribute toward a solidarity tax to =
help finance the reparations due to victims of injustice during the =
apartheid era.
"These corporate magnates continue to benefit at the expense of the poor =
who have yet to see their conditions change," he noted.
Meanwhile, participants at the meeting would join hundreds of others in =
a peaceful march 12 April in Paris to press for debt cancellation for =
poor countries.
Incidentally, the Paris Club of creditor nations would hold a meeting =
the same day at the French Finance ministry headquarters where the =
supporters of the debt cancellation demonstrators intend to make their =
final stop.=20
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<P>Ruth Nabakwe<BR>PANA Correspondent=20
<P>PARIS, France (PANA) - South African Bishop Kevin Dowling has called =
for=20
making the concerns of the poor paramount in on- going efforts to forge =
a new=20
solidarity for the global community.
<P>He argues that changing their status holds the key to transforming =
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for a better place for all.
<P>Dowling was among key speakers at a conference-debate session at =
UNESCO=20
headquarters Friday evening on the central theme: The Poor Transform the =
World.
<P>The conference was organised by the International Catholic Centre for =
UNESCO,=20
the Catholic Committee Against Hunger as well as the Catholic NGO, =
Friends of=20
Life.
<P>Dowling, who is also a member of the committee spearheading the =
Jubilee 2000=20
coalition, highlighted the compelling necessity for debt-cancellation =
for third=20
world countries.
<P>As a way of drawing the world's attention to the effects of the =
strangling=20
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showing=20
what it meant to be poor under the erstwhile apartheid regime.
<P>He said, with the arrival of Europeans in South Africa in 1652, it =
was=20
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that was=20
passed in 1913 pushed the black majority to 13 percent of less fertile =
land=20
termed reserves.
<P>"Between 1960 and 1980, some four-and-a-half million black people =
were moved=20
into the so called reserves, yet in the black African consciousness, =
land was=20
the basis of the peoples identity, with the people sharing a strong =
kinship with=20
all that the land provided.
<P>Dowling underscored the critical issue of land in South Africa =
saying, "when=20
you interfere with land in African consciousness it is a major issue as =
it=20
touches on the dignity of the people."
<P>"How are we to visit the graves of our ancestors, we have lost our =
land,=20
blacks cried out during the struggles where justice and land struggles =
are=20
inextricably linked in South Africa," Dowling noted.
<P>He said with the new democratic government under Thabo Mbeki, a =
Property=20
Rights Law was incorporated in the constitution where the people's land =
is now=20
protected under the constitution.
<P>He said the church is assisting government in the major challenge of=20
sustainable use of the land in efforts to eradicate poverty.
<P>Dowling said the minister for Lands in South Africa currently faces =
an=20
enormous workload of processing a total of 63,000 land claims under the =
land=20
re-distribution process.
<P>The bishop stated that by February 2000, barely 789 claims had been=20
processed, and with a staggering 300 million US dollars needed to =
process the=20
claims, the process would take at least 59 years to to be completed.
<P>Dowling said that despite the past setback of the apartheid era, the =
South=20
African people emerged under a truth and reconciliation commission to=20
reconstruct a new democratic country.
<P>However, according to Dowling, what still remains a major challenge =
for the=20
country is the urgency to meet the aspirations of the people through =
economic=20
transformation for the blacks, majority still hounded by poverty.
<P>A sense of anger at what the people see as injustice due to their =
continued=20
poverty continues to stalk families who wonder whether in their search =
for=20
truth, they sacrificed justice, the bishop added.
<P>"It's a matter of social justice, it show the pressing need for debt=20
cancellation, a measure that would enable millions of poor people see a =
marked=20
improvement in their quality of life," Dowling noted.
<P>He stated that the South African government also faces the double =
task of=20
paying out reparation to thousands of apartheid victims through =
substantial=20
financial compensation as called for under the country's reparations =
committee.
<P>Dowling suggested that a kind of "solidarity pact" could be forged to =
compel=20
corporate businesses to contribute toward a solidarity tax to help =
finance the=20
reparations due to victims of injustice during the apartheid era.
<P>"These corporate magnates continue to benefit at the expense of the =
poor who=20
have yet to see their conditions change," he noted.
<P>Meanwhile, participants at the meeting would join hundreds of others =
in a=20
peaceful march 12 April in Paris to press for debt cancellation for poor =
countries.
<P>Incidentally, the Paris Club of creditor nations would hold a meeting =
the=20
same day at the French Finance ministry headquarters where the =
supporters of the=20
debt cancellation demonstrators intend to make their final stop.=20
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Camarades,
Meditez ces quelques mots que mes amis Africains Americains m'ont envoyes.
Stay positive .Encourageons en ayant en tete que "Xippi surveille Sopi".
Restons unis et vigilants
Nous vaincrons
Massene
Subject: Fwd: The Power of the Tongue
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 09:39:46 PDT
> >Subject: Fwd: The Power of the Tongue
> >Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:36:08 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > Power of the Tongue
> > > > >
> > > > > A group of frogs were traveling through the woods,
> > > >and
> > > > > two of them fell into a deep pit. All the other
> > > >frogs
> > > > > gathered around the pit. When they saw how deep the
> > > > > pit was, they told the unfortunate frogs they would
> > > > > never get out.
> > > > >
> > > > > The two frogs ignored the comments and tried to jump
> > > > > up out of the pit. The other frogs kept telling them
> > > > > to stop, that they were as good as dead. Finally,
> > > >one
> > > > > of the frogs took heed to what the other frogs were
> > > > > saying and simply gave up. He fell down and died.
> > > > >
> > > > > The other frog continued to jump as hard as he
> > > >could.
> > > > > Once again, the crowd of frogs yelled at him to stop
> > > > > the pain and suffering and just die. He jumped even
> > > > > harder and finally made it out.
> > > > >
> > > > > When he got out, the other frogs asked him, "Why did
> > > > > you continue jumping? Didn't you hear us?" The frog
> > > > > explained to them that he was deaf. He thought they
> > > > > were encouraging him the entire time.
> > > > >
> > > > > This story teaches two lessons:
> > > > > 1. There is power of life and death in the tongue.
> > > >An
> > > > > encouraging word to someone who is down can lift
> > > >them
> > > > > up and help them make it through the day.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. A destructive word to someone who is down can be
> > > > > what it takes to kill them. Be careful of what you
> > > > > say. Speak life to those who cross your path.
> > > > >
> > > > > The power of words ... it is sometimes hard to
> > > > > understand that an encouraging word can go such a
> > > >long
> > > > > way. Anyone can speak words that tend to rob another
> > > > > of the spirit to continue in difficult times.
> > > > >
> > > > > Special is the individual who will take the time
> > > > > to encourage another. Be special to others. Send
> > > >this
> > > > > to someone you like.
> > > > >
> > > > > I DID.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________________
>
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This is a nice one, Fatou. Johan Cruijff, the great Dutch footballer is =
credited with saying that "There is always an advantage in =
discouragement" and I think that is exactly what your piece is saying. I =
hope some people will learn a lesson from it. Furthermore, the story =
fully interprets your intro.
Cheers
Prince=20
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Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:59 PM
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Camarades,
Meditez ces quelques mots que mes amis Africains Americains m'ont =
envoyes.
Stay positive .Encourageons en ayant en tete que "Xippi surveille =
Sopi".
Restons unis et vigilants
Nous vaincrons
Massene
Subject: Fwd: The Power of the Tongue
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 09:39:46 PDT
> >Subject: Fwd: The Power of the Tongue
> >Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:36:08 -0800 (PST)
> >
> > Power of the Tongue
> > > > >
> > > > > A group of frogs were traveling through the woods,
> > > >and
> > > > > two of them fell into a deep pit. All the other
> > > >frogs
> > > > > gathered around the pit. When they saw how deep the
> > > > > pit was, they told the unfortunate frogs they would
> > > > > never get out.
> > > > >
> > > > > The two frogs ignored the comments and tried to jump
> > > > > up out of the pit. The other frogs kept telling them
> > > > > to stop, that they were as good as dead. Finally,
> > > >one
> > > > > of the frogs took heed to what the other frogs were
> > > > > saying and simply gave up. He fell down and died.
> > > > >
> > > > > The other frog continued to jump as hard as he
> > > >could.
> > > > > Once again, the crowd of frogs yelled at him to stop
> > > > > the pain and suffering and just die. He jumped even
> > > > > harder and finally made it out.
> > > > >
> > > > > When he got out, the other frogs asked him, "Why did
> > > > > you continue jumping? Didn't you hear us?" The frog
> > > > > explained to them that he was deaf. He thought they
> > > > > were encouraging him the entire time.
> > > > >
> > > > > This story teaches two lessons:
> > > > > 1. There is power of life and death in the tongue.
> > > >An
> > > > > encouraging word to someone who is down can lift
> > > >them
> > > > > up and help them make it through the day.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. A destructive word to someone who is down can be
> > > > > what it takes to kill them. Be careful of what you
> > > > > say. Speak life to those who cross your path.
> > > > >
> > > > > The power of words ... it is sometimes hard to
> > > > > understand that an encouraging word can go such a
> > > >long
> > > > > way. Anyone can speak words that tend to rob another
> > > > > of the spirit to continue in difficult times.
> > > > >
> > > > > Special is the individual who will take the time
> > > > > to encourage another. Be special to others. Send
> > > >this
> > > > > to someone you like.
> > > > >
> > > > > I DID.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________________
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is a nice one, Fatou. Johan =
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discouragement" and I think that is exactly what your piece is saying. I =
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some people will learn a lesson from it. Furthermore, the story fully =
interprets=20
your intro.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
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.Encourageons en ayant en tete que "Xippi surveille Sopi".<BR>Restons =
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Some Gambian farmers are having second thoughts in selling their groundnuts
to the military dictatorship. The question I ask is: Were the farmers better
off under Sir Dawda, or are they better off under an illegal government that
lacks governance? Our farmers were lied to on numerous occasions by a
dictatorship that is unaware of the pain it has afflicted on Gambians. It is
a shame that the minister of agriculture is constantly lying to our farmers,
while he and the entire dictatorship are looting our treasury.
Our country has slowly moved to a totalitarian dictatorship where Gambians
are denied their basic rights to freedom. The illegal government also lacks
sound fiscal policies and as a result, unfavorable budget variances and
inequity in agency funding are the norms. The accountant general is an
individual who lacks ethics in administering sound accounting pronouncements
for the better maintenance of our country's appropriations. She is so
unethical that her judgments in variability, representative faithfulness,
comparability and neutrality should be a cause of concern for future
accountants.
With the recent death of young Barry at the hands of the firemen in Brikama
and the beating of one Mrs. Joof in Banjul, I wonder how long can we take
such blatant disregard of our basic inherent political rights and
responsibilities. Should we sit silent and let this nonsense continue on in
our country, or are we willing to extend an olive branch to Mr. Ousainou
Darboe and Mr. Sam Sillah of the United Democratic Party? Let us act now
before it is too late.
Long live democracy and down with dictator yahya jemus. Dictator yahya
jemus, let my people go.
Sincerely,
Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh: Greensboro, NC/Eastern Kombo District
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Ebrima,
It`s a pity that football matches are becoming scenes of carnage. What =
happened in Turkey is yet another manifestation of how rioting fans can =
always cause mayhem. Football hooliganism, invented in England has long =
travelled abroad, and as Euro 2000 fast approaches the co-hosts Belguim =
and The Netherlands must be having a big headache!
I`m looking forward to a Chelsea victory. Newcastle has put itself =
together for quite a while now, and they are capable of putting up a =
strong resistance, but Chelsea is enjoying some glorious days lately, =
and can break a mountain with the type of defence and attack they have. =
The Brazilian Emerson, seems to be feeling home already. I`m wishing =
them the best, and hope that they play in the finals.
Your team Arsenal have to watch it in Lens with that slim advantage. =
Lens are really good at home, and they have a habit of upsetting big =
teams. But then this might be home ground for the many French players of =
Arsenal too.
And The Gambia plays Morocco tomorrow. Is Chippo and Hadji gone to join =
the team? Lets pray for Sang and his lads. Good Luck, Good Luck!!!
Good night!
Regards,
Omar.
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Emne: Re: UEFA Champions League (basil, ebrima and all soccer =
enthusiasts)
>Omar, Basil, Yus, Joe
>
>Thanks for writing once again about soccer. As you may know, my team,
>Arsenal, is playing tonight with Lens of France, in the semi final of =
the
>other UEFA cup.
>
>So PLEASE watch out for them tonight and expect some partying on Gambia =
L,
>by tomorrow, God willing, that is if we win tonight.(laugh)
>
>We are without the suspended Thierry Henry and our effective Captain =
Tony
>Adams; but Dennis Bergkamp is fit and more importantly, the Nigeria =
Football
>Association has now allowed Kanu to play for Arsenal tonight, before =
joining
>the Nigerian Soccer Squad at the weekend, to play for his country, in =
the
>World Cup qualifying rounds.
>
>By the way, are you guys following the tragic developments in Turkey, =
in
>relation to the Leeds United/Galatastary match? Two Leeds United =
supporters
>were reportedly stabbed to death when a very serious violence erupted
>between Leeds fans and Galatastary supporters.
>
>The sad events in Turkey are dominating all the radio phone-in =
programmes
>here as I write this piece, but, as usual, xenophobia and narrow =
nationalist
>sentiments are evident in the remarks of most of the callers.
>
>When will the world do away with tribalism, regionalism, xenophobia,
>nepotism and all the rest of the "ism"?
>
>Ebrima
>
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Got milk trouble?
A few of my friends experience gastrointestinal or abdominal symptoms such
as nausea, gas,bloating, cramping and diarrhea,usually a few hours after
consuming milk products. They are experiencing LACTOSE INTOLERANCE.
In our small intestine we produce an enzyme called lactase which breaks down
lactose into simple sugars called glucose and galactose so that our bodies
can absorb it. Lactose is a complex sugar found in milk products and in some
processed foods. If our body does not have enough of the enzyme lactase then
the lactose is not digested. Instead, it is fermented by bacteria that live
in our colon, and broken down into fatty acids, hydrogen and methane. That's
what causes the gas, bloating and diarrhea.The severity of these symptoms
varies depending on the amount of lactose each individual can
tolerate.
There is no cure for lactose intolerance, but fortunately it is more of an
annoyance than a serious condition. However symptoms can be controlled
through diet. If you think you are lactose intolerant, i would suggest to
you to avoid dairy products such as pasteurised yogurt, milk and ice cream,
and to take calcium supplements such as tums, since milk is a primary
calcium source. One can also use lactase liquids or tablets to help digest
the lactose. A carefully chosen diet however is the key to reducing symptoms
and protecting future health. Talk to your doctor or dietician.
God Bless and Peace Be Upon All
Alasana Bah
Seattle, WA
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Dr. Janneh,
If I may, I would like to say thank you for the advice. I will use it
constructively and move on. And thanks for the compliment as well, very
nice of you. With this said, I would like to say that as we all reason, let's not forget that this situation would have been handled
professionally and maturely.Thus am not the only one at fault here.
Latjor should know better. This is a public forum NOT a 'gambiansonline
complain center'. If you read carefully Latjor's second posting you'll see
that this man was motivated to stir a negative vendetta against us. Trust
me am not blinded by any form of ego and I look at any constructive criticism as an opportunity to strive to do better. I have to admit my
first two comments from my initial posting can even make a rabbi lose his
temper, so yeah, maybe I was a little out of character. However, the thing
that irks me is to have someone to use me as a bait so he can tell the
world that " he has been building websites since 1995 and that he knew
about the internet long before Gambians know what 'www' was", is quite
a 'tasteless'innuendo and am sure you folks are far too smart for this
kind of nonesense. As I said before, I hold no grudges against anyone
on this List or a fellow Gambian for that matter and clearly if I offended
any one you got my sincere apology including Latjor. This forum or any
forum for that matter should be a place to make friends NOT enemies. So I
leave you all with this thought. Till next time take care of yourself and each other. We must learn to forgive and forget and move as brother Amadou said. May Allah bless us all with good hearts. Goodnight everyone.
I stand corrected,
Mr. Makaveli
Dr. Janneh Wrote:
George:
your site is wonderful, and I did approach you once to build one for me. Congratulations on your work. However, I believe your initial reaction to Latjor's comments was too harsh. Take it as constructive criticism, look into the matter, and let's move on!
Amadou Scattred Janneh
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Yus,
Even though I don=B4t agree with you totally, I still respect your
opinion. How could you said/ think that the teacher is not to be
blame of what happened to Ebrima Barry ? Are you trying to say
that the fire service would have arrested Ebrima regardless of the
teacher=B4s reporting ? Can=B4t you simple ask yourself about how did
the fire service get in the picture ? Don=B4t you think that if the
teacher hadn=B4t report Ebrima to the fire service, the fire service
wouldn=B4t have arrested Ebrima and if the fire service hadn=B4t arrested
him, then there wouldn=B4t be no torturing or killing. If Ebrima was
giving the teacher no end of trouble, then why didn=B4t the teacher
follow the school procedure? Which is reporting the case to the
principle. Even if the matter had been reported to the principle and
nothing was done about it, then the teacher should have taken the
matter to the Department of education. Forster=B4s school is an
institution under the Department of education like all the other
schools. I don=B4t think the problem between the teacher & Ebima
was a civil case but a disciplinary one. But even if it was a civil
case, the teacher was barging at a wrong tree. I =B4m not underrating
the fire service but if I=B4m not wrong , their duty is to put off the fir=
e
and assist the victims.We have the police to step in when the
matter is getting out of hand or someone is violating the law.
You=B4re talking about calling the law to control the unruly
students.Since when do teachers start calling the law to control
the students ? What about the good old method which was used
when you & I plus many others were going to school, which is to
suspend or expel a student for disobeying ? Rather suspension or
expulsion than torturing and killing a student. What bothers me a
lot is that what has the fire service to do with how to discipline a
student. I remember reading one of the newspapers that Ebrima=B4s
father went to the fire service and asked for his son=B4s whereabout
and the only answer he got from one of the senior officer was that
your son is rude. We will discipline him and shave his hair. CAN
YOU BELIEVE THAT ? Will shaving Ebrima=B4s hair make him a
better student ?
I remember fully that there were parents who reported teachers to
the police for beating their kids. And some family members even
took the law in their own hands and attacked the accused teacher
physically.But that also is out of proportion because two wrongs
don=B4t make right.I remember fully too that there was an officer at
Serrekunda police station whose method of welcoming people at
the station was a slap.I think you=B4re right with the name Kujabi and
because of he slapped people, he got this nick-name " obey and
complain ".You are also right with GNA because of my personal
experiences. I have several times withnessed some members of
the GNA in a uniform behaved in a way which no " officer or soldier
with different " should behave like that.About the GNA is another
topic which we can discuss next time because I am not a pro army.
You=B4re also right that the kind of expression of the autopsy report
that the doctor gave was and is still unclear to many people.Why
the doctor didn=B4t use the language or expression people will
understand instead of making people to rush to their dictionaries?
Finally I thank you for your concern and your maturity way of
discussing issues at hand without name calling or fauld play.
Kibily.
**Peace and respect**
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Judging by recent news accounts, illegal drug trafficking is no longer a
creeping societal menace. Instead, the nation has in it's hands a full blown
crisis. If one attributes much of the increased prosecutions or interdictions
on vigilant law enforcement particularly on the part of the drug squad, you
are left to wonder whether the sheer size or frequency of cases don't point
to a marked increase in the overall volume of drug dealing. From the seaport
to the airport not to mention at the numerous porous borders, police are said
to be seizing large volumes of drugs that seem to be headed to third
countries primarily in Europe. Over the years dealers have evolved a rather
sophisticated method of operation that relies on moving the drugs from
producer countries, taking them to transshipment countries and finally to
consumer nations. Typically the dealers look to small and strategically
located countries like those in the Caribbean for dealers interested in the
US market and West Africa for dealers angling for Western Europe. Countries
where there is a penchant for corruption and greed become particularly
susceptible as the dealers are more than willing to aggressively buy access
and influence. Even individuals who up until the drug proliferation have been
engaged in legitimate business may not be immune to the ever present desire
to make quick money relatively easily either through participation in
laundering transactions or serving as conduits during transshipment. Our
country fits this rather ominous bill and I fear the emerging trends point to
a nation at the cusp of being gradually overwhelmed by crime syndicates who
want to use Gambia as a major drug transshipment point by taking advantage of
the nation's weak capacity for law enforcement and overall border insecurity
and pervasive corruption. We don't frown on much less investigate folks who
display sudden wealth. Instead they can expect much adulation and respect
thus fueling the never ending myth that there is indeed easy and fast money
to made out there. Once we manage to get stuck with the dubious distinction
of being a major drug transshipment point, we will find out that it is almost
impossible to shake off such a label. Just ask the good people of Nigeria who
must endure humiliating treatment as they travel the world. Bad reputations
on nations are often like albatrosses; they persistently hang on the necks of
citizens. As a result a legitimate businessman who just wants to come to New
York or Madrid to buy merchandise for his store in Albert Market would find
himself subject to endless scrutiny for simple business visa application that
should be routine and automatic.
Consequently, list members I would suggest the government do two things
as a matter of urgency. First enact into law severe penalties that includes
mandatory sentences for those found guilty of possession, distribution and
laundering drug proceeds. The current laws are inadequate to serve as a
deterrent. Secondly the scope, training and resources of the drug squad has
to be vastly increased if the problem can even begin to be addressed. One way
to make the unit more effective is to reconstitute it to incorporate a marine
detachment that would be assigned through a defense department laison , a
similar detachment from customs specifically trained to look for drugs and a
phalanx of trained detectives all under the overall command of the director
of the drug squad. This would enable the unit to have better surveillance
especially at the airport and at the sea where the transshipments must occur.
The idea is to choke off the dealers ability to ship the drugs out of the
Gambia to the consuming markets assuming he has an easier time getting it in
through the porous border. While I do not underestimate the threat drugs pose
to our own people considering all the attendant problems of crime and other
ills drug consumption precipitates, the real incentive for these hideous
dealers is the richer overseas markets. We must slay this monster before the
nation is overwhelmed. The resources for a revamped drug squad should come
from existing government allocations. I would get it from two sources; from
the D60 million allocated to the Presidency over D3million of which is slated
to be paid to Yahya Jammeh as perdiem and personal allowances for the
nonsensical trips he makes the world over. The rest would be the entire
allocation for the N.I.A for fiscal 2000. They ought to be disbanded , and
be asked to hand in their radios and expensive cell phones and summarily
dismissed because they are up to no good other than hauling reporters and
other innocent civilians to their dingy offices to visit evil on them.
If we don't do anything soon, we will find ourselves run by drug kingpins.
Karamba
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Mr. Touray: Thanks for your recent posting, quite
scary and shocking. You've posted some very
interesting writings. I've been X'mly b-z and just
have enough time to browse thru the board recently. I
want add a couple of lines.
Are we going to sit here in cyberspace and hold
endless comments on the problem or are we going to
REALLY do something about it as Gambians. A time
comes in the life of every nation when there remains
only a few choices. And that time has arrived in The
Gambia.
It hurts to know that all the constructive comments
posted on this list are probably never delivered to
the appropriate recipients. Even assuming that they
get to it, it will be tossed in a garbage can coz
there is no force behind it. It also hurts that the L
is full of great intellects, some abroad holding PhDs
with amazing experiences with little or no
contributions to their country. Are we cursed or are
we fearful? When will we have amongst us, someone
with the courage of Nelson Mandela, the heart of Dr.
King, and the beliefs of Ghandi to lead us against
injustice and open up new light for all of us. Only
God knows. When will we be united for a common cause
that frees us all from political bondage and social
malpractices?
It's nice to read and enjoy these postings, but do we
ever think about our children. Have we paved a way
for our children or just a bush track that leads you
to the middle of nowhere. And not a map or prayer
would help you retrack your path.
WE NEED TO BE HEARD AND WE CAN ONLY DO SO THROUGH
COMING TOGETHER AS ONE.
Regards!
Essa
--- [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Judging by recent news accounts, illegal drug
> trafficking is no longer a
> creeping societal menace. Instead, the nation has in
> it's hands a full blown
> crisis. If one attributes much of the increased
> prosecutions or interdictions
> on vigilant law enforcement particularly on the part
> of the drug squad, you
> are left to wonder whether the sheer size or
> frequency of cases don't point
> to a marked increase in the overall volume of drug
> dealing. From the seaport
> to the airport not to mention at the numerous porous
> borders, police are said
> to be seizing large volumes of drugs that seem to be
> headed to third
> countries primarily in Europe. Over the years
> dealers have evolved a rather
> sophisticated method of operation that relies on
> moving the drugs from
> producer countries, taking them to transshipment
> countries and finally to
> consumer nations. Typically the dealers look to
> small and strategically
> located countries like those in the Caribbean for
> dealers interested in the
> US market and West Africa for dealers angling for
> Western Europe. Countries
> where there is a penchant for corruption and greed
> become particularly
> susceptible as the dealers are more than willing to
> aggressively buy access
> and influence. Even individuals who up until the
> drug proliferation have been
> engaged in legitimate business may not be immune to
> the ever present desire
> to make quick money relatively easily either through
> participation in
> laundering transactions or serving as conduits
> during transshipment. Our
> country fits this rather ominous bill and I fear the
> emerging trends point to
> a nation at the cusp of being gradually overwhelmed
> by crime syndicates who
> want to use Gambia as a major drug transshipment
> point by taking advantage of
> the nation's weak capacity for law enforcement and
> overall border insecurity
> and pervasive corruption. We don't frown on much
> less investigate folks who
> display sudden wealth. Instead they can expect much
> adulation and respect
> thus fueling the never ending myth that there is
> indeed easy and fast money
> to made out there. Once we manage to get stuck with
> the dubious distinction
> of being a major drug transshipment point, we will
> find out that it is almost
> impossible to shake off such a label. Just ask the
> good people of Nigeria who
> must endure humiliating treatment as they travel the
> world. Bad reputations
> on nations are often like albatrosses; they
> persistently hang on the necks of
> citizens. As a result a legitimate businessman who
> just wants to come to New
> York or Madrid to buy merchandise for his store in
> Albert Market would find
> himself subject to endless scrutiny for simple
> business visa application that
> should be routine and automatic.
> Consequently, list members I would suggest the
> government do two things
> as a matter of urgency. First enact into law severe
> penalties that includes
> mandatory sentences for those found guilty of
> possession, distribution and
> laundering drug proceeds. The current laws are
> inadequate to serve as a
> deterrent. Secondly the scope, training and
> resources of the drug squad has
> to be vastly increased if the problem can even begin
> to be addressed. One way
> to make the unit more effective is to reconstitute
> it to incorporate a marine
> detachment that would be assigned through a
> defense department laison , a
> similar detachment from customs specifically trained
> to look for drugs and a
> phalanx of trained detectives all under the overall
> command of the director
> of the drug squad. This would enable the unit to
> have better surveillance
> especially at the airport and at the sea where the
> transshipments must occur.
> The idea is to choke off the dealers ability to ship
> the drugs out of the
> Gambia to the consuming markets assuming he has an
> easier time getting it in
> through the porous border. While I do not
> underestimate the threat drugs pose
> to our own people considering all the attendant
> problems of crime and other
> ills drug consumption precipitates, the real
> incentive for these hideous
> dealers is the richer overseas markets. We must slay
> this monster before the
> nation is overwhelmed. The resources for a revamped
> drug squad should come
> from existing government allocations. I would get it
> from two sources; from
> the D60 million allocated to the Presidency over
> D3million of which is slated
> to be paid to Yahya Jammeh as perdiem and personal
> allowances for the
> nonsensical trips he makes the world over. The rest
> would be the entire
> allocation for the N.I.A for fiscal 2000. They ought
> to be disbanded , and
> be asked to hand in their radios and expensive cell
> phones and summarily
> dismissed because they are up to no good other than
> hauling reporters and
> other innocent civilians to their dingy offices to
> visit evil on them.
> If we don't do anything soon, we will find ourselves
> run by drug kingpins.
>
> Karamba
>
>
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Quelle pays gagne la match contre la Maroc et la Gambie cette semaine? Moi
je tres curieux.
Merci beaucou
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Ojukwu Raises Question Over Nigerian Unity
Ojukwu Raises Question Over Nigerian Unity
April 9, 2000=20
Paul Ejime
PANA Correspondent=20
LAGOS, Nigeria (PANA) - Former "Biafran" leader Emeka Ojukwu has lent =
his voice to the growing clamour by leaders of ethnic nationalities =
seeking a renegotiation of Nigerian unity.
"The only partnership that endures is the partnership where all the =
partners are happy. When one partner is not happy that partnership will =
not endure," Ojukwu, who led the Igbo in the unsuccessful rebellion =
during the country's 30-month civil war of 1967-70, said.
His speech at the eastern ethnic nationalities forum, held in Enugu at =
the weekend, comes in the wake of religious and ethnic eruptions =
threatening the corporate existence of Africa's most populous nation.=20
While the minorities have been alleging marginalisation and neglect, =
their compatriots from the three major ethnic groups of Hausa/Fulani in =
the north, Yoruba in the south-west and Igbo of the south-east, for =
different reasons, appear dissatisfied with the way things are going.
The background is that the north, accused by the other ethnic groups of =
having dominated leadership since Nigeria's independence from Britain 40 =
years ago, would prefer a retention of the status quo under its =
hegemony.=20
But since the military annulment of the 1993 presidential election in =
which Moshood Abiola, a Yoruba, claimed but was denied victory until his =
death in detention in 1998, his ethnic group feel short-changed.
They have been relentless in their call for a sovereign national =
conference to determine the corporate existence of Nigeria.
To advocates of this conference, it does not matter that President =
Olusegun Obasanjo, who is of Yoruba extraction, is currently heading the =
country's young democratic government.
For their part, the Igbo, claiming undue attacks on them during the =
recent Sharia crisis in the north, are calling for confederation.
Ojukwu is among those who feel the Igbo are carrying the "burden" =
sustaining the Nigerian federation, while some enjoy, what he calls the =
"paradise."
"The only thing," he said, "is that that paradise is carried on our =
backs. And carrying that is not comfortable for us and so we must =
complain."
Criticising those he said were trying to stop the Igbo from complaining, =
Ojukwu added that "It is in fact your happiness that provokes my =
complaint."
Lending his support to the confederation call by governors of the five =
south-east states, as a way of keeping Nigeria together, he said =
"perhaps, it is better to look at the confederation option, if nothing =
else, it is logical."
He said "in a democracy nobody should refuse people full freedom of =
thought," adding that "Sharia, as far as Nigeria is concerned today in =
the way it has gone, is tantamount to secession."
The governors of Nigeria's 19 Moslem-dominated northern states decided =
last week to suspend Sharia whose implementation or planned introduction =
has provoked protests resulting in hundreds of deaths in the region and =
reprisal attacks in eastern Nigeria.
But that decision has not halted the raging debate on renegotiating the =
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recent=20
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sustaining=20
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<P>"The only thing," he said, "is that that paradise is carried on our =
backs.=20
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decided last=20
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provoked=20
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attacks in=20
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You definitely raised some very pertinent questions. While it is very likely
that the teacher was overzealous in calling the law to the classroom to deal
with Ebrima, we need to ascertain what led up to this event. In the
teacher's defense, there are certain situations when a student can become so
unruly that the school cannot handle the situation and this usually means
that outside help (the law) is needed. Maybe this was the case on that
fateful day at Forster's Secondary school. Nevertheless, only in very
special circumstances should the law be called to deal with "school
situations." This should only happen in cases of violence, threats or
vandalism. For this reason, I would very much like to hear the teacher's
explanation of why he called in the "fire brigade." If the teacher is unable
to give a reasonable explanation for his action, he should be suspended or
perhaps dismissed from the school system.
However, my point is that situations where excessive force is used to
interrogate or discipline a suspect are not uncommon back home. To prove
this point, I gave examples that showed that this type of brutality has
always been prevalent in our society. If this tragic incident had not
happened to the deceased, some other poor soul would have suffered the same
fate. Unfortunately, it seems as if the same trend will go on. From the
autopsy report that was published in the Independent, the culprits have been
absolved of all blame. And, again, the Gambian public, with the exception of
the brave students from the college, has chosen to remain oblivious to this
alarming trend.
The crux of my point is that if we are to stop events like this from
happening in the future, we need to determine why this happened. We have to
attack the problem from the root. This will not be achieved by crucifying
the teacher. Instead, we need to reexamine these brutal methods that our law
enforcement authorities use and also figure out ways to curb this disturbing
trend. Until this is done, there will be more incidents like this.
Regards,
Yus
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Greetings,
I am hoping that one of the brilliant brains out there can come to my aid
with a Mandinka spelling query: Is there a preferred/"official" spelling
of the word for European? I have seen the following: tubab, tubabo,
tubaab, tubaabo, toubab, toubaab, toubabo, toubaabo!! also, if anyone
would happen to know which of these spellings is correct for Malian Bamana
("Bambara"). any advice is greatly appreciated by this humble student of
Mandinka. Thank you, Ylva Hernlund
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Hello, everyone, along those same lines, could someone help me with this...
I want to find resrouces for learning Wolof, Mandinka, and other languages
native to The Gambia. I've found some dictionaries, but those are totally
confusing to me, since I use screen reading software to use my computer (I'm
visually imapired and can't see the screen). My software, alas, cannot
handle the dictionaries, since in them, Ihaven't been able to find any
English... What I'm looking for is maybe a software program or something
like that, where I can hear the words and phrases being spoken, since that
would probably be the best way for me to learn them.
Anyway, help would be greatly appreciated....
Ginny
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> Greetings,
>
> I am hoping that one of the brilliant brains out there can come to my aid
> with a Mandinka spelling query: Is there a preferred/"official" spelling
> of the word for European? I have seen the following: tubab, tubabo,
> tubaab, tubaabo, toubab, toubaab, toubabo, toubaabo!! also, if anyone
> would happen to know which of these spellings is correct for Malian Bamana
> ("Bambara"). any advice is greatly appreciated by this humble student of
> Mandinka. Thank you, Ylva Hernlund
>
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Yvla,
The word "Toubabo" does not refer to European. It is for people with =
"white skin". Remember that there are also Nigger Europeans, some of =
whom are still struggling to achieve that name.=20
However, any of the words with an "O" at the end will do.
Cheers
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Greetings,
I am hoping that one of the brilliant brains out there can come to my =
aid
with a Mandinka spelling query: Is there a preferred/"official" =
spelling
of the word for European? I have seen the following: tubab, tubabo,
tubaab, tubaabo, toubab, toubaab, toubabo, toubaabo!! also, if anyone
would happen to know which of these spellings is correct for Malian =
Bamana
("Bambara"). any advice is greatly appreciated by this humble student =
of
Mandinka. Thank you, Ylva Hernlund
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The Gambia Resource webpage has Mandinka and Wolof dictionaries. The
dictionaries have sample sentences of the words they define and each of those
sentences are translated in English as well. You can visit the site at
http://persweb.wabash.edu/student/gajigoo/gambia/langabot.htm
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>Hello, everyone, along those same lines, could someone help me with this...
>I want to find resrouces for learning Wolof, Mandinka, and other languages
>native to The Gambia. I've found some dictionaries, but those are totally
>confusing to me, since I use screen reading software to use my computer (I'm
>visually imapired and can't see the screen). My software, alas, cannot
>handle the dictionaries, since in them, Ihaven't been able to find any
>English... What I'm looking for is maybe a software program or something
>like that, where I can hear the words and phrases being spoken, since that
>would probably be the best way for me to learn them.
>Anyway, help would be greatly appreciated....
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As you alluded to, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Drug smuggling has been going on back home for a long time. Without pointing fingers, I would like to point out incidents where certain businessmen who had shops in the "Tefess" district were getting awfully rich very quickly. Consequently, there were rumblings that these individuals were involved in drug smuggling. But because of a lack of experience in dealing with this type of activity, our authorities were unable to deal with such incidents. As a result, the smart drug dealers figured out that Gambia was an ideal place to smuggle drugs. Many businesses were just a cover for significant drug smuggling operations. Restaurants, bakeries, textile shops, companies that imported books for high schools, and car rental agencies were all some clever covers for the real activities of these unscrupulous characters. They were aided by custom officials that had a stake in this type of illegal business and, even worse, so!
metimes law enforcement officials and, yes, even government ministers were involved. More recently, there has been talk of direct involvement by the government in drug smuggling.
Then there is the issue of internal drug smuggling. During my younger days, it was very common for local dealers to make visits to the bush, as we called it, to procure drugs from farmers. These farmers figured very quickly that there was more money to be made growing and selling marijuana as opposed to rice or peanuts. The profits were great for the local dealers who were brave enough to make this trip.
However, while we cannot neglect the local problem, the real threat we face is from those that import hard drugs. The problem is not only with the importers, but it is more of a societal problem. If the government itself has been linked to this type of activity, the problem will not be solved. My belief is that these people that are being caught are just sacrificial lambs. The mentality is let's bust a few to make it seem as if something good is being done about the problem. But, on the other hand, the real flow of drugs is not being stemmed. Until there is significant change, I will remain a skeptic.
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Maroc as gagne.ca, c'est domage pour nous gambiens tous! c'est un zero pour
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Thanks very much for the info...
Ginny
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> The Gambia Resource webpage has Mandinka and Wolof dictionaries. The
> dictionaries have sample sentences of the words they define and each of
those
> sentences are translated in English as well. You can visit the site at
> http://persweb.wabash.edu/student/gajigoo/gambia/langabot.htm
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> >Hello, everyone, along those same lines, could someone help me with
this...
> >I want to find resrouces for learning Wolof, Mandinka, and other
languages
> >native to The Gambia. I've found some dictionaries, but those are
totally
> >confusing to me, since I use screen reading software to use my computer
(I'm
> >visually imapired and can't see the screen). My software, alas, cannot
> >handle the dictionaries, since in them, Ihaven't been able to find any
> >English... What I'm looking for is maybe a software program or something
> >like that, where I can hear the words and phrases being spoken, since
that
> >would probably be the best way for me to learn them.
> >Anyway, help would be greatly appreciated....
> >Ginny
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Mais cette resultat et vraiment domage. Je suis tres decu. Mais je pense que un deux semaine ma pays va gagner. Parce que La Maroc et une equipe tres forte, la defaite n'est past tres mal. Merci beucoup pour la resultat, Bas.
Vive Les Scorpion
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thank you for replying. i realize that it doesn't exactly MEAN
"European" but it is certainly the word I need in this context to describe
one. so, no preference for "ou" or "u," one "a" or two? thanks, Ylva
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Prince Obrien-Coker wrote:
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> Yvla,
>
> The word "Toubabo" does not refer to European. It is for people with "white skin". Remember that there are also Nigger Europeans, some of whom are still struggling to achieve that name.
> However, any of the words with an "O" at the end will do.
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> Cheers
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> Greetings,
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> I am hoping that one of the brilliant brains out there can come to my aid
> with a Mandinka spelling query: Is there a preferred/"official" spelling
> of the word for European? I have seen the following: tubab, tubabo,
> tubaab, tubaabo, toubab, toubaab, toubabo, toubaabo!! also, if anyone
> would happen to know which of these spellings is correct for Malian Bamana
> ("Bambara"). any advice is greatly appreciated by this humble student of
> Mandinka. Thank you, Ylva Hernlund
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Alh B.S.O.Jeng and family of 76 Lancaster street, Njie faml of Sam
jack,Faal Famliy, Nyang family of Gloucester ,NdOW family regret to
announce the death of Aji Maaimuna Faal which took place at the RV.H
this morning. Our condolence to Amie colley,Tejan of Norway, Ebou Jeng
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her soul rest in perfect peace. Amen.
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Dear Fatou :
The point here is, who is to be blamed for the down-fall of the
organization?
I think that the previous leaders of the organization should be
held responsible
for what ever happened to the organization. Every organization
requires
an effective leadership in order to function properly and to
obtain its´ objectives.
I can profoundly mention to you that the Gambian organization
has never had a
competent leadership.
What are the characteristics of a competent leader?
A: Supervisory abilities: The performance of basic functions of
management,
including planning, organizing, motivating, coordinating,
and controlling the
work of others.
B: Need for occupational achievement : The seeking of
responsibility and the
desire for success.
C: Intelligence : Creative and communication ability, including
judgement, reasoning
and thinking capacity.
D: Decisiveness : Ability to make decisions and solve problems
effectively.
E: Self confidence : Extend to which individual views himself or
herself as capable of
coping with problems.
F: Initiative: Ability to act independently and develop courses
of action not readily
apparent to other people. Self starter, be able to find new
innovative ways of doing
things.
RESPONSIBILITY:
Responsibility is an obligation to perfom work activity. The
leader must be available and
be capable of providing assistance and information to the
members when required.
He must be engaged in numerous activities essential towards the
success of the
organization. In this regard, responsibility is a felt
obligation. The degree to which a leader
feels the obligation to perfom is enhanced significantly if
responsibilities are clearly defined.
This brings us to " effective communication".
COMMUNICATION:
In order for members to get involved and participate as a team
to achieve the objectives
identified by the leader, they must have a clear understanding
of those objectives.
Communication is the transfer of information, ideas,
understanding, or feelings between
people. In every organization, especially the Gambian
organization, communication can
provide the means by which the objectives of the organization
may be accomplished in
a manner that benefits every Gambian in this community, even non
members. The behaviour
in which debates are to be held, programs, plans and other
activities to be implemented
must be communicated effectively and clearly to all the members
involved.
A common problem that affects the communication process is that
each person has a
different background, experience and objectives, especially with
in the Gambian communities.
It is very significant for the leaders of the Gambian
organization (OGIS) to realize that the
organization should be built on value, trust and confidence,
instead of having to deal
profoundly with "the money and the profits made." The money, the
money, the money, is
exclusively what i have been hearing about the gambian
organization ever since i left
the US and moved to Stockholm in 1986. The building of the above
mentioned qualities
may take some time to obtain, but it is vital to a resolution of
a crisis that it must be put into
immediate consideration. By winning the hearts of the Gambian
commnunity through
building value, trust and confidence, will the organization be
more effective in acquiring its´
objectives.
OBJECTIVES:
The organization must set up objectives that the members can
identify with. This can help
individuals identify ways of meeting their needs. Accomplishing
objectives can be reinforcing
in itself. Objective setting thus encourages and motivates
members to exert effort, and this way
be one of the most significant factors as far as managing a non
profitable organization is
concern. The objectives of the organization must be specified,
defined and implemented.
There must be time period limits set for these objectives as
well.
It is important for the organization (OGIS) to be more
proficient in dealing with issues like
democracy, transparency and accountability, in order to avoid
false impression, misunderstanding
and gossip. It must also be more dependent on the members. New
ideas should always be
encouraged and dealt with, democratically.
There have been some intellectuals who tried to manage the
organization previously, not realizing
that intelligence alone does not necessarily signify a competent
leader. Management requires
some of the skills and abilities mentioned above. I hope that
the reformation program that is
going on in the organization will be a successful one, that
provides the members and the rest
of the Gambian community in Sweden with value, trust and
confidence. Or the best Gambian
organization abroad ever existed.
Saul S.Jawara
Upplands Vasby
Sweden.
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> THIS PAPER WAS PRESENTED BY BROTHER BUHARRY AT THE GAMBIAN
ORGANISATION
> CONFERENCE IN STOCKHOLM SWEDEN, SUNDAY 2 APRIL 2000.FROM THE
ELECTORAL
> COMMITTEE.
> THANK YOU.
>
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> Från: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA
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> Datum: den 4 april 2000 22:11
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> The situation of Gambians in Sweden has since the
arrival of
> the first Gambians in the country not been an enviable one.
This is due to
> a variety of factors. Factors such as tribalism, sectionalism,
disunity,
> materialism, laze, greed, illiteracy etc. can be cited to have
been and
> continue to be strong impediments to Gambians' advancement
within the
> Swedish set-up. The attendant implication has been the
stagnation of
> Gambians within the society compared to other immigrant
groups. To address
> these issues and remedy the plight of Gambians, the
Organization of
> Gambians in Sweden (OGIS) was formed. The organization however
fell victim
> to the above vices plus mismanagement, political infighting,
embezzlement
> etc. from its very inception. This has rendered it incapable
of achieving
> the goals it was set up to achieve.
>
> Successive administrations have tried to rid the
organization
> of the vices that have kept it from realising its aims as
envisioned by its
> founders. The results of these attempts have however not been
impressive
> leading to the current attempt to find ways of building a
modern, effective
> and independent organization to address the concerns of the
Gambian
> community. Before jumping to the issue of trying to build such
an
> organization, an analysis of some of the problems that have
plagued the
> OGIS since its inception needs to be carried out.
>
> One of the major problems that the organization
has had deals
> with the lack of proper financial and accounting mechanisms to
handle the
> monetary and other assets of the organization. There is no
standard
> accounting system for the organization and every
administration comes with
> its own accounting system making it difficult for successive
> administrations to grasp the organization's financial
condition. This is
> coupled with the poor or non-existent system of receipt
collection and
> organization. This has resulted in the loss of thousands and
some even
> estimate hundreds of thousands of Kronor.
>
> Another problem that has plagued the OGIS is
impulsiveness and
> lack of planning. Activities with heavy financial implications
are
> undertaken without proper research and planning resulting in
heavy losses
> for the organization. These activities have ranged from poorly
planned
> cultural events to ineffective seminars to disastrous
children's activities
> with the attendant implications of not only monetary loss but
the erosion
> of the organization's credibility in the eyes of those whose
interests it
> is supposed to serve.
>
> The third problem that has plagued the OGIS is the
nonchalant
> attitude of its members towards the provisions of its
Constitution, the
> organization's guiding document. The Constitution defines the
procedures to
> be adhered to when dealing with various issues related to the
organization
> but these are nearly always ignored. This has resulted in many
problems for
> the organization. These problems have included arguments,
divisions, legal
> wrangling etc. resulting in a waste of the organization's time
and
> resources.
>
> The fourth problem that the OGIS has is its lack
of credibility
> in the eyes of the Gambian community. This is a major problem
as it has
> resulted in a steep decline in membership to the organization.
One of the
> reasons for the organization's lack of trustworthiness is the
lack of
> effective management especially in the financial realm. The
poor management
> of the financial aspects of the organization has resulted in
accusation
> upon accusation of financial misconduct thus undermining the
OGIS' stature
> in the Gambian community.
>
> Another of the OGIS' problems is the lack of
proper meeting
> procedures. This on the surface does not seem to be a major
problem but a
> closer investigation will reveal that it is indeed a very
serious problem.
> Poor handling of meetings resulting in disruptions, personal
attacks etc.
> makes it very difficult for the OGIS to address the real
issues crucial to
> its effective functioning as an organization.
>
> How can the OGIS be transformed into a modern,
effective and
> independent organization that will be able to identify and
effectively deal
> with the burning problems of the Gambian community? The first
step should
> be to make a comprehensive identification and analysis of the
> organization's problems. Some of the issues identified above
are important
> elements of the overall hindrances to the effectiveness of
OGIS as an
> entity but are by no means the only hindrances. Systematically
identifying
> and analysing the impediments to the organization's success is
a very
> important step and has to be carried out with meticulousness.
After an
> analysis has been done, ways of incorporating methods to
counter them in
> the future have to be woven into the organizational fabric of
the OGIS.
> This in short, amounts to change management, which requires
that an
> assessment of the required change is made and the mechanisms
required to
> manage it are created.
>
> The second step should be to revamp the
organization's
> accounting mechanism. A standard accounting system should be
adopted and
> all Treasurers should before being elected certify that they
understand and
> are able to work with the system. Efforts should be made to
acquire a
> computerised accounting system to ease the work. As the aim is
to create a
> modern organization, the previous backward accounting system
of making
> entries on pieces of paper and plastic bags, which cannot be
found when
> needed, should be abandoned. A requirement that all expenses
are requested
> using a request form and that receipts must be provided as a
rule for all
> expenditures should be implemented. This will not only improve
the
> organization's accounting system but it will also help restore
its
> credibility in the Gambian community.
>
> A Financial Committee should be formed. The role
of this
> committee will be to further strengthen the financial
regulations and
> methods of the organization by acting as a buffer between the
various
> committees and the Treasurer. All expenditure requests will be
handled by
> the committee and approved before being forwarded to the
Treasurer for
> dispensation. The committee will look at cheaper alternatives
and make
> suggestions regarding the request before authorising the
Treasurer to
> provide the funds. The committee will be provided with copies
of all
> receipts so that it can keep a separate accounting profile
that can be
> helpful to the Auditor when the Treasurer is being audited.
>
> To avoid the impulsive and oftentimes disastrous
spending of
> the organization's funds, the organization's overall
activities should be
> determined and budgeted for on a yearly basis. This will
ensure that all
> activities are strategically planned and looked into.
Strategically
> planning the activities of the organization will ensure that
their goals
> are determined, current and future situations are analysed and
that a
> strategic plan is produced. It will also give the Financial
Committee time
> to look at alternative prices and come up with suggestions.
This way,
> activities that are poorly planned will be avoided.
>
> A Legal Adviser conversant with the Constitution
should be
> elected. It will be the Legal Adviser's responsibility to
ensure that all
> activities carried out under the aegis of the organization are
in line with
> the provisions of the Constitution. The Legal Adviser will
also ensure that
> the inner workings of the Executive Committee conform to the
rules
> established by the Constitution.
>
> The fifth step should be to create a Public
Relations (PR)
> organ whose responsibility will be to recover the credibility
of the
> organization. The PR organ can be incorporated into the
existing committees
> or created as a separate entity. The PR organ should look at
ways of
> reviving the defunct newsletter, look into the possibility of
creating a
> homepage for the organization where all general, financial and
other
> information will be readily available to all members and the
general
> public. The PR organ should also work together with the other
committees to
> create activities to promote the organization and enhance its
stature in
> the Gambian community.
>
> The organization should also develop meeting
procedures. These
> procedures should be in the form of a booklet that will be
made available
> to all members so that they can behave properly during
meetings to ensure
> the effective use of time. The procedures should determine the
role of the
> chair and recorders, the floor etc. and identify group problem
solving
> techniques to help reach effective decisions.
>
> To create an independent organization, the OGIS
should not
> allow itself to be manipulated by organizations and
individuals whose
> interests are antithetical to those of its own. The Executive
Committee
> should ensure that the interests of the OGIS are paramount and
that any
> attempt to thwart the aspirations of the organization and its
members
> should be vehemently fought.
>
> The OGIS as has been seen has a myriad of problems
that have
> hindered it from effectively tackling the issues it was
created to tackle.
> In order for it to function as intended, these problems have
to be
> identified and remedied and proper procedures and mechanisms
put into
> place. Instituting new modus operandi based on the need to
create a modern,
> effective and independent organization will take a lot of
sacrifice and
> hard work but with dedication to the organization's ideals and
guided by
> transparency and probity, the desired results can be achieved.
>
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Ebrima Ceesay,
Thanks very much for having time to peruse through the abstract. You may
forward it to your friend, Max. I intend to you to donate a copy of the
whole thesis to the Gambia University soon. I should be able to do this
either through the post or by hand delivery when I am in the Gambia.
I will appreciate it too if your friend can kindly let me see the abstract
of his thesis. It may help to add to my knowledge. I will find time to read
the book, "Mercenaries: An African Security
>Dilemma". It should be interesting stuff.
Cheers
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Skal vi ogs=E5 nu begynde at skrive p=E5 de Skandinaviske sprog her
p=E5 Gambia-l? Jeg tror ikke det ville v=E6re mange det kan l=E6se hvis
vi g=F8re det:-)
Et elektronisk k=E6debrev, som i =F8jeblikket g=E5r verden rundt med
l=F8fte om en gratis WAP-telefon fra Ericsson har giver travlhed i
Ericssons svenske hovedkvarter
Stakkels "[log in to unmask]"!
Hvis hun ellers eksisterer m=E5 hendes e-post-indbakke v=E6re ved at
g=E5 over sine bredder.
Danmark og den =F8vrige verden d=F8jer i disse dage med et
elektronisk k=E6debrev, som opfordrer mailbrugere til at videresende
brevet til en halv snes bekendte - med cc-kopi til n=E6vnte Anna
Swelund. Til geng=E6ld for ulejligheden modtager man en splinterny
R320 WAP-telefon.
Men det er fup og fidus, fort=E6ller Helena Norrman fra Ericssons
hovedkvarter i Stockholm til avisen Sydsvenskan.
If=F8lge ordlyden skulle k=E6debrevet forsyne Ericsson med "v=E6rdifuld
kunde-feedback" og v=E6re ment som et modtr=E6k mod konkurrenten
Nokias projekt med at for=E6re mobiltelefoner v=E6k via Internet (d=E9t
brev er ogs=E5 fup og fidus).
Ikke bare Anna Swelund, men ogs=E5 andre Ericsson-ansatte er
blevet bombarderet med tusindvis af e-mails fra h=E5befulde, som
alts=E5 h=F8jst kan regne med at inkassere lange n=E6ser.
Med venlig hilsen,
Momodou Camara
On 9 Apr 00, at 21:53, Bassirou Dodou Drammeh wrote:
> Maroc as gagne.ca, c'est domage pour nous gambiens tous! c'est un zero p=
our
> les marocains.
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> Regards Bass
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Momodou,
Et sted g=E5r grensen.......HA ha ha! (joke)
There should be a limit to how far we can go with the use of language =
in this
forum.
Do you want to drive people crazy???? (Joke) "AHH YOW TAM"
Let's not exaggerate. French for a gambian is just a plus. And as you c=
an
notice, Yus is
remembering his French. Most of the gambians in this forum have a littl=
e
knowledge of French,
but scandinavian.......this should be reserved to us living in this par=
t of the
world.
Don't you agree Momodou????? By the way you are a good linguist...
Brotherly and friendly
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Danmark og den =F8vrige verden d=F8jer i disse dage med et
elektronisk k=E6debrev, som opfordrer mailbrugere til at videresende
brevet til en halv snes bekendte - med cc-kopi til n=E6vnte Anna
Swelund. Til geng=E6ld for ulejligheden modtager man en splinterny
R320 WAP-telefon.
Men det er fup og fidus, fort=E6ller Helena Norrman fra Ericssons
hovedkvarter i Stockholm til avisen Sydsvenskan.
If=F8lge ordlyden skulle k=E6debrevet forsyne Ericsson med "v=E6rdifuld=
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Nokias projekt med at for=E6re mobiltelefoner v=E6k via Internet (d=E9t=
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Ikke bare Anna Swelund, men ogs=E5 andre Ericsson-ansatte er
blevet bombarderet med tusindvis af e-mails fra h=E5befulde, som
alts=E5 h=F8jst kan regne med at inkassere lange n=E6ser.
Med venlig hilsen,
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Heldigvis er det en fiktiv e-post adresse, for jeg fikk en feilmelding
da jeg fosøkte å kopiere en mail til henne.
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Title: POLITICS: United Nations Fights Darker Side of Globalisation
By Thalif Deen
UNITED NATIONS, Apr 7 (IPS) - The United Nations is gearing itself
to fight the darker side of globalisation: the proliferation of
transnational crimes facilitated by open borders and free market
economies.
Secretary General Kofi Annan says there is an emerging new
"uncivil society" which has jumped on the band wagon of
globalisation purely to establish huge criminal networks cutting
across international borders. The UN, he points out, wants to be
in the forefront of this new battle against organised crime.
Annan will layout the UN's anti-crime plan at the opening Monday
of the Tenth UN Congress on the Prevention of Crime in Vienna,
Austria, Apr. 10-17.
The Secretary General says that open borders - brought about by
globalisation - have made it easier to launder money, traffic in
women and children, and smuggle drugs and arms.
The laws against all of these crimes will be tightened through a
proposed new UN Convention against Transnational Organised
Crime,
to be adopted during the Millennium Summit in September in New
York.
One of the primary areas the UN will focus on is the rise in
computer crimes triggered by the explosive growth of the
information superhighway, the Internet.
Currently, about 200 million people communicate, shop, pay bills
and conduct business through the Internet compared with 26 million
in 1995.
The UN says that this dramatic increase in computer users
worldwide has also spawned a new breed of crooks: "cyber
criminals" who roam the world of cyberspace largely at will,
committing such crimes as unauthorised access or "hacking",
fraud,
computer sabotage, drug trafficking, child pornography and cyber-
stalking.
"Cyber criminals can zoom across international borders undetected,
hide behind countless 'links' or simply vanish, leaving no paper
trail," according to the UN Manual on the Prevention and Control
of Computer-Related Crime.
"Computer criminals are as diverse as the offences they commit.
They may be students, terrorists or memberS of organised crime,"
the manual warns.
For economic crimes, such as fraud or the theft of information,
the biggest offenders are in-house employees, who commit over 90
percent of these offences.
According to recent estimates, consumers lose about 500 million
dollars per year to hackers stealing credit card and calling card
information from online accounts.
Addressing a UN Offshore Forum in the Cayman Islands last week,
UN
Under-Secretary-General Pino Arlacchi said that international
financial crime is not a new phenomenon. But the number of cases
and the amounts involved have now gone beyond what the world
community is prepared to tolerate.
Arlacchi, who is the Executive Director of the UN Office for Drug
Control and Crime Prevention, said a single case of money
laundering in Russia last year involved as much as 10 to 12
billion dollars, illegally obtained and then moved to a New York
bank for laundering.
"Hardly a day now goes without another case appearing in the
press," he said, "Figures in the tens of millions of dollars are
routine. And we are only hearing about those cases that are
caught."
Arlacchi said the single Russian money laundering case involved
a sum which was more than the entire annual gross domestic
product
(GDP) of Jamaica which, he said, was about 9.5 billion dollars in
1997.
"The amounts of money involved have become so large that they are
beginning to have a devastating impact on the economies of whole
countries," he warned.
The case of Nigeria is striking, he said, because the new civilian
government in that country is untangling, one by one, the schemes
and scams that milked billions of dollars from that potentially
rich country and brought its economy to its knees. Much of that
money, he said, found its way abroad to banks that chose not to
ask questions.
During the past decade, he said, technological advances have
simplified money laundering.
In 1995, the US government estimated that 300 million dollars in
laundered funds were being moved every day through electronic
transfers. Given the size of more recent cases, the figure has
increased considerably.
Arlacchi said criminal entrepreneurs have shifted from working in
unconnected regional markets to an increasingly integrated
worldwide market.
He said that with its limited resources, his office is assisting
governments in drafting legislation, training officials and also
advising them on specific cases. (END/IPS/ER/IP/td/da/00)
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Joe,
I am one of those unfortunate Gambians who did not have French
in school.
Perhaps we should start a mailing list which is strictly Norwegian,
Danish and Swedish:-) Those in Finland will have to use Swedish
because and I understand that most of them speak and understand
that language :-)
Thanks and have a great week!
Momodou Camara
On 10 Apr 00, at 11:31, Joe Ndiaye wrote:
> Momodou,
>
> Et sted g=E5r grensen.......HA ha ha! (joke)
>
> There should be a limit to how far we can go with the use of language i=
n this
> forum.
> Do you want to drive people crazy???? (Joke) "AHH YOW TAM"
> Let's not exaggerate. French for a gambian is just a plus. And as you ca=
n
> notice, Yus is
> remembering his French. Most of the gambians in this forum have a little
> knowledge of French,
> but scandinavian.......this should be reserved to us living in this part=
of the
> world.
> Don't you agree Momodou????? By the way you are a good linguist...
>
> Brotherly and friendly
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> Momodou Camara <[log in to unmask]> on 04/10/2000 11:03:14 AM
> Internet mail from:
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> Please respond to The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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> cc: (bcc: Joe Ndiaye/NOBRG/S/KM/KOG)
> Fax to:
> Subject: Ericsson-k=E6debrev er fup
>
>
>
>
> Skal vi ogs=E5 nu begynde at skrive p=E5 de Skandinaviske sprog her
> p=E5 Gambia-l? Jeg tror ikke det ville v=E6re mange det kan l=E6se hvis
> vi g=F8re det:-)
>
> Et elektronisk k=E6debrev, som i =F8jeblikket g=E5r verden rundt med
> l=F8fte om en gratis WAP-telefon fra Ericsson har giver travlhed i
> Ericssons svenske hovedkvarter
>
> Stakkels "[log in to unmask]"!
> Hvis hun ellers eksisterer m=E5 hendes e-post-indbakke v=E6re ved at
> g=E5 over sine bredder.
> Danmark og den =F8vrige verden d=F8jer i disse dage med et
> elektronisk k=E6debrev, som opfordrer mailbrugere til at videresende
> brevet til en halv snes bekendte - med cc-kopi til n=E6vnte Anna
> Swelund. Til geng=E6ld for ulejligheden modtager man en splinterny
> R320 WAP-telefon.
>
> Men det er fup og fidus, fort=E6ller Helena Norrman fra Ericssons
> hovedkvarter i Stockholm til avisen Sydsvenskan.
> If=F8lge ordlyden skulle k=E6debrevet forsyne Ericsson med "v=E6rdifuld
> kunde-feedback" og v=E6re ment som et modtr=E6k mod konkurrenten
> Nokias projekt med at for=E6re mobiltelefoner v=E6k via Internet (d=E9t
> brev er ogs=E5 fup og fidus).
>
> Ikke bare Anna Swelund, men ogs=E5 andre Ericsson-ansatte er
> blevet bombarderet med tusindvis af e-mails fra h=E5befulde, som
> alts=E5 h=F8jst kan regne med at inkassere lange n=E6ser.
>
> Med venlig hilsen,
> Momodou Camara
>
> On 9 Apr 00, at 21:53, Bassirou Dodou Drammeh wrote:
>
> > Maroc as gagne.ca, c'est domage pour nous gambiens tous! c'est un zero=
pour
> > les marocains.
> >
> > Regards Bass
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Yus,
I hereby strongly disagree with your position of exonerating the
school teacher from blame for the tragic death of Ebrima Barry, and
instead put the blame squarely on the law enforcement officers.This is
not only a misconstruction but also negligence on your part to assess
the situation that led Poor Ebrima, in the wrong hands, in the first
place.
The teacher is as culpable as any other individual for the tragic
death of a poor school boy striving to make ends meet.
You said that there was no way he could forsee the fate of Ebrima.
This is another negligent reasoning you brought forward to reason out
but you failed to analysed the reason why the teacher did not report
him to the headmaster for any disciplinary actions as is usually the
case? The reason why he failed to report him to the school authorities
and instead choose the fire service and not the police station is for
a hidden motive, which the school teacher alone is able to respond to.
Any investigations to be conducted, the teacher should be the first to
give account why he took Ebrima to the fire service and the
instructions therein he gave, if any.
With all due respect, with these assertions of yours, are unjust to
family and the deceased, who has been denied of his rights to
education by a school teacher and right to life, because of hatred and
other ill motives.
Haruna Farage
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Date: 4/7/00 11:19 PM
Kibily, I don't think that anyone can blame the teacher for the tragic series
ofevents that happened after Ebrima was handed over to the law. He had no way
of foreseeing what was to happen next, and no disrespect to the deceased, but
thereare circumstances when the law has to be called to control unruly students.
The real culprits here are the law enforcement authorities and the people that
have tried to cover-up this atrocious crime. The law enforcement authorities
and, mo re recently, the army have always had a reputation of being extremely
cruel to s uspects, whether guilty or not. I vividly remember the late Sgt.
Kujabi repeate dly head butting and slapping suspects as his method of
interrogation. Usually the suspect would confess immediately just out of fear
for his or her own life. I witnessed grown men getting whipped by overzealous
police officers and also heard stories about cases where the suspects were
shocked with live electric wires . To make the issue worse, J!
!
awara disbanded the field force and formed the GNA, and they too started to viol
ate the human rights of the average Gambian. Just based on this brief history,
one can clearly see that the problem is a human rights issue and average Gambian
's apathy towards this alarming trend. No one deserves to be beaten, tortured o
r killed without a fair trial in a court of law.
What irks me the most is the ambiguity of the autopsy report that is published i
n the Independent newspaper. This is an excerpt from the report that describes
the official cause of death:
Quote
On the Cause of Death, the report cites 'Infaret of the right lung located in th
e middle lobe and base with severe hemorrhagic necrosis. Severe edema of both l
ungs. Acute respiratory insufficiency, Hepatic esteatosis.'
Unquote
As you can see, one has to be a doctor to figure out what the cause of death
is.I even tried using a dictionary to look for the meanings of infaret and
estatotis. The language used to describe the cause of death was not put in
layman's ter ms simply because someone wants to cover up what transpired.
The time has come when we to confront these human rights abuses. We can no long
er afford to sit back and watch while the humans rights of innocent civilians ar
e being infringed upon by the very people that are supposed to protect us. The
news media should stop regurgitating these verbatim reports from official source
s, and instead start launching their own investigative reports. Independent, ar
e you listening? In addition, we the Gambian public should abandon this "laisse
z-faire" attitude and start being more vigilant about these abuses. Perhaps
andindependent, non biased investigative team should be started to investigate
reports of abuses by the military, and also to figure out ways of curbing this
distu rbing trend. In the meantime, God bless our beloved country.
Yus
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Subject: Africans In France Condemn Guinea For Human Rights Abuses
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Africans In France Condemn Guinea For Human Rights Abuses
Africans In France Condemn Guinea For Human Rights Abuses
April 10, 2000=20
PARIS, France (PANA) - The president of the Association of Guinean =
residents in France, Lancine Camara, has said the Guinean community, =
with support of other Africans and well-wishers, would stage protests =
Wednesday at the country's embassy in Paris to press for the immediate =
release of detained opposition leader Alpha Conde, a presidential =
candidate in 1998.
Conde is expected to appear in court Wednesday for the first time since =
his arrest in December 1998.
Camara, during a meeting of his organisation at the weekend, appealed to =
the participants to express their concerns against what he termed "a =
mockery of justice."
He said a petition will be delivered at the embassy during the protest =
highlighting on the need to release the Conde.
He noted that the petition will likewise be presented to the European =
Union, the French government as well as various human rights groups such =
as Amnesty International in order to rally support towards efforts to =
bring pressure to bear on the Guinean authorities to respect human =
rights.
He called for an end to the arbitrary detentions, as well as lack of =
respect for human rights in Guinea, perpetrated by President Lansana =
Conte's government.
Camara, who is also the president of the International Union of African =
Journalists in France, called for Conde's immediate release.
"We urge all organisations as well as governments and international =
human rights bodies to condemn the government action if Conte's =
government is to be part of an international community that is fast =
embracing respect of human rights as the fundamental element in =
relations between states," he said.
Participants at the meeting, who included African journalists, called =
for the creation of a Pan-African Congress to monitor as well as defend =
the human rights of each African state.
In an era when the world community should have drawn lessons from the =
Pinochet affair, it is sad that some countries such as Guinea want to =
pull their countries back in the respect of human rights, the =
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what the hell is going on in banjul?students being shut at,and brutally
beaten for demonstrating for which they have a just cause.i think is time
for jemus jammeh to go,his time is up.we need to find a way to get the
students involve in the voting process.we need to start encouraging them to
vote.what do you all think?
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> Yus,
>
> I hereby strongly disagree with your position of exonerating the
> school teacher from blame for the tragic death of Ebrima Barry, and
> instead put the blame squarely on the law enforcement officers.This
>is
> not only a misconstruction but also negligence on your part to assess
> the situation that led Poor Ebrima, in the wrong hands, in the first
> place.
>
> The teacher is as culpable as any other individual for the tragic
> death of a poor school boy striving to make ends meet.
>
> You said that there was no way he could forsee the fate of Ebrima.
> This is another negligent reasoning you brought forward to reason out
> but you failed to analysed the reason why the teacher did not report
> him to the headmaster for any disciplinary actions as is usually the
> case? The reason why he failed to report him to the school
>authorities
> and instead choose the fire service and not the police station is for
> a hidden motive, which the school teacher alone is able to respond
>to.
>
> Any investigations to be conducted, the teacher should be the first
>to
> give account why he took Ebrima to the fire service and the
> instructions therein he gave, if any.
>
> With all due respect, with these assertions of yours, are unjust to
> family and the deceased, who has been denied of his rights to
> education by a school teacher and right to life, because of hatred
>and
> other ill motives.
>
> Haruna Farage
>
>
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>Subject: Re: Re: What happened to Ebrima Barry's teacher ?
>Author: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>Date: 4/7/00 11:19 PM
>
>
>Kibily, I don't think that anyone can blame the teacher for the tragic
>series
>ofevents that happened after Ebrima was handed over to the law. He had no
>way
> of foreseeing what was to happen next, and no disrespect to the deceased,
>but
>thereare circumstances when the law has to be called to control unruly
>students.
> The real culprits here are the law enforcement authorities and the people
>that
>have tried to cover-up this atrocious crime. The law enforcement
>authorities
>and, mo re recently, the army have always had a reputation of being
>extremely
>cruel to s uspects, whether guilty or not. I vividly remember the late
>Sgt.
>Kujabi repeate dly head butting and slapping suspects as his method of
>interrogation. Usually the suspect would confess immediately just out of
>fear
>for his or her own life. I witnessed grown men getting whipped by
>overzealous
> police officers and also heard stories about cases where the suspects
>were
>shocked with live electric wires . To make the issue worse, J!
>!
>awara disbanded the field force and formed the GNA, and they too started to
>viol
>ate the human rights of the average Gambian. Just based on this brief
>history,
>one can clearly see that the problem is a human rights issue and average
>Gambian
>'s apathy towards this alarming trend. No one deserves to be beaten,
>tortured o
>r killed without a fair trial in a court of law.
>
>What irks me the most is the ambiguity of the autopsy report that is
>published i
>n the Independent newspaper. This is an excerpt from the report that
>describes
>the official cause of death:
>
>Quote
>On the Cause of Death, the report cites 'Infaret of the right lung located
>in th
>e middle lobe and base with severe hemorrhagic necrosis. Severe edema of
>both l
>ungs. Acute respiratory insufficiency, Hepatic esteatosis.'
>Unquote
>
>As you can see, one has to be a doctor to figure out what the cause of
>death
>is.I even tried using a dictionary to look for the meanings of infaret and
> estatotis. The language used to describe the cause of death was not put
>in
>layman's ter ms simply because someone wants to cover up what transpired.
>
>The time has come when we to confront these human rights abuses. We can no
>long
>er afford to sit back and watch while the humans rights of innocent
>civilians ar
>e being infringed upon by the very people that are supposed to protect us.
>The
>news media should stop regurgitating these verbatim reports from official
>source
>s, and instead start launching their own investigative reports.
>Independent, ar
>e you listening? In addition, we the Gambian public should abandon this
>"laisse
>z-faire" attitude and start being more vigilant about these abuses.
>Perhaps
>andindependent, non biased investigative team should be started to
>investigate
> reports of abuses by the military, and also to figure out ways of curbing
>this
>distu rbing trend. In the meantime, God bless our beloved country.
>
>Yus
>
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Mr. Camara,
Those in Finland also have to used Finnish Not Swedish. I will send my =
postings in Finnish and Russian, because most of our Finnish Friends =
also can speak and understand Russian.
Tervehdys
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Joe,
I am one of those unfortunate Gambians who did not have French
in school.
Perhaps we should start a mailing list which is strictly Norwegian,
Danish and Swedish:-) Those in Finland will have to use Swedish
because and I understand that most of them speak and understand
that language :-)
Thanks and have a great week!
Momodou Camara
On 10 Apr 00, at 11:31, Joe Ndiaye wrote:
> Momodou,
>
> Et sted g=E5r grensen.......HA ha ha! (joke)
>
> There should be a limit to how far we can go with the use of language =
in this
> forum.
> Do you want to drive people crazy???? (Joke) "AHH YOW TAM"
> Let's not exaggerate. French for a gambian is just a plus. And as you =
can
> notice, Yus is
> remembering his French. Most of the gambians in this forum have a =
little
> knowledge of French,
> but scandinavian.......this should be reserved to us living in this =
part of the
> world.
> Don't you agree Momodou????? By the way you are a good linguist...
>
> Brotherly and friendly
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> Momodou Camara <[log in to unmask]> on 04/10/2000 11:03:14 =
AM
> Internet mail from:
>
> Please respond to The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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> cc: (bcc: Joe Ndiaye/NOBRG/S/KM/KOG)
> Fax to:
> Subject: Ericsson-k=E6debrev er fup
>
>
>
>
> Skal vi ogs=E5 nu begynde at skrive p=E5 de Skandinaviske sprog her
> p=E5 Gambia-l? Jeg tror ikke det ville v=E6re mange det kan l=E6se =
hvis
> vi g=F8re det:-)
>
> Et elektronisk k=E6debrev, som i =F8jeblikket g=E5r verden rundt med
> l=F8fte om en gratis WAP-telefon fra Ericsson har giver travlhed i
> Ericssons svenske hovedkvarter
>
> Stakkels "[log in to unmask]"!
> Hvis hun ellers eksisterer m=E5 hendes e-post-indbakke v=E6re ved at
> g=E5 over sine bredder.
> Danmark og den =F8vrige verden d=F8jer i disse dage med et
> elektronisk k=E6debrev, som opfordrer mailbrugere til at videresende
> brevet til en halv snes bekendte - med cc-kopi til n=E6vnte Anna
> Swelund. Til geng=E6ld for ulejligheden modtager man en splinterny
> R320 WAP-telefon.
>
> Men det er fup og fidus, fort=E6ller Helena Norrman fra Ericssons
> hovedkvarter i Stockholm til avisen Sydsvenskan.
> If=F8lge ordlyden skulle k=E6debrevet forsyne Ericsson med =
"v=E6rdifuld
> kunde-feedback" og v=E6re ment som et modtr=E6k mod konkurrenten
> Nokias projekt med at for=E6re mobiltelefoner v=E6k via Internet =
(d=E9t
> brev er ogs=E5 fup og fidus).
>
> Ikke bare Anna Swelund, men ogs=E5 andre Ericsson-ansatte er
> blevet bombarderet med tusindvis af e-mails fra h=E5befulde, som
> alts=E5 h=F8jst kan regne med at inkassere lange n=E6ser.
>
> Med venlig hilsen,
> Momodou Camara
>
> On 9 Apr 00, at 21:53, Bassirou Dodou Drammeh wrote:
>
> > Maroc as gagne.ca, c'est domage pour nous gambiens tous! c'est un =
zero pour
> > les marocains.
> >
> > Regards Bass
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Alieu,
I'll forward your abstract to Max and in turn ask him to send you an
abstract of his thesis directly.
Ebrima Ceesay
Omar Drammeh, Wow! Another FA cup final for your inspirational Chelsea side.
By the way, the English media loves Gianluca Vialli, the Chelsea manager,
and in all the papers today, especially the Tabloids, he was being praised
for the good job he is doing at Chelsea.
I myself like Vialli's demeanour; he always calculates what to say and how
to say it. He is an A-Class diplomat, I must say.
And what about Gustavo Poyet? Always dangerous in the air! His head must be
as solid as a rock.
Yes, you are right, Arsenal have got to watch Lens at home. Lens always do
well at home. And I understand Olivier D'acourt of Lens who missed the first
leg, because of injury, will play in the return leg.
Dacourt, although not yet in the French squad, is rated as one of the best
midfield defenders in Europe. And offensively, he is also dangerous. He
couldn't settle in the English Premiership when he played for Everton, but
he is certainly a talent.
Did you hear that French soccer legend Jean Amadou Tigana has been appointed
as the new coach of the London West-End based Fulham Football Club, which is
in the English First Division?
The Egyptian-born multi millionaire, Muhammed Al Fayed, who owns Fulham and
the famous Harrods Stores in London, is paying Tigana £1.5 million pounds
per year, thus making him the highest paid manager in England.
Alex Fergusson of Manchester; Arsene Wenger of Arsenal; George Graham of
Tottenham; Vialli of Chelsea; Houlier of Liverpool; and Bobby Robson of
Newcastle were the highest-paid managers here, but none reached £1.5 million
per year. Each gets not more than £1.3million per year.
Anyway, let us wish Tigana success in his new job, which takes effect 1 July
2000.
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>Ebrima Ceesay,
>
>Thanks very much for having time to peruse through the abstract. You may
>forward it to your friend, Max. I intend to you to donate a copy of the
>whole thesis to the Gambia University soon. I should be able to do this
>either through the post or by hand delivery when I am in the Gambia.
>
>I will appreciate it too if your friend can kindly let me see the abstract
>of his thesis. It may help to add to my knowledge. I will find time to read
>the book, "Mercenaries: An African Security
>>Dilemma". It should be interesting stuff.
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Alieu
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This is from the Financial Times interactive.
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S&P warns of debt defaults
By Aline van Duyn in London - 9 Apr 2000 21:00GMT
The fragile fiscal and foreign exchange positions of Ivory Coast, Romania and
Zimbabwe may lead to debt defaults by those countries this year, according to
Standard & Poor's, the rating agency.
Private sector creditors may also be affected in Indonesia and Nigeria by
having to share the cost of any debt restructuring with official lenders, S&P
says in a study issued on Monday.
The threat of default by these countries coincides with a slight fall in the
number of governments defaulting on their debt repayments. S&P's study shows
that in the first quarter of this year 27 issuers - including Russia - were
in default on various types of bond and bank debt, compared with 29 in 1999
and 33 in 1998.
"The dollar value of defaulted obligations now looks set to fall below last
year's, given the pace at which debt workouts are being completed," said
David Beers, managing director of sovereign ratings at S&P.
The value of defaults stands at around $66bn. This is small compared to the
trillions of dollars of debt outstanding in the capital markets. Mr Beers
said the impact on the global financial system of any defaults by Romania,
Ivory Coast and Zimbabwe would be limited because of the relatively small
amounts of debt involved.
Ivory Coast may be the first to go into default. It has around $7bn
outstanding in Brady bonds, restructured debt which is backed by US
government debt.
Bankers said last week that the Ivory Coast, scene of a coup in December,
still has to make a $3m payment due this month to avoid falling into arrears
on interest payments, meaning it could technically be in default as soon as
next month.
Zimbabwe, where political violence has flared ahead of elections expected in
May, does not have any bonds outstanding so a default would affect only bank
debt. Romania, which has been struggling with a balance of payments crisis
and has not issued bonds since 1997, is rated C - sub-investment grade - by
S&P.
The International Monetary Fund has put pressure on countries restructuring
debt to include both private and public-sector lenders, in "burden-sharing",
and this could affect lenders to Indonesia and Nigeria this year.
Indonesia, which meets its official Paris Club lenders this week, has around
$700m outstanding in bonds and $2bn in bank loans. Mr Beers said a
burden-sharing restructuring might affect only bank loans.
Nigeria is a slightly different case because it may ask for its outstanding
Brady debt, originally rescheduled in 1992, to be revised again to include
further debt forgiveness. The sharp rise in the oil price, which has
benefited Nigeria as an oil-exporting economy, may weaken its case for
further writeoffs.
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You have completely taken me out of context: My statement was:
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Kibily, I don't think that anyone can blame the teacher for the tragic series
of events that happened AFTER Ebrima was handed over to the law
Unquote
The teacher, in my opinion, would not be convicted of the more serious charge
of 'murder one' in any fair court of law. Yes, he might have stepped out of
the realms of his authority by calling in the fire brigade and by putting a
precious life in a compromising situation. But before we jump to conclusions
and emphatically state that he had a hidden agenda in doing this, it is
necessary to ascertain directly from the horse's mouth why the deceased was
handed over to the police? If he was justified, then he should be duly
absolved of all blame. Otherwise, he should be disciplined accordingly by
the school board or charged with indirect complicity in Ebrima's death.
This said, it is important to prevent such tragedies from happening in the
future. To do this, we have to zero in on the law enforcement authorities
that abuse the human rights of the very people they are supposed to protect.
It is quite unfortunate in the year 2000, we still refer to law enforcement
as "the wrong hands."
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Comfirmed news coming to me from The Gambia indicate that at least eleven
students have been shote and killed during a demosntration organized by the
Gambia Student Union (GAMSU). Reportedly a journalist was also killed.
You may call The Gambia and find out. These kids are our brothers and
sisters, they don't deserve to die like dogs!
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Yus,
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Gambia-L:
Comfirmed news coming to me from The Gambia indicate that at least eleven
students have been shot and killed during a demosntration organized by the
Gambia Student Union (GAMSU). Reportedly a journalist was also killed.
You may call The Gambia and find out. These kids are our brothers and
sisters, they don't need to die like dogs!
Hamadi.
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Yus,
Upon seeing the e-mail you forwarded on behalf of Hamadi, I called the BBC
African Service and one of the senior producers, Richard Lee, confirmed to
me that there was a demonstration in the Gambia today, concerning students,
as a result of which some students were killed by the Soldiers.
According to Richard Lee, 11 people were killed, and five of them are
confirmed to be students. One of the deceased was a Red Cross volunteer and
the rest were civilians, Richard added.
He couldn't confirm whether a journalist was among those killed. But he said
the situation was now said to be under control, according to the BBC
correspondent in the Gambia.
The students demonstrations were said to be started by GTTI students, but
there were disturbances Banjul, Brikama and Kanifing. Anyway, I'll work on a
more detailed story if someone has not sent something comprehensive by
tomorrow. These killings also need to be put in some context, inshallah!
Ebrima
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I have also heard the same news from very reliable sources from home. This
is indeed a very sad day in the history of the Gambia. I am utterly shocked
at the apparent lack of any respect for human life in the Gambia these days.
I am very close to tears trying to fathom the loss the families and friends
of these poor helpless students, who were so heartlessly butchered, are
going through. If this abhorrent act of inhumanity can be directed on
innocent defenseless students, then no one is/will ever be safe in the
Gambia until we cut out the cancer that is eating our country. All Gambians
should unite and make sure that those responsible pay for this act of
brutality. My heart goes to the families and friends of the deceased and may
their souls rest in peace.
YNjie
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Gambia-L Community:
This is tragic! If these reports are accurate, (and I have no reason to
doubt them) it attests to Jammeh's and his regime's insecurity. This
act of brutality must be condemned universally. The slaying of these
individuals was callous and unnecessary.
I suggest we begin an email petition drive to be signed by all who wish
to condemn this act of barbarism and sent to Jammeh. For those of you
who have the necessary computer skills, please get one started.
And to the families of the slain, my heartfelt condolence.
And please participate in the letter writing campaign for free and fair
elections in 2001.
Abdoulaye Saine
No justice, no peace!
ebrima ceesay wrote:
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> Yus,
>
> Upon seeing the e-mail you forwarded on behalf of Hamadi, I called the BBC
> African Service and one of the senior producers, Richard Lee, confirmed to
> me that there was a demonstration in the Gambia today, concerning students,
> as a result of which some students were killed by the Soldiers.
>
> According to Richard Lee, 11 people were killed, and five of them are
> confirmed to be students. One of the deceased was a Red Cross volunteer and
> the rest were civilians, Richard added.
>
> He couldn't confirm whether a journalist was among those killed. But he said
> the situation was now said to be under control, according to the BBC
> correspondent in the Gambia.
>
> The students demonstrations were said to be started by GTTI students, but
> there were disturbances Banjul, Brikama and Kanifing. Anyway, I'll work on a
> more detailed story if someone has not sent something comprehensive by
> tomorrow. These killings also need to be put in some context, inshallah!
>
> Ebrima
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This is really tragic and I was completely speechless when I spoke to someone
who confirmed the news.
This trend of burying healthy people six feet deep has to be stopped by all
means.
My condolences to the families of the murdered students. It is really a dark
day in the history of The Gambia!
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Monday, 10 April, 2000, 19:11 GMT 20:11 UK
Six dead in Gambian protests
There has been a day of violent student protests in and around the Gambian
capital, Banjul.
At least six people are reported to have been killed.
Police have now restored order and are patrolling the streets.
Correspondents say the police used tear gas and rubber bullets after
students attacked and looted property belonging to telecommunications and
media companies - one post office was completely destroyed.
The national hospital has been appealing for blood donations to help treat
the injured.
The demonstration was sparked off by anger over an alleged rape of one
student by a police officer, and the alleged torture of another by members
of the fire service.
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FROM THE MIMBAR OF HOLY HARAM IN MAKKAH AND MADINA
(Friday, April 7, 2000)
MUSLIMS URGED TO LEARN FROM PROPHET'S MIGRATION
Sheikh Abdul Rahman Al-Sidais, Imam and Khateeb of the holy Haram in Makkah
has called on Muslims to fear Allah as He should be feared. This is the
only way they can attain the ultimate goals of existence as true servants of
Allah.
As the new Hijrah has begun, Sheikh Al-Sidais in his Friday sermon at the
Holy Mosque in Makkah on April 7, 2000 reminded them of the historical
significance of Hijrah. He said that Muslims should always remember that
Hijrah was a landmark in the history of man ushering in a new era. This was
demonstrated by the victory of the Ummah of Islam over the evil tendencies
that pervaded the entire world. The Islamic Shariah, which had been made to
stand the test of time, was the divine instrument in this regard.
He said that the Prophet's migration from Makkah to Madina, which marked the
beginning of the Hijrah calendar, was an event which Allah ordained to be a
path to victory and glory and upholding the banner of Islam, building its
state and erecting the monument of its culture.
Sheikh Al-Sidais explained that this great event embodies countless signs
and great lessons which if the Muslim Ummah of today allow themselves to be
inspired by it would be in better position to restore the past strength and
glory of their religion, Islam.
Sheikh Al-Sidais asserted that the Muslim Ummah can never solve its problems
or reform its general circumstances, unless Muslims go back to Allah and
stick to their Islamic belief. He added that the glory of the Muslim Ummah
lied in upholding the Tawheed (monotheism) and that any weakness in this
regard will shake the Muslim and weaken their strength.
Meanwhile, Sheikh Abdul Mohsen Al-Qasim, Imam and Khateeb of the Prophet's
Mosque in Madina, urged Muslims to obey Allah covertly and overtly, and
subject their individual activities to proper scrutiny.
In his regular Friday sermon at the Prophet's Mosque in Madina, Sheikh
Al-Qasim said that continued change in the conditions of man, makes him feel
his weakness and need to depend on Allah.
He added that such change is a trial to the believer who is exposed to
ordeals, disease and sadness. He explained that a true believer feels that
he is a stranger in this world, and so he is neither carried away by happy
mood over prosperity nor is he carried away by sadness or misfortune.
He said that life without religion is full of misery and that the happiest
people are those who turn away from the pleasure of this world while the
most miserable people are those who allow themselves to be carried away by
the material pleasure of this world and forget the Hereafter.
Sheikh Al-Qasim said that on the occasion of the end of the Hijrah year,
people have to remember that their life in this world will soon be over, and
so they have to prepare themselves for that day when they will pass away and
meet their Lord for retribution.
He added that the people who occupy the highest ranks on the Doomsday are
those who fear Allah in this world, and he told Muslims that the best
provision for the hereafter are the righteous deeds, saying that the prudent
man is that who overcomes his personal whims and is always mindful of death.
He said that visiting the graves and washing the dead people revitalize the
hearts and makes the Muslims remember the inevitable fate.
Sheikh Al-Qasim concluded his Friday sermon by saying that the happiest
people are those who make provision from this world in readiness for the
eternal abode, and the worst people are those who depart the material world
with heavy load of sins.
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"Our Lord! Bestow on us from our wives and our offspring who will be the
comfort of our eyes, and make us leaders of the Muttaqun (the pious)". (The
Holy Qur'an, Surat Al Furqan, 25:74).
"Our Lord! Avert from us the Wrath of Hell, for its Wrath is indeed an
affliction grievous". (The Holy Qur'an, Surat Al Furqan, 25:65).
"O! Lord show me the right path, protect me against the evils in me, bless
me with what You have endowed me, grant me from Your own bounty. Surely,
You are the Most Generous. Forgive me all the sins I have committed in the
past and in the present and those that I have committed secretly and openly.
O! The Lord of the worlds and the Most Merciful Allah"
Dear Brothers and Sisters,
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Hello G-L,
Yes indeed; this is a sad day in the history of our traditionally peaceful
country. I join those who have condemn the barbaric act. A regime that
values material property over human life does not deserve to rule over our
people.
May the courageous souls of those valiant students rest in eternal peace.
Some day, and I hope that may not be long in coming, when true patriots
rule The Gambia, I hope a monument shall be erected in their memory.
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I spoke to a gambian who was outside Serrekunda market this afternoon when the
military showed up. He saw one man (not a student) run away from the soldiers
because he was scared. They ran after him and killed him with a knife.
I am really shocked about whats happening in Gambia now.
Morro Camara
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This is indeed a tragedy and words cannot describe how angry I feel
right now, that such an event had to take place. Everyday, that goes by, I
am saddened by the direction that The Gambian is meandering towards. It is
extremely upsetting and degrading to find out, that our own people are
capable of acting out, on such inhumane acts of violence.
There is no doubt in my mind, that Human Rights violations have
occurred, and there is also no doubt in my mind, that unless this issue is
addressed and tackled, that such dialogues, will crop up again and again. My
prayers go out to those that have lost their lives, at such an early age,
and may God bless them. I pray that their families will find the courage and
support that they need, as they go through this period of mourning and its
aftermath.
It is high time that we have respect for one another as human beings.
It is time that we put each others differences and unite. We can achieve a
lot this way, rather than eliminating each other. We're in an era of
post-Independence, and we are supposed to be practicing democracy. If we
can't practice it, lets not hide under the blankets of the word. Lets call
it something else. All I know, is, that I will never forget this event and
others that have taken place, because, how can one forget, especially when
the most important place in most of our lives, is bleeding with tears and
blood. Thankyou for taking, the time to read this.
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Haruna,=20
This piece was being written when the butchering of these young and =
innocent students was emerging on the List.
Please read Yus's posting properly. He neither used the word =
"exonerated" nor implied to it for once. What Yus is saying is that the =
emphasis of blame should be more on those who murdered Ebrima Barry than =
the teacher. There is no legal system that I know of, where the teacher =
could be held solely accountable for the death of Barry. You said the =
teacher is "culpable" Yes, that maybe true, but culpability is not =
always premeditation. It is a common thing for one to be "culpable" of =
something that he is innocent of. The news of the massacre of these poor =
is what Yusupha Jow is talking about. Are we now going to blame what led =
to the demonstration or people who pulled the trigger?=20
The fact is YAYA MUST GO!!! AND GO HE WILL.
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<P><FONT size=3D2>Please read Yus's posting properly. He neither used =
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emphasis=20
of blame should be more on those who murdered Ebrima Barry than the =
teacher.=20
There is no legal system that I know of, where the teacher could be held =
solely=20
accountable for the death of Barry. You said the teacher is "culpable" =
Yes, that=20
maybe true, but culpability is not always premeditation. It is a common =
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of the=20
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Jammeh have again shown his brutal, cowardice and paranoia to the whole
world. The guy have lost control. He will do anything to keep him in power.
The Gambian history has reached its turning point. The trend Jammeh and his
people have taken have made them to be the worst leaders the Gambia could
have. And this is directed to all those working with him and under him. If
they are not cowards and brutal as Jammeh, why serve under him?
I see that a lot of the L'ers are surprised by this. No one should be. Anyone
closely following the way the Gambia has been going since this murderer came
into power should be able to vision such. And you know what, it is just the
beginning.
The people are tired and they would not keep sitting waiting for someone to
come to their rescue like those of us making a lot of noise on the net the
Jammeh critics will call us. They will take the bulls by their horns.
It is sad to say, but I hope when things change, not only Jammeh is brought
to justice, but all those serving under/with him. Sooner or later, our people
will be free.
God bless the Gambia.
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demo. The news is somewhat uncertain.
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Just like any topic of concern, I am sitting here
grieving for these youngsters, their families, and for
our dear motherland. It is a shame, a big shame... i
am currently joining other members of the L at Mr.
Sarr's chatroom. I would like to share my views and
findings about what's going on right now so please
come share yours with us at
http://www.gambiansonline.com/mainchat.htm
Love to All!
Essa
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> I spoke to a gambian who was outside Serrekunda
> market this afternoon when the
> military showed up. He saw one man (not a student)
> run away from the soldiers
> because he was scared. They ran after him and killed
> him with a knife.
>
> I am really shocked about whats happening in Gambia
> now.
>
> Morro Camara
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Students Demonstrate In Ouagadougou
Here's a similar student protest in Burkina with a totally different =
reaction by the state to that of the Butchers of Banjul.
Students Demonstrate In Ouagadougou
April 10, 2000=20
OUAGADOUGOU, Burkina Faso (PANA) - The 72-hour strike by a group of mass =
organisations and opposition parties got a boost Monday when hundreds of =
pupils and students staged violent demonstrations in Ouagadougou.
The protestors erected barricades and burnt tyres on Charles De Gaulle =
Avenue leading to Ouagadougou University and assaulted motorists trying =
to force their way through road blocks.
The students ransacked several cars and destroyed traffic lights and =
pulled down sign posts, newspaper stands and overturned stalls.
Students at Philippe Zinda Kabore High School demolished a portion of =
the school fence and hurled missiles at passing state-owned cars.
Their colleagues at Marien N'Gouabi High School assaulted security =
forces who used tear-gases to disperse the irate youths.
However, the situation had calmed down slightly by late Monday =
afternoon, although most secondary and higher education institutions =
remained closed.
The strike was observed in several public offices, particularly in =
hospitals.
It was called to protest against the hurling of tear gas canisters =
security forces against participants in Saturday's march against =
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<H2><FONT size=3D3>Here's a similar student protest in Burkina with a =
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Banjul.</FONT></H2>
<H2>Students Demonstrate In Ouagadougou</H2>
<P>April 10, 2000=20
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<P>OUAGADOUGOU, Burkina Faso (PANA) - The 72-hour strike by a group of =
mass=20
organisations and opposition parties got a boost Monday when hundreds of =
pupils=20
and students staged violent demonstrations in Ouagadougou.
<P>The protestors erected barricades and burnt tyres on Charles De =
Gaulle Avenue=20
leading to Ouagadougou University and assaulted motorists trying to =
force their=20
way through road blocks.
<P>The students ransacked several cars and destroyed traffic lights and =
pulled=20
down sign posts, newspaper stands and overturned stalls.
<P>Students at Philippe Zinda Kabore High School demolished a portion of =
the=20
school fence and hurled missiles at passing state-owned cars.
<P>Their colleagues at Marien N'Gouabi High School assaulted security =
forces who=20
used tear-gases to disperse the irate youths.
<P>However, the situation had calmed down slightly by late Monday =
afternoon,=20
although most secondary and higher education institutions remained =
closed.
<P>The strike was observed in several public offices, particularly in =
hospitals.
<P>It was called to protest against the hurling of tear gas canisters =
security=20
forces against participants in Saturday's march against perceived =
government=20
impunity.=20
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This killing trend must end. The armed forces have to stop playing =
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Gambia-L,
The killing of defenseless students is savage, cowardly and a
manifestation of absolute dictatorship and paranoia. Like most people I
am speechless as the cold sweat runs down my spine.
I am sure that this day will not only go down in Gambian history, it
surely marks a new era. Oppression will indeed always be met with
resistance. Ten years ago, I had friends from Indonesia at Karlsruhe
University in Germany. To talk about anything political in those circles
resulted to isolation, for the students were so scared to even think
politically in those days, not to talk of talking or acting politically.
No one could imagine that those students would contribute as they did,
to changes in Indonesia. Yet, when the right moment came, those scared
students displayed bravery hardly seem before in that country's history
and yes, they made history.
I am not sure whether the riots which led to the shooting are closely
related to the death of Ebrima Barry and the rape of a schoolgirl by
some officer in uniform, for which the students have been seeking
justice. I have, however, been following developments on these issues.
From the information I have gathered so far, the students have been
responsible in their actions. The executive of the Gambia Students'
Union (GAMSU) organised a press conference on Friday, 24 March to
explain their position. They talked about the incident which took place
at the Brikama Fire Station, when missiles were exchanged between Fire
Service Officers and Students demonstrating for justice for Ebrima Barry
and the raped school girl. They answered questions asked by journalists.
The Information Minister of GAMSU even wrote an article in some
newspapers further clarifying their position. According to this letter,
they interviewed several people including the teacher who reported the
matter to the Fire Service, Ebrima barry's class teacher and his
father.
When I read about the efforts of the Students I felt that they were
indeed trying to get at facts. They seemed to have been acting in a
mature manner while at the same time demanding for justice. I admired
their courage and their apparent skillful approach to crisis resolution.
I felt that this was a healthy beginning for students' participation in
the democratic process.
As I am writing these words, it appears that getting through to The
Gambia by phone is very difficult, so of course I do not have all the
facts, but I am sure we will all agree that no matter what happened and
what caused it, shooting unarmed students and demonstrators asking for
justice deserves no less than outright condemnation. I have heard
unconfirmed reports of crowd related violence, but even if that should
be true it does not justify shooting with intent to kill. Why are the
perpetrators of these criminal acts not brought to justice in the first
place? Why has the Government not intervened to enhance dialogue between
the students and the officers of the Brikama Fire Service? Could this
not have been prevented by timely intervention and administration of
justice? And just why on earth did the riot police or whoever did the
shooting not use tear gas, water cannons or similar equipment to
disperse the crowd as a last resort?
As we are waiting for more news, our hearts filled with grief while we
try to grapple with this unfortunate tragedy, we should prepare for
common action. These children of The Gambia cannot just die in cold
blood while we standby and watch. The idea of a petition, as proposed by
Dr. Saine is certainly worth pursuing. We should think about the
addressees of the petition and its message. I believe, it will be good
for us to get as holistic a picture as possible, discuss the content and
message of the petition briefly. One way of getting signatures together
is to specify one address where anyone willing to sign the petition can
send a mail with the subject "petition signatory". We should also think
of other avenues through which we can contribute from the distance. For
instance, we can collect some money to pay for legal bills, should one
of the victim's relatives etc. decide to take the matter to the courts.
The law enforcers and those entrusted with the running of the countries
affairs should remember that no repression machinery has succeeded in
keeping a people oppressed for ever. If the sophisticated instruments of
repression which were available to South Africa under Apartheid, the
German Democratic republic under Honecker and so on had to give way to
the will of the people, only a person in deep slumber will believe that
The Gambia with one thousand or so military men and women can deny the
will of the people by way of force. And let all perpetrators of
injustice know that there is no hiding place for killers and dictators.
I hope we can look back to this day in future and say "they did not die
in vain".
Alpha Robinson
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Thomas Sankara once said
" A Soldier without political education is a virtual beast"
May their Souls rest in perfect peace!!!!
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I concur totally with Dr Saine regarding petitioning Yaya Jammeh. Chances
are he'll thrash all of them, but just for the record, we need to make our
feelings heard. One would think that driving the economy down the ground,
and constantly harassing it's opponents would be enough for this govt. But
no! They have to murder kids! What type of rule is this? How can Gambians be
so cruel to each other? I'm tired, and totally numb right now. All I know is
that every decent Gambian should do his/her utmost to get rid of this
regime. I agree with the sentiments expressed by Prince Coker, Ousman Bojang
and others. Even for a criminal govt, the Jammeh regime is really outdoing
itself in the barbarism arena. God help our people.
Saul.
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>This is tragic! If these reports are accurate, (and I have no reason to
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May Allah have mercy on the souls of the victims
I join Buharry in condemning this unnecessary act by some solders who
may or may not have been obeying orders. There was no need for the
shootings at all . Demonstrations must be allowed for whatever reason.
These kids did not have guns (as far as we know 0 and this act was
really senseless
Subhanallah and AstahfurAllah
MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA wrote:
> Hi! I join all who have condemned this most disturbing and brutal
> incident in our dear homeland. Those responsible for these brutal acts
> must be severely dealt with. This day is indeed a very sad day for The
> Gambia. May the souls of those who were killed rest in peace. May the
> Almighty have mercy on them and give their families the strength to
> deal with the senseless carnage that has deprived them of their loved
> ones. This killing trend must end. The armed forces have to stop
> playing cowboys and bandits with the stability of our dear country. We
> are not living in the Wild West. Our country is that small country
> called The Gambia in case they forgot. Once again, I totally condemn
> the brutality visited upon these young people in the strongest of
> terms.
> Thanks.
> Buharry.
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May Allah have mercy on the souls of the victims
<br>I join Buharry in condemning this unnecessary act by some solders who
may or may not have been obeying orders. There was no need for the
shootings at all . Demonstrations must be allowed for whatever reason.
<br>These kids did not have guns (as far as we know 0 and this act was
really senseless
<br>Subhanallah and AstahfurAllah
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I join all who have condemned this most disturbing and brutal incident
in our dear homeland. Those responsible for these brutal acts must be severely
dealt with. This day is indeed a very sad day for The Gambia. May the souls
of those who were killed rest in peace. May the Almighty have mercy on
them and give their families the strength to deal with the senseless carnage
that has deprived them of their loved ones.</font><font size=-1>
This killing trend must end. The armed forces have to stop playing cowboys
and bandits with the stability of our dear country. We are not living in
the Wild West. Our country is that small country called The Gambia in case
they forgot. Once again, I totally condemn the brutality visited upon these
young people in the strongest of terms. Thanks.</font><font size=-1>
Buharry.</font></blockquote>
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Sloans,
The only information i could give you is the one i witness and that is
the kotu police station and the kotu fire service was burnt and looted .
All the people held at the cells were released by the demonstrators.I
can also confirm that a number of students are currently held at the
police lines at box bar barracks as one of my relatives is among them.
Let us all pray and hope that peace and tranquility will return to The
Gambia by the grace of Allah.
Chi Jamma.
Bro Sheikh Tejan Nyang.
P.S. It has been announced on both the radio and t.v that schools in
regions 1-2 will be close until further notice.
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> Please, give us more information of the happenings of the Students'
> demo. The news is somewhat uncertain. Prince
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<BR>The only information i could give you is the one i witness and that
is the kotu police station and the kotu fire service was burnt and looted
. All the people held at the cells were released by the demonstrators.I
can also confirm that a number of students are currently held at the police
lines at box bar barracks as one of my relatives is among them. Let us
all pray and hope that peace and tranquility will return to The Gambia
by the grace of Allah.
<P>Chi Jamma.
<BR>Bro Sheikh Tejan Nyang.
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regions 1-2 will be close until further notice.
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Another facet of a brutal tyranny has shown it's ugly face . Spraying
students with live ammunition is but a continuation of a deliberate policy of
murder, torture and intimidation. I join list members in condemning in the
strongest term the wanton murders and also support the fine suggestions Alpha
and rest made regarding steps to be taken by us pursuant to the results of
the final details of what happened. In the meantime we can expect what has by
now become standard utterances replete with lies, obfuscations and attempts
to rationalise outright murders. Yahya Jammeh and every single person serving
with him in a responsible position will be prosecuted for all their crimes.
I am certain of that.
Karamba
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Greetings:
I join the rest in expressing my condolences to the families of the deceased
students.
I also express my indignation to this attrocities perpetrated by the
officers. All reports being received indicate that only students and
civilians died, killed by 'law enforcement officers'. While some have
cautioned to wait for the full details of this attrocity to come out, one
cannot deny that at the very least, the officers over stepped the boundaries
of human dignity.
If they were provoked by the students, assuming that was the case here
(there was reporting of looting by the students), the officers ought to have
simply arrested the students using restrained force. I am sure they have
other less deadly tools of their trade that would have been more
appropriate. But using deadly force??? No! No! No!
What do we do? Certainly move in the direction suggested by Dr. Saine, Alpha
and others.
My suggestion is to also mobilize our respective communities, draft a
protest letter to be signed by as many people as possible and submit it to
the Gambian Missions abroad, while also following through with the other
suggestions being developed here.
Latjor
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Yus,
You said it all and I quote. " I would very much like to hear the
teacher=B4s explanation of why he called in the fire brigade. If the
teacher is unable to give a reasonable explanation for his action, he
should be suspended or perhaps dismissed from the school
system ".
You see Yus, lack of this " reasonable explanation " as you called
it , is what has been giving me a headache all along.The teacher is
as silence as a grave. We heard nothing from him since the matter
came to the public knowledge. I believe that the teacher should
break his long silence and enlighten us if he really believes to be
innocent. A coin has two sides so we need to hear from the other
side too ( the teacher=B4s ). until he come out of the bush, he will be
blame by many people including myself forever.
And to everyone: Let us all pray in mind so that the present chaos
in the Gambia ends peacefully and no more killing.
AMEN !
Kibily.
**Peace and respect**
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Ousman Bojang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Jammeh have again shown his brutal, cowardice and paranoia to the whole
world. The guy have lost control. He will do anything to keep him in power.
The Gambian history has reached its turning point. The trend Jammeh and his
people have taken have made them to be the worst leaders the Gambia could
have. And this is directed to all those working with him and under him. If
they are not cowards and brutal as Jammeh, why serve under him?
I see that a lot of the L'ers are surprised by this. No one should be. Anyone
closely following the way the Gambia has been going since this murderer came
into power should be able to vision such. And you know what, it is just the
beginning.
The people are tired and they would not keep sitting waiting for someone to
come to their rescue like those of us making a lot of noise on the net the
Jammeh critics will call us. They will take the bulls by their horns.
It is sad to say, but I hope when things change, not only Jammeh is brought
to justice, but all those serving under/with him. Sooner or later, our people
Ousman Bojang,
The issue at hand is a concern for all of us and rest assured that those responsible for such evil will be brought to justice! However, my feeling is that some of you are over reacting and base your feelings on subjectivity.I want to put it you personallly that there is no one amongst us serving under Jammeh and Jammeh himself who would be so irresponsible to order the massacre of students.THATS TOTALLY FALLACIOUS AND BOGUS FOR YOU OR ANYONE TO SAY ON THIS FORUM!
I want those of you whirling accusations to know that some of those students who lost their lives are closely related to people working under Jammeh.Some are related to Jammeh himself. Did you know that?
Recently those fire service officers who were accused of killing Barry were arrested and they are currently facing the judges. I Know that some of you are waiting to see people like me on the forum and jump on me with your infantile mud slinging styles, but rest assured that i am ready for that as well.
Lets try to jointly condemn those officers who killed the students but its better not to over generalise issues for cheap popularity afterwards some of you are always on this L as "so-called-immaculate saints".Which i feel is totally false.
Some of us are quiet on the forum not because we are scared of your "wild" literature but i for one always see the "rigid-system of hatching bitter eggs from your postings rather than helping build our nation"
This is a national tragedy that all of us feel including Jammeh! We are not as wicked as you people are portraying no! no! no! no! no! That is not TRUE!
You can call me names when you step in but thats your business anyway.After all i ammmm related to some of those students more than all of you do and i know that no one in the current Gvt.will cheer any soldier for shooting students.Yahya Jammeh is mourning like all of us.
Lets oppose each other but that does warrant you guys to hate us! why? why? hate!
You can ask arround those i do frequent professionally i am NOT those that you guys classify as job-mongers.Some of YOU knew me at Armitage high school.Say what you want today but we know each other.
May the souls of those who lost their lives rest in peace BUT know that we are related to those students also.
In french its said that:"la justice et la vitesse ne font pas paire" ie:justice and speed cannot make a good pair.FULL STOP.
We know that its wrong to kill students but give us time to judge and not smear our society with vengeance!
I am ready for any one of you who jumps on the stage emotionally.After all all of us can play with the semantics of words and come to nothing at the end.
No one can ever contribute on this forum without being castigated,framed and ridiculed by some of you why that? How can impatience rectify any wrong? BE RESPECTFUL to others if you want to receive the same back.Do you people know that our forum is the worst so far?
Dr Touray please note that my intervention is in no way representing the Gvt's view its personal.
Essa Bokarr Sey
Ambassador in Paris.
will be free.
God bless the Gambia.
Ousman Bojang.
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<P>Jammeh have again shown his brutal, cowardice and paranoia to the whole<BR>world. The guy have lost control. He will do anything to keep him in power.<BR>The Gambian history has reached its turning point. The trend Jammeh and his<BR>people have taken have made them to be the worst leaders the Gambia could<BR>have. And this is directed to all those working with him and under him. If<BR>they are not cowards and brutal as Jammeh, why serve under him?<BR>I see that a lot of the L'ers are surprised by this. No one should be. Anyone<BR>closely following the way the Gambia has been going since this murderer came<BR>into power should be able to vision such. And you know what, it is just the<BR>beginning.<BR>The people are tired and they would not keep sitting waiting for someone to<BR>come to their rescue like those of us making a lot of noise on the net the<BR>Jammeh critics will call us. They will take the bulls by their horns.<BR>It is sad to say, but I hope when things change, not only Jammeh is brought<BR>to justice, but all those serving under/with him. Sooner or later, our people<BR></P>
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<P> The issue at hand is a concern for all of us and rest assured that those responsible for such evil will be brought to justice! However, my feeling is that some of you are over reacting and base your feelings on subjectivity.I want to put it you personallly that there is no one amongst us serving under Jammeh and Jammeh himself who would be so irresponsible to order the massacre of students.THATS TOTALLY FALLACIOUS AND BOGUS FOR YOU OR ANYONE TO SAY ON THIS FORUM! </P>
<P>I want those of you whirling accusations to know that some of those students who lost their lives are closely related to people working under Jammeh.Some are related to Jammeh himself. Did you know that?</P>
<P>Recently those fire service officers who were accused of killing Barry were arrested and they are currently facing the judges. I Know that some of you are waiting to see people like me on the forum and jump on me with your infantile mud slinging styles, but rest assured that i am ready for that as well.</P>
<P>Lets try to jointly condemn those officers who killed the students but its better not to over generalise issues for cheap popularity afterwards some of you are always on this L as "so-called-immaculate saints".Which i feel is totally false.</P>
<P>Some of us are quiet on the forum not because we are scared of your "wild" literature but i for one always see the "rigid-system of hatching bitter eggs from your postings rather than helping build our nation" </P>
<P> This is a national tragedy that all of us feel including Jammeh! We are not as wicked as you people are portraying no! no! no! no! no! That is not TRUE!</P>
<P>You can call me names when you step in but thats your business anyway.After all i ammmm related to some of those students more than all of you do and i know that no one in the current Gvt.will cheer any soldier for shooting students.Yahya Jammeh is mourning like all of us. </P>
<P>Lets oppose each other but that does warrant you guys to hate us! why? why? hate!</P>
<P>You can ask arround those i do frequent professionally i am NOT those that you guys classify as job-mongers.Some of YOU knew me at Armitage high school.Say what you want today but we know each other.</P>
<P>May the souls of those who lost their lives rest in peace BUT know that we are related to those students also.</P>
<P>In french its said that:"la justice et la vitesse ne font pas paire" ie:justice and speed cannot make a good pair.FULL STOP.</P>
<P>We know that its wrong to kill students but give us time to judge and not smear our society with vengeance!</P>
<P>I am ready for any one of you who jumps on the stage emotionally.After all all of us can play with the semantics of words and come to nothing at the end.</P>
<P>No one can ever contribute on this forum without being castigated,framed and ridiculed by some of you why that? How can impatience rectify any wrong? BE RESPECTFUL to others if you want to receive the same back.Do you people know that our forum is the worst so far?</P>
<P>Dr Touray please note that my intervention is in no way representing the Gvt's view its personal.</P>
<P> Essa Bokarr Sey</P>
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I very much urge those of us out side to start
organising a very stong resistace against this
Dictator.We must meet his forceful actions with
absolute force.Remember he who uses force can be
countered with nothing but force.At this stage of his
dictatorship he is paranoid,and the only way we can
make him think Democracy and freedom of expression is
to make him pay for his own actions,whatever that
maybe would be left to the organising committee to
decide.
We urge everyone to help make this as swift as
possible.There is going to be a centralised location
for all future communication.We know the west's snoops
are going to snoop in,so we are going to have make
them not even smell this one.
Thanks guis see you there.
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> Thomas Sankara once said
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<DIV>Hi!</DIV>
<DIV> I join all who have condemned
this most disturbing and
brutal incident in our dear homeland. Those
responsible for these brutal acts
must be severely dealt with. This day is indeed a very
sad day for The Gambia.
May the souls of those who were killed rest in peace.
May the Almighty have
mercy on them and give their families the
strength to deal with the
senseless carnage that has deprived them of their
loved ones.</DIV>
<DIV> This killing trend must
end. The armed forces have
to stop playing cowboys and bandits with the
stability of our dear country.
We are not living in the Wild West. Our country is
that small country called The
Gambia in case they forgot. Once again, I totally
condemn the brutality visited
upon these young people in the strongest of terms.
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Assalaamu alaikum G-L
(There is no power and might except by Allah!)
(Subhanalah) This tragic is very sad to hear, when i heard the news from a
friend, i could not believed that these thing could happen in the Gambia.
I called my sister to confirmed whether is true or not,
my sister told me that they could not go out because the soldiers had open
fire all over the place, they are in a very serious condition right now.
Because if the soldiers see you with school uniform then you are in danger.
I can`t understand why the soldiers are acting like this with the future
generation, if they continue this tragic killings, how do they want the
others who survived to concentrate in their schooling?
What do the soldiers expect for the future generation,if they start killing
the student???
This is just like:(Killed them before they grow)!!!!!
This is very inhuman really, i think that the Gambian`s
will learned something from the freetown crisis but no insted the soldiers
are trying to build the same anger to the people, and it could be dangerous
when people have no fear any more.
Please, please, please don`t distroyed our mother land like Brundi, Liberia,
sierra leone and other countries.
Let us pray, let us pray to the Gambia, let us all pray.
Because prayer`s is the only weapon to the believer`s
let us stop the anger and try to control our minds.
May Allah! The Almighty, The Super Power GUIDE the Gambia from this tragic
problems and grant us Peace from these HUNGRY SOLDIERS.
May Allah! The Most High! Purifies the hearts of these HUNGRY SOLDIERS.
Those HUNGRY SOLDIERS hearts wherewith they understand not, their eyes
wherewith they see not, and their ears wherewith they hear not.They are like
cattle, --- nay more misguided: for they are heedless of worning. (Surah:7.
Verse179)
To such as Allah! rejects from His guidance, there can be no guide. Allah!
will leave them in their trespasses wandering in distraction.(Surah: 7.
Verse:186)
Allah! The Almighty Says: in the Holy Qur`an:
There will be a day mankind will issue forth in scattered groups to be shown
their deeds.
And whoso doth good an atom`s weight will see it then,
And whoso doth ill an atom`s weight will see it then.
(Srah 99 Verse 6-7-8).
Allah`s promised NEVER Fails!!!!!
Therefore let us try our level best to cool down our temper.
Let us be consious about Allah`s promised, cause it will help us to cool
down.
Let us fight with our mind`s, but not our hearts, it could be more dangerous
if we don`t use our minds,
then the anger will be spread like no bodies business.
We cannot fight with the soldiers by insulting the goverment neither the
presendent,
it will make it more worst.
There will come a day that every body will witness
the TRUTH (Insha Allah) Allah! is not sleeping and He will never sleep:
Every body will be judged according to his or her deeds, whether is here in
this life,or the lifeafter,
is a matter of Most.
And everything has an end except Allah!
Let us put our trust in Allah and there is no power and might except by
Allah!(SWT).For Allah! is exalted in power, wise.
My condolence goes to all those who lost their beloved one`s.
May Allah! Shower them with His Mercy and may their Souls Rest in Perfect
Peace.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
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from the BBC
Monday, 10 April, 2000, 20:41 GMT 21:41 UK
Six killed in Gambia
clashes
At least six people, including a Red Cross
volunteer, have been killed when police broke
up student protests in Gambia.
The protests began as a march against alleged
police mistreatment of students but suddenly
degenerated into violent clashes in the capital,
Banjul, between the security forces and young
people.
Red Cross officials in Gambia said volunteer
worker, Umar Barrow, was shot by armed
police who had entered the headquarters of
the charity.
The officials said Mr Barrow was wearing Red
Cross insignia when he was shot and that they
had protested to the authorities about the
behavior of the security forces.
The circumstances surrounding the other
deaths are less clear, but medical personnel
said many people have bullet wounds. At least
one police officer was badly injured.
Rape protest
The student demonstrations began with
protests about the alleged rape of a woman
student and the alleged torture of a young
man by the security forces.
Students announced plans for the
demonstration at the weekend, claiming that
the Gambian Government had not responded
adequately to the events.
According to witness reports, students set
tyres alight, ransacked government offices and
burned vehicles. A police station, post office
and buildings belonging to state television and
the independent electoral commission were
badly damaged.
The authorities have now ordered all schools
and colleges to close, and said that armed
soldiers will ensure order on the streets.
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Subject: Brutality at its best!!!!!
Dear Gambia L,
This is yet another clear manifestation to the Gambian people and the whole
world that there is a difference between Yaya's government and the
government which he and his cohorts claim to rescue Gambians from.I am sure
every one is aware of why the alleged killings happened today at home.It all
began because a student has been tortured to death and another has been
raped but authorities are reluctant to investigate and punish those
responsible for the crimes.
Any effort to suppress the unveiling of truth I'm sure will be fruitless and
it is better to take action against those responsible for those crimes as
well as the officers who fired and killed students.I believe law enforcement
agencies are all dancing to the tunes of the rogue regime and it is time
those of them who want to restore credibility in their service to the nation
come out and speak out. You cannot continue killing our people who are
defenseless in the name of law and order when there is not a single iota of
discipline in your activities. Why in the first place would they face
student with guns with live ammunitions? Brothers and sisters let us join
hands in every possible way to dislodge this barbaric regime.Each of us can
make this a reality through the letter writing campaigns as well as
encouraging people to vote.May their souls rest in peace.Long live the
Gambia.
Mori Kebba Jammeh
Mori
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Subject: Re: Brutality at its best!!!!!
I was going to write Brutality at its worst. My apology to all for the error
in the subject line.
Mori
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> Dear Gambia L,
> This is yet another clear manifestation to the Gambian people and the
whole
> world that there is a difference between Yaya's government and the
> government which he and his cohorts claim to rescue Gambians from.I am
sure
> every one is aware of why the alleged killings happened today at home.It
all
> began because a student has been tortured to death and another has been
> raped but authorities are reluctant to investigate and punish those
> responsible for the crimes.
>
> Any effort to suppress the unveiling of truth I'm sure will be fruitless
and
> it is better to take action against those responsible for those crimes as
> well as the officers who fired and killed students.I believe law
enforcement
> agencies are all dancing to the tunes of the rogue regime and it is time
> those of them who want to restore credibility in their service to the
nation
> come out and speak out. You cannot continue killing our people who are
> defenseless in the name of law and order when there is not a single iota
of
> discipline in your activities. Why in the first place would they face
> student with guns with live ammunitions? Brothers and sisters let us join
> hands in every possible way to dislodge this barbaric regime.Each of us
can
> make this a reality through the letter writing campaigns as well as
> encouraging people to vote.May their souls rest in peace.Long live the
> Gambia.
> Mori Kebba Jammeh
>
>
>
>
> Mori
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Monday 10/04/00
PRESIDENT JAMMEH BAGS ITALIAN AWARD
The head of state, Alhaji Colonel (rtd) Yaya Jammeh was
Friday conferred with baronage and knighthood of the
Order of the Military Cingolo by Prince Cesare of Altavilla,
Italy, at a dinner at the Kairaba Beach Hotel. The consul
general of the Gambia in Italy, Francesco Cristina, said
Prince Cesare decided to confer the award on President
Jammeh in view of his commitment to the maintenance of
world peace and a clear concern for the promotion of
national socio-political reform. He said it would also
further cement the existing relations between Italy and
The Gambia.
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Hi Folks,
As a concerned Gambian, I view with horror and trepidation, the killing of
unarmed students by Mr. Yaya Jammeh's goons. It is indeed shocking that
these extrajudiciary killings are occuring under a "democratically elected
government". May the soul of the departed rest in peace, Amin.
I leave you with the following quote:
KOFI ANNAN (UN Secretary General) on African leaders:
"The quality of the leaders, the misery they have brought to their people
and my inability to work with them to turn the situation around are very
depressing. Unless we find a way of getting them to focus on resolving
conflicts and turn to the key issues of economic and social development,
the efforts that we are all making will be for naught. In many countries
the wrong kind have made it to leadership. They see power for the sake of
power and for their own aggrandisement rather than having a real
understanding of the need to use power to improve their countries."
With best regards,
Madiba.
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Essa
Is President Jammeh back from Cuba yet?
tester testers wrote:
> Just like any topic of concern, I am sitting here
> grieving for these youngsters, their families, and for
> our dear motherland. It is a shame, a big shame... i
> am currently joining other members of the L at Mr.
> Sarr's chatroom. I would like to share my views and
> findings about what's going on right now so please
> come share yours with us at
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> http://www.gambiansonline.com/mainchat.htm
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> Love to All!
>
> Essa
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> --- Svend Ole <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > I spoke to a gambian who was outside Serrekunda
> > market this afternoon when the
> > military showed up. He saw one man (not a student)
> > run away from the soldiers
> > because he was scared. They ran after him and killed
> > him with a knife.
> >
> > I am really shocked about whats happening in Gambia
> > now.
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G-L Community,
Like many of you, I do hereby write to extend my sincere and deepest
condolences to the families of the students massacred in The Gambia on the
10th day of April, 2000. It takes real courage to take up the streets
nowadays in light of the current political trend in the country. It is very
sorrowful that these helpless, innocent and courageous students have to die
in that shameful condition.
I hope we will come up with something constructive in memories of these
students who died for justice being dispensed in The Gambia. Thus, I will
second the suggestions made by Amadou K. Njie and Alpha Robinson in their
respective postings.
May their souls rest in eternal peace. Amen!
S. S. Saidykhan
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source Reuters news
Up to 10 Killed As Gambian
Students Rampage
Monday, April 10, 2000
BANJUL (Reuters) - Up to 10 people,
including a journalist, were
killed Monday in riots in the Gambian
capital by students protesting
at the alleged torture and murder of a
school pupil by fire fighters,
witnesses said.
The government, which closed schools in
the Banjul area
indefinitely and put its security forces
on alert, declined to confirm
that anyone had died in the clashes
between hundreds of
students and security forces.
A statement released by President Yahya
Jammeh's government
spoke only of casualties.
With reports of the death toll varying,
witnesses told Reuters that
they had seen 10 bodies in the morgue of a
Banjul hospital,
including Omar Barrow, a journalist
working for Senegal's Sud FM
radio station, and students.
Students set tires alight, ransacked
government offices and
burned vehicles, witnesses said. A police
station, post office and
buildings belonging to state television
and the independent
electoral commission were all badly
damaged. Students announced
plans for the demonstration at the
weekend, saying the
government had not responded adequately to
the death of
Ebrahima Barry, a pupil at Forster Senior
Secondary School in
Brikama, 20 miles west of Banjul.
The students allege that Barry died as a
result of torture by fire
fighters.
Police sources say six members of the
Brikama Fire and Ambulance
Services were arrested in March and
charged with Barry's murder.
They were remanded in custody pending a
high court hearing.
By late afternoon, the students had
dispersed and security
services were busy clearing debris,
including burnt tires and
wooden barricades, from the streets of
Banjul.
"The Gambian government accuses the
students under the
direction of the Gambia Students Union of
having perpetrated acts
of vandalism and forcing other students to
come out from their
classes and join them," the government
statement said.
It added the number of casualties and the
extent of the damage
were still being assessed.
"Security forces are on full alert to
ensure the safety of lives and
property. The situation is completely
under control," the
statement said.
The former British colony in West Africa
has a population of just
over 1.2 million.
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My deepest condolences to all the students and non-students that were
killed. This act of cowardise needs to be condemned by all and those
responsible need to be brought before justice. I was thinking maybe the
police and soldiers as well as the people who gave them orders to kill came
from the bush or something[Animals]. i just could not believe Gambians are
responsible of taking such deadly actions, because all of us in the Gambia
are related.
God Bless And Peace Be Upon All
Alasana Bah
Seattle, WA
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>Dear Gambia L,
>This is yet another clear manifestation to the Gambian people and the whole
>world that there is a difference between Yaya's government and the
>government which he and his cohorts claim to rescue Gambians from.I am sure
>every one is aware of why the alleged killings happened today at home.It
>all
>began because a student has been tortured to death and another has been
>raped but authorities are reluctant to investigate and punish those
>responsible for the crimes.
>
>Any effort to suppress the unveiling of truth I'm sure will be fruitless
>and
>it is better to take action against those responsible for those crimes as
>well as the officers who fired and killed students.I believe law
>enforcement
>agencies are all dancing to the tunes of the rogue regime and it is time
>those of them who want to restore credibility in their service to the
>nation
>come out and speak out. You cannot continue killing our people who are
>defenseless in the name of law and order when there is not a single iota of
>discipline in your activities. Why in the first place would they face
>student with guns with live ammunitions? Brothers and sisters let us join
>hands in every possible way to dislodge this barbaric regime.Each of us can
>make this a reality through the letter writing campaigns as well as
>encouraging people to vote.May their souls rest in peace.Long live the
>Gambia.
>Mori Kebba Jammeh
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:53:30 EDT
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Your "excellency" Bokarr Sey, it is absolutely shocking and sad that you have
chosen this moment to further your government's cause. As an official
representative of the Gambia govt, you should have joined all of us in
condemning what happened today. Instead you chose to represent yourself and
govt by using half truths and half baked statements.
In your attempt to dissociate the regime from today's tragic incident you
state:
Quote
I want to put it you personally that there is no one amongst us serving under
Jammeh and Jammeh himself who would be so irresponsible to order the massacre
of students
Unquote
In response to this statement, my question is whether the top military
commanders in the GNA do not serve under Jammeh? Unless the military chain
of command has completely crumbled, your statement, coming from the Gambian
Ambassador to France, should be considered as a shameful attempt to cover the
truth.
In your continuing bumbled attempt to defend I don't know what, you state:
Quote
I want those of you whirling accusations to know that some of those students
who lost their lives are closely related to people working under Jammeh.Some
are related to Jammeh himself. Did you know that?
Unquote
This statement is not relevant in relation to what happened today. As far as
most of us are concerned, all that counts is that innocent students were
killed today. I even doubt the validity of the statement you made since
there is no evidence to support your claims.
Unfortunately, you have chosen this time to defend your regime. But history
has been the best judge of tyrants and their coconspirators. Time will tell!
Yus
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may all of them rest in peace.
we all need to face reality,with all the talking we are doing,most of us are
not taking any action.there were about 30 of us in the last conference held
in february with all the people in the US,Which is a shame.the ALD is coming
which will be a good time to organize a demonstration to the white house or
capital hill.what do you all thing.i think it is time to start acting rather
than just talking and posting messages on the L.May ALLAH help us.
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> This is indeed a tragedy and words cannot describe how angry I feel
>right now, that such an event had to take place. Everyday, that goes by, I
>am saddened by the direction that The Gambian is meandering towards. It is
>extremely upsetting and degrading to find out, that our own people are
>capable of acting out, on such inhumane acts of violence.
> There is no doubt in my mind, that Human Rights violations have
>occurred, and there is also no doubt in my mind, that unless this issue is
>addressed and tackled, that such dialogues, will crop up again and again.
>My
>prayers go out to those that have lost their lives, at such an early age,
>and may God bless them. I pray that their families will find the courage
>and
>support that they need, as they go through this period of mourning and its
>aftermath.
> It is high time that we have respect for one another as human
>beings.
>It is time that we put each others differences and unite. We can achieve a
>lot this way, rather than eliminating each other. We're in an era of
>post-Independence, and we are supposed to be practicing democracy. If we
>can't practice it, lets not hide under the blankets of the word. Lets call
>it something else. All I know, is, that I will never forget this event and
>others that have taken place, because, how can one forget, especially when
>the most important place in most of our lives, is bleeding with tears and
>blood. Thankyou for taking, the time to read this.
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Mr Essa Sey,
I am one of those who knew you from Armitage. I think you are a decent hu=
man
being and I have a great deal of respect for you. =
My question to you is this: Do you know EXACTLY what happened in Banjul? =
If
you do, it is your job as our ambassador to inform all concerned Gambians=
=2E If
you do not, then how can you be sure that "there is no one amongst us ser=
ving
under Jammeh and Jammeh himself who would be so irresponsible to order th=
e
massacre of students". Who ordered the shootings?
Did someone else (not serving under Jammeh) order the shootings? =
If the commander-in-chief of the armed forces and his subordinates do not=
have
control over the decision to shoot at unarmed civilians, then something i=
s
terribly wrong in our country. If we buy you arguments, then this is what=
we
have to believe.
I agree with you that there have sometimes been undue negativity about yo=
ur
govt. on this forum. However, this is one occasion when EVERY Gambian mus=
t cry
foul UNEQUIVOCALLY!
I assure you that you (at least as an individual) have a lot of respect o=
n
this forum.
Finally, on your words of wisdom that =
Quote
"la justice et la vitesse ne font pas paire" ie:justice and speed cannot =
make
a good pair.
Unquote
I leave you with this: "justice delayed is justice denied" think about it=
!
I hope you reconsider your reaction in this moment of grief. You will nee=
d all
the diplomatic skills you can muster.
Best regards.
Modou.
Essa Sey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Ousman Bojang,
> =
> The issue at hand is a concern for all of us and=
rest
assured that those responsible for such evil will be brought to justice!=
However, my feeling is that some of you are over reacting and base your
feelings on subjectivity.I want to put it you personallly that there is n=
o one
amongst us serving under Jammeh and Jammeh himself who would be so
irresponsible to order the massacre of students.THATS TOTALLY FALLACIOUS =
AND
BOGUS FOR YOU OR ANYONE TO SAY ON THIS FORUM!
> =
> I want those of you whirling accusations to know that some of those stu=
dents
who lost their lives are closely related to people working under Jammeh.S=
ome
are related to Jammeh himself. Did you know that?
> =
> Recently those fire service officers who were accused of killing Barry =
were
arrested and they are currently facing the judges. I Know that some of yo=
u are
waiting to see people like me on the forum and jump on me with your infa=
ntile
mud slinging styles, but rest assured that i am ready for that as well.
> =
> Lets try to jointly condemn those officers who killed the students but =
its
better not to over generalise issues for cheap popularity afterwards some=
of =
you are always on this L as "so-called-immaculate saints".Which i feel is=
totally false.
> =
> Some of us are quiet on the forum not because we are scared of your "w=
ild"
literature but i for one always see the "rigid-system of hatching bitter =
eggs
from your postings rather than helping build our nation"
> =
> This is a national tragedy that all of us feel including Jammeh! We ar=
e not
as wicked as you people are portraying no! no! no! no! no! That is not T=
RUE!
> =
> You can call me names when you step in but thats your business anyway.A=
fter
all i ammmm related to some of those students more than all of you do and=
i
know that no one in the current Gvt.will cheer any soldier for shooting
students.Yahya Jammeh is mourning like all of us.
> =
> Lets oppose each other but that does warrant you guys to hate us! why? =
why?
hate!
> =
> You can ask arround those i do frequent professionally i am NOT those =
that
you guys classify as job-mongers.Some of YOU knew me at Armitage high
school.Say what you want today but we know each other.
> =
> May the souls of those who lost their lives rest in peace BUT know that=
we
are related to those students also.
> =
> In french its said that:"la justice et la vitesse ne font pas paire"
ie:justice and speed cannot make a good pair.FULL STOP.
> =
> We know that its wrong to kill students but give us time to judge and n=
ot
smear our society with vengeance!
> =
> I am ready for any one of you who jumps on the stage emotionally.After =
all
all of us can play with the semantics of words and come to nothing at the=
end.
> =
> No one can ever contribute on this forum without being castigated,frame=
d and
ridiculed by some of you why that? How can impatience rectify any wrong? =
BE
RESPECTFUL to others if you want to receive the same back.Do you people k=
now
that our forum is the worst so far?
> =
> Dr Touray please note that my intervention is in no way representing th=
e
Gvt's view its personal.
> =
> =
=
Essa Bokarr Sey
> =
> =
=
Ambassador in Paris.
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> =
> will be free.
> God bless the Gambia.
> =
> Ousman Bojang.
> =
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Mr. Ambassador,
To add to what Yus has said, your attempt to exonerate your govt without
being seen as the govt spokesman reeks of sickening hypocrisy. You see Mr.
Sey, things like this savagery are becoming common place in our nation,
thanks to Yaya Jammeh. The problem is not the ignoramuses in uniform, it's
the ENVIRONMENT that enables them to commit such atrocities with impunity.
Now, who created that environment? Simply Mr. Essa Bokarr, you have an
incredible bad taste to even attempt such shameless cover-up of the SOURCE
of this butchery!
If you already know the names of the murdered students, why don't you list
their names! I have no doubt that when the dust settles, neither you nor
Yaya Jammeh's blood relatives will be among the victims! We're talking about
a regime that lets it's soldier beat up women for no reason, a regime that
lets soldiers rape school girls with impunity, a regime that lets anyone in
uniform act as a personification of the law. And you wonder why people hate
the regime? And people are jumping to conclusions regarding the wanton
murder of 13 people according to the latest figures? What in the world could
possibly justify the killing of 13 people including 6/7 school children? And
we should all keep quiet and be patient, and wait for the govt's
investigation! Is'nt this the same govt that is still "investigating" the
brutal murder of Ousman Korro Ceesay more than five years after the fact?
Who the hell are you to tell Gambians we cannot express our outrage against
the madness that our country has become thanks to Yaya Jammeh, and
shameless, greedy, and hypocritical professionals like yourself? You ought
to be ashamed of yourself! Ousman Bojang speaks for the majority of
Gambians whether you like it or not!
Because I'm tired, and currently nursing a pounding headache, I'll cut this
short, but be assured that your attempt to pre-empt a critique of your sorry
defence of this govt will not succeed. You happen to represent a corrupt,
inept, illegitimate, and totally barbaric regime. If you're comfortable with
that, that's your choice. But if you think that you can put up a bunch of
crap on this List to defend the indefensible, and get away with it, you're
simply dreaming in Cloud Cuckoo Land. If needs be, I'll take up this issue
tomorrow when I'm feeling better. Since you're spoiling for a ping-pong, I
await your rejoinder with alacrity.
Goodnight.
Saul.
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Gambian police fire on student protest; 9 dead
April 10, 2000
Web posted at: 7:03 PM EDT (2303 GMT)
BANJUL, Gambia (AP) -- Police opened fire on a student demonstration Monday,
killing at least nine people, including a journalist.
The Gambia Students Union was denied a permit for the march organized in
protest against the recent death of a high school student, who was allegedly
tortured by security force members, and the reported rape of a 13-year-old
girl by a police officer.
When students gathered at the gate of the Gambia Technical Training
Institute to march to the city center, police ordered them to disperse, then
opened fire with tear gas and rubber bullets. The students scattered, but
later regrouped, setting up barricades with burning tires and throwing
stones at the police. Government buildings were attacked, a police station
set on fire and stores looted as unemployed youths joined in the fray.
Police apparently used live ammunition to restore order, killing at least
eight students, morgue officials said. Many more were injured, though
hospital staff did not have exact figures.
Omar Barrow, an International Committee of the Red Cross volunteer and
journalist with the private Sud FM radio station, was hit by a stray bullet
while trying to help injured students at Red Cross headquarters, witnesses
said.
"This is a criminal act, which should not go unpunished," said human rights
activist Ebrima Jallow.
The government blamed student leaders for the rioting in a statement issued
Monday afternoon, and ordered the immediate closure of all schools until
further notice. Dozens of students were arrested.
Calm prevailed Monday night, as police and soldiers maintained a heavy
presence in the city's largely deserted streets.
President Yahya Jammeh's government regularly harasses and arrests
opponents, including journalists and politicians. Jammeh seized power in
July 1994 and was elected to office two years later in voting that was
widely questioned by international observers and opposition groups.
Gambia, a sliver of a nation that follows along a river of the same name, is
surrounded by Senegal on Africa's western edge.
Copyright 2000 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may
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Reports coming from Banjul the capital of Gambia says that nine students
have been killed during the violent crises. The students have been on strike
and have been burning police stations, fire stations and even a post office
was burnt down. These incidence occurred after one student was found raped
by a police officer and the previous tortured of a student in Birkama by the
name Ebrima Barry. Reports say the schools in the Greater Banjul Area are
closed temporally until further notice. There is shortage of blood in the
Royal Victoria Hospital and every thing seems to be disastrous . Our
condolences to the families of the death students and we hope that the
authorities will take-up the students protests very seriously, and the
people behind the killings brought to justice.
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I also agree with Abdoulie with the pertinent issues he has raised. Venting
out anger on the L is fine but channelling such anger in the right direction
would be even better. Abdoulie again reminded us of the need for all of us
to join the Campaign for Free and Fair Elections in The Gambia. I must say i
have been very disappointed with the level of response to this important
issue. With general elections in the Gambia imminent, i couldnt believe the
irrelevant and monadane issues that were dominating the L. Does it have to
take six dead students to bring us back to the reality of the problem in the
Gambia? I join all those who have condemned these senseless killings. Our
petitions should not only go to Jammeh, but to the UN Human Rights
Commissioner, Mary Robinson, the UN Secretary General and the Commonwealth
Secretary. Lets not forget that if enough Gambians send protest letters to
these world figures, Jammeh will be investigated and possibly sanctioned.
The death of these innocent students must not go unpunished. My condolences
to all the families who lost dear ones. May their souls rest in eternal
peace.
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>I concur totally with Dr Saine regarding petitioning Yaya Jammeh. Chances
>are he'll thrash all of them, but just for the record, we need to make our
>feelings heard. One would think that driving the economy down the ground,
>and constantly harassing it's opponents would be enough for this govt. But
>no! They have to murder kids! What type of rule is this? How can Gambians
>be
>so cruel to each other? I'm tired, and totally numb right now. All I know
>is
>that every decent Gambian should do his/her utmost to get rid of this
>regime. I agree with the sentiments expressed by Prince Coker, Ousman
>Bojang
>and others. Even for a criminal govt, the Jammeh regime is really outdoing
>itself in the barbarism arena. God help our people.
>
>Saul.
>
>>Gambia-L Community:
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>>This is tragic! If these reports are accurate, (and I have no reason to
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Latjor,
Your idea of a petition is good but sending them to Gambian missions will
not help. These petitions must bwe addressed to the UN High Commissioner for
Human Rights, Mary Robinson, UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan and the
Commonwealth Secretary General. These are under international pressure to
deal with wanton abuses of human rights such as witnessed in the Gambia.
Each and very member of L must be encouraged to send an e-mail to all these
people. That is the only way to move our collective protest from the L to
the International scene.
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>Greetings:
>I join the rest in expressing my condolences to the families of the
>deceased
>students.
>I also express my indignation to this attrocities perpetrated by the
>officers. All reports being received indicate that only students and
>civilians died, killed by 'law enforcement officers'. While some have
>cautioned to wait for the full details of this attrocity to come out, one
>cannot deny that at the very least, the officers over stepped the
>boundaries
>of human dignity.
>If they were provoked by the students, assuming that was the case here
>(there was reporting of looting by the students), the officers ought to
>have
>simply arrested the students using restrained force. I am sure they have
>other less deadly tools of their trade that would have been more
>appropriate. But using deadly force??? No! No! No!
>What do we do? Certainly move in the direction suggested by Dr. Saine,
>Alpha
>and others.
>My suggestion is to also mobilize our respective communities, draft a
>protest letter to be signed by as many people as possible and submit it to
>the Gambian Missions abroad, while also following through with the other
>suggestions being developed here.
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I joined the list in condemning the acted of the Jammeh bucthers and to
extend my condolences to all the families affect. This just goes to expose
the level of paranoia in his administration.
As if Jammeh's thugs have not hurt Gambian parents, they are still picking
up and detaining students like criminals. I hope the parents will send a
clear message to him today that unless their loved ones are released
unconditionally and those bandits brought to justice, they will not be
reporting to work.
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Latjor,
I agree with your suggestion of writing petitions but sending them to
Gambian missions will not help. The petitions, which must be mobilised, have
to be sent to the folloewing: the UN Human Rights Commissioner, Mary
Robinson, UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan, and the Commonmwealth Secretary
General. What happened in the Gambia was abuse of human rights and if
enough Gambians petition these three international figures, i can assure you
that the incident will be investigated and the international pressure will
be brought to bear on the responsible culprits. Have'nt you seen what is
going on in Yugoslavia. Those who abused the rights of Bosnian muslims are
now being brought to book. We must take our fight to the international level
and all we need to do that is enough petitions to those who have been
appointed as international watch dogs for human rights. Lets do it.
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>Greetings:
>I join the rest in expressing my condolences to the families of the
>deceased
>students.
>I also express my indignation to this attrocities perpetrated by the
>officers. All reports being received indicate that only students and
>civilians died, killed by 'law enforcement officers'. While some have
>cautioned to wait for the full details of this attrocity to come out, one
>cannot deny that at the very least, the officers over stepped the
>boundaries
>of human dignity.
>If they were provoked by the students, assuming that was the case here
>(there was reporting of looting by the students), the officers ought to
>have
>simply arrested the students using restrained force. I am sure they have
>other less deadly tools of their trade that would have been more
>appropriate. But using deadly force??? No! No! No!
>What do we do? Certainly move in the direction suggested by Dr. Saine,
>Alpha
>and others.
>My suggestion is to also mobilize our respective communities, draft a
>protest letter to be signed by as many people as possible and submit it to
>the Gambian Missions abroad, while also following through with the other
>suggestions being developed here.
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Saul,
Thanks a bunch for speaking my mind. I'm glad I went through all the replies
on the subject first. I couldn't have said it as eloquently as you did.
Regards.
Kabir
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>Mr. Ambassador,
>
>To add to what Yus has said, your attempt to exonerate your govt without
>being seen as the govt spokesman reeks of sickening hypocrisy. You see Mr.
>Sey, things like this savagery are becoming common place in our nation,
>thanks to Yaya Jammeh. The problem is not the ignoramuses in uniform, it's
>the ENVIRONMENT that enables them to commit such atrocities with impunity.
>Now, who created that environment? Simply Mr. Essa Bokarr, you have an
>incredible bad taste to even attempt such shameless cover-up of the SOURCE
>of this butchery!
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Hi Prince,
May I first of all expressed my deepest sympathy and sorrow to the
families of the deceased for the untimely dead of their heros and
loved ones, in an unforeseen circumstances, APRIL 10,2000.
Prince, this is another case where the blame is not squarely on the
people who pulled the triger on innocent lives but onto those who gave
the orders for a triger to be pulled.
Prince, you see, in any criminal offence among individuals, there must
be an element of conspiracy first, to commit the said act. To conspire
in simple terms, means an agreement between two or more individuals
who plan in order to execute their ill intentions. If a soldier is
trained only to obey commands and to kill but not to be killed, and
subsequently, the soldier is giving command to kill as part of his
job. Who is to blame in this instance, if he is giving the command to
kill and he killed? The one who gave the commands and the one who
executed the command are both answerable.
I think, the army should only be trained to kill but should also be
trained to undertake other skills like engineers, constructors and
other skills, whereby the soldiers weapon would not only be restricted
to the gun but on other avenues that distract one from this monster
weapon.
The teacher who took Ebrima Barry to the Fire service is responsible
for whatever transpired at the fire station to Ebrima, as well as the
fire men who listened to Ebrima's teacher in torturing him.
If Ebrima was not taken to the fire station by the teacher, all these
violence we are now witnessing, would not have happened. Think about
that.
Haruna Farage
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Haruna,
This piece was being written when the butchering of these young and innocent st
udents was emerging on the List.
Please read Yus's posting properly. He neither used the word "exonerated" nor im
plied to it for once. What Yus is saying is that the emphasis of blame should
bemore on those who murdered Ebrima Barry than the teacher. There is no legal
system that I know of, where the teacher could be held solely accountable for
the de ath of Barry. You said the teacher is "culpable" Yes, that maybe true,
but culpa bility is not always premeditation. It is a common thing for one to be
"culpable " of something that he is innocent of. The news of the massacre of
these poor iswhat Yusupha Jow is talking about. Are we now going to blame what
led to the demonstration or people who pulled the trigger?
The fact is YAYA MUST GO!!! AND GO HE WILL.
Prince
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<P><FONT size=2>Please read Yus's posting properly. He neither used the word
"exonerated" nor implied to it for once. What Yus is saying is that the emphasis
of blame should be more on those who murdered Ebrima Barry than the teacher.
There is no legal system that I know of, where the teacher could be held solely
accountable for the death of Barry. You said the teacher is "culpable" Yes, that
maybe true, but culpability is not always premeditation. It is a common thing
for one to be "culpable" of something that he is innocent of. The news of the
massacre of these poor is what Yusupha Jow is talking about. Are we now going to
blame what led to the demonstration or people who pulled the trigger? </P>
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Your "excellency" Bokarr Sey, it is absolutely shocking and sad that you have
chosen this moment to further your government's cause. As an official
representative of the Gambia govt, you should have joined all of us in
condemning what happened today. Instead you chose to represent yourself and
govt by using half truths and half baked statements.
In your attempt to dissociate the regime from today's tragic incident you
state:
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I want to put it you personally that there is no one amongst us serving under
Jammeh and Jammeh himself who would be so irresponsible to order the massacre
of students
Unquote
In response to this statement, my question is whether the top military
commanders in the GNA do not serve under Jammeh? Unless the military chain
of command has completely crumbled, your statement, coming from the Gambian
Ambassador to France, should be considered as a shameful attempt to cover the
truth.
In your continuing bumbled attempt to defend I don't know what, you state:
Quote
I want those of you whirling accusations to know that some of those students
who lost their lives are closely related to people working under Jammeh.Some
are related to Jammeh himself. Did you know that?
Unquote
This statement is not relevant in relation to what happened today. As far as
most of us are concerned, all that counts is that innocent students were
killed today. I even doubt the validity of the statement you made since
there is no evidence to support your claims.
Unfortunately, you have chosen this time to defend your regime. But history
Mr. Jow and co.
My choice was carefully calculated and i am equally shocked by the way i see some of you try to "forcefully" put people into positions that simple logic repells.There is no shame in trying to remind brothers and sisters to jointly see the issue at hand as a national tragedy,after all.However, you reserve the right to interprete my wriring as you wish.
The same deliberate and subjective judgements are raining on me now,this was obviously what i expected.Mr Jow i am in no way trying to exonerate any person or regime.My point is simple and straight forward and i maintain it.One of the children who died is my relative believe me or not thats your opinion and you have the right to either reject or accept what i say.
Mr Jow please note that i practicalise my support for those poor students by lobbying for support from all quarters.A ontainer full of chairs,exercise books,wheel chairs etc that has been loaded from a city called Dieppe in France is on the to the Gambia.I collaborated with Alhaji soriba Gassama(the former president of the supreme islamic council) to get those materials transported to schools and clinics in the Gambia.
Thats only to let you know a bit of what i am doing for students in the Gambia.You can call soriba Gassama to find out.Part of my priorities as Ambassador is to do a ot for our school children.One of the dossiers on my desk now is to look into the possibilties for vocational training in favour of Gambians in the canary islands.This is just to let you know that your attempts to deliberately say that i am not on the side of the students is FALSE and intended to politicise the situation.
My father was a teacher and died a teacher like yours and both of them we should pray for to rest in peace.So Mr Jow my position is not to apply cosmetics but is rather intended to let you feel that no one in the Gvt.will enjoy seeing students being killed please lets argue reasonably.
My intention is not to be playing a merry go-round game with anyone on the forum,however, my believe is that there is no shame as Ambassador to exchange views with anyone on such important issues.
Essa Bokarr SEY.
has been the best judge of tyrants and their coconspirators. Time will tell!
Yus
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<P>Your "excellency" Bokarr Sey, it is absolutely shocking and sad that you have<BR>chosen this moment to further your government's cause. As an official<BR>representative of the Gambia govt, you should have joined all of us in<BR>condemning what happened today. Instead you chose to represent yourself and<BR>govt by using half truths and half baked statements.<BR><BR>In your attempt to dissociate the regime from today's tragic incident you<BR>state:<BR>Quote<BR>I want to put it you personally that there is no one amongst us serving under<BR>Jammeh and Jammeh himself who would be so irresponsible to order the massacre<BR>of students<BR>Unquote<BR><BR>In response to this statement, my question is whether the top military<BR>commanders in the GNA do not serve under Jammeh? Unless the military chain<BR>of command has completely crumbled, your statement, coming from the Gambian<BR>Ambassador to France, should be considered as a shameful attempt to cover the<BR>truth.<BR><BR>In your continuing bumbled attempt to defend I don't know what, you state:<BR>Quote<BR>I want those of you whirling accusations to know that some of those students<BR>who lost their lives are closely related to people working under Jammeh.Some<BR>are related to Jammeh himself. Did you know that?<BR>Unquote<BR><BR>This statement is not relevant in relation to what happened today. As far as<BR>most of us are concerned, all that counts is that innocent students were<BR>killed today. I even doubt the validity of the statement you made since<BR>there is no evidence to support your claims.<BR><BR>Unfortunately, you have chosen this time to defend your regime. But history<BR></P>
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<P>The same deliberate and subjective judgements are raining on me now,this was obviously what i expected.Mr Jow i am in no way trying to exonerate any person or regime.My point is simple and straight forward and i maintain it.One of the children who died is my relative believe me or not thats your opinion and you have the right to either reject or accept what i say.</P>
<P>Mr Jow please note that i practicalise my support for those poor students by lobbying for support from all quarters.A ontainer full of chairs,exercise books,wheel chairs etc that has been loaded from a city called Dieppe in France is on the to the Gambia.I collaborated with Alhaji soriba Gassama(the former president of the supreme islamic council) to get those materials transported to schools and clinics in the Gambia.</P>
<P>Thats only to let you know a bit of what i am doing for students in the Gambia.You can call soriba Gassama to find out.Part of my priorities as Ambassador is to do a ot for our school children.One of the dossiers on my desk now is to look into the possibilties for vocational training in favour of Gambians in the canary islands.This is just to let you know that your attempts to deliberately say that i am not on the side of the students is FALSE and intended to politicise the situation. </P>
<P>My father was a teacher and died a teacher like yours and both of them we should pray for to rest in peace.So Mr Jow my position is not to apply cosmetics but is rather intended to let you feel that no one in the Gvt.will enjoy seeing students being killed please lets argue reasonably.</P>
<P>My intention is not to be playing a merry go-round game with anyone on the forum,however, my believe is that there is no shame as Ambassador to exchange views with anyone on such important issues.</P>
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Saul,
Out of all that you said i'll let you know that the best is to tackle things logically.Mr.khan since i joined this forum i've been a keen follower of all your postings but one thing i want you to know is that,
Questions like who are you?ETC.Do not pain me because as far as i am concerned i am nothing else
but a human being.I will not be around receiving your unwarranted bitterness you can continue to say whatever you want because that is your identity on the forum.You've been doing the same to others before me so rest assured that i'll repell all baseless articles from you without hesitation.
Apart from that i won't respond to your personal attacks because you do not know me personally and i am sure that your "roaring" pride will let you say in your next art.that you don't care to know who i am.
Please lets not be reacting with hatred.Your response has confirmed to me that you personally hate others.That in itself reduces ones qualities. Come what may Mr khan please lets not hate each other. My eyes are full of tears to see you a Gambian brother write to me with hatred!
Why saul? WHY? LETS NOT HATE EACH OTHER PLEASE.
Essa Bokarr Sey
saul khan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mr. Ambassador,
To add to what Yus has said, your attempt to exonerate your govt without
being seen as the govt spokesman reeks of sickening hypocrisy. You see Mr.
Sey, things like this savagery are becoming common place in our nation,
thanks to Yaya Jammeh. The problem is not the ignoramuses in uniform, it's
the ENVIRONMENT that enables them to commit such atrocities with impunity.
Now, who created that environment? Simply Mr. Essa Bokarr, you have an
incredible bad taste to even attempt such shameless cover-up of the SOURCE
of this butchery!
If you already know the names of the murdered students, why don't you list
their names! I have no doubt that when the dust settles, neither you nor
Yaya Jammeh's blood relatives will be among the victims! We're talking about
a regime that lets it's soldier beat up women for no reason, a regime that
lets soldiers rape school girls with impunity, a regime that lets anyone in
uniform act as a personification of the law. And you wonder why people hate
the regime? And people are jumping to conclusions regarding the wanton
murder of 13 people according to the latest figures? What in the world could
possibly justify the killing of 13 people including 6/7 school children? And
we should all keep quiet and be patient, and wait for the govt's
investigation! Is'nt this the same govt that is still "investigating" the
brutal murder of Ousman Korro Ceesay more than five years after the fact?
Who the hell are you to tell Gambians we cannot express our outrage against
the madness that our country has become thanks to Yaya Jammeh, and
shameless, greedy, and hypocritical professionals like yourself? You ought
to be ashamed of yourself! Ousman Bojang speaks for the majority of
Gambians whether you like it or not!
Because I'm tired, and currently nursing a pounding headache, I'll cut this
short, but be assured that your attempt to pre-empt a critique of your sorry
defence of this govt will not succeed. You happen to represent a corrupt,
inept, illegitimate, and totally barbaric regime. If you're comfortable with
that, that's your choice. But if you think that you can put up a bunch of
crap on this List to defend the indefensible, and get away with it, you're
simply dreaming in Cloud Cuckoo Land. If needs be, I'll take up this issue
tomorrow when I'm feeling better. Since you're spoiling for a ping-pong, I
await your rejoinder with alacrity.
Goodnight.
Saul.
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<P>Questions like who are you?ETC.Do not pain me because as far as i am concerned i am nothing else</P>
<P>but a human being.I will not be around receiving your unwarranted bitterness you can continue to say whatever you want because that is your identity on the forum.You've been doing the same to others before me so rest assured that i'll repell all baseless articles from you without hesitation.</P>
<P>Apart from that i won't respond to your personal attacks because you do not know me personally and i am sure that your "roaring" pride will let you say in your next art.that you don't care to know who i am.</P>
<P>Please lets not be reacting with hatred.Your response has confirmed to me that you personally hate others.That in itself reduces ones qualities. Come what may Mr khan please lets not hate each other. My eyes are full of tears to see you a Gambian brother write to me with hatred!</P>
<P>Why saul? WHY? LETS NOT HATE EACH OTHER PLEASE.</P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Mr. Ambassador,<BR><BR>To add to what Yus has said, your attempt to exonerate your govt without<BR>being seen as the govt spokesman reeks of sickening hypocrisy. You see Mr.<BR>Sey, things like this savagery are becoming common place in our nation,<BR>thanks to Yaya Jammeh. The problem is not the ignoramuses in uniform, it's<BR>the ENVIRONMENT that enables them to commit such atrocities with impunity.<BR>Now, who created that environment? Simply Mr. Essa Bokarr, you have an<BR>incredible bad taste to even attempt such shameless cover-up of the SOURCE<BR>of this butchery!<BR><BR>If you already know the names of the murdered students, why don't you list<BR>their names! I have no doubt that when the dust settles, neither you nor<BR>Yaya Jammeh's blood relatives will be among the victims! We're talking about<BR>a regime that lets it's soldier beat up women for no reason, a regime that<BR>lets soldiers rape school girls with impunity, a regime that lets anyone in<BR>uniform act as a personification of the law. And you wonder why people hate<BR>the regime? And people are jumping to conclusions regarding the wanton<BR>murder of 13 people according to the latest figures? What in the world could<BR>possibly justify the killing of 13 people including 6/7 school children? And<BR>we should all keep quiet and be patient, and wait for the govt's<BR>investigation! Is'nt this the same govt that is still "investigating" the<BR>brutal murder of Ousman Korro Ceesay more than five years after the fact?<BR>Who the hell are you to tell Gambians we cannot express our outrage against<BR>the madness that our country has become thanks to Yaya Jammeh, and<BR>shameless, greedy, and hypocritical professionals like yourself? You ought<BR>to be ashamed of yourself! Ousman Bojang speaks for the majority of<BR>Gambians whether you like it or not!<BR><BR>Because I'm tired, and currently nursing a pounding headache, I'll cut this<BR>short, but be assured that your attempt to pre-empt a critique of your sorry<BR>defence of this govt will not succeed. You happen to represent a corrupt,<BR>inept, illegitimate, and totally barbaric regime. If you're comfortable with<BR>that, that's your choice. But if you think that you can put up a bunch of<BR>crap on this List to defend the indefensible, and get away with it, you're<BR>simply dreaming in Cloud Cuckoo Land. If needs be, I'll take up this issue<BR>tomorrow when I'm feeling better. Since you're spoiling for a ping-pong, I<BR>await your rejoinder with alacrity.<BR><BR>Goodnight.<BR><BR>Saul.<BR><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>Ousman Bojang <[log in to unmask]>wrote:<BR><BR>______________________________________________________<BR>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com<BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L<BR>Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html<BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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I join everyone in mourning the deaths and solidarity to the injured. My =
solidarity also goes to the students in taking such a courageous move to =
show the government that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I just could not believe my =
ears upon arrival in UK. I called home to speak to my mum and she told =
me that "Ndey, today our hearts are broken, broken to the disbelief that =
soldiers who are suppose to protect the students can just kill them on a =
peaceful demonstrations" " You should just see these kids in the wrong =
place which is the DEATH HOUSE" These words hit me so hard that I =
refused to believe it, but like Ous has said one should not be suprised =
but I must say I just could not get over this brutality. This is a =
lesson to the regime that all the guns of the world, the casuistry of =
dictatorship and the threat of death and imprisonment cannot deter a =
people determined to secure their rights and justice.
Reflecting and accessing these developments at home and watching Gambia =
go down the drain through the incompetence and banditry of the ruling =
military and civilian politicians, I became strongly in my conviction =
that the only thing that could save Gambia is the political =
restructuring of the country.
I do agree on some of the suggestions that are coming up to write a =
protest letter but I do also believe that we have to mobilise and =
condemn this act right at the front of the Gambian Mission were ever =
they are and there are Gambians. Unfortunately I am on my way to =
Nigeria this evening but hopefully I will be able to have easy access to =
the net.
As Ken Sara Wiwa wrote " to be at the mercy of buffoons is the ultimate =
insult, To find the instruments of the state power reducing you to dust =
is the injury"
The Struggle Continues!!!
Ndey Jobarteh
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Mr. Sey,
Look at the shameful way in which you are trying to divert attention
from the real issue at hand here.
First you try to defend the indefensible, and when faced by
overwhelming condemnation of your running dog attitude, instead of
doing the hounarable thing, you try to shift the focus away from the
real problem. Saul's attitude is not the issue here! We are talking
about the murder of Gambian school children, for heaven sake!
Dictators like the one you represent have been known to murder even
their close family members. Saul's position on this issue (mass murder)
is shared by all who've cared to raise their voices, except of course
you and we all know why. Don't sell your soul to the devil brother.
Remember all you say on this forum will be achived and history shall be
the judge.
If every member of this list had Saul's attitude, clowns like the ones
you represent would never rule over our people.
Writers and poets side with their people not with the oppressors of the
people. When next I need to give an example of a true reactionary, I
know where to look.
It does not matter how many containers you ship to the Gambia for the
benifit of students if you adapt an apologetic stance when they are
turtured, raped and gunned down by virtual zombies when they dare to
protest.
Yes, there are those of us who have consciences and shall make our
voices heard, no matter what!
Kabir.
--- Essa Sey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Saul,
>
> Out of all that you said i'll let you know that the best is to
> tackle things logically.Mr.khan since i joined this forum i've been a
> keen follower of all your postings but one thing i want you to know
> is that,
>
> Questions like who are you?ETC.Do not pain me because as far as i am
> concerned i am nothing else
>
> but a human being.I will not be around receiving your unwarranted
> bitterness you can continue to say whatever you want because that is
> your identity on the forum.You've been doing the same to others
> before me so rest assured that i'll repell all baseless articles from
> you without hesitation.
>
> Apart from that i won't respond to your personal attacks because you
> do not know me personally and i am sure that your "roaring" pride
> will let you say in your next art.that you don't care to know who i
> am.
>
> Please lets not be reacting with hatred.Your response has confirmed
> to me that you personally hate others.That in itself reduces ones
> qualities. Come what may Mr khan please lets not hate each other. My
> eyes are full of tears to see you a Gambian brother write to me with
> hatred!
>
> Why saul? WHY? LETS NOT HATE EACH OTHER PLEASE.
>
>
> Essa Bokarr Sey
>
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Fellow Gambians,
I believed to have been hitted by thurnderbolt as the message about the
student massacre in the Gambia reach me yesterday.
I thought of my own schooldays and my active years in then NUGS. I thought
of the 1986/87 student's strike at the sting-corner junction.
Lord of mercy I woud have dead was the Gambia then ruled by such idiots.
I thought of Moja-G members who were victims of the police arrests. Would
they live to tell their stories?
What is going on in the Gambia today is not military but rather babaric and
inhuman. It reminds of the then "MANSAS" like Musa-molo. Power absulute.
The world have seen dictators come and go, and I bet Jammeh will also go.
And he will go down in history as one of the most senseless, brutal and
corrupt leaders of the modern world.
However, sisters and brother, I think we now have reached the top of the
iceberg. Now the time has come where every honest and sincere Gambian must
join vanguards of justice for a better Gambia for every GAMBIAN.
Now the the dictator dug his own grave completely why should we wait longer
with the burial. This government indeed deserves no longer our confidence
and help this is why I suggest:
1. All those civilians working with this government should resign
immediately. For a government that pays no heed to the life's and needs of
its citizen deserves not to be served.
2. I heard of the arrest of GAMSU -leadership. We must demand for their
immediate release. Should they sustain injuries or lost of income while
under police custody then we have to give every support necessary to get
them compensated.
3. I understood that GAMSU demand the remains of their compatriots who died
in action in order to give the type of burial these people deserved. We
must give them every support to enable them realise this goal. And from now
should even a rat die in through these people its remains must be handed to
its owners to enable them pay the due respect to it.
4.Irrespective of our political positions we should join hands, plan
together, share ideas and demonstrate our strenght and our dislike to this
regime. Therefore I urge the opposition partys to mobilise their members and
sympathizers and go out in the streets and press for the resignation of the
entire cabinet.
5.Meanwhile Gambians abroad should actively mobilise and expose this
government. Those in America should demonstrate in thier respective local
arears and also draw the attention of the house of senates. The same thing
needs to be done in europe. And those in europe should organise one big
demonstration outside the parliment buildings of the EU in Brussels.
Local co-ordinating committees need to be put up and they in turn, together
with the forces at home will form the international co-ordination
committees.
At this point I would suggest to name people from our various ends who will
help in building this local co-ordinating committees. I think this will
facilitate the work. From our end (that is Germany )
I am suggesting Alpha Robinson to lead this.
Please send in the names of those you think could man this task under the
following subject "Local task force". I wish if the opposition parties would
also submitt the names of their respresentatives.
I thank you all.
Pettidu
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Monsieur Njie,
No shame no dog attitude but the eagerness for the decency of our intellectual discorse is what matters.You are posing as someone who's trying to rectify but you're also submerged that usual attitudenal problem.Call me whatever, no problem and please take all my articles and put them in a metalic safe for your future court,this is serious! IMPATIENCE THRU OUT.
Mr.Njie i am not a poet to be blindfolded by insults and curses from you or any other person please.This forum as far as i can understand is for all and sundry whether you support The current Gvt or not!
DR TOURAY PLEASE UNSUBSRIBE ME FORTHWITH BECAUSE MY FEELINGS ARE THS FORUM IS CREATED FOR HATRED and nothing else!
Thanks to those who care and wish you well
Essa Bokarr Sey.
Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mr. Sey,
Look at the shameful way in which you are trying to divert attention
from the real issue at hand here.
First you try to defend the indefensible, and when faced by
overwhelming condemnation of your running dog attitude, instead of
doing the hounarable thing, you try to shift the focus away from the
real problem. Saul's attitude is not the issue here! We are talking
about the murder of Gambian school children, for heaven sake!
Dictators like the one you represent have been known to murder even
their close family members. Saul's position on this issue (mass murder)
is shared by all who've cared to raise their voices, except of course
you and we all know why. Don't sell your soul to the devil brother.
Remember all you say on this forum will be achived and history shall be
the judge.
If every member of this list had Saul's attitude, clowns like the ones
you represent would never rule over our people.
Writers and poets side with their people not with the oppressors of the
people. When next I need to give an example of a true reactionary, I
know where to look.
It does not matter how many containers you ship to the Gambia for the
benifit of students if you adapt an apologetic stance when they are
turtured, raped and gunned down by virtual zombies when they dare to
protest.
Yes, there are those of us who have consciences and shall make our
voices heard, no matter what!
Kabir.
--- Essa Sey wrote:
> Saul,
>
> Out of all that you said i'll let you know that the best is to
> tackle things logically.Mr.khan since i joined this forum i've been a
> keen follower of all your postings but one thing i want you to know
> is that,
>
> Questions like who are you?ETC.Do not pain me because as far as i am
> concerned i am nothing else
>
> but a human being.I will not be around receiving your unwarranted
> bitterness you can continue to say whatever you want because that is
> your identity on the forum.You've been doing the same to others
> before me so rest assured that i'll repell all baseless articles from
> you without hesitation.
>
> Apart from that i won't respond to your personal attacks because you
> do not know me personally and i am sure that your "roaring" pride
> will let you say in your next art.that you don't care to know who i
> am.
>
> Please lets not be reacting with hatred.Your response has confirmed
> to me that you personally hate others.That in itself reduces ones
> qualities. Come what may Mr khan please lets not hate each other. My
> eyes are full of tears to see you a Gambian brother write to me with
> hatred!
>
> Why saul? WHY? LETS NOT HATE EACH OTHER PLEASE.
>
>
> Essa Bokarr Sey
>
Mr njie,
Go ahead and call me whatever;you are not conversant wth decent intellectual discourse thats why you call people DOGS etc.
Shame is for those who hide and talk but i am here dealing with the issue as a Gambian.
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<P> Mr.Njie i am not a poet to be blindfolded by insults and curses from you or any other person please.This forum as far as i can understand is for all and sundry whether you support The current Gvt or not! </P>
<P> DR TOURAY PLEASE UNSUBSRIBE ME FORTHWITH BECAUSE MY FEELINGS ARE THS FORUM IS CREATED FOR HATRED and nothing else!</P>
<P> Thanks to those who care and wish you well</P>
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<P>Mr. Sey,<BR><BR>Look at the shameful way in which you are trying to divert attention<BR>from the real issue at hand here.<BR><BR>First you try to defend the indefensible, and when faced by<BR>overwhelming condemnation of your running dog attitude, instead of<BR>doing the hounarable thing, you try to shift the focus away from the<BR>real problem. Saul's attitude is not the issue here! We are talking<BR>about the murder of Gambian school children, for heaven sake!<BR><BR>Dictators like the one you represent have been known to murder even<BR>their close family members. Saul's position on this issue (mass murder)<BR>is shared by all who've cared to raise their voices, except of course<BR>you and we all know why. Don't sell your soul to the devil brother.<BR>Remember all you say on this forum will be achived and history shall be<BR>the judge.<BR><BR>If every member of this list had Saul's attitude, clowns like the ones<BR>you represent would never rule over our people.<BR><BR>Writers and poets side with their people not with the oppressors of the<BR>people. When next I need to give an example of a true reactionary, I<BR>know where to look.<BR><BR>It does not matter how many containers you ship to the Gambia for the<BR>benifit of students if you adapt an apologetic stance when they are<BR>turtured, raped and gunned down by virtual zombies when they dare to<BR>protest.<BR><BR>Yes, there are those of us who have consciences and shall make our<BR>voices heard, no matter what!<BR><BR>Kabir.<BR><BR>--- Essa Sey <[log in to unmask]>wrote:<BR>> Saul,<BR>><BR>> Out of all that you said i'll let you know that the best is to<BR>> tackle things logically.Mr.khan since i joined this forum i've been a<BR>> keen follower of all your postings but one thing i want you to know<BR>> is that,<BR>><BR>> Questions like who are you?ETC.Do not pain me because as far as i am<BR>> concerned i am nothing else<BR>><BR>> but a human being.I will not be around receiving your unwarranted<BR>> bitterness you can continue to say whatever you want because that is<BR>> your identity on the forum.You've been doing the same to others<BR>> before me so rest assured that i'll repell all baseless articles from<BR>> you without hesitation.<BR>><BR>> Apart from that i won't respond to your personal attacks because you<BR>> do not know me personally and i am sure that your "roaring" pride<BR>> will let you say in your next art.that you don't care to know who i<BR>> am.<BR>><BR>> Please lets not be reacting with hatred.Your response has confirmed<BR>> to me that you personally hate others.That in itself reduces ones<BR>> qualities. Come what may Mr khan please lets not hate each other. My<BR>> eyes are full of tears to see you a Gambian brother write to me with<BR>> hatred!<BR>><BR>> Why saul? WHY? LETS NOT HATE EACH OTHER PLEASE.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Essa Bokarr Sey<BR>><BR><BR><BR></P>
<P>Mr njie,</P>
<P> Go ahead and call me whatever;you are not conversant wth decent intellectual discourse thats why you call people DOGS etc.</P>
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"YOU MUST BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE IN THE WORLD". Mahatma Ghandi
I join Gambians the world over in condemning the barbarism that has been
visited upon our FUTURE. I mourn the deaths of these courageous souls and I
extend my condolences to all parents in the Gambia.
I have not been able to stop the tears since hearing of the MASSACRE. How
do I say to parents mourning the lose of a child that YOUR CHILD WAS/IS PART
OF SOMETHING POSITIVE; THAT YOUR CHILD KNEW THAT TO CHALLENGE THE STATUS-QUO
IS TO BE LIBERATED; THROUGH THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS THESE KIDS TOOK NECESSARY
ACTION IN THE HOPES OF TRANSFORMING OUR SOCIETY; THESE KIDS KNOW THAT WHAT
WE HAVE IN THE GAMBIA IS A PERVERSION REALITY; AFTERALL, WHAT IS OPPORTUNITY
WITHOUT FREEDOM? HOW CAN THESE PARENTS SEE THROUGH THEIR PAIN THAT THEIR
LOSE IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE IN VAIN? OR DO THEY KNOW THE IMPLICATIONS OF
THESE KIDS' ACTION? I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THEY DO.
The call for action has been heeded by these brave souls and nothing, not
even the guns will stop the massive wave of change that these students have
initiated. To the apologists for this sick, sick regime, FOR SHAME!!!
Victimizing and brutalizing our people will be stamped out by all and any
means necessary. Let's keep the mobilization effort going. Abdoulaye,
re-send your call for the letter writing campaign so that those of us who
were hesitant or were procrastinating will take action; If for no other
reason but to stand in solidarity with our brothers and sisters back home,
write and send those letters out. Do it! The inevitable consequence of our
inactivity will be our mendicant existence for as long as we keep quiet.
Let us cut the cancerous cells out.
Mr. Sey, the hatred you are talking about is visited on the Gambian people
by you and yours and I mean it personally. Think about it! The man you
serve is nothing but an egocentric wannabe who has a neurotic need to self
destruct and we are seeing it. Won't you jump out of the ship before it
sinks with you? Is it worth the respect that people have for you, your
dignity? What about your conscience?
In pain, feeling numb, yet knowing I can't sit still .....
For the liberation struggle
Soffie
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From: Yusupha Jow [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:54 PM
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Subject: Re: Massacre of Students in The Gambia
Your "excellency" Bokarr Sey, it is absolutely shocking and
sad that you have
chosen this moment to further your government's cause. As
an official
representative of the Gambia govt, you should have joined
all of us in
condemning what happened today. Instead you chose to
represent yourself and
govt by using half truths and half baked statements.
In your attempt to dissociate the regime from today's tragic
incident you
state:
Quote
I want to put it you personally that there is no one amongst
us serving under
Jammeh and Jammeh himself who would be so irresponsible to
order the massacre
of students
Unquote
In response to this statement, my question is whether the
top military
commanders in the GNA do not serve under Jammeh? Unless the
military chain
of command has completely crumbled, your statement, coming
from the Gambian
Ambassador to France, should be considered as a shameful
attempt to cover the
truth.
In your continuing bumbled attempt to defend I don't know
what, you state:
Quote
I want those of you whirling accusations to know that some
of those students
who lost their lives are closely related to people working
under Jammeh.Some
are related to Jammeh himself. Did you know that?
Unquote
This statement is not relevant in relation to what happened
today. As far as
most of us are concerned, all that counts is that innocent
students were
killed today. I even doubt the validity of the statement
you made since
there is no evidence to support your claims.
Unfortunately, you have chosen this time to defend your
regime. But history
has been the best judge of tyrants and their coconspirators.
Time will tell!
Yus
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:35:51 +0100
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Mr Sey,
If all your rumbling is true, why are they still picking up students and why
is it that over 200 students are detained in the police barrack in Banjul?
Why is it that Jammeh officials like yourself always accuse others of
politicising issues? Like your colleagues accuse the opposition of
politicising the groundnut issue.when and where will your government accept
liability? Your government is responsible for what had happen in the Gambia
Today and we will never forgive your government.
This is the only thing they do best harass and kill unarmed civilians but
run away when attacked in farafenni. I would once again like to call on
parents to stand by their children and not return to work until they are
released unconditionally.
A.A. Drammeh.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Saul Khan and who am i?
> Mr. Sey,
>
> Look at the shameful way in which you are trying to divert attention
> from the real issue at hand here.
>
> First you try to defend the indefensible, and when faced by
> overwhelming condemnation of your running dog attitude, instead of
> doing the hounarable thing, you try to shift the focus away from the
> real problem. Saul's attitude is not the issue here! We are talking
> about the murder of Gambian school children, for heaven sake!
>
> Dictators like the one you represent have been known to murder even
> their close family members. Saul's position on this issue (mass murder)
> is shared by all who've cared to raise their voices, except of course
> you and we all know why. Don't sell your soul to the devil brother.
> Remember all you say on this forum will be achived and history shall be
> the judge.
>
> If every member of this list had Saul's attitude, clowns like the ones
> you represent would never rule over our people.
>
> Writers and poets side with their people not with the oppressors of the
> people. When next I need to give an example of a true reactionary, I
> know where to look.
>
> It does not matter how many containers you ship to the Gambia for the
> benifit of students if you adapt an apologetic stance when they are
> turtured, raped and gunned down by virtual zombies when they dare to
> protest.
>
> Yes, there are those of us who have consciences and shall make our
> voices heard, no matter what!
>
> Kabir.
>
> --- Essa Sey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Saul,
> >
> > Out of all that you said i'll let you know that the best is to
> > tackle things logically.Mr.khan since i joined this forum i've been a
> > keen follower of all your postings but one thing i want you to know
> > is that,
> >
> > Questions like who are you?ETC.Do not pain me because as far as i am
> > concerned i am nothing else
> >
> > but a human being.I will not be around receiving your unwarranted
> > bitterness you can continue to say whatever you want because that is
> > your identity on the forum.You've been doing the same to others
> > before me so rest assured that i'll repell all baseless articles from
> > you without hesitation.
> >
> > Apart from that i won't respond to your personal attacks because you
> > do not know me personally and i am sure that your "roaring" pride
> > will let you say in your next art.that you don't care to know who i
> > am.
> >
> > Please lets not be reacting with hatred.Your response has confirmed
> > to me that you personally hate others.That in itself reduces ones
> > qualities. Come what may Mr khan please lets not hate each other. My
> > eyes are full of tears to see you a Gambian brother write to me with
> > hatred!
> >
> > Why saul? WHY? LETS NOT HATE EACH OTHER PLEASE.
> >
> >
> > Essa Bokarr Sey
> >
>
>
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I am at work right now and could not hold my tears when I read about this massacre in The Gambia. being a parent I know how those families are feeling right now !!!
Holding the kids in custody was the right move rather than killing them ....This is really insane and ridiculous.
Where are we heading to ??
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:14:12 MYT
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Fellow Gambians,
History,the recorder of all events,is now in progress in the
Great Gambia.The recent event which leads to the death of some students is
quite unfortunate.My condolence goes to the the family of the deceased
students.
It is very encouraging to see people expressing their concern
with regards to the issue currently at hand.But what is UNGAMBIAN is to use
foul languages against a fellow Gambia.The recent postings that surfaced
between Mr. Essa Sey and some friends do not reflect the true Gambian
nature.Thus I am appealing to those concern to please DROP IT and let us
focus mind on the current issue.
Let the struggle continues and may ALLAH blesses us.AMEN!
ARONA
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>Fellow Gambians,
>I believed to have been hitted by thurnderbolt as the message about the
>student massacre in the Gambia reach me yesterday.
>I thought of my own schooldays and my active years in then NUGS. I thought
>of the 1986/87 student's strike at the sting-corner junction.
>Lord of mercy I woud have dead was the Gambia then ruled by such idiots.
>I thought of Moja-G members who were victims of the police arrests. Would
>they live to tell their stories?
>What is going on in the Gambia today is not military but rather babaric and
>inhuman. It reminds of the then "MANSAS" like Musa-molo. Power absulute.
>The world have seen dictators come and go, and I bet Jammeh will also go.
>And he will go down in history as one of the most senseless, brutal and
>corrupt leaders of the modern world.
>However, sisters and brother, I think we now have reached the top of the
>iceberg. Now the time has come where every honest and sincere Gambian must
>join vanguards of justice for a better Gambia for every GAMBIAN.
>Now the the dictator dug his own grave completely why should we wait longer
>with the burial. This government indeed deserves no longer our confidence
>and help this is why I suggest:
>1. All those civilians working with this government should resign
>immediately. For a government that pays no heed to the life's and needs of
>its citizen deserves not to be served.
>2. I heard of the arrest of GAMSU -leadership. We must demand for their
>immediate release. Should they sustain injuries or lost of income while
>under police custody then we have to give every support necessary to get
>them compensated.
>3. I understood that GAMSU demand the remains of their compatriots who died
>in action in order to give the type of burial these people deserved. We
>must give them every support to enable them realise this goal. And from now
>should even a rat die in through these people its remains must be handed to
>its owners to enable them pay the due respect to it.
>4.Irrespective of our political positions we should join hands, plan
>together, share ideas and demonstrate our strenght and our dislike to
>this
>regime. Therefore I urge the opposition partys to mobilise their members
>and
>sympathizers and go out in the streets and press for the resignation of the
>entire cabinet.
>5.Meanwhile Gambians abroad should actively mobilise and expose this
>government. Those in America should demonstrate in thier respective local
>arears and also draw the attention of the house of senates. The same thing
>needs to be done in europe. And those in europe should organise one big
>demonstration outside the parliment buildings of the EU in Brussels.
>Local co-ordinating committees need to be put up and they in turn, together
>with the forces at home will form the international co-ordination
>committees.
>At this point I would suggest to name people from our various ends who will
>help in building this local co-ordinating committees. I think this will
>facilitate the work. From our end (that is Germany )
>I am suggesting Alpha Robinson to lead this.
>Please send in the names of those you think could man this task under the
>following subject "Local task force". I wish if the opposition parties
>would
>also submitt the names of their respresentatives.
>I thank you all.
>Pettidu
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What?!?
Didn't you say you were going to deal with all who dared to speak out =
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at defenceless school children but run away when faced with the truth?
And you dare to hide behind the grief of those victims' families to =
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My Fellow Gambians,
I think it is right time for all of us to join together and
condemn this evil and lawlessness behaviour of our security forces.
However, they suppose to protect our children and instead they took
the law into their own hands and murdered them. A country where there
is no effective legal system would inevitably allowed her security
forces to act in this barbaric manner.
I am completely worried about the future of the Gambia, as the
current situation left us with many questions to answer. How on earth
can you just used real bullets on students? Who asked the security
forces to shot at defenceless people in the street?
Please, let all of us take this opportunity to demonstrate our
angers towards these evil and irresponsible forces for the
atrocities. Those who died for this struggle deserve our greatest
sympathies. My deepest condolences to their families and love ones.
I will always remember them for their courage and fight against
injustice in our country. May God rest their souls in perfect peace.
B.Camara
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Gambia-L,
The situation in the country is occupying us. We have just seen some of your
comments and have decided to send you some of the things which had been
taking place by extracting them from FOROYAA. By tomorrow, we will be able
to give you concrete picture of what has taken place. We are still on the
ground.
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THE DEATH OF EBRIMA BARRY
A Case Study
To begin with, this is a comprehensive report on Ebrima Barry's death which
I feel should be reported in such a way as to help clarify some of the
unfounded and confusing stories relating to his death as carried out by the
Daily Observer Newspaper.
As the Information Minister of the Gambia College Students' Sub-union who
along side other GAMSU (Gambia Students' Union) officials, particularly the
vice president of the Union, Mr Alajie S. Darboe, were closely following the
result of the death of Ebrima Barry since it happened on 9 March 2000.
It is based on this that we had gathered enough information as to what had
happened since day one when violence erupted between the deceased and his
teacher at Foster's Vocational Training Centre and not the Senior Secondary
School. The former is known to many as the new site while the latter is
known as the old site (where the deceased was).
Below is a breakdown of facts of how everything went on systematically over
the whole incident:
AT THE SCHOOL
On March 13, 2000, a five person delegation from The Gambia College, on
behalf of GAMSU, visited the school where the deceased was, where we
addressed the students on matters of discipline and obedience, as well as
the role of the school administration in handling disciplinary matters and
not handing down such cases to the wrong agents in order not to repeat
another Ebrima Barry's case happening.
After which proceeding we were brought three witness statement forms from
the Brikama Police Station by one CID Officer in order to take down the
witness statements from among the deceased class mates. All the interviews
conducted with the Ebrima's class mates revealed the same story. Three were
selected. Thus, one of the witnesses stated that:
"It was on Tuesday, March 7, 2000 when I and the late Ebrima were sitting
together on the same bench at the back of the class when Mr Paul, the
Commerce Teacher, entered the class and instructed us to get seated in-front
of the class, which we did. But upon doing so, Ebrima was still instructed
to change position to another seat where the sun rays have their reflection.
Ebrima insisted on not going to that particular seat and complained of the
sun rays reflecting there.
"Meanwhile, a heated debate erupted between Ebrima and the teacher which
later resulted to the teacher scolding Ebrima. When Ebrima also scolded
back, he quickly gave the teacher a hard punch on the face; thus a fight
broke out. Then they were separated and Ebrima came back attacking and
insulting. He was then calmed down and he went home.
"Subsequently, the following day Ebrima was in class when Adjhao, the Senior
Master, went to report the matter to the Fire Station from where he appeared
with a Fire Officer before the class and went away with Ebrima...."
THE SENIOR TEACHER WHO REPORTED THE MATTER TO THE FIRE STATION
Mr Adjhao is the senior teacher responsible for the school. He confirmed
that he did report the matter to the Fire Station, but with the intention
that the officer will only witness the handing down of a suspension letter
to Ebrima and escort him out of the school premises and nothing more than
that.
He further attested that Ebrima came back to the school that very day with
the father, the Fire Officer and another old man in a bid to plead on behalf
of Ebrima. He said I accepted their apology and assured the father that
Ebrima could now come to school after the Tobaski prayer. "This was the last
time when I last saw Ebrima until on Thursday when I heard of his death",
remarked the sobbing and regretful senior master.
MISS CAMARA - EBRIMA'S CLASS TEACHER
Miss Camara, what can you say about Ebrima?
Miss Camara: "Well, Ebrima was an average student, but could have been more
than that if he always applied himself. Above all, Ebrima was very watchful
in class and did actively take part in class discussions but at time he
would just listen rather than participate. Ebrima is also very regular in
school", concluded the saddened and sympathetic looking class teacher.
THE DECEASED FATHER - ALIEU BARRY
On that same day, we visited the deceased's father by the name Alieu Barry
and he had this to say:-
The deceased's father swore sternly in order to authenticate what he knew
about the sad story he narrated before us. "I will not say what I do not
know about this incident, nor will I exaggerate the story on that ground
that they killed my son".
"I was never aware of Ebrima having such a problem at the school with his
teacher. I only came to know about this on Wednesday, March 8 at the market
when he Ebrima and a Fire Officer appeared before me. I was then told by the
Fire Officer to go along with them to the Fire Station upon the orders of
his boss. Upon arrival, I was told that my son had no discipline; that he
fought with his teachers and therefore was suspended from school. Then I
said to the Fire Officer to escort me back to the school to plead with the
master concerned over the issue.
"In school, I pleaded and apologised on Ebrima's behalf for him to be
forgiven of which I succeeded in doing at the end and I was assured that he
would be accepted back in school, but only after the Tobaski prayer.
"However, I went back to the Fire Station to put to them that I had now
settled the matter with the senior master. But surprisingly,I was told that
Ebrima had to stay with them and be disciplined. "In fact, we will shave his
hair without putting water", one among them remarked, said the father. So, I
thought may be they were only threatening him in order for him not to
misbehave in school any more. Thus I left Ebrima with them and went to the
market.
"Later in the evening, on the same day, I reached home only to be informed
that Ebrima was reported to have been in the Brikama Health Centre where it
was claimed that he would not be attended to by a nurse without me being
present. So off I quickly went to the Health Centre and found Ebrima bending
over the stomach complaining of severe general body pain. He was then
prescribed medication and asked to report the following day.
"Throughout the night, he could not sleep. He had a sleepless night. And
during that night, I asked Ebrima what went wrong. "I was beaten
mercilessly, shaved and water poured on me"."
I enquired from Ebrima's father whether he was given cement to eat and carry
bags of cement from one place to the other, as alleged, but the father
denied of such happening to him.
"The following morning, Thursday 9 March, I left for the market. But upon
arrival at the market, I was told to go back home because Ebrima's condition
had aggravated. On my way back home, I met an escorting vehicle on the way
taking Ebrima to the Health Centre and they stopped me. Upon getting into
the vehicle, I found Ebrima lying dead, but did not disclose it to the
people there. Quietly, we arrived at the Health Centre where the doctor
performed a test on him after which Ebrima was declared dead. Thus the dead
body was referred to the RVH for post-mortem.
AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL - Their Reaction
Upon hearing the news, we all felt bad about it. The tragedy was like a sad
and shocking state of affair that lured the bodies of the entire students.
We were all sympathetic over the death of a colleague and we felt that as a
family immediate and quick action needed to be taken against those
responsible for this barbaric and inhumane act. "They must be brought to
justice, for justice knows neither citizen nor policeman and justice delayed
is justice denied totally", remarked one student.
Apparently, we knew that investigations were on but we also knew for certain
that no arrest in connection with the death had been effected, which really
frustrated and got into our nerves.
Also, we did perceive that the word justice is one of the misused words in
our day which is battered beyond recognition, distorted and mutilated and
above all justice at times as applied in our midst is ridiculed by members
of the law enforcement agents.
Thus, all these factors put together prompted and warranted us, as a family,
to cry out louder for justice to prevail and to take to the streets of
Brikama way down to the Commissioner's Office peacefully in our large
numbers on Wednesday, March 22.
This was also in line with the raping of a 13-year old school girl from
Brikamaba Junior Secondary School who represented her school in the
Inter-Schools Sports Competition two weeks ago by an unknown paramilitary
officer.
During the march, we went as a body to extend our condolence to the bereaved
family and on our way back to the College, we had an ordeal with the Brikama
Fire and Ambulance Service men where they (the officers) started the stoning
which later turned to raining down of stones from both ends and in the
process one of the fire ambulances' windscreen was smashed to pieces.
Soon after this encounter we (the students) had a closed door meeting in the
Principal's Office which was filled with a high powered delegation from the
Department of State for Education. Among them was the Permanent Secretary
and some security personnel from almost all its branches. They included
Landing Badjie (13 Badjie) - the Commander of the Serious Crime Unit;
intelligence officers from the President's Office; police detectives and CID
personnel; the Commissioner, Western Division; the Chief of Kombo Central
and the Principal Education Officer for Region 2.
During the meeting, 13 Badjie said "I do not blame you (the students) much
since you should have been informed of the latest development as to how far
we have gone into the issue, and I am not here to tell you sweet words but
the hard fact and not because the situation at hand is tense."
We were advised and assured of justice taking its right course.
Besides, I was given a copy of the post-mortem (autopsy) report that proves
beyond all reasonable doubt that the post-mortem report is not empty as
allegedly reported by Pa Nderry Mbai of the Daily Observer. It evidently
shows signs of torture of the deceased.
Attached is a photocopy of the autopsy report.
"On the instructions of the Coroner of BRIKAMA the undersigned on this day
carried out a Post-Mortem examination within the mortuary of this
institution on the body of EBRIMA BARRY which was identified in my presence
by the following persons:
"1. Saikou Barry - uncle of Brikama Perseverance;
"2. Kebba Barry - Brother of Brikama Perseverance.
"Present at the identification was 1ST CC 448 KALILU BOJANG - BRIKAMA POLICE
STATION.
"My findings are as follows:-
"EXTERNAL EXAMINATION
"The body is that of an average build African male of 25 years. It is well
preserved and well nourished. No trace and evidence of beat in the external
examination were found.
"INTERNAL EXAMINATION
"At the opening the thoracic cavity any abnormalities of the heart vessel
greats and mediastinum were found. All the structures were found in the
normal anatomic position.
"Into the trachea and bronchial lumen were found aereate secretion. In the
inspection and examination of the lungs were found that both were increased
in size and weight and edema were present. The right lung showed a bigger
area of the infarct located in the middle lobe and in the base with severe
harmorrhage necrosis.
"ABDOMINAL CAVITY
"LIVER - Increased in size and weight with fatty liver appearance.
"SPLEEN - Normal
"PANCREAS - Normal
"INTESTINE - Normal
"KIDNEYS - Normal
"REST - Normal.
"CRANIAL CAVITIES
"The scalp is normal, all the skull bones are normal. No fracture are seen.
The suture line of skull were very carefully examined. The brain was normal
only showed mild edema and congestion. No abnormalities that has
relationship with trauma was found.
"CONCLUSIONS
"CAUSE OF DEATH-
"Infarct of the right lung located in the middle lobe and base with severe
harmorrhagic necrosis. Severe edema of both lungs.
"Acute respiratory insufficience
"Hepatic estaetosis
"Note: Any relationshiped lesion with trauma and beat were found in the
autopsy and in the post-mortem examination. It called attention the lung
finding in the post-mortem examination.
"DR RAFAEL RIZO
"HISTOPATHOLOGIST
"RVH."
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13 March 2000.
Secretary of State for Education,
Department of State for Education,
Bedford Place Building,
BANJUL.
DISCIPLINE IN SCHOOLS - On The Death Of Ebrima Barry
Events of far-reaching significance for the educational system in the
country has compelled us to address this letter to you.
It has been reported by Ebrima Barry's mother that before he died he claimed
that three officers of the Fire and Ambulance Services Department arrested
him and forced him to arrange over forty bags of cement. He was then
undressed and water was allegedly poured on him.
According to the mother, the child was flogged, kicked and hit on the head
after his hair was shaved. Cement is said to have been poured on his head
and put in his mouth.
How a school boy who is accused of infringing school rules or proper conduct
could find himself in the hands of officers of a Fire and Ambulance Services
Department raises fundamental questions. It signifies that coercion is
increasingly being resorted to as a means of dealing with problems of school
children.
The cruel and inhumane punishment which Ebrima has been allegedly subjected
to constitutes a gross violation of Section 21 of the Constitution which
states in no uncertain terms that no person shall be subjected to torture or
inhuman or degrading punishment or other treatment.
It goes without saying that section 19 of the Constitution asserts that
"Every person shall have the right to liberty and security of person. No one
shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest or detention. No one shall be deprive
d of his or her liberty except on such grounds and in accordance with such
procedures as are established by law."
It is very clear from the information received that Ebrima was deprived of
liberty unlawfully and arbitrarily. He was not held in detention in
conformity with any law. He was deprived of liberty, but was not treated
with humanity and respect for his inherent dignity as a human person.
To make a school boy to arrange over forty bags of cement, shave his head
and flog him constitute torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment.
What led the Fire officers to partake in such a brutal exercise? Is it
because of the fact that the school system has found it convenient to
involve officers, as alleged, in ensuring discipline in schools?
The reports we have received from both the father of the young man and the
school indicate that the officers were initially asked to intervene to try
to calm tension between the child and a teacher. This issue is, therefore,
not a simple question of brutality from members of a security force. It
reflects a tendency to give more weight to coercion than counselling in
ensuring discipline within the school system.
How discipline is to be enforced in the school system is a matter that
requires urgent attention.
School administrators are increasingly resorting to suspensions, transfers
and coercion, as we have seen in Ebrima's case, to address problems
associated with challenges to authority in the school system.
All these methods reflect a tendency towards disowning the child instead of
accepting responsibility for his or her integration into normal school life.
In our view, a healthy society is one where people are imbued with a sense
of belonging. We all know that young people who are seen as the worst
delinquents do go abroad in search of greener pastures and do not hesitate
to send the bulk of their earnings to eradicate the poverty of their parents
when they do succeed. Many are determined to suffer just so that their
parents would be free from suffering.
This clearly shows that when people are truly imbued with a sense of
belonging, they are, in most cases, willing to sacrifice to ensure that
those whom they are a part of do not suffer unnecessarily.
If we are to build a healthy society, it means that families,
neighbourhoods, schools, children and youth associations and the State must
create environments which children will be proud to belong to. The more we
create a society where families, neighbourhood, schools disown children,
social exclusion will become the order of the day.
When people are deprived of a sense of belonging; when they no longer feel
that others care for them, they also must become care free. When others do
not want to spend time to show them that they are concerned; that they
matter; that they are willing to invest in them so that they become their
best selves; they also become callous, defiant and indifferent. Every
attempt to use force or coercion to ensure conformity leads to greater
inconformity and deviance. The ultimate result is to propagate rebellious
tendencies within families, neighbourhoods and schools.
It is, therefore, absolutely essential to see that the discipline through
canes is the discipline of the donkey. Coercion may break the will of a
donkey and make it to live as the master wills. Coercion enrages a human
being and makes him or her rebellious. He or she may conform just for
sometime, but ultimately the end result is always social disorder.
What is essential is to understand that a family, a neighbourhood, a school
system which promotes a greater sense of belonging tends to have greater
influence in shaping the behaviour of its members. Its members are keen in
accepting sanctions in order not to be excluded from such a precious
company. This is the direction towards which educational institutions should
move. Schools are promoters of a way of life, that is, if those who manage
them are motivated by a sense of purpose and direction.
There is, therefore, need for the educational institutions to be given a
re-orientation so that the problems which have surfaced in Brikama will be
effaced for good. Those who may have thought that they were disciplining
Ebrima were doing so under misconceived notions of how to help a child to
develop. What they may have been trying to do was to break his will to
resist so that he may conform. Where that conformity is resisted, more force
is applied. The end result is always incalculable. It is realised only when
the undesirable happens.
What is essential now is to draw fundamental lessons from the development so
as to avert a reoccurrence. We would like to suggest the convening of a
national conference of headmasters, principals and other senior
administrators as soon as possible to discuss democratic administration of
schools. How to manage institutions without risking such incidents is of
fundamental urgency.
We hope your Department of State will facilitate such discourse which should
go on and on at all levels in the education system and the community, at
large, so that the school system will continue to influence the emergence of
a Gambian man and woman with a great sense of belonging and responsibility
for the community, and serving the greater good in the interest of all.
.....................................
Halifa Sallah
For: The Editorial Board.
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THE PHASING OUT OF FORSTER'S TWO GRADE 10 CLASSES
On Monday, 27 March 2000, a delegation from the Department of State for
Education, led by the Permanent Secretary, Dr Saidou Jallow, held a meeting
at the Regional Education Office in Brikama with the proprietor of Forster's
Skill Centre, Junior and Senior Secondary Schools, Mr William Forster; the
Regional Education Officer, Mr Kakai Sanyang; the Commissioner, Western
Division, Mr Kebba Ceesay; the Chief of Central Kombo, Mr Bakary Santang
Bojang; the Officer Commanding Western Division; Student leaders from GAMSU
and The Gambia College and parents/guardians.
The delegation from the Department of State for Education included Mr
Baboucarr Bouy, Director of Planning and Mr Pap Sey, Director of Basic
Education.
The objective of the meeting was to discuss matters relating to the
immediate phasing out of the two grade 10 classes at Forster's Junior
Secondary School.
In his opening remarks, the Permanent Secretary said that at the beginning
of the academic year, Mr William Forster was cautioned not to enrol any
students to grade 10 in his secondary school because he did not fulfil the
educational requirements and criteria to continue operating a senior
secondary school in accordance with the Education Act of The Gambia.
He further indicated that according to findings from the School Inspectorate
Unit, Mr Forster went ahead and registered two grade 10 classes under the
name of a skill centre known as Brikama Technical Training Centre (BTTC).
According to Dr Jallow, findings also revealed that these classes were using
the same outline and specified government grade 10 syllabus, which he said
is not similar in any way to that of the syllabus of any skilled centre;
that this is a clear manifestation, which also clears all doubts, that what
Mr Forster is claiming is untrue and unfounded.
The Permanent Secretary further cited provisions in the laws of The Gambia
which give the Secretary of State mandate to allow or disallow anybody
wanting to operate a school, be it nursery, primary, junior or senior
secondary school, but upon conditions that the said person in question has
fulfilled all requirements, terms and conditions deemed necessary by the
authorities of the Department.
Dr Jallow went on to say that "it is the same Education Act that mandated
the Secretary of State for Education to announce or effect the closure of
any such school found to be non-fulfilling the specified terms and
conditions laid by the Department.
"Thus, here today, this led or warrant us to conclude that these two grade
10 classes under discussion, said and known to be under Forster's Senior
Secondary School be transferred to Mindaw Junior Secondary School and will
be continued there as normal grade 10 classes under any government senior
secondary school with effect from Monday 3 April 2000".
Dr Jallow urged all parents, guardians and students affected by this change
to abide by what the Department of State for Education is asking them to do
in order to avoid another Ebrima Barry history repeating itself at Forster'
s.
A parent asked the type of uniforms the students will wear. It was made to
him that the students shall continue to wear the uniforms they wore when at
Forster's. It was also indicated by the education authorities that teachers
will be provided to teach the students.
Another parent was also concerned about the mode of payment of school fees.
The Permanent Secretary assured him that it is the same trend that is to
follow suit regarding the manner and mode of payment of school fees.
He made it clear that those students who had paid fees for the first and
second terms will only pay third term and those who paid only one term will
need to pay the rest.
Dr Jallow further clarified that those continuing grades 8 and 9 within
Forster's Junior Secondary School and the grades 11 and 12 in the senior
secondary school are not affected in any way by this current change. Thus,
the aforementioned grades will continue to operate under the name of both
the junior and senior secondary schools without any disruption whatsoever in
the education of those students until at such a time when these grades will
phase out completely.
By Lamin Jobe, Minister of Information, Gambia College.
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10 April, 2000.
Secretary of State for The Interior,
Department of State for The Interior,
BANJUL.
GAMSU AND THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE FOR THE INTERIOR
A Collision Course Or Dialogue?
Sentiments do grip a person when confronted with situations that students
have been confronted with upon learning the death of Ebrima Barry and the ra
ping of the school girl, Binta Manneh.
When a vacuum is left by inaction after such developments, emotional
reactions are usually the price of such inaction.
Suffice it to say, it is the duty of those who manage State affairs to be
the ultimate protectors of the rights and vital interests of the people. It
is their duty to accord speedy justice in order not to be seen to condone
injustice.
The Department of State for the Interior is said to have issued a press
release indicating that action has been taken to arrest and detain those who
are alleged to have tortured Ebrima Barry to death; that the files have been
handed over to the Attorney General's Chambers for action.
The message, however, lamented that GAMSU still intends to hold a
demonstration and warnings were issued that the security forces would not
allow any break down in law and order.
This gives the impression that GAMSU and the Department of State for the
Interior are on a collision course. It is, therefore, necessary for the rest
of us not to twiddle our thumbs while the bush fire is being set alight.
This letter springs from our cognition of a sense of duty in promoting the
defence of rights, as well as the legitimate exercise of duties of both
State functionaries and the sovereign people of The Gambia.
The contradiction between GAMSU and the Department of State for the interior
is not a complex one. The Department of State for the Interior is a
government department. GAMSU is a civil society organisation. The Department
of State for the Interior is established under the Constitution to provide
services to the Gambian people. It has the responsibility to display a high
degree of honesty, fairness and impartiality in its dealings with members of
the public.
As a Department of State, it is required under section 216 of the
Constitution "to secure and promote a society founded on the principles of
freedom, equality, justice, tolerance, probity and accountability."
This is due to the fact that Departments of State are public institutions,
and as organs of the government they are bound by section 1 of the
constitution which asserts that "the Sovereignty of The Gambia resides in
the people of the Gambia from whom all organs of government derive their
authority and in whose name and for whose welfare and prosperity the powers
of government are to be exercised."
This should be very instructive to every Secretary of State. It should
inculcate a sense of understanding that a Department of State is just an
instrument for rendering service to the sovereign people of The Gambia, and
Secretaries of State should always put the interest of the people at the
forefront in making any decisions. When this approach is taken, power will
never be exercised for its sake. It will be exercised for the sake of the
people.
So far the Department of State for the Interior has been collaborating with
the students to ensure that the alleged cases of murder and rape are
thoroughly investigated. What is now in question is the expression by the
students that they will hold a demonstration after the Department of State
feels that it has done all within its possibilities to see to it that the
grievances of the students are addressed.
Apparently, the press release seems to imply that the students are becoming
unreasonable for calling for a demonstration even after certain guarantees
are given. This raises questions regarding the culture of right. Where does
the exercise of rights start and end is a fundamental question of
governance.
Governance is, in deed, the art of predicting probabilities, identifying
priorities and making options that can enlarge the freedoms and welfare of
the people. It constitutes the lawful exercise of responsibility with the
objective of creating possibilities to solve problems. The objective of the
action of every State official is not to enlarge problems, but to minimise
and even ameliorate them. This should be the objective of the Department of
State for the Interior.
If the Department of State for the Interior is to have the desired impact,
it must not weigh the actions of the students against what it deems to be
reasonable. What it should do is to weigh whether the actions are reasonably
justifiable in a democratic society. If this yardstick is established, one
would be able to promote dialogue. One would be able to know where actions
threaten to exceed the bounds to the legitimate exercise of rights and
infringes on the rights of others. Instead of issuing threats, one would be
issuing advice that would serve as food for thought.
Suffice it to say that the students are learning from the school of life. It
is through such developments that they come to understand how citizens
exercise their rights, what constitutes the legitimate exercise of rights
and what constitutes the infringement of the justifiable and democratic
bounds established for the exercise of such rights. A democratic culture is
inconceivable without according citizens the freedom to exercise what they
have rights to do even if the context is considered by others to be
unjustifiable.
In short, rights are not gifts. They are possessions. They belong to those
who take ownership of them. It is not for others to bar the legitimate
exercise of rights, but to convince those who wish to exercise them of the
futility of exercising them to achieve a purpose which has already been
served if one is of such an opinion. It is more judicious to protect the
exercise of rights even if the officials of the State consider it to be
unnecessary, as long as those who willed it to be exercised are resolved to
exercise it. This is how matters stand with GAMSU.
Section 25, subsection (1) (d) of the Constitution asserts that "Every
person shall have the right to:-
"freedom to assembly and demonstrate peaceably and without arms."
Subsection (f) adds that "Every person shall have the right to freedom to
petition the executive for redress of grievances and to resort to the courts
for the protection of his or her rights."
It is, therefore, a constitutional right to address a petition to the
executive as well as to demonstrate peaceably without arms.
The Public Order Act, therefore, has to be read in conjunction with the
supreme law of the land. What is required of the students, if they are to
engage in any procession, under section 5 is to make an application for a
licence defining the conditions on which the procession is to take place.
Needless to say, those who receive such licences to hold a procession are
obliged to do so peaceably and not destroy any private or public property.
In this light, it is the duty of the Department of State for the Interior to
guide the students to have their demonstration legally by abiding by the
provisions of the law and even safeguard them to go to the places they want
to go, submit the petitions they want to submit and disperse peaceably.
It is the duty of the students to teach each other how to conduct themselves
in such a way that the rest of society will give them confidence and respect
by displaying conduct that is reasonable and justifiable in a democratic
society. If students can act in unison with maturity and respect for the
rights of others, one would be fair to conclude that a new culture of rights
has emerged where people do not only become self-centred but are concerned
when the rights of their fellow citizens are violated. If such social
conscience and social action which will inject consciousness of the
implications of violating the rights of others. This can serve as a check
for each citizen to temper his or her action with the hammer of justice
before perpetrating any action against others. Justice becomes instituted
when the vast majority of people refuse to tolerate acts of injustice.
It is not demonstration which constitutes a threat to security. Security can
only be threatened if demonstrators go beyond the bounds of what is
reasonable and justifiable in a democratic society.
When people are not obstructed from exercising their rights, the burden of
exercising it responsibly shifts to them. However, when the State bars the
lawful exercise of rights, the expression of frustration which may threaten
national security becomes its responsibility.
The point of convergence, therefore, which accords with justice is for the
State not to bar the legitimate exercise of rights and instead counsel for
precisely such an expression in a reasonable and democratic way. This is the
way to avoid a coalition course between GAMSU and the Department of State
for the Interior. We hope the Department of State for the Interior will give
regard to the conceptions inherent in this memorandum.
.......................................
Halifa Sallah
For: The Editorial Board.
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Prior to the delivery of the letter, we received information that the
students were being suppressed at the GTTI to bar them from starting their
procession. We went to the scene. The details and the actions we call for
will be dispatched by tomorrow.
Halifa.
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I agree that it should not be restricted to just the Gambian Missions. The
U.N. and other bodies ought to be included. Open to ideas and suggestions.
Latjor
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>Latjor,
>
>Your idea of a petition is good but sending them to Gambian missions will
>not help. These petitions must bwe addressed to the UN High Commissioner
>for
>Human Rights, Mary Robinson, UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan and the
>Commonwealth Secretary General. These are under international pressure to
>deal with wanton abuses of human rights such as witnessed in the Gambia.
>Each and very member of L must be encouraged to send an e-mail to all these
>people. That is the only way to move our collective protest from the L to
>the International scene.
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>>From: latjor ndow <[log in to unmask]>
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>>Subject: Re: Massacre of Students in The Gambia
>>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:44:32 PDT
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>>Greetings:
>>I join the rest in expressing my condolences to the families of the
>>deceased
>>students.
>>I also express my indignation to this attrocities perpetrated by the
>>officers. All reports being received indicate that only students and
>>civilians died, killed by 'law enforcement officers'. While some have
>>cautioned to wait for the full details of this attrocity to come out, one
>>cannot deny that at the very least, the officers over stepped the
>>boundaries
>>of human dignity.
>>If they were provoked by the students, assuming that was the case here
>>(there was reporting of looting by the students), the officers ought to
>>have
>>simply arrested the students using restrained force. I am sure they have
>>other less deadly tools of their trade that would have been more
>>appropriate. But using deadly force??? No! No! No!
>>What do we do? Certainly move in the direction suggested by Dr. Saine,
>>Alpha
>>and others.
>>My suggestion is to also mobilize our respective communities, draft a
>>protest letter to be signed by as many people as possible and submit it to
>>the Gambian Missions abroad, while also following through with the other
>>suggestions being developed here.
>>Latjor
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Gambia-L,
Chidi Odinkalu, the Africa Legal Officer for the London-based Human Rights
Group, Interights, is submitting a petition/protest note to the
Commonwealth, in relation to the massacre of students in the Gambia.
Consequently, he'll be most grateful if you could e-mail him any relevant
information/observation you may have on the matter.
This is his e-mail: [log in to unmask]
By the way, I am still working on a more comprehensive story and I hope I
can post it as soon as possible. But, believe me, it is a very, very
serious/sad tragedy.
A short while ago, a diplomat in the Gambia told me on the phone, that he
had been reliably informed by a hospital insider (a medical doctor for that
matter) that so far 14 people have died as a result of the shootings and
that several students have in fact "sustained life threatening injuries".
So, Gambia-L, let us take the government figures, in relation to the number
of people killed, anytime they are released, with a pinch of salt!!!
In fact, the Government, I understand from the diplomat, intends to reduce
the figure for the number of people killed.
Meanwhile, I understand that students in Bansang, Basse and Essau are still
on the rampage. Banjul itself is said to be calm, but "tense". Albert Market
is reported to be half empty, with most people staying at home. Roads
leading to the Police station in Banjul are sealed off. Janjangburay police
station and the Gamtel there are in flames.
So let us continue praying.
Essa Thomas, I can confirm to you that Mr Jammeh is still in Cuba, but I
understand that he was consulted before the orders were given to shoot the
students. I am reliably informed that at an Emergency Cabinet meeting
yesterday, Vice Prseident Isatou Njie-Saidy declared that she was instructed
by Yahya Jammeh "to open fire". Anyway, as I said earlier, I'll send
something comprehensive as soon as possible.
Ebrima
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>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:26:05 +0100
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>Dear Ebrima,
>
>Here is my e-mail address. Any information you can give on the Gambia
>killings please. We need to be able to do a submission to the Commonwealth
>at least.
>
>Chidi
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:10:35 +0200
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Subject: Uneasy Calm In Banjul After Bloody Student Riots (2)
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Gambia Tuesday, after students riots in which at least 10 people, mainly =
students and pupils, lost their lives Monday.
Residents told PANA Tuesday the government has ordered indefinite =
closure of the schools and deployed soldiers to maintain order in the =
streets.
The incident started late morning Monday in Banjul, Serekunda and other =
neighbouring towns, when secondary school students took to the streets, =
protesting autopsy report on the death of their colleagues in the hands =
of security agents a month ago.
The report talked of natural death whereas it was believed that the =
victim was tortured by men of the fire brigade.
They also accused security operatives of rough-handling of their female =
colleagues.
The students vandalised property including the television station, and =
threw stones at soldiers sent to stop the rampage.
Residents said many students, who were shot by police, were taken to =
hospitals in Banjul.
Local papers reported Tuesday that at least 10 people are known to have =
died in the mayhem.
One of the dead is Oumar Baro, a Gambia journalist of the Dakar-based =
Sud-FM Radio who was working as volunteer with the Red Cross in Banjul =
at the time.
He was reported to be assisting some of the injured pupils during the =
shooting when he received the fatal gun shot.
The interior minister, Usman Badie, summoned a ministerial crisis =
meeting late Monday to discuss the incident which took place in the =
absence of President Yahya Jammeh, who is away in Cuba for the G-77 =
Summit.
The government has arranged a meeting with parents and teachers while =
the schools remain closed.
Banjul was rocked by violence in January following a botched coup =
attempt which led to the death of at least two soldiers.
Jammeh himself is currently living in his home village of Kanila, on the =
southern border with Senegal while the State House in Banjul is =
undergoing renovation.
He had described the January upheaval as a "plan to destabilise my =
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This is a spell-bounding and shocking one. Yet again, these soldiers =
have manifested their ouright callousness and insanity by shedding =
innocent blood. Things really dont look good. NO they dont!
Lord bless the souls of the deceased. I salute you all.
Regards,
Omar.=20
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Emne: Re: Brutality at its best!!!!!
>My deepest condolences to all the students and non-students that were
>killed. This act of cowardise needs to be condemned by all and those
>responsible need to be brought before justice. I was thinking maybe the
>police and soldiers as well as the people who gave them orders to kill =
came
>from the bush or something[Animals]. i just could not believe Gambians =
are
>responsible of taking such deadly actions, because all of us in the =
Gambia
>are related.
>God Bless And Peace Be Upon All
>Alasana Bah
>Seattle, WA
>
>>From: "Mori K. Jammeh" <[log in to unmask]>
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>>Subject: Brutality at its best!!!!!
>>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:15:29 -0500
>>
>>Dear Gambia L,
>>This is yet another clear manifestation to the Gambian people and the =
whole
>>world that there is a difference between Yaya's government and the
>>government which he and his cohorts claim to rescue Gambians from.I am =
sure
>>every one is aware of why the alleged killings happened today at =
home.It
>>all
>>began because a student has been tortured to death and another has =
been
>>raped but authorities are reluctant to investigate and punish those
>>responsible for the crimes.
>>
>>Any effort to suppress the unveiling of truth I'm sure will be =
fruitless
>>and
>>it is better to take action against those responsible for those crimes =
as
>>well as the officers who fired and killed students.I believe law
>>enforcement
>>agencies are all dancing to the tunes of the rogue regime and it is =
time
>>those of them who want to restore credibility in their service to the
>>nation
>>come out and speak out. You cannot continue killing our people who are
>>defenseless in the name of law and order when there is not a single =
iota of
>>discipline in your activities. Why in the first place would they face
>>student with guns with live ammunitions? Brothers and sisters let us =
join
>>hands in every possible way to dislodge this barbaric regime.Each of =
us can
>>make this a reality through the letter writing campaigns as well as
>>encouraging people to vote.May their souls rest in peace.Long live the
>>Gambia.
>>Mori Kebba Jammeh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Mori
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Kabir,
You've spoken for me! I'm at work right now, but I was hoping to give this
Ambassador a fitting reply tonight, but alas, true to their real color, he's
trying to run away from truth. Yes, hatred is an understatement for what I
feel for this govt. A woman goes to McCarthy Square with her kids; tries to
get to the loo, and what happens? She gets savagely attacked by soldiers!
She tries to get redress from the authorities, and what do they tell her?
Basically "go to hell! You don't have any rights." A little girl takes leave
of her parents to watch sports at the national Stadium, and what happens?
Some animal in uniform pulls her aside, and raped her right in that very
complex! What do the authorities do? They shamelessly stood by the rapist! A
boy has a problem with his teacher, and what happens? Some Fire Svc officers
decide to give him a cement sandwich in addition to brutalizing him to
death! All in the last five weeks!
So, do I hate this govt? Yes, I do with a passion that words can't describe!
Who are these people to drag our country into a pit latrine? Who are these
people to constantly torture our sisters and mothers? Who are these people
to murder our little brothers? Who are these people to rape our little
sisters?
So, Mr. Sey, you can call me Mr. Hate if you like because I hate your govt
and everything it stands for. Your type are the worst there is. If you're so
"nice" and "decent" as some have described you, why would you work for a
barbaric regime like Yaya Jammeh's? You are no decent person at all. You're
one of those disgusting professionals who go around putting a "gentle" face
on savagery just because of your pocket and ego. At this stage, any decent
Gambian in a senior govt position will either resign in protest, or at the
very least, hang their heads in shame. But YOU have the audacity to try to
defend murderers! And you think by throwing me a cheap label as a "hater" on
this List, I'll back off? You have no idea who you're dealing with. I hate
hypocrites, and frauds! And I'm not one to mince words; never have been,
never will be! So, if you are in the hypocrisy business, ply your trade
somewhere else. Because as long as I'm on this roll, NOBODY will get away
with your type of behavior here. Guaranteed! You can call me what you want,
or you can think whatever the hell you want of me, but I have more
self-esteem and dignity than you'll ever have. I even feel enhanced by the
fact that a Yaya Jammeh hound dog like yourself thinks negatively of me. I
see that as a big compliment. This forum will never be like Radio Gambia, or
GRTS where paid apologists like yourself lie and distort facts just to
please an ignorant and paranoid dictator! You can stay, or leave because
your brand of patriotism isn't popular here! Since, this is borrowed time,
I'll take a break for now. I'm still feeling sick having slept only three
hours last night thanks to your govt. So, Mr. Ambassador, your opinion of me
isn't worth a rat's ass to me! I prefer the friendship of the down-trodden
of our nation!
Saul.
>What?!?
>
>Didn't you say you were going to deal with all who dared to speak out about
>your murderous regime? Aren't you all a bunch of cowards who shoot at
>defenceless school children but run away when faced with the
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:34:06 -0400
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A lot of people have suggested us e-mailing the UN etc. Does anyone have
the relevant E-mail addresses ? If so could they broadcast it so that we
can all take action.
I join the rest of the L in expressing my sorrow and extending my
condolences to all the grieving families who have lost their loved ones.
How can a government authorise the murder of its own citizens ?
Great cowardice was displayed by all those who had it in them to shoot
unarmed students.
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MY PRAYING TO ALL THE FAMILIES AFFECTED AND TO
THE WHOLE NATION. MAY ALLAH HELP COME TO US AT THE TIME WE NEED IT. LET US ALL
PRAY 2RAKAS TODAY
AND PRAY TO ALLAH FOR PEACE AND LET HIM HAVE MERCY ON THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIFE.
ALLAH`S TIME IS THE BEST.
THANKS
LAMIN
Samba Goddard wrote:
> Assalaamu alaikum G-L
> (There is no power and might except by Allah!)
>
> (Subhanalah) This tragic is very sad to hear, when i heard the news from a
> friend, i could not believed that these thing could happen in the Gambia.
> I called my sister to confirmed whether is true or not,
> my sister told me that they could not go out because the soldiers had open
> fire all over the place, they are in a very serious condition right now.
> Because if the soldiers see you with school uniform then you are in danger.
>
> I can`t understand why the soldiers are acting like this with the future
> generation, if they continue this tragic killings, how do they want the
> others who survived to concentrate in their schooling?
> What do the soldiers expect for the future generation,if they start killing
> the student???
>
> This is just like:(Killed them before they grow)!!!!!
>
> This is very inhuman really, i think that the Gambian`s
> will learned something from the freetown crisis but no insted the soldiers
> are trying to build the same anger to the people, and it could be dangerous
> when people have no fear any more.
>
> Please, please, please don`t distroyed our mother land like Brundi, Liberia,
> sierra leone and other countries.
>
> Let us pray, let us pray to the Gambia, let us all pray.
> Because prayer`s is the only weapon to the believer`s
> let us stop the anger and try to control our minds.
>
> May Allah! The Almighty, The Super Power GUIDE the Gambia from this tragic
> problems and grant us Peace from these HUNGRY SOLDIERS.
>
> May Allah! The Most High! Purifies the hearts of these HUNGRY SOLDIERS.
>
> Those HUNGRY SOLDIERS hearts wherewith they understand not, their eyes
> wherewith they see not, and their ears wherewith they hear not.They are like
> cattle, --- nay more misguided: for they are heedless of worning. (Surah:7.
> Verse179)
> To such as Allah! rejects from His guidance, there can be no guide. Allah!
> will leave them in their trespasses wandering in distraction.(Surah: 7.
> Verse:186)
>
> Allah! The Almighty Says: in the Holy Qur`an:
> There will be a day mankind will issue forth in scattered groups to be shown
> their deeds.
>
> And whoso doth good an atom`s weight will see it then,
> And whoso doth ill an atom`s weight will see it then.
> (Srah 99 Verse 6-7-8).
>
> Allah`s promised NEVER Fails!!!!!
>
> Therefore let us try our level best to cool down our temper.
> Let us be consious about Allah`s promised, cause it will help us to cool
> down.
>
> Let us fight with our mind`s, but not our hearts, it could be more dangerous
> if we don`t use our minds,
> then the anger will be spread like no bodies business.
>
> We cannot fight with the soldiers by insulting the goverment neither the
> presendent,
> it will make it more worst.
>
> There will come a day that every body will witness
> the TRUTH (Insha Allah) Allah! is not sleeping and He will never sleep:
>
> Every body will be judged according to his or her deeds, whether is here in
> this life,or the lifeafter,
> is a matter of Most.
> And everything has an end except Allah!
> Let us put our trust in Allah and there is no power and might except by
> Allah!(SWT).For Allah! is exalted in power, wise.
>
> My condolence goes to all those who lost their beloved one`s.
>
> May Allah! Shower them with His Mercy and may their Souls Rest in Perfect
> Peace.....Ameen!!!!!
>
> Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
>
> Samba Goddard
> (Pulo)
>
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<html><head><meta Name='keywords' Content='commtouch, pronto, mail, free email, free, branded, web based, free web based email, communications, internet, software, advertising banners, e-mail, free software'></head><body ><div align='left'><font ><blockquote><blockquote><TT>Fellow Gambians, I wish to extend my sympathy to the families that <BR>
lost their sons and daughters to this rabid Leviathan called Yahya <BR>
Jammeh and his band of rabid ministers, bureaucrats, and military <BR>
thugs. This is a time for action by all of us (both inside and <BR>
outside). Those in the inside should stay away from work and all of <BR>
us who are in the Diaspora should support them financially. This <BR>
government should be stopped dead at its tracks or else we will <BR>
continue to have massacres such as these. Those of us who are in the <BR>
US should write and call our Congressmen and Sanators to halt any <BR>
relations with this monster. We should organize protest marches in <BR>
cities in the US, Europe, Africa, and all countries we reside. We <BR>
should also contact the Congressional Black Caucus members who were <BR>
trying to form alliances with this killing machine, The Bill Gates <BR>
Foundation, and all entities interested in The Gambia, to stop all <BR>
contacts until we get rid of this rabid dog. Folks in Europe and <BR>
elsewhere should do the similar things. <BR>
<BR>
We should also support the oppositions to protest and organize civil <BR>
unrest for as long as possible. We cannot be complacent anymore. <BR>
The triggermen are not the only killers but an extension of this meat <BR>
apparatus. These kids were killed by Yahya Jammeh, his ministers, <BR>
the bureaucrats, the justice system, the military thugs, and all that <BR>
assist him in this Nazi style operation. We have to make a choice. <BR>
We either die in twos and tens with the rest waiting for their turn <BR>
and shiftless, or we all perish fighting for what we believe. <BR>
<BR>
I am numb and sick to my stomach at how we have evolved. These kids <BR>
have waited for the adults to do the right thing, but we never step <BR>
up to the plate. They have to take it upon themselves to risk their <BR>
lives just to show us what it means to have a conviction. How many <BR>
times have this government short changed the adults? Many times. We <BR>
never have the guts to challenge the monster. Where were the adults <BR>
when the kids were gunned down??? We adults should learn a chapter <BR>
from these young martyrs.<BR>
<BR>
Ladies and gentlemen, we are at crossroads in the history of our <BR>
nation. The choice is ours. We either stand or watch this man feed <BR>
his killing machine or we get rid of him. <BR>
<BR>
Lets organize NOW before it's too late.<BR>
<BR>
Joe Sambou<BR>
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jaajef wa G-L,
This is from the Senegalese newspaper Sud, on events in Banjul. I am doing =
a rough transalation and posting the original article in French. May Allah =
have mercy on all the victims.
yeenduleen ak jaama
Tony
AFTER BOKASSA AND MOUSSA TRAORE
Yaya Jammeh=27s open=27s fire on school children - 10 victims of which one =
was a Red Cross volunteer & Sud FM reporter.
Journalists report that violent demonstrations by school students in =
Banjul on Monday left 10 dead and threatened to destabilise Jammeh=27s =
regime. These serious events come as the Gambian Head of State (who =
earlier this year denounced an attempted coup and initiative to destabilise=
his regime) was in Cuba attending the G-77 summit. Th figure of 10 dead =
comes from local journalists who were able to get into the mortuary at the =
Banjul hospital, despite a ban on people being admitted. The casualty =
level amongst both students and police was sufficient for a general appeal =
for blood donors to go out.
Several hundred school students, joined by other youth elements held a =
violent demonstration in the capital Banjul and in Serrekunda. Looting =
took place as cars and government vehicles were destroyed, confirmed AFP =
(agence France presse). According to eye witnesses, the forces of order =
initially responded to stone throwing by students with tear gas grenades. =
Confronted with with violent attacks the police then responded with live =
ammunition, killing 10 of the demonstrators. Students responded by =
attacking the Gambia Television, the Electoral Commission headquaters and =
the Electricity Company. In Serrekunda a post office was looted as were =
market stalls and supermarkets. Apolice station and fire service vehicles =
were set on fire. By evening things resembled normailty in Banjul, whilst =
facve to face confrontations continued in Serrekunda.
The Gambian Head of State has, according to observers, no longer felt =
secure in Banjul, and has lived for several months in his home village of =
Kanilai, close to the Senegalese fronteir. The presidential palace has =
been going through renovation....... (cutting it a bit short here)
The SUD-FM correspondant assasinated.
Amongst the 10 victims of the bloody supression of a student demonstration =
by the regime of the Gambian president Yaya Jammeh, was Oumar Barrow, =
journalist and SUD FM correspondant.
Barrow worked for SUD FM in Banjul since 1997, his body was found, riddled =
with bullets and in a pool of blood, in the Bajul mortuary. Barrow was a =
chronciler of local languages (mandinka and soninke) and presenter the =
English news on the radio.
For the listeners of Sud FM Dakar, who listened to their radio station on =
Sunday 9 April, they will have heard Oumar Barrow=27s voice for the last =
time, reporting on the Gambia v Morrocco football match.
By taking his life with such brutality from the affection of his friends, =
family, wife and young child, the military regime in Banjul has made Oumar =
Barrow into one of the heros of a movement which will surley adopt him.
The Gambian journalists trade union meets today (11.4.00) to discuss these =
events and to take appropriate measures.
The group SUD COMMUNICATION joins its Gambian brothers in their struggle, =
and expresses its deepest condolences to the victims family.
O.Kouressy
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
APRES BOKASSA ET MOUSSA TRAORE
Le r=E9gime de Yaya Jammeh tire sur ses enfants - 10 victimes dont un =
volontaire de la Croix Rouge, reporter =E0 Sud Fm
Les violentes manifestations d=27=E9l=E8ves qui ont fait lundi =
une dizaine de morts =E0 Banjul et dans sa banlieue, selon des journalistes=
sur place, menacent de d=E9stabiliser davantage le r=E9gime du pr=E9siden=
t Yahya Jammeh.
Ces graves incidents se sont produits alors que le chef de =
l=27Etat gambien, qui avait d=E9nonc=E9 au d=E9but de l=27ann=E9e une =
tentative de coup d=27Etat et un =22plan de d=E9stabilisation de son =
r=E9gime=22, se trouve =E0 Cuba pour participer au sommet des pays du =
G-77.
Le chiffre d=27une dizaine de morts a =E9t=E9 fourni par des journalistes =
qui ont r=E9ussi =E0 se rendre =E0 la morgue de l=27h=F4pital de Banjul.
L=27h=F4pital de Banjul, dont les acc=E8s ont ensuite =E9t=E9 interdits, =
a implicitement confirm=E9 l=27existence de nombreux bless=E9s dans les =
rangs des =E9l=E8ves et des forces de l=27ordre en diffusant un appel aux =
donneurs de sang.
Plusieurs centaines d=27=E9l=E8ves du secondaire, rejoints par d=27autres =
jeunes casseurs, ont manifest=E9 violemment dans la journ=E9e =E0 Banjul =
et =E0 Serekunda (40 km de la capitale), se livrant =E0 des pillages et =
saccageant des v=E9hicules et des =E9difices gouvernementaux, a constat=E9 =
l=27Afp.
Selon des t=E9moins, les forces de l=27ordre auraient dans un premier =
temps ripost=E9 avec des grenades lacrymog=E8nes aux attaques des =
=E9l=E8ves qui les affrontaient =E0 coups de pierres et de gourdins.
Mais, devant la violence des attaques, celles-ci auraient r=E9pliqu=E9 =
avec des tirs par balles, tuant une dizaine de personnes parmi les =
manifestants.
Ceux-ci ont saccag=E9 les locaux de la t=E9l=E9vision gambienne, de la =
commission =E9lectorale et de la soci=E9t=E9 d=27=E9lectricit=E9 de =
Banjul.
A Serekunda, dans la grande banlieue de Banjul, ils ont pill=E9 un bureau =
de poste, des cantines, des supermarch=E9s et ont incendi=E9 des v=E9hicule=
s de sapeurs pompiers, ainsi qu=27un poste de police.
La situation semblait redevenue presque normale =E0 Banjul en fin =
d=27apr=E8s-midi mais =E0 Serekunda, les jeunes demeuraient face =E0 face =
avec les forces de l=27ordre.
Le chef de l=27Etat gambien qui, selon les observateurs, ne se sentirait =
plus en s=E9curit=E9 =E0 Banjul, vit depuis plusieurs mois dans son =
village natal de Kanilai, pr=E8s de la fronti=E8re s=E9n=E9galaise, son =
palais dans la capitale =E9tant en cours de r=E9novation.
Ces derniers temps, il y =E9tait cependant revenu, partageant son temps =
entre la capitale et son village, o=F9 il se trouve sous haute protection =
militaire.
Au mois de janvier, il avait d=E9jou=E9 une tentative de coup d=27Etat, =
au cours de laquelle deux membres de sa garde pr=E9sidentielle, accus=E9s =
de comploter, ont =E9t=E9 tu=E9s.
Il avait alors d=E9voil=E9 un =22plan=22 de d=E9stabilisation de son =
r=E9gime qui pr=E9voyait, selon lui, des attaques contre des endroits =
strat=E9giques de la capitale, notamment la radio nationale et l=27a=E9ropo=
rt.
LE CORRESPONDANT DE SUD-FM ASSASSINE
Parmi la dizaine de victimes de la r=E9pression sanglante d=27une =
manifestation d=27=E9l=E8ves par le
r=E9gime du pr=E9sident gambien Yahya Jammeh, figure Oumar Baro. =
Journaliste et correspondant
permanent de Sud-.
Au service de Sud-Fm Banjul depuis 1997, Oumar Baro dont le corps, =
cribl=E9 de balles et
gisant dans une mare de sang a =E9t=E9 retrouv=E9 =E0 la morgue de =
l=27h=F4pital de Banjul, =E9tait
chroniqueur en langues locales (mandingue et sonink=E9 notamment) et =
pr=E9sentateur du journal
parl=E9 =E0 la radio en anglais.
Pour les auditeurs de Sud-Fm Dakar qui sont rest=E9s fid=E8les =E0 leur =
station le dimanche 9 avril
dernier, ils auront entendu pour la derni=E8re fois, la voix de Oumar =
Baro dans un reportage du
match de football qui a oppos=E9 la Gambie au Maroc.
En l=27arrachant avec brutalit=E9 et ignominie =E0 l=27affection des =
siens et surtout de son =E9pouse et de
son petit enfant, le r=E9gime militaire de Banjul a fait de Oumar Baro un =
des h=E9ros d=27un
mouvement qui ne manquera pas, =E0 coup s=FBr, de l=27emporter.
En attendant, le syndicat des journalistes gambiens se r=E9unit aujourd=27=
hui, mardi 11 avril 2000,
pour discuter de cette question et =E9ventuellement prendre des mesures =
appropri=E9es qui
s=27imposent.
Le groupe Sud communication se joint au combat des confr=E8res gambiens =
et adresse, =E0 cette
occasion, ses condol=E9ances les plus attrist=E9es =E0 la famille de la =
victime.
O. KOURESSY
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:49:19 CDT
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To all who subscribe to Gambia-L,
It is my husband who subscribes to this list, and I have the opportunity to
read what has been going on through this terrible horror. I have read all of
your responses and outrage, and agree with the barbaric reactions of all
that were in involved.
I also want to extend all of warmest and heartfelt sympathy to those
families that have lost their children. There is not an individual that i
wish ever go through the pain of losing their child.
But what I really wish to point out is a little hard to swallow and some may
feel that I am pointing fingers the wrong way. But has anyone stopped to
think about how these children have decided to defend themselves??? What I
mean is:
Yes... they SHOULD have demonstrated.
Yes... they have the right to speak out.
BUT... WHY DID THEY USE VIOLENCE IN THIS DEMONSTRATION...
BETTER YET... WHAT WOULD THIS DEMONSTATION IN VIOLENCE BRING TO THEM???
Let us think about this for a minute. These children were outraged at what
has been happening in the schools. As they should be. The govt has not
protected them or their rights and they have seen their fellow student(s)
killed and raped. It is truly barbaric acts that allow this violence and
outrage to happen upon innocent children.
BUT... these innocent children, (WHO ARE LITERALLY DEFENSESLESS!!!) have
chosen to demonstrate to show their unapproval of what has been happening.
I can agree with this desire and their need to do such a thing. But what I
have trouble with is the way that they had decided to do this.
1. They have seen their fellow students suffer at the hands of the millitary
thugs and the barbaric way the govt has been running. As brave as they were
to stand up to that... don't they realize that standing up to these
barbarians must bring blood shed!!!???? There really is not way around that.
AND
2. They did NOT protest PEACEFULLY (as we would all love to see The Gambia
someday) and they did NOT protest with a POINT, A MISSION per say. It is one
thing to choose your cause and want to fight for it. BUT it is an entirely
different thing to set out in violence without a mission or a goal... a much
better way would be to go on strike, and demand their rights. A demand is
much better met under peacefull circumstances that it is by going out and
setting fire to things and throwing stones.
Doesn't anyone wonder why they chose violence against barbarians WITH
GUNS!?!?! Surely there must be blood shed with this kind of attack. And this
is what I find the most sad point of the entire situation!!!
The way that most conflicts have EVER been handled with in The Gambia has
been through violence and bloodshed. When in protest it is much better to
gain your allies and go in with demands and expect results from your demands
than to go in with rage and violence and expect some sort of victory.
This whole situation has brought great saddness into my heart. Though I
myself am not a Gambian, I spent two and half years in your beloved country.
I met and married my proud Gambian husband there... and I am proud to say
that I am a part of a strong, proud, and wonderful Gambian family. We have
only been in the States for a few months now, and we miss our people there
greatly....
This sort of news makes us feel a great deal of remorse. My greatest hope is
that teaching, or better yet, INSTILLING peace in Gambian children will just
become second nature. I hope that peace can be in the future of that fine
country.
Again, I wish to extend my condolences... it truly is a horrbile thing that
all will have to now face the consequences of.
Amy
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>You have completely taken me out of context: My statement was:
>Quote
>Kibily, I don't think that anyone can blame the teacher for the tragic
>series
>of events that happened AFTER Ebrima was handed over to the law
>Unquote
>
>The teacher, in my opinion, would not be convicted of the more serious
>charge
>of 'murder one' in any fair court of law. Yes, he might have stepped out
>of
>the realms of his authority by calling in the fire brigade and by putting a
>precious life in a compromising situation. But before we jump to
>conclusions
>and emphatically state that he had a hidden agenda in doing this, it is
>necessary to ascertain directly from the horse's mouth why the deceased was
>handed over to the police? If he was justified, then he should be duly
>absolved of all blame. Otherwise, he should be disciplined accordingly by
>the school board or charged with indirect complicity in Ebrima's death.
>
>This said, it is important to prevent such tragedies from happening in the
>future. To do this, we have to zero in on the law enforcement authorities
>that abuse the human rights of the very people they are supposed to
>protect.
>It is quite unfortunate in the year 2000, we still refer to law enforcement
>as "the wrong hands."
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:00:36 -0500
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Subject: Re: Essa Sey "M. l'ambassadeur, vont la baise vous-même"
Excuse my french but am sure you understand what that mean. Apparently
you don't fit to be an ambassador just as Yahya does not fit to be
president. Saul, Kabir,Ous, Yus and Soffie spoke for me already. I'll just
leave you with these words:
" La vie est une eternelle remis en questions. Il faut faire l'attention
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:06:59 EDT
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If we can come up with a single message; a written message condemning and
protesting this act of brutality and a list of the organizations we want to
send the protest to, I can create an automated e-mail form that will require
users to only sign their names and e-mail addresses and have the protest
sent to all these organizations at one time. Let me know what you guys
think.
Yankuba Njie
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:07:55 EDT
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I thought I would bounce around an action plan for list members to consider
in light of the tragedy we are all trying to deal with. Since we all agree
something meaningful has to be done relatively quickly, I suggest we
immediately name a G-L crisis coordinator to be our point man in doing the
following:
1- Be a repository for an emergency fund drive aimed at collecting money .
We can all send contributions immediately to this coordinator.
2-The said coordinator would then be authorized by us list members to hire
lawyers in Gambia pronto to first establish the names and identities of all
the victims. Our coordinator and the lawyers can then formerly approach the
victims families to offer them representation. This would enable our team of
lawyers to meticulously investigate the entire events surrounding the
massacre by interviewing survivors and talking to witnesses. While the
government is busy rationalizing the killings and crafting a cover-up, we too
can have our people reconstructing the crime. Once the investigative phase is
over our lawyers can submit their findings to us and the world. If we don't
initiate our own enquiry, these brave students who paid the ultimate price
would not have the honor, dignity and justice we owe them. None of us have
any faith in Yahya Jammehs judiciary nor should we even consider awaiting
their socalled enquiry.
If list members agree and we proceed today, by the seven day (sarah) I
anticipate we would have put together some money to even help in the Sarah .
Our coordinator would be asked to donate to each of the families by the
weekend. We can have our lawyers announce by Monday that they have been
retained by us to handle this matter. They would immediately begin work by
seeking the release of students still held . I understand the government is
trying to arrange a meeting with parents in a cynical attempt to pacify the
very obvious anger they know has engulfed the people. With our lawyers
announcing what amounts to probono representation, the parents can even
condition any meeting with the government to the presence of counsel to
shield them from the kinds of wicked manipulation this desperate gov't would
try.
Please list members let us begin rightaway. I would like to suggest Saffie
Ceesay of Silver Spring , Maryland for the USA and Alpha Robinson for
Europe. If the suggestion is approved I would send mine this evening.
Thanks
Karamba
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:58:09 BST
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>Saul,
>
>Thanks a bunch for speaking my mind. I'm glad I went through all the
>replies
>on the subject first. I couldn't have said it as eloquently as you did.
>
>Regards.
>
>Kabir
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>saul khan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>Mr. Ambassador,
>>
>>To add to what Yus has said, your attempt to exonerate your govt without
>>being seen as the govt spokesman reeks of sickening hypocrisy. You see Mr.
>>Sey, things like this savagery are becoming common place in our nation,
>>thanks to Yaya Jammeh. The problem is not the ignoramuses in uniform, it's
>>the ENVIRONMENT that enables them to commit such atrocities with impunity.
>>Now, who created that environment? Simply Mr. Essa Bokarr, you have an
>>incredible bad taste to even attempt such shameless cover-up of the SOURCE
>>of this butchery!
>>
>>
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>Bro Amadou Kabir,
What a honest repond to that Essa Sey!No chance to be given to those
reactionary elements in this forum.They cannot in any way transform our
country into any reality.Let them just keep on deviating from the truth
simply to keep their material positions with the regime that shows no
respect for human soul.Surely TRUTH is coming soon!
And let Tombong Saidy predicts our beloved country's political climate from
today to and after the election as he has shamelessly done to Senegal's
historic election.
And Dr Saine you have said it all NO JUSTICE NO PEACE!
GOOD DAY!
A Touray
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:19:51 PDT
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Gambia L,
More killings of students - by the Gambian security forces - have also taken
place in the provinces today, while students there were demonstrating,
according reports reaching me right now from the Gambia.
I am working on a comprehensive story as promised, but I thought I should
inform you of these latest killings of students that are being reported in
the rural areas as well.
So far two people have been reportedly killed in Bansang; two in Brikamaba;
one in Farafenni; and one seriously injured in Georgetown. Some places in
Barra are also reported to have been badly destroyed by the students.
Ebrima
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:07:47 -0500
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Hello, everyone. Like many of you, I am writing to the list to express my
sadness, outrageous, and my sincerest condolences to the families of the
slain students. I am really not quite sure what else to say. I've thought
about this from the time I started seeing the messages on the list, until I
finally went to sleep last night, and this whole situation was the first
thing I thought about when I woke up this morning. I guess the only thing I
can ask is what can those of us who are non-Gambians do? Usually, I don't
comment on political issues affecting The Gambia, as I am not a Gambia, have
only been there twice, and thus, I don't feel that I am thus qualified to
make any assertions about Gambian politics. However, this whole situation
is extremely unfortunate, and it deeply saddens me. I feel like I should
help in whatever way I can, but I am at a loss as to what I should do.
Anyway, I am hoping that something can be put together to insure that
justice is done, and also, something should be done to affect a change in
the government come the next elections.
Oh, yes, here is another thought that I had. I was thinking this
morning that we, since we have the Internet and access to information, are
in a position to know what is going on. However, what of, say, the rural
Gambian, how can they be made aware of what their current government is
doing, and thus be hopefully persuaded to vote the current regime out of
office?
Just some thoughts...
Ginny
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:15:42 +0200
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Subject: The Daily Observer Published 04/11/00 -10 DEAD IN STUDENTS DEMO
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The following is today's Observer news on Quantum Nets website (www.qanet.gm).
I look forward to FOROYAA's version of the events.
Momodou Camara
The Daily Observer Published 04/11/00
10 DEAD IN STUDENTS DEMO
At least ten people are reported to have died following clashes between
demonstrating students and armed police and soldiers yesterday.
Students from schools in Serrekunda, Banjul, Brikama and Bakau, went out on the
streets to protest against what they said was the 'slow pace' of justice in the
prosecution of the Brikama fire officers who were alleged to have caused the
death of student Ebrima Barry, and an unidentified uniformed officer alleged to
have raped the 13-year-old Brikama-ba school girl.
Among the dead in yesterday's clashes was Red cross volunteer, Omar Barrow, who
is also the editor of Sud FM Radio, Banjul.Last week, students under the aegis
of Gambia Students Union (Gamsu) sent messages to schools in the Greater Banjul
Area informing of the strike. Messages on posters were also pinned up in
schools and along streets in Serrekunda.
Alerted about the strike, the department of state for the Interior Sunday
issued a press release warning students against staging a strike and stressed
that no attempt to disrupt the peace will be allowed.
Sources at Interior said the executive members of Gamsu were invited to a
meeting where they were briefed on government's efforts to speedily prosecute
the alleged errant officers.
However, at about 8am Monday, students carrying white banners with slogans,
"Justice for Ebrima Barry", "We rather die than injustice", "Respect the future
leaders", "Redeploy Brikama fire officers" and chanting, "We are hot, very,
very hot!", "We want freedom and justice!", began gathering at GTTI where they
were to begin the supposedly "peaceful" demonstration.
A contingent of paramilitary officers arrived at the scene and cautioned the
students to call off the strike. They refused to comply. A short while later,
armed forces chief of staff, Babucarr Jatta, and army commander, Lt Col Momodou
Badjie, arrived and urged the students to remain calm.
The students began throwing stones when the paramilitary officers barred their
way. The officers reacted by firing shots into the air. There was pandemonium
as some of the students ran amok while others did mock battle with the armed
officers.
The paramilitary officers regrouped at the mobile traffic unit as the students
in disparate groups advanced towards the Westfield junction, setting up road
blocks and setting vehicle tyres on fire.
At the Westfield junction, Col Jatta and Interior secretary, Ousman Badjie,
tried to calm the students without success.
The students vandalised the Westfield Gamtel office, burning the building and
smashing to smithreens the computers and furniture.
They continued on the stoning spree along Kairaba Avenue breaking shop glasses
and setting ablaze vehicles. The students were joined by street boys and shops
and stalls were looted.
The Gamtel Serrekunda Exchange, Gambia Television offices and the adjoining
Serrekunda Post Office were attacked. The post office was vandalised without
restraint as windows were smashed, post boxes opened and parcels looted. Gamtel
coin phone booths were not spared as well as the Daily Observer offices.
At about 9.18am the Churchill's Town Fire and Ambulance Services compound was
attacked and two fire machines, one bearing the number plate, G3A 4214 were
burnt.
The Bundung police station was burnt as well as part of the Serrekunda police station where inmates were freed.Kotu police and fire station were attacked. Sources in Brikama said the fire engines were attacked and the pol
ice station gutted to the ground. Armed personnel were said to have been redeployed in the town.
The mobile traffic headquarters was also attacked, windscreens of vehicles smashed, including one police siren car and three motorbikes.The students jeered at the deputy inspector general of police and Baba Jobe when they
tried to calm them. The students seized DIG Badjie's cap but returned it to him later.
The president of Gamsu, Omar Joof, and some of his executive members had to flee on board a pick-up vehicle in a hail of stones after he tried to address the students.
Some of the students seized police shields, helmets and uniforms, wearing them.Our reporter, Ben Gomez, said he saw a student pick up a gun dropped by a fleeing paramilitary officer and wanted to open fire but there was n
o cartridge.
The paramilitary officers were said to have been barricaded in a building where they ran for safety for about 20 minutes as thick smoke from burning tyres oozed on them.The officers then opened fire and according to our r
eporter, three students wearing black and white uniforms fell down and were motionless.
At the Serrekunda Post Office, Col Jatta, who was making frantic efforts to douse the flames of violence was accosted by the students who escorted him on foot along Kairaba Avenue to the paramilitary base in Kanifing wher
e he was rescued. The students were forced to retreat under rounds of gunfire lasting 20 minutes.
By last evening, Red Cross officials said at least 10 people have died and many injured including a three year-old-boy. Most of the injured were admitted at the RVH intensive care unit.
Armed soldiers were patrolling the streets yesterday.The violence, damage to property and loss of life have been roundly condemned by many people who appealed to the security forces to ensure that Monday's encore is not r
epeated.
Omar Barrow Killed
Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and the editor at Sud FM radio station, Banjul, was shot to death during the student demonstration yesterday.
In a press release issued last evening, Gambia Red Cross Society (GRCS), explained: "Mr Omar Barrow died at the Royal Victoria Hospital in Banjul after all efforts to save his life. Omar Barrow was shot within the premis
es of GRCS whilst rendering humanitarian services during the student
demonstration of Monday, April 10, 2000. At the time of the gunshot, Mr Omar
Barrow was wearing a clearly marked protective Red Cross emblem, that is, a Red
Cross bib and helmet, which is in line with the international code of conduct
in relief operations and in conformity with the Geneva Conventions.
Mr Omar Barrow is a member of the GRCS emergency response team and the resource
development committee. Mr Barrow, a very active and dedicated Red Cross
volunteer, died in the line of duty.
The entire membership of the Gambia Red Cross Society will observe a week of
mourning for the late Omar Barrow, effective April 10, 2000, all in ceremonial
uniforms or Red Cross T-shirts."
The Red Cross said it extends condolences to the family and friends of Omar
Barrow.The late Omar Barrow is survived by a wife and a seven-month-old baby
girl.
Region 1, 2 schools closed
Following yesterday's bloody clashes involving students and armed police and
soldiers, Office of the President has ordered the immediate closure of all
schools and tertiary institutions in Banjul, Kanifing municipal area and
Western Division.
A press release to the effect, issued yesterday afternoon read:"This morning
some students in regions 1 and 2, under the leadership and guidance of the
Gambia Student's Union, went into rampage causing obstructions to traffic and
disrupting school mock exams that were in progress.
It is further known that certain students forced their way into some schools
and dragged their colleagues to join them in this unwarranted and unruly
behaviour.
Number of casualties and the level of damage to property are currently under
investigation.Government has therefore decided that all schools and tertiary
institutions in regions 1 and 2 be closed with immediate effect, until further
notice.
All parents are hereby advised to keep their children at home and to await
further instructions from the department of state for Education.The security
services will be on full alert and patrol to ensure the safety of lives and
property.
The general public and all visitors to The Gambia are assured that the
government will not compromise the security and stability of the country under
any circumstances. The situation is completely under control and all are
advised to go about their normal business as usual.
Everyone is urged to fully cooperate with the security services and to report
any criminal act and banditry to the nearest police station."Contact numbers
are: 224914, 992237, 994326, 993833.
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Gambia-L,
I wish to express my sincere condolences to the families of all those who
lost their lives yesterday at the student demonstrations in The Gambia. It
is outrageous to learn that our future, the youths of our nation, are
callously killed in this manner.
I also wish to join all the other people on this list and elsewhere, in
condemning in the strongest term possible, the senseless killing of
defenseless children and civilians which took place. There can be no
justification for such brutality and, the individuals who ordered it should
be made accountable for their actions in our courts. Brut force is not
going to solve the innumerable problems we have in our country. The
demonstration planned by the students must have been known to the
authorities who ordered this carnage. If appropriate actions were taken to
properly control and direct the demonstration, this horrible tragedy could
have been avoided. The powers to be failed in their duties and the outcome
is a tragic lost to our nation. We must all strive for truth,democracy and
accountablility in our country. If we achieve this, then the death of these
defenseless children and civilians will not be in vain. This was what they
were fighting for.
May Allah, The Almighty grant the deceased eternal rest.
Bakary J Sonko
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Yes, Mr Touray I agree with your suggestion. I think it is a great idea.
Please keep us posted about the response of others and where to go from
here.
Bakary Sonko
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Subject: Massacre Action Plan
I thought I would bounce around an action plan for list members to consider
in light of the tragedy we are all trying to deal with. Since we all agree
something meaningful has to be done relatively quickly, I suggest we
immediately name a G-L crisis coordinator to be our point man in doing the
following:
1- Be a repository for an emergency fund drive aimed at collecting money .
We can all send contributions immediately to this coordinator.
2-The said coordinator would then be authorized by us list members to hire
lawyers in Gambia pronto to first establish the names and identities of all
the victims. Our coordinator and the lawyers can then formerly approach the
victims families to offer them representation. This would enable our team of
lawyers to meticulously investigate the entire events surrounding the
massacre by interviewing survivors and talking to witnesses. While the
government is busy rationalizing the killings and crafting a cover-up, we
too
can have our people reconstructing the crime. Once the investigative phase
is
over our lawyers can submit their findings to us and the world. If we don't
initiate our own enquiry, these brave students who paid the ultimate price
would not have the honor, dignity and justice we owe them. None of us have
any faith in Yahya Jammehs judiciary nor should we even consider awaiting
their socalled enquiry.
If list members agree and we proceed today, by the seven day (sarah) I
anticipate we would have put together some money to even help in the Sarah .
Our coordinator would be asked to donate to each of the families by the
weekend. We can have our lawyers announce by Monday that they have been
retained by us to handle this matter. They would immediately begin work by
seeking the release of students still held . I understand the government is
trying to arrange a meeting with parents in a cynical attempt to pacify the
very obvious anger they know has engulfed the people. With our lawyers
announcing what amounts to probono representation, the parents can even
condition any meeting with the government to the presence of counsel to
shield them from the kinds of wicked manipulation this desperate gov't would
try.
Please list members let us begin rightaway. I would like to suggest Saffie
Ceesay of Silver Spring , Maryland for the USA and Alpha Robinson for
Europe. If the suggestion is approved I would send mine this evening.
Thanks
Karamba
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Subject: A Gambian Diplomat
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"An Ambassador is and honest man sent to lie abroad for the good of his =
country"=20
Sir Henry Watton=20
Mr Essa B. Sey will go down in my book as the most undiplomatic diplomat =
in the history of the civilised world. In the political history of =
Africa, such barbarous and dastard incidents could only be compared with =
events in Bukasa's Central Africa Republic and Apartheid South Africa. =
For you to say that "there is no one amongst us serving under Jammeh and =
Jammeh himself who would be so irresponsible to order the massacre of =
students." is a thin veil to mask the incompetence of all "serving under =
Jammeh and Jammeh himself." You may be an Ambassador, but surely you are =
not representing the Gambia but Yaya Jammeh. You said the Gambia-List =
was "Over-reacting" to the incident but yet you called this barbarity =
"a national tragedy". How, in Heaven's name, could we refrain from =
"over-reacting", when such a monstrous bestiality is perpetrated on =
innocent and defenceless students? Your attempt to exonerate those =
"serving under Jammeh and Jammeh himself" is as empty as the heads of =
those who pulled the trigger on these unarmed children.=20
One thing you failed to explain is how can responsible Gambian soldiers =
face young Gambian students and aim at them and shoot them in =
cold-blood. The ruthlessness with which these soldiers acted, is a clear =
sign that "those serving under Jammeh and Jammeh himself " are incapable =
of ruling a decent society.
Mr Sey, you are accusing people of "Hating", but what transpired in the =
Gambia on 10th April 2000 is going down in our history as the darkest =
day of our lives. I call you the most undiplomatic diploma because you =
reacted without getting the true facts from home, thus making you the =
only defender of some trigger-happy, armed nitwits. By this action your =
promotion in Jammeh's dictatorship is guaranteed.
BROTHER, JAMMEH MUST GO!!!
Prince Coker
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mr Essa B. Sey will go down in my book =
as the most=20
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political=20
history of Africa, such barbarous and dastard incidents could only be =
compared=20
with events in Bukasa's Central Africa Republic and Apartheid South =
Africa. For=20
you to say that "there is no one amongst us serving under Jammeh and =
Jammeh=20
himself who would be so irresponsible to order the massacre of =
students." is a=20
thin veil to mask the incompetence of all "serving under Jammeh and =
Jammeh=20
himself." You may be an Ambassador, but surely you are not =
representing the=20
Gambia but Yaya Jammeh. You said the Gambia-List was "Over-reacting" to =
the=20
incident but yet you called this barbarity "a national tragedy". How, in =
Heaven's name, could we refrain from "over-reacting", when such a =
monstrous=20
bestiality is perpetrated on innocent and defenceless students? Your =
attempt to=20
exonerate those "serving under Jammeh and Jammeh himself" is as empty as =
the=20
heads of those who pulled the trigger on these unarmed children.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One thing you failed to explain is how =
can=20
responsible Gambian soldiers face young Gambian students and aim at them =
and=20
shoot them in cold-blood. The ruthlessness with which these soldiers =
acted, is a=20
clear sign that "those serving under Jammeh and Jammeh himself " are =
incapable=20
of ruling a decent society.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mr Sey, you are accusing people of =
"Hating", but=20
what transpired in the Gambia on 10th April 2000 is going down =
in our=20
history as the darkest day of our lives. I call you the most=20
undiplomatic diploma because you reacted without getting the true facts =
from=20
home, thus making you the only defender of some trigger-happy, armed =
nitwits. By=20
this action your promotion in Jammeh's dictatorship is =
guaranteed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>BROTHER, JAMMEH MUST GO!!!</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Karamba!
I agree with your suggestion and your choice of
people if it is o.k. with them. I am getting more outraged by the minute
especially after having just read Ebrima Ceesay's update in which he said
that more students have been killed today.
Yankuba Njie has suggested that he can host the petition. I think we
should go ahead and draft the text of the petition for approval. Thanks.
Buharry.
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> I thought I would bounce around an action plan for list members to
consider
> in light of the tragedy we are all trying to deal with. Since we all agree
> something meaningful has to be done relatively quickly, I suggest we
> immediately name a G-L crisis coordinator to be our point man in doing the
> following:
> 1- Be a repository for an emergency fund drive aimed at collecting money
.
> We can all send contributions immediately to this coordinator.
> 2-The said coordinator would then be authorized by us list members to
hire
> lawyers in Gambia pronto to first establish the names and identities of
all
> the victims. Our coordinator and the lawyers can then formerly approach
the
> victims families to offer them representation. This would enable our team
of
> lawyers to meticulously investigate the entire events surrounding the
> massacre by interviewing survivors and talking to witnesses. While the
> government is busy rationalizing the killings and crafting a cover-up, we
too
> can have our people reconstructing the crime. Once the investigative phase
is
> over our lawyers can submit their findings to us and the world. If we
don't
> initiate our own enquiry, these brave students who paid the ultimate price
> would not have the honor, dignity and justice we owe them. None of us have
> any faith in Yahya Jammehs judiciary nor should we even consider awaiting
> their socalled enquiry.
> If list members agree and we proceed today, by the seven day (sarah) I
> anticipate we would have put together some money to even help in the Sarah
.
> Our coordinator would be asked to donate to each of the families by the
> weekend. We can have our lawyers announce by Monday that they have been
> retained by us to handle this matter. They would immediately begin work by
> seeking the release of students still held . I understand the government
is
> trying to arrange a meeting with parents in a cynical attempt to pacify
the
> very obvious anger they know has engulfed the people. With our lawyers
> announcing what amounts to probono representation, the parents can even
> condition any meeting with the government to the presence of counsel to
> shield them from the kinds of wicked manipulation this desperate gov't
would
> try.
> Please list members let us begin rightaway. I would like to suggest Saffie
> Ceesay of Silver Spring , Maryland for the USA and Alpha Robinson for
> Europe. If the suggestion is approved I would send mine this evening.
>
> Thanks
> Karamba
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:50:45 +0200
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From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Gambia Has Lost Her Innocence
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Hi!
Still reeling from the shock of the events of yesterday and today, I =
cannot but wonder about the future of our country. The Gambia's standing =
as a bastion of peace and stability was shattered some five years ago =
and the latest events are but a continuation of a series of awakening =
events that will culminate in a climax. I do not know what that climax =
will be but one thing I am certain about is that the implications of the =
brutal killing of these helpless civilians are a long way from being =
over.
Just as Jawara created Yaya Jammeh, Yaya Jammeh has created hundreds =
if not thousands of replicas of himself. These students who have seen =
their colleagues killed in cold blood have been forever robbed of their =
innocence and the result of their vengeance might lead to Yaya's =
downfall or their radicalisation beyond recognition. The result of this =
radicalisation, if not felt now, will be felt in the future.=20
Ebrima Barry is perhaps the catalyst for change and his death will not =
be in vain. With elections just a year away I can almost prophecy that =
the killing and carnage of the past days will be a significant =
determinant of the results. The government has just isolated the group =
that has been a major force behind it since it took power. Most, if not =
all of these students, might not be eligible to vote but they have =
influence over their illiterate relatives. The relatives of these =
students who are eligible to vote will remember the events of the past =
days come 2001.
If such events continue and the country plunges towards instability, I =
predict that someone somewhere in the Armed Forces will attempt to take =
over. Whether this takeover will be bloodless will be seen as the =
attempts since 1994 have seen The Gambia's innocence shattered bit by =
bit. One thing is certain though: The Gambia has forever lost her =
innocence. Thanks.
=
Buharry. =20
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10.0pt"> Still=20
reeling from the shock of the events of yesterday and today, I cannot =
but wonder=20
about the future of our country. The Gambia's standing as a bastion of =
peace and=20
stability was shattered some five years ago and the latest events =
are but a=20
continuation of a series of awakening events that will culminate in =
a=20
climax. I do not know what that climax will be but one thing I am =
certain about=20
is that the implications of the brutal killing of these helpless =
civilians are a=20
long way from being over.</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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10.0pt"> Just=20
as Jawara created Yaya Jammeh, Yaya Jammeh has created hundreds if not =
thousands=20
of replicas of himself. These students who have seen their colleagues=20
killed in cold blood have been forever robbed of their innocence =
and the=20
result of their vengeance might lead to Yaya's downfall or their=20
radicalisation beyond recognition. The result of this radicalisation, if =
not=20
felt now, will be felt in the future. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: 36pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ebrima Barry is perhaps the catalyst for =
change and=20
his death will not be in vain. With elections just a year away I can =
almost=20
prophecy that the killing and carnage of the past days will be a =
significant=20
determinant of the results. The government has just isolated the group =
that has=20
been a major force behind it since it took power. Most, if not all of =
these=20
students, might not be eligible to vote but they have influence over =
their=20
illiterate relatives. The relatives of these students who are eligible =
to vote=20
will remember the events of the past days come =
2001.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: 36pt"><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If=20
such events continue and the country plunges towards instability, I =
predict that=20
someone somewhere in the Armed Forces will attempt to take over. Whether =
this=20
takeover will be bloodless will be seen as the attempts since 1994 have =
seen The=20
Gambia’s innocence shattered bit by bit. One thing is certain =
though: The Gambia=20
has forever lost her innocence. Thanks.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-INDENT: 36pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN=20
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>OUR heart fell condolences to all the families of the victims of the on
>going students uprising in the gambia. Gambians all over the world share
>the conviction that is a treble tragedy to befall our country at a when
>political tolerance is ats lowest webb.
This is a clear indication what Jammeh and his butchers are capable of
doing, They have done it several times with their own ranks, but this is in
no means the same. How can we trust the gambia national army and all the
security forces with our lives when they can brutally suppressed a peaceful
demonstration by students who are the future of our nation.
The people responsible for this atrocity should be brought to justice as
soon as possible.We demand an independent public enquiry to investigate into
the circumstances surrounding this tragedy.
Our hearts and soul are with them. May Allah rest their souls in perfect
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Essa,
As you can see I'm getting very impatient (more like pissed) about this please
unsubscribe me business. Please unsubscribe yourself the same way you subscribed
to the list and you know why I'm lashing at your request, its because I'm very
upset/angry about what happened back home. So please don't touch on any more
nerves. Enough is Enough!
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> Dr Touray,
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> PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FORTHWITH AND I WOULD STRONGLY
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to country, you have the nerve to challenge your fellow citizens for <BR>
expressing their outrage on the despicable acts of this disreputable <BR>
government you represent. Like all those rodents we call <BR>
intellectuals in our country, you chose to want a pat on the back <BR>
from this rabid dog call Yahya Jammeh over truth, justice, and <BR>
decency. You all not only failed these kids in life, now in death, <BR>
you're trying to earn a medal for standing up to those who dare to <BR>
speak up against brutality. Man you ought to be ashamed of yourself.<BR>
<BR>
If as you said you understand the frustrations expressed here, why do <BR>
you feel the need to come up with your bogus defense of the <BR>
administration at this time. It's also amazing how you differentiate <BR>
yourself and <BR>
Yahya from the gunmen. And please, don't patronize us with such <BR>
nonsense as: some of the victims are my and Yahya's relatives; I <BR>
sent wheel chairs to The Gambia, etc. In other words if you can kill <BR>
your own flesh and blood, who are we to protest about these <BR>
killings. I guess in your view you all are consistent in your <BR>
barbarity. Man shove it where the sun <BR>
don't shine. The Gambian problem is "Daags" like yourself. It's <BR>
your business to "Dogo Dogo" and hope that Yahya will elevate <BR>
your sorry self, but don't you come here with your fluff. You will <BR>
hear us in this forum and everywhere else. Go ahead stuck on stupid, <BR>
for time is running out on you.<BR>
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This poem is dedicated to the parents, especially the mothers, relatives
and friends of the victims of the massacre. I am aware that nothing can
replace their beloved ones who are now gone, but as I search my mind for
answers, these thoughts keep coming up and I thought I should write them
down for you. If these demonstrations had taken place during my school
days, I might have been one of the victims. So I have been thinking of
how my family would have felt and how I would have liked them to feel.
My heart goes out to you all.
Cry not Mama
Trying to make sense
Out of the senseless
Turning around in circles
Sleepless and restless
Trying to feel your pain
Mothers and fathers of the matyres
Young lives taken away
From earth to earth
Living in our hearts
Forever Forever and Forever
Mothers we mourn by your side
You have carried that baby for eight months
The ninth month demanding your breath
The joy you felt after the birth pains
Hoping and dreaming
That your baby will one day be someone
You gave that baby solid food and love
Toiling under the sun
Nothing you would not do
To give that child a future
Fathers we mourn by your side
You work this earth with bare feet
You deny yourself pleasures
To give that child a future
How anxious you were
Waiting to hear from the maternity ward
Or was it from the home
News about your baby
You two took that child to school
With high expectations
To acquire knowledge
For a better future
Then came the gunman
The neighbour’s child he was
No stranger to you
He calls you mother and father
Yet he turned that gun on your children
And took them away from you
Forever Forever and Forever
But cry not Mama
That child is in eternal peace
How can I tell you
How can I make you understand
That your pain is not in vain
That your pain is mine
Some give their lives for others
In their own way
And live forever
Look at me Mama
I am your child
For what your child died for
Will live in me forever
So they all live in me Mama
All those courageous children
And I am not alone Mama
We are all your children
As you dry your tears
Gripped by grief
Your legs feeling numb and heavy
Trying to make sense out of the senseless
Seek consolation in us
We who will carry your child in us
Until we take our last breath
No they did not die in vain!
For what they died for
Cannot be killed Mama
Justice must come
Freedom must come
A new Gambia will be born
It’s only a matter of time
By Alpha Robinson
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hi,
I'm just trying to figure out if this is the same
katim touray I went to 6th form with,89-91.
my name is tida m
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> Judging by recent news accounts, illegal drug
> trafficking is no longer a
> creeping societal menace. Instead, the nation has in
> it's hands a full blown
> crisis. If one attributes much of the increased
> prosecutions or interdictions
> on vigilant law enforcement particularly on the part
> of the drug squad, you
> are left to wonder whether the sheer size or
> frequency of cases don't point
> to a marked increase in the overall volume of drug
> dealing. From the seaport
> to the airport not to mention at the numerous porous
> borders, police are said
> to be seizing large volumes of drugs that seem to be
> headed to third
> countries primarily in Europe. Over the years
> dealers have evolved a rather
> sophisticated method of operation that relies on
> moving the drugs from
> producer countries, taking them to transshipment
> countries and finally to
> consumer nations. Typically the dealers look to
> small and strategically
> located countries like those in the Caribbean for
> dealers interested in the
> US market and West Africa for dealers angling for
> Western Europe. Countries
> where there is a penchant for corruption and greed
> become particularly
> susceptible as the dealers are more than willing to
> aggressively buy access
> and influence. Even individuals who up until the
> drug proliferation have been
> engaged in legitimate business may not be immune to
> the ever present desire
> to make quick money relatively easily either through
> participation in
> laundering transactions or serving as conduits
> during transshipment. Our
> country fits this rather ominous bill and I fear the
> emerging trends point to
> a nation at the cusp of being gradually overwhelmed
> by crime syndicates who
> want to use Gambia as a major drug transshipment
> point by taking advantage of
> the nation's weak capacity for law enforcement and
> overall border insecurity
> and pervasive corruption. We don't frown on much
> less investigate folks who
> display sudden wealth. Instead they can expect much
> adulation and respect
> thus fueling the never ending myth that there is
> indeed easy and fast money
> to made out there. Once we manage to get stuck with
> the dubious distinction
> of being a major drug transshipment point, we will
> find out that it is almost
> impossible to shake off such a label. Just ask the
> good people of Nigeria who
> must endure humiliating treatment as they travel the
> world. Bad reputations
> on nations are often like albatrosses; they
> persistently hang on the necks of
> citizens. As a result a legitimate businessman who
> just wants to come to New
> York or Madrid to buy merchandise for his store in
> Albert Market would find
> himself subject to endless scrutiny for simple
> business visa application that
> should be routine and automatic.
> Consequently, list members I would suggest the
> government do two things
> as a matter of urgency. First enact into law severe
> penalties that includes
> mandatory sentences for those found guilty of
> possession, distribution and
> laundering drug proceeds. The current laws are
> inadequate to serve as a
> deterrent. Secondly the scope, training and
> resources of the drug squad has
> to be vastly increased if the problem can even begin
> to be addressed. One way
> to make the unit more effective is to reconstitute
> it to incorporate a marine
> detachment that would be assigned through a
> defense department laison , a
> similar detachment from customs specifically trained
> to look for drugs and a
> phalanx of trained detectives all under the overall
> command of the director
> of the drug squad. This would enable the unit to
> have better surveillance
> especially at the airport and at the sea where the
> transshipments must occur.
> The idea is to choke off the dealers ability to ship
> the drugs out of the
> Gambia to the consuming markets assuming he has an
> easier time getting it in
> through the porous border. While I do not
> underestimate the threat drugs pose
> to our own people considering all the attendant
> problems of crime and other
> ills drug consumption precipitates, the real
> incentive for these hideous
> dealers is the richer overseas markets. We must slay
> this monster before the
> nation is overwhelmed. The resources for a revamped
> drug squad should come
> from existing government allocations. I would get it
> from two sources; from
> the D60 million allocated to the Presidency over
> D3million of which is slated
> to be paid to Yahya Jammeh as perdiem and personal
> allowances for the
> nonsensical trips he makes the world over. The rest
> would be the entire
> allocation for the N.I.A for fiscal 2000. They ought
> to be disbanded , and
> be asked to hand in their radios and expensive cell
> phones and summarily
> dismissed because they are up to no good other than
> hauling reporters and
> other innocent civilians to their dingy offices to
> visit evil on them.
> If we don't do anything soon, we will find ourselves
> run by drug kingpins.
>
> Karamba
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kabir, Saul, Yus and a lot of others who had seen Essa Sey trying to divert
this unfortunate killings to an attitude issue, I am glad that he have come
to realize that fighting on this forum is not our intentions. It is very
unfortunate that at times some people become so emotional and forget that we
are all human beings before any affiliations. I am sure if Mr. Essa was shot
at the least two demonstrations he attended as a student, he would not have
had this opportunity to represent such a leader.
On the hand I understand Essa's frustrations he directly addressed to me. The
guy is guilty by association. And I am sure he knows that I do not hate him.
That reverse psychology Mr. Sey is trying to play here would not work. I am
not surprised that he is begging to be unsubscribed 24hrs. after writing that
he will stand to all those who will be here to write the truth against this
government.
Anyway, let us all focus on the issue at hand and come up with some kind of
strategy to make our feelings known. If it means to picket the Embassies and
to seriously work towards side lining Jammeh the killer and his government in
the International world. There is a lot we could do together and just as Essa
is begging to be unsubscribed, Jammeh will beg to be forgiven in the courts
soon.
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Karamba,
I second this idea.
pettidu Ceesay
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> I thought I would bounce around an action plan for list members to
consider
> in light of the tragedy we are all trying to deal with. Since we all agree
> something meaningful has to be done relatively quickly, I suggest we
> immediately name a G-L crisis coordinator to be our point man in doing the
> following:
> 1- Be a repository for an emergency fund drive aimed at collecting money
.
> We can all send contributions immediately to this coordinator.
> 2-The said coordinator would then be authorized by us list members to
hire
> lawyers in Gambia pronto to first establish the names and identities of
all
> the victims. Our coordinator and the lawyers can then formerly approach
the
> victims families to offer them representation. This would enable our team
of
> lawyers to meticulously investigate the entire events surrounding the
> massacre by interviewing survivors and talking to witnesses. While the
> government is busy rationalizing the killings and crafting a cover-up, we
too
> can have our people reconstructing the crime. Once the investigative phase
is
> over our lawyers can submit their findings to us and the world. If we
don't
> initiate our own enquiry, these brave students who paid the ultimate price
> would not have the honor, dignity and justice we owe them. None of us have
> any faith in Yahya Jammehs judiciary nor should we even consider awaiting
> their socalled enquiry.
> If list members agree and we proceed today, by the seven day (sarah) I
> anticipate we would have put together some money to even help in the Sarah
.
> Our coordinator would be asked to donate to each of the families by the
> weekend. We can have our lawyers announce by Monday that they have been
> retained by us to handle this matter. They would immediately begin work by
> seeking the release of students still held . I understand the government
is
> trying to arrange a meeting with parents in a cynical attempt to pacify
the
> very obvious anger they know has engulfed the people. With our lawyers
> announcing what amounts to probono representation, the parents can even
> condition any meeting with the government to the presence of counsel to
> shield them from the kinds of wicked manipulation this desperate gov't
would
> try.
> Please list members let us begin rightaway. I would like to suggest Saffie
> Ceesay of Silver Spring , Maryland for the USA and Alpha Robinson for
> Europe. If the suggestion is approved I would send mine this evening.
>
> Thanks
> Karamba
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Mr Gassama, I would like to piggy back on your post to add a few additional
news tidbits that the BBC's Network Africa has reported. As Ebrima Ceesay
confirmed earlier, the unrest has now spread to the provinces. There have
been reports of students going on the rampage in Janjanbureh and Farafenni.
In Janjanbureh, especially, government property has again been destroyed.
On the casualty figures, the BBC' s reporter in Banjul, Ebrima Sillah, said
that he visited the mortuary in Banjul and was told by at least 12 different
parents that they had lost their loved ones. One particularly moving
interview with a Sierra Leonean immigrant who lost his son almost drove me to
tears.
Mr. Sillah, further said that the Gambian public is confused about the spate
of events. Not because the students rioted, but about why the security forces
would shoot innocent children? Meanwhile, all parents in the Kombos have
been cautioned to keep their kids at home.
I would like to add that for those of you questioning why the students rioted
and those making excuses for the stupid brutes who are directly responsible
for the killings, there is only so much that the human spirit can take before
unrest happens. We have seen it time and time again in history. These
students were smart enough to realize that Ebrima Barry's death was a
manifestation of a much larger problem that the country was facing,
incompetence, indifference and just a state of affairs that had spiraled out
of control due to the barbaric rule of a mad semi-illiterate despot.
But I assure you that they did not die in vain. All the school kids that
died yesterday, including the three year old boy that also got shot down, are
martyrs who died fighting for basic human rights and decency in our country.
Let us never forget them.
The time has come for a collective action. Let us take action quickly and
put all these plans that have been suggested into motion.
Yus
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Essa Bokar Sey,
With respect to the ilk of your kind and the rest of Jammeh's
"intellectual" apologists, I will be preaching to the deaf about Jammeh's
banditry and his loutish philistines who are currently posing as our nation's
"law enforcement officers." I wonder whether you and your type did have a
wink of sleep yesterday as you begin to do what you do best; deny Jammeh's
criminality.
For all that it is worth, no one will mourn your demands to be
unsubscribed from the List. What a good self riddance! We are less one pocket
filling deadwood Jammeh Crony who has no conscience from Gambia-L.
Ambassador the least you could [or the rest of the civilian lackeys
pimping for Jammeh] for yourself is to protest out loudly against this
current display of barbarity by your regime and resign with the little
integrity you would be lucky to be left with. If any thing your type are
guilty by associating with a man like Jammeh who would stop at nothing to
murder, maim and plunder Gambians and the Gambia alike. The fact that you
could come online and rattle off that absurd pantomime self serving nonsense
tells me you have no scruples and would only see the light when Jammeh boots
you out, something that is inevitable when you are no longer useful to him.
Aha, then you begin to reason and realise why people like Saul Saidykhan are
full of hatred for these trigger happy philistines masquerading as democrats
in the Gambia today. But then the doors to salvation would have been shut and
you would be left out there in the cold with your baggage of guilt, all
alone. Be forewarned the day of reckoning is not far away for Jammeh and all
those who have/are contributed/contributing to rot our country. The student
demonstrations are the beginning of a beginning; the beginning of an end. An
end to all the rapid deterioration you have caused the Gambia. A harbinger to
the final episodes of the endless nightmares your ugly regime has unleashed
on Gambians. Enough is enough! The People just can't take the pressure and
brutal orgies no more. And would stand up to tyranny as was evinced by
yesterday's demonstrations
As it is/happened, you have blood on your hands as you come online to
massage the truth with half truths and endless spins about what happened.
What possible reason would soldiers have in shooting at point blank students,
who at any rate, are not armed to the teeth as the soldiers were? AND FOR YOU
TO SUBTLY LAY BLAME AT THE DOORSTEP OF THE STUDENTS FOR THE SHOOT-OUT IS THE
ULTIMATE INSULT TO OUR INTELLIGENCE!! Essa Bokar Sey, you should just be
ashamed of yourself!!! As fresh reports from the grapevine reach me, it is
said that the Veep on the orders of Jammeh himself, ordered their shooting
during an Emergency Cabinet meeting. And to think that once upon a time,
Hamjatta Kanteh kept saying to anyone who would listen that Isatou Njie Saidy
was the best thing to happen to the Jammeh administration. Let me be a
hypocrite and recant that.
To keep denying Jammeh's murderous reign or his unsuitability for the
Gambia, would put you in the same camp [or worse] as Irving the Right Wing
Historian and Holocaust denier. As I write this, news is on everywhere how he
had lost his case at the Old Bailey; branded a racist and a Holocaust denier
by the presiding judge. Not to mention that his reputation lays in tatters. I
hope you take cue from this cos as they say, truth crushed to the ground have
a subliminal and defiant way of rising and standing tall again.
To you and the rest of your fellow opportunist travellers and Jammeh
Lackeys, I say this to before you go beyond salvation: QUIT PIMPING FOR
JAMMEH AND LISTEN TO THAT INNER VOICE IN YOUR CONSCIENCES THAT ASKS YOU WHAT
IT BENEFITS YOU TO GAIN THIS WORLD ONLY TO LOSE YOUR SOUL [IF YOU HAVE ANY]
AND RESIGN WITH THE LITTLE GRACE YOU STILL HAVE LEFT.
As my Jamaican neighbours cogently like to put it, can't say you've never
been warned Mr Ambassador. Till then keep massaging the truth with half
truths and endless spins. No imaginable earthly or mortal force can block
your day of reckoning from reaching us. I hope that salves your conscience.
Hamjatta Kanteh
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Folks,
I know most of us are still reeling from what has happened yesterday. The
anger has been pouring in from all corners. This is the eleventh hour,
everyone has to be wary lest the thief comes and snatch away our conscience
while we're asleep. Essentially, what I'm saying is that over the next few
days some people will be trying hard to turn the facts around and demonize
the victims, in this case the students.
The tone of some remarks quoted in the Gambian press is beginning to lay the
blame on the students, that they shouldn't have demonstrated in the way they
did, that it is every parent's responsibility to caution his/her child not
to be involved in such activities. There we go, typical Gambian attitude in
such situations, "hey man bookuma deh", "ndaati jee" "mitawaa ka". Then
when the walls come crumbling down over our heads we start looking at
eachother.
It is only dictatorial societies that ban demonstrations, that shoot and
kill innocent unarmed civilians and then turn around and blame the victims!
In Senegal student strikes are almost a rule and not the exception. In the
countless hit and run battles with the feared "GMI", the "beret rouge", I
have never witnessed a single gun shot. Yet here, we are talking about
mature students, some with families, who wouldn't back off from the stare of
a police officer. Never once, regardless of the stone throwing, tear gas,
and beatings on both sides have I heard a single gun shot for five years.
Again I believe that respect is mutual. A person only deserves respect if he
respects you.
The souls of the babies that died on the streets of Serekunda will haunt all
of us if we sit back and look.
Hamadi.
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Alpha Robinson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> This poem is dedicated to the parents, especially the mothers, relatives
> and friends of the victims of the massacre. I am aware that nothing can
> replace their beloved ones who are now gone, but as I search my mind for
> answers, these thoughts keep coming up and I thought I should write them
> down for you. If these demonstrations had taken place during my school
> days, I might have been one of the victims. So I have been thinking of
> how my family would have felt and how I would have liked them to feel.
> My heart goes out to you all.
>
> Cry not Mama
>
> Trying to make sense
> Out of the senseless
> Turning around in circles
> Sleepless and restless
> Trying to feel your pain
>
>
Alpha,
This is quite powerful! I fought in futility against a mist that formed in
one eye and followed into the other, both of which eventually became what I
tried to deny since yesterday that I would shed, tears.!
I'll save this one.
Regards.
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G--L
Students were the initial and primary backbone supporter of the Jammeh regime.
They saw in him the fullfilling of their dreams, a brighter future, guarantees
to opportunities and better things to come. When High schools were constructed,
it only reaffirmed their belief to their hero. Now, what an irony, their heroe
has snuffed away their young lives, and hopefullness has turned to utter
despair.
Extending my condolenses to all parents and the Gambia as a whole. To the G-L,
the lives of these kids should not go away in vain.
Musa Jeng
Ceesay Soffie wrote:
> "YOU MUST BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE IN THE WORLD". Mahatma Ghandi
>
> I join Gambians the world over in condemning the barbarism that has been
> visited upon our FUTURE. I mourn the deaths of these courageous souls and I
> extend my condolences to all parents in the Gambia.
>
> I have not been able to stop the tears since hearing of the MASSACRE. How
> do I say to parents mourning the lose of a child that YOUR CHILD WAS/IS PART
> OF SOMETHING POSITIVE; THAT YOUR CHILD KNEW THAT TO CHALLENGE THE STATUS-QUO
> IS TO BE LIBERATED; THROUGH THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS THESE KIDS TOOK NECESSARY
> ACTION IN THE HOPES OF TRANSFORMING OUR SOCIETY; THESE KIDS KNOW THAT WHAT
> WE HAVE IN THE GAMBIA IS A PERVERSION REALITY; AFTERALL, WHAT IS OPPORTUNITY
> WITHOUT FREEDOM? HOW CAN THESE PARENTS SEE THROUGH THEIR PAIN THAT THEIR
> LOSE IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE IN VAIN? OR DO THEY KNOW THE IMPLICATIONS OF
> THESE KIDS' ACTION? I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THEY DO.
>
> The call for action has been heeded by these brave souls and nothing, not
> even the guns will stop the massive wave of change that these students have
> initiated. To the apologists for this sick, sick regime, FOR SHAME!!!
> Victimizing and brutalizing our people will be stamped out by all and any
> means necessary. Let's keep the mobilization effort going. Abdoulaye,
> re-send your call for the letter writing campaign so that those of us who
> were hesitant or were procrastinating will take action; If for no other
> reason but to stand in solidarity with our brothers and sisters back home,
> write and send those letters out. Do it! The inevitable consequence of our
> inactivity will be our mendicant existence for as long as we keep quiet.
> Let us cut the cancerous cells out.
>
> Mr. Sey, the hatred you are talking about is visited on the Gambian people
> by you and yours and I mean it personally. Think about it! The man you
> serve is nothing but an egocentric wannabe who has a neurotic need to self
> destruct and we are seeing it. Won't you jump out of the ship before it
> sinks with you? Is it worth the respect that people have for you, your
> dignity? What about your conscience?
>
> In pain, feeling numb, yet knowing I can't sit still .....
>
> For the liberation struggle
>
> Soffie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yusupha Jow [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 10:54 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Massacre of Students in The Gambia
>
> Your "excellency" Bokarr Sey, it is absolutely shocking and
> sad that you have
> chosen this moment to further your government's cause. As
> an official
> representative of the Gambia govt, you should have joined
> all of us in
> condemning what happened today. Instead you chose to
> represent yourself and
> govt by using half truths and half baked statements.
>
> In your attempt to dissociate the regime from today's tragic
> incident you
> state:
> Quote
> I want to put it you personally that there is no one amongst
> us serving under
> Jammeh and Jammeh himself who would be so irresponsible to
> order the massacre
> of students
> Unquote
>
> In response to this statement, my question is whether the
> top military
> commanders in the GNA do not serve under Jammeh? Unless the
> military chain
> of command has completely crumbled, your statement, coming
> from the Gambian
> Ambassador to France, should be considered as a shameful
> attempt to cover the
> truth.
>
> In your continuing bumbled attempt to defend I don't know
> what, you state:
> Quote
> I want those of you whirling accusations to know that some
> of those students
> who lost their lives are closely related to people working
> under Jammeh.Some
> are related to Jammeh himself. Did you know that?
> Unquote
>
> This statement is not relevant in relation to what happened
> today. As far as
> most of us are concerned, all that counts is that innocent
> students were
> killed today. I even doubt the validity of the statement
> you made since
> there is no evidence to support your claims.
>
> Unfortunately, you have chosen this time to defend your
> regime. But history
> has been the best judge of tyrants and their coconspirators.
> Time will tell!
>
> Yus
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Mr. Sey,
This is senseless babble from you. Accept the hard facts. Do not follow your
individual interest.
Bamba
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>Monsieur Njie,
>
> No shame no dog attitude but the eagerness for the
>decency of our intellectual discorse is what matters.You are posing as
>someone who's trying to rectify but you're also submerged that usual
>attitudenal problem.Call me whatever, no problem and please take all my
>articles and put them in a metalic safe for your future court,this is
>serious! IMPATIENCE THRU OUT.
>
> Mr.Njie i am not a poet to be blindfolded by insults and
>curses from you or any other person please.This forum as far as i can
>understand is for all and sundry whether you support The current Gvt or
>not!
>
> DR TOURAY PLEASE UNSUBSRIBE ME FORTHWITH BECAUSE
>MY FEELINGS ARE THS FORUM IS CREATED FOR HATRED and nothing else!
>
>
> Thanks to those who care and wish you well
>
> Essa Bokarr Sey.
>
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>Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>Mr. Sey,
>
>Look at the shameful way in which you are trying to divert attention
>from the real issue at hand here.
>
>First you try to defend the indefensible, and when faced by
>overwhelming condemnation of your running dog attitude, instead of
>doing the hounarable thing, you try to shift the focus away from the
>real problem. Saul's attitude is not the issue here! We are talking
>about the murder of Gambian school children, for heaven sake!
>
>Dictators like the one you represent have been known to murder even
>their close family members. Saul's position on this issue (mass murder)
>is shared by all who've cared to raise their voices, except of course
>you and we all know why. Don't sell your soul to the devil brother.
>Remember all you say on this forum will be achived and history shall be
>the judge.
>
>If every member of this list had Saul's attitude, clowns like the ones
>you represent would never rule over our people.
>
>Writers and poets side with their people not with the oppressors of the
>people. When next I need to give an example of a true reactionary, I
>know where to look.
>
>It does not matter how many containers you ship to the Gambia for the
>benifit of students if you adapt an apologetic stance when they are
>turtured, raped and gunned down by virtual zombies when they dare to
>protest.
>
>Yes, there are those of us who have consciences and shall make our
>voices heard, no matter what!
>
>Kabir.
>
>--- Essa Sey wrote:
> > Saul,
> >
> > Out of all that you said i'll let you know that the best is to
> > tackle things logically.Mr.khan since i joined this forum i've been a
> > keen follower of all your postings but one thing i want you to know
> > is that,
> >
> > Questions like who are you?ETC.Do not pain me because as far as i am
> > concerned i am nothing else
> >
> > but a human being.I will not be around receiving your unwarranted
> > bitterness you can continue to say whatever you want because that is
> > your identity on the forum.You've been doing the same to others
> > before me so rest assured that i'll repell all baseless articles from
> > you without hesitation.
> >
> > Apart from that i won't respond to your personal attacks because you
> > do not know me personally and i am sure that your "roaring" pride
> > will let you say in your next art.that you don't care to know who i
> > am.
> >
> > Please lets not be reacting with hatred.Your response has confirmed
> > to me that you personally hate others.That in itself reduces ones
> > qualities. Come what may Mr khan please lets not hate each other. My
> > eyes are full of tears to see you a Gambian brother write to me with
> > hatred!
> >
> > Why saul? WHY? LETS NOT HATE EACH OTHER PLEASE.
> >
> >
> > Essa Bokarr Sey
> >
>
>
>
>
>Mr njie,
>
> Go ahead and call me whatever;you are not conversant wth decent
>intellectual discourse thats why you call people DOGS etc.
>
> Shame is for those who hide and talk but i am here dealing with
>the issue as a Gambian.
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ousman,
"ela hajo topotoo"
hi this is tida,just messing with you.
say hi to musukebba,if you are the wrong ousman pls
forgive me,I believe you are ousman at MD.
tida
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>
> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822
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> Subject: Re: Dr.Katim Touray i am bowing and begging
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>
> kabir, Saul, Yus and a lot of others who had seen
> Essa Sey trying to divert
> this unfortunate killings to an attitude issue, I am
> glad that he have come
> to realize that fighting on this forum is not our
> intentions. It is very
> unfortunate that at times some people become so
> emotional and forget that we
> are all human beings before any affiliations. I am
> sure if Mr. Essa was shot
> at the least two demonstrations he attended as a
> student, he would not have
> had this opportunity to represent such a leader.
> On the hand I understand Essa's frustrations he
> directly addressed to me. The
> guy is guilty by association. And I am sure he knows
> that I do not hate him.
> That reverse psychology Mr. Sey is trying to play
> here would not work. I am
> not surprised that he is begging to be unsubscribed
> 24hrs. after writing that
> he will stand to all those who will be here to write
> the truth against this
> government.
> Anyway, let us all focus on the issue at hand and
> come up with some kind of
> strategy to make our feelings known. If it means to
> picket the Embassies and
> to seriously work towards side lining Jammeh the
> killer and his government in
> the International world. There is a lot we could do
> together and just as Essa
> is begging to be unsubscribed, Jammeh will beg to be
> forgiven in the courts
> soon.
>
>
> Ousman Bojang.
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:22:40 +0100
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G-l,
take a look at some of the reactions from the public are they not blaming
the students when they should stand by them?
ARRESTS
The riot police have been helpless in quelling the riot. Few security
officers were seen with batons and poor riot gear and at the Kanifing
estate/University of The Gambia area; the riot police and students were
reported to be howling stones at each other. At the Radio 1 FM junction, few
arrests were made but unfortunately the arrested students who received some
beating before entering the awaiting military truck were mainly young
schoolgirls. The proprietor of Radio 1 FM, George Christensen who was
earlier talking to the students to go home and stop the violence, intervened
with some elderly persons around. They persuaded the riot police to release
the girls, arguing that they were not involved in the riot. They eventually
rescued most of them. However, a 13-year-old boy, another female student
from Latrikunda Junior Secondary and a motor mechanic who was accused by the
riot police of harbouring the rioters in his workshop were taken away to an
unknown destination.
THE PUBLIC REACTIONS
Most of the people interviewed about the violent demonstration, condemned
the students' action and called for immediate public enquiry into the riots.
A human rights Lawyer, Mary A Samba-Christensen opined that "I think the
students can put in their anger and problems in different ways which would
be more effective, make representations to the attorney-general and to the
president of the republic, instead of frustrating themselves by stopping
vehicles and interrupting services and so on. They can make a peaceful
representation to the relevant authorities and I'm sure with the present
attorney general, he would take it upon himself to ensure that their
problems would be addressed. I regret to see the situation deteriorating to
this level".
Mrs Samba-Christensen advised parents to talk to their children, tell them
the proper ways and means of expressing themselves about their problems,
make proper representation to the right authorities.
An onlooker said that the Secretary of State attempted to address the
students and they disrupted everything. "I support the students
demonstrations but not when it is violent. They should just demonstrate
peacefully and not loot or attack anybody. The paramilitary officers should
find a way to calm them and not to beat the students or shoot at them," she
said.
"We need justice. They have to do something about the death of the student.
Yahya Jammeh should act at once. The fire service officers should be
punished", a woman who was searching for her child said.
"The paramilitary even came to our school, ICE and disturb us where we were
taking our examinations. Some of them shot at us and that also provoked us
to take to the streets", a rioting student said.
The situation is under full control as reports are being filled in from
various parts of the Greater Banjul Area concerning the students' rampage
culled from the gambianet.
A.A Drammeh.
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Please do not afford ambassador Sey, the privilege of running for the tall
grass by granting his wish to be unsubscribed. If only Mr. Sey's
sensibilities are offended by the discourse on this forum, then I submit we
have committed no actionable wrong.
Mr. Sey, of his own volition serves this regime and should be possessed of
sufficient intestinal fortitude to withstand criticism of it's latest outrage.
Should the list managers be inclined not to grant Ambassador Sey's wish to be
unsubscribed, I fully undertake to defend their noncompliance with his
request in any forum, gratis.
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:30:06 +0200
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Ja, det var ett utmärkt initiativ från Momodou att v
visa på skönheten i ett av de skandinaviska språken, och jag bidrar gärna
med svenska språket.
Franska verkar väldigt vackert, har jag alltid tyckt, men är för mig lika
jävla förbannat obegripligt som detta meddelande är för 99 procent av
deltagarna på Gambialistan.
med vänliga hälsningar
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> Skal vi også nu begynde at skrive på de Skandinaviske sprog her
> på Gambia-l? Jeg tror ikke det ville være mange det kan læse hvis
> vi gøre det:-)
>
> Et elektronisk kædebrev, som i øjeblikket går verden rundt med
> løfte om en gratis WAP-telefon fra Ericsson har giver travlhed i
> Ericssons svenske hovedkvarter
>
> Stakkels "[log in to unmask]"!
> Hvis hun ellers eksisterer må hendes e-post-indbakke være ved at
> gå over sine bredder.
> Danmark og den øvrige verden døjer i disse dage med et
> elektronisk kædebrev, som opfordrer mailbrugere til at videresende
> brevet til en halv snes bekendte - med cc-kopi til nævnte Anna
> Swelund. Til gengæld for ulejligheden modtager man en splinterny
> R320 WAP-telefon.
>
> Men det er fup og fidus, fortæller Helena Norrman fra Ericssons
> hovedkvarter i Stockholm til avisen Sydsvenskan.
> Ifølge ordlyden skulle kædebrevet forsyne Ericsson med "værdifuld
> kunde-feedback" og være ment som et modtræk mod konkurrenten
> Nokias projekt med at forære mobiltelefoner væk via Internet (dét
> brev er også fup og fidus).
>
> Ikke bare Anna Swelund, men også andre Ericsson-ansatte er
> blevet bombarderet med tusindvis af e-mails fra håbefulde, som
> altså højst kan regne med at inkassere lange næser.
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> Med venlig hilsen,
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Am I the only one outraged by the "Daily Observer's"
article on the massacre of the Gambian students
yesterday? If you have not seen it yet, see for
yourself below (As posted by Momodou Camara on G-L)
How dare they? The article suggested that the
student's were the cause of the escalation of the
incident, to the point of murder by the paramilitary
officers. It suggested that the Paramilitary
personnel, only acted out of fear for their safety and
out of desperation. Almost as if they only reacted in
self defense. Is observer hinting that the dead
students are responsible for their own death? Will
someone explain to me how trained, armed, killing
machines like those "Jammeh Assassins" can justify
their fear of defenseless school children? How can
they justify their "claimed acts of Self Defense"
against innocent youths armed with nothing?
I swear as I was reading it, I was almost sure that I
was reading a report on the incident put out by Jammeh
and his "Puppet Government." What is going on
OBSERVER? What happened to the brave front you used to
present and your usual reporting of injustices by the
government. Why have you decided to play it save in
this, the Gambian People's most hour of need? I have
to say, as a former fan of the newspaper, that am
greatly disappointed. This is not a time to report
"Government Friendly Material." It is a time to
report the truth, a time for you and all other
vehicles of journalism to use that unrivaled power of
the press, to make sure the voice of the Gambian
people are heard world wide. I think that if our
young can be out in the streets of Gambia facing
bullets and laying down their lives, we the adults can
surely be shocked into action. For we have indeed
failed them. If we had knipped Jammeh's lunatic
outbursts of crazed dictatorship from the beginning,
then our young will not have found it necessary to lay
down their lives in other to achieve justice. As it
is, we should be ashamed of the fact that we did
indeed watch on and in the process, let our brothers
and sisters down. For we should be the protectors of
our future leaders. Hence, the least we can do now,
is to make sure that those who died did not die in
vain. And if anything, I would expect the press to
lead this call for justice. I definitely did not
expect the Daily Observer to be the one poking at our
wounds by almost blaming our dead for their own
murders. Please tell me that you were monitored or
forced to write this article against your will. For I
cannot believe that such a fine mechanism of
journalism would drop the batton in the midst of the
race. In the Spirit of true journalism, I invoke you
to divert this course your newspaper has taken. We
all know that often, it is the press who help re-write
modern history. So help us re-write our history.
Help us take the reigns of our country from these
murderous, inhumane creatures. In Your Heart You Know
The Truth, So Let It Be Heard or better yet, in this
case, Let It Be Read.
I look forward to FOROYAA's version of the events.
Momodou Camara
The Daily Observer Published 04/11/00
10 DEAD IN STUDENTS DEMO
At least ten people are reported to have died
following clashes between
demonstrating students and armed police and soldiers
yesterday.
Students from schools in Serrekunda, Banjul, Brikama
and Bakau, went
out on the
streets to protest against what they said was the
'slow pace' of
justice in the
prosecution of the Brikama fire officers who were
alleged to have
caused the
death of student Ebrima Barry, and an unidentified
uniformed officer
alleged to
have raped the 13-year-old Brikama-ba school girl.
Among the dead in yesterday's clashes was Red cross
volunteer, Omar
Barrow, who
is also the editor of Sud FM Radio, Banjul.Last week,
students under
the aegis
of Gambia Students Union (Gamsu) sent messages to
schools in the
Greater Banjul
Area informing of the strike. Messages on posters were
also pinned up
in
schools and along streets in Serrekunda.
Alerted about the strike, the department of state for
the Interior
Sunday
issued a press release warning students against
staging a strike and
stressed
that no attempt to disrupt the peace will be allowed.
Sources at Interior said the executive members of
Gamsu were invited to
a
meeting where they were briefed on government's
efforts to speedily
prosecute
the alleged errant officers.
However, at about 8am Monday, students carrying white
banners with
slogans,
"Justice for Ebrima Barry", "We rather die than
injustice", "Respect
the future
leaders", "Redeploy Brikama fire officers" and
chanting, "We are hot,
very,
very hot!", "We want freedom and justice!", began
gathering at GTTI
where they
were to begin the supposedly "peaceful" demonstration.
A contingent of paramilitary officers arrived at the
scene and
cautioned the
students to call off the strike. They refused to
comply. A short while
later,
armed forces chief of staff, Babucarr Jatta, and army
commander, Lt Col
Momodou
Badjie, arrived and urged the students to remain calm.
The students began throwing stones when the
paramilitary officers
barred their
way. The officers reacted by firing shots into the
air. There was
pandemonium
as some of the students ran amok while others did mock
battle with the
armed
officers.
The paramilitary officers regrouped at the mobile
traffic unit as the
students
in disparate groups advanced towards the Westfield
junction, setting up
road
blocks and setting vehicle tyres on fire.
At the Westfield junction, Col Jatta and Interior
secretary, Ousman
Badjie,
tried to calm the students without success.
The students vandalised the Westfield Gamtel office,
burning the
building and
smashing to smithreens the computers and furniture.
They continued on the stoning spree along Kairaba
Avenue breaking shop
glasses
and setting ablaze vehicles. The students were joined
by street boys
and shops
and stalls were looted.
The Gamtel Serrekunda Exchange, Gambia Television
offices and the
adjoining
Serrekunda Post Office were attacked. The post office
was vandalised
without
restraint as windows were smashed, post boxes opened
and parcels
looted. Gamtel
coin phone booths were not spared as well as the Daily
Observer
offices.
At about 9.18am the Churchill's Town Fire and
Ambulance Services
compound was
attacked and two fire machines, one bearing the number
plate, G3A 4214
were
burnt.
The Bundung police station was burnt as well as part
of the Serrekunda
police station where inmates were freed.Kotu police
and fire station
were attacked. Sources in Brikama said the fire
engines were attacked and
the pol
ice station gutted to the ground. Armed personnel were
said to have
been redeployed in the town.
The mobile traffic headquarters was also attacked,
windscreens of
vehicles smashed, including one police siren car and
three motorbikes.The
students jeered at the deputy inspector general of
police and Baba Jobe
when they
tried to calm them. The students seized DIG Badjie's
cap but returned
it to him later.
The president of Gamsu, Omar Joof, and some of his
executive members
had to flee on board a pick-up vehicle in a hail of
stones after he tried
to address the students.
Some of the students seized police shields, helmets
and uniforms,
wearing them.Our reporter, Ben Gomez, said he saw a
student pick up a gun
dropped by a fleeing paramilitary officer and wanted
to open fire but
there was n
o cartridge.
The paramilitary officers were said to have been
barricaded in a
building where they ran for safety for about 20
minutes as thick smoke from
burning tyres oozed on them.The officers then opened
fire and according
to our r
eporter, three students wearing black and white
uniforms fell down and
were motionless.
At the Serrekunda Post Office, Col Jatta, who was
making frantic
efforts to douse the flames of violence was accosted
by the students who
escorted him on foot along Kairaba Avenue to the
paramilitary base in
Kanifing wher
e he was rescued. The students were forced to retreat
under rounds of
gunfire lasting 20 minutes.
By last evening, Red Cross officials said at least 10
people have died
and many injured including a three year-old-boy. Most
of the injured
were admitted at the RVH intensive care unit.
Armed soldiers were patrolling the streets
yesterday.The violence,
damage to property and loss of life have been roundly
condemned by many
people who appealed to the security forces to ensure
that Monday's encore
is not r
epeated.
Omar Barrow Killed
Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and the editor at
Sud FM radio
station, Banjul, was shot to death during the student
demonstration
yesterday.
In a press release issued last evening, Gambia Red
Cross Society
(GRCS), explained: "Mr Omar Barrow died at the Royal
Victoria Hospital in
Banjul after all efforts to save his life. Omar
Barrow was shot within
the premis
es of GRCS whilst rendering humanitarian services
during the student
demonstration of Monday, April 10, 2000. At the time
of the gunshot, Mr
Omar
Barrow was wearing a clearly marked protective Red
Cross emblem, that
is, a Red
Cross bib and helmet, which is in line with the
international code of
conduct
in relief operations and in conformity with the Geneva
Conventions.
Mr Omar Barrow is a member of the GRCS emergency
response team and the
resource
development committee. Mr Barrow, a very active and
dedicated Red Cross
volunteer, died in the line of duty.
The entire membership of the Gambia Red Cross Society
will observe a
week of
mourning for the late Omar Barrow, effective April 10,
2000, all in
ceremonial
uniforms or Red Cross T-shirts."
The Red Cross said it extends condolences to the
family and friends of
Omar
Barrow.The late Omar Barrow is survived by a wife and
a seven-month-old
baby
girl.
Region 1, 2 schools closed
Following yesterday's bloody clashes involving
students and armed
police and
soldiers, Office of the President has ordered the
immediate closure of
all
schools and tertiary institutions in Banjul, Kanifing
municipal area
and
Western Division.
A press release to the effect, issued yesterday
afternoon read:"This
morning
some students in regions 1 and 2, under the leadership
and guidance of
the
Gambia Student's Union, went into rampage causing
obstructions to
traffic and
disrupting school mock exams that were in progress.
It is further known that certain students forced their
way into some
schools
and dragged their colleagues to join them in this
unwarranted and
unruly
behaviour.
Number of casualties and the level of damage to
property are currently
under
investigation.Government has therefore decided that
all schools and
tertiary
institutions in regions 1 and 2 be closed with
immediate effect, until
further
notice.
All parents are hereby advised to keep their children
at home and to
await
further instructions from the department of state for
Education.The
security
services will be on full alert and patrol to ensure
the safety of lives
and
property.
The general public and all visitors to The Gambia are
assured that the
government will not compromise the security and
stability of the
country under
any circumstances. The situation is completely under
control and all
are
advised to go about their normal business as usual.
Everyone is urged to fully cooperate with the security
services and to
report
any criminal act and banditry to the nearest police station."
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Gambians, I wish to extend my sympathy to the families that <BR>
lost their sons and daughters to this rabid Leviathan called Yahya <BR>
Jammeh and his band of rabid ministers, bureaucrats, and military <BR>
thugs. =A0This is a time for action by all of us (both inside and <BR>
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us who are in the Diaspora should support them financially. =A0This <BR>
government should be stopped dead at its tracks or else we will <BR>
continue to have massacres such as these. =A0Those of us who are in the <=
BR>
US should write and call our Congressmen and Sanators to halt any <BR>
relations with this monster. =A0We should organize protest marches in <BR=
>
cities in the US, Europe, Africa, and all countries we reside. =A0We <BR>=
should also contact the Congressional Black Caucus members who were <BR>
trying to form alliances with this killing machine, The Bill Gates <BR>
Foundation, and all entities interested in The Gambia, to stop all <BR>
contacts until we get rid of this rabid dog. =A0Folks in Europe and <BR>
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apparatus. =A0These kids were killed by Yahya Jammeh, his ministers, <BR>=
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assist him in this Nazi style operation. =A0We have to make a choice. =A0=
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and shiftless, or we all perish fighting for what we believe. =A0<BR>
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>
times have this government short changed the adults? =A0Many times. =A0We=
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never have the guts to challenge the monster. =A0Where were the adults <B=
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when the kids were gunned down??? =A0We adults should learn a chapter <BR=
>
from these young martyrs.<BR>
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nation. =A0The choice is ours. =A0We either stand or watch this man feed =
<BR>
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Sigga, apparently this is 'no news' to this idiots. Look at The independent
Newspaper for instance. Today's topics in their paper goes as follows:
*Government urged to fix ferries
*Gambia's poverty programme not sustainable Says UNDP report
*UDP militants allege arrest and detention
*independent view ..date the Gambian media
NO MENTION OF THE MASSACRE.
This is for fear of retribution. We have to depend on BBC when these
folks are witnessing everything right in front of them. Makes you wonder,
don't it? So to hell with The Daily Observer. We need to hear the truth.
Sigga Wrote
Am I the only one outraged by the "Daily Observer's"
article on the massacre of the Gambian students
yesterday? If you have not seen it yet, see for
yourself below (As posted by Momodou Camara on G-L)
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AllahuAkbar!AllahuAkbar!AllahuAkbar!AllahuAkbar!
Even after all the first shootings you still have some more killings in the provinces
Unbelievable
This is not the gambia we know
I was so shocked at first I taught it was a late April Fool prank
Again once more My condolences to all the families that lost their children and those wounded.
WHY should people be barred from claiming their children's bodies for burial .This is just adding to the problem.
Let the people bury the dead for God's sake please
Habib Diab Ghanim, Sr
Sigga jagne wrote:
> Am I the only one outraged by the "Daily Observer's"
> article on the massacre of the Gambian students
> yesterday? If you have not seen it yet, see for
> yourself below (As posted by Momodou Camara on G-L)
>
> How dare they? The article suggested that the
> student's were the cause of the escalation of the
> incident, to the point of murder by the paramilitary
> officers. It suggested that the Paramilitary
> personnel, only acted out of fear for their safety and
> out of desperation. Almost as if they only reacted in
> self defense. Is observer hinting that the dead
> students are responsible for their own death? Will
> someone explain to me how trained, armed, killing
> machines like those "Jammeh Assassins" can justify
> their fear of defenseless school children? How can
> they justify their "claimed acts of Self Defense"
> against innocent youths armed with nothing?
>
> I swear as I was reading it, I was almost sure that I
> was reading a report on the incident put out by Jammeh
> and his "Puppet Government." What is going on
> OBSERVER? What happened to the brave front you used to
> present and your usual reporting of injustices by the
> government. Why have you decided to play it save in
> this, the Gambian People's most hour of need? I have
> to say, as a former fan of the newspaper, that am
> greatly disappointed. This is not a time to report
> "Government Friendly Material." It is a time to
> report the truth, a time for you and all other
> vehicles of journalism to use that unrivaled power of
> the press, to make sure the voice of the Gambian
> people are heard world wide. I think that if our
> young can be out in the streets of Gambia facing
> bullets and laying down their lives, we the adults can
> surely be shocked into action. For we have indeed
> failed them. If we had knipped Jammeh's lunatic
> outbursts of crazed dictatorship from the beginning,
> then our young will not have found it necessary to lay
> down their lives in other to achieve justice. As it
> is, we should be ashamed of the fact that we did
> indeed watch on and in the process, let our brothers
> and sisters down. For we should be the protectors of
> our future leaders. Hence, the least we can do now,
> is to make sure that those who died did not die in
> vain. And if anything, I would expect the press to
> lead this call for justice. I definitely did not
> expect the Daily Observer to be the one poking at our
> wounds by almost blaming our dead for their own
> murders. Please tell me that you were monitored or
> forced to write this article against your will. For I
> cannot believe that such a fine mechanism of
> journalism would drop the batton in the midst of the
> race. In the Spirit of true journalism, I invoke you
> to divert this course your newspaper has taken. We
> all know that often, it is the press who help re-write
> modern history. So help us re-write our history.
> Help us take the reigns of our country from these
> murderous, inhumane creatures. In Your Heart You Know
> The Truth, So Let It Be Heard or better yet, in this
> case, Let It Be Read.
>
> I look forward to FOROYAA's version of the events.
>
> Momodou Camara
>
> The Daily Observer Published 04/11/00
>
> 10 DEAD IN STUDENTS DEMO
>
> At least ten people are reported to have died
> following clashes between
> demonstrating students and armed police and soldiers
> yesterday.
>
> Students from schools in Serrekunda, Banjul, Brikama
> and Bakau, went
> out on the
> streets to protest against what they said was the
> 'slow pace' of
> justice in the
> prosecution of the Brikama fire officers who were
> alleged to have
> caused the
> death of student Ebrima Barry, and an unidentified
> uniformed officer
> alleged to
> have raped the 13-year-old Brikama-ba school girl.
>
> Among the dead in yesterday's clashes was Red cross
> volunteer, Omar
> Barrow, who
> is also the editor of Sud FM Radio, Banjul.Last week,
> students under
> the aegis
> of Gambia Students Union (Gamsu) sent messages to
> schools in the
> Greater Banjul
> Area informing of the strike. Messages on posters were
> also pinned up
> in
> schools and along streets in Serrekunda.
>
> Alerted about the strike, the department of state for
> the Interior
> Sunday
> issued a press release warning students against
> staging a strike and
> stressed
> that no attempt to disrupt the peace will be allowed.
>
> Sources at Interior said the executive members of
> Gamsu were invited to
> a
> meeting where they were briefed on government's
> efforts to speedily
> prosecute
> the alleged errant officers.
>
> However, at about 8am Monday, students carrying white
> banners with
> slogans,
> "Justice for Ebrima Barry", "We rather die than
> injustice", "Respect
> the future
> leaders", "Redeploy Brikama fire officers" and
> chanting, "We are hot,
> very,
> very hot!", "We want freedom and justice!", began
> gathering at GTTI
> where they
> were to begin the supposedly "peaceful" demonstration.
>
> A contingent of paramilitary officers arrived at the
> scene and
> cautioned the
> students to call off the strike. They refused to
> comply. A short while
> later,
> armed forces chief of staff, Babucarr Jatta, and army
> commander, Lt Col
> Momodou
> Badjie, arrived and urged the students to remain calm.
>
> The students began throwing stones when the
> paramilitary officers
> barred their
> way. The officers reacted by firing shots into the
> air. There was
> pandemonium
> as some of the students ran amok while others did mock
> battle with the
> armed
> officers.
>
> The paramilitary officers regrouped at the mobile
> traffic unit as the
> students
> in disparate groups advanced towards the Westfield
> junction, setting up
> road
> blocks and setting vehicle tyres on fire.
>
> At the Westfield junction, Col Jatta and Interior
> secretary, Ousman
> Badjie,
> tried to calm the students without success.
>
> The students vandalised the Westfield Gamtel office,
> burning the
> building and
> smashing to smithreens the computers and furniture.
>
> They continued on the stoning spree along Kairaba
> Avenue breaking shop
> glasses
> and setting ablaze vehicles. The students were joined
> by street boys
> and shops
> and stalls were looted.
>
> The Gamtel Serrekunda Exchange, Gambia Television
> offices and the
> adjoining
> Serrekunda Post Office were attacked. The post office
> was vandalised
> without
> restraint as windows were smashed, post boxes opened
> and parcels
> looted. Gamtel
> coin phone booths were not spared as well as the Daily
> Observer
> offices.
>
> At about 9.18am the Churchill's Town Fire and
> Ambulance Services
> compound was
> attacked and two fire machines, one bearing the number
> plate, G3A 4214
> were
> burnt.
>
> The Bundung police station was burnt as well as part
> of the Serrekunda
> police station where inmates were freed.Kotu police
> and fire station
> were attacked. Sources in Brikama said the fire
> engines were attacked and
> the pol
> ice station gutted to the ground. Armed personnel were
> said to have
> been redeployed in the town.
>
> The mobile traffic headquarters was also attacked,
> windscreens of
> vehicles smashed, including one police siren car and
> three motorbikes.The
> students jeered at the deputy inspector general of
> police and Baba Jobe
> when they
> tried to calm them. The students seized DIG Badjie's
> cap but returned
> it to him later.
>
> The president of Gamsu, Omar Joof, and some of his
> executive members
> had to flee on board a pick-up vehicle in a hail of
> stones after he tried
> to address the students.
>
> Some of the students seized police shields, helmets
> and uniforms,
> wearing them.Our reporter, Ben Gomez, said he saw a
> student pick up a gun
> dropped by a fleeing paramilitary officer and wanted
> to open fire but
> there was n
> o cartridge.
>
> The paramilitary officers were said to have been
> barricaded in a
> building where they ran for safety for about 20
> minutes as thick smoke from
> burning tyres oozed on them.The officers then opened
> fire and according
> to our r
> eporter, three students wearing black and white
> uniforms fell down and
> were motionless.
>
> At the Serrekunda Post Office, Col Jatta, who was
> making frantic
> efforts to douse the flames of violence was accosted
> by the students who
> escorted him on foot along Kairaba Avenue to the
> paramilitary base in
> Kanifing wher
> e he was rescued. The students were forced to retreat
> under rounds of
> gunfire lasting 20 minutes.
>
> By last evening, Red Cross officials said at least 10
> people have died
> and many injured including a three year-old-boy. Most
> of the injured
> were admitted at the RVH intensive care unit.
>
> Armed soldiers were patrolling the streets
> yesterday.The violence,
> damage to property and loss of life have been roundly
> condemned by many
> people who appealed to the security forces to ensure
> that Monday's encore
> is not r
> epeated.
>
> Omar Barrow Killed
>
> Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and the editor at
> Sud FM radio
> station, Banjul, was shot to death during the student
> demonstration
> yesterday.
>
> In a press release issued last evening, Gambia Red
> Cross Society
> (GRCS), explained: "Mr Omar Barrow died at the Royal
> Victoria Hospital in
> Banjul after all efforts to save his life. Omar
> Barrow was shot within
> the premis
> es of GRCS whilst rendering humanitarian services
> during the student
> demonstration of Monday, April 10, 2000. At the time
> of the gunshot, Mr
> Omar
> Barrow was wearing a clearly marked protective Red
> Cross emblem, that
> is, a Red
> Cross bib and helmet, which is in line with the
> international code of
> conduct
> in relief operations and in conformity with the Geneva
> Conventions.
>
> Mr Omar Barrow is a member of the GRCS emergency
> response team and the
> resource
> development committee. Mr Barrow, a very active and
> dedicated Red Cross
> volunteer, died in the line of duty.
>
> The entire membership of the Gambia Red Cross Society
> will observe a
> week of
> mourning for the late Omar Barrow, effective April 10,
> 2000, all in
> ceremonial
> uniforms or Red Cross T-shirts."
>
> The Red Cross said it extends condolences to the
> family and friends of
> Omar
> Barrow.The late Omar Barrow is survived by a wife and
> a seven-month-old
> baby
> girl.
>
> Region 1, 2 schools closed
> Following yesterday's bloody clashes involving
> students and armed
> police and
> soldiers, Office of the President has ordered the
> immediate closure of
> all
> schools and tertiary institutions in Banjul, Kanifing
> municipal area
> and
> Western Division.
>
> A press release to the effect, issued yesterday
> afternoon read:"This
> morning
> some students in regions 1 and 2, under the leadership
> and guidance of
> the
> Gambia Student's Union, went into rampage causing
> obstructions to
> traffic and
> disrupting school mock exams that were in progress.
>
> It is further known that certain students forced their
> way into some
> schools
> and dragged their colleagues to join them in this
> unwarranted and
> unruly
> behaviour.
>
> Number of casualties and the level of damage to
> property are currently
> under
> investigation.Government has therefore decided that
> all schools and
> tertiary
> institutions in regions 1 and 2 be closed with
> immediate effect, until
> further
> notice.
>
> All parents are hereby advised to keep their children
> at home and to
> await
> further instructions from the department of state for
> Education.The
> security
> services will be on full alert and patrol to ensure
> the safety of lives
> and
> property.
>
> The general public and all visitors to The Gambia are
> assured that the
> government will not compromise the security and
> stability of the
> country under
> any circumstances. The situation is completely under
> control and all
> are
> advised to go about their normal business as usual.
>
> Everyone is urged to fully cooperate with the security
> services and to
> report
> any criminal act and banditry to the nearest police station."
>
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Alpha,
Your poem sums up what a lot of us are struggling to find words to express. I
hope that the victims' families and friends would gain some consolation from
the knowledge that they are not alone in their grief and despair,and that we
all yearn for justice come out of this senseless tragedy.
I pray for peace in our beloved country.
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I would to like to associate myself with the disgust being expressed by a
majority on this list. To the families that loss their loved ones, may Allah
ease your pain.
It will be interesting to see how our state owned TV will carry this
tragic story. During the PPP regime it would be safe to say Tombong Saidy
will be among the students leading the match in a student orchestrated
demonstration. I am waiting to see Tombong's reaction to
this massacre, and how this story will be told on TV after all he is
the one managing the TV station.
Sal Barry
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>
>Sigga, apparently this is 'no news' to this idiots. Look at The independent
>Newspaper for instance. Today's topics in their paper goes as follows:
>
>*Government urged to fix ferries
>
>*Gambia's poverty programme not sustainable Says UNDP report
>
>*UDP militants allege arrest and detention
>
>*independent view ..date the Gambian media
>
>NO MENTION OF THE MASSACRE.
>
>This is for fear of retribution. We have to depend on BBC when these
>folks are witnessing everything right in front of them. Makes you wonder,
>don't it? So to hell with The Daily Observer. We need to hear the truth.
>
>
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>Sigga Wrote
>
>Am I the only one outraged by the "Daily Observer's"
>article on the massacre of the Gambian students
>yesterday? If you have not seen it yet, see for
>yourself below (As posted by Momodou Camara on G-L)
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I guess you are right. they are indeed idiotic. What
a shame! But we shall forge on without them. And
together we will make sure the world hears our
stories.
--- Mr Makaveli <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Sigga, apparently this is 'no news' to this idiots.
> Look at The independent
> Newspaper for instance. Today's topics in their
> paper goes as follows:
>
> *Government urged to fix ferries
>
> *Gambia's poverty programme not sustainable Says
> UNDP report
>
> *UDP militants allege arrest and detention
>
> *independent view ..date the Gambian media
>
> NO MENTION OF THE MASSACRE.
>
> This is for fear of retribution. We have to depend
> on BBC when these
> folks are witnessing everything right in front of
> them. Makes you wonder,
> don't it? So to hell with The Daily Observer. We
> need to hear the truth.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sigga Wrote
>
> Am I the only one outraged by the "Daily Observer's"
> article on the massacre of the Gambian students
> yesterday? If you have not seen it yet, see for
> yourself below (As posted by Momodou Camara on G-L)
>
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Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I would like to add that for those of you questioning why the students
rioted
> and those making excuses for the stupid brutes who are directly
responsible
> for the killings, there is only so much that the human spirit can take
before
> unrest happens. We have seen it time and time again in history. These
> students were smart enough to realize that Ebrima Barry's death was a
> manifestation of a much larger problem that the country was facing,
> incompetence, indifference and just a state of affairs that had spiraled
out
> of control due to the barbaric rule of a mad semi-illiterate despot.
>
> But I assure you that they did not die in vain. All the school kids that
> died yesterday, including the three year old boy that also got shot down,
are
> martyrs who died fighting for basic human rights and decency in our
country.
> Let us never forget them.
>
> The time has come for a collective action. Let us take action quickly and
> put all these plans that have been suggested into motion.
>
Yus,
Hector Peterson was martyred to the cause of freedom in South Africa. There
is monument with an engraving on it of a man carrying a dead child and is
taken from a famous photograph found on posters honouring the ANC children's
movement of the 1976 uprising. Hector was the first victim of that massacre
of innocent school children in 1976 that was a turning point in the struggle
against apartheid.
May the blood shed by these young heroes of ours fertilise and nourish the
consciences of the Gambian masses to rise up sooner or later, to topple the
gang of terrorists that have taken hostage of our birthright.
As the significance of the events of the past two days down on me, I am
overwhelmed with guilt!- and shame!, having shirked our duties towards the
people, and here are school children doing what we should have been doing
long ago.
We have all been jolted into a sudden political consciousness that is bound
to arouse a conscience that shall not allows the murder of these gallant
sons and daughters of Africa pass in vain.
Let us all come out to make sure that April 10th, the day on which the
student movement snatched the torch and flag from the dormant working class
and progressive intellectual, to point to the only way forward: "Get Rid of
Jammeh or Gambia Shall Perish!!!", is treated with respect and remembered
accordingly as a rallying point for all patriotic Gambians against Jammeh
and what he stands for as long as he refuses to let our people go.
All those Gambians and friends of the Gambia who live in Norway who wish to
organise a protest or deliver a petition to the Norwegian government
requesting a stern condemnation of the brutal killing of school children may
contact me at the following email address: [log in to unmask]
Whatever the outcome of these killings may be, we must vow that if Jammeh
does not go now, he does so during the next elections. Senegal has done it,
we can do it!
Let's forget our differences and do this together for the respect of
ourselves and the sake of our people.
Regards.
Kabir.
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Subject: Re: Massacre Action Plan
Dear Karamba,
This is indeed a great idea and I urge every list member to put our anger
into action. These students laid down their lives to fight the injustices
played by the stooges of the regime.Please let me know what the procedures
following this proposal. I was not surprised that the Daily Observer did a
biased reporting by blaming the students for what has happened.May their
souls rest in peace, AMIN.
Mori Kebba Jammeh
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From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <[log in to unmask]>
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> Hi Karamba!
> I agree with your suggestion and your choice of
> people if it is o.k. with them. I am getting more outraged by the minute
> especially after having just read Ebrima Ceesay's update in which he said
> that more students have been killed today.
> Yankuba Njie has suggested that he can host the petition. I think we
> should go ahead and draft the text of the petition for approval. Thanks.
>
> Buharry.
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> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 7:07 PM
> Subject: Massacre Action Plan
>
>
> > I thought I would bounce around an action plan for list members to
> consider
> > in light of the tragedy we are all trying to deal with. Since we all
agree
> > something meaningful has to be done relatively quickly, I suggest we
> > immediately name a G-L crisis coordinator to be our point man in doing
the
> > following:
> > 1- Be a repository for an emergency fund drive aimed at collecting
money
> .
> > We can all send contributions immediately to this coordinator.
> > 2-The said coordinator would then be authorized by us list members to
> hire
> > lawyers in Gambia pronto to first establish the names and identities of
> all
> > the victims. Our coordinator and the lawyers can then formerly approach
> the
> > victims families to offer them representation. This would enable our
team
> of
> > lawyers to meticulously investigate the entire events surrounding the
> > massacre by interviewing survivors and talking to witnesses. While the
> > government is busy rationalizing the killings and crafting a cover-up,
we
> too
> > can have our people reconstructing the crime. Once the investigative
phase
> is
> > over our lawyers can submit their findings to us and the world. If we
> don't
> > initiate our own enquiry, these brave students who paid the ultimate
price
> > would not have the honor, dignity and justice we owe them. None of us
have
> > any faith in Yahya Jammehs judiciary nor should we even consider
awaiting
> > their socalled enquiry.
> > If list members agree and we proceed today, by the seven day (sarah) I
> > anticipate we would have put together some money to even help in the
Sarah
> .
> > Our coordinator would be asked to donate to each of the families by the
> > weekend. We can have our lawyers announce by Monday that they have been
> > retained by us to handle this matter. They would immediately begin work
by
> > seeking the release of students still held . I understand the government
> is
> > trying to arrange a meeting with parents in a cynical attempt to pacify
> the
> > very obvious anger they know has engulfed the people. With our lawyers
> > announcing what amounts to probono representation, the parents can even
> > condition any meeting with the government to the presence of counsel to
> > shield them from the kinds of wicked manipulation this desperate gov't
> would
> > try.
> > Please list members let us begin rightaway. I would like to suggest
Saffie
> > Ceesay of Silver Spring , Maryland for the USA and Alpha Robinson for
> > Europe. If the suggestion is approved I would send mine this evening.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Karamba
> >
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Please subscribe Nema Jawara to the list. Her E-mail address is
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I definitely agree with Swareh. Let Mr. Sey learn
that "as you make your bed, so must you lie in it."
He has decided to affiliate himself with the murderous
jackals of the Jammeh regime, hence let him be man
enough to stomach the accompanying criticism. I also
say that he should not be un-subscribed. He is
representing the Gambian people in this country, and
hence should listen to our complaints whether voiced
on Gambia-L or else where. Why is it that bullies and
murderers always run, when its time to give them a
taste of their own medicine. He is lucky that all
he's received from us so far, are complaints.
--- [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Please do not afford ambassador Sey, the privilege
> of running for the tall
> grass by granting his wish to be unsubscribed. If
> only Mr. Sey's
> sensibilities are offended by the discourse on this
> forum, then I submit we
> have committed no actionable wrong.
> Mr. Sey, of his own volition serves this regime and
> should be possessed of
> sufficient intestinal fortitude to withstand
> criticism of it's latest outrage.
>
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" I would like to comment on GRTS' coverage of the situation yesterday,
while parents are sitting at home worried about their children who the
army and paramilitary have refused to let them see or talk to - our
"beloved" TV station was showing music videos and stupid
documentaries!!!!. Where were the reporters and cameramen who should have
been doing their jobs even if they had to do so with an armed convoy. The
report by Fatou Dibba was so biased and one-sided I am surprised she
didn't come out at point blank and accuse the students of starting the
whole violence.
How comne GRTS cameras didn't film the violence at Brikama, or show the
whole entire nation detailed shots of the aftermath at hospitals, police
stations, army barracks, paramilitary headquaters etc, instead we saw
brief pictures during the 8pm news and that was it - then they started
playing music and showing documentaries like nothing was wrong - Is that
responsible journalism?.
How come there wasn't atleast panel discussions about what happened or
interviews with citizens about the day's events or even readings from the
Koran or Bible to reflect the sombre mood that everyone was in - I believe
showing music clips was blatant disregard and irresponsible of the
managers, producers and reporters at GRTS.
The children should have smashed the eqipment at your stationa atleast
that would have given you the excuse not to show us the nonsense you
showed yesterday."
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:04:26 -0700
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Alpha, you have indeed touched the very soul of this
issue and brought forth our pain as only music and
poetry can. As I read the poem I could not control my
tears. It definitely summed up everything that I
could not put into words. Thank you for it.
--- Alpha Robinson <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> This poem is dedicated to the parents, especially
> the mothers, relatives
> and friends of the victims of the massacre. I am
> aware that nothing can
> replace their beloved ones who are now gone, but as
> I search my mind for
> answers, these thoughts keep coming up and I thought
> I should write them
> down for you. If these demonstrations had taken
> place during my school
> days, I might have been one of the victims. So I
> have been thinking of
> how my family would have felt and how I would have
> liked them to feel.
> My heart goes out to you all.
>
> Cry not Mama
>
> Trying to make sense
> Out of the senseless
> Turning around in circles
> Sleepless and restless
> Trying to feel your pain
>
> Mothers and fathers of the matyres
> Young lives taken away
> From earth to earth
> Living in our hearts
> Forever Forever and Forever
>
> Mothers we mourn by your side
> You have carried that baby for eight months
> The ninth month demanding your breath
> The joy you felt after the birth pains
> Hoping and dreaming
> That your baby will one day be someone
>
> You gave that baby solid food and love
> Toiling under the sun
> Nothing you would not do
> To give that child a future
>
> Fathers we mourn by your side
> You work this earth with bare feet
> You deny yourself pleasures
> To give that child a future
> How anxious you were
> Waiting to hear from the maternity ward
> Or was it from the home
> News about your baby
>
> You two took that child to school
> With high expectations
> To acquire knowledge
> For a better future
>
> Then came the gunman
> The neighbour’s child he was
> No stranger to you
> He calls you mother and father
> Yet he turned that gun on your children
> And took them away from you
> Forever Forever and Forever
>
> But cry not Mama
> That child is in eternal peace
>
> How can I tell you
> How can I make you understand
> That your pain is not in vain
> That your pain is mine
>
> Some give their lives for others
> In their own way
> And live forever
>
> Look at me Mama
> I am your child
> For what your child died for
> Will live in me forever
> So they all live in me Mama
> All those courageous children
> And I am not alone Mama
> We are all your children
>
> As you dry your tears
> Gripped by grief
> Your legs feeling numb and heavy
> Trying to make sense out of the senseless
> Seek consolation in us
> We who will carry your child in us
> Until we take our last breath
>
> No they did not die in vain!
> For what they died for
> Cannot be killed Mama
> Justice must come
> Freedom must come
> A new Gambia will be born
> It’s only a matter of time
>
>
> By Alpha Robinson
>
>
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Karamba,
I applaud your suggestion, and second the nominations you have made.I am
willing to contribute, just let me know where to send it.
Jabou Joh
Please list members let us begin rightaway. I would like to suggest Saffie
Ceesay of Silver Spring , Maryland for the USA and Alpha Robinson for
Europe. If the suggestion is approved I would send mine this evening.
Thanks
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To All Members of the Gambia L,
I want to take this moment to apologize for my last
three postings. I mistakenly forwarded these mails
to the Gambia L instead of the individuals that they
were intended for. This is a very sad time and I offer
my apologies to anyone that I might have offended in
the process. As Gambians this unfortunate tragedy
affects all of us, I sincerely offer my condolences to
the bereaved families.
Thank you.
Tida
--- Tida Marenah <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> ousman,
> "ela hajo topotoo"
> hi this is tida,just messing with you.
> say hi to musukebba,if you are the wrong ousman pls
> forgive me,I believe you are ousman at MD.
> tida
> --- Ousman Bojang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >
>
> > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:14:46 EDT
> > Subject: Re: Dr.Katim Touray i am bowing and
> begging
> > you to unsubscribe me
> > forthwith s...
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > kabir, Saul, Yus and a lot of others who had seen
> > Essa Sey trying to divert
> > this unfortunate killings to an attitude issue, I
> am
> > glad that he have come
> > to realize that fighting on this forum is not our
> > intentions. It is very
> > unfortunate that at times some people become so
> > emotional and forget that we
> > are all human beings before any affiliations. I am
> > sure if Mr. Essa was shot
> > at the least two demonstrations he attended as a
> > student, he would not have
> > had this opportunity to represent such a leader.
> > On the hand I understand Essa's frustrations he
> > directly addressed to me. The
> > guy is guilty by association. And I am sure he
> knows
> > that I do not hate him.
> > That reverse psychology Mr. Sey is trying to play
> > here would not work. I am
> > not surprised that he is begging to be
> unsubscribed
> > 24hrs. after writing that
> > he will stand to all those who will be here to
> write
> > the truth against this
> > government.
> > Anyway, let us all focus on the issue at hand and
> > come up with some kind of
> > strategy to make our feelings known. If it means
> to
> > picket the Embassies and
> > to seriously work towards side lining Jammeh the
> > killer and his government in
> > the International world. There is a lot we could
> do
> > together and just as Essa
> > is begging to be unsubscribed, Jammeh will beg to
> be
> > forgiven in the courts
> > soon.
> >
> >
> > Ousman Bojang.
> >
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Well people,
My computer had crashed last night, and perhaps it had sensed the state I was
in.
Yaya Jammeh and his cohorts have spilled Gambian blood before, and they have
found that they can get away with it every time, so they do it again and
again. It's a desensitization process folks, first kill one, then a few
rumoured to be in mass graves, then plot a fake coup and kill some more, and
now, shoot to kill our children as they demonstrate against the injustice
that has become a daily staple in The Gambia.It is intended to put "the fear
of God" into the people by setting a few nasty examples, and a tool for
holding on to their positions for dear life. What some people would not do
just to have a so called position whose true role they neither understand nor
exercise as it should be exercised.
I also see that Mr Essa Bokar Sey has already started "operation disaster
relief" AKA " the endless explanations that will never add up". That job is
usually reserved for someone else well known to this list, but perhaps they
will come behind Mr Sey with another excuse designed to plug up the holes
that will be shot in his version. We see this process also all the time.
Infact, these guys have refined it into an art form.
I have already heard the disgusting excuse of the demonstration getting out
of hand, and students destroying property etc, but I guess those who ordered
them shot in cold blood forgot that if one is perceived to be breaking the
law, then you arrest them, and let them have their day in court, not shoot to
kill.However, with this regime, we have come to realize that anything is
possible, anyone they percieve as a threat to the continuance of their blood
thirsty quest of "staying in power no matter what" is eliminated in some
makeshift plot, even students.
The first and biggest question that kept coming back to me most of last night
was the question of who ordered the shooting, although it stands to reason
that it probably came from the top. However, if it is true that Isatou Njie
Saidy passed on this order, then what a horror and what a shame, that an
official who tells the World that they represent our people and their
welfare, that she is an advocate for women, a woman who has mothered
children, and a human being who should exercise decency, even if it means
walking away from her job, has relayed such an atrocity on the Gambian
people.If this is true, then Mrs VP, the blood of those students are dripping
on your fingertips.I never thought I would live to see the day that such
atrocities can be directed at Gambians by Gambians.
Enough is Enough!. I wholeheartedly support the suggestion by Karamba to
collect some funds and retain council for these parents and students. Even
one murdered student could not get justice, and these people will most likely
be bulldozed and their case put into the archives to join others who will
never see justice under this regime. If this is not a wake up call to all of
us, then I do not know what else is.
Jabou Joh
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thanks yus,this is what we need to do. We need to start taking ACTION
now.There is no time to procrastinate.
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>Mr Gassama, I would like to piggy back on your post to add a few additional
>news tidbits that the BBC's Network Africa has reported. As Ebrima Ceesay
>confirmed earlier, the unrest has now spread to the provinces. There have
>been reports of students going on the rampage in Janjanbureh and Farafenni.
>In Janjanbureh, especially, government property has again been destroyed.
>
>On the casualty figures, the BBC' s reporter in Banjul, Ebrima Sillah, said
>that he visited the mortuary in Banjul and was told by at least 12
>different
>parents that they had lost their loved ones. One particularly moving
>interview with a Sierra Leonean immigrant who lost his son almost drove me
>to
>tears.
>
>Mr. Sillah, further said that the Gambian public is confused about the
>spate
>of events. Not because the students rioted, but about why the security
>forces
>would shoot innocent children? Meanwhile, all parents in the Kombos have
>been cautioned to keep their kids at home.
>
>I would like to add that for those of you questioning why the students
>rioted
>and those making excuses for the stupid brutes who are directly responsible
>for the killings, there is only so much that the human spirit can take
>before
>unrest happens. We have seen it time and time again in history. These
>students were smart enough to realize that Ebrima Barry's death was a
>manifestation of a much larger problem that the country was facing,
>incompetence, indifference and just a state of affairs that had spiraled
>out
>of control due to the barbaric rule of a mad semi-illiterate despot.
>
>But I assure you that they did not die in vain. All the school kids that
>died yesterday, including the three year old boy that also got shot down,
>are
>martyrs who died fighting for basic human rights and decency in our
>country.
>Let us never forget them.
>
>The time has come for a collective action. Let us take action quickly and
>put all these plans that have been suggested into motion.
>
>Yus
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Joe,
We've had our disagreement, but your sentiments here speak for me perfectly!
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I definitely agree with these plans of actions. It
will also be good if we can obtain some medical
supplies, money, clothes or any form of relief for the
injured and also to set up some form of victim's
relieve fund. Let me know what the final plan is. I
am ready to act.
--- "Mori K. Jammeh" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Karamba,
> This is indeed a great idea and I urge every list
> member to put our anger
> into action. These students laid down their lives to
> fight the injustices
> played by the stooges of the regime.Please let me
> know what the procedures
> following this proposal. I was not surprised that
> the Daily Observer did a
> biased reporting by blaming the students for what
> has happened.May their
> souls rest in peace, AMIN.
>
> Mori Kebba Jammeh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Massacre Action Plan
>
>
> > Hi Karamba!
> > I agree with your
> suggestion and your choice of
> > people if it is o.k. with them. I am getting more
> outraged by the minute
> > especially after having just read Ebrima Ceesay's
> update in which he said
> > that more students have been killed today.
> > Yankuba Njie has suggested that he can host
> the petition. I think we
> > should go ahead and draft the text of the petition
> for approval. Thanks.
> >
> > Buharry.
> > ----- Original
> > Message
>
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> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 7:07 PM
> > Subject: Massacre Action Plan
> >
> >
> > > I thought I would bounce around an action plan
> for list members to
> > consider
> > > in light of the tragedy we are all trying to
> deal with. Since we all
> agree
> > > something meaningful has to be done relatively
> quickly, I suggest we
> > > immediately name a G-L crisis coordinator to be
> our point man in doing
> the
> > > following:
> > > 1- Be a repository for an emergency fund drive
> aimed at collecting
> money
> > .
> > > We can all send contributions immediately to
> this coordinator.
> > > 2-The said coordinator would then be authorized
> by us list members to
> > hire
> > > lawyers in Gambia pronto to first establish the
> names and identities of
> > all
> > > the victims. Our coordinator and the lawyers can
> then formerly approach
> > the
> > > victims families to offer them representation.
> This would enable our
> team
> > of
> > > lawyers to meticulously investigate the entire
> events surrounding the
> > > massacre by interviewing survivors and talking
> to witnesses. While the
> > > government is busy rationalizing the killings
> and crafting a cover-up,
> we
> > too
> > > can have our people reconstructing the crime.
> Once the investigative
> phase
> > is
> > > over our lawyers can submit their findings to us
> and the world. If we
> > don't
> > > initiate our own enquiry, these brave students
> who paid the ultimate
> price
> > > would not have the honor, dignity and justice we
> owe them. None of us
> have
> > > any faith in Yahya Jammehs judiciary nor should
> we even consider
> awaiting
> > > their socalled enquiry.
> > > If list members agree and we proceed today, by
> the seven day (sarah) I
> > > anticipate we would have put together some money
> to even help in the
> Sarah
> > .
> > > Our coordinator would be asked to donate to each
> of the families by the
> > > weekend. We can have our lawyers announce by
> Monday that they have been
> > > retained by us to handle this matter. They would
> immediately begin work
> by
> > > seeking the release of students still held . I
> understand the government
> > is
> > > trying to arrange a meeting with parents in a
> cynical attempt to pacify
> > the
> > > very obvious anger they know has engulfed the
> people. With our lawyers
> > > announcing what amounts to probono
> representation, the parents can even
> > > condition any meeting with the government to
> the presence of counsel to
> > > shield them from the kinds of wicked
> manipulation this desperate gov't
> > would
> > > try.
> > > Please list members let us begin rightaway. I
> would like to suggest
> Saffie
> > > Ceesay of Silver Spring , Maryland for the USA
> and Alpha Robinson for
> > > Europe. If the suggestion is approved I would
> send mine this evening.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Karamba
> > >
> >
> >
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:36:14 -0700
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--- Sigga jagne <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Am I the only one outraged by the "Daily Observer's"
> article on the massacre of the Gambian students
> yesterday? If you have not seen it yet, see for
> yourself below (As posted by Momodou Camara on G-L)
>
> How dare they? The article suggested that the
> student's were the cause of the escalation of the
> incident, to the point of murder by the paramilitary
> officers. It suggested that the Paramilitary
> personnel, only acted out of fear for their safety
> and
> out of desperation. Almost as if they only reacted
> in
> self defense. Is observer hinting that the dead
> students are responsible for their own death? Will
> someone explain to me how trained, armed, killing
> machines like those "Jammeh Assassins" can justify
> their fear of defenseless school children? How can
> they justify their "claimed acts of Self Defense"
> against innocent youths armed with nothing?
>
> I swear as I was reading it, I was almost sure that
> I
> was reading a report on the incident put out by
> Jammeh
> and his "Puppet Government." What is going on
> OBSERVER? What happened to the brave front you used
> to
> present and your usual reporting of injustices by
> the
> government. Why have you decided to play it save in
> this, the Gambian People's most hour of need? I
> have
> to say, as a former fan of the newspaper, that am
> greatly disappointed. This is not a time to report
> "Government Friendly Material." It is a time to
> report the truth, a time for you and all other
> vehicles of journalism to use that unrivaled power
> of
> the press, to make sure the voice of the Gambian
> people are heard world wide. I think that if our
> young can be out in the streets of Gambia facing
> bullets and laying down their lives, we the adults
> can
> surely be shocked into action. For we have indeed
> failed them. If we had knipped Jammeh's lunatic
> outbursts of crazed dictatorship from the beginning,
> then our young will not have found it necessary to
> lay
> down their lives in other to achieve justice. As it
> is, we should be ashamed of the fact that we did
> indeed watch on and in the process, let our brothers
> and sisters down. For we should be the protectors
> of
> our future leaders. Hence, the least we can do now,
> is to make sure that those who died did not die in
> vain. And if anything, I would expect the press to
> lead this call for justice. I definitely did not
> expect the Daily Observer to be the one poking at
> our
> wounds by almost blaming our dead for their own
> murders. Please tell me that you were monitored or
> forced to write this article against your will. For
> I
> cannot believe that such a fine mechanism of
> journalism would drop the batton in the midst of the
> race. In the Spirit of true journalism, I invoke
> you
> to divert this course your newspaper has taken. We
> all know that often, it is the press who help
> re-write
> modern history. So help us re-write our history.
> Help us take the reigns of our country from these
> murderous, inhumane creatures. In Your Heart You
> Know
> The Truth, So Let It Be Heard or better yet, in this
> case, Let It Be Read.
>
>
> I look forward to FOROYAA's version of the events.
>
> Momodou Camara
>
> The Daily Observer Published 04/11/00
>
>
> 10 DEAD IN STUDENTS DEMO
>
> At least ten people are reported to have died
> following clashes between
> demonstrating students and armed police and soldiers
> yesterday.
>
> Students from schools in Serrekunda, Banjul, Brikama
> and Bakau, went
> out on the
> streets to protest against what they said was the
> 'slow pace' of
> justice in the
> prosecution of the Brikama fire officers who were
> alleged to have
> caused the
> death of student Ebrima Barry, and an unidentified
> uniformed officer
> alleged to
> have raped the 13-year-old Brikama-ba school girl.
>
> Among the dead in yesterday's clashes was Red cross
> volunteer, Omar
> Barrow, who
> is also the editor of Sud FM Radio, Banjul.Last
> week,
> students under
> the aegis
> of Gambia Students Union (Gamsu) sent messages to
> schools in the
> Greater Banjul
> Area informing of the strike. Messages on posters
> were
> also pinned up
> in
> schools and along streets in Serrekunda.
>
> Alerted about the strike, the department of state
> for
> the Interior
> Sunday
> issued a press release warning students against
> staging a strike and
> stressed
> that no attempt to disrupt the peace will be
> allowed.
>
> Sources at Interior said the executive members of
> Gamsu were invited to
> a
> meeting where they were briefed on government's
> efforts to speedily
> prosecute
> the alleged errant officers.
>
> However, at about 8am Monday, students carrying
> white
> banners with
> slogans,
> "Justice for Ebrima Barry", "We rather die than
> injustice", "Respect
> the future
> leaders", "Redeploy Brikama fire officers" and
> chanting, "We are hot,
> very,
> very hot!", "We want freedom and justice!", began
> gathering at GTTI
> where they
> were to begin the supposedly "peaceful"
> demonstration.
>
> A contingent of paramilitary officers arrived at the
> scene and
> cautioned the
> students to call off the strike. They refused to
> comply. A short while
> later,
> armed forces chief of staff, Babucarr Jatta, and
> army
> commander, Lt Col
> Momodou
> Badjie, arrived and urged the students to remain
> calm.
>
> The students began throwing stones when the
> paramilitary officers
> barred their
> way. The officers reacted by firing shots into the
> air. There was
> pandemonium
> as some of the students ran amok while others did
> mock
> battle with the
> armed
> officers.
>
> The paramilitary officers regrouped at the mobile
> traffic unit as the
> students
> in disparate groups advanced towards the Westfield
> junction, setting up
> road
> blocks and setting vehicle tyres on fire.
>
> At the Westfield junction, Col Jatta and Interior
> secretary, Ousman
> Badjie,
> tried to calm the students without success.
>
> The students vandalised the Westfield Gamtel office,
> burning the
> building and
> smashing to smithreens the computers and furniture.
>
> They continued on the stoning spree along Kairaba
>
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Karamba,
I'm all for this. Let me know what's up!
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Prince,
Thanks for speaking for me! This Essa person must be sick or something.
Saul.
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>country"
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>Mr Essa B. Sey will go down in my book as the most undiplomatic
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We can only thank you for your concern Ginny. How
funny, at a time when some sons of Gambia are shooting
bullets at young Gambians, non Gambians like you
extend their hands to help. But I guess both good and
bad people can be found in all nationalities. But
stay on the net, we are indeed putting together a plan
of action in which everyone's help will be needed.
Also, keep bringing your ideas in. We need all the
help we can get.
--- Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hello, everyone. Like many of you, I am writing to
> the list to express my
> sadness, outrageous, and my sincerest condolences to
> the families of the
> slain students. I am really not quite sure what
> else to say. I've thought
> about this from the time I started seeing the
> messages on the list, until I
> finally went to sleep last night, and this whole
> situation was the first
> thing I thought about when I woke up this morning.
> I guess the only thing I
> can ask is what can those of us who are non-Gambians
> do? Usually, I don't
> comment on political issues affecting The Gambia, as
> I am not a Gambia, have
> only been there twice, and thus, I don't feel that I
> am thus qualified to
> make any assertions about Gambian politics.
> However, this whole situation
> is extremely unfortunate, and it deeply saddens me.
> I feel like I should
> help in whatever way I can, but I am at a loss as to
> what I should do.
> Anyway, I am hoping that something can be put
> together to insure that
> justice is done, and also, something should be done
> to affect a change in
> the government come the next elections.
> Oh, yes, here is another thought that I had. I
> was thinking this
> morning that we, since we have the Internet and
> access to information, are
> in a position to know what is going on. However,
> what of, say, the rural
> Gambian, how can they be made aware of what their
> current government is
> doing, and thus be hopefully persuaded to vote the
> current regime out of
> office?
> Just some thoughts...
> Ginny
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All,
In addition to all the wonderful suggestions made, why don't we coordinate a
UNIVERSAL DEMONSTRATION against this barbaric regime? We pick a DATE in the
next three/four weeks, select a LOCATION, and organize. All Gambians in the
US could come down to DC, and we'll head for the embassy to register our
disgust, and demands for the immediate resignation of this criminal govt.
Gambians in the UK will do the same thing in London, and those in the other
parts of the world will act likewise ON THE SAME DAY to achieve maximum
impact. We have no problems flying cross country for the 4th of July, or ALD
parties. What better cause to pay air tickets for, or to call in sick?
PLEASE LET'S NOT LET OUR YOUNGER BROTHERS, SISTERS AND SONS DIE IN VAIN! WE
CAN PULL THIS OFF. I KNOW IT!
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Sang
You are right and I hope we all will exercise patience and use our pen
instead of the gun because violence does not pay at all.
Are you still coming up next week/
see you
Best regards
habib
CAROLANN DURDA wrote:
> Habib, this is a tragedy, I've just fired off a letter to my
> congressman/woman Stephanie Tubbs Jones who is a member of the Black
> Caucus. In the letter I ough her to take steps along with the state
> department to condemn this cowardly acts but I also exhort her not to
> impose sanctions, It will only hurt our people.
> Daddy Sang
>
> Habib Ghanim, Sr wrote:
> >
> > May Allah have mercy on the souls of the victims
> > I join Buharry in condemning this unnecessary act by some solders who
> > may or may not have been obeying orders. There was no need for the
> > shootings at all . Demonstrations must be allowed for whatever reason.
> >
> > These kids did not have guns (as far as we know 0 and this act was
> > really senseless
> > Subhanallah and AstahfurAllah
> >
> > MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA wrote:
> >
> > > Hi! I join all who have condemned this most disturbing and brutal
> > > incident in our dear homeland. Those responsible for these brutal
> > > acts must be severely dealt with. This day is indeed a very sad day
> > > for The Gambia. May the souls of those who were killed rest in
> > > peace. May the Almighty have mercy on them and give their families
> > > the strength to deal with the senseless carnage that has deprived
> > > them of their loved ones. This killing trend must end. The armed
> > > forces have to stop playing cowboys and bandits with the stability
> > > of our dear country. We are not living in the Wild West. Our country
> > > is that small country called The Gambia in case they forgot. Once
> > > again, I totally condemn the brutality visited upon these young
> > > people in the strongest of terms.
> > > Thanks.
> > > Buharry.
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I agree this is a great fitna just like the one endured by the prophet
Mohammed (pbuh) and Hassan and Hussien .
May Allah help us all including the solders and victims
We must remember the past to appreciate the future. This is now history.
habib
Momodou Mbye Jabang wrote:
> Assalaamu alaikum Inalillahi wa inna ilayhi raaji'uun. La hawla wa la
> quwwata illa billah. It is indeed one of the darkest periods in our
> young nations history. May Allah have mercy on loved ones who got
> killed during these events. This is pure fitnah. May Allah quell the
> fire of fitnah. During this period and the forthcoming Yauma Ashura
> (Tamharet), we should increase du'aa. We should increase our night
> prayers especially. It is recommended to fast on the 9th and 10th of
> Muharram (Friday and Saturday). May Allah bring peace and tranquility
> to The Gambia.Allahumma salli wasallim alaa Nabiyyina Muhammad.
> Wasalaam.
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I agree this is a great fitna just like the one endured by the prophet
Mohammed (pbuh) and Hassan and Hussien .
<br>May Allah help us all including the solders and victims
<br>We must remember the past to appreciate the future. This is now history.
<br>habib
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Assalaamu alaikum Inalillahi
wa inna ilayhi raaji'uun. La hawla wa la quwwata illa billah. It is indeed
one of the darkest periods in our young nations history. May Allah have
mercy on loved ones who got killed during these events. This is pure fitnah.
May Allah quell the fire of fitnah. During this period and the forthcoming
Yauma Ashura (Tamharet), we should increase du'aa. We should increase our
night prayers especially. It is recommended to fast on the 9th and 10th
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Someone offered to set up an email petition that can be signed by all. If we
can have the email addresse of all these organixations, then we can copy this
petition to all of them. We can also cc the Gambian embassies as suggested by
Latjor.We know that it will not amount to anything really, but just so that
it is seen for the record that we did register our condemnation of this
coawrdly act with them. If anyone has those email addresses, as well as that
of other organizations they can think of, please forward them to the list.
We must also take up the sugestion by Dr Saine to write those letters.
Jabou Joh
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<< A lot of people have suggested us e-mailing the UN etc. Does anyone have
the relevant E-mail addresses ? If so could they broadcast it so that we
can all take action.
I join the rest of the L in expressing my sorrow and extending my
condolences to all the grieving families who have lost their loved ones. >>
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Tombong,
What's going on in The Gambia? Can you shed some light on these ongoing
alleged crimes? Ebrima Barry been killed by the law enforcement officers, and
recently, the alleged killings of some students and civilians by soldiers.
I'm concerned with these troubling behavior happening home.
EB(Ebrima Jarjue).
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Gambia-l:
I 'm sure I would be expelled if I share the adjectives I have reserved for Jammeh and his fellow wild animals. I hope the kids have not died in vain. Their memory should serve as further inspiration for us to explore avenues for effecting real change in The Gambia.
Amadou Scattred Janneh
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I wish to join all Gambians in extending my heart felt condolenses to all
the families who lost their loved one's in this tragic incident. As a
parent I cannot imagine losing a child, let alone in this manner. I
cannot recall this ever happening in the Gambia. May their souls rest in
peace.
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Sigga,
the Observer long ceased being a credible paper after it was bought by the businessman who was very cozy with Jammeh and
his government. Some had speculated that infact Jammeh was the actual buyer of the paper and is using the businessman as
a front. True or not, that was enough to repel me and shun the paper, I rarely read it nor the news put out by Gambia TV
as both have become propaganda tools for Jammeh.
My tolerance for Jammeh and his goons has always measured between zero and non-existent. This tragedy will be a wakeup
call to all and hopefully will mark the beginning of the end of his fiefdom.
Samba
Sigga jagne wrote:
> Am I the only one outraged by the "Daily Observer's"
> article on the massacre of the Gambian students
> yesterday? If you have not seen it yet, see for
> yourself below (As posted by Momodou Camara on G-L)
>
> How dare they? The article suggested that the
> student's were the cause of the escalation of the
> incident, to the point of murder by the paramilitary
> officers. It suggested that the Paramilitary
> personnel, only acted out of fear for their safety and
> out of desperation. Almost as if they only reacted in
> self defense. Is observer hinting that the dead
> students are responsible for their own death? Will
> someone explain to me how trained, armed, killing
> machines like those "Jammeh Assassins" can justify
> their fear of defenseless school children? How can
> they justify their "claimed acts of Self Defense"
> against innocent youths armed with nothing?
>
> I swear as I was reading it, I was almost sure that I
> was reading a report on the incident put out by Jammeh
> and his "Puppet Government." What is going on
> OBSERVER? What happened to the brave front you used to
> present and your usual reporting of injustices by the
> government. Why have you decided to play it save in
> this, the Gambian People's most hour of need? I have
> to say, as a former fan of the newspaper, that am
> greatly disappointed. This is not a time to report
> "Government Friendly Material." It is a time to
> report the truth, a time for you and all other
> vehicles of journalism to use that unrivaled power of
> the press, to make sure the voice of the Gambian
> people are heard world wide. I think that if our
> young can be out in the streets of Gambia facing
> bullets and laying down their lives, we the adults can
> surely be shocked into action. For we have indeed
> failed them. If we had knipped Jammeh's lunatic
> outbursts of crazed dictatorship from the beginning,
> then our young will not have found it necessary to lay
> down their lives in other to achieve justice. As it
> is, we should be ashamed of the fact that we did
> indeed watch on and in the process, let our brothers
> and sisters down. For we should be the protectors of
> our future leaders. Hence, the least we can do now,
> is to make sure that those who died did not die in
> vain. And if anything, I would expect the press to
> lead this call for justice. I definitely did not
> expect the Daily Observer to be the one poking at our
> wounds by almost blaming our dead for their own
> murders. Please tell me that you were monitored or
> forced to write this article against your will. For I
> cannot believe that such a fine mechanism of
> journalism would drop the batton in the midst of the
> race. In the Spirit of true journalism, I invoke you
> to divert this course your newspaper has taken. We
> all know that often, it is the press who help re-write
> modern history. So help us re-write our history.
> Help us take the reigns of our country from these
> murderous, inhumane creatures. In Your Heart You Know
> The Truth, So Let It Be Heard or better yet, in this
> case, Let It Be Read.
>
> I look forward to FOROYAA's version of the events.
>
> Momodou Camara
>
> The Daily Observer Published 04/11/00
>
> 10 DEAD IN STUDENTS DEMO
>
> At least ten people are reported to have died
> following clashes between
> demonstrating students and armed police and soldiers
> yesterday.
>
> Students from schools in Serrekunda, Banjul, Brikama
> and Bakau, went
> out on the
> streets to protest against what they said was the
> 'slow pace' of
> justice in the
> prosecution of the Brikama fire officers who were
> alleged to have
> caused the
> death of student Ebrima Barry, and an unidentified
> uniformed officer
> alleged to
> have raped the 13-year-old Brikama-ba school girl.
>
> Among the dead in yesterday's clashes was Red cross
> volunteer, Omar
> Barrow, who
> is also the editor of Sud FM Radio, Banjul.Last week,
> students under
> the aegis
> of Gambia Students Union (Gamsu) sent messages to
> schools in the
> Greater Banjul
> Area informing of the strike. Messages on posters were
> also pinned up
> in
> schools and along streets in Serrekunda.
>
> Alerted about the strike, the department of state for
> the Interior
> Sunday
> issued a press release warning students against
> staging a strike and
> stressed
> that no attempt to disrupt the peace will be allowed.
>
> Sources at Interior said the executive members of
> Gamsu were invited to
> a
> meeting where they were briefed on government's
> efforts to speedily
> prosecute
> the alleged errant officers.
>
> However, at about 8am Monday, students carrying white
> banners with
> slogans,
> "Justice for Ebrima Barry", "We rather die than
> injustice", "Respect
> the future
> leaders", "Redeploy Brikama fire officers" and
> chanting, "We are hot,
> very,
> very hot!", "We want freedom and justice!", began
> gathering at GTTI
> where they
> were to begin the supposedly "peaceful" demonstration.
>
> A contingent of paramilitary officers arrived at the
> scene and
> cautioned the
> students to call off the strike. They refused to
> comply. A short while
> later,
> armed forces chief of staff, Babucarr Jatta, and army
> commander, Lt Col
> Momodou
> Badjie, arrived and urged the students to remain calm.
>
> The students began throwing stones when the
> paramilitary officers
> barred their
> way. The officers reacted by firing shots into the
> air. There was
> pandemonium
> as some of the students ran amok while others did mock
> battle with the
> armed
> officers.
>
> The paramilitary officers regrouped at the mobile
> traffic unit as the
> students
> in disparate groups advanced towards the Westfield
> junction, setting up
> road
> blocks and setting vehicle tyres on fire.
>
> At the Westfield junction, Col Jatta and Interior
> secretary, Ousman
> Badjie,
> tried to calm the students without success.
>
> The students vandalised the Westfield Gamtel office,
> burning the
> building and
> smashing to smithreens the computers and furniture.
>
> They continued on the stoning spree along Kairaba
> Avenue breaking shop
> glasses
> and setting ablaze vehicles. The students were joined
> by street boys
> and shops
> and stalls were looted.
>
> The Gamtel Serrekunda Exchange, Gambia Television
> offices and the
> adjoining
> Serrekunda Post Office were attacked. The post office
> was vandalised
> without
> restraint as windows were smashed, post boxes opened
> and parcels
> looted. Gamtel
> coin phone booths were not spared as well as the Daily
> Observer
> offices.
>
> At about 9.18am the Churchill's Town Fire and
> Ambulance Services
> compound was
> attacked and two fire machines, one bearing the number
> plate, G3A 4214
> were
> burnt.
>
> The Bundung police station was burnt as well as part
> of the Serrekunda
> police station where inmates were freed.Kotu police
> and fire station
> were attacked. Sources in Brikama said the fire
> engines were attacked and
> the pol
> ice station gutted to the ground. Armed personnel were
> said to have
> been redeployed in the town.
>
> The mobile traffic headquarters was also attacked,
> windscreens of
> vehicles smashed, including one police siren car and
> three motorbikes.The
> students jeered at the deputy inspector general of
> police and Baba Jobe
> when they
> tried to calm them. The students seized DIG Badjie's
> cap but returned
> it to him later.
>
> The president of Gamsu, Omar Joof, and some of his
> executive members
> had to flee on board a pick-up vehicle in a hail of
> stones after he tried
> to address the students.
>
> Some of the students seized police shields, helmets
> and uniforms,
> wearing them.Our reporter, Ben Gomez, said he saw a
> student pick up a gun
> dropped by a fleeing paramilitary officer and wanted
> to open fire but
> there was n
> o cartridge.
>
> The paramilitary officers were said to have been
> barricaded in a
> building where they ran for safety for about 20
> minutes as thick smoke from
> burning tyres oozed on them.The officers then opened
> fire and according
> to our r
> eporter, three students wearing black and white
> uniforms fell down and
> were motionless.
>
> At the Serrekunda Post Office, Col Jatta, who was
> making frantic
> efforts to douse the flames of violence was accosted
> by the students who
> escorted him on foot along Kairaba Avenue to the
> paramilitary base in
> Kanifing wher
> e he was rescued. The students were forced to retreat
> under rounds of
> gunfire lasting 20 minutes.
>
> By last evening, Red Cross officials said at least 10
> people have died
> and many injured including a three year-old-boy. Most
> of the injured
> were admitted at the RVH intensive care unit.
>
> Armed soldiers were patrolling the streets
> yesterday.The violence,
> damage to property and loss of life have been roundly
> condemned by many
> people who appealed to the security forces to ensure
> that Monday's encore
> is not r
> epeated.
>
> Omar Barrow Killed
>
> Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and the editor at
> Sud FM radio
> station, Banjul, was shot to death during the student
> demonstration
> yesterday.
>
> In a press release issued last evening, Gambia Red
> Cross Society
> (GRCS), explained: "Mr Omar Barrow died at the Royal
> Victoria Hospital in
> Banjul after all efforts to save his life. Omar
> Barrow was shot within
> the premis
> es of GRCS whilst rendering humanitarian services
> during the student
> demonstration of Monday, April 10, 2000. At the time
> of the gunshot, Mr
> Omar
> Barrow was wearing a clearly marked protective Red
> Cross emblem, that
> is, a Red
> Cross bib and helmet, which is in line with the
> international code of
> conduct
> in relief operations and in conformity with the Geneva
> Conventions.
>
> Mr Omar Barrow is a member of the GRCS emergency
> response team and the
> resource
> development committee. Mr Barrow, a very active and
> dedicated Red Cross
> volunteer, died in the line of duty.
>
> The entire membership of the Gambia Red Cross Society
> will observe a
> week of
> mourning for the late Omar Barrow, effective April 10,
> 2000, all in
> ceremonial
> uniforms or Red Cross T-shirts."
>
> The Red Cross said it extends condolences to the
> family and friends of
> Omar
> Barrow.The late Omar Barrow is survived by a wife and
> a seven-month-old
> baby
> girl.
>
> Region 1, 2 schools closed
> Following yesterday's bloody clashes involving
> students and armed
> police and
> soldiers, Office of the President has ordered the
> immediate closure of
> all
> schools and tertiary institutions in Banjul, Kanifing
> municipal area
> and
> Western Division.
>
> A press release to the effect, issued yesterday
> afternoon read:"This
> morning
> some students in regions 1 and 2, under the leadership
> and guidance of
> the
> Gambia Student's Union, went into rampage causing
> obstructions to
> traffic and
> disrupting school mock exams that were in progress.
>
> It is further known that certain students forced their
> way into some
> schools
> and dragged their colleagues to join them in this
> unwarranted and
> unruly
> behaviour.
>
> Number of casualties and the level of damage to
> property are currently
> under
> investigation.Government has therefore decided that
> all schools and
> tertiary
> institutions in regions 1 and 2 be closed with
> immediate effect, until
> further
> notice.
>
> All parents are hereby advised to keep their children
> at home and to
> await
> further instructions from the department of state for
> Education.The
> security
> services will be on full alert and patrol to ensure
> the safety of lives
> and
> property.
>
> The general public and all visitors to The Gambia are
> assured that the
> government will not compromise the security and
> stability of the
> country under
> any circumstances. The situation is completely under
> control and all
> are
> advised to go about their normal business as usual.
>
> Everyone is urged to fully cooperate with the security
> services and to
> report
> any criminal act and banditry to the nearest police station."
>
> =====
> "NO ONE CAN MAKE YOU FEEL INFERIOR WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION"
>
> ALSO
>
> "NOTHING IS UNACHIEVABLE, THE ONLY QUESTION IS, WHETHER ONE IS WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO ACHIEVE WHAT IS DESIRED"
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_709000/709845.stm
Protests have been taking place in several parts of the Gambia against the
deaths of 12 people on Monday during clashes between police and students.
<<...>>
It's unbelievable that my son died in such a manner ... running away from
the atrocities and bullets in Sierra Leone only to die by the bullet in the
Gambia <<...>>
Sierra Leonean refugee parent James Carroll
"It has so far been established that 12 people died and 28 were admitted to
the Royal Victoria Hospital, out of which 15 are students and 13
non-students," a statement from President Yahya Jammeh's office said.
The government statement also blamed some non-students for the violence.
"There is no doubt that the crisis was incited by the Gambia Students Union
(Gamsu) and aggravated by some bad elements and bandits who took advantage
of the situation, disguising themselves as students and encouraging the
crowd of so-called demonstrators to the damage," the statement said.
Uneasy calm
In the capital Banjul on Tuesday, there was an uneasy calm as soldiers in
pick-up vehicles patrolled the streets to maintain order.
Many worried and grieving parents and relatives gathered around the city's
mortuary for news about their missing or dead children.
<<...>>
President Jammeh is away in Cuba, attending the G77 summit
One man who lost a son was a Sierra Leonean refugee, James Carroll.
"We managed to avoid all the bullets during the fighting in Sierra Leone
only for my son to be killed by a bullet here in the Gambia," he lamented.
In the provinces, away from Banjul and nearby Serekunda, student violence
continued as many angry youths reportedly went on the rampage, burning
government vehicles and buildings in anger at Monday's killings.
Violent protests
The deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest against
last month's alleged torture and murder of one of their colleagues by fire
fighters.
The peaceful march in the capital Banjul then degenerated into violence.
Some accounts allege that the students ransacked private property,
vandalised vehicles and government buildings and set fire to police
buildings.
Police are believed to have fired live ammunition on the demonstrators.
Those killed included a Red Cross volunteer, Omar Barrow, who was shot as
protesters sought refuge in the Red Cross compound.
Schools closed down
A large number of arrests have been made and the government has announced
the indefinite closure of all schools and colleges.
Those arrested included about 30 high school students who are alleged to
have burnt down an office of the national telephone company, Gamtel in the
east of the country.
Parents have been told to keep their students at home until further notice,
and the Gambia's security forces were put on maximum alert.
The unrest is taking place in the absence of the President Jammeh, who is
currently in Cuba for the G77 summit.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_708000/708863.stm
The government of Gambia says security forces are on maximum alert following
a day of violent student protests in and around the capital, Banjul, in
which at least six people were killed.
A statement said the situation was calm and the authorities were in complete
control.
The protests began as a march against alleged police mistreatment of
students but suddenly degenerated into violent clashes in the capital,
Banjul, between the security forces and young people.
Red Cross officials in Gambia said volunteer worker, Umar Barrow, was shot
by armed police who had entered the headquarters of the charity.
The officials said Mr Barrow was wearing Red Cross insignia when he was shot
and that they had protested to the authorities about the behaviour of the
security forces.
The circumstances surrounding the other deaths are less clear, but medical
personnel said many people have bullet wounds. At least one police officer
was badly injured.
Rape protest
The student demonstrations began with protests about the alleged rape of a
woman student and the alleged torture of a young man by the security forces.
Students announced plans for the demonstration at the weekend, claiming that
the Gambian Government had not responded adequately to the events.
According to witness reports, students set tyres alight, ransacked
government offices and burned vehicles. A police station, post office and
buildings belonging to state television and the independent electoral
commission were badly damaged.
The authorities have now ordered all schools and colleges to close, and said
that armed soldiers will ensure order on the streets.
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HENRY JAMES:"life is, in fact a battle. Evil is insolent and strong; beauty
enchanting but rare; goodness very apt to be weak; folly very apt to be
defiant; weakedness to carry the day; imbeciles to be in great places, people
of senses in small, and mankind generally unhappy..."
Gambians, especially those living abroad, for too long had sunken into a
state of apathy, anonymity and de-personalization through the
dis-enfranchisement practises bestowed on us by the former [PPP] and current
[AFPRC/APRC] regimes, hence we came to depend on public authority and a state
of civic-sclerosis hounds us whenever we try organizing ourselves for the
common good. Sometimes, it takes dire circumstances or incidence such as the
planned execution/massacre of students and journalist/volunteer, to bring us
together under one voice, as happened in New York last night, where around 60
concerned Gambians and Africans [continental and diasporic] at a moments
notice, filled to capacity the office of UNITED AFRICAN CONGRESS.
Unexpectedly, Gambians and africans came together to voiceout, solace and
plan a reaction to such a babaric and unAfrican deed carried out by the
BUTCHER OF KANILAI and his notorious HOUNDOGS in cohort with NIA in tow.
The plan of action[s] adopted were simple: AGITATE, EDUCATE,ORGANIZE and make
those involved in this Ghastardly deed [by crook or means] pay for their
cowardly acts.We [metro new yorkers] would like to coalesce with any or all
concerned groups affected by yesterdays incidence in Gambia. It's vital that
we coordinate all our efforts, contacts, sponsors, protest and ultimately,
victory in a clear and professional manner as we absolutely need the support
of the international community. Let's bear in mind that there're provacateurs
and NIA infiltrators amongst us, not that we're scared of them , but not to
side-track and or disrupt our plan of action.
A community wide meeting is to be held :
WHEN: SUNDAY, APRIL 16, 2000
WHERE : GAMBIA HOUSE, JEROME AVE, BRONX, NY
TIME : 2.00pm 7.00pm
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:59:00 +0100
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Sigga'
I totally agree with you. Gambians in France should
face him and critise him day and night. He is part of
the problem and all APRC criminals never want to
accept liabilities. They are all Killers and they must
be treated like Killers. What goes to define Hatred
better than his co-butchers did to our loved ones. He
is a disgrace to the people he represent. Gambians in
France please protest and get him out!
A.A.Drammeh.
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> I definitely agree with Swareh. Let Mr. Sey learn
> that "as you make your bed, so must you lie in it."
> He has decided to affiliate himself with the murderous
> jackals of the Jammeh regime, hence let him be man
> enough to stomach the accompanying criticism. I also
> say that he should not be un-subscribed. He is
> representing the Gambian people in this country, and
> hence should listen to our complaints whether voiced
> on Gambia-L or else where. Why is it that bullies and
> murderers always run, when its time to give them a
> taste of their own medicine. He is lucky that all
> he's received from us so far, are complaints.
>
>
>
> --- [log in to unmask] wrote:
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> > of running for the tall
> > grass by granting his wish to be unsubscribed. If
> > only Mr. Sey's
> > sensibilities are offended by the discourse on this
> > forum, then I submit we
> > have committed no actionable wrong.
> > Mr. Sey, of his own volition serves this regime and
> > should be possessed of
> > sufficient intestinal fortitude to withstand
> > criticism of it's latest outrage.
> >
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> > Ambassador Sey's wish to be
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> > request in any forum, gratis.
> >
> > A. Swareh.
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If the information regarding the Vice-President is correct, then shame on to
Isatou-Njie Saddy. She should have resigned rather than obey orders to to
give the order to shoot. May ALLAH help us all.
>From: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: Massacre of Students in the Gambia
>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:49:36 PDT
>
>Gambia-L,
>
>Chidi Odinkalu, the Africa Legal Officer for the London-based Human Rights
>Group, Interights, is submitting a petition/protest note to the
>Commonwealth, in relation to the massacre of students in the Gambia.
>Consequently, he'll be most grateful if you could e-mail him any relevant
>information/observation you may have on the matter.
>
>This is his e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>
>By the way, I am still working on a more comprehensive story and I hope I
>can post it as soon as possible. But, believe me, it is a very, very
>serious/sad tragedy.
>
>A short while ago, a diplomat in the Gambia told me on the phone, that he
>had been reliably informed by a hospital insider (a medical doctor for that
>matter) that so far 14 people have died as a result of the shootings and
>that several students have in fact "sustained life threatening injuries".
>
>So, Gambia-L, let us take the government figures, in relation to the number
>of people killed, anytime they are released, with a pinch of salt!!!
>
>In fact, the Government, I understand from the diplomat, intends to reduce
>the figure for the number of people killed.
>
>Meanwhile, I understand that students in Bansang, Basse and Essau are still
>on the rampage. Banjul itself is said to be calm, but "tense". Albert
>Market
>is reported to be half empty, with most people staying at home. Roads
>leading to the Police station in Banjul are sealed off. Janjangburay police
>station and the Gamtel there are in flames.
>
>So let us continue praying.
>
>Essa Thomas, I can confirm to you that Mr Jammeh is still in Cuba, but I
>understand that he was consulted before the orders were given to shoot the
>students. I am reliably informed that at an Emergency Cabinet meeting
>yesterday, Vice Prseident Isatou Njie-Saidy declared that she was
>instructed
>by Yahya Jammeh "to open fire". Anyway, as I said earlier, I'll send
>something comprehensive as soon as possible.
>
>
>Ebrima
>
>
>>From: Chidi Odinkalu <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>>CC: Ibrahima Kane <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: Testing
>>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:26:05 +0100
>>
>>Dear Ebrima,
>>
>>Here is my e-mail address. Any information you can give on the Gambia
>>killings please. We need to be able to do a submission to the Commonwealth
>>at least.
>>
>>Chidi
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Saul,
I am in for that, we must hold a demonstration in the london embassy.
I have being trying to gather support from people who are willing to join
us at the Embassy in london.
A.A.Drammeh.
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> All,
>
> In addition to all the wonderful suggestions made, why don't we coordinate
a
> UNIVERSAL DEMONSTRATION against this barbaric regime? We pick a DATE in
the
> next three/four weeks, select a LOCATION, and organize. All Gambians in
the
> US could come down to DC, and we'll head for the embassy to register our
> disgust, and demands for the immediate resignation of this criminal govt.
> Gambians in the UK will do the same thing in London, and those in the
other
> parts of the world will act likewise ON THE SAME DAY to achieve maximum
> impact. We have no problems flying cross country for the 4th of July, or
ALD
> parties. What better cause to pay air tickets for, or to call in sick?
>
> PLEASE LET'S NOT LET OUR YOUNGER BROTHERS, SISTERS AND SONS DIE IN VAIN!
WE
> CAN PULL THIS OFF. I KNOW IT!
>
> Saul.
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Alpha,
Words cannot express the grief in my heart these days.
You have expressed the feeling of the majority of Gambians at home and
abroad. May the souls of those killed rest in perfect and eternal peace.
Pa Ousman
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>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:27:55 +0200
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>This poem is dedicated to the parents, especially the mothers, relatives
>and friends of the victims of the massacre. I am aware that nothing can
>replace their beloved ones who are now gone, but as I search my mind for
>answers, these thoughts keep coming up and I thought I should write them
>down for you. If these demonstrations had taken place during my school
>days, I might have been one of the victims. So I have been thinking of
>how my family would have felt and how I would have liked them to feel.
>My heart goes out to you all.
>
>Cry not Mama
>
>Trying to make sense
>Out of the senseless
>Turning around in circles
>Sleepless and restless
>Trying to feel your pain
>
>Mothers and fathers of the matyres
>Young lives taken away
>From earth to earth
>Living in our hearts
>Forever Forever and Forever
>
>Mothers we mourn by your side
>You have carried that baby for eight months
>The ninth month demanding your breath
>The joy you felt after the birth pains
>Hoping and dreaming
>That your baby will one day be someone
>
>You gave that baby solid food and love
>Toiling under the sun
>Nothing you would not do
>To give that child a future
>
>Fathers we mourn by your side
>You work this earth with bare feet
>You deny yourself pleasures
>To give that child a future
>How anxious you were
>Waiting to hear from the maternity ward
>Or was it from the home
>News about your baby
>
>You two took that child to school
>With high expectations
>To acquire knowledge
>For a better future
>
>Then came the gunman
>The neighbour’s child he was
>No stranger to you
>He calls you mother and father
>Yet he turned that gun on your children
>And took them away from you
>Forever Forever and Forever
>
>But cry not Mama
>That child is in eternal peace
>
>How can I tell you
>How can I make you understand
>That your pain is not in vain
>That your pain is mine
>
>Some give their lives for others
>In their own way
>And live forever
>
>Look at me Mama
>I am your child
>For what your child died for
>Will live in me forever
>So they all live in me Mama
>All those courageous children
>And I am not alone Mama
>We are all your children
>
>As you dry your tears
>Gripped by grief
>Your legs feeling numb and heavy
>Trying to make sense out of the senseless
>Seek consolation in us
>We who will carry your child in us
>Until we take our last breath
>
>No they did not die in vain!
>For what they died for
>Cannot be killed Mama
>Justice must come
>Freedom must come
>A new Gambia will be born
>It’s only a matter of time
>
>
>By Alpha Robinson
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To all L members,
This is an excellent idea. Shall we all ask Abdoulie Saine to draft the
petition and once agreed by all, let Pope do the rest. Your reactions
please. We must make progress quickly before the steam dies down.
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>Subject: E-Mail Petition (Please Read)
>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:06:59 EDT
>
>If we can come up with a single message; a written message condemning and
>protesting this act of brutality and a list of the organizations we want to
>send the protest to, I can create an automated e-mail form that will
>require
>users to only sign their names and e-mail addresses and have the protest
>sent to all these organizations at one time. Let me know what you guys
>think.
>
>Yankuba Njie
>
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L Members,
You may obtain the e-mail addresses of the UN Seretary General and that of
the UN Human Rights Commissioner from the following :
[log in to unmask]
Lets flood the UN with our protests. I also hope former politicians like
Jawara would speak out.
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>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:34:06 -0400
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>A lot of people have suggested us e-mailing the UN etc. Does anyone have
>the relevant E-mail addresses ? If so could they broadcast it so that we
>can all take action.
>
>I join the rest of the L in expressing my sorrow and extending my
>condolences to all the grieving families who have lost their loved ones.
>
>How can a government authorise the murder of its own citizens ?
>Great cowardice was displayed by all those who had it in them to shoot
>unarmed students.
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Karamba,
You can count me in.
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>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:07:55 EDT
>
>I thought I would bounce around an action plan for list members to consider
>in light of the tragedy we are all trying to deal with. Since we all agree
>something meaningful has to be done relatively quickly, I suggest we
>immediately name a G-L crisis coordinator to be our point man in doing the
>following:
> 1- Be a repository for an emergency fund drive aimed at collecting money
>.
>We can all send contributions immediately to this coordinator.
> 2-The said coordinator would then be authorized by us list members to
>hire
>lawyers in Gambia pronto to first establish the names and identities of all
>the victims. Our coordinator and the lawyers can then formerly approach the
>victims families to offer them representation. This would enable our team
>of
>lawyers to meticulously investigate the entire events surrounding the
>massacre by interviewing survivors and talking to witnesses. While the
>government is busy rationalizing the killings and crafting a cover-up, we
>too
>can have our people reconstructing the crime. Once the investigative phase
>is
>over our lawyers can submit their findings to us and the world. If we don't
>initiate our own enquiry, these brave students who paid the ultimate price
>would not have the honor, dignity and justice we owe them. None of us have
>any faith in Yahya Jammehs judiciary nor should we even consider awaiting
>their socalled enquiry.
>If list members agree and we proceed today, by the seven day (sarah) I
>anticipate we would have put together some money to even help in the Sarah
>.
>Our coordinator would be asked to donate to each of the families by the
>weekend. We can have our lawyers announce by Monday that they have been
>retained by us to handle this matter. They would immediately begin work by
>seeking the release of students still held . I understand the government is
>trying to arrange a meeting with parents in a cynical attempt to pacify the
>very obvious anger they know has engulfed the people. With our lawyers
>announcing what amounts to probono representation, the parents can even
>condition any meeting with the government to the presence of counsel to
>shield them from the kinds of wicked manipulation this desperate gov't
>would
>try.
>Please list members let us begin rightaway. I would like to suggest Saffie
>Ceesay of Silver Spring , Maryland for the USA and Alpha Robinson for
>Europe. If the suggestion is approved I would send mine this evening.
>
>Thanks
>Karamba
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Karamba,
You can count on a two hundred dollar ($200) contribution from me. The
military cingolo of Italy (whatever that crap signify) / the moron of
Kanilai must be stopped!!
As koto Abdoulaye is wont to say: No justice, no peace!!! I'm sure he is
busy drafting the email petition.
Regards,
Madiba.
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> >I thought I would bounce around an action plan for list members to consider
> >in light of the tragedy we are all trying to deal with. Since we all agree
> >something meaningful has to be done relatively quickly, I suggest we
> >immediately name a G-L crisis coordinator to be our point man in doing the
> >following:
> > 1- Be a repository for an emergency fund drive aimed at collecting money
> >.
> >We can all send contributions immediately to this coordinator.
> > 2-The said coordinator would then be authorized by us list members to
> >hire
> >lawyers in Gambia pronto to first establish the names and identities of all
> >the victims. Our coordinator and the lawyers can then formerly approach the
> >victims families to offer them representation. This would enable our team
> >of
> >lawyers to meticulously investigate the entire events surrounding the
> >massacre by interviewing survivors and talking to witnesses. While the
> >government is busy rationalizing the killings and crafting a cover-up, we
> >too
> >can have our people reconstructing the crime. Once the investigative phase
> >is
> >over our lawyers can submit their findings to us and the world. If we don't
> >initiate our own enquiry, these brave students who paid the ultimate price
> >would not have the honor, dignity and justice we owe them. None of us have
> >any faith in Yahya Jammehs judiciary nor should we even consider awaiting
> >their socalled enquiry.
> >If list members agree and we proceed today, by the seven day (sarah) I
> >anticipate we would have put together some money to even help in the Sarah
> >.
> >Our coordinator would be asked to donate to each of the families by the
> >weekend. We can have our lawyers announce by Monday that they have been
> >retained by us to handle this matter. They would immediately begin work by
> >seeking the release of students still held . I understand the government is
> >trying to arrange a meeting with parents in a cynical attempt to pacify the
> >very obvious anger they know has engulfed the people. With our lawyers
> >announcing what amounts to probono representation, the parents can even
> >condition any meeting with the government to the presence of counsel to
> >shield them from the kinds of wicked manipulation this desperate gov't
> >would
> >try.
> >Please list members let us begin rightaway. I would like to suggest Saffie
> >Ceesay of Silver Spring , Maryland for the USA and Alpha Robinson for
> >Europe. If the suggestion is approved I would send mine this evening.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Karamba
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Ebrima,
Why do you want to wake up Tombong - a bloody ass licker - from his
slumber? Please save us from his usual gibberish commentaries!!
Regards,
Madiba Saidy.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Tombong,
> What's going on in The Gambia? Can you shed some light on these ongoing
> alleged crimes? Ebrima Barry been killed by the law enforcement officers, and
> recently, the alleged killings of some students and civilians by soldiers.
> I'm concerned with these troubling behavior happening home.
> EB(Ebrima Jarjue).
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I have asked UN Office in Geneva to send the e-mail addresses of Kofi Anna
and Mary Robinson to the L.
>From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: e-mail petitions
>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:15:54 EDT
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>Someone offered to set up an email petition that can be signed by all. If
>we
>can have the email addresse of all these organixations, then we can copy
>this
>petition to all of them. We can also cc the Gambian embassies as suggested
>by
>Latjor.We know that it will not amount to anything really, but just so that
>it is seen for the record that we did register our condemnation of this
>coawrdly act with them. If anyone has those email addresses, as well as
>that
>of other organizations they can think of, please forward them to the list.
>We must also take up the sugestion by Dr Saine to write those letters.
>
>Jabou Joh
>
>In a message dated 4/11/00 11:35:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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><< A lot of people have suggested us e-mailing the UN etc. Does anyone have
> the relevant E-mail addresses ? If so could they broadcast it so that we
> can all take action.
>
> I join the rest of the L in expressing my sorrow and extending my
> condolences to all the grieving families who have lost their loved ones.
> >>
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:06:53 +0200
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From: Momodou Camara <[log in to unmask]>
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On 12 Apr 00, at 0:15, Jabou Joh wrote:
> Someone offered to set up an email petition that can be signed by all. If we
> can have the email addresse of all these organixations, then we can copy this
> petition to all of them. We can also cc the Gambian embassies as suggested by
> Latjor.We know that it will not amount to anything really, but just so that
> it is seen for the record that we did register our condemnation of this
> coawrdly act with them. If anyone has those email addresses, as well as that
> of other organizations they can think of, please forward them to the list.
> We must also take up the sugestion by Dr Saine to write those letters.
>
> Jabou Joh
Dr. Saine,
Here are a few addresses:
European Commission Gambia <[log in to unmask]>
Mr Romano Prodi
President of the Commission
European Commission
200 rue de la Loi/Wetstraat 200
B-1049 Brussels
Belgium
email: [log in to unmask]
Gambia U.N. Mission <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:12:57 GMT
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ATTENTION UN GENEVA
Serious atrocities and violations of human rights have recently taken place
in the Gambia, and Gambians all over the world intend to bring these serious
crimes against humanity to the attention of the UN Secretary General and the
UN Human Rights Commiassioner. I am therefore requesting you to provide to
the Gambia-List, the e-mail addresses of the two International Civil Srvants
concerned, to the following e-mail addresses:
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 04:13:18 EDT
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Subject: Justice.. Justice.. Justice.. Jammeh must go now
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Hello Fellow Leers.
I am late to learn about this brutal form of dictatorship from the
Gambia.
I wholehearted agree with all your postings to the issue. We must do
something now
or watch our people die at the mercy of these barbaric people who govern them.
Life takes precedence over anything. It must be held sacred and
guarded at all
cost. We must remove this government by any means necessary. All these
petitions are
all right, but a dictator like Jammeh pays little to no regards what the
world thinks of him.
I am full with fury at the moment. We must seek justice for the
victims. We must
seek justice for their families, we must seek justice for the students, we
must seek justice for The Gambia.
We must not be silent. We must heed the suggestions that Karamba is
making for
a collective body to fight this evil. We must resist the urge to alienate
this issue like
Hamadi puts it. The victims must not become another porn that Jammeh uses to
silence
people critical to his Government.
this is our Gambia, this is our country, these are our people.
Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must
go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh
must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go.
Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must
go.
Keep pressing on.
Matarr Sajaw.
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:31:13 +0100
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Subject: Re: [gambianmuslims] Fitnah
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Bro. Habib and Momodou,
<BR>Thanks. Let us all continue with our prayers for our beloved country.After
listening to a life phone in programme on Radio 1 FM hosted by George
Christensen i sense that the best solution to the problem to calm the situation
is for government to release the death bodies or announce the names of
those who died and also to announce the names of those held in detention.
It is disturbing for parents who do not know the faith of their children
and this aggravates the situation .MAY ALLAH BRING BACK PEACE AND LOVE
TO THE GAMBIA.
<BR>Chi Jamma.
<BR>Bro. Sheikh Tejan Nyang.
<P>Habib Ghanim, Sr wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> I agree this is a great fitna just like the
one endured by the prophet Mohammed (pbuh) and Hassan and Hussien .
<BR>May Allah help us all including the solders and victims
<BR>We must remember the past to appreciate the future. This is now history.
<BR>habib
<P>Momodou Mbye Jabang wrote:
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Assalaamu alaikum Inalillahi wa inna
ilayhi raaji'uun. La hawla wa la quwwata illa billah. It is indeed one
of the darkest periods in our young nations history. May Allah have mercy
on loved ones who got killed during these events. This is pure fitnah.
May Allah quell the fire of fitnah. During this period and the forthcoming
Yauma Ashura (Tamharet), we should increase du'aa. We should increase our
night prayers especially. It is recommended to fast on the 9th and 10th
of Muharram (Friday and Saturday). May Allah bring peace and tranquility
to The Gambia.<FONT FACE="Times New Roman">Allahumma salli wasallim alaa
Nabiyyina Muhammad. Wasalaam.</FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Times New Roman">Modou Mbye</FONT>
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>ATTENTION UN GENEVA
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>Serious atrocities and violations of human rights have recently taken place
>in the Gambia, and Gambians all over the world intend to bring these
>serious
>crimes against humanity to the attention of the UN Secretary General and
>the
>UN Human Rights Commiassioner. I am therefore requesting you to provide to
>the Gambia-List, the e-mail addresses of the two International Civil
>Srvants
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Matarr,
We share your frustrations. It is indeed frustrating for all of us.
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>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 04:13:18 EDT
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>Hello Fellow Leers.
> I am late to learn about this brutal form of dictatorship from the
>Gambia.
>I wholehearted agree with all your postings to the issue. We must do
>something now
>or watch our people die at the mercy of these barbaric people who govern
>them.
> Life takes precedence over anything. It must be held sacred and
>guarded at all
>cost. We must remove this government by any means necessary. All these
>petitions are
>all right, but a dictator like Jammeh pays little to no regards what the
>world thinks of him.
> I am full with fury at the moment. We must seek justice for the
>victims. We must
>seek justice for their families, we must seek justice for the students, we
>must seek justice for The Gambia.
> We must not be silent. We must heed the suggestions that Karamba is
>making for
>a collective body to fight this evil. We must resist the urge to alienate
>this issue like
>Hamadi puts it. The victims must not become another porn that Jammeh uses
>to
>silence
>people critical to his Government.
> this is our Gambia, this is our country, these are our people.
>Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must
>go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh
>must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go.
>Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must go. Jammeh must
>go.
>
>Keep pressing on.
>Matarr Sajaw.
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Bismillah Walhamdulillah Was Salaatu Was Salaam 'ala Rasulillah
As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu
Adab - 14th Dhul-Hijja 1420 (21 March 2000)
Narrated by Abu Shuraih (Radhiallaho anho):
The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) said, "By Allah, he
does not believe! By Allah, he does not believe! By Allah, he
does not believe!" It was said, "Who is that, O Allah's
Messenger?" He (sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) said, "That
person whose neighbor does not feel safe from his evil."
Bukhari Vol. 8 : No. 45 >>
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11 April 2000
President of the Republic,
State House,
Marina Parade,
BANJUL.
THE STATE OF THE NATION
There is hardly any doubt that events of tremendous significance are
developing. The very survival of the nation is at stake. Consequently, all
Gambians have the national duty not to be mere spectators of events. We have
a duty to be the architects of our own destiny. Needless to say, the
destiny that all just Gambians yearn for is one where the life, liberty,
security and dignity of each Gambian are fully secured.
What happened on Monday, 10 April 2000 is not a mere passing event. It is a
seed of national discord. If it is not uprooted, the road to peaceful
coexistence and peaceful transformation of society in accordance with the
will of the people shall be obliterated.
The events of Monday 10, are therefore not ordinary developments. The whole
future course that this nation is to take hinges on how we conceive the
event and what we do to address the concerns emanating from them.
It was our concern that this matter which developed after Ebrima Barry was
killed will not lead to blood-letting. This is precisely the reason why we
had to address our letter of 9 April to the Secretary of State for The
Interior with the view to prevent the crisis from assuming larger
proportions and thus making the means to resolve them more stupendous. We
have had the opportunity to follow developments very closely. We even gave
outlet for a student to write reports on the developments so that their
views will not be subjected to any distortion. There is no doubt that the
students were most tormented by the killing of Ebrima Barry and the raping
of Binta Manneh.
Needless to say, the fact that action was taken after the students expressed
their determination to see to it that their concerns would be addressed
instilled in them cynicism regarding the seriousness of the authorities in
addressing their concerns.
It was the duty of the State to reclaim its integrity by drawing momentous
lessons from the Brikama demonstration. It was spontaneous. No one agitated
the students. They were driven to a state of deep sorrow by their empathy.
Most students became identified with the suffering that Ebrima Barry went
through. No human being who allows himself or herself to put on another
person's shoes can fail to be moved by a mental picture of a school child
carrying forty to sixty bags of cement, head shaven, cement applied on his
body and some put in his mouth. The more one nurses such thoughts in one's
very being, the more tormented one must become.
Apparently, the swift reaction to maintain contact with the student
leadership and the promises made to address their concerns had delayed a
national catastrophy. For sometime it gave the students consolation that
their action would yield the desired results.
Of course, there was an information lag regarding the arrest of those who
allegedly killed Ebrima Barry. To all those who received the information
that the alleged killers were arrested and detained and that an
identification parade had taken place to facilitate the screening of those
who were on active duty at the Stadium when Binta Manneh was raped by a
person in uniform felt that actions were being taken in the right direction.
The breaking point seems to have started when the students insisted on
holding a demonstration. Apparently, those in charge of security felt that
the identification parade and the arresting of those who have allegedly
killed Ebrima Barry was enough. The announcement over the air that the file
of the alleged killers had been handed over to the Attorney General's
Chambers and that the State will not allow students who still insisted on
demonstrating to threaten the security of the State indicated very clearly
that the authorities had the aim to bar the students from holding a
demonstration.
It is precisely this notion that the demonstration was unjustifiable that
compelled the authorities responsible for security to try to abort it either
through conciliation or coercion.
In our view, what the authorities should have done is to question whether
what the students intended to do was lawful or unlawful. What they needed to
do was to draw lessons from the Brikama demonstration. This would have
enabled them to understand the state of mind of the students; that they were
now at a state when they felt that they could put their liberty on the line
for their rights and for justice.
This was the reality. The authorities who met them at meetings could read
this in their words. Letters to newspapers reflected their thinking. Nothing
was hidden. Even the Department of State for the Interior could read the
determination of the students to exercise their rights which led to the
issuing of the press release over the weekend of 7 to 9 April.
The students did not hide their intentions. No one could say that they were
puppets on anybody's string. Even the student leadership was on fire for
cautioning restrain when the issue of demonstration came to the fore. The
demonstration seemed to have been the zenith of the expression of a passion
which arose as a result of Barry's and Manneh's cases.
This is precisely the reason why we maintain that the fundamental flaw of
the authorities is to fail to allow the students to hold a peaceful
demonstration. Anyone with a slight understanding of the state of mind of
the students would have predicted that any attempt to abort the
demonstration of Monday, 10 April 2000 would lead to undesirable
consequences.
The events of Monday, 10 April 2000 should, therefore, offer great lessons.
We did move with speed when we heard that confrontation had started at the
Gambia Technical Training Institute (GTTI). Eye witnesses called to allege
that the paramilitary forces were armed and that they were opening fire on
the students. We later learnt that they were using blank shots to frighten
the students. Other reports indicated that some students were arrested and
were being maltreated. It was reported that the security forces entered the
GTTI gates to follow the students, went to the classrooms, harassed students
and lecturers and that some of the students had to climb fences in order to
escape.
Apparently, the students had their banners at GTTI. According to some
comments from the authorities, some of the banners even mentioned "Sopi";
that this gave them an impression that the students had intentions other
than to demonstrate for action on Ebrima Barry's killing or the raping of
Binta Manneh.
If the situation is, therefore, examined with honesty one would acknowledge
that there were determined attempts to prevent the students from holding the
demonstration. It was also assumed that if a firm hand was initially
utilised, the students will feel threatened and disperse. It was further
assumed that the utilisation of blank shots would frighten the students and
make them to disperse.
The notion of quelling the demonstration with a firm hand and that the
students could be frightened by using blank shots was a miscalculation. What
happened at GTTI was the spark which lit the prairie fire.
As soon as some students escaped from GTTI, and as soon as the people in the
area heard the blank shots, the information that the paramilitary forces
were openly shooting the students at point blank range and that they were
using gun butts and all the forces at their disposal to suppress the
students, spread with astonishing rapidity. The slogans reverberated
everywhere among the students. "We want freedom; we want justice". It was
incredible. Everywhere that our people went, they could see the forces of
the students gathering.
Between 8.30 and 9.00 in the morning, transports heading towards Banjul were
beginning to move back. This created congestion on the Brikama/Serrekunda
Highway. People started to ask what was going on. The message was that the
paramilitary forces were killing students. Each began to tell his or her
story. Students in transports heading towards school began to alight from
the transports and congregation of students could be found in many spots.
The same situation was taking place at Kairaba Avenue as well as Bakoteh
end. Students were, therefore, surging forth in a wave towards Westfield
Clinic. The whole of Serrekunda started to become a battle field. Those who
were selling in the streets began to remove their goods. Those who were
driving cars began to find quick ways to go and park. As students moved they
ordered all transports to go off the road. Those who refused had their
windscreens broken. Consequently, the whole town was swept off transports.
It was as if a curfew has been declared.
The paramilitary forces, therefore, came face to face with the students who
were armed with rocks which were being thrown like missiles. In order to
keep the paramilitary forces at bay and prevent them from having
reinforcements, the students seized tyres and started heaping them on the
road and then put them on fire. These burning tyres belched thick black
smoke which kept reinforcement away. The paramilitary forces were surrounded
in many places and totally outnumbered. They moved helter-skelter firing
blank shots there to frighten the students and tear gas carnisters to
disperse the students. A running battle started with students dispersing to
avoid tear gas carnisters and returning again to confront the paramilitary.
Some paramilitary forces would be overpowered and would decide to give up
their grounds. The running battle continued as more and more students joined
in. In some areas an uneasy truce remained. In other areas, security forces
were outnumbered.
At a given point, it appeared that a settlement was about to take place when
the GAMSU leadership spoke with the Secretary of State and the Army Chief of
Staff. The student leaders went into a transport and were given loud hailers
to start announcing that a settlement has been reached. Once they left, the
tension built up again.
The fact that the Secretary of State and the Army Chief of Staff, guarded by
less than five soldiers, could walk on foot up to Dippa Kunda without any
incident tends to indicate that there was a possibility of a settlement
through negotiation. Even the skirmish which took place between the students
and the Secretary of State and the Army Chief of Staff between Dippa Kunda
and Latrikunda did not prevent the students from walking with the Army Chief
of Staff after initially throwing some stones which forced them to take
cover. The students and the Army Chief of Staff were able to move from
Latrikunda to Cedar Club on Kairaba Avenue and all the way to Kanifing
School and then into Kanifing South and then come out at the Red Cross
Junction and then headed towards the paramilitary camp.
Throughout this long walk, students were shouting the slogans "We want
freedom; we don't want the paramilitary". The freeing of a student, who was
handcuffed, by the Chief of Staff led the students to start chanting Jatta's
name in unison with their slogans for freedom. However, ten metres before
approaching the base of the paramilitary forces there was firing and two
students fell. Once there was firing people dispersed and Jatta proceeded to
enter the camp. This is what led to the rumour that he was held hostage by
the students.
The fact that the students would accompany the Army Chief of Staff all the
way to the paramilitary camp indicated that there was a desire for some form
of settlement. The anticipation of the students was that the Army Chief of
Staff was going to discuss with the paramilitary force and the students who
were present and strike a settlement. The firing of life ammunition changed
the course.
As the students ran, some tried to get into Gambega but the gates were
closed. Others tried and rushed to take refuge at the Red Cross
Headquarters. Firing continued. Apparently, this is where people like Omar
Barrow, a media practitioner with Sud FM Radio Station who was working as
Red Cross Volunteer, was shot. The whole incident became a very bloody
affair. Pools of blood could be seen where the injured fell.
A student by the name of Ousman Jobarteh, who claimed to be a student of
S.E.P. lay shot in the hand and some other parts of his body close to
Banjul Breweries. Another student lay just close to ICEMAN. Another dead
body was near the Red Cross Headquarters. One Ebrima Dem, Lamin Jallow, Gibi
Njie and John Gomez were shot. Baboucarr Kah, a student of Saint Augustine's
Senior Secondary School displayed wound below the chest. A taxi driver,
Abdoulie Jawara, received gun shots while on the Banjul Highway. A dead body
of a person wearing blue trousers lay near the mobile traffic station. A
student of Banjul Academy with a gun shot in the leg lay close to the dead
body.
The Red Cross Volunteers and others began to move some of the injured to
find sanctuary at the Red Cross Headquarters. On the floor at the Red Cross
Headquarters, one could find many injured persons. Omar Barrow was seen
lying on the floor bleeding. He was reported to have been shot while serving
as a volunteer at the Red Cross.
The news of the deaths inflamed the students all the more. Students went on
the rampage. They started to collect petrol and gas bottles and moved
towards different directions. One could notice that the actions they were
taking were just being dictated by circumstances. For example, some students
wanted to act on a petrol station but listened to wise counsel when others
objected.
Hence, two phases of the confrontation with the security forces proved to be
fatal. The first one was events at the GTTI which gave the other students
who were far away from the scene the impression that their other colleagues
were being shot. The second incident is near the headquarters of the
paramilitary forces when real live bullets were used.
Soon after these two incidents, police station after police station were
reported to be set on fire. At the Bundung Police Station, the living
quarters of the police officers were in flames. The detainees in cells were
released and police station was also burnt. The vehicles that were around,
even those seized by the police for one traffic offence or another were
burnt.
At Serrekunda Police Station, the residence of the police was spared, but
the Station itself went into flames. At Kotu Police Station, the residence
of the police was burnt to ashes. At Serrekunda Fire Station on the Brikama
Highway, vehicles were burnt to ashes and all the windows smashed. All the
transports found at the station were smashed. GAMTEL Westfield Booth was
burnt. GAMTEL Serrekunda Market Booth was also destroyed. GAMTEL Latrikunda
Sabiji Booth was also destroyed. The Serrekunda Post Office was broken into
and mails scattered. The GAMTEL Customer Service Unit at the GRTS Station
was also stoned. The security post at GAMTEL, Kanifing, was also stoned.
NAWEC office at Latrikunda was also destroyed. The Gift Shop close to
Standard Chartered Bank was also broken into and looted. Some other shops
were also looted.
Fire and smoke darkened the skies as tyres put on the main road to stop
traffic continued to burn. Unrest has broken out in the country. It is in
fact spreading irrespective of the assurance given in the press release of
April 10, 2000 from the Office of the President that the situation was
under control.
On the same day, Brikama and Jangjanbureh experienced the same unrest. The
Police Station in Brikama and some quarters were burnt. Transports, stores
and offices were also included. The properties of the Fire Station were
completely damaged.
The destruction has spread to Essau, Jangjanbureh, Brikamaba, Bansang and
even Basse is under threat. A nation wide catastrophy has emerged. Where do
we go from here?
The State may harden its position and utilise the language, intensify the
arrest and detention of students, issue threats and treat the whole issue as
a security issue which has to be handled with an iron hand. This method
would only be to the hardening of hearts.
Those who observed the relationship between the paramilitary and the
students at close range cannot fail to realise that real hatred has built
up. This was manifested in the brutalities which became manifest. The
students see the paramilitary forces as instruments of coercion instead of
forces meant to safeguard their security and freedom. The paramilitary
forces are also beginning to see students as rebels who do not recognise
them as compatriots.
The situation is, therefore, not under control. Hatred has never been the
basis for maintaining peace, security and stability. It is the basis for
yearning for mutual extinction. The security forces have explained how
students stoned them. Students have explained how security forces utilised
batons, boots, gun butts to beat them without mercy.
A complex situation now prevails in the country. Tremendous maturity is
necessary to hold the country together. How events will unfold depends on
the possibilities we create for crisis management. The country belongs to
us, but we do not share opinions on how it is to be governed.
What is a fundamental task is how to maintain peaceful co-existence as each
pursues one's inclination on how the country is to be governed by relying on
the consent of the people; that peaceful co-existence must be based on the
eschewing of democratic values.
A fundamental lesson that we can derive from the momentous events is that
constitutions set the theoretical basis for principles which guarantee
rights and freedoms. Governments set their own limits on the exercise of
those rights and freedoms. The people impose their demands on how far to
expand the democratic space to ensure that the limits set by different
governments, in accordance with the degree of their commitment to democratic
values and the empowerment of the people, are stretched to equate with what
is established as principles.
Where the people consider their demands as inviolable and the government
deems the limits set as inviolable, confrontation and social explosion must
be the order of the day. In order to avert such a social explosion, the
principles set for governance must be those that are reasonably justifiable
in a democratic society. The people must make demands that accord with those
principles and the government must not set limits that are at variance with
those principles that are reasonably justifiable in a democratic society.
There is absolutely no doubt that if the students were allowed to
demonstrate and given a police escort, they would have been able to contain
each other en route to deliver whatever petition they had to the
authorities. It is, therefore, a fundamental lesson that peace and stability
are best guaranteed by openness and tolerance rather than through coercive
and repressive measures.
It goes without saying that the youth movement needs to know the distinction
between the political movement and the civil rights movement. When youths
favour total change of governments, it is their duty to join any political
force they believe would be able to bring the type of change they desire.
However, when a youth organisation is fighting for the expansion of the
democratic space within which they can operate to conserve their rights and
freedoms, they must establish their strategic objectives very clearly so
that they will be able to state their demands concretely and pursue them
collectively without losing sight of their fundamental aims and objectives.
They must always allow their mission to be guided by a clear vision of what
they really want.
Lives have been lost and properties destroyed. Live bullets have been
utilised which connotes war, for only enemies reserve the use of the means
to kill in order to confront each other.
The paramilitary forces, the police and other forces continue to claim that
the students treated them as enemies instead of compatriots. They fail to
realise that the situation is their real enemy. When one is placed in the
midst of students with a baton or a whip, a tear gas carnister and a gun to
suppress them, stones flying like missiles could put one in a life
threatening situation. One may be tempted to use whips, tear gas carnisters
and even kill. The real solution is for such a situation of confrontation
not to be created in the first place by policy makers. No one on earth can
condone the use of live bullets to suppress students without guns.
The fact that the students did not fire any live ammunition is precisely the
reason why no one has heard the death of a security officer. Of course,
everybody expects that stones would cause injuries just as batons cause
injuries. Live bullets, however, cause death. This is why 12 people are now
considered dead.
By 5.00 p.m. on Monday, 10 April, 2000, 77 people had reported one form of
injury or another at the Serrekunda Health Centre. Some were treated and
left to go while many were referred to the Royal Victoria Hospital. At Ward
8 & 3 of the RVH, we met 8 people who were seriously injured. At the
Intensive Care Unit of the RVH, there were about 12 young people. More were
still coming. A young man was there with a bullet in his head. He may have
been among the 12 people who are officially confirmed dead.
State officials should not shield themselves from such gruesome realities.
The conscience of the nation must be kept alive. The day that the conscience
of this nation is dead, the country will be transformed into a jungle and
we, her citizens, into beasts who will feed on each other's carcass. That
day can be near or far. It depends on our individual commitment or lack of
commitment to the values which make us human and democratic.
We must all become outraged with what has happened and make it our
commitment never to allow it to happen again. We must do more than that. We
must begin a process of healing the wounds. We must stop looking for
scapegoats and face the reality squarely. Once disorder starts, many
elements are bound to exploit it. Some who are opposed to a government may
clap for students. Others who want to loot may encourage them to destroy
certain facilities and so on and so forth. The principal reason for
destroying State property is simply transferring anger. When anger rules the
heart, vengeance becomes a way of giving it an outlet.
Many parents are still standing near police stations to find out what had
happened to their children. Many of them are still detained. It is important
to bear in mind that this is not a war situation and no state of emergency
exists. Under normal circumstance, within three hours after their detention,
a person should be given reason for one's detention and should be allowed
access to a legal practitioner. Within 72 hours, one should be taken before
a court or released. Under all circumstances, arbitrary detention is
impermissible. Many of the children detained are students. They need special
treatment.
It is, therefore, absolutely essential to convene a committee of respectable
elders and take them to the places of detention of the students so that they
will be able to confirm that they are neither being tortured or harassed.
They should be spoken to and released with immediacy. The country must not
be allowed to sink into arbitrariness if the government does not want things
to deteriorate. The committee could also seek the expertise that could
quantify all the losses incurred by the police officers and other citizens
and give a report to the State for action to redress the situation.
Furthermore, the names of those who died should be made public. Autopsy
should be carried out to determine the cause of death. Parents have been
going close to the mortuary without gaining access to the bodies. This is
the second day. It is essential for the government to do everything with
speed so that those who are to be buried would be paid the respect due
without delay. It is already heart wrecking to receive news of the death of
a loved one. Such a family should be saved from any bureaucratic obstacles
which lead to more frustrations.
Armed men are still going into some compounds to arrest people. This is
creating a lot of panic in certain areas. It is important for the government
to eliminate this militarization of civil society and ensure that this
crisis is not expanded by antagonising the citizenry. What is required is a
containment of the crisis; not its escalation.
Government should set up a Coroner's Inquest to find out how those who died
met their death and take all necessary actions to ensure that life is not
taken with impunity.
Finally, the radio and the television should be opened up for the expression
of views by the citizens of this country so that through the different
positions expressed our collective awareness would be raised and peaceful
existence based on democratic and human values restored.
We will be making all the moves necessary to ensure that the cause of
justice is not derailed and that Gambians do not nurture the type of
callousness that can make revenge to be the order of the day.
We must not allow our minds to be dispossessed of rationality; our hearts to
be dispossessed of justice and our very being to be dispossessed of
conscience. This is the only way that we can prevent spreading mischief on
the face of the earth.
While anticipating your due regard of the concerns raised,
We remain,
Your sincerely,
......................................
Halifa Sallah
For: The Editorial Board.
CC:
Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice.
Secretary of State for The Interior.
Secretary of State for Education.
Chief of Staff, Armed Forces of The Gambia.
Commander, Gambia National Army.
Director, National Intelligence Agency.
Inspector General of Police.
Secretary, National Security Council.
Gambia Students' Union (GAMSU).
The Press.
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Madiba,
They are a propaganda tool for the regime, and all of them will be sent up
the creek if they actually acted like the reporters that they should be. The
head of GRTS is always the one sent to the list to explain the unexplainable
everytime they commit one of their atrocities, so I expected exactly this.
Perhaps they were trying to pacify the people so they will get their minds
off the dead bodies of their children littering the death houses all over the
country.
Jabou Joh
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" I would like to comment on GRTS' coverage of the situation yesterday,
while parents are sitting at home worried about their children who the
army and paramilitary have refused to let them see or talk to - our
"beloved" TV station was showing music videos and stupid
documentaries!!!!. Where were the reporters and cameramen who should have
been doing their jobs even if they had to do so with an armed convoy. The
report by Fatou Dibba was so biased and one-sided I am surprised she
didn't come out at point blank and accuse the students of starting the
whole violence.
How comne GRTS cameras didn't film the violence at Brikama, or show the
whole entire nation detailed shots of the aftermath at hospitals, police
stations, army barracks, paramilitary headquaters etc, instead we saw
brief pictures during the 8pm news and that was it - then they started
playing music and showing documentaries like nothing was wrong - Is that
responsible journalism?.
How come there wasn't atleast panel discussions about what happened or
interviews with citizens about the day's events or even readings from the
Koran or Bible to reflect the sombre mood that everyone was in - I believe
showing music clips was blatant disregard and irresponsible of the
managers, producers and reporters at GRTS.
The children should have smashed the eqipment at your stationa atleast
that would have given you the excuse not to show us the nonsense you
showed yesterday."
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Having heard from a lot of list members, it is save to say the proposal is
agreed to. Please begin to send in your contributions as soon as you can
because we need to get started right away. Make all checks or money orders
payable to Soffie ceesay and please send it to :
13830 Castle blvd ,
Apt # 204, Silver Spring
Md 20910.
I would volunteer to put daily summaries of what is received as the days
pass. Those wishing to make direct bank transfers can do so by remitting the
money to account number 109 320 4559 with routing number255071981. Please
make sure you alert me either by phone at 301 890 4704 or via email at
[log in to unmask] of any such transfers to enable me to retrieve it and post
the amount at the daily summaries that I would be posting for list members.
Please also inform Gambians you know in your area to help contribute. Each
contributor can request and would be promptly sent any information pertaining
to the entire undertaking. After contributions start coming in, Soffie would
act on what we have agreed to on our behalf and again I would keep you all
abreast of her efforts regularly. We also held an emergency meeting last nite
and Latjor Ndow would keep list members of efforts that follow that meeting.
Please let us make this work by coming through for the students and by
extension our country. If anybody has ideas that can compliment this one,
please share it as we proceed. Every little bit counts.
Thanks
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SV">Amnesty=20
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A=20
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</SPAN>Ghana - <A=20
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terliant.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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SV">Nigeria -=20
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</SPAN>Senegal - <A=20
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href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"><SPAN lang=3DSV=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>European Court of Human Rights - <SPAN=20
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: =
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Commission for Human Rights - </SPAN><SPAN=20
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Economic Commission for Africa - </SPAN><A=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>IMF - <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">European Commission =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Liberty (Oxford) - =
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Prince,
I am presently in Cannes, France with Bora Mboge attending MIP-TV 2000,
television programmes market. I left The Gambia on Saturday and i will be
back on Thursday.
I cannot at this moment give any information other than what you have been
reading.
On my return. i will give some information.
PEACE
TOMBONG
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>Please, give us more information of the happenings of the Students' demo.
>The news is somewhat uncertain.
>
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Culled from GRTS news on Quantum web site
regards,
Modou.
"The office of the President has blamed the Gambia Students Union, GAMSU=
, =
for what it calls the unauthorised demonstration on Monday which had led =
to
the destruction of several public and private installations in the greate=
r
Banjul area. A press release from the office of the President says GAMSU =
and
anybody linked to this demonstration will bear full responsibility for th=
e
carnage, and would have to answer for it. The office said 12 people have =
died
in the chaos and 28 people were admitted at the RVH. It said 15 of the
casualties were students, but the release did not specify how many studen=
ts
are among the dead. The release adds that the demonstration was unwarrant=
ed
and unjustified since the suspects in the death of Ebrima Barry, and the =
rape
of a school girl were given the necessary attention by the Justice depart=
ment.
It said the suspects in the case Ebrima Barry are currently under custody=
and
their case has been registered in the courts. The office of the presiden=
t
also assures the general public that justice will take its course, howeve=
r
acknowledging that these suspects have the right to fair trial which must=
be
observed. Government calls on all parents, teachers, guardians, religio=
us
and community leaders as well as all Gambians and non Gambians alike to e=
nsure
that peace calm and tranquility are maintained. The release also blam=
ed
those it described as bad elements and bandits who took part in the Monda=
y =
chaos by disguising themselves as students."
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Gambia - L Managers,
Madiba should be made to withdraw this statement. It is uncalled for and
should not be accepted on this forum.
Peace
Tombong
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>Ebrima,
>
>Why do you want to wake up Tombong - a bloody ass licker - from his
>slumber? Please save us from his usual gibberish commentaries!!
>
>Regards,
>
>Madiba Saidy.
>
>On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 [log in to unmask] wrote:
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> > Tombong,
> > What's going on in The Gambia? Can you shed some light on these ongoing
> > alleged crimes? Ebrima Barry been killed by the law enforcement
>officers, and
> > recently, the alleged killings of some students and civilians by
>soldiers.
> > I'm concerned with these troubling behavior happening home.
> > EB(Ebrima Jarjue).
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thanks saul,you are damn right.we have to march to the white house,capital
hill, and the gambia's embassy.i think the ALD is a good time
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>All,
>
>In addition to all the wonderful suggestions made, why don't we coordinate
>a
>UNIVERSAL DEMONSTRATION against this barbaric regime? We pick a DATE in the
>next three/four weeks, select a LOCATION, and organize. All Gambians in the
>US could come down to DC, and we'll head for the embassy to register our
>disgust, and demands for the immediate resignation of this criminal govt.
>Gambians in the UK will do the same thing in London, and those in the other
>parts of the world will act likewise ON THE SAME DAY to achieve maximum
>impact. We have no problems flying cross country for the 4th of July, or
>ALD
>parties. What better cause to pay air tickets for, or to call in sick?
>
>PLEASE LET'S NOT LET OUR YOUNGER BROTHERS, SISTERS AND SONS DIE IN VAIN! WE
>CAN PULL THIS OFF. I KNOW IT!
>
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As far as ideas go, I think that at this point, everything is covered.
However, if I think of anything I'll let everyone here in the list know.
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> We can only thank you for your concern Ginny. How
> funny, at a time when some sons of Gambia are shooting
> bullets at young Gambians, non Gambians like you
> extend their hands to help. But I guess both good and
> bad people can be found in all nationalities. But
> stay on the net, we are indeed putting together a plan
> of action in which everyone's help will be needed.
> Also, keep bringing your ideas in. We need all the
> help we can get.
> --- Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Hello, everyone. Like many of you, I am writing to
> > the list to express my
> > sadness, outrageous, and my sincerest condolences to
> > the families of the
> > slain students. I am really not quite sure what
> > else to say. I've thought
> > about this from the time I started seeing the
> > messages on the list, until I
> > finally went to sleep last night, and this whole
> > situation was the first
> > thing I thought about when I woke up this morning.
> > I guess the only thing I
> > can ask is what can those of us who are non-Gambians
> > do? Usually, I don't
> > comment on political issues affecting The Gambia, as
> > I am not a Gambia, have
> > only been there twice, and thus, I don't feel that I
> > am thus qualified to
> > make any assertions about Gambian politics.
> > However, this whole situation
> > is extremely unfortunate, and it deeply saddens me.
> > I feel like I should
> > help in whatever way I can, but I am at a loss as to
> > what I should do.
> > Anyway, I am hoping that something can be put
> > together to insure that
> > justice is done, and also, something should be done
> > to affect a change in
> > the government come the next elections.
> > Oh, yes, here is another thought that I had. I
> > was thinking this
> > morning that we, since we have the Internet and
> > access to information, are
> > in a position to know what is going on. However,
> > what of, say, the rural
> > Gambian, how can they be made aware of what their
> > current government is
> > doing, and thus be hopefully persuaded to vote the
> > current regime out of
> > office?
> > Just some thoughts...
> > Ginny
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tombong,he is telling the truth,you are an ass kisser as he said.how many
times did i send you a private e-mail and tell you the same thing?
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>Gambia - L Managers,
>
>Madiba should be made to withdraw this statement. It is uncalled for and
>should not be accepted on this forum.
>
>Peace
>
>Tombong
>
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>>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:49:16 -0700
>>
>>Ebrima,
>>
>>Why do you want to wake up Tombong - a bloody ass licker - from his
>>slumber? Please save us from his usual gibberish commentaries!!
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Madiba Saidy.
>>
>>On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 [log in to unmask] wrote:
>>
>> > Tombong,
>> > What's going on in The Gambia? Can you shed some light on these ongoing
>> > alleged crimes? Ebrima Barry been killed by the law enforcement
>>officers, and
>> > recently, the alleged killings of some students and civilians by
>>soldiers.
>> > I'm concerned with these troubling behavior happening home.
>> > EB(Ebrima Jarjue).
>> >
>> >
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This message is from my brother Rolf Christensen. I think it reflects the
way we are all feeling right now.
Astrid/
My sincerest condolences to the families of the young souls we have lost in
this saddest of national tragedies. We who are in a position to help should
do something to assist the families at this most painful of times.
We must do something to restore the soul of our nation. For too long we
Gambian's abroad and at home, have been silently disapproving of the regime
and its methods. We have watched as they operated with complete
impunity,callous disregard for fundamental human rights, looted the treasury
and embroiled the nation in countless scandals. We have silently watched as
they engaged in what can only be described as barbarism in murdering
opponents under the guise of suppressing coup attempts. Yet through all of
this we have convinced ourselves that as long as the killings and the
brutality remain contained within the ranks of the forces, somehow it did
not and would not affect us and our loved ones and we could conveniently
turn a blind eye to this blithe.
Now that the violence has spilled over to unarmed civilians, we can no
longer afford to be silent. There can be no plausible explanation or
justification for such a heinous act of complete cowardice and wanton
lawlessness on the part of the security forces and their leaders. I for one
have arrived at a point where my conscience will no longer allow me to sit
on the sidelines and do nothing.
I am deeply ashamed to admit to myself that my complacency in allowing my
nation and my heritage to be hijacked by a group of despots may have
contributed to the deaths of innocent school children. Young children, who
had the courage to express what I and countless others have not had the
courage to do, and that is to publicly voice our disapproval of the current
regime and its methods.
As I write this, my sense of anger and frustration is only matched by the
feeling of complete helplessness to effect meaningful change in what is
clearly an intolerable situation. We need a solution and we need it quickly.
What can we do? Where do we go from here? I do not have the answer, but I
want to be a part of the solution. We can no longer afford to ignore what is
going on in the Gambia.
Rolf Christensen
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We need the names, addresses,phone/fax #'s of the current Gambian Ambassador
[Washington] and to the Gambia Mission [New York]. Organize a "phone/fax
Tree" : tie-up their lines with request for answers to the massacre.
AGITATE, EDUCATE AND ORGANIZE.
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saul the number is (202)7851399
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>Ambassador
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>Tree" : tie-up their lines with request for answers to the massacre.
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Mission in New York is 212/949-6640
saul the number is (202)7851399
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I write with a very heavy heart. What happened in the Gambia is a very
sad development. For a while, and even now, most of us are being overwhelmed
with passion, but we have to be mindful that the seeds of destruction and
anarchy, are nurtured in the womb of our individual and collective actions,
both as a society and as a nation. We therefore have to recognize the
capacity we have, both as individuals and as a society, to wrought havoc on
ourselves and others; we therefore need to harness our forces and gear them
towards a direction that creates social justice and national cohesion.
What has happened in the Gambia is very painful; what is evolving in the
Gambia is a serious cause for concern. We need for a moment think about our
country, caught in the throes of this cataclysmic eruption, which if not
handled properly can have far reaching social and economic consequences.
In the wake of this tragedy that blemish our nation, we are challenged to
rise to the occassion in a spirit of nationalism and nation building. This
spirit should transcend the political interest that govern our motivations
and actions. This spirit should guide against everything that would bring
unnecessary deaths and destruction to our nation. We will all raise our
voices and condemn this heinous act.
We will pay homage to our nation; she mourns her image, and the tyranny
and callousness of some of her sons, who soaked her soil with the blood of
her future leaders.
I extend my heartfelt sympathies to the families of the victims in this
unncesaary carnage.
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I join all to express my condolence to the families of the victims of this
tragic event. It is indeed a very sad moment in our history.
Malanding
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The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
Our heartfelt and sincere condolences to all those
who lost their
little ones, and to the family of our young colleague
Omar Barrow.
They all died in the field of honour.
In the events we just lived through and are still
living, the actors
could be categorised into three groups: the good
ones, the bad
ones and the ugly ones. The good ones were the
peaceful
students who were sincerely demonstrating for
government to
address their demand for speedy justice in the two
cases that
they had clearly lamented over and over. And the
security forces
that showed restraint.
The bad ones were the students? and vandals who
engaged in
wanton destruction of properties. This was
unwarranted and has
been condemned by all and sundry.
The ugly gave the orders and the others carried them
out,
causing the unwarranted maiming of innocent school
CHILDREN
with guns fired from, by Gambian standards, their
fathers, uncles,
brothers and cousins. This use of live ammunition has
been
strongly condemned by the public. But how did we get
to that
Order to Fire Live Ammunition? The Shoot to Kill
Order! In fact,
who gave that drastic order?
For us, the way the security services handled the
matter was
wrong, very wrong indeed! Imagine just 5, sometimes
10 security
operatives facing hundreds of children; the result
was obvious -
they were outnumbered and so overpowered by the
students and
had to flee sometimes to avoid the rains of stones
and other
objects.
The government will not tell us that it didn't know
about the
planned demonstration, as it warned against it. If we
were the
ones, with our little knowledge, giving out orders,
we would have
lined up hundreds of security forces and offered a
security
cordon to the students. Should things get out of
hand, as
happens elsewhere, the hundreds officers already at
hand, on
the spot, could deal with the situation USING ONLY
TEAR GAS!
and that would have in the end disperse the students.
The late
Jallow Jallow's associates and other students who
faced the
colonial administration and later the 1st Republic
know what we
are talking about. 10, 16 or even 20 isolated
officers could not
have contained the various groups of students and
vandals.
If this right approach was taken, there wouldn't have
been any
deaths. International conventions and humanitarian
law forbid
security forces entering shelters like the Red Cross
premises, so
why kill Barrow in that premises? What was the use of
all the
resources put to organising seminars on humanitarian
law for our
security forces?
It beats our imagination that government should at
this point in
time attribute the responsibility of what it called
"the carnage" to
the UNARMED GAMSU. Government must be up there and
assume responsibility for any commissions and
omissions
committed by its servants; in other countries,
resignations would
have been tendered by now.
The way forward is to bring to book all those, who
have one way
or the other played a role in this ugly matter by
mishandling the
situation. That is what the rule of law requires.
That is what the
dignity of Gambians demand.
Our hearts bled the whole of Monday evening and
continue to
bleed even now as we visualise, after we were told
the picture at
the morgue of the bodies laid there, with their
little faces covered,
their school socks and shoes on.
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<b>The Good, The Bad And The Ugly</b>
<p>
Our heartfelt and sincere condolences to all those who lost their
<br>
little ones, and to the family of our young colleague Omar Barrow.
<br>
They all died in the field of honour.
<p>
In the events we just lived through and are still living, the actors
<br>
could be categorised into three groups: the good ones, the bad
<br>
ones and the ugly ones. The good ones were the peaceful
<br>
students who were sincerely demonstrating for government to
<br>
address their demand for speedy justice in the two cases that
<br>
they had clearly lamented over and over. And the security forces
<br>
that showed restraint.
<p>
The bad ones were the students? and vandals who engaged in
<br>
wanton destruction of properties. This was unwarranted and has
<br>
been condemned by all and sundry.
<p>
The ugly gave the orders and the others carried them out,
<br>
causing the unwarranted maiming of innocent school CHILDREN
<br>
with guns fired from, by Gambian standards, their fathers, uncles,
<br>
brothers and cousins. This use of live ammunition has been
<br>
strongly condemned by the public. But how did we get to that
<br>
Order to Fire Live Ammunition? The Shoot to Kill Order! In fact,
<br>
who gave that drastic order?
<p>
For us, the way the security services handled the matter was
<br>
wrong, very wrong indeed! Imagine just 5, sometimes 10 security
<br>
operatives facing hundreds of children; the result was obvious -
<br>
they were outnumbered and so overpowered by the students and
<br>
had to flee sometimes to avoid the rains of stones and other
<br>
objects.
<p>
The government will not tell us that it didn't know about the
<br>
planned demonstration, as it warned against it. If we were the
<br>
ones, with our little knowledge, giving out orders, we would have
<br>
lined up hundreds of security forces and offered a security
<br>
cordon to the students. Should things get out of hand, as
<br>
happens elsewhere, the hundreds officers already at hand, on
<br>
the spot, could deal with the situation USING ONLY TEAR GAS!
<br>
and that would have in the end disperse the students. The late
<br>
Jallow Jallow's associates and other students who faced the
<br>
colonial administration and later the 1st Republic know what we
<br>
are talking about. 10, 16 or even 20 isolated officers could not
<br>
have contained the various groups of students and vandals.
<p>
If this right approach was taken, there wouldn't have been any
<br>
deaths. International conventions and humanitarian law forbid
<br>
security forces entering shelters like the Red Cross premises, so
<br>
why kill Barrow in that premises? What was the use of all the
<br>
resources put to organising seminars on humanitarian law for our
<br>
security forces?
<p>
It beats our imagination that government should at this point in
<br>
time attribute the responsibility of what it called "the carnage" to
<br>
the UNARMED GAMSU. Government must be up there and
<br>
assume responsibility for any commissions and omissions
<br>
committed by its servants; in other countries, resignations would
<br>
have been tendered by now.
<p>
The way forward is to bring to book all those, who have one way
<br>
or the other played a role in this ugly matter by mishandling the
<br>
situation. That is what the rule of law requires. That is what the
<br>
dignity of Gambians demand.
<p>
Our hearts bled the whole of Monday evening and continue to
<br>
bleed even now as we visualise, after we were told the picture at
<br>
the morgue of the bodies laid there, with their little faces covered,
<br>
their school socks and shoes on.
<p> </html>
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TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Gambia - L Managers,
>
> Madiba should be made to withdraw this statement. It is uncalled for and
> should not be accepted on this forum.
>
> Peace
>
> Tombong
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Tombong, ex-revolutionary!
We are not in the mood for your nonsense. I think Madiba, being the
gentleman that he is, has even been too lenient on you. There are those of
us who would prefer to do it without gloves on.
So drop it before we come at you with all we've got. And stop signing your
mails with the word "Peace" and try "Justice", but first open your
dictionary, or better still ask one of those valiant school children of the
Gambia what the word really means so that you can cease abusing it.
I bet Yaya Jammeh does not need any toilet paper 'cause he's got the likes
of you!
Kabir.
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I cannot believe my eyes what I am reading on the this forum.This government
release is just disgusting. If they call students demonstrating the death
and rape of their colleagues as "bad elements and bandits", then I would
call those who killed innocent little kids as young as years as HELL
ANGELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is outrageous. It is really sickening. My condolence to all the
families involved.
Anna.
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Subject: A Gambian Tragedy
> This message is from my brother Rolf Christensen. I think it reflects the
> way we are all feeling right now.
>
> Astrid/
>
> My sincerest condolences to the families of the young souls we have lost
in
> this saddest of national tragedies. We who are in a position to help
should
> do something to assist the families at this most painful of times.
>
> We must do something to restore the soul of our nation. For too long we
> Gambian's abroad and at home, have been silently disapproving of the
regime
> and its methods. We have watched as they operated with complete
> impunity,callous disregard for fundamental human rights, looted the
treasury
> and embroiled the nation in countless scandals. We have silently watched
as
> they engaged in what can only be described as barbarism in murdering
> opponents under the guise of suppressing coup attempts. Yet through all of
> this we have convinced ourselves that as long as the killings and the
> brutality remain contained within the ranks of the forces, somehow it did
> not and would not affect us and our loved ones and we could conveniently
> turn a blind eye to this blithe.
>
> Now that the violence has spilled over to unarmed civilians, we can no
> longer afford to be silent. There can be no plausible explanation or
> justification for such a heinous act of complete cowardice and wanton
> lawlessness on the part of the security forces and their leaders. I for
one
> have arrived at a point where my conscience will no longer allow me to sit
> on the sidelines and do nothing.
>
> I am deeply ashamed to admit to myself that my complacency in allowing my
> nation and my heritage to be hijacked by a group of despots may have
> contributed to the deaths of innocent school children. Young children, who
> had the courage to express what I and countless others have not had the
> courage to do, and that is to publicly voice our disapproval of the
current
> regime and its methods.
>
> As I write this, my sense of anger and frustration is only matched by the
> feeling of complete helplessness to effect meaningful change in what is
> clearly an intolerable situation. We need a solution and we need it
quickly.
> What can we do? Where do we go from here? I do not have the answer, but
I
> want to be a part of the solution. We can no longer afford to ignore what
is
> going on in the Gambia.
>
> Rolf Christensen
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Alpha,
Thanks for paying tribute to the moms, and giving them the assurance =
that their toils and suffering would never be invain, even in this =
moment of grief and mourning.
Regards,
Omar.
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Dato: 11. april 2000 21:35
Emne: Cry not Mama - a poem
>This poem is dedicated to the parents, especially the mothers, =
relatives
>and friends of the victims of the massacre. I am aware that nothing can
>replace their beloved ones who are now gone, but as I search my mind =
for
>answers, these thoughts keep coming up and I thought I should write =
them
>down for you. If these demonstrations had taken place during my school
>days, I might have been one of the victims. So I have been thinking of
>how my family would have felt and how I would have liked them to feel.
>My heart goes out to you all.
>
>Cry not Mama
>
>Trying to make sense
>Out of the senseless
>Turning around in circles
>Sleepless and restless
>Trying to feel your pain
>
>Mothers and fathers of the matyres
>Young lives taken away
>From earth to earth
>Living in our hearts
>Forever Forever and Forever
>
>Mothers we mourn by your side
>You have carried that baby for eight months
>The ninth month demanding your breath
>The joy you felt after the birth pains
>Hoping and dreaming
>That your baby will one day be someone
>
>You gave that baby solid food and love
>Toiling under the sun
>Nothing you would not do
>To give that child a future
>
>Fathers we mourn by your side
>You work this earth with bare feet
>You deny yourself pleasures
>To give that child a future
>How anxious you were
>Waiting to hear from the maternity ward
>Or was it from the home
>News about your baby
>
>You two took that child to school
>With high expectations
>To acquire knowledge
>For a better future
>
>Then came the gunman
>The neighbour=92s child he was
>No stranger to you
>He calls you mother and father
>Yet he turned that gun on your children
>And took them away from you
>Forever Forever and Forever
>
>But cry not Mama
>That child is in eternal peace
>
>How can I tell you
>How can I make you understand
>That your pain is not in vain
>That your pain is mine
>
>Some give their lives for others
>In their own way
>And live forever
>
>Look at me Mama
>I am your child
>For what your child died for
>Will live in me forever
>So they all live in me Mama
>All those courageous children
>And I am not alone Mama
>We are all your children
>
>As you dry your tears
>Gripped by grief
>Your legs feeling numb and heavy
>Trying to make sense out of the senseless
>Seek consolation in us
>We who will carry your child in us
>Until we take our last breath
>
>No they did not die in vain!
>For what they died for
>Cannot be killed Mama
>Justice must come
>Freedom must come
>A new Gambia will be born
>It=92s only a matter of time
>
>
>By Alpha Robinson
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Gambia-L,
The write-up below, in disguise, is an update on the Gambian situation from
one of my sources in the Gambia. She had sent the information to me for the
comprehensive report I am doing, but I thought I should just forward a part
of her update to the L, pending my report.
Ebrima
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Ebrima, the situation in the country is not only tense but grave. People are
very bitter about the Government statement which did not express remorse but
instead blame GAMSU for the carnage.
George Christenson's Radio FM 1 was threatened yesterday with closure which
he resisted. They returned and said that it would have to be closed because
he owes GAMTEL and his phone-in programme was either interrupted or was
threatened to be interrupted.
The American Embassy paid his arrears and asked him to continue
broadcasting. George Christensen reminded Sarjo Jallow, SOS Communication of
his MOJA days and why was he trying to close the station down to which he
could not come up with an adequate reply.
Ebou Njie Police was on phone-in programme blaming students and saying that
the President has had enough insults. "Students who misbehave will be shot."
he said. That is the talk of the town. Even some members of his own family
have dis-associated with his statement.
People are really fed-up. While things are going on, Yankuba Touray was out
yesterday practising his football. The whole thing is disgusting to say the
least.
GAMSU has demanded the immediate release of the bodies and those students
detained; otherwise they will be out in the streets tomorrow together with
their parents and all and saundry.
WAA Juwara was visited by members of the security forces in his compound and
was asked to disperse his vistors, but he refused. They left without
incident. The handling of this matter is a display of ineptitude of the
highest order.
NB: There are casualities in the provinces, including dead, but the
situation there has not yet been properly assesed.
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Our hearts bled the whole of Monday evening and continue
to
bleed even now as we visualise, after we were told the
picture at
the morgue of the bodies laid there, with their little
faces covered,
their school socks and shoes on.
And now their colleagues and parents are being told that they are
responsible for what happened; that they will be dealt with, I guess, when
the "death squad leader" gets back?. We cannot allow the psychological
warfare being waged against these students and their parents to succeed;
That would be another tragedy.
I spoke to a parent whose child demonstrated. He started our conversation
with a quote - "if you want to catch a cow and it is a little dark, take the
cow by the horns." (I'm sure I've lost the impact of the statement in
translation, I apologize). He went on to say that he blames the army for
taking the kinds of orders which led to what the country has seen the last
few days. He fully supports the students and that it's just a matter of
time. I fervently hope that his sentiments reflects those of the majority
of people in the country and that no one falls for the hogwash being given
by the mouthpieces of this rogue regime.
Which print media will print, for the rest of the Gambia to read, the kind
of support the students have in their quest for justice; which radio station
will air our voices; which TV station will show us demonstrating our disgust
of this murderous regime? But we will demonstrate, write, and speak for as
long (short) as it takes to give these goons their just dessert.
Soffie
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Karamba:
The "Massacre Action Plan" is excellent. Count me in. I will send my
check to Soffie today.
And Please, G-L Community, participate in the letter writing, email
campaign(s) and send letters to President Abdoulaye Wade and Prime
Minister Moustapha Niasse of Senegal.
With the massacre of these students, we must all vehemently oppose and
actively campaign to oust Yahya Jammeh. His rule has brought nothing but
pain and grief to our people and nation.
Abdoulaye Saine
No justice, no peace!
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OMAR BARROW HAS BEEN LIKE A YOUNGER BROTHER TO ME. HE IS SO FULL OF
LIFE,RESPECTFUL,INTELLIGENT AND DETERMINED TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN LIFE(HE
DIED WHILE SERVING THE COURSE OF MANKIND AND HUMANITY)
HE WAS YOUNG AND PROMISING AND SO ARE MANY OTHERS WHO DIED WITH HIM.
THE GPU PRESS RELEASE SAID IT ALL.LET THERE BE FULL INVESTIGATION OF WHAT
HAPPENED, HOW IT HAPPENED AND A DETAILED RELEASE OF THE EXACT NUMBER
INVOLVED.
MY DEEPEST SYMPATHY GOES TO THE YOUNG WIFE OF OMAR AND THEIR BABY GIRL,MAY
ALLAH SEE THEN THROUGH,AMEN.
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Tombong,
Are you commanding or what? You are the people who really failed our nation.
Madiba knows very well what he said.
Bamba.
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>Gambia - L Managers,
>
>Madiba should be made to withdraw this statement. It is uncalled for and
>should not be accepted on this forum.
>
>Peace
>
>Tombong
>
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>>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:49:16 -0700
>>
>>Ebrima,
>>
>>Why do you want to wake up Tombong - a bloody ass licker - from his
>>slumber? Please save us from his usual gibberish commentaries!!
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Madiba Saidy.
>>
>>On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 [log in to unmask] wrote:
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>> > Tombong,
>> > What's going on in The Gambia? Can you shed some light on these ongoing
>> > alleged crimes? Ebrima Barry been killed by the law enforcement
>>officers, and
>> > recently, the alleged killings of some students and civilians by
>>soldiers.
>> > I'm concerned with these troubling behavior happening home.
>> > EB(Ebrima Jarjue).
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can a written letter be printed put and mailed to each of these
organizations as well? generally, they are taken more seriously than
e-mails (which are good too). Ylva
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Jabou Joh wrote:
> Someone offered to set up an email petition that can be signed by all. If we
> can have the email addresse of all these organixations, then we can copy this
> petition to all of them. We can also cc the Gambian embassies as suggested by
> Latjor.We know that it will not amount to anything really, but just so that
> it is seen for the record that we did register our condemnation of this
> coawrdly act with them. If anyone has those email addresses, as well as that
> of other organizations they can think of, please forward them to the list.
> We must also take up the sugestion by Dr Saine to write those letters.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
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> << A lot of people have suggested us e-mailing the UN etc. Does anyone have
> the relevant E-mail addresses ? If so could they broadcast it so that we
> can all take action.
>
> I join the rest of the L in expressing my sorrow and extending my
> condolences to all the grieving families who have lost their loved ones. >>
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Gambia-l,
The following is a declaration by human rights organisations in the Gambia on
the student demo. There is also the GPU press release. Culled from the
Observer.
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After consultations with human rights organisations and activists in The
Gambia, we the undersigned human rights organisations, wish to issue the
following statements:
Following the events of 10th April 2000 in which students from the Greater
Banjul Area were to begin a supposedly peaceful demonstration in order to
protest what they considered the slow pace of justice in prosecuting some fire
officers from Brikama, who allegedly caused the death of a student by the name
of Ebrima Barry and in a separate incident the alleged rape of a 13-year-old
student from Brikama-ba by a man wearing a paramilitary mufti, the student
demonstrations turned nasty as security forces tried to stop them from
demonstrating. In the ensuing confrontation, a number of students, a journalist
and Red Cross volunteer were allegedly shot and killed at point blank range by
the security forces. Also, many were said to have suffered gunshot wounds. The
students went on the rampage and destroyed public property and burnt some
vehicles belonging to the Government.
Although the coalition condemns any and all forms of violence used by the
students to achieve their aims and objectives, the coalition equally condemns
the use of unprecedented violence by the security forces in dealing with the
students.
(a) The students have an inalienable and an entrenched right under the 1997
Constitution at Section 25(d) to "freedom to assemble and demonstrate peaceably
and without arms."
(b) These same rights are echoed and guaranteed under the African Charter and
under the United Nations' International Convention on Civil and
Political Rights.
Although the security forces have a role to play in maintaining the peace and
security of the nation and in defending the territorial integrity of the
nation, the alleged shooting, killing and maiming of students cannot be
justified in any civilised society, especially one that professes to be
democratic. Such behaviour tantamounts to a gross violation of human rights.
The coalition is therefore appealing to the IGP, SoS for Interior, the SoS for
Education, the Army Commander, and all security agents to:
1 Desist from arbitrary arrest, detentions, and assaults.
2. Issue a statement clarifying what has happened.
3. Establish an independent commission of enquiry to look into the matter.
4. Prosecute those responsible for the killings.
5. Make all relevant information available to the public on those individuals
who are presently detained, and account for the students missing.
The coalition likewise calls on all the students concerned to desist from using
violence and the wanton destruction of property in achieving their aims and
objectives.
Emmanuel Joof - African Society of International & Comparative Law Mohammed
Lamin Sillah - Amnesty International, Gambia,
Sheikh ET Lewis - International Society for Human Rights, Gambia
Julia Harrington, Fatou Jagne, Dana Bennett - Institute for Human Rights and
Development
Amie Joof - Private legal practitioner.
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GPU PRESS RELEASE
The death on Monday of a young and promising journalist will certainly go down
as a dark stain in the history of the Second Republic.
Omar Barrow died when allegedly shot by a soldier as he stood inside the
compound of the Red Cross headquarters at Kanifing.
Barrow died while serving as a Red Cross volunteer called to duty by the
emergency. He has now paid the highest price with his life to a cause of
selfless service to humanity he strongly believed in.
His untimely death has shown the whole world the trigger-happy, gungho attitude
of our security forces in their unprofessional dealings with civilians and
unarmed students and journalists.
The Gambia Press Union condemns this dastardly, brutal act of members of the
security forces and calls on government to immediately set up a commission of
inquiry into the death of Omar Barrow and all those who lost their lives in the
disturbances.
The GPU further believes that the situation could have been better managed if
the authorities did not lose their heads by over-reacting.Editor's note: The
Senegalese media have condemned the death of Mr Barrow and called on the
authorities to bring the culprit to book.
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A YOUNG GAMBIAN WANTS TO PARTICIPATE ON THIS FORUM. KINDLY SUBSRIBE HIM. HIS
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Kofi Annan is supposedly scheduled to visit the Gambia on April 28 people.
Here is an excellent opportunity to show the UN what state our poor country
is in and to highlight all the human rights violations that have and are
still taking place in the Gambia. Here is a link about the visit
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20000407_2652.html
I am also working on the e-mail petition and a website to host the forms and
will supply the list with a link in the next day or two. I still need to
have the e-mail addresses (include regular post mail addresses too if u have
them) of the organisations we want to protest to. I am also suggesting that
we set up an organisation of sorts that will monitor these human rights
violations in the gambia and make sure either through the press and and or
the internet (establish a web presence), promote human and civil rights in
the Gambia and also highlight the atrocities taking place. Such a web
site/organisation will develop new methods of activism with Internet
technology and provide an online voice to anyone whose civil and human
rights have been violated or to highlight any corruption in the government
etc. I can supply further details on the setting up the website etc if we
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Before we tell Madiba to withdraw the statement, tell
us, what have you done to prove that what he is saying
is without basis. Give us some hard facts that will
indicate that you are indeed not the ass kisser that
he calls you. In the wake of this heinous crime
committed in the name of your demi-god (the only name
you are worshiping right now), known to most of us as
the "Imbecile and blood thirsty leader of fools: What
does he call himself again---A.J.J. Jammeh?, what did
you, as the proprietor of GRTS do to make sure that
the people's voices are heard? Tombong, have you ever
even tried to think for yourself instead of being a
puppet of Yayah's? Have you ever expressed any
opinion that contradicts Yayah's commands? If you
have ever had any thoughts within your self that did
not agree with anything Yayah said, but was too scared
to voice them, then those kids that died on April 10th
and the ones who stood up and said "We want justice!,
are everyone of them a hundred thousand times more of
a man than you will ever be. LET YOUR CONSCIENCE
GUIDE YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY. We are not like the regime
that you represent. Show us your facts and if they
are genuine we will liste. But do not dare patronize
us or tell us what to do. Our individual intellectual
capacities, are relatively too far ahead of yours for
you to patronize us. ENJOY YOUR DAY!!!
--- TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Gambia - L Managers,
>
> Madiba should be made to withdraw this statement. It
> is uncalled for and
> should not be accepted on this forum.
>
> Peace
>
> Tombong
>
> >From: Madiba Saidy <[log in to unmask]>
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> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Tombong - Re: Massacre of Students in The
> Gambia
> >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:49:16 -0700
> >
> >Ebrima,
> >
> >Why do you want to wake up Tombong - a bloody ass
> licker - from his
> >slumber? Please save us from his usual gibberish
> commentaries!!
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Madiba Saidy.
> >
> >On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >
> > > Tombong,
> > > What's going on in The Gambia? Can you shed some
> light on these ongoing
> > > alleged crimes? Ebrima Barry been killed by the
> law enforcement
> >officers, and
> > > recently, the alleged killings of some students
> and civilians by
> >soldiers.
> > > I'm concerned with these troubling behavior
> happening home.
> > > EB(Ebrima Jarjue).
> > >
> > >
>
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Ooops wrong e-mail address: right one is [log in to unmask]
Thanks
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The e-mail petition form will give users that option also, thats why I need
the addresses (regular mail)
Pope
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>can a written letter be printed put and mailed to each of these
>organizations as well? generally, they are taken more seriously than
>e-mails (which are good too). Ylva
>
>On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Jabou Joh wrote:
>
> > Someone offered to set up an email petition that can be signed by all.
>If we
> > can have the email addresse of all these organixations, then we can copy
>this
> > petition to all of them. We can also cc the Gambian embassies as
>suggested by
> > Latjor.We know that it will not amount to anything really, but just so
>that
> > it is seen for the record that we did register our condemnation of this
> > coawrdly act with them. If anyone has those email addresses, as well as
>that
> > of other organizations they can think of, please forward them to the
>list.
> > We must also take up the sugestion by Dr Saine to write those letters.
> >
> > Jabou Joh
> >
> > In a message dated 4/11/00 11:35:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> > << A lot of people have suggested us e-mailing the UN etc. Does anyone
>have
> > the relevant E-mail addresses ? If so could they broadcast it so that
>we
> > can all take action.
> >
> > I join the rest of the L in expressing my sorrow and extending my
> > condolences to all the grieving families who have lost their loved
>ones. >>
> >
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Buhary:
This is great! Could you draft the letter and set the process going
with Yankuba Njie? It would be great if you could. Thanks!
Abdoulaye
MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA wrote:
>
> Hi Karamba!
> I agree with your suggestion and your choice of
> people if it is o.k. with them. I am getting more outraged by the minute
> especially after having just read Ebrima Ceesay's update in which he said
> that more students have been killed today.
> Yankuba Njie has suggested that he can host the petition. I think we
> should go ahead and draft the text of the petition for approval. Thanks.
>
> Buharry.
> ----- Original
> Message -----------------------------------------------------------------
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> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 7:07 PM
> Subject: Massacre Action Plan
>
> > I thought I would bounce around an action plan for list members to
> consider
> > in light of the tragedy we are all trying to deal with. Since we all agree
> > something meaningful has to be done relatively quickly, I suggest we
> > immediately name a G-L crisis coordinator to be our point man in doing the
> > following:
> > 1- Be a repository for an emergency fund drive aimed at collecting money
> .
> > We can all send contributions immediately to this coordinator.
> > 2-The said coordinator would then be authorized by us list members to
> hire
> > lawyers in Gambia pronto to first establish the names and identities of
> all
> > the victims. Our coordinator and the lawyers can then formerly approach
> the
> > victims families to offer them representation. This would enable our team
> of
> > lawyers to meticulously investigate the entire events surrounding the
> > massacre by interviewing survivors and talking to witnesses. While the
> > government is busy rationalizing the killings and crafting a cover-up, we
> too
> > can have our people reconstructing the crime. Once the investigative phase
> is
> > over our lawyers can submit their findings to us and the world. If we
> don't
> > initiate our own enquiry, these brave students who paid the ultimate price
> > would not have the honor, dignity and justice we owe them. None of us have
> > any faith in Yahya Jammehs judiciary nor should we even consider awaiting
> > their socalled enquiry.
> > If list members agree and we proceed today, by the seven day (sarah) I
> > anticipate we would have put together some money to even help in the Sarah
> .
> > Our coordinator would be asked to donate to each of the families by the
> > weekend. We can have our lawyers announce by Monday that they have been
> > retained by us to handle this matter. They would immediately begin work by
> > seeking the release of students still held . I understand the government
> is
> > trying to arrange a meeting with parents in a cynical attempt to pacify
> the
> > very obvious anger they know has engulfed the people. With our lawyers
> > announcing what amounts to probono representation, the parents can even
> > condition any meeting with the government to the presence of counsel to
> > shield them from the kinds of wicked manipulation this desperate gov't
> would
> > try.
> > Please list members let us begin rightaway. I would like to suggest Saffie
> > Ceesay of Silver Spring , Maryland for the USA and Alpha Robinson for
> > Europe. If the suggestion is approved I would send mine this evening.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Karamba
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Hey dear,
we at Gamraleigh.com are willing to help via our website in any way or
form. Please contact us at [log in to unmask] with details .
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e-mail petition and a website to host the
>forms and
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>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:33:01 EDT
>
>Kofi Annan is supposedly scheduled to visit the Gambia on April 28 people.
>Here is an excellent opportunity to show the UN what state our poor country
>is in and to highlight all the human rights violations that have and are
>still taking place in the Gambia. Here is a link about the visit
>http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20000407_2652.html
>
>I am also working on the e-mail petition and a website to host the forms
>and
>will supply the list with a link in the next day or two. I still need to
>have the e-mail addresses (include regular post mail addresses too if u
>have
>them) of the organisations we want to protest to. I am also suggesting that
>we set up an organisation of sorts that will monitor these human rights
>violations in the gambia and make sure either through the press and and or
>the internet (establish a web presence), promote human and civil rights in
>the Gambia and also highlight the atrocities taking place. Such a web
>site/organisation will develop new methods of activism with Internet
>technology and provide an online voice to anyone whose civil and human
>rights have been violated or to highlight any corruption in the government
>etc. I can supply further details on the setting up the website etc if we
>want to go ahead with this. Thats all for now and just in case my e-mail
>address is [log in to unmask]
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Hello,
I am for the great suggestion of yours Saul). Perhaps we should put
together and Ad-Hoc committee to come up with the date. It is just a
suggestion but the earlier the better.
Ebrima Ceesay
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>All,
>
>In addition to all the wonderful suggestions made, why don't we coordinate
>a
>UNIVERSAL DEMONSTRATION against this barbaric regime? We pick a DATE in the
>next three/four weeks, select a LOCATION, and organize. All Gambians in the
>US could come down to DC, and we'll head for the embassy to register our
>disgust, and demands for the immediate resignation of this criminal govt.
>Gambians in the UK will do the same thing in London, and those in the other
>parts of the world will act likewise ON THE SAME DAY to achieve maximum
>impact. We have no problems flying cross country for the 4th of July, or
>ALD
>parties. What better cause to pay air tickets for, or to call in sick?
>
>PLEASE LET'S NOT LET OUR YOUNGER BROTHERS, SISTERS AND SONS DIE IN VAIN! WE
>CAN PULL THIS OFF. I KNOW IT!
>
>Saul.
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I AM SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF THIS ADDRESS. DOES ANYBODY
HAVE IT. OR HIS PHONE NUMBER. IF ANYBODY'S GOT ONE
OF THESE, PLEASE MAKE IT AVAILABLE. AT THIS JUNCTURE,
MOST OF WHAT I HAVE IN ME, NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED TO HIM
directly!!!
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Oh, so it is Essa Thomas. You and me both brother. I
wish I could attain his addresses too! If you are
lucky let me know.
--- tester testers <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I AM SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF THIS ADDRESS. DOES
> ANYBODY
> HAVE IT. OR HIS PHONE NUMBER. IF ANYBODY'S GOT ONE
> OF THESE, PLEASE MAKE IT AVAILABLE. AT THIS
> JUNCTURE,
> MOST OF WHAT I HAVE IN ME, NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED TO
> HIM
> directly!!!
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> THANK YOU COMRADES!!!
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Essa & Sigga,
I know someone had posted his email address a while back. It might be in
the archives. I'll research and post it.
Astrid/
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>
>Oh, so it is Essa Thomas. You and me both brother. I
>wish I could attain his addresses too! If you are
>lucky let me know.
>--- tester testers <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > I AM SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF THIS ADDRESS. DOES
> > ANYBODY
> > HAVE IT. OR HIS PHONE NUMBER. IF ANYBODY'S GOT ONE
> > OF THESE, PLEASE MAKE IT AVAILABLE. AT THIS
> > JUNCTURE,
> > MOST OF WHAT I HAVE IN ME, NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED TO
> > HIM
> > directly!!!
> >
> > THANK YOU COMRADES!!!
> >
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> >
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ns, internet, software, advertising banners, e-mail, free software'></he=
ad><body ><div align=3D'left'><font ><blockquote><blockquote><TT>Sig=
ga, thanks for reaching out at this time of great need for our <BR>
people. =A0Sorry for the delay in my response to your original <BR>
message. =A0I was mesmerized by the situation and spent most of the day=
<BR>
talking to different folks regarding this nightmare. =A0Regarding your =
<BR>
inquiry as to plans of action underway, please see Karamba and Dr. <BR>=
Saine's posting. =A0I will let you know of other actions as they come <=
BR>
to my attention.<BR>
<BR>
On the issue of the Observer, I was appalled by their appetite for <BR>=
poor taste and total disregard for truth and justice. =A0I was equally =
<BR>
disgusted by the narrow an skewed observations of Mary Samba <BR>
Christensen, a Human Rights Lawyer at that. =A0If she can be so blind <=
BR>
and partial to the system, I wonder why our justice system is so <BR>
skewed. =A0How on earth could she face the reporters and blame the <BR>=
students for the destruction of property and say nothing about the <BR>=
live ammunition used and the deaths that ensued. =A0Her focus in the <B=
R>
Law <BR>
should be property rights and not human rights, for I see nothing <BR>
human in her analysis. =A0<BR>
<BR>
Let's forge ahead, that's our duty.<BR>
<BR>
Chi Jaama<BR>
<BR>
Joe Sambou<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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From: Sigga jagne <[log in to unmask]><BR>
Sent: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:36:14 -0700<BR>
To: [log in to unmask]<BR>
Subject: Re: HOW COULD THE DAILY OBSERVER, ADD SALT & PAPER TO OUR =
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WOUNDS?<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
--- Sigga jagne <[log in to unmask]> wrote:<BR>
> Am I the only one outraged by the "Daily Observer's"<BR>=
> article on the massacre of the Gambian students<BR>
> yesterday? =A0If you have not seen it yet, see for<BR>
> yourself below (As posted by Momodou Camara on G-L)<BR>
><BR>
> How dare they? =A0The article suggested that the<BR>
> student's were the cause of the escalation of the<BR>
> incident, to the point of murder by the paramilitary<BR>
> officers. =A0It suggested that the Paramilitary<BR>
> personnel, only acted out of fear for their safety<BR>
> and<BR>
> out of desperation. =A0Almost as if they only reacted<BR>
> in<BR>
> self defense. Is observer hinting that the dead<BR>
> students are responsible for their own death? =A0Will<BR>
> someone explain to me how trained, armed, killing<BR>
> machines like those "Jammeh Assassins" can justify<BR>
> their fear of defenseless school children? =A0How can<BR>
> they justify their "claimed acts of Self Defense"<BR>
> against innocent youths armed with nothing?<BR>
><BR>
> I swear as I was reading it, I was almost sure that<BR>
> I<BR>
> was reading a report on the incident put out by<BR>
> Jammeh<BR>
> and his "Puppet Government." =A0What is going on<BR>
> OBSERVER? What happened to the brave front you used<BR>
> to<BR>
> present and your usual reporting of injustices by<BR>
> the<BR>
> government. =A0Why have you decided to play it save in<BR>
> this, the Gambian People's most hour of need? =A0I<BR>
> have<BR>
> to say, as a former fan of the newspaper, that am<BR>
> greatly disappointed. =A0This is not a time to report<BR>
> "Government Friendly Material." =A0It is a time to<BR>
> report the truth, a time for you and all other<BR>
> vehicles of journalism to use that unrivaled power<BR>
> of<BR>
> the press, to make sure the voice of the Gambian<BR>
> people are heard world wide. =A0I think that if our<BR>
> young can be out in the streets of Gambia facing<BR>
> bullets and laying down their lives, we the adults<BR>
> can<BR>
> surely be shocked into action. =A0For we have indeed<BR>
> failed them. =A0If we had knipped Jammeh's lunatic<BR>
> outbursts of crazed dictatorship from the beginning,<BR>
> then our young will not have found it necessary to<BR>
> lay<BR>
> down their lives in other to achieve justice. =A0As it<BR>
> is, we should be ashamed of the fact that we did<BR>
> indeed watch on and in the process, let our brothers<BR>
> and sisters down. =A0For we should be the protectors<BR>
> of<BR>
> our future leaders. =A0Hence, the least we can do now,<BR>
> is to make sure that those who died did not die in<BR>
> vain. =A0And if anything, I would expect the press to<BR>
> lead this call for justice. =A0I definitely did not<BR>
> expect the Daily Observer to be the one poking at<BR>
> our<BR>
> wounds by almost blaming our dead for their own<BR>
> murders. =A0Please tell me that you were monitored or<BR>
> forced to write this article against your will. =A0For<BR>
> I<BR>
> cannot believe that such a fine mechanism of<BR>
> journalism would drop the batton in the midst of the<BR>
> race. =A0In the Spirit of true journalism, I invoke<BR>
> you<BR>
> to divert this course your newspaper has taken. =A0We<BR>
> all know that often, it is the press who help<BR>
> re-write<BR>
> modern history. =A0So help us re-write our history.<BR>
> Help us take the reigns of our country from these<BR>
> murderous, inhumane creatures. =A0In Your Heart You<BR>
> Know<BR>
> The Truth, So Let It Be Heard or better yet, in this<BR>
> case, Let It Be Read.<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
> I look forward to FOROYAA's version of the events.<BR>
><BR>
> Momodou Camara<BR>
><BR>
> The Daily Observer Published 04/11/00<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
> =A010 DEAD IN STUDENTS DEMO<BR>
><BR>
> At least ten people are reported to have died<BR>
> following clashes between<BR>
> demonstrating students and armed police and soldiers<BR>
> yesterday.<BR>
><BR>
> Students from schools in Serrekunda, Banjul, Brikama<BR>
> and Bakau, went<BR>
> out on the<BR>
> streets to protest against what they said was the<BR>
> 'slow pace' of<BR>
> justice in the<BR>
> prosecution of the Brikama fire officers who were<BR>
> alleged to have<BR>
> caused the<BR>
> death of student Ebrima Barry, and an unidentified<BR>
> uniformed officer<BR>
> alleged to<BR>
> have raped the 13-year-old Brikama-ba school girl.<BR>
><BR>
> Among the dead in yesterday's clashes was Red cross<BR>
> volunteer, Omar<BR>
> Barrow, who<BR>
> is also the editor of Sud FM Radio, Banjul.Last<BR>
> week,<BR>
> students under<BR>
> the aegis<BR>
> of Gambia Students Union (Gamsu) sent messages to<BR>
> schools in the<BR>
> Greater Banjul<BR>
> Area informing of the strike. Messages on posters<BR>
> were<BR>
> also pinned up<BR>
> in<BR>
> schools and along =A0streets in Serrekunda.<BR>
><BR>
> Alerted about the strike, the department of state<BR>
> for<BR>
> the Interior<BR>
> Sunday<BR>
> issued a press release warning students against<BR>
> staging a strike and<BR>
> stressed<BR>
> that no attempt to disrupt the peace will be<BR>
> allowed.<BR>
><BR>
> Sources at Interior said the executive members of<BR>
> Gamsu were invited to<BR>
> a<BR>
> meeting where they were briefed on government's<BR>
> efforts to speedily<BR>
> prosecute<BR>
> the alleged errant officers.<BR>
><BR>
> However, at about 8am Monday, students carrying<BR>
> white<BR>
> banners with<BR>
> slogans,<BR>
> "Justice for Ebrima Barry", "We rather die than<BR>=
> injustice", "Respect<BR>
> the future<BR>
> leaders", "Redeploy Brikama fire officers" and<BR>
> chanting, "We are hot,<BR>
> very,<BR>
> very hot!", "We want freedom and justice!", began<B=
R>
> gathering at GTTI<BR>
> where they<BR>
> were to begin the supposedly "peaceful"<BR>
> demonstration.<BR>
><BR>
> A contingent of paramilitary officers arrived at the<BR>
> scene and<BR>
> cautioned the<BR>
> students to call off the strike. They refused to<BR>
> comply. A short while<BR>
> later,<BR>
> armed forces chief of staff, Babucarr Jatta, and<BR>
> army<BR>
> commander, Lt Col<BR>
> Momodou<BR>
> Badjie, arrived and urged the students to remain<BR>
> calm.<BR>
><BR>
> The students began throwing stones when the<BR>
> paramilitary officers<BR>
> barred their<BR>
> way. =A0The officers reacted by firing shots into the<BR>
> air. There was<BR>
> pandemonium<BR>
> as some of the students ran amok while others did<BR>
> mock<BR>
> battle with the<BR>
> armed<BR>
> officers.<BR>
><BR>
> The paramilitary officers regrouped at the mobile<BR>
> traffic unit as the<BR>
> students<BR>
> in disparate groups advanced towards the Westfield<BR>
> junction, setting up<BR>
> road<BR>
> blocks and setting vehicle tyres on fire.<BR>
><BR>
> At the Westfield junction, Col Jatta and Interior<BR>
> secretary, Ousman<BR>
> Badjie,<BR>
> tried to calm the students without success.<BR>
><BR>
> The students vandalised the Westfield Gamtel office,<BR>
> burning the<BR>
> building and<BR>
> smashing to smithreens the computers and furniture.<BR>
><BR>
> They continued on the stoning spree along Kairaba<BR>
><BR>
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Subject: Plan of Action-PLEASE READ1
I am planning to put together a fund raising campaign here in Kentucky. Am
going to talk to the Gambian students here tonight so that they can help
out. I plan to put together a brief summary of events and the address for
donations( in Ya Soffie's name as posted on Gambia-l) in a pamphlet and
give it out to the general public and also E-mail it to everyone in my work
place, and to the faculty, staff, and students of Kentucky State
University. These donations can then be directly sent to Ya Soffie, or to
one of us (Gambians students at Kentucky State University). We will then
send whatever monies we collect, to Ya Soffie. Let me know if you have any
ideas as to the content of the pamphlet. Also, I wanted to suggest that we
use some of these funds to give render medical assistance to the wounded. I
know some of them are critically injured and might require medical
attention beyond what is available in the Gambia. We may be able to set it
up for them to acquire visas considering the circumstances. We can also
arrange for hospitals that they can be attended at, as well as maintenance
and care while they are here. I say this because I know for a fact that a
three year old was shot in the head and is lying right now in the hospital
on the brink of death. Who knows what type of trauma his brain and central
nervous system has received. Can these be safely attended to in the
Gambia? And speaking personally, my 16 year old brother was shot in the
stomach and arm. He has multiple lacerations of the liver and kidney. His
intestines were perforated, and due to excessive internal bleeding, his
lungs were filled with blood leading to pulmonary edema.
Well, let me know about any suggestions you have as far as the fund raising
and steps towards attaining medical help , here in the US, for those who
are critically ill
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Essa & Sigga,
This is the address that was posted as Yaya's email address. I don't know
if it's the correct address but you can try.
ALHAGI YAHYA A.J.J.JAMMEH
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Astrid/
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>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:44:45 -0700
>
>I AM SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF THIS ADDRESS. DOES ANYBODY
>HAVE IT. OR HIS PHONE NUMBER. IF ANYBODY'S GOT ONE
>OF THESE, PLEASE MAKE IT AVAILABLE. AT THIS JUNCTURE,
>MOST OF WHAT I HAVE IN ME, NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED TO HIM
>directly!!!
>
>THANK YOU COMRADES!!!
>
>ESSA THOMAS
>
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Gambia-L,
Below is a statement I received a shortwhile ago from Amnesty International
in London.
Ebrima Ceesay
Birmingham, UK.
>From: [log in to unmask]
>To: "ebrima ceesay" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Urgent Action on Gambia - Amnesty International
>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:14:51 +0100
>
>
>AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
>URGENT ACTION
>PUBLIC
>AI Index: AFR 27/01/00
>
>EXTRA 35/00 Excessive use of force by security forces 12 April
> 2000
>
>GAMBIA Fourteen people killed and at least 28 injured
>
>
>Fourteen people were killed and at least 28 injured when security forces
>used excessive and indiscriminate force to break up student-organized
>protest demonstrations on 10 and 11 April 2000. Amnesty International is
>concerned for the safety of those taking part in further demonstrations
>anticipated in the coming days and weeks.
>
>The demonstrations, involving hundreds of people, were organized by the
>Gambian Students Union (GAMSU) in Banjul, Brikama and other towns to
>protest at the death of a 19-year-old student, Ebrima Barry, on 9 March,
>reportedly after torture by Brikama Fire Service personnel, and the alleged
>rape of a 13-year-old schoolgirl by a police officer the next day.
>
>The demonstrations went ahead despite a refusal by the authorities to grant
>GAMSU a permit. The demonstration in Banjul on 10 April became violent when
>the security forces tried to disperse crowds using tear gas and rubber
>bullets. The security forces apparently fired indiscriminately into the
>crowd when demonstrators began throwing stones at them, burning tyres and
>setting fire to buildings, including fire stations and police stations.
>Oumar Baro, a journalist and Gambia Red Cross volunteer, wearing Red Cross
>insignia, was killed as he went to help injured demonstrators.
>
>The situation in the country remains tense with further demonstrations,
>some violent, taking place in other towns on 11 April. The authorities have
>closed all schools indefinitely and asked parents to keep their children at
>home until further notice. Soldiers are patrolling the streets in Banjul to
>maintain order. Of more than 100 demonstrators arrested, most have now been
>charged or released.
>
>Government and police sources have said that six fire personnel suspected
>of being responsible for the torture and death of Ebrima Barry have been
>arrested, interrogated and remanded in custody pending a court hearing. It
>is not clear whether any of the suspects have yet been charged. An official
>autopsy, the results of which were made public at the end of March,
>concluded that Ebrima Barry died of natural causes. GAMSU insists that the
>government has not responded adequately to the alleged torture and death of
>Ebrima Barry.
>
>Police have said they are carrying out a full investigation into the
>alleged rape of the 13-year-old girl. Although a police identity parade has
>reportedly been held, no suspects were identified and no one has been
>charged.
>
>BACKGROUND INFORMATION
>
>After a military coup in 1994 the former chair of the ruling military
>council, retired Colonel Yahya Jammeh, was elected president in
>controversial elections in September 1996. Decrees were then passed banning
>politicians in the former government from being politically active and
>granting total immunity from prosecution to those who held power as a
>result of the military coup in 1994 up until the return to civilian rule.
>These decrees remain in force.
>
>RECOMMENDED ACTION: Please send telegrams/faxes/express/airmail letters in
>English or your own language:
>- expressing concern at excessive force used by security forces in breaking
>up demonstrations in Banjul and other towns on 10 and 11 April 2000
>resulting in the deaths of at least 14 people and injuries to at least 28
>others;
>- calling on the government to instruct security forces to abide by the
>United Nations Basic Principles on the Use of Force and Firearms by Law
>Enforcement Officials, which state that 'the intentional lethal use of
>firearms may only be made when strictly unavoidable in order to protect
>life';
>- urging the government to initiate a full and impartial investigation into
>security force violence, including deaths and injuries of demonstrators, at
>demonstrations held on 10 and 11 April and asking that all those found
>responsible for human rights violations be immediately brought to justice;
>- emphasizing the need for full, independent and impartial investigations
>to be carried out into the alleged torture of Ebrima Barry by Brikama Fire
>Service personnel on 9 March and the alleged rape of a 13-year-old
>schoolgirl by a police officer on 10 March;
>- urging the government to ensure that those found to be responsible in
>these cases are charged and brought to justice without delay.
>
>APPEALS TO:
>President and Minister of Defence
>Captain (retd.) Yahya A.J.J.Jammeh
>Office of the President
>State House, Banjul
>The Gambia
>Telegrams: President, Banjul, Gambia
>Faxes: + 220 227034
>Salutation: Dear President
>
>Minister of Interior
>Honourable Ousman Badjie
>Ministry of Interior
>71 Dobson Street, Banjul
>The Gambia
>Telegrams: Interior Minister, Banjul, Gambia
>Faxes: + 220 223063
>Salutation: Dear Minister
>
>Minister of Justice and Attorney-General
>Honourable Pap Cheyassin Secka
>Ministry of Justice
>Marina Parade, Banjul
>The Gambia
>Telegrams: Justice Minister, Banjul, Gambia
>Faxes: + 220 225352
>Salutation: Dear Minister
>
>Inspector General of Police
>Inspector General Rex King
>Police Headquarters
>Buckle Street, Banjul
>The Gambia
>Salutation: Dear Inspector
>
>COPIES TO:
>The Editor, The Point newspaper, PO Box 66, Banjul, The Gambia
>Faxes: + 220 497442
>
>The Editor, Daily Observer newspaper, PMB 131, Banjul, The Gambia
>Faxes: + 220 496878
>
>and to diplomatic representatives of Gambia accredited to your country.
>
>PLEASE SEND APPEALS IMMEDIATELY. Check with the International Secretariat,
>or your section office, if sending appeals after 12 May 2000.
>
>(See attached file: 12700100.wp)
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Brothers and Sisters,
In addition to the e-mail address mentioned below by Dagma, Yaya has two =
other e-mail addresses namely:
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2. [log in to unmask]
Anybody wanting to send him a mail can give my greetings to him.=20
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Essa & Sigga,
This is the address that was posted as Yaya's email address. I don't =
know
if it's the correct address but you can try.
ALHAGI YAHYA A.J.J.JAMMEH
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Astrid/
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>I AM SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF THIS ADDRESS. DOES ANYBODY
>HAVE IT. OR HIS PHONE NUMBER. IF ANYBODY'S GOT ONE
>OF THESE, PLEASE MAKE IT AVAILABLE. AT THIS JUNCTURE,
>MOST OF WHAT I HAVE IN ME, NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED TO HIM
>directly!!!
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>THANK YOU COMRADES!!!
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In addition to the e-mail address =
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:56:13 -0700
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Goodness! Where do they find the likes of you,
Ambassador? You want us to be greatful for you doing
your freaking job? Like Yusupha said, your timing
can't be more off. You chose a time of grief to tell
us what you are doing for the Gambian students. If we
could trade those material things for the lives of
the students, we will. I understand you're trying to
defend yourself from the accusations, but for crying
out loud, shove the material things.
I do not condemn anyone for accepting a position with
the current governmnent but you have to be ready to
share the blame if shit hits the fan. Personally, my
conscience will not allow me to work in an environment
that goes against my principles, but hey, that is just
me.
I am sick and tired of hearing Yaya referring to the
country as "his"; sick and tired of the likes of you
expect us to be greatful for doing your jobs; sick and
tired of the govt. servants (especially the police,
military, fire) act as if they don't work for the tax
payers but for Yaya; sick and tired of the lack of
accountability from the government; sick and tired of
the human right violations, which usually goes
unpurnished; and frankly just freaking sick and tired.
Reality check, you, Yaya and everyone that earns their
paychecks from the tax payers, are just hired help.
You work for the people.
I do not know you, so I will not judge you, but as
long as you continue to hold that position and any
other Govt. position, you should be ready to take the
heat especially if you're ready to defend the actions
of the regime. I guess the military, police, and fire
are not under the government anymore, or do you think
we are just plain stupid. Unless the students had guns
shooting at innocent unarmed people, (which from what
I have been reading they did not) I want to hear
anyone try to justify what happened on Monday.
If you cannot provide us answers, don't try to shift
the blame, especially not to the students.
William.
--- Essa Sey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Your "excellency" Bokarr Sey, it is absolutely
> shocking and sad that you have
> chosen this moment to further your government's
> cause. As an official
> representative of the Gambia govt, you should have
> joined all of us in
> condemning what happened today. Instead you chose to
> represent yourself and
> govt by using half truths and half baked statements.
>
> In your attempt to dissociate the regime from
> today's tragic incident you
> state:
> Quote
> I want to put it you personally that there is no one
> amongst us serving under
> Jammeh and Jammeh himself who would be so
> irresponsible to order the massacre
> of students
> Unquote
>
> In response to this statement, my question is
> whether the top military
> commanders in the GNA do not serve under Jammeh?
> Unless the military chain
> of command has completely crumbled, your statement,
> coming from the Gambian
> Ambassador to France, should be considered as a
> shameful attempt to cover the
> truth.
>
> In your continuing bumbled attempt to defend I don't
> know what, you state:
> Quote
> I want those of you whirling accusations to know
> that some of those students
> who lost their lives are closely related to people
> working under Jammeh.Some
> are related to Jammeh himself. Did you know that?
> Unquote
>
> This statement is not relevant in relation to what
> happened today. As far as
> most of us are concerned, all that counts is that
> innocent students were
> killed today. I even doubt the validity of the
> statement you made since
> there is no evidence to support your claims.
>
> Unfortunately, you have chosen this time to defend
> your regime. But history
Mr. Jow and co.
>
> My choice was carefully
> calculated and i am equally shocked by the way i see
> some of you try to "forcefully" put people into
> positions that simple logic repells.There is no
> shame in trying to remind brothers and sisters to
> jointly see the issue at hand as a national
> tragedy,after all.However, you reserve the right to
> interprete my wriring as you wish.
>
> The same deliberate and subjective judgements are
> raining on me now,this was obviously what i
> expected.Mr Jow i am in no way trying to exonerate
> any person or regime.My point is simple and straight
> forward and i maintain it.One of the children who
> died is my relative believe me or not thats your
> opinion and you have the right to either reject or
> accept what i say.
>
> Mr Jow please note that i practicalise my support
> for those poor students by lobbying for support from
> all quarters.A ontainer full of chairs,exercise
> books,wheel chairs etc that has been loaded from a
> city called Dieppe in France is on the to the
> Gambia.I collaborated with Alhaji soriba Gassama(the
> former president of the supreme islamic council) to
> get those materials transported to schools and
> clinics in the Gambia.
>
> Thats only to let you know a bit of what i am doing
> for students in the Gambia.You can call soriba
> Gassama to find out.Part of my priorities as
> Ambassador is to do a ot for our school children.One
> of the dossiers on my desk now is to look into the
> possibilties for vocational training in favour of
> Gambians in the canary islands.This is just to let
> you know that your attempts to deliberately say
> that i am not on the side of the students is FALSE
> and intended to politicise the situation.
>
> My father was a teacher and died a teacher like
> yours and both of them we should pray for to rest in
> peace.So Mr Jow my position is not to apply
> cosmetics but is rather intended to let you feel
> that no one in the Gvt.will enjoy seeing students
> being killed please lets argue reasonably.
>
> My intention is not to be playing a merry go-round
> game with anyone on the forum,however, my believe is
> that there is no shame as Ambassador to exchange
> views with anyone on such important issues.
>
> Essa Bokarr SEY.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> has been the best judge of tyrants and their
> coconspirators. Time will tell!
>
>
> Yus
>
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:59:48 PDT
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Hey prince,
i think, he did sign our guest book "www.Gamraleigh.com" and if i am right
his email address should still be there . I am at work and cannot access
gamraleigh's website right now but go to the guess book you might find it
there.
thanks
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>Brothers and Sisters,
>In addition to the e-mail address mentioned below by Dagma, Yaya has two
>other e-mail addresses namely:
>
>1. [log in to unmask]
>2. [log in to unmask]
>
>Anybody wanting to send him a mail can give my greetings to him.
>
>Prince Coker
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: astrid christensen-tasong
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 8:15 PM
> Subject: Re: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY HAVE IT???
>
>
> Essa & Sigga,
>
> This is the address that was posted as Yaya's email address. I don't
>know
> if it's the correct address but you can try.
>
> ALHAGI YAHYA A.J.J.JAMMEH
> mailto:[log in to unmask]
>
> Astrid/
>
> >From: tester testers <[log in to unmask]>
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> >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:44:45 -0700
> >
> >I AM SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF THIS ADDRESS. DOES ANYBODY
> >HAVE IT. OR HIS PHONE NUMBER. IF ANYBODY'S GOT ONE
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Omar,
I did go to your website and this is the address Yaya used:
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Astrid/
>From: omar jabang <[log in to unmask]>
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> Hey prince,
>i think, he did sign our guest book "www.Gamraleigh.com" and if i am right
>his email address should still be there . I am at work and cannot access
>gamraleigh's website right now but go to the guess book you might find it
>there.
>
>thanks
>
>>From: Prince Obrien-Coker <[log in to unmask]>
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>>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:46:15 +0200
>>
>>Brothers and Sisters,
>>In addition to the e-mail address mentioned below by Dagma, Yaya has two
>>other e-mail addresses namely:
>>
>>1. [log in to unmask]
>>2. [log in to unmask]
>>
>>Anybody wanting to send him a mail can give my greetings to him.
>>
>>Prince Coker
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: astrid christensen-tasong
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 8:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY HAVE IT???
>>
>>
>> Essa & Sigga,
>>
>> This is the address that was posted as Yaya's email address. I don't
>>know
>> if it's the correct address but you can try.
>>
>> ALHAGI YAHYA A.J.J.JAMMEH
>> mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>
>> Astrid/
>>
>> >From: tester testers <[log in to unmask]>
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>> >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:44:45 -0700
>> >
>> >I AM SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF THIS ADDRESS. DOES ANYBODY
>> >HAVE IT. OR HIS PHONE NUMBER. IF ANYBODY'S GOT ONE
>> >OF THESE, PLEASE MAKE IT AVAILABLE. AT THIS JUNCTURE,
>> >MOST OF WHAT I HAVE IN ME, NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED TO HIM
>> >directly!!!
>> >
>> >THANK YOU COMRADES!!!
>> >
>> >ESSA THOMAS
>> >
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We also need volunteers in the Gambia to help in the immediate and
unconditional release of all the detained students.. May be this is the
time for some Gambian lawyers to intervene.
Thanxxxxxx
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Greetings:
In reaction to the attrocities recently perpetrated on the students by the
armed forces, an emergency meeting was convened late last night here in
Washington DC.
The outcome of the meeting was the following:
1. Immediate action was called for to express our outrage over the
slaughter of young Gambian lives.
This will be in the form of a Demonstration!
THIS FRIDAY, April 12 AT 10:00 AM
at the Gambian Embassy in Washington DC!
1155 15th St. NW (Next to the Madison Hotel - 15th and L St)
All Gambians residing in the area and friends of The Gambia are
called to action.
2. On Saturday, April 13th, there will be a community meeting.
The purpose of the meeting will be:
a) To develop a structural framework to better coordinate efforts
within the community and other communities in the U.S.
b) To disseminate up-to-date information to the general community
about this incident and other objectives being developed.
c) To develop a plan of action geared towards the ALD to address
the need for a national Political Action Committee.
d) To develop a strategy to address the immediate need for
assistance for those individuals and families affected (medical,
legal, ...)
e) To develop a strategy to obtain timely and accurate information
on the ground (Gambia)
The place and time will be announced very soon. (Note: If you have a
location you wish to suggest, please forward it to either of the names below
or just post it on the list, or call.)
No Justice No Peace!
For the Ad Hoc Committee:
Ousainou Mbenga
Karamba Touray
Latjor Ndow
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:32:35 +0100
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G-l,
This is the address found in the Gamraleigh site.
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From: "omar jabang" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY HAVE IT???
> Hey prince,
> i think, he did sign our guest book "www.Gamraleigh.com" and if i am right
> his email address should still be there . I am at work and cannot access
> gamraleigh's website right now but go to the guess book you might find it
> there.
>
> thanks
>
> >From: Prince Obrien-Coker <[log in to unmask]>
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> ><[log in to unmask]>
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> >Subject: Re: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY HAVE IT???
> >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:46:15 +0200
> >
> >Brothers and Sisters,
> >In addition to the e-mail address mentioned below by Dagma, Yaya has two
> >other e-mail addresses namely:
> >
> >1. [log in to unmask]
> >2. [log in to unmask]
> >
> >Anybody wanting to send him a mail can give my greetings to him.
> >
> >Prince Coker
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: astrid christensen-tasong
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 8:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY HAVE IT???
> >
> >
> > Essa & Sigga,
> >
> > This is the address that was posted as Yaya's email address. I don't
> >know
> > if it's the correct address but you can try.
> >
> > ALHAGI YAHYA A.J.J.JAMMEH
> > mailto:[log in to unmask]
> >
> > Astrid/
> >
> > >From: tester testers <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY HAVE IT???
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:44:45 -0700
> > >
> > >I AM SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF THIS ADDRESS. DOES ANYBODY
> > >HAVE IT. OR HIS PHONE NUMBER. IF ANYBODY'S GOT ONE
> > >OF THESE, PLEASE MAKE IT AVAILABLE. AT THIS JUNCTURE,
> > >MOST OF WHAT I HAVE IN ME, NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED TO HIM
> > >directly!!!
> > >
> > >THANK YOU COMRADES!!!
> > >
> > >ESSA THOMAS
> > >
> > >__________________________________________________
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This gathering will be a prelude to the larger one Saul and
others spoke about in postings, which we hope will be coordinated in a way
that Gambians all over the world will hold demonstrations the same and time.
Latjor
>
>Greetings:
>In reaction to the attrocities recently perpetrated on the students by the
>armed forces, an emergency meeting was convened late last night here in
>Washington DC.
>The outcome of the meeting was the following:
>
>1. Immediate action was called for to express our outrage over the
> slaughter of young Gambian lives.
> This will be in the form of a Demonstration!
> THIS FRIDAY, April 12 AT 10:00 AM
> at the Gambian Embassy in Washington DC!
> 1155 15th St. NW (Next to the Madison Hotel - 15th and L St)
> All Gambians residing in the area and friends of The Gambia are
>called to action.
>
>2. On Saturday, April 13th, there will be a community meeting.
> The purpose of the meeting will be:
> a) To develop a structural framework to better coordinate efforts
> within the community and other communities in the U.S.
> b) To disseminate up-to-date information to the general community
> about this incident and other objectives being developed.
> c) To develop a plan of action geared towards the ALD to address
> the need for a national Political Action Committee.
> d) To develop a strategy to address the immediate need for
> assistance for those individuals and families affected (medical,
> legal, ...)
> e) To develop a strategy to obtain timely and accurate information
> on the ground (Gambia)
>
> The place and time will be announced very soon. (Note: If you have a
>location you wish to suggest, please forward it to either of the names
>below
>or just post it on the list, or call.)
>
>No Justice No Peace!
>
>For the Ad Hoc Committee:
>Ousainou Mbenga
>Karamba Touray
>Latjor Ndow
>
>
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Hi there,
Those of us in the UK will there be a demonstration in London?
I live in Oxford and am not in a good position to spear head one
but count me and my friends we will be in london for a demonstration.
A.A.Drammeh
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Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 8:18 PM
Subject: Call to Action! - Washington DC
> Greetings:
> In reaction to the attrocities recently perpetrated on the students by the
> armed forces, an emergency meeting was convened late last night here in
> Washington DC.
> The outcome of the meeting was the following:
>
> 1. Immediate action was called for to express our outrage over the
> slaughter of young Gambian lives.
> This will be in the form of a Demonstration!
> THIS FRIDAY, April 12 AT 10:00 AM
> at the Gambian Embassy in Washington DC!
> 1155 15th St. NW (Next to the Madison Hotel - 15th and L St)
> All Gambians residing in the area and friends of The Gambia are
> called to action.
>
> 2. On Saturday, April 13th, there will be a community meeting.
> The purpose of the meeting will be:
> a) To develop a structural framework to better coordinate efforts
> within the community and other communities in the U.S.
> b) To disseminate up-to-date information to the general community
> about this incident and other objectives being developed.
> c) To develop a plan of action geared towards the ALD to address
> the need for a national Political Action Committee.
> d) To develop a strategy to address the immediate need for
> assistance for those individuals and families affected (medical,
> legal, ...)
> e) To develop a strategy to obtain timely and accurate information
> on the ground (Gambia)
>
> The place and time will be announced very soon. (Note: If you have a
> location you wish to suggest, please forward it to either of the names
below
> or just post it on the list, or call.)
>
> No Justice No Peace!
>
> For the Ad Hoc Committee:
> Ousainou Mbenga
> Karamba Touray
> Latjor Ndow
>
>
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40 Students Injured In Clash With Security Forces
April 12, 2000
BAMAKO, Mali (PANA) - At least 40 students at the University of Mali were
injured, some seriously, in clashes with security forces in Bamako.
The clashes broke out Tuesday when security forces tried to disperse the
students, who were staging a sit-in in front of the university's faculty of
legal and economic sciences, pressing for the payment of three months of
scholarship arrears.
The security men used tear gases to disperse the demonstrators who were also
blocking the road leading to the residence of Mali's president.
The demonstration follows a three-month strike by the Association of Malian
Pupils and Students, demanding improvement in working and study conditions.
The matter was resolved two weeks ago after the government provided the
students with more school buildings, libraries, equipment and sporting
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Karamba,
You forgot to give the name and addres of the bank which will be needed to
make a wire transfer. Thanks to all of you for your efforts.
Jabou Joh
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money to account number 109 320 4559 with routing number255071981. Please
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Gambia-L:
The amount of mail coming in regarding the Monday massacre even from the
silent subscribers is just impressive!
The pressure does not have to begin and end in demonstrations and petitions.
President Jammeh's government is recalcitrant, fool-hardy and suicidal to
say the least. It has to go! It is the duty of every Gambian to exercise
his/her civic right and vote the APRC out. Nothing personal; we're all just
getting tired of the debates. I still cannot fathom how Mr. Jammeh has in
less than a decade turned the clock back to the old political debates of
freedom of assembly and of association, bribery and corruption.
The cowardly shooting of rock-throwing children tells us the level of
paranoia he has succeeded in putting his security forces. I'm at a complete
loss as to who is who among them, anyway: Police, Fire-fighters, Police
Intervention Unit, Paramilitary Unit, oh I almost forgot, the dreaded July
22nd Youth Wing...
Every one of these forces has at one time or another abused, intimidated,
abducted, tortured or killed a Gambian citizen. And this with impunity!
Unless if I'm day-dreaming, I cannot see any justification for the APRC's
continued stay in power.
Hamadi.
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In a message dated 4/12/00 12:55:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< can a written letter be printed put and mailed to each of these
>organizations as well? generally, they are taken more seriously than
>e-mails (which are good too). Ylva
>
>On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Jabou Joh wrote: >>
**********************
You are right Ylva, a printed letter should also follow. I can mail out
printed letters if I have the addresses. I will look into getting the
addreses, and if anyone has them or a source, please forward also. Thanks.
Jabou Joh
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I don't think either of those two e-addresses are accurate, but Tombong
Saidy should be able to provide the list with his boss' correct e-mail
address(es).
May the souls of the deceased rest in eternal peace
"Injustice Anywhere is a Threat to Justice Everywhere"---MLK
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:29:54 +0100
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No reasonable person who is a Gambian, a resident in The Gambia, or who =
loves or knows the country will fail to condemn the actions of the army =
in the recent massacre. Had the army and police not intereferred with =
what probably began as a peaceful demonstration, it may have passed =
fairly quietly.
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The report featured in the Daily Observer yesterday (11 April) is =
nothing short of a government statement. It is offensive, and an insult =
to all those journalists who have put their necks on the line when =
reporting the truth. I understand that in today's issue they make no =
reference to the events of Monday.
Who gave the order for the army to open fire with live ammunition is not =
relevant. The ultimate responsibility lies with President Jammeh who =
has culpable responsibility. If he had a gramme of integrity and =
morality he would resign pending an election for his replacement. =
Having done his level best to ruin the economy of The Gambia, he is now =
determined, it seems, to ensure his citizens are robbed of any vestige =
of human rights that should be enjoyed in any democracy.
According to a posting in the guest book on the Gambianet web site, =
Jammeh's e-mail address is:
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I hope that many of you will direct your anger to him at that address.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No reasonable person who is a Gambian, =
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the=20
actions of the army in the recent massacre. Had the army and =
police=20
not intereferred with what probably began as a peaceful demonstration, =
it may=20
have passed fairly quietly.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The report featured in the Daily =
Observer yesterday=20
(11 April) is nothing short of a government statement. It is=20
offensive, and an insult to all those journalists who have put their =
necks on=20
the line when reporting the truth. I understand that in today's =
issue they=20
make no reference to the events of Monday.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Who gave the order for the army to open =
fire with=20
live ammunition is not relevant. The ultimate responsibility lies =
with=20
President Jammeh who has culpable responsibility. If he had a =
gramme of=20
integrity and morality he would resign pending an election for his=20
replacement. Having done his level best to ruin the economy of The =
Gambia,=20
he is now determined, it seems, to ensure his citizens are robbed of any =
vestige=20
of human rights that should be enjoyed in any democracy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>According to a posting in the guest =
book on the=20
Gambianet web site, Jammeh's e-mail address is:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope that many of you will direct =
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:46:12 PDT
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Hey Tombong,
I do not think anyone on this list cares to know where you are or what in
the hell you are doing.
You were you supposed to do what everyone who has posted something on the L
the past few has done except for Esaa ie Mr Ambassador in France. Express
some remorse Tombong.
God Bless and Peace Be Upon All
Alasana Bah
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>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 05:36:02 PDT
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>Prince,
>
>I am presently in Cannes, France with Bora Mboge attending MIP-TV 2000,
>television programmes market. I left The Gambia on Saturday and i will be
>back on Thursday.
>
>I cannot at this moment give any information other than what you have been
>reading.
>
>On my return. i will give some information.
>
>PEACE
>TOMBONG
>
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>>Subject: Attn: Shiek-Tejan and Tombong
>>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:54:32 +0200
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>>Please, give us more information of the happenings of the Students' demo.
>>The news is somewhat uncertain.
>>
>>Prince
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:26:35 -0400
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Fellow Gambians, I have some suggestions that each and everyone of us can
do to contribute to the master plan of achieving justice for the dead
students. Each one of us in our various communities can carry out one, or
more of these suggestions. For it is only when we all lend a hand that our
plan can be realized. Here they are:
(1) Get your phone books and telephone/E-mail everyone of your Gambian
friends and famillies who are presently residing outside of Gambia. First,
make sure they know all the details of the attrocities that are being
carried out in the Gambia from the begginning to the present. Then let
them know about all the courses of action suggested on the Gambia-l, and
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My deepest condolences to the families of all those who died in this
unneccssary carnage. I fully agree with the suggestion that we should do
something to express our disgust of what happened. We cannot just sit back
and let our small brothers and sisters die in vain. How cowardly can
anybody be to cold-bloodedly murder all those unarmed children? How dare
they call themselves soldiers? All the government facilities and all the
cars that were burnt will never be worth all those lives. What's happening
to Africa when every psychotic,stupid,shallow, deranged individual can
become a soldier and be given a gun. The saddest part is that our head of
state is just another psycho who happens to be in civilian clothes. Our
conscience should not let us watch our brothers and sisters die in vain
whilst there mothers and fathers remained in the safety of their homes.
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>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:52:13 GMT
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>All,
>
>In addition to all the wonderful suggestions made, why don't we coordinate
>a
>UNIVERSAL DEMONSTRATION against this barbaric regime? We pick a DATE in the
>next three/four weeks, select a LOCATION, and organize. All Gambians in the
>US could come down to DC, and we'll head for the embassy to register our
>disgust, and demands for the immediate resignation of this criminal govt.
>Gambians in the UK will do the same thing in London, and those in the other
>parts of the world will act likewise ON THE SAME DAY to achieve maximum
>impact. We have no problems flying cross country for the 4th of July, or
>ALD
>parties. What better cause to pay air tickets for, or to call in sick?
>
>PLEASE LET'S NOT LET OUR YOUNGER BROTHERS, SISTERS AND SONS DIE IN VAIN! WE
>CAN PULL THIS OFF. I KNOW IT!
>
>Saul.
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or we can just print them off e-mail. the point is to actually mail
something on paper which is harder to ignore than e-mail. Thanks Jabou,
Ylva
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Jabou Joh wrote:
> In a message dated 4/12/00 12:55:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> << can a written letter be printed put and mailed to each of these
> >organizations as well? generally, they are taken more seriously than
> >e-mails (which are good too). Ylva
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> >On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Jabou Joh wrote: >>
> **********************
> You are right Ylva, a printed letter should also follow. I can mail out
> printed letters if I have the addresses. I will look into getting the
> addreses, and if anyone has them or a source, please forward also. Thanks.
>
> Jabou Joh
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Latjorr,
I was thinking on the same line too. I only think that Friday is a short
notice. And secondly they close early on Friday. A better date would be some
time next week when everyone could be informed and the few in the surrounding
states too may have time to get in town.
Just a suggestion.
Ousman Bojang.
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Hi!
I have worked on a draft of the petition to be sent to various =
organisations as requested by Abdoulie Saine. Please feel free to come =
up with suggestions and critique.=20
=
Buharry.
_________________________________________________________________________=
____________
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Dear Sir/Madam,
A very tragic chapter in the history of our =
beloved nation, The Gambia, occurred on the 10th. And 11th. April 2000 =
when security forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least 28 =
people including a Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, =
during an unarmed demonstration organised by students. The students were =
protesting the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by =
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request you and =
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:
- instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;=20
- release all the students currently under detention;
- release the names of those killed and release their bodies to =
their relatives for proper burial;
- launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances surrounding it;
- ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with according to the provisions of the law;
- instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
during demonstrations slated for next week;
- ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry =
and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the =
law without undue delay;
- ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution =
of The Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of =
which The Gambia is a signatory;
=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter of =
matters, we take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
organization for your concern.
=
Sincerely,
=
Concerned Citizens of The Gambia.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2> I have worked on a draft of the =
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<P align=3Dcenter class=3DMsoTitle><U>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN</U></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify">Dear Sir/Madam,<SPAN=20
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</SPAN>A very tragic chapter in the history of our beloved nation, The =
Gambia,=20
occurred on the 10<SUP>th</SUP>. And 11<SUP>th</SUP>. April 2000 when =
security=20
forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least 28 people =
including a Red=20
Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, during an unarmed =
demonstration=20
organised by students. The students were protesting the torture and =
murder of a=20
fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a =
13-year=20
old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students =
have=20
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children=20
are among the dead or imprisoned.</P>
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undersigned, as=20
concerned citizens, respectfully request you and your organization to =
keep=20
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relatives for proper burial;</P>
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circumstances=20
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</SPAN>ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive =
force=20
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
the=20
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</SPAN>instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint during =
demonstrations slated for next week;</P>
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style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
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Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and =
the rape=20
of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law without =
undue=20
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style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
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</SPAN>ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution of =
The=20
Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of which =
The=20
Gambia is a signatory;</P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify">While awaiting your =
kind=20
co-operation in this most urgent of matter of matters, we take the =
opportunity=20
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 23:58:22 +0200
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Korro,
I wonder when people shall begin to be more demokratic. The Gambians in
Stockholm are not ready to come together because of some personal reasons. I see
no need for such a conference when we are not democratic in our actions. We are
not more than a thousand. We should consider honesty the best policy. Most of
the bush intelects of the O.G.I.S. are papper tigers. Remember Mao said "a frog
in a well says that the mouth of the well seems to be bigger than the sky."
There should be a proper auditning before the freezed amount is defreezed. I
have red som of the reports and the socalld pappers written by people who just
join the organisation to suit their purpose. All the houling about the lawer(
Pota Poff). How far has he gone? What has he achieved? Have the bigmouths solved
the problems? They are still the same, and we are back to null again. What a
scandal!
-Reese
fatou wrote:
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Kabir,
Thanks for expressing my thoughts. And Tombong better take heed of your
advice. I just came from my doctor because my blood pressure had risen
dangerously high because of how pissed I have been in the last 48hrs. This
Yaya Jammeh dogs ought to be thankful that this is cyberspace! Believe me.
Otherwise, some of us will go to jail, but you'll all be saying something
else. People like Tombong make me so sick I can't wait to confront some of
them in person. I'm so pissed at these barbarians I can't even eat right.
But like they say "every dog has it's day!" We'll get people like Tombong.
We will.
Saul.
> > Tombong
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>We are not in the mood for your nonsense. I think Madiba, being the
>gentleman that he is, has even been too lenient on you. There are those of
>us who would prefer to do it without gloves on.
>
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Hi!
Basiru Ndow wrote:
> "We also need volunteers in the Gambia to help in the immediate and
> unconditional release of all the detained students.. May be this is the
> time for some Gambian lawyers to intervene."
>
I would suggest that we take contact with Emmanuel Joof who was, I believe,
the only lawyer to take the government to task over the Denton Bridge
affair. I see that he was among the human rights activists who condemned the
student massacres. I read about another human rights worker who has the
surname Jallow in one the reports posted here these days condemning the
atrocities. Does anyone know his first name? What do you think?
Buharry.
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Dear Buharry:
This is a fine letter. Let's go with it.
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William:
Well said!
Abdoulaye
WILLIAM NJIE wrote:
>
> Goodness! Where do they find the likes of you,
> Ambassador? You want us to be greatful for you doing
> your freaking job? Like Yusupha said, your timing
> can't be more off. You chose a time of grief to tell
> us what you are doing for the Gambian students. If we
> could trade those material things for the lives of
> the students, we will. I understand you're trying to
> defend yourself from the accusations, but for crying
> out loud, shove the material things.
>
> I do not condemn anyone for accepting a position with
> the current governmnent but you have to be ready to
> share the blame if shit hits the fan. Personally, my
> conscience will not allow me to work in an environment
> that goes against my principles, but hey, that is just
> me.
>
> I am sick and tired of hearing Yaya referring to the
> country as "his"; sick and tired of the likes of you
> expect us to be greatful for doing your jobs; sick and
> tired of the govt. servants (especially the police,
> military, fire) act as if they don't work for the tax
> payers but for Yaya; sick and tired of the lack of
> accountability from the government; sick and tired of
> the human right violations, which usually goes
> unpurnished; and frankly just freaking sick and tired.
> Reality check, you, Yaya and everyone that earns their
> paychecks from the tax payers, are just hired help.
> You work for the people.
>
> I do not know you, so I will not judge you, but as
> long as you continue to hold that position and any
> other Govt. position, you should be ready to take the
> heat especially if you're ready to defend the actions
> of the regime. I guess the military, police, and fire
> are not under the government anymore, or do you think
> we are just plain stupid. Unless the students had guns
> shooting at innocent unarmed people, (which from what
> I have been reading they did not) I want to hear
> anyone try to justify what happened on Monday.
>
> If you cannot provide us answers, don't try to shift
> the blame, especially not to the students.
>
> William.
>
> --- Essa Sey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Your "excellency" Bokarr Sey, it is absolutely
> > shocking and sad that you have
> > chosen this moment to further your government's
> > cause. As an official
> > representative of the Gambia govt, you should have
> > joined all of us in
> > condemning what happened today. Instead you chose to
> > represent yourself and
> > govt by using half truths and half baked statements.
> >
> > In your attempt to dissociate the regime from
> > today's tragic incident you
> > state:
> > Quote
> > I want to put it you personally that there is no one
> > amongst us serving under
> > Jammeh and Jammeh himself who would be so
> > irresponsible to order the massacre
> > of students
> > Unquote
> >
> > In response to this statement, my question is
> > whether the top military
> > commanders in the GNA do not serve under Jammeh?
> > Unless the military chain
> > of command has completely crumbled, your statement,
> > coming from the Gambian
> > Ambassador to France, should be considered as a
> > shameful attempt to cover the
> > truth.
> >
> > In your continuing bumbled attempt to defend I don't
> > know what, you state:
> > Quote
> > I want those of you whirling accusations to know
> > that some of those students
> > who lost their lives are closely related to people
> > working under Jammeh.Some
> > are related to Jammeh himself. Did you know that?
> > Unquote
> >
> > This statement is not relevant in relation to what
> > happened today. As far as
> > most of us are concerned, all that counts is that
> > innocent students were
> > killed today. I even doubt the validity of the
> > statement you made since
> > there is no evidence to support your claims.
> >
> > Unfortunately, you have chosen this time to defend
> > your regime. But history
>
> Mr. Jow and co.
> >
> > My choice was carefully
> > calculated and i am equally shocked by the way i see
> > some of you try to "forcefully" put people into
> > positions that simple logic repells.There is no
> > shame in trying to remind brothers and sisters to
> > jointly see the issue at hand as a national
> > tragedy,after all.However, you reserve the right to
> > interprete my wriring as you wish.
> >
> > The same deliberate and subjective judgements are
> > raining on me now,this was obviously what i
> > expected.Mr Jow i am in no way trying to exonerate
> > any person or regime.My point is simple and straight
> > forward and i maintain it.One of the children who
> > died is my relative believe me or not thats your
> > opinion and you have the right to either reject or
> > accept what i say.
> >
> > Mr Jow please note that i practicalise my support
> > for those poor students by lobbying for support from
> > all quarters.A ontainer full of chairs,exercise
> > books,wheel chairs etc that has been loaded from a
> > city called Dieppe in France is on the to the
> > Gambia.I collaborated with Alhaji soriba Gassama(the
> > former president of the supreme islamic council) to
> > get those materials transported to schools and
> > clinics in the Gambia.
> >
> > Thats only to let you know a bit of what i am doing
> > for students in the Gambia.You can call soriba
> > Gassama to find out.Part of my priorities as
> > Ambassador is to do a ot for our school children.One
> > of the dossiers on my desk now is to look into the
> > possibilties for vocational training in favour of
> > Gambians in the canary islands.This is just to let
> > you know that your attempts to deliberately say
> > that i am not on the side of the students is FALSE
> > and intended to politicise the situation.
> >
> > My father was a teacher and died a teacher like
> > yours and both of them we should pray for to rest in
> > peace.So Mr Jow my position is not to apply
> > cosmetics but is rather intended to let you feel
> > that no one in the Gvt.will enjoy seeing students
> > being killed please lets argue reasonably.
> >
> > My intention is not to be playing a merry go-round
> > game with anyone on the forum,however, my believe is
> > that there is no shame as Ambassador to exchange
> > views with anyone on such important issues.
> >
> > Essa Bokarr SEY.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > has been the best judge of tyrants and their
> > coconspirators. Time will tell!
> >
> >
> > Yus
> >
> >
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Soul,
I think the best demonstration would be for the civil servants to stay at
home for a whole week if possible months call it a government shotdown, the
idiot cannot run the country by himself. If the students can do it so can
the government workers, this is my opinion, and I think it will work. My
condonlence to the families that lost their love one and to all Gambians.
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>All,
>
>In addition to all the wonderful suggestions made, why don't we coordinate
>a
>UNIVERSAL DEMONSTRATION against this barbaric regime? We pick a DATE in the
>next three/four weeks, select a LOCATION, and organize. All Gambians in the
>US could come down to DC, and we'll head for the embassy to register our
>disgust, and demands for the immediate resignation of this criminal govt.
>Gambians in the UK will do the same thing in London, and those in the other
>parts of the world will act likewise ON THE SAME DAY to achieve maximum
>impact. We have no problems flying cross country for the 4th of July, or
>ALD
>parties. What better cause to pay air tickets for, or to call in sick?
>
>PLEASE LET'S NOT LET OUR YOUNGER BROTHERS, SISTERS AND SONS DIE IN VAIN! WE
>CAN PULL THIS OFF. I KNOW IT!
>
>Saul.
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I will be one of those willing to join the ad-hoc committee. Brothers, and
sister, we must act now. Dictator yahya jemus must go.
Comrade,
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Latjor:
You can count me in the ad-hoc committee. Please let me ahead of time
whenever you intend to meet.
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Hi Folks,
Now that we have a petition draft, those wishing to have their name
appended can do so by contacting Yankuba Njie. I have appended mine, as
well as kotos Abdoulaye and Buharry's.
Thanks Buharry for your efforts.
With best regards,
Madiba.
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Dear Sir/Madam,
A very tragic chapter in the history of our =
beloved nation, The Gambia, occurred on the 10th. and 11th. April 2000 =
when security forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least 28 =
people including a Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, =
during an unarmed demonstration organised by students. The students were =
protesting the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by =
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request you and =
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:
- instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;=20
- release all the students currently under detention;
- release the names of those killed and release their bodies to =
their relatives for proper burial;
- launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances surrounding it;
- ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with according to the provisions of the law;
- instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
during demonstrations slated for next week;
- ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry =
and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the =
law without undue delay;
- ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution =
of The Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of =
which The Gambia is a signatory;
=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter of =
matters, we take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
organization for your concern.
=
Sincerely,
1. Momodou Buharry Gassama, Stockhohm, Sweden.
2. Dr. Abdoulaye Saine, Oxford, Ohio, USA.
3. Dr. Madiba Saidy, Vancouver, Canada.
4.
5.
6.
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Kabir, Siga, Saul et al.,
My sentiments exactly! Let him go ahead and sue me for defamation of
"character".... I'll be home in December (for a couple of weeks).
Instead of condoling the families of the deceased, the moron rather
had the testicular fortitude to tell us that he is in Cannes,
France. Who gives a rat's ass?! Some people just make me sick!!
Regards,
Madiba Saidy (Hell, no!!! relation to Tombong Saidy)
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Amadu Kabir Njie wrote:
> Tombong, ex-revolutionary!
>
>
> We are not in the mood for your nonsense. I think Madiba, being the
> gentleman that he is, has even been too lenient on you. There are those of
> us who would prefer to do it without gloves on.
>
> So drop it before we come at you with all we've got. And stop signing your
> mails with the word "Peace" and try "Justice", but first open your
> dictionary, or better still ask one of those valiant school children of the
> Gambia what the word really means so that you can cease abusing it.
>
> I bet Yaya Jammeh does not need any toilet paper 'cause he's got the likes
> of you!
>
> Kabir.
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The name of the bank is Chevy Chase. Again for those of you wishing to make a
quick bank transfer, the account number is 1093204559, routing number is
255071981.
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Madiba,
Can you please repost Yankuba Njie's email address?
Thanks and regards.
Kabir
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Sent: 13. april 2000 01:37
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> Hi Folks,
>
> Now that we have a petition draft, those wishing to have their name
> appended can do so by contacting Yankuba Njie. I have appended mine, as
> well as kotos Abdoulaye and Buharry's.
>
> Thanks Buharry for your efforts.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Madiba.
> -------
>
>
> TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
>
> Dear Sir/Madam,
>
> A very tragic chapter in the history of our =
> beloved nation, The Gambia, occurred on the 10th. and 11th. April 2000 =
> when security forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least 28 =
> people including a Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, =
> during an unarmed demonstration organised by students. The students were =
> protesting the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by =
> Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
> Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
> arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
> among the dead or imprisoned.
>
> We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request you and =
> your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
> immediately:
>
> - instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of =
> force against civilians;=20
>
> - release all the students currently under detention;
>
> - release the names of those killed and release their bodies to =
> their relatives for proper burial;
>
> - launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
> circumstances surrounding it;
>
> - ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
> excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
> with according to the provisions of the law;
>
> - instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
> during demonstrations slated for next week;
>
> - ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry =
> and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the =
> law without undue delay;
>
> - ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution =
> of The Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of =
> which The Gambia is a signatory;
>
> =20
>
> While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter of =
> matters, we take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
> organization for your concern.
>
> =
> Sincerely,
>
> 1. Momodou Buharry Gassama, Stockhohm, Sweden.
> 2. Dr. Abdoulaye Saine, Oxford, Ohio, USA.
> 3. Dr. Madiba Saidy, Vancouver, Canada.
> 4.
> 5.
> 6.
> 7.
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Folks,
This is from the GRTS News. Looks like Mr. Interior Secretary is looking =
for a student with a life bullet in the back to confirm for him! What a =
pity.=20
Malanding Jaiteh
GRTS RADIO NEWS: THURSDAY 13TH APRIL 2000=20
The Interior Secretary Ousman Badgie has denied allegations that =
security forces fired life bullets on demonstrators on Monday. Speaking =
to GRTS yesterday in his office, he said security commanders have =
confirmed that their orders to their forces were to use rubber bullets =
and tear gas only to put down the demonstrations. He said the =
information they got from intelligence reports was that there were =
civilians who were armed with guns. Mr. Badgie said they are yet to =
confirm whether the deaths were caused by life bullets, and they are =
waiting for reports from pathologists who are examining the bodies of =
victims. But he challenged anyone who can confirm that security forces =
used life bullets to report the matter to relevant authorities. The =
Interior Secretary said the demonstration called by the Gambia Students =
Union did not receive permission from the police, because the students =
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<P align=3Dleft>Malanding Jaiteh
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Kabir,
Kuba's email address is: [log in to unmask]
Good night.
Madiba.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Amadu Kabir Njie wrote:
> Madiba,
>
> Can you please repost Yankuba Njie's email address?
>
> Thanks and regards.
>
> Kabir
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Malanding,
Don't mind the a**hole! Their actions and utterances will forever remain
tatooed in our brains. We will deal with them all at the appropriate
time.
They are the top dogs today, but, "every dog has his/its day"!
Regards,
Madiba.
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Malanding S. Jaiteh wrote:
> Folks,
>
> This is from the GRTS News. Looks like Mr. Interior Secretary is looking for a student with a life bullet in the back to confirm for him! What a pity.
>
> Malanding Jaiteh
>
> GRTS RADIO NEWS: THURSDAY 13TH APRIL 2000
>
> The Interior Secretary Ousman Badgie has denied allegations that security forces fired life bullets on demonstrators on Monday. Speaking to GRTS yesterday in his office, he said security commanders have confirmed that their orders to their forces were to use rubber bullets and tear gas only to put down the demonstrations. He said the information they got from intelligence reports was that there were civilians who were armed with guns. Mr. Badgie said they are yet to confirm whether the deaths were caused by life bullets, and they are waiting for reports from pathologists who are examining the bodies of victims. But he challenged anyone who can confirm that security forces used life bullets to report the matter to relevant authorities. The Interior Secretary said the demonstration called by the Gambia Students Union did not receive permission from the police, because the students refused to pick the permit from them.
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Latjorr,
This is the second time I am writing to suggest anther date further down next
week so that a lot of people could be available. Due to the past experience
of last two demonstrations at the embassy, I hope you all heed to this so
that we could get a lot more people. Also if it is that long, may be we could
coordinate with the other people in other parts of the world.
I think if the demonstrations are staged on the same day around the world, it
might also have more impact. I would also urge those in Europe and elsewhere
to contact their local/international media outlets to carry the story.
I hope we all act together and hope the oppositions are looking forward to do
something with us. It is wonderful to write papers and address the situation,
but it is high time they come to terms with the reality.
Ousman Bojang.
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I am calling all the oppositions to come together and fight Jammeh out. Yes,
we all do have different principles and ideologies, but I think it is in the
interest of the nation. I have no doubt that if they could all come together
and with and few dollars/pounds and what ever financial support Jammeh will
go.
I hope they think of this properly. Let us all join and boot this guy out. It
is going to be a great disservice to our nation to sit around separated and
keep Jammeh and his tugs like Essa and Tombong killing our people.
Ousman Bojang
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I hope they will not sit on the pathologist's report as they did in =
Korro Ceesay's death.You will ever believe these sick ministers?
Mori
----- Original Message -----=20
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Folks,=20
This is from the GRTS News. Looks like Mr. Interior Secretary is looking =
for a student with a life bullet in the back to confirm for him! What a =
pity.=20
Malanding Jaiteh=20
GRTS RADIO NEWS: THURSDAY 13TH APRIL 2000=20
The Interior Secretary Ousman Badgie has denied allegations that =
security forces fired life bullets on demonstrators on Monday. Speaking =
to GRTS yesterday in his office, he said security commanders have =
confirmed that their orders to their forces were to use rubber bullets =
and tear gas only to put down the demonstrations. He said the =
information they got from intelligence reports was that there were =
civilians who were armed with guns. Mr. Badgie said they are yet to =
confirm whether the deaths were caused by life bullets, and they are =
waiting for reports from pathologists who are examining the bodies of =
victims. But he challenged anyone who can confirm that security forces =
used life bullets to report the matter to relevant authorities. The =
Interior Secretary said the demonstration called by the Gambia Students =
Union did not receive permission from the police, because the students =
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<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D-1>This is from the GRTS =
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He said=20
the information they got from intelligence reports was that there were =
civilians=20
who were armed with guns. Mr. Badgie said they are yet to confirm =
whether=20
the deaths were caused by life bullets, and they are waiting for reports =
from=20
pathologists who are examining the bodies of victims. But he challenged =
anyone=20
who can confirm that security forces used life bullets to report the =
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Wednesday, 12 April, 2000, 14:57 GMT 15:57 UK
Senegal army repulses rebels
Three Senegalese soldiers and around 15 separatist rebels have been killed
during an armed rebel attack on a military post on the border with
Guinea-Bissau, according to the Senegalese army.
The incident took place in the Casamance region, where the Casamance
Movement of Democratic Forces has been fighting for independence from the
central government for nearly 20 years.
A statement from the Senegalese military said that the military border post
of Sare Wali was attacked early on Tuesday.
It said "the aggressors" were pushed back over the border into
Guinea-Bissau.
There was no immediate comment from the rebels, and the military's claims
could not be independently verified.
Peace priority
President Abdoulaye Wade has made peace in Casamance a priority of his new
government, and rebel leader Reverend Diamacoune Senghor has said the
election of a new president could lead to a breakthrough in the conflict.
Mr Wade's election last month ended the 40-year rule of the Socialist Party,
which had governed since independence from France in 1960.
More than 1,200 people have been killed since the Casamance rebellion began
in the early 1980s.
A ceasefire was agreed in December 1999 but rebels tried to disrupt the
presidential elections and violence has continued since.
The rebels, who reportedly receive military aid from Guinea-Bissau, claim
Casamance was never colonised by the French as part of Senegal and so should
remain independent - a claim disputed by France
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Karamba what is the ABA number of this bank?
Mori
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> The name of the bank is Chevy Chase. Again for those of you wishing to
make a
> quick bank transfer, the account number is 1093204559, routing number is
> 255071981.
>
> Thanks Karamba
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Buharry,
perfect draft. Without delay, could the IT experts explain how we will
add our signatures to this draft and deluge the whole world with the
monstrous crimes against humanity that had besieged the Gambia for the past
few days.
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Ziz,
What is it with the UK crew? Seems like the folks in good Ole Uncle Sam
are far ready to take up their civic duties than their UK cousins? What's up
UK folks? Can we start rattling the cage now please and make ourselves heard?
Ziz you know the score from this end. When it comes to it, you and I can
just picket the High Commission gates/doors and personally deliver our copies
of the Gambia-L Petition drafted by Buharry.
I await your warm response.
Hamjatta Kanteh
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Mori,
I don't know what that abbreviation means. I am told an account
number plus a routing number and the bank name would be able to effect a wire
transfer. But if you run into any problems , please call me at 301 890 4704.
Karamba
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Katim, the AB no is the number between the two symbols that kinda look like "colons." The number should be the nine digits usually to the left of the actual account number.
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Yus,
I guess that is what i referred to as the routing number. At any rate the
account number is 1093204559 and the AB is 255071981
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Dear God:
Does it matter what the murder weapons are? These students were gunned down
in cold blood be it with live ammunition or rubber bullets. The pill is not
any easier to swallow.
The sheer disregard and insensitivity coming from government quarters is
appauling.
There should not be business as usual -while the country mourns?.
My prayers go out to the families whose children paid the ultimate price.
Dagmar Christensen
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>Folks,
>
>This is from the GRTS News. Looks like Mr. Interior Secretary is looking
>for a student with a life bullet in the back to confirm for him! What a
>pity.
>
>Malanding Jaiteh
>
>GRTS RADIO NEWS: THURSDAY 13TH APRIL 2000
>
>The Interior Secretary Ousman Badgie has denied allegations that security
>forces fired life bullets on demonstrators on Monday. Speaking to GRTS
>yesterday in his office, he said security commanders have confirmed that
>their orders to their forces were to use rubber bullets and tear gas only
>to put down the demonstrations. He said the information they got from
>intelligence reports was that there were civilians who were armed with
>guns. Mr. Badgie said they are yet to confirm whether the deaths were
>caused by life bullets, and they are waiting for reports from pathologists
>who are examining the bodies of victims. But he challenged anyone who can
>confirm that security forces used life bullets to report the matter to
>relevant authorities. The Interior Secretary said the demonstration called
>by the Gambia Students Union did not receive permission from the police,
>because the students refused to pick the permit from them.
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the routing number is the same as the aba number.
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>Mori,
> I don't know what that abbreviation means. I am told an account
>number plus a routing number and the bank name would be able to effect a
>wire
>transfer. But if you run into any problems , please call me at 301 890
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It kinda look like most people are missing the point.
Entrusting this government to investigate has no essence.
They (the junta) have already found their scapegoats (GAMSU).
Using the tax dalasis our people were robbed off; invested in a
no good venture like the GTRS..our people are been further
traumatise by adding injury to insult.
If it is true that isatu njie saidy conveyed the final message from
jjemus junkung to his animals on the ground then one must be
tempted and even justify to ask this woman.....what kind of mother is she?
the kind that for the love of power would allow the shooting of innocent
children...who are exercising their constitutional rights to freedom of
assembly.But again come to think of it...that doesn't exist in the
Gambia.
It is amazing how people change. A few years ago Tombong Saidy stood
up to fafa jawara;was appointed head of mission cos jemus like what
he saw in this man. This is somebody who can spin issues for him when
the going gets tough.Thats exactly what he is been doing folks....getting
paid for spinning off the intolerable events.It Is a shame; but now he got
a brother in the person of ambassador Essa sey.Its no use beating on
a dead horse .I won't bother to waste time on the callousness of the
ambassador's attitude.
may the souls of the departed rest in peace.
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The ABA and the routing number are the same (American Bankers Assoc)
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> Mori,
> I don't know what that abbreviation means. I am told an account
> number plus a routing number and the bank name would be able to effect a wire
> transfer. But if you run into any problems , please call me at 301 890 4704.
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Dagma
I totally agree
and even your brother George risked his life to save many students
and guess what they are trying to shut his station down. If aunty Diana was
around they would not dare come close. May her soul rest in peace
What bothers me most is the blatant violation of the basic rights of families to
bury the dead as prescribed . How can someone disregard the families at this
time of grief?
It beats me and beyond my wildest imagination
Habib
adama jombel wrote:
> Dear God:
> Does it matter what the murder weapons are? These students were gunned down
> in cold blood be it with live ammunition or rubber bullets. The pill is not
> any easier to swallow.
> The sheer disregard and insensitivity coming from government quarters is
> appauling.
> There should not be business as usual -while the country mourns?.
> My prayers go out to the families whose children paid the ultimate price.
> Dagmar Christensen
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> >From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <[log in to unmask]>
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> >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:11:53 -0400
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> >Folks,
> >
> >This is from the GRTS News. Looks like Mr. Interior Secretary is looking
> >for a student with a life bullet in the back to confirm for him! What a
> >pity.
> >
> >Malanding Jaiteh
> >
> >GRTS RADIO NEWS: THURSDAY 13TH APRIL 2000
> >
> >The Interior Secretary Ousman Badgie has denied allegations that security
> >forces fired life bullets on demonstrators on Monday. Speaking to GRTS
> >yesterday in his office, he said security commanders have confirmed that
> >their orders to their forces were to use rubber bullets and tear gas only
> >to put down the demonstrations. He said the information they got from
> >intelligence reports was that there were civilians who were armed with
> >guns. Mr. Badgie said they are yet to confirm whether the deaths were
> >caused by life bullets, and they are waiting for reports from pathologists
> >who are examining the bodies of victims. But he challenged anyone who can
> >confirm that security forces used life bullets to report the matter to
> >relevant authorities. The Interior Secretary said the demonstration called
> >by the Gambia Students Union did not receive permission from the police,
> >because the students refused to pick the permit from them.
> >
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:55:17 -0700
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Hamjatta,
Yankuba Njie aka Pope Pope has volunteered to append names (signatures) to
the petition draft. Please send him an email at [log in to unmask] if you
wish to add your signature. This is necessary in order to save bandwidth.
Once a decent number of names have been added (hopefully in a couple of
days or so), he will post the final version for our perusal before we send
it out.
Regards,
Madiba.
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> Buharry,
> perfect draft. Without delay, could the IT experts explain how we will
> add our signatures to this draft and deluge the whole world with the
> monstrous crimes against humanity that had besieged the Gambia for the past
> few days.
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Could you guys keep the New York group [Movement for the Restoration of
democracy in the Gambia] posted on any activities planned, as the "system"
will only pay heed to our concerns, if we turn out in the thousands.
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Madiba,
Will do so forthwith. Thanks for the direction and bless you.
Hamjatta
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Mr. Njie,
Put my name on the list!
Saul Saidykhan
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I forwarded Ebrima's piece on poverty eradication to a friend who is
a Ugandan and below is his response.
Tom
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Hi all,
This is my response to Ebima. I don't know how well he
understands Ugandan history. But if he does then he
misrepresented the facts. There is no double standards on this
issue by the west. In Uganda today, we enjoy the best African type
of democracy. To say that Uganda is a one party state shows how
little he understands our system of government. We don't have
parties. All party activities are banned. We all belong to a
movement system whereby anyone is allowed to stand for office on
his/her own merit rather than voting so and so because he/she is
from labour party rather than Alliance despite his/her short-
comings. We vote according to capability. Is the individual
capable? If by any chance he/she is incapable for one reason or
the other, the electorate has the right to recall by a vote of no
confidence. Other than the government, where else in the world
does this type of democracy exist. Not even at the cradle of it in
UK where you can change parties and still represent the people
who did not vote for you.
>
> And talking about Western double standards, let me inform you that
> while your Foreign Minister, Robin Cook, is calling on President
> Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe to hold multi-party elections in Zimbabwe in
> May 2000, as scheduled, there is in fact a country in Africa, Uganda,
> which is still a one-party state, and yet, as far as I know, Mr Cook
> is not saying anything about it.
>
> In Uganda, opposition parties are banned, but the West has never
> complained about it. In fact, didn't President Bill Clinton visit
> Uganda in 1999, during his Africa tour? Well, let me now tell you why
> the West refuses to take President Museveni of Uganda to task: The
> Western Governments like President Museveni because he is a strong
> defender/proponent of IMF and World policies in Africa, period.
To say that President Clinton also visited Uganda in 1999 is
another sign that Ebima does not understand what takes place in
Uganda. I think there few African leaders who can take a stance
and stick to it. In uganda there have been some IMF policies which
the government has refused to implement and some which have
been reenegotiated. So it is a matter of leaders standing up and
explaining in unequivocal terms to the west what they want. The
west will listen.
Another reason is that since 1971 Uganda has been in turmoil until
1986 when Museveni came to power. It is the same parties which
were involved so with their participation in violence how can
someone be sympathetic.
In 1996, there was presidential elections whereby anyone was
allowed to stand, Museveni won.
Freedom of speech is very important and anyone can say what
she/he likes so some opposition politicians have won seats and
sad bad things about Museveni, but they still live in Uganda, not in
prison as it used to be, so how can someone who understands our
history advocate for political parties?
>
> Anyway, let me conclude on a brighter observation; by saying that in
> any case, those of us who are here, should, all the same, thank God,
> because despite all these minuses in Western Societies that I have
> cited, ranging from abject poverty, multiple crimes to homelessness,
> the Western World, in my honest view, still offers more opportunities
> for man than other places in the world.
Doesn't the above paragraph really say much about his inclination?
>
> Yes, the system here doesn't favour minorities, especially blacks, but
> one can still find consolation in the fact that a man/woman can push
> some of these prejudices and discrimination behind him/her and do well
> for himself and his family.
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Ous,
My apologies for not responding earlier. I was busy outside the net.
Your point is well taken and was certainly addressed during the meeting.
However, we are convinced that we cannot wait another day. We want to serve
notice to the officials that their recent murderous actions will not be
tolerated or accepted!
We are planning a meeting on saturday to begin preparations for the second
round of actions which will involve the wider mobilization currently being
discussed.
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Thanks for that reply Lat. keep me posted on the meeting for Saturday. I will
certainly be there. The Friday notice is kind of too short for me, but I will
try to be there. I hope a lot of people attend. I would hate to see them say
again that only a few "disgruntle" Gambians demonstrated.
However, it is the message that matters most.
Ousman Bojang.
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Latjor,
I think it was great that such an emergency meeting was convened here in
Washington. Most importantly, developing any strategies that will provide an
immediate assistance for those individuals and families affected by this
tragedy is a worthy cause. This is and has been my major concern since the
news of the massacre unfolded. Thus, I personally commend you and the members
of the ad hoc committee for taking this bold step. I will contact Karamba for
my personal contribution. Moreover, I will direct more people to him and
undoubtedly spread the word around.
Meanwhile, my heart goes to GAMSU. I do fully remember my days in Gambia
College when this student body was launched to replace the old NUGS. I hope,
Gambians will extend their moral, legal and financial support to the
executive committee of GAMSU in order to better assist them in finishing
their agenda. Intimidation of students through arbitrary arrests and
detention continue. This must stop. And those arrested/detained must be
released immediately.
S. S. Saidykhan
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Everyone at L,
We are currently working with Amnesty
International in sending a fact finding delegation to
the Gambia.This delegation would include two Gambians
whose responsibilities will include contact with
victims families and the hand over of any donations
from us.
We want to move as quickly as we possibly
can,so your urgent action is highly welcome,before all
vital evidence is buried by coverups and
denials,evidence of which we are getting as reported
by eye witnesses.
Please send all donations however small to these
locations.
Wire transfers only:EASTERN FINANCIAL FEDERAL CREDIT
UNION.A/C #9296492200.
All mail donations to.
Gammbian Victims Families
P.O.BOX 863
1480 Terell Mill Road
Marietta,Ga,30067
USA
We are appealing to all people around the
globe,especiall our African American brothers and our
brothers in the Careabian on this tragic situation.
May our children's souls rest in peace.
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Karamba/All,
I'm sending my contribution to Soffie, but having talked with some people,
this idea of contributing to a Legal Defence Fund for the students is
flawed. Why?
The students have done nothing to be prosecuted for. They tried to exercise
their constitutional rights to hold a peaceful demo, and were denied that
right. And then they were provoked, beaten, and manhandled by
govt-sanctioned thugs! Consequently, the death and destruction that ensued
should be laid squarely on the shoulders of the govt provocateurs! If anyone
needs to defend anything in this predictable mess, it's Yaya Jammeh and his
goons! THEY ought to be in the dock! If we hire lawyers to defend these
kids, several things will happen:
1. We will legitimize an inherently illegitimate exercise just by merely
recognizing their fraudulent judicial proceedings!
2. We will play into Yaya Jammeh's hands! I swear to my mother's life, he
will have these kids convicted by his kangaroo courts, and then he'll turn
around and "FORGIVE" them. Why should this boffoon be allowed the luxury of
taking credit for freeing students who should never have been arrested in
the first place? You get my drift? If we let these kids be prosecuted, Yaya
will win. Any way the case ends, Yaya wins. On the one hand, he assures the
world that he is in "control," and on the other hand, he appeases desperate
parents by "saving" their children from going to jail. Think of Samuel Doe
and the five/six teachers he "saved" from the firing squad back in 1982.
Yaya will turn this tragedy into another cheap propaganda stunt, and it will
be business as usual! We just can't let that happen.
This whole ineffable tragedy is nothing but govt-sanctioned massacre! The
least we can do is demand the IMMEDIATE and UNCONDITIONAL RELEASE of all
arrested students! No exceptions! The immediate release of all dead bodies
etc, etc. The money collected should go to the bereaved families, the
wounded/hospitalized students, and GAMSU. Let these fools jail our students
and see how it feels to be a pariah state. The lies being told by Ousman
Badgie and others is an indication of how scared and paranoid these rascals
are. If we don't take a firm stance against the arrest and detention of
these poor kids, this case will become a replica of Ousman Korro Ceesay's.
Just think about it.
Saul.
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Saul,
My exact sentiments.
The most disgusting thing is that while all this is happening, the moron is
still in Cuba as if nothing is going on! If he really cares about the future
of the country, he should IMMEDIATELY RETURN to the Gambia. Just as those
heartless, ruthless ministers out there trying to shift the blame to GAMSU.
None of them cares about the future of the country. If they are competent
enough to carry out their duties as they are trying to show us, this tragedy
would not have happened in the first place. It would have been handled in a
manner better than what we have seen.
By God, let them have some remorse. That's the least they can do for the
innocent lives they've snatched and their families.
Alpha,
Your poem was great. I hardly held my tears reading it. Keep it up.
Abdoulie A. Jallow
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Karamba/All,
I'm sending my contribution to Soffie, but having talked with some people,
this idea of contributing to a Legal Defence Fund for the students is
flawed. Why?
The students have done nothing to be prosecuted for. They tried to exercise
their constitutional rights to hold a peaceful demo, and were denied that
right. And then they were provoked, beaten, and manhandled by
govt-sanctioned thugs! Consequently, the death and destruction that ensued
should be laid squarely on the shoulders of the govt provocateurs! If anyone
needs to defend anything in this predictable mess, it's Yaya Jammeh and his
goons! THEY ought to be in the dock! If we hire lawyers to defend these
kids, several things will happen:
1. We will legitimize an inherently illegitimate exercise just by merely
recognizing their fraudulent judicial proceedings!
2. We will play into Yaya Jammeh's hands! I swear to my mother's life, he
will have these kids convicted by his kangaroo courts, and then he'll turn
around and "FORGIVE" them. Why should this boffoon be allowed the luxury of
taking credit for freeing students who should never have been arrested in
the first place? You get my drift? If we let these kids be prosecuted, Yaya
will win. Any way the case ends, Yaya wins. On the one hand, he assures the
world that he is in "control," and on the other hand, he appeases desperate
parents by "saving" their children from going to jail. Think of Samuel Doe
and the five/six teachers he "saved" from the firing squad back in 1982.
Yaya will turn this tragedy into another cheap propaganda stunt, and it will
be business as usual! We just can't let that happen.
This whole ineffable tragedy is nothing but govt-sanctioned massacre! The
least we can do is demand the IMMEDIATE and UNCONDITIONAL RELEASE of all
arrested students! No exceptions! The immediate release of all dead bodies
etc, etc. The money collected should go to the bereaved families, the
wounded/hospitalized students, and GAMSU. Let these fools jail our students
and see how it feels to be a pariah state. The lies being told by Ousman
Badgie and others is an indication of how scared and paranoid these rascals
are. If we don't take a firm stance against the arrest and detention of
these poor kids, this case will become a replica of Ousman Korro Ceesay's.
Just think about it.
Saul.
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Your point that Yahya might use the odious specter of prosecuting these kids
as a ploy to grandstand has merit. It is the kind of evil he is made of.
However the primary purpose of the lawyers would be to establish the facts of
the massacre and that inherently entails initiating some relationship with
the students particularly those who were at forefront. That aspect of the
undertaking does not preclude using part of the contributions for the
bereaved families and the other very crucial assistance. Infact as of this
writing I have already received some contributions and God willing by the
weekend we would have been well underway in the collection. People have
called and sent emails. You underestimate this government's cruelty by
rightly insisting they alone be made to bear the indefinite jailing of school
kids. Once we have our team meticulously gather evidence, we would be in much
stronger position to help the bereaved families who would have legal standing
to seek redress at some place and time. Like you I am not looking for justice
in Yahya Jammeh's judiciary because it is worse than a kangaroo court.
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Gambia-L,
The number of contributions which have been coming in for the past four days
condemning the April 10 massacre and calling for collective action have
demonstrated our collective will to live in a free and just society. I was able
to finally get in touch with people in The Gambia. From my conversation with many
there and the reports we have been receiving, people there too are in a state of
shock and would like to see justice and an end to the rule of terror. In this
contribution, I want to share some general thoughts, summarise the proposals
which have so far been made, accompanied by comments and observations.
At this point we need to turn our rage and anger into positive energy in order to
generate well measured collective actions to achieve our desired goals. Uppermost
in our minds should be the interest of the motherland and her people. We should
strive to avoid any further bloodshed and loss of life, without compromising the
people’s interest. These events, tragic as they are, have demystified the power
of the state to some extent. Imagine what Gambia would have been like right now,
if on top of the students’ demonstration all Government workers refused to go to
work, all relatives of people in uniform being at the frontline telling their own
sons, daughters, brothers and sisters to shoot them first before shooting anyone
else; human bodies paving the roads waiting for military vehicles to ride over
them. The state apparatus will collapse and I want to believe that no Gambian in
uniform will shoot his blood relatives to uphold the rule of terror.
Unfortunately this beautiful picture is not yet existing and the situation is far
from resolved. There is still a state of uncertainty in the country and different
interest groups can be found at all levels, whose interests in the long run is
not to uphold the people’s will. Anything leading to more confusion should
therefore be avoided at the moment, as the outcome cannot be calculated under
these circumstances. It is important, I believe not to promote hatred between the
military and the people. There are some people in the military whose hearts are
filled with grief. Most people in the military today have taken up this
profession simply to earn a living. So they are also victims and not our enemies.
The people’s enemies are those who keep the country backward and use the military
and any means at their disposal to enrich themselves at society’s cost. This is
not to say that the soldiers who committed crimes should not be brought to
justice, but we should not antagonise the military as a whole. The game which the
Government is now trying to play by distancing itself from the use of life
ammunition, thereby putting the blame, by extension, solely on the military and
perhaps some specific scapegoats, is therefore dishonest and dangerous. As for
the demonstrators, the letter addressed to The President by FOROYAA has clearly
absolved them in my view and no honest person with a living conscience can put
any blame on them.
I also believe that we should focus our attention more on the home front. To
sensitise the international community about the horrors of the massacre and seek
assistance from them is absolutely necessary, but we should never lose sight of
the fact that the solution to The problems of The Gambia lies ultimately on our
shoulders as a people. Only we can bring lasting peace to the country. Without
wanting to belittle the effectiveness of the UN etc., let us remember that such
organisations have not always acted swiftly and effectively in resolving crisis.
We should therefore try to work closer with the forces of peace and progress at
home; try to complement their efforts and be a part of the search for solutions
there, through direct co-orperation, suggestions and initiating mechanisms to
facilitate the achievement of our common goal. This raises the question of
information flow. We need to know who is doing what there to promote the common
good, we also need to have reliable updates of the situation and people who can
assist us to find the right contacts and answers to questions we may raise, with
objectivity. The meeting in DC as reported by Latjor did come up with the need
“to develop a strategy to obtain timely and accurate information on the ground
(Gambia)” as part of their agenda. This is very necessary, as the effectiveness
of our actions and the tactics we may employ will largely depend on an accurate
assessment of the development of the situation on the ground. Finally, we should
remember that the transition from military rule to civilian rule was largely
managed by Gambians. So, we have reasons to trust that competence and goodwill is
available in The Gambia.
It seems to me that the spirit captured in Rolf Christensen’s statement “I am
deeply ashamed to admit to myself that my complacency in allowing my nation and
my heritage to be hijacked by a group of despots may have contributed to the
deaths of innocent school children” and implied by the call for action in the
2001 election reminds us that there are both immediate and long term goals. The
immediate goal being, to restore peace and freedom and bring to justice all those
who have committed crimes related to the massacre and the events which led to it.
These tragic deaths should not be repeated. What we ultimately want, I believe,
is a free and just society led by people working in an environment of good
Governance to pave the way for prosperity and happiness for the ordinary Gambian.
Bearing this in mind can help us focus better on the important issues.
The proposals
After going through all the mails, the proposals made so far can be summarised as
thus:
1.) To write a petition letter to the UN secretary General, Human Rights
organisations, Gambian Missions abroad etc.
2.) To prepare an e-mail petition to be sent to relevant organisations. Yankuba
Njie has volunteered to prepare an automated e-mail petition. Relevant addresses
have been provided by Momodou Camara, Momodou Buharry Gassama, Ebrima Ceesay etc.
Buharry has already drafted a letter which can be used for both 1. And 2. Above.
Do we want to prepare a more detailed letter for 1)?
3.) Write to elected representatives of countries of the countries of residence;
US Congress etc. and sensitise Foundations like The Gates Foundation. Should we
use the general petition together with a covering letter?
4.) To organise a Universal Demonstration and other isolated demonstrations. Saul
Khan was suggested to arrange the date etc. for the Universal Demonstration.
Should a few proposals (dates) be made and one agreed on?
4.) To form local co-ordinating committees, mobilise local communities and inform
Gambians about what happened and course of action
5.) To Nominate Gambia-L crisis co-ordinator who will be responsible for:
a.) Collecting money for the emergency fund.
b.) Help in seeking legal representations
Saffie Ceesay was nominated for the USA and Alpha Robinson for Europe.
6.) To mobilise local communities
7.) To host a website for information and promotion of our goals and activities.
8.) To support opposition parties in mobilising for action at home
9.) To form an organisation to monitor human rights violations
I apologise for failing to mention any name or proposal. Please feel free to add
any omissions to the list. Also note that some proposals have been combined
Observations and comments
It is my believe that we can work many proposals at the same time. In order to
avoid proposals being left unattended, it may be helpful for us to think about
how to realise any given proposal. Some co-ordination work is definitely
necessary, lest we may leave some things undone or be waiting for someone assumed
to be responsible to act. To avoid this, people who feel that they are competent
to handle certain tasks may volunteer or others can nominate them. It may be
necessary to form task committees to handle certain duties. So, please take a
look at the list and see what you think you can do. What do you think?
Pictures showing scenes of tragedy can be powerful in getting a message across. I
am sure most of us will remember how the picture of Hector Peterson moved the
whole world after the 1976 uprising in South Africa. If anyone on the ground has
access to such photos, it may be helpful to forward them to the “website
committee”. The Website can be useful in sensitising visitors about the tragedy
and providing information about the course of action. It can be a source where
non-Gambia-L members can be referred to for further information. Messages and
summaries of discussions on the list can be regularly posted there to update it.
On the long run, the website can serve as a forum where political parties can be
invited to present their party programmes and discuss issues of the day and for
other similar purposes.
Local co-ordinating committees can help to act as a bridge between Gambia-L and
non-members living in the various communities. Since not all concerned Gambians
are on the list (some do not even have access to computers) efforts should be
made to reach out to them. Local co-ordinating commitee members can further serve
as contact persons for concerned friends of the Gambia or the media and so on.
The emergency Fund can be converted to a permanent Fund which will serve the
purpose of providing legal fees for victims of Human rights abuse who are unable
to shoulder the cost. We can give it a name which bears relevance to the massacre
as a fitting tribute. For example, it can be called “The Ebrima Barry Foundation
for victims of Human Rights Abuse”.
Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to accept the nomination for
Gambia-L Co-ordinator in Europe. I think we should take a closer look at the
designated second responsibility Here, we can work with Human Right organisations
in The Gambia and reliable, honest citizens who will be in a position to advice
us accordingly. As far as collecting money is concerned, it may be cheaper for
people outside of Germany to arrange for someone to collect all contributions and
send a single cheque to reduce service costs. You may send cheques and Money
orders etc to:
Alpha Robinson
Brueder-Grimm Str. 4
37671 Hoexter
Tel. +49 5271 920043
In cases where you may wish to recommend to someone else or an organisation to
donate or contact me for information or simply where deemed helpful, you may use
my official address:
Dipl.-Ing. Alpha Robinson
Research Engineer
University of Paderborn, Abt. Hoexter
An der Wilhelmshoehe 44
37671 Hoexter
By tomorrow, I hope to be able to provide a bank account as well.
Finally, what do you think of declaring April 10 as a national holiday?
Alpha Robinson
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Listening to the Vice President and the Interior Secretary attempt to lie and
obfuscate made me sick to my stomach. Finally I know it is much too easy to
call these people who serve this President greedy opportunists who would very
eagerly auction off the small dignity all humans have for a job. They are
evil in their own right. No price is high enough to stoke an iota of decency
in them. From the very begining it has never emerged that any of them has
even attempted to moderate the cruelty and rot that this government concocts.
Instead they actively partake in the planing and systemic execution of all
the evil,and with untempered shamelessness attempt to rationalise their acts.
Murder, torture , abductions and all the litany of evil is subject to the
same approach. The vice President, projecting a kindly and matronly figure
hauls a bunch of people to inspect the murder scenes she had a bloody hand in
crafting. From there she heads for the TV to spew out a mixture of insincere
apologies , shameless propaganda and utter disrespect for the nation's
conscience and it's people. She ought to be sitting on a praying mat with
beads in hand asking the Lord for both forgiveness and how to defend against
charges of mass murder. The interior minister who is within the direct chain
of command and was reported to be on the scenes of the murders also attempted
to spin tales he apparently only convinced himself of. They were so stupid
and farfetched that he literally indicted himself for mass murder.
Karamba
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Ah Man,
Check your dates. April 12th is Wednesday and NOT Friday. So is 13th which is
Thursday.
Just to let you konw about it.
Good luck.
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Alpha,
I agree with both your analysis and suggestions. I think together we
can chart the course that would a big difference. I look forward to working
with you.
Thanks
Karamba
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 01:33:35 EDT
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Just realized misspelled know. Instead, wrote konw. It's a typographical
error.
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Mr President:
Mr Vice President:
A very tragic chapter in the history of our beloved nation, The Gambia,
occurred on the 10 th &11th April 2000 when security forces opened fire and
killed 14 and injured at least 28 people including a Red Cross volunteer and
journalist, Omar Barrow, during an unarmed demonstration organized by
students. The students were protesting the torture and murder of a fellow
student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year
old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students
have since been arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their
children are among the dead or imprisoned.
We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request you and
your organization to keep pressure
on the Government of The Gambia to immediately:
- instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of force against
civilians;
- release all the students currently under detention;
- release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their
relatives for proper burial
- launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances
surrounding it;
- ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with
according to the provisions of the law;
- instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint during
demonstrations slated for next week;
- ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape
of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law without
undue delay;
- ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution of The
Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of which The
Gambia is a signatory;
While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter of
matters, we take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and the people of
the United States for your concerns on Human Rights.
Sincerely,
Concerned Citizens of The Gambia.
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere---Dr. King
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Great Buharry!
But please kindly include the demand to immediately make known =
the identity of all those who died in this senseless carnage.
They should not just remain figures. Their names, age, sex, =
schools and what grades they were, all need to be immediately =
exposed.
Sidibeh.
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Hi!
I have worked on a draft of the petition to be sent to various =
organisations as requested by Abdoulie Saine. Please feel free to come =
up with suggestions and critique.=20
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Buharry.
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Dear Sir/Madam,
A very tragic chapter in the history of our =
beloved nation, The Gambia, occurred on the 10th. And 11th. April 2000 =
when security forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least 28 =
people including a Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, =
during an unarmed demonstration organised by students. The students were =
protesting the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by =
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request you =
and your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia =
to immediately:
- instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;=20
- release all the students currently under detention;
- release the names of those killed and release their bodies =
to their relatives for proper burial;
- launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances surrounding it;
- ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with according to the provisions of the law;
- instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
during demonstrations slated for next week;
- ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry =
and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the =
law without undue delay;
- ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution =
of The Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of =
which The Gambia is a signatory;
=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter of =
matters, we take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
organization for your concern.
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Sincerely,
=
Concerned Citizens of The Gambia.
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</SPAN>instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
during=20
demonstrations slated for next week;</P>
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</SPAN>ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry =
and the=20
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without=20
undue delay;</P>
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Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution of =
The=20
Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of =
which The=20
Gambia is a signatory;</P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify">While awaiting your =
kind=20
co-operation in this most urgent of matter of matters, we take the =
opportunity=20
to sincerely thank you and your organization for your concern.</P>
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THIS IS FORMAL INVITATION TO FELLOW GAMBIANS AND SYMPATHIESERS ALL OVER THE
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FOLLOWING THE BLOODY MONDAY MASSACRE BY OUR OWN SECURITY FORCES, GAMBIANS IN
UK WILL HOLD PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION AT THE GAMBIA HIGH COMMISSION WHICH IS
SITUATED AT HIGH STREET KENSINGTON ON MONDAY 17th OF APRIL 2000 AT 11:00am
LOCAL TIME.THIS SOLIDERITY IS SUPPORT OF THE STUDENTS AND THE RED CROSS
VOLUNTEER WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN EXERCISING THEIR FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS WE
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TO ALL CONCERNED
All concerned Gambians and friends of the Gambia are hereby
called upon to join heads to discuss what we can do about =20
the tragedy and its consequences unfolding in the Gambia.=20
Needless to say that whatever our deliberations, actions from =
this end will naturally supplement the undertakings of our=20
compatriots elsewhere.
It is hoped that by Sunday we would have already vented out =
our frustrations to enable us to soberly chart out a way =
forward.
This meeting is preliminarily scheduled for:
SUNDAY , APRIL 16TH - 16.00 HRS - 19.00HRS.
VENUE: AAGs Conference Hall; S=F6dermannagatan 5, 2tr;
T - Skanstull.
Any further notice will be duely posted to this list.
The least we can do for ourselves (not for the students) is to =
initially recognise our responsibility for our own history! =20
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<DIV>Needless to say that =
whatever =20
our deliberations, actions from </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>this end will naturally supplement =
the =20
undertakings of our </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>compatriots elsewhere.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It is hoped that by =
Sunday =20
we would have already vented out =
our =20
frustrations to enable us to soberly =
chart out a way forward.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This meeting is preliminarily scheduled =
for:</DIV>
<DIV>SUNDAY , APRIL 16TH<FONT size=3D2> - =
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<DIV>VENUE: AAGs Conference Hall; S=F6dermannagatan 5, =
2tr;</DIV>
<DIV>T - Skanstull.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Any further notice will be duely posted to this list.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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ourselves =20
(not for the students) is to =
initially =20
recognise our responsibility for our =
own =20
history! </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>WELCOME ALL........</DIV>
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<DIV>RSVP,</DIV>
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Sidibeh.=20
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Malanding,
This Man is the biggest lair and bucther that ever exist he is running =
away like he did before. He denied that he supported those who harassed =
the civilians at denton bridge when infact he did say "they were right" =
in front of the whole world, during an interview with the same shameless =
GRTS.
He is just a photocopy of Jammeh they are all idiots and shameful =
creatures. He was in mile " for 2 years for an alleged coup but he was =
released without a single charge. He is a Jammeh toilet paper!.
A.A.Drammeh.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Malanding S. Jaiteh=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 1:11 AM
Subject: Where in the world is he from?
Folks,=20
This is from the GRTS News. Looks like Mr. Interior Secretary is =
looking for a student with a life bullet in the back to confirm for him! =
What a pity.=20
Malanding Jaiteh=20
GRTS RADIO NEWS: THURSDAY 13TH APRIL 2000=20
The Interior Secretary Ousman Badgie has denied allegations that =
security forces fired life bullets on demonstrators on Monday. Speaking =
to GRTS yesterday in his office, he said security commanders have =
confirmed that their orders to their forces were to use rubber bullets =
and tear gas only to put down the demonstrations. He said the =
information they got from intelligence reports was that there were =
civilians who were armed with guns. Mr. Badgie said they are yet to =
confirm whether the deaths were caused by life bullets, and they are =
waiting for reports from pathologists who are examining the bodies of =
victims. But he challenged anyone who can confirm that security forces =
used life bullets to report the matter to relevant authorities. The =
Interior Secretary said the demonstration called by the Gambia Students =
Union did not receive permission from the police, because the students =
refused to pick the permit from them.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Malanding,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This Man is the biggest lair and =
bucther that ever=20
exist he is running away like he did before. He denied that he supported =
those=20
who harassed the civilians at denton bridge when infact he did say "they =
were=20
right" in front of the whole world, during an interview with the same =
shameless=20
GRTS.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He is just a photocopy of Jammeh they =
are all=20
idiots and shameful creatures. He was in mile " for 2 years for an =
alleged coup=20
but he was released without a single charge. He is a Jammeh toilet=20
paper!.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A.A.Drammeh.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
[log in to unmask]>Malanding S.=20
Jaiteh</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
=
[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 13, 2000 =
1:11=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Where in the world is =
he=20
from?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>
<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D-1>Folks,</FONT>=20
<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D-1>This is from the GRTS =
News. Looks=20
like Mr. Interior Secretary is looking for a student with a life =
bullet in the=20
back to confirm for him! What a pity. </FONT>
<P align=3Dleft>Malanding Jaiteh=20
<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Times New =
Roman,Times,Times NewRoman"=20
size=3D-1><STRONG><U>GRTS RADIO NEWS: THURSDAY 13TH APRIL=20
2000</U></STRONG></FONT>=20
<P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman,Times,Times NewRoman" size=3D-1>The =
Interior=20
Secretary Ousman Badgie has denied allegations that security forces =
fired life=20
bullets on demonstrators on Monday. Speaking to GRTS yesterday in his =
office,=20
he said security commanders have confirmed that their orders to their =
forces=20
were to use rubber bullets and tear gas only to put down the =
demonstrations.=20
He said the information they got from intelligence reports was that =
there were=20
civilians who were armed with guns. Mr. Badgie said they are yet =
to=20
confirm whether the deaths were caused by life bullets, and they are =
waiting=20
for reports from pathologists who are examining the bodies of victims. =
But he=20
challenged anyone who can confirm that security forces used life =
bullets to=20
report the matter to relevant authorities. The Interior Secretary said =
the=20
demonstration called by the Gambia Students Union did not receive =
permission=20
from the police, because the students refused to pick the permit from=20
them.</P></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Mori,
Oh you even try to think of sitting on it, they will not even carry out =
anything.
A.Drammeh
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I hope they will not sit on the pathologist's report as they did in =
Korro Ceesay's death.You will ever believe these sick ministers?
Mori
----- Original Message -----=20
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Subject: Where in the world is he from?
Folks,=20
This is from the GRTS News. Looks like Mr. Interior Secretary is =
looking for a student with a life bullet in the back to confirm for him! =
What a pity.=20
Malanding Jaiteh=20
GRTS RADIO NEWS: THURSDAY 13TH APRIL 2000=20
The Interior Secretary Ousman Badgie has denied allegations that =
security forces fired life bullets on demonstrators on Monday. Speaking =
to GRTS yesterday in his office, he said security commanders have =
confirmed that their orders to their forces were to use rubber bullets =
and tear gas only to put down the demonstrations. He said the =
information they got from intelligence reports was that there were =
civilians who were armed with guns. Mr. Badgie said they are yet to =
confirm whether the deaths were caused by life bullets, and they are =
waiting for reports from pathologists who are examining the bodies of =
victims. But he challenged anyone who can confirm that security forces =
used life bullets to report the matter to relevant authorities. The =
Interior Secretary said the demonstration called by the Gambia Students =
Union did not receive permission from the police, because the students =
refused to pick the permit from them.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mori,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh you even try to think of sitting on =
it, they=20
will not even carry out anything.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A.Drammeh</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
[log in to unmask]>Mori K.=20
Jammeh</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
=
[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 13, 2000 =
1:53=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Where in the world =
is he=20
from?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">I hope they will not sit on the=20
pathologist's report as they did in Korro Ceesay's death.You will ever =
believe=20
these sick ministers?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Mori</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
[log in to unmask]>Malanding S.=20
Jaiteh</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
=
[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 12, 2000 7:11 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Where in the world is he from?</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>
<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D-1>Folks,</FONT>=20
<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D-1>This is from the GRTS =
News. Looks=20
like Mr. Interior Secretary is looking for a student with a life =
bullet in the=20
back to confirm for him! What a pity. </FONT>
<P align=3Dleft>Malanding Jaiteh=20
<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Times New =
Roman,Times,Times NewRoman"=20
size=3D-1><STRONG><U>GRTS RADIO NEWS: THURSDAY 13TH APRIL=20
2000</U></STRONG></FONT>=20
<P><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman,Times,Times NewRoman" size=3D-1>The =
Interior=20
Secretary Ousman Badgie has denied allegations that security forces =
fired life=20
bullets on demonstrators on Monday. Speaking to GRTS yesterday in his =
office,=20
he said security commanders have confirmed that their orders to their =
forces=20
were to use rubber bullets and tear gas only to put down the =
demonstrations.=20
He said the information they got from intelligence reports was that =
there were=20
civilians who were armed with guns. Mr. Badgie said they are yet =
to=20
confirm whether the deaths were caused by life bullets, and they are =
waiting=20
for reports from pathologists who are examining the bodies of victims. =
But he=20
challenged anyone who can confirm that security forces used life =
bullets to=20
report the matter to relevant authorities. The Interior Secretary said =
the=20
demonstration called by the Gambia Students Union did not receive =
permission=20
from the police, because the students refused to pick the permit from=20
them.</P></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 11:21:56 +0100
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Saul,
Well I totally agree but I was a little shortsighted. I am thinking they
were keeping the students
until the lead of the Bucthers is back, then he will use them as a cheap
propaganda by releasing them.
His slaves are busy spreading lies, denying the truth. Oh Isatou Njie who
told you the shooting started
from the Demonstrators. Ah Jatta, the students Marched with you through the
streets, but you said the manhandle
you? Lair!!! when did u release then? LAIR!!! WOw !! Badgie you are doing it
best again keep it up you shameless creature! You know that you will be the
scapegoat so you are trying to please Bucther Jammeh!
A. Drammeh.
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Defend the students? No! IMMEDIATE & UNCONDITIONAL RELEASE!
> Karamba/All,
>
> I'm sending my contribution to Soffie, but having talked with some people,
> this idea of contributing to a Legal Defence Fund for the students is
> flawed. Why?
>
> The students have done nothing to be prosecuted for. They tried to
exercise
> their constitutional rights to hold a peaceful demo, and were denied that
> right. And then they were provoked, beaten, and manhandled by
> govt-sanctioned thugs! Consequently, the death and destruction that ensued
> should be laid squarely on the shoulders of the govt provocateurs! If
anyone
> needs to defend anything in this predictable mess, it's Yaya Jammeh and
his
> goons! THEY ought to be in the dock! If we hire lawyers to defend these
> kids, several things will happen:
>
> 1. We will legitimize an inherently illegitimate exercise just by merely
> recognizing their fraudulent judicial proceedings!
>
> 2. We will play into Yaya Jammeh's hands! I swear to my mother's life, he
> will have these kids convicted by his kangaroo courts, and then he'll turn
> around and "FORGIVE" them. Why should this boffoon be allowed the luxury
of
> taking credit for freeing students who should never have been arrested in
> the first place? You get my drift? If we let these kids be prosecuted,
Yaya
> will win. Any way the case ends, Yaya wins. On the one hand, he assures
the
> world that he is in "control," and on the other hand, he appeases
desperate
> parents by "saving" their children from going to jail. Think of Samuel Doe
> and the five/six teachers he "saved" from the firing squad back in 1982.
> Yaya will turn this tragedy into another cheap propaganda stunt, and it
will
> be business as usual! We just can't let that happen.
>
> This whole ineffable tragedy is nothing but govt-sanctioned massacre! The
> least we can do is demand the IMMEDIATE and UNCONDITIONAL RELEASE of all
> arrested students! No exceptions! The immediate release of all dead bodies
> etc, etc. The money collected should go to the bereaved families, the
> wounded/hospitalized students, and GAMSU. Let these fools jail our
students
> and see how it feels to be a pariah state. The lies being told by Ousman
> Badgie and others is an indication of how scared and paranoid these
rascals
> are. If we don't take a firm stance against the arrest and detention of
> these poor kids, this case will become a replica of Ousman Korro Ceesay's.
> Just think about it.
>
> Saul.
>
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Yankuba,
Grateful if you put my name on the list.
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Alpha,
I agree with the action plan and your analysis of the situation. I will se=
nd my
contribution as soon as you send the account number.
Here are a few additions to the suggestions you already mentioned:
1. I just want to add that the petition be printed by list members so that=
Gambians and friends of Gambia who are not on the internet can also have t=
he
chance to sign and send it by snail mail as suggested by Ylva and Jabou.
2. All letters and petitions should also be translated into various langua=
ges
of residence and sent to the local press.
3. I am adding a suggestion that a joint declaration on behalf of Gambia-l=
to
be drafted and sent to the press, human rights organizations and Governmen=
t of
The Gambia. Any one on Gambia-l who does not want his/her name/organizatio=
n to
be on that declaration should send an email to the list managers and their=
names will not be written as signatories. All those who do not request not=
to
be on the declaration will automatically become listed as signatories. At =
the
moment we have more than 600 members on the list.
Keep up doing the good work down there:-)
"No justice, no peace"
Momodou Camara, Copenhagen - Denmark
On 13 Apr 00, at 6:54, Alpha Robinson wrote:
> Gambia-L,
>
> The number of contributions which have been coming in for the past four =
days
> condemning the April 10 massacre and calling for collective action have
> demonstrated our collective will to live in a free and just society. I w=
as able
> to finally get in touch with people in The Gambia. From my conversation =
with many
> there and the reports we have been receiving, people there too are in a =
state of
> shock and would like to see justice and an end to the rule of terror. In=
this
> contribution, I want to share some general thoughts, summarise the propo=
sals
> which have so far been made, accompanied by comments and observations.
>
> At this point we need to turn our rage and anger into positive energy in=
order to
> generate well measured collective actions to achieve our desired goals. =
Uppermost
> in our minds should be the interest of the motherland and her people. We=
should
> strive to avoid any further bloodshed and loss of life, without compromi=
sing the
> people=92s interest. These events, tragic as they are, have demystified =
the power
> of the state to some extent. Imagine what Gambia would have been like ri=
ght now,
> if on top of the students=92 demonstration all Government workers refuse=
d to go to
> work, all relatives of people in uniform being at the frontline telling =
their own
> sons, daughters, brothers and sisters to shoot them first before shootin=
g anyone
> else; human bodies paving the roads waiting for military vehicles to rid=
e over
> them. The state apparatus will collapse and I want to believe that no Ga=
mbian in
> uniform will shoot his blood relatives to uphold the rule of terror.
>
> Unfortunately this beautiful picture is not yet existing and the situati=
on is far
> from resolved. There is still a state of uncertainty in the country and =
different
> interest groups can be found at all levels, whose interests in the long =
run is
> not to uphold the people=92s will. Anything leading to more confusion sh=
ould
> therefore be avoided at the moment, as the outcome cannot be calculated =
under
> these circumstances. It is important, I believe not to promote hatred be=
tween the
> military and the people. There are some people in the military whose hea=
rts are
> filled with grief. Most people in the military today have taken up this
> profession simply to earn a living. So they are also victims and not our=
enemies.
> The people=92s enemies are those who keep the country backward and use t=
he military
> and any means at their disposal to enrich themselves at society=92s cost=
. This is
> not to say that the soldiers who committed crimes should not be brought =
to
> justice, but we should not antagonise the military as a whole. The game =
which the
> Government is now trying to play by distancing itself from the use of li=
fe
> ammunition, thereby putting the blame, by extension, solely on the milit=
ary and
> perhaps some specific scapegoats, is therefore dishonest and dangerous. =
As for
> the demonstrators, the letter addressed to The President by FOROYAA has =
clearly
> absolved them in my view and no honest person with a living conscience c=
an put
> any blame on them.
>
> I also believe that we should focus our attention more on the home front=
. To
> sensitise the international community about the horrors of the massacre =
and seek
> assistance from them is absolutely necessary, but we should never lose s=
ight of
> the fact that the solution to The problems of The Gambia lies ultimately=
on our
> shoulders as a people. Only we can bring lasting peace to the country. W=
ithout
> wanting to belittle the effectiveness of the UN etc., let us remember th=
at such
> organisations have not always acted swiftly and effectively in resolving=
crisis.
> We should therefore try to work closer with the forces of peace and prog=
ress at
> home; try to complement their efforts and be a part of the search for so=
lutions
> there, through direct co-orperation, suggestions and initiating mechanis=
ms to
> facilitate the achievement of our common goal. This raises the question =
of
> information flow. We need to know who is doing what there to promote the=
common
> good, we also need to have reliable updates of the situation and people =
who can
> assist us to find the right contacts and answers to questions we may rai=
se, with
> objectivity. The meeting in DC as reported by Latjor did come up with th=
e need
> =93to develop a strategy to obtain timely and accurate information on th=
e ground
> (Gambia)=94 as part of their agenda. This is very necessary, as the effe=
ctiveness
> of our actions and the tactics we may employ will largely depend on an a=
ccurate
> assessment of the development of the situation on the ground. Finally, w=
e should
> remember that the transition from military rule to civilian rule was lar=
gely
> managed by Gambians. So, we have reasons to trust that competence and go=
odwill is
> available in The Gambia.
>
> It seems to me that the spirit captured in Rolf Christensen=92s statemen=
t =93I am
> deeply ashamed to admit to myself that my complacency in allowing my nat=
ion and
> my heritage to be hijacked by a group of despots may have contributed to=
the
> deaths of innocent school children=94 and implied by the call for action=
in the
> 2001 election reminds us that there are both immediate and long term goa=
ls. The
> immediate goal being, to restore peace and freedom and bring to justice =
all those
> who have committed crimes related to the massacre and the events which l=
ed to it.
> These tragic deaths should not be repeated. What we ultimately want, I b=
elieve,
> is a free and just society led by people working in an environment of go=
od
> Governance to pave the way for prosperity and happiness for the ordinary=
Gambian.
> Bearing this in mind can help us focus better on the important issues.
>
>
> The proposals
>
> After going through all the mails, the proposals made so far can be summ=
arised as
> thus:
>
> 1.) To write a petition letter to the UN secretary General, Human Rights
> organisations, Gambian Missions abroad etc.
>
> 2.) To prepare an e-mail petition to be sent to relevant organisations. =
Yankuba
> Njie has volunteered to prepare an automated e-mail petition. Relevant a=
ddresses
> have been provided by Momodou Camara, Momodou Buharry Gassama, Ebrima Ce=
esay etc.
>
> Buharry has already drafted a letter which can be used for both 1. And 2=
. Above.
> Do we want to prepare a more detailed letter for 1)?
>
> 3.) Write to elected representatives of countries of the countries of re=
sidence;
> US Congress etc. and sensitise Foundations like The Gates Foundation. Sh=
ould we
> use the general petition together with a covering letter?
>
> 4.) To organise a Universal Demonstration and other isolated demonstrati=
ons. Saul
> Khan was suggested to arrange the date etc. for the Universal Demonstrat=
ion.
> Should a few proposals (dates) be made and one agreed on?
>
> 4.) To form local co-ordinating committees, mobilise local communities a=
nd inform
> Gambians about what happened and course of action
>
> 5.) To Nominate Gambia-L crisis co-ordinator who will be responsible for=
:
> a.) Collecting money for the emergency fund.
> b.) Help in seeking legal representations
> Saffie Ceesay was nominated for the USA and Alpha Robinson for Europe.
>
> 6.) To mobilise local communities
>
> 7.) To host a website for information and promotion of our goals and act=
ivities.
>
> 8.) To support opposition parties in mobilising for action at home
>
> 9.) To form an organisation to monitor human rights violations
>
> I apologise for failing to mention any name or proposal. Please feel fre=
e to add
> any omissions to the list. Also note that some proposals have been combi=
ned
>
>
> Observations and comments
>
> It is my believe that we can work many proposals at the same time. In or=
der to
> avoid proposals being left unattended, it may be helpful for us to think=
about
> how to realise any given proposal. Some co-ordination work is definitely
> necessary, lest we may leave some things undone or be waiting for someon=
e assumed
> to be responsible to act. To avoid this, people who feel that they are c=
ompetent
> to handle certain tasks may volunteer or others can nominate them. It ma=
y be
> necessary to form task committees to handle certain duties. So, please t=
ake a
> look at the list and see what you think you can do. What do you think?
>
> Pictures showing scenes of tragedy can be powerful in getting a message =
across. I
> am sure most of us will remember how the picture of Hector Peterson move=
d the
> whole world after the 1976 uprising in South Africa. If anyone on the gr=
ound has
> access to such photos, it may be helpful to forward them to the =93websi=
te
> committee=94. The Website can be useful in sensitising visitors about th=
e tragedy
> and providing information about the course of action. It can be a source=
where
> non-Gambia-L members can be referred to for further information. Message=
s and
> summaries of discussions on the list can be regularly posted there to up=
date it.
> On the long run, the website can serve as a forum where political partie=
s can be
> invited to present their party programmes and discuss issues of the day =
and for
> other similar purposes.
>
> Local co-ordinating committees can help to act as a bridge between Gambi=
a-L and
> non-members living in the various communities. Since not all concerned G=
ambians
> are on the list (some do not even have access to computers) efforts shou=
ld be
> made to reach out to them. Local co-ordinating commitee members can furt=
her serve
> as contact persons for concerned friends of the Gambia or the media and =
so on.
>
> The emergency Fund can be converted to a permanent Fund which will serve=
the
> purpose of providing legal fees for victims of Human rights abuse who ar=
e unable
> to shoulder the cost. We can give it a name which bears relevance to the=
massacre
> as a fitting tribute. For example, it can be called =93The Ebrima Barry =
Foundation
> for victims of Human Rights Abuse=94.
>
> Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to accept the nomination =
for
> Gambia-L Co-ordinator in Europe. I think we should take a closer look at=
the
> designated second responsibility Here, we can work with Human Right orga=
nisations
> in The Gambia and reliable, honest citizens who will be in a position to=
advice
> us accordingly. As far as collecting money is concerned, it may be cheap=
er for
> people outside of Germany to arrange for someone to collect all contribu=
tions and
> send a single cheque to reduce service costs. You may send cheques and M=
oney
> orders etc to:
>
> Alpha Robinson
> Brueder-Grimm Str. 4
> 37671 Hoexter
> Tel. +49 5271 920043
>
> In cases where you may wish to recommend to someone else or an organisat=
ion to
> donate or contact me for information or simply where deemed helpful, you=
may use
> my official address:
>
> Dipl.-Ing. Alpha Robinson
> Research Engineer
> University of Paderborn, Abt. Hoexter
> An der Wilhelmshoehe 44
> 37671 Hoexter
>
> By tomorrow, I hope to be able to provide a bank account as well.
>
> Finally, what do you think of declaring April 10 as a national holiday?
>
>
> Alpha Robinson
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Hi Mr Janteh,
Do you think it will be possible to co-ordinate the demo in such a way that
we hold it
on the same day, not exactly the same time as other Gambians and friends of The
Gambia around the world?
Am working working hand in hand with my university's Student's Union
representatives, and also some human rights organizations in The UK. They are
ready to come out and join us any day we choose as long as we notify them.
One of the organizations is willing to even print out pamphlets for us. So
please let's see what the rest of the members on the list around the globe come
up with regarding the unanimous day for the protests. I have also this morning
emailed Mr Jeremy Corbyn MP, (if you remember he was the MP protesting on the
streets of London for Pinochet to be tried).
I know he will join us and may even talk about it in the House of Parliament.
If you or anyone could, please write to your local MP or any MP for that reason.
They (MPs) all have the same address anyway, for example my MP is:-
Professor Alan Whitehead
House of Commons
LONDON
SW1A 0AA
The email addresses of MPs are also similar (though am not too sure of this).
Again my local MP's is:[log in to unmask]
You can also get the fax number of any MP, if you phone 0171-2193000. The House
of Common Secretary will give you
the contact details of the respective MP. Better still one can just post the the
petition drafted by my Njie to the MPs. My partner has done exactly that, ands
even sent one to Prime Minister Blair this morning. Infact I see no reason why
we cannot writer to the whole UK cabinet. (below are some I know of).
The Prime Minister, First Lord of the Treasury
and Minister for the
Civil Service
The Rt Hon Tony Blair MP
Deputy Prime Minister and Secretary of State
for the
Environment, Transport and the Regions
The Rt Hon John Prescott MP
Chancellor of the Exchequer
The Rt Hon Gordon Brown MP
Secretary of State for Foreign and
Commonwealth Affairs
The Rt Hon Robin Cook MP
Lord Chancellor
The Rt Hon The Lord Irvine of Lairg
Secretary of State for the Home Department
The Rt Hon Jack Straw MP
Secreatry of State for Education and
Employment
The Rt Hon David Blunkett MP
President of the Council and Leader of the
House of Commons
The Rt Hon Margaret Beckett MP
Parliamentary Secretary, Treasury and Chief
Whip
The Rt Hon Ann Taylor MP
Secretary of State for Culture, Media and
Sport
The Rt Hon Chris Smith MP
Minister for the Cabinet Office and Chancellor
for the Duchy of
Lancaster
The Rt Hon Dr Marjorie Mowlam MP
Secretary of State for International
Development
The Rt Hon Clare Short MP
Secretary of State for Social Security
The Rt Hon Alistair Darling MP
Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food
The Rt Hon Nick Brown MP
Leader of the House of Lords and Minister for
Women
The Rt Hon The Baroness Jay of Paddington
Secretary of State for Trade and Industry
The Rt Hon Stephen Byers MP
Secretary of State for Health
The Rt Hon Alan Milburn MP
Secretary of State for Scotland
The Rt Hon Dr John Reid MP
Secretary of State for Wales
The Rt Hon Paul Murphy MP
Secretary of State for Northern Ireland
The Rt Hon Peter Mandelson MP
Secretary of State for Defence
The Rt Hon Geoffrey Hoon MP
Chief Secretary to the Treasury
The Rt Hon Andrew Smith MP
Minister for Transport*
The Rt Hon The Lord Macdonald of Tradeston,
CBE
Captain of the Gentlemen-At-Arms (Government
Chief Whip,
House of Lords)*
The Rt Hon The Lord Carter
Just a thought. If we decide to go ahead with Monday' demo you can count on me.
All the best
Dave Manneh
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Hi Mr Janteh,
<br> Do you think it will be possible to co-ordinate
the demo in such a way that we hold it
<br>on the same day, not exactly the same time as other Gambians and friends
of The Gambia around the world?
<p>Am working working hand in hand with my university's Student's Union
representatives, and also some human rights organizations in The UK. They
are ready to come out and join us any day we choose as long as we notify
them.
<p>One of the organizations is willing to even print out pamphlets for
us. So please let's see what the rest of the members on the list around
the globe come up with regarding the unanimous day for the protests. I
have also this morning emailed Mr Jeremy Corbyn MP, (if you
remember he was the MP protesting on the streets of London for Pinochet
to be tried).
<br>I know he will join us and may even talk about it in the House of Parliament.
<p>If you or anyone could, please write to your local MP or any MP for
that reason. They (MPs) all have the same address anyway, for example my
MP is:-
<br><b> Professor Alan Whitehead</b>
<br><b> House of Commons</b>
<br><b> LONDON</b>
<br><b> SW1A 0AA</b>
<br>The email addresses of MPs are also similar (though am not too sure
of this). Again my local MP's is:-<font color="#3333FF"><a href="[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a></font>
<p>You can also get the fax number of any MP, if you phone 0171-2193000.
The House of Common Secretary will give you
<br>the contact details of the respective MP. Better still one can just
post the the petition drafted by my Njie to the MPs. My partner has done
exactly that, ands even sent one to Prime Minister Blair this morning.
Infact I see no reason why we cannot writer to the whole UK cabinet. (below
are some I know of).
<br>
<br>
The Prime Minister, First Lord of the Treasury and Minister for the
<br>
Civil Service
<br>
The Rt Hon Tony Blair MP
<p>
Deputy Prime Minister and Secretary of State for the
<br>
Environment, Transport and the Regions
<br>
The Rt Hon John Prescott MP
<p>
Chancellor of the Exchequer
<br>
The Rt Hon Gordon Brown MP
<p>
Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs
<br>
The Rt Hon Robin Cook MP
<p>
Lord Chancellor
<br>
The Rt Hon The Lord Irvine of Lairg
<p>
Secretary of State for the Home Department
<br>
The Rt Hon Jack Straw MP
<p>
Secreatry of State for Education and Employment
<br>
The Rt Hon David Blunkett MP
<p>
President of the Council and Leader of the House of Commons
<br>
The Rt Hon Margaret Beckett MP
<p>
Parliamentary Secretary, Treasury and Chief Whip
<br>
The Rt Hon Ann Taylor MP
<p>
Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport
<br>
The Rt Hon Chris Smith MP
<p>
Minister for the Cabinet Office and Chancellor for the Duchy of
<br>
Lancaster
<br>
The Rt Hon Dr Marjorie Mowlam MP
<p>
Secretary of State for International Development
<br>
The Rt Hon Clare Short MP
<p>
Secretary of State for Social Security
<br>
The Rt Hon Alistair Darling MP
<p>
Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food
<br>
The Rt Hon Nick Brown MP
<p>
Leader of the House of Lords and Minister for Women
<br>
The Rt Hon The Baroness Jay of Paddington
<p>
Secretary of State for Trade and Industry
<br>
The Rt Hon Stephen Byers MP
<p>
Secretary of State for Health
<br>
The Rt Hon Alan Milburn MP
<p>
Secretary of State for Scotland
<br>
The Rt Hon Dr John Reid MP
<p>
Secretary of State for Wales
<br>
The Rt Hon Paul Murphy MP
<p>
Secretary of State for Northern Ireland
<br>
The Rt Hon Peter Mandelson MP
<p>
Secretary of State for Defence
<br>
The Rt Hon Geoffrey Hoon MP
<p>
Chief Secretary to the Treasury
<br>
The Rt Hon Andrew Smith MP
<p>
Minister for Transport*
<br>
The Rt Hon The Lord Macdonald of Tradeston, CBE
<p>
Captain of the Gentlemen-At-Arms (Government Chief Whip,
<br>
House of Lords)*
<br>
The Rt Hon The Lord Carter
<p>Just a thought. If we decide to go ahead with Monday' demo you can count
on me.
<br>
<br>All the best
<br>Dave Manneh</html>
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Gambia-l:
Other than making monetary contributions and raising funds, I plan to attend any meetings or demonstrations in Tennessee, Georgia, the Carolinas, Ohio, Kentucky, and the Washington, DC area.
We can't let Jammeh and his gang of wild animals prevail any more. We got to rid The Gambia of the Aimless People Ruining our Country.
Amadou Scattred Janneh
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"Dr. Amadou S. Janneh" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>Gambia-l:
>
>Other than making monetary contributions and raising funds, I plan to
>attend any meetings or demonstrations in Tennessee, Georgia, the Carolinas,
>Ohio, Kentucky, and the Washington, DC area.
> We can't let Jammeh and his gang of wild animals prevail any more. We
>got to rid The Gambia of the Aimless People Ruining our Country.
>
>
>
That's the spirit tom. If we all adapt the same attitude we can get rid of
those dogs sooner rather than Later. Something is in the offing here.
Saiks just arrived back in Oslo from back home an hour ago. He got me on my
mobile a few minutes ago and just needs a bit of rest. He'll tell the L
about his experiences.
By Monday we should have a concrete program of action from those living in
Oslo who care.
Regards.
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12 April 2000.
Secretary General,
Office of the President,
State House,
Marina Parade,
BANJUL.
The Great Lesson Is Still Not Learnt
Unprecedented events require unprecedented honesty, sincerity, maturity and
resourcefulness to be fully comprehended and addressed.
Everyday, the public is being informed that the situation is now under
control. However, everyday we hear reports of manoeuvres by students in one
place or another to demonstrate against the State.
Suffice it to say, schools within Region 1 and Region 2 were closed down
indefinitely on Monday, 10 April 2000. On Tuesday, 11 April 2000 schools all
over the country were closed down. This is meant to serve as a crisis
management strategy. It, however, signifies that any congregation of
students is still deemed as a threat to national security. As long as such a
state of affairs remains, one cannot say that things are under control. In
short, one is merely postponing the day of reckoning.
What is really needed is not to postpone confrontation but to eradicate the
basis for it. This requires sober reflections on the side of the government.
The tone of press releases matters a great deal in containing or inflaming
the situation. Let us take the content of your press release of 11 April
2000. The press release from the Office of the President reads:
"A preliminary assessment of the aftermath of the unauthorised
demonstration, led by The Gambia Students' Union (GAMSU), on Monday 10 April
2000, has revealed extensive damages to both private and public properties
and loss of lives. It has so far been established that 12 people died and 28
were admitted at the Royal Victoria Hospital, out of which 15 are students
and 13 non-students.
"Some GAMTEL offices and telephone booths, police and Fire Service
facilities, equipment and vehicles were burnt down or vandalized. Other
public installations, such as Post Offices, the Janjangbureh Area Council
and Regional Education Office were burnt down and the ferry service at
Sankuleh Kunda and telephone lines were interrupted.
"There is no doubt that the crisis was incited by The Gambia Students' Union
(GAMSU) and aggravated by some bad elements and bandits who took advantage
of the situation, disguising themselves and encouraging the crowd of so
called demonstrators to do the damage.
"Therefore, The Gambia Students' Union and anybody linked to this
unwarranted and unjustified incident must bear the full responsibility and
have to answer for the carnage.
"It must be understood that the death of Ebrima Barry and the alleged rape
of a girl have been given all the attention and urgency they demand and
deserve by the Department of State for Justice. The suspects in the case of
Ebrima Barry have been interrogated, investigations completed and the case
has now been registered in court. As a matter of fact the accused persons
are presently remanded in custody.
"At this point, the Government of The Gambia will ensure that justice takes
its course in line with the separation of powers and our respect for the
independence of the courts. After all, the suspects too have human rights,
including the right to fair trial, which must be observed. It must be made
clear that no individuals or group of people will be allowed to hold the law
to ransom.
"Government therefore strongly condemns this irresponsible and senseless
behaviour, and calls on all parents, teachers, guardians and religious and
community leaders as well as all peace loving Gambians and non-Gambians
alike to ensure that peace, calm and tranquillity are maintained at all
times, and to prevail on their children and wards to be law abiding and
responsible.
"Government has further decided that all schools and tertiary institutions
in the country are to be closed with immediate effect until further notice.
"Finally Government wish to reassure the general public, friends of The
Gambia and visitors to The Gambia that the situation as of now is under
control." (END)
It is unfortunate that the press release is apportioning blame before any
investigation is done. How can such remarks be made when everything should
be under investigation? Such threats can aggravate the situation. Such a
self-righteous posture does not give the impression that the government is
learning the necessary lessons from the crisis. It is the attempt to break
Ebrima Barry by force which led to his death. It is the attempt to prevent a
demonstration by force which has led to resistance and national catastrophe.
The march of events imposes upon the government the imperative necessity of
avoiding the issuing of condemnations and judgments which are within the
purview of independent and impartial magistrates and judges who try cases.
The press releases emanating from the Office of the President should give
accurate reports of the realities of the crisis and explain government's
position instead of uttering condemnations and threatening retribution.
Developments prior to the crisis indicate very clearly that the GAMSU
leadership and the authorities responsible for security were engaged in a
mature dialogue. The principal contradiction emanated from the desire of the
GAMSU to hold a demonstration. The authorities felt that the demonstration
was unnecessary. GAMSU felt that it had a right to hold a demonstration.
What the authorities should have done is to allow the students to exercise
their rights and then use the opportunity to address them by stating what
has been done to deal with their concerns. The public would have been left
to judge whether government has done enough to redress the situation.
There is absolutely no doubt that the approach taken by those who are
custodians of public institutions can help to restrain or inflame a
situation. This is evident in the very crisis itself. In places like
Churchill's Town, some soldiers did appear with guns but went directly to
the students and were telling them these words "You are our brothers and
sisters. If we kill you today, we'll be killing our brothers and sisters. We
beg you to go away." And many of the students did go away.
However, at the GTTI and Westfield Junction, security forces were seen
beating students, kicking them and many students have reported being stamped
on or being subjected to one form of brutality or another.
These are entirely different approaches by members of the security forces.
Those students who suffered brutalities simply generalised their feelings
towards all the other security forces and conceived them as agents of
coercion rather than agents for their protection. It is such generalised
anger which can drive a person to transfer such anger to other security
forces in the police stations and other fire stations who had nothing to do
with the death of Ebrima Barry or the suppression of students who assembled
at the GTTI. This is not an attempt to rationalize the situation but to
explain very clearly the concrete realities that were on the ground.
What is needed from the government are words that would eradicate the
cynicism that has built up and the negative impressions that have emerged.
This is not going to be achieved by threats and denials. It can only be
achieved by facing the facts.
Indictment must be based on evidence. The evidence that we have so far
received is that GAMSU simply assembled near GTTI but had not started a
procession when the security forces intervened. There is no law indicating
that people cannot assemble and there is ample evidence to show that after
the GTTI conflict, one was no longer talking about a procession. One was
talking about resistance and a revolt by the students which gave rise to
the carnage.
The government has something to learn. The students have something to learn.
Our whole society has something to learn and the fertile ground to ensure
that real learning takes place is to move away from cover-ups, insinuations,
innuendoes and speak to each other like intelligent human beings who
sincerely wish to find a way out of this crisis.
During the height of the crisis, Sidia Jatta was able to speak to the
students, the Secretary of State and the Army Chief of Staff at the
Westfield Junction. However, the situation had got out of hand and the left
hand no longer knew what the right hand was doing.
We hope that the historical imperatives impose on the government will be
shouldered and the right lessons drawn at the right time to prevent Gambian
schools from being closed indefinitely for fear that once the students
congregate national security shall be the casualty.
While anticipating that you will give the opinions expressed due
consideration,
We remain,
...............................................
Halifa Sallah
For: The Editorial Board.
CC:
Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice.
Secretary of State for The Interior.
Secretary of State for Education.
Chief of Staff, Armed Forces of The Gambia.
Commander, Gambia National Army.
Director, National Intelligence Agency.
Inspector General of Police.
Secretary, National Security Council.
Gambia Students' Union (GAMSU).
The Press.
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It was some time back when i read from the news, of the immature display of
SIMBOLA OR WHATEVER THE HELL THAT WAS by Hitler Jammeh in front of school
children during the last independent celebration as an early sign of this
cowardly butchery. That, Mr. Saidy, was broadcasted all over the television
network, radio and other pathetic propaganda organs provided by ur lord
Bokassa Hitler Jammeh. My point is, it should also be ur duty to allow the
nation to see and understand what the Judah of Kanilie really meant by
dancing simbola with swords and knives only to turn around and use the
deadly might of the AK47 which has a firing capacity of six hundred rounds
per minute.
I can't comprehend neither decipher what idiot would kill the future hope of
his people. Had Jawara done the same, i doubt many of us would be here
today including u Tombong as ur school days can record testify. No soldier
was ever trained to kill his paymaster, that's, soldiers are trained to
protect, respect and die for the nation/people they owe their allegiance to.
I was a soldier, actually, one of the founding members of the first in-take
july 1984 and was part of the instructors selected by the British...sgt
major Allen and sgt major Patten to train the second in-take and so forth.
But in all my time in the army 84-89, i never learnt from any army manual or
doctrine that qualifies the slaughtering of kids, women and the general
populace. Soldiering is a dignified profession when conducted accordingly
and professionally. Hitler Bokassa Jammeh was nobody then and i assume he's
less of a man now than ever.
Tombong, for once in ur opportunist miserable insecure life, do show some
kind of professionalism and allow the gambian people to see and understand
who this depressive egoistic murderer is, by giving them unbiased coverage
of events. Am talking about major events like this tragedy which will help
them digest the slippery and entangled state of our nation. Be patriotic and
stop being a slave, what goes around, comes around. Word of caution me bro,
it is ur constitutional duty to help alleviate the misery of our people.
Kittos
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Well, the lies are coming in thick and fast!!!!!! Did we all hear
the interior minister say that he did not know who shot the students
and that there was no live bullets!!!!!! I cannot beleive what i
heard!!!!!! Brothers and Sisters we are in deep trouble....Deep,Deep
trouble, i say....... did he expect educated and liberal folks to
beleive what he said????? surely he must be on something(well they always are)!!!!!
For Madame Vice President, Well what can u say??? Never before have
i seen such a decent lady turned into a robot. She is worse that
a character in Video game controlled by a joystick!!! One of those
Street Fighter super nintendo lot!!!!!! The Madame was heartless
as if she had no kids!!!! I know she has though!!!!!!!Unbelievable!!!!!!
As for Ebrima Sillah of the BBC, i am totally sickened by his attitude.
How could Robin White ask you who the nation was siding with and
u responded by saying that "well it is difficult to tell" You have
lost the deep respect i had for you..... How difficult is it????
Check the voiceout, Gambia-l, Listen to the radios and just look
at the faces of the average gambian and the answer is staring you
right in the face.. The Gambians and the world alike side with the
poor students cause what they stood for is actually what all the
adults feel but the students had the guts to stand up for their right!!!!!!
Mr sillah,you have been bestowed with a powerfool tool. Use it wisely
for the sake of our fallen brothers and sisters..... The truth is
what is needed. Stop beating about the bush!!!!!!!
Let us not despair, Allah and the whole nation is on the side of
the students..... The truth shall come out.......
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Dear Mr. Forster,
In case you haven't heard, at least 12 school children
have lost their lives in The Gambia and as a result
the entire country and friends of The Gambia around
the world are in mourning. I consider your posting to
be ill-timed and in poor taste to say the least. I am
not being rude, just brutally frank.
Sidi Sanneh
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wrote:
> I forwarded Ebrima's piece on poverty eradication to
> a friend who is
> a Ugandan and below is his response.
>
> Tom
>
> ***********************
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> This is my response to Ebima. I don't know how well
> he
> understands Ugandan history. But if he does then he
> misrepresented the facts. There is no double
> standards on this
> issue by the west. In Uganda today, we enjoy the
> best African type
> of democracy. To say that Uganda is a one party
> state shows how
> little he understands our system of government. We
> don't have
> parties. All party activities are banned. We all
> belong to a
> movement system whereby anyone is allowed to stand
> for office on
> his/her own merit rather than voting so and so
> because he/she is
> from labour party rather than Alliance despite
> his/her short-
> comings. We vote according to capability. Is the
> individual
> capable? If by any chance he/she is incapable for
> one reason or
> the other, the electorate has the right to recall by
> a vote of no
> confidence. Other than the government, where else in
> the world
> does this type of democracy exist. Not even at the
> cradle of it in
> UK where you can change parties and still represent
> the people
> who did not vote for you.
> >
> > And talking about Western double standards, let me
> inform you that
> > while your Foreign Minister, Robin Cook, is
> calling on President
> > Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe to hold multi-party
> elections in Zimbabwe in
> > May 2000, as scheduled, there is in fact a country
> in Africa, Uganda,
> > which is still a one-party state, and yet, as far
> as I know, Mr Cook
> > is not saying anything about it.
> >
> > In Uganda, opposition parties are banned, but the
> West has never
> > complained about it. In fact, didn't President
> Bill Clinton visit
> > Uganda in 1999, during his Africa tour? Well, let
> me now tell you why
> > the West refuses to take President Museveni of
> Uganda to task: The
> > Western Governments like President Museveni
> because he is a strong
> > defender/proponent of IMF and World policies in
> Africa, period.
> To say that President Clinton also visited Uganda
> in 1999 is
> another sign that Ebima does not understand what
> takes place in
> Uganda. I think there few African leaders who can
> take a stance
> and stick to it. In uganda there have been some IMF
> policies which
> the government has refused to implement and some
> which have
> been reenegotiated. So it is a matter of leaders
> standing up and
> explaining in unequivocal terms to the west what
> they want. The
> west will listen.
> Another reason is that since 1971 Uganda has been in
> turmoil until
> 1986 when Museveni came to power. It is the same
> parties which
> were involved so with their participation in
> violence how can
> someone be sympathetic.
> In 1996, there was presidential elections whereby
> anyone was
> allowed to stand, Museveni won.
>
> Freedom of speech is very important and anyone can
> say what
> she/he likes so some opposition politicians have won
> seats and
> sad bad things about Museveni, but they still live
> in Uganda, not in
> prison as it used to be, so how can someone who
> understands our
> history advocate for political parties?
> >
> > Anyway, let me conclude on a brighter observation;
> by saying that in
> > any case, those of us who are here, should, all
> the same, thank God,
> > because despite all these minuses in Western
> Societies that I have
> > cited, ranging from abject poverty, multiple
> crimes to homelessness,
> > the Western World, in my honest view, still offers
> more opportunities
> > for man than other places in the world.
> Doesn't the above paragraph really say much about
> his inclination?
> >
> > Yes, the system here doesn't favour minorities,
> especially blacks, but
> > one can still find consolation in the fact that a
> man/woman can push
> > some of these prejudices and discrimination behind
> him/her and do well
> > for himself and his family.
> >
>
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As promised, the struggle continues and here it is......
This time, it is the cowards at the daily observer joining their
colleagues at GRTS. What a bunch. I am urging all decent
human beings (NOT THE BLOODY SOLDIERS)! to boycott the readership of the so called NEWSPAPER!
Gambia can never develop if the truth is so difficult to come by.
But why is it so difficult??? All the so called prayers and being
religious and stuff??? Yet still the truth cannot come out. What
are we waiting for??? but we should look around us, Senegal, Indonesia,
Malawi and the list goes on, you cannot keep the truth from the
people for so long. One fine day, there will be light at the end
of the tunnel and the Culprits shall account for their murderous behaviour!!!!!!!
I do not want to waste space talking about the DAILY OBSERVER but
i can only add that the role they have played in this episode has
been nothing short of DISGUST AND DEPREVATION!!!!! They might not
know it, but misinforming those people that give you your bread
and butter is as grave a crime as any other......How could you report
that the post mortem said that young Ebrima Barry died of natural
causes?????How in Allah's name could you??????????? Don't u guys
have a conscience......He could have been your brother, son, nephew or relative!!!!!!!!
I would have ended by saying that a word to the wise is enough,
but to those fools disguising themselves as soldiers and jounalists,
there is an exception to the rule!!!!!!!!! Words are never enough
here to make you understand the carnage you have caused. What can
be said is ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and in the name of Allah, the truth
shall prevail, for the soul of Umar Barrow has been laid to rest
today and we pray that he enters the gates of heaven and throw light
onto the darkness we are in for the truth to be seen.......... MAY
HIS SOUL REST IN PERFECT PEACE ....AMEN!!!!
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Dear Halifa,
I still do not expect these people ( the government) to accept
responsibility.
Time and again they have always shy away from the truth. Up till now we are
waiting for Koro Ceesay's investigation which they promise. My question is
Halifa, is it not time that the Civil servants stay away from work until the
government
comes back to it sense?
As I have read on the GRTS page they are all busy from vice president to
Army
commander denying the truth. Also Halifa, they alleged that they have
release the students
they detained could you please confirm that statement if possible.
Thanks
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WE IN FINLAND/HELSINKI WOULD LIKE TO KNOW OF THE DETAILS OF THIS GRAND
DEMONSTRATION HENCE WE'VE A CONSULATE IN TOWN. tHE GUY REPRESENTING US HERE
DOES'NT EVEN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BAKAU AND BANJUL, I WONDER WHERE
THEY FOUND HIM...OR MAYBE, HE IS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY SOS SARJO JALLOW CUZ
HE'S A SWEDISH SPEAKING FINN WITH A HORRIBLE COMMAND OF ENGLISH...JUST A
THOUGHT SINCE IT'S OUR OFFICIAL LANGUAGE...
NB: FINNISH MEMBERS CAN CONTACT ME DIRECTLY SO THAT WE CAN COORDINATE OUR
ACTION PLAN...
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Gambia L,
I am sending these extracts from the e-mails I received today from the
Gambia, on the Gambian situation.
Ebrima Ceesay
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Ebrima,
The Head of the International Red Cross is in Banjul and attended the
funeral of Omar Barrow yesterday morning. The only body released thus far
because of his affiliation, of course, with both the Red Cross and Sud FM
Radio.
An international Red Cross official vowed to stay in Banjul until he gets
all the facts surrounding the carnage. SoS Ousman Badgie claimed this
morning that he ordered the firing of rubber bullets and argued that that's
what the security forces fired and not life bullets.
This is the type of disinformation campaign that really gets people mad as
hell. Why can't these people speak the truth for once. IT IS AN INSULT ON
THE INTELLIGENCE OF THE GAMBIAN PEOPLE. I saw a circular to the effect that
Yaya Jammeh should return today (Thursday). But the circular was not very
clear in terms of the exact time that he should get to Banjul.
I also understand that the British tourists have been advised by their
Government to stay away from The Gambia. Where are we headed to, Ebrima?
Check with the Foreign Office. The ensuing hardship facing The Gambian
people is beyond imagination. As for Yaya AJJ Jammeh's e-mail address
and/phone number, you should forget them, because he and his so-called
Cabinet change their numbers more frequently than they change their under
pants. By the way, don't call my office, keep calling the mobile. And expect
more e-mails from me.
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Dear Ebrima,
I'm sending you a quick transcript of the notes I made when talking to
my friend who is a doctor at the RVH and who has been on duty at RVH from
Monday - Thursday afternoon continuous.
He reports 28 in Intensive care unit (many with gunshots wounds to the
school) - all these cases have life-threatening injuries
50 seriously injured on 2 wards: many amputations carried out.
14 confirmed dead in the mortuary - bodies still not released as of 4pm
yesterday. And the dead counted does include the dead which occured in the
provinces.
People are now calling for immediate stepping down of Army Chief of Staff,
Minister of Interior, Inspector General of Police. They also want the
immmediate release of all GAMSU leaders (and all other students).
Across the country the feeling is FOR the students (many APRC are either
saying nothing, or speaking openly against the government).
In Banjul, it's very difficult for ordinary people to move around. My
secretary's sister who is also a nurse was stopped 3 times going from RVH to
catch a transport at top of Independence Avenue: she and 2 other student
nurses (all covered in dead students' blood) were questioned intensively by
the Army.
No police presence seen around RVH - only army personnel. NO-ONE can now
get close to RVH.
It's judged that the next most difficult time will be the arrival back
home of Jammeh. People are still threatening to line the roads in their
thousands, and the army is saying they will shoot !
God help The Gambia.
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Hello Ebrima,
Banjul is very, very quiet and very, very tense. From Atlantic Hotel,
you can see RVH and many families are still waiting outside the mortuary and
also the main entrance to have news of their children who may/may not be
there.
People are crying, and the paramilitaries are constantly patrolling up and
down. People believe that the body of the Red Cross worker was removed early
yesterday morning and taken to Serrekunda/Red Cross
for burial.
Also ordinary people in The Gambia are dependent upon rumour and word of
mouth to get the truth: no-one believes the State Office
announcements on GRTS nor most of what was reported in The Observer.
People generally are very angry because the government does
not seem to want to accept any responsibility for the awful things that have
happened/are happening in The Gambia.
People are just waiting until the president returns from Cuba, and
then there will be more trouble.
Many students (and other people in population at large) are planning to
stand silently at the road side today when Jammeh returns from Cuba, but
that the army/police have given instructions that they will clear the
streets of any people. Trouble coming ????
Ordinary Gambians are very seriously disturbed at the terrible events which
are unfolding. People on the street are angry that Jammeh and his
Government are trying to pass the entire blame onto the student group.
No-one believes that the students deserved what they received - after
all, they were unarmed except for stones and fire: the paramilitary
were armed with tear gas, rubber bullets, blanks and live ammunition.
People in Banjul and Greater Banjul area are sickened by what has happened,
and fearful for the future peace of our beloved Homeland.
"God help The Gambia" is the prayer of ordinary people here.
What sadness to be bringing you this e mail Ebrima. I can hardly
believe what is happening, and I am praying for peace with justice.
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Thousands Attend Omar Barrow's Funeral
Thousands of mourners yesterday afternoon gathered at the Latrikunda
Yiringagnia Mosque at the funeral of Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer who
was shot to death while helping wounded and fleeing students inside the Red
Cross headquarters premises, during Monday's student demonstration
Mr Barrow was also the editor at Sud FM radio station in Banjul. His remains
were interred at the Latrikunda cemetery at 3pm.There were dramatic scenes
of outpouring of grief. Many mourners, particularly among his colleagues in
the Red Cross, collapsed and fainted due to the odd mix of grief and heat
from the blazing sun.
Loud wailings and moans punctuated the long eulogies.Andrew Jarju, acting
secretary general of the Gambia Red Cross Society, described Barrow as "a
committed and dedicated volunteer, always willing to render service when
needed."
Sheikh Lewis, head of a local human rights group, said Barrow's death was a
murder most foul. "I call on Imams to pray so that Government will have
sympathy for its people," he said.
A relation of Omar Barrow from Brufut, said, "When the president returns, we
will have to sit with him and tell him security officials should protect and
respect Gambians."
Imam Momodou Lamin Drammeh described Omar Barrow as a "shahid" (martyr) in
the cause of humanity and said heaven awaits him.He also reminded the
gathering of the Qur'anic verses that every creature shall have to die and
that none shall exceed a second living.
Cherif el-Valide Sy, head of the Sud group, Cherno Jallow and Swaebou
Conateh of the Gambia Press Union, the alkalo of Latrikunda and many other
people acquainted with Barrow spoke at the funeral.
Omar Barrow is survived by wife, Awa Sanneh-Barrow and a seven month-old
daughter, Fatou (named after his colleague at Sud FM).The wife of the
Latrikunda imam, testifying to Omar Barrow's virtues said,
"Only last week, he volunteered and gave me his blood while I was admitted
at the RVH."Well, he also gave his blood and life for the principles of
helping humanity.
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It is always hard being in an African organisation without relative or
closed friends.I am positive that Mr saidy is following orders to secure
his job like anyone on the list would have done.Disobeying your boss means
your dismisssal in our system, and non of us in the list will consider
Tonbong if dismissed.We were all once workers in the Gambia and know how
it was like.As I always said;we are all opportunist one way or the
other,but we hardly see our own opportunistic behaviours.There are people
on the list whose relatives are in the government but after the Ebou saga
no one dears to tourch him on the L and they are among the heads of the
government.Insult was not constitutional in this forum, but recently
people were off-tracked.
It is very sound talking about abuses of power in the country by Yahya and
colleages,which should be addressed to stopped immetiately by any means.I
don't know what help will it be attacking Tonbong and the ambassador for
working to earn their livings.You are insulting your own brother(Gambian)
you have never met without sound grounds, just because he or she happen to
working for the government you don't like is undemocratic. So let us
practise that we are preaching and stop this childish acts of attacking
each other. If this forum is a Government, will it be democratic? hell;I
doubt it. Sorry If I offended anyone,I am speaking my mind as a Gambian
too.
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Gambia-L:
Below is the statement of the Vice President on the massacre of UNARMED
students by her ARMED security forces. Reading this would only make you sick
to the stomach. those of you who don't have a strong stomach for LIES should
just DELETE. What does it profit you to gain Jammeh's favour only to lose
your soul? What has happened to conscience? Dammit........... And now, as
anticipated, the spin is that opposition parties were behind it all. See
attached below already they have begun arresting opposition figures. But
Gambia-L, this will be the story that is unspinnable as they are learning
much to their chagrin.
Hamjatta
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VP Says Shooting Started From Demonstrators
In her first public statement since the bloody student demonstrations, Monday
and Tuesday, the vice president, Isatou Njie-Saidy, last night addressed the
nation. The full text of her speech is reproduced below.
Fellow Gambians,Following the unfortunate incident of last Monday in which
our school children led by Gamsu and other unscrupulous people in the society
decided to wreak havoc on the whole country, on behalf of His Excellency, The
President, Government and people of the Gambia, I wish to express our deepest
and heartfelt sympathy and condolence to the parents and families of the dead
and wounded. It is indeed very sad and regrettable that within a period of
three years, students have decided to go on the rampage for the fourth time
causing untold damage and loss of property, and in this instance loss of
lives. Contrary to the erroneous belief that the shooting started from the
security forces on the ground, it is confirmed that in fact the shooting
started from within the demonstrators, since the security forces only had
blank ammunitions, tear gas, batons and shields at the time.I also wish to
assure you of Government's concern and primary duty to maintain the peace and
stability of the country in the interest and welfare of the entire
population, and for the development of The Gambia as nation.
It must be understood that a fundamental condition for development in any
country is that an atmosphere of security and stability is maintained by the
state. It is only when potential instability is checked and brought under
firm control, and the security environment has become stable, that
development programmes can be carried out and the general welfare of the
people ensured.You are all aware that within the last five years, this
government has invested substantially in education, health, agriculture and
other sectors of the economy. We are all living witnesses to the massive
expansion of educational infrastructure and services at all levels throughout
the country, including the establishment of a university for the first time,
where most of the students enjoy full scholarship. This has been made
possible through the support of both public and private institutions and
individuals, including the establishment of an Educational Trust Fund under
the Office of The President. The parastatal institutions, in particular the
Gambia Telecommunications Company Ltd. (Gamtel), have contributed immense
resources towards the education of a significant number of students at all
strata of the society. In fact the board of directors of Gamtel has recently
approved an increase of 40% on their education fund.Despite all this
sacrifice from Government and the parastatals, it is indeed very
disheartening that the students led by Gamsu and other unscrupulous people
have willfully carried out such massive destruction of useful facilities,
thus depriving everyone of their essential services.
Fellow Gambians,I wish to appeal to all, particularly community and religious
leaders during this period of grief and sorrow, to offer prayers for the
deceased and the speedy recovery of the injured. Let us also pray for peace
and reconciliation, and embark on a healing process to enhance our cherished
virtues of tolerance and peaceful co-existence that The Gambia has always
been renowned for. In the same vein, we wish to urge the media to engage in
objective reporting during this difficult and trying period.Finally, as
mentioned in our previous press release of Tuesday, 11 April 2000, the
unfortunate death of Ebrima Barry has been given all the attention and
urgency it deserves, by the department of state for Justice. Let me reiterate
that investigations have been completed, the suspects interrogated are
presently remanded in custody. The case has been registered in court and the
due process of the law will be observed.Once again, I wish to appeal to the
general public and Gambians in particular, to re-orientate our thinking and
behaviour towards patriotism and sense of belonging.
I thank you all for your (readership).
.
National Assembly member arrested
Buba Samura, the UDP National Assembly member for Kiang East, was arrested by
the police early yesterday morning in Brikama.His arrest was said to have
been in connection with the student riots Monday.
Eyewitnesses said Mr Samura was arrested while on his way to Banjul. Our
sources said the vehicle which he was on board was followed by a motor
cyclist identified as a security agent around Gambia College. The driver of
the vehicle was instructed to drive back to Brikama police station with the
passengers.
Upon their arrival at the station, Mr Samura was ordered by the police to
alight.Sources close to the police intimated that Mr Samura was told by the
police that he was overheard commending the students for their actions and
saying that it was President Jammeh's misrule which had caused the riots.
Family members pointed out that all their efforts to see or speak to Mr
Samura bore nought. His younger brother, Omar Samura, told Daily Observer
that few hours after his arrest, he was taken from Brikama police station "to
where, we don't know."
Meanwhile, about 30 students were arrested in Brikama on Tuesday. A group of
parents told Daily Observer that they were denied access to see their
children in custody.
.
hkanteh
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Jaama,
You fail to realise that the woman may be our Vice President but, she =
was definitely NOT, I repeat NOT, borned in the Gambia. She is devoid of =
the tenderness that we know of Gambian-born mothers.
Take it from me, she is NOT a Gambian by birth.
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Well, the lies are coming in thick and fast!!!!!! Did we all hear
the interior minister say that he did not know who shot the students
and that there was no live bullets!!!!!! I cannot beleive what i
heard!!!!!! Brothers and Sisters we are in deep trouble....Deep,Deep
trouble, i say....... did he expect educated and liberal folks to
beleive what he said????? surely he must be on something(well they =
always are)!!!!!
For Madame Vice President, Well what can u say??? Never before have
i seen such a decent lady turned into a robot. She is worse that
a character in Video game controlled by a joystick!!! One of those
Street Fighter super nintendo lot!!!!!! The Madame was heartless
as if she had no kids!!!! I know she has =
though!!!!!!!Unbelievable!!!!!!
As for Ebrima Sillah of the BBC, i am totally sickened by his =
attitude.
How could Robin White ask you who the nation was siding with and
u responded by saying that "well it is difficult to tell" You have
lost the deep respect i had for you..... How difficult is it????
Check the voiceout, Gambia-l, Listen to the radios and just look
at the faces of the average gambian and the answer is staring you
right in the face.. The Gambians and the world alike side with the
poor students cause what they stood for is actually what all the
adults feel but the students had the guts to stand up for their =
right!!!!!!
Mr sillah,you have been bestowed with a powerfool tool. Use it wisely
for the sake of our fallen brothers and sisters..... The truth is
what is needed. Stop beating about the bush!!!!!!!
Let us not despair, Allah and the whole nation is on the side of
the students..... The truth shall come out.......
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Dave Manneh,
thanks for the info, suggestions and update. I have started talking to
those folks in the Southeast area who are not online about the plans. Perhaps
we should appoint co-ordinating committee which would liaise with scattered
Gambian community in the UK. The rest of you out there what do you make of
the situation. This is the time of solidarity with our folks back home. UK
Gambia-Lers come out of your hibernation please!!!!!!!
Hamjatta
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Abdul Drammeh,
Yes, there is a demonstration planned in London for those of us in the UK,
but, presently, I do not have the details.
However, it is being coordinated by Brothers James Bahoum, Malick Kah, Wassa
and Njok Malick. So if you call Malick Kah on his mobile phone 07 93 90 16
206, he would surely give you all the details.
Ebrima Ceesay
Birmingham, UK.
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>Hi there,
>
>Those of us in the UK will there be a demonstration in London?
>I live in Oxford and am not in a good position to spear head one
>but count me and my friends we will be in london for a demonstration.
>
>A.A.Drammeh
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Hamjatta,
As you know them when they mess up, it is the opposition, to be precise the
UDP.
I told a friend on Monday that the next thing is they will drag Waa Juwara
and co soon.
As for VP's statement it is a disgrace that she had to lie to the whole
Gambia.
ZIZ.
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From: "Hamjatta Kanteh" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 2:56 PM
Subject: VP's Statement And The Endless Mssaaging Of The Truth
> Gambia-L:
> Below is the statement of the Vice President on the massacre of
UNARMED
> students by her ARMED security forces. Reading this would only make you
sick
> to the stomach. those of you who don't have a strong stomach for LIES
should
> just DELETE. What does it profit you to gain Jammeh's favour only to lose
> your soul? What has happened to conscience? Dammit........... And now, as
> anticipated, the spin is that opposition parties were behind it all. See
> attached below already they have begun arresting opposition figures. But
> Gambia-L, this will be the story that is unspinnable as they are learning
> much to their chagrin.
> Hamjatta
>
> ********************************************************
> VP Says Shooting Started From Demonstrators
>
>
>
> In her first public statement since the bloody student demonstrations,
Monday
> and Tuesday, the vice president, Isatou Njie-Saidy, last night addressed
the
> nation. The full text of her speech is reproduced below.
>
> Fellow Gambians,Following the unfortunate incident of last Monday in which
> our school children led by Gamsu and other unscrupulous people in the
society
> decided to wreak havoc on the whole country, on behalf of His Excellency,
The
> President, Government and people of the Gambia, I wish to express our
deepest
> and heartfelt sympathy and condolence to the parents and families of the
dead
> and wounded. It is indeed very sad and regrettable that within a period of
> three years, students have decided to go on the rampage for the fourth
time
> causing untold damage and loss of property, and in this instance loss of
> lives. Contrary to the erroneous belief that the shooting started from the
> security forces on the ground, it is confirmed that in fact the shooting
> started from within the demonstrators, since the security forces only had
> blank ammunitions, tear gas, batons and shields at the time.I also wish to
> assure you of Government's concern and primary duty to maintain the peace
and
> stability of the country in the interest and welfare of the entire
> population, and for the development of The Gambia as nation.
>
> It must be understood that a fundamental condition for development in any
> country is that an atmosphere of security and stability is maintained by
the
> state. It is only when potential instability is checked and brought under
> firm control, and the security environment has become stable, that
> development programmes can be carried out and the general welfare of the
> people ensured.You are all aware that within the last five years, this
> government has invested substantially in education, health, agriculture
and
> other sectors of the economy. We are all living witnesses to the massive
> expansion of educational infrastructure and services at all levels
throughout
> the country, including the establishment of a university for the first
time,
> where most of the students enjoy full scholarship. This has been made
> possible through the support of both public and private institutions and
> individuals, including the establishment of an Educational Trust Fund
under
> the Office of The President. The parastatal institutions, in particular
the
> Gambia Telecommunications Company Ltd. (Gamtel), have contributed immense
> resources towards the education of a significant number of students at all
> strata of the society. In fact the board of directors of Gamtel has
recently
> approved an increase of 40% on their education fund.Despite all this
> sacrifice from Government and the parastatals, it is indeed very
> disheartening that the students led by Gamsu and other unscrupulous people
> have willfully carried out such massive destruction of useful facilities,
> thus depriving everyone of their essential services.
>
> Fellow Gambians,I wish to appeal to all, particularly community and
religious
> leaders during this period of grief and sorrow, to offer prayers for the
> deceased and the speedy recovery of the injured. Let us also pray for
peace
> and reconciliation, and embark on a healing process to enhance our
cherished
> virtues of tolerance and peaceful co-existence that The Gambia has always
> been renowned for. In the same vein, we wish to urge the media to engage
in
> objective reporting during this difficult and trying period.Finally, as
> mentioned in our previous press release of Tuesday, 11 April 2000, the
> unfortunate death of Ebrima Barry has been given all the attention and
> urgency it deserves, by the department of state for Justice. Let me
reiterate
> that investigations have been completed, the suspects interrogated are
> presently remanded in custody. The case has been registered in court and
the
> due process of the law will be observed.Once again, I wish to appeal to
the
> general public and Gambians in particular, to re-orientate our thinking
and
> behaviour towards patriotism and sense of belonging.
>
> I thank you all for your (readership).
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> National Assembly member arrested
> Buba Samura, the UDP National Assembly member for Kiang East, was arrested
by
> the police early yesterday morning in Brikama.His arrest was said to have
> been in connection with the student riots Monday.
>
> Eyewitnesses said Mr Samura was arrested while on his way to Banjul. Our
> sources said the vehicle which he was on board was followed by a motor
> cyclist identified as a security agent around Gambia College. The driver
of
> the vehicle was instructed to drive back to Brikama police station with th
e
> passengers.
>
> Upon their arrival at the station, Mr Samura was ordered by the police to
> alight.Sources close to the police intimated that Mr Samura was told by
the
> police that he was overheard commending the students for their actions and
> saying that it was President Jammeh's misrule which had caused the riots.
>
> Family members pointed out that all their efforts to see or speak to Mr
> Samura bore nought. His younger brother, Omar Samura, told Daily Observer
> that few hours after his arrest, he was taken from Brikama police station
"to
> where, we don't know."
>
> Meanwhile, about 30 students were arrested in Brikama on Tuesday. A group
of
> parents told Daily Observer that they were denied access to see their
> children in custody.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
> hkanteh
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Hamjatta,
I think most Gambians are going to turn up. Keep up the good job
get more people.
Thanks
Ziz.
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> Dave Manneh,
> thanks for the info, suggestions and update. I have started talking to
> those folks in the Southeast area who are not online about the plans.
Perhaps
> we should appoint co-ordinating committee which would liaise with
scattered
> Gambian community in the UK. The rest of you out there what do you make of
> the situation. This is the time of solidarity with our folks back home. UK
> Gambia-Lers come out of your hibernation please!!!!!!!
> Hamjatta
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Ebrima,
Thanks for the update, I am sure i will get more people to turn out there.
I will also try and contact Malick asap.
Thanks
A.Drammeh.
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> Abdul Drammeh,
>
> Yes, there is a demonstration planned in London for those of us in the UK,
> but, presently, I do not have the details.
>
> However, it is being coordinated by Brothers James Bahoum, Malick Kah,
Wassa
> and Njok Malick. So if you call Malick Kah on his mobile phone 07 93 90 16
> 206, he would surely give you all the details.
>
> Ebrima Ceesay
> Birmingham, UK.
>
>
>
> >From: abdul aziz drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: abdul aziz drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Call to Action! - Washington DC
> >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:43:43 +0100
> >
> >Hi there,
> >
> >Those of us in the UK will there be a demonstration in London?
> >I live in Oxford and am not in a good position to spear head one
> >but count me and my friends we will be in london for a demonstration.
> >
> >A.A.Drammeh
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G-L,
I just spoke with a friend who called Gambia today and was told the following:
*Soldiers had gone into some classrooms and beaten students who were in the
process of taking an exam, and had them do monkey dances.
* The dead bodies of students are begining to decompose and Yaya Jammeh has
ordered that no one be buried until he returns from whereever he is.
* One mother went to claim her dead child, and was detained by the soldiers
and put in jail.
* The Soldiers have held a press conference this morning stating that it was
the students who had weapons.
* There is some speculation that the soldiers who opened fire on the
students are ex-rebels from Casamance.
PLEASE NOTE: I am sure i read on the L last week or so, that Tombong Saidy
was on the board (or something like that) of Amnesty International in Gambia.
Someone please confirm this. If this is true, we will have to include a
petition to Amnesty protesting this in the strictest terms, and demanding his
removal forthwith. If true, this would be akin to electing the wolf to guard
the sheep.
I predicted yesterday that the denials had already ben started by Essa Bokar
Sey in his posts. Now, they have the audacity to say the students had the
weapons. This is an outrage of the worst kind. These criminals who have
high-jacked our country must be brought before an international court of law
to answer for their crimes. Their ridiculous denials will serve as
incriminating evidence once compared to the facts.These bullets must be
extracted from the bodies of those shot, and tests done to determine which
weapons infact fired the fatal shots.
Jabou Joh
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Folks,
Can someone help me with the addresss or tel.no of the widow of the late =
Omar Barrow? I `m particularly thinking of the seven month old baby who =
has been denied a provider. I`ve been in touch with friends here and =
should be able to work out something.
Regards,
Omar.=20
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Emne: Action Now!!
>Gambia-l:
>
>Other than making monetary contributions and raising funds, I plan to =
attend any meetings or demonstrations in Tennessee, Georgia, the =
Carolinas, Ohio, Kentucky, and the Washington, DC area.
> We can't let Jammeh and his gang of wild animals prevail any more. =
We got to rid The Gambia of the Aimless People Ruining our Country.
>
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Of callousness, mourning and uncertainty
Old habits die hard. Equally, some excesses of government are simply
unstoppable. Even irremediable. They remain still in the calmness of time
and circumstances, but resurface with even more disastrous consequences,
each time those in leadership demonstrate capability of insanity and
wantonness towards societal concerns and agitations. Senseless killings are
a part of the amalgam of everything devilish that the military coup of July
22, 1994, has come to represent.
Which is why scant or no astonishment, should greet the recent macabre
deaths of demonstrating Gambian schoolchildren. Or may be one should raise
eyebrows after all. Time was, not long ago, when extra-judicial killings in
The Gambia were mainly restricted within the army barracks, where torture
and summary executions awaited real or imagined, coupists. Not anymore. Now,
the contagious effects of soldier-killings in the barracks have spilt over
into the greater society, leaving everybody, including schoolchildren, prone
to the egregious conduct of government and its constituencies. The last
thing the Gambian people could ever have fathomed, was the onslaught of a
phalanx of trigger-happy paramilitary forces on unarmed schoolchildren,
leaving scores dead and maimed.
The killings, shocking and brutal as they were, reflect a familiar trait of
a coarse political environment, unstoppable in its churning of unspeakable
miseries against the Gambian people. But that has become the tossed salad of
Jammehism. If there is any unique characteristic of President Yahya Jammeh's
despotism, is its unremitting capacity to generate unprecendented
monstrosities, and as a consequence, simmering mass hysteria. And
dissonance.
If Jammeh's arrival on the political scene in 1994, heightened Gambian
optimism, he has now equally or even more, sullied that optimism,
supplanting it with national pessimism and hopelessness, cascading into
every facet of Gambain society. Under Jammeh, The Gambia has reeled, times
without number, under brutalities that defied public imagination and sanity.
Just four months into power, tens of officers of the GNA perished in an ogre
of summary executions. Their remains have still not been found. Gambians
mourned.
A minister, Ousman Koro Ceesay, went missing, never to be seen again. He was
allegedly kidnapped and driven in his official car to a distant bush, killed
and burnt inside his car. No amount of words can describe the national pain
and shock that attended the gruesome death of Koro on that day. Gambians
mourned again.
Dr. Momodou Njie narrowly escaped death at the hands of armed "kidnappers"
on Denton Bridge. In typical gangster-style, his car was trailed and blocked
on the bridge; his attackers stabbed him multiple times. Lamin Waa Juwara
survived many attempted kidnappings. Other people, too. Gambians wondered
whatever happened to normal sanity and decency.
As recently as three months ago, Gambians mourned yet again. Two alleged
coupists died, one succumbed to a hail of bullets after a column of
gun-toting soldiers pursued him, like a wolf does its quarry, to the Banjul
Albert Market, snuffing out his life in the most inhumane manner. Civility
and restraint are two of the numerous missing ingredients for responsible
leadership in The Gambia today.
Which explains the recent tragic fracas between the students and the
paramilitary forces. It is within the ambits of the law to demonstrate and
express misgivings about societal realities. It is, however, tyrannical and
dangerous to put a stopper to legitimate agitations propelled by simmering
discontentment. Worse, spray bullets on unarmed, innocent schoolchildren,
killing them with impunity. The demonstrating students had the right to vent
their dissent;they were reading into history - of the APRC's litany of human
rights abuses, its contempt for the rule of law and its dilly-dallying on
investigations into legitimate public concerns. What has happened to the
investigation into the mysterious death of Ousman Koro Ceesay?
Questions multiply. Has justice been dispensed for the Guinean immigrant
Amadou Jallow, who was bayoneted to death by soldiers? Has the soldier who
killed the youngman resting on the beaches been arraigned yet? Did Baba
Jobe, who allegedly pulled a gun at two airport security officers, face the
law? Why have Shyngle Nyassi's abductors not been brought to book? Do you
recall the tortures unleashed on the UDP militants? Has the government
investigated these crimes? Mariama Sey recently complained of abuse at the
hands of soldiers. Is she ever going to have her offenders found, let alone
prosecuted? Why is the APRC government reluctant to investigate into The
Gambia's "missing millions" and the recent dubious crude oil deal?
Failure, reluctance actually, on the part of the APRC government to mount
investigations into its abuses and dispense justice to the public, was a
poignant reminder to the students that waiting for justice from the APRC was
like waiting for Godot. It will never arrive or if it does, rather
belatedly. Like a burning candle in the wind, confidence in the APRC
government is sagging fast. Thus, the student demonstration is simply a
by-product of the betrayal of trust and responsibility on the part of the
APRC, to create a just society
thriving on good leadership and true democracy.
Yet, in more style than substance, the Office of the President,incapable of
remorse and accountability, has blamed GAMSU
for the recent carnage. What fatuous nonesense. It is only a person with a
kinky addiction for self-flagellation, who will blame the students, victims
of rampaging, trigger-happy paramilitary troops, who pulled triggers with
impunity. The students demonstrated because of legitimate reasons. And it
turned violent because coercive measures were used to suppress the
agitations of the students. He who tries to squeeze the safety-valve
inherits an explosion.
Blame should go to Jammeh's leadership,the epitome of bad governance and
incendiary politics, aggravating rather than lessening, the coarsening of
political consciousness and behaviour. In a stage-managed
publicity-gimmickry, shamelessly called an interview, with GRTS' Neneh
Mcdonell, after the recent alleged coup plot, the president is at his best:
temperamental, repellent, more loquacious than profound. Jolting between
swings of moods,his eyes half-closed, face, an unimpressive sight of fuming
rage, and basking in an aura of self-perpetuating invincibility, Jammeh
warns Gambians that "heads will roll." There will be no mercy, he stresses.
And he tells his countrymen that he is still the "same Yahya Jammeh," has
not changed a bit. Translation: the tender mercies of the civilian
presidency have failed to pacify Jammeh's repulsive militaristic tendencies.
With a presidential vocabulary bereft of sanity and couched in threats and
extremities, little wonder then paramilitary forces can now shoot and kill
even schoolchildren. The absolutism emanating from the State House is giving
impetus to unchecked political insanity in the country.
Condign punishment for the killers and compensatory justice for the victims,
should not only be obtainable through judicial intervention, but also by a
complete overhaul of the political system, making it democratic rather than
tyrannical. But that is more imaginary than realistic. Given Jammeh's
intransigence and his leadership's propensity for bestiality, meaningful
political changes will continue to elude the national collective.
The Gambia is on a knife-edge.
Cherno Baba Jallow
Detroit, MI
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Mr Sidibeh,
With all due respect some jobs are just not worth the "dough". If someone willingly
serves under a corrupt and murderous government (as these guys are) then
one has to be prepared to be responsible for the actions of that government.
I personally think there is one point you and possibly these guys are deluding yourselves
with, if Tombong or the good ambassador don't realize that working with murderers,
butchers and COWARDS ( I write cowards in bold, for we can all remember when just a
couple of MEN WITHOUT guns made these "pillocks" vacate their barrack in Farafeni
within 5 minutes with their tails between their legs) contradicts human decency, then god help us.
I promised not to be too emotional, but I just damn can't .If Tombong and the good ambassador
are good god- fearing men, then they should resign from this murderous band of mad men and
women driving our dear nation to the abyss forthwith. If they have an iota of decency in them,
their resignation letters would be waiting for the world's biggest "twerp" when he gets out of his
slumber (and realizes that a dozen young people have just been murdered by his henchmen, and
that warrants him to leave Cuba for home) when he finally decides to go back home!!
Till then please spare us this rubbish of them being decent and also our brothers. I will not speak
to my own brother or my mum for that reason, if she serves under these dogs. And hey, I would not
keep the job even if my family has to eat dirt!!
Throughout the history of mankind countless men have sacrificed their lives of privileges for
the truth. Mandela had to endure over a quarter of a century of incarceration, but he knew the
price was worth paying. He is a decent man. So did Gandhi, and a countless others people.
Sometimes one's personal sacrifice for the good of all outweighs everything else. If your "brothers"
are so decent why the hell does anyone have to spell that out to them??
Have a good day.
Manneh
edi sidibeh wrote:
> It is always hard being in an African organisation without relative or
> closed friends.I am positive that Mr saidy is following orders to secure
> his job like anyone on the list would have done.Disobeying your boss means
> your dismisssal in our system, and non of us in the list will consider
> Tonbong if dismissed.We were all once workers in the Gambia and know how
> it was like.As I always said;we are all opportunist one way or the
> other,but we hardly see our own opportunistic behaviours.There are people
> on the list whose relatives are in the government but after the Ebou saga
> no one dears to tourch him on the L and they are among the heads of the
> government.Insult was not constitutional in this forum, but recently
> people were off-tracked.
>
> It is very sound talking about abuses of power in the country by Yahya and
> colleages,which should be addressed to stopped immetiately by any means.I
> don't know what help will it be attacking Tonbong and the ambassador for
> working to earn their livings.You are insulting your own brother(Gambian)
> you have never met without sound grounds, just because he or she happen to
> working for the government you don't like is undemocratic. So let us
> practise that we are preaching and stop this childish acts of attacking
> each other. If this forum is a Government, will it be democratic? hell;I
> doubt it. Sorry If I offended anyone,I am speaking my mind as a Gambian
> too.
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> EDI LK SIDIBEH NAAKANTIE 2C9
> DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS & ADMINISTRATION 48320 KOTKA
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Mr Sidibeh,
<br> With all due respect some jobs are just not worth
the "dough". If someone willingly
<br>serves under a corrupt and murderous government (as these guys are)
then
<br>one has to be prepared to be responsible for the actions of that government.
<p>I personally think there is one point you and possibly these guys are
deluding yourselves
<br>with, if Tombong or the good ambassador don't realize that working
with murderers,
<br>butchers and COWARDS ( I write cowards in bold, for we can all remember
when just a
<br>couple of MEN WITHOUT guns made these "pillocks" vacate their barrack
in Farafeni
<br>within 5 minutes with their tails between their legs) contradicts human
decency, then god help us.
<p>I promised not to be too emotional, but I just damn can't .If Tombong
and the good ambassador
<br>are good god- fearing men, then they should resign from this murderous
band of mad men and
<br>women driving our dear nation to the abyss forthwith. If they have
an iota of decency in them,
<br>their resignation letters would be waiting for the world's biggest
"twerp" when he gets out of his
<br>slumber (and realizes that a dozen young people have just been murdered
by his henchmen, and
<br>that warrants him to leave Cuba for home) when he finally decides to
go back home!!
<p>Till then please spare us this rubbish of them being decent and also
our brothers. I will not speak
<br>to my own brother or my mum for that reason, if she serves under these
dogs. And hey, I would not
<br>keep the job even if my family has to eat dirt!!
<p>Throughout the history of mankind countless men have sacrificed their
lives of privileges for
<br>the truth. Mandela had to endure over a quarter of a century of incarceration,
but he knew the
<br>price was worth paying. He is a decent man. So did Gandhi, and a countless
others people.
<br>Sometimes one's personal sacrifice for the good of all outweighs everything
else. If your "brothers"
<br>are so decent why the hell does anyone have to spell that out to them??
<p>Have a good day.
<p><a href="[log in to unmask]">Manneh</a>
<br>
<br>
<p>edi sidibeh wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>It is always hard being in an African organisation
without relative or
<br>closed friends.I am positive that Mr saidy is following orders to secure
<br>his job like anyone on the list would have done.Disobeying your boss
means
<br>your dismisssal in our system, and non of us in the list will consider
<br>Tonbong if dismissed.We were all once workers in the Gambia and know
how
<br>it was like.As I always said;we are all opportunist one way or the
<br>other,but we hardly see our own opportunistic behaviours.There are
people
<br>on the list whose relatives are in the government but after the Ebou
saga
<br>no one dears to tourch him on the L and they are among the heads of
the
<br>government.Insult was not constitutional in this forum, but recently
<br>people were off-tracked.
<p>It is very sound talking about abuses of power in the country by Yahya
and
<br>colleages,which should be addressed to stopped immetiately by any means.I
<br>don't know what help will it be attacking Tonbong and the ambassador
for
<br>working to earn their livings.You are insulting your own brother(Gambian)
<br>you have never met without sound grounds, just because he or she happen
to
<br>working for the government you don't like is undemocratic. So let us
<br>practise that we are preaching and stop this childish acts of attacking
<br>each other. If this forum is a Government, will it be democratic? hell;I
<br>doubt it. Sorry If I offended anyone,I am speaking my mind as a Gambian
<br>too.
<p>__________________________________________________________________
<br>EDI LK SIDIBEH
NAAKANTIE 2C9
<br>DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS & ADMINISTRATION
48320 KOTKA
<br>KYMENLAAKSO POLYTECHNIQUE
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Thomas Forster,
In my view, this is not the appropriate time to debate your Uganda friend on
whether or not Uganda is a one-party State. This is a mourning period, and I
can tell you that all Gambians whose conscience is clear, are mourning the
killings - by the Jammeh thugs - of these innocent students.
When the dust is settled, I'll then shatter your friend's nonsense into
pieces. Meanwhile, let us not divert the issue which is the butchering of
innocent Gambian students by Jammeh's animals calling themselves a
Paramilitary Force.
Ebrima Ceesay
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Greetings to Gambia-L subscribers,
Contrary to the News on GambiaNet 7 Days, Tuesday 11th April on Students
Riots, I wish to inform all subscribers that I never granted interview to
any reporter. I totally disassociate myself from the report of April 11,
2000.
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Wow, After a few trial and errors and using
pathfinders, I got the dictator's email. It is
[log in to unmask]
Please give him no mercy. No mercy at all!!!
regards
Essa Thomas
--- astrid christensen-tasong <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Omar,
> I did go to your website and this is the address
> Yaya used:
>
> [log in to unmask]
>
> Astrid/
>
> >From: omar jabang <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY HAVE
> IT???
> >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:59:48 PDT
> >
> > Hey prince,
> >i think, he did sign our guest book
> "www.Gamraleigh.com" and if i am right
> >his email address should still be there . I am at
> work and cannot access
> >gamraleigh's website right now but go to the guess
> book you might find it
> >there.
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >>From: Prince Obrien-Coker
> <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> list
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY HAVE
> IT???
> >>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:46:15 +0200
> >>
> >>Brothers and Sisters,
> >>In addition to the e-mail address mentioned below
> by Dagma, Yaya has two
> >>other e-mail addresses namely:
> >>
> >>1. [log in to unmask]
> >>2. [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >>Anybody wanting to send him a mail can give my
> greetings to him.
> >>
> >>Prince Coker
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: astrid christensen-tasong
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 8:15 PM
> >> Subject: Re: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY
> HAVE IT???
> >>
> >>
> >> Essa & Sigga,
> >>
> >> This is the address that was posted as Yaya's
> email address. I don't
> >>know
> >> if it's the correct address but you can try.
> >>
> >> ALHAGI YAHYA A.J.J.JAMMEH
> >> mailto:[log in to unmask]
> >>
> >> Astrid/
> >>
> >> >From: tester testers <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues
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> >> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >Subject: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY HAVE
> IT???
> >> >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:44:45 -0700
> >> >
> >> >I AM SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF THIS ADDRESS. DOES
> ANYBODY
> >> >HAVE IT. OR HIS PHONE NUMBER. IF ANYBODY'S
> GOT ONE
> >> >OF THESE, PLEASE MAKE IT AVAILABLE. AT THIS
> JUNCTURE,
> >> >MOST OF WHAT I HAVE IN ME, NEEDS TO BE
> DIRECTED TO HIM
> >> >directly!!!
> >> >
> >> >THANK YOU COMRADES!!!
> >> >
> >> >ESSA THOMAS
> >> >
> >>
> >__________________________________________________
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Omar,
i do not know his number but if you call our compound in latrikunda, you
will be able to get it from them.
The number is 392805. I
A.Drammeh
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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 5:09 PM
Subject: SV: Action Now!!
Folks,
Can someone help me with the addresss or tel.no of the widow of the late
Omar Barrow? I `m particularly thinking of the seven month old baby who has
been denied a provider. I`ve been in touch with friends here and should be
able to work out something.
Regards,
Omar.
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Emne: Action Now!!
>Gambia-l:
>
>Other than making monetary contributions and raising funds, I plan to
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> We can't let Jammeh and his gang of wild animals prevail any more. We
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I'm suggesting that we all send him a personal email
to express how we feel inside. Show no mercy!
Essa
--- tester testers <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Wow, After a few trial and errors and using
> pathfinders, I got the dictator's email. It is
>
> [log in to unmask]
>
> Please give him no mercy. No mercy at all!!!
>
> regards
>
> Essa Thomas
>
> --- astrid christensen-tasong <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > Omar,
> > I did go to your website and this is the address
> > Yaya used:
> >
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Astrid/
> >
> > >From: omar jabang <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY
> HAVE
> > IT???
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:59:48 PDT
> > >
> > > Hey prince,
> > >i think, he did sign our guest book
> > "www.Gamraleigh.com" and if i am right
> > >his email address should still be there . I am at
> > work and cannot access
> > >gamraleigh's website right now but go to the
> guess
> > book you might find it
> > >there.
> > >
> > >thanks
> > >
> > >>From: Prince Obrien-Coker
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > list
> > >><[log in to unmask]>
> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
> > >>Subject: Re: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY
> HAVE
> > IT???
> > >>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:46:15 +0200
> > >>
> > >>Brothers and Sisters,
> > >>In addition to the e-mail address mentioned
> below
> > by Dagma, Yaya has two
> > >>other e-mail addresses namely:
> > >>
> > >>1. [log in to unmask]
> > >>2. [log in to unmask]
> > >>
> > >>Anybody wanting to send him a mail can give my
> > greetings to him.
> > >>
> > >>Prince Coker
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: astrid christensen-tasong
> > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 8:15 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY
> > HAVE IT???
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Essa & Sigga,
> > >>
> > >> This is the address that was posted as Yaya's
> > email address. I don't
> > >>know
> > >> if it's the correct address but you can try.
> > >>
> > >> ALHAGI YAHYA A.J.J.JAMMEH
> > >> mailto:[log in to unmask]
> > >>
> > >> Astrid/
> > >>
> > >> >From: tester testers <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues
> > mailing list
> > >> ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> >Subject: YAYA JAMMEH'S EMAIL-DOES ANYBODY
> HAVE
> > IT???
> > >> >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:44:45 -0700
> > >> >
> > >> >I AM SERIOUSLY IN NEED OF THIS ADDRESS.
> DOES
> > ANYBODY
> > >> >HAVE IT. OR HIS PHONE NUMBER. IF ANYBODY'S
> > GOT ONE
> > >> >OF THESE, PLEASE MAKE IT AVAILABLE. AT THIS
> > JUNCTURE,
> > >> >MOST OF WHAT I HAVE IN ME, NEEDS TO BE
> > DIRECTED TO HIM
> > >> >directly!!!
> > >> >
> > >> >THANK YOU COMRADES!!!
> > >> >
> > >> >ESSA THOMAS
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> >__________________________________________________
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Dave,
Thanks a bunch! No job in the world is worth it. That is precisely the =
problem with us. "I'm just doing my job". What they fail to add is: =
"without my conscience". That's probably because they don't have any, at =
all. I wonder how they can get home and hug their own children whiles =
working for a system that is overseeing the extermination of other =
peoples' children.
Regards.
Kabir
Dave Manneh wrote:
Mr Sidibeh,=20
With all due respect some jobs are just not worth the "dough". If =
someone willingly=20
serves under a corrupt and murderous government (as these guys are) =
then=20
one has to be prepared to be responsible for the actions of that =
government.=20
I personally think there is one point you and possibly these guys are =
deluding yourselves=20
with, if Tombong or the good ambassador don't realize that working =
with murderers,=20
butchers and COWARDS ( I write cowards in bold, for we can all =
remember when just a=20
couple of MEN WITHOUT guns made these "pillocks" vacate their barrack =
in Farafeni=20
within 5 minutes with their tails between their legs) contradicts =
human decency, then god help us.=20
I promised not to be too emotional, but I just damn can't .If Tombong =
and the good ambassador=20
are good god- fearing men, then they should resign from this murderous =
band of mad men and=20
women driving our dear nation to the abyss forthwith. If they have an =
iota of decency in them,=20
their resignation letters would be waiting for the world's biggest =
"twerp" when he gets out of his=20
slumber (and realizes that a dozen young people have just been =
murdered by his henchmen, and=20
that warrants him to leave Cuba for home) when he finally decides to =
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<DIV>Dave,</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks a bunch! No job in the world is worth it. That is precisely =
the=20
problem with us. "I'm just doing my job". What they fail to add is: =
"without my=20
conscience". That's probably because they don't have any, at all. I =
wonder how=20
they can get home and hug their own children whiles working for a system =
that is=20
overseeing the extermination of other peoples' children.</DIV>
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black"><A=20
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Manneh</A><FONT=20
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<DIV> </DIV>Mr Sidibeh, <BR> With all due =
respect some=20
jobs are just not worth the "dough". If someone willingly <BR>serves =
under a=20
corrupt and murderous government (as these guys are) then <BR>one has =
to be=20
prepared to be responsible for the actions of that government.=20
<P>I personally think there is one point you and possibly these guys =
are=20
deluding yourselves <BR>with, if Tombong or the good ambassador don't =
realize=20
that working with murderers, <BR>butchers and COWARDS ( I write =
cowards in=20
bold, for we can all remember when just a <BR>couple of MEN WITHOUT =
guns made=20
these "pillocks" vacate their barrack in Farafeni <BR>within 5 minutes =
with=20
their tails between their legs) contradicts human decency, then god =
help us.=20
<P>I promised not to be too emotional, but I just damn can't .If =
Tombong and=20
the good ambassador <BR>are good god- fearing men, then they should =
resign=20
from this murderous band of mad men and <BR>women driving our dear =
nation to=20
the abyss forthwith. If they have an iota of decency in them, =
<BR>their=20
resignation letters would be waiting for the world's biggest "twerp" =
when he=20
gets out of his <BR>slumber (and realizes that a dozen young people =
have just=20
been murdered by his henchmen, and <BR>that warrants him to leave Cuba =
for=20
home) when he finally decides to go back home!! =
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Essa,
The address works alright. Expect his mailbox to explode.
Hamjatta Kanteh
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<< It is always hard being in an African organisation without relative or
> closed friends.I am positive that Mr saidy is following orders to secure
> his job like anyone on the list would have done.Disobeying your boss means
> your dismisssal in our system, and non of us in the list will consider
> Tonbong if dismissed >>
Mr Sidibeh,
Only people without any sense of decency will be part of a government that
has wrecked the havoc on our people that this regime has. I say if Isatou
Njie Saidy had any sense of decency, courage and responsibility, she should
have walked off the job instead of delivering that cowardly order to murder
our children in the street like they were flies to be swatted off.All of the
officials of this regime will have to pay the price of what they are doing
one of these days very soon. I hope they realize that Gambians will not fail
to demand their trials in an international forum for the human rights
violations they are heaping on our people. Tombong Saidy is part amd parcel
of this murderous regime, so please spare us the appeals to understand his
plight. We understand his plight, he is sacrificing our people for his own
comfort as the rest of them are.
Jabou Joh
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Thanks Mr Kanteh,
I have just spoken to Mr Malick Kah on his mobile phone 07 93 90 16
206, as Mr Ceesay has advised Mr Drammeh to do. He said they are meeting tonight
in London
and he will contact me then.
You can contact him on the same number if you wish, but I shall inform you of the
meeting's outcome.
In the meantime if any of us students can please contact our respective SUs for
their support in the demonstration, for we can do with all the help.
I left a message for one Jules Mason, he is on the executive board of the NUS. He
was not in his office today, but am sure he shall contact me the moment he
listens to his phone messages. We were close during his presidency at my Uni's
Student Union.
In the meantime, lets try to contact as many Gambians as possible, there is an
awful lot of Gambians in this country, and we shall need each and everyone of
them.
All the best
Dave
Hamjatta Kanteh wrote:
> Dave Manneh,
> thanks for the info, suggestions and update. I have started talking to
> those folks in the Southeast area who are not online about the plans. Perhaps
> we should appoint co-ordinating committee which would liaise with scattered
> Gambian community in the UK. The rest of you out there what do you make of
> the situation. This is the time of solidarity with our folks back home. UK
> Gambia-Lers come out of your hibernation please!!!!!!!
> Hamjatta
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>THIS IS A FORMAL INVITATION TO FELLOW GAMBIANS AND SYMPATHIESERS ALL OVER
>THE WORLD.
GAMBIANS IN UK WILL HOLD THEIR PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION AT THE GAMBIA HIGH
COMMISSION ON MONDAY 17 APRIL 2000 AT 1100 HOURS.
THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE BLOODY MONDAY MASSCARE OF OUR BELOVED BROTHERS
AND SISTERS PLUS THE RED-CROSS VOLUNTEER WHILE PEACEFULLY MATCHING SHOWING
THE INJUSTICE DONE TO MR. BARRY BY THE IGNORANT FIRE OFFICERS.
PLEASE COME IN LARGE NUMBER. THIS IS BEYOND PARTY-POLITICS.
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Subject: vice-president,
Isatou Njie-Saidyblamed the national students' union for violence
Gambia L,
Please read this piece from BBC's web site it can't be the truth
Gambia blames students for unrest
The Gambian vice-president, Isatou Njie-Saidy, has blamed the national
students' union for violence earlier this week, during which fourteen people
died.
The deaths occurred during student protests on Monday against alleged police
mistreatment of a colleague.
Mrs Njie-Saidy said the shooting started from the demonstrators themselves,
adding that the security forces only had blank ammunition, tear gas and
batons.
Correspondents say she did not clarify whether security forces used real
bullets once the violence started.
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Gambia-L,
I received this update from the Gambia a shortwhile ago.
Ebrima Ceesay
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Ebrima,
Someone has just called my office to say we should be on the alert because
something is going to happen. I do not know what that means but what I do
know is that the Bakau Depot has been emptied of women and children. I hope
it is not another carnage among the forces themselves.
Meanwhile, a serious tension is brewing in the country, this time, between
the Paramilitary Forces and the Gambia National Army (GNA).
The GNA is pointing fingers at the para-military and the para-military
forces in turn is blaming the GNA for what happened. The police is left on
the side lines as usual.
They are all jockeying for position in readiness for Jammeh's arrival. Have
you read the Vice President's speech delivered last evening? Isn't it
disgusting? She has lost whatever respect and dignity she had left, if ever
there was anything there in the first place.
The dead bodies have also started to decompose, but there is an instruction
from President Jammeh that no one of them should be buried until he returns,
even if it means that the bodies are going to decompose or get rotten.
Anyway, I am going home to beat the traffic and the possible road blocks. I
do not trust my office any more.
Meanwhile, please continue to pray for us.
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Jabou,
You have said it all. Thanks a lot.
A.Drammeh.
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> In a message dated 4/13/00 12:19:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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>
> << It is always hard being in an African organisation without relative or
> > closed friends.I am positive that Mr saidy is following orders to
secure
> > his job like anyone on the list would have done.Disobeying your boss
means
> > your dismisssal in our system, and non of us in the list will consider
> > Tonbong if dismissed >>
> Mr Sidibeh,
>
> Only people without any sense of decency will be part of a government that
> has wrecked the havoc on our people that this regime has. I say if Isatou
> Njie Saidy had any sense of decency, courage and responsibility, she
should
> have walked off the job instead of delivering that cowardly order to
murder
> our children in the street like they were flies to be swatted off.All of
the
> officials of this regime will have to pay the price of what they are doing
> one of these days very soon. I hope they realize that Gambians will not
fail
> to demand their trials in an international forum for the human rights
> violations they are heaping on our people. Tombong Saidy is part amd
parcel
> of this murderous regime, so please spare us the appeals to understand his
> plight. We understand his plight, he is sacrificing our people for his own
> comfort as the rest of them are.
>
> Jabou Joh
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How insulting! Does this woman really think people are morones? This
MONKEY GOVERNMENT should know by now that the charade is OVER.
God help us!!!
Astrid/
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>
>Gambia L,
>Please read this piece from BBC's web site it can't be the truth
>Gambia blames students for unrest
>
>The Gambian vice-president, Isatou Njie-Saidy, has blamed the national
>students' union for violence earlier this week, during which fourteen
>people
>died.
>
>The deaths occurred during student protests on Monday against alleged
>police
>mistreatment of a colleague.
>
>Mrs Njie-Saidy said the shooting started from the demonstrators themselves,
>adding that the security forces only had blank ammunition, tear gas and
>batons.
>
>Correspondents say she did not clarify whether security forces used real
>bullets once the violence started.
>
>
>Mori
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On 13 Apr 00, at 11:35, Jabou Joh wrote:>
> PLEASE NOTE: I am sure i read on the L last week or so, that Tombong Saidy
> was on the board (or something like that) of Amnesty International in Gambia.
> Someone please confirm this. If this is true, we will have to include a
> petition to Amnesty protesting this in the strictest terms, and demanding his
> removal forthwith. If true, this would be akin to electing the wolf to guard
> the sheep.
Jabou,
Yes, some weeks ago I wrote that Tombong is a member of the executive of the
Amnesty International gambia Branch and he has never denied it.
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I hope our young men in the arm forces do not fall for it this time
around. Any more violence will not be in the interest of the Gambia.
Malanding
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> Gambia-L,
>
> I received this update from the Gambia a shortwhile ago.
>
> Ebrima Ceesay
>
> ****************************************************
>
> Ebrima,
>
> Someone has just called my office to say we should be on the alert because
> something is going to happen. I do not know what that means but what I do
> know is that the Bakau Depot has been emptied of women and children. I
hope
> it is not another carnage among the forces themselves.
>
> Meanwhile, a serious tension is brewing in the country, this time, between
> the Paramilitary Forces and the Gambia National Army (GNA).
> The GNA is pointing fingers at the para-military and the para-military
> forces in turn is blaming the GNA for what happened. The police is left on
> the side lines as usual.
>
> They are all jockeying for position in readiness for Jammeh's arrival.
Have
> you read the Vice President's speech delivered last evening? Isn't it
> disgusting? She has lost whatever respect and dignity she had left, if
ever
> there was anything there in the first place.
>
> The dead bodies have also started to decompose, but there is an
instruction
> from President Jammeh that no one of them should be buried until he
returns,
> even if it means that the bodies are going to decompose or get rotten.
>
> Anyway, I am going home to beat the traffic and the possible road blocks.
I
> do not trust my office any more.
>
> Meanwhile, please continue to pray for us.
>
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FROM MARY .A. SAMBA-CHRISTENSEN LEGAL PRACTITIONER
Contrary to the News on Gambianet 7 days Tuesday 11th April 2000 on Student
Riots:
I Mary Abdoulie Samba-Christensen wishes to inform all Subscribers that I
never granted an interview to anybody or any reporter. I totally dissociate
myself with the report.
I am very much disturbed by the Comments of Mr. Sambou, considering that
members of our institution and myself intervened and saved many Students at
Kairaba Avenue. I expect that apologies would be fortcoming.
Mary Abdoulie Samba-Christensen.
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Ousman:
Here it is...
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Brothers and Sisters:
This is a reminder that the first DEMONSTRATION IN WASHINGTON DC
is tomorrow
Friday, April 14th
Time: 10:00 am
Location: Embassy of The Gambia
1155 15th St, NW (15th St between K St and L ST)
Please continue spreading the word!
No Justice, No Peace!
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The URL for voiceout is
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Astrid, no disrespect to your sister in law, but I doubt very much that the Observer would quote her without talking to her. Until her organization issues a statement that emphatically condemned what happened, she should shut up and go back to her everyday business.
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Yus,
I'll be sure to give her your message.
thanks,
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>Astrid, no disrespect to your sister in law, but I doubt very much that the
>Observer would quote her without talking to her. Until her organization
>issues a statement that emphatically condemned what happened, she should
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MR JOW;
THE OBSERVER DOES NOT HAVE AN IMPECABLE TRACK RECORD!!!.I SUGGEST YOU TAKE
YOU OWN ADVISE, TO PUT IT MIDLY, COOL OFF, UNTIL THE REPORTER IN QUESTION
COMES UP WITH PROOF OR SOME EVIDENCE THAT INDEED MARY SAMBA-CHRISTENSEN MADE
THESE COMMENTS/REMARKS.SHE HAS DEFENDED HER HONOR BY PUBLICLY REFUTING THE
ALLEGATIONS - AND WILL NOT SHUT UP TO BUSINESS AS USUAL BECAUSE IT IS NOT!.
I TAKE IT YOU ARE SUGGESTING WE TAKE EVERYTHING THE OBSERVER SAYS AS GOSPEL
TRUTH.WELL WE ARE ALL IN FOR BIG TROUBLE IF WE DO.I NEED NOT SAY ANYMORE
RIGHT NOW.
DAGMAR CHRISTENSEN
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>Astrid, no disrespect to your sister in law, but I doubt very much that the
>Observer would quote her without talking to her. Until her organization
>issues a statement that emphatically condemned what happened, she should
>shut up and go back to her everyday business.
>
>Yus
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interview on April 11, with the Observer Tabloid. I'm glad those <BR>
were not your sentiments and I apologize for any grief my comments <BR>
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Mrs Samba-Christensen has issued a statement through her sister-in-law =
to the WHOLE WORLD that she did not make the comments that a Gambian =
"journalist" attributed to her. . Anybody who do not take her for her =
word is not looking for the TRUTH. Even Joe Sambou, who is also misled =
by Observer article has offered sincere apology to Mary =
Samba-Christensen.=20
THE WOMAN HAS SPOKEN, she does not need any organisation to speak for =
her.
Thank God, those "journalists" did not put the Vice President's words in =
Mary's mouth.=20
Prince Coker
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Subject: Re: Message from Mary Samba-Christensen (Update)
MR JOW;
THE OBSERVER DOES NOT HAVE AN IMPECABLE TRACK RECORD!!!.I SUGGEST YOU =
TAKE
YOU OWN ADVISE, TO PUT IT MIDLY, COOL OFF, UNTIL THE REPORTER IN =
QUESTION
COMES UP WITH PROOF OR SOME EVIDENCE THAT INDEED MARY =
SAMBA-CHRISTENSEN MADE
THESE COMMENTS/REMARKS.SHE HAS DEFENDED HER HONOR BY PUBLICLY REFUTING =
THE
ALLEGATIONS - AND WILL NOT SHUT UP TO BUSINESS AS USUAL BECAUSE IT IS =
NOT!.
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GOSPEL
TRUTH.WELL WE ARE ALL IN FOR BIG TROUBLE IF WE DO.I NEED NOT SAY =
ANYMORE
RIGHT NOW.
DAGMAR CHRISTENSEN
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>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:09:33 -0400
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>Astrid, no disrespect to your sister in law, but I doubt very much =
that the
>Observer would quote her without talking to her. Until her =
organization
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should
>shut up and go back to her everyday business.
>
>Yus
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This site by the way is under contruction by Quantum. All the times I've
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Soffie,
Do you mind providing your phone no? I plan to send my contribution by Fedex
and they won't deliver without a phone no.
thx.
sarian
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> Having heard from a lot of list members, it is save to say the proposal is
> agreed to. Please begin to send in your contributions as soon as you can
> because we need to get started right away. Make all checks or money orders
> payable to Soffie ceesay and please send it to :
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> I would volunteer to put daily summaries of what is received as the days
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> Please also inform Gambians you know in your area to help contribute. Each
> contributor can request and would be promptly sent any information pertaining
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> act on what we have agreed to on our behalf and again I would keep you all
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> and Latjor Ndow would keep list members of efforts that follow that meeting.
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I read all your postings before responding. However, your anger <BR>
should not be directed to me, for I was not the one who quoted you in <BR>
the Observer. How about trying this angle, why don't you demand an <BR>
apology from the Observer. I apologized to you not because you <BR>
requested one, but because I was on the opinion that you did not <BR>
grant the interview. Since you are on the offensive, I withdraw my <BR>
apology until the Observer Tabloid apologize to you. If that does <BR>
not occur, then my previous comment stands. As Yus stated, would the <BR>
Observer quote you if you did not utter those words? That's the <BR>
million dollar question. I hope that you settle your score with the <BR>
Observer before you get back to me.<BR>
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<< Jabou,
Yes, some weeks ago I wrote that Tombong is a member of the executive of the
Amnesty International gambia Branch and he has never denied it.
Momodou Camara >>
G-L,
For Tombong Saify to be a member of the executive of Amnesty International in
Gambia is an outrage and an insult, as well as a complete misrepresentation
of what this orgasnization stands for.As I said before, this is akin to
putting the sheep in the care of the wolf.
I call for a petition demanding his removal from that position be prepared
and signed by all and sent to the headquarters of Amnesty International, as
well as to any of their branches World-wide. I hereby respectfully request
immediate feedback on this proposal. Thank you.
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There is going to be a Gambian gathering tomorrow and I plan to =
print and take the petition with me for people to sign. I have also =
spoken to a few friends who have volunteered to help ask for donations =
at the gathering. I am going to prepare a form on which every volunteer =
writes his/her name and the amount they donated for accountability =
purposes. Sidibeh, if you are going to the gathering tomorrow maybe you =
can help. I'll bring the amount collected to the meeting on Sunday so we =
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Hi!
Momodou Camara wrote:
"I am adding a suggestion that a joint declaration on behalf of Gambia-l to
be drafted and sent to the press, human rights organizations and Government
of The Gambia. Any one on Gambia-l who does not want his/her
name/organization to be on that declaration should send an email to the list
managers and their names will not be written as signatories. All those who
do not request not to be on the declaration will automatically become listed
as signatories. At the moment we have more than 600 members on the list."
I think this is a great idea and we should do it that way. Thanks.
Buharry.
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Hi Momodou!
The draft's responsibility at the moment is with =
Yankuba Njie. Your suggestion is good. Yankuba, please take note.=20
I called you earlier Sidibeh but your number has changed. Please =
call me or send me your number. I want to take the petition to a Gambian =
gathering tomorrow and prepare a few fliers. If it is fine with you I =
can advertise your meeting in the flier. Thanks.
=
Buharry.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: MSSidibeh=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Petition Draft
Great Buharry!
But please kindly include the demand to immediately make known =
the identity of all those who died in this senseless carnage.
They should not just remain figures. Their names, age, sex, =
schools and what grades they were, all need to be immediately =
exposed.
Sidibeh.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 11:51 PM
Subject: Petition Draft
Hi!
I have worked on a draft of the petition to be sent to various =
organisations as requested by Abdoulie Saine. Please feel free to come =
up with suggestions and critique.=20
=
Buharry.
=
_________________________________________________________________________=
____________
=20
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Dear Sir/Madam,
A very tragic chapter in the history of our =
beloved nation, The Gambia, occurred on the 10th. And 11th. April 2000 =
when security forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least 28 =
people including a Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, =
during an unarmed demonstration organised by students. The students were =
protesting the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by =
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request you =
and your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia =
to immediately:
- instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;=20
- release all the students currently under detention;
- release the names of those killed and release their bodies =
to their relatives for proper burial;
- launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances surrounding it;
- ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with according to the provisions of the law;
- instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
during demonstrations slated for next week;
- ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima =
Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent =
of the law without undue delay;
- ensure that all security personnel abide by the =
Constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and all international laws =
and treaties of which The Gambia is a signatory;
=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter =
of matters, we take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
organization for your concern.
=
Sincerely,
=
Concerned Citizens of The Gambia.
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note.=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2> I called you earlier Sidibeh but =
your=20
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If it is=20
fine with you I can advertise your meeting in the flier.=20
Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
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Buharry.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
[log in to unmask]>MSSidibeh</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
=
[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 13, 2000 =
9:24=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Petition =
Draft</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Great Buharry!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But please kindly include the =
demand to=20
immediately make known the identity of =
all those=20
who died in this senseless carnage.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>They should not just =
remain =20
figures. Their names, age, sex, schools =
and what=20
grades they were, all need to be=20
immediately exposed.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sidibeh.</DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
[log in to unmask]>MOMODOU=20
BUHARRY GASSAMA</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
=
[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A>=
=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 12, =
2000 11:51=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Petition Draft</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> I have worked on a draft of =
the=20
petition to be sent to various organisations as requested by =
Abdoulie Saine.=20
Please feel free to come up with suggestions and critique. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> =
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=20
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Buharry.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT=20
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size=3D2>________________________________________________________________=
_____________________</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> =20
<P align=3Dcenter class=3DMsoTitle><U>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN</U></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify">Dear =
Sir/Madam,<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: 1"></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
1"> &nbs=
p;</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
1"> =20
</SPAN>A very tragic chapter in the history of our beloved nation, =
The=20
Gambia, occurred on the 10<SUP>th</SUP>. And 11<SUP>th</SUP>. April =
2000=20
when security forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least =
28=20
people including a Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, =
during=20
an unarmed demonstration organised by students. The students were =
protesting=20
the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire =
Service=20
personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, =
by a=20
police officer. Hundreds of students have since been arrested and =
distraught=20
parents do not know whether their children are among the dead or=20
imprisoned.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"> We the =
undersigned, as=20
concerned citizens, respectfully request you and your organization =
to keep=20
pressure on the Government of The Gambia to immediately:</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force=20
against civilians; </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>release all the students currently under detention;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>release the names of those killed and release their bodies to =
their=20
relatives for proper burial;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive force=20
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according =
to the=20
provisions of the law;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
during=20
demonstrations slated for next week;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry =
and the=20
rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law =
without=20
undue delay;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution =
of The=20
Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of =
which The=20
Gambia is a signatory;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: =
justify"> <?xml:namespace prefix=20
=3D o ns =3D "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =
/><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify">While awaiting =
your kind=20
co-operation in this most urgent of matter of matters, we take the=20
opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for your=20
concern.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2"> &nbs=
p; =20
</SPAN><SPAN=20
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style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2"> &nbs=
p; =20
</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
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</SPAN>Sincerely,</P><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; =
mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; =
mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2"> &nbs=
p; =20
</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2"> &nbs=
p; =20
</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2"> &nbs=
p; =20
</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
1"> =20
</SPAN>Concerned Citizens of The=20
Gambia.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Hi!
I just noticed that I made a mistake in the draft. I wrote:
"While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter of =
matters". It should read: ""While awaiting your kind co-operation in =
this most urgent of matters" . Please take note so that it can be =
corrected in the printouts and in the final petition. Thanks.
=
Buharry.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 11:51 PM
Subject: Petition Draft
Hi!
I have worked on a draft of the petition to be sent to various =
organisations as requested by Abdoulie Saine. Please feel free to come =
up with suggestions and critique.=20
=
Buharry.
=
_________________________________________________________________________=
____________
=20
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Dear Sir/Madam,
A very tragic chapter in the history of our =
beloved nation, The Gambia, occurred on the 10th. And 11th. April 2000 =
when security forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least 28 =
people including a Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, =
during an unarmed demonstration organised by students. The students were =
protesting the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by =
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request you =
and your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia =
to immediately:
- instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;=20
- release all the students currently under detention;
- release the names of those killed and release their bodies =
to their relatives for proper burial;
- launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances surrounding it;
- ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with according to the provisions of the law;
- instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
during demonstrations slated for next week;
- ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry =
and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the =
law without undue delay;
- ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution =
of The Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of =
which The Gambia is a signatory;
=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter of =
matters, we take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
organization for your concern.
=
Sincerely,
=
Concerned Citizens of The Gambia.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> I just noticed that I made a =
mistake in the=20
draft. I wrote:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>"While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most =
urgent of=20
matter of matters". It should read: "<FONT size=3D2>"While awaiting your =
kind=20
co-operation in this most urgent of matters" . Please take note so that =
it can=20
be corrected in the printouts and in the final petition.=20
Thanks.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> =
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=
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Buharry.</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
[log in to unmask]>MOMODOU BUHARRY=20
GASSAMA</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
=
[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 12, 2000 =
11:51=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Petition Draft</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> I have worked on a draft of the =
petition=20
to be sent to various organisations as requested by Abdoulie Saine. =
Please=20
feel free to come up with suggestions and critique. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> =
=20
=
=20
=
=20
=
=20
=
=20
=
=20
Buharry.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT=20
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_____________________</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> =20
<P align=3Dcenter class=3DMsoTitle><U>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN</U></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify">Dear =
Sir/Madam,<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: 1"></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
1"> &nbs=
p;</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
1"> =20
</SPAN>A very tragic chapter in the history of our beloved nation, The =
Gambia,=20
occurred on the 10<SUP>th</SUP>. And 11<SUP>th</SUP>. April 2000 when =
security=20
forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least 28 people =
including a=20
Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, during an unarmed=20
demonstration organised by students. The students were protesting the =
torture=20
and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, =
and the=20
rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a police officer. =
Hundreds=20
of students have since been arrested and distraught parents do not =
know=20
whether their children are among the dead or imprisoned.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"> We the =
undersigned, as=20
concerned citizens, respectfully request you and your organization to =
keep=20
pressure on the Government of The Gambia to immediately:</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of force =
against=20
civilians; </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>release all the students currently under detention;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>release the names of those killed and release their bodies to =
their=20
relatives for proper burial;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive =
force=20
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
the=20
provisions of the law;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
during=20
demonstrations slated for next week;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry =
and the=20
rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law =
without=20
undue delay;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; =
mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT: 7pt 'Times New =
Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution of =
The=20
Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of =
which The=20
Gambia is a signatory;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: =
justify"> <?xml:namespace prefix =3D=20
o ns =3D "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify">While awaiting your =
kind=20
co-operation in this most urgent of matter of matters, we take the =
opportunity=20
to sincerely thank you and your organization for your concern.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-tab-count: =
2"> &nbs=
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Point taken, Dagmar. I will cool off till the situation becomes clearer. But she should be taking up her case with the newspaper and not the Gambia-L. Hopefully, the Observer will be forced to publicly retract the supposed false quote of her ASAP.
On an additional note, I hope to God that she plays her part and condemns the human rights abuses that have gone on.
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Tombong's phone# is : 462020 Let's all CALL this " asslicker" until his
phone get disconnected. Forget privacy, this ia a public matter. Thanks
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who opened the can, I thought it appropriate to interject. Are you <BR>
saying that If I see Mary's name behind a quote on the Observer, then <BR>
I should presume in her favor that she did not utter those words? <BR>
Who owes Mary an apology, myself, the Observer, or both? If she <BR>
indeed is not the author of those words, I think she has solid <BR>
grounds to sue the paper or demand an apology from them. Until I see <BR>
an apology from the observer to her, I stand by my initial comments. <BR>
If you should see one before I do, kindly alert me to it and I'll do <BR>
the right thing, for I am not too proud to be corrected.<BR>
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Greetings:
I would like your input in formulating slogans for the washington dc
demonstration. This way, we will be working in unison, and that even though
some of you will not be here physically, you will be represented in spirit.
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Folks,
Although tensions are high and many people angry, I beg that we direct our
efforts to things that really matter. That is, the tragedy of April 10 and
11.
Mr Tombong Saidy may be the Director of GRTS but he is not proprietor/owner.
Also he was not in the Gambia at the time of the tragedy to directly
supervise/determine what was aired and what was not. As such personal
attacks on his conduct or political affliations before the incident would
only be counter-productive. He, like any Gambians must be give the right of
association. As long as he did not take part in the act or defense of it
attacking him would not help.
Malanding Jaiteh
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Joe,
If you are one of those who believe in whatever a Gambian Newspaper =
writes, then I am sorry to inform you that you are harbouring on nothing =
but on a paradox of facts and truths. A Newspaper said this woman said =
so-and-so, the very woman is telling you, Joe Sambou, and the rest of =
world that she did not say that to the Newspaper whose "taste appalled" =
you. I am really finding it hard to understand your attempts to get to =
the TRUTH.
Please note, in the same paragraph before you mentioned Mrs Christensen =
in your posting. this is what you wrote about the very newspaper you =
want to rectify your blunder.
"On the issue of the Observer, I was appalled by their appetite for poor =
taste and total disregard for truth and justice." (the emphasis is =
mine)
=20
These were your very words. Please look at this sentence now and tell =
the whole of Gambia-L that you believe more on what the Observer story =
than the statement of Mrs Samba-Christensen.
You owe Mrs Samba-Christensen an unreserved apology and stop trying to =
justify yourself, because you cannot. That home attitude of trying to =
stand firm when the chips are down will not hold here. And please do not =
attempt give yourself air that you are going to "Ras-to-ras" with a =
Gambian lawyer, because that will be more detrimental than the events of =
10th April.
Prince Coker=20
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----- Original Message -----=20
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Mary, this is a follow-up to my apology. I should have waited =
until=20
I read all your postings before responding. However, your anger=20
should not be directed to me, for I was not the one who quoted you =
in=20
the Observer. How about trying this angle, why don't you demand =
an=20
apology from the Observer. I apologized to you not because you=20
requested one, but because I was on the opinion that you did not=20
grant the interview. Since you are on the offensive, I withdraw =
my=20
apology until the Observer Tabloid apologize to you. If that does =
not occur, then my previous comment stands. As Yus stated, would =
the=20
Observer quote you if you did not utter those words? That's the=20
million dollar question. I hope that you settle your score with =
the=20
Observer before you get back to me.
Chi Jaama
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You owe Mrs Samba-Christensen an =
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attitude of=20
trying to stand firm when the chips are down will not hold here. And =
please do=20
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Gambian=20
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April.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Prince Coker</FONT> </DIV>
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This is a draft of the donation form I plan to use to ask for =
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We are seeking donations to help the victims of =
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11th. April 2000 in which 14 people were killed and more than 48 =
seriously injured. The shooting incident occurred when the security =
services opened fire on students demonstrating the torture and murder of =
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orchestrated through Gambia-L and co-ordinated in Europe by Alpha =
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11<SUP>th</SUP>.=20
April 2000 in which 14 people were killed and more than 48 seriously =
injured.=20
The shooting incident occurred when the security services opened fire on =
students demonstrating the torture and murder of a student, Ebrima =
Barry, by=20
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Manneh=20
by a police officer. Among the dead was a Red Cross volunteer and =
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in court if need be. This drive is an international one orchestrated =
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Ya=20
Soffie Ceesay. Please donate generously. Let us defend our students who =
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Gambia-L,
Our nation is in deep trouble,this time again the Gambian people are on t=
he
street to defy the believed that their political maturity should be
question.However they show sympathy with the students and the killing of =
their
children will without doubt deepen their political consciousness. It is
unfortunate that the minister is trying to lie to the nation that the
paramilitary were not armed with bullets.It is unfortunate that the Vice
president could at no moment point a finger on the security forces for th=
is
serious crime against a whole nation.She instead put the blame squarely o=
n the
students,is she not a wear of the fact that our nation is indeed pain,it =
what
type of society would such an act of irresponsibility mobilize sympathy ?=
not
in the Gambian society.It was no accident that when the public media was
available to the Gambian people they made it known to her and the rest th=
at
some one must explain.I was at the scene of the shooting that took place =
near
by the Paramilitary barracks.I was perhaps the first person who attended =
to
one of the victims,who was seriously bleeding in my hands.Before that the=
scene at the Kanifing Gamtel junction was much more of a disorganized dia=
log
between the military personals and the students.It was at that place a si=
ster
was waving his banner,on which she wrote "We will rather die than see
Injustice",a moment after a sister arrived at the junction asking all of =
us to
make a retreat because the paramilitary officials were shooting at the
students and some one die,in her hand was a blood stain school uniform of=
a
student whom she said was already dead.The news of the killing made the
situation more tense and stones were thrown at the soldiers,the running
soldiers were retreating towards the paramilitary barracks were told by t=
he
students to tell the paramilitary to stop the shooting and killing.As the=
soldiers retreat the students continue to advance,then when they got clos=
er
the paramilitary opened fire,the students were running and the paramilita=
ry
continue the shooting.Not in the air,but at the students who were running=
for
their lives.When they took a break from the shooting,two of us starting
shouting that some are been shot whiles running towards the victims.It wa=
s a
matter of seconds when the ambulance arrived from the direction of
Banjul,perhaps from delivering the victims from the first shooting.On my =
way
home people were shocked to hear that the blood stain on my clothes were =
from
a victim who was shot at the demonstration.The people were shock and if t=
he
minister believed that there were no witness to these events then he is
marking a serious mistake.I am a witness to the scene were Gambina studen=
ts
were shot at and killed for demanding that justice be done and all those =
who
are not speaking their voices against this most serious crime against hum=
anity
,history will settle an account with them.The blood of these innocent and=
diffenceless students will never sink in vain,they are those of our broth=
ers
and sister.Right now there are three unidentify victims not yet burried .=
Those
who have deied are heros of the nation,they are buried like heros .I salu=
te
them all.
I will be back with more of the story.
For Freedom
Saiks
I received this update from the Gambia a shortwhile ago.
Ebrima Ceesay
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Ebrima,
Someone has just called my office to say we should be on the alert becaus=
e
something is going to happen. I do not know what that means but what I do=
know is that the Bakau Depot has been emptied of women and children. I ho=
pe
it is not another carnage among the forces themselves.
Meanwhile, a serious tension is brewing in the country, this time, betwee=
n
the Paramilitary Forces and the Gambia National Army (GNA).
The GNA is pointing fingers at the para-military and the para-military
forces in turn is blaming the GNA for what happened. The police is left o=
n
the side lines as usual.
They are all jockeying for position in readiness for Jammeh's arrival. Ha=
ve
you read the Vice President's speech delivered last evening? Isn't it
disgusting? She has lost whatever respect and dignity she had left, if ev=
er
there was anything there in the first place.
The dead bodies have also started to decompose, but there is an instructi=
on
from President Jammeh that no one of them should be buried until he retur=
ns,
even if it means that the bodies are going to decompose or get rotten.
Anyway, I am going home to beat the traffic and the possible road blocks.=
I
do not trust my office any more.
Meanwhile, please continue to pray for us.
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Hi!
This is a draft of the brochure I plan to distribute before asking =
for donations. Comments/suggestions? Thanks.
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Buharry.
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Dear Sir/Madam,
You may be aware of the shooting =
disaster that took place in The Gambia on the 10th. And 11th. April 2000 =
in which 14 people were killed and more than 48 seriously injured. The =
shooting incident occurred when the security services opened fire on =
students demonstrating the torture and murder of a student, Ebrima =
Barry, by Fire Service personnel and the rape of a 13-year old school =
girl, Binta Manneh by a police officer. Among the dead was a Red Cross =
volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, who left behind a young wife and =
a 7-month old baby. An initiative concocted on Gambia-L, a Gambian =
issues mailing list, has as one of its aims a donation drive. The =
proceeds of this drive will be used to offer financial assistance to the =
families of all who died, to help with the treatment of those injured, =
to hire a lawyer to investigate the circumstances surrounding the =
shooting and defend the students in court if need be. Another aim of the =
initiative is to petition the United Nations, Amnesty International, the =
Red Cross and other human rights agencies to put pressure on the =
Government of the Gambia to immediately:
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- instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;=20
- release all the students currently under detention;
- release the names of those killed and release their bodies to =
their relatives for proper burial;
- launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances surrounding it;
- ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with according to the provisions of the law;
- instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
during demonstrations slated for next week;
- ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry =
and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the =
law without undue delay;
- ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution =
of The Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of =
which The Gambia is a signatory.
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Our volunteers will contact you later on for donations and request you =
to sign the petition. Thanks.
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for proper=20
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in=20
human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to the provisions =
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President Jammeh:
As you return home, you will be greeted by the blood, grief and sadness
of Gambians and all peace loving people around the world, because of
the massacre of some 18 people, including Omar Barrow, a journalist.
This slaughter of defenseless people was callous and reflects the
depravity of a military force bent on maintaing "law and order" in the
face of chaos, and unbridled military brutality Gambians are subjected
to daily.
When you came to power in 1994 you raised the expectations of ordinary
Gambians for a better life, promised democracy, accountability,
transparency, and human rights. In the course of six years, you, and
your security forces have killed, and maimed Gambians in your reckless
effort to hold on to power. In fact, by all indicators, Gambians are
worse of today than they were six years ago, despite what Isatou
Njie-Saidy, your vice-president, said to the nation. Clearly, this is
not the Isatou Njie I knew at Armitage High School and a colleague at
Brikama Junior Secondary school. Your rule has been an abomination, and
in the end, brought nothing but pain and grief to our people and nation.
You have lost all credibility and moral standing in the country and
international community, not that you enjoyed much of these, at any
rate.
* You must release the bodies to their families for proper burial.
* Release all those still held in custody.
* Train security officers in crowd/ demonstration management.
* Train officers to respect the fundamental rights of people.
* Allow for an independent investigation of the 10 April Massacre.
* Halt the harassment of students and citizens.
* Apologize to the nation and families of the slain.
* Financially compensate the families of the slain.
* Provide the wounded with free medical care at home or overseas
if medically determined.
* Also compensate the wounded, and finally,
* Let the truth be told about the Massacre.
Abdoulaye Saine
Oxford, OH USA
No justice, no peace!
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Buharry:
Good letter.
Abdoulaye
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Well said, koto Abdoulaye.
Regards,
Madiba.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Abdoulaye Saine wrote:
> President Jammeh:
>
> As you return home, you will be greeted by the blood, grief and sadness
> of Gambians and all peace loving people around the world, because of
> the massacre of some 18 people, including Omar Barrow, a journalist.
> This slaughter of defenseless people was callous and reflects the
> depravity of a military force bent on maintaing "law and order" in the
> face of chaos, and unbridled military brutality Gambians are subjected
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As a concerned citizen of The Republic of The Gambia, I would like to express
my heartfelt condolence to the family of the deceased innocent students and
also wish those innocent victims who are hospitalise in RVH for the actions
of those cruel so called leaders of The Gambia.
I can't still believe my ears when I called home in Kaur and my sister told
me that most of the students in Kaur are held by the police even thos who are
between the ages of 10 to 13 years old. I don't even know what on earth those
kids can do and they have been held since tuesday and are denied bail. Can
someone please let the observer or the point know about this so they can
write about so that the officials will get to know about this. This is really
outrageous and there is no law in the provinces the officers are their own
boss and they keep beating up the kids who are really innocent. Something
really needs to be done in our motherland, we are sick and tired of the
present government and we need to see them leave as soon as possible because
we need good leaders no murders who depend on cold blooded flesh for their
daily bread. Why can't they eat their own families.
OUT YOU GO JAMMEH REGIME AND YOUR HOSTILE SO CALL SOLDIERS BUT THEY ARE
MURDERS NOT SOLDIERS
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Joe,
Please understand the woman is not trying to clear her name for speaking =
to a paper, she is saying that she DID NOT SAY the things the paper =
reported. My point is, you initially condemned the credibility of the =
paper and now you are trying to make this very paper your bastion of =
defence. Come on, raka. When you are wrong, you are wrong and the best =
defence in your situation is to give-in to your mistakes and MOVE ON. =
Your statement "I stand by my original comments" is a clear indication =
that you want to "ras-to-ras" this issue. Well, if that is what you =
want, I have no time for that. You can do it on your own. I hope Astrid, =
Dagma and Mrs Samba-Christensen will leave you to enjoy yourself.
Cheers
Prince =20
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Prince, the burden of proof on Mary, not me. She was quoted by =
the=20
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wants to tell the truth, why don't she demand an apology from the=20
Observer. Until she does that, I stand by my original comments. =
I=20
think you are partial in your comment, for the quote is clear and=20
precise. Do you really believe that Mary never spoke to the=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please understand the woman is not =
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indication=20
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On 13 Apr 00 at 5:26, sidi sanneh wrote:
> Dear Mr. Forster,
> In case you haven't heard, at least 12 school children
> have lost their lives in The Gambia and as a result
> the entire country and friends of The Gambia around
> the world are in mourning. I consider your posting to
> be ill-timed and in poor taste to say the least. I am
> not being rude, just brutally frank.
> Sidi Sanneh
>
Well you are entitled to your opinion Mr. Sanneh and I respect that.
But Ebrima's paper was discussed before the events in Banjul and I
was just sending him some comments that could be useful to him in the
future. I take it by your posting that I should have kept
it until the problems in Banjul have been resolved or better still
send it by private mail. Ebrimas postiong was sent to all and I
make no apologies for sending it at this time. If it is in bad
taste for you then you should put it where you feel it belongs.
Have a nice day.
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Excuse me, Jano but I couldn't help but wonder who you are. Whom are you
working with exactly? Amnesty International does have its own funds I
believe. Is there anybody else on the list who is aware of or is associated
with this particular action?
Just being vigilant, no offence intended.
Regards.
Kabir.
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Subject: Gambian Delegation with Amnesty International
> Everyone at L,
> We are currently working with Amnesty
> International in sending a fact finding delegation to
> the Gambia.This delegation would include two Gambians
> whose responsibilities will include contact with
> victims families and the hand over of any donations
> from us.
> We want to move as quickly as we possibly
> can,so your urgent action is highly welcome,before all
> vital evidence is buried by coverups and
> denials,evidence of which we are getting as reported
> by eye witnesses.
> Please send all donations however small to these
> locations.
> Wire transfers only:EASTERN FINANCIAL FEDERAL CREDIT
> UNION.A/C #9296492200.
> All mail donations to.
> Gammbian Victims Families
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> Marietta,Ga,30067
> USA
> We are appealing to all people around the
> globe,especiall our African American brothers and our
> brothers in the Careabian on this tragic situation.
> May our children's souls rest in peace.
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On 13 Apr 00 at 9:30, ebrima ceesay wrote:
> Thomas Forster,
>
> In my view, this is not the appropriate time to debate your Uganda friend on
> whether or not Uganda is a one-party State. This is a mourning period, and I
> can tell you that all Gambians whose conscience is clear, are mourning the
> killings - by the Jammeh thugs - of these innocent students.
>
> When the dust is settled, I'll then shatter your friend's nonsense into
> pieces. Meanwhile, let us not divert the issue which is the butchering of
> innocent Gambian students by Jammeh's animals calling themselves a
> Paramilitary Force.
>
> Ebrima Ceesay
> Birmingham, UK.
>
*****************
Ebrima,
I never posted it for discussion. I posted it for your information.
I do understand the present circumstances, and I do share the grief
being felt by all Gambians all over.
If yourself and Seedy could go back to my earlier posting and note
what I wrote, I hope that it would clear your thoughts up. I merely
said that I was forwarding a reply to Ebrima's posting from a
Ugandan. I never in the posting said that I was initiating a
discussion. I hope I have made myself clear.
Tom
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I wish to extend my deepest condolence to the family of the late Omar
Barrow.Omar has been a nice guy during our days at the Citizen Fm radio
station.We worked together at the radio for over a year and we had a very
good working relationship.He always keep his smile even during difficult
times and i respect him for that.Let's all pray for Omar and the rest of the
students who lost their lives during this demonstration and hope that the
paramilitary will next time think twice before firing at innocent
gambians.May Allah guide the Gambia our beloved country!
Fatou Harona Drammeh
Detriot,Michigan.
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>On 13 Apr 00 at 5:26, sidi sanneh wrote:
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> > Dear Mr. Forster,
> > In case you haven't heard, at least 12 school children
> > have lost their lives in The Gambia and as a result
> > the entire country and friends of The Gambia around
> > the world are in mourning. I consider your posting to
> > be ill-timed and in poor taste to say the least. I am
> > not being rude, just brutally frank.
> > Sidi Sanneh
> >
>
>Well you are entitled to your opinion Mr. Sanneh and I respect that.
> But Ebrima's paper was discussed before the events in Banjul and I
>was just sending him some comments that could be useful to him in the
>future. I take it by your posting that I should have kept
>it until the problems in Banjul have been resolved or better still
>send it by private mail. Ebrimas postiong was sent to all and I
>make no apologies for sending it at this time. If it is in bad
>taste for you then you should put it where you feel it belongs.
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Hi All,
I love the fighting spirit in the house.
Some of us here have been consulting with each other on what to do and how
to do it. There are still some details to be worked out, hopefully by
tomorrow or Saturday at the latest. All those consulted so far have declared
their willingness to sign the petition (we have printed Buharry's draft
after adding some pages with two columns and several rows for signatures).
Others have volunteered to carry copies with them and solicit signatures.
We intend to deliver copies to:
*The Norwegian Foreign Ministry
*The Norwegian Red Cross (highlighting how Omar Barrow was slain whiles
carrying out First Aid)
*Amnesty International's Norwegian chapter
*LO (the Labour Union)
*All the major press houses in Oslo
We also intend to seek an audience with the committee on foreign relation in
the Norwegian Parliament after which we shall keep them informed about
developments as they unfold.
We have agreed in principle to co-ordinate our actions with planned actions
in Denmark. What is not clear yet is whether the Gambian Association will
agree to condemn these criminal acts as an organisation or if the committee
would prefer members to append their signatures as private individuals.
Apart from those carrying the petition to collect signatures (see below),
copies will also be available later today at the Mosque for signature before
and after Friday prayers. For those who cannot make it there to sign later
today, a copy will be pinned on the information board there which we will
collect later.
We are also yet to agree on whether the delivery of the petitions will take
place with a mass gathering and march to the various offices (with possible
media coverage).
Meanwhile, you can also contact either E. K., Omar Drammeh, Amie Joof, Saiks
Samateh Famara Bojang (Fams) or my self to sign the petition. I guess most
Gambians in Oslo have the telephone number of at least one of the above.
Will keep you posted.
Regards.
Kabir.
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> Momodou Camara wrote:
>
> "I am adding a suggestion that a joint declaration on behalf of Gambia-l
to
> be drafted and sent to the press, human rights organizations and
Government
> of The Gambia. Any one on Gambia-l who does not want his/her
> name/organization to be on that declaration should send an email to the
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> do not request not to be on the declaration will automatically become
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Joe,
You have all rights to comment. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and
here's mine:
Yes I do believe Mary never spoke to a reporter..Why? Because she said so
and issued a public statement to attest to that. If she in fact was to
speak to a reporter, don't you think that she would indeed know she was
speaking to a reporter and that the story will be reported? Why would she
come back and retract her statement?
Knowing Mary as a woman of principles,dignity,integrity and conscience (not
because she's my sister in law), and being a lawyer at that, don't you think
she's smarter than that? If she had said those words I know she would STAND
by it.
I think we have more important issues at hand than "He Said" She Said".
Astrid/
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Jaajef wa G-L,
People wishing to communicate up-to-date information on the current tragic
events to Senegalese activists all over the world can do so at the
discussion list "Forum des immigres" :
http://www.ajpads.org/forum_two.htm
or at the "wecce xalat forum"
http://www.ajpads.org/forum_one.htm
this is a sort of Senegalese version of G-L, although run by And Jef party
led by Landing Savane (now a minister in the new Senegalese Government).
The forum has posting in both French and English.
I think that in the current situation it is important to open dialoge with
progressive people in Senegal. Havn't got the addresses of Students Unions
in Senegal but feel sure they would be a source of solidarity.
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Gambia-l:
I am offering a website for the purposes mentioned in Alpha Robinson's Action Plan Summary. The site is paid for (for the next two years, at least), but I have not done anything with it. The domain name is currently www.41africa.com, but this could be changed to something like 10April2000.com for instance. The site could be used for the dissemination of an array of information crucial to our national well-being. These would include party press releases, reports on human rights, statements from civic organizations, etc. In other words, things we don't get from GRTS.
If there is interest, I can provide additional information (password, etc.) to one of the excellent web designers amongst us to do the rest. What do you think?
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Dr . Janneh,
This idea is something we must act on because me must not let these heroic
students massacre be forgotten. We cannot be in denial because this rather
unfortunate event shall remain part of Gambia's history. Something we all
should never forget. However, am not sure the domain names: 41africa.com
and 10April2000.com are the kinds I would use given the benefit of the
doubt. 41africa.com is great but not feasible at this present time. It
becomes a bigger issue and we have a lot of work to for Gambia alone. Once
Gambia problems are resolved, optimistically, then we may focus on helping
the rest of Africa. 10April2000 may sound like a birthday or anniversary.
So I suggest something like: GAMSU.com or better yet YahyaMustGo.com,
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Subject: Website: 10April2000.com?
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Date: Apr 13, 2000
Gambia-l:
I am offering a website for the purposes mentioned in Alpha Robinson's Action Plan Summary. The site is paid for (for the next two years, at least), but I have not done anything with it. The domain name is currently www.41africa.com, but this could be changed to something like 10April2000.com for instance. The site could be used for the dissemination of an array of information crucial to our national well-being. These would include party press releases, reports on human rights, statements from civic organizations, etc. In other words, things we don't get from GRTS.
If there is interest, I can provide additional information (password, etc.) to one of the excellent web designers amongst us to do the rest. What do you think?
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Dr Janneh,
I think this is a wonderful idea and opportunity.
Jabou Joh
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With a limping gait she walked, leaning heavily on a
walking stick. Her once serene face now wreathed in
pain, she was dressed all in black but for the red
head-tie. Dragging her bare feet, she slowly moved
towards me. Her eyes, when she finally looked at me
were devoid of all warmth. With a raspy voice she
spoke, slowly and carefully as if she has all the time
in the world. “I have come to thank you, she said
“For the support you’ve given me during my moment of
pain, our pain.” Sluggishly I shook my head
signifying that it was the least I could have done,
and uncomfortably shifted my gaze from her searching
ones.
Suddenly she grabbed my hands and her next question
shocked me. “Look at me, really look at me and tell
me what you see?” Startled, I instinctively moved
backwards stumbling on a rock, losing my balance and
landing heavily on my behind. “Look at these hands,
these callused hands of mine,” She went on, undaunted
by my fall. “For years I have cultivated the soil for
the purpose of raising my son, all I wanted was his
education, but look at what happened to him!” Slowly
she put her cane down and gently started clapping her
hands to the rhythm of her words. “ I have a pain, a
pain so intense it immobilizes me, at night I lay
awake with thoughts and memories that wrench at my
heart and promise never to go away. My eyes are dry
with ‘unwept’ tears, vainly I searched the horizon for
my lost son but to no avail.” For a moment she was
silent as if rehearsing her next line, a single tear
slowly rolled down her left eye and landed on my dusty
feet. “Tell me, who is going to tend to me in my old
age and bury me when I die, now that I have lost my
son, my only child, ahhh the pain it suffocates me!”
As if trying to get rid of the discomfort she beats on
her chest and unflinchingly looked at me. “I
represent all mothers who lost a child or a loved one
to this nightmarish regime, this regime that brought
nothing but pain and injustice to all. Alas, these
poor arms of mine will never again embrace him.
Forever he has been taken away from me, he was but
fifteen years old, a baby, my baby. His young
promising life cut short by a bullet, ahhh, ahhh!”
Touching her red head-tie, she whispers in a tired
voice “This is for my son and all sons and daughters
of the Gambia, who has been lost in this tragedy, it
represent tears, tears that I cannot shed, tears of
blood that I must learn to live with to the end of my
days.” With these final words she turned and
pathetically walked back to her hut, disappearing in
the shades of the mango trees. In the distance
the melodious voice of the Muezzin can be heard
calling the faithful to prayers.
Dazedly I got up, dusted my pants and with a heavy
heart I headed back to the village ‘Bantaba’, thinking
out loud. “What are we going to do about this problem
that plagues our beloved motherland, the Gambia?”
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One more thing I wanted to add in my previous posting is that what's
important here is not the website or the domain name for that matter, it's
message, the content and more so our commitment to seek justice. The truth
shall set us all free. These GAMSU soldiers are heroes ,and heroes are
ordinary people, doing extraordinary things, in extraordinary times.
Wa Salam
Mr Makaveli
Dr . Janneh,
This idea is something we must act on because me must not let these heroic
students massacre be forgotten. We cannot be in denial because this rather
unfortunate event shall remain part of Gambia's history. Something we all
should never forget. However, am not sure the domain names: 41africa.com
and 10April2000.com are the kinds I would use given the benefit of the
doubt. 41africa.com is great but not feasible at this present time. It
becomes a bigger issue and we have a lot of work to for Gambia alone. Once
Gambia problems are resolved, optimistically, then we may focus on helping
the rest of Africa. 10April2000 may sound like a birthday or anniversary.
So I suggest something like: GAMSU.com or better yet YahyaMustGo.com,
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I hereby extend my apologies to Mary Samba and her family for my rude comments. Like many other Gambians, I got caught up in the heat of the moment. But the Daily Observer has indeed retracted the statement that was attributed to her, leaving me with no alternative but to do the right thing and apologize.
It is also clear now that the magazine with the widest circulation in the country is far from unbiased. The Daily Observer is part of this brutal regime's propaganda machine.
But, for now, I am forced to swallow my own humble pie.
Regards,
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Dr. Janneh,
I think it would be a very good idea. The suggestion George gave are very
good. Jammehmustgo.com will be more ideal and it could be well advertised.
I hope we all work together and kick this guy out.
Ousman Bojang.
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Please put on the petition list
Mohammed
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Please put me on the petition list.
Sorry for the error in my previous email
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Good questions Kabir. I would advice that we send our donations to Soffie and
karamba because all kinds of people can be out for their own purpose in this
tragedy.
Jabou
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working with exactly? Amnesty International does have its own funds I
believe. Is there anybody else on the list who is aware of or is associated
with this particular action?
Just being vigilant, no offence intended.
Regards.
Kabir.
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> Everyone at L,
> We are currently working with Amnesty
> International in sending a fact finding delegation to
> the Gambia.This delegation would include two Gambians
> whose responsibilities will include contact with
> victims families and the hand over of any donations
> from us.
> We want to move as quickly as we possibly
> can,so your urgent action is highly welcome,before all
> vital evidence is buried by coverups and
> denials,evidence of which we are getting as reported
> by eye witnesses.
> Please send all donations however small to these
> locations.
> Wire transfers only:EASTERN FINANCIAL FEDERAL CREDIT
> UNION.A/C #9296492200.
> All mail donations to.
> Gammbian Victims Families
> P.O.BOX 863
> 1480 Terell Mill Road
> Marietta,Ga,30067
> USA
> We are appealing to all people around the
> globe,especiall our African American brothers and our
> brothers in the Careabian on this tragic situation.
> May our children's souls rest in peace.
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Hi folks,
First, I would like to apologize for my long period of silence in the
aftermath of the senseless killing of 14 people, and the wounding of tens of
others, by our very own Gambian security forces. The events of this past
April 10 and 11 are a shame that will haunt us forever. I join the many
people on and off this list, and the world over in condemning these
killings, and expressing my condolences to the bereaved families.
As we've all seen over the past couple of days, there has been an outpouring
of rage never before seen in The Gambia. It is indeed the least many can
do, at least for now, while we gather our strengths again, and prepare for
the battles ahead. I'd like to contribute one or two ideas to already
bulging collection of brilliant efforts underway. But before that, I'd like
to take the opportunity to touch on a few house-keeping issues, as regards
the list.
Earlier in the week, Ambassador Sey in France sent in his perspective on the
killings, and we all are aware of the wrath that brought him. In response,
he requested that I take him off the list, not knowing that I do not spend
my whole day in front of my computer waiting for just such requests.
Unfortunately for him, it was much later that day that I saw his appeals.
Needless to say, I did not make any efforts to unsubscribe Ambassador Sey.
This was for no reason other than the fact that every posting sent out on
Gambia-L includes instructions on how to unsubscribe from the list and view
archives of postings. I saw no reason why Ambassador Sey should have failed
to see those instructions, and had problems following them, if he did see
them.
The second house-keeping issue I'd like to touch on is the request received
from Tombong Saidy regarding insults hurled at him by Madiba Saidy. I will
have to agree with Mr. Saidy on this one. This will then be the second time
(the first was in 1996) that I'm standing up for Mr. Saidy when insulted on
the list. But the issue is not Tombong Saidy, who I've never met in my
life. Rather, it's the principle that EVERYONE on the list deserves to be
treated with dignity, even if the person in question has been shown or known
to be probably undeserving of the dignity. I will say this, and it might
sound counter-intuitive, or even crazy, but folks, if there ever was a good
time to treat President Jammeh and his officials with respect, this is it.
I'll explain shortly, but please assume for a moment that the above
assertion is true. In that case, it would follow that what is expected of
all of us is that we exercise restraint in the words we hurl at President
Jammeh and his officials. While it is entirely up to each of us to decide
what words to trade in private, I would advice that we be as forceful as is
possible, without being insulting or vulgar, in our public dialogs with the
Jammeh government. Besides, I'm of the opinion that if you have to insult
people to make your point, you really have nothing to say.
House-keeping chores aside, I'd now like to contribute a few suggestions to
those that have been sent in about how to react to the killings earlier this
week. At the end of the day, I propose that all efforts should be aimed at
3-word objective: Jammeh Must Go! Folks, these killings are ample evidence
that we are at cross-roads in our nation's history. Either we make a
whole-hearted effort to make sure that President Jammeh's rules ends sooner,
rather than later, or we prepare to deal with what might be even worse
things to come.
Toward this end, and along the lines of suggestions coming in, I would like
to add to the proposed action plan. In essence, my proposals are based on a
CARROT or STICK approach to get rid of the Jammeh government. Here's how:
1. THE CARROT:
It's been a while that I've been thinking about reaching a compromise with
President Jammeh and his government for them to hand-over power, in exchange
for a number of concessions. Briefly, the deal would be along these lines:
i) President Jammeh and his cabinet agrees to resign, and hand-over
power to a National Unity government, comprised of different political
parties, and interest groups
ii) The head of the National Unity Government will agree to step-down
after the Presidential elections next year; and by implication, will not
contest the elections him or herself
iii) In exchange for handing over power, President Jammeh and his
Cabinet will be accorded the following:
a). Immunity from prosecution for any and all crimes committed
while in office
b). A life-time pension, based on their current salaries
iv) The above immunities and pension-plans shall be contingent on:
a). An agreement by President Jammeh, his Cabinet, and past
associates to participate in a truth-and-reconciliation commission to
investigate crimes they allegedly committed
b). An agreement by President Jammeh and his Cabinet to refrain
from committing any further crimes AFTER the ratification of the amnesty
agreement
c). An agreement by President Jammeh and his Cabinet to return
any state monies deemed to have been illegally acquired while in office
d). It's legislation into effect by an Act of the Gambian
Parliament
v) Families of all victims of violent incidents during President Jammeh'
s reign will be given benefits based on the salaries the victims were
drawing, or will have earned had they lived.
The above is a broad outline of a compromise between having to get President
Jammeh out of office as soon as possible, and making sure that it's done in
a manner that will ensure stability and peace. The devil, as the saying
goes, could be in the details, but it should be quite possible to accomplish
this compromise if there's a will to do so. And if for some reason or the
other the compromise route does not work, we'll resort to the stick.
2. THE STICK:
It just might be possible that President Jammeh and/or his Cabinet would not
agree to a compromise by handing over power before their his present term is
up. In that case, we'll use the stick, which in fact will consist of the
following action plan: PLAN, ORGANIZE, and ACT.
i) PLAN
The first step in dealing with President Jammeh if he refuse to a compromise
plan would be to plan on what to do. In many respects, present efforts on
the list will be immensely helpful in this regard. Along those lines, I
would like to suggest the following as contingency plans for action toward
getting Jammeh out of office before his term is up, in the event he refuses
to compromise.
First, the overall premise of the plans would be that the fight is between
President Jammeh's might and bullets, and our rights and pens (or
keyboards). It is a new game-plan in which we set the rules, and not
President Jammeh. In other words, it will be fought on the basis of rules
that he has either no knowledge of, or has chosen to totally ignore. I'm
talking here about decency, respect for human rights, and the rule of law.
And herein is the reason why, earlier, I said that now is the time to show
maximum respect to the Jammeh government. The fact is that the only way we
can build a credible case is when we have shown a level of maturity that the
position we are taking deserves. Thus, we should be careful not to set-back
our cause stoop down to their level and start trading insults with them, or
worse, start insulting them.
Plans for bringing about a speedy end to President Jammeh's rule should
include the following:
a). A global campaign to educate the world about the atrocities and
incompetence of the Jammeh government
b). A global campaign to deny the Jammeh government support from
governments and organizations they currently associate with
c). A campaign to educate Gambians (in The Gambia and abroad; educated
or illiterate in English) about their rights, expectations, and what they
can do about to bring down the Jammeh government by peaceful means
d). Support for the Gambian independent media groups to ensure the
adequacy of their facilities, and a political and legal environment for them
to do their work.
e). Setting up an umbrella organization with autonomous regional and
local branches around the world, and aimed at building and fostering
democracy and freedom in The Gambia.
f). Collaborating with other African and international organizations and
associations to work toward common objectives.
ii) ORGANIZE
The main vehicle toward the above plans will be an umbrella organization
that will be global in form, but with autonomous local and regional
branches. There already exist a number of Gambian organizations around the
world and aimed at different objectives. Furthermore, Dr. Abdoulie Saine
has recently proposed the formation of COFFET (The Coalition for Free and
Fair Elections in The Gambia), to work toward free and fair elections in The
Gambia in 2001. Also, efforts are well underway to coordinate the response
to the killings, and provide help to the needy families. In short, there's
no shortage of effort in trying to mobilize and organize people.
What we now need, I believe, is a formal umbrella organization that will be
purposely created to work toward not only the speedy end of the Jammeh
government, but also to help maintain an atmosphere of democracy, human
rights, and respect for the rule of law in The Gambia. As I indicated
before, the organization will be global, because it will have branches in
all parts of the world with Gambians interested in working toward the
organizations objectives.
The local and regional branches of the organization will be autonomous, in
the sense that they will run their own finances, and be responsible to
coordinating main organizations local activities, and/or initiating their
own programs as long as they are consistent with those of the main
organization. The benefit of having autonomous local branches include
flexibility in running the organizations program, and at the same time
making it easy to build the organizations brand, and name-recognition.
Having an umbrella organization will also be immensely helpful in getting
funds and grant from organizations and associations that fund activities
that the planned organization will engage in. There are a number of groups
and Foundations out there that might be easier to solicit funds from if we
have a formal organization. Furthermore, giving this organization a legal,
non-profit status in many countries will open even more opportunities for
raising funds needed to carry on it's work.
I would further suggest that such an organization have an annual membership
fee that is set in the local currency of the affiliate organizations. In
addition, we can decide a proportion of each local affiliates membership
dues or funds be set-aside for the overall organization toward it's upkeep,
and the implementation of it's programs.
From an organizational perspective, and given the potential logistical
problems of running an organization across time zones, and continents, I
would further suggest that in drafting the charters of both the umbrella
organization, and local affiliates, provision be made for the use of the
Internet communication tools (e-mail, chat, bulletin boards, etc) to
expedite the decision-making process, and enhance the governance of the
organization.
For now, that's about it with regards the organizational framework for a
plan of action to bring about an early end to President Jammeh's government.
And now, suggestions on actions that we can take to bring about our
objectives
iii) ACT
There already have been many suggestions about what can and should be done
to respond to the killings perpetrated by the Gambian security forces.
Alpha Robinson and Co. have done an excellent job of summarizing the
suggestions, and I would not belabor the issue any further. Suffice it is
for me to add a few more items, and perhaps elaborate on those that could
use some more detail.
First, the idea of a Web site is great, and Dr. Amadou Janneh's donation of
a site most welcome. In particular, I was also thinking along the lines of
getting pictures of the victims and putting them on the Web site. May I
also add that the main purpose of the Web site should be to serve as the
official depository of, and destination for information regarding the case
against the Jammeh government. Thus, the Web site should be organized along
the following subject matters:
a). A history of the Jammeh administration
b). Economic facts and figures about the Gambian economy under Jammeh
c). Human Rights and Political Freedom (or lack thereof) under Jammeh
d). Jammeh's Foreign policy
e). Outstanding and/or Pending allegations against the Jammeh
government
I would like to emphasize that the Web site should make maximum use of facts
and figures provided by none other than Jammeh himself, and his officials.
In other words, the best case we can build will be one based on facts and
figures found in the publications and utterances of the Jammeh government.
In this regard, I would read them my version of their Miranda rights: they
have a right to remain silent (or do nothing), because anything they say (or
do) can, and will be used against them.
It is particularly important that we present a historical perspective of the
Jammeh administration's record. This will be especially helpful to build a
case that not only has his government been inept and incompetent, but that
it has been consistently so. Furthermore, the recent killing that so
outrage so many of us, do have precedents, which might or might not have
been related to a persistent tendency of the Jammeh administration toward
the illegal and brutal use of force against it's enemies, real and imagined.
Alpha Robinson has also mentioned the power of putting pictures on the Web
site. As the saying goes, "a picture is worth a thousand words." For this
reason, I suggest we post pictures of ALL those who have died under violent
and/or suspicious circumstances during Jammeh's rule. In addition, we
should include brief biographies of these victims to further drive home the
point that like you and me, they too, had their dreams. And we, as a
nation, failed them miserably.
The Web site should also be an integral part of a global effort to educate
people the world over about the Jammeh administration's record. Toward this
end, the propose umbrella organization will embark on a campaign aimed
making sure that whenever and where ever President Jammeh travels, we would
have sent out advance e-mail messages to government officials,
organizations, and news organizations to pointing them to our Web site, and
alerting them to the kind of person they will be receiving. These e-mail
messages will be followed-up, where possible, by phone calls, and personal
visits by members of our organization in the event we have them on the
ground.
Still on the Web site, I suggest we start trying to put a team together to
build it. Toward this end, I suggest that people volunteer for the
following:
a). A Producer - responsible for the overall content and production of
the site
b). Graphics designers - to design the Umbrella organization's logo, and
Web site templates
c). Webmaster - overall administration and programming (CGI scripts,
HTML, etc.) of the site
d). Editors - Responsible for developing and writing content in
specialist areas (e.g. human rights, economic data and reports, etc.)
e). Researchers -- To work with Editors to research and develop
content; also to ensure that data is valid, current, and relevant.
f). Others - to take on duties as assigned
Besides the Web site, our action plan should include activities geared
toward keeping the heat on the Jammeh administration. Toward this end,
efforts should be made to contact various governments, development agencies,
and other organizations that Jammeh's officials have dealings with. Thus,
efforts should be made to ensure that:
a). as many governments as possible deny Jammeh and his Cabinet members
permits to visit
b). as many organizations as possible stop dealing with the Jammeh
administration, and by refuse them invitations to international meetings
c). no more financial assistance forthcoming to The Gambia unless and
until outstanding allegations of the misappropriation of public funds (e.g.
money from Taiwan, the Nigerian oil deal) are resolved
Our efforts must also be aimed at effecting a campaign of political
education for Gambians. While the Internet might be a wonderful tool for
communicating with those who have access to it, it still does us no good if
we want to reach someone in Sare Gubu Muntaga. In that case, we have to try
some alternate means. Thus, I suggest that we plan on making sure that as
many Gambians as possible have access to information other than what they
hear from official Gambian media. In this regard, I suggest we take a leaf
from the late Ayatollah Khomenei's book. We should seriously consider the
use of cassette tapes to get the word out, if need be. What I have in mind
is a regular publication, in cassette form, of developments of concern to
Gambians. The tapes might include discussions on topical issues, interviews
with political leaders denied access to the media, and educational material
for special interest groups (e.g. women, business people), or different
ethnic groups.
Furthermore, we can also look into the possibility of renting a shortwave
transmitter to broadcast regularly to The Gambia. Remember that Radio Free
Europe was created for a similar purpose, and I think if we setup a proper
non-profit organization dedicated toward the development of democracy in the
Gambia, and indeed West Africa in general, we just might be able to come up
with a grant to have at least weekly broadcasts. For example, World Harvest
Radio (http://www.whr.org) has a transmitter (WHRA - Angel 5) in Maine that
is targeted to Africa and the Middle East (see http://www.whr.org/tech.htm)
You can find their transmitter rental information at
(http://www.whr.org/advert.htm). I'm not saying the WHRI will agree to rent
us their transmitters, but I just wanted to give you an idea about what's
possible, and might well be achievable, if we work toward it.
Another important activity we must NOT neglect is support for Gambian media.
We've all heard of the heroics of George Christensen of Radio 1 FM, and we'
re all grateful to him for his interventions during last Monday's incidents.
Mr. Christensen's experiences, coupled with the killing of Mr. Omar Barrow,
the journalist, and Red Cross/Red Crescent volunteer are ample demonstration
of the risks and hazards they face on a daily basis. For this reason, I
suggest we start thinking about ways and means of helping them out. For
example, I have seen a number of postings from some of them about not being
able to send in their responses or postings because of this or that computer
problem. We should try to work toward helping them with their computer
problems by either helping them get new ones, or functional refurbished
ones. Furthermore, I've been thinking about helping them setup their own
Web sites, but I will have to work on this not only with them, but also with
Quantum who presently provides them some space.
And finally, I would like to say that we should also plan to coordinate and
collaborate with other African and international groups toward common
objectives. If I'm not mistaken, I believe a number of Gambia-L subscribers
are already active in international human rights circles and democracy
movements (e.g. Ndey Jobarteh), and I think they might be able to provide us
some valuable hand-holding. And by the way, I would like to ask Ndey
Jobarteh and Saiks Samateh if we might be allowed to use their slogan "For
Freedom" as the motto of the umbrella organization I am proposing. What do
you think?
I'll leave it that until later. And with up-coming meetings in DC and other
places, I would suggest that we start building a coordinating team to work
with Soffie Ceesay and Alpha Robinson to get the umbrella organization and
other activities off the ground. Please keep the positive dialog flowing,
and God willing, we shall overcome. Best wishes in your endeavors.
Katim
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Hi Guys
sorry for the late update, have been kinda busy. Anyways, I have the site
for the e-mail petition almost done and should have it up and running by
tomorrow evening. You can have a sneak peak at it at
http://www.gambia.f2s.com. I'll send an e-mail tomorrow when its up and
functional but I still need the following
1. The letter of protest
2. E-mail addr and list or organisations we are going to send the
petition to (include regular mail addresses too if u have them)
Actually the above 2 items are the only things holding me back.
If you are sending any information to the list that might be useful to me,
please cc: (carbon copy) me in your e-mail (its easier to read the mail)
Thanks people
Pope
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Buharry,
Advertise the meeting on your flier. That will be very helpful.
I did not get your messages until this morning, so I've sent you my =
phone number under separate cover.
Seems to me one important detail we are missing is the great media =
outlets. They are completely silent about the massacre at home. So I =
think even before we send the petition to various organisations, it is =
urgent that we pester the TV stations and newspapers about their huge =
silence about the plight of our people.
I have sent e-mails and telephoned all major editiorial boards in =
Stockholm. But it will be far more effective if many more Gambians write =
and telephone:
Here are a few addresses and numbers for the major Swedish outlests:
[log in to unmask] 784 7300
[log in to unmask] 784 7700
[log in to unmask] 784 0000
TV4 459 4100; 598 444 44
It is of major importance that this brutal killing of defenceless =
students in Gambia be broadcast internationally. So let us write and =
telephone and continue to write until CNN and the BBC and the rest of =
them show the world what happened.
Sidibeh=20
From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Petition Draft
Hi Momodou!
The draft's responsibility at the moment is with =
Yankuba Njie. Your suggestion is good. Yankuba, please take note.=20
I called you earlier Sidibeh but your number has changed. Please =
call me or send me your number. I want to take the petition to a Gambian =
gathering tomorrow and prepare a few fliers. If it is fine with you I =
can advertise your meeting in the flier. Thanks.
=
Buharry.
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From: MSSidibeh=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: Petition Draft
Great Buharry!
But please kindly include the demand to immediately make =
known the identity of all those who died in this senseless =
carnage.
They should not just remain figures. Their names, age, =
sex, schools and what grades they were, all need to be =
immediately exposed.
Sidibeh.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 11:51 PM
Subject: Petition Draft
Hi!
I have worked on a draft of the petition to be sent to various =
organisations as requested by Abdoulie Saine. Please feel free to come =
up with suggestions and critique.=20
=
Buharry.
=
_________________________________________________________________________=
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Dear Sir/Madam,
A very tragic chapter in the history of =
our beloved nation, The Gambia, occurred on the 10th. And 11th. April =
2000 when security forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least =
28 people including a Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, =
during an unarmed demonstration organised by students. The students were =
protesting the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by =
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request =
you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The =
Gambia to immediately:
- instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use =
of force against civilians;=20
- release all the students currently under detention;
- release the names of those killed and release their =
bodies to their relatives for proper burial;
- launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances surrounding it;
- ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with according to the provisions of the law;
- instruct the security forces to exercise maximum =
restraint during demonstrations slated for next week;
- ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima =
Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent =
of the law without undue delay;
- ensure that all security personnel abide by the =
Constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and all international laws =
and treaties of which The Gambia is a signatory;
=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of =
matter of matters, we take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and =
your organization for your concern.
=
Sincerely,
=
Concerned Citizens of The Gambia.
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<DIV>Buharry,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Advertise the meeting on your flier. That will be very =
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I did not get your messages until this morning, so I've sent you my =
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number under separate cover.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Seems to me one important detail we are missing is the great =
media=20
outlets. They are completely silent about the massacre at home. So I =
think even=20
before we send the petition to various organisations, it is urgent =
that we=20
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plight=20
of our people.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have sent e-mails and telephoned all major editiorial boards in=20
Stockholm. But it will be far more effective if many more Gambians write =
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telephone:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Here are a few addresses and numbers for the major Swedish =
outlests:</DIV>
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784 7300</DIV>
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<DIV>TV4 459 4100; 598 444 =
44</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>It is of major importance that this brutal killing =
of defenceless=20
students in Gambia be broadcast internationally. So let us write and =
telephone=20
and continue to write until CNN and the BBC and the rest of them =
show the=20
world what happened.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sidibeh </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
[log in to unmask]>MOMODOU BUHARRY=20
GASSAMA</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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9:46=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Petition =
Draft</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Momodou!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> =
=20
The draft's responsibility at =
the moment=20
is with Yankuba Njie. Your suggestion is good. Yankuba, please take =
note.=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2> I called you earlier Sidibeh =
but your=20
number has changed. Please call me or send me your number. I want =
to take=20
the petition to a Gambian gathering tomorrow and prepare a few fliers. =
If it=20
is fine with you I can advertise your meeting in the flier.=20
Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
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[log in to unmask]>MSSidibeh</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 13, =
2000 9:24=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Petition =
Draft</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Great Buharry!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But please kindly include the =
demand to=20
immediately make known the identity of =
all =20
those who died in this senseless =
carnage.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>They should not just =
remain =20
figures. Their names, age, sex, =
schools and=20
what grades they were, all need =
to be=20
immediately exposed.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sidibeh.</DIV>
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<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
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BUHARRY GASSAMA</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 12, =
2000 11:51=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Petition =
Draft</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> I have worked on a draft of =
the=20
petition to be sent to various organisations as requested by =
Abdoulie=20
Saine. Please feel free to come up with suggestions and critique.=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2> =
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Buharry.</FONT></DIV>
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<P align=3Dcenter class=3DMsoTitle><U>TO WHOM IT MAY =
CONCERN</U></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify">Dear =
Sir/Madam,<SPAN=20
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p;</SPAN><SPAN=20
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</SPAN>A very tragic chapter in the history of our beloved nation, =
The=20
Gambia, occurred on the 10<SUP>th</SUP>. And 11<SUP>th</SUP>. =
April 2000=20
when security forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at =
least 28=20
people including a Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar =
Barrow, during=20
an unarmed demonstration organised by students. The students were=20
protesting the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry =
by Fire=20
Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta=20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested=20
and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the=20
dead or imprisoned.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify"> We the =
undersigned,=20
as concerned citizens, respectfully request you and your =
organization to=20
keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to immediately:</P>
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-18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
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</SPAN>release all the students currently under detention;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; TEXT-INDENT: =
-18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
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to their=20
relatives for proper burial;</P>
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circumstances=20
surrounding it;</P>
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-18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
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Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive=20
force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with =
according=20
to the provisions of the law;</P>
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-18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
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Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
during=20
demonstrations slated for next week;</P>
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-18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt">-<SPAN=20
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Roman'"> =20
</SPAN>ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima =
Barry and=20
the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of =
the law=20
without undue delay;</P>
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</SPAN>ensure that all security personnel abide by the =
Constitution of The=20
Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of =
which=20
The Gambia is a signatory;</P>
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justify"> <?xml:namespace=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: justify">While awaiting =
your kind=20
co-operation in this most urgent of matter of matters, we take the =
opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for your=20
concern.</P>
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Please let me know when the petition letter is final so I can upload it to
the online petition website.
Pope
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Hi mr Manneh,
Many thanks for your immediate response and efforts you are undertaking to
see the success of this proposed demonstration. A lot of fellow Gambian
don't have access to the Net and hence they were informed through other
means and the appointment is already in place to get the permit from
Kensington police station. We suggest to go ahead with the planed
demonstration on monday.
Please be assured that your efforts are honoured, we reckon to meet you in
advance on Monday at(10:00am by the tube station) to coordinates- few things
together before people arrive at site.
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Hi Yankuba!
Here is a copy of the petition. I think you are
responsible for it now. You can add Sidibeh's suggestion to it and if no
more suggestions come your way, then you can assume the letter to be the
final draft. Thanks.
Buharry.
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Dear Sir/Madam,
A very tragic chapter in the history of our beloved
nation, The Gambia, occurred on the 10th. And 11th. April 2000 when security
forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least 28 people including a
Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, during an unarmed
demonstration organised by students. The students were protesting the
torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service
personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a
police officer. Hundreds of students have since been arrested and distraught
parents do not know whether their children are among the dead or imprisoned.
We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request you and
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to
immediately:
- instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of force
against civilians;
- release all the students currently under detention;
- release the names of those killed and release their bodies to
their relatives for proper burial;
- launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances
surrounding it;
- ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive
force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to
the provisions of the law;
- instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint during
demonstrations slated for next week;
- ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and
the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law
without undue delay;
- ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution of
The Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of which
The Gambia is a signatory;
While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matters, we
take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for your
concern.
Sincerely,
Concerned Citizens
of The Gambia.
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> Please let me know when the petition letter is final so I can upload it to
> the online petition website.
>
> Pope
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Hi Yankuba!
Here is a list of addresses.
Buharry.
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Africa Centre - [log in to unmask]
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Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:45 AM
Subject: Website for E-Mail Petition
> Hi Guys
> sorry for the late update, have been kinda busy. Anyways, I have the site
> for the e-mail petition almost done and should have it up and running by
> tomorrow evening. You can have a sneak peak at it at
> http://www.gambia.f2s.com. I'll send an e-mail tomorrow when its up and
> functional but I still need the following
>
> 1. The letter of protest
> 2. E-mail addr and list or organisations we are going to send the
> petition to (include regular mail addresses too if u have them)
>
> Actually the above 2 items are the only things holding me back.
>
> If you are sending any information to the list that might be useful to me,
> please cc: (carbon copy) me in your e-mail (its easier to read the mail)
>
> Thanks people
>
> Pope
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Culled from GRTS News,
"The government of the Gambia has called a press conference yesterday for
what its spokesman Mr. Sarjo Jallow said was to appeal to all Gambians to
help guide the healing process following fatal students riots on Monday and
Tuesday. The press conference took place at the Interior Department in
Banjul, and attended by about half of the cabinet, including senior security
officers. The government spokesman Mr. Jallow, who is also the Information
Secretary, said they are in touch with President Yaya Jammeh, whom he said
is expected back in Banjul from Cuba as soon as possible. Mr. Jallow said
the president and the cabinet are concerned about incidents of the last few
days, and are committted to see justice done. But he also appealed to the
public to exercise patience and allow investigations into the riots to
conclude. Meanwhile. the Health Secretary Abdoulie Sallah said 20 people are
still receiving treatment at the RVH. He said nine dead bodies have been
identified, but there still remains two bodies, one of which is a ten-year
old child. The other one is a young man. Mr. Sallah said a post-motem on
the bodies are being carried out by pathologists, and they will produce
their report by next week.
At the same press conference, the Interior Secretary Ousman Badgie has
again stated that gun shootings in the riots on Monday were fired by
criminals who attacked police stations to get arms. He said the information
they have is that during the chaos some convicts from police stations in
Kotu, Bunding and Serre Kunda ransacked these stations, which were then
attacked by ex-prisoners from Mile Two central prisons. Mr. Badgie pointed
out that they now have two people in custudy, whom he said attacked the
armoury of Serre Kunda police and took away arms. He said the two have in
fact revealed eight other names, who also belong to the gang, and are all
said to be ex-convicts. Mr. Badgie's comments corroborate those of the Vice
President Isatou Njie Saidy, who said on Wednesday that shooting come from
within the demonstrators, thus exonerating the security forces of any firing
of life bullets. Mr. Badgie also denied that there are any students beaten
in police stations or at GTTI. The Interior Secretary has also condemned the
phone-in programmes that Radio One FM, and Sud FM Banjul conducted in the
wake of the riots. He said they are not encouraging, and could create an
upheaval. Mr. Badgie said investigations are going on into facts of the
riots, but he dismissed a call from a jouirnalist that outside independent
police be invited to carry out the investigations. He said the Gambia is a
sovereign state, and it has a competent and capable police force to do that
on its own.
Also speaking at the press conference the Justice Secretary Pap Cheyassin
Secka said an inquiry will be carried out into the events of the last few
days, and that all offenders will face the law. He also revealed that the
case of Ebrima Barry, the schoolboy who died in Brikama after allegedly
been beaten by fire service officers, will be filed next week. He said his
department will appoint a public prosecutor, and will foot the bills
itself, but they would not interfere with the proceedings. He also said
members of the public are invited to suggest names of lawyers, either at
home or abroad, who can conduct the prosecution. In the case of the raped
school girl from Brikama-ba, Binta Manneh, Mr. Secka said his office faces
the difficulty of identifying the alleged rapist, and called on the general
public to help in the identification of the alleged rapist. A few weeks ago
the police lined up its forces and asked Binta to identify who raped her,
but she could not pin-point anyone. The Justice secretary also pointed out
that students have a right to demonstrate under the constitution of the
country, but he said that right is not absolute. He said students should
have informed the relevant authorities about it, who would have to decide
when and where it should be held. Mr. Secka said pathologists are examining
bodies, and by next week they would be ready to establish the cause of the
injuries and deaths.
The Education secretary Ann Therese Ndong Jatta has also spoken in favour of
the actions of the security forces to put down demonstrations on Monday, on
the grounds that the government had the right to maintain law and order and
stability. Speaking at a government organised press conference yesterday,
she said the students never consulted her office about what they intended to
do on Monday. She said their move was clandestine, which was lately detected
by the intelligence service. She noted that the chaos could have been
avoided if students had contacted the relevant authorities."
A.Drammeh.
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You know what I am talking about. more over,why didn't you answer to all
my queries but only pick on one name to critize.You are the very one who
cry loud for a critism not long ago.I am not saying that we should be
quiet of what is happenning in the Gambia,It definitely wrong.what I am
saying here is that those who are to be blamed are not,due to the swift
response they will recieve.Let us stop denying the truth.How can we trust
each other if the truths are hiding inside us.
think about that.
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EDI LK SIDIBEH NAAKANTIE 2C9
DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS & ADMINISTRATION 48320 KOTKA
KYMENLAAKSO POLYTECHNIQUE
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PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Jabou Joh wrote:
> In a message dated 4/13/00 12:19:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
> writes:
>
> << It is always hard being in an African organisation without relative or
> > closed friends.I am positive that Mr saidy is following orders to secure
> > his job like anyone on the list would have done.Disobeying your boss means
> > your dismisssal in our system, and non of us in the list will consider
> > Tonbong if dismissed >>
> Mr Sidibeh,
>
> Only people without any sense of decency will be part of a government that
> has wrecked the havoc on our people that this regime has. I say if Isatou
> Njie Saidy had any sense of decency, courage and responsibility, she should
> have walked off the job instead of delivering that cowardly order to murder
> our children in the street like they were flies to be swatted off.All of the
> officials of this regime will have to pay the price of what they are doing
> one of these days very soon. I hope they realize that Gambians will not fail
> to demand their trials in an international forum for the human rights
> violations they are heaping on our people. Tombong Saidy is part amd parcel
> of this murderous regime, so please spare us the appeals to understand his
> plight. We understand his plight, he is sacrificing our people for his own
> comfort as the rest of them are.
>
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Katim,
This is a wonderful proposal. I endorse it wholeheartedly!
Saul.
>Hi folks,
>
>First, I would like to apologize for my long period of silence in the
>aftermath of the senseless killing of 14 people, and the wounding of t
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G-l,
Even the principlas have changed their position???
Culled from GRTS News
Home News
The principals of all junior and senior schools wish to inform the general
public that they all condemned the act of barbarism displayed by the
students and their supporters. A press release issued from the conference of
principals of senior and junior schools, which took place at the regional
education office in Kanifing today, says at no stage did those present blame
the security personnel, contrary to a publication in the daily observer of
12th April. It says the principals of most schools were disturbed that
students in some schools where busy writing examinations when they were
forced to join in the demonstration and when they refused their examination
papers were taken from them and torn. The release further states that the
principals wish to assure the government of their support at all times to
stamp out indiscipline.
The leaders have asked all mosques and churches to offer prayers for the
deceased and for peace and stability.
A.Drammeh.
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Edi,
I disagree with Jabou on several issues, but the woman is totally right on
this one. Your empathy with the likes of Tombong, and your attempt to
rationalize their behavior is at best very confusing. Personally, I've long
cease to believe that there is a monolithic group of citizenry called
Gambians. For indeed, we're as diverse in our mentality as people from the
biggest countries on earth. Some of us will sell our own parents just "to
make it." But as conny as it may sound to you, there are many Gambians who
would rather be peasant farmers than do what Tombong and his cohorts are
doing to our country. So, this idea that we'll all do what they're doing if
we had the chance is absolutely false. No offense intended Edi, but you're
dead wrong on this one!
Saul.
>You know what I am talking about. more over,why didn't you answer to all
>my queries but only pick on one name to critize.You are the very one w
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Thanks Mr Janteh,
I shall see you all there then.
Dave
Ndembos Janteh wrote:
> Hi mr Manneh,
> Many thanks for your immediate response and efforts you are undertaking to
> see the success of this proposed demonstration. A lot of fellow Gambian
> don't have access to the Net and hence they were informed through other
> means and the appointment is already in place to get the permit from
> Kensington police station. We suggest to go ahead with the planed
> demonstration on monday.
> Please be assured that your efforts are honoured, we reckon to meet you in
> advance on Monday at(10:00am by the tube station) to coordinates- few things
> together before people arrive at site.
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Brother Dave,
It is easy to say you are God fearing if you are living in foreign
country.Moreover,There is one in every thousand in the African continent
like Mandela.I can be in Finland here talking bull-shit but on my arrival
to the Banjul airport,I will deny if questioned.Is that God fearing?
Brother I am sure if someone offers you a ticket right now to go back home
and say all what you had been saying,will you be God fearing and do so?
Again you said it will be for family to grass than to do that job Tonbong
and others are doing? That is you own choice Brother men, but I will do
anything to see to my family's survival,Without them I am nowhere.Name
others and if you are God fearing, I mean does whose who have families on
the Net.
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Dave Manneh wrote:
> Mr Sidibeh,
> With all due respect some jobs are just not worth the "dough". If someone willingly
> serves under a corrupt and murderous government (as these guys are) then
> one has to be prepared to be responsible for the actions of that government.
>
> I personally think there is one point you and possibly these guys are deluding yourselves
> with, if Tombong or the good ambassador don't realize that working with murderers,
> butchers and COWARDS ( I write cowards in bold, for we can all remember when just a
> couple of MEN WITHOUT guns made these "pillocks" vacate their barrack in Farafeni
> within 5 minutes with their tails between their legs) contradicts human decency, then god help us.
>
> I promised not to be too emotional, but I just damn can't .If Tombong and the good ambassador
> are good god- fearing men, then they should resign from this murderous band of mad men and
> women driving our dear nation to the abyss forthwith. If they have an iota of decency in them,
> their resignation letters would be waiting for the world's biggest "twerp" when he gets out of his
> slumber (and realizes that a dozen young people have just been murdered by his henchmen, and
> that warrants him to leave Cuba for home) when he finally decides to go back home!!
>
> Till then please spare us this rubbish of them being decent and also our brothers. I will not speak
> to my own brother or my mum for that reason, if she serves under these dogs. And hey, I would not
> keep the job even if my family has to eat dirt!!
>
> Throughout the history of mankind countless men have sacrificed their lives of privileges for
> the truth. Mandela had to endure over a quarter of a century of incarceration, but he knew the
> price was worth paying. He is a decent man. So did Gandhi, and a countless others people.
> Sometimes one's personal sacrifice for the good of all outweighs everything else. If your "brothers"
> are so decent why the hell does anyone have to spell that out to them??
>
> Have a good day.
>
> Manneh
>
>
>
> edi sidibeh wrote:
>
> > It is always hard being in an African organisation without relative or
> > closed friends.I am positive that Mr saidy is following orders to secure
> > his job like anyone on the list would have done.Disobeying your boss means
> > your dismisssal in our system, and non of us in the list will consider
> > Tonbong if dismissed.We were all once workers in the Gambia and know how
> > it was like.As I always said;we are all opportunist one way or the
> > other,but we hardly see our own opportunistic behaviours.There are people
> > on the list whose relatives are in the government but after the Ebou saga
> > no one dears to tourch him on the L and they are among the heads of the
> > government.Insult was not constitutional in this forum, but recently
> > people were off-tracked.
> >
> > It is very sound talking about abuses of power in the country by Yahya and
> > colleages,which should be addressed to stopped immetiately by any means.I
> > don't know what help will it be attacking Tonbong and the ambassador for
> > working to earn their livings.You are insulting your own brother(Gambian)
> > you have never met without sound grounds, just because he or she happen to
> > working for the government you don't like is undemocratic. So let us
> > practise that we are preaching and stop this childish acts of attacking
> > each other. If this forum is a Government, will it be democratic? hell;I
> > doubt it. Sorry If I offended anyone,I am speaking my mind as a Gambian
> > too.
> >
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Buharry,
That was a great job done. Kindly post a copy of the draft petion to me, I
will try to mobilise the people in Gothenburg.
Yahya
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>Hi!
> I just noticed that I made a mistake in the draft. I wrote:
>"While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter of
>matters". It should read: ""While awaiting your kind co-operation in this
>most urgent of matters" . Please take note so that it can be corrected in
>the printouts and in the final petition. Thanks.
>
> Buharry.
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>
> Hi!
> I have worked on a draft of the petition to be sent to various
>organisations as requested by Abdoulie Saine. Please feel free to come up
>with suggestions and critique.
>
> Buharry.
>
>_____________________________________________________________________________________
>
> TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
>
> Dear Sir/Madam,
>
> A very tragic chapter in the history of our
>beloved nation, The Gambia, occurred on the 10th. And 11th. April 2000 when
>security forces opened fire and killed 14 and injured at least 28 people
>including a Red Cross volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, during an
>unarmed demonstration organised by students. The students were protesting
>the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service
>personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a
>police officer. Hundreds of students have since been arrested and
>distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the dead or
>imprisoned.
>
> We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request you and
>your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to
>immediately:
>
> - instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of
>force against civilians;
>
> - release all the students currently under detention;
>
> - release the names of those killed and release their bodies to
>their relatives for proper burial;
>
> - launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and
>circumstances surrounding it;
>
> - ensure that all security personnel found to have used
>excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with
>according to the provisions of the law;
>
> - instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint
>during demonstrations slated for next week;
>
> - ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry
>and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the
>law without undue delay;
>
> - ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution
>of The Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of
>which The Gambia is a signatory;
>
>
>
> While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter of
>matters, we take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and your
>organization for your concern.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Concerned Citizens of The Gambia.
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Soul,
I am not wrong,this is the truth you know it.There are lots of sceneries
going on in this particular list which are really hard to swallow.people
tend to forget very easily that the forum has laws that everyone should
abide by,yet the government of this forum is not doing anything about
it.Then again they are calling for democracy.
What we need now in the
Gambia is honesty no hidden agenda,but it seems the nepotism and like are
still in the mind of the people, even we who are living in real democratic
countries for many many years cannot work on the truth line. There is
always hidden agenda in everyone mind.
If the intellectuals of this forum
are looking into the eye of the other, who shall we trust to be our future
leaders?We need people who can decide in favour of the Gambia and the
Gambian to lead the country,Not those who will always give false
promises.This is the place we can identify an effective future leader of
our beloved mother-land, but how can we without trusting one and other or
should I say respecting each other's point of view.
MAY GOD BLESS THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND.
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On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, saul khan wrote:
> Edi,
>
> I disagree with Jabou on several issues, but the woman is totally right on
> this one. Your empathy with the likes of Tombong, and your attempt to
> rationalize their behavior is at best very confusing. Personally, I've long
> cease to believe that there is a monolithic group of citizenry called
> Gambians. For indeed, we're as diverse in our mentality as people from the
> biggest countries on earth. Some of us will sell our own parents just "to
> make it." But as conny as it may sound to you, there are many Gambians who
> would rather be peasant farmers than do what Tombong and his cohorts are
> doing to our country. So, this idea that we'll all do what they're doing if
> we had the chance is absolutely false. No offense intended Edi, but you're
> dead wrong on this one!
>
> Saul.
>
> >You know what I am talking about. more over,why didn't you answer to all
> >my queries but only pick on one name to critize.You are the very one w
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Man,
you are becoming very irritating. people just sick of hearing your
perverse views of the plight of Gambians. If you really want to play
kindergarten, I suggest you take it elsewhere. people are just not in the
mood for nitpicking and pettiness!!!
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And what exactly were your queries, Mr Sidibeh?
The fact is that these guys have the freedom to either associate or disassociate
themselves with this barbaric government, and thus they are not blameless.
If you cannot see that, then that's up to you.
By the way I did not pick on any individual name, but every single person
that serves with that unfortunate band of bandits.
The fundamentals of what I wrote are quite clear ands concise to understand,
and anyone with common sense can clearly see that.
Again, I reiterate, if even my mum serves under that government, I shall disown her.
NB With regards to your second email I shall just say that if you think when I get to the Airport
in The Gambia and got interrogated, I would deny what I wrote, then you really do not know me.
I fear no man, except Allah, but again you are entitled to your opinions.
May I again reiterate that, this is nothing personal against you, I just thought
you erred in your reasoning, and thus my reply to your email.
Do not turn this into another personal trading of insults. I do not have time for it,
and more over the time is DEFINITELY NOT RIGHT FOR IT.
And just reiterate my point to you, I have this Finnish quote for you which
I learnt during my student exchange days at Helia Polyteknic, Helsinki.
"Lopeta tuo ja ole realistinen!!" or much more modernly "Heraa pahvi ja ole realistinen!"
Have a good day.
Dave
edi sidibeh wrote:
> You know what I am talking about. more over,why didn't you answer to all
> my queries but only pick on one name to critize.You are the very one who
> cry loud for a critism not long ago.I am not saying that we should be
> quiet of what is happenning in the Gambia,It definitely wrong.what I am
> saying here is that those who are to be blamed are not,due to the swift
> response they will recieve.Let us stop denying the truth.How can we trust
> each other if the truths are hiding inside us.
> think about that.
>
> __________________________________________________________________
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> DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS & ADMINISTRATION 48320 KOTKA
> KYMENLAAKSO POLYTECHNIQUE
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> PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>
> On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Jabou Joh wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 4/13/00 12:19:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
> > writes:
> >
> > << It is always hard being in an African organisation without relative or
> > > closed friends.I am positive that Mr saidy is following orders to secure
> > > his job like anyone on the list would have done.Disobeying your boss means
> > > your dismisssal in our system, and non of us in the list will consider
> > > Tonbong if dismissed >>
> > Mr Sidibeh,
> >
> > Only people without any sense of decency will be part of a government that
> > has wrecked the havoc on our people that this regime has. I say if Isatou
> > Njie Saidy had any sense of decency, courage and responsibility, she should
> > have walked off the job instead of delivering that cowardly order to murder
> > our children in the street like they were flies to be swatted off.All of the
> > officials of this regime will have to pay the price of what they are doing
> > one of these days very soon. I hope they realize that Gambians will not fail
> > to demand their trials in an international forum for the human rights
> > violations they are heaping on our people. Tombong Saidy is part amd parcel
> > of this murderous regime, so please spare us the appeals to understand his
> > plight. We understand his plight, he is sacrificing our people for his own
> > comfort as the rest of them are.
> >
> > Jabou Joh
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And what exactly were your queries, Mr Sidibeh?
<br>The fact is that these guys have the freedom to either associate or
disassociate
<br>themselves with this barbaric government, and thus they are not blameless.
<br>If you cannot see that, then that's up to you.
<p>By the way I did not pick on any individual name, but every single person
<br>that serves with that unfortunate band of bandits.
<br>The fundamentals of what I wrote are quite clear ands concise to understand,
<br>and anyone with common sense can clearly see that.
<br>Again, I reiterate, if even my mum serves under that government, I
shall disown her.
<p>NB With regards to your second email I shall just say that if you think
when I get to the Airport
<br>in The Gambia and got interrogated, I would deny what I wrote, then
you really do not know me.
<br>I fear no man, except Allah, but again you are entitled to your opinions.
<br>May I again reiterate that, this is nothing personal against you, I
just thought
<br>you erred in your reasoning, and thus my reply to your email.
<br>Do not turn this into another personal trading of insults. I
do not have time for it,
<br>and more over the time is DEFINITELY NOT RIGHT FOR IT.
<p> And just reiterate my point to you, I have this Finnish quote
for you which
<br>I learnt during my student exchange days at Helia Polyteknic, Helsinki.
<br><b>"Lopeta tuo ja ole realistinen!!" or</b> much more modernly<b>
"Heraa pahvi ja ole realistinen!"</b>
<p>Have a good day.
<br>Dave
<p>
<p>edi sidibeh wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>You know what I am talking about. more over,why didn't
you answer to all
<br>my queries but only pick on one name to critize.You are the very one
who
<br>cry loud for a critism not long ago.I am not saying that we should
be
<br>quiet of what is happenning in the Gambia,It definitely wrong.what
I am
<br>saying here is that those who are to be blamed are not,due to the swift
<br>response they will recieve.Let us stop denying the truth.How can we
trust
<br>each other if the truths are hiding inside us.
<br>think about that.
<p>__________________________________________________________________
<br>EDI LK SIDIBEH
NAAKANTIE 2C9
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48320 KOTKA
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<p>On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Jabou Joh wrote:
<p>> In a message dated 4/13/00 12:19:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
<br>> writes:
<br>>
<br>> << It is always hard being in an African organisation
without relative or
<br>> > closed friends.I am positive that Mr saidy is following orders
to secure
<br>> > his job like anyone on the list would have done.Disobeying
your boss means
<br>> > your dismisssal in our system, and non of us in the list
will consider
<br>> > Tonbong if dismissed >>
<br>> Mr Sidibeh,
<br>>
<br>> Only people without any sense of decency will be part of a government
that
<br>> has wrecked the havoc on our people that this regime has. I say if
Isatou
<br>> Njie Saidy had any sense of decency, courage and responsibility,
she should
<br>> have walked off the job instead of delivering that cowardly order
to murder
<br>> our children in the street like they were flies to be swatted off.All
of the
<br>> officials of this regime will have to pay the price of what they
are doing
<br>> one of these days very soon. I hope they realize that Gambians will
not fail
<br>> to demand their trials in an international forum for the human
rights
<br>> violations they are heaping on our people. Tombong Saidy is part
amd parcel
<br>> of this murderous regime, so please spare us the appeals to understand
his
<br>> plight. We understand his plight, he is sacrificing our people for
his own
<br>> comfort as the rest of them are.
<br>>
<br>> Jabou Joh
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According to reliable sources from The Gambia, the military dictatorship may
be burying some victims from last week's violence. A friend told me that at
least 50 people have been killed.
He has urged me to let members of Gambia-L appeal to family members the
number of parents who cannot account for their children. He stated that such
an inquiry will set light to the number of people killed by the military
dictatorship.
Comrade,
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Alpha, Nabiha -
I am asking your permission to print and distribute your pieces at the
demonstration today, with your names added as authors. Please let me know
if I can as soon as before 9:00 US time. Only through documentation can we
keep our history alive and your writings do this beautifully. Thank you.
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The best thing for you to do is to unsubscribe.I have my right to speak my
mind.Who are you to tell me not to. A leader like you will just be another
Jaja jammeh reading your contributions on this list. You have bullshit
many and i think,it is your type who should excuse us.As far as I am
recieving responses, I will keep on writting whether you like it or not.
Edi
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PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Hamjatta Kanteh wrote:
> Man,
> you are becoming very irritating. people just sick of hearing your
> perverse views of the plight of Gambians. If you really want to play
> kindergarten, I suggest you take it elsewhere. people are just not in the
> mood for nitpicking and pettiness!!!
> Hamjatta
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Well said Dagma
Habib
adama jombel wrote:
> MR JOW;
> THE OBSERVER DOES NOT HAVE AN IMPECABLE TRACK RECORD!!!.I SUGGEST YOU TAKE
> YOU OWN ADVISE, TO PUT IT MIDLY, COOL OFF, UNTIL THE REPORTER IN QUESTION
> COMES UP WITH PROOF OR SOME EVIDENCE THAT INDEED MARY SAMBA-CHRISTENSEN MADE
> THESE COMMENTS/REMARKS.SHE HAS DEFENDED HER HONOR BY PUBLICLY REFUTING THE
> ALLEGATIONS - AND WILL NOT SHUT UP TO BUSINESS AS USUAL BECAUSE IT IS NOT!.
> I TAKE IT YOU ARE SUGGESTING WE TAKE EVERYTHING THE OBSERVER SAYS AS GOSPEL
> TRUTH.WELL WE ARE ALL IN FOR BIG TROUBLE IF WE DO.I NEED NOT SAY ANYMORE
> RIGHT NOW.
> DAGMAR CHRISTENSEN
>
> >From: Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]>
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> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Message from Mary Samba-Christensen (Update)
> >Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:09:33 -0400
> >
> >Astrid, no disrespect to your sister in law, but I doubt very much that the
> >Observer would quote her without talking to her. Until her organization
> >issues a statement that emphatically condemned what happened, she should
> >shut up and go back to her everyday business.
> >
> >Yus
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Joe
I have met Mary Samba and I think she is one of the few women who stands for
justice in her profession . I can attest to that
Habib.
astrid christensen-tasong wrote:
> Joe,
> You have all rights to comment. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and
> here's mine:
>
> Yes I do believe Mary never spoke to a reporter..Why? Because she said so
> and issued a public statement to attest to that. If she in fact was to
> speak to a reporter, don't you think that she would indeed know she was
> speaking to a reporter and that the story will be reported? Why would she
> come back and retract her statement?
>
> Knowing Mary as a woman of principles,dignity,integrity and conscience (not
> because she's my sister in law), and being a lawyer at that, don't you think
> she's smarter than that? If she had said those words I know she would STAND
> by it.
>
> I think we have more important issues at hand than "He Said" She Said".
>
> Astrid/
>
> >From: joe sambou <[log in to unmask]>
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> >Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:31:05 -0500
> >
> ><< text1.html >>
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I do not insult and will never tried to bad mouth anyone on a count that I
will not be able to maintain myself. I judge people by putting myself in
their place.If you think my repond is insulting,I am sorry please, but I
have my right to agree or disagree.
bye for now.
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On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Dave Manneh wrote:
> And what exactly were your queries, Mr Sidibeh?
> The fact is that these guys have the freedom to either associate or disassociate
> themselves with this barbaric government, and thus they are not blameless.
> If you cannot see that, then that's up to you.
>
> By the way I did not pick on any individual name, but every single person
> that serves with that unfortunate band of bandits.
> The fundamentals of what I wrote are quite clear ands concise to understand,
> and anyone with common sense can clearly see that.
> Again, I reiterate, if even my mum serves under that government, I shall disown her.
>
> NB With regards to your second email I shall just say that if you think when I get to the Airport
> in The Gambia and got interrogated, I would deny what I wrote, then you really do not know me.
> I fear no man, except Allah, but again you are entitled to your opinions.
> May I again reiterate that, this is nothing personal against you, I just thought
> you erred in your reasoning, and thus my reply to your email.
> Do not turn this into another personal trading of insults. I do not have time for it,
> and more over the time is DEFINITELY NOT RIGHT FOR IT.
>
> And just reiterate my point to you, I have this Finnish quote for you which
> I learnt during my student exchange days at Helia Polyteknic, Helsinki.
> "Lopeta tuo ja ole realistinen!!" or much more modernly "Heraa pahvi ja ole realistinen!"
>
> Have a good day.
> Dave
>
>
>
> edi sidibeh wrote:
>
> > You know what I am talking about. more over,why didn't you answer to all
> > my queries but only pick on one name to critize.You are the very one who
> > cry loud for a critism not long ago.I am not saying that we should be
> > quiet of what is happenning in the Gambia,It definitely wrong.what I am
> > saying here is that those who are to be blamed are not,due to the swift
> > response they will recieve.Let us stop denying the truth.How can we trust
> > each other if the truths are hiding inside us.
> > think about that.
> >
> > __________________________________________________________________
> > EDI LK SIDIBEH NAAKANTIE 2C9
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> > PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
> >
> > On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Jabou Joh wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 4/13/00 12:19:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
> > > writes:
> > >
> > > << It is always hard being in an African organisation without relative or
> > > > closed friends.I am positive that Mr saidy is following orders to secure
> > > > his job like anyone on the list would have done.Disobeying your boss means
> > > > your dismisssal in our system, and non of us in the list will consider
> > > > Tonbong if dismissed >>
> > > Mr Sidibeh,
> > >
> > > Only people without any sense of decency will be part of a government that
> > > has wrecked the havoc on our people that this regime has. I say if Isatou
> > > Njie Saidy had any sense of decency, courage and responsibility, she should
> > > have walked off the job instead of delivering that cowardly order to murder
> > > our children in the street like they were flies to be swatted off.All of the
> > > officials of this regime will have to pay the price of what they are doing
> > > one of these days very soon. I hope they realize that Gambians will not fail
> > > to demand their trials in an international forum for the human rights
> > > violations they are heaping on our people. Tombong Saidy is part amd parcel
> > > of this murderous regime, so please spare us the appeals to understand his
> > > plight. We understand his plight, he is sacrificing our people for his own
> > > comfort as the rest of them are.
> > >
> > > Jabou Joh
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FELLOW GAMBIANS THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE PUBLISHED DATE OF THE MONDAY
17th APRIL 2000.
DUE TO THE OVERBOOKING OF THE POLICE PRESENCE AT DIFFERENT DEMONSTRATIONS
WITHIN KENSINGTON BOROUGH WE ARE BEEN ALLOCATED TO TUESDAY 25th APRIL 2000
AS THE ONLY OPTION OPEN.
WE THEREFORE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INFORM ALL CONCERN GAMBIANS THAT THIS
DAY THE 25th IS THE APPROPRIATE DAY AND IS NOW CONFIRMED AT 11:00am.
PLEASE MR DAVE MANNEH,SAUL KHAN,HAMAJJA,EBRIMA CEESAY AND COLLEAGUES, CAN
YOU PARTICIPATE IN DISSEMINATING THIS MESSAGE.
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Dears gambian brothers and sisters,
I am forwarding a support message from one of our members in the senegalese
community in USA. I know that this position is that of all people who
struggle for justice, democracy and human dignity.
I myself strongly support this position and will be always by your side.
Keep it up folks, year 2000 is the begining of the end of all dictatorships
in Third World countries.
We shall win!!!!
Mor Fall Dieng
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:42:30 -0400
We fully support our gambian brothers in their struglle against dictatoship
and murder.
As Dr King said " unjustice anywhere is injustice everywhere" this specially
in the context of the particular and strong ties between senegalese nad
Gambian people.
We will stand with you all untill justice is done.
To support our commmon goal we have setup a special gambia page on our
website to keep the international opinion informed about the sad events
unfolding in Gambia.
We shall not be defeat1
Down with the murderers!
Down with the dictators.
Justice now and forever!
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<DIV><FONT size=2>We fully support our gambian brothers in their struglle
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ties between senegalese nad Gambian people.<BR>We will stand with you all untill
justice is done.<BR>To support our commmon goal we have setup a special gambia
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In a message dated 4/14/00 6:15:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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G-l,
Even the principlas have changed their position???
Culled from GRTS News
Home News
The principals of all junior and senior schools wish to inform the general
public that they all condemned the act of barbarism displayed by the
students and their supporters.
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Gee whiz, the propaganda to cover up is in full force, and all the cowards
are rushing to cover themselves by betraying even their students. What a
crying shame, but these shameless bunch of Gambians will go down in history
and be remembered for this cowardly act.
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George:
I hope you'd be able to design the site for us. Matters such as a domain name, content, etc. could be decided by members of our e-community. 10April2000.com was suggested merely as a starting point, and I already own 41Africa.com. Suggestions on all aspects of the site are welcome from list members.
Let me know so that I can get the relevant material to you soon. I should be in Atlanta this weekend.
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Dear Edi,
I am sure you do not want to go down in history and our memories as the one
who came to the rescue of this regime even as the dead bodies of our kids are
lying all over the place, and the whereabouts of some of the arrested are not
known. I appeal to you to think very clearly and discontinue this dialogue.
We are in shambles over the murder and potential murder of even more of our
citizens, and all you can concentrate on is to go on this endless tirade to
defend Tombong Saidy and officials of this regime? Are you at all concerned
about what is going on, and who is responsible? The President and all serving
under him are responsible because they are part of this regime. The only way
they cannot be held responsible is if they had walked away from being
associated in any way with this regime.Please stop this senseless defense for
your own sake.
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Hey Mr Edi or whatever you chose to call yourself,
Continue with your prattle which you are very much entitled to but save
us your absurdities. Just continue to make a fumbling fool of your self.
Please remember that this is a time of mourning and the least you could do
for yourself is to respect the memory of these slain school kids. Anything
short of that, would perversion of the highest order. Just remember that
whilst you continue with your kindergarten games.
Hamjatta
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Ndembos,
Would so post-haste. What about placards and slogans. We need more
details perhaps we need to speak personally and iron out the rest of the
wrinkles left.
Hamjatta Kanteh
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Please add my name to the signatuers, and i volunteer to send hard copies of
the petition by snail mail .
jabou Joh
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<< Hi Yankuba!
Here is a copy of the petition. I think you are
responsible for it now. You can add Sidibeh's suggestion to it and if no
more suggestions come your way, then you can assume the letter to be the
final draft. Thanks.
Buharry.
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Soffie,
I Know Alpha is on line but i can answer for him, YES, GO AHEAD!!. My
reason: i have sought and got permission from him for the Poem to be used on
BBC WORLD SERVICE (NETWORK AFRICA)and the local papers. The BBC used part of
the poem yesterday April 13th. He even asked if possible for the poem to be
read to the families. Will Do!!
Thanks Aplha.
Lang
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>Alpha, Nabiha -
>
>I am asking your permission to print and distribute your pieces at the
>demonstration today, with your names added as authors. Please let me know
>if I can as soon as before 9:00 US time. Only through documentation can we
>keep our history alive and your writings do this beautifully. Thank you.
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Gambia-l:
JammehMustGo.com could be our domain name as suggested earlier. And Katim has made excellent suggestions in terms of areas for volunteers; content; etc. Let's volunteer now to get things moving.
I am volunteering as an editor or researcher and I nominate Katim to coordinate the effort/project.
Amadou Scattred Janneh
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I agree with Modou Sidibeh that the Media is silent about this atrocity. I
have not seen anything here in the media, and I think we need to do something
about that.
Jabou
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<< Seems to me one important detail we are missing is the great media
outlets. They are completely silent about the massacre at home. So I think
even before we send the petition to various organisations, it is urgent that
we pester the TV stations and newspapers about their huge silence about the
plight of our people.
I have sent e-mails and telephoned all major editiorial boards in Stockholm.
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Hamajatta!
Can you contact us on the following Tel: numbers; Ebrima =020 76849059 or
ndembos on 020 72757521 to further disuss this issue.
We expect to receive your call soon.
Thanks.
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>Ndembos,
> Would so post-haste. What about placards and slogans. We need more
>details perhaps we need to speak personally and iron out the rest of the
>wrinkles left.
>Hamjatta Kanteh
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Katim,
I support your sugestions 100%. I have always believed that leeting the World
know about what is going on in Gambia is the answer. I am willing to do all I
can to assist in any capacity towards this. Thank you.
Jabou Joh
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<< Hi folks,
First, I would like to apologize for my long period of silence in the
aftermath of the senseless killing of 14 people, and the wounding of tens of
others, by our very own Gambian security forces. The events of this past
April 10 and 11 are a shame that will haunt us forever. I join the many
people on and off this list, and the world over in condemning these
killings, and expressing my condolences to the bereaved families.
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Jaboh,
It is also very important to get the infor through media organisation and=
also
tell them what is the prosition of the GPU and the dead of the journalist=
,this
might perhaps =
break the silence on thgeir side.
For Freedom
Saikss
I agree with Modou Sidibeh that the Media is silent about this atrocity. =
I
have not seen anything here in the media, and I think we need to do somet=
hing
about that.
Jabou
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k
even before we send the petition to various organisations, it is urgent t=
hat
we pester the TV stations and newspapers about their huge silence about t=
he
plight of our people.
I have sent e-mails and telephoned all major editiorial boards in Stockh=
olm.
But it will be far more effective if many more Gambians write and telepho=
ne:
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Thanks for the addresses, I will put them in the petition and will have
everything up and running today. Will send an e-mail to the list with
instructions. You can have a sneak peak at the petition form at
http://www.gambia.f2s.com under the petions section.
Pope
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Good Idea Saiks. I think that we should include the media in the list of
addresses we are sending the petition to.
Jabou
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It is also very important to get the infor through media organisation and
also
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might perhaps
break the silence on thgeir side.
For Freedom
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Just in case the final decision has not been made regarding the name of the
web site. I will
suggest
FreeGambia.com. or GambiaFree.com
This is to ensure that the name become relevant even after this regime is
gone.
Malanding
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> Gambia-l:
>
> JammehMustGo.com could be our domain name as suggested earlier. And
Katim has made excellent suggestions in terms of areas for volunteers;
content; etc. Let's volunteer now to get things moving.
>
> I am volunteering as an editor or researcher and I nominate Katim to
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>
> Amadou Scattred Janneh
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You may say so since a person like you is always trying to avoid the
truth,I know for certain that we are moaning in the gambia so what? Does
that means we should blame innocents for what happen? I think you are not
serious calling childish for speaking my mind, if here is childish act it
is you who is since join this forum,you are pain in the ass to everyone
who do not agree with you.Hey brother we are not in those generation
anymore, why can't you wake up to see the sun shinning,it is shinning from
different direction. I am going to contribute today and everyday in this
forum. you do not own it therefore, you are wasting your energy to try
silence me. I have thank you for giving more courage to contribute to the
forum.It is the only credibility you own from me.
LONG LIVE UNITY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR MOTHERLAND.
__________________________________________________________________
EDI LK SIDIBEH NAAKANTIE 2C9
DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS & ADMINISTRATION 48320 KOTKA
KYMENLAAKSO POLYTECHNIQUE
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PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Hamjatta Kanteh wrote:
> Hey Mr Edi or whatever you chose to call yourself,
> Continue with your prattle which you are very much entitled to but save
> us your absurdities. Just continue to make a fumbling fool of your self.
> Please remember that this is a time of mourning and the least you could do
> for yourself is to respect the memory of these slain school kids. Anything
> short of that, would perversion of the highest order. Just remember that
> whilst you continue with your kindergarten games.
> Hamjatta
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:28:42 -0400
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Subject: Re: Gambia Crisis - Solidarity from Senegal (And Jef)
Jaajef wa G-L,
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 21:15:05 -0400, I wrote that:
>People wishing to communicate up-to-date information on the current tragic
>events to Senegalese activists all over the world can do so at the
>discussion list "Forum des immigres" :
>
>http://www.ajpads.org/forum_two.htm
I am please to say that And Jef - PADS (African Party for Democracy &
Socialism) led by Landing Savane, have now set up a dedicated webpage on
their site, dedicated to the current crisis in the Gambia, in English (or
French if you prefer.
Please consider cross-posting factual reports, eyewitness accounts, details
of petitions and other important announcements to this page. The page can be
viewed at: www.ajpads.org/
This is an important act of solidarity and we should use it positively.
Yeenduleen ak jaama
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Subject: Re: Dr Janneh Website: 10April2000.com?
Amadou, you have my utter commitment on this project. I certainly can't be
doing any thing more important in my life that would prevent me from being
part of this. I owe it to these GAMSU. So sir yes sir! count me in. See u
in Atlanta. I Also look forward to working with any talented webmaster out
there. Let's put out collective expertise at work for the common good.
Wasalam
George Sarr
Developer
Microsarr Technology Firm.
FYI
Check out some of my work @ these sites namely,
http://www.gambiansonline.com
http://www.aarecycler.com
and the upcoming gambian reunion org "Sneak Preview"
At http://www.gambianreunion.org/gro.htm
George:
I hope you'd be able to design the site for us. Matters such as a domain name, content, etc. could be decided by members of our e-community. 10April2000.com was suggested merely as a starting point, and I already own 41Africa.com. Suggestions on all aspects of the site are welcome from list members.
Let me know so that I can get the relevant material to you soon. I should be in Atlanta this weekend.
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Folks,
It looks like Yankuba has done all the ground work for the site
question.Good job Yankuba.
I would suggest that we focus on getting materials for that site to speed up
things. Once things are in place migrating should not be a problem.
Malanding
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> Hi Guys
> sorry for the late update, have been kinda busy. Anyways, I have the site
> for the e-mail petition almost done and should have it up and running by
> tomorrow evening. You can have a sneak peak at it at
> http://www.gambia.f2s.com. I'll send an e-mail tomorrow when its up and
> functional but I still need the following
>
> 1. The letter of protest
> 2. E-mail addr and list or organisations we are going to send the
> petition to (include regular mail addresses too if u have them)
>
> Actually the above 2 items are the only things holding me back.
>
> If you are sending any information to the list that might be useful to me,
> please cc: (carbon copy) me in your e-mail (its easier to read the mail)
>
> Thanks people
>
> Pope
> YN
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proof is on Ms. Christensen. She should demand an apology from the <BR>
reporter that quoted her. Until that is done, I stand by my original <BR>
comments. I also think that your comments does not have an iota of <BR>
evidence to support her position that she never spoke to any <BR>
reporter. If she indeed did not speak to any reporter, then she <BR>
should do what Lawyers do best in such situations. So, please <BR>
chill. This is not a time for unnecessary bickering.<BR>
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Subject: To avoid confusions, Let's all focus on "ONE WEBSITE"
Am beginning to get confuse and my suggestion is to have one website period
One domain should do for the purpose of one thing: " justice for the GAMSU
senseless massacre". Let's put all collective efforts on one single site.
This is my opinion of course. The best will come out from collective effort
and undivided inclusiveness. Let's go to work, Now!. Great initiative by
the way fro Yankuba Njie.Kudos!
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Subject: Website for E-Mail Petition
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Date: Apr 13, 2000
Hi Guys
sorry for the late update, have been kinda busy. Anyways, I have the site
for the e-mail petition almost done and should have it up and running by
tomorrow evening. You can have a sneak peak at it at
http://www.gambia.f2s.com. I'll send an e-mail tomorrow when its up and
functional but I still need the following
1. The letter of protest
2. E-mail addr and list or organisations we are going to send the
petition to (include regular mail addresses too if u have them)
Actually the above 2 items are the only things holding me back.
If you are sending any information to the list that might be useful to me,
please cc: (carbon copy) me in your e-mail (its easier to read the mail)
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Subject: VERY URGENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE READ
We all agree that it is of utmost importance that we act in a swift manner
to help remedy the situation in Gambia in any way we can. So here is a
pamhlet that I made to hand out to Gambians and non Gambians in other to
inform them about the student massacre and how they can help by getting
their names added to the petion, writing letters, or sending donations. I
have included the required E-mail address where they can send their names
for the petition, and the address to send donations to. You can modify it
to suit you. For example, those in other countries other than the US, can
change the address to where donations are to be sent to their designated
person. You can also change my name and phone number to yours, or to that
of the person responsible for collecting donations in your region.
SO PRINT THESE IN THE THOUSANDS PEOPLE, AND LETS MOBILIZE AND ACT. IS TIME
TO PUT OUR ANGER AND FRUSTRATION INTO ACTION.
PAMPHLET:
I am very grateful that you have taken the time to read this. My name is
Sigga Jagne and I am from Gambia/ West Africa. A country that until April
10th, 2000 was peaceful, calm, and full of fun loving and friendly people.
This attitude of its people, made it earn the nickname the "Smiling Coast
of Africa." Gambia is very similar to the Caribbean, full of long, sandy,
white beaches and wonderful sunshine. Actually, it is to most of Europe
what Jamaica is to most Americans. This said and done, below is a petition
written by the Association of Gambian citizens living in Europe and the US)
to the UN (United Nations) and upon reading it, you will gain an
understanding as to why I am sending you this document, and why this
petition was written in the first place. Below the petition, is an E-mail
address to which you can send an E-mail asking that your name be added to
the final petition going to the UN. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO DO SO, FOR THE
LIVES AND LIVELIHOODS OF A PEACEFUL AND FRIENDLY PEOPLE DEPEND ON IT. The
Gambian Association is trying to mobilize the UN to act, before our
beloved, and peaceful country, a country that has not known any of the
familiar unrest known to most of Africa. Also, a URL for one of the web
sites set up for people to learn more about this incident, is given at the
bottom
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Dear Sir/Madam,
A very tragic chapter in the history of our beloved nation, The Gambia,
occurred on the 10th. And 11th. April 2000 when security forces opened fire
and killed 14 and injured at least 28 students including a Red Cross
volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, during an unarmed demonstration
organized by students. The students were protesting the torture and murder
of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, and the rape of
a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a paramillitary officer.
Hundreds of students have since been arrested and distraught parents do not
know whether their children are among the dead or imprisoned.
We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request you and
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to
immediately:
- instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of force against
civilians;
- release all the students currently under detention;
- release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their
relatives for proper burial;
- launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances
surrounding it;
- ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to the
provisions of the law;
- instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint during
demonstrations slated for next week;
- ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape
of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law without
undue delay;
- ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution of The
Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of which The
Gambia is a signatory;
While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter of
matters, we take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and your
organization for your concern.
MY SIXTEEN YEAR OLD BROTHER WAS ONE OF THOSE SHOT, HE WAS SHOT IN THE
STOMACH AND HAS SUSTAINED CRITICAL INJURIES TO HIS INTERNAL ORGANS.
IMPORTANT! (PLEASE SEE NEXT PAGE)
Send an E-mail to: [log in to unmask] and ask to have your name added to the
petition above to be sent to the UN (United Nations).
We have set up a web site where people can go and talk about the current
situation in Gambia (http://come.to/voiceout), it contains articles and
news excerpts on the incident as well. We will set up another web site
soon, that will give a day to day up date of current situation in the
Gambia and the actions that are being taken by the UN, Amnesty
International and other international organizations, as well as the members
of the Association of Gambian Citizens in Europe & the US in their various
countries of residence. I will send out the URL of that web site as soon
as it is launched. Demonstrations have been held in New York, and
Washington and are being planned in London, Germany, Finland, and Sweden.
We are going to pick a date in the future, when demonstrations will be held
at all the above named places on the same day. I will send out that
information as soon as it is available. These demonstrations are done in
conjunction with any organization that wishes to lend their support. We
are also asking for help from any and every person, add your names to the
petitions, go to the web sites to learn about the days that demonstrations
are being held and go lend your support. Justice must be achieved for
these slain children. We have also set up a Victims fund (See address
below) for the injured, for example, there is a 3 year old child lying in
the hospital, next to my brother's bed, with a bullet in his head and
doctors in the Gambia do not have the facilities to perform the required
operation on him. We will use this fund to help attain medical attention
for the critically injured, launch an investigation team to get the real
facts of the incident (in fear of a cover up by the government), set up a
team of lawyers to file a wrongful death lawsuit against the government,
etc.
Send All Donations to: Fund for the Gambian Student Massacre Victims
13830 Castle BLVD, # 204
Silverspring, Maryland 20910
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Hello Katim,
I support your suggestions. I think we should give them a try. If I can
help in any way, I will be happy to do so.
Bakary Sonko
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Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 2:21 AM
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Subject: Additonal suggestions for an Action Plan
Hi folks,
First, I would like to apologize for my long period of silence in the
aftermath of the senseless killing of 14 people, and the wounding of tens of
others, by our very own Gambian security forces. The events of this past
April 10 and 11 are a shame that will haunt us forever. I join the many
people on and off this list, and the world over in condemning these
killings, and expressing my condolences to the bereaved families.
As we've all seen over the past couple of days, there has been an outpouring
of rage never before seen in The Gambia. It is indeed the least many can
do, at least for now, while we gather our strengths again, and prepare for
the battles ahead. I'd like to contribute one or two ideas to already
bulging collection of brilliant efforts underway. But before that, I'd like
to take the opportunity to touch on a few house-keeping issues, as regards
the list.
Earlier in the week, Ambassador Sey in France sent in his perspective on the
killings, and we all are aware of the wrath that brought him. In response,
he requested that I take him off the list, not knowing that I do not spend
my whole day in front of my computer waiting for just such requests.
Unfortunately for him, it was much later that day that I saw his appeals.
Needless to say, I did not make any efforts to unsubscribe Ambassador Sey.
This was for no reason other than the fact that every posting sent out on
Gambia-L includes instructions on how to unsubscribe from the list and view
archives of postings. I saw no reason why Ambassador Sey should have failed
to see those instructions, and had problems following them, if he did see
them.
The second house-keeping issue I'd like to touch on is the request received
from Tombong Saidy regarding insults hurled at him by Madiba Saidy. I will
have to agree with Mr. Saidy on this one. This will then be the second time
(the first was in 1996) that I'm standing up for Mr. Saidy when insulted on
the list. But the issue is not Tombong Saidy, who I've never met in my
life. Rather, it's the principle that EVERYONE on the list deserves to be
treated with dignity, even if the person in question has been shown or known
to be probably undeserving of the dignity. I will say this, and it might
sound counter-intuitive, or even crazy, but folks, if there ever was a good
time to treat President Jammeh and his officials with respect, this is it.
I'll explain shortly, but please assume for a moment that the above
assertion is true. In that case, it would follow that what is expected of
all of us is that we exercise restraint in the words we hurl at President
Jammeh and his officials. While it is entirely up to each of us to decide
what words to trade in private, I would advice that we be as forceful as is
possible, without being insulting or vulgar, in our public dialogs with the
Jammeh government. Besides, I'm of the opinion that if you have to insult
people to make your point, you really have nothing to say.
House-keeping chores aside, I'd now like to contribute a few suggestions to
those that have been sent in about how to react to the killings earlier this
week. At the end of the day, I propose that all efforts should be aimed at
3-word objective: Jammeh Must Go! Folks, these killings are ample evidence
that we are at cross-roads in our nation's history. Either we make a
whole-hearted effort to make sure that President Jammeh's rules ends sooner,
rather than later, or we prepare to deal with what might be even worse
things to come.
Toward this end, and along the lines of suggestions coming in, I would like
to add to the proposed action plan. In essence, my proposals are based on a
CARROT or STICK approach to get rid of the Jammeh government. Here's how:
1. THE CARROT:
It's been a while that I've been thinking about reaching a compromise with
President Jammeh and his government for them to hand-over power, in exchange
for a number of concessions. Briefly, the deal would be along these lines:
i) President Jammeh and his cabinet agrees to resign, and hand-over
power to a National Unity government, comprised of different political
parties, and interest groups
ii) The head of the National Unity Government will agree to step-down
after the Presidential elections next year; and by implication, will not
contest the elections him or herself
iii) In exchange for handing over power, President Jammeh and his
Cabinet will be accorded the following:
a). Immunity from prosecution for any and all crimes committed
while in office
b). A life-time pension, based on their current salaries
iv) The above immunities and pension-plans shall be contingent on:
a). An agreement by President Jammeh, his Cabinet, and past
associates to participate in a truth-and-reconciliation commission to
investigate crimes they allegedly committed
b). An agreement by President Jammeh and his Cabinet to refrain
from committing any further crimes AFTER the ratification of the amnesty
agreement
c). An agreement by President Jammeh and his Cabinet to return
any state monies deemed to have been illegally acquired while in office
d). It's legislation into effect by an Act of the Gambian
Parliament
v) Families of all victims of violent incidents during President Jammeh'
s reign will be given benefits based on the salaries the victims were
drawing, or will have earned had they lived.
The above is a broad outline of a compromise between having to get President
Jammeh out of office as soon as possible, and making sure that it's done in
a manner that will ensure stability and peace. The devil, as the saying
goes, could be in the details, but it should be quite possible to accomplish
this compromise if there's a will to do so. And if for some reason or the
other the compromise route does not work, we'll resort to the stick.
2. THE STICK:
It just might be possible that President Jammeh and/or his Cabinet would not
agree to a compromise by handing over power before their his present term is
up. In that case, we'll use the stick, which in fact will consist of the
following action plan: PLAN, ORGANIZE, and ACT.
i) PLAN
The first step in dealing with President Jammeh if he refuse to a compromise
plan would be to plan on what to do. In many respects, present efforts on
the list will be immensely helpful in this regard. Along those lines, I
would like to suggest the following as contingency plans for action toward
getting Jammeh out of office before his term is up, in the event he refuses
to compromise.
First, the overall premise of the plans would be that the fight is between
President Jammeh's might and bullets, and our rights and pens (or
keyboards). It is a new game-plan in which we set the rules, and not
President Jammeh. In other words, it will be fought on the basis of rules
that he has either no knowledge of, or has chosen to totally ignore. I'm
talking here about decency, respect for human rights, and the rule of law.
And herein is the reason why, earlier, I said that now is the time to show
maximum respect to the Jammeh government. The fact is that the only way we
can build a credible case is when we have shown a level of maturity that the
position we are taking deserves. Thus, we should be careful not to set-back
our cause stoop down to their level and start trading insults with them, or
worse, start insulting them.
Plans for bringing about a speedy end to President Jammeh's rule should
include the following:
a). A global campaign to educate the world about the atrocities and
incompetence of the Jammeh government
b). A global campaign to deny the Jammeh government support from
governments and organizations they currently associate with
c). A campaign to educate Gambians (in The Gambia and abroad; educated
or illiterate in English) about their rights, expectations, and what they
can do about to bring down the Jammeh government by peaceful means
d). Support for the Gambian independent media groups to ensure the
adequacy of their facilities, and a political and legal environment for them
to do their work.
e). Setting up an umbrella organization with autonomous regional and
local branches around the world, and aimed at building and fostering
democracy and freedom in The Gambia.
f). Collaborating with other African and international organizations and
associations to work toward common objectives.
ii) ORGANIZE
The main vehicle toward the above plans will be an umbrella organization
that will be global in form, but with autonomous local and regional
branches. There already exist a number of Gambian organizations around the
world and aimed at different objectives. Furthermore, Dr. Abdoulie Saine
has recently proposed the formation of COFFET (The Coalition for Free and
Fair Elections in The Gambia), to work toward free and fair elections in The
Gambia in 2001. Also, efforts are well underway to coordinate the response
to the killings, and provide help to the needy families. In short, there's
no shortage of effort in trying to mobilize and organize people.
What we now need, I believe, is a formal umbrella organization that will be
purposely created to work toward not only the speedy end of the Jammeh
government, but also to help maintain an atmosphere of democracy, human
rights, and respect for the rule of law in The Gambia. As I indicated
before, the organization will be global, because it will have branches in
all parts of the world with Gambians interested in working toward the
organizations objectives.
The local and regional branches of the organization will be autonomous, in
the sense that they will run their own finances, and be responsible to
coordinating main organizations local activities, and/or initiating their
own programs as long as they are consistent with those of the main
organization. The benefit of having autonomous local branches include
flexibility in running the organizations program, and at the same time
making it easy to build the organizations brand, and name-recognition.
Having an umbrella organization will also be immensely helpful in getting
funds and grant from organizations and associations that fund activities
that the planned organization will engage in. There are a number of groups
and Foundations out there that might be easier to solicit funds from if we
have a formal organization. Furthermore, giving this organization a legal,
non-profit status in many countries will open even more opportunities for
raising funds needed to carry on it's work.
I would further suggest that such an organization have an annual membership
fee that is set in the local currency of the affiliate organizations. In
addition, we can decide a proportion of each local affiliates membership
dues or funds be set-aside for the overall organization toward it's upkeep,
and the implementation of it's programs.
From an organizational perspective, and given the potential logistical
problems of running an organization across time zones, and continents, I
would further suggest that in drafting the charters of both the umbrella
organization, and local affiliates, provision be made for the use of the
Internet communication tools (e-mail, chat, bulletin boards, etc) to
expedite the decision-making process, and enhance the governance of the
organization.
For now, that's about it with regards the organizational framework for a
plan of action to bring about an early end to President Jammeh's government.
And now, suggestions on actions that we can take to bring about our
objectives
iii) ACT
There already have been many suggestions about what can and should be done
to respond to the killings perpetrated by the Gambian security forces.
Alpha Robinson and Co. have done an excellent job of summarizing the
suggestions, and I would not belabor the issue any further. Suffice it is
for me to add a few more items, and perhaps elaborate on those that could
use some more detail.
First, the idea of a Web site is great, and Dr. Amadou Janneh's donation of
a site most welcome. In particular, I was also thinking along the lines of
getting pictures of the victims and putting them on the Web site. May I
also add that the main purpose of the Web site should be to serve as the
official depository of, and destination for information regarding the case
against the Jammeh government. Thus, the Web site should be organized along
the following subject matters:
a). A history of the Jammeh administration
b). Economic facts and figures about the Gambian economy under Jammeh
c). Human Rights and Political Freedom (or lack thereof) under Jammeh
d). Jammeh's Foreign policy
e). Outstanding and/or Pending allegations against the Jammeh
government
I would like to emphasize that the Web site should make maximum use of facts
and figures provided by none other than Jammeh himself, and his officials.
In other words, the best case we can build will be one based on facts and
figures found in the publications and utterances of the Jammeh government.
In this regard, I would read them my version of their Miranda rights: they
have a right to remain silent (or do nothing), because anything they say (or
do) can, and will be used against them.
It is particularly important that we present a historical perspective of the
Jammeh administration's record. This will be especially helpful to build a
case that not only has his government been inept and incompetent, but that
it has been consistently so. Furthermore, the recent killing that so
outrage so many of us, do have precedents, which might or might not have
been related to a persistent tendency of the Jammeh administration toward
the illegal and brutal use of force against it's enemies, real and imagined.
Alpha Robinson has also mentioned the power of putting pictures on the Web
site. As the saying goes, "a picture is worth a thousand words." For this
reason, I suggest we post pictures of ALL those who have died under violent
and/or suspicious circumstances during Jammeh's rule. In addition, we
should include brief biographies of these victims to further drive home the
point that like you and me, they too, had their dreams. And we, as a
nation, failed them miserably.
The Web site should also be an integral part of a global effort to educate
people the world over about the Jammeh administration's record. Toward this
end, the propose umbrella organization will embark on a campaign aimed
making sure that whenever and where ever President Jammeh travels, we would
have sent out advance e-mail messages to government officials,
organizations, and news organizations to pointing them to our Web site, and
alerting them to the kind of person they will be receiving. These e-mail
messages will be followed-up, where possible, by phone calls, and personal
visits by members of our organization in the event we have them on the
ground.
Still on the Web site, I suggest we start trying to put a team together to
build it. Toward this end, I suggest that people volunteer for the
following:
a). A Producer - responsible for the overall content and production of
the site
b). Graphics designers - to design the Umbrella organization's logo, and
Web site templates
c). Webmaster - overall administration and programming (CGI scripts,
HTML, etc.) of the site
d). Editors - Responsible for developing and writing content in
specialist areas (e.g. human rights, economic data and reports, etc.)
e). Researchers -- To work with Editors to research and develop
content; also to ensure that data is valid, current, and relevant.
f). Others - to take on duties as assigned
Besides the Web site, our action plan should include activities geared
toward keeping the heat on the Jammeh administration. Toward this end,
efforts should be made to contact various governments, development agencies,
and other organizations that Jammeh's officials have dealings with. Thus,
efforts should be made to ensure that:
a). as many governments as possible deny Jammeh and his Cabinet members
permits to visit
b). as many organizations as possible stop dealing with the Jammeh
administration, and by refuse them invitations to international meetings
c). no more financial assistance forthcoming to The Gambia unless and
until outstanding allegations of the misappropriation of public funds (e.g.
money from Taiwan, the Nigerian oil deal) are resolved
Our efforts must also be aimed at effecting a campaign of political
education for Gambians. While the Internet might be a wonderful tool for
communicating with those who have access to it, it still does us no good if
we want to reach someone in Sare Gubu Muntaga. In that case, we have to try
some alternate means. Thus, I suggest that we plan on making sure that as
many Gambians as possible have access to information other than what they
hear from official Gambian media. In this regard, I suggest we take a leaf
from the late Ayatollah Khomenei's book. We should seriously consider the
use of cassette tapes to get the word out, if need be. What I have in mind
is a regular publication, in cassette form, of developments of concern to
Gambians. The tapes might include discussions on topical issues, interviews
with political leaders denied access to the media, and educational material
for special interest groups (e.g. women, business people), or different
ethnic groups.
Furthermore, we can also look into the possibility of renting a shortwave
transmitter to broadcast regularly to The Gambia. Remember that Radio Free
Europe was created for a similar purpose, and I think if we setup a proper
non-profit organization dedicated toward the development of democracy in the
Gambia, and indeed West Africa in general, we just might be able to come up
with a grant to have at least weekly broadcasts. For example, World Harvest
Radio (http://www.whr.org) has a transmitter (WHRA - Angel 5) in Maine that
is targeted to Africa and the Middle East (see http://www.whr.org/tech.htm)
You can find their transmitter rental information at
(http://www.whr.org/advert.htm). I'm not saying the WHRI will agree to rent
us their transmitters, but I just wanted to give you an idea about what's
possible, and might well be achievable, if we work toward it.
Another important activity we must NOT neglect is support for Gambian media.
We've all heard of the heroics of George Christensen of Radio 1 FM, and we'
re all grateful to him for his interventions during last Monday's incidents.
Mr. Christensen's experiences, coupled with the killing of Mr. Omar Barrow,
the journalist, and Red Cross/Red Crescent volunteer are ample demonstration
of the risks and hazards they face on a daily basis. For this reason, I
suggest we start thinking about ways and means of helping them out. For
example, I have seen a number of postings from some of them about not being
able to send in their responses or postings because of this or that computer
problem. We should try to work toward helping them with their computer
problems by either helping them get new ones, or functional refurbished
ones. Furthermore, I've been thinking about helping them setup their own
Web sites, but I will have to work on this not only with them, but also with
Quantum who presently provides them some space.
And finally, I would like to say that we should also plan to coordinate and
collaborate with other African and international groups toward common
objectives. If I'm not mistaken, I believe a number of Gambia-L subscribers
are already active in international human rights circles and democracy
movements (e.g. Ndey Jobarteh), and I think they might be able to provide us
some valuable hand-holding. And by the way, I would like to ask Ndey
Jobarteh and Saiks Samateh if we might be allowed to use their slogan "For
Freedom" as the motto of the umbrella organization I am proposing. What do
you think?
I'll leave it that until later. And with up-coming meetings in DC and other
places, I would suggest that we start building a coordinating team to work
with Soffie Ceesay and Alpha Robinson to get the umbrella organization and
other activities off the ground. Please keep the positive dialog flowing,
and God willing, we shall overcome. Best wishes in your endeavors.
Katim
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G-L Members
I was away without access to e-mail but allow me to join you
So late in condeming the brutal and senseless killings of
Our patriotic students,and to express my condolence to the
Family memebers and to all of us Gambians.
I am in support of any actions proposed,though I'm just starting
To read my mails and its hundreds of them.
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WONDERFUL SUGGESTIONS MR KATIM. KUDOS TO A JOB WELL DONE. KEEP IT UP!
George Sarr.
Hi folks,
First, I would like to apologize for my long period of silence in the
aftermath of the senseless killing of 14 people, and the wounding of tens of
others, by our very own Gambian security forces. The events of this past
April 10 and 11 are a shame that will haunt us forever. I join the many
people on and off this list, and the world over in condemning these
killings, and expressing my condolences to the bereaved families.
As we've all seen over the past couple of days, there has been an outpouring
of rage never before seen in The Gambia. It is indeed the least many can
do, at least for now, while we gather our strengths again, and prepare for
the battles ahead. I'd like to contribute one or two ideas to already
bulging collection of brilliant efforts underway. But before that, I'd like
to take the opportunity to touch on a few house-keeping issues, as regards
the list.
Earlier in the week, Ambassador Sey in France sent in his perspective on the
killings, and we all are aware of the wrath that brought him. In response,
he requested that I take him off the list, not knowing that I do not spend
my whole day in front of my computer waiting for just such requests.
Unfortunately for him, it was much later that day that I saw his appeals.
Needless to say, I did not make any efforts to unsubscribe Ambassador Sey.
This was for no reason other than the fact that every posting sent out on
Gambia-L includes instructions on how to unsubscribe from the list and view
archives of postings. I saw no reason why Ambassador Sey should have failed
to see those instructions, and had problems following them, if he did see
them.
The second house-keeping issue I'd like to touch on is the request received
from Tombong Saidy regarding insults hurled at him by Madiba Saidy. I will
have to agree with Mr. Saidy on this one. This will then be the second time
(the first was in 1996) that I'm standing up for Mr. Saidy when insulted on
the list. But the issue is not Tombong Saidy, who I've never met in my
life. Rather, it's the principle that EVERYONE on the list deserves to be
treated with dignity, even if the person in question has been shown or known
to be probably undeserving of the dignity. I will say this, and it might
sound counter-intuitive, or even crazy, but folks, if there ever was a good
time to treat President Jammeh and his officials with respect, this is it.
I'll explain shortly, but please assume for a moment that the above
assertion is true. In that case, it would follow that what is expected of
all of us is that we exercise restraint in the words we hurl at President
Jammeh and his officials. While it is entirely up to each of us to decide
what words to trade in private, I would advice that we be as forceful as is
possible, without being insulting or vulgar, in our public dialogs with the
Jammeh government. Besides, I'm of the opinion that if you have to insult
people to make your point, you really have nothing to say.
House-keeping chores aside, I'd now like to contribute a few suggestions to
those that have been sent in about how to react to the killings earlier this
week. At the end of the day, I propose that all efforts should be aimed at
3-word objective: Jammeh Must Go! Folks, these killings are ample evidence
that we are at cross-roads in our nation's history. Either we make a
whole-hearted effort to make sure that President Jammeh's rules ends sooner,
rather than later, or we prepare to deal with what might be even worse
things to come.
Toward this end, and along the lines of suggestions coming in, I would like
to add to the proposed action plan. In essence, my proposals are based on a
CARROT or STICK approach to get rid of the Jammeh government. Here's how:
1. THE CARROT:
It's been a while that I've been thinking about reaching a compromise with
President Jammeh and his government for them to hand-over power, in exchange
for a number of concessions. Briefly, the deal would be along these lines:
i) President Jammeh and his cabinet agrees to resign, and hand-over
power to a National Unity government, comprised of different political
parties, and interest groups
ii) The head of the National Unity Government will agree to step-down
after the Presidential elections next year; and by implication, will not
contest the elections him or herself
iii) In exchange for handing over power, President Jammeh and his
Cabinet will be accorded the following:
a). Immunity from prosecution for any and all crimes committed
while in office
b). A life-time pension, based on their current salaries
iv) The above immunities and pension-plans shall be contingent on:
a). An agreement by President Jammeh, his Cabinet, and past
associates to participate in a truth-and-reconciliation commission to
investigate crimes they allegedly committed
b). An agreement by President Jammeh and his Cabinet to refrain
from committing any further crimes AFTER the ratification of the amnesty
agreement
c). An agreement by President Jammeh and his Cabinet to return
any state monies deemed to have been illegally acquired while in office
d). It's legislation into effect by an Act of the Gambian
Parliament
v) Families of all victims of violent incidents during President Jammeh'
s reign will be given benefits based on the salaries the victims were
drawing, or will have earned had they lived.
The above is a broad outline of a compromise between having to get President
Jammeh out of office as soon as possible, and making sure that it's done in
a manner that will ensure stability and peace. The devil, as the saying
goes, could be in the details, but it should be quite possible to accomplish
this compromise if there's a will to do so. And if for some reason or the
other the compromise route does not work, we'll resort to the stick.
2. THE STICK:
It just might be possible that President Jammeh and/or his Cabinet would not
agree to a compromise by handing over power before their his present term is
up. In that case, we'll use the stick, which in fact will consist of the
following action plan: PLAN, ORGANIZE, and ACT.
i) PLAN
The first step in dealing with President Jammeh if he refuse to a compromise
plan would be to plan on what to do. In many respects, present efforts on
the list will be immensely helpful in this regard. Along those lines, I
would like to suggest the following as contingency plans for action toward
getting Jammeh out of office before his term is up, in the event he refuses
to compromise.
First, the overall premise of the plans would be that the fight is between
President Jammeh's might and bullets, and our rights and pens (or
keyboards). It is a new game-plan in which we set the rules, and not
President Jammeh. In other words, it will be fought on the basis of rules
that he has either no knowledge of, or has chosen to totally ignore. I'm
talking here about decency, respect for human rights, and the rule of law.
And herein is the reason why, earlier, I said that now is the time to show
maximum respect to the Jammeh government. The fact is that the only way we
can build a credible case is when we have shown a level of maturity that the
position we are taking deserves. Thus, we should be careful not to set-back
our cause stoop down to their level and start trading insults with them, or
worse, start insulting them.
Plans for bringing about a speedy end to President Jammeh's rule should
include the following:
a). A global campaign to educate the world about the atrocities and
incompetence of the Jammeh government
b). A global campaign to deny the Jammeh government support from
governments and organizations they currently associate with
c). A campaign to educate Gambians (in The Gambia and abroad; educated
or illiterate in English) about their rights, expectations, and what they
can do about to bring down the Jammeh government by peaceful means
d). Support for the Gambian independent media groups to ensure the
adequacy of their facilities, and a political and legal environment for them
to do their work.
e). Setting up an umbrella organization with autonomous regional and
local branches around the world, and aimed at building and fostering
democracy and freedom in The Gambia.
f). Collaborating with other African and international organizations and
associations to work toward common objectives.
ii) ORGANIZE
The main vehicle toward the above plans will be an umbrella organization
that will be global in form, but with autonomous local and regional
branches. There already exist a number of Gambian organizations around the
world and aimed at different objectives. Furthermore, Dr. Abdoulie Saine
has recently proposed the formation of COFFET (The Coalition for Free and
Fair Elections in The Gambia), to work toward free and fair elections in The
Gambia in 2001. Also, efforts are well underway to coordinate the response
to the killings, and provide help to the needy families. In short, there's
no shortage of effort in trying to mobilize and organize people.
What we now need, I believe, is a formal umbrella organization that will be
purposely created to work toward not only the speedy end of the Jammeh
government, but also to help maintain an atmosphere of democracy, human
rights, and respect for the rule of law in The Gambia. As I indicated
before, the organization will be global, because it will have branches in
all parts of the world with Gambians interested in working toward the
organizations objectives.
The local and regional branches of the organization will be autonomous, in
the sense that they will run their own finances, and be responsible to
coordinating main organizations local activities, and/or initiating their
own programs as long as they are consistent with those of the main
organization. The benefit of having autonomous local branches include
flexibility in running the organizations program, and at the same time
making it easy to build the organizations brand, and name-recognition.
Having an umbrella organization will also be immensely helpful in getting
funds and grant from organizations and associations that fund activities
that the planned organization will engage in. There are a number of groups
and Foundations out there that might be easier to solicit funds from if we
have a formal organization. Furthermore, giving this organization a legal,
non-profit status in many countries will open even more opportunities for
raising funds needed to carry on it's work.
I would further suggest that such an organization have an annual membership
fee that is set in the local currency of the affiliate organizations. In
addition, we can decide a proportion of each local affiliates membership
dues or funds be set-aside for the overall organization toward it's upkeep,
and the implementation of it's programs.
>From an organizational perspective, and given the potential logistical
problems of running an organization across time zones, and continents, I
would further suggest that in drafting the charters of both the umbrella
organization, and local affiliates, provision be made for the use of the
Internet communication tools (e-mail, chat, bulletin boards, etc) to
expedite the decision-making process, and enhance the governance of the
organization.
For now, that's about it with regards the organizational framework for a
plan of action to bring about an early end to President Jammeh's government.
And now, suggestions on actions that we can take to bring about our
objectives
iii) ACT
There already have been many suggestions about what can and should be done
to respond to the killings perpetrated by the Gambian security forces.
Alpha Robinson and Co. have done an excellent job of summarizing the
suggestions, and I would not belabor the issue any further. Suffice it is
for me to add a few more items, and perhaps elaborate on those that could
use some more detail.
First, the idea of a Web site is great, and Dr. Amadou Janneh's donation of
a site most welcome. In particular, I was also thinking along the lines of
getting pictures of the victims and putting them on the Web site. May I
also add that the main purpose of the Web site should be to serve as the
official depository of, and destination for information regarding the case
against the Jammeh government. Thus, the Web site should be organized along
the following subject matters:
a). A history of the Jammeh administration
b). Economic facts and figures about the Gambian economy under Jammeh
c). Human Rights and Political Freedom (or lack thereof) under Jammeh
d). Jammeh's Foreign policy
e). Outstanding and/or Pending allegations against the Jammeh
government
I would like to emphasize that the Web site should make maximum use of facts
and figures provided by none other than Jammeh himself, and his officials.
In other words, the best case we can build will be one based on facts and
figures found in the publications and utterances of the Jammeh government.
In this regard, I would read them my version of their Miranda rights: they
have a right to remain silent (or do nothing), because anything they say (or
do) can, and will be used against them.
It is particularly important that we present a historical perspective of the
Jammeh administration's record. This will be especially helpful to build a
case that not only has his government been inept and incompetent, but that
it has been consistently so. Furthermore, the recent killing that so
outrage so many of us, do have precedents, which might or might not have
been related to a persistent tendency of the Jammeh administration toward
the illegal and brutal use of force against it's enemies, real and imagined.
Alpha Robinson has also mentioned the power of putting pictures on the Web
site. As the saying goes, "a picture is worth a thousand words." For this
reason, I suggest we post pictures of ALL those who have died under violent
and/or suspicious circumstances during Jammeh's rule. In addition, we
should include brief biographies of these victims to further drive home the
point that like you and me, they too, had their dreams. And we, as a
nation, failed them miserably.
The Web site should also be an integral part of a global effort to educate
people the world over about the Jammeh administration's record. Toward this
end, the propose umbrella organization will embark on a campaign aimed
making sure that whenever and where ever President Jammeh travels, we would
have sent out advance e-mail messages to government officials,
organizations, and news organizations to pointing them to our Web site, and
alerting them to the kind of person they will be receiving. These e-mail
messages will be followed-up, where possible, by phone calls, and personal
visits by members of our organization in the event we have them on the
ground.
Still on the Web site, I suggest we start trying to put a team together to
build it. Toward this end, I suggest that people volunteer for the
following:
a). A Producer - responsible for the overall content and production of
the site
b). Graphics designers - to design the Umbrella organization's logo, and
Web site templates
c). Webmaster - overall administration and programming (CGI scripts,
HTML, etc.) of the site
d). Editors - Responsible for developing and writing content in
specialist areas (e.g. human rights, economic data and reports, etc.)
e). Researchers -- To work with Editors to research and develop
content; also to ensure that data is valid, current, and relevant.
f). Others - to take on duties as assigned
Besides the Web site, our action plan should include activities geared
toward keeping the heat on the Jammeh administration. Toward this end,
efforts should be made to contact various governments, development agencies,
and other organizations that Jammeh's officials have dealings with. Thus,
efforts should be made to ensure that:
a). as many governments as possible deny Jammeh and his Cabinet members
permits to visit
b). as many organizations as possible stop dealing with the Jammeh
administration, and by refuse them invitations to international meetings
c). no more financial assistance forthcoming to The Gambia unless and
until outstanding allegations of the misappropriation of public funds (e.g.
money from Taiwan, the Nigerian oil deal) are resolved
Our efforts must also be aimed at effecting a campaign of political
education for Gambians. While the Internet might be a wonderful tool for
communicating with those who have access to it, it still does us no good if
we want to reach someone in Sare Gubu Muntaga. In that case, we have to try
some alternate means. Thus, I suggest that we plan on making sure that as
many Gambians as possible have access to information other than what they
hear from official Gambian media. In this regard, I suggest we take a leaf
from the late Ayatollah Khomenei's book. We should seriously consider the
use of cassette tapes to get the word out, if need be. What I have in mind
is a regular publication, in cassette form, of developments of concern to
Gambians. The tapes might include discussions on topical issues, interviews
with political leaders denied access to the media, and educational material
for special interest groups (e.g. women, business people), or different
ethnic groups.
Furthermore, we can also look into the possibility of renting a shortwave
transmitter to broadcast regularly to The Gambia. Remember that Radio Free
Europe was created for a similar purpose, and I think if we setup a proper
non-profit organization dedicated toward the development of democracy in the
Gambia, and indeed West Africa in general, we just might be able to come up
with a grant to have at least weekly broadcasts. For example, World Harvest
Radio (http://www.whr.org) has a transmitter (WHRA - Angel 5) in Maine that
is targeted to Africa and the Middle East (see http://www.whr.org/tech.htm)
You can find their transmitter rental information at
(http://www.whr.org/advert.htm). I'm not saying the WHRI will agree to rent
us their transmitters, but I just wanted to give you an idea about what's
possible, and might well be achievable, if we work toward it.
Another important activity we must NOT neglect is support for Gambian media.
We've all heard of the heroics of George Christensen of Radio 1 FM, and we'
re all grateful to him for his interventions during last Monday's incidents.
Mr. Christensen's experiences, coupled with the killing of Mr. Omar Barrow,
the journalist, and Red Cross/Red Crescent volunteer are ample demonstration
of the risks and hazards they face on a daily basis. For this reason, I
suggest we start thinking about ways and means of helping them out. For
example, I have seen a number of postings from some of them about not being
able to send in their responses or postings because of this or that computer
problem. We should try to work toward helping them with their computer
problems by either helping them get new ones, or functional refurbished
ones. Furthermore, I've been thinking about helping them setup their own
Web sites, but I will have to work on this not only with them, but also with
Quantum who presently provides them some space.
And finally, I would like to say that we should also plan to coordinate and
collaborate with other African and international groups toward common
objectives. If I'm not mistaken, I believe a number of Gambia-L subscribers
are already active in international human rights circles and democracy
movements (e.g. Ndey Jobarteh), and I think they might be able to provide us
some valuable hand-holding. And by the way, I would like to ask Ndey
Jobarteh and Saiks Samateh if we might be allowed to use their slogan "For
Freedom" as the motto of the umbrella organization I am proposing. What do
you think?
I'll leave it that until later. And with up-coming meetings in DC and other
places, I would suggest that we start building a coordinating team to work
with Soffie Ceesay and Alpha Robinson to get the umbrella organization and
other activities off the ground. Please keep the positive dialog flowing,
and God willing, we shall overcome. Best wishes in your endeavors.
Katim
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:08:25 +0100
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Jabou,
You have said it all. Those who associate themselves with the devil must
pay the price!
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Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 2:56 PM
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> Dear Edi,
>
> I am sure you do not want to go down in history and our memories as the
one
> who came to the rescue of this regime even as the dead bodies of our kids
are
> lying all over the place, and the whereabouts of some of the arrested are
not
> known. I appeal to you to think very clearly and discontinue this
dialogue.
> We are in shambles over the murder and potential murder of even more of
our
> citizens, and all you can concentrate on is to go on this endless tirade
to
> defend Tombong Saidy and officials of this regime? Are you at all
concerned
> about what is going on, and who is responsible? The President and all
serving
> under him are responsible because they are part of this regime. The only
way
> they cannot be held responsible is if they had walked away from being
> associated in any way with this regime.Please stop this senseless defense
for
> your own sake.
>
> Jabou Joh
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Hamjatta
You are right. However, lets forget this topis before they succeed in
diverting our attentions.
Ziz.
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> Hey Mr Edi or whatever you chose to call yourself,
> Continue with your prattle which you are very much entitled to but
save
> us your absurdities. Just continue to make a fumbling fool of your self.
> Please remember that this is a time of mourning and the least you could do
> for yourself is to respect the memory of these slain school kids. Anything
> short of that, would perversion of the highest order. Just remember that
> whilst you continue with your kindergarten games.
> Hamjatta
>
> hkanteh
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I am getting more and more angry when reading all the mails about this terrible massacre of school children. How can the leaders in the Gambia stand up and defend it?? There is nothing, nothing in the world that these children could have done that justifies to kill them! There is never anything that can justify the murder of children, never, never!!!
I am really feeling sorry for everybody that lost a child or a sister or brother in this massacre.
I agree with you that there has been a great silence in the media, here in Sweden I have heard nothing about it. Has somebody in Sweden read about it in any newspaper or seen anything about it in TV?
Monica Ceesay
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I think this is a very valid point, Ylva
On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Malanding S. Jaiteh wrote:
> Just in case the final decision has not been made regarding the name of the
> web site. I will
> suggest
>
> FreeGambia.com. or GambiaFree.com
>
> This is to ensure that the name become relevant even after this regime is
> gone.
>
>
> Malanding
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dr. Amadou S. Janneh" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Additonal suggestions for an Action Plan
>
>
> > Gambia-l:
> >
> > JammehMustGo.com could be our domain name as suggested earlier. And
> Katim has made excellent suggestions in terms of areas for volunteers;
> content; etc. Let's volunteer now to get things moving.
> >
> > I am volunteering as an editor or researcher and I nominate Katim to
> coordinate the effort/project.
> >
> > Amadou Scattred Janneh
> >
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:41:46 +0100
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Sigga,
I will print and make copies this. I shall hand them out in Colleges,
Mosque and Churches.
Thanks
A.A.Drammeh
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Subject: VERY URGENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE READ
> We all agree that it is of utmost importance that we act in a swift manner
> to help remedy the situation in Gambia in any way we can. So here is a
> pamhlet that I made to hand out to Gambians and non Gambians in other to
> inform them about the student massacre and how they can help by getting
> their names added to the petion, writing letters, or sending donations. I
> have included the required E-mail address where they can send their names
> for the petition, and the address to send donations to. You can modify it
> to suit you. For example, those in other countries other than the US, can
> change the address to where donations are to be sent to their designated
> person. You can also change my name and phone number to yours, or to that
> of the person responsible for collecting donations in your region.
>
> SO PRINT THESE IN THE THOUSANDS PEOPLE, AND LETS MOBILIZE AND ACT. IS
TIME
> TO PUT OUR ANGER AND FRUSTRATION INTO ACTION.
>
>
>
> PAMPHLET:
>
> I am very grateful that you have taken the time to read this. My name is
> Sigga Jagne and I am from Gambia/ West Africa. A country that until April
> 10th, 2000 was peaceful, calm, and full of fun loving and friendly people.
> This attitude of its people, made it earn the nickname the "Smiling Coast
> of Africa." Gambia is very similar to the Caribbean, full of long, sandy,
> white beaches and wonderful sunshine. Actually, it is to most of Europe
> what Jamaica is to most Americans. This said and done, below is a petition
> written by the Association of Gambian citizens living in Europe and the
US)
> to the UN (United Nations) and upon reading it, you will gain an
> understanding as to why I am sending you this document, and why this
> petition was written in the first place. Below the petition, is an E-mail
> address to which you can send an E-mail asking that your name be added to
> the final petition going to the UN. PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO DO SO, FOR
THE
> LIVES AND LIVELIHOODS OF A PEACEFUL AND FRIENDLY PEOPLE DEPEND ON IT. The
> Gambian Association is trying to mobilize the UN to act, before our
> beloved, and peaceful country, a country that has not known any of the
> familiar unrest known to most of Africa. Also, a URL for one of the web
> sites set up for people to learn more about this incident, is given at the
> bottom
>
>
> TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
>
>
> Dear Sir/Madam,
> A very tragic chapter in the history of our beloved nation, The Gambia,
> occurred on the 10th. And 11th. April 2000 when security forces opened
fire
> and killed 14 and injured at least 28 students including a Red Cross
> volunteer and journalist, Omar Barrow, during an unarmed demonstration
> organized by students. The students were protesting the torture and murder
> of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, and the rape
of
> a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a paramillitary officer.
> Hundreds of students have since been arrested and distraught parents do
not
> know whether their children are among the dead or imprisoned.
> We the undersigned, as concerned citizens, respectfully request you and
> your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to
> immediately:
> - instruct the security forces to halt all excessive use of force against
> civilians;
> - release all the students currently under detention;
> - release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their
> relatives for proper burial;
> - launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances
> surrounding it;
> - ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force
> resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to the
> provisions of the law;
> - instruct the security forces to exercise maximum restraint during
> demonstrations slated for next week;
> - ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the
rape
> of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law without
> undue delay;
> - ensure that all security personnel abide by the Constitution of The
> Republic of The Gambia and all international laws and treaties of which
The
> Gambia is a signatory;
> While awaiting your kind co-operation in this most urgent of matter of
> matters, we take the opportunity to sincerely thank you and your
> organization for your concern.
> MY SIXTEEN YEAR OLD BROTHER WAS ONE OF THOSE SHOT, HE WAS SHOT IN THE
> STOMACH AND HAS SUSTAINED CRITICAL INJURIES TO HIS INTERNAL ORGANS.
>
> IMPORTANT! (PLEASE SEE NEXT PAGE)
> Send an E-mail to: [log in to unmask] and ask to have your name added to
the
> petition above to be sent to the UN (United Nations).
>
> We have set up a web site where people can go and talk about the current
> situation in Gambia (http://come.to/voiceout), it contains articles and
> news excerpts on the incident as well. We will set up another web site
> soon, that will give a day to day up date of current situation in the
> Gambia and the actions that are being taken by the UN, Amnesty
> International and other international organizations, as well as the
members
> of the Association of Gambian Citizens in Europe & the US in their various
> countries of residence. I will send out the URL of that web site as
soon
> as it is launched. Demonstrations have been held in New York, and
> Washington and are being planned in London, Germany, Finland, and Sweden.
> We are going to pick a date in the future, when demonstrations will be
held
> at all the above named places on the same day. I will send out that
> information as soon as it is available. These demonstrations are done in
> conjunction with any organization that wishes to lend their support. We
> are also asking for help from any and every person, add your names to the
> petitions, go to the web sites to learn about the days that demonstrations
> are being held and go lend your support. Justice must be achieved for
> these slain children. We have also set up a Victims fund (See address
> below) for the injured, for example, there is a 3 year old child lying in
> the hospital, next to my brother's bed, with a bullet in his head and
> doctors in the Gambia do not have the facilities to perform the required
> operation on him. We will use this fund to help attain medical attention
> for the critically injured, launch an investigation team to get the real
> facts of the incident (in fear of a cover up by the government), set up a
> team of lawyers to file a wrongful death lawsuit against the government,
> etc.
>
> Send All Donations to: Fund for the Gambian Student Massacre
Victims
> 13830 Castle BLVD, # 204
> Silverspring, Maryland 20910
>
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Subject: Re: [Government busy denying events of bloody Monday]
Abdul,
I am just wondering if some of these minister are very much conscious of the
fact that they are dealing with human begins who have brains to think
.Denying
that the paramilitary shot and killed people is the most criminal thing one
can do and say at this moment.This people will never repent,the aftermath of
the shooting was no moment of healing,the unnessary arrest and detention of
young people was only increasing the tension and a proof to that.Mr Jallow
should appeal to the security forces to stop harassing ordinary Gambians and
the interior minister should go and tell his funny stories to those people
who
have no brains to think.The presence of armed military men in almost every
street corner in Banjul,Serre Kunda etc testify to the fact that there are
no
healing process going on,they will shoot when ever they feel it is find to
do
so,if not they would not be loitering in our streets in arms,we have our
little ones to explain to,that using violent methods to suppress opinion or
people has never been a successful alternative.
It is also my opinion that the student demonstration was not only about
student affairs,it was also partly about the conditions of the
country.Talking
to the students who were taking part in the demonstration one will find out
that their concern for the state of affairs in the country was also a
motivating factors,a great number of youths who have finished their
education
have no jobs,there are a great number of students who are not going to
school
because their parents are not able to afford their school fees.It was not
even
an accident to hear the students lament on the situation of our poor farmers
who are still not able to sell their ground-nuts and we have a president who
spend hardly a week in the country without preparing for another trip
abroad
and now the people are asking the question who owns the aircraft with which
he
always travel with,is it the president himself or the Gambia government.How
are we able to afford such when we are not able to buy the ground nuts of
the
farmers.The students are conscious of all these situation.It was also no
accident,when people standing on the side line openly expressed their
sympathy
to the rioting students.The interior minister was hiding in a dark room,he
was
not there to face the students,if he was there then there would have not
been
any doubt in his mind that it was the students who were demonstrating and
not
bandits.Such political propaganda are no new thing,what has proof ,again and
again,to be a dangerous political play,is to downplay the concern and
worries
of the people.The FM sude debate was a right thing to do,it is not only the
government who have the right to express her opinion in the mass media,the
people also have the right to do so in a democratic country.The Gambian
people
know this government very well,whiles this programme was going on people
were
already predicting that the government will react against this programme,and
they did.What is more interesting is that,the people knowing this,and the
implications involved,were announcing their names and addresses and some
even
travel to the radio station since they were not able to get through the
phones just to speak out their minds.The very fact that the government
reacted
to this programme show the undemocratic nature of our country.And to think
that a talk of "six Feet Deep"will stop the people and inject fear in them
is
not a good thaught from a sound mind,when a president talk of "six Feet
Deep",it was no accident to see a young school girl waving her banner saying
that they are prepared to die to defend the truth,and they died,who have
blood
in his/her hands,the students or those who alway threaten to kill ?
For Freedom
Saiks
for freedom
saiks
Culled from GRTS News,
"The government of the Gambia has called a press conference yesterday for
what its spokesman Mr. Sarjo Jallow said was to appeal to all Gambians to
help guide the healing process following fatal students riots on Monday and
Tuesday. The press conference took place at the Interior Department in
Banjul, and attended by about half of the cabinet, including senior security
officers. The government spokesman Mr. Jallow, who is also the Information
Secretary, said they are in touch with President Yaya Jammeh, whom he said
is expected back in Banjul from Cuba as soon as possible. Mr. Jallow said
the president and the cabinet are concerned about incidents of the last few
days, and are committted to see justice done. But he also appealed to the
public to exercise patience and allow investigations into the riots to
conclude. Meanwhile. the Health Secretary Abdoulie Sallah said 20 people are
still receiving treatment at the RVH. He said nine dead bodies have been
identified, but there still remains two bodies, one of which is a ten-year
old child. The other one is a young man. Mr. Sallah said a post-motem on
the bodies are being carried out by pathologists, and they will produce
their report by next week.
At the same press conference, the Interior Secretary Ousman Badgie has
again stated that gun shootings in the riots on Monday were fired by
criminals who attacked police stations to get arms. He said the information
they have is that during the chaos some convicts from police stations in
Kotu, Bunding and Serre Kunda ransacked these stations, which were then
attacked by ex-prisoners from Mile Two central prisons. Mr. Badgie pointed
out that they now have two people in custudy, whom he said attacked the
armoury of Serre Kunda police and took away arms. He said the two have in
fact revealed eight other names, who also belong to the gang, and are all
said to be ex-convicts. Mr. Badgie's comments corroborate those of the Vice
President Isatou Njie Saidy, who said on Wednesday that shooting come from
within the demonstrators, thus exonerating the security forces of any firing
of life bullets. Mr. Badgie also denied that there are any students beaten
in police stations or at GTTI. The Interior Secretary has also condemned the
phone-in programmes that Radio One FM, and Sud FM Banjul conducted in the
wake of the riots. He said they are not encouraging, and could create an
upheaval. Mr. Badgie said investigations are going on into facts of the
riots, but he dismissed a call from a jouirnalist that outside independent
police be invited to carry out the investigations. He said the Gambia is a
sovereign state, and it has a competent and capable police force to do that
on its own.
Also speaking at the press conference the Justice Secretary Pap Cheyassin
Secka said an inquiry will be carried out into the events of the last few
days, and that all offenders will face the law. He also revealed that the
case of Ebrima Barry, the schoolboy who died in Brikama after allegedly
been beaten by fire service officers, will be filed next week. He said his
department will appoint a public prosecutor, and will foot the bills
itself, but they would not interfere with the proceedings. He also said
members of the public are invited to suggest names of lawyers, either at
home or abroad, who can conduct the prosecution. In the case of the raped
school girl from Brikama-ba, Binta Manneh, Mr. Secka said his office faces
the difficulty of identifying the alleged rapist, and called on the general
public to help in the identification of the alleged rapist. A few weeks ago
the police lined up its forces and asked Binta to identify who raped her,
but she could not pin-point anyone. The Justice secretary also pointed out
that students have a right to demonstrate under the constitution of the
country, but he said that right is not absolute. He said students should
have informed the relevant authorities about it, who would have to decide
when and where it should be held. Mr. Secka said pathologists are examining
bodies, and by next week they would be ready to establish the cause of the
injuries and deaths.
The Education secretary Ann Therese Ndong Jatta has also spoken in favour of
the actions of the security forces to put down demonstrations on Monday, on
the grounds that the government had the right to maintain law and order and
stability. Speaking at a government organised press conference yesterday,
she said the students never consulted her office about what they intended to
do on Monday. She said their move was clandestine, which was lately detected
by the intelligence service. She noted that the chaos could have been
avoided if students had contacted the relevant authorities."
A.Drammeh.
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:01:24 +0100
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Saiks,
I still cannot understand why all the so call public officials are busy
trying to play
down the facts, when they know the people do not believe them. As for Badgie
his
post is partly vacant that is why he is working hard on more lies to recover
it. He surely
knows he is the scapegoat to be. If GRTS will not tell the truth to people
who pay for their existence, sorry Badgie,
the FM stations have to step in.
Ooops!!!! let none be surprise when the APRC national assembly members take
their stand.
They will again show 'Electorate' Jammeh that his 'Vote' put them there!
A.Drammeh.
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From: "saiks samateh" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "abdul aziz drammeh" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Government busy denying events of bloody Monday]
Abdul,
I am just wondering if some of these minister are very much conscious of the
fact that they are dealing with human begins who have brains to think
.Denying
that the paramilitary shot and killed people is the most criminal thing one
can do and say at this moment.This people will never repent,the aftermath of
the shooting was no moment of healing,the unnessary arrest and detention of
young people was only increasing the tension and a proof to that.Mr Jallow
should appeal to the security forces to stop harassing ordinary Gambians and
the interior minister should go and tell his funny stories to those people
who
have no brains to think.The presence of armed military men in almost every
street corner in Banjul,Serre Kunda etc testify to the fact that there are
no
healing process going on,they will shoot when ever they feel it is find to
do
so,if not they would not be loitering in our streets in arms,we have our
little ones to explain to,that using violent methods to suppress opinion or
people has never been a successful alternative.
It is also my opinion that the student demonstration was not only about
student affairs,it was also partly about the conditions of the
country.Talking
to the students who were taking part in the demonstration one will find out
that their concern for the state of affairs in the country was also a
motivating factors,a great number of youths who have finished their
education
have no jobs,there are a great number of students who are not going to
school
because their parents are not able to afford their school fees.It was not
even
an accident to hear the students lament on the situation of our poor farmers
who are still not able to sell their ground-nuts and we have a president who
spend hardly a week in the country without preparing for another trip
abroad
and now the people are asking the question who owns the aircraft with which
he
always travel with,is it the president himself or the Gambia government.How
are we able to afford such when we are not able to buy the ground nuts of
the
farmers.The students are conscious of all these situation.It was also no
accident,when people standing on the side line openly expressed their
sympathy
to the rioting students.The interior minister was hiding in a dark room,he
was
not there to face the students,if he was there then there would have not
been
any doubt in his mind that it was the students who were demonstrating and
not
bandits.Such political propaganda are no new thing,what has proof ,again and
again,to be a dangerous political play,is to downplay the concern and
worries
of the people.The FM sude debate was a right thing to do,it is not only the
government who have the right to express her opinion in the mass media,the
people also have the right to do so in a democratic country.The Gambian
people
know this government very well,whiles this programme was going on people
were
already predicting that the government will react against this programme,and
they did.What is more interesting is that,the people knowing this,and the
implications involved,were announcing their names and addresses and some
even
travel to the radio station since they were not able to get through the
phones just to speak out their minds.The very fact that the government
reacted
to this programme show the undemocratic nature of our country.And to think
that a talk of "six Feet Deep"will stop the people and inject fear in them
is
not a good thaught from a sound mind,when a president talk of "six Feet
Deep",it was no accident to see a young school girl waving her banner saying
that they are prepared to die to defend the truth,and they died,who have
blood
in his/her hands,the students or those who alway threaten to kill ?
For Freedom
Saiks
for freedom
saiks
Culled from GRTS News,
"The government of the Gambia has called a press conference yesterday for
what its spokesman Mr. Sarjo Jallow said was to appeal to all Gambians to
help guide the healing process following fatal students riots on Monday and
Tuesday. The press conference took place at the Interior Department in
Banjul, and attended by about half of the cabinet, including senior security
officers. The government spokesman Mr. Jallow, who is also the Information
Secretary, said they are in touch with President Yaya Jammeh, whom he said
is expected back in Banjul from Cuba as soon as possible. Mr. Jallow said
the president and the cabinet are concerned about incidents of the last few
days, and are committted to see justice done. But he also appealed to the
public to exercise patience and allow investigations into the riots to
conclude. Meanwhile. the Health Secretary Abdoulie Sallah said 20 people are
still receiving treatment at the RVH. He said nine dead bodies have been
identified, but there still remains two bodies, one of which is a ten-year
old child. The other one is a young man. Mr. Sallah said a post-motem on
the bodies are being carried out by pathologists, and they will produce
their report by next week.
At the same press conference, the Interior Secretary Ousman Badgie has
again stated that gun shootings in the riots on Monday were fired by
criminals who attacked police stations to get arms. He said the information
they have is that during the chaos some convicts from police stations in
Kotu, Bunding and Serre Kunda ransacked these stations, which were then
attacked by ex-prisoners from Mile Two central prisons. Mr. Badgie pointed
out that they now have two people in custudy, whom he said attacked the
armoury of Serre Kunda police and took away arms. He said the two have in
fact revealed eight other names, who also belong to the gang, and are all
said to be ex-convicts. Mr. Badgie's comments corroborate those of the Vice
President Isatou Njie Saidy, who said on Wednesday that shooting come from
within the demonstrators, thus exonerating the security forces of any firing
of life bullets. Mr. Badgie also denied that there are any students beaten
in police stations or at GTTI. The Interior Secretary has also condemned the
phone-in programmes that Radio One FM, and Sud FM Banjul conducted in the
wake of the riots. He said they are not encouraging, and could create an
upheaval. Mr. Badgie said investigations are going on into facts of the
riots, but he dismissed a call from a jouirnalist that outside independent
police be invited to carry out the investigations. He said the Gambia is a
sovereign state, and it has a competent and capable police force to do that
on its own.
Also speaking at the press conference the Justice Secretary Pap Cheyassin
Secka said an inquiry will be carried out into the events of the last few
days, and that all offenders will face the law. He also revealed that the
case of Ebrima Barry, the schoolboy who died in Brikama after allegedly
been beaten by fire service officers, will be filed next week. He said his
department will appoint a public prosecutor, and will foot the bills
itself, but they would not interfere with the proceedings. He also said
members of the public are invited to suggest names of lawyers, either at
home or abroad, who can conduct the prosecution. In the case of the raped
school girl from Brikama-ba, Binta Manneh, Mr. Secka said his office faces
the difficulty of identifying the alleged rapist, and called on the general
public to help in the identification of the alleged rapist. A few weeks ago
the police lined up its forces and asked Binta to identify who raped her,
but she could not pin-point anyone. The Justice secretary also pointed out
that students have a right to demonstrate under the constitution of the
country, but he said that right is not absolute. He said students should
have informed the relevant authorities about it, who would have to decide
when and where it should be held. Mr. Secka said pathologists are examining
bodies, and by next week they would be ready to establish the cause of the
injuries and deaths.
The Education secretary Ann Therese Ndong Jatta has also spoken in favour of
the actions of the security forces to put down demonstrations on Monday, on
the grounds that the government had the right to maintain law and order and
stability. Speaking at a government organised press conference yesterday,
she said the students never consulted her office about what they intended to
do on Monday. She said their move was clandestine, which was lately detected
by the intelligence service. She noted that the chaos could have been
avoided if students had contacted the relevant authorities."
A.Drammeh.
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<html><head><meta Name='keywords' Content='commtouch, pronto, mail, free email, free, branded, web based, free web based email, communications, internet, software, advertising banners, e-mail, free software'></head><body ><div align='left'><font ><blockquote><blockquote><TT>Culled from the Observer:<BR>
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GambiaNet 7 days news bulletin co-ordinator hereby apologizes to <BR>
Lawyer Mary A. Samba-Christensen on the article concerning Students <BR>
Riots (Tuesday April 11th). <BR>
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We have found out that Mrs. Samba-Christensen never spoke to the <BR>
reporter who filed in the said report. We hereby withdraw the <BR>
statements attributed to Mrs. Samba-Christensen as well as sincerely <BR>
apologise/regret any embarrassment..... <BR>
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I therefore, take this opportunity to apologize to Mary Abdoulie <BR>
Samba-Christensen regarding my comments after reading the fabricated <BR>
quote by the Observer Tabloid. Per the Observer, Ms. Christensen did <BR>
not talk to any of their reporters and I stand corrected. I <BR>
henceforth, retract my statements and I am sorry for any heart ache <BR>
my comments my have caused her. <BR>
<BR>
I am also convinced that the Observer is a tabloid newspaper and does <BR>
not have any journalistic credibility or integrity. I hope others <BR>
learn from my situation.<BR>
<BR>
Dagmar, if it's ok with, I was wondering whether you can provide me <BR>
with Mary's number to extend an audible apology as well.<BR>
<BR>
Chi Jaama<BR>
<BR>
Joe Sambou <BR>
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Hello all -
We have secured a conference room for tomorrow for a meeting on the
situation back home. The meeting will be at 3:00p.m., to be held at the
Takoma Park Municipal Building located on Maple Avenue, next to the Takoma
Park Library (junction of Philadelphia Avenue and Maple Avenue). Please
pass the word around. Several issues will be discussed and a POA put
together for our next move.
It is crucial that all who can attend, do so. If you have any questions,
please call 301/681-1013, 301/890-4704.
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Don't know about the news coverage in Sweden.
Here in Norway the Internet edition of Aftenposten had a short story Monday night.
That is all I have seen about the Gambia in the norwegian press this week.
Aftenposten - in norwegian only:
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/d134596.htm
Morro Camara
Monica Ceesay wrote:
> ...a great silence in the media, here in Sweden I have heard nothing about it. Has somebody in Sweden read about it in any newspaper or seen anything about it in TV?
>
> Monica Ceesay
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APOLOGY TO LAWYER MARY A. SAMBA-CHRISTENSEN
GambiaNet 7 days news bulletin co-ordinator hereby
apologises to Lawyer Mary A. Samba-Christensen on the
article concerning Students Riots (Tuesday April 11th).
We have found out that Mrs. Samba-Christensen never
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Astrid, while my apology still holds, its is important to note that this apology is from the website that published the excerpt from the Observer and not an apology from the newspaper itself.
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Freetown - This weekend is the turn of young players in the African continent to demonstrate their skills in soccer when the U-17 Nations Cup preliminary round first leg matches get underway in 14 countries. Among the 14 countries is Sierra Leone whose junior national team, Sierra Stars are scheduled to battle with their Gambian counterpart, the Young Scorpions.
The Sierra Stars-Young Scorpion's encounter is scheduled for this afternoon at the national stadium. The match is expected to be a thrilling and exciting one because it will be highly contested. Both teams are well prepared to face each other.
Sierra Stars started active training more than a month ago. They played series of friendly matches against local division clubs and Leone stars and they won many. They only had a draw with Leones Stars. Their performances in all the friendly matches were convincing. Thanks to the technical crew of Nahim Khadi, John Ajina Sesay, Joseph Toby and Lyndon Thomas.
Coach Nahim Khadi has said that he is satisfied with his boys performance and hope they will beat The Gambians. The Gambians on the other hand had a rich preparation. They played series of friendly matches in Senegal and their performance during these friendly matches were impressive.
However, about 90% of the Gambian players are schoolboys. Most of them are non league players. Of 18 players only six players in the Gambian team are not schoolboys. Of the six players only two players are regulars in their team. They are the team captain, Hassan Nyang who is a defender and Lamin Sanko. However this will be an added advantage to Sierra Stars whose players are regulars in their clubs.
The Sierra Stars are well determined to crush the Gambians. "We are going to play not for money but to lift the country's flag high and nothing will stop us from walloping them" boasted Ajina.. However, Sierra Stars will have nearly the entire crowd in the Stadium cheering them up for victory and no doubt they will start the match as the favourites to grab victory.
A victory for the Gambians will be a surprise news. Some of the players that are expected to make up the Sierra Stars team today are goal keeper Idrissa, Wurie Jalloh, Adiru Daniel Foday-captain BB, Sesay and uncle.
The Young Scorpions coach Pa Suwaieh faye who is 37 years told Concord Times on Thursday that his team is just three weeks old and he is just one month old in the job so he can't assure that his team will win the match.
"We will play good football" he said. He further said he respected the Sierra Stars team.
Meanwhile Cote d' Ivoire have announced their withdrawal from the CAF U-17 qualifying series. They were supposed to face Liberia. Cote d' ivore's withdrawal means that Liberia have qualified for the first round stage of the qualifying series. Below are the full under-17 fixtures for the weekend. The first teams mentioned are the host. Namibia - Gabon Eritrea - Burundi Swaziland - Tanzania Senegal - Guinea Bissau Malawi - Mauritius Eq.Guinea - Sao Tome Kenya - Somalia Rwanda - Ethiopia Madagascar - Lesotho Zimbabwe - Botswana Sierra Leone - The Gambia Libya - Chad Sudan - Uganda Togo- Algeria The Gambian delegation players 1. Muhammed Thomas - St. Martin 2. Abdulie Njie - Student 3. Madi Conteh - Walidan FC 4. Lamin Sonko - Flamings 5. Hassan Nyang - St. Martin 6. Foday Suwareh - Student 7. Pa Ousman Sonko - Starllite 8. Tijan Mboob - Bakau United 9. Sanjally Sarr - Student 10. Demba Jagne - Student 11. Sheikh Omar Njie - Student 12. Ebou Njie - Student 13. Babucarr Saho - Stud!
ent 14. Sarjo Cham - Student 15. Badou Conateh - Student 16. Assan Jatta - Student (Steve Beco) 17. Joe Jatta 18. Arthur Gomer - Student
Technical Staff Pa Suwareh Faye - Coach Alagie Sillah Pa Samba Mbenga
Delegation Leader Abdul Salam Jammeh Medical Staff Alagie Mboob Pa Matarr Ndow
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:20:06 -0400
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Very well said Abdoulaye.
Beran
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Subject: Your Troops Committed Cold- Blooded Murder!
President Jammeh:
As you return home, you will be greeted by the blood, grief and
sadness
of Gambians and all peace loving people around the world,
because of
the massacre of some 18 people, including Omar Barrow, a
journalist.
This slaughter of defenseless people was callous and reflects
the
depravity of a military force bent on maintaing "law and order"
in the
face of chaos, and unbridled military brutality Gambians are
subjected
to daily.
When you came to power in 1994 you raised the expectations of
ordinary
Gambians for a better life, promised democracy, accountability,
transparency, and human rights. In the course of six years,
you, and
your security forces have killed, and maimed Gambians in your
reckless
effort to hold on to power. In fact, by all indicators,
Gambians are
worse of today than they were six years ago, despite what Isatou
Njie-Saidy, your vice-president, said to the nation. Clearly,
this is
not the Isatou Njie I knew at Armitage High School and a
colleague at
Brikama Junior Secondary school. Your rule has been an
abomination, and
in the end, brought nothing but pain and grief to our people and
nation.
You have lost all credibility and moral standing in the country
and
international community, not that you enjoyed much of these, at
any
rate.
* You must release the bodies to their families for proper
burial.
* Release all those still held in custody.
* Train security officers in crowd/ demonstration management.
* Train officers to respect the fundamental rights of people.
* Allow for an independent investigation of the 10 April
Massacre.
* Halt the harassment of students and citizens.
* Apologize to the nation and families of the slain.
* Financially compensate the families of the slain.
* Provide the wounded with free medical care at home or overseas
if medically determined.
* Also compensate the wounded, and finally,
* Let the truth be told about the Massacre.
Abdoulaye Saine
Oxford, OH USA
No justice, no peace!
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Dear list owner/manager,
Please subscribe Mr. Ahmed Manjang to this famous and useful mailing list as
soon as you possibly could. His e-mail address is: [log in to unmask]
Your urgent attention is sought.
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A shame that this is the best statement that the European Economic Union could muster.
LISBON, April 14 (Reuters) - The European Union on Friday called on Gambian authorities to ensure a fair trial for all those involved in student riots on Monday that left 12 dead.
Monday's riots erupted in the West African nation's capital Banjul over the alleged torture and murder of a school pupil by fire fighters.
"The EU appeals to authorities in Gambia to use the utmost moderation in acting to maintain or restore public order, and to observe the need to respect human rights and the rule of law," said a statement issued in Portugal, which currently holds the revolving EU presidency.
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Gambia-lers,
I am back in The Gambia and i will give a full report on the situation. I
have spoken to almost all the authorities and i have also collected some
facts from the hospital and other offices. I have the name of all those who
were killed and where they come from.
The silence of the list managers on the choice of words of madiba and those
how supports the use of such language, is a testimony to the fact that there
rules set for the Anti-Jammeh camp which a different from the Pro-Jammeh
camp. I would not however respond by using such languages.
I will be in Atlanta for the July 4th so saul and others who cannot wait to
confront me in person, this is an opportunity. All my numbers are as follow:
Home: (220) 46 20 20
Office (220) 37 42 23
37 39 12-8
Fax: (220) 37 42 42
I am not one of those who run away from problems or criticisms. You can call
me any time to insult or say whatever you want to. I learn from these things
and they only make my convictions stronger.
As for Jabou and the others, i have been a member of Amesty International
for decades. A fee paying member for that matter. I am the Baord of
Directors of Amnesty International Gambia on my merits. I never solicited
for the post.
I will give you guys an update and how i see the situation in the next few
hours.
PEACE
TOMBONG
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>Please, give us more information of the happenings of the Students' demo.
>The news is somewhat uncertain.
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Katim:
These proposals are very well thought out, and I support them.
Abdoulaye
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Subject: Web site and organization name
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Hi folks,
I would like to suggest Free Gambia as the name of the umbrella =
organization I suggested. I think anyone would be proud to work for and =
toward a Free Gambia. Along these lines, I would suggest we use the =
domain name freegambia.org, since the organization will be a non-profit =
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Just some suggestions. I'll be sending in some more suggestions to get =
things off the ground, and the ball rolling. Keep the faith.
Katim
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Edi Sidibeh:
With due respect, I found your senseless article irritating. At this moment,
we are all grieving. It is not proper to question whether antagonists of the
dictatorship are God-fearing. The Gambia has lost intellectual property that
is irreplaceable. No one knows whether one of these school kids could have
been our savior tomorrow.
Please avoid questioning whether critics are God-fearing. Our responsibility
is for a better Gambia. Every Gambian is affected by the tragic turn of
events in our country. I have problems sleeping and I'm constantly thinking
about the families of those innocent children. Their pain cannot be
measured. We are one family. Please let us mourn.
Comrade,
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**Yahya Jammeh's Miranda**
Mr Yahya Jemus KKK Jammeh, you have been charged
with "hijacking "The Gambia and using deadly force on 12
innocent children not to mention other crimes committed
since you've become self-proclaimed President Of the Gambia.
Mr Jammeh You Have The Right To Swing First,
However, Any Move You Make Will Be Used As An
Excuse To Beat The Living Shit Out Of You. Mr.
Jammeh You Have The Right To A Doctor And A Lousy
Lawyer Would Help, If You Do Not Have A doctor, Or
Can't Afford A Lawyer, One Of Your Dumbest Doctors
And Most Crooked Lawyers Will Be Appointed To You.
Do You Understand The Rights That I Have Explained
To You, You Remorseless SCUMBAG! Are you Listening
To The People You Claim To Serve, Mr "Pres-Is-Down."
CHANT WITH ME
Yahya must go! Yahya must go! Yahya must go! Yahya must go!
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:36:03 +0100
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Dear Friends,
Muslims all over the Gambia have offered prayers in mosque and homes for the death
, wounded and continued peace in The Gambia. Our christian brothers and sisters will
also be offering prayers in all churches on sunday. May Allah the All Mighty answer
our prayers for peace and continued tranquility in our belovered country. Amen .I
urge you all to join us in prayers.
Chi Jamma.
Bro. Sheikh Tejan Nyang.
>
> nation.
> You have lost all credibility and moral standing in the country
> and
> international community, not that you enjoyed much of these, at
> any
> rate.
>
> * You must release the bodies to their families for proper
> burial.
>
> * Release all those still held in custody.
>
> * Train security officers in crowd/ demonstration management.
>
> * Train officers to respect the fundamental rights of people.
>
> * Allow for an independent investigation of the 10 April
> Massacre.
>
> * Halt the harassment of students and citizens.
>
> * Apologize to the nation and families of the slain.
>
> * Financially compensate the families of the slain.
>
> * Provide the wounded with free medical care at home or overseas
> if medically determined.
>
> * Also compensate the wounded, and finally,
>
> * Let the truth be told about the Massacre.
>
> Abdoulaye Saine
> Oxford, OH USA
>
> No justice, no peace!
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Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:50:38 +0100
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> Sorry for that mistake.can you please re-mail it for me to the G-L.Thank
you
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> Saiks
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> Subject: Government busy denying events of bloody Monday
>
>
> > Culled from GRTS News,
> >
> > "The government of the Gambia has called a press conference yesterday
for
> > what its spokesman Mr. Sarjo Jallow said was to appeal to all Gambians
to
> > help guide the healing process following fatal students riots on Monday
> and
> > Tuesday. The press conference took place at the Interior Department in
> > Banjul, and attended by about half of the cabinet, including senior
> security
> > officers. The government spokesman Mr. Jallow, who is also the
Information
> > Secretary, said they are in touch with President Yaya Jammeh, whom he
said
> > is expected back in Banjul from Cuba as soon as possible. Mr. Jallow
said
> > the president and the cabinet are concerned about incidents of the last
> few
> > days, and are committted to see justice done. But he also appealed to
the
> > public to exercise patience and allow investigations into the riots to
> > conclude. Meanwhile. the Health Secretary Abdoulie Sallah said 20 people
> are
> > still receiving treatment at the RVH. He said nine dead bodies have been
> > identified, but there still remains two bodies, one of which is a
ten-year
> > old child. The other one is a young man. Mr. Sallah said a post-motem
on
> > the bodies are being carried out by pathologists, and they will produce
> > their report by next week.
> >
> > At the same press conference, the Interior Secretary Ousman Badgie has
> > again stated that gun shootings in the riots on Monday were fired by
> > criminals who attacked police stations to get arms. He said the
> information
> > they have is that during the chaos some convicts from police stations
in
> > Kotu, Bunding and Serre Kunda ransacked these stations, which were then
> > attacked by ex-prisoners from Mile Two central prisons. Mr. Badgie
pointed
> > out that they now have two people in custudy, whom he said attacked the
> > armoury of Serre Kunda police and took away arms. He said the two have
in
> > fact revealed eight other names, who also belong to the gang, and are
all
> > said to be ex-convicts. Mr. Badgie's comments corroborate those of the
> Vice
> > President Isatou Njie Saidy, who said on Wednesday that shooting come
> from
> > within the demonstrators, thus exonerating the security forces of any
> firing
> > of life bullets. Mr. Badgie also denied that there are any students
beaten
> > in police stations or at GTTI. The Interior Secretary has also condemned
> the
> > phone-in programmes that Radio One FM, and Sud FM Banjul conducted in
the
> > wake of the riots. He said they are not encouraging, and could create
an
> > upheaval. Mr. Badgie said investigations are going on into facts of the
> > riots, but he dismissed a call from a jouirnalist that outside
independent
> > police be invited to carry out the investigations. He said the Gambia is
a
> > sovereign state, and it has a competent and capable police force to do
> that
> > on its own.
> >
> > Also speaking at the press conference the Justice Secretary Pap
Cheyassin
> > Secka said an inquiry will be carried out into the events of the last
few
> > days, and that all offenders will face the law. He also revealed that
the
> > case of Ebrima Barry, the schoolboy who died in Brikama after allegedly
> > been beaten by fire service officers, will be filed next week. He said
> his
> > department will appoint a public prosecutor, and will foot the bills
> > itself, but they would not interfere with the proceedings. He also said
> > members of the public are invited to suggest names of lawyers, either at
> > home or abroad, who can conduct the prosecution. In the case of the
raped
> > school girl from Brikama-ba, Binta Manneh, Mr. Secka said his office
faces
> > the difficulty of identifying the alleged rapist, and called on the
> general
> > public to help in the identification of the alleged rapist. A few weeks
> ago
> > the police lined up its forces and asked Binta to identify who raped
her,
> > but she could not pin-point anyone. The Justice secretary also pointed
> out
> > that students have a right to demonstrate under the constitution of the
> > country, but he said that right is not absolute. He said students should
> > have informed the relevant authorities about it, who would have to
decide
> > when and where it should be held. Mr. Secka said pathologists are
> examining
> > bodies, and by next week they would be ready to establish the cause of
the
> > injuries and deaths.
> >
> > The Education secretary Ann Therese Ndong Jatta has also spoken in
favour
> of
> > the actions of the security forces to put down demonstrations on
Monday,
> on
> > the grounds that the government had the right to maintain law and order
> and
> > stability. Speaking at a government organised press conference
yesterday,
> > she said the students never consulted her office about what they
intended
> to
> > do on Monday. She said their move was clandestine, which was lately
> detected
> > by the intelligence service. She noted that the chaos could have been
> > avoided if students had contacted the relevant authorities."
> >
> >
> > A.Drammeh.
> >
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Sophie,
Sorry for the fact that I could not reply to you
earlier than now, I just got your message. Yes, you
can go ahead and make copies. No problem.
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Gambia-L,
I was briefly away for the last two days. Actually I took Thursday and Friday
off from work to have more time to digest, think and act, but I had to attend to
duties which suddenly came up with immediate urgency.
First of all, those in Europe may send contributions to the following account:
Outside Germany:
Bank: Volksbank Hoexter-Beverungen
Acount holder: Robinson/Gambia-L
Swift code: Geno DEMS
Acount #: DE35472624062040218900
Within Germany:
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BLZ: 47262406
I preferred using Gambia-L alone as the holder, but German bureaucracy is
sometimes not too easy to beat, so we settled for a compromise. In accordance,
with Buharry's proposal, I'll also provide receipts for any payments into the
account. I was thinking that once we have the website done, the state of the
account can be regularly posted there for transparency's sake. In the meantime,
updates will be sent to The L.
Soffie Ceesay, I hope you went ahead with the printing of Cry Not Mama. Anyone
who wishes to use my Poems in a positive way should feel free to do so.
Yankuba Njie, please add me to the list of signatories. My messages to you keep
bouncing back.
Concerning the Website, it is a positive sign to see so many volunteers and host
offers. My opinion on this is that while working on a team to prepare The
Website, other efforts can run parallel. Since George Sarr is already working on
something for Gambiansonline.com and is coming in with lots of experience to
offer, I think he should not join the Team, use some of the materials he has
from Gambiansonline.com for The Site and vice versa. Based on the Slogan "One
Struggle many Fronts" we can have Sites featuring similar themes. Each Site will
be an additional enrichment. We may even provide materials for anyone wishing to
promote our course as long as the rules are clear. I also think that we should
start with the resources available now and try to get better with time. Kartim
made some brilliant suggestions on the nitty-gritty of the project.
George Sarr's statement "Am not sure if you guys made any decisions yet..."
gives the impression that there are some guys making the decisions. As far as I
know, the decisions are being made as we discuss on the L. I mention this simply
to avoid any misunderstanding. The way I feel about the fighting spirit in the
L, can be compared to a "Mongolian hot pot" where everyone sitting around the
fire adds something raw to the pot full of boiling water and fishes out
something cooked, leaving a delicious soup to be shared at the end by everyone.
The more people there are adding ingredients to the pot, the tastier it becomes.
I'll now take some rest.
Good night everybody.
Alpha Robinson
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Gambia-l:
I have already registered the domain names FreeGambia.com, FreeGambia.net, and FreeGambia.org, so that we can use them if and when necessary. To be sure we didn't miss anything, I also registered JammehMustGo.com. We must act now!
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Tombong wrote:
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>The silence of the list managers on the choice of words of madiba and those
>how supports the use of such language, ...
While I am no longer a list manager, I agree with Tombong on the issue of
our choice of language. We do ourselves a tremendous dis-service by using
abusive, vulgar, and uncultured language, which has the tendency of shunning
many who would otherwise be active participants in the dialogues. It is
'ungambian'! (to borrow a much abusive phrase).
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language.
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Hi Folks,
I hereby apologise to the entire forum for using uncouth language to
address Mr. Tombong Saidy. I got carried away because of the senseless
killing of unarmed children by the despotic government he represents.
I know some of you are old enough to be my mother/father...please find it
in your heart to forgive.
With best regards,
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Brother Tijan
Thanks for the update
Tonight is the tenth day of Ashora and a special day for muslims . Ironically it is
also a period of mourning of the martyrs Hussien/ Hassan who was sacrificed by the
enemies of the prophet. At the prayers tonight and tomorrow the students and adults who
lost their lives will be remembered. and also thank all who spoke up against this
silently or verbally or in writing (as one of the sahih buhari hadith teaches)
Wasalaam
habib
Sheikh Tejan Nyang wrote:
> Dear Friends,
> Muslims all over the Gambia have offered prayers in mosque and homes for the death
> , wounded and continued peace in The Gambia. Our christian brothers and sisters will
> also be offering prayers in all churches on sunday. May Allah the All Mighty answer
> our prayers for peace and continued tranquility in our belovered country. Amen .I
> urge you all to join us in prayers.
>
> Chi Jamma.
> Bro. Sheikh Tejan Nyang.
>
> >
> > nation.
> > You have lost all credibility and moral standing in the country
> > and
> > international community, not that you enjoyed much of these, at
> > any
> > rate.
> >
> > * You must release the bodies to their families for proper
> > burial.
> >
> > * Release all those still held in custody.
> >
> > * Train security officers in crowd/ demonstration management.
> >
> > * Train officers to respect the fundamental rights of people.
> >
> > * Allow for an independent investigation of the 10 April
> > Massacre.
> >
> > * Halt the harassment of students and citizens.
> >
> > * Apologize to the nation and families of the slain.
> >
> > * Financially compensate the families of the slain.
> >
> > * Provide the wounded with free medical care at home or overseas
> > if medically determined.
> >
> > * Also compensate the wounded, and finally,
> >
> > * Let the truth be told about the Massacre.
> >
> > Abdoulaye Saine
> > Oxford, OH USA
> >
> > No justice, no peace!
> >
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Madiba,
It is human to err. But it takes a better man/woman to own up to their errors.
Regards,
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Tombong,
Don't over-estimate your own importance in this decadent regime. If you come
to the US and say something dumb about what is going on in Gambia in my
presence, you won't get away with it. But, otherwise, what makes you think
you interest me at all? In the scheme of things, you're still nothing but a
mere petty lackey! I was present when you had a scuffle with Sallah Jr at
the ALD in '95. If that is the type of confrontation you yearn for to up
your stock with Jammeh, you got the wrong guy here. If it comes to it, there
are many ways of skinning the cat. So, don't dare me, because you won't like
what you get. You got this position not out of competence, but SUCKING up to
Yaya Jammeh. How the hell does being a DC cab driver for years qualify one
to be a TV GM in Gambia? Anyone with sense can tell by the grammar you write
what your competence level is. So, watch your ego. You were ZERO before Yaya
Jammeh, and you'll be ZERO after he's gone -WHICH WILL BE SOOOOOON! Your day
of reckoning is not far off. Not far off at all.
Saul.
>Gambia-lers,
>
>I am back in The Gambia and i will give a full report on the situation. I
>have spoken to almost all the authorities and i have also collected
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Well done Madiba . Only the brave like you and. Tombong can admit their human
errs and make up and continue. May Allah give us all the patience go through
this ordeal.
Folks without the mutual cooperation of all parties there will be no solution.
Let us mourn but keep on with our traditional relationships alive. There will
always be differences and agreements as long as we communicate.
Thanks again.
My only question is why are the dead not buried yet .??? It bothers me a lot. it
is almost a week and that is a very unislamic practice to delay funerals no
matter what the cause was or is.
pardon me if I have offended anyone. Our christian brothers and families do so
but only t wait for other relatives to gather. Is that the case here?
Habib
Madiba Saidy wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I hereby apologise to the entire forum for using uncouth language to
> address Mr. Tombong Saidy. I got carried away because of the senseless
> killing of unarmed children by the despotic government he represents.
>
> I know some of you are old enough to be my mother/father...please find it
> in your heart to forgive.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Madiba.
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Brother Sidi,
May your prayers and all of us be heard. The Gambia needs God's help
Ameen
Momodou Mamburay (Mams) sends you his best regards. I spoke with him
today.
sidi sanneh wrote:
> Habib,
> I have been praying since I got back from mission only
> to be greeted with this terrible carnage. All of the
> children, family, friends and the entire Gambian
> population will be remembered in our prayers. Have a
> good evening.
> Kind regards
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Saul,
I like what you write! I have some things to say but I want to wait until
our dead are buried. I also did not want to shift the focus form the
murderers. If any naive persons believe that they can fight Yaya with silk
gloves on, they need some lessons on real politikk! They haven't been
studying Jammeh's personality. But more on that later.
I had been turning and tossing in bed for three hours before I finally gave
up trying to go to sleep, all because of Jammeh and his apologist running
dogs! Normally I should have been up in a couple of hours time. Here, I sit,
dry eyed, chain smoking. I don't know how I manage not to get high blood,
like you whiles at the same time trying to keep myself from writing until
after our clown returns home to tell us if and when we can bury our fallen
heroes. Jammeh and all those who help maintain him in power don't deserve MY
respect. Period.
Before I get carried away I should just say that we need to be very vigilant
about those who only dared talk openly against Jammeh after the 10th. You
and I, and I must say some others did not sit on the fence until we thought
we had read in which direction the wind was blowing before we decided to be
counted, and they got the guts to moralise here, NOW of all times. Later.
Regards.
Kabir
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Subject: Tombong: Re: Attn: Shiek-Tejan and Tombong
> Tombong,
>
> Don't over-estimate your own importance in this decadent regime. If you
come
> to the US and say something dumb about what is going on in Gambia in my
> presence, you won't get away with it. But, otherwise, what makes you think
> you interest me at all? In the scheme of things, you're still nothing but
a
> mere petty lackey! I was present when you had a scuffle with Sallah Jr at
> the ALD in '95. If that is the type of confrontation you yearn for to up
> your stock with Jammeh, you got the wrong guy here. If it comes to it,
there
> are many ways of skinning the cat. So, don't dare me, because you won't
like
> what you get. You got this position not out of competence, but SUCKING up
to
> Yaya Jammeh. How the hell does being a DC cab driver for years qualify
one
> to be a TV GM in Gambia? Anyone with sense can tell by the grammar you
write
> what your competence level is. So, watch your ego. You were ZERO before
Yaya
> Jammeh, and you'll be ZERO after he's gone -WHICH WILL BE SOOOOOON! Your
day
> of reckoning is not far off. Not far off at all.
>
> Saul.
>
> >Gambia-lers,
> >
> >I am back in The Gambia and i will give a full report on the situation. I
> >have spoken to almost all the authorities and i have also collected
>
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As we condemn biased reporting, so we must commend journalists who remain=
true
to thier calling even under pressure. I am proud of the Point for the art=
icle
below:
cheers,
Modou.
Culled from the Point as published on Quantum web site
The Point Published Saturday, 15 April, 2000 =
We Want Peace,But...
The statements by Vice President Isatou Njie-Saidy and
Interior Secretary Ousman Badjie called for an analysis.=
In the case of the Secretary for the Interior, his
statements over the Radio and the TV are different.
According to the Radio Gambia report, Badjie stated
that the security forces only used rubber bullets and
tear gas. In the interview over the TV, he stated that
they used blanc ammunition, tear gas, batons. =
Now, rubber bullets at close range kill, so the use of
rubber bullets could have caused death.
Badjie also said intelligence information revealed that=
armed civilians were within the ranks of the
demonstrators. If that was the case, then how many
members of the security forces were shot by these
people? Better still, were any of the armed men identifi=
ed
or arrested since they were located by intelligence
operatives?
Now, we would not bother to join the speculation on the
suggested identity of such people, which is rampant in
town, for want of proof. But we need to know whether
the intelligence men, that identified them, just stood b=
y
and allowed them to go scot free thereby failing in thei=
r
real national security responsibility. =
If that was the case, then those are the real threat to
national security, and not the students!
If those people were on the scene and located, they
should have been the primary concern and focus of the
security, and a special group should have been
assigned the role to round them up.
Our sister, the Vice President said the shooting started=
from within the demonstrators. In both Badjie's and
Njie-Saidy's accounts, the point made seems to indicate
that these people were firing at the forces. Mrs.
Njie-Sady's account clearly denotes that the shooting
started from their end. The question is - was it because=
these people were firing at them, that the security
retaliated using live ammunition in addition to the
rubber bullets? =
And were any gunmen hit, as was the case with several
students? Or are we to believe that the gunmen
(apparently enemies of the law, as former detainees, as
said last night on TV and potential enemies of the state=
which jailed them) shot at the students while moving
among them, and none of the student attempted to run
away from them?
Or for those shot, were they shot from the back and, if
so, what explains the reported frontal injuries suffered=
by the victims. =
Is it a case of being between two fires - with the obvio=
us
picture for all to visualise.
It is an open secret that these two statements and
pronoucements did not go down well with the public, as
verified in transport vehicles, public gatherings
(funerals), markets and mosques surroundings.
As we said in our last issue, the failure to avert the
tragedy lies squarely on the shoulders of the
government, and it has to assume full responsibility for=
what happened. =
Hundreds of onloookers saw who did what. The truth
must be accepted and said. When a young man is
brought to a police station for stealing, his parents be=
ar
the brunt of insults and abuses from the police who
place the responsibility for such a disposition on their=
shoulders, although they did not actually commit the
felony themselves (No amalgamation please, a
constitutional right for demonstration is diffferent fro=
m
stealing).
The same applies in this case - the government is the
mother and father of the security forces. =
If the government, through its agents fails to protect
lives, properties and maintain peace and security at one=
point in time, it must be courageous enough to accept
that it is unable to govern; thus it must assume full
responsibility for any situation that arises.
The need for peace and stability must be understood by
government as a sincere effort to address the concerns
and aspirations of the people.
If concerns are not addressed, if issues are not resolve=
d,
and if no apparent moves are made openly to allow
everybody and aggrieved parties to see that the
principles of good governance and the rule of law are
observed, resentment, discord and clashes are bound to
happen.
In order words, it is the government that should lay the=
foundation for peace and stability in the first place, b=
y
creating the necessary conducive environment.
On media objectivity, let us tell our sister and her
colleagues that just by associating her in this piece, w=
e
are abiding by the requirement for journalistic
objectivity. =
By hinting that a number of people should resign, we
did not exclude our sister nor our brother Badjie:
meaning that the principles of objectivity were
observed. The objectivity of the journalist entails that=
he/she distances herself from the people or events
he/she is observing (people here, are people you
normally know and interact with). =
And we cannot be accused of not having condemned in
the most vehement terms the destruction of properties.
We re-iterate our call for all responsibilities to be
situated through a credible independent enquiry, for,
that, and only that, could appease the wounded people.
We subscribe to Peace with a capital P, but not to the
"Peace by Force" slogan that some of the security
forces were heard shouting to the boys and girls. For
"peace by force" can only be the best recipe for
disruption of the peace, for conflict and instablity! =
Concerning the abuses "stupid, crazy Deyda" and the
death threats, we respond that as documented, in 1994,
when it was "hotter" and more dangerous as early as
September, we offered our life to The Gambia. The
situation is still the same, for as a journalist, we're
obliged to place our responsibility to the people above
and beyond loyalty to anything else. As for the threats:=
Yes, a bullet comes with a frightening speed, pierces
your skin, enters and explodes in your body's
horizontal extremity. Small boys and girls endured it,
so why not us? We are no better than them. As for the
fire, it is true that it consumes you in a horrible
manner. But ....you land in Heaven. So what?
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Tombong,
Your posting shown that you consider criticism as a tool for
development and a room for improvement.Please keep us inform and continue
with the good work.
ARONA
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>Gambia-lers,
>
>I am back in The Gambia and i will give a full report on the situation. I
>have spoken to almost all the authorities and i have also collected some
>facts from the hospital and other offices. I have the name of all those who
>were killed and where they come from.
>
>The silence of the list managers on the choice of words of madiba and those
>how supports the use of such language, is a testimony to the fact that
>there
>rules set for the Anti-Jammeh camp which a different from the Pro-Jammeh
>camp. I would not however respond by using such languages.
>
>I will be in Atlanta for the July 4th so saul and others who cannot wait to
>confront me in person, this is an opportunity. All my numbers are as
>follow:
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>Home: (220) 46 20 20
>Office (220) 37 42 23
> 37 39 12-8
>Fax: (220) 37 42 42
>
>I am not one of those who run away from problems or criticisms. You can
>call
>me any time to insult or say whatever you want to. I learn from these
>things
>and they only make my convictions stronger.
>
>As for Jabou and the others, i have been a member of Amesty International
>for decades. A fee paying member for that matter. I am the Baord of
>Directors of Amnesty International Gambia on my merits. I never solicited
>for the post.
>
>I will give you guys an update and how i see the situation in the next few
>hours.
>
>PEACE
>
>TOMBONG
>
>
>
>
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>>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:54:32 +0200
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>>Please, give us more information of the happenings of the Students' demo.
>>The news is somewhat uncertain.
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Very sad indeed that this is all the EU can say. However, we have to realize
that these guys at home are lying ans misrepresenting what has transpired,
and the news media, at least here in the U.S has not reported much about
this. This is why I think it is imperative that we send information to all
the major news outlets as we send the petition out.I will send out as much as
I can, and please do so any of you if you can.
Jabou Joh
A shame that this is the best statement that the European Economic Union
could muster.
LISBON, April 14 (Reuters) - The European Union on Friday called on Gambian
authorities to ensure a fair trial for all those involved in student riots on
Monday that left 12 dead.
Monday's riots erupted in the West African nation's capital Banjul over the
alleged torture and murder of a school pupil by fire fighters.
"The EU appeals to authorities in Gambia to use the utmost moderation in
acting to maintain or restore public order, and to observe the need to
respect human rights and the rule of law," said a statement issued in
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<< As for Jabou and the others, i have been a member of Amesty International
for decades. A fee paying member for that matter. I am the Baord of
Directors of Amnesty International Gambia on my merits. I never solicited
for the post. >>
***********************
That is unfortunate because as I said, it is akin to asking the wolf to guard
the sheep. I will make sure I register my objection to it with Amnesty
International, and urge them to review your membership. I wonder what the
merits were based on. BTW, anybody can be a fee paying member of Amnesty, all
you have to do is fill a form and send the dues in.One does have to be
dedicated to the pursuit of justice without any iota of compromise though,
that is the criterion not everyone can meet.
Jabou Joh
Jabou
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Inshallah, we have been praying since we heard this terrible atrocity, and we
will continue to pray that Allah (SWT) brings comfort to the oppressed and
maltreated Gambia, and that he bring retribution to bear on the culprits.
Allah (SWT) sees and knows everything, and he says that if his devoted
servants are wronged and they pray to him, he will answer their prayers. So I
urge all the devoted servants of God in The Gambia to pray to Him so he will
bring justice and repay all those holding our nation in bondage in kind. Ameen
Jabou Joh
Dear Friends,
Muslims all over the Gambia have offered prayers in mosque and homes for
the death
, wounded and continued peace in The Gambia. Our christian brothers and
sisters will
also be offering prayers in all churches on sunday. May Allah the All Mighty
answer
our prayers for peace and continued tranquility in our belovered country.
Amen .I
urge you all to join us in prayers.
Chi Jamma.
Bro. Sheikh Tejan Nyang.
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Malanding,
I seconded your motion that we all lay down our attacks on Tombong. Let's
focus on who is responsible for the casualties. I, mean, who authorized the
killings. Tombong is just trying to secure his job and no one can blame him
for that. This is what happens when you have a military govt. They don't play
by the book.
My heartfelt condolence goes to the family of the deceased.
The President MUST act now otherwise instability will be the order of the
day. The Gambia Cannot, Would not, and Should not Entertain such an uncalled
Bloodshed.
All the parties involved MUST cease the violence.
The people involved in the killing of Ebrima Barry and the rape of the
student girl MUST be dealt with accordingly and prosecuted to the fullest.
They deserved no mercy. They belong to Mile 2 for good.
Long live The Gambia.
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As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after which I will
give my analysis of the whole situation.
NUMBER OF DECEASED
According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were received at
around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96 patients
seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 from
Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have been
discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central Division
area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported from
Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies were
identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one unidentified
body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
DECEASED REGISTERED
# NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding ---------------
9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra Leonean
11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
12. Unidentified Teenager
Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay’s source, the bodies are being released as
relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there was no
order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be kept until
the President’s return. Ebrima’s source also claimed that there are “14
confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could you
please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names of the
remaining two death bodies.
PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline Comprehensive
4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau Station
11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema Kunku)
12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
New Jeshwang)
13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline Comprehensive
15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo Town
17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe
20. Sana Bojang Civilian New Jeshwang
21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High School
22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine’s H. School
25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
TOTAL 128 Cases
The above were treated and released.
PRESS RELEASE
As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competing,
principles:
i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to answer for
it;
ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair hearing.
The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later convicted
if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the Department
of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role outlined
above.
In line with the Government’s commitment to the principles of transparency
and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must not only
be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers under
section 11(1) of the Coroner’s Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an inquest
be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the events of
the 10th and 11th April 2000.
The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not an
offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be filed in
the course of next week.
In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice system is
itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal Procedure
Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends of
justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers, (both
at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of the
alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
The Attorney General’s Chambers will provide logical support; but will
otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of local a
prosecutor.
As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General’s Chambers is handicapped by
the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
Attorney General & Secretary of State
For Justice
Attorney General’s Chambers &
Department of State for Justice
Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
Banjul
13 April, 2000
Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take on this
whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both sides of
the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The Gambia,
surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 – the KUKOI FIASCO. I join
all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to the
families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad event that
could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the constitutional
right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there are laws
and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from a given
authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a permit
according to the authorities. The Department of State for the Interior sent
a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses including GRTS
claiming that they have received information on a potential strike being
organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to seek
permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of me, so I
am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a permit, and
they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunday April
9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of States
and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU Executive
to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since the
President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the Executive
from the GTTI to StateHouse.
On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of State for
the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and to escort
them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It was during
this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some GAMSU
Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various reasons.
While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were negotiating,
some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into GTTI. The
Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell broke
loose. I believe the security should and could have contained things and
this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were emanating
from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out numbered the
police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI, students
began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, Brikama
Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and everything
within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the majority
of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some non-students
seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot, destroy
private and public properties, banks etc.
The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place. Soldiers
came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed, prisoners
were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police and the
armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and individuals,
mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fact some
civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody.
Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths and
injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about who stated
the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sate for
the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets. The
Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event will
verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is that not
single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed students
were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to do.
The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank of
Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were generally
done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own ends. A
lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this whole
fiasco.
Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with their
phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their action
has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a phone
in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good idea.
All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being said
over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the phone-in
programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the security.
The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went beyond
their control when other non-students joined in. The security was ill
prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the handling
of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The critics
could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more for
Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to
Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by
providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds around the
country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them computers for
their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van
(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own telecentres
(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just a few
of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to power.
Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time in the
history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is very
unfair.
PEACE
Tombong
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>Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:16:16 PDT
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>Gambia-l,
>
>As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after which I
>will
>give my analysis of the whole situation.
>
>NUMBER OF DECEASED
>
>According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were received at
>around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96
>patients
>seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 from
>Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have been
>discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central Division
>area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
>
>The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported from
>Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies were
>identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one unidentified
>body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
>
>DECEASED REGISTERED
>
># NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
>
>1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
>2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
>3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
>4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
>5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
>6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
>7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
>8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding ---------------
>9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
>10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra Leonean
>11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
>12. Unidentified Teenager
>
>Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay’s source, the bodies are being released as
>relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there was no
>order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be kept until
>the President’s return. Ebrima’s source also claimed that there are “14
>confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could you
>please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names of the
>remaining two death bodies.
>
>PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
>
>NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
>
>1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
>2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
>3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline Comprehensive
>4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
>5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
>6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
>7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
>8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
>9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
>10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau Station
>11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema Kunku)
>12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
>
> New Jeshwang)
>13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
>14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline Comprehensive
>15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
>16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo Town
>17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
>18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
>19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe
>20. Sana Bojang Civilian New Jeshwang
>21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High School
>22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
>23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
>24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine’s H. School
>25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
>26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
>27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
>28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
>29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
>30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
>31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
>
>REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
>
>Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
>Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
>Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
>Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
>
>TOTAL 128 Cases
>
>The above were treated and released.
>
>
>PRESS RELEASE
>
>As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
>constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competing,
>principles:
>
>i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to answer
>for
>it;
>
>ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair
>hearing.
>
>The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later convicted
>if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
>
>The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the Department
>of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role outlined
>above.
>
>In line with the Government’s commitment to the principles of transparency
>and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must not
>only
>be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers under
>section 11(1) of the Coroner’s Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
>simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an inquest
>be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the events of
>the 10th and 11th April 2000.
>
>The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not an
>offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
>
>As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be filed in
>the course of next week.
>
>In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice system is
>itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
>appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal Procedure
>Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends of
>justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers, (both
>at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of the
>alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
>
>The Attorney General’s Chambers will provide logical support; but will
>otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
>
>The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of local a
>prosecutor.
>
>As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General’s Chambers is handicapped by
>the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
>
>
>Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
>Attorney General & Secretary of State
>For Justice
>
>Attorney General’s Chambers &
>Department of State for Justice
>Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
>Banjul
>
>13 April, 2000
>
>
>
>Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take on this
>whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both sides of
>the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
>
>April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The Gambia,
>surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 – the KUKOI FIASCO. I join
>all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to the
>families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad event that
>could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
>
>The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the constitutional
>right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there are laws
>and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from a given
>authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a permit
>according to the authorities. The Department of State for the Interior sent
>a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses including GRTS
>claiming that they have received information on a potential strike being
>organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to seek
>permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
>demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of me, so I
>am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a permit, and
>they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunday April
>9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of States
>and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU Executive
>to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since the
>President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the
>Executive
>from the GTTI to StateHouse.
>
>On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of State for
>the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and to
>escort
>them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It was
>during
>this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some GAMSU
>Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various reasons.
>
>While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were negotiating,
>some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into GTTI.
>The
>Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell broke
>loose. I believe the security should and could have contained things and
>this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were emanating
>from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out numbered the
>police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI, students
>began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, Brikama
>Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and everything
>within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the
>majority
>of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some non-students
>seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot, destroy
>private and public properties, banks etc.
>
>The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place. Soldiers
>came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed,
>prisoners
>were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police and the
>armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and individuals,
>mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fact some
>civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody.
>
>Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths and
>injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about who stated
>the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sate for
>the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets. The
>Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event will
>verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is that not
>single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed students
>were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to do.
>
>The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank of
>Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were
>generally
>done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own ends. A
>lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this whole
>fiasco.
>
>Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with
>their
>phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their action
>has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a
>phone
>in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good idea.
>All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being said
>over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the phone-in
>programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the security.
>
>The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went beyond
>their control when other non-students joined in. The security was ill
>prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
>
>
>The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the
>handling
>of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The
>critics
>could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more for
>Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to
>Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by
>providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds around
>the
>country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them computers for
>their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van
>(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own telecentres
>(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just a
>few
>of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
>University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to power.
>Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time in the
>history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is very
>unfair.
>
>
>
>
>tombong has given no update. he is only busy defending his murderer
>master.If not, how can he have all the press releases favourable to his
>master and not have the press release issued before the demonstrations
>threatening the students with what turned out to be death. After all he is
>head of Grts and no matter how clearly unfit he is he should at least have
>been capable of knowing that he only had to request for it from the
>newsroom for it to be brought to him. Or is he really that daft
But frankly we dont have much time to waste on tombong.
tombong has always been a YARLUWAAN{DEPENDENT}.So he must spend his life
praising his benefactors.
> All I can assure Gambians is that the truth will be proven
>incontrovertibly to all who want to see.
Meantime, Tombong should learn some English and spellings or go back to
school for he will soon be out of a job.
>
>
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Mr. Saidy,
I was totally confused when you mentioned in your report that "the President
practically formed GAMSU." Did you mean to say that he gave the organization
a lot of technical assistance? Because Yaya was a soldier when GAMSU actually
came into existence. The formation of Gambia Students' Union took a whole
weekend in 1991 at Gambia College, Brikama Campus. This student body replaced
the National Union of Gambian Students (NUGS). It was not an easy transition.
However, GAMSU should have never allowed to be fueled/fed by Yaya or his
government. They could have secured funds from other sources, for example,
NGOs, philanthropists and union dues (contributions by schools across the
country). Also, there are many Gambian organizations in Europe and North
America that will never be reluctant to accord the organization any
financial/technical assistance if they so request. If you live under
somebody's roof, you have a limited say in that house. However, one may also
contend that the students were wise enough to accept Yaya's offer, yet will
never tolerate to be puppets. Where did the cost of the van and computers
come from anyway? This should be an independent student organization. No
attempts should be made to politicize it. In a country like The Gambia, where
the vast majority of the populace are politically uneducated, student
organizations are very vital to literally fight for freedom and justice as
being evident in the past month and a half. So they should always safeguard
and maintain their neutrality.
S. S. Saidykhan
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From: Asbj=?ISO-8859-1?B?+A==?=rn Nordam <[log in to unmask]>
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Friends,
I=B4ve been out of the list since august and till one month ago. Back I=B4m so
sad about the latest news from the Gambia. I=B4m sorry to say that this is
something I expected could happen sooner or later. The lack of discipline
(several cases are reported on this Gambia-L) specially from authorities
sends "signals" through the society, that people in power can do whatever
they like, even take justice in their own hands, and nothing happens to
them. From the top of the society signals spreads that the strongest has th=
e
right, the uniform/the weapon speaks. They have misunderstood their mission=
,
they are there in the interest of the people, to help and serve the people,
not to oppress.
I was shocked when I got the information from our homeland Monday, and
started to call one of my friends, who I knew as a unionleader and active
student at GTTI, so I also expected him to be on the frontline. But first
Thursday I got life-signals and information. Due to my job I have been out
of list-contact from Tuesday morning until this morning, and running throug=
h
hundreds of letters took time. The information given by Mr. Tombong Saidy i=
s
the closest to the "facts" I got from my friend . My friend told me that
things ran out of control and suddenly there were burnings of firestation,
policestation, bank and other business-buildings, but he told me Thursday
that it was not ordered or inspired from the official student leaders.
It shows me, that the "hatred" is now coming to the surface of the Gambian
society. It is my own observation that the poorest are becoming poorer and
the richest are becoming richer. More and more families are depending on yo=
u
and help from outside just to survive the daily living costs. Few young
people are becoming aggressive and violent. They like many youth want to
address their anger, and I felt when I visited The Gambia in December, that
many blame the President and his party, the politicians, that their daily
life is so harsh.=20
The confrontation all over the country this week was a signal that I do hop=
e
the administration and the politicians learn from. I =B4m so sad that lives
were taken, I pray for their souls to rest in peace, and send my
condolences to all families, now we have the names.
I think that all the steps taken to demonstrate world-wide should continue.
I will ask the Gambian representative in Copenhagen Mr. Specht, what he
knows and will do. (He is also manager in Spies company). And I do hope tha=
t
international journalist and top-lawyers can be send to the Gambia to
investigate.
In Copenhagen some years back the police fired against a violent
demonstration and the cover up from the head of police-department, the
ministry of justice was very very difficult to break through. Only by good
help of journalists, and heavy pressure from the public kept the
investigation running, and led to dismissal of top ranking persons in
police-force, the ministry and even the government. But I feel that even so
we never got the truth. Let=B4s hope that the truth and justice will happen
in The Gambia, let=B4s get all information, let justice be heard. We owe that
to the young people who did the ultimate protest - they offered their lives=
.
With anger and grief
Asbj=F8rn Nordam
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Deyda and the HONEST DEDICATED PATRIOTIC folks of The Point Newspaper,
don't let the obstacles they place before you get you down. You have won
our admiration and total respect for bluntly stating the facts as they
happened. As you poignantly observed, if school kids can face hails of the
butchers' bullets, what about us elders. They can only kill us once and
Jannah awaits he who perseveres in seeking the truth and nothing but the
truth. Keep up the good work!
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In a message dated 15/04/00 09:17:01 GMT Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
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<< The student could have simply applied for a permit, and
they would have been given the permit. >>
Tombong,
How very convenient of you to utter and peddle these self serving
sanctimonious sermons on how your slaying of school kids could have been
avoided in the first place with hindsight knowing very well that it is the
inalienable rights of these youngsters to display their disgust with your
government and whilst focus is now being centred on why in the first place
these kids were never allowed to demonstrate peacefully with a permit? When
was the first time your government ever granted permit to any Civic
organisation to hold a peaceful demonstration? Could you please stop the
sententiousness and simplistic broadbrushing of the 10th. April slaying of
school kids by your security forces and start stating facts as they happened?
Your government is on the record as having the worst record of
accommodating dissent in the Sub Saharan Region. It is claptrap to hint that
these kids would have received their permits to hold their demo had they
applied for one. Infact the kids did explore all legal avenues that existed
within the ambits of the law to express their disgust with your government's
will'o' wisp attitude towards social justice. They have seen the Koro case;
the uncountable cases of people still crying for social justice whilst you
and your venerable president live in unimaginable luxury whilst the rest of
the country rots! Tombong the People are no fools and they can't take it no
more.
As I said to Essa Bokar Sey earlier this week, with respect to your ilk,
we will be preaching to the deaf about Jammeh's thuggery, criminality and
indecent handling of our State of affairs. The Gambia is fast sliding towards
the abyss. This is the unspinnable story. Gambians I spoke to all over the UK
are unanimous in their verdict that no blame should be shelved to unarmed
innocent school kids whose only crime is to show their disgust with your
government. And that it is the State security apparatus and by extension
those who gave the orders to shoot at the unarmed school kids who are
responsible for this blood letting orgy that ensued. As you come online with
your endless spins and massaging of the truth, just remember that posterity
will not look favourably on these events and those associated with it
especially those whose job it is now to disinform the general public.
As Bishop Butler once put it, things and events are what they are: why
then do we seek to be deceived. Tombong why do you seek to be deceived and in
reciprocation seek to deceive others about the events 10th. April, 2000? Just
remember that not all Gambians are the pollycock that your master Yaya Jammeh
is. Just keep posting those half-truths online, I will not relent in
shredding them into pieces and dump them into the dustbin of dialogue where
they duly deserve to be.
Till then be my guest and make my day with your spins and endless massaging
of the truth! Continue with this shameful charade of yours and watch me!
Hamjatta Kanteh
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Hi UK residents,
Would it be possible for someone else in the UK to open up an account
towards this
emergency fund? We could just then transfer the collected sum into the account
opened by
Mr Robinson. This way we would not have to individually pay charges in transferring
funds.
I just tried to transfer some money into Mr Robinson/Gambia-L's account in Germany,
but you will not believe the exorbitant charges.
I have only got 2 Bank accounts. The cheaper of the two charges is tabulated below,
and believe me, it's exorbitant.
Type of Transfer Amount Charge
Foreign Draft up to £25 £4 (the bank writes a cheque to the
foreign
bank in one's name,
give/send it to
the person and
he/she then posts it. This is
cheap but time
consuming, and not guaranteed
to get to the
recipient)
Telegraphic Transfer up to £2000 £17 (Direct transfer from one account
to another)
I asked to speak to the Bank manager, the request was granted. I told him about the
fund and that if
he could just waive the charges this time (I explained the unfortunate incident back
home). But just
as only bank managers know how to, he said how sad he is about the situation, and
blah, blah,
BUT NO he cannot waive the charges.
Not intended to undermine the good and patriotic work done by Mr Robinson in anyway,
just thought it might make economical sense!
Dave
Alpha Robinson wrote:
> Gambia-L,
>
> I was briefly away for the last two days. Actually I took Thursday and Friday
> off from work to have more time to digest, think and act, but I had to attend to
> duties which suddenly came up with immediate urgency.
>
> First of all, those in Europe may send contributions to the following account:
>
> Outside Germany:
> Bank: Volksbank Hoexter-Beverungen
> Acount holder: Robinson/Gambia-L
> Swift code: Geno DEMS
> Acount #: DE35472624062040218900
>
> Within Germany:
> Bank: Volksbank Hoexter-Beverungen
> Konto Inhaber: Robinson/Gambia-L
> Kto #: 2040218900
> BLZ: 47262406
>
> I preferred using Gambia-L alone as the holder, but German bureaucracy is
> sometimes not too easy to beat, so we settled for a compromise. In accordance,
> with Buharry's proposal, I'll also provide receipts for any payments into the
> account. I was thinking that once we have the website done, the state of the
> account can be regularly posted there for transparency's sake. In the meantime,
> updates will be sent to The L.
>
> Soffie Ceesay, I hope you went ahead with the printing of Cry Not Mama. Anyone
> who wishes to use my Poems in a positive way should feel free to do so.
>
> Yankuba Njie, please add me to the list of signatories. My messages to you keep
> bouncing back.
>
> Concerning the Website, it is a positive sign to see so many volunteers and host
> offers. My opinion on this is that while working on a team to prepare The
> Website, other efforts can run parallel. Since George Sarr is already working on
> something for Gambiansonline.com and is coming in with lots of experience to
> offer, I think he should not join the Team, use some of the materials he has
> from Gambiansonline.com for The Site and vice versa. Based on the Slogan "One
> Struggle many Fronts" we can have Sites featuring similar themes. Each Site will
> be an additional enrichment. We may even provide materials for anyone wishing to
> promote our course as long as the rules are clear. I also think that we should
> start with the resources available now and try to get better with time. Kartim
> made some brilliant suggestions on the nitty-gritty of the project.
> George Sarr's statement "Am not sure if you guys made any decisions yet..."
> gives the impression that there are some guys making the decisions. As far as I
> know, the decisions are being made as we discuss on the L. I mention this simply
> to avoid any misunderstanding. The way I feel about the fighting spirit in the
> L, can be compared to a "Mongolian hot pot" where everyone sitting around the
> fire adds something raw to the pot full of boiling water and fishes out
> something cooked, leaving a delicious soup to be shared at the end by everyone.
> The more people there are adding ingredients to the pot, the tastier it becomes.
>
> I'll now take some rest.
>
> Good night everybody.
>
> Alpha Robinson
>
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Hi UK residents,
<br> Would it be possible for
someone else in the UK to open up an account towards this
<br>emergency fund? We could just then transfer the collected sum into
the account opened by
<br>Mr Robinson. This way we would not have to individually pay charges
in transferring funds.
<p>I just tried to transfer some money into Mr Robinson/Gambia-L's account
in Germany,
<br>but you will not believe the exorbitant charges.
<p>I have only got 2 Bank accounts. The cheaper of the two charges is tabulated
below,
<br>and believe me, it's exorbitant.
<p><u>Type of Transfer Amount
Charge</u>
<br>Foreign Draft
up to £25
£4 (the bank writes a cheque to the foreign
<br>
bank in one's name, give/send it to
<br>
the person and he/she then posts it. This is
<br>
cheap but time consuming, and not guaranteed
<br>
to get to the recipient)
<br>Telegraphic Transfer up to £2000
£17 (Direct transfer from one account to another)
<p>I asked to speak to the Bank manager, the request was granted. I told
him about the fund and that if
<br>he could just waive the charges this time (I explained the unfortunate
incident back home). But just
<br>as only bank managers know how to, he said how sad he is about the
situation, and blah, blah,
<br>BUT NO he cannot waive the charges.
<p>Not intended to undermine the good and patriotic work done by Mr Robinson
in anyway,
<br>just thought it might make economical sense!
<p>Dave
<br>
<p>Alpha Robinson wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Gambia-L,
<p>I was briefly away for the last two days. Actually I took Thursday and
Friday
<br>off from work to have more time to digest, think and act, but I had
to attend to
<br>duties which suddenly came up with immediate urgency.
<p>First of all, those in Europe may send contributions to the following
account:
<p>Outside Germany:
<br>Bank:
Volksbank Hoexter-Beverungen
<br>Acount holder: Robinson/Gambia-L
<br>Swift code: Geno DEMS
<br>Acount #: DE35472624062040218900
<p>Within Germany:
<br>Bank:
Volksbank Hoexter-Beverungen
<br>Konto Inhaber: Robinson/Gambia-L
<br>Kto #:
2040218900
<br>BLZ:
47262406
<p>I preferred using Gambia-L alone as the holder, but German bureaucracy
is
<br>sometimes not too easy to beat, so we settled for a compromise. In
accordance,
<br>with Buharry's proposal, I'll also provide receipts for any payments
into the
<br>account. I was thinking that once we have the website done, the state
of the
<br>account can be regularly posted there for transparency's sake. In the
meantime,
<br>updates will be sent to The L.
<p>Soffie Ceesay, I hope you went ahead with the printing of Cry Not Mama.
Anyone
<br>who wishes to use my Poems in a positive way should feel free to do
so.
<p>Yankuba Njie, please add me to the list of signatories. My messages
to you keep
<br>bouncing back.
<p>Concerning the Website, it is a positive sign to see so many volunteers
and host
<br>offers. My opinion on this is that while working on a team to prepare
The
<br>Website, other efforts can run parallel. Since George Sarr is already
working on
<br>something for Gambiansonline.com and is coming in with lots of experience
to
<br>offer, I think he should not join the Team, use some of the materials
he has
<br>from Gambiansonline.com for The Site and vice versa. Based on the Slogan
"One
<br>Struggle many Fronts" we can have Sites featuring similar themes. Each
Site will
<br>be an additional enrichment. We may even provide materials for anyone
wishing to
<br>promote our course as long as the rules are clear. I also think that
we should
<br>start with the resources available now and try to get better with time.
Kartim
<br>made some brilliant suggestions on the nitty-gritty of the project.
<br>George Sarr's statement "Am not sure if you guys made any decisions
yet..."
<br>gives the impression that there are some guys making the decisions.
As far as I
<br>know, the decisions are being made as we discuss on the L. I mention
this simply
<br>to avoid any misunderstanding. The way I feel about the fighting spirit
in the
<br>L, can be compared to a "Mongolian hot pot" where everyone sitting
around the
<br>fire adds something raw to the pot full of boiling water and fishes
out
<br>something cooked, leaving a delicious soup to be shared at the end
by everyone.
<br>The more people there are adding ingredients to the pot, the tastier
it becomes.
<p>I'll now take some rest.
<p>Good night everybody.
<p>Alpha Robinson
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Gambia-L,
I am forwarding these extracts to the L from one of my sources in the
Gambia.
Ebrima Ceesay
Tombong Saidy: Do you think people now take you seriously having already
made a fool of yourself with your shallow analysis of the Senegalese
Elections in which you stated categorically that Abdou Diouf will win the
elections?
My brother, just send your PROPAGANDA version to the L, and allow me, as
well, to send my version and then it would be up to the people to believe
whichever version they want to believe.
Do you think people like me believed the Government when it said that only
12 were killed? Anyway, I'll deal with you when I do some analysis for the L
on the situation back home.
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Ebrima,
The atmosphere is still tense despite the calmness on the surface. As
reported yesterday, the various branches of the security forces continue to
point fingers at each other.
The pressure can be seen in their faces; a pressure they have never
experienced before and never thought possible. To illustrate the point, now
two soldiers (instead of the usual one or a policeman)have
been assigned to each Secretary of State.
The performance of the Secretaries of State day before yesterday, during
their press conference, says it all. Each and every one of them had a
version different from the other, as if they were not recounting the same
event.
In fact, I'll send you a copy of the video cassette capturing the rioting
and you can distribute it to Human rights groups if they have not yet
received it. The video, though recorded by the security forces for their own
keeping, tells a very tragic story or in other words, shows how brutal these
Jammeh thugs are.
The "Point's" editorial on Thursday, a two-page editorial expressed the
desire of the population which pleaded with the VP referred to as our "Dear
sister" to resign. She has let the entire Gambian people down. We should say
a big THANK YOU to "The Point"
With another Paper like it, there will be no need for people like me to be
filing these Up-dates. FOROYAA has also done a magnificent job on the the
tragic events of 10 April.
I understand (but I am yet to confirm it) that President Jammeh arrived
early this morning, stopping over in Dakar. Anyway, as I am sending you this
update, he is definitely nowhere to be found in the country.
What I do know for a fact is that the a section of the NIA was of the view
that he should return to the country unannounced or secretly, admitting that
contrary what they are saying, things are still not under control in the
country.
The students are planning another demonstration on Monday; but this too I
cannot confirm. I tried snooping around the Police Station to see if an
application for such a protest has been filed, without success. I'll tell
something definite later.
By the way, the UDP has issued a statement condemning the actions of the
security forces. An emergency meeting of the Party Executive is planned for
today. Just keep on the pressure. You people on the Internet have been very
effective. Don't you see they have started releasing the dead bodies
following reports on the Net that they were decomposing.
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Hamjatta,
You are right, as i told you yesterday they are busy trying to get everyone
dance their tune. Bravo the POINT TEAM!. Keep up the good work.
Ziz
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> Deyda and the HONEST DEDICATED PATRIOTIC folks of The Point Newspaper,
> don't let the obstacles they place before you get you down. You have
won
> our admiration and total respect for bluntly stating the facts as they
> happened. As you poignantly observed, if school kids can face hails of the
> butchers' bullets, what about us elders. They can only kill us once and
> Jannah awaits he who perseveres in seeking the truth and nothing but the
> truth. Keep up the good work!
>
> Hamjatta Kanteh
>
> hkanteh
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Mr EB,
Your attempts to absolve Tombong of any wrong doing and even daring to
assert that he is only doing his job by serving us the mumbo-jumbo
disinformation he has been peddling, is akin to saying that the security
forces who opened fire on harmless unarmed school were just doing their jobs
because they were ordered to do so by higher authority. What has happened to
individual conscience? How can we keep faulting these Paramilitary forces
whilst seeing nothing wrong with the equally callous attempts by civilians to
perversely distort the reality on the ground just because their masters
ordered them to do as such?
please please lets concentrate our mental, physical and spiritual
resources towards the collective and concerted conscience and efforts of
peacefully ejecting Jammeh and whatever he stands up for out of our body
polity. These endless nitpicking and squabbling would only serve the dictator
in Kanilai and very deviationist indeed.
Good morning
Hamjatta Kanteh
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Dave Manneh,
once again thanks for the update and the suggestions. i think the best
put plan would be to use one account here (preferably a current account- even
if it means one individual's existing account; i can volunteer mine) where
all Gambian UK residents and concerned friends of the Gambia would donate
whatever they can afford. what do you think? also just to inform you, today i
will be having series of meetings with Gambians in the Slough area. i will
bring to their attention the developments so far.
thanks for your attention
Hamjatta
hkanteh
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Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 15:35:43 +0300
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Hello Brother,
It will be quite appreciated reading my article once again to come to
sense.I was and still a student and well aware of the cruelity by the
armed force to killing our future leaders, who knows maybe my own could be
among the deads or wounded.But that will not force me to insult or attack
innocent individuals. This is quite wrong. I don't know these people and
have never meet them, then again they are brother and should treated like
one of us. In this way, unity will prevail. We need democracy to help
sustaining economy,therefore, it should favouring all Gambians not certain
groups against the other like white people did.
It is good that Tobong and mister ambassador take these post then the
military personnel,they therefore diserve respect, moreover they join us
us on the list to share their love for the Gambia and it people whereever
they are, and this is what we are paying them, this is a shame.It is
certain to you people that if Tobong and Mr Ambassador refuses the posts
that will pave the way for entire military control.
we can work things out within our selve peacefully. voilent is not the
solution to any problem, It was voilence in the gambia 10th and 11th/4/00
which resulted to our mourning today, yet the same voilence is taking as a
tool to solve this problem. Please let us try and unite ourselves here in
this very forum, abide by rules that we agree on.If this goes well in this
forum then there could be hope to next generation of Gambians. I know
truth is painful but it will have to prevail anyway.
Thanks, PEACE TO EVERY ONE WITH EQUAL TREATMENT AND LOVE TO ONE AND OTHER.
__________________________________________________________________
EDI LK SIDIBEH NAAKANTIE 2C9
DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS & ADMINISTRATION 48320 KOTKA
KYMENLAAKSO POLYTECHNIQUE
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PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh wrote:
> Edi Sidibeh:
> With due respect, I found your senseless article irritating. At this moment,
> we are all grieving. It is not proper to question whether antagonists of the
> dictatorship are God-fearing. The Gambia has lost intellectual property that
> is irreplaceable. No one knows whether one of these school kids could have
> been our savior tomorrow.
>
> Please avoid questioning whether critics are God-fearing. Our responsibility
> is for a better Gambia. Every Gambian is affected by the tragic turn of
> events in our country. I have problems sleeping and I'm constantly thinking
> about the families of those innocent children. Their pain cannot be
> measured. We are one family. Please let us mourn.
>
> Comrade,
>
> MLJ Conteh
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Tombong did a good job of providing names for the grim statistics we already
knew existed. But that was about all I could stand in his analysis of what he
thought transpired. The insidiousness of it all was breathtaking. To hear Mr
Saidy say it, his benevolent President who gave this and that to the students
and was pretty miffed they would in the end provoke him to have to murder
them!!.List members, this kind of evil rationalization is intolerable. He
asked and answered the only relevant question of this entire massacre and
that is the use of live ammunition. Even Tombong Saidy couldn't swallow the
Interior secretary and vice President's bogus contention that the security
forces used blanks or rubber bullets or the much more perverse assertion that
the students were shooting at them. The frontal injuries of the murdered
students and the total absence of any gunshot victim amongst the security
forces only points to one scenario; peaceful demonstrators were mowed down in
a hail of bullets. I don't care what Cheyasin Secka says, any 'investigation'
that has anything to do with this government would fail in two major aspects:
it would not be thorough nor truthful. All they are interested in is to
concoct an elaborate ruse that is designed to reinforce the lies the entire
cabinet is now busy peddling. The good people of our country would never
ever countenance a version of events that does not categorically say the
state through it's agents of repression committed mass murder. The
responsibility for these barbaric crimes lie squarely in the hands of the
President, his cabinet and chain of command. Any redress for the crimes must
begin with this premise. The fact that some branch of the security services
would want to blame the other branch is Yahya Jammeh and his cabinet's issue
to deal with since the hail of bullets came with no service signature on it.
It is just sickening that someone would consider interpreting the
sequence of events in any other way besides the very obvious way.
Karamba
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Mr Kanteh,
That sounds good. Keep me posted on the outcome of your meeting
in Slough. I am off to Portsmouth to meet some Gambian Students too.
I have also brought to the attention of the NUS, the rescheduling of the demo.
And as it so happens, that suits them even better, for they will be able to
contact
more SUs around the country.
The guy to contact if any of you so wish is Mr Brookes Duke,
he looks after the Black affairs of the NUS. He also shares his office with Mr
Darko
Oladapojibola. The # for Duke's office is 0171-2493164.
Jules Mason will be talking to the executive of the NUS UK & Ireland at their
annual conference in Wales this weekend. Mr Mason can be reached on his
mobile on 070-5000-84418
Lets see what Mr Ceesay and the rest of the UK crew suggest with regards to
using a UK account. It will solve a lot of logistical problems for sure.
All the best
Manneh
Hamjatta Kanteh wrote:
> Dave Manneh,
> once again thanks for the update and the suggestions. i think the best
> put plan would be to use one account here (preferably a current account- even
> if it means one individual's existing account; i can volunteer mine) where
> all Gambian UK residents and concerned friends of the Gambia would donate
> whatever they can afford. what do you think? also just to inform you, today i
> will be having series of meetings with Gambians in the Slough area. i will
> bring to their attention the developments so far.
> thanks for your attention
> Hamjatta
>
> hkanteh
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Friends:
As I post herewith Sir Dawda's condolence letter he had sent to the Gambian
press for publication, I want to state few words of my own in the light of
the tragic events of April 10, in our home land. Clearly, enough
condemnation of the massacre of school pupils by the security forces of the
Jammeh regime is appropriately been registered by others and, any attempt by
me to add on to that would be superfluous.
To the families of all the victims of this senseless tragedy, I AM SORRY. I
wish I were there to attend the funerals and convey my condolence in person,
but as R. W. Emerson put it "The chief mourner does not always attend the
funeral." May Allah reward them Jannah.
Musa Bassadi Jawara.
Sir Dawda's message is as follows:
I would like to convey my deepest sympathy to the parents, relatives, and
friends of the school children killed by the security forces of the Jammeh
regime, a regime known for its murderous tendencies in the past. For the
armed forces to use live ammunition to mow down some 20 young Gambians
demonstrating peacefully their legitimate grievances is an act of abject
barbarity and is absolutely inexcusable. The President should bring the
killings immediately to a halt and allow parents and relatives of the
children killed to recover the bodies without hinderance, for decent burial.
May the souls of the dead rest in peace and may Allah the Almighty comfort
the bereaved and help them sustain their grievous, irreplaceable loss. My
sympathy also goes to the parents, relatives, and friends of Omar Barrow of
Sud FM who was reportedly shot dead inside the Red Cross Headquarters in
Kanifing while attending to the wounded. May his soul rest in peace.
To the scores of young people wounded in the carnage, I express my sympathy
and wish them all a speedy recovery.
Dawda Kairaba Jawara
Former President of The Gambia
04/13/2000
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Tombong,
I am extremely sorry that I asked you for information about the =
happenings of 10th April. I did not know that you were abroad, however, =
I am none the wiser now that I have read your piece. I was more =
expecting something more objective but your gist, with the exception of =
the names of those murdered and wounded, is merely an echo of what we =
already heard from Badgie and that woman.=20
Your attempt to apportion blame on Radio 1 FM and Radio Sud for =
"fuelling" the flame is contradictory to your earlier statement that =
"The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the =
constitutional right to demonstrate peacefully". I believe these =
stations have done more to inform the people about the events on such a =
doleful day, than the report that your TV station was engaged in =
entertainment and trivia on the very day innocent students were =
butchered.
Tombong, may I remind you that from colonial days to the days of Jawara, =
students have always been voicing out their dislikes, but never before =
were they confronted by such brutes. Your portrayal of GAMSU as the =
cause of the carnage is really an abuse to our intelligence. Your report =
sounds more like that of a man on the ground on that fateful day, but =
you landed in the Gambia four days after the massacre. What you gave us =
is a mere hearsay. Probably, you have been listening too much to Badgie =
and that woman.
I do respect your admiration of Jammeh for what he had done for the =
Gambian youth. Such admiration will one day earn you a position of =
S.O.S. But one thing you have to bear in mind is the people's =
determination to see to it that "Yaya Must Go" and Go he will.
Give my regards to the boys. Tell Limba that I call aunty Awa 2 weeks =
ago but he was not around. My regards also to Kebba Jobe.
Prince Coker (Sloans)
----- Original Message -----=20
From: TOMBONG SAIDY=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 10:16 AM
Subject: UPDATE
Gambia-l,
As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after which =
I will
give my analysis of the whole situation.
NUMBER OF DECEASED
According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were received =
at
around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96 =
patients
seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 =
from
Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have =
been
discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central =
Division
area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported =
from
Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies =
were
identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one =
unidentified
body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
DECEASED REGISTERED
# NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding =
---------------
9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra Leonean
11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
12. Unidentified Teenager
Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay=92s source, the bodies are being released as
relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there was =
no
order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be kept =
until
the President=92s return. Ebrima=92s source also claimed that there =
are =9314
confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could =
you
please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names of =
the
remaining two death bodies.
PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline Comprehensive
4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau Station
11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema Kunku)
12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
New Jeshwang)
13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline Comprehensive
15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo Town
17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe
20. Sana Bojang Civilian New Jeshwang
21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High School
22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine=92s H. School
25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
TOTAL 128 Cases
The above were treated and released.
PRESS RELEASE
As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competing,
principles:
i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to =
answer for
it;
ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair =
hearing.
The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later =
convicted
if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the =
Department
of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role =
outlined
above.
In line with the Government=92s commitment to the principles of =
transparency
and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must =
not only
be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers =
under
section 11(1) of the Coroner=92s Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an =
inquest
be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the events =
of
the 10th and 11th April 2000.
The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not =
an
offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be =
filed in
the course of next week.
In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice =
system is
itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal =
Procedure
Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends =
of
justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers, =
(both
at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of =
the
alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
The Attorney General=92s Chambers will provide logical support; but =
will
otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of =
local a
prosecutor.
As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General=92s Chambers is =
handicapped by
the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
Attorney General & Secretary of State
For Justice
Attorney General=92s Chambers &
Department of State for Justice
Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
Banjul
13 April, 2000
Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take on =
this
whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both =
sides of
the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The =
Gambia,
surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 =96 the KUKOI FIASCO. =
I join
all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to the
families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad event =
that
could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the =
constitutional
right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there are =
laws
and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from a =
given
authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a permit
according to the authorities. The Department of State for the Interior =
sent
a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses including =
GRTS
claiming that they have received information on a potential strike =
being
organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to seek
permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of me, =
so I
am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a permit, =
and
they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunday =
April
9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of =
States
and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU =
Executive
to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since =
the
President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the =
Executive
from the GTTI to StateHouse.
On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of State =
for
the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and to =
escort
them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It was =
during
this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some =
GAMSU
Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various =
reasons.
While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were =
negotiating,
some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into =
GTTI. The
Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell =
broke
loose. I believe the security should and could have contained things =
and
this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were =
emanating
from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out =
numbered the
police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI, =
students
began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, Brikama
Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and =
everything
within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the =
majority
of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some non-students
seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot, =
destroy
private and public properties, banks etc.
The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place. =
Soldiers
came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed, =
prisoners
were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police and =
the
armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and =
individuals,
mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fact =
some
civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody.
Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths and
injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about who =
stated
the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sate =
for
the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets. =
The
Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event =
will
verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is =
that not
single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed =
students
were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to =
do.
The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank =
of
Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were =
generally
done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own =
ends. A
lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this =
whole
fiasco.
Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with =
their
phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their =
action
has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a =
phone
in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good =
idea.
All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being =
said
over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the =
phone-in
programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the =
security.
The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went =
beyond
their control when other non-students joined in. The security was ill
prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the =
handling
of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The =
critics
could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more =
for
Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to
Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by
providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds =
around the
country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them =
computers for
their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van
(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own =
telecentres
(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just =
a few
of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to =
power.
Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time =
in the
history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is very
unfair.
PEACE
Tombong
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tombong,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am extremely sorry that I asked you =
for=20
information about the happenings of 10th April. I did not know that you =
were=20
abroad, however, I am none the wiser now that I have read your piece. I =
was more=20
expecting something more objective but your gist, with the exception of =
the=20
names of those murdered and wounded, is merely an echo of what we =
already heard=20
from Badgie and that woman. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your attempt to apportion blame on =
Radio 1 FM and=20
Radio Sud for "fuelling" the flame is contradictory to your earlier =
statement=20
that "The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the=20
constitutional right to demonstrate peacefully". I believe these =
stations have=20
done more to inform the people about the events on such a doleful day, =
than the=20
report that your TV station was engaged in entertainment and trivia on =
the very=20
day innocent students were butchered.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tombong, may I remind you that from =
colonial days=20
to the days of Jawara, students have always been voicing out their =
dislikes, but=20
never before were they confronted by such brutes. Your portrayal of =
GAMSU as the=20
cause of the carnage is really an abuse to our intelligence. Your report =
sounds=20
more like that of a man on the ground on that fateful day, but you =
landed in the=20
Gambia four days after the massacre. What you gave us is a mere hearsay. =
Probably, you have been listening too much to Badgie and that=20
woman.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I do respect your admiration of Jammeh =
for what he=20
had done for the Gambian youth. Such admiration will one day earn you a =
position=20
of S.O.S. But one thing you have to bear in mind is the people's =
determination=20
to see to it that "<FONT color=3D#ff0000>Yaya Must Go</FONT>" and Go he=20
will.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Give my regards to the boys. Tell Limba =
that I call=20
aunty Awa 2 weeks ago but he was not around. My regards also to Kebba=20
Jobe.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Prince Coker (Sloans)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
[log in to unmask]>TOMBONG=20
SAIDY</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
=
[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 15, 2000 =
10:16=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> UPDATE</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Gambia-l,<BR><BR>As I promised, I would provide =
information on=20
the ground, after which I will<BR>give my analysis of the whole=20
situation.<BR><BR>NUMBER OF DECEASED<BR><BR>According to the =
authorities at=20
RVH, the first patients were received at<BR>around 11:00 A.M. on =
Monday, 10=20
April 2000. There was a total of 96 patients<BR>seen and all were =
treated=20
accordingly with a total admission of 28 from<BR>Greater Banjul area =
and 3=20
from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have been<BR>discharged leaving a =
balance=20
of 20. With regards to the Central Division<BR>area (Bansang Hospital) =
there=20
were seven reported cases.<BR><BR>The total number of death recorded =
in RVH=20
were 11 and one reported from<BR>Bansang Hospital giving a total death =
toll of=20
12. So far 11 bodies were<BR>identified including the one from =
Bansang. There=20
is still one unidentified<BR>body at the RVH, that of a young male=20
teenager.<BR><BR>DECEASED=20
REGISTERED<BR><BR># =20
NAME =
AGE PROF. =20
ADD/SCH. =20
NATLTY<BR><BR>1. Gibi=20
Njie =
- =20
Student Nusrat =20
Gambian<BR>2. Karamo Barrow =20
24 Student ICE=20
H.S =20
Gambian<BR>3. Mohamed L. Chune=20
15 Student LK=20
School =20
Gambian<BR>4. Lamin A Bojang =20
19 Student=20
Nusrat =20
Gambian<BR>5. Ousman=20
Sabally Student=20
Brikamaba =20
Gambian<BR>6. Omar=20
Barrow 25 Journalist =20
Latrikunda =20
Gambian<BR>7. Ablie=20
Sajaw 3 Child N.=20
Jeshwang Prsume=20
Gambian<BR>8. Bubacar Badgie =20
10 Student=20
Talingding =20
---------------<BR>9. Calisco =
Prera =20
20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not=20
Gambian<BR>10. Reginald Carrol=20
25 Student 7 Grand =
St. =20
Sierra Leonean<BR>11. Wuyeh Mansally =20
19 Student=20
Talingding =20
Senegalese<BR>12. =20
=
Unidentified &=
nbsp; =20
Teenager<BR><BR>Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay=92s source, the bodies are =
being=20
released as<BR>relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies =
and=20
there was no<BR>order from President Jammeh or any one else for the =
bodies to=20
be kept until<BR>the President=92s return. Ebrima=92s source also =
claimed that=20
there are =9314<BR>confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not =
true. Ebrima,=20
could you<BR>please asked your source or any body else to come up with =
the=20
names of the<BR>remaining two death bodies.<BR><BR>PATIENTS ADMITTED =
IN=20
=
RVH<BR><BR>NAME &nbs=
p; =20
=
PROFESSION &nb=
sp; =20
ADDRESS/SCHOOL<BR><BR>1. Allasan Suwareh =
=
Student =
=20
Banjul Academy<BR>2. Musa=20
Sembeh 3 yrs old =
child Serrekunda<BR>3. =
Yusupha=20
Mbye =20
=
Student =
=20
Pipeline Comprehensive<BR>4. Francis=20
Correa =20
=
Businessman &n=
bsp; =20
Serrekunda<BR>5. Pa Demba Camara =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
Kanifing<BR>6. Seeday=20
Jobe =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
Senegalese<BR>7. Bakary Singateh =20
=
Civilian  =
; =20
Latrikunda Sabiji<BR>8. Ousman Jobarteh =20
=
Student =
=20
Sepps<BR>9. Sering Ceesay =
Civilian=20
non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)<BR>10. Yankuba=20
Darboe Fire=20
=
Officer =
=20
Bakau Station<BR>11. Pa Ansu Jarjue =20
=
Student =
=20
Forsters (Nema Kunku)<BR>12. Lamin=20
Touray Civilian, ex =
GHS Brufut=20
(now residing=20
=
at<BR><BR> &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p;  =
; =20
New Jeshwang)<BR>13. Momodou Ceesay =20
=
Trader &=
nbsp; =20
Dippakunda<BR>14. Bakary =
Njie =20
=
Student =
=20
Pipeline Comprehensive<BR>15. Wuyeh=20
Fatty Arabic=20
Student =
Talinding<BR>16.=20
Baba Suwareh =20
=
Student =
=20
Crab Island/ Ebo Town<BR>17. John=20
Gomez =20
=
Student =
=20
GTTI / Ebo Town<BR>18. Omar=20
Sosseh =20
Student St. A.H.S/ New =
Primet=20
St<BR>19. Sulayman Krubally =20
=
Student =
=20
GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe<BR>20. Sana=20
Bojang =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
New Jeshwang<BR>21. Haddy =
Camara =20
=
Student =
=20
Ebeneezer High School<BR>22. Sainabou Camara =20
=
Student =
=20
Bakoteh High School<BR>23. Abdou Karim Janneh =20
=
Student =
=20
Sheikh Mass Kah<BR>24. Francis =
Mendy =20
Student St. =
Agustine=92s H.=20
School<BR>25. Alasan Jammeh =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
Talingding<BR>26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office =
Brikama<BR>27.=20
Oumie Jagne =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
Kanifing<BR>28. Amie=20
Jagne =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
Kanifing<BR>29. Baboucarr Bahoum =20
=
Student =
=20
Essau High School<BR>30. S.=20
Senghore =20
=
Student =
=20
Essau High School<BR>31. Modou=20
Joof =20
=
Student =
=20
Essau High School<BR><BR>REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & =
WD<BR><BR>Serrekunda=20
Health=20
=
Centre &=
nbsp; =20
79 Cases<BR>Brikama Health=20
=
Centre &=
nbsp; =20
31 Cases<BR>Fagi-Kunda Health=20
=
Centre &=
nbsp; =20
8 Cases<BR>Bakau Health=20
=
Centre &=
nbsp; =20
10=20
=
Cases<BR><BR>TOTAL &=
nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nb=
sp;=20
128 Cases<BR><BR>The above were treated and released.<BR><BR><BR>PRESS =
RELEASE<BR><BR>As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, =
it is=20
my<BR>constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often=20
competing,<BR>principles:<BR><BR>i. the need to ensure that anyone who =
breaks=20
the law is called to answer for<BR>it;<BR><BR>ii. and that in so doing =
the=20
accused person must be accorded a fair hearing.<BR><BR>The latter =
means that=20
the accused can only be arrested and later convicted<BR>if there is =
sufficient=20
evidence to warrant it.<BR><BR>The sad events of the last few days =
deserve a=20
response from the Department<BR>of State for Justice in line with the =
dual=20
constitutional role outlined<BR>above.<BR><BR>In line with the =
Government=92s=20
commitment to the principles of transparency<BR>and accountability, =
and having=20
regard to the fact that justice must not only<BR>be done, but it must =
be seen=20
to be done, I have invoked my powers under<BR>section 11(1) of the =
Coroner=92s=20
Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is<BR>simultaneously being lodged =
with the=20
Chief Justice to order that an inquest<BR>be held touching on the =
death of any=20
persons as a result of the events of<BR>the 10th and 11th April=20
2000.<BR><BR>The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish =
whether or=20
not an<BR>offence has been committed by any person, known or=20
unknown.<BR><BR>As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an =
information=20
will be filed in<BR>the course of next week.<BR><BR>In view of the =
fact that=20
the credibility of our criminal justice system is<BR>itself on trial, =
the=20
Attorney General will take the unusual step of<BR>appointing a Public=20
Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal Procedure<BR>Code. The =
Gambia Bar=20
Association, the family of the deceased, friends of<BR>justice (at =
home or=20
abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers, (both<BR>at home and =
abroad)=20
who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of the<BR>alleged =
murders of=20
Ebrima Barry.<BR><BR>The Attorney General=92s Chambers will provide =
logical=20
support; but will<BR>otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the=20
prosecutor.<BR><BR>The State will, however only be responsible for =
meeting the=20
cost of local a<BR>prosecutor.<BR><BR>As for the case of Binta, the =
Attorney=20
General=92s Chambers is handicapped by<BR>the absence of =
identification of the=20
alleged culprits.<BR><BR><BR>Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka<BR>Attorney =
General=20
& Secretary of State<BR>For Justice<BR><BR>Attorney General=92s =
Chambers=20
&<BR>Department of State for Justice<BR>Maummar Ghadaffi=20
Avenue<BR>Banjul<BR><BR>13 April, 2000<BR><BR><BR><BR>Above are the =
facts from=20
official sources, however I have my take on this<BR>whole issue. Since =
my=20
arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both sides of<BR>the fence and =
believe=20
me there are a lot of blame to go around.<BR><BR>April 10th 2000 is =
one of the=20
darkest day in the history of The Gambia,<BR>surpassed only by the =
events of=20
July 31st, 1981 =96 the KUKOI FIASCO. I join<BR>all members of the =
list to=20
express my sympathy and condolence to the<BR>families, friend, and =
loved ones=20
of the bereaved. This is a sad event that<BR>could have been avoided =
both by=20
the Security and the Students.<BR><BR>The Gambia is a democratic =
country and=20
the students have the constitutional<BR>right to demonstrate =
peacefully.=20
However, in every democracy there are laws<BR>and all demonstrators =
must seek=20
or obtain some form of permit from a given<BR>authority, usually the =
local=20
police. GAMSU never applied for a permit<BR>according to the =
authorities. The=20
Department of State for the Interior sent<BR>a press release on Friday =
April=20
7, 2000 to all media houses including GRTS<BR>claiming that they have =
received=20
information on a potential strike being<BR>organised by the Student =
Union=20
(GAMSU). They warned students to seek<BR>permission and that the =
security will=20
not take any unauthorised<BR>demonstration lightly (I do not have the =
press=20
release in front of me, so I<BR>am paraphrasing) . The student could =
have=20
simply applied for a permit, and<BR>they would have been given the =
permit. On=20
Saturday April 8 and Sunday April<BR>9, some members of the GAMSU =
Executive=20
met with some Secretaries of States<BR>and discussed the whole matter. =
There=20
was an agreement for GAMSU Executive<BR>to meet with the Vice =
President at=20
9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since the<BR>President will not in the =
country.=20
They demanded an escort for the Executive<BR>from the GTTI to=20
StateHouse.<BR><BR>On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the=20
Secretary of State for<BR>the Interior went to GTTI for further =
discuss with=20
the student and to escort<BR>them to Banjul for the agreed meeting =
with the=20
Vice President. It was during<BR>this time that things started to get =
out of=20
hand. Apparently some GAMSU<BR>Executives were reluctant to go to the =
said=20
meeting for various reasons.<BR><BR>While the Chief of Staff and =
Secretary of=20
State Badgie were negotiating,<BR>some GAMSU Members started forcing =
students=20
from school buses into GTTI. The<BR>Police Intervention Unit came with =
batons=20
and shields and all hell broke<BR>loose. I believe the security should =
and=20
could have contained things and<BR>this would have limited the damaged =
done.=20
The demonstrations were emanating<BR>from different fronts and in most =
places=20
the demonstrators out numbered the<BR>police and the Intervention =
Unit. While=20
commotion ensued at GTTI, students<BR>began attacking Kotu Police and =
Fire=20
Station, Bundung Police, Brikama<BR>Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West =
Field=20
Gamtel, Standard Bank and everything<BR>within their reach that is =
identified=20
with Government. However, the majority<BR>of the students wanted a =
peaceful=20
demonstration, but some non-students<BR>seized the opportunity brought =
by the=20
chaotic situation to loot, destroy<BR>private and public properties, =
banks=20
etc.<BR><BR>The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken =
place.=20
Soldiers<BR>came armed, however when the police stations were being =
destroyed,=20
prisoners<BR>were released in the process, especially at the =
Serrekunda Police=20
and the<BR>armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and=20
individuals,<BR>mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a =
matter=20
of fact some<BR>civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are =
under=20
custody.<BR><BR>Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number =
of=20
deaths and<BR>injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter =
claims about=20
who stated<BR>the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The =
Secretary of=20
Sate for<BR>the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used =
live=20
bullets. The<BR>Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to =
investigate this=20
event will<BR>verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole =
matter=20
is that not<BR>single security official was reported shot while a lot =
of=20
unarmed students<BR>were shot and brutally killed. The security has a =
lot=20
explaining to do.<BR><BR>The attacking of the Standard Bank at West =
Field,=20
International Bank of<BR>Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops =
and=20
supermarkets were generally<BR>done by criminal elements who join the=20
demonstration for their own ends. A<BR>lot of foreigners and =
non-students were=20
reported to be part of this whole<BR>fiasco.<BR><BR>Radio 1 FM, Sud FM =
and=20
even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with their<BR>phone-in =
programmes.=20
Instead they added fuel to the fire and their action<BR>has caused =
more havoc=20
than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a phone<BR>in programme =
for=20
every side to be venting their anger was not a good idea.<BR>All sorts =
of=20
things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being said<BR>over =
the air=20
and that was why they were all ordered to stop the =
phone-in<BR>programmes by=20
the security. This was a justified action by the security.<BR><BR>The =
students=20
had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went beyond<BR>their =
control=20
when other non-students joined in. The security was ill<BR>prepared =
and=20
overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.<BR><BR><BR>The =
President is=20
saddened and mad about the whole incident both the handling<BR>of it =
by the=20
security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The =
critics<BR>could say=20
any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more =
for<BR>Gambian=20
youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters =
to<BR>Jawara. The=20
President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by<BR>providing =
funds=20
for their various activities such as their rounds around =
the<BR>country to=20
recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them computers =
for<BR>their=20
office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota =
van<BR>(coaster)=20
for them, and his is helping them to have their own telecentres<BR>(2) =
so that=20
they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just a few<BR>of =
the=20
things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, =
a<BR>University and=20
many other tertiary institutions since he came to =
power.<BR>Gambian=20
youths have more access to education now than any other time in =
the<BR>history=20
of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is=20
=
very<BR>unfair.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>PEACE<BR><BR>Tombong<BR><BR><B=
R><BR><BR>______________________________________________________<BR>Get=20
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Tombong:
thanks for providing some basic information for the forum. Help us understand how and why the Gambian security forces avoided any casualties despite being shot at by armed enemies of the state? Why did the armed men kill students, who apparently may have freed some of them? Is there a pattern, since none of the loyalist security elements were even injured during the January shoot-out as well? Given that the government indicated that it would not take an unauthorized demonstration lightly, shouldn't we conclude that the killings were premeditated?
I hope you can address these questions. Focusing on what Jammeh may have done for GAMSU and education in general is quite irrelevant here. I don't recall any accounts of so many children being gunned down under any leader in the Gambia's history.
Amadou Scattred Janneh
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List Members,
Lately all the messages i receive come in doublicated. Are list members
experiencing the same or do i have a problem with my system? Need your
assistance and advice ASAP.
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Edi:
I commend you for recent letter. It does not make sense for us to fight.
Our common enemy is dictator yahya jemus. Let us concentrate on him. The
dictator must go.
Comrade,
MLJ Conteh
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Tombong will have his day in court. The dictator and his cohorts must answer
to this carnage. The Gambia will never be the same. We have lost our kids.
What must will do? Unity should be our preamble.
Comrade,
MLJ Conteh
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Tombong:
You must be crazy to come to Atlanta. We will be ready for your nonsense.
No Gambian in the US will sit or stand silently and here you insult us. I
will attend any forum you are going to participate in.
Please reconsider coming to Atlanta. You will be making a fool of yourself.
We do not need to call you. You are a disgrace to those who knew you before.
Dictator yahya jemus must go.
MLJ Conteh
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Muhamed,
Thanks for forwarding this. I was never a fan of the Old Man's presidency,
but believe me I'll gladly give up my salary today to have him back! Butcher
of the Gambia, he was not! What a difference the past six years has made.
Saul.
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>As I post herewith Sir Dawda's condolence letter he had sent to the
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The sentence "Since George Sarr is already working on something for
Gambiansonline.com and is coming in with lots of experience to offer, I think he
should not join the Team,..." in my last posting on "Additional suggestion for
action plan" should have read
"Since George Sarr is already working on something for Gambiansonline.com and is
coming in with lots of experience to offer, I think he SHOULD JOIN the Team,.."
The word "not" unfortunately slipped in.
Dave Manneh's suggestion seconded by Hamjatta is a sound one. Infact I mentioned
just that in my posting. So please go ahead, I do not feel undermined at all. We are
all in this together.
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Subject: GNCDD To Provide Defence Fund For Students If Charged - Fwd From
The Point
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Hi!
This is from the Point. In the event that the students are charged, =
can we co-ordinate our efforts to avoid duplications?
=
Buharry.
____________________________________________________________________
GNCDD To Provide Defence Fund For Students If Charged
=20
=20
According to the publicity secretary of the Gambia National Council =
for Democracy and Development in North America(GCDD), Mr. Kebba =
Touray,the organisation is considering establishing will to help =
detained students if they are charged. "We hope that reason and good =
jugement on the part of government will prevail, and that we will not =
see students being paraded in front of magistrates and judges for =
expressing their right to free speech and assembly, Council President =
Ebrihima Jagne said.=20
The spokesman stated that they are expressing concern about the =
events that led to the killings of many innocents chidren following last =
Monday's demonstration. He added that they are ready to provide all =
needed assistance to ensure that any stduent charged is given a proper =
defence and will contact the leadership of the Bar Association to =
discuss the issue with them..=20
He told The Point that the President and and its Secretary General =
Mai Fatty yesterday met the European ambassadors at the UN. "We have =
also set a letter to the State Department to seek for an audience", the =
spokesman said. Asked about the purpose of such a metting, he said to =
ensure that the US government calls for a thorough investigation of the =
matter, condemns the killings as a human rights violation and demands =
the release of detained students.=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2> This is from the Point. In the =
event that=20
the students are charged, can we co-ordinate our efforts to avoid=20
duplications?</FONT></DIV>
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<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D-1>According to the =
publicity=20
secretary of the Gambia National Council for Democracy and =
Development in=20
North America(GCDD), Mr. Kebba Touray,the organisation is =
considering=20
establishing will to help detained students if they are charged. =
"We hope=20
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prevail, and=20
that we will not see students being paraded in front of =
magistrates and=20
judges for expressing their right to free speech and assembly, =
Council=20
President Ebrihima Jagne said. </FONT>
<P align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D-1>The spokesman stated that they are =
expressing=20
concern about the events that led to the killings of many =
innocents=20
chidren following last Monday's demonstration. He added that they =
are=20
ready to provide all needed assistance to ensure that any stduent =
charged=20
is given a proper defence and will contact the leadership of the =
Bar=20
Association to discuss the issue with them..=20
<P align=3Dleft>He told The Point that the President and and its =
Secretary=20
General Mai Fatty yesterday met the European ambassadors at the =
UN. "We=20
have also set a letter to the State Department to seek for an =
audience",=20
the spokesman said. Asked about the purpose of such a metting, he =
said to=20
ensure that the US government calls for a thorough investigation =
of the=20
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demands the=20
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This is from The Observer.
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Gamsu treasurer picked up=20
Alassan Ceesay, treasurer of the Gambia Students Union (Gamsu) was =
yesterday morning picked up at his Kanifing Estate residence by a =
personnel of the NIA.=20
Alassan Ceesay, a level two AAT student at the GTTI, was reportedly put =
on board a white Peugeot vehicle registration number BJL 5019.=20
His arrest came in the wake of the Monday student demonstrations which =
left many students dead and government installations and private =
properties destroyed.=20
Talking to the Daily Observer, Dr Ousman Ceesay, a veterinary surgeon at =
Abuko, who is the father of Alassan Ceesay, said, "My son did not =
participate in the Mondaystudents demonstrations.=20
All the family were here, none of the children, including Pa Alassan =
Ceesay went to school. I am not aware of my son's involvement in any =
demonstration. We are still waiting to hear from the NIA to tell us the =
condition of my son."=20
The NIA could not be reached for comments.Meanwhile, about 150 people, =
mostly students, detained in various places around the Greater Banjul =
Area, have been released on bail.
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Roman,Times,Times NewRoman"=20
size=3D-1>Alassan Ceesay, treasurer of the Gambia Students Union (Gamsu) =
was=20
yesterday </FONT><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman,Times,Times NewRoman"=20
size=3D-1>morning picked up at his Kanifing Estate residence by a =
personnel of the=20
NIA.=20
<P>Alassan Ceesay, a level two AAT student at the GTTI, was reportedly =
put on=20
board a white Peugeot vehicle registration number BJL 5019.=20
<P>His arrest came in the wake of the Monday student demonstrations =
which left=20
many students dead and government installations and private properties=20
destroyed.=20
<P>Talking to the Daily Observer, Dr Ousman Ceesay, a veterinary surgeon =
at=20
Abuko, who is the father of Alassan Ceesay, said, "My son did not =
participate in=20
the Mondaystudents demonstrations.=20
<P>All the family were here, none of the children, including Pa Alassan =
Ceesay=20
went to school. I am not aware of my son's involvement in any =
demonstration. We=20
are still waiting to hear from the NIA to tell us the condition of my =
son."=20
<P>The NIA could not be reached for comments.Meanwhile, about 150 =
people, mostly=20
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Hi folks,
First, I would like to express my sincere thanks to Tombong for sending an
update on the results of his investigations since he returned to The Gambia.
It is only by hearing "the other side" that we can call this a dialog.
Please keep it coming.
My own take on Tombong's posting revolves around a few issues. First, he
said:
> The Secretary of Sate for
> the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets. The
> Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event will
> verify this.
I find the above statement either at best confusing, and at worst indicating
that the Sec. of State for the Interior is out of his mind by denying a
"fact." So which is which, Tombong. Please tell us whether the above was a
typo, or a statement of the state of the mental health of our Sec. of State
of the Interior.
Furthermore, Tombong said:
>
> Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with
their
> phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their action
> has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a
phone
> in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good idea.
> All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being said
> over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the phone-in
> programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the security.
>
While I agree that the atmosphere that existed in the aftermath of the
killings might have been highly charged, and exploitable, I would also add
that it would have been more proper for the Government to request they be
allowed on these talk shows to have their side of the story heard. The idea
that the best way to end the problems caused by the talk programs was to
stop the programs was totally wrong. As far as I'm concerned, these talk
programs are an extension of our freedoms and rights. Furthermore, these
rights are natural, and for this reason not some feeding bottle that the
governement can pull from our mouths when they think we've had enough.
To his credit, Tombong showed a lot of bravery, and candor here:
> The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went beyond
> their control when other non-students joined in. The security was ill
> prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
>
And I'll add that the above is the kind of talk that makes a person great.
Please keep up the honesty.
Tombong's analysis of the President's reaction to the killings and GAMSU
went thus:
> The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the
handling
> of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The
critics
> could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more for
> Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to
> Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by
> providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds around
the
> country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them computers
for
> their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van
> (coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own telecentres
> (2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just a
few
> of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
> University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to power.
> Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time in
the
> history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is very
> unfair.
>
I find the above statements sounding like we have a very patroniziing
President. It is that same old yarn we're heard so many times about how
grateful we should feel for this or that leader for doing this or that for
us. Will someone please tell Tombong, and Mr. President that he, the
President, like everyother employee of the Gambian government, is our
SERVANT. They accepted the jobs or, in the case of the President,
self-appointed themselves. So why should we feel grateful for their doing
what's their duty?
Second, I find it interesting that Tombong suggests that the fact that
President Jammeh had done all those wonderful deeds for the students should
have made them a little less ungrateful. How soon we forget; or how easy it
is to miss the very obvious issues. I think we all remember that it was the
very army that former President Jawara built that overthrew him. That army
included Mr. Jammeh, and I'm sure he too benefitted from all those vehicles,
houses, salaries, and other resources that were diverted from urgent needed
national priorities just to keep an army happy. We all know what happened.
The lesson here for President Jammeh, and all of us, is that history is just
repeating itself, because Mr. Jammeh has, in my opinion, failed to learn
from it.
I would also like to say that the killings of last week are especially sad
in light of the fact that President Jammeh himself is in power today because
of demonstrations that Gambian soldiers started in 1994. If they had been
accorded the same treatment that President Jammeh's troops accorded the
GAMSU demonstration, he would not be here today feel oh so sad about the
whole thing.
I found the press release from the Attorney General and Secretary of State
for Justice very encouraging, given that it expresses what might be a
sincere part on his part to see a proper investigation of this whole thing.
However, I would like to say that he faces an uphill battle for the simple
reason that the Jammeh government has shown such high-handedness and
arrogance, that many people simply don't think they have it in them to
tolerate a process that will find them culpable. Time will tell ...
And finally, I would like to say a BIG THANK YOU! to Dr. Madiba Saidy for
sending in his apologies to Tombong and the list for insults he'd hurled at
Tombong. I hope we all draw lessons from that unfortunate incident, and
emulate Dr. Saidy in courage. By the way, Tombong had earlier complained
that list managers had been silent as some subscribers had insulted him. I
would like to say that it was the other day I categorically mentioned that
insults on the list are not tolerable, and indeed, I specifically mentioned
the case of Dr. Saidy. As someone who has been insulted endlessly on the
list, and in private e-mail messages, I understand and feel Tombong's
concerns. So he can rest assured that while there will always be the odd
one once in a while, every effort will be made to ensure a healthy and clean
atmosphere for a dialog between us.
Have a great weekend everyone, and best wishes in your endeavors.
Katim
>
>
>
>
>
> PEACE
>
> Tombong
>
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Hi folks,
May we get more information about GNCDD? Given that there are plans to =
setup a similar organization, why don't we (if possible) save ourselves =
the trouble by joining GNCDD or trying to organize it's merger with =
similar organizations to create a new one? I know Latjor Ndow and Co. =
have the Gambian Leadership Conference(?) as do other people. Why don't =
we first create a list of all these organizations, and then see what can =
be worked out. Please feel free to send me contact info either to the =
list, or to my e-mail address [log in to unmask]
Also, I whole-heartedly support Alpha Robinson's suggestion that George =
Sarr join in helping build the Web site that will serve as a clearing =
house for our efforts. We can also work out for him to provide the chat =
services, if possible, and needed.
I was just thinking, we'll also need translators! It will be best if we =
make sure that all press releases and media kits we send out will be in =
the native languages of the target audiences. For this reason, I would =
appreciate it if we can have volunteers who are willing and able to help =
translate material for us, as and when needed.
That's about it!
Katim
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From The Point
Hi!
This is from the Point. In the event that the students are =
charged, can we co-ordinate our efforts to avoid duplications?
=
Buharry.
____________________________________________________________________
GNCDD To Provide Defence Fund For Students If Charged
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=20
According to the publicity secretary of the Gambia National =
Council for Democracy and Development in North America(GCDD), Mr. Kebba =
Touray,the organisation is considering establishing will to help =
detained students if they are charged. "We hope that reason and good =
jugement on the part of government will prevail, and that we will not =
see students being paraded in front of magistrates and judges for =
expressing their right to free speech and assembly, Council President =
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Robinson's=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's about it!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> This is from the Point. In the =
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in North America(GCDD), Mr. Kebba Touray,the organisation is =
considering=20
establishing will to help detained students if they are charged. =
"We=20
hope that reason and good jugement on the part of government =
will=20
prevail, and that we will not see students being paraded in =
front of=20
magistrates and judges for expressing their right to free speech =
and=20
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The Point Published Saturday, 15 April, 2000
We Want Peace, But...
The statements by Vice President Isatou Njie-Saidy and Interior Secretary
Ousman Badjie called for an analysis.
In the case of the Secretary for the Interior, his statements over the Radio
and the TV are different. According to the Radio Gambia report, Badjie
stated that the security forces only used rubber bullets and tear gas. In
the interview over the TV, he stated that they used blanc ammunition, tear
gas, batons.
Now, rubber bullets at close range kill, so the use of rubber bullets could
have caused death.
Badjie also said intelligence information revealed that armed civilians were
within the ranks of the demonstrators. If that was the case, then how many
members of the security forces were shot by these people? Better still, were
any of the armed men identified or arrested since they were located by
intelligence operatives?
Now, we would not bother to join the speculation on the suggested identity
of such people, which is rampant in town, for want of proof. But we need to
know whether the intelligence men, that identified them, just stood by and
allowed them to go scot free thereby failing in their real national security
responsibility.
If that was the case, then those are the real threat to national security,
and not the students!
If those people were on the scene and located, they should have been the
primary concern and focus of the security, and a special group should have
been assigned the role to round them up.
Our sister, the Vice President said the shooting started from within the
demonstrators. In both Badjie's and Njie-Saidy's accounts, the point made
seems to indicate that these people were firing at the forces. Mrs.
Njie-Sady's account clearly denotes that the shooting started from their
end. The question is - was it because these people were firing at them, that
the security retaliated using live ammunition in addition to the rubber
bullets?
And were any gunmen hit, as was the case with several students? Or are we to
believe that the gunmen (apparently enemies of the law, as former detainees,
as said last night on TV and potential enemies of the state which jailed
them) shot at the students while moving among them, and none of the student
attempted to run away from them?
Or for those shot, were they shot from the back and, if so, what explains
the reported frontal injuries suffered by the victims.
Is it a case of being between two fires - with the obvious picture for all
to visualise.
It is an open secret that these two statements and pronoucements did not go
down well with the public, as verified in transport vehicles, public
gatherings (funerals), markets and mosques surroundings.
As we said in our last issue, the failure to avert the tragedy lies squarely
on the shoulders of the government, and it has to assume full responsibility
for what happened.
Hundreds of onloookers saw who did what. The truth must be accepted and
said. When a young man is brought to a police station for stealing, his
parents bear the brunt of insults and abuses from the police who place the
responsibility for such a disposition on their shoulders, although they did
not actually commit the felony themselves (No amalgamation please, a
constitutional right for demonstration is diffferent from stealing).
The same applies in this case - the government is the mother and father of
the security forces.
If the government, through its agents fails to protect lives, properties and
maintain peace and security at one point in time, it must be courageous
enough to accept that it is unable to govern; thus it must assume full
responsibility for any situation that arises.
The need for peace and stability must be understood by government as a
sincere effort to address the concerns and aspirations of the people.
If concerns are not addressed, if issues are not resolved, and if no
apparent moves are made openly to allow everybody and aggrieved parties to
see that the principles of good governance and the rule of law are observed,
resentment, discord and clashes are bound to happen.
In order words, it is the government that should lay the foundation for
peace and stability in the first place, by creating the necessary conducive
environment.
On media objectivity, let us tell our sister and her colleagues that just by
associating her in this piece, we are abiding by the requirement for
journalistic objectivity.
By hinting that a number of people should resign, we did not exclude our
sister nor our brother Badjie: meaning that the principles of objectivity
were observed. The objectivity of the journalist entails that he/she
distances herself from the people or events he/she is observing (people
here, are people you normally know and interact with).
And we cannot be accused of not having condemned in the most vehement terms
the destruction of properties.
We re-iterate our call for all responsibilities to be situated through a
credible independent enquiry, for, that, and only that, could appease the
wounded people. We subscribe to Peace with a capital P, but not to the
"Peace by Force" slogan that some of the security forces were heard shouting
to the boys and girls. For "peace by force" can only be the best recipe for
disruption of the peace, for conflict and instablity!
Concerning the abuses "stupid, crazy Deyda" and the death threats, we
respond that as documented, in 1994, when it was "hotter" and more dangerous
as early as September, we offered our life to The Gambia. The situation is
still the same, for as a journalist, we're obliged to place our
responsibility to the people above and beyond loyalty to anything else. As
for the threats:
Yes, a bullet comes with a frightening speed, pierces your skin, enters and
explodes in your body's horizontal extremity. Small boys and girls endured
it, so why not us? We are no better than them. As for the fire, it is true
that it consumes you in a horrible manner. But ....you land in Heaven. So
what?
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Yes, I agree with you 100 %. I also join you in commending the Point
Newspaper for the editorial board's principled stance. The truth must be
told without bias and no matter however painful it is. The people
responsible for these senseless killings should be made accountable for
their horrible deeds.
Bakary J Sonko
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As we condemn biased reporting, so we must commend journalists who remain
true
to thier calling even under pressure. I am proud of the Point for the
article
below:
cheers,
Modou.
Culled from the Point as published on Quantum web site
The Point Published Saturday, 15 April, 2000
We Want Peace,But...
The statements by Vice President Isatou Njie-Saidy and
Interior Secretary Ousman Badjie called for an analysis.
In the case of the Secretary for the Interior, his
statements over the Radio and the TV are different.
According to the Radio Gambia report, Badjie stated
that the security forces only used rubber bullets and
tear gas. In the interview over the TV, he stated that
they used blanc ammunition, tear gas, batons.
Now, rubber bullets at close range kill, so the use of
rubber bullets could have caused death.
Badjie also said intelligence information revealed that
armed civilians were within the ranks of the
demonstrators. If that was the case, then how many
members of the security forces were shot by these
people? Better still, were any of the armed men identified
or arrested since they were located by intelligence
operatives?
Now, we would not bother to join the speculation on the
suggested identity of such people, which is rampant in
town, for want of proof. But we need to know whether
the intelligence men, that identified them, just stood by
and allowed them to go scot free thereby failing in their
real national security responsibility.
If that was the case, then those are the real threat to
national security, and not the students!
If those people were on the scene and located, they
should have been the primary concern and focus of the
security, and a special group should have been
assigned the role to round them up.
Our sister, the Vice President said the shooting started
from within the demonstrators. In both Badjie's and
Njie-Saidy's accounts, the point made seems to indicate
that these people were firing at the forces. Mrs.
Njie-Sady's account clearly denotes that the shooting
started from their end. The question is - was it because
these people were firing at them, that the security
retaliated using live ammunition in addition to the
rubber bullets?
And were any gunmen hit, as was the case with several
students? Or are we to believe that the gunmen
(apparently enemies of the law, as former detainees, as
said last night on TV and potential enemies of the state
which jailed them) shot at the students while moving
among them, and none of the student attempted to run
away from them?
Or for those shot, were they shot from the back and, if
so, what explains the reported frontal injuries suffered
by the victims.
Is it a case of being between two fires - with the obvious
picture for all to visualise.
It is an open secret that these two statements and
pronoucements did not go down well with the public, as
verified in transport vehicles, public gatherings
(funerals), markets and mosques surroundings.
As we said in our last issue, the failure to avert the
tragedy lies squarely on the shoulders of the
government, and it has to assume full responsibility for
what happened.
Hundreds of onloookers saw who did what. The truth
must be accepted and said. When a young man is
brought to a police station for stealing, his parents bear
the brunt of insults and abuses from the police who
place the responsibility for such a disposition on their
shoulders, although they did not actually commit the
felony themselves (No amalgamation please, a
constitutional right for demonstration is diffferent from
stealing).
The same applies in this case - the government is the
mother and father of the security forces.
If the government, through its agents fails to protect
lives, properties and maintain peace and security at one
point in time, it must be courageous enough to accept
that it is unable to govern; thus it must assume full
responsibility for any situation that arises.
The need for peace and stability must be understood by
government as a sincere effort to address the concerns
and aspirations of the people.
If concerns are not addressed, if issues are not resolved,
and if no apparent moves are made openly to allow
everybody and aggrieved parties to see that the
principles of good governance and the rule of law are
observed, resentment, discord and clashes are bound to
happen.
In order words, it is the government that should lay the
foundation for peace and stability in the first place, by
creating the necessary conducive environment.
On media objectivity, let us tell our sister and her
colleagues that just by associating her in this piece, we
are abiding by the requirement for journalistic
objectivity.
By hinting that a number of people should resign, we
did not exclude our sister nor our brother Badjie:
meaning that the principles of objectivity were
observed. The objectivity of the journalist entails that
he/she distances herself from the people or events
he/she is observing (people here, are people you
normally know and interact with).
And we cannot be accused of not having condemned in
the most vehement terms the destruction of properties.
We re-iterate our call for all responsibilities to be
situated through a credible independent enquiry, for,
that, and only that, could appease the wounded people.
We subscribe to Peace with a capital P, but not to the
"Peace by Force" slogan that some of the security
forces were heard shouting to the boys and girls. For
"peace by force" can only be the best recipe for
disruption of the peace, for conflict and instablity!
Concerning the abuses "stupid, crazy Deyda" and the
death threats, we respond that as documented, in 1994,
when it was "hotter" and more dangerous as early as
September, we offered our life to The Gambia. The
situation is still the same, for as a journalist, we're
obliged to place our responsibility to the people above
and beyond loyalty to anything else. As for the threats:
Yes, a bullet comes with a frightening speed, pierces
your skin, enters and explodes in your body's
horizontal extremity. Small boys and girls endured it,
so why not us? We are no better than them. As for the
fire, it is true that it consumes you in a horrible
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Dear Gambia L,
I think I smell a conspiracy here for Mr. Tombong to suggest that GAMSU was
"practically formed" by Yaya.You are dead wrong about this as Saidykhan
rightly put it.I was part of the team that made the historic transition from
NUGS to GAMSU. This was in 1991 when no one ever dream about a coup in the
Gambia.
Mr Saidy, please do not try to be a spokesman for a regime that has no
regard whatsoever for human life.I am sure if a close relative of you were
among the fallen heroes you would have a different opinion. This issue is
beyond politics and I think you should know that better but we do understand
that you cant speak your mind about this issue because you don't want to
lose your job.If you cannot speak the truth don't defend the indefensible!
Mori Kebba Jammeh
Mori
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> Mr. Saidy,
>
> I was totally confused when you mentioned in your report that "the
President
> practically formed GAMSU." Did you mean to say that he gave the
organization
> a lot of technical assistance? Because Yaya was a soldier when GAMSU
actually
> came into existence. The formation of Gambia Students' Union took a whole
> weekend in 1991 at Gambia College, Brikama Campus. This student body
replaced
> the National Union of Gambian Students (NUGS). It was not an easy
transition.
>
> However, GAMSU should have never allowed to be fueled/fed by Yaya or his
> government. They could have secured funds from other sources, for example,
> NGOs, philanthropists and union dues (contributions by schools across the
> country). Also, there are many Gambian organizations in Europe and North
> America that will never be reluctant to accord the organization any
> financial/technical assistance if they so request. If you live under
> somebody's roof, you have a limited say in that house. However, one may
also
> contend that the students were wise enough to accept Yaya's offer, yet
will
> never tolerate to be puppets. Where did the cost of the van and computers
> come from anyway? This should be an independent student organization. No
> attempts should be made to politicize it. In a country like The Gambia,
where
> the vast majority of the populace are politically uneducated, student
> organizations are very vital to literally fight for freedom and justice as
> being evident in the past month and a half. So they should always
safeguard
> and maintain their neutrality.
>
> S. S. Saidykhan
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Tombong,
To dare to throw your analysis at us is really an insult to your intelligence
and ours too. I do not have time to deal with the dust that you are trying to
throw at us, but I hope someone will take all your contentions one by one apart
and expose the dishonesty, hypocrisy and ignorance so present in what you wrote.
Let me nonetheless remind you that this forum has reliable information about
what transpired and is still receiving reliable information. Saiks was in the
Gambia and was right there on the scene. FOROYAA had people on the scene through
whose observations they were able to compile a report which formed the basis of
a letter entitled " The state of the Nation-Letter to the President" sent to
Jammeh. I would suggest that you read this letter and Saiks' narration.
Here is an excerpt from that letter for you to think about:
"Hence, two phases of the confrontation with the security forces proved to be
fatal. The first one was events at the GTTI which gave the other students who
were far away from the scene the impression that their other colleagues were
being shot. The second incident is near the headquarters of the paramilitary
forces when real live bullets were used."
.............
"The fact that the students did not fire any live ammunition is precisely the
reason why no one has heard the death of a security officer........."
Really reading through your last paragraph one could see how ignorant you
consider the Gambian people to be. Talking about the things Jammeh did for
GAMSU. Now, let me remind you that I know Jammeh personally from our school days
at Gambia high school. Those were the days when Jammeh had to be helped
financially to get on with his schooling. Let me quickly say that I am not here
to belittle or ridicule him, that would be petty. The question that you should
therefore ask is: how comes that that poor student turned army officer has now
got so much wealth to dish out to buy all the things you have listed for GAMSU,
build Kaninlai, buy cars for Government departments, afford to buy all those
animals parading the state house and simply live the life of luxury he is known
to be enjoying, send people to Mecca and so on and so forth. Think about it for
a while Tombong. You know I know you too from our school days and I am sure you
will not find it difficult to find something wrong here, or have you erased the
memory stored in your brain?
Now, that aside, even if Jammeh was born rich and there are no reasons to doubt
that this wealth he is throwing at people belongs to the Gambian people, does
that mean that GAMSU should become subdued and kill their conscience, keep their
eyes shot, just because Jammeh is supporting them or because they are not
directly affected.
Let me leave you with Pastor Martin Niemoeller who lived in Germany under
Hitler's rule. This is what he wrote:
They first came for the Communists
And I didn't speak up
because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews
And I didn't speak up
Because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unions
And I didn't speak up
Because I wasn't a unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics
And I didn't speak up
Because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me
And by that time
No one was left to speak up.
Think about it Tombong.
Alpha Robinson
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Subject: Where Do We Go From Here?
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Hi!
I think that we need to step back and take stock of our efforts and =
their results so far. I have reread the petition and I see that the =
government is making overtures regarding some of what is stated in it. =
Instead of blanket, reactionary dismissal of anything offered by the =
government or being blinded by emotions, I think we should devise =
strategies to analyse and come up with recommendations regarding how we =
can ensure the achievement of our goals while remaining firm. Examples =
of government overtures are:
PETITION: - release the names of those killed and release their =
bodies to their relatives for proper burial;
Tombong has released the names of those killed and injured. To ensure =
that this is the total number, we should accept Tombong's challenge and =
encourage all who have missing relatives to report their names to an =
agreed upon person or news outlet. I think that Tombong should be =
thanked for the efforts in getting and publishing the names of the =
victims. He could have simply kept quiet just like the rest of the =
government.
PETITION: - ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry =
and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the =
law without undue delay;
ATTORNEY GENERAL's STATEMENT: In view of the fact that the credibility =
of our criminal justice system is itself on trial, the Attorney General =
will take the unusual step of appointing a Public Prosecutor under =
section 65 of the Criminal Procedure Code. The Gambia Bar Association, =
the family of the deceased, friends of justice (at home or abroad) are =
invited to suggest names of lawyers, (both at home and abroad) who can =
satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of the
alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
Instead of dismissing the AG's offer, let us take him up on it. He has =
suggested that the Bar Association, deceased's families and concerned =
people outside can suggest names. Let us first ask him questions like =
how the selection procedure will take place, who will make the final =
selection, the criteria for making such a selection etc. We should begin =
work on locating a lawyer and try to co-ordinate our efforts with the =
Bar Association and the families of the deceased.
PETITION: - launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances surrounding it;
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S STATEMENT: I have invoked my powers under section =
11(1) of the Coroner's Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is =
simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an =
inquest be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the =
events of the 10th and 11th April 2000. The purpose of the inquest is, =
of course, to establish whether or not an offence has been committed by =
any person, known or unknown.
What we can do here is to try to influence the make-up of the commission =
or try to ensure that it is independent. We should remain vigilant to =
counter any attempt to influence the commission. We can also insist that =
the students alone are not held responsible but that responsibility for =
the shootings is properly placed on those responsible. More suggestions =
on what we can do can be forthcoming.=20
Maybe Tombong can be helpful in providing the names of students still =
under detention and provide us with the number of students charged and =
released on bail and the severity of the charges levelled against them.
We should keep the pressure to ensure that the government sticks by what =
it has offered and to ensure that the rest of the petition items are =
respected. All the planned activities should be followed.
At this point, I would like to suggest that we desist from using abusive =
language as has been proposed by others earlier. People have vented =
their frustrations and now should be the time for sober reflection and =
action. Continuing to indulge in abusive language will not help our =
cause and might have the negative impact of having people dismiss our =
seriousness. We have charted a course and should follow it to ensure =
that justice prevails but let us follow that course with dignity, =
firmness, vigilance and dedication. We still have a long way to go. =
Thanks.
=
Buharry.
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Hey Gl community, does any one have the email addresses of the
following news papers, THE POINT, THE INDEPENDENT and THE OBERSEVER.
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>Tombong,
>
>To dare to throw your analysis at us is really an insult to your
>intelligence
>and ours too. I do not have time to deal with the dust that you are trying
>to
>throw at us, but I hope someone will take all your contentions one by one
>apart
>and expose the dishonesty, hypocrisy and ignorance so present in what you
>wrote.
>
>Let me nonetheless remind you that this forum has reliable information
>about
>what transpired and is still receiving reliable information. Saiks was in
>the
>Gambia and was right there on the scene. FOROYAA had people on the scene
>through
>whose observations they were able to compile a report which formed the
>basis of
>a letter entitled " The state of the Nation-Letter to the President" sent
>to
>Jammeh. I would suggest that you read this letter and Saiks' narration.
>
>Here is an excerpt from that letter for you to think about:
>"Hence, two phases of the confrontation with the security forces proved to
>be
>fatal. The first one was events at the GTTI which gave the other students
>who
>were far away from the scene the impression that their other colleagues
>were
>being shot. The second incident is near the headquarters of the
>paramilitary
>forces when real live bullets were used."
>.............
>"The fact that the students did not fire any live ammunition is precisely
>the
>reason why no one has heard the death of a security officer........."
>
>Really reading through your last paragraph one could see how ignorant you
>consider the Gambian people to be. Talking about the things Jammeh did for
>GAMSU. Now, let me remind you that I know Jammeh personally from our school
>days
>at Gambia high school. Those were the days when Jammeh had to be helped
>financially to get on with his schooling. Let me quickly say that I am not
>here
>to belittle or ridicule him, that would be petty. The question that you
>should
>therefore ask is: how comes that that poor student turned army officer has
>now
>got so much wealth to dish out to buy all the things you have listed for
>GAMSU,
>build Kaninlai, buy cars for Government departments, afford to buy all
>those
>animals parading the state house and simply live the life of luxury he is
>known
>to be enjoying, send people to Mecca and so on and so forth. Think about it
>for
>a while Tombong. You know I know you too from our school days and I am sure
>you
>will not find it difficult to find something wrong here, or have you erased
>the
>memory stored in your brain?
>
>Now, that aside, even if Jammeh was born rich and there are no reasons to
>doubt
>that this wealth he is throwing at people belongs to the Gambian people,
>does
>that mean that GAMSU should become subdued and kill their conscience, keep
>their
>eyes shot, just because Jammeh is supporting them or because they are not
>directly affected.
>
>Let me leave you with Pastor Martin Niemoeller who lived in Germany under
>Hitler's rule. This is what he wrote:
>
>They first came for the Communists
>And I didn't speak up
>because I wasn't a Communist.
>
>Then they came for the Jews
>And I didn't speak up
>Because I wasn't a Jew.
>
>Then they came for the trade unions
>And I didn't speak up
>Because I wasn't a unionist.
>
>Then they came for the Catholics
>And I didn't speak up
>Because I was a Protestant.
>
>Then they came for me
>And by that time
>No one was left to speak up.
>
>Think about it Tombong.
>
>Alpha Robinson
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Dave and Hamjatta,
I think thats okay and it will save a lot for us all. I agree to that
suggestion.
Thanks
Ziz.
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> Mr Kanteh,
> That sounds good. Keep me posted on the outcome of your meeting
> in Slough. I am off to Portsmouth to meet some Gambian Students too.
> I have also brought to the attention of the NUS, the rescheduling of the
demo.
> And as it so happens, that suits them even better, for they will be able
to
> contact
> more SUs around the country.
> The guy to contact if any of you so wish is Mr Brookes Duke,
> he looks after the Black affairs of the NUS. He also shares his office
with Mr
> Darko
> Oladapojibola. The # for Duke's office is 0171-2493164.
> Jules Mason will be talking to the executive of the NUS UK & Ireland at
their
> annual conference in Wales this weekend. Mr Mason can be reached on his
> mobile on 070-5000-84418
>
> Lets see what Mr Ceesay and the rest of the UK crew suggest with regards
to
> using a UK account. It will solve a lot of logistical problems for sure.
>
> All the best
> Manneh
>
>
>
> Hamjatta Kanteh wrote:
>
> > Dave Manneh,
> > once again thanks for the update and the suggestions. i think the
best
> > put plan would be to use one account here (preferably a current account-
even
> > if it means one individual's existing account; i can volunteer mine)
where
> > all Gambian UK residents and concerned friends of the Gambia would
donate
> > whatever they can afford. what do you think? also just to inform you,
today i
> > will be having series of meetings with Gambians in the Slough area. i
will
> > bring to their attention the developments so far.
> > thanks for your attention
> > Hamjatta
> >
> > hkanteh
> >
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Katim wrote,
My own take on Tombong's posting revolves around a few issues. First, he
said:
The Secretary of Sate for
the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets. The
Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event will
verify this.
I find the above statement either at best confusing, and at worst indicating
that the Sec. of State for the Interior is out of his mind by denying a
"fact." So which is which, Tombong. Please tell us whether the above was a
typo, or a statement of the state of the mental health of our Sec. of State
of the Interior.
Katim,
Personally i beleive that live bullets were used by the security forces, so
the above is not a typo.
PEACE
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Tombong,
Thank you for your update.Aside from the list of statistics ( which I
personally will take with a pinch of salt for now) the rest is your usual
gibberish of defending the status quo, and continuing the cover up.Nothing
more was expected, believe me.
You must have forgotten to give us a list of a particular group of students
detained, and who were among the first group that was fired upon, including
the student leaders of GAMSU and who have not been seen or heard from ever
since.
You also must have forgotten to tell us about the fact that the security
forces have been going about picking up children all over the place and
detaining them, and how they went into classrooms and took students who were
not even part of the demonstration away.
Likewise, you must have forgotten to tell us about the fact that they have
been trying to lure students back to the police stations so they can be
arrested, by announcing that all those who were injured and treated and
released should report to the police stations and that this is for the
purpose of updating the record.
You must have forgotten to include that fact that those students who were
detained were not being fed, and how one parent in Banjul was determined to
take food to her child at the station even if she had to fight the security
forces, and how they beat this woman until her "malan" fell off her in the
street, and her private parts were exposed for all to see. How the crowd
broke down the police barriers at banjul and rushed for the station after
this happened, demanding that the students held there be released, and they
had to announce that they will be released that afternoon.
How the regime has come out and publicly accused the foreign ambassadors in
Gambia of disseminating the wrong information about what happened when all
they did was to report the truth, and how these ambassadors were then led on
some bogus tour by the authorities to "show them what really happened".They
showed then destruction, but I bet they did not show them the dead bodies of
children. I guess you just forgot.
Take your statement below for example. You say the security forces came after
the damage was done by the students. I have personally spoken with reliable
sources in Gambia who told me something completely different.
These individuals told me that eye witnesses say the army commander met the
students when they first started on their march. It is alleged that he tried
to dissuade them to march, as admitted by himself in a press release, but the
students said they would continue their march since they had already told the
officials about this. The eye witnesses said the students held onto the
commander and marched with him for a distance, at which point the army was
spotted coming at the students. When the army commander saw this, eye
witnesses said he laid down flat on the ground. The army opened fire on the
marchers.It was after the army fired, and the other students in the area
heard about it, that they went out and started destroying property, not
before as alleged. The fact that the army commander laid down when he saw the
security forces is definitely something to keep note of.
Further, Mr Saidy, as the director of a public information organ and a self
proclaimed
"card carrying, dues paying, merit acquired member of the executive board of
Amnesty International in the Gambia" your statement that the call in program
by Radio 1 FM was disruptive is an affront to journalism and a testimony to
the fact that what we have here is a police state.
It is already common knowledge that what is supposed to be the public organ
of information that you head was engaged in trivial programming when all this
was happening, and that is not by accident. GRTS reporters should have been
not only in the thick of this tragedy interviewing eye witnesses and
capturing what really happened on tape, but they should have covered the
march in the first place so all Gambians could see the democracy you say we
have is indeed at work.
Of course the powers that be wanted to put a stop to the "call in" program
offered by Radio 1 FM ( this is the first i have heard of GRTS offering one,
highly unlikely I'd say) as fast as possible because they saw that it was a
means for the people to share their feelings and their opposition to this
murderous regime you are defending.Numerous people in Gambia have told me
that people were begining to talk about a mass demonstration by the public
when Yaya returns in these calls, and that some even said they will stand
infront of his motorcade even if they will be run over.
The first sign of an oppressive totalitarian government is their
determination to make sure that the people do not have a chance to confer,
and that they are kept ignorant of what is going on, because in this process
of confering and sharing of ideas lies their doom, and no one knows it
better than they.
There is nothing more telling than the fact that a foreign government had to
step in to defend the rights of George Christenson to accord the people an
organ of free speech in his own country, the abusers of this right being the
government of the day.
The whole World knows that the government tried to nip this sharing of
information by the public, and the expression of their disgust for this
regime in the bud. When they failed, the call in program was sumarily banned,
and here we have a self proclaimed distinguished member of Amnesty
International rationalizing that. Imagine that!
Tombong, please tell us if you have signed the statement issued by Amnesty
International in the wake of these atrocities. They sent it to the list, and
urged all justice loving human rights defenders the World over, to sign it
and send copies to the president as well as other cabinet members. Please
prove to us that your membership in this organization is genuine, and that
your position on the board of Amnesty Gambia is merit based and deserved.I
certainly will ask them about that.
As for Pap Cheyassin Secka's statements, I am still trying to recover from
the fact that he actually accepted a post in this regime, much less anything
else.
As for the rest of your account, I think that others have already said what
needs to be said about your "full of holes a la Jammeh regime officials"
statement.
The drama I predicted is unfolding as the World watches all of you stumbling
over each other in the race to concoct cover-up versions of what happened,
each one different from the previous. The colourful yarn that you people have
started to weave is ample evidence of the level of thinking of this regime,
since they actually believe that the World will fall for this nonsense. Time
will tell.
Jabou Joh
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<< The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place. Soldiers
came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed, prisoners
were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police and the
armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and individuals,
mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fact some
civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody.
>>
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check out this week's edition of The Africa Sun Times; headline: MASSACRE IN
GAMBIA [with Soweto student's riot in background]. Editor of paper and the
United Africa Congress were of great help to the gambian community by
allowing us to use their office space for the emergency meeting organized in
reaction to the massacre of Gambian school children.
Please send them a note/call of appreciation at the following:
THE AFRICA SUN TIMES
299 BROADWAY, SUITE 716
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FAX # :[212] 791-4074
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<< Gambia-L,
I am forwarding these extracts to the L from one of my sources in the
Gambia.
Ebrima Ceesay
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Ebrima,
Tell your source we appreciate and applaud his or her efforts, and to keep it
coming.
Jabou
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Yes, it will be in order if we can coordinate our efforts with this group. It
looks like they are already on the path to some of the suggestions raised by
Katim.
Jabou
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GNCDD To Provide Defence Fund For Students If Charged
According to the publicity secretary of the Gambia National Council for
Democracy and Development in North America(GCDD), Mr. Kebba Touray,the
organisation is considering establishing will to help detained students if
they are charged. "We hope that reason and good jugement on the part of
government will prevail, and that we will not see students being paraded in
front of magistrates and judges for expressing their right to free speech and
assembly, Council President Ebrihima Jagne said.
The spokesman stated that they are expressing concern about the events
that led to the killings of many innocents chidren following last Monday's
demonstration. He added that they are ready to provide all needed assistance
to ensure that any stduent charged is given a proper defence and will contact
the leadership of the Bar Association to discuss the issue with them..
He told The Point that the President and and its Secretary General Mai
Fatty yesterday met the European ambassadors at the UN. "We have also set a
letter to the State Department to seek for an audience", the spokesman said.
Asked about the purpose of such a metting, he said to ensure that the US
government calls for a thorough investigation of the matter, condemns the
killings as a human rights violation and demands the release of detained >>
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Mr Ceesay I believe in your version, Tombong is a
nicker-licker. His statements are never accurate.
Babadinding
Lets keep-up the fight
--- ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Gambia-L,
>
> I am forwarding these extracts to the L from one of
> my sources in the
> Gambia.
>
> Ebrima Ceesay
>
> Tombong Saidy: Do you think people now take you
> seriously having already
> made a fool of yourself with your shallow analysis
> of the Senegalese
> Elections in which you stated categorically that
> Abdou Diouf will win the
> elections?
>
> My brother, just send your PROPAGANDA version to the
> L, and allow me, as
> well, to send my version and then it would be up to
> the people to believe
> whichever version they want to believe.
>
> Do you think people like me believed the Government
> when it said that only
> 12 were killed? Anyway, I'll deal with you when I do
> some analysis for the L
> on the situation back home.
>
>
>
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>
>
> Ebrima,
>
>
> The atmosphere is still tense despite the calmness
> on the surface. As
> reported yesterday, the various branches of the
> security forces continue to
> point fingers at each other.
>
> The pressure can be seen in their faces; a pressure
> they have never
> experienced before and never thought possible. To
> illustrate the point, now
> two soldiers (instead of the usual one or a
> policeman)have
> been assigned to each Secretary of State.
>
> The performance of the Secretaries of State day
> before yesterday, during
> their press conference, says it all. Each and every
> one of them had a
> version different from the other, as if they were
> not recounting the same
> event.
>
> In fact, I'll send you a copy of the video cassette
> capturing the rioting
> and you can distribute it to Human rights groups if
> they have not yet
> received it. The video, though recorded by the
> security forces for their own
> keeping, tells a very tragic story or in other
> words, shows how brutal these
> Jammeh thugs are.
>
> The "Point's" editorial on Thursday, a two-page
> editorial expressed the
> desire of the population which pleaded with the VP
> referred to as our "Dear
> sister" to resign. She has let the entire Gambian
> people down. We should say
> a big THANK YOU to "The Point"
>
> With another Paper like it, there will be no need
> for people like me to be
> filing these Up-dates. FOROYAA has also done a
> magnificent job on the the
> tragic events of 10 April.
>
> I understand (but I am yet to confirm it) that
> President Jammeh arrived
> early this morning, stopping over in Dakar. Anyway,
> as I am sending you this
> update, he is definitely nowhere to be found in the
> country.
>
> What I do know for a fact is that the a section of
> the NIA was of the view
> that he should return to the country unannounced or
> secretly, admitting that
> contrary what they are saying, things are still not
> under control in the
> country.
>
> The students are planning another demonstration on
> Monday; but this too I
> cannot confirm. I tried snooping around the Police
> Station to see if an
> application for such a protest has been filed,
> without success. I'll tell
> something definite later.
>
> By the way, the UDP has issued a statement
> condemning the actions of the
> security forces. An emergency meeting of the Party
> Executive is planned for
> today. Just keep on the pressure. You people on the
> Internet have been very
> effective. Don't you see they have started releasing
> the dead bodies
> following reports on the Net that they were
> decomposing.
>
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Mr Tombong,
The fact that you may be thing that you are doing good
job by posting your so-called updates, I absolutely
question the accuracy of the updates. Also the
Attorney General's statement, I quote " In line with
the Government’s commitment to the
> principles of transparency
> and accountability, and having regard to the fact
> that justice must not only
> be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have
> invoked my powers under
> section 11(1) of the Coroner’s Act, Cap 7.04, and an
> application is
> simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice
> to order that an inquest
> be held touching on the death of any persons as a
> result of the events of
> the 10th and 11th April 2000." end of quote, is
vague, as he himself knows that the government he is
serving is neither transparent nor accountable. What a
lie he is telling the whole world.
Saul Babadinding Touray
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> Gambia-l,
>
> As I promised, I would provide information on the
> ground, after which I will
> give my analysis of the whole situation.
>
> NUMBER OF DECEASED
>
> According to the authorities at RVH, the first
> patients were received at
> around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There
> was a total of 96 patients
> seen and all were treated accordingly with a total
> admission of 28 from
> Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total
> 0f 31. 11 have been
> discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to
> the Central Division
> area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported
> cases.
>
> The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11
> and one reported from
> Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So
> far 11 bodies were
> identified including the one from Bansang. There is
> still one unidentified
> body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
>
> DECEASED REGISTERED
>
> # NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH.
> NATLTY
>
> 1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat
> Gambian
> 2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S
> Gambian
> 3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School
> Gambian
> 4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat
> Gambian
> 5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba
> Gambian
> 6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda
> Gambian
> 7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang
> Prsume Gambian
> 8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding
> ---------------
> 9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang
> Not Gambian
> 10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St.
> Sierra Leonean
> 11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding
> Senegalese
> 12. Unidentified Teenager
>
> Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay’s source, the bodies are
> being released as
> relatives claim them. There are not decomposing
> bodies and there was no
> order from President Jammeh or any one else for the
> bodies to be kept until
> the President’s return. Ebrima’s source also claimed
> that there are “14
> confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not
> true. Ebrima, could you
> please asked your source or any body else to come up
> with the names of the
> remaining two death bodies.
>
> PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
>
> NAME PROFESSION
> ADDRESS/SCHOOL
>
> 1. Allasan Suwareh Student
> Banjul Academy
> 2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child
> Serrekunda
> 3. Yusupha Mbye Student
> Pipeline Comprehensive
> 4. Francis Correa Businessman
> Serrekunda
> 5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian
> Kanifing
> 6. Seeday Jobe Civilian
> Senegalese
> 7. Bakary Singateh Civilian
> Latrikunda Sabiji
> 8. Ousman Jobarteh Student
> Sepps
> 9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian
> Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
> 10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer
> Bakau Station
> 11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student
> Forsters (Nema Kunku)
> 12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut
> (now residing at
>
> New
> Jeshwang)
> 13. Momodou Ceesay Trader
> Dippakunda
> 14. Bakary Njie Student
> Pipeline Comprehensive
> 15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student
> Talinding
> 16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab
> Island/ Ebo Town
> 17. John Gomez Student GTTI
> / Ebo Town
> 18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/
> New Primet St
> 19. Sulayman Krubally Student
> GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe
> 20. Sana Bojang Civilian
> New Jeshwang
> 21. Haddy Camara Student
> Ebeneezer High School
> 22. Sainabou Camara Student
> Bakoteh High School
> 23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student
> Sheikh Mass Kah
> 24. Francis Mendy Student St.
> Agustine’s H. School
> 25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian
> Talingding
> 26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office
> Brikama
> 27. Oumie Jagne Civilian
> Kanifing
> 28. Amie Jagne Civilian
> Kanifing
> 29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student
> Essau High School
> 30. S. Senghore Student
> Essau High School
> 31. Modou Joof Student
> Essau High School
>
> REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
>
> Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
> Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
> Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
> Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
>
> TOTAL 128 Cases
>
> The above were treated and released.
>
>
> PRESS RELEASE
>
> As Attorney General and Secretary of State for
> Justice, it is my
> constitutional duty to balance two equally valid,
> but often competing,
> principles:
>
> i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law
> is called to answer for
> it;
>
> ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be
> accorded a fair hearing.
>
> The latter means that the accused can only be
> arrested and later convicted
> if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
>
> The sad events of the last few days deserve a
> response from the Department
> of State for Justice in line with the dual
> constitutional role outlined
> above.
>
> In line with the Government’s commitment to the
> principles of transparency
> and accountability, and having regard to the fact
> that justice must not only
> be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have
> invoked my powers under
> section 11(1) of the Coroner’s Act, Cap 7.04, and an
> application is
> simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice
> to order that an inquest
> be held touching on the death of any persons as a
> result of the events of
> the 10th and 11th April 2000.
>
> The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to
> establish whether or not an
> offence has been committed by any person, known or
> unknown.
>
> As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an
> information will be filed in
>
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Buharry,
These are good suggestions since it is clear that the government is doing the
usual, seeing what criticism is levelled at them and then trying to cover
themselves in those areas. It is also an encouragement to be vigilant since
they undoubtedly know that what is said here is exposing them to the World,
and if it saves a life, then let us keep up the heat. Including the
suggestions you made into our plan is vital to ensuring that the statements
they make are not just empty promises to pacify the people for now.
Jabou
Hi!
I think that we need to step back and take stock of our efforts and
their results so far. I have reread the petition and I see that the
government is making overtures regarding some of what is stated in it.
Instead of blanket, reactionary dismissal of anything offered by the
government or being blinded by emotions, I think we should devise strategies
to analyse and come up with recommendations regarding how we can ensure the
achievement of our goals while remaining firm. Examples of government
overtures are:
PETITION: - release the names of those killed and release their
bodies to their relatives for proper burial;
Tombong has released the names of those killed and injured. To ensure that
this is the total number, we should accept Tombong's challenge and encourage
all who have missing relatives to report their names to an agreed upon person
or news outlet. I think that Tombong should be thanked for the efforts in
getting and publishing the names of the victims. He could have simply kept
quiet just like the rest of the government.
PETITION: - ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and
the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law
without undue delay;
ATTORNEY GENERAL's STATEMENT: In view of the fact that the credibility of
our criminal justice system is itself on trial, the Attorney General will
take the unusual step of appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of
the Criminal Procedure Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the
deceased, friends of justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names
of lawyers, (both at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the
prosecution of the
alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
Instead of dismissing the AG's offer, let us take him up on it. He has
suggested that the Bar Association, deceased's families and concerned people
outside can suggest names. Let us first ask him questions like how the
selection procedure will take place, who will make the final selection, the
criteria for making such a selection etc. We should begin work on locating a
lawyer and try to co-ordinate our efforts with the Bar Association and the
families of the deceased.
PETITION: - launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and
circumstances surrounding it;
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S STATEMENT: I have invoked my powers under section 11(1)
of the Coroner's Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is simultaneously being
lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an inquest be held touching on
the death of any persons as a result of the events of the 10th and 11th April
2000. The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not
an offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
What we can do here is to try to influence the make-up of the commission or
try to ensure that it is independent. We should remain vigilant to counter
any attempt to influence the commission. We can also insist that the students
alone are not held responsible but that responsibility for the shootings is
properly placed on those responsible. More suggestions on what we can do can
be forthcoming.
Maybe Tombong can be helpful in providing the names of students still under
detention and provide us with the number of students charged and released on
bail and the severity of the charges levelled against them.
We should keep the pressure to ensure that the government sticks by what it
has offered and to ensure that the rest of the petition items are respected.
All the planned activities should be followed.
At this point, I would like to suggest that we desist from using abusive
language as has been proposed by others earlier. People have vented their
frustrations and now should be the time for sober reflection and action.
Continuing to indulge in abusive language will not help our cause and might
have the negative impact of having people dismiss our seriousness. We have
charted a course and should follow it to ensure that justice prevails but let
us follow that course with dignity, firmness, vigilance and dedication. We
still have a long way to go. Thanks.
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Folks,
Is President Jammeh back from Cuba? If he did, has he made any comments =
(public or private) about the student riots?
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Hi folks,
Thanks for all your e-mail messages. And please keep them coming.
I have a number issues I want to touch on. First, Sheikh Tijan Nyang
informed us that Muslims all over The Gambia offered prayers yesterday
(Fri., April 14) for the dead and wounded, and also prayed for "peace and
tranquility" back home. The Christians, Mr. Nyang said, will be praying
tomorrow (Sunday, April 16). And I say it's well and good that people pray
for the dead and wounded. But at the same time, I fear that we are going
back to our old ways of being hypocritical, and bringing God into something
He has nothing to do with. The killings that happened in The Gambia were
perpetrated by human beings against not only other human beings, but against
their very own fellow citizens. It is thus a crying shame that we are
hiding behind our faiths as week seek solutions to the problem we face, and
answers to the questions we are asking.
Second, Momodou Buharry has suggested that we take the government up on it's
offer through the Attorney General's office to investigate the killings and
bring those guilty to book. That's all fine, but I hope that we also make
it clear that at this point, nothing short of a negotiated end of President
Jammeh's government will do. Simply put, Yaya must go. The fact of the
matter is that last week's killings are the latest in a list (long) of such.
And I don't think the government can provide any iron-clad guarantee this
won't happen again. Further, from what I gather, they have made it
abundantly clear that their security is priority number 1, and they really
couldn't clear less how much it (in lives and whatever) it costs to
accomplish that. I beg to disagree with them.
The postings we have been getting over the past week also indicate a glaring
lack of contributions (except for a few from Tombong Saidy, and forwarded
editorials from the press) from people who actually reside in The Gambia.
To me, this is a clear indication of the extent to which people back home
have been terrified into silence. This means that it is especially
important for those of us that can talk do so. Our voices must be raised
even higher, not only for ourselves, but all those who wished they could,
but cannot. Furthermore, me must show any and all that aim at preventing an
open discussion of what is of great concern to us that their efforts will
fail.
And regarding our need for translators, I would like to inform Mats Utbult
that his offer to help is greatly appreciated. We would need not only his
translation services but also any contacts and leads he can provide in
his/her community of journalists. Ditto with everyone who wants to help
with the Web project. We'll be working out the details in time.
I guess that's about it. Best wishes.
Katim
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From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 12:35 PM
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> Buharry,
>
> These are good suggestions since it is clear that the government is doing
the
> usual, seeing what criticism is levelled at them and then trying to cover
> themselves in those areas. It is also an encouragement to be vigilant
since
> they undoubtedly know that what is said here is exposing them to the
World,
> and if it saves a life, then let us keep up the heat. Including the
> suggestions you made into our plan is vital to ensuring that the
statements
> they make are not just empty promises to pacify the people for now.
>
> Jabou
>
> Hi!
>
> I think that we need to step back and take stock of our efforts and
> their results so far. I have reread the petition and I see that the
> government is making overtures regarding some of what is stated in it.
> Instead of blanket, reactionary dismissal of anything offered by the
> government or being blinded by emotions, I think we should devise
strategies
> to analyse and come up with recommendations regarding how we can ensure
the
> achievement of our goals while remaining firm. Examples of government
> overtures are:
>
> PETITION: - release the names of those killed and release their
> bodies to their relatives for proper burial;
>
> Tombong has released the names of those killed and injured. To ensure
that
> this is the total number, we should accept Tombong's challenge and
encourage
> all who have missing relatives to report their names to an agreed upon
person
> or news outlet. I think that Tombong should be thanked for the efforts in
> getting and publishing the names of the victims. He could have simply kept
> quiet just like the rest of the government.
>
> PETITION: - ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry
and
> the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law
> without undue delay;
>
> ATTORNEY GENERAL's STATEMENT: In view of the fact that the credibility of
> our criminal justice system is itself on trial, the Attorney General will
> take the unusual step of appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65
of
> the Criminal Procedure Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the
> deceased, friends of justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest
names
> of lawyers, (both at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the
> prosecution of the
> alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
>
>
> Instead of dismissing the AG's offer, let us take him up on it. He has
> suggested that the Bar Association, deceased's families and concerned
people
> outside can suggest names. Let us first ask him questions like how the
> selection procedure will take place, who will make the final selection,
the
> criteria for making such a selection etc. We should begin work on locating
a
> lawyer and try to co-ordinate our efforts with the Bar Association and the
> families of the deceased.
>
>
> PETITION: - launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and
> circumstances surrounding it;
>
> ATTORNEY GENERAL'S STATEMENT: I have invoked my powers under section
11(1)
> of the Coroner's Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is simultaneously being
> lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an inquest be held touching on
> the death of any persons as a result of the events of the 10th and 11th
April
> 2000. The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or
not
> an offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
>
> What we can do here is to try to influence the make-up of the commission
or
> try to ensure that it is independent. We should remain vigilant to counter
> any attempt to influence the commission. We can also insist that the
students
> alone are not held responsible but that responsibility for the shootings
is
> properly placed on those responsible. More suggestions on what we can do
can
> be forthcoming.
>
> Maybe Tombong can be helpful in providing the names of students still
under
> detention and provide us with the number of students charged and released
on
> bail and the severity of the charges levelled against them.
>
> We should keep the pressure to ensure that the government sticks by what
it
> has offered and to ensure that the rest of the petition items are
respected.
> All the planned activities should be followed.
>
> At this point, I would like to suggest that we desist from using abusive
> language as has been proposed by others earlier. People have vented their
> frustrations and now should be the time for sober reflection and action.
> Continuing to indulge in abusive language will not help our cause and
might
> have the negative impact of having people dismiss our seriousness. We have
> charted a course and should follow it to ensure that justice prevails but
let
> us follow that course with dignity, firmness, vigilance and dedication. We
> still have a long way to go. Thanks.
>
> >>
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Members of the Gambia-L should not be at all surprised by the brutality =
and callousness with which Jammeh's thugs acted. During the months of =
January and February, Ebou Colly warned us of what Jammeh and his cohort =
are capable of. One thing some members failed to realise was the fact =
that Ebou Colly was one of the trustworthy "Engineers" of Jammeh's =
diabolical junta. He knew more than any one of us on the List how =
ruthless and barbaric these people could be, but he was pilloried and =
lambasted by many members of this List on some insignificant issues. I =
think Ebou Colly now has the right to post a seven-word one-liner, which =
says "I told you so, brothers and sisters".
I am not, in any way saying, that If we had believed in Ebou Colley, the =
deaths of these innocent students would have been preventable, No!. You =
can call me a "Prophet of Doom" if you like, but from the postings of =
Ebou Colly, the events of 10th April are merely a taste of things to =
come. I foresee a far more sombre Gambia under this heartless, =
blood-tasty, half-educated and trigger-happy regime.
We can angrily demonstrate in New York, London, DC, Seattle and Helsinki =
but that will be "peanuts" to the average Gambian and we all know that =
they have so much of that that they don't even want to sell to the =
government. The issue here is; how can we stop these hoodlums before =
they turn our country into another Rwanda? =20
It is really a pity that Ebou Colly has decided to "hibernate", but this =
is really the time for him to reiterate his words. Among the many things =
that I agreed with him, one paragraph of his is evident in the actions =
of these killers. Ebou Colly wrote:
"These are men who have no virtues, carry little or no valuable =
knowledge in their heads and lacked every form of human conscience =
to make them good administrators".=20
(ebou colly: "Yaya's Power Base", 26 Jan. 2000)
All what happen on 10 April is wrapped up in that one paragraph. Unless =
something is done and done swiftly, these people will "overstay" and =
that will be detrimental to our beloved country. I think we should =
consider backing an existing political party in the Gambia, the UDP for =
example, to take over from these people because Yaya Should and Must Go.
Prince Coker
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how=20
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and=20
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insignificant issues. I=20
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says "I told you so, brothers and sisters".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am not, in any way saying, that If we =
had=20
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have been=20
preventable, No!. You can call me a "Prophet of Doom" if you like, =
but=20
from the postings of Ebou Colly, the events of 10th April are =
merely a=20
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regime.</FONT></DIV>
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London, DC,=20
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and we=20
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sell to the=20
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they turn=20
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decided to=20
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in the=20
actions of these killers. Ebou Colly wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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up in that=20
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will=20
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we=20
should consider backing an existing political party in the Gambia, the =
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Tombong
You sound so confident. I wish you are still the same Tombong I know in St.
Augustine's. I really admire you during those day as your junior. But I
doubt the credibility of your words.
Bamba
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>Gambia-lers,
>
>I am back in The Gambia and i will give a full report on the situation. I
>have spoken to almost all the authorities and i have also collected some
>facts from the hospital and other offices. I have the name of all those who
>were killed and where they come from.
>
>The silence of the list managers on the choice of words of madiba and those
>how supports the use of such language, is a testimony to the fact that
>there
>rules set for the Anti-Jammeh camp which a different from the Pro-Jammeh
>camp. I would not however respond by using such languages.
>
>I will be in Atlanta for the July 4th so saul and others who cannot wait to
>confront me in person, this is an opportunity. All my numbers are as
>follow:
>
>Home: (220) 46 20 20
>Office (220) 37 42 23
> 37 39 12-8
>Fax: (220) 37 42 42
>
>I am not one of those who run away from problems or criticisms. You can
>call
>me any time to insult or say whatever you want to. I learn from these
>things
>and they only make my convictions stronger.
>
>As for Jabou and the others, i have been a member of Amesty International
>for decades. A fee paying member for that matter. I am the Baord of
>Directors of Amnesty International Gambia on my merits. I never solicited
>for the post.
>
>I will give you guys an update and how i see the situation in the next few
>hours.
>
>PEACE
>
>TOMBONG
>
>
>
>
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>>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:54:32 +0200
>>
>>Please, give us more information of the happenings of the Students' demo.
>>The news is somewhat uncertain.
>>
>>Prince
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Katim,
A well thought-out piece, really. But from past experiences, I will agree
with you entirely on the question of some sort of a National Democratic
Organization - because this is a very long-term matter. (I will develop on
that theme subsequently).
In the mean time, I am looking at the situation, the drill, in this light:
1. The government's propaganda machinery is already set in motion, first, to
launch a DCO (Damage Control Operation). Its media outlets will engage in
the verminous practice of Blamimg the Victims:
The Observer, for instance, instead of publishing the names of the dead
students, and the manner in which they were murdered, went on instead to
emphasise their unruliness, the buildings they torched, the police whose
lives they threatened, etc.
2. The persistent efforts by shrieking officials to always align the
killings on the one hand and the "unacceptable" behaviour of the students on
the other, is a callous attempt to make everyone "realize" that indeed the
actions of the students are punishable.
3. Many of the student leaders will be arrested and eventually sent to jail;
and their organization will most probably, be banned.
4. Some officials will also be held liable for their actions. Perhaps the
Interior Minister will have to go; and the state would have persuaded itself
that it has handled the crisis adequately well.
So, unless that becomes the end of our struggle as well, we must brace up
for a permanent crusade.
Alpha and Karamba need to liaise and immeddiately identify individuals on
the ground in Gambia who will coordinate our solidarity with the families of
the victims; and that will just be the beginning.
Momodou S. Sidibeh
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Tombong, while your efforts to expose the truth should be appreciated, some of the information in your post seem to be inaccurate. The Observer has reported that there are two unidentified dead bodies at RVH as opposed to your claim of only one unidentified body.
Also, while you have partly justified the students' cause for action, you come short of condemning the law enforcement authorities and government that has committed blatant human rights abuses over the past 5 years or so. How can you call the killing of children under 15 an overreaction? Unless, you had a "mental block" during your attempt to describe the barbaric action of the law enforcement authorities, it is fair to say that your use of the word is a blatant attempt to hide the truth.
Furthermore, you state that because Yahya Jammeh has built schools and hospitals, calling him names is unfair. This, in my opinion, is a very irresponsible and ignorant statement from your part. Is it not his job as head of state to develop the country, or are we supposed to be grateful to him for building schools? Who are you trying to fool, or do you think that bribery tactics and patronizing the Gambian population will work? This is precisely the mentality that we need to get away from. The Gambian taxpayer and non-taxpayer, alike, deserve to have schools and facilities built for them, and this does not mean that there should be any reverence to the man. These facilities are the inherent right of every Gambian citizen.
Before ending this topic, a philosophical question? What ever happened to the Tombong Saidy, who on a sunny prize giving day afternoon at SAHS, stood on the stage and spoke for the rights of all students. You ended your speech by saying: "I might be gone but my spirit will remain forever." I was an 11 year old "freshman" at on that day. Well, FYI, your spirit might be hovering around somewhere but that same spirit has been corrupted and marginalized.
On a side note, Katim Touray raised an interesting point in his reference to the prayers for the departed by the various religious denominations. All Gambians need to pray at this very difficult time, but Katim is right, we should not leave the mosque or the church and forget about this series of tragic events. Instead, the Imams and the bishops should speak against this tyranical regime and encourage their congregations to continue the fight. After all, we need not fear or revere Yahya Jammeh, but God.
I would like to salute all the brothers and sisters who have offered their services towards the struggle to make sense of this strategy and eliminate the incompetent fools in power.
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Jammeh is propbably in Kanilai going over a list of real and potential scapegoats. He will summarily fire some of his associates and hire some new opportunists. Then, he would assume, the matter will just go away. But this time, "Jammeh Must Go!"
I hope the many organizations that spring up or come back to life ultimately engage in concerted, intensified actions to ensure that freedom and democracy prevail in the motherland.
In addition, I am proposing a meeting in Atlanta to bring together Gambians from southeastern US under a single organization for the cause of freedom and democracy in The Gambia. What do you think? We must act now!
Amadou Scattred Janneh
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apparently, he's in guinea bissau on a stop over flight to hammer-out the
recent clashes between senegal and guinea bissau, in which gambia is also
being implicated for providing vehicles used during the attack [gambia
insisting that, the vehicles were given to kumba yalla's army, not the
rebels/attackers, whoever attacked and killed 6 senegalese soldiers.
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AGENCE FRANCE PRESSE: GAMBIAN OPPOSITION CONDEMNS "BUTCHERY" AS GOV'T BLAMES
STUDENTS
Agence France Presse Intl. (AFM), Apr 13, 2000, 251 words
ATTENTION - NEW SERIES /// Gambia's opposition United Democratic Party (UDP)
condemned Thursday the "intolerable butchery" of recent unrest that left 14
dead as the government blamed the violence on the national students union.
The UDP demanded that an inquiry be opened into the violence that flared
earlier this week during a student protest over the death of fellow student
Ebrima Barry.
The students said Barry was tortured, while an official autopsy concluded he
died of natural causes.
Police shot at students as they pillaged houses, vandalised vehicles and
government buildings and set fire to police buildings and fire engines.
The UDP "firmly condemns the cruel assassination of these unarmed and
defenceless students who were only exercising their legitimate and
constitutional rights," the party said in a statement sent to AFP.
Earlier Thursday, Vice President Isatou Njie-Saidy blamed the violence on the
national students union GAMSU and "other unscrupulous people".
"It is confirmed that in fact the shooting started from the demonstrators
themselves, since the security forces at the time only had blank ammunition,
tear gas and batons," she said, without clarifying whether security forces
used real bullets once the violence had started.
Meanwhile, Gambia's Daily Observer newspaper reported Thursday that UDP
member Buba Samura was arrested on Monday during the violence for allegedly
encouraging the demonstrators.
His family still do not know where he is being held, the newspaper reported,
adding that some of those arrested during the violence have since been
released.
The health ministry reported that 96 people were registered by hospitals as
having been injured in the unrest.
Dozens of students have since fled from Bara into Senegal to avoid being
arrested, witnesses in Senegal said.
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I hope this posting is not insensitive in lieu of the recent spate of events back home.
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Mamadou Diallo scored twice during a three-goal first half as the Tampa Bay Mutiny snapped a 233-minute scoring drought and beat the Colorado Rapids 4-2 Saturday night.
Diallo's diving header in the 14th minute tied it at 1 and was the first Tampa Bay goal since March 25. He added his second goal, making it 3-1, in the 38th minute. Jorge Dely Valdes had two goals for Colorado.
Kalin Bankov scored in the 21st minute and Manny Lagos, who missed two games with an ankle injury, added a goal with just over a minute left for Tampa Bay.
Eric Quill, who entered with one career, had three Saturday night. Colorado opened the scoring on Valdes' goal in the 13th minute.
Valdes then got the Rapids within 3-2 in the 57th minute. The Mutiny are 3-0 at home, outscoring their opponents 10-3.
Tampa Bay's Raul Diaz Arce -- who has three goals in three games -- did not play because of an El Salvador National Team commitment.
Colorado goalkeeper Adin Brown and midfielder Joey DiGamarino are training with the U.S. Olympic Team.
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Solomon Njai wrote:
> apparently, he's in guinea bissau on a stop over flight to hammer-out the
> recent clashes between senegal and guinea bissau, in which gambia is also
> being implicated for providing vehicles used during the attack [gambia
> insisting that, the vehicles were given to kumba yalla's army, not the
> rebels/attackers, whoever attacked and killed 6 senegalese soldiers.
Howdy,
I thought someone on the list said earlier that Jammeh had a stopover in
Senegal and now it appears he is in G. Bissau as suggested above. Is this
part of his game plan to avoid the problem while tensions are at their
peak or is he really saying (not in words but by deed) that the lives lost
did not concern him? What happen to responsibility, accountability
and transparency as he claimed he was going to bring to government? This
is really really really sad. ...very sad indeed. We are the most
unfortunate people in the world today to have Jammeh as our
president. There is none out there like him.
At the moment, the future of our country is looking very bleak, desolate
and disheartening to say the least. However, we must not give up the
fight. The students have showed us what it really takes to make a
difference. I hope, even for once, that we did not forget the fight they
put forth to bring about a collective national voice calling for a
change. These students, dead or alive, are true heroes (an ordinary
people doing an incredible act to affect thousands, if not millions of
people). We have to keep the flame burning and build on the momentum
already generated. On that note, I submit my name to be put on any and
every mail edited to be sent to the authorities in the Gambia or any where
else deemed necessary to bring about change in the Gambia. I will also
send my contribution to Karamba and party over in the East to help the
victims and their families in this most unfortunate hard time. You are
all encouraged to pitch in how ever much you can to this worthy
cause. After all, this is nothing compared to what our brothers and
sisters had to pay (their lives, unfortunately).
Dawda Singhateh
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Tombong,
The first thing taught in broadcasting is YOU HAVE TO BE UNBIASED.
I have to say you BREAK all the RULES or YOU DON'T KNOW the Rules.
My brother George was merely applying the rules of journalism by giving BOTH
SIDES EQUAL TIME in his "call in" program. What a SHAME that you have to use
my brother as a scapegoat after all those innocent kids have been BUTCHERED.
Jabou, Thanks, I could not have said it better.
Astrid/
Jabou Joh Wrote:
Of course the powers that be wanted to put a stop to the "call in" program
offered by Radio 1 FM ( this is the first i have heard of GRTS offering
one,highly unlikely I'd say) as fast as possible because they saw that it
was a means for the people to share their feelings and their opposition to
this murderous regime you are defending.Numerous people in Gambia have told
me that people were begining to talk about a mass demonstration by the
public
when Yaya returns in these calls, and that some even said they will stand
infront of his motorcade even if they will be run over.
The first sign of an oppressive totalitarian government is their
determination to make sure that the people do not have a chance to
confer,and that they are kept ignorant of what is going on, because in this
process of confering and sharing of ideas lies their doom, and no one knows
it better than they.
There is nothing more telling than the fact that a foreign government had to
step in to defend the rights of George Christenson to accord the people an
organ of free speech in his own country, the abusers of this right being the
government of the day.
Tombong Saidy wrote:
Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with their
phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their action
has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a phone
in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good idea.
All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being said
over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the phone-in
programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the security.
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Yankuba,
please add me on the list.
Thanks.
Matarr Sajaw
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Saidykhan,
I agree with you on the history of Gamsu.
I was a student of Gambia College and very active at the
time of its formation. You see Gamsu is actually older than
1991. It was reborn and taken over by Gambia College after
we realized that it was not serving the needs of all students.
Hopefully Borra Mboge can tell Tombong more about this.
Gambian students have always shun oppression.
Tombong should do us all a favor and stop sending these
cometic emails about the Jammeh government.
Keep pressing on.
Thanks.
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hey Tombong,
It is very sad that you are using this tragic accassion to tell us about the
"good things" that Jammeh did for the youths of the Gambia. What a shame.
I have a question that has been lingering in me since i read press releases
from the defence secretary. If the students had guns with life ammunitions
with them, how come there was no security personnel among the dead?
God Bless and Peace Be Upon All.
Alasana Bah
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>Gambia-l,
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>As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after which I
>will
>give my analysis of the whole situation.
>
>NUMBER OF DECEASED
>
>According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were received at
>around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96
>patients
>seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 from
>Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have been
>discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central Division
>area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
>
>The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported from
>Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies were
>identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one unidentified
>body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
>
>DECEASED REGISTERED
>
># NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
>
>1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
>2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
>3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
>4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
>5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
>6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
>7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
>8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding ---------------
>9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
>10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra Leonean
>11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
>12. Unidentified Teenager
>
>Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay’s source, the bodies are being released as
>relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there was no
>order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be kept until
>the President’s return. Ebrima’s source also claimed that there are “14
>confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could you
>please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names of the
>remaining two death bodies.
>
>PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
>
>NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
>
>1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
>2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
>3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline Comprehensive
>4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
>5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
>6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
>7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
>8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
>9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
>10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau Station
>11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema Kunku)
>12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
>
> New Jeshwang)
>13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
>14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline Comprehensive
>15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
>16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo Town
>17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
>18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
>19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe
>20. Sana Bojang Civilian New Jeshwang
>21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High School
>22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
>23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
>24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine’s H. School
>25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
>26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
>27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
>28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
>29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
>30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
>31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
>
>REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
>
>Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
>Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
>Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
>Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
>
>TOTAL 128 Cases
>
>The above were treated and released.
>
>
>PRESS RELEASE
>
>As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
>constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competing,
>principles:
>
>i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to answer
>for
>it;
>
>ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair
>hearing.
>
>The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later convicted
>if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
>
>The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the Department
>of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role outlined
>above.
>
>In line with the Government’s commitment to the principles of transparency
>and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must not
>only
>be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers under
>section 11(1) of the Coroner’s Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
>simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an inquest
>be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the events of
>the 10th and 11th April 2000.
>
>The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not an
>offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
>
>As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be filed in
>the course of next week.
>
>In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice system is
>itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
>appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal Procedure
>Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends of
>justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers, (both
>at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of the
>alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
>
>The Attorney General’s Chambers will provide logical support; but will
>otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
>
>The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of local a
>prosecutor.
>
>As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General’s Chambers is handicapped by
>the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
>
>
>Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
>Attorney General & Secretary of State
>For Justice
>
>Attorney General’s Chambers &
>Department of State for Justice
>Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
>Banjul
>
>13 April, 2000
>
>
>
>Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take on this
>whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both sides of
>the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
>
>April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The Gambia,
>surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 – the KUKOI FIASCO. I join
>all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to the
>families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad event that
>could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
>
>The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the constitutional
>right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there are laws
>and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from a given
>authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a permit
>according to the authorities. The Department of State for the Interior sent
>a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses including GRTS
>claiming that they have received information on a potential strike being
>organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to seek
>permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
>demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of me, so I
>am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a permit, and
>they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunday April
>9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of States
>and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU Executive
>to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since the
>President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the
>Executive
>from the GTTI to StateHouse.
>
>On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of State for
>the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and to
>escort
>them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It was
>during
>this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some GAMSU
>Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various reasons.
>
>While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were negotiating,
>some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into GTTI.
>The
>Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell broke
>loose. I believe the security should and could have contained things and
>this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were emanating
>from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out numbered the
>police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI, students
>began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, Brikama
>Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and everything
>within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the
>majority
>of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some non-students
>seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot, destroy
>private and public properties, banks etc.
>
>The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place. Soldiers
>came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed,
>prisoners
>were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police and the
>armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and individuals,
>mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fact some
>civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody.
>
>Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths and
>injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about who stated
>the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sate for
>the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets. The
>Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event will
>verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is that not
>single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed students
>were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to do.
>
>The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank of
>Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were
>generally
>done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own ends. A
>lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this whole
>fiasco.
>
>Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with
>their
>phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their action
>has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a
>phone
>in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good idea.
>All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being said
>over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the phone-in
>programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the security.
>
>The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went beyond
>their control when other non-students joined in. The security was ill
>prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
>
>
>The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the
>handling
>of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The
>critics
>could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more for
>Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to
>Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by
>providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds around
>the
>country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them computers for
>their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van
>(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own telecentres
>(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just a
>few
>of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
>University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to power.
>Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time in the
>history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is very
>unfair.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>PEACE
>
>Tombong
>
>
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The President arrived early this morning and he will be addressing the
nation soon.
PEACE
TOMBONG
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>Folks,
>Is President Jammeh back from Cuba? If he did, has he made any comments
>(public or private) about the student riots?
>
>Malanding
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The President did not go to any other country after he left Cuba Saturday
night. The President travelled to Cuba with President Koumba Yalla and
President Yalla addressed the G77 meeting on Friday April 15. They left Cuba
together last night and were to arrive this morning, 7:00 AM. However, the
pilot gained time and they arrived earlier than expected.
As a matter of fact both Presidents are currently in The Gambia and
President Koumba Yalla is schedule to depart at 11:00 AM for Guinea Bissau.
PEACE
TOMBONG
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>Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:06:24 -0700
>
>On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Solomon Njai wrote:
>
> > apparently, he's in guinea bissau on a stop over flight to hammer-out
>the
> > recent clashes between senegal and guinea bissau, in which gambia is
>also
> > being implicated for providing vehicles used during the attack [gambia
> > insisting that, the vehicles were given to kumba yalla's army, not the
> > rebels/attackers, whoever attacked and killed 6 senegalese soldiers.
>
>Howdy,
>
>I thought someone on the list said earlier that Jammeh had a stopover in
>Senegal and now it appears he is in G. Bissau as suggested above. Is this
>part of his game plan to avoid the problem while tensions are at their
>peak or is he really saying (not in words but by deed) that the lives lost
>did not concern him? What happen to responsibility, accountability
>and transparency as he claimed he was going to bring to government? This
>is really really really sad. ...very sad indeed. We are the most
>unfortunate people in the world today to have Jammeh as our
>president. There is none out there like him.
>
>At the moment, the future of our country is looking very bleak, desolate
>and disheartening to say the least. However, we must not give up the
>fight. The students have showed us what it really takes to make a
>difference. I hope, even for once, that we did not forget the fight they
>put forth to bring about a collective national voice calling for a
>change. These students, dead or alive, are true heroes (an ordinary
>people doing an incredible act to affect thousands, if not millions of
>people). We have to keep the flame burning and build on the momentum
>already generated. On that note, I submit my name to be put on any and
>every mail edited to be sent to the authorities in the Gambia or any where
>else deemed necessary to bring about change in the Gambia. I will also
>send my contribution to Karamba and party over in the East to help the
>victims and their families in this most unfortunate hard time. You are
>all encouraged to pitch in how ever much you can to this worthy
>cause. After all, this is nothing compared to what our brothers and
>sisters had to pay (their lives, unfortunately).
>
>Dawda Singhateh
>
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Subject: In Memoriam
IN MEMORIAM
There is no laughter in those critters
No joy in their summer's day
They crawled and we uttered not a word
Often we cowered just to breathe another day
Let it be written by all the scribes that are known
It has been resolved here and nowhere else
The value of property is greater than the sanctity of life
Musa is dead because he broke a windowpane
For a mangled box Falieu was properly felled
Poor Fatou lost her life because the police chief lost his hat
There is no reprieve for Isaac from the Mountain
Let his blood run the slopes and drape the innocence below
We all sleep well tonight!
Raze their swings and bury their toys
Discard their Forlumas and burn their shoes
Dismantle and dismantle the children!
Quarantine their mothers and crate-up their fathers
Yahya reigns, so does seven yards of cotton and rain
Sleep well tonight everyone, sleep well the eternal sleep
****Long Spear****
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Mr. Saidy,
I have to commend you for the way you been defending the government and
yourself level-headedly and also providing us with information. Just to set
things straight, I strongly condemn the government's action against the
students. That action was criminal to put it mildly.
You stated in your email that you support the government's decision to stop
the phone-in programs on Radio 1. Don't you think it is in the best interest
of the country to let people let out their anger/frustration peacefully in
radio/TV programs rather than matching in the streets (which by the way they
have the right to do)? The way I see it, you either allow people to show their
anger through demonstrations (which can degenerate into violence when not
handled well, as we have all learnt) or let the people voice their objections
harmless in whichever medium they see fit. I don't know what alternatives the
government has to help the healing process. Defending the security forces who
killed and blaming the students who were the victims certainly won't help. If
the government is not willing to let people do what they have every right to
do, then the country should be prepared to see similar events in the future.
Ousman
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Subject: IN MEMORIAM (A 2nd Try)
Sorry, this message did not post right. I'll tray again. Imagine a "hard
return" i.e a "line break" wherever "/" is indicated.
IN MEMORIAM/
There is no laughter in those critters/
No joy in their summer's day/
They crawled and we uttered not a word/
Often we cowered just to breathe another day/
Let it be written by all scribes that are known/
It has been resolved here and nowhere else/
The value of property is greater than the sanctity of life/
Musa is dead because he broke a windowpane/
For a mangled box Falieu was properly felled/
Poor Fatou lost her life because the police chief lost his hat/
There is no reprieve for Isaac from the Mountain/
Let his blood run the slopes and drape the innocence below/
We all sleep well tonight!/
Raze their swings and bury their toys/
Discard their Formulas and burn their shoes/
Dismantle and dismantle the children!/
Quarantine their mothers and crate-up their fathers/
Yahya reins, so does seven yards of cotton and rain/
Sleep well tonight everyone, sleep well the eternal sleep
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Gajigo,
There were Phone-in programmes at GRTS Radio (Radio Gambia - which covers
the entire country) and SUD FM Banjul as well. All were asked to stop by the
authorities.
There is no ban on phone-in programmes in The Gambia. They were stopped
because at the time everyone was "pist-off" about the whole situation and
instead more ham was being done. The hosts of these programmes, the guests,
the callers were all angry and instead of engaging in a dialogue and trying
to calm down the situation, they were just exchanging accusations and
counter accusations. They were all blaming each other and threatening each
other. They were not calling for calm, but instead their actions and words
were just adding fuel to the already raging fire. This was the reason these
three radio stations were asked to stop the phone-in programmes.
There are times when certain undemocratic actions are taken to preserve
democracy, avoid anarchy etc. This was just one of those undemocratic
actions taken to help in restoring calm and tranquillity in the country.
When President Kennedy was assassinated in Texas and an investigation
ensued, there were certain information that were never released to the
public despite endless court battles from different fronts. Certain
information were classified and released only after 25 years or so. The same
applies to other matters such as the Watergate files. This has been done and
it is being done despite the existence of the Freedom of Information Act.
The authorities in the US knew that if some of the information were released
at the time, things could have gone out of control. They were released after
a "healing period". The same thing applies in this case.
I have listened to recorded versions of all three programmes and I am quite
sure if you had listen to them, you would have come to the same conclusion.
PEACE
TOMBONG
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:12:47 +0100
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Mr President,
Whatever lie you have prepared to tell the Gambians, put in that your muddy
brain that Gambians have made up their mind. You knew what happen to the
Great Students. You knew and ordered their killing therefore you must not
come up with any bogus sympathy. If you cannot take this opportunity to
announce the end of your disgraceful term in office ( which you hijacked)
then ,we Gambians are sorry and need no more lie.
Mr President, your cronies have already fought and still continue to fight
hard to crook the truth. Unlike your killings in the army, you mistakely
carried out this one in broad day light and in the presence of the Gambian
public. This have made your task of bending the truth more powerful than
your 'Jalang`s ' power. If you really are not going to speak the truth that
will crumble you bucthery regime, please, please do not go ahead with your
so call address.
A.Drammeh.
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> The President arrived early this morning and he will be addressing the
> nation soon.
>
>
> PEACE
>
> TOMBONG
>
> >From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <[log in to unmask]>
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> >Folks,
> >Is President Jammeh back from Cuba? If he did, has he made any comments
> >(public or private) about the student riots?
> >
> >Malanding
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Tombong,
any speech short of announcing Jammeh's resignation from the office of
the presidency would not be welcomed by any Gambian especially on this List
where are smart enough to see through your smoke screens. this is the
irrefutable truth. tell your master to do us all a favour and resign. it is
the only way to bring sanity back to our country.
what is he going to say this time around that his little spittles like
you and else haven't said yet? What..............? He is going to
sack/sacrifice the VP and promote Tombong Saidy to Chief Butler? Who has the
time to listen to his puerile whimpers about this was caused by the
opposition and bad elements of society? That the culprits will be brought to
justice? Haven't we heard that song again and again?
please if he has nothing to say about his resignation, save the List from
being choked with his insincere rambling and crocodile tears. We still have
the memories of the Koro Ceesay tragedy freshly stamped on our memories. This
time around we wouldn't accord you the privilege of listening to your half
truths, endless spins and massaging of glaring realities.
LET JAMMEH RESIGN FORTHWITH. NOTHING SHORT OF THIS IS NOT WELCOMED HERE.
Hamjatta Kanteh
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Again Tombong is attempting the same nauseating obfuscations regarding the
President's arrival. It is true that the Presidents stipulated time of
arrival was for 7.00am Gambian time and good old Tombong did say that, he
however purposefully omitted to say that the President instead sneaked in at
2.30 in the morning. In an attempt to explain away such a cowardly action by
a sitting head of state Mr Saidy wants us to believe "the pilot gained time"
. Just exactly how does a pilot gain time? Aircraft departure and arrival
times are fairly routine and predicable especially for relatively short
commutes like flying from Cuba to Gambia.. This is simply a calculated
fallacy. Here is what happened exactly: The Presidents Aircraft landed at
2.30am. As soon as the plane came to a stop at the tarmac, all lights were
temporarily shut off and the President quickly got into a waiting vehicle
and sped away. That's it! This is from a source at the airport. You will
realise Mr Saidy did not tell us about the President's usually rumbling
motorcade that routinely choke the pothole filled streets any time he comes
from the airport. What has gotten to Tombong Saidy? The guy is worse than a
Soviet era propaganda commissar. He does not seem to realise that theirs is a
lost cause. Even more I don't know why he feels the need spin the kinds of
fanciful tales to members of this list. This is not GRTS!
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Hamjatta/Aziz/E Ceesay&Others
Please send me any vital information(meeting place ,time,access tube
etc)relevant to the propose demonstration in Uk.I am willing to dessiminate
message to all concious/concern Gambians I can reach in the Berkshire county
''TIME FOR ACTION !! JAMMEH'S DICTATORIAL REGIME MUST GO''
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On Africa's Fluid Borders, My Land Is Your LandMr Touray,
I guess this is what you were trying to send to the list.
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April 16, 2000
On Africa's Fluid Borders, My Land Is Your Land
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By NORIMITSU ONISHI
ARAFENNI, Gambia -- When Abdoulaye Sowe built his mud house =
along a dirt road that links this country with Senegal a year ago, he =
chose a spot a few hundred feet north of the Senegalese border guard's =
straw shack.=20
North of the shack lay Senegal; south of it, Gambia. So Mr. =
Sowe, a Senegalese farmer new to the area, slept soundly in the belief =
that his house was well inside Senegal.=20
Then some old-timers told him that the guard's shack was built =
only a couple of years ago, and that before that the border guard had =
sat for years on the roots of a large tree. Indeed, the tree -- standing =
several hundred feet north of the shack and Mr. Sowe's house -- was long =
regarded as the borderline.=20
So overnight the farmer found himself, in mind if not in =
reality, inside Gambia, a newcomer to the familiar no man's land of an =
African border town.=20
"It seems that I am both in Senegal and the Gambia," said Mr. =
Sowe as he lay on the ground of his courtyard on a recent Friday =
afternoon. "But I am not sure. I have not made inquiries."=20
What Mr. Sowe the newcomer might not know is that more than in =
any other corner of the world, borders in Africa are fluid and porous. =
On the world's maps, its borders remain the absurd legacy of European =
colonialists who carved up the continent more than a century ago without =
consulting any Africans.=20
But African life on the ground often ignores the existence of =
borders, responding to the far stronger forces of family, ethnicity, =
commerce and language.=20
All those things are shared by the Gambians and Senegalese. =
That is not surprising, because Gambia is an enclave -- described =
variously, and usually unflatteringly, as having the shape of a worm or =
tongue -- inside Senegal. The British clung to this piece of land in =
French West Africa in the never-realized hopes of exploiting the Gambia =
River, considered one of the best navigable rivers in Africa.=20
And so colonial map drawing reached an absurd extreme here: =
Gambia is about 300 miles long, though only about 15 miles wide, a good =
jog north to south if not for the lack of bridges on the river, which =
flows east to west.=20
The maps, though, were never that precise, as Mr. Sowe's =
sudden move to Gambia showed. Did the border shift? Did the guard tire =
of sitting on a tree root? Those questions and others would have been =
put to the guard. But on the recent Friday the guard was not there. =
Maybe he was off to afternoon prayers. Maybe there was other pressing =
business.=20
No matter. People came and went, Senegalese and Gambians =
alike, mostly on donkey carts. Unlike the bigger crossing a few miles =
west, this one had no sign at the border.=20
"Gambians and Senegalese are from the same families," said Ali =
Sallah, 40, a tailor who named his shop "Senegambia" because he, like =
many people, leads businesses and lives in both countries.=20
"Whoever is from the Gambia has relatives in Senegal," he =
said. "And whoever is from Senegal has relatives here. Nobody can divide =
us. So it's better to unite."=20
The obverse of the borderless life that Mr. Sallah and his =
family live has been political leaders' insistence on the inviolability =
of Africa's colonial borders.=20
Even though the artificiality of the borders has contributed =
to wars and stunted economic growth -- in this instance, by leaving the =
Gambia River unused -- politicians have held on to territories whose =
geography nearly condemns them to poverty.=20
Africa remains sliced up into strangely shaped nations: some =
jagged, little ones like Gambia with a million people; others mammoth =
places whose sparse populations are hemmed in by long straight lines.=20
Most Gambians offer a quick explanation as to why their =
politicians resist the pull to unite with Senegal: they do not want to =
share power. Most leaders, as Caesar admitted, would rather be No. 1 in =
a small village in Gaul than No. 2 in Rome.=20
"If you are president, even of a small country like the =
Gambia, you always have a group of people to dance for you and a red =
carpet that will be unfolded in front of you," said Halifa Sallah, a =
well-known sociologist who is also involved in politics in the capital, =
Banjul.=20
In the 1980's Gambia and Senegal briefly formed a =
confederation, called Senegambia. But political squabbling doomed the =
union. Recently, after an independent member of the Gambian Parliament, =
Hamat Bah, resurrected the idea, a newspaper cartoon depicted him =
picking up a carcass with the old confederation's name on it.=20
"Politicians are being short-sighted," Mr. Bah said in an =
interview in his office in Banjul. "Confederation is critical to the =
long-term economic and political development of the Gambia and Senegal. =
It would open up the River Gambia to get goods not only through our two =
countries, but from all of West Africa."=20
Instead, Mr. Bah added, the river has "narrowed down in many =
spots."=20
"It's not as easily navigable as it used to be," he said, =
"because not many big boats are passing through, and no one is dredging =
it."=20
In Banjul, on the streets near the Gambia National Transport =
Control Association, trucks destined for the Gambian interior -- as well =
as Senegal, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Mali and Mauritania -- were being =
loaded with goods. Twenty-eight such trucks leave Banjul every day for =
various parts of Gambia, said Alieu Ngum, the association's field =
coordinator. Scores leave every week for the neighboring nations.=20
"No one uses the river now," Mr. Ngum said.=20
Borders may harm Gambia's long-term growth. In the short term, =
though, they benefit many people. Gambia's import duties are =
considerably lower than those in the rest of the region. So the trucks =
being loaded contain many goods that Gambia, serving as a transit point, =
simply brings in and then "re-exports."=20
Often the re-exporting is simple smuggling, sometimes done by =
paying off a customs guard to avoid further duties. Whatever the method, =
it is easier to do on land than on the river. Re-exporting may add =
little to building up Gambia's economy, but it brings in a third of the =
country's gross domestic product.=20
Here in Farafenni, about 75 miles east of Banjul, after the =
Trans-Gambian Highway was built four decades ago, linking the northern =
and southern halves of Senegal, thousands gravitated here, said =
Sambujang Jagne, 64, this town's traditional chief. Nationality mattered =
little. English was the official language on this side of the border, =
French on the other side. But African languages bridged the gap.=20
Here, as elsewhere in Africa, colonial officers divided ethnic =
groups and families when they drew boundaries.=20
To the British, what counted was the Gambia River, which =
promised access to the African interior. The only problem was that the =
surrounding region was under the control of the French.=20
Unable to exploit the river fully, the British tried to sell =
the territory to the French, or swap it for another. But the French, =
having built railways to circumvent their lack of access to the river, =
were not interested.=20
Britain believed that an independent Gambia would not survive =
and fully expected its former colony to form some sort of union with =
Senegal. The Senegambia confederation was born after Gambia's longtime =
prime minister, Dawda Jawara, was toppled in a coup while attending the =
wedding of Prince Charles and Lady Diana in 1980. After the Senegalese =
military placed him back in power, he agreed to the confederation.=20
But Senegambia -- which was supposed to integrate things like =
security and foreign policy -- led nowhere and eventually died when =
Senegal pulled its troops out of Banjul one morning without warning.=20
"Senegal wanted full political and economic integration," said =
Halifa Sallah, the sociologist. "But Gambia did not want that, because =
it would have wiped out the economic advantage it has with low import =
tariffs."=20
Since the formal dissolution of Senegambia in 1989, the two =
countries have drifted further apart.=20
Senegal, nearly 20 times the size of Gambia, has become a =
democratic society, although with a violent separatist movement in =
Casamance, a region isolated from the rest of Senegal, and left =
underdeveloped and angry.=20
Gambia, by contrast, has slipped into petty despotism since a =
29-year-old army lieutenant, Yahya Jammeh, seized power in 1994. Shunned =
by Western donors, Gambia turned to Libya and was the only country to =
support Nigeria under the military dictator Sani Abacha.=20
In the last year, with rumors of a possible coup circulating, =
President Jammeh has seldom been seen in Banjul, spending most of his =
time in Kanilai, his home village.=20
The dream of Senegambia seems to fade with each day, surviving =
only in places like the tailor shop here.=20
"When I moved from Senegal to Farafenni, I knew I had =
relatives here," said one of the tailors, Ibrahim Janneh, 25. "But when =
I arrived in Farafenni, I found there were more than I had expected. I'm =
Senegambian."=20
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<H5>By NORIMITSU ONISHI</H5></NYT_BYLINE><IMG align=3Dleft =
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src=3D"/images/f.gif">ARAFENNI, Gambia -- When Abdoulaye Sowe =
built his=20
mud house along a dirt road that links this country with =
Senegal a=20
year ago, he chose a spot a few hundred feet north of the =
Senegalese=20
border guard's straw shack.=20
<P>North of the shack lay Senegal; south of it, Gambia. So Mr. =
Sowe, a=20
Senegalese farmer new to the area, slept soundly in the belief =
that=20
his house was well inside Senegal.=20
<P>Then some old-timers told him that the guard's shack was =
built only=20
a couple of years ago, and that before that the border guard =
had sat=20
for years on the roots of a large tree. Indeed, the tree -- =
standing=20
several hundred feet north of the shack and Mr. Sowe's house =
-- was=20
long regarded as the borderline.=20
<P>So overnight the farmer found himself, in mind if not in =
reality,=20
inside Gambia, a newcomer to the familiar no man's land of an =
African=20
border town.=20
<P>"It seems that I am both in Senegal and the Gambia," said =
Mr. Sowe=20
as he lay on the ground of his courtyard on a recent Friday =
afternoon.=20
"But I am not sure. I have not made inquiries."=20
<P>What Mr. Sowe the newcomer might not know is that more than =
in any=20
other corner of the world, borders in Africa are fluid and =
porous. On=20
the world's maps, its borders remain the absurd legacy of =
European=20
colonialists who carved up the continent more than a century =
ago=20
without consulting any Africans.=20
<P>But African life on the ground often ignores the existence =
of=20
borders, responding to the far stronger forces of family, =
ethnicity,=20
commerce and language.=20
<P>All those things are shared by the Gambians and Senegalese. =
That is=20
not surprising, because Gambia is an enclave -- described =
variously,=20
and usually unflatteringly, as having the shape of a worm or =
tongue --=20
inside Senegal. The British clung to this piece of land in =
French West=20
Africa in the never-realized hopes of exploiting the Gambia =
River,=20
considered one of the best navigable rivers in Africa.=20
<P>And so colonial map drawing reached an absurd extreme here: =
Gambia=20
is about 300 miles long, though only about 15 miles wide, a =
good jog=20
north to south if not for the lack of bridges on the river, =
which=20
flows east to west.=20
<P>The maps, though, were never that precise, as Mr. Sowe's =
sudden=20
move to Gambia showed. Did the border shift? Did the guard =
tire of=20
sitting on a tree root? Those questions and others would have =
been put=20
to the guard. But on the recent Friday the guard was not =
there. Maybe=20
he was off to afternoon prayers. Maybe there was other =
pressing=20
business.=20
<P>No matter. People came and went, Senegalese and Gambians =
alike,=20
mostly on donkey carts. Unlike the bigger crossing a few miles =
west,=20
this one had no sign at the border.=20
<P>"Gambians and Senegalese are from the same families," said =
Ali=20
Sallah, 40, a tailor who named his shop "Senegambia" because =
he, like=20
many people, leads businesses and lives in both countries.=20
<P>"Whoever is from the Gambia has relatives in Senegal," he =
said.=20
"And whoever is from Senegal has relatives here. Nobody can =
divide us.=20
So it's better to unite."=20
<P>The obverse of the borderless life that Mr. Sallah and his =
family=20
live has been political leaders' insistence on the =
inviolability of=20
Africa's colonial borders.=20
<P>Even though the artificiality of the borders has =
contributed to=20
wars and stunted economic growth -- in this instance, by =
leaving the=20
Gambia River unused -- politicians have held on to territories =
whose=20
geography nearly condemns them to poverty.=20
<P>Africa remains sliced up into strangely shaped nations: =
some=20
jagged, little ones like Gambia with a million people; others =
mammoth=20
places whose sparse populations are hemmed in by long straight =
lines.=20
<P>Most Gambians offer a quick explanation as to why their =
politicians=20
resist the pull to unite with Senegal: they do not want to =
share=20
power. Most leaders, as Caesar admitted, would rather be No. 1 =
in a=20
small village in Gaul than No. 2 in Rome.=20
<P>"If you are president, even of a small country like the =
Gambia, you=20
always have a group of people to dance for you and a red =
carpet that=20
will be unfolded in front of you," said Halifa Sallah, a =
well-known=20
sociologist who is also involved in politics in the capital, =
Banjul.=20
<P>In the 1980's Gambia and Senegal briefly formed a =
confederation,=20
called Senegambia. But political squabbling doomed the union.=20
Recently, after an independent member of the Gambian =
Parliament, Hamat=20
Bah, resurrected the idea, a newspaper cartoon depicted him =
picking up=20
a carcass with the old confederation's name on it.=20
<P>"Politicians are being short-sighted," Mr. Bah said in an =
interview=20
in his office in Banjul. "Confederation is critical to the =
long-term=20
economic and political development of the Gambia and Senegal. =
It would=20
open up the River Gambia to get goods not only through our two =
countries, but from all of West Africa."=20
<P>Instead, Mr. Bah added, the river has "narrowed down in =
many=20
spots."=20
<P>"It's not as easily navigable as it used to be," he said, =
"because=20
not many big boats are passing through, and no one is dredging =
it."=20
<P>In Banjul, on the streets near the Gambia National =
Transport=20
Control Association, trucks destined for the Gambian interior =
-- as=20
well as Senegal, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Mali and Mauritania -- =
were=20
being loaded with goods. Twenty-eight such trucks leave Banjul =
every=20
day for various parts of Gambia, said Alieu Ngum, the =
association's=20
field coordinator. Scores leave every week for the neighboring =
nations.=20
<P>"No one uses the river now," Mr. Ngum said.=20
<P>Borders may harm Gambia's long-term growth. In the short =
term,=20
though, they benefit many people. Gambia's import duties are=20
considerably lower than those in the rest of the region. So =
the trucks=20
being loaded contain many goods that Gambia, serving as a =
transit=20
point, simply brings in and then "re-exports."=20
<P>Often the re-exporting is simple smuggling, sometimes done =
by=20
paying off a customs guard to avoid further duties. Whatever =
the=20
method, it is easier to do on land than on the river. =
Re-exporting may=20
add little to building up Gambia's economy, but it brings in a =
third=20
of the country's gross domestic product.=20
<P>Here in Farafenni, about 75 miles east of Banjul, after the =
Trans-Gambian Highway was built four decades ago, linking the =
northern=20
and southern halves of Senegal, thousands gravitated here, =
said=20
Sambujang Jagne, 64, this town's traditional chief. =
Nationality=20
mattered little. English was the official language on this =
side of the=20
border, French on the other side. But African languages =
bridged the=20
gap.=20
<P>Here, as elsewhere in Africa, colonial officers divided =
ethnic=20
groups and families when they drew boundaries.=20
<P>To the British, what counted was the Gambia River, which =
promised=20
access to the African interior. The only problem was that the=20
surrounding region was under the control of the French.=20
<P>Unable to exploit the river fully, the British tried to =
sell the=20
territory to the French, or swap it for another. But the =
French,=20
having built railways to circumvent their lack of access to =
the river,=20
were not interested.=20
<P>Britain believed that an independent Gambia would not =
survive and=20
fully expected its former colony to form some sort of union =
with=20
Senegal. The Senegambia confederation was born after Gambia's =
longtime=20
prime minister, Dawda Jawara, was toppled in a coup while =
attending=20
the wedding of Prince Charles and Lady Diana in 1980. After =
the=20
Senegalese military placed him back in power, he agreed to the =
confederation.=20
<P>But Senegambia -- which was supposed to integrate things =
like=20
security and foreign policy -- led nowhere and eventually died =
when=20
Senegal pulled its troops out of Banjul one morning without =
warning.=20
<P>"Senegal wanted full political and economic integration," =
said=20
Halifa Sallah, the sociologist. "But Gambia did not want that, =
because=20
it would have wiped out the economic advantage it has with low =
import=20
tariffs."=20
<P>Since the formal dissolution of Senegambia in 1989, the two =
countries have drifted further apart.=20
<P>Senegal, nearly 20 times the size of Gambia, has become a=20
democratic society, although with a violent separatist =
movement in=20
Casamance, a region isolated from the rest of Senegal, and =
left=20
underdeveloped and angry.=20
<P>Gambia, by contrast, has slipped into petty despotism since =
a=20
29-year-old army lieutenant, Yahya Jammeh, seized power in =
1994.=20
Shunned by Western donors, Gambia turned to Libya and was the =
only=20
country to support Nigeria under the military dictator Sani =
Abacha.=20
<P>In the last year, with rumors of a possible coup =
circulating,=20
President Jammeh has seldom been seen in Banjul, spending most =
of his=20
time in Kanilai, his home village.=20
<P>
<P>The dream of Senegambia seems to fade with each day, =
surviving only=20
in places like the tailor shop here.=20
<P>"When I moved from Senegal to Farafenni, I knew I had =
relatives=20
here," said one of the tailors, Ibrahim Janneh, 25. "But when =
I=20
arrived in Farafenni, I found there were more than I had =
expected. I'm=20
Senegambian."=20
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Deyda Hydara has demonstrated again that in his profession---getting to the
truth is the ultimate objective. Deyda and the Point deserve the p"Putlizer". It
is also very troubling that Isatoe Njie Saidy is willing to compromise her very
SELF by distorting the truth. What happen to character and principles ? In our
Gambian communities, these are scarce commoddities.
As Dr Saine aptly put it " No justice------No peace
Musa jeng
Hamjatta Kanteh wrote:
> Deyda and the HONEST DEDICATED PATRIOTIC folks of The Point Newspaper,
> don't let the obstacles they place before you get you down. You have won
> our admiration and total respect for bluntly stating the facts as they
> happened. As you poignantly observed, if school kids can face hails of the
> butchers' bullets, what about us elders. They can only kill us once and
> Jannah awaits he who perseveres in seeking the truth and nothing but the
> truth. Keep up the good work!
>
> Hamjatta Kanteh
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Mr Saidy,
You might not know this but there was a similar
demonstration in 1971 in which all the schools in Banjul and environs
participitated. The police were unable to control us,they had to call for
help from the Field Force,who were able to control the situation after
several hours!!I can't remember any serious injuries ,there were certainly
no fatalities!! The "Deporians" were illitirate but they were definately not
PHILISTINES!!
KUTS
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> hey Tombong,
> It is very sad that you are using this tragic accassion to tell us about
the
> "good things" that Jammeh did for the youths of the Gambia. What a shame.
> I have a question that has been lingering in me since i read press
releases
> from the defence secretary. If the students had guns with life ammunitions
> with them, how come there was no security personnel among the dead?
> God Bless and Peace Be Upon All.
> Alasana Bah
>
> >From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: UPDATE
> >Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:16:16 PDT
> >
> >Gambia-l,
> >
> >As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after which I
> >will
> >give my analysis of the whole situation.
> >
> >NUMBER OF DECEASED
> >
> >According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were received at
> >around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96
> >patients
> >seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 from
> >Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have been
> >discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central Division
> >area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
> >
> >The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported from
> >Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies were
> >identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one
unidentified
> >body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
> >
> >DECEASED REGISTERED
> >
> ># NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
> >
> >1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
> >2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
> >3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
> >4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
> >5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
> >6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
> >7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
> >8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding ---------------
> >9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
> >10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra Leonean
> >11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
> >12. Unidentified Teenager
> >
> >Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay’s source, the bodies are being released as
> >relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there was no
> >order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be kept
until
> >the President’s return. Ebrima’s source also claimed that there are “14
> >confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could you
> >please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names of
the
> >remaining two death bodies.
> >
> >PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
> >
> >NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
> >
> >1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
> >2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
> >3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline Comprehensive
> >4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
> >5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
> >6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
> >7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
> >8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
> >9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
> >10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau Station
> >11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema Kunku)
> >12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
> >
> > New Jeshwang)
> >13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
> >14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline Comprehensive
> >15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
> >16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo Town
> >17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
> >18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
> >19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe
> >20. Sana Bojang Civilian New Jeshwang
> >21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High School
> >22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
> >23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
> >24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine’s H. School
> >25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
> >26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
> >27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
> >30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
> >31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
> >
> >REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
> >
> >Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
> >Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
> >Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
> >Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
> >
> >TOTAL 128 Cases
> >
> >The above were treated and released.
> >
> >
> >PRESS RELEASE
> >
> >As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
> >constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competing,
> >principles:
> >
> >i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to answer
> >for
> >it;
> >
> >ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair
> >hearing.
> >
> >The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later
convicted
> >if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
> >
> >The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the
Department
> >of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role outlined
> >above.
> >
> >In line with the Government’s commitment to the principles of
transparency
> >and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must not
> >only
> >be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers under
> >section 11(1) of the Coroner’s Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
> >simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an
inquest
> >be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the events of
> >the 10th and 11th April 2000.
> >
> >The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not an
> >offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
> >
> >As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be filed
in
> >the course of next week.
> >
> >In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice system
is
> >itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
> >appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal Procedure
> >Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends of
> >justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers,
(both
> >at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of the
> >alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
> >
> >The Attorney General’s Chambers will provide logical support; but will
> >otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
> >
> >The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of local
a
> >prosecutor.
> >
> >As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General’s Chambers is handicapped
by
> >the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
> >
> >
> >Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
> >Attorney General & Secretary of State
> >For Justice
> >
> >Attorney General’s Chambers &
> >Department of State for Justice
> >Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
> >Banjul
> >
> >13 April, 2000
> >
> >
> >
> >Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take on this
> >whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both sides
of
> >the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
> >
> >April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The Gambia,
> >surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 – the KUKOI FIASCO. I
join
> >all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to the
> >families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad event
that
> >could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
> >
> >The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the
constitutional
> >right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there are
laws
> >and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from a
given
> >authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a permit
> >according to the authorities. The Department of State for the Interior
sent
> >a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses including
GRTS
> >claiming that they have received information on a potential strike being
> >organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to seek
> >permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
> >demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of me, so
I
> >am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a permit,
and
> >they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunday
April
> >9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of
States
> >and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU
Executive
> >to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since the
> >President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the
> >Executive
> >from the GTTI to StateHouse.
> >
> >On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of State for
> >the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and to
> >escort
> >them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It was
> >during
> >this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some GAMSU
> >Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various reasons.
> >
> >While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were negotiating,
> >some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into GTTI.
> >The
> >Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell broke
> >loose. I believe the security should and could have contained things and
> >this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were
emanating
> >from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out numbered
the
> >police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI,
students
> >began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, Brikama
> >Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and everything
> >within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the
> >majority
> >of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some non-students
> >seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot, destroy
> >private and public properties, banks etc.
> >
> >The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place.
Soldiers
> >came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed,
> >prisoners
> >were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police and the
> >armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and individuals,
> >mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fact
some
> >civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody.
> >
> >Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths and
> >injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about who
stated
> >the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sate for
> >the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets. The
> >Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event will
> >verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is that
not
> >single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed
students
> >were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to do.
> >
> >The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank of
> >Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were
> >generally
> >done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own ends.
A
> >lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this whole
> >fiasco.
> >
> >Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with
> >their
> >phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their action
> >has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a
> >phone
> >in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good
idea.
> >All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being
said
> >over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the phone-in
> >programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the security.
> >
> >The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went
beyond
> >their control when other non-students joined in. The security was ill
> >prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
> >
> >
> >The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the
> >handling
> >of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The
> >critics
> >could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more for
> >Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to
> >Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by
> >providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds around
> >the
> >country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them computers
for
> >their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van
> >(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own telecentres
> >(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just a
> >few
> >of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
> >University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to power.
> >Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time in
the
> >history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is very
> >unfair.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >PEACE
> >
> >Tombong
> >
> >
> >
> >
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ON THE WAY FORWARD
Letter To The Attorney General on the Current Situation
It is a trite perception in jurisprudence that justice must be done and be
seen to be done. This elucidates the cornerstone of a just judicial system.
No one can doubt that justice has two components. One is to administer law
without fear or favour, affection or ill-will. The other is for the public
mind to accept that laws have been administered without fear or favour,
affection or ill-will.
Once the two components of justice are satisfied without delay, the vast
majority of people are bound to have confidence and trust in a judicial
system. In that respect, restraint will always bind their actions in order
to wait for the due process of law to take its course. People's expectations
of a judicial system contribute a great deal to social cohesion or the break
down of social order.
In short, if a country is exposed to any situation which engenders the risk
of a conflict between expectation of what should be done and the failure to
meet such an expectation, social crisis becomes inevitable. To contain such
a crisis would require the undertaking of activities that are consistent
with the restoration of the fundamental principles which bind a proper
judicial order. This means that measures should be undertaken to restore the
balance on the scales of justice so that people will come to see that what
has been left undone has been done without undue delay and that no situation
will emerge in the future without being addressed in a convincing manner
without delay.
As you have rightly said in your press release of 13 April 2000, "the
credibility of our criminal justice system itself is on trial" How the
present crisis is handled is, therefore, of fundamental importance. Under
section 73 of the Constitution, subsection (2) "The Attorney General shall
be the principal legal adviser to the government...." You role is of
supreme importance.
Many things have already been said. Press conferences have been convened
during which cabinet members tried to explain how the government intends to
handle the crisis. There has been a major debate as to whether live bullets
have been utilised or not. Most of the information has, at best, been
speculative and, at worst, evasive.
What has become a matter of consolation is your press release of 13 April
2000. You have given assurance that you intend to pave a new path for the
system of dispensation of justice in cases that are of public interest. We
intend to give amplification to your assurances so that it will prevail over
the speculative testimonies which have been creating a lot of distrust that
justice will ever be done.
You made the following categorical statement in your press release of 13
April 2000:
"As the Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competing,
principles:
"i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to answer
for it;
"ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair
hearing.
"The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later convicted
if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
"The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the Department
of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role outlined
above.
"In line with Government's commitment to the principles of transparency and
accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must not only be
done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers under section
11(1) of the Coroner's Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is simultaneously
being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an inquest be held
touching on the death of any persons as a result of the events of the 10th
and 11th April 2000.
"The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not an
offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
"As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be filed in
the course of next week.
"In view of the fact the credibility of our criminal justice system itself
is on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of appointing a
Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal Procedure Code. The
Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends of justice (at
home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers, (both at home and
abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of the alleged
murderers of Ebrima Barry.
The Attorney General's Chambers will provide logical support; but will
otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
"The State will, however, only be responsible for meeting the cost of a
local prosecutor.
"The Attorney General's Chambers will consider any other suggestion that
ensures a speedy and fair trial of the case.
"As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General's Chambers is handicapped by
the absence of identification of the alleged culprits. Investigations are
still in progress and the public is urged to come up with any information
that may lead to the identification and possible arrest of the alleged
culprits."
These steps are unprecedented. It is absolutely essential for all of us to
play our role to ensure that they are not mere declarations.
Four fundamental tasks can be adduced from the press release. First and
foremost, there is to be a Coroner's Inquest touching on the death of any
persons as a result of the events of 10 and 11 April 2000.
Of course, the dates need to be extended to cover any death associated with
GAMSU's plan to hold a demonstration. Your Department of State needs to
utilise the radio and television to explain very clearly how a Coroner's
Inquest is conducted and call on the public to be ready to give any
information touching on the death of any person without having any fear of
victimization. This is a very important component of the task.
Secondly, you have indicated your plan to appoint a Public Prosecutor under
section 65 of the Criminal Procedure Code to conduct the prosecution of the
alleged murderers of Ebrima Barry.
It will be important for your Department of State to address an official
letter to the Gambia Bar Association and the main advocacy groups in this
country for human rights, such as the African Society of International and
Comparative Law, inviting them to suggest names of lawyers who would be
willing to serve as Public Prosecutors.
We shall be making consultation with relevant institutions and individuals
and would give our own suggestions as soon as possible. We hope all
Gambians, especially those living abroad, will take this matter seriously
and play their quota in ensuring that words are backed with deeds.
The third task you have mentioned in your press release is the issue of the
alleged rape of Binta Manneh. It is rather unfortunate that the issue became
a matter of discussion during the press conference convened at the
Department of State for the Interior on Thursday, 13 April 2000.
You have indicated that investigation is still on progress. Some of the
comments made from the cabinet were clearly prejudicial to the case. As the
Principal Legal Adviser of the government, it is essential to guide the rest
of your colleagues not to make comments regarding the substance of a case
that could give the public the impression that those who lodged their
complaints are not believed, any way.
The case of Ebrima Barry and Binta Manneh are emotionally charged. The best
way they could be handled is through the avenue that you have proposed in
the case of Ebrima Barry once information is gathered.
Fourthly, you have raised the issue of speedy and fair trial. However, what
you have not raised is the issue of arbitrary detention. This issue is of
fundamental importance.
A state of emergency has not been declared. The fundamental provisions of
the constitution are still in force. People are being arrested. Many are
still under detention. Section 19 of the Constitution states categorically
that
"(1) Every person shall have the right to liberty and security of person. No
one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest or detention. No one shall be
deprived of his or her liberty except on such grounds and in accordance with
such procedures as are established by law.
"(2) Any person who is arrested or detained shall be informed as soon as is
reasonably practicable and in any case within three hours, in a language
that he or she understands, of the reasons for his or her arrest or
detention and of his or her right to consult a legal practitioner.
"(3) Any person who is arrested or detained -
"(a) for the purpose of bringing him or her before a court in execution of
the order of a court; or
"(b) upon reasonable suspicion of his or her having committed, or being
about to commit, a criminal offence under the law of The Gambia,
"and who is not released, shall be brought without undue delay before a
court and, in any event, within seventy-two hours.
"(4) Where any person is brought before a court in execution of the order of
a court in any proceedings or upon suspicion of his or her having committed
or being about to commit an offence, he or she shall not thereafter be
further held in custody in connection with those proceedings or that offence
save upon the order of a court.
"(5) If any person arrested or detained as mentioned in subsection (3) (b)
is not tried within a reasonable time, then without prejudice to any further
proceedings which may be brought against him or her, he or she shall be
released either unconditionally or upon reasonable conditions, including, in
particular, such conditions as are reasonably necessary to ensure that he or
she appears at a later date for trial or proceedings preliminary to trial.
"(6) Any person who is unlawfully arrested or detained by any other person
shall be entitled to compensation from that other person or from any other
person or authority on whose behalf that other person was acting."
It is abundantly clear that right is a possession. It is not a gift. It is
owned. It can, however, be seized. When that is done, justice must become
the casualty. No criminal justice system can be credible when it is marked
by a seizure of rights. Justice itself is a way of life. It is a culture. It
is the actions we take in fulfilling the two fundamental pillars you have
established that promote awareness and a culture of justice.
You have said that it is your constitutional duty to balance two valid
principles, that is, to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to
answer for it and that he or she who is accused must be accorded a fair
hearing.
On the other hand, it is an equally valid constitutional principle that no
one should be subjected to arbitrary arrest or detention and that those who
are arrested shall be informed within three hours of the reasons of their
arrest and detention and be accorded the right to consult a legal
practitioner. Those arrested should be brought before a court within
seventy-two hours or be released.
As the Principal Legal Adviser of the government you should communicate
these fundamental principles to those who are law enforcement agents.
It is important to convey to you that some students have been under
detention since Monday, 10 April 2000, but have not been taken before any
court. You should bear in mind that the police stations in the country are
generally congested; beds are generally not available; providing breakfast,
lunch and dinner has always been a problem for detainees. In many cases,
clothes are not changed and all sorts of infections are possible. It is
absolutely essential to put the issue of the student detainees into sharp
focus.
You would agree with us that when an innocent person is detained for a
second, justice goes to sleep for a year. When justice goes to sleep, rights
are left unprotected, freedom unguaranteed and social cohesion must become
the casualty.
It is, therefore, important for your Department of State to ensure that
students are not hardened by any miscarriage of justice based on the failure
to investigate the allegations against them with speed and release or take
them to court without undue delay.
Finally, it is important for your Department of State to be a depository of
all the information depicting what the victims went through. It is,
therefore, absolutely essential to establish a commission that will receive
complaints of losses and atrocities against all victims with the view to
setting up a Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
What happened here was a calamity which threatened the lives and well being
of many people. It is important that we all know what happened here so as to
know what measures to take to be able to live with ourselves and with each
other.
Suffice it to say, all detainees should be immediately given the opportunity
to be visited by relatives if that has not already been instituted. Even
under a state of emergency, section 36, subsection (1) (b) of the
Constitution states that "Where a person is detained by virtue of or under
any Act of the National Assembly referred to in section 35, the following
provisions shall apply -
"the spouse, parent, child or other available next-of-kin of the person
detained shall be informed by the authority effecting the detention and
shall be permitted access to the person concerned at the earliest
practicable opportunity, and in any case not later than twenty-four hours
after the commencement of the detention".
It is important for your Department of State to establish standards that
will enable us to forge ahead without being a menace to each other.
By a copy of this letter, we are calling on The Association of
Non-Governmental Organisation (TANGO), the Gambia Bar Association, the
Medical and Dental Association and the African Society of International and
Comparative Law to set up a Civil Society Monitoring Group with a division
of labour based on the competence of each jurisdiction.
Announcement can be made for all victims to report at the headquarters of
TANGO to lodge complaints. The Bar Association can set up a team of advisers
which will review cases and give legal advice as to what could be done to
ensure redress. The Medical and Dental Association can have a team of
medical doctors who will receive medical complaints and offer advice.
In this way, concerted action would be taken to evoke sensitivity and show
responsiveness to the plight of our fellow citizens. This will enable us to
build a culture of concern and care which is the double-edged sword that can
smite the ugly head which alone can prevent a country from sinking into
fascism.
This is the moment for all just people in the country to stay vigil. We must
not only observe; we must be involved. We must take charge of the situation.
We must not only ask why; we must accept responsibility of what is happening
and do what is necessary to prevent it from recurring. It is the actions and
reactions of people which breed trust or distrust, confidence or its
opposite, social cohesion or social discord, development or destruction. The
key lies in our thoughts and actions. We are the architects of our own
destiny, be it one of liberty, dignity and prosperity or tyranny,
degradation and destitution. The choice is ours. We must decide. History
will be the judge of us all.
While anticipating your favourable consideration of the proposals made,
We remain,
.......................................
Halifa Sallah
For: The Editorial Board.
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Hi Alex,
You can take the circle line or district line to get to Kensington high
street. I assume you have received information about the date which stands
at 25 April, 2000. There will be some people at the station to direct you to
the Embassy (not too far). Keep it up Alex.
A.Drammeh.
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I have received contributions from various people both from within the
metropolitan Washington DC area and from other states and Canada. I have
received commitments from far more people including from people out on the
West coast. Overall I am hopeful that the community will come through on this
very important task. However I must stress we would need far more resources
if we are to make the difference we all want and in that regard I would once
again like to urge all list members to print the fine solicitation letter
Buharry drafted and actively solicit folks. I have told people within the
metro area to make efforts to put together their contributions and call me, I
would gladly drive out to their places and pick up. All contributions would
be posted at the Website Gambian.com. Once you get to the site you click the
Massacre Action Plan icon to look at the spread sheet depicting the
contributions and current totals. Contributors who wish to remain anonymous
can send me an email at [log in to unmask] or call me at 301890 4704. In that
case I would post only the amount for the required accounting.
The task force coordinator Soffie Ceesay helped arrange a public meeting
yesterday at the Takoma Park Community Center. At the meeting the following
were discussed and agreed to:
1- A letter would be written on our behalf by the task force coordinator to
the families of the killed extending our condolences and offering help. The
families would be told that they would receive both financial and legal
support and would be asked for cooperation. To allow for more of the
contributions to come in, it was decided that the financial aid to the
families would not materialize at the previously anticipated time of the
seventh Day Sarah.
2-It was decided that the task force should submit names of lawyers for list
members to approve. We agreed that we must swiftly retain counsel for them to
begin the very important task of investigating and representing those
hundreds of kids under custody. Abdoulaye Suwareh , a practicing attorney out
here in DC has been very helpful helping us craft the strategy to be pursued.
He has agreed to sit in on telephone interviews of the perspective lawyers
that we intend to submit to the contributors for approval. Once they are
chosen, we agreed that the coordinator would be our principal laison to both
the families and the lawyers as we go about this important undertaking. Names
of various lawyers were proposed and it was agreed the following would be
submitted to contributors for approval. The criteria used to select were
experience, record of practice, especially in handling controversial cases
that other lawyers shied away from. It was agreed based on the task at hand
that we would need a minimum of three lawyers. We settled on a list of four
lawyers from which three would be selected to begin contacting families and
lay the ground work for the ultimate task of establishing the facts and
seeking justice. They are Amie Joof, Aboucarr Tambedou, Maraim Jack and Amie
Bensouda.
3- The meeting also agreed to begin immediately organizing two demonstrations
at the Embassy here in DC. The first would be Tuesday April25 at 10.00am and
the second would be the last saturday of May which would fall on the ALD
weekend during which hundreds travel from out of state for festivities here
in DC . We also agreed to meet next Saturday for further deliberations.
Finally list members who have different ideas regarding what the meeting
adopted or otherwise want to suggest something is certainly welcome. To
proceed in both an inclusive and efficient manner, I believe it would be
neccessary for list members to respond to issues submitted for approval
fairly quickly.
Karamba
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Tombong,
Thanks for the update on the incidents of April 10 & 11. However, the List
members don't need your biased analysis. In a nut shell SHUT UP!!!! and
start preparing for your day in court.
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere---MLK
On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:16:16 PDT, The Gambia and related-issues mailing lis=
t
wrote:
Gambia-l,
=20
As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after which I
will
give my analysis of the whole situation.
=20
NUMBER OF DECEASED
=20
According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were received at
around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96
patients
seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 from
Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have been
discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central Division
area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
=20
The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported from
Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies were
identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one unidentifie=
d
body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
=20
DECEASED REGISTERED
=20
# NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
=20
1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding ---------------
9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra Leonean
11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
12. Unidentified Teenager
=20
Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay=92s source, the bodies are being released as
relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there was no
order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be kept
until
the President=92s return. Ebrima=92s source also claimed that there are =
=9314
confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could you
please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names of th=
e
remaining two death bodies.
=20
PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
=20
NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
=20
1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline Comprehensive
4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau Station
11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema Kunku)
12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
=20
New Jeshwang)
13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline Comprehensive
15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo Town
17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe
20. Sana Bojang Civilian New Jeshwang
21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High School
22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine=92s H. School
25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
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REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
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Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
=20
TOTAL 128 Cases
=20
The above were treated and released.
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=20
PRESS RELEASE
=20
As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competing,
principles:
=20
i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to answer
for
it;
=20
ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair
hearing.
=20
The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later convicte=
d
if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
=20
The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the Departmen=
t
of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role outlined
above.
=20
In line with the Government=92s commitment to the principles of transpare=
ncy
and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must not
only
be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers under
section 11(1) of the Coroner=92s Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an
inquest
be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the events of
the 10th and 11th April 2000.
=20
The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not an
offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
=20
As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be filed
in
the course of next week.
=20
In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice system i=
s
itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal Procedure
Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends of
justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers, (bot=
h
at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of the
alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
=20
The Attorney General=92s Chambers will provide logical support; but will
otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
=20
The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of local
a
prosecutor.
=20
As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General=92s Chambers is handicappe=
d
by
the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
=20
=20
Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
Attorney General & Secretary of State
For Justice
=20
Attorney General=92s Chambers &
Department of State for Justice
Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
Banjul
=20
13 April, 2000
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=20
Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take on this
whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both sides
of
the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
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April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The Gambia,
surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 =96 the KUKOI FIASCO. I j=
oin
all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to the
families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad event tha=
t
could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
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The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the
constitutional
right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there are
laws
and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from a give=
n
authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a permit
according to the authorities. The Department of State for the Interior
sent
a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses including GRT=
S
claiming that they have received information on a potential strike being
organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to seek
permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of me, so
I
am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a permit, an=
d
they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunday
April
9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of State=
s
and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU Executiv=
e
to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since the
President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the
Executive
from the GTTI to StateHouse.
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On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of State for
the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and to
escort
them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It was
during
this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some GAMSU
Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various reasons.
=20
While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were negotiating,
some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into GTTI.
The
Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell broke
loose. I believe the security should and could have contained things and
this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were
emanating
from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out numbered
the
police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI, student=
s
began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, Brikama
Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and everything
within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the
majority
of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some non-students
seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot, destroy
private and public properties, banks etc.
=20
The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place. Soldier=
s
came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed,
prisoners
were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police and the
armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and individuals,
mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fact som=
e
civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody.
=20
Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths and
injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about who
stated
the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sate for
the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets. The
Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event will
verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is that
not
single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed student=
s
were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to do.
=20
The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank of
Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were
generally
done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own ends. =
A
lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this whole
fiasco.
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Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with
their
phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their action
has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a
phone
in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good idea=
.
All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being sai=
d
over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the phone-in
programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the security.
=20
The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went beyon=
d
their control when other non-students joined in. The security was ill
prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
=20
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The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the
handling
of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The
critics
could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more for
Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to
Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by
providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds around
the
country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them computers
for
their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van
(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own telecentres
(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just a
few
of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to power.
Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time in
the
history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is very
unfair.
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PEACE
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Tombong
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Tombong,
It is really a shame that you are still trying to pedal this nonsense to this
list. You said: "the call ins were not banned, but they were stopped" What is
the difference? I am actually embarassed for you. These call ins were stopped
because the people were venting their anger at your murderous regime, and
this is the reason. Guess what though, call ins or no call ins, this regime
is going. No amount of damage control can save it now.
Jabou Joh
Gajigo,
There were Phone-in programmes at GRTS Radio (Radio Gambia - which covers
the entire country) and SUD FM Banjul as well. All were asked to stop by the
authorities.
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In a message dated 4/16/00 9:53:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
<< Here is what happened exactly: The Presidents Aircraft landed at
2.30am. As soon as the plane came to a stop at the tarmac, all lights were
temporarily shut off and the President quickly got into a waiting vehicle
and sped away. That's it! This is from a source at the airport >>
******************************
And this is precisely why they also stopped the call ins. As I said earlier,
reliable sources told me that people calling in were begining to talk about
demonstrating when Jammeh returns and standing in the way of his motorcade.
Of course he feels a need to sneak in in the middle of the night like a
criminal. How befitting!.Yet, Tombong just finished dispensing another
"regime explanation" Well, there is nowhere to hide now.
Jabou Joh
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In a message dated 4/16/00 10:53:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< G-L
Deyda Hydara has demonstrated again that in his profession---getting to the
truth is the ultimate objective. Deyda and the Point deserve the
p"Putlizer". It
is also very troubling that Isatoe Njie Saidy is willing to compromise her
very
SELF by distorting the truth. What happen to character and principles ? In
our
Gambian communities, these are scarce commoddities.
>>
**********************
I'm afraid if the allegation that Isatou Njie Saidy was the one who carried
out Jammeh's order to open fire on the students, she already compromised not
just herself, but her ability to be an accepted member of our society forever.
Jabou
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G-L Community:
Please allow me to express my appreciation to the Management(Deyda and
Pap Saine)of The Point for their unflinching commitment to providing
accurate and balanced coverage of the carnage and other events as they
continue to unfold at home.
Isatou Njie-Saidy, like her boss, Yahya Jammeh, the entire
administration and their propagandists need to resign immediately.
Their version of the carnage is a sick "joke." And Gambians I have
spoken to, have not fallen for such distortions.
That Yahya Jammeh would return to Gambia almost a week after the
killings, also demonstrates his disregard and contempt for Gambians.
Jammeh, his cabinet, propagandists and thugs Must GO!
Abdoulaye
No justice, no peace!
Jabou Joh wrote:
>
> In a message dated 4/16/00 10:53:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> << G-L
> Deyda Hydara has demonstrated again that in his profession---getting to the
> truth is the ultimate objective. Deyda and the Point deserve the
> p"Putlizer". It
> is also very troubling that Isatoe Njie Saidy is willing to compromise her
> very
> SELF by distorting the truth. What happen to character and principles ? In
> our
> Gambian communities, these are scarce commoddities.
> >>
> **********************
> I'm afraid if the allegation that Isatou Njie Saidy was the one who carried
> out Jammeh's order to open fire on the students, she already compromised not
> just herself, but her ability to be an accepted member of our society forever.
>
> Jabou
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Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Tombong,
It is really a shame that you are still trying to pedal this nonsense to =
this
list. You said: "the call ins were not banned, but they were stopped" Wha=
t is
the difference? I am actually embarassed for you. These call ins were sto=
pped
because the people were venting their anger at your murderous regime, and=
this is the reason. Guess what though, call ins or no call ins, this regi=
me
is going. No amount of damage control can save it now.
Jabou Joh
Here Here Jabou; Tombong iy is better for you to be quiet than fill us wi=
th
hot air. Call in programs and venting ones anger does no harm, its mere
expressing disapproval of the government's actions.
Daddy Sang
Gajigo,
There were Phone-in programmes at GRTS Radio (Radio Gambia - which cover=
s
the entire country) and SUD FM Banjul as well. All were asked to stop by=
the
authorities.
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kuts <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mr Saidy,
You might not know this but there was a similar
demonstration in 1971 in which all the schools in Banjul and environs
participitated. The police were unable to control us,they had to call for=
help from the Field Force,who were able to control the situation after
several hours!!I can't remember any serious injuries ,there were certainl=
y
no fatalities!! The "Deporians" were illitirate but they were definately =
not
PHILISTINES!!
KUTS
I participated in that demonstration, it began opposit Gambia High School=
and
it was staged to protest President Senghore's speech in which he accused=
the
Gambia of causing Senegal's economic woes. Senghore was on a stste visit =
to
the Gambia and the demonstration was lead by Crispin Grey Johnson, Koro S=
allah
and some members of the "Kent Street Vous" along with Lena Manga then on
holidays from the U.S; I was not arrested but my friend Pa Joof of fame S=
oto
Koto Vous was; yes kuts your're right the field force were called in but
nobody got killed either. It seems to me though illiterate, the field for=
ce
understood freedom of speech better than these "sheep in wool clothing" i=
=2Ee
thugs mascarading as soldiers. Tombong you might want to visit the achive=
s to
that demonstration, you might learn a thing or two about civil disobedian=
ce
and how to deal with it.
Daddy Sang
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From: alfusainey bah <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: UPDATE
> hey Tombong,
> It is very sad that you are using this tragic accassion to tell us abou=
t
the
> "good things" that Jammeh did for the youths of the Gambia. What a sham=
e.
> I have a question that has been lingering in me since i read press
releases
> from the defence secretary. If the students had guns with life ammuniti=
ons
> with them, how come there was no security personnel among the dead?
> God Bless and Peace Be Upon All.
> Alasana Bah
>
> >From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: UPDATE
> >Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:16:16 PDT
> >
> >Gambia-l,
> >
> >As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after which =
I
> >will
> >give my analysis of the whole situation.
> >
> >NUMBER OF DECEASED
> >
> >According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were received =
at
> >around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96
> >patients
> >seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 fro=
m
> >Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have bee=
n
> >discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central Divisi=
on
> >area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
> >
> >The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported fro=
m
> >Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies wer=
e
> >identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one
unidentified
> >body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
> >
> >DECEASED REGISTERED
> >
> ># NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
> >
> >1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
> >2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
> >3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
> >4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
> >5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
> >6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
> >7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
> >8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding --------------=
-
> >9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
> >10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra Leonean=
> >11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
> >12. Unidentified Teenager
> >
> >Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay=92s source, the bodies are being released as=
> >relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there was n=
o
> >order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be kept
until
> >the President=92s return. Ebrima=92s source also claimed that there ar=
e =9314
> >confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could yo=
u
> >please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names of=
the
> >remaining two death bodies.
> >
> >PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
> >
> >NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
> >
> >1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
> >2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
> >3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline Comprehensive=
> >4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
> >5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
> >6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
> >7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
> >8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
> >9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
> >10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau Station
> >11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema Kunku)
> >12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
> >
> > New Jeshwang)
> >13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
> >14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline Comprehensive=
> >15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
> >16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo Town
> >17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
> >18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
> >19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe=
> >20. Sana Bojang Civilian New Jeshwang
> >21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High School
> >22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
> >23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
> >24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine=92s H. School
> >25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
> >26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
> >27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
> >30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
> >31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
> >
> >REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
> >
> >Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
> >Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
> >Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
> >Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
> >
> >TOTAL 128 Cases
> >
> >The above were treated and released.
> >
> >
> >PRESS RELEASE
> >
> >As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
> >constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competing,=
> >principles:
> >
> >i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to answ=
er
> >for
> >it;
> >
> >ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair
> >hearing.
> >
> >The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later
convicted
> >if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
> >
> >The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the
Department
> >of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role outline=
d
> >above.
> >
> >In line with the Government=92s commitment to the principles of
transparency
> >and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must no=
t
> >only
> >be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers unde=
r
> >section 11(1) of the Coroner=92s Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
> >simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an
inquest
> >be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the events=
of
> >the 10th and 11th April 2000.
> >
> >The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not =
an
> >offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
> >
> >As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be fil=
ed
in
> >the course of next week.
> >
> >In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice syste=
m
is
> >itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
> >appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal Proced=
ure
> >Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends =
of
> >justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers,
(both
> >at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of =
the
> >alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
> >
> >The Attorney General=92s Chambers will provide logical support; but wi=
ll
> >otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
> >
> >The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of lo=
cal
a
> >prosecutor.
> >
> >As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General=92s Chambers is handica=
pped
by
> >the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
> >
> >
> >Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
> >Attorney General & Secretary of State
> >For Justice
> >
> >Attorney General=92s Chambers &
> >Department of State for Justice
> >Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
> >Banjul
> >
> >13 April, 2000
> >
> >
> >
> >Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take on t=
his
> >whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both sid=
es
of
> >the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
> >
> >April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The Gambia=
,
> >surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 =96 the KUKOI FIASCO. =
I
join
> >all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to the
> >families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad event
that
> >could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
> >
> >The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the
constitutional
> >right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there are=
laws
> >and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from a
given
> >authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a permit
> >according to the authorities. The Department of State for the Interior=
sent
> >a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses including
GRTS
> >claiming that they have received information on a potential strike bei=
ng
> >organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to seek
> >permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
> >demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of me,=
so
I
> >am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a permit,=
and
> >they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunday
April
> >9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of
States
> >and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU
Executive
> >to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since t=
he
> >President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the
> >Executive
> >from the GTTI to StateHouse.
> >
> >On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of State =
for
> >the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and to
> >escort
> >them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It was
> >during
> >this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some GAMS=
U
> >Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various reason=
s.
> >
> >While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were negotiatin=
g,
> >some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into GTT=
I.
> >The
> >Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell bro=
ke
> >loose. I believe the security should and could have contained things a=
nd
> >this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were
emanating
> >from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out numbere=
d
the
> >police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI,
students
> >began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, Brikama
> >Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and everyth=
ing
> >within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the
> >majority
> >of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some non-students=
> >seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot, destr=
oy
> >private and public properties, banks etc.
> >
> >The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place.
Soldiers
> >came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed,
> >prisoners
> >were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police and =
the
> >armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and individuals=
,
> >mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fact
some
> >civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody.
> >
> >Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths and
> >injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about who
stated
> >the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sate =
for
> >the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets. =
The
> >Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event wi=
ll
> >verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is tha=
t
not
> >single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed
students
> >were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to do=
=2E
> >
> >The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank o=
f
> >Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were
> >generally
> >done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own end=
s.
A
> >lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this wh=
ole
> >fiasco.
> >
> >Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with=
> >their
> >phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their act=
ion
> >has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a=
> >phone
> >in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good
idea.
> >All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being
said
> >over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the phone-=
in
> >programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the securit=
y.
> >
> >The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went
beyond
> >their control when other non-students joined in. The security was ill
> >prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
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> >
> >The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the
> >handling
> >of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The
> >critics
> >could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more f=
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> >Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to
> >Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by
> >providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds arou=
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> >the
> >country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them computer=
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> >their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van
> >(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own telecent=
res
> >(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just=
a
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> >of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
> >University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to powe=
r.
> >Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time i=
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Jabou,
May I please repeat my assertion that ISATOU NJIE, who is married to JAY =
SAIDY and now the Vice President of the Gambia, is not a born-Gambian. =
NO real Gambian-born mother will order troops to shoot at innocent =
students demonstrating. Had it been a practice in the Gambia to =
slaughter and maim students when they collectively demand for what is =
theirs, many of us would not have been here today.
I even believe that mentioning this woman on the List is making her more =
important than she thinks she is. She is no more than one of Yaya =
Jammeh's hand-picks. Yaya Jammeh's incompetence is what put her where =
she is today. When Jammeh goes, the hag ("Doma") will also find way. I =
said "when" and not "If", because I am convinced that Jammeh Must Go.
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Prince Coker =20
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From: Jabou Joh=20
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Subject: Re: Journalism as we know it?
In a message dated 4/16/00 10:53:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< G-L
Deyda Hydara has demonstrated again that in his profession---getting =
to the
truth is the ultimate objective. Deyda and the Point deserve the
p"Putlizer". It
is also very troubling that Isatoe Njie Saidy is willing to =
compromise her
very
SELF by distorting the truth. What happen to character and principles =
? In
our
Gambian communities, these are scarce commoddities.
>>
**********************
I'm afraid if the allegation that Isatou Njie Saidy was the one who =
carried
out Jammeh's order to open fire on the students, she already =
compromised not
just herself, but her ability to be an accepted member of our society =
forever.
Jabou
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is what put her where she is today. When Jammeh goes, the hag =
("Doma") will=20
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her<BR>very<BR> SELF by distorting the truth. What happen to =
character=20
and principles ? In<BR>our<BR> Gambian communities, these are =
scarce=20
commoddities.<BR> >><BR>**********************<BR>I'm =
afraid if=20
the allegation that Isatou Njie Saidy was the one who carried<BR>out =
Jammeh's=20
order to open fire on the students, she already compromised =
not<BR>just=20
herself, but her ability to be an accepted member of our society=20
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Halifa,
allow me to extend my gratitude to you and your colleagues for
transmitting what at best represents what transpired on the 10th. April when
Yaya Jammeh's loutish trigger-happy philistines massacred school kids whose
crime happened to be to show solidarity with a slain colleague and a raped
sister. your postings did help alot in pushing to the back burners the
disinformations and pantomime nonsenses we have constantly been fed by Jammeh
lickspittles who have no shred of decency or scruple.
However, I was somewhat dismayed that you have now joined the few online
who have so far taken this gov't's latest bait in declaring it's intent on
the fair dispensation of justice. By this I mean your greeting of the
Attorney General's Press Release as a "consolation" after what had transpired
on the 10th. April, 2000. Calling that Press Release a "consolation" shifts
attention with what is really wrong with our country today; that of
leadership. I wouldn't waste your time here by publishing here this gov't's
catalogue of gross negligence and Josey Wales attitude towards social justice
and as such societal coexistence. From the victims of November 11 to Koro
Ceesay to the countless and forgotten and marginalised victims of Jammeh,
this gov't has shown it's tastelessness, ineptitude and insensitivity towards
the dispensation of social justice. Must it take the slaying of school kids
for this gov't to really learn an inherent principle of social and political
order; that of the rule of law and the need to see to it justice is blind to
political or social inclination? As you very well know, without these
principles, society whatever we perceive it to be, ceases to exist. For the
absence of these principles in a body polity or social collectivity, calls
for radical individualism where each is out for him/herself and social
Darwinianism takes set; a society where only the fittest and the strongest
survives. Society in it's classical form ceases to exist. With respect to the
realities of the Gambia, I might be exaggerating, at any rate, with this
moralising but we are not far from it when school kids can offer themselves
for martyrdom in order for a gov't/state to take up it's inherent
responsibilities very seriously. Must school kids be sacrificed before
natural justice takes it course or a gov't learn to respect it's tax payer?
what makes you so sure that we need to take up this gov't's declared
intent of pursuing all avenues of justice in this case when history teaches
us that this is a gov't notorious for breaking it's convenant with the
people? what makes you confident this time round different from the last time
it was challenged to translate words/promises into deeds on social justice,
the gov't would live up to expectation? what......? because we have a new SOS
for justice who is glib enough to catch our attention with flashy
merry-go-around jargons that wouldn't be translated into actions or if they
did would only be half-hearted and wouldn't go to the core of what is
currently wrong with the Gambia today.
the fact that in their inept press liaisons senior members of this gov't
could utter prejudicial statements that seek to exonerate them of any wrong
doing tells you that nothing has changed but the slogans and the endless
spins that are added to the story. for this gov't, the wrong doers are
already filling their cells. innocent Gambians languishing behind bars and
the real criminals prowling the corridors of society, whilst the gov't claim
justice will be dispense swiftly and fairly. in short this is a gov't that
has lost it's right to be trusted on virtually everything save the extent it
will go in entrenching the status-quo. the Jammeh administration is not to be
trusted with anything. it has lost that right.
what needs to be done at this stage is to intensify the pressure of the
non-partisan universal alliance of "Jammeh Must G". we must harden our
resolves and refuse any form of co-operation with this administration. save
until it is really ready to return power back to the Gambian people and in
the creation of that milieu. that is the only way to save the country.
anything sort of this would be akin to covering a festering wound with sand
expecting it to heal with luck. for the festering wound would doggedly come
to the fore when inevitable social collision grazes it again.
what is expected of local political forces on the ground is to reach out
to each other, leaving all moral and ideological conflicts on the respite
agenda, whilst the common enemy, Jammehism takes the fore. I know you have
your disagreements with most of the political players [especially the UDP]
but it is essentially there is a big umbrella opposition alliance to battle
the forces of Fascism that Jammeh represents. Fascism in whatever shape or
form it takes anywhere will never let the peaceful cohabitation of opposing
political philosophies or proclivities prevail. The system that prevails in
the Gambia is insidiously being supplanted by a vicious form of neo-Fascism.
it must be fought and not appeased. it must be fought now. there is no room
for procrastination and moral hagglings.
reach out to the other political players and form a grand "Sopi" alliance
[to mimic our Senegalese cousins] and start the battle against Jammeh's
Fascism. start speaking in one voice and you would see the difference it
would make on our political landscape. the unity of purpose of the Diaspora
needs to be matched equally with a unified political alliance that sees
Jammeh's Fascism as the chief enemy. anything short of this would only
lengthen our peoples silent but now reverberating traumas.
if liberals, socialists, nationalists and pan africanists of all shades
and at best ennemis freres, could stitch together a grand coalition to defeat
Joof's reactionary and decadent regime, technocratic politics suggests that
nothing can hold our determination to see to it that history does repeat
itself in the Gambia in a grand manner.
it is one thing for the Diaspora to arrange demos and fundraisers but it
will amount to zilch if it is not reciprocated with a local grand opposition
alliance that works with this universal movement in unison to dislodge
peacefully Jammeh's Fascism.
and another thing, it is all very well for you to continue to write this
endless letters to a gov't that has no sense of political or social
discourse. the tragedy however, is that it only goes to show how smart and
bright fellow you are and how you could shine anywhere you so desire to be.
it is time you show us you are more than a smart pen pusher and a brilliant
essayist. it is time you show to your critics you are more of pragmatic
problem solver than a mere smart fellow whose only forte is pen pushing and
loquaciousness.
I hope you rise up to this challenge and see it as something transcending
personality spats or disagreement you might have with other political
players. Young people of my generation are beginning to have faith that the
political process might be worthy of embrace after all and that Africa will
rise again from the ashes. Jammeh's Fascism must never be allowed the delight
of scuppering that faith from our grasp. we have a duty in defying the odds
and collectively wrestle the decadence that has engulfed the Gambia. As you
once memorably wrote, "LEADERSHIP MEANS FORESIGHT." Could I add here that
without flexibility such foresight would be meaningless? Halifa show your
flexibility and reach out to the other players in the Gambia's political
arena. Strike whilst the iron is still hot!
Anticipating your usual warm response.
Hamjatta Kanteh
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Prince,
I have noticed this mentioned by you before. Is the woman a naturalized
Gambian then, and where was she born? I am really curious.
I have spent sleepless nights wondering how on earth anyone cn order the
shooting to anyone else, much less children.
Believe me, I attach no importance to any of these Jammeh yes people. They
know more than anyone else now that their days are numbered.
Jabou
Jabou,
May I please repeat my assertion that ISATOU NJIE, who is married to JAY
SAIDY and now the Vice President of the Gambia, is not a born-Gambian. NO
real Gambian-born mother will order troops to shoot at innocent students
demonstrating. Had it been a practice in the Gambia to slaughter and maim
students when they collectively demand for what is theirs, many of us would
not have been here today.
I even believe that mentioning this woman on the List is making her more
important than she thinks she is. She is no more than one of Yaya Jammeh's
hand-picks. Yaya Jammeh's incompetence is what put her where she is today.
When Jammeh goes, the hag ("Doma") will also find way. I said "when" and not
"If", because I am convinced that Jammeh Must Go.
Prince Coker >>
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Hi folks,
I have some good news to share. Some people might think it bad news, =
depending on their perspective, and where they stand on recent =
developments in The Gambia.
This morning (Sunday, April 16), I attended a talk on the Death Penalty =
given by US Senator Russell Feingold, a Democrat from Wisconsin. Sen. =
Feingold is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and the =
Ranking Member of that Committee's Africa Sub-Committee:
http://www.senate.gov/~foreign/subcommittees.html#africanaffairs
As it happens, I interviewed him this past January on my call-in program =
"A Public Affair" (APA) which I have been a volunteer host and producer =
of for over two years now on our community radio station, WORT FM:
http://www.netphoria.com/wort
My program with Sen. Feingold focused on his 10-nation tour of Africa, =
along with the US Ambassador to the United Nations, Richard Holbrooke. =
The Senator is particularly interested in African affairs in general, =
and human rights issues in particular. For this reason, I thought his =
presentation today would be a great opportunity for me to meet him in =
person, and talk to him about last weeks killings in The Gambia, and =
what we are trying to do about it.
As you can imagine, there were a few people who wanted to talk to the =
Senator after his presentation, but I was able to have a few minutes =
with him. I introduced myself to him, and mentioned my interview with =
him on APA. We talked briefly about recent developments in Africa, thus =
paving the way for me to introduce the topic of last weeks killings back =
home. I gave him a brief overview of the killings, and events that lead =
to them, in addition to a synopsis of other issues relevant to assessing =
the Jammeh government. I told him that Gambians all over the world are =
mobilizing and responding to last weeks senseless killings and that we =
will be needing help from people like him.
The Sen. asked me to talk some more to his aide (who was present) with a =
view toward scheduling a meeting with his office to discuss matters =
more. I gave his aide a little more detailed overview of the issues I =
raised with the Senator, and told him that I will be sending him more =
details by e-mail to bring him abreast of developments in The Gambia. I =
also told him that I will include the URL to the Gambia-L archives in =
the e-mail that I will be sending him for him to be able to follow the =
debate, and get a sense of the feeling of outrage that many of us have =
expressed.
Senator Feingold's aide told me that he will forward the e-mail I send =
him to the person responsible for African affairs at the Senator's =
Washington, DC office. We should hopefully be able to schedule an =
interview with the official in DC, and at that point, we'll need to have =
some people on the ground in DC to go meet with officials at Senator =
Feingold's Office. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking of Karamba =
Touray and Latjor Ndow (since they are in the vicinity) but this by no =
means implies that we should not consider other people to go speak on =
our behalf. So this might be a good time to start thinking about people =
we should talk to about going to talk to Senator Feingold's office.
Still on the issue of reaching out to different organizations and =
officials to solicit their support and help, I'd like to say that I =
would also be contacting Sunni Khalid, the Communication's Director of =
the National Summit on Africa. They have been working very hard at =
bringing Africa to the forefront in the US national agenda, and recently =
concluded a highly successful National Summit on Africa. I believe Dr. =
Amadou Janneh was a member of the Tennessee delegation, and can probably =
tell you more about what transpired at the Summit. For your =
information, you can visit their Web site at: =
http://www.africasummit.org/
Again, as luck would have it, I interviewed Sunni just about a few weeks =
ago on my APA program on WORT, and we talked about the National Summit =
on Africa, and the recommendations and plan of action that came out of =
it. I will be sending Sunni an e-mail to solicit their help ensuring =
that the Jammeh government is brought to an end, as peacefully, and as =
soon as possible. The e-mail I'll be sending Sunni would be along the =
lines of the one I'll be sending Senator Feingold's office, but would =
place a special emphasis that the gross acts of violence and corruption =
committed, or alleged to have been committed by the Jammeh government =
will make it incredibly difficult for them to work toward increasing =
Africa's credibility in the eyes of American citizens. Simply put, =
unless the likes of President Jammeh stop digging the hole that the =
National Summit on Africa, and similar organizations are trying to dig =
us out of, we'll never get out of the hole.
In regards preparing writing e-mail messages to Sen. Feingold's office, =
and to Sunni Khalid, I would appreciate it if people can help with =
information that can be included in the e-mails. In particular, I would =
like the e-mails to be formatted as follows:
1. Background - a brief overview of The Gambia, and short history =
of the Jammeh government
2. Human Rights under the Jammeh government (the US State Depts. =
report would come in handy here)
3. Economic Management (or mis-management; take your pick) under =
Jammeh's government - I am especially interested in the current state of =
the Gambian economy compared to when Jammeh came to power. What's our =
balance of payments situation, our currencies exchange rate, inflation, =
unemployment figures, etc. A list of key economic indicators would be =
really helpful
4. Unresolved allegations of corruption against the Jammeh =
government: The money from Taiwan, what happened to the money that =
recovered from the Ebou Jallow thing, and returned to the government?; =
the Nigeria oil deal, and any others.
5. A list of all incidents that have resulted in loss of life =
during Jammeh's rule, the number of people killed, as well as the number =
of people killed in each incident, the government's explanation, and =
other views different from the government's.
6. A list of actions requested from parties interested in helping =
bring a peaceful end to the Jammeh government. I would suggest the =
following:
a. That all official financial assistance to The Gambia be =
suspended, until all pending allegations of corruption are resolved
b. All those detained in the aftermath of the student riots, and =
killings, and indeed any political prisoners the government may hold in =
prison be immediately released, or brought to court
c. Help isolate the Jammeh government by refusing it's top-ranking =
officials an audience unless genuine efforts are made to address the =
issues above, or unless the meeting is for the purpose of discussing the =
above issues
The above are off the top of my head, and I'm sure many of you will have =
others you can add to it, or would like to improve it some more. I =
should also say that we can use the format above as a template for =
developing the freegambia.org Web site, or whatever site we finally =
agree on. In this regard, Dr. Amadou Janneh and others have volunteered =
to help with developing content for the site, and I would like to =
suggest that all those interested in helping pick a topic from the list =
above and do some research on it.
Also, could you indicate whether you would like to lead research on the =
topic, in the event more than 1 person volunteers to research a topic. =
And I cannot emphasize the importance of getting our facts straight. We =
cannot afford to send e-mails with factual errors, and conjecture to =
people we want to help. No matter how upset you are with the Jammeh =
government, please, please, let's stick to the facts.
For your information, I would like send out the e-mails by Friday, April =
21. Please let me know if that's an unrealistic target given the work =
that might need to be done to research the facts. And by the way, I =
would like to appeal to Gambian newspapers to dig into their archives =
for information that might be helpful if included in the e-mails I'll be =
sending out.
May I also mention that I would like forward the Press Release put out =
by the Gambia Press Union (GPU), and forwarded to the list by Abdul Aziz =
Drammeh, to my Freelance Journalists mailing list hosted at Topica:
http://www.topica.com/lists/freelance-journalists/
I have been running the list for over 2 years now, and it presently has =
about 440 subscribers. I'd appreciate it if someone can send me a =
contact e-mail address for the GPU so I can included in my forwarded =
message to the Freelance Journalists list.
Please feel free to write to me directly at [log in to unmask] if you have =
any questions, or need any more information. Needless to say, there are =
other issues such as getting a list of different Gambian organizations =
working on human rights and democracy issues, and the like. Would =
someone volunteer to collect a list of organizations and their contacts =
so we can decide on how best to proceed with the business of an umbrella =
organization to work with?
I guess that's about it. Best wishes.
Katim
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi folks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have some good news to share. =
Some people=20
might think it bad news, depending on their perspective, and where they =
stand on=20
recent developments in The Gambia.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This morning (Sunday, April 16), I =
attended a talk=20
on the Death Penalty given by US Senator Russell Feingold, a Democrat =
from=20
Wisconsin. Sen. Feingold is a member of the Senate Foreign =
Relations=20
Committee, and the Ranking Member of that Committee's Africa=20
Sub-Committee:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.senate.gov/~foreign/subcommittees.html#africanaffairs"=
>http://www.senate.gov/~foreign/subcommittees.html#africanaffairs</A></FO=
NT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As it happens, I interviewed him this =
past January=20
on my call-in program "A Public Affair" (APA) which I have been a =
volunteer host=20
and producer of for over two years now on our community radio station, =
WORT=20
FM:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.netphoria.com/wort">http://www.netphoria.com/wort</A><=
/FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My program with Sen. Feingold focused =
on his=20
10-nation tour of Africa, along with the US Ambassador to the United =
Nations,=20
Richard Holbrooke. The Senator is particularly interested in =
African=20
affairs in general, and human rights issues in particular. For =
this=20
reason, I thought his presentation today would be a great opportunity =
for me to=20
meet him in person, and talk to him about last weeks killings in The =
Gambia, and=20
what we are trying to do about it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As you can imagine, there were a few =
people who=20
wanted to talk to the Senator after his presentation, but I was able to =
have a=20
few minutes with him. I introduced myself to him, and mentioned my =
interview with him on APA. We talked briefly about recent =
developments in=20
Africa, thus paving the way for me to introduce the topic of last weeks =
killings=20
back home. I gave him a brief overview of the killings, and events =
that=20
lead to them, in addition to a synopsis of other issues relevant to =
assessing=20
the Jammeh government. I told him that Gambians all over the world =
are=20
mobilizing and responding to last weeks senseless killings and that we =
will be=20
needing help from people like him.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Sen. asked me to talk some more to =
his aide=20
(who was present) with a view toward scheduling a meeting with his =
office to=20
discuss matters more. I gave his aide a little more detailed =
overview of=20
the issues I raised with the Senator, and told him that I will be =
sending him=20
more details by e-mail to bring him abreast of developments in The =
Gambia. =20
I also told him that I will include the URL to the Gambia-L archives in =
the=20
e-mail that I will be sending him for him to be able to follow the =
debate, and=20
get a sense of the feeling of outrage that many of us have=20
expressed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Senator Feingold's aide told me that he =
will=20
forward the e-mail I send him to the person responsible for African =
affairs at=20
the Senator's Washington, DC office. We should hopefully be able =
to=20
schedule an interview with the official in DC, and at that point, we'll =
need to=20
have some people on the ground in DC to go meet with officials at =
Senator=20
Feingold's Office. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking of Karamba =
Touray=20
and Latjor Ndow (since they are in the vicinity) but this by no means =
implies=20
that we should not consider other people to go speak on our =
behalf. So=20
this might be a good time to start thinking about people we should talk =
to about=20
going to talk to Senator Feingold's office.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still on the issue of reaching out to =
different=20
organizations and officials to solicit their support and help, I'd like =
to say=20
that I would also be contacting Sunni Khalid, the Communication's =
Director of=20
the National Summit on Africa. They have been working very hard at =
bringing Africa to the forefront in the US national agenda, and recently =
concluded a highly successful National Summit on Africa. I believe =
Dr.=20
Amadou Janneh was a member of the Tennessee delegation, and can probably =
tell=20
you more about what transpired at the Summit. For your =
information, you=20
can visit their Web site at: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.africasummit.org/">http://www.africasummit.org/</A></F=
ONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Again, as luck would have it, I =
interviewed Sunni=20
just about a few weeks ago on my APA program on WORT, and we talked =
about the=20
National Summit on Africa, and the recommendations and plan of action =
that came=20
out of it. I will be sending Sunni an e-mail to solicit their help =
ensuring that the Jammeh government is brought to an end, as peacefully, =
and as=20
soon as possible. The e-mail I'll be sending Sunni would be along =
the=20
lines of the one I'll be sending Senator Feingold's office, but would =
place a=20
special emphasis that the gross acts of violence and corruption =
committed, or=20
alleged to have been committed by the Jammeh government will make it =
incredibly=20
difficult for them to work toward increasing Africa's credibility in the =
eyes of=20
American citizens. Simply put, unless the likes of President =
Jammeh stop=20
digging the hole that the National Summit on Africa, and similar =
organizations=20
are trying to dig us out of, we'll never get out of the =
hole.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In regards preparing writing e-mail =
messages to=20
Sen. Feingold's office, and to Sunni Khalid, I would appreciate it if =
people can=20
help with information that can be included in the e-mails. In =
particular,=20
I would like the e-mails to be formatted as follows:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> 1. =
Background - a=20
brief overview of The Gambia, and short history of the Jammeh=20
government</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> 2. Human =
Rights under the=20
Jammeh government (the US State Depts. report would come in handy=20
here)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> 3. Economic =
Management (or=20
mis-management; take your pick) under Jammeh's government - I am =
especially=20
interested in the current state of the Gambian economy compared to when =
Jammeh=20
came to power. What's our balance of payments situation, our =
currencies=20
exchange rate, inflation, unemployment figures, etc. A list =
of key=20
economic indicators would be really helpful</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> 4. Unresolved =
allegations=20
of corruption against the Jammeh government: The money from =
Taiwan, what=20
happened to the money that recovered from the Ebou Jallow thing,=20
and returned to the government?; the Nigeria oil =
deal, and any=20
others.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> 5. A list of =
all incidents=20
that have resulted in loss of life during Jammeh's rule, the number =
of=20
people killed, as well as the number of people killed in each=20
incident, the government's explanation, and other views =
different from=20
the government's.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> 6. A list of =
actions=20
requested from parties interested in helping bring a peaceful end to the =
Jammeh=20
government. I would suggest the following:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> a. That all =
official=20
financial assistance to The Gambia be suspended, until all pending =
allegations=20
of corruption are resolved</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> b. All those =
detained in=20
the aftermath of the student riots, and killings, and indeed any =
political=20
prisoners the government may hold in prison be immediately released, or =
brought=20
to court</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> c. Help =
isolate the Jammeh=20
government by refusing it's top-ranking officials an audience unless =
genuine=20
efforts are made to address the issues above, or unless the meeting is =
for the=20
purpose of discussing the above issues</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The above are off the top of my head, =
and I'm sure=20
many of you will have others you can add to it, or would like to improve =
it some=20
more. I should also say that we can use the format above as a =
template for=20
developing the freegambia.org Web site, or whatever site we finally =
agree=20
on. In this regard, Dr. Amadou Janneh and others have volunteered =
to help=20
with developing content for the site, and I would like to suggest that =
all those=20
interested in helping pick a topic from the list above and do some =
research on=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also, could you indicate whether you =
would like to=20
lead research on the topic, in the event more than 1 person volunteers =
to=20
research a topic. And I cannot emphasize the importance of getting =
our=20
facts straight. We cannot afford to send e-mails with factual =
errors, and=20
conjecture to people we want to help. No matter how upset you are =
with the=20
Jammeh government, please, please, let's stick to the =
facts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For your information, I would like send =
out the=20
e-mails by Friday, April 21. Please let me know if that's an =
unrealistic=20
target given the work that might need to be done to research the =
facts. =20
And by the way, I would like to appeal to Gambian newspapers to dig into =
their=20
archives for information that might be helpful if included in the =
e-mails I'll=20
be sending out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>May I also mention that I would like =
forward the=20
Press Release put out by the Gambia Press Union (GPU), and forwarded to =
the list=20
by Abdul Aziz Drammeh, to my Freelance Journalists mailing list =
hosted at=20
Topica:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.topica.com/lists/freelance-journalists/">http://www.to=
pica.com/lists/freelance-journalists/</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been running the list for over 2 =
years now,=20
and it presently has about 440 subscribers. I'd appreciate it if =
someone=20
can send me a contact e-mail address for the GPU so I can included in my =
forwarded message to the Freelance Journalists list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please feel free to write to me =
directly at <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> if you have any =
questions,=20
or need any more information. Needless to say, there are other =
issues such=20
as getting a list of different Gambian organizations working on =
human=20
rights and democracy issues, and the like. Would someone volunteer =
to=20
collect a list of organizations and their contacts so we can decide on =
how best=20
to proceed with the business of an umbrella organization to work=20
with?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess =
that's about=20
it. Best wishes.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Katim</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Daddy Sang,
Just a reminder: The late Eku Mahoney was the Commander of the Riot =
Squad then. He read his inaudible "riot act" but every stayed put and =
then All Hell broke loose. For most of us it more like a "flow". The =
"Agogo" season was over and we were bored
At the fore-front were also people like Junkunda Daffeh, Saul and =
Charles Jarra, Alassan Sarr, Bai-Mass Taal, Saga Taal and Momodou Sedat =
Jobe . Yes, the very Dr. Saga Taal who is today the Secretary General of =
Jammeh and Sedat-Jobe. In Aku the saying for these kind of people is: =
"Oya, fine boy turn makalo". It was Momodou Sedat Jobe who translated =
Senghore's speech in the "Kent Street Vous" journal that caused all that =
uproar. Today, he is the foreign secretary of one of the most despotic =
regimes.
Prince
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Emmanuel N'Dow=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: UPDATE]
kuts <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mr Saidy,
You might not know this but there was a similar
demonstration in 1971 in which all the schools in Banjul and environs
participitated. The police were unable to control us,they had to call =
for
help from the Field Force,who were able to control the situation after
several hours!!I can't remember any serious injuries ,there were =
certainly
no fatalities!! The "Deporians" were illitirate but they were =
definately not
PHILISTINES!!
KUTS
I participated in that demonstration, it began opposit Gambia High =
School and
it was staged to protest President Senghore's speech in which he =
accused the
Gambia of causing Senegal's economic woes. Senghore was on a stste =
visit to
the Gambia and the demonstration was lead by Crispin Grey Johnson, =
Koro Sallah
and some members of the "Kent Street Vous" along with Lena Manga then =
on
holidays from the U.S; I was not arrested but my friend Pa Joof of =
fame Soto
Koto Vous was; yes kuts your're right the field force were called in =
but
nobody got killed either. It seems to me though illiterate, the field =
force
understood freedom of speech better than these "sheep in wool =
clothing" i.e
thugs mascarading as soldiers. Tombong you might want to visit the =
achives to
that demonstration, you might learn a thing or two about civil =
disobediance
and how to deal with it.
Daddy Sang
----- Original Message -----
From: alfusainey bah <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: UPDATE
> hey Tombong,
> It is very sad that you are using this tragic accassion to tell us =
about
the
> "good things" that Jammeh did for the youths of the Gambia. What a =
shame.
> I have a question that has been lingering in me since i read press
releases
> from the defence secretary. If the students had guns with life =
ammunitions
> with them, how come there was no security personnel among the dead?
> God Bless and Peace Be Upon All.
> Alasana Bah
>
> >From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: UPDATE
> >Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:16:16 PDT
> >
> >Gambia-l,
> >
> >As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after =
which I
> >will
> >give my analysis of the whole situation.
> >
> >NUMBER OF DECEASED
> >
> >According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were =
received at
> >around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96
> >patients
> >seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 =
from
> >Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have =
been
> >discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central =
Division
> >area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
> >
> >The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported =
from
> >Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies =
were
> >identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one
unidentified
> >body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
> >
> >DECEASED REGISTERED
> >
> ># NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
> >
> >1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
> >2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
> >3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
> >4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
> >5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
> >6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
> >7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
> >8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding =
---------------
> >9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
> >10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra =
Leonean
> >11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
> >12. Unidentified Teenager
> >
> >Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay's source, the bodies are being released =
as
> >relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there =
was no
> >order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be =
kept
until
> >the President's return. Ebrima's source also claimed that there are =
"14
> >confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could =
you
> >please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names =
of
the
> >remaining two death bodies.
> >
> >PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
> >
> >NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
> >
> >1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
> >2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
> >3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline =
Comprehensive
> >4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
> >5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
> >6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
> >7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
> >8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
> >9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
> >10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau =
Station
> >11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema =
Kunku)
> >12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
> >
> > New Jeshwang)
> >13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
> >14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline =
Comprehensive
> >15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
> >16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo =
Town
> >17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
> >18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
> >19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay =
Jobe
> >20. Sana Bojang Civilian New =
Jeshwang
> >21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High =
School
> >22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
> >23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
> >24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine's H. School
> >25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
> >26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
> >27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
> >30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
> >31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
> >
> >REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
> >
> >Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
> >Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
> >Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
> >Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
> >
> >TOTAL 128 Cases
> >
> >The above were treated and released.
> >
> >
> >PRESS RELEASE
> >
> >As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
> >constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often =
competing,
> >principles:
> >
> >i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to =
answer
> >for
> >it;
> >
> >ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair
> >hearing.
> >
> >The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later
convicted
> >if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
> >
> >The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the
Department
> >of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role =
outlined
> >above.
> >
> >In line with the Government's commitment to the principles of
transparency
> >and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must =
not
> >only
> >be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers =
under
> >section 11(1) of the Coroner's Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
> >simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an
inquest
> >be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the =
events of
> >the 10th and 11th April 2000.
> >
> >The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or =
not an
> >offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
> >
> >As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be =
filed
in
> >the course of next week.
> >
> >In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice =
system
is
> >itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
> >appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal =
Procedure
> >Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, =
friends of
> >justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of =
lawyers,
(both
> >at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution =
of the
> >alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
> >
> >The Attorney General's Chambers will provide logical support; but =
will
> >otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
> >
> >The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of =
local
a
> >prosecutor.
> >
> >As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General's Chambers is =
handicapped
by
> >the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
> >
> >
> >Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
> >Attorney General & Secretary of State
> >For Justice
> >
> >Attorney General's Chambers &
> >Department of State for Justice
> >Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
> >Banjul
> >
> >13 April, 2000
> >
> >
> >
> >Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take =
on this
> >whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both =
sides
of
> >the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
> >
> >April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The =
Gambia,
> >surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 - the KUKOI FIASCO. =
I
join
> >all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to =
the
> >families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad =
event
that
> >could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
> >
> >The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the
constitutional
> >right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there =
are
laws
> >and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from =
a
given
> >authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a =
permit
> >according to the authorities. The Department of State for the =
Interior
sent
> >a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses =
including
GRTS
> >claiming that they have received information on a potential strike =
being
> >organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to =
seek
> >permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
> >demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of =
me, so
I
> >am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a =
permit,
and
> >they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and =
Sunday
April
> >9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of
States
> >and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU
Executive
> >to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 =
since the
> >President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the
> >Executive
> >from the GTTI to StateHouse.
> >
> >On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of =
State for
> >the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and =
to
> >escort
> >them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It =
was
> >during
> >this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some =
GAMSU
> >Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various =
reasons.
> >
> >While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were =
negotiating,
> >some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into =
GTTI.
> >The
> >Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell =
broke
> >loose. I believe the security should and could have contained =
things and
> >this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were
emanating
> >from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out =
numbered
the
> >police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI,
students
> >began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, =
Brikama
> >Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and =
everything
> >within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the
> >majority
> >of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some =
non-students
> >seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot, =
destroy
> >private and public properties, banks etc.
> >
> >The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place.
Soldiers
> >came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed,
> >prisoners
> >were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police =
and the
> >armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and =
individuals,
> >mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of =
fact
some
> >civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under =
custody.
> >
> >Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths =
and
> >injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about =
who
stated
> >the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of =
Sate for
> >the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live =
bullets. The
> >Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event =
will
> >verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is =
that
not
> >single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed
students
> >were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to =
do.
> >
> >The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International =
Bank of
> >Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were
> >generally
> >done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own =
ends.
A
> >lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this =
whole
> >fiasco.
> >
> >Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation =
with
> >their
> >phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their =
action
> >has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, =
having a
> >phone
> >in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a =
good
idea.
> >All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were =
being
said
> >over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the =
phone-in
> >programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the =
security.
> >
> >The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went
beyond
> >their control when other non-students joined in. The security was =
ill
> >prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
> >
> >
> >The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the
> >handling
> >of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. =
The
> >critics
> >could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done =
more for
> >Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters =
to
> >Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them =
by
> >providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds =
around
> >the
> >country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them =
computers
for
> >their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota =
van
> >(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own =
telecentres
> >(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are =
just a
> >few
> >of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
> >University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to =
power.
> >Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other =
time in
the
> >history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is =
very
> >unfair.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >PEACE
> >
> >Tombong
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >______________________________________________________
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Daddy Sang,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just a reminder: The late Eku Mahoney =
was the=20
Commander of the Riot Squad then. He read his inaudible "riot act" but =
every=20
stayed put and then All Hell broke loose. For most of us it more like a =
"flow".=20
The "Agogo" season was over and we were bored</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At the fore-front were also people like =
Junkunda=20
Daffeh, Saul and Charles Jarra, Alassan Sarr, Bai-Mass Taal, Saga =
Taal and=20
Momodou Sedat Jobe . Yes, the very Dr. Saga Taal who is today the =
Secretary=20
General of Jammeh and Sedat-Jobe. In Aku the saying for these kind of =
people is:=20
"Oya, fine boy turn makalo". It was Momodou Sedat Jobe who translated =
Senghore's=20
speech in the "Kent Street Vous" journal that caused all that uproar. =
Today, he=20
is the foreign secretary of one of the most despotic =
regimes.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Prince</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
[log in to unmask]>Emmanuel=20
N'Dow</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
=
[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 16, 2000 =
9:29=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Re: UPDATE]</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>kuts <<A =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>Mr=20
=
Saidy,<BR> &nb=
sp; =20
You might not know this but there was a similar<BR>demonstration in =
1971 in=20
which all the schools in Banjul and environs<BR>participitated. The =
police=20
were unable to control us,they had to call for<BR>help from the Field=20
Force,who were able to control the situation after<BR>several hours!!I =
can't=20
remember any serious injuries ,there were certainly<BR>no fatalities!! =
The=20
"Deporians" were illitirate but they were definately=20
not<BR>PHILISTINES!!<BR> KUTS<BR>I participated in that =
demonstration,=20
it began opposit Gambia High School and<BR>it was staged to =
protest=20
President Senghore's speech in which he accused the<BR>Gambia of =
causing=20
Senegal's economic woes. Senghore was on a stste visit to<BR>the =
Gambia and=20
the demonstration was lead by Crispin Grey Johnson, Koro Sallah<BR>and =
some=20
members of the "Kent Street Vous" along with Lena Manga then =
on<BR>holidays=20
from the U.S; I was not arrested but my friend Pa Joof of fame =
Soto<BR>Koto=20
Vous was; yes kuts your're right the field force were called in =
but<BR>nobody=20
got killed either. It seems to me though illiterate, the field=20
force<BR>understood freedom of speech better than these "sheep in wool =
clothing" i.e<BR>thugs mascarading as soldiers. Tombong you might want =
to=20
visit the achives to<BR>that demonstration, you might learn a thing or =
two=20
about civil disobediance<BR>and how to deal with it.<BR>Daddy=20
Sang<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: alfusainey bah =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>><BR>To: =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
.EDU</A>><BR>Sent:=20
Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:36 AM<BR>Subject: Re: UPDATE<BR><BR><BR>> =
hey=20
Tombong,<BR>> It is very sad that you are using this tragic =
accassion to=20
tell us about<BR>the<BR>> "good things" that Jammeh did for the =
youths of=20
the Gambia. What a shame.<BR>> I have a question that has been =
lingering in=20
me since i read press<BR>releases<BR>> from the defence secretary. =
If the=20
students had guns with life ammunitions<BR>> with them, how come =
there was=20
no security personnel among the dead?<BR>> God Bless and Peace Be =
Upon=20
All.<BR>> Alasana Bah<BR>><BR>> >From: TOMBONG SAIDY =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>><BR>>=
=20
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list<BR>> =
><<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
.EDU</A>><BR>>=20
>To: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
.EDU</A><BR>>=20
>Subject: UPDATE<BR>> >Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:16:16 =
PDT<BR>>=20
><BR>> >Gambia-l,<BR>> ><BR>> >As I promised, I =
would=20
provide information on the ground, after which I<BR>> =
>will<BR>>=20
>give my analysis of the whole situation.<BR>> ><BR>> =
>NUMBER=20
OF DECEASED<BR>> ><BR>> >According to the authorities at =
RVH, the=20
first patients were received at<BR>> >around 11:00 A.M. on =
Monday, 10=20
April 2000. There was a total of 96<BR>> >patients<BR>> =
>seen and=20
all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 from<BR>> =
>Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have =
been<BR>> >discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to =
the=20
Central Division<BR>> >area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven =
reported=20
cases.<BR>> ><BR>> >The total number of death recorded in =
RVH were=20
11 and one reported from<BR>> >Bansang Hospital giving a total =
death=20
toll of 12. So far 11 bodies were<BR>> >identified including the =
one=20
from Bansang. There is still one<BR>unidentified<BR>> >body at =
the RVH,=20
that of a young male teenager.<BR>> ><BR>> >DECEASED=20
REGISTERED<BR>> ><BR>> =
># =20
NAME =
AGE PROF. =20
ADD/SCH. NATLTY<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
>1. Gibi=20
Njie =
- =20
Student Nusrat =20
Gambian<BR>> >2. Karamo =
Barrow =20
24 Student ICE=20
H.S Gambian<BR>>=20
>3. Mohamed L. Chune=20
15 Student LK=20
School Gambian<BR>>=20
>4. Lamin A Bojang =20
19 Student=20
Nusrat =
Gambian<BR>>=20
>5. Ousman=20
Sabally Student=20
Brikamaba Gambian<BR>>=20
>6. Omar =
Barrow 25=20
Journalist Latrikunda =20
Gambian<BR>> >7. Ablie=20
Sajaw 3 Child N.=20
Jeshwang Prsume Gambian<BR>>=20
>8. Bubacar Badgie =20
10 Student=20
Talingding ---------------<BR>>=20
>9. Calisco Prera =20
20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not =
Gambian<BR>>=20
>10. Reginald Carrol=20
25 Student 7 Grand =
St. =20
Sierra Leonean<BR>> >11. Wuyeh =
Mansally =20
19 Student=20
Talingding Senegalese<BR>>=20
>12. =20
=
Unidentified &=
nbsp; =20
Teenager<BR>> ><BR>> >Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay's source, =
the=20
bodies are being released as<BR>> >relatives claim them. There =
are not=20
decomposing bodies and there was no<BR>> >order from President =
Jammeh or=20
any one else for the bodies to be kept<BR>until<BR>> >the =
President's=20
return. Ebrima's source also claimed that there are "14<BR>> =
>confirmed=20
dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could you<BR>>=20
>please asked your source or any body else to come up with the =
names=20
of<BR>the<BR>> >remaining two death bodies.<BR>> ><BR>> =
>PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH<BR>> ><BR>>=20
=
>NAME  =
; =20
=
PROFESSION &nb=
sp; =20
ADDRESS/SCHOOL<BR>> ><BR>> >1. Allasan=20
Suwareh =20
=
Student =
=20
Banjul Academy<BR>> >2. Musa=20
Sembeh 3 yrs old =
child =
Serrekunda<BR>>=20
>3. Yusupha Mbye =20
=
Student =
=20
Pipeline Comprehensive<BR>> >4. Francis=20
Correa =20
=
Businessman &n=
bsp; =20
Serrekunda<BR>> >5. Pa Demba =
Camara =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
Kanifing<BR>> >6. Seeday=20
Jobe =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
Senegalese<BR>> >7. Bakary =
Singateh =20
=
Civilian  =
; =20
Latrikunda Sabiji<BR>> >8. Ousman =
Jobarteh =20
=
Student =
=20
Sepps<BR>> >9. Sering =
Ceesay =20
Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)<BR>> =
>10.=20
Yankuba Darboe Fire=20
=
Officer =
=20
Bakau Station<BR>> >11. Pa Ansu =
Jarjue =20
=
Student =
=20
Forsters (Nema Kunku)<BR>> >12. Lamin=20
Touray Civilian, ex =
GHS Brufut=20
(now residing at<BR>> ><BR>>=20
=
> &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p;  =
; =20
New Jeshwang)<BR>> >13. Momodou =
Ceesay =20
=
Trader &=
nbsp; =20
Dippakunda<BR>> >14. Bakary=20
Njie =20
=
Student =
=20
Pipeline Comprehensive<BR>> >15. Wuyeh=20
Fatty Arabic=20
Student =20
Talinding<BR>> >16. Baba=20
Suwareh =20
=
Student =
=20
Crab Island/ Ebo Town<BR>> >17. John=20
Gomez =20
=
Student =
=20
GTTI / Ebo Town<BR>> >18. Omar=20
Sosseh =20
Student St. A.H.S/ New =
Primet=20
St<BR>> >19. Sulayman Krubally =20
=
Student =
=20
GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe<BR>> >20. Sana=20
Bojang =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
New Jeshwang<BR>> >21. Haddy=20
Camara =20
=
Student =
=20
Ebeneezer High School<BR>> >22. Sainabou =
Camara =20
=
Student =
=20
Bakoteh High School<BR>> >23. Abdou Karim Janneh =20
=
Student =
=20
Sheikh Mass Kah<BR>> >24. Francis=20
Mendy =20
Student St. Agustine's =
H.=20
School<BR>> >25. Alasan =
Jammeh =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
Talingding<BR>> >26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office=20
Brikama<BR>> >27. Oumie=20
Jagne =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
Kanifing<BR>> >28. Amie=20
Jagne =20
=
Civilian  =
; =
=20
Kanifing<BR>> >29. Baboucarr Bahoum =20
=
Student =
=20
Essau High School<BR>> >30. S.=20
Senghore =20
=
Student =
=20
Essau High School<BR>> >31. Modou=20
Joof =20
=
Student =
=20
Essau High School<BR>> ><BR>> >REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC =
&=20
WD<BR>> ><BR>> >Serrekunda Health=20
=
Centre &=
nbsp; =20
79 Cases<BR>> >Brikama Health=20
=
Centre &=
nbsp; =20
31 Cases<BR>> >Fagi-Kunda Health=20
=
Centre &=
nbsp; =20
8 Cases<BR>> >Bakau Health=20
=
Centre &=
nbsp; =20
10 Cases<BR>> ><BR>>=20
=
>TOTAL &nbs=
p;  =
; =20
128 Cases<BR>> ><BR>> >The above were treated and=20
released.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >PRESS RELEASE<BR>>=20
><BR>> >As Attorney General and Secretary of State for =
Justice, it is=20
my<BR>> >constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but =
often=20
competing,<BR>> >principles:<BR>> ><BR>> >i. the =
need to=20
ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to answer<BR>>=20
>for<BR>> >it;<BR>> ><BR>> >ii. and that in so =
doing the=20
accused person must be accorded a fair<BR>> >hearing.<BR>>=20
><BR>> >The latter means that the accused can only be =
arrested and=20
later<BR>convicted<BR>> >if there is sufficient evidence to =
warrant=20
it.<BR>> ><BR>> >The sad events of the last few days =
deserve a=20
response from the<BR>Department<BR>> >of State for Justice in =
line with=20
the dual constitutional role outlined<BR>> >above.<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
>In line with the Government's commitment to the principles=20
of<BR>transparency<BR>> >and accountability, and having regard =
to the=20
fact that justice must not<BR>> >only<BR>> >be done, but =
it must=20
be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers under<BR>> >section =
11(1)=20
of the Coroner's Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is<BR>>=20
>simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that=20
an<BR>inquest<BR>> >be held touching on the death of any persons =
as a=20
result of the events of<BR>> >the 10th and 11th April =
2000.<BR>>=20
><BR>> >The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to =
establish=20
whether or not an<BR>> >offence has been committed by any =
person, known=20
or unknown.<BR>> ><BR>> >As for the case of Ebrima Barry=20
(deceased), an information will be filed<BR>in<BR>> >the course =
of next=20
week.<BR>> ><BR>> >In view of the fact that the =
credibility of our=20
criminal justice system<BR>is<BR>> >itself on trial, the =
Attorney=20
General will take the unusual step of<BR>> >appointing a Public=20
Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal Procedure<BR>> =
>Code. The=20
Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends of<BR>> =
>justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of=20
lawyers,<BR>(both<BR>> >at home and abroad) who can =
satisfactorily=20
conduct the prosecution of the<BR>> >alleged murders of Ebrima=20
Barry.<BR>> ><BR>> >The Attorney General's Chambers will =
provide=20
logical support; but will<BR>> >otherwise do nothing to divert =
or=20
influence the prosecutor.<BR>> ><BR>> >The State will, =
however=20
only be responsible for meeting the cost of local<BR>a<BR>>=20
>prosecutor.<BR>> ><BR>> >As for the case of Binta, the =
Attorney General's Chambers is handicapped<BR>by<BR>> >the =
absence of=20
identification of the alleged culprits.<BR>> ><BR>> =
><BR>>=20
>Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka<BR>> >Attorney General & =
Secretary of=20
State<BR>> >For Justice<BR>> ><BR>> >Attorney =
General's=20
Chambers &<BR>> >Department of State for Justice<BR>> =
>Maummar=20
Ghadaffi Avenue<BR>> >Banjul<BR>> ><BR>> >13 April,=20
2000<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Above are the =
facts=20
from official sources, however I have my take on this<BR>> =
>whole issue.=20
Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both =
sides<BR>of<BR>>=20
>the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go =
around.<BR>>=20
><BR>> >April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the =
history of=20
The Gambia,<BR>> >surpassed only by the events of July 31st, =
1981 - the=20
KUKOI FIASCO. I<BR>join<BR>> >all members of the list to express =
my=20
sympathy and condolence to the<BR>> >families, friend, and loved =
ones of=20
the bereaved. This is a sad event<BR>that<BR>> >could have been =
avoided=20
both by the Security and the Students.<BR>> ><BR>> >The =
Gambia is=20
a democratic country and the students have =
the<BR>constitutional<BR>>=20
>right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there =
are<BR>laws<BR>> >and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some =
form of=20
permit from a<BR>given<BR>> >authority, usually the local =
police. GAMSU=20
never applied for a permit<BR>> >according to the authorities. =
The=20
Department of State for the Interior<BR>sent<BR>> >a press =
release on=20
Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses including<BR>GRTS<BR>>=20
>claiming that they have received information on a potential strike =
being<BR>> >organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned =
students=20
to seek<BR>> >permission and that the security will not take any =
unauthorised<BR>> >demonstration lightly (I do not have the =
press=20
release in front of me, so<BR>I<BR>> >am paraphrasing) . The =
student=20
could have simply applied for a permit,<BR>and<BR>> >they would =
have=20
been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunday<BR>April<BR>> =
>9,=20
some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries=20
of<BR>States<BR>> >and discussed the whole matter. There was an=20
agreement for GAMSU<BR>Executive<BR>> >to meet with the Vice =
President=20
at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since the<BR>> >President will =
not in the=20
country. They demanded an escort for the<BR>> >Executive<BR>> =
>from the GTTI to StateHouse.<BR>> ><BR>> >On Monday =
morning,=20
the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of State for<BR>> >the =
Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and =
to<BR>>=20
>escort<BR>> >them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the =
Vice=20
President. It was<BR>> >during<BR>> >this time that things =
started=20
to get out of hand. Apparently some GAMSU<BR>> >Executives were=20
reluctant to go to the said meeting for various reasons.<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
>While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were=20
negotiating,<BR>> >some GAMSU Members started forcing students =
from=20
school buses into GTTI.<BR>> >The<BR>> >Police =
Intervention Unit=20
came with batons and shields and all hell broke<BR>> >loose. I =
believe=20
the security should and could have contained things and<BR>> =
>this would=20
have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations =
were<BR>emanating<BR>>=20
>from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out=20
numbered<BR>the<BR>> >police and the Intervention Unit. While =
commotion=20
ensued at GTTI,<BR>students<BR>> >began attacking Kotu Police =
and Fire=20
Station, Bundung Police, Brikama<BR>> >Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, =
West=20
Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and everything<BR>> >within their =
reach that=20
is identified with Government. However, the<BR>> =
>majority<BR>>=20
>of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some=20
non-students<BR>> >seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic =
situation to loot, destroy<BR>> >private and public properties, =
banks=20
etc.<BR>> ><BR>> >The army came after a lot of destruction =
has=20
already taken place.<BR>Soldiers<BR>> >came armed, however when =
the=20
police stations were being destroyed,<BR>> >prisoners<BR>> =
>were=20
released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police and =
the<BR>>=20
>armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and=20
individuals,<BR>> >mostly criminal elements and civilians took =
them. As=20
a matter of fact<BR>some<BR>> >civilians have been apprehended =
with arms=20
and they are under custody.<BR>> ><BR>> >Live bullets were =
used=20
and this resulted in the number of deaths and<BR>> >injuries. =
There are=20
all kings of claims and counter claims about who<BR>stated<BR>> =
>the=20
shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sate =
for<BR>>=20
>the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live =
bullets.=20
The<BR>> >Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to =
investigate this=20
event will<BR>> >verify this. However, the strange thing about =
this=20
whole matter is that<BR>not<BR>> >single security official was =
reported=20
shot while a lot of unarmed<BR>students<BR>> >were shot and =
brutally=20
killed. The security has a lot explaining to do.<BR>> ><BR>> =
>The=20
attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank =
of<BR>>=20
>Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets =
were<BR>>=20
>generally<BR>> >done by criminal elements who join the =
demonstration=20
for their own ends.<BR>A<BR>> >lot of foreigners and =
non-students were=20
reported to be part of this whole<BR>> >fiasco.<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
>Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation=20
with<BR>> >their<BR>> >phone-in programmes. Instead they =
added=20
fuel to the fire and their action<BR>> >has caused more havoc =
than good.=20
In such a chaotic situation, having a<BR>> >phone<BR>> >in =
programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a=20
good<BR>idea.<BR>> >All sorts of things, insults, =
misinformation, you=20
named it were being<BR>said<BR>> >over the air and that was why =
they=20
were all ordered to stop the phone-in<BR>> >programmes by the =
security.=20
This was a justified action by the security.<BR>> ><BR>> =
>The=20
students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it=20
went<BR>beyond<BR>> >their control when other non-students =
joined in.=20
The security was ill<BR>> >prepared and overwhelmed and as a =
result they=20
too over reacted.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >The President =
is=20
saddened and mad about the whole incident both the<BR>>=20
>handling<BR>> >of it by the security forces and the manner =
GAMSU=20
went about it. The<BR>> >critics<BR>> >could say any thing =
about=20
President Jammeh, however he has done more for<BR>> >Gambian =
youths than=20
any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to<BR>> >Jawara. =
The=20
President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by<BR>>=20
>providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds=20
around<BR>> >the<BR>> >country to recruit and sensitise =
the=20
students; he bought them computers<BR>for<BR>> >their office; =
gave them=20
a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van<BR>> >(coaster) for =
them,=20
and his is helping them to have their own telecentres<BR>> >(2) =
so that=20
they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just a<BR>>=20
>few<BR>> >of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has =
built=20
schools, a<BR>> >University and many other tertiary =
institutions=20
since he came to power.<BR>> >Gambian youths have more access to =
education now than any other time in<BR>the<BR>> >history of The =
Gambia.=20
To call him names and suggest otherwise is very<BR>> =
>unfair.<BR>>=20
><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> =
><BR>>=20
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:28:21 -0400
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Hi Yus !
Are you the same Yusupha Jow ( Pa Yusu ) from Fajara, Tapha Darboe's
neighbor? Do you have any idea of how much these players are paid per week
or season compared to those at the European Soccer Leaque ?
Have a nice evening
Sal
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> Subject: FOOTBALL (Attn Omar Drammeh)
> Date: April 15, 2000 10:17 PM
>
> I hope this posting is not insensitive in lieu of the recent spate of
events back home.
>
> TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Mamadou Diallo scored twice during a three-goal first
half as the Tampa Bay Mutiny snapped a 233-minute scoring drought and beat
the Colorado Rapids 4-2 Saturday night.
>
> Diallo's diving header in the 14th minute tied it at 1 and was the first
Tampa Bay goal since March 25. He added his second goal, making it 3-1, in
the 38th minute. Jorge Dely Valdes had two goals for Colorado.
>
> Kalin Bankov scored in the 21st minute and Manny Lagos, who missed two
games with an ankle injury, added a goal with just over a minute left for
Tampa Bay.
>
> Eric Quill, who entered with one career, had three Saturday night.
Colorado opened the scoring on Valdes' goal in the 13th minute.
>
> Valdes then got the Rapids within 3-2 in the 57th minute. The Mutiny are
3-0 at home, outscoring their opponents 10-3.
>
> Tampa Bay's Raul Diaz Arce -- who has three goals in three games -- did
not play because of an El Salvador National Team commitment.
>
> Colorado goalkeeper Adin Brown and midfielder Joey DiGamarino are
training with the U.S. Olympic Team.
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Sal, I contacted you with my specifics via private email. But on the issue of salaries, the major league players get paid less than their Euro counterparts. The salaries range from 50,000 to 300,000 dollars. The MLS has wisely imposed a salary cap on each team to control revenue and to also make sure that there is parity in the league. I think each team can only dish out a certain amount in salaries, about 2 million dollars.
This said, I hope that with time the salaries will rise since the standard of soccer out here depends on the quality of players in the league, and they surely don't come cheap.
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16TH APRIL, 2000
STATEMENT TO THE NATION
BY PRESIDENT JAMMEH ON THE STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATION
OF 10TH & 11TH APRIL, 2000
BISI - MILLAHI ARAHMANI
FELLOW CITIZENS
MY TASK TODAY IS INDEED A VERY DIFFICULT ONE, AS IT IS WITH THE DEEPEST
FEELING EVER OF IMMENSE DISTRESS AND UTMOST GRIEF THAT I ADDRESS THE NATION
ON THE UNFORTUNATE AND TRAGIC STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATIONS THAT OCCURED LAST
MONDAY AND TUESDAY. ON THESE TWO DARK DAYS IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY, THIS
NATION SUFFERED IRREPARABLE LOSS OF LIVES AND INCALCULABLE DAMAGE TO
PROPERTIES. MOST REGRETABLE IS THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF THE 12 YOUNG PEOPLE
AND THE LARGE NUMBER OF WOUNDED. I THEREFORE WISH TO TAKE THIS SAD OCCASION
TO JOIN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE OF
THE GAMBIA AND THAT OF MY FAMILY, TO EXTEND DEEPEST CONDOLENCES AND
HEARTFELT SYMPATHY TO BEREAVED PARENTS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, FRIENDS,
CLASSMATES AND LOVED ONES OF OUR DEPARTED CHILDREN. LET US ALL PRAY THAT THE
ALMIGHT ALLAH RECEIVES THEIR SOULS AND GRANT THEM ETERNAL REST. LET US ALSO
PRAY FOR THE SICK AND WOUNDED, TO RECEIVE ALLAH'S SPEEDY HEALING AND
RECOVERY. WE MUST OFFER PRAYERS ALSO FOR THE BEREAVED AND THE NATION, TO BE
COMFORTED, TO HAVE THE FAITH AND COURAGE TO SUSTAIN THEIR LOSS. AS WE
REMEMBERE AND COMMIT THOSE WE LOVED DEARLY IN ALLAH'S CARE, I AM HEREBY
DECLARING ONE WEEK OF MOURNING, DURING WHICH ALL FLAGS IN THE COUNTRY WILL
BE FLOWN AT HALF MAST IN LOVING MEMORY AND RESPECT FOR THE DEAD
FELLOW GAMBIANS
I WANT US ALL TO PUT THIS SAD AND UNPRECEDENTED INCIDENT INTO ITS PROPER
PERSPECTIVE, TO REFLECT ON AND INVESTIGATE INTO THE CAUSES AND TO DRAW
USEFUL LESSONS FROM THE EXPERIENCE. WHILE I WAS IN CUBA ATTENDING THE G 77 -
SOUTH SUMMIT, I HAVE BEEN CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH MY GOVERNMENT ON THE
EVOLUTION OF THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND. EVERYONE WILL AGREE THAT THE
PRIMARY DUTY OF ANY GOVERNMENT IS TO ENSURE THAT PEACE AND STABILITY
PREVAILS IN A COUNTRY, SAFEGUARD THE RIGHTS OF EVERYONE TO LIFE AND
PROPERTY, AND GUANRANTEE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR. MY
GOVERNMENT WILL THEREFORE CONDUCT A FULL INVESTIGATION INTO THE EVENTS OF
THE 10TH AND 11TH APRIL 2000. IN THE INVESTIGATIONS, NO STONE WILL BE LEFT
UNTURNED IN OUR SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH. CONCURRENTLY, A CORONER'S INQUEST WILL
BE HELD ON THE CAUSE OF DEATH OF THE TWELVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR
LIVES IN THIS UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT.
IN THE DAYS THAT LIE AHEAD, I WILL BE COUNTING ON ALL GAMBIANS, RELIGIOUS
LEADERS, LEADERS OF CONSCIENCE TO HELP BRING BACK THE PEACE AND STABILITY
THAT HAS ENABLED US TO HELP NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES TO AVERT THE DANGERS OF
INTERNAL CONFLICT AND STRIFE. WE WANT TO BUILD A SOCIETY WHOSE YOUTH WILL BE
PROUD OF THE EDUCATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
AVAILABLE TO THEM. THIS WILL ENABLE US TO BUILD ON THESE FOUNDATIONS WHICH
WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THE GAMBIA A HAVEN OF PEACE AND STABILITY IN THE
SUB-REGION AND AFRICA AT LARGE. THESE ARE CERTAINLY SOME OF THE ESSENTIAL
PRE-CONDITIONS FOR ATTAINING OUR VISION 2020 OBJECTIVES.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND PRAY THAT THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH CONTINUE
TO SHOWER HIS PEACE AND BLESSING ON THE BEREAVED, THE WOUNDED, AND THE
COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.
ASSALAMU ALAIKUM WARAH MATULLAHI WABARA KATUHU
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Sal,
Call me at 520-977-9020. I tried sending email to your sprynet account but it was returned.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Cheers!
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Hi folks,
Would someone please tell President Jammeh to stop insulting our
intelligence by pretending piousness. I mean, why should the leader of a
secular nation like The Gambia begin and end his address to the nation by
openly siding with one religion, namely, Islam? What would have been the
reaction, I wonder, if he had preceeded his remarks with: "In the name of
Jesus Christ our Lord and savior?" Furthermore, what message is the
President sending to the bereaved Christians? Must Calisco Prera (one the
victims of the killings) be committed to Allah's care, even if he was
Christian? I ask these questions because they need to be, and I suspect
would not be by a lot of people.
Best wishes.
Katim
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Subject: President Jammeh's Address to the Nation
> 16TH APRIL, 2000
>
> STATEMENT TO THE NATION
>
> BY PRESIDENT JAMMEH ON THE STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATION
> OF 10TH & 11TH APRIL, 2000
>
> BISI - MILLAHI ARAHMANI
>
> FELLOW CITIZENS
>
> MY TASK TODAY IS INDEED A VERY DIFFICULT ONE, AS IT IS WITH THE DEEPEST
> FEELING EVER OF IMMENSE DISTRESS AND UTMOST GRIEF THAT I ADDRESS THE
NATION
> ON THE UNFORTUNATE AND TRAGIC STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATIONS THAT OCCURED LAST
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There is really no point in analyzing Mr. Jammeh's speech since it is devoid of any reasonable content. The same old story. It goes something like this: It is with deep regret that blah blah blah. Then to close, in the ultimate act of hypocrisy, he invokes the name of Allah.
Well, my question is whether he regrets giving the executive order to kill children? Among them, a 3 and a 10 year old.
I am sorry but this speech reeks of hypocrisy. It makes me sick. May Allah have mercy on his soul!!!
Yus
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I am gripped by nausea as I read this speech. This is an affront and an
insult to the people of our country, and to their intelligence. Yaya Jammeh
should have had the guts to admit to the people that he gave the order to
shoot to kill our children instead of giving this disgusting speech that is
just an empty rhetoric that says absolutely nothing, except to rub it in the
faces of those whose children he gave the order to butcher.This speech is
like a knife stabbed into the hearts of those whose children were butchered.
I cry for their pain, and for the terror and callousness that has gripped our
nation.What insensitivity, what darkness has been imposed on our country,
what evil forces. How dare Yaya Jammeh give such a speech to the nation after
he gave the order to kill our children in cold blood. I hope the Gambian
people do not fall for this hypocritical call for prayer by someone whose
actions and track record makes it abundantly clear that he neither knows God
nor fears him. Someone who uses religion as a tool to pacify the people so he
can stay on their backs when it is obvious that the best thing he can do for
our country is to pack his bags and dissappear, in short, stop imposing
himself on our people.What a blatant attempt to consolidate the pretense and
lies that have been pedalled by his cronies since they banded together and
murdered our children in cold blood, in broad daylight for one and all to
see. This speech is akin to the wollof saying about the rat that slowly
nibbles at your feet while blowing on them ever so gently, so that you do not
feel the pain, and before you know it, he has eaten your feet right down to
the bone.If the Gambian populace falls for this pacifying affrontery, what
will eventually follow will be like child's play compared to the bloody
butchery that has just taken place in front of their very eyes.Buy this
hypocritical and cowardly speech, and the next thing that will happen will be
the butchering of families and individuals inside their homes. Wake up people
and put an end to this. The Gambian nation has a choice, act now, or perpare
for a nightmare that will be unequalled by any we have seen in the
subregion. Go on a national strike and call for the resignation of this
forked tongue butcher. Such a general strike will shut the government down
and purge this cancer from our midst.The choice belongs to the people.
Jabou Joh
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16TH APRIL, 2000
STATEMENT TO THE NATION
BY PRESIDENT JAMMEH ON THE STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATION
OF 10TH & 11TH APRIL, 2000
BISI - MILLAHI ARAHMANI
FELLOW CITIZENS
MY TASK TODAY IS INDEED A VERY DIFFICULT ONE, AS IT IS WITH THE DEEPEST
FEELING EVER OF IMMENSE DISTRESS AND UTMOST GRIEF THAT I ADDRESS THE NATION
ON THE UNFORTUNATE AND TRAGIC STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATIONS THAT OCCURED LAST
MONDAY AND TUESDAY. ON THESE TWO DARK DAYS IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY, THIS
NATION SUFFERED IRREPARABLE LOSS OF LIVES AND INCALCULABLE DAMAGE TO
PROPERTIES. MOST REGRETABLE IS THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF THE 12 YOUNG PEOPLE
AND THE LARGE NUMBER OF WOUNDED. I THEREFORE WISH TO TAKE THIS SAD OCCASION
TO JOIN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE OF
THE GAMBIA AND THAT OF MY FAMILY, TO EXTEND DEEPEST CONDOLENCES AND
HEARTFELT SYMPATHY TO BEREAVED PARENTS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, FRIENDS,
CLASSMATES AND LOVED ONES OF OUR DEPARTED CHILDREN. LET US ALL PRAY THAT THE
ALMIGHT ALLAH RECEIVES THEIR SOULS AND GRANT THEM ETERNAL REST. LET US ALSO
PRAY FOR THE SICK AND WOUNDED, TO RECEIVE ALLAH'S SPEEDY HEALING AND
RECOVERY. WE MUST OFFER PRAYERS ALSO FOR THE BEREAVED AND THE NATION, TO BE
COMFORTED, TO HAVE THE FAITH AND COURAGE TO SUSTAIN THEIR LOSS. AS WE
REMEMBERE AND COMMIT THOSE WE LOVED DEARLY IN ALLAH'S CARE, I AM HEREBY
DECLARING ONE WEEK OF MOURNING, DURING WHICH ALL FLAGS IN THE COUNTRY WILL
BE FLOWN AT HALF MAST IN LOVING MEMORY AND RESPECT FOR THE DEAD
FELLOW GAMBIANS
I WANT US ALL TO PUT THIS SAD AND UNPRECEDENTED INCIDENT INTO ITS PROPER
PERSPECTIVE, TO REFLECT ON AND INVESTIGATE INTO THE CAUSES AND TO DRAW
USEFUL LESSONS FROM THE EXPERIENCE. WHILE I WAS IN CUBA ATTENDING THE G 77 -
SOUTH SUMMIT, I HAVE BEEN CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH MY GOVERNMENT ON THE
EVOLUTION OF THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND. EVERYONE WILL AGREE THAT THE
PRIMARY DUTY OF ANY GOVERNMENT IS TO ENSURE THAT PEACE AND STABILITY
PREVAILS IN A COUNTRY, SAFEGUARD THE RIGHTS OF EVERYONE TO LIFE AND
PROPERTY, AND GUANRANTEE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR. MY
GOVERNMENT WILL THEREFORE CONDUCT A FULL INVESTIGATION INTO THE EVENTS OF
THE 10TH AND 11TH APRIL 2000. IN THE INVESTIGATIONS, NO STONE WILL BE LEFT
UNTURNED IN OUR SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH. CONCURRENTLY, A CORONER'S INQUEST WILL
BE HELD ON THE CAUSE OF DEATH OF THE TWELVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR
LIVES IN THIS UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT.
IN THE DAYS THAT LIE AHEAD, I WILL BE COUNTING ON ALL GAMBIANS, RELIGIOUS
LEADERS, LEADERS OF CONSCIENCE TO HELP BRING BACK THE PEACE AND STABILITY
THAT HAS ENABLED US TO HELP NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES TO AVERT THE DANGERS OF
INTERNAL CONFLICT AND STRIFE. WE WANT TO BUILD A SOCIETY WHOSE YOUTH WILL BE
PROUD OF THE EDUCATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
AVAILABLE TO THEM. THIS WILL ENABLE US TO BUILD ON THESE FOUNDATIONS WHICH
WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THE GAMBIA A HAVEN OF PEACE AND STABILITY IN THE
SUB-REGION AND AFRICA AT LARGE. THESE ARE CERTAINLY SOME OF THE ESSENTIAL
PRE-CONDITIONS FOR ATTAINING OUR VISION 2020 OBJECTIVES.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND PRAY THAT THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH CONTINUE
TO SHOWER HIS PEACE AND BLESSING ON THE BEREAVED, THE WOUNDED, AND THE
COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.
ASSALAMU ALAIKUM WARAH MATULLAHI WABARA KATUHU
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Oh yes, here we go again. Just as a lot of members have already predicted.
The guy is the most unintelligent and predictable leader. His hypocrisy is
not questionable. A president who could stay outside your nation for almost a
week and call among those few days "the Dark days." Why were you not there
then as the President? Does he want to say that he could not address the
nation form Cuba?
Mr. Jemus the murderer, tell us the truth. Tell us that you ordered the "open
firing" as your vice killer Saidy rightly said. Tell us that you meant what
you said to threaten the students that you and your government "will not take
any student demonstrations lightly." Why not just be a man for one day?
Mr. Jemus the killer, no head of state who cares for his/her country would be
away in her dark days. If you think that the usual "we will investigate" is
the excuse of the day, the Gambian people have grown to know the difference.
Please be a man for one day and accept responsibility.
Ousman Bojang.
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Well Jammeh,
After working hard for over 5 days on a speech this is the only thing that
you can say. Is the opening line in your speech something you really mean or
do you just hear people say and you follow? Am sure if one listens to you
properly, one will notice how difficult it was to pronounce these words.
Jammeh are you the same person who bragged in front of whole Gambia in your
last 'interwhatever' with GRTS during the crude oil saga? If you are not a
coward as portrayed by your speech, then tell us who ordered the shooting.
Jammeh unlike you, it took us a short time to put into PROPER PERSPECTIVE,
TO REFLECT ON AND INVESTIGATE INTO THE CAUSES AND TO DRAW LESSONS. Here are
the results;
1. You and your Government killed innocent children using live bullets.
2. You and your Government failed to accept the truth that you failed and
must go!
3. All this is caused by your desire to hang on to power by 'hooky or
crooky' for that matter even killing children.
4. We must never allow you and you likes to assume power ever again.
No need to preach the duty of Government, since you have never and will
never follow or practice what you preach. In fact it is an insult for you to
tell us since it should be the other way round. Again you are quick to say
no stone will be left unturned, but up until now your Government have not
unturned the stone in Koro Ceesay's case.
Yaya, there is no need for you to seek help in finding peace and stability.
No religious leaders etc needed, you know the problem of the Gambian peace
and stability? well it is you Yaya AJJ Jammeh.
A.Drammeh
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From: "TOMBONG SAIDY" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 10:48 PM
Subject: President Jammeh's Address to the Nation
> 16TH APRIL, 2000
>
> STATEMENT TO THE NATION
>
> BY PRESIDENT JAMMEH ON THE STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATION
> OF 10TH & 11TH APRIL, 2000
>
> BISI - MILLAHI ARAHMANI
>
> FELLOW CITIZENS
>
> MY TASK TODAY IS INDEED A VERY DIFFICULT ONE, AS IT IS WITH THE DEEPEST
> FEELING EVER OF IMMENSE DISTRESS AND UTMOST GRIEF THAT I ADDRESS THE
NATION
> ON THE UNFORTUNATE AND TRAGIC STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATIONS THAT OCCURED LAST
> MONDAY AND TUESDAY. ON THESE TWO DARK DAYS IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY, THIS
> NATION SUFFERED IRREPARABLE LOSS OF LIVES AND INCALCULABLE DAMAGE TO
> PROPERTIES. MOST REGRETABLE IS THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF THE 12 YOUNG PEOPLE
> AND THE LARGE NUMBER OF WOUNDED. I THEREFORE WISH TO TAKE THIS SAD
OCCASION
> TO JOIN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE
OF
> THE GAMBIA AND THAT OF MY FAMILY, TO EXTEND DEEPEST CONDOLENCES AND
> HEARTFELT SYMPATHY TO BEREAVED PARENTS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, FRIENDS,
> CLASSMATES AND LOVED ONES OF OUR DEPARTED CHILDREN. LET US ALL PRAY THAT
THE
> ALMIGHT ALLAH RECEIVES THEIR SOULS AND GRANT THEM ETERNAL REST. LET US
ALSO
> PRAY FOR THE SICK AND WOUNDED, TO RECEIVE ALLAH'S SPEEDY HEALING AND
> RECOVERY. WE MUST OFFER PRAYERS ALSO FOR THE BEREAVED AND THE NATION, TO
BE
> COMFORTED, TO HAVE THE FAITH AND COURAGE TO SUSTAIN THEIR LOSS. AS WE
> REMEMBERE AND COMMIT THOSE WE LOVED DEARLY IN ALLAH'S CARE, I AM HEREBY
> DECLARING ONE WEEK OF MOURNING, DURING WHICH ALL FLAGS IN THE COUNTRY WILL
> BE FLOWN AT HALF MAST IN LOVING MEMORY AND RESPECT FOR THE DEAD
>
> FELLOW GAMBIANS
>
> I WANT US ALL TO PUT THIS SAD AND UNPRECEDENTED INCIDENT INTO ITS PROPER
> PERSPECTIVE, TO REFLECT ON AND INVESTIGATE INTO THE CAUSES AND TO DRAW
> USEFUL LESSONS FROM THE EXPERIENCE. WHILE I WAS IN CUBA ATTENDING THE G
77 -
> SOUTH SUMMIT, I HAVE BEEN CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH MY GOVERNMENT ON THE
> EVOLUTION OF THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND. EVERYONE WILL AGREE THAT THE
> PRIMARY DUTY OF ANY GOVERNMENT IS TO ENSURE THAT PEACE AND STABILITY
> PREVAILS IN A COUNTRY, SAFEGUARD THE RIGHTS OF EVERYONE TO LIFE AND
> PROPERTY, AND GUANRANTEE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR. MY
> GOVERNMENT WILL THEREFORE CONDUCT A FULL INVESTIGATION INTO THE EVENTS OF
> THE 10TH AND 11TH APRIL 2000. IN THE INVESTIGATIONS, NO STONE WILL BE LEFT
> UNTURNED IN OUR SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH. CONCURRENTLY, A CORONER'S INQUEST
WILL
> BE HELD ON THE CAUSE OF DEATH OF THE TWELVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR
> LIVES IN THIS UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT.
>
> IN THE DAYS THAT LIE AHEAD, I WILL BE COUNTING ON ALL GAMBIANS, RELIGIOUS
> LEADERS, LEADERS OF CONSCIENCE TO HELP BRING BACK THE PEACE AND STABILITY
> THAT HAS ENABLED US TO HELP NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES TO AVERT THE DANGERS OF
> INTERNAL CONFLICT AND STRIFE. WE WANT TO BUILD A SOCIETY WHOSE YOUTH WILL
BE
> PROUD OF THE EDUCATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
> AVAILABLE TO THEM. THIS WILL ENABLE US TO BUILD ON THESE FOUNDATIONS WHICH
> WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THE GAMBIA A HAVEN OF PEACE AND STABILITY IN THE
> SUB-REGION AND AFRICA AT LARGE. THESE ARE CERTAINLY SOME OF THE ESSENTIAL
> PRE-CONDITIONS FOR ATTAINING OUR VISION 2020 OBJECTIVES.
>
> I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND PRAY THAT THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH
CONTINUE
> TO SHOWER HIS PEACE AND BLESSING ON THE BEREAVED, THE WOUNDED, AND THE
> COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.
>
> ASSALAMU ALAIKUM WARAH MATULLAHI WABARA KATUHU
>
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Hi folks,
I thought I should bring you the sad news of the killing of civilians by Gambian
security forces last week. In these unfortunate and tragic incidents, a
journalist, Omar Barrow, lost his life as he was going about his duties as a Red
Cross/Red Crescent volunteer. For your information, I am appending an article
from "The Independent Newspaper" of The Gambia whose Web site you can find at:
http://www.qanet.gm/Independent/independent.html
The article also includes a press-release from the Gambia Press Union
([log in to unmask]), and you can, if you would like to, contact them for more
information about their colleague, Omar Barrow.
As you can imagine, there's been an outrage in the widely dispersed global
Gambian community. You can review postings on the issue at the Gambia-L
archives at:
http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html
For your information, the archives also include a recent posting that was the
address given by President Jammeh to the nation,
(http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?A2=ind0004&L=gambia-l&F=P&S=&P=91506)
on his return from the G-77 meeting in Havana, Cuba, almost a full week after
the tragic events happened in The Gambia. If you ever thought that the year
2000 spells a new beginning, I think you should think again. It certainly seems
that at least for The Gambia, the more things change, the more they remain the
same.
And I'm sending this e-mail out in the belief that the best medicine against
such atrocities is to make sure that the whole world knows. From now on out, we
will make sure that President Jammeh's full record follows him where ever he
goes.
Thanks for reading this, and please excuse me if you find it out of place.
Sincerely,
Katim S. Touray
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------------------------- START OF APPENDED ARTICLE FROM "THE INDEPENDENT
NEWSPAPER" -----------------------
The Inependent Published Saturday, 15 April, 2000
Gov't blamed for Omar
Barrow's death
Sheikh Lewis, President of the International Society for Human
Rights,
Gambia, has laid the blame for the killing of Sud-FM news
editor and Red
Cross volunteer Omar Barrow, at the feet of the Gambia
Government.
He said the Gambia Government is 'purely responsible' for the
death of Omar
Barrow, who was reportedly shot dead by security forces at the
Red Cross
premises in Kanifing during Monday's student demonstrations.
Speaking during Mr Barrow's funeral at the Latrikunda mosque,
Mr. Lewis said
'the government should be blamed as soldiers don't have the
right to shoot
and kill innocent civilians'. He said journalists and Red
Cross volunteers are
neutral and non-political and as a result, should not be
targeted by security
forces when in the line of their duties.
At an emotional gathering, Mr. Lewis stressed that it was the
duty of security
personnel to maintain law and order and to ensure the safety
of civilians
during such troubles, 'not to kill them'.
He added that 10th April would be a Remembrance Day not only
for the
Gambia Red Cross Society, but also for the Red Cross
world-wide.
Outass Abdoulie Drammeh, also speaking at the funeral service,
described
Omar Barrow as an intelligent young man whose death was a
great loss not
only to The Gambia, but to Africa as a whole. He said Mr
Barrow was highly
respected in the society and contributed greatly in informing
the general
public. He added that Mr. Barrow contributed greatly to the
development of
Radio Sud FM, where he was an editor.
Sheriff Saye, Alieu Badara Njie, Cherno Jallow of the Gambia
Press Union
(GPU), and Swaebou Conateh of the Gambia News and Report
magazine all
spoke highly of Mr. Barrow's contribution to the media. They
expressed
heart-felt grief over the incident.
Mam Saye Njie told this reporter at the gathering that
Monday's shooting of
innocent school children and journalist Omar Barrow was akin
to the
Tiananmen Square killing in China and urged the authorities to
respect the
human rights of all Gambians.
Meanwhile, the Gambia Press Union issued a press release on
Tuesday
condemning the killing of Omar Barrow. The full text of the
release is
reproduced below:
'The death on Monday of a young and promising journalist will
certainly go
down as a dark stain in the history of the second Republic.
Omar Barrow died when allegedly shot by a soldier as he stood
inside the
compound of the Red Cross Headquarters at Kanifing.
Barrow died while serving as a Red Cross volunteer called to
duty by the
emergency. He has now paid the highest price with his life to
a cause of
selfless service to humanity he strongly believed in.
His untimely death has shown the whole world the
trigger-happy, gunho
attitude of our security forces in their unprofessional
dealings with civilians
and un-armed students and journalists.
The Gambia Press Union condemns this dastardly, brutal act of
members of
the Security Forces and calls on government to immediately set
up a
commission of inquiry into the death of Omar Barrow and all
those who lost
their lives in the disturbances.
The GPU further believes that the situation could have been
better managed
if the authorities did not lose their heads by over-reacting
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Hi folks,
<p>I thought I should bring you the sad news of the killing of civilians
by Gambian security forces last week. In these unfortunate and tragic
incidents, a journalist, Omar Barrow, lost his life as he was going about
his duties as a Red Cross/Red Crescent volunteer. For your information,
I am appending an article from "The Independent Newspaper" of The Gambia
whose Web site you can find at:
<p> <A HREF="http://www.qanet.gm/Independent/independent.html">http://www.qanet.gm/Independent/independent.html</A>
<p>The article also includes a press-release from the Gambia Press Union
([log in to unmask]), and you can, if you would like to, contact them for more
information about their colleague, Omar Barrow.
<p>As you can imagine, there's been an outrage in the widely dispersed
global Gambian community. You can review postings on the issue at
the Gambia-L archives at:
<p> <A HREF="http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html">http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html</A>
<p>For your information, the archives also include a recent posting that
was the address given by President Jammeh to the nation, (<a href="http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?A2=ind0004&L=gambia-l&F=P&S=&P=91506">http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?A2=ind0004&L=gambia-l&F=P&S=&P=91506</a>)
on his return from the G-77 meeting in Havana, Cuba, almost a full week
after the tragic events happened in The Gambia. If you ever thought
that the year 2000 spells a new beginning, I think you should think again.
It certainly seems that at least for The Gambia, the more things change,
the more they remain the same.
<p>And I'm sending this e-mail out in the belief that the best medicine
against such atrocities is to make sure that the whole world knows.
From now on out, we will make sure that President Jammeh's full record
follows him where ever he goes.
<p>Thanks for reading this, and please excuse me if you find it out of
place.
<p>Sincerely,
<p>Katim S. Touray
<br>[log in to unmask]
<p>------------------------- START OF APPENDED ARTICLE FROM "THE
INDEPENDENT NEWSPAPER" -----------------------
<p>
The Inependent Published Saturday, 15 April, 2000
<br>
Gov't blamed for Omar
<br>
Barrow's death
<br>
Sheikh Lewis, President of the International Society for Human Rights,
<br>
Gambia, has laid the blame for the killing of Sud-FM news editor and Red
<br>
Cross volunteer Omar Barrow, at the feet of the Gambia Government.
<p>
He said the Gambia Government is 'purely responsible' for the death of
Omar
<br>
Barrow, who was reportedly shot dead by security forces at the Red Cross
<br>
premises in Kanifing during Monday's student demonstrations.
<p>
Speaking during Mr Barrow's funeral at the Latrikunda mosque, Mr. Lewis
said
<br>
'the government should be blamed as soldiers don't have the right to shoot
<br>
and kill innocent civilians'. He said journalists and Red Cross volunteers
are
<br>
neutral and non-political and as a result, should not be targeted by security
<br>
forces when in the line of their duties.
<p>
At an emotional gathering, Mr. Lewis stressed that it was the duty of security
<br>
personnel to maintain law and order and to ensure the safety of civilians
<br>
during such troubles, 'not to kill them'.
<p>
He added that 10th April would be a Remembrance Day not only for the
<br>
Gambia Red Cross Society, but also for the Red Cross world-wide.
<p>
Outass Abdoulie Drammeh, also speaking at the funeral service, described
<br>
Omar Barrow as an intelligent young man whose death was a great loss not
<br>
only to The Gambia, but to Africa as a whole. He said Mr Barrow was
highly
<br>
respected in the society and contributed greatly in informing the general
<br>
public. He added that Mr. Barrow contributed greatly to the development
of
<br>
Radio Sud FM, where he was an editor.
<p>
Sheriff Saye, Alieu Badara Njie, Cherno Jallow of the Gambia Press Union
<br>
(GPU), and Swaebou Conateh of the Gambia News and Report magazine all
<br>
spoke highly of Mr. Barrow's contribution to the media. They expressed
<br>
heart-felt grief over the incident.
<p>
Mam Saye Njie told this reporter at the gathering that Monday's shooting
of
<br>
innocent school children and journalist Omar Barrow was akin to the
<br>
Tiananmen Square killing in China and urged the authorities to respect
the
<br>
human rights of all Gambians.
<p>
Meanwhile, the Gambia Press Union issued a press release on Tuesday
<br>
condemning the killing of Omar Barrow. The full text of the release is
<br>
reproduced below:
<p>
'The death on Monday of a young and promising journalist will certainly
go
<br>
down as a dark stain in the history of the second Republic.
<p>
Omar Barrow died when allegedly shot by a soldier as he stood inside the
<br>
compound of the Red Cross Headquarters at Kanifing.
<p>
Barrow died while serving as a Red Cross volunteer called to duty by the
<br>
emergency. He has now paid the highest price with his life to a cause of
<br>
selfless service to humanity he strongly believed in.
<p>
His untimely death has shown the whole world the trigger-happy, gunho
<br>
attitude of our security forces in their unprofessional dealings with civilians
<br>
and un-armed students and journalists.
<p>
The Gambia Press Union condemns this dastardly, brutal act of members of
<br>
the Security Forces and calls on government to immediately set up a
<br>
commission of inquiry into the death of Omar Barrow and all those who lost
<br>
their lives in the disturbances.
<p>
The GPU further believes that the situation could have been better managed
<br>
if the authorities did not lose their heads by over-reacting
<p>------------------------- END OF APPENDED ARTICLE FROM "THE INDEPENDENT
NEWSPAPER" ---------------
<br> </html>
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Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:38:47 PDT
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Daddy Sang,
Just a reminder: The late Eku Mahoney was the Commander of the Riot Squad=
then. He read his inaudible "riot act" but every stayed put and then All =
Hell
broke loose. For most of us it more like a "flow". The "Agogo" season wa=
s
over and we were bored
At the fore-front were also people like Junkunda Daffeh, Saul and Charles=
Jarra, Alassan Sarr, Bai-Mass Taal, Saga Taal and Momodou Sedat Jobe . Ye=
s,
the very Dr. Saga Taal who is today the Secretary General of Jammeh and
Sedat-Jobe. In Aku the saying for these kind of people is: "Oya, fine boy=
turn
makalo". It was Momodou Sedat Jobe who translated Senghore's speech in th=
e
"Kent Street Vous" journal that caused all that uproar. Today, he is the
foreign secretary of one of the most despotic regimes.
Prince
Beola, thanks for the additional info, the demonstration you refer to occ=
urred
the next day near Quadrangle in from the Department of education,I was wo=
rking
at the Income Tax Office then. Eku Mahoney along with my causin Edu Gomez=
were
the commanding officers in charge. Do you remember the name of the fellow=
they
arrested that day?, I could only remember his last name Cham. After he wa=
s
arrested, they claimed that he was not born in the Gambia and that he sho=
uld
be deported. Charles Jow(RIP) intervene with then minister of education I=
=2EM
Garba Jahumpha. Whatever became of that fellow do you know? He was in the=
sixth form then.
Three years later, we were in Boston, Bai-Mass Taal, Matarr and Adi Njie =
and I
remenising about it and how they made them march under the hot sun at Dep=
ot as
part of their punishment especially for Bai-Mass and Pa Joof(laugh) In al=
l
this nobody lost their life, Jammeh should take a lesson from that.
Daddy Sang
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From: Emmanuel N'Dow =
To: [log in to unmask] =
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: UPDATE]
kuts <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mr Saidy,
You might not know this but there was a similar
demonstration in 1971 in which all the schools in Banjul and environs
participitated. The police were unable to control us,they had to call f=
or
help from the Field Force,who were able to control the situation after
several hours!!I can't remember any serious injuries ,there were certai=
nly
no fatalities!! The "Deporians" were illitirate but they were definatel=
y
not
PHILISTINES!!
KUTS
I participated in that demonstration, it began opposit Gambia High Scho=
ol
and
it was staged to protest President Senghore's speech in which he accus=
ed
the
Gambia of causing Senegal's economic woes. Senghore was on a stste visi=
t to
the Gambia and the demonstration was lead by Crispin Grey Johnson, Koro=
Sallah
and some members of the "Kent Street Vous" along with Lena Manga then o=
n
holidays from the U.S; I was not arrested but my friend Pa Joof of fame=
Soto
Koto Vous was; yes kuts your're right the field force were called in bu=
t
nobody got killed either. It seems to me though illiterate, the field f=
orce
understood freedom of speech better than these "sheep in wool clothing"=
i.e
thugs mascarading as soldiers. Tombong you might want to visit the achi=
ves
to
that demonstration, you might learn a thing or two about civil disobedi=
ance
and how to deal with it.
Daddy Sang
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From: alfusainey bah <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: UPDATE
> hey Tombong,
> It is very sad that you are using this tragic accassion to tell us ab=
out
the
> "good things" that Jammeh did for the youths of the Gambia. What a sh=
ame.
> I have a question that has been lingering in me since i read press
releases
> from the defence secretary. If the students had guns with life
ammunitions
> with them, how come there was no security personnel among the dead?
> God Bless and Peace Be Upon All.
> Alasana Bah
>
> >From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: UPDATE
> >Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:16:16 PDT
> >
> >Gambia-l,
> >
> >As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after whic=
h I
> >will
> >give my analysis of the whole situation.
> >
> >NUMBER OF DECEASED
> >
> >According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were receive=
d at
> >around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96
> >patients
> >seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 f=
rom
> >Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have b=
een
> >discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central Divi=
sion
> >area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
> >
> >The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported f=
rom
> >Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies w=
ere
> >identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one
unidentified
> >body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
> >
> >DECEASED REGISTERED
> >
> ># NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
> >
> >1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
> >2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
> >3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
> >4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
> >5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
> >6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
> >7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
> >8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding ------------=
---
> >9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
> >10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra Leone=
an
> >11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
> >12. Unidentified Teenager
> >
> >Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay's source, the bodies are being released as=
> >relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there was=
no
> >order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be kep=
t
until
> >the President's return. Ebrima's source also claimed that there are =
"14
> >confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could =
you
> >please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names =
of
the
> >remaining two death bodies.
> >
> >PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
> >
> >NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
> >
> >1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
> >2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
> >3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline Comprehensi=
ve
> >4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
> >5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
> >6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
> >7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
> >8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
> >9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
> >10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau Statio=
n
> >11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema Kunku=
)
> >12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
> >
> > New Jeshwang)
> >13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
> >14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline Comprehensi=
ve
> >15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
> >16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo Tow=
n
> >17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
> >18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
> >19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jo=
be
> >20. Sana Bojang Civilian New Jeshwang=
> >21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High Schoo=
l
> >22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
> >23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
> >24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine's H. School
> >25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
> >26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
> >27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
> >30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
> >31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
> >
> >REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
> >
> >Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
> >Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
> >Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
> >Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
> >
> >TOTAL 128 Cases
> >
> >The above were treated and released.
> >
> >
> >PRESS RELEASE
> >
> >As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
> >constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competin=
g,
> >principles:
> >
> >i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to an=
swer
> >for
> >it;
> >
> >ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair
> >hearing.
> >
> >The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later
convicted
> >if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
> >
> >The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the
Department
> >of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role outli=
ned
> >above.
> >
> >In line with the Government's commitment to the principles of
transparency
> >and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must =
not
> >only
> >be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers un=
der
> >section 11(1) of the Coroner's Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
> >simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an
inquest
> >be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the even=
ts
of
> >the 10th and 11th April 2000.
> >
> >The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or no=
t an
> >offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
> >
> >As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be f=
iled
in
> >the course of next week.
> >
> >In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice sys=
tem
is
> >itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
> >appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal
Procedure
> >Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friend=
s of
> >justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers,=
(both
> >at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution o=
f
the
> >alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
> >
> >The Attorney General's Chambers will provide logical support; but wi=
ll
> >otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
> >
> >The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of
local
a
> >prosecutor.
> >
> >As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General's Chambers is handica=
pped
by
> >the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
> >
> >
> >Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
> >Attorney General & Secretary of State
> >For Justice
> >
> >Attorney General's Chambers &
> >Department of State for Justice
> >Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
> >Banjul
> >
> >13 April, 2000
> >
> >
> >
> >Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take on=
this
> >whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both s=
ides
of
> >the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
> >
> >April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The Gamb=
ia,
> >surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 - the KUKOI FIASCO. =
I
join
> >all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to the=
> >families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad even=
t
that
> >could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
> >
> >The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the
constitutional
> >right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there a=
re
laws
> >and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from a=
given
> >authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a permi=
t
> >according to the authorities. The Department of State for the Interi=
or
sent
> >a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses includin=
g
GRTS
> >claiming that they have received information on a potential strike b=
eing
> >organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to seek=
> >permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
> >demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of m=
e,
so
I
> >am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a permi=
t,
and
> >they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunda=
y
April
> >9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of
States
> >and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU
Executive
> >to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since=
the
> >President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the
> >Executive
> >from the GTTI to StateHouse.
> >
> >On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of Stat=
e
for
> >the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and t=
o
> >escort
> >them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It wa=
s
> >during
> >this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some GA=
MSU
> >Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various reas=
ons.
> >
> >While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were negotiat=
ing,
> >some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into G=
TTI.
> >The
> >Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell b=
roke
> >loose. I believe the security should and could have contained things=
and
> >this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were
emanating
> >from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out numbe=
red
the
> >police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI,
students
> >began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, Brikam=
a
> >Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and
everything
> >within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the
> >majority
> >of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some non-studen=
ts
> >seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot, des=
troy
> >private and public properties, banks etc.
> >
> >The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place.
Soldiers
> >came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed,
> >prisoners
> >were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police an=
d
the
> >armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and individua=
ls,
> >mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fac=
t
some
> >civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody=
=2E
> >
> >Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths and=
> >injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about who=
stated
> >the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sat=
e
for
> >the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets=
=2E
The
> >Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event =
will
> >verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is t=
hat
not
> >single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed
students
> >were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to =
do.
> >
> >The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank=
of
> >Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were
> >generally
> >done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own e=
nds.
A
> >lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this
whole
> >fiasco.
> >
> >Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation wi=
th
> >their
> >phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their
action
> >has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having=
a
> >phone
> >in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good=
idea.
> >All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were bein=
g
said
> >over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the phon=
e-in
> >programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the secur=
ity.
> >
> >The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went
beyond
> >their control when other non-students joined in. The security was il=
l
> >prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
> >
> >
> >The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the
> >handling
> >of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The=
> >critics
> >could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more=
for
> >Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters t=
o
> >Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them b=
y
> >providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds ar=
ound
> >the
> >country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them comput=
ers
for
> >their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van=
> >(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own
telecentres
> >(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are ju=
st a
> >few
> >of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
> >University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to po=
wer.
> >Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time=
in
the
> >history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is ve=
ry
> >unfair.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >PEACE
> >
> >Tombong
> >
> >
> >
> >
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TOMBONG THE EPITOME OF BAD APPLES
Mr Tombong Saidso, excuse me I mean Saidy, since you seem to claim yourself as a reliable source of information and since many such as myself have low tolerance for this regime, why don't you cut to the chase and go tell your boss Yahya that all we ask is for him to free the Gambian People he held hostage. That the people are tired of being used and abused and we want his immediate resignation. Give us some feedback nothing but the truth and we will then decide how credible you are,Mr Saidso. As for Yahya
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I thought uncle TOM BOY Saidy was in france when those progressive radio
exchanges were goin on? How the hell on earth does he know what irrate were
citizen's were spewing on the air, unless they GRTV spy on these media
forums, 24-7.
Get a life UNCLE TOM.
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Hi folks,
FYI.
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Hello friends:
We're wondering if anyone knows of any agencies/organizations who can help with
sending medical supplies and medicine back home. We have acquired many boxes and
are looking for a reliable way to get things back home where they are really
needed. We're about to embark on a search for resources but thought we would
consult with this list first to see if anyone has specific leads. In adition, if
anyone is sending things home themselves and would like to include a box of
medical supplies we do have quite a few we can give you. Just let us know....
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List Members,
Below is a briefing on a meeting of a group of Gambians and non Gambians held
on
April 16, 2000, in New York. The meeting was mainly organized in reaction to
the tragic
events that took place in the Gambia on April 10 and 11 respectively.
Participants
The meeting was attended by a cross section of Gambians from New York and Con-
necticut, representatives from the Sierra Leonean Community in New York, the
Afri-
can American Community and other African nationalities.
Issues Discussed
All the speakers at the meeting condemned the April 10 and 11 events and urged
that every thing be done to avert a repeat of the tragedy.
It was decided that contacts be made with human rights organizations and
other international organizations like the UN to sensitize them about the sad
developments
in the Gambia and ask for their cooperation in putting them to an end.
A Steering Committee has been put in place to carry out a number action plans
including the organization of demonstration starting from the UN Gambia
mission to
the United Nation Building on May 9, 2000.
All the contributors from the represented communities pledged their support
for the
crusade against the ongoing events in the Gambia.
It was suggested that participants at the meeting should remain active even
after the
organization of the proposed demonstratoins,an organization to be named The
Movement For The Restoration of Democracy In The Gambia will be formed to
this
effect.
Conclusion
The meeting urged all Gambians and non Gambians in the tri -state area to
attend the demonstrations slated for the 11 of May 2000.
GIBRIL BAH
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Brother don't worry, within the next couple of days, you'll hear of heads
rolling [firings] including UNCLE TOM BOY SAIDY. I don't think , this time,
Yahya will fall for fall for his only weakness of symphatizing with fired
govt. workers kneeling, crying and begging for mercy from Massa-boss, as had
happened to Tombong, Balla Jahumpa and Blaise.
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EXTRATOUCH LEADS BY EXAMPLE
Extra Touch, the popular youth show on GRTS indeed brought tears to the eyes of many gambians yesterday. Away from the insensitivity of grts over the past few days, Lamin Manga did a wonderful tribute on behalf of Omar Barrow and the murdered students. Let us hope and pray that GRTS observe the 7 days of mourning in this manner showing respect for the dead, for we have seen that Extra touch already started long before Yahya Jammeh sopke about it..........
May the souls of these bothers and sisters rest in peace..............
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Guys, jammeh runs the show in the gambia, even while in cuba. His cabinet is
so traumatize and knowing my "DISOWNED aunty ise, her daring mind would never
think of such ghastardly deed without the blessing of Yahya Jammeh. Former
insider's would tell you that his phone rings from banjul/kaninglai for
every petty thing that happens in his absence, infact, on one occasion, while
enroute to taiwan,he was heard yelling at the VP for being too lackluster and
not assertive in decision making while she's in charge of the nation.
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tonbong give us a break.anarchy is what is unfolding in the gambia.you are a
hypocrite to the MAX.jemus should have been in the gambia since on tuesday
to address the nation,and the only thing you have to say is that he will
address the nation soon,when is soon?you all are murderers and blood
suckers.
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>Gajigo,
>
>There were Phone-in programmes at GRTS Radio (Radio Gambia - which covers
>the entire country) and SUD FM Banjul as well. All were asked to stop by
>the
>authorities.
>
>There is no ban on phone-in programmes in The Gambia. They were stopped
>because at the time everyone was "pist-off" about the whole situation and
>instead more ham was being done. The hosts of these programmes, the guests,
>the callers were all angry and instead of engaging in a dialogue and trying
>to calm down the situation, they were just exchanging accusations and
>counter accusations. They were all blaming each other and threatening each
>other. They were not calling for calm, but instead their actions and words
>were just adding fuel to the already raging fire. This was the reason these
>three radio stations were asked to stop the phone-in programmes.
>
>There are times when certain undemocratic actions are taken to preserve
>democracy, avoid anarchy etc. This was just one of those undemocratic
>actions taken to help in restoring calm and tranquillity in the country.
>When President Kennedy was assassinated in Texas and an investigation
>ensued, there were certain information that were never released to the
>public despite endless court battles from different fronts. Certain
>information were classified and released only after 25 years or so. The
>same
>applies to other matters such as the Watergate files. This has been done
>and
>it is being done despite the existence of the Freedom of Information Act.
>The authorities in the US knew that if some of the information were
>released
>at the time, things could have gone out of control. They were released
>after
>a "healing period". The same thing applies in this case.
>
>I have listened to recorded versions of all three programmes and I am quite
>sure if you had listen to them, you would have come to the same conclusion.
>
>PEACE
>
>TOMBONG
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Howdy,
I am getting sick and disenchanted with people (from Jammeh's
camp) claiming that jammeh did not order the shootings as he was out of
the country at the time. That is perhaps the biggest "BS" I have heard in
a long time. However, giving him the benefit of the doubt (does not work
for me), then that only begs to ask the question: who is really running
the show in the GAMBIA? If Jammeh ordered the killings, which I am sure
he did, then he is a lunatic, deranged and psychotic. If he did not, then
he is not fit to lead a household let alone a country. Either way, he has
his days numbered. The government of the Gambia has failed the most
vulnerable people in the society: The young, specifically the students.
I just got done reading his pathetic address to the nation and it is very
repugnant and nauseating, as Jabou put it mildly. I am going to steal
this from Ousman Bojang, "Jammeh is very predictable". I only wonder ...
MAY ALLAH BLESS THE GAMBIA!
Dawda Singhateh
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there he"THE ALHAGIE" goes again starting his address with the name of
GOD.YAYA let me tell you something including you cronies.
most of us do know that the origin of government came from enslavement and
brutalizing each other,but it should not be so in the world we live in
now.the reason why we need a government in todays' world is for police,
justice, and national defense.
we need the police to protect us from the coercive powers of others and
to protect us from violence,but not the other way round."killing and using
force against the people.
the role of the judicial system is to protect our GOD given right from
the invasion of others including your stupid inefficient government,and the
national defense to protect our sovereignty,not to murder the civilians.
the people of the of the Gambia deserve something better,they don't
deserve a moron.the gambians deserve to have their freedom,their liberty,and
to pursue their goals,and to be happy.if your government was stick to these
roles,the tragedy that unfolded could have been avoided.a government that is
above the law,and things that it is invisible is a authoritarian government
and will do anything to stay in power,even if it means killing her
people.you jemus jammeh,you came to power illegally,you are
disgusting,inhumane,and barbaric and this includes anyone who support you
for his/herself interest.
tombong we are waiting for you,this is not the gambia that you can do
whatever you want.you and your like are a disgrace to the gambia,and you
paranoia,insecure and low self-esteem boss must and should go.
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>Subject: President Jammeh's Address to the Nation
>Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:48:43 PDT
>
>16TH APRIL, 2000
>
>STATEMENT TO THE NATION
>
>BY PRESIDENT JAMMEH ON THE STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATION
>OF 10TH & 11TH APRIL, 2000
>
>BISI - MILLAHI ARAHMANI
>
>FELLOW CITIZENS
>
>MY TASK TODAY IS INDEED A VERY DIFFICULT ONE, AS IT IS WITH THE DEEPEST
>FEELING EVER OF IMMENSE DISTRESS AND UTMOST GRIEF THAT I ADDRESS THE NATION
>ON THE UNFORTUNATE AND TRAGIC STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATIONS THAT OCCURED LAST
>MONDAY AND TUESDAY. ON THESE TWO DARK DAYS IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY, THIS
>NATION SUFFERED IRREPARABLE LOSS OF LIVES AND INCALCULABLE DAMAGE TO
>PROPERTIES. MOST REGRETABLE IS THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF THE 12 YOUNG PEOPLE
>AND THE LARGE NUMBER OF WOUNDED. I THEREFORE WISH TO TAKE THIS SAD OCCASION
>TO JOIN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE
>OF
>THE GAMBIA AND THAT OF MY FAMILY, TO EXTEND DEEPEST CONDOLENCES AND
>HEARTFELT SYMPATHY TO BEREAVED PARENTS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, FRIENDS,
>CLASSMATES AND LOVED ONES OF OUR DEPARTED CHILDREN. LET US ALL PRAY THAT
>THE
>ALMIGHT ALLAH RECEIVES THEIR SOULS AND GRANT THEM ETERNAL REST. LET US ALSO
>PRAY FOR THE SICK AND WOUNDED, TO RECEIVE ALLAH'S SPEEDY HEALING AND
>RECOVERY. WE MUST OFFER PRAYERS ALSO FOR THE BEREAVED AND THE NATION, TO BE
>COMFORTED, TO HAVE THE FAITH AND COURAGE TO SUSTAIN THEIR LOSS. AS WE
>REMEMBERE AND COMMIT THOSE WE LOVED DEARLY IN ALLAH'S CARE, I AM HEREBY
>DECLARING ONE WEEK OF MOURNING, DURING WHICH ALL FLAGS IN THE COUNTRY WILL
>BE FLOWN AT HALF MAST IN LOVING MEMORY AND RESPECT FOR THE DEAD
>
>FELLOW GAMBIANS
>
>I WANT US ALL TO PUT THIS SAD AND UNPRECEDENTED INCIDENT INTO ITS PROPER
>PERSPECTIVE, TO REFLECT ON AND INVESTIGATE INTO THE CAUSES AND TO DRAW
>USEFUL LESSONS FROM THE EXPERIENCE. WHILE I WAS IN CUBA ATTENDING THE G 77
>-
>SOUTH SUMMIT, I HAVE BEEN CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH MY GOVERNMENT ON THE
>EVOLUTION OF THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND. EVERYONE WILL AGREE THAT THE
>PRIMARY DUTY OF ANY GOVERNMENT IS TO ENSURE THAT PEACE AND STABILITY
>PREVAILS IN A COUNTRY, SAFEGUARD THE RIGHTS OF EVERYONE TO LIFE AND
>PROPERTY, AND GUANRANTEE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR. MY
>GOVERNMENT WILL THEREFORE CONDUCT A FULL INVESTIGATION INTO THE EVENTS OF
>THE 10TH AND 11TH APRIL 2000. IN THE INVESTIGATIONS, NO STONE WILL BE LEFT
>UNTURNED IN OUR SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH. CONCURRENTLY, A CORONER'S INQUEST
>WILL
>BE HELD ON THE CAUSE OF DEATH OF THE TWELVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR
>LIVES IN THIS UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT.
>
>IN THE DAYS THAT LIE AHEAD, I WILL BE COUNTING ON ALL GAMBIANS, RELIGIOUS
>LEADERS, LEADERS OF CONSCIENCE TO HELP BRING BACK THE PEACE AND STABILITY
>THAT HAS ENABLED US TO HELP NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES TO AVERT THE DANGERS OF
>INTERNAL CONFLICT AND STRIFE. WE WANT TO BUILD A SOCIETY WHOSE YOUTH WILL
>BE
>PROUD OF THE EDUCATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
>AVAILABLE TO THEM. THIS WILL ENABLE US TO BUILD ON THESE FOUNDATIONS WHICH
>WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THE GAMBIA A HAVEN OF PEACE AND STABILITY IN THE
>SUB-REGION AND AFRICA AT LARGE. THESE ARE CERTAINLY SOME OF THE ESSENTIAL
>PRE-CONDITIONS FOR ATTAINING OUR VISION 2020 OBJECTIVES.
>
>I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND PRAY THAT THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH
>CONTINUE
>TO SHOWER HIS PEACE AND BLESSING ON THE BEREAVED, THE WOUNDED, AND THE
>COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.
>
>ASSALAMU ALAIKUM WARAH MATULLAHI WABARA KATUHU
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Mr. Ndow,
Well, it may be just a coincidence.
Just yesterday at a Gambian meeting here in Stockholm, someone who was
present and active in those late 60s demonstrations assured me that the
name of the student who was deported to Senegal is Alassan Ben Sarr.
Perhaps you can confirm that?
Sidibeh
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Daddy Sang,
Just a reminder: The late Eku Mahoney was the Commander of the Riot Squad
then. He read his inaudible "riot act" but every stayed put and then All
Hell
broke loose. For most of us it more like a "flow". The "Agogo" season was
over and we were bored
At the fore-front were also people like Junkunda Daffeh, Saul and Charles
Jarra, Alassan Sarr, Bai-Mass Taal, Saga Taal and Momodou Sedat Jobe . Yes,
the very Dr. Saga Taal who is today the Secretary General of Jammeh and
Sedat-Jobe. In Aku the saying for these kind of people is: "Oya, fine boy
turn
makalo". It was Momodou Sedat Jobe who translated Senghore's speech in the
"Kent Street Vous" journal that caused all that uproar. Today, he is the
foreign secretary of one of the most despotic regimes.
Prince
Beola, thanks for the additional info, the demonstration you refer to
occurred
the next day near Quadrangle in from the Department of education,I was
working
at the Income Tax Office then. Eku Mahoney along with my causin Edu Gomez
were
the commanding officers in charge. Do you remember the name of the fellow
they
arrested that day?, I could only remember his last name Cham. After he was
arrested, they claimed that he was not born in the Gambia and that he should
be deported. Charles Jow(RIP) intervene with then minister of education I.M
Garba Jahumpha. Whatever became of that fellow do you know? He was in the
sixth form then.
Three years later, we were in Boston, Bai-Mass Taal, Matarr and Adi Njie and
I
remenising about it and how they made them march under the hot sun at Depot
as
part of their punishment especially for Bai-Mass and Pa Joof(laugh) In all
this nobody lost their life, Jammeh should take a lesson from that.
Daddy Sang
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kuts <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mr Saidy,
You might not know this but there was a similar
demonstration in 1971 in which all the schools in Banjul and environs
participitated. The police were unable to control us,they had to call for
help from the Field Force,who were able to control the situation after
several hours!!I can't remember any serious injuries ,there were certainly
no fatalities!! The "Deporians" were illitirate but they were definately
not
PHILISTINES!!
KUTS
I participated in that demonstration, it began opposit Gambia High School
and
it was staged to protest President Senghore's speech in which he accused
the
Gambia of causing Senegal's economic woes. Senghore was on a stste visit
to
the Gambia and the demonstration was lead by Crispin Grey Johnson, Koro
Sallah
and some members of the "Kent Street Vous" along with Lena Manga then on
holidays from the U.S; I was not arrested but my friend Pa Joof of fame
Soto
Koto Vous was; yes kuts your're right the field force were called in but
nobody got killed either. It seems to me though illiterate, the field
force
understood freedom of speech better than these "sheep in wool clothing"
i.e
thugs mascarading as soldiers. Tombong you might want to visit the achives
to
that demonstration, you might learn a thing or two about civil
disobediance
and how to deal with it.
Daddy Sang
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> hey Tombong,
> It is very sad that you are using this tragic accassion to tell us about
the
> "good things" that Jammeh did for the youths of the Gambia. What a
shame.
> I have a question that has been lingering in me since i read press
releases
> from the defence secretary. If the students had guns with life
ammunitions
> with them, how come there was no security personnel among the dead?
> God Bless and Peace Be Upon All.
> Alasana Bah
>
> >From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: UPDATE
> >Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:16:16 PDT
> >
> >Gambia-l,
> >
> >As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after which I
> >will
> >give my analysis of the whole situation.
> >
> >NUMBER OF DECEASED
> >
> >According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were received
at
> >around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96
> >patients
> >seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 from
> >Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have been
> >discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central
Division
> >area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
> >
> >The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported from
> >Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies were
> >identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one
unidentified
> >body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
> >
> >DECEASED REGISTERED
> >
> ># NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
> >
> >1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
> >2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
> >3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
> >4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
> >5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
> >6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
> >7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
> >8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding ---------------
> >9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
> >10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra Leonean
> >11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
> >12. Unidentified Teenager
> >
> >Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay's source, the bodies are being released as
> >relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there was no
> >order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be kept
until
> >the President's return. Ebrima's source also claimed that there are "14
> >confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could you
> >please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names of
the
> >remaining two death bodies.
> >
> >PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
> >
> >NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
> >
> >1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
> >2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
> >3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline Comprehensive
> >4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
> >5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
> >6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
> >7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
> >8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
> >9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
> >10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau Station
> >11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema Kunku)
> >12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
> >
> > New Jeshwang)
> >13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
> >14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline Comprehensive
> >15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
> >16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo Town
> >17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
> >18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
> >19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe
> >20. Sana Bojang Civilian New Jeshwang
> >21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High School
> >22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
> >23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
> >24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine's H. School
> >25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
> >26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
> >27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
> >30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
> >31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
> >
> >REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
> >
> >Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
> >Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
> >Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
> >Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
> >
> >TOTAL 128 Cases
> >
> >The above were treated and released.
> >
> >
> >PRESS RELEASE
> >
> >As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
> >constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competing,
> >principles:
> >
> >i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to
answer
> >for
> >it;
> >
> >ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair
> >hearing.
> >
> >The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later
convicted
> >if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
> >
> >The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the
Department
> >of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role outlined
> >above.
> >
> >In line with the Government's commitment to the principles of
transparency
> >and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must not
> >only
> >be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers under
> >section 11(1) of the Coroner's Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
> >simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an
inquest
> >be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the events
of
> >the 10th and 11th April 2000.
> >
> >The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not
an
> >offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
> >
> >As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be
filed
in
> >the course of next week.
> >
> >In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice system
is
> >itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
> >appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal
Procedure
> >Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends
of
> >justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers,
(both
> >at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of
the
> >alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
> >
> >The Attorney General's Chambers will provide logical support; but will
> >otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
> >
> >The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of
local
a
> >prosecutor.
> >
> >As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General's Chambers is
handicapped
by
> >the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
> >
> >
> >Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
> >Attorney General & Secretary of State
> >For Justice
> >
> >Attorney General's Chambers &
> >Department of State for Justice
> >Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
> >Banjul
> >
> >13 April, 2000
> >
> >
> >
> >Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take on
this
> >whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both
sides
of
> >the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
> >
> >April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The Gambia,
> >surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 - the KUKOI FIASCO. I
join
> >all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to the
> >families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad event
that
> >could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
> >
> >The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the
constitutional
> >right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there are
laws
> >and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from a
given
> >authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a permit
> >according to the authorities. The Department of State for the Interior
sent
> >a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses including
GRTS
> >claiming that they have received information on a potential strike
being
> >organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to seek
> >permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
> >demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of me,
so
I
> >am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a permit,
and
> >they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunday
April
> >9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of
States
> >and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU
Executive
> >to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since
the
> >President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the
> >Executive
> >from the GTTI to StateHouse.
> >
> >On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of State
for
> >the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and to
> >escort
> >them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It was
> >during
> >this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some GAMSU
> >Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various
reasons.
> >
> >While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were
negotiating,
> >some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into
GTTI.
> >The
> >Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell
broke
> >loose. I believe the security should and could have contained things
and
> >this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were
emanating
> >from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out numbered
the
> >police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI,
students
> >began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, Brikama
> >Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and
everything
> >within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the
> >majority
> >of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some non-students
> >seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot,
destroy
> >private and public properties, banks etc.
> >
> >The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place.
Soldiers
> >came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed,
> >prisoners
> >were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police and
the
> >armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and individuals,
> >mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fact
some
> >civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody.
> >
> >Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths and
> >injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about who
stated
> >the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sate
for
> >the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets.
The
> >Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event
will
> >verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is that
not
> >single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed
students
> >were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to do.
> >
> >The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank of
> >Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were
> >generally
> >done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own
ends.
A
> >lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this
whole
> >fiasco.
> >
> >Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with
> >their
> >phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their
action
> >has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a
> >phone
> >in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good
idea.
> >All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being
said
> >over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the
phone-in
> >programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the
security.
> >
> >The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went
beyond
> >their control when other non-students joined in. The security was ill
> >prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
> >
> >
> >The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the
> >handling
> >of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The
> >critics
> >could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more
for
> >Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to
> >Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by
> >providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds
around
> >the
> >country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them computers
for
> >their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van
> >(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own
telecentres
> >(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just
a
> >few
> >of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
> >University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to
power.
> >Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time in
the
> >history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is very
> >unfair.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >PEACE
> >
> >Tombong
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:03:41 +0300
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Brother Buharry,
I thank you for your sensible ideas to approaching complex situations like
this. If this is taking into consideration, we will soon come in terms to
solve this problem and act appropriately. Your peace is very rational and
have incentives to favour both sides with conflect. Our mothers and father
are living there but we are here.therefore we should try and work out
things rationally instead of radical approaches and other are doing.
we all are concern citizens and as well involve oneway or the other in
this brutal act, in a sense that, if your family is not a victim,can
happen that a friend or someone you know is. Gambia is so small with along
family chains. I am therefore appealing to the memebers of the forum to
think twice not selfishly to the benefit of our brothers and sisters
Fathers and Mothers.If we are aware of what an army is capable of doing
when in power,radicalism is not a favourable step towards the goal of
putting them back to barracks.It is only the innocent people who suffer
but the heads will survive at all cost. Thanks you again Mr Buharry for
putting this up to consideration.
Peace to the Gambia and Gambian.
__________________________________________________________________
EDI LK SIDIBEH NAAKANTIE 2C9
DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS & ADMINISTRATION 48320 KOTKA
KYMENLAAKSO POLYTECHNIQUE
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PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I think that we need to step back and take stock of our efforts and their results so far. I have reread the petition and I see that the government is making overtures regarding some of what is stated in it. Instead of blanket, reactionary dismissal of anything offered by the government or being blinded by emotions, I think we should devise strategies to analyse and come up with recommendations regarding how we can ensure the achievement of our goals while remaining firm. Examples of government overtures are:
>
> PETITION: - release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;
>
> Tombong has released the names of those killed and injured. To ensure that this is the total number, we should accept Tombong's challenge and encourage all who have missing relatives to report their names to an agreed upon person or news outlet. I think that Tombong should be thanked for the efforts in getting and publishing the names of the victims. He could have simply kept quiet just like the rest of the government.
>
> PETITION: - ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law without undue delay;
>
> ATTORNEY GENERAL's STATEMENT: In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice system is itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal Procedure Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends of justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers, (both at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of the
> alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
>
>
> Instead of dismissing the AG's offer, let us take him up on it. He has suggested that the Bar Association, deceased's families and concerned people outside can suggest names. Let us first ask him questions like how the selection procedure will take place, who will make the final selection, the criteria for making such a selection etc. We should begin work on locating a lawyer and try to co-ordinate our efforts with the Bar Association and the families of the deceased.
>
>
> PETITION: - launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances surrounding it;
>
> ATTORNEY GENERAL'S STATEMENT: I have invoked my powers under section 11(1) of the Coroner's Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an inquest be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the events of the 10th and 11th April 2000. The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not an offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
>
> What we can do here is to try to influence the make-up of the commission or try to ensure that it is independent. We should remain vigilant to counter any attempt to influence the commission. We can also insist that the students alone are not held responsible but that responsibility for the shootings is properly placed on those responsible. More suggestions on what we can do can be forthcoming.
>
> Maybe Tombong can be helpful in providing the names of students still under detention and provide us with the number of students charged and released on bail and the severity of the charges levelled against them.
>
> We should keep the pressure to ensure that the government sticks by what it has offered and to ensure that the rest of the petition items are respected. All the planned activities should be followed.
>
> At this point, I would like to suggest that we desist from using abusive language as has been proposed by others earlier. People have vented their frustrations and now should be the time for sober reflection and action. Continuing to indulge in abusive language will not help our cause and might have the negative impact of having people dismiss our seriousness. We have charted a course and should follow it to ensure that justice prevails but let us follow that course with dignity, firmness, vigilance and dedication. We still have a long way to go. Thanks.
>
> Buharry.
>
>
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Folks,
In the conclusion part of this briefing the 11 of May should have read 9 of
May instead, my apologies.
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Tombong,
what is going on at Brikama-ba and the so rounding area? I understand that two
people die and about 20 people were pick up by the police, could you give us some
explanation.
musa
Madiba Saidy wrote:
> Ebrima,
>
> Why do you want to wake up Tombong - a bloody ass licker - from his
> slumber? Please save us from his usual gibberish commentaries!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Madiba Saidy.
>
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
> > Tombong,
> > What's going on in The Gambia? Can you shed some light on these ongoing
> > alleged crimes? Ebrima Barry been killed by the law enforcement officers, and
> > recently, the alleged killings of some students and civilians by soldiers.
> > I'm concerned with these troubling behavior happening home.
> > EB(Ebrima Jarjue).
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Madiba Saidy wrote:
> Ebrima,
>
> Why do you want to wake up Tombong - a bloody ass licker - from his
> slumber? Please save us from his usual gibberish commentaries!!
>
> Regards,
>
> Madiba Saidy.
>
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
> > Tombong,
> > What's going on in The Gambia? Can you shed some light on these ongoing
> > alleged crimes? Ebrima Barry been killed by the law enforcement officers, and
> > recently, the alleged killings of some students and civilians by soldiers.
> > I'm concerned with these troubling behavior happening home.
> > EB(Ebrima Jarjue).
> >
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order to shoot at the students. If so, the remorse Yaya is showing in =
his address could earn him an OSCAR.=20
Yaya can fool some people all the time but...
Prince Coker
----- Original Message -----=20
From: TOMBONG SAIDY=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 11:48 PM
Subject: President Jammeh's Address to the Nation
16TH APRIL, 2000
STATEMENT TO THE NATION
BY PRESIDENT JAMMEH ON THE STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATION
OF 10TH & 11TH APRIL, 2000
BISI - MILLAHI ARAHMANI
FELLOW CITIZENS
MY TASK TODAY IS INDEED A VERY DIFFICULT ONE, AS IT IS WITH THE =
DEEPEST
FEELING EVER OF IMMENSE DISTRESS AND UTMOST GRIEF THAT I ADDRESS THE =
NATION
ON THE UNFORTUNATE AND TRAGIC STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATIONS THAT OCCURED =
LAST
MONDAY AND TUESDAY. ON THESE TWO DARK DAYS IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY, =
THIS
NATION SUFFERED IRREPARABLE LOSS OF LIVES AND INCALCULABLE DAMAGE TO
PROPERTIES. MOST REGRETABLE IS THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF THE 12 YOUNG =
PEOPLE
AND THE LARGE NUMBER OF WOUNDED. I THEREFORE WISH TO TAKE THIS SAD =
OCCASION
TO JOIN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT AND =
PEOPLE OF
THE GAMBIA AND THAT OF MY FAMILY, TO EXTEND DEEPEST CONDOLENCES AND
HEARTFELT SYMPATHY TO BEREAVED PARENTS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, FRIENDS,
CLASSMATES AND LOVED ONES OF OUR DEPARTED CHILDREN. LET US ALL PRAY =
THAT THE
ALMIGHT ALLAH RECEIVES THEIR SOULS AND GRANT THEM ETERNAL REST. LET US =
ALSO
PRAY FOR THE SICK AND WOUNDED, TO RECEIVE ALLAH'S SPEEDY HEALING AND
RECOVERY. WE MUST OFFER PRAYERS ALSO FOR THE BEREAVED AND THE NATION, =
TO BE
COMFORTED, TO HAVE THE FAITH AND COURAGE TO SUSTAIN THEIR LOSS. AS WE
REMEMBERE AND COMMIT THOSE WE LOVED DEARLY IN ALLAH'S CARE, I AM =
HEREBY
DECLARING ONE WEEK OF MOURNING, DURING WHICH ALL FLAGS IN THE COUNTRY =
WILL
BE FLOWN AT HALF MAST IN LOVING MEMORY AND RESPECT FOR THE DEAD
FELLOW GAMBIANS
I WANT US ALL TO PUT THIS SAD AND UNPRECEDENTED INCIDENT INTO ITS =
PROPER
PERSPECTIVE, TO REFLECT ON AND INVESTIGATE INTO THE CAUSES AND TO DRAW
USEFUL LESSONS FROM THE EXPERIENCE. WHILE I WAS IN CUBA ATTENDING THE =
G 77 -
SOUTH SUMMIT, I HAVE BEEN CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH MY GOVERNMENT ON THE
EVOLUTION OF THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND. EVERYONE WILL AGREE THAT THE
PRIMARY DUTY OF ANY GOVERNMENT IS TO ENSURE THAT PEACE AND STABILITY
PREVAILS IN A COUNTRY, SAFEGUARD THE RIGHTS OF EVERYONE TO LIFE AND
PROPERTY, AND GUANRANTEE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR. =
MY
GOVERNMENT WILL THEREFORE CONDUCT A FULL INVESTIGATION INTO THE EVENTS =
OF
THE 10TH AND 11TH APRIL 2000. IN THE INVESTIGATIONS, NO STONE WILL BE =
LEFT
UNTURNED IN OUR SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH. CONCURRENTLY, A CORONER'S =
INQUEST WILL
BE HELD ON THE CAUSE OF DEATH OF THE TWELVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO LOST =
THEIR
LIVES IN THIS UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT.
IN THE DAYS THAT LIE AHEAD, I WILL BE COUNTING ON ALL GAMBIANS, =
RELIGIOUS
LEADERS, LEADERS OF CONSCIENCE TO HELP BRING BACK THE PEACE AND =
STABILITY
THAT HAS ENABLED US TO HELP NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES TO AVERT THE =
DANGERS OF
INTERNAL CONFLICT AND STRIFE. WE WANT TO BUILD A SOCIETY WHOSE YOUTH =
WILL BE
PROUD OF THE EDUCATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN =
MADE
AVAILABLE TO THEM. THIS WILL ENABLE US TO BUILD ON THESE FOUNDATIONS =
WHICH
WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THE GAMBIA A HAVEN OF PEACE AND STABILITY IN THE
SUB-REGION AND AFRICA AT LARGE. THESE ARE CERTAINLY SOME OF THE =
ESSENTIAL
PRE-CONDITIONS FOR ATTAINING OUR VISION 2020 OBJECTIVES.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND PRAY THAT THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH =
CONTINUE
TO SHOWER HIS PEACE AND BLESSING ON THE BEREAVED, THE WOUNDED, AND THE
COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.
ASSALAMU ALAIKUM WARAH MATULLAHI WABARA KATUHU
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I thought the Vice President in =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yaya can fool some people all the time=20
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<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 16, 2000 =
11:48=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> President Jammeh's =
Address to=20
the Nation</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>16TH APRIL, 2000<BR><BR>STATEMENT TO THE =
NATION<BR><BR>BY=20
PRESIDENT JAMMEH ON THE STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATION<BR>OF 10TH & 11TH =
APRIL,=20
2000<BR><BR>BISI - MILLAHI ARAHMANI<BR><BR>FELLOW CITIZENS<BR><BR>MY =
TASK=20
TODAY IS INDEED A VERY DIFFICULT ONE, AS IT IS WITH THE =
DEEPEST<BR>FEELING=20
EVER OF IMMENSE DISTRESS AND UTMOST GRIEF THAT I ADDRESS THE =
NATION<BR>ON THE=20
UNFORTUNATE AND TRAGIC STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATIONS THAT OCCURED =
LAST<BR>MONDAY=20
AND TUESDAY. ON THESE TWO DARK DAYS IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY, =
THIS<BR>NATION=20
SUFFERED IRREPARABLE LOSS OF LIVES AND INCALCULABLE DAMAGE=20
TO<BR>PROPERTIES. MOST REGRETABLE IS THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF THE =
12 YOUNG=20
PEOPLE<BR>AND THE LARGE NUMBER OF WOUNDED. I THEREFORE WISH TO TAKE =
THIS SAD=20
OCCASION<BR>TO JOIN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, ON BEHALF OF THE =
GOVERNMENT AND=20
PEOPLE OF<BR>THE GAMBIA AND THAT OF MY FAMILY, TO EXTEND DEEPEST =
CONDOLENCES=20
AND<BR>HEARTFELT SYMPATHY TO BEREAVED PARENTS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES,=20
FRIENDS,<BR>CLASSMATES AND LOVED ONES OF OUR DEPARTED CHILDREN. LET US =
ALL=20
PRAY THAT THE<BR>ALMIGHT ALLAH RECEIVES THEIR SOULS AND GRANT THEM =
ETERNAL=20
REST. LET US ALSO<BR>PRAY FOR THE SICK AND WOUNDED, TO RECEIVE ALLAH'S =
SPEEDY=20
HEALING AND<BR>RECOVERY. WE MUST OFFER PRAYERS ALSO FOR THE BEREAVED =
AND THE=20
NATION, TO BE<BR>COMFORTED, TO HAVE THE FAITH AND COURAGE TO SUSTAIN =
THEIR=20
LOSS. AS WE<BR>REMEMBERE AND COMMIT THOSE WE LOVED DEARLY IN ALLAH'S =
CARE, I=20
AM HEREBY<BR>DECLARING ONE WEEK OF MOURNING, DURING WHICH ALL FLAGS IN =
THE=20
COUNTRY WILL<BR>BE FLOWN AT HALF MAST IN LOVING MEMORY AND RESPECT FOR =
THE=20
DEAD<BR><BR>FELLOW GAMBIANS<BR><BR>I WANT US ALL TO PUT THIS SAD AND=20
UNPRECEDENTED INCIDENT INTO ITS PROPER<BR>PERSPECTIVE, TO REFLECT ON =
AND=20
INVESTIGATE INTO THE CAUSES AND TO DRAW<BR>USEFUL LESSONS FROM THE =
EXPERIENCE.=20
WHILE I WAS IN CUBA ATTENDING THE G 77 -<BR>SOUTH SUMMIT, I HAVE BEEN=20
CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH MY GOVERNMENT ON THE<BR>EVOLUTION OF THE =
SITUATION ON=20
THE GROUND. EVERYONE WILL AGREE THAT THE<BR>PRIMARY DUTY OF ANY =
GOVERNMENT IS=20
TO ENSURE THAT PEACE AND STABILITY<BR>PREVAILS IN A COUNTRY, SAFEGUARD =
THE=20
RIGHTS OF EVERYONE TO LIFE AND<BR>PROPERTY, AND GUANRANTEE FREEDOM AND =
JUSTICE=20
WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR. MY<BR>GOVERNMENT WILL THEREFORE CONDUCT A FULL =
INVESTIGATION INTO THE EVENTS OF<BR>THE 10TH AND 11TH APRIL 2000. IN =
THE=20
INVESTIGATIONS, NO STONE WILL BE LEFT<BR>UNTURNED IN OUR SEARCH FOR =
THE TRUTH.=20
CONCURRENTLY, A CORONER'S INQUEST WILL<BR>BE HELD ON THE CAUSE OF =
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Gambia-L UK Subscribers,
fellow UK residents it has come to my attention late yesterday that word
is flying around that the demo date has been changed from 25 April to the 2nd
of May. Could Ndembos, Dave Manneh, Ziz or any other player for that matter
confirm this. May be the Jammeh disinformation service is already in our
midst!
during meetings I've had with Berkshire Gambians, I 've already informed
them of the 25th. April date and many of the discussions on the Internet and
the universal uprising against the Jammeh Fascism. it is prudent that we have
definite plans in store by Wednesday if we are gonna have the demo on the
25th of April so the word can reach all corners of the disparate Gambian
community. also those i have managed to reach, have shown their desire to
contribute both in cash and kind and are looking forward to contribute
whatever they can towards the funds being collected for Jammeh's victims. so
it is about time we arrange or finally iron out the remaining wrinkles that
are left with the bank account issue.
also Dave Manneh there is a bloke living in the outskirts of the
Portsmouth area who so dearly would love to be in touch with the rest of the
Portsmouth students/community. please any suggestions would help. and could
we hear both you and Ndembos' updates cos I'm made to understand that there
has been a big meeting in London yesterday.
Fellow UK subscribers lets pass the word and strike whilst the iron is still
hot. The decency and sense of belonging that our forebears worked so hard for
in the Gambia is being insidiously supplanted by a very vicious form of
Fascism. Fascism must be uprooted and not appeased!
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Gambia-L,
The unimaginable has happened in the Gambia, and Monday 10 April 2000 will,
without doubt, go down in the annals of Gambian history as a day to be
remembered - forever - for two reasons.
First, it was the day on which Gambian students, under the aegis of GAMSU,
woke up early in the morning and determined to do whatever it would take,
including giving their precious lives, to rid their country of tyranny and
repression.
Second – and more significantly – it was on this very day that the security
forces, under the instructions of their Commander-In-Chief, Yaya Jammeh, had
used live bullets on innocent students, to break up protesting students,
thus resulting in the killings of at least 14 people and more than 100
injured.
Just for the record, the students applied but were refused a permit for a
march organised to protest against the death of Ebrima Barry, a student who
was allegedly tortured by the Fire Service Personnel, and the reported rape
of a 13-year old by a Police officer.
Yes, Gambia-L, this was last straw: the ultimate crime had been committed by
the Jammeh regime on the 10 April 2000; and as the Commander-in-Chief of the
Security Forces, the buck rests upon Jammeh himself to answer to the deeds
and actions of the security forces.
The authorisation of the killing of defenceless students is the ultimate
crime to be perpetrated by the Jammeh regime and Jammeh himself must take
responsibility for what happened in the country last week.
The Jammeh regime already has a track record of extra judicial killings
with impunity, but I for one would never have thought that they would dare
slaughter innocent students daylight, or in the open. By the way, do you
want proofs that the Jammeh regime has a track record of extra judicial
killings?
Well, I'll refresh your minds with some facts: In November 1994, just four
months after the coup, several soldiers, including Lieutenants Barrow and
Saye etc, were killed by the regime for their alleged involvement in a coup
attempt.
What about Captain Sadibou Hydara who died in custody in June 1995, six
months after he was arrested together with Sana Sabally and accused of
attempting to kill Jammeh in order to seize power?
The Government had claimed that Captain Hydara's post mortem had concluded
that he had died as a result of a "long-standing high blood pressure" which
affected his kidney and lungs. But Hydara's family reacted by saying that as
far as they knew, Sadibou Hydara never had or even complained of high blood.
What about Ousman Koro Ceesay, the former Finance Minister who was found
dead in June 1995, in the burned-out wreckage of his Mercedes Benz?
Should we forget Yaya Drammeh, one of the alleged rebels who attacked the
Farafenni Military Camp in November 1996? Yaya Drammeh too died in custody
at the Mile 2 prisons in May 1997. Does the name Lt Almamo Manneh ring a
bell?
The Jammeh's thugs, it would be recalled, had executed Lt Manneh, in January
of this year, for his alleged involvement in a "foiled coup conspiracy". So
the list goes on and on!
And needless to say, all these extra judicial killings are contrary to the
Gambia’s obligation under the African Charter on Human and Peoples Rights
which the Gambia had ratified in June 1983. Article 4 of the African Charter
clearly states: "No one may be arbitrarily deprived of his right to life"...
In any case, from the cited cases, it is indeed fair to insist that the
Jammeh regime has/had a track record of extra judicial killings with
impunity and there is ample evidence to prove that Jammeh himself has been
sanctioning all these murders. If not, then why hasn't he taken action
against the culprits?
Extra-judicial killings, torture, imprisonment and harassment of critics and
opponents are therefore the hallmark of the Mr Jammeh's regime. Hence, it is
clear that the massacre of these young lives last week, had been an
extension to the culture of the violation of both civic and human rights
Gambians have been encountering since Mr Jammeh came to power.
In fact, the soldiers have been made to believe that any action designed to
appease Jammeh – no matter how foul it is – is legitimate. This is why, in
the wake of the student killings, Mr Jammeh, since he is the commander in
chief of the forces, owes us not just an explanation, but a resignation from
public office as well.
Since its inception to power in July 1994, the Jammeh regime has been
exposed for what it truly is – a tyranny. In a state of tyranny, however, a
people must rally not around principles, but behind a common and immediate
objective which – in effect – is the removal of the tyrant.
As we mourn the deaths of our brothers and sisters who gave their precious
lives in order to rid the country of oppression, we should now focus – both
at home and abroad – on how to strategize and develop a mechanism to uproot
this gory regime.
Certainly, a regime that unleashes its weapons upon its children without any
thought but bravado, denials and triumphalism, is a regime that does deserve
to be destroyed, or it else it shall continue to cause more destruction of
precious lives.
Our preservation as a society, therefore, rests upon our organisation and
desire to uproot such a tyranny. The Jammeh regime has been both corrupt and
brutal and it is fair to say that it lost its cliché as a regime "with a
difference" before it even celebrated 100 days in office!
Clearly, this is a regime that does not contemplate, but only sustains
itself as a sanguinary regime. My fellow Gambians, a despot has taken over
power in our motherland, and we must not yield to his cowardly and dastardly
threats. If Jammeh was the brave man he portrays himself to be, then why did
he sneak into Banjul early Sunday morning (4 am) from his visit to Cuba? Why
didn't they announce the time and date he was to return to Banjul?
We must be ready – as a people – to show solidarity to the militancy of the
students. We must show leadership and foresight to derail this regime. It
is, therefore, the duty of all opponents of this regime, particularly the
political forces, to try and forge a tactical alliance and oust this
nefarious and bloodthirsty regime.
Yes, it is not going to be easy to unseat Jammeh, knowingly fully well that
he is still determined to cling onto power, and will be out to destroy all
forces which seek to dislodge him from his position of privilege; but all
the same, it is not an insurmountable task. It is doable!
This regime must go! It is over allergic to the dictates of democracy and in
fact decided from the onset, that there will be no debate, or at best, a
one-sided debate with a pre-determined winner – the Government.
Anyway, the events of 10 and 11 April that we have witnessed, are new
phenomena. The defiance and the scale of it clearly suggest that a people at
the end of their tether are willing to sacrifice the most precious thing of
all, that is life itself (to end oppression).
Those youths who died or got wounded are martyrs and our heroes respectively
that we should be proud of! They have made a statement by their actions; and
the statement is clearly a political one – no more repression in the Gambia
was the statement they made judging by their actions.
Why do I say so? You may ask. Well, because their main targets of
vandalization or attack were military or police institutions, indicating
that they were challenging the oppressor and his instruments of control and
torture.
Their anger/rage was directed at the very heart of the oppressor. Now, the
responsibility rests upon all of us, particularly the politicians, to seize
upon the momentum generated to continually (and vigorously for that matter)
expose a chronology of events of the regime’s hypocrisy and tyranny.
History has therefore confronted us with this challenge and if we fail to
live up to it, it would be to our own detriment. This regime's lack of
civility and their arrogance are already manifested in the regime's
continued harassment and torturing of innocent civilians and now even the
students are not spared.
However, times have changed and the good thing is that the youths clearly
have become more enlightened and therefore would not accept oppression any
more. The political groupings – at home and abroad - must now organise
themselves more effectively to enhance the potential unleashed.
This regime is a discredited one, and based on their record, we shouldn't
wait for them to account for anything, because they are simply a Government
of denials and prevarication. All they do is LIE and LIE to the brink of
their teeth. And worst of all, the regime is also parasitic, unproductive,
pernicious and totally devoid of social commitment or vision!
We have already had enough of their lies and trumped-up stories, but their
true colour – as a regime engulfed in lies and garblings – exposed itself
more convincingly, in the wake of the demonstrations, having regard to the
conflicting accounts they were giving us of what happened on 10 April.
We should therefore continue to endeavour – without fear or funk - to get
rid of such an iniquitous regime that is necropolis, mean, niggardly and
brutal. We are now at a historical juncture when we should both preserve our
Nation and destroy the tyrant before our beautiful country slides into
mayhem. And let us remember that they say under a dictatorship, a nation
ceases to exist; all that remains is a fiefdom.
However, having said that, I hope all of us, especially Jammeh, would learn
from these events that oppression shall never silence an enlightened people.
The regime must therefore learn to accept basic fundamental rights in this
day and age since oppressors, in the final analysis, will always be the
losers.
Tyrants may kill and maim, but they shall never have the last word – the
people will! People power is a reality that frightens despots. The Gambian
people must now understand that power rests in their hands and as a result,
they are the ones who should decide the destiny of their nation. If we
choose complacency, we may be taken for granted, but if we choose to live in
dignity at a price, we can only be the winners.
These young heroes have shown us the way, and we must never back down or let
them down. They demonstrated a fact known for ages in Political Science:
that People Power is potent and irrepressible.
Wherever people are willing to die en masse in refusing to be oppressed,
tyrants have to give way.
It was a terrible thing that happened in our country last week, and a lot of
people will be wondering how we have come to this, especially given the fact
that Gambians have always wished for peace and at times even bent over
backwards just to avoid confrontation with the authorities.
But persistent and continuous injustice, corruption, and poverty over
decades have eroded their patience. And it is in fact encouraging observing
that the younger generation – in the face of tyranny and corruption – is the
least tolerant, thus indicating an evolving or a changing culture. This is a
healthy sign!
Meanwhile, even the optimists have finally given up hope of seeing a
prosperous Gambia under Jammeh. They know that the Jammeh regime, as I said
in a previous commentary, is a bubble about to bust and in fact Jammeh
himself knows this for a fact. He has only managed to maintain a grip on to
power, thanks to the Army, but if he thinks or believes that the army will
always be there for him, then he needs some lessons in History.
Right now, his message to the soldiers is very clear: "Kill to keep me
(Jammeh) in power and in turn you too will be safe." Anyway, let the
security forces continue to follow Mr Jammeh’s orders and keep
terrorising the people.
Because once it becomes clearer to the people that no one is safe to say or
do anything against Mr Jammeh or his interest, then the people will soon
realise that this is no way to live; that it is better to die a free man or
woman than to live a slavish hypocritical, existence, consigned to poverty
and lack of opportunity.
This government is unbearable and deserves to go, especially following the
terrible and despicable crimes its security forces had committed against
innocent students on Monday. Jammeh has clearly betrayed the Nation’s trust
and we must not tolerate him any more, because it will only get worse!
In short, Mr Jammeh's 5 years rule has only resulted in rampant corruption
and a lack of probity in public life; a psyche of militarism that has
developed; a loss of respect for the Rule of Law; and a loss of sense of
belonging, self respect and dignity.
As for Vice President Isatou Njie-Saidy, a sister I admired when she was at
the Women's Bureau, I would also join my colleagues at The Point Newspaper
in calling upon her to resign, in the wake of the events of 10 April. (Deyda
Hydara, I commend your editorial in which you asked both Ousman Badgie and
Mrs Njie-Saidy to resign).
I must remind everybody that the call to high public office is a challenging
assignment, which call for decisiveness, integrity, personal discipline,
honesty and selflessness.
It was the duty of Isatou Njie-Saidy to check and balance the actions of her
brothers in uniform, but in fact, she approved of the shootings even though
she is a mother and one of the kids could have been hers. So she has to go
as well! Mrs Njie-Saidy, no hard feeling; I am just speaking my mind.
Finally, Gambia-L, I ask this question: Am I the only one who has not seen
statements from the Gambia Bar Association, Teachers' Union, Supreme Islamic
Council, Christian Council (if there is one), Trade Unions CONDEMNING these
killings outright or in unequivocal terms?
Ebrima Ceesay
Birmingham, UK.
PS:
Gambia-L,
I did promise to do a comprehensive report on the events of 10 April. But
because some Institutions here also asked me to do a "detailed and reliable"
report for them on what happened, I thought I should take my time and gather
as much facts as possible.
Anyway, whenever I am ready with it, I'll send it to the L, even if it is
already stale.
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Hi people
I have finally finished the work on the online e-mail petition form and it
is fully functional now. You can find it at http://www.gambia.f2s.com under
the Petitions section. This is a fully automated form that will send your
petition letter to over 60 organizations just by the click of a button. So
as you can see there is no need to send me any messages to add your name to
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All those who sent me a message to add their names to the petition letter,
please go to http://www.gambia.f2s.com/Petition/petitions.html and
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I had to change the petition letter a little bit (from third to first
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place in
The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security forces
opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing 14 people,
including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. These deaths
occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest against the torture
and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, and
the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a police officer.
Hundreds of students have since been arrested and distraught parents do not
know whether their children are among the dead or imprisoned.
I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and your
organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to
immediately:
Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of force
against civilians;
Release all the students currently under detention;
Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their
relatives for proper burial;
Launch an independent inquiry into the shootings and circumstances
surrounding it;
Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to the
provisions of the law;
Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum restraint towards
students protesting the deaths of their friends and schoolmates;
Ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of
Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law without undue
delay;
Ensure that all security personnel and the Gambian government abide by the
constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international human
rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations General Assembly
on December 10th., 1948.
While awaiting your kind cooperation and support in this most urgent of
matters, I take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your
organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of human
rights around the world.
Sincerely,
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This is what the petition letter will look like when u send it to the
various organizations.
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Subject: Killing of Gambian Student protesters
Date: April 17, 2000 6:18:19 AM EDT
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Dear Sir/Madam,
I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place in
The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security forces
opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing 14 people,
including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. These deaths
occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest against the torture
and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, and
the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a police officer.
Hundreds of students have since been arrested and distraught parents do not
know whether their children are among the dead or imprisoned.
I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and your
organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to
immediately:
Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of force
against civilians;
Release all the students currently under detention;
Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their
relatives for proper burial;
Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances
surrounding it;
Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to the
provisions of the law;
Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum restraint towards
students protesting the deaths of their friends and schoolmates;
Ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of
Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law without undue
delay;
Ensure that all security personnel and the Gambian government abide by the
constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international human
rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations General Assembly
on December 10th., 1948.
While awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of
matters, I take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your
organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of human
rights around the world.
Sincerely,
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Hamjatta,
I have read in the voiceout the change of date to 2 May. I have not yet
receive any notification from Malick and others. However, I read that the
change was deem necessary to allow for the distribution of flyers during
Youssour Ndour's Show in london. I think things would be better if it was
held during the holidays rather than term time, since it allows more
students to participate fully.
Ziz.
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> Gambia-L UK Subscribers,
> fellow UK residents it has come to my attention late yesterday that
word
> is flying around that the demo date has been changed from 25 April to the
2nd
> of May. Could Ndembos, Dave Manneh, Ziz or any other player for that
matter
> confirm this. May be the Jammeh disinformation service is already in our
> midst!
> during meetings I've had with Berkshire Gambians, I 've already
informed
> them of the 25th. April date and many of the discussions on the Internet
and
> the universal uprising against the Jammeh Fascism. it is prudent that we
have
> definite plans in store by Wednesday if we are gonna have the demo on the
> 25th of April so the word can reach all corners of the disparate Gambian
> community. also those i have managed to reach, have shown their desire to
> contribute both in cash and kind and are looking forward to contribute
> whatever they can towards the funds being collected for Jammeh's victims.
so
> it is about time we arrange or finally iron out the remaining wrinkles
that
> are left with the bank account issue.
> also Dave Manneh there is a bloke living in the outskirts of the
> Portsmouth area who so dearly would love to be in touch with the rest of
the
> Portsmouth students/community. please any suggestions would help. and
could
> we hear both you and Ndembos' updates cos I'm made to understand that
there
> has been a big meeting in London yesterday.
> Fellow UK subscribers lets pass the word and strike whilst the iron is
still
> hot. The decency and sense of belonging that our forebears worked so hard
for
> in the Gambia is being insidiously supplanted by a very vicious form of
> Fascism. Fascism must be uprooted and not appeased!
> Good Morning
> Hamjatta Kanteh
>
> hkanteh
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Self grandiloquent and an untoward activities of this president might not
only see him jumping from the frying pan into the fire but,might as well
cause our beloved nation her sovereignty. Meddling in the private affairs of
our more harden warring neighbours will only invoke more chios and
imprecations for the gambia and, that is something we can hardly interjoin.
It beats the living imagination in me, how any concerned head of state will
not rush back home( especially, when one accorded oneself a waiting private,
chartered, and ill-afforded AEROPLANE..) when propagated atrocities occurred
in ur country whilst away by troglodytes administrators/servants of ur
regime. Does this man really care to what happened or is it merely the limit
of his maxims on reality? Is he in hiding? Or is it the fear of reprimand
from senegal and Guinea Bissau more pertinent than what is functionaries
wrought on our innocent children.
Kittos
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Saidy,
Thank you for a comperehesive report concerning this tradegic incident that
took place in the Gambia these recent weeks.It is very sad and disapointing,
the whole Gambian community atlarge are mourning.I join the entire GL family
in sendind my condolences to the family and friends of the brothers and
sisters who lost their lives.
Indeed, its a great lost! at a instance, Gambia lost 12 Students! in a
brutal-battle field liked between students and security officials,
incredible! You are right, the credibility of the criminal justice system in
the Gambia is on trail, instead its questionable! What kind of monsters are
you habouring in this once peaceful and friendly nation? what is the cause
of these ample problems from social unrest, political and not to mention
economical haphazards our dear country is facing? where is our country
heading to? who is to be blame? what are your plans? The questions are many!
However, when I read your coments concerning this incident, brother, my
heart teared to pieces, I felt pain and deeply sadened. You categorilly seem
to sympathise with the event but canditly, without hesitating pronounced
your outmost concern for the damage done to state property and in defence
for the security officers.
Yes, in a democratic state there are constitutional rigths that govern the
right to demonstrate! and that was what the students demonstrated! Is there
any constitutional right for security officers to shot at students with life
bullets? In my opinion that is a high degree of profesional misconduct. What
was the duty of the security officers under such circumstances? do we
assumed that the situation was under the control of the students? who were
on the defence? I wonder what you mean by "however it went beyond their
control when other non-students joined in".Beyond whose control? You must
have meant the security officers, otherwise I would say you are forging a
statement in defence of these bunch of bandits who killed defenceless young
bloods in a situation they had a just cost to. Your statement even gave more
credit to the secutrity officers, that they were ill prepared and
overwhelmed and concequently over reacted. Literary you mean, it was the
fault of the students that the whole situation went into chaos.
The President, did that, this and what not! that is not what we are
interested of at this moment! that is his duty, that is why we are paying
him that large sum of money and all the other preveleges that the
"ordinary" cirizen doesn't have.
The all kinds of claims and counter claims who started the shooting is quite
clair.There is no doubt in that, in case you are confuse about the whole
scenario.Its logical, otherwise, like how you tried to paint the students as
being at fault, it has appeared again that they could be among the
shooters.That is why you claimed that criminals, non-students and foreigners
had joned the demonstrations when the police stations were being
destroyed,they took arms and ammunitions. You also justified that the police
carried very few arms.In other words the demonstrators were the ones who had
most of the guns, which literary would mean that,it was not only the
security officers who were shooting.My God , we are not idiots! so you want
to say that the security officers were at defence, if you are permitted!
Well my concern is, let justice prevail! its through justice that such
unprecented acts can be eradicated.Look at the system thoroughly, there is
something going wrong!
Yahya
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>Gambia-l,
>
>As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after which I
>will
>give my analysis of the whole situation.
>
>NUMBER OF DECEASED
>
>According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were received at
>around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96
>patients
>seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 from
>Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have been
>discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central Division
>area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
>
>The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported from
>Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies were
>identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one unidentified
>body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
>
>DECEASED REGISTERED
>
># NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
>
>1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
>2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
>3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
>4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
>5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
>6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
>7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
>8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding ---------------
>9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
>10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra Leonean
>11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
>12. Unidentified Teenager
>
>Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay’s source, the bodies are being released as
>relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there was no
>order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be kept until
>the President’s return. Ebrima’s source also claimed that there are “14
>confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could you
>please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names of the
>remaining two death bodies.
>
>PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
>
>NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
>
>1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
>2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
>3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline Comprehensive
>4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
>5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
>6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
>7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
>8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
>9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
>10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau Station
>11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema Kunku)
>12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
>
> New Jeshwang)
>13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
>14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline Comprehensive
>15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
>16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo Town
>17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
>18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
>19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jobe
>20. Sana Bojang Civilian New Jeshwang
>21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High School
>22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
>23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
>24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine’s H. School
>25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
>26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
>27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
>28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
>29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
>30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
>31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
>
>REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
>
>Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
>Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
>Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
>Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
>
>TOTAL 128 Cases
>
>The above were treated and released.
>
>
>PRESS RELEASE
>
>As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
>constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competing,
>principles:
>
>i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to answer
>for
>it;
>
>ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair
>hearing.
>
>The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later convicted
>if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
>
>The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the Department
>of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role outlined
>above.
>
>In line with the Government’s commitment to the principles of transparency
>and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must not
>only
>be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers under
>section 11(1) of the Coroner’s Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
>simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an inquest
>be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the events of
>the 10th and 11th April 2000.
>
>The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or not an
>offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
>
>As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be filed in
>the course of next week.
>
>In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice system is
>itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
>appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal Procedure
>Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friends of
>justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers, (both
>at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution of the
>alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
>
>The Attorney General’s Chambers will provide logical support; but will
>otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
>
>The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of local a
>prosecutor.
>
>As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General’s Chambers is handicapped by
>the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
>
>
>Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
>Attorney General & Secretary of State
>For Justice
>
>Attorney General’s Chambers &
>Department of State for Justice
>Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
>Banjul
>
>13 April, 2000
>
>
>
>Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take on this
>whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both sides of
>the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
>
>April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The Gambia,
>surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 – the KUKOI FIASCO. I join
>all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to the
>families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad event that
>could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
>
>The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the constitutional
>right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there are laws
>and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from a given
>authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a permit
>according to the authorities. The Department of State for the Interior sent
>a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses including GRTS
>claiming that they have received information on a potential strike being
>organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to seek
>permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
>demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of me, so I
>am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a permit, and
>they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunday April
>9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of States
>and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU Executive
>to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since the
>President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the
>Executive
>from the GTTI to StateHouse.
>
>On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of State for
>the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and to
>escort
>them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It was
>during
>this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some GAMSU
>Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various reasons.
>
>While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were negotiating,
>some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into GTTI.
>The
>Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell broke
>loose. I believe the security should and could have contained things and
>this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were emanating
>from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out numbered the
>police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI, students
>began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, Brikama
>Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and everything
>within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the
>majority
>of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some non-students
>seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot, destroy
>private and public properties, banks etc.
>
>The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place. Soldiers
>came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed,
>prisoners
>were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police and the
>armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and individuals,
>mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fact some
>civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody.
>
>Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths and
>injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about who stated
>the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sate for
>the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets. The
>Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event will
>verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is that not
>single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed students
>were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to do.
>
>The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank of
>Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were
>generally
>done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own ends. A
>lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this whole
>fiasco.
>
>Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation with
>their
>phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their action
>has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having a
>phone
>in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good idea.
>All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were being said
>over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the phone-in
>programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the security.
>
>The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went beyond
>their control when other non-students joined in. The security was ill
>prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
>
>
>The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the
>handling
>of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The
>critics
>could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more for
>Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to
>Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by
>providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds around
>the
>country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them computers for
>their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van
>(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own telecentres
>(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just a
>few
>of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
>University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to power.
>Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time in the
>history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is very
>unfair.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>PEACE
>
>Tombong
>
>
>
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we will be having a meeting on wednesday the 19.4.00, 20:00HRs, in helsinki
at Global restaurant, Kamppi, and any fund/amount raised will be forthcoming
ur way.
Also, are there any universally agreed slogans proposed for the impending
demonstration(s)?. If so, could someone kindly post them on the L.
Buharry, could u please provide the updated version of the petition if that
is possible cuz we were working on the bases of the former one u've
stipulated.
Kittos
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Ebrima,
I agree with you wholeheartedly on your thoughts you shared with the
community. The school children's lives must not go in vain. Fascism must be
uprooted and not appeased! the least we could do for these martyred kids is
to realise their dreams of a Gambia where freedom, participatory democracy
and social justice covers/affects every nook and crevice of the society.
FASCISM MUST BE UPROOTED AND NOT BE APPEASED!
Hamjatta
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As Mr. Bah mentioned earlier about the impressive rally the Gambian New York
resident staged on the issue of Jammeh excessive use of power, and his
continued insult to our
intelligence by covering it up with religious literate and development.
The meeting was attended by Gambians, supporters of Gambia, friends of
Gambia from the tri-state area and the Afro-American community. The Theme of
the meeting is the Restoration of democracy in the Gambia. The common
criminal Jammeh's government.
Gambians spoke wholeheartedly about their distress with the current
regime and its various human rights abuses, the abuse of power and its power
base. The one thing we all agreed on is that we must continue to fight this
regime by any means necessary without the use of force. This objective will
be conducted by doing the following..
1. Demonstrating in front on the UN building and other organizations that
do business with Gambia.
2. Letter writing drive to organizations, interest groups and individuals
3. Fundraising campaign
4. Meetings, focus groups and wrap sessions
5. Radio and TV appearances
The first demonstration will held in front of the UN building in New York on
May 2, 2000. Any Gambia that can come in and support us out here must do so.
We need full participation. We want to send a message to Gambia that we do
not condone this type of barbaric government. We do not accept governing by
fear and intimidation. We do not accept abuse of power. The demonstration
will be at 7am sharp.
"We will not be free until every Gambian has their freedom" We must
simultaneously pursue all the objectives being offered to from New York and
Washington, DC. Then we must look into a consolidated movement whose
principle objective will be to form a coalition for the restoration of
democracy in the Gambia. There are many satellite Gambian groups emerging
from different areas of the globe. We must not limit the struggle to only
cover the student massacre; we must forge an alliance for the ultimately
taking over the parliament and subsequently the presidency.
The only way that we can stop this abyss is by removing the Jammeh
government. We must do this through a democratic process. Peace for our
people all the way revealing all iota of truth.
Keep the struggle on. Keep fighting for peace.
Thank You.
Matarr Sajaw.
Keep pressing on.
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Gambia-L,
I am sending these extracts below, as usual, from one of my sources.
Hamjatta, I got a call from Malick Kah in London last night and he had
informed me that the planned demonstration for those of us in the UK will
now take place at the Gambia High Commission in London, on May 2, at 11 am,
and not today, as originally intended.
They had a friutful meeting yesterday, he added, but I was unable to attend
it. However, I was told that some Gambia L memebers were there. The meeting
also appointed Malick Kah, James Bahoum and myself as spokespersons. But you
were right in your earlier posting, by saying that the demonstration is now
slated for May 2, 2000 at 11am.
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Ebrima,
The under-currents are still there despite the calmness on the surface. In
fact, yesterday, in and around Mansa Konko, the town people there resisted
officers trying to arrest school children.
They threatened to burn the whole town down if the police dare arrest their
children which resulted in their (Police) withdrawal without a single child
being taken into custody.
It appears that the people of LRD are also ready to defend their rights as
citizens. Karamba Touray's version of events on Jammeh arrival, which
article is in fact being photocopied and distributed here in our offices, is
the truth.
The president arrived early sunday morning around 02:00-3:00 as narrated by
Mr Touray. In fact, our mutual diplomat friend checked with the
International Civil Aviation Authority to get the manifest of aircraft
movements in Havana for the departure times of Mugabe's aircraft and that of
the president Jammeh.
The arrival time of Mugabe in Harare is known since he gave an airport press
conference yesterday morning on the Zimbabwe crisis. Please check with the
BBC as to the time of arrival of Mugabe in Harare and also with your press
friends who covered the G-77 meeting.
It is very easy to confirm the departure times. This way, you can
judge whether president Jammeh's pilot "gained time" which in our own
estimation would be around three-four hours from the suspected departure
time from Havana. The truth is that the president had to come earlier and
unannounced because they are all panicked and they are also aware that
things are not under control as yet.
The news at 13:00 hrs yesterday mentioned for the first time since the
events, the international condemnations of the events 10 April, including
statements from the EU, Turkey, some eastern European countries. The
decision to read the comdemnation on the news did not come as a surprise to
most of us anyway, considering the pressure being exerted from all quarters,
locally and internationally, on the Govt.
And while the entire population anxiously awaited the president's speech,
Sedat Jobe had announced his own news conference which, I learnt from some
members of the press, that they will not attend. They want to hear from the
president, and not Dr. Jobe. By the way, did you see President Jammeh thrash
statement on the events of 10 April? Thank God, I didn't have to write it.
By the way, today's Independent newpaper is very good. Andrew Jarju's
interview is also good, including Demda Jawo's piece. It should be posted on
the net later today. Be on the look out for it.
And try to get the full paper for your archives. I can send it to you. I
have just finished reading it. The pressure must continue to be applied on
them.
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Following the death of 12 people and the destruction of public and =
private properties on Monday, April 10, the government invited =
representatives of foreign missions on a conducted tour of the sites of =
destruction and those wounded in the fighting whose are admitted at the =
RVH.Our diplomatic correspondent, Mercy Eze, this weekend, talked to =
some diplomats.=20
John Perrott, British High Commissioner: I was very distressed indeed to =
see what has happened and to see so many people that have died and =
others injured.It is too early to assess the background but we will =
continue to observe and monitor the event very closely.=20
Ibrahim Morikeh Fofana, Sierra Leone High Commissioner:The vice =
president took us, the diplomats, round to identify places that have =
been destroyed through the student demonstration.I express my sympathy =
on behalf of the diplomatic corps for those who have been killed and =
injured. We are in sympathy with the affected families for the loss of =
lives and with the government for the loss of property.Meanwhile, we are =
sitting down, watching to see how best the government could manage the =
situation.=20
George Haley, US Ambassador:Maintains his statement published in last =
week's Tuesday edition of Daily Observer.=20
Ayuba Jacob Ngaka, Nigeria High Commissioner:As Nigeria's representative =
in The Gambia, I advise the government, parents and all others concerned =
to treat this incident as a normal issue.There should be objectivity in =
the assessment to forestall future occurrence. With exception of those =
sitting for mock examination, the government should not be in a hurry to =
recall the students to schools until causes surrounding the event are =
identified.It is really unfortunate that this kind of destruction has =
been committed but justice has to be tempered with mercy.=20
=20
Stephen Yip, Canada:The youths were unlucky to have got involved in =
something they could not control. They were taken advantage of by people =
with ulterior motives. Now, they are being blamed for all the =
destruction incurred.The students are our most important and precious =
crops that The Gambia will ever harvest. We just have to do our best so =
that the best crop will not be damaged.=20
George Marc Andr=E9, European Union:Apart from the families of the =
victims, we should ask ourselves, what next in terms of respect for =
human rights.There is a need for dialogue for the incident not to =
reoccur. Destruction such as the ones we have witnessed are steps =
backwards from all the development that has been registered so far.=20
We are waiting for the government to see what line of action they are =
going to take.=20
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could not=20
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Now, they=20
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most=20
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have to=20
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victims, we=20
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:58:20 -0400
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We were unable to deliver this letter to the Ambassador on Friday, the 14th
of April for delivery to Butcher of Kanilai. No one answered the door.
Soffie
The President,
The Republic of the Gambia
President's Office
Banjul, The Gambia
13 April, 2000
We have no courteous salutation to address you by in this letter. Our
intent is to express our utmost disgust at you and your gang of senseless
mercenary thugs who murdered our gallant and young students.
Like always, it does take some people a little time to figure out "false
messiahs" but now the vast majority of Gambians are aware of your game and
of your history. Some people say you have been a disappointment, but those
of us who know better, say you have been the worse embarrassment to the
Gambian people - MURDERER!!
At this stage of the fight, we have ceased to list your lies, deceit and
treachery. All of these have become part of our consciousness in the last
six years. Now, all our efforts are directed towards a massive mobilization
of Gambians internally and externally to move on over you and all that you
represent.
We have heard your trite explanation and attacks on the defenseless and
peaceful students seeking redress for their fellow student, Ebrima Barry who
was literally tortured bringing about his death as well as the rape of a 13
year old school girl by one of your goons in uniform. To add insult to
injury, your vice president Isatou Njie Saidy, an equally pathological liar,
now shifts the blame onto the students as the first to have opened fire.
How dare you, the worse criminal in the history of the Gambia, how dare you
call these defenseless students criminals?
You can concoct any number of lies but nothing can save your impotent regime
from this savage act against these students. The actions of these students
are only a dress rehearsal, the finishing blow will not be held back.
We glorify all the actions of the students; we vow not to let them die in
vain; we urge a thousand more students to step forward and take the place of
their fallen comrades and assert the bond of continuity. The audacity of
these students will forever live in our memory. Furthermore, the audacity
of these students also gives us the gratifying assurance of a bright future
for Gambia, a future in which young people will take their rightful place in
the genuine development of our society.
You can bring out all the armory at your disposal but the people's will
always prevails. But, be well assured that, we are equally poised for the
final offensive against your neo-colonial stooge government and the
mercenaries you keep to protect you and your ill-gotten blood tainted
wealth. We hold you responsible for the safety of all the students under
arrest. We demand the immediate release of all the detainees and that you,
from your stolen wealth, pay reparations to all the families of the dead and
injured.
Finally, we have our eyes on the most priced possession of human beings,
FREEDOM!. Come what may, FREEDOM must come.
Yours
Most DISGUSTED
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:46:28 -0400
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ck out this week's edition of The Africa Sun Times; headline: MASSACRE IN
GAMBIA [with Soweto student's riot in background]. Editor of paper and the
United Africa Congress were of great help to the gambian community by
allowing us to use their office space for the emergency meeting organized in
reaction to the massacre of Gambian school children.
Please send them a note/call of appreciation at the following:
THE AFRICA SUN TIMES
299 BROADWAY, SUITE 716
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PHONE: [212] 791-0777
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AGITATE, EDUCATE AND ORGANIZE.
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Gambia L,
I think I smell a conspiracy here for Mr. Tombong to suggest that GAMSU was
"practically formed" by Yaya.You are dead wrong about this as Saidykhan
rightly put it.I was part of the team that made the historic transition from
NUGS to GAMSU. This was in 1991 when no one ever dream about a coup in the
Gambia.
Mr Saidy, please do not try to be a spokesman for a regime that has no
regard whatsoever for human life.I am sure if a close relative of you were
among the fallen heroes you would have a different opinion. This issue is
beyond politics and I think you should know that better but we do understand
that you cant speak your mind about this issue because you don't want to
lose your job.If you cannot speak the truth don't defend the indefensible!
Mori Kebba Jammeh
Mori
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> Mr. Saidy,
>
> I was totally confused when you mentioned in your report that "the
President
> practically formed GAMSU." Did you mean to say that he gave the
organization
> a lot of technical assistance? Because Yaya was a soldier when GAMSU
actually
> came into existence. The formation of Gambia Students' Union took a whole
> weekend in 1991 at Gambia College, Brikama Campus. This student body
replaced
> the National Union of Gambian Students (NUGS). It was not an easy
transition.
>
> However, GAMSU should have never allowed to be fueled/fed by Yaya or his
> government. They could have secured funds from other sources, for example,
> NGOs, philanthropists and union dues (contributions by schools across the
> country). Also, there are many Gambian organizations in Europe and North
> America that will never be reluctant to accord the organization any
> financial/technical assistance if they so request. If you live under
> somebody's roof, you have a limited say in that house. However, one may
also
> contend that the students were wise enough to accept Yaya's offer, yet
will
> never tolerate to be puppets. Where did the cost of the van and computers
> come from anyway? This should be an independent student organization. No
> attempts should be made to politicize it. In a country like The Gambia,
where
> the vast majority of the populace are politically uneducated, student
> organizations are very vital to literally fight for freedom and justice as
> being evident in the past month and a half. So they should always
safeguard
> and maintain their neutrality.
>
> S. S. Saidykhan
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MEMORANDUM
WE ARE HEREBY INFORMING THE ENTIRE CONCERNED GAMBIANS THAT THE DATE
SCHEDULED FOR THE PROPOSED DEMONSTRATION (25th/04/00) IS NOW BEING POSTPONED
TO THE +++ 2nd MAY 2000 FOR THE FOLLOWING APPRECIABLE REASONS:
1. COLLECTIVE DECISION OF OTHER CONCERNED GAMBIANS AND SYMPATHISERS FROM
VARIOUS CITIES IN U.K.
2. IN A BID TO MAKE IT A COINCIDENCE WITH THAT OF OUR BROTHERS IN AMERICAN.
APOLOGIES FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE THIS MAY CAUSE. CHANGES TO THE PERMIT HAS
BEEN EFFECTED.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOME THE DATE
THANKS.
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:38:55 EDT
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Gibril,
The fact that Gambians are peace loving people, has been amply
demonstrated in the global response that has accentuated their utter disgust,
and uncompromising distaste and revulsion, to the unprecedented carnage that
has blemish our nation. What has happened in Sierra Leone and other places,
will never be allowed to take place in our beloved country. What I saw in
that video cassette recording the bestiality of people without a conscience,
with raw animal instincts about the Sierra Leone massacres, pior to our
attendance of this New York gathering, should more so resolve the
determination of every Gambian, that this kind of indiscrimate disregard to
the sanctity of human life will never be tolerated.
The events of April 10 and 11, has brought to the Gambian consciousness
that we are a nation with a conscience. We will ever remain true to our
conscience. This is why those who have misguidedly visited this infamy on
themselves, cannot bear to accept responsibility for their actions, and will
ever bury their heads in shame. From now on, every power that be, must think
twice before soaking our soil with the blood of a precious Gambian life.
Gambians will now be ever vigilant and treasure each and every Gambian life
with the blood of the nation .
The momentum that has been generated from this tragedy, will ever keep the
flames of our democratic yearnings burning. Gambians must take possession of
the power, the ultimate will, that should guide their destiny. It is not in
the hands of any one individual. Power should not be absolute; it should not
be consolidated neither monopolized. It must and should be contested. This is
what has been demonstrated by these so very young students who lost their
lives for believing in themselves, and which consequently is breaking the
political apathy of many a Gambian. The future is promising.
Rene
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Salieu Jallow,
Can you please sign you whole name after your postings. Your soccer postings
are been referred to me( Sal Barry).
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FELLOW GAMBIANS COULD YOU PLEASE JOIN US IN DISTRIBUTING THIS MEMO TO ANY
CONCERNED GAMBIAN AND SYMPATHISERS WHO MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE GAMBIA-L.
YOUR COOPERATION IS HIGHLY SOLICITED:
MEMORANDUM
TO: ALL GAMBIANS AND SYMPATHISERS
FROM: THE GAMBIAN COMMUNITY IN U.K
DATE: TUESDAY 2nd MAY 2000.
SUBJECT: THE FORTHCOMING DEMONSTRATION BY THE GAMBIAN COMMUNITY
THE GAMBIAN COMMUNITY IN UNITED KINGDOM INTEND TO ORGANISE A DEMONSTRATION
TO EXPRESS OUR FEELING OF DISGUST AT THE APPALLING TRAGIC KILLINGS OF
INNOCENT SCHOOL CHILDREN IN THE GAMBIA ON THE 10th AND 11th OF APRIL 2000.
THIS EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE ON THE 2nd OF MAY 2000 AT HIGH STREET KENSINGTON
AT THE PLACE OF THE GAMBIA HIGH COMMISSION.
TIME: 11:00am prompt.
EVERY BODY IS KINDLY WELCOME TO SHOW SOLIDARITY
GREATEST THANKS FOR YOUR KIND COOPERATION
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Gambia-L,
It would be recalled that Lower River Division used to be a very strong hold
for the
defunct PPP, a party that ruled The Gambia for about 30 years. However, since
taking over power by force, people of this area have continuously and
consistently condemned and rejected Yaya and his AFPRC/APRC policies. The
electorate of Jarra West constituency, which includes Mansakonko, chose to
elect Kemeseng Jammeh of the UDP against Baba Jobe, the APR candidate in the
1996 parliamentary elections. The same Baba Joe was the Chairman of the
defunct July 22 Movement, a group of illiterates and bandits that almost out
powered or replaced all law enforcement agencies in the country. Regardless
of all the circumstances that surrounded Baba and his thugs, people of Jarra
could never be intimidated.
Moreover, people of Si-Kunda, the home village of Kemeseng, refused to answer
to or pay their taxes to the APRC's hand-picked Alkalo at the expense of
serving a jail term. They were later on acquitted by an Appeal's court. A
lesson that is however learned here is a constitutional violation by the
APRC. This violation is also evident in the chieftaincy of the same electoral
district, where Yaya chose to nominate instead of going through a
constitutional recommended electoral process. However, people of this area
are never bored with their defiance.
Very recently, as has just being reported by Ebrima Ceesay, they stood by
their children against any police arrests or intimidation for exercising
their constitutional rights by taking up the streets for what they considered
as a slow pace in dispensing justice in the cases of Ebrima Barry and Binta.
So there are lessons that Gambians can learn from the people of LRD:
consistent resistance to Yaya and the APRC policies; vote against all APRC
candidates in the Presidential, Parliamentary and Local Government elections;
mass mobilization and civil disobedience.
Power To The People!
S. S. Saykhan
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This is a reply I received from the petitions we have been sending from the
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>Your message has been made available for the Council of Europe staff.
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> > Subject: Killing of Gambian Student protesters
> >
> > This letter protesting the senseless killing of innocent students and
> > civilians was submitted by
> > Yankuba Njie ([log in to unmask]) on Monday, April 17, 2000 at 10:18:19
> >
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> >
> > Country: Gambia
> >
> > Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
> >
> > Dear Sir/Madam,
> >
> > I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place
>in
> > The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security
>forces
> > opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing 14
> > people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist.
>These
> > deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest against
>the
> > torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service
> > personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, by
>a
> > police officer. Hundreds of students have since been arrested and
> > distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the dead
> > or imprisoned.
> >
> > I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and
>your
> > organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to
> > immediately:
> >
> > Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of force
> > against civilians;
> >
> > Release all the students currently under detention;
> >
> > Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their
> > relatives for proper burial;
> >
> > Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances
> > surrounding it;
> >
> > Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force
> > resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to
>the
> > provisions of the law;
> >
> > Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum restraint
>towards
> > students protesting the deaths of their friends and schoolmates;
> >
> > Ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the
>rape
> > of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law without
> > undue delay;
> >
> > Ensure that all security personnel and the Gambian government abide by
>the
> > constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international human
> > rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human
>Rights,
> > which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations General
> > Assembly on December 10th., 1948.
> >
> > While awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of
> > matters, I take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your
> > organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of
>human
> > rights around the world.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Yankuba Njie
> >
> >
> >
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Pope:
Great Job on the petition and website!
Abdoulaye
Pope Pope wrote:
>
> Hi people
> I have finally finished the work on the online e-mail petition form and it
> is fully functional now. You can find it at http://www.gambia.f2s.com under
> the Petitions section. This is a fully automated form that will send your
> petition letter to over 60 organizations just by the click of a button. So
> as you can see there is no need to send me any messages to add your name to
> the petiton letter. Just go ahead to the website and send it with the
> default petition letter or customize it to your liking.
>
> All those who sent me a message to add their names to the petition letter,
> please go to http://www.gambia.f2s.com/Petition/petitions.html and
> personally send the petition letter.
>
> I had to change the petition letter a little bit (from third to first
> person). See below. if further changes need to be made, just let me know and
> I'll change it on the website.
>
> And finally I do apologize, cause I had promised to have the site ready I
> think it was two days ago. But after u visit the site, am sure you'll
> appreciate the amount of work that went into it. Thanks all, especially
> Jabou
>
> Pope
> YN
>
> TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
>
> Dear Sir/Madam,
>
> I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place in
> The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security forces
> opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing 14 people,
> including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. These deaths
> occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest against the torture
> and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, and
> the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a police officer.
> Hundreds of students have since been arrested and distraught parents do not
> know whether their children are among the dead or imprisoned.
>
> I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and your
> organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to
> immediately:
>
> Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of force
> against civilians;
>
> Release all the students currently under detention;
>
> Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their
> relatives for proper burial;
>
> Launch an independent inquiry into the shootings and circumstances
> surrounding it;
>
> Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force
> resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to the
> provisions of the law;
>
> Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum restraint towards
> students protesting the deaths of their friends and schoolmates;
>
> Ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of
> Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law without undue
> delay;
>
> Ensure that all security personnel and the Gambian government abide by the
> constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international human
> rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
> which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations General Assembly
> on December 10th., 1948.
> While awaiting your kind cooperation and support in this most urgent of
> matters, I take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your
> organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of human
> rights around the world.
>
> Sincerely,
>
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Greetings,
I am not sure where you folks are located but here in Seattle the
organization Gambiahelp is involved with just such a project. Its
director is currently in the Gambia, but i am sure she will contact you
when she returns. Thanks, Ylva H.
On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Katim S. Touray wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> FYI.
>
> Katim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: s. wallang
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 7:17 PM
> Subject: Meidcal Supplies
>
>
> Hello friends:
>
> We're wondering if anyone knows of any agencies/organizations who can help with
> sending medical supplies and medicine back home. We have acquired many boxes and
> are looking for a reliable way to get things back home where they are really
> needed. We're about to embark on a search for resources but thought we would
> consult with this list first to see if anyone has specific leads. In adition, if
> anyone is sending things home themselves and would like to include a box of
> medical supplies we do have quite a few we can give you. Just let us know....
> Thanks!
>
> God's BEST to everyone
>
> Lucy & Sebastian
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Katim:
From my perspective this is great news. Keep up the struggle and your
efforts.
Abdoulaye
No justice, no peace!
> "Katim S. Touray" wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I have some good news to share. Some people might think it bad news,
> depending on their perspective, and where they stand on recent
> developments in The Gambia.
>
> This morning (Sunday, April 16), I attended a talk on the Death
> Penalty given by US Senator Russell Feingold, a Democrat from
> Wisconsin. Sen. Feingold is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations
> Committee, and the Ranking Member of that Committee's Africa
> Sub-Committee:
>
> http://www.senate.gov/~foreign/subcommittees.html#africanaffairs
>
> As it happens, I interviewed him this past January on my call-in
> program "A Public Affair" (APA) which I have been a volunteer host and
> producer of for over two years now on our community radio station,
> WORT FM:
>
> http://www.netphoria.com/wort
>
> My program with Sen. Feingold focused on his 10-nation tour of Africa,
> along with the US Ambassador to the United Nations, Richard
> Holbrooke. The Senator is particularly interested in African affairs
> in general, and human rights issues in particular. For this reason, I
> thought his presentation today would be a great opportunity for me to
> meet him in person, and talk to him about last weeks killings in The
> Gambia, and what we are trying to do about it.
>
> As you can imagine, there were a few people who wanted to talk to the
> Senator after his presentation, but I was able to have a few minutes
> with him. I introduced myself to him, and mentioned my interview with
> him on APA. We talked briefly about recent developments in Africa,
> thus paving the way for me to introduce the topic of last weeks
> killings back home. I gave him a brief overview of the killings, and
> events that lead to them, in addition to a synopsis of other issues
> relevant to assessing the Jammeh government. I told him that Gambians
> all over the world are mobilizing and responding to last weeks
> senseless killings and that we will be needing help from people like
> him.
>
> The Sen. asked me to talk some more to his aide (who was present) with
> a view toward scheduling a meeting with his office to discuss matters
> more. I gave his aide a little more detailed overview of the issues I
> raised with the Senator, and told him that I will be sending him more
> details by e-mail to bring him abreast of developments in The Gambia.
> I also told him that I will include the URL to the Gambia-L archives
> in the e-mail that I will be sending him for him to be able to follow
> the debate, and get a sense of the feeling of outrage that many of us
> have expressed.
>
> Senator Feingold's aide told me that he will forward the e-mail I send
> him to the person responsible for African affairs at the Senator's
> Washington, DC office. We should hopefully be able to schedule an
> interview with the official in DC, and at that point, we'll need to
> have some people on the ground in DC to go meet with officials at
> Senator Feingold's Office. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking of
> Karamba Touray and Latjor Ndow (since they are in the vicinity) but
> this by no means implies that we should not consider other people to
> go speak on our behalf. So this might be a good time to start
> thinking about people we should talk to about going to talk to Senator
> Feingold's office.
>
> Still on the issue of reaching out to different organizations and
> officials to solicit their support and help, I'd like to say that I
> would also be contacting Sunni Khalid, the Communication's Director of
> the National Summit on Africa. They have been working very hard at
> bringing Africa to the forefront in the US national agenda, and
> recently concluded a highly successful National Summit on Africa. I
> believe Dr. Amadou Janneh was a member of the Tennessee delegation,
> and can probably tell you more about what transpired at the Summit.
> For your information, you can visit their Web site at:
> http://www.africasummit.org/
>
> Again, as luck would have it, I interviewed Sunni just about a few
> weeks ago on my APA program on WORT, and we talked about the National
> Summit on Africa, and the recommendations and plan of action that came
> out of it. I will be sending Sunni an e-mail to solicit their help
> ensuring that the Jammeh government is brought to an end, as
> peacefully, and as soon as possible. The e-mail I'll be sending Sunni
> would be along the lines of the one I'll be sending Senator Feingold's
> office, but would place a special emphasis that the gross acts of
> violence and corruption committed, or alleged to have been committed
> by the Jammeh government will make it incredibly difficult for them to
> work toward increasing Africa's credibility in the eyes of American
> citizens. Simply put, unless the likes of President Jammeh stop
> digging the hole that the National Summit on Africa, and similar
> organizations are trying to dig us out of, we'll never get out of the
> hole.
>
> In regards preparing writing e-mail messages to Sen. Feingold's
> office, and to Sunni Khalid, I would appreciate it if people can help
> with information that can be included in the e-mails. In particular,
> I would like the e-mails to be formatted as follows:
>
> 1. Background - a brief overview of The Gambia, and short
> history of the Jammeh government
> 2. Human Rights under the Jammeh government (the US State Depts.
> report would come in handy here)
> 3. Economic Management (or mis-management; take your pick) under
> Jammeh's government - I am especially interested in the current state
> of the Gambian economy compared to when Jammeh came to power. What's
> our balance of payments situation, our currencies exchange rate,
> inflation, unemployment figures, etc. A list of key economic
> indicators would be really helpful
> 4. Unresolved allegations of corruption against the Jammeh
> government: The money from Taiwan, what happened to the money that
> recovered from the Ebou Jallow thing, and returned to the government?;
> the Nigeria oil deal, and any others.
> 5. A list of all incidents that have resulted in loss of
> life during Jammeh's rule, the number of people killed, as well as the
> number of people killed in each incident, the government's
> explanation, and other views different from the government's.
> 6. A list of actions requested from parties interested in helping
> bring a peaceful end to the Jammeh government. I would suggest the
> following:
> a. That all official financial assistance to The Gambia be
> suspended, until all pending allegations of corruption are resolved
> b. All those detained in the aftermath of the student riots, and
> killings, and indeed any political prisoners the government may hold
> in prison be immediately released, or brought to court
> c. Help isolate the Jammeh government by refusing it's
> top-ranking officials an audience unless genuine efforts are made to
> address the issues above, or unless the meeting is for the purpose of
> discussing the above issues
>
> The above are off the top of my head, and I'm sure many of you will
> have others you can add to it, or would like to improve it some more.
> I should also say that we can use the format above as a template for
> developing the freegambia.org Web site, or whatever site we finally
> agree on. In this regard, Dr. Amadou Janneh and others have
> volunteered to help with developing content for the site, and I would
> like to suggest that all those interested in helping pick a topic from
> the list above and do some research on it.
>
> Also, could you indicate whether you would like to lead research on
> the topic, in the event more than 1 person volunteers to research a
> topic. And I cannot emphasize the importance of getting our facts
> straight. We cannot afford to send e-mails with factual errors, and
> conjecture to people we want to help. No matter how upset you are
> with the Jammeh government, please, please, let's stick to the facts.
>
> For your information, I would like send out the e-mails by Friday,
> April 21. Please let me know if that's an unrealistic target given
> the work that might need to be done to research the facts. And by the
> way, I would like to appeal to Gambian newspapers to dig into their
> archives for information that might be helpful if included in the
> e-mails I'll be sending out.
>
> May I also mention that I would like forward the Press Release put out
> by the Gambia Press Union (GPU), and forwarded to the list by Abdul
> Aziz Drammeh, to my Freelance Journalists mailing list hosted at
> Topica:
>
> http://www.topica.com/lists/freelance-journalists/
>
> I have been running the list for over 2 years now, and it presently
> has about 440 subscribers. I'd appreciate it if someone can send me a
> contact e-mail address for the GPU so I can included in my forwarded
> message to the Freelance Journalists list.
>
> Please feel free to write to me directly at [log in to unmask] if you
> have any questions, or need any more information. Needless to say,
> there are other issues such as getting a list of different Gambian
> organizations working on human rights and democracy issues, and the
> like. Would someone volunteer to collect a list of organizations and
> their contacts so we can decide on how best to proceed with the
> business of an umbrella organization to work with?
>
> I guess that's about it. Best wishes.
>
> Katim
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Guys, please,please,please, this forum is solely becoming tombong's gig. He
understands how sick and tired we are of his boss and the system back home,
therefore appoints himself as the honorary hounddog/talking-head for yahya
jammeh and his regime. Please, let's stop responding to slimy comments and
keep our eyes and ears focus on the ball/prize [whatever], instead as Dr.
saine puts it: YAHYA MUST GO.....NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE [NOT THE TYPE OF PEACE
UNCLE TOMBOY SAIDY IS TRYING TO HOODWINK US WITH]
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Guys, don't give a hoot about those NIA infiltrators amongst us, as we need
their meesenger or direct-line service to kaninglai. We had the same problem
in new york yesterday. while conducting our meeting, some recalcitrant
elements were busy faxing all our literature to Yahya Jammeh...thanks for the
freebe service. The strategy to use with these rabble rousers, is that,
before you start your meeetings, ask them to turn on their recording devices
or take notes of the events.
YAHYA MUST GO
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A very good job Pope. I will suggest that we post the list of the victims of
this tragedy and if possible their pictures at a later date.
Malanding
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> Pope:
>
> Great Job on the petition and website!
>
> Abdoulaye
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Dear Abdulaye,
thank you very much for sending me the abstract vision 2020. I received it
these days and read it immediately. In general I share your view. I would
like to aply some other theories for some parts, but more details later. I
am very limited in time as I have to prepare a lot for my current semester
and exam.
Did you ever read "Michal Porter, The Competitive Advantage of Nations"? I
think it is a great work and gives a lot food for thought.
I see that these days other topics prevail but we have to keep track with
our goal to make the Gambia a better place to live.
Kind Regards
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Hi folks,
I received this mail from one of the e-mail recipients of the petition letter.
Perhaps a new strategy has to be considered. The distribution of the flyers at
the first of May (international workers day) celebrations all over the world.
Momodou Camara
On 17 Apr 00, at 10:14, Catherine Hampton [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Freedom2surf -- someone has put the webmaster address for the
> Human Rights Web, which I maintain, on a mailing list for a
> protest. This has resulted in my getting eighteen identical
> email messages regarding this case, under different names and
> ostensibly from different email addresses. :( The emails are
> attached, and if you look at the headers, each one of them was
> sent from your site, not from the sites in the email addresses
> in the From: lines.
>
> I suspect this was done through a CGI script on a web page,
> since several emails have no name in the From: line whatsoever.
>
> These emails were sent to most of the valid addresses at
> Amnesty International, a number of other addresses belonging
> to other human rights organizations, and contact addresses
> at newspapers around the world. All eighteen =IDENTICAL=
> messages were sent to all of these addresses.
>
> I am one person, not in any way affiliated with the Gambian
> government, and maintain one Web site about human rights. One
> email is more than sufficient to make me aware of this situation.
> What this protest has done is spam my mailbox. That wasn't
> intelligent -- the protesters have probably done their cause
> considerable harm, although (from what I know about Gambia)
> their cause may be quite worthwhile.
>
> Please determine what happened here and take the necessary
> steps to stop it. Thank you!
>
> Ebone -- I'm ccing this to you for your information, although
> I suspect this was a badly planned and executed protest by some
> customers of freedom2surf rather than anything intentionally
> abusive.
>
> Those of you who participated in this protest -- it isn't wise
> to use a web form protest that automatically forwards a form
> letter to email addresses, at least not if you don't intend to
> harrass people. While I can see doing this to officials in
> Gambia, it is NOT in your best interests or the best interests
> of your cause to abuse the Internet in this fashion.
>
> Thank you!
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Momodou Camara wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I received this mail from one of the e-mail recipients of the petition letter.
>
> Perhaps a new strategy has to be considered.
Momodou,
The original idea was to append names to the petition and have it sent to
all concerned agencies. I remember appending mine, Buharry and
Abdoulaye's. That should carry more weight than sending individual
petitions.... What happened to that idea is beyond me. Well, I guess we'll
learn from it.
Madiba.
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It was not the understanding that every List member should send the same =
mail to a recipient. This could glut their mailbox and that is not the =
intention of the list. I thought the form was used only for people to =
add their names to it, and only one copy will to an organisation.=20
This method could be seen as an abuse of the internet by some =
organisation as this lady's letter shows. So, please let us stop sending =
the petitions until a less offensive way is found.
Prince Coker
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Catherine Hampton=20
To: [log in to unmask] ; [log in to unmask] ; =
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Cc: Catherine Hampton=20
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 7:14 PM
Subject: "Killing of Gambian Student protest" Spam/Mailbomb
Freedom2surf -- someone has put the webmaster address for the=20
Human Rights Web, which I maintain, on a mailing list for a=20
protest. This has resulted in my getting eighteen identical
email messages regarding this case, under different names and
ostensibly from different email addresses. :( The emails are
attached, and if you look at the headers, each one of them was
sent from your site, not from the sites in the email addresses
in the From: lines.
I suspect this was done through a CGI script on a web page,=20
since several emails have no name in the From: line whatsoever.
These emails were sent to most of the valid addresses at
Amnesty International, a number of other addresses belonging
to other human rights organizations, and contact addresses
at newspapers around the world. All eighteen =3DIDENTICAL=3D
messages were sent to all of these addresses. =20
I am one person, not in any way affiliated with the Gambian=20
government, and maintain one Web site about human rights. One
email is more than sufficient to make me aware of this situation.
What this protest has done is spam my mailbox. That wasn't=20
intelligent -- the protesters have probably done their cause
considerable harm, although (from what I know about Gambia)
their cause may be quite worthwhile.=20
Please determine what happened here and take the necessary
steps to stop it. Thank you!
Ebone -- I'm ccing this to you for your information, although
I suspect this was a badly planned and executed protest by some
customers of freedom2surf rather than anything intentionally
abusive.
Those of you who participated in this protest -- it isn't wise
to use a web form protest that automatically forwards a form
letter to email addresses, at least not if you don't intend to
harrass people. While I can see doing this to officials in=20
Gambia, it is NOT in your best interests or the best interests
of your cause to abuse the Internet in this fashion.
Thank you!
=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D
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Comments: Dear Sir/Madam,=20
I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place =
in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security =
forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing =
14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest =
against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire =
Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
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I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:=20
Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;
=20
Release all the students currently under detention;=20
=20
Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances =
surrounding it;=20
Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force =
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
the provisions of the law;
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Ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the =
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without undue delay;
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the constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international =
human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent =
of matters, I take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of =
human rights around the world.=20
Sincerely,=20
Alieu NJie
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I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
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Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;
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Release all the students currently under detention;=20
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Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their =
relatives for proper burial;=20
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human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
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=20
Dear Sir/Madam,=20
I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place =
in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security =
forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing =
14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest =
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Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
=20
I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:=20
Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;
=20
Release all the students currently under detention;=20
=20
Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their =
relatives for proper burial;=20
Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances =
surrounding it;=20
Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force =
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
the provisions of the law;
Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
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Ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the =
rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law =
without undue delay;
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the constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international =
human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent =
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organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of =
human rights around the world.=20
Sincerely,=20
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=20
Dear Sir/Madam,=20
I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place =
in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security =
forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing =
14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest =
against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire =
Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
=20
I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:=20
Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;
=20
Release all the students currently under detention;=20
=20
Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their =
relatives for proper burial;=20
Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances =
surrounding it;=20
Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force =
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
the provisions of the law;
Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
towards students protesting the deaths of their friends and schoolmates;
Ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the =
rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law =
without undue delay;
Ensure that all security personnel and the Gambian government abide by =
the constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international =
human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent =
of matters, I take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of =
human rights around the world.=20
Sincerely,=20
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I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place =
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14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
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forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing =
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Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
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Release all the students currently under detention;=20
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Subject: Killing of Gambian Student protesters
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Dear Sir/Madam,=20
I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place =
in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security =
forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing =
14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest =
against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire =
Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
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I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:=20
Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;
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Release all the students currently under detention;=20
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relatives for proper burial;=20
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human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
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organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of =
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Dear Sir/Madam,=20
I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place =
in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security =
forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing =
14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest =
against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire =
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Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
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I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:=20
Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;
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Release all the students currently under detention;=20
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Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their =
relatives for proper burial;=20
Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances =
surrounding it;=20
Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force =
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
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Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
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Ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the =
rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law =
without undue delay;
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the constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international =
human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent =
of matters, I take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of =
human rights around the world.=20
Sincerely,=20
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Dear Sir/Madam,=20
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in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security =
forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing =
14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest =
against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire =
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Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
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among the dead or imprisoned.
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I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:=20
Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;
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Release all the students currently under detention;=20
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Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their =
relatives for proper burial;=20
Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances =
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Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force =
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
the provisions of the law;
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rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law =
without undue delay;
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the constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international =
human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent =
of matters, I take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of =
human rights around the world.=20
Sincerely,=20
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Dear Sir/Madam,=20
I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place =
in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security =
forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing =
14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest =
against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire =
Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
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I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:=20
Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;
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Release all the students currently under detention;=20
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Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their =
relatives for proper burial;=20
Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances =
surrounding it;=20
Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force =
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
the provisions of the law;
Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
towards students protesting the deaths of their friends and schoolmates;
Ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the =
rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law =
without undue delay;
Ensure that all security personnel and the Gambian government abide by =
the constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international =
human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent =
of matters, I take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of =
human rights around the world.=20
Sincerely,=20
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Dear Sir/Madam,=20
I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place =
in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security =
forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing =
14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest =
against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire =
Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
=20
I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:=20
Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;
=20
Release all the students currently under detention;=20
=20
Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their =
relatives for proper burial;=20
Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances =
surrounding it;=20
Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force =
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
the provisions of the law;
Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
towards students protesting the deaths of their friends and schoolmates;
Ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the =
rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law =
without undue delay;
Ensure that all security personnel and the Gambian government abide by =
the constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international =
human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent =
of matters, I take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your =
organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of =
human rights around the world.=20
Sincerely,=20
Pakaramo
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14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
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immediately:=20
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Release all the students currently under detention;=20
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without undue delay;
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human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
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the constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international =
human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
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Dear Sir/Madam,=20
I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place =
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forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing =
14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
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I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
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Release all the students currently under detention;=20
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rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law =
without undue delay;
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Dear Sir/Madam,=20
I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place =
in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security =
forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing =
14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. =
These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest =
against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire =
Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta =
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their children are =
among the dead or imprisoned.
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I am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
your organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:=20
Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use of =
force against civilians;
=20
Release all the students currently under detention;=20
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Release the names of those killed and release their bodies to their =
relatives for proper burial;=20
Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances =
surrounding it;=20
Ensure that all security personnel found to have used excessive force =
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
the provisions of the law;
Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum restraint =
towards students protesting the deaths of their friends and schoolmates;
Ensure that those responsible for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the =
rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law =
without undue delay;
Ensure that all security personnel and the Gambian government abide by =
the constitution of The Republic of The Gambia and the international =
human rights standards enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human =
Rights, which was adopted without opposition by the United Nations =
General Assembly on December 10th., 1948.=20
While awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent =
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organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It was not the understanding that every =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Prince Coker</FONT></DIV>
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[log in to unmask]>Catherine Hampton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A=20
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[log in to unmask]>Catherine Hampton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 17, 2000 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> "Killing of Gambian =
Student=20
protest" Spam/Mailbomb</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Freedom2surf -- someone has put the webmaster address =
for the=20
<BR>Human Rights Web, which I maintain, on a mailing list for a=20
<BR>protest. This has resulted in my getting eighteen =
identical<BR>email=20
messages regarding this case, under different names and<BR>ostensibly =
from=20
different email addresses. :( The emails are<BR>attached, and if =
you=20
look at the headers, each one of them was<BR>sent from your site, not =
from the=20
sites in the email addresses<BR>in the From: lines.<BR><BR>I suspect =
this was=20
done through a CGI script on a web page, <BR>since several emails have =
no name=20
in the From: line whatsoever.<BR><BR>These emails were sent to most of =
the=20
valid addresses at<BR>Amnesty International, a number of other =
addresses=20
belonging<BR>to other human rights organizations, and contact =
addresses<BR>at=20
newspapers around the world. All eighteen =
=3DIDENTICAL=3D<BR>messages=20
were sent to all of these addresses. <BR><BR>I am one person, =
not in any=20
way affiliated with the Gambian <BR>government, and maintain one Web =
site=20
about human rights. One<BR>email is more than sufficient to make =
me=20
aware of this situation.<BR>What this protest has done is spam my=20
mailbox. That wasn't <BR>intelligent -- the protesters have =
probably=20
done their cause<BR>considerable harm, although (from what I know =
about=20
Gambia)<BR>their cause may be quite worthwhile. <BR><BR>Please =
determine what=20
happened here and take the necessary<BR>steps to stop it. Thank=20
you!<BR><BR>Ebone -- I'm ccing this to you for your information, =
although<BR>I=20
suspect this was a badly planned and executed protest by =
some<BR>customers of=20
freedom2surf rather than anything =
intentionally<BR>abusive.<BR><BR>Those of=20
you who participated in this protest -- it isn't wise<BR>to use a web =
form=20
protest that automatically forwards a form<BR>letter to email =
addresses, at=20
least not if you don't intend to<BR>harrass people. While I can =
see=20
doing this to officials in <BR>Gambia, it is NOT in your best =
interests or the=20
best interests<BR>of your cause to abuse the Internet in this=20
fashion.<BR><BR>Thank =
you!<BR><BR>=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D<BR><BR>From <A=20
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<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> (Alieu=20
Njie)<BR>Subject: Killing of Gambian Student protesters<BR>Message-Id: =
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protesting=20
the senseless killing of innocent students and civilians was submitted =
by<BR>Alieu Njie (<A =
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on Monday, April 17, 2000 at=20
=
11:43:58<BR>-------------------------------------------------------------=
--------------<BR><BR>Country:=20
Gambia<BR><BR>Comments: Dear Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring =
to your=20
notice the tragic events that took place in The Republic of the Gambia =
on=20
April 10th. and 11th., when security forces opened fire on unarmed =
student and=20
civilian demonstrators killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red =
Cross=20
volunteer and journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a=20
demonstration to protest against the torture and murder of a fellow =
student=20
Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old =
school=20
girl, Binta Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students =
have since=20
been arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their =
children are=20
among the dead or imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned =
citizen, to respectfully request you and your organization to keep =
pressure on=20
the Government of The Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the =
Gambian=20
security forces to halt all excessive use of force against=20
civilians;<BR> <BR>Release all the students currently under =
detention;=20
<BR> <BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and=20
circumstances surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security =
personnel found=20
to have used excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be =
fully=20
dealt with according to the provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the =
Gambian=20
security forces to exercise maximum restraint towards students =
protesting the=20
deaths of their friends and schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those =
responsible=20
for the murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are =
prosecuted to=20
the maximum extent of the law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that =
all=20
security personnel and the Gambian government abide by the =
constitution of The=20
Republic of The Gambia and the international human rights standards =
enumerated=20
in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted =
without=20
opposition by the United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., =
1948.=20
<BR><BR><BR>While awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this =
most=20
urgent of matters, I take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and =
your=20
organization for your concern and continued support and promotion of =
human=20
rights around the world. <BR><BR><BR>Sincerely, <BR><BR>Alieu=20
=
NJie<BR><BR><BR>---------------------------------------------------------=
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<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> (Hamjatta=20
Kanteh)<BR>Subject: Killing of Gambian Student =
protesters<BR>Message-Id:=20
<<A=20
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(4/17/00)<BR>X-SBRule: Bogus AOL<BR>X-SBPass: No Freemail=20
Filtering<BR>X-SBClass: Blocked<BR>Status: RO<BR><BR>This letter =
protesting=20
the senseless killing of innocent students and civilians was submitted =
by<BR>Hamjatta Kanteh (<A =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>)=20
on Monday, April 17, 2000 at=20
=
11:55:18<BR>-------------------------------------------------------------=
--------------<BR><BR>Country:=20
United Kingdom<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN =
<BR> =20
<BR>Dear Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring to your notice the =
tragic=20
events that took place in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. =
and 11th.,=20
when security forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian =
demonstrators=20
killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and=20
journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration =
to=20
protest against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima =
Barry by=20
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta =20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and=20
distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the =
dead or=20
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned citizen, to =
respectfully=20
request you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government =
of The=20
Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
halt=20
all excessive use of force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release =
all the=20
students currently under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names =
of those=20
killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;=20
<BR><BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to =
have used=20
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with=20
according to the provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian =
security=20
forces to exercise maximum restraint towards students protesting the =
deaths of=20
their friends and schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible =
for the=20
murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to =
the=20
maximum extent of the law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all =
security=20
personnel and the Gambian government abide by the constitution of The =
Republic=20
of The Gambia and the international human rights standards enumerated =
in the=20
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without =
opposition by=20
the United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
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<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> (alhagi =
njie)<BR>Subject:=20
Killing of Gambian Student protesters<BR>Message-Id: <<A=20
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na <<A=20
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Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:48:25 +0000<BR>X-SpamBouncer: 1.2 beta=20
(4/17/00)<BR>X-SBRule: Bogus AOL<BR>X-SBPass: No Freemail=20
Filtering<BR>X-SBClass: Blocked<BR>Status: RO<BR><BR>This letter =
protesting=20
the senseless killing of innocent students and civilians was submitted =
by<BR>alhagi njie (<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>) =
on=20
Monday, April 17, 2000 at=20
=
13:48:25<BR>-------------------------------------------------------------=
--------------<BR><BR>Country:=20
gambia<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> =
<BR>Dear=20
Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic =
events that=20
took place in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., =
when=20
security forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian =
demonstrators=20
killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and=20
journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration =
to=20
protest against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima =
Barry by=20
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta =20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and=20
distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the =
dead or=20
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned citizen, to =
respectfully=20
request you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government =
of The=20
Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
halt=20
all excessive use of force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release =
all the=20
students currently under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names =
of those=20
killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;=20
<BR><BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to =
have used=20
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with=20
according to the provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian =
security=20
forces to exercise maximum restraint towards students protesting the =
deaths of=20
their friends and schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible =
for the=20
murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to =
the=20
maximum extent of the law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all =
security=20
personnel and the Gambian government abide by the constitution of The =
Republic=20
of The Gambia and the international human rights standards enumerated =
in the=20
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without =
opposition by=20
the United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
<BR><BR><BR><BR>---------------------------------------------------------=
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<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> =
(Concerned=20
Gambian)<BR>Subject: Killing of Gambian Student =
protesters<BR>Message-Id:=20
<<A=20
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[log in to unmask]</A>><BR>Sender:=20
na <<A=20
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(4/17/00)<BR>X-SBRule: Bogus Hotmail<BR>X-SBPass: No Freemail=20
Filtering<BR>X-SBClass: Blocked<BR>Status: RO<BR><BR>This letter =
protesting=20
the senseless killing of innocent students and civilians was submitted =
by<BR>Concerned Gambian (<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>) on =
Monday, April=20
17, 2000 at=20
=
14:26:42<BR>-------------------------------------------------------------=
--------------<BR><BR>Country:=20
USA<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> <BR>Dear=20
Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic =
events that=20
took place in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., =
when=20
security forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian =
demonstrators=20
killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and=20
journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration =
to=20
protest against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima =
Barry by=20
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta =20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and=20
distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the =
dead or=20
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned citizen, to =
respectfully=20
request you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government =
of The=20
Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
halt=20
all excessive use of force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release =
all the=20
students currently under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names =
of those=20
killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;=20
<BR><BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to =
have used=20
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with=20
according to the provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian =
security=20
forces to exercise maximum restraint towards students protesting the =
deaths of=20
their friends and schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible =
for the=20
murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to =
the=20
maximum extent of the law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all =
security=20
personnel and the Gambian government abide by the constitution of The =
Republic=20
of The Gambia and the international human rights standards enumerated =
in the=20
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without =
opposition by=20
the United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
<BR><BR><BR><BR>---------------------------------------------------------=
------------------<BR><BR>From=20
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Denmark<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> =
<BR>Dear=20
Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic =
events that=20
took place in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., =
when=20
security forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian =
demonstrators=20
killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and=20
journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration =
to=20
protest against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima =
Barry by=20
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta =20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and=20
distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the =
dead or=20
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned citizen, to =
respectfully=20
request you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government =
of The=20
Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
halt=20
all excessive use of force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release =
all the=20
students currently under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names =
of those=20
killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;=20
<BR><BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to =
have used=20
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with=20
according to the provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian =
security=20
forces to exercise maximum restraint towards students protesting the =
deaths of=20
their friends and schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible =
for the=20
murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to =
the=20
maximum extent of the law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all =
security=20
personnel and the Gambian government abide by the constitution of The =
Republic=20
of The Gambia and the international human rights standards enumerated =
in the=20
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without =
opposition by=20
the United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely, <BR><BR>Momodou=20
=
Camara<BR><BR><BR>-------------------------------------------------------=
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--------------<BR><BR>Comments:=20
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> <BR>Dear Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I =
am=20
writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place in =
The=20
Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security forces =
opened=20
fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing 14 people,=20
including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. These =
deaths=20
occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest against the =
torture=20
and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, =
and the=20
rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a police =
officer.=20
Hundreds of students have since been arrested and distraught parents =
do not=20
know whether their children are among the dead or =
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I=20
am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
your=20
organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:=20
<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use =
of=20
force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release all the students =
currently=20
under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names of those killed and =
release=20
their bodies to their relatives for proper burial; <BR><BR>Launch an=20
independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances surrounding =
it;=20
<BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive force=20
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
the=20
provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
exercise=20
maximum restraint towards students protesting the deaths of their =
friends and=20
schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible for the murder of =
Ebrima=20
Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum =
extent of the=20
law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel and =
the=20
Gambian government abide by the constitution of The Republic of The =
Gambia and=20
the international human rights standards enumerated in the Universal=20
Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without opposition by =
the=20
United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
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innocent students and civilians was submitted by<BR>Svend Ole =
Kvilesjoe (<A=20
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Oslo, Norway<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> =
<BR>Dear=20
Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic =
events that=20
took place in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., =
when=20
security forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian =
demonstrators=20
killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and=20
journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration =
to=20
protest against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima =
Barry by=20
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta =20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and=20
distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the =
dead or=20
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned citizen, to =
respectfully=20
request you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government =
of The=20
Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
halt=20
all excessive use of force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release =
all the=20
students currently under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names =
of those=20
killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;=20
<BR><BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to =
have used=20
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with=20
according to the provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian =
security=20
forces to exercise maximum restraint towards students protesting the =
deaths of=20
their friends and schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible =
for the=20
murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to =
the=20
maximum extent of the law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all =
security=20
personnel and the Gambian government abide by the constitution of The =
Republic=20
of The Gambia and the international human rights standards enumerated =
in the=20
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without =
opposition by=20
the United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
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Admin<BR>Status: O<BR><BR>This letter protesting the senseless killing =
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Gambia<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> =
<BR>Dear=20
Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic =
events that=20
took place in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., =
when=20
security forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian =
demonstrators=20
killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and=20
journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration =
to=20
protest against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima =
Barry by=20
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta =20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and=20
distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the =
dead or=20
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned citizen, to =
respectfully=20
request you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government =
of The=20
Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
halt=20
all excessive use of force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release =
all the=20
students currently under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names =
of those=20
killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;=20
<BR><BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to =
have used=20
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses and all those =
responsible for=20
the killings will be fully dealt with according to the provisions of =
the=20
law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum =
restraint=20
towards students protesting the deaths of their friends and=20
schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible for the murder of =
Ebrima=20
Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum =
extent of the=20
law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel and =
the=20
Gambian government abide by the constitution of The Republic of The =
Gambia and=20
the international human rights standards enumerated in the Universal=20
Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without opposition by =
the=20
United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
<BR><BR><BR><BR>---------------------------------------------------------=
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Jabang)<BR>Subject: Killing of Gambian Student =
protesters<BR>Message-Id:=20
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Admin<BR>Status: RO<BR><BR>This letter protesting the senseless =
killing of=20
innocent students and civilians was submitted by<BR>Adama Jabang (<A=20
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Monday, April=20
17, 2000 at=20
=
12:15:51<BR>-------------------------------------------------------------=
--------------<BR><BR>Country:=20
Gambian, studying in Britain at present<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT =
MAY=20
CONCERN <BR> <BR>Dear Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to =
bring to=20
your notice the tragic events that took place in The Republic of the =
Gambia on=20
April 10th. and 11th., when security forces opened fire on unarmed =
student and=20
civilian demonstrators killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red =
Cross=20
volunteer and journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a=20
demonstration to protest against the torture and murder of a fellow =
student=20
Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old =
school=20
girl, Binta Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students =
have since=20
been arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their =
children are=20
among the dead or imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned =
citizen, to respectfully request you and your organization to keep =
pressure on=20
the Government of The Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the =
Gambian=20
security forces to halt all excessive use of force against=20
civilians;<BR> <BR>Release all the students currently under =
detention;=20
<BR> <BR>Release the names of those killed and release their =
bodies to=20
their relatives for proper burial; <BR><BR>Launch an independent =
enquiry into=20
the shootings and circumstances surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that =
all=20
security personnel found to have used excessive force resulting in =
human=20
rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to the provisions of =
the=20
law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum =
restraint=20
towards students protesting the deaths of their friends and=20
schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible for the murder of =
Ebrima=20
Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum =
extent of the=20
law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel and =
the=20
Gambian government abide by the constitution of The Republic of The =
Gambia and=20
the international human rights standards enumerated in the Universal=20
Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without opposition by =
the=20
United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
<BR><BR><BR><BR>---------------------------------------------------------=
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Admin<BR>Status: O<BR><BR>This letter protesting the senseless killing =
of=20
innocent students and civilians was submitted by<BR> () on =
Monday, April=20
17, 2000 at=20
=
13:21:44<BR>-------------------------------------------------------------=
--------------<BR><BR>Country:=20
finland/ghanian<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN =
<BR> =20
<BR>Dear Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring to your notice the =
tragic=20
events that took place in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. =
and 11th.,=20
when security forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian =
demonstrators=20
killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and=20
journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration =
to=20
protest against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima =
Barry by=20
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta =20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and=20
distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the =
dead or=20
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned citizen, to =
respectfully=20
request you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government =
of The=20
Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
halt=20
all excessive use of force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release =
all the=20
students currently under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names =
of those=20
killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;=20
<BR><BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to =
have used=20
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with=20
according to the provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian =
security=20
forces to exercise maximum restraint towards students protesting the =
deaths of=20
their friends and schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible =
for the=20
murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to =
the=20
maximum extent of the law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all =
security=20
personnel and the Gambian government abide by the constitution of The =
Republic=20
of The Gambia and the international human rights standards enumerated =
in the=20
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without =
opposition by=20
the United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
<BR><BR><BR><BR>---------------------------------------------------------=
------------------<BR><BR>From=20
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innocent students and civilians was submitted by<BR> () on =
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17, 2000 at=20
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--------------<BR><BR>Country:=20
finland<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> =
<BR>Dear=20
Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic =
events that=20
took place in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., =
when=20
security forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian =
demonstrators=20
killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and=20
journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration =
to=20
protest against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima =
Barry by=20
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta =20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and=20
distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the =
dead or=20
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned citizen, to =
respectfully=20
request you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government =
of The=20
Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
halt=20
all excessive use of force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release =
all the=20
students currently under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names =
of those=20
killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;=20
<BR><BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to =
have used=20
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with=20
according to the provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian =
security=20
forces to exercise maximum restraint towards students protesting the =
deaths of=20
their friends and schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible =
for the=20
murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to =
the=20
maximum extent of the law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all =
security=20
personnel and the Gambian government abide by the constitution of The =
Republic=20
of The Gambia and the international human rights standards enumerated =
in the=20
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without =
opposition by=20
the United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
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The Netherlands<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN =
<BR> =20
<BR>Dear Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring to your notice the =
tragic=20
events that took place in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. =
and 11th.,=20
when security forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian =
demonstrators=20
killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and=20
journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration =
to=20
protest against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima =
Barry by=20
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta =20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and=20
distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the =
dead or=20
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned citizen, to =
respectfully=20
request you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government =
of The=20
Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
halt=20
all excessive use of force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release =
all the=20
students currently under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names =
of those=20
killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;=20
<BR><BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to =
have used=20
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with=20
according to the provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian =
security=20
forces to exercise maximum restraint towards students protesting the =
deaths of=20
their friends and schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible =
for the=20
murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to =
the=20
maximum extent of the law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all =
security=20
personnel and the Gambian government abide by the constitution of The =
Republic=20
of The Gambia and the international human rights standards enumerated =
in the=20
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without =
opposition by=20
the United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
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innocent students and civilians was submitted by<BR>kebba sinyan (<A=20
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--------------<BR><BR>Country:=20
USA<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> <BR>Dear=20
Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic =
events that=20
took place in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., =
when=20
security forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian =
demonstrators=20
killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and=20
journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration =
to=20
protest against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima =
Barry by=20
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta =20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and=20
distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the =
dead or=20
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned citizen, to =
respectfully=20
request you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government =
of The=20
Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
halt=20
all excessive use of force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release =
all the=20
students currently under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names =
of those=20
killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;=20
<BR><BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to =
have used=20
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with=20
according to the provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian =
security=20
forces to exercise maximum restraint towards students protesting the =
deaths of=20
their friends and schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible =
for the=20
murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to =
the=20
maximum extent of the law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all =
security=20
personnel and the Gambian government abide by the constitution of The =
Republic=20
of The Gambia and the international human rights standards enumerated =
in the=20
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without =
opposition by=20
the United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
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(Pakaramo)<BR>Subject: Killing of Gambian Student =
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--------------<BR><BR>Comments:=20
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> <BR>Dear Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I =
am=20
writing to bring to your notice the tragic events that took place in =
The=20
Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., when security forces =
opened=20
fire on unarmed student and civilian demonstrators killing 14 people,=20
including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. These =
deaths=20
occurred as students went on a demonstration to protest against the =
torture=20
and murder of a fellow student Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, =
and the=20
rape of a 13-year old school girl, Binta Manneh, by a police =
officer.=20
Hundreds of students have since been arrested and distraught parents =
do not=20
know whether their children are among the dead or =
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I=20
am writing as a concerned citizen, to respectfully request you and =
your=20
organization to keep pressure on the Government of The Gambia to =
immediately:=20
<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use =
of=20
force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release all the students =
currently=20
under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names of those killed and =
release=20
their bodies to their relatives for proper burial; <BR><BR>Launch an=20
independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances surrounding =
it;=20
<BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive force=20
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
the=20
provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
exercise=20
maximum restraint towards students protesting the deaths of their =
friends and=20
schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible for the murder of =
Ebrima=20
Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum =
extent of the=20
law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel and =
the=20
Gambian government abide by the constitution of The Republic of The =
Gambia and=20
the international human rights standards enumerated in the Universal=20
Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without opposition by =
the=20
United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
<BR><BR>Pakaramo<BR><BR>-------------------------------------------------=
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<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> ( Abdoulaye =
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innocent students and civilians was submitted by<BR> Abdoulaye =
Saine (<A=20
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April 17,=20
2000 at=20
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--------------<BR><BR>Country: =20
USA<BR><BR>Comments: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> <BR>Dear=20
Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing to bring to your notice the tragic =
events that=20
took place in The Republic of the Gambia on April 10th. and 11th., =
when=20
security forces opened fire on unarmed student and civilian =
demonstrators=20
killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and=20
journalist. These deaths occurred as students went on a demonstration =
to=20
protest against the torture and murder of a fellow student Ebrima =
Barry by=20
Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old school girl, =
Binta =20
Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students have since been =
arrested and=20
distraught parents do not know whether their children are among the =
dead or=20
imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned citizen, to =
respectfully=20
request you and your organization to keep pressure on the Government =
of The=20
Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
halt=20
all excessive use of force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release =
all the=20
students currently under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names =
of those=20
killed and release their bodies to their relatives for proper burial;=20
<BR><BR>Launch an independent enquiry into the shootings and =
circumstances=20
surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to =
have used=20
excessive force resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt =
with=20
according to the provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian =
security=20
forces to exercise maximum restraint towards students protesting the =
deaths of=20
their friends and schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible =
for the=20
murder of Ebrima Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to =
the=20
maximum extent of the law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all =
security=20
personnel and the Gambian government abide by the constitution of The =
Republic=20
of The Gambia and the international human rights standards enumerated =
in the=20
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without =
opposition by=20
the United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
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Admin<BR>Status: RO<BR><BR>This letter protesting the senseless =
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Banjul, The Gambia - transmitting from the U.S.A<BR><BR>Comments: TO =
WHOM IT=20
MAY CONCERN <BR> <BR>Dear Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I am writing =
to bring=20
to your notice the tragic events that took place in The Republic of =
the Gambia=20
on April 10th. and 11th., when security forces opened fire on unarmed =
student=20
and civilian demonstrators killing 14 people, including Omar Barrow, a =
Red=20
Cross volunteer and journalist. These deaths occurred as students went =
on a=20
demonstration to protest against the torture and murder of a fellow =
student=20
Ebrima Barry by Fire Service personnel, and the rape of a 13-year old =
school=20
girl, Binta Manneh, by a police officer. Hundreds of students =
have since=20
been arrested and distraught parents do not know whether their =
children are=20
among the dead or imprisoned.<BR> <BR>I am writing as a concerned =
citizen, to respectfully request you and your organization to keep =
pressure on=20
the Government of The Gambia to immediately: <BR><BR>Instruct the =
Gambian=20
security forces to halt all excessive use of force against=20
civilians;<BR> <BR>Release all the students currently under =
detention;=20
<BR> <BR>Release the names of those killed and release their =
bodies to=20
their relatives for proper burial; <BR><BR>Launch an independent =
enquiry into=20
the shootings and circumstances surrounding it; <BR><BR>Ensure that =
all=20
security personnel found to have used excessive force resulting in =
human=20
rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to the provisions of =
the=20
law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to exercise maximum =
restraint=20
towards students protesting the deaths of their friends and=20
schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible for the murder of =
Ebrima=20
Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum =
extent of the=20
law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel and =
the=20
Gambian government abide by the constitution of The Republic of The =
Gambia and=20
the international human rights standards enumerated in the Universal=20
Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without opposition by =
the=20
United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
world.=20
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,=20
=
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> <BR>Dear Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I =
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opened=20
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your=20
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immediately:=20
<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use =
of=20
force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release all the students =
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release=20
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independent enquiry into the shootings and circumstances surrounding =
it;=20
<BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel found to have used =
excessive force=20
resulting in human rights abuses will be fully dealt with according to =
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provisions of the law;<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to =
exercise=20
maximum restraint towards students protesting the deaths of their =
friends and=20
schoolmates;<BR><BR>Ensure that those responsible for the murder of =
Ebrima=20
Barry and the rape of Binta Manneh are prosecuted to the maximum =
extent of the=20
law without undue delay;<BR><BR>Ensure that all security personnel and =
the=20
Gambian government abide by the constitution of The Republic of The =
Gambia and=20
the international human rights standards enumerated in the Universal=20
Declaration of Human Rights, which was adopted without opposition by =
the=20
United Nations General Assembly on December 10th., 1948. =
<BR><BR><BR>While=20
awaiting your kind co-operation and support in this most urgent of =
matters, I=20
take this opportunity to sincerely thank you and your organization for =
your=20
concern and continued support and promotion of human rights around the =
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TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN <BR> <BR>Dear Sir/Madam, <BR><BR>I =
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opened=20
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including Omar Barrow, a Red Cross volunteer and journalist. These =
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torture=20
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do not=20
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your=20
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immediately:=20
<BR><BR>Instruct the Gambian security forces to halt all excessive use =
of=20
force against civilians;<BR> <BR>Release all the students =
currently=20
under detention; <BR> <BR>Release the names of those killed and =
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excessive force=20
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exercise=20
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friends and=20
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Hi Larry,
This is my email address and let me know the plans.
Thanks
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Please visit the following website http://www.gambia.f2s.com to sign the
petition. Thanks
Yankuba
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The page is down! Any reasons?
Madiba.
On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Pope Pope wrote:
> Please visit the following website http://www.gambia.f2s.com to sign the
> petition. Thanks
>
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Thanks for compliment. See thats the whole idea, that way we can always
remind people what happened. How would u suggest we go about finding
information about the victims? I know its very tough for the families right
now but with time am sure they might be open to the idea.
Pope
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>A very good job Pope. I will suggest that we post the list of the victims
>of
>this tragedy and if possible their pictures at a later date.
>
>Malanding
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> > Pope:
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> > Great Job on the petition and website!
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:51:20 +0200
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Subject: 'Cause We Are Confident in the Victory of Good Over Evil!
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Dr. Katim Touray wrote:
"Hi folks,
"First, I would like to apologize for my long period of silence in the
aftermath of the senseless killing of 14 people, and the wounding of tens of
others, by our very own Gambian security forces. The events of this past
April 10 and 11 are a shame that will haunt us forever. I join the many
people on and off this list, and the world over in condemning these
killings, and expressing my condolences to the bereaved families.
"As we've all seen over the past couple of days, there has been an
outpouring
of rage never before seen in The Gambia. It is indeed the least many can
do, at least for now, while we gather our strengths again, and prepare for
the battles ahead. I'd like to contribute one or two ideas to already
bulging collection of brilliant efforts underway. But before that, I'd like
to take the opportunity to touch on a few house-keeping issues, as regards
the list.
"Earlier in the week, Ambassador Sey in France sent in his perspective on
the
killings, and we all are aware of the wrath that brought him. In response,
he requested that I take him off the list, not knowing that I do not spend
my whole day in front of my computer waiting for just such requests.
Unfortunately for him, it was much later that day that I saw his appeals.
Needless to say, I did not make any efforts to unsubscribe Ambassador Sey.
This was for no reason other than the fact that every posting sent out on
Gambia-L includes instructions on how to unsubscribe from the list and view
archives of postings. I saw no reason why Ambassador Sey should have failed
to see those instructions, and had problems following them, if he did see
them.
"The second house-keeping issue I'd like to touch on is the request received
from Tombong Saidy regarding insults hurled at him by Madiba Saidy. I will
have to agree with Mr. Saidy on this one. This will then be the second time
(the first was in 1996) that I'm standing up for Mr. Saidy when insulted on
the list. But the issue is not Tombong Saidy, who I've never met in my
life. Rather, it's the principle that EVERYONE on the list deserves to be
treated with dignity, even if the person in question has been shown or known
to be probably undeserving of the dignity. I will say this, and it might
sound counter-intuitive, or even crazy, but folks, if there ever was a good
time to treat President Jammeh and his officials with respect, this is it.
"I'll explain shortly, but please assume for a moment that the above
assertion is true. In that case, it would follow that what is expected of
all of us is that we exercise restraint in the words we hurl at President
Jammeh and his officials. While it is entirely up to each of us to decide
what words to trade in private, I would advice that we be as forceful as is
possible, without being insulting or vulgar, in our public dialogs with the
Jammeh government. Besides, I'm of the opinion that if you have to insult
people to make your point, you really have nothing to say..."
-
Katim,
I sincerely hope that you will take the time to read this, for you might
learn a thing or two about political struggle.
After the brutal massacre of April 10th 2000, the political evolution of the
Gambia took a new and interesting turn. The Gambia as we used to know it,
ceased to exist when the security forces opened fire on unarmed school
children.
In response to something brother Yus wrote, I tried to draw parallels with
the 1976 massacre in Soweto in which Hector Petterson was the first victim.
The ANC used the poster depicting that dramatic event in its long and hard
campaign against the brutal white regime. The anti-apartheid movement used
the power of appeal conveyed by that picture to show the world how brutal
the apartheid regime was. I used to have a copy.
When now and then, you find time to stand, relaxed, in front of one of
such pictures, and observe them closely, they seem to have a way of
conveying a message. They seem to have a way of directly posing questions to
you, the admirer. Asking YOU, talking to YOU! Questioning your conscience!
They have a way of reducing all variables to only two: Good and Evil and
seem to be asking you to take a side; to choose! They seem to be asking you:
"Tell me, where do you stand?" (Find attached the picture of the monument
raised by the ANC, unveiled by the man who himself had decades earlier
declared: "The struggle is my life!" Madiba Mandela himself.
A man who has "suffered for the people" with pleasure, a man of God.).
With all the force and brutality that the apartheid security forces employed
against the people, some Africans still played the role of running dogs to
the white regime.
They spied for them, selling out those brave students and young political
activists in the political youth movement against apartheid. When the good
guys caught up with such dogs, they used to put a car tire around their
necks, pour petrol on them, then set them on fire. They used to call it
necklace. The use of the necklace was quite controversial, with the most
radical wing of the anti-apartheid movement supporting it. Winne Mandela is
on record as having advised the ANC youth "to use the necklace" on the
traitors of the cause for freedom.
They argued that these hyenas in sheep skin, who spied in on their
activities and then reported them back to Boers' machinery of
repression, deserved the same fate as the victims of their spying
activities. It was a "game" of life and death! The battle lines had been
drawn. It was good against evil. I PRAY to God, the Almighty, that the
situation at home does not deteriorate to the level. More on prayer later.
One didn't even have to be part of the movement, just a whisper from a spy
was enough for one to either "go missing" or declared to have "committed
suicide" whiles under police custody. Fear, suspicion, lies was the order of
the day.. They had deliberately chosen the side of evil for, nobody, even a
blind man, could be blind to the atrocities of apartheid.
You wrote barely a day later:
"Hi folks,
Thanks for all your e-mail messages. And please keep them coming.
I have a number issues I want to touch on. First, Sheikh Tijan Nyang
informed us that Muslims all over The Gambia offered prayers yesterday
(Fri., April 14) for the dead and wounded, and also prayed for "peace and
tranquility" back home. The Christians, Mr. Nyang said, will be praying
tomorrow (Sunday, April 16). And I say it's well and good that people pray
for the dead and wounded. But at the same time, I fear that we are going
back to our old ways of being hypocritical, and bringing God into something
He has nothing to do with. The killings that happened in The Gambia were
perpetrated by human beings against not only other human beings, but against
their very own fellow citizens. It is thus a crying shame that we are
hiding behind our faiths as week seek solutions to the problem we face, and
answers to the questions we are asking".
"..And I say it's well and good that people pray for the dead and
wounded. But at the same time, I fear that we are going
back to our old ways of being hypocritical, and bringing God into something
He has nothing to do with".
This is the ultimate display of a total lack political maturity. Katim, when
the government forces of repression massacred those defenceless kids, it
became a question of good against evil! It was a battle for the truth
against damned lies! Those students were demonstrating for the truth.
The truth about the murder of a fellow student, and the truth about the rape
of a fellow student. Justice for their fellow students.
People are tired of Jammeh's lies and if they whispered before, they shouted
at the top of their voices of April 10th. You have read from the same
sources as me the slogans the student had written on their banners and those
they shouted before, and as the events unfolded. Even as the events
unfolded the battle cries changed, as those zombies seemed to become more
blood thirsty.
So when religious leaders call for a day of prayers you say to them they are
missing the point? What's the point according to you? What are you really up
to?
Bother, it's you that don't seem to be able to figure it out!
Remember this is a battle between good and evil. And who is a better judge
of what is good and what is evil than the Almighty God Himself? Are you
really serious when you say that God has nothing to do with it? Listen, and
I'll tell you what God has to do with it:
At the funeral of the fallen hero, the late Omar Barrow, journalist and Red
Cross volunteer, when the Imam of Latrikunda (my own Imam for many years)
spoke to those present, he elevated the brother onto a pedestal and called
him a "Sahib", a martyr in the service of MANKIND.
Next time you hear about such atrocities committed or being committed
against a God fearing people and they call for prayers in mosques and in
churches, remember that for the faithful, the ultimate custodian of truth is
precisely their object of warship, their God their faith. Gambians have
faith in God. So when they gather to morn their dead and to "PRAY", what
they are actually doing is carrying out some form of mobilisation of the
soul and the spirit of their existence and their believes. When they pray
from
the Book of their faiths and ask God to protect them against evil, they
already know who represents that evil.
In any field of political struggle, when everybody else is silenced, the
true religious leaders assume the role of spokesmen for the oppressed. It is
in the Houses of God, after prayers, that religious leaders choose a very
apt and relevant theme to their struggle, and speak on behalf of good, of
truth. Desmond Tutu, Rev. Alan Busak are two known examples from the
anti-apartheid struggle. Arch Bishop Huddleston is another.
Dr. Martin Luther King is actually Rev. King, a man of the church who spread
his message as a simple choice between good and evil. Living in the US, I
thought you would know about "Negro spiritual" and their significance in the
Black Churches' religious/political mobilisation against evil.
The church also played a leading role in toppling Ferdinand Marcus by
preaching good against evil, by marching, demonstrating with the oppressed,
they clearly showed on whose side God was. Just recently in East Timor the
church played the role of custodian of the truth and helped liberate its
people.
When religious leaders begin to speak, all the faithful begin to listen,
Katim.
When I say religious leaders I do not mean the likes of Imam Fatty
either. On Friday, I went to the mosque here in Oslo to pray and morn with
the rest of the people. Afterward, when I showed round our petition and
asked for signatures, people obliged. I collected forty signatures. To those
who can't read, I made it a short simple message, stressing good against
evil!
Have you ever bothered to ask yourself why so many people of the church have
been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? The answer is simple. They have been
fighting for the truth, for justice for God's children, among the weakest of
the weak; for good against evil!
The mosque and the church are houses of meditation and reflection. The
houses of soul searching and conscience probing. When I read what you wrote,
I said: "There he goes again". You have demonstrated for all and sundry that
you are in unfamiliar terrain.
After your catastrophic and unpopular decree, banning religious postings to
the list without consulting with the list managers or starting a debate on
the subject first, you went silent until these tragic events and then you
choose to slide the door and look in to see how the kids are behaving. This
time round too, you had some "house-keeping" to do. You concluded that part
of your posting by saying that: "...Besides, I'm of the opinion that if you
have to insult people to make your point, you really have nothing to say..."
Isn't this a rather cheap way to make up for your own mess. Trying to gain
cheap popularity by putting down other people. The best thing you could have
done is apologise for your undemocratic behaviour and the unnecessary and
tense atmosphere it created and promise to be more democratic next time.
What is more of an insult to you: that made to our common intelligence by
being told outright lies that would make even a dead man frown, or somebody
calling Tombong an ass-liker. Whose side are you on? That name calling did
not go on for long. It happened in the heat of anger at the murder of these
innocent kids. Tombong just happens to be more politically sophisticated
than you Katim, and he is making good capital out of that. Believe it or
not. I am sure in that funeral of the late Omar Barrow, if a member of the
congregation called one of Jammeh's henchmen "wulu ding!" he would not be
scolded. Instead someone may hug him and try to share or take away some of
his frustration. So what is so unGambian about that? Isn't it hypocritical
to
suggest that lies are more Gambian than expressions of rage. Where does
phrases like "hadge bu deh bi", "jaam bi nga don", etc, come from?
Switzerland? What I have vowed NEVER to do on Gambia-L is insult somebody's
parent. THAT, would be most unGambian!
Tombong has first manipulated you into taking the stance that being lied to
about the murder of those young heroes of ours is less foul than calling
those who
try to rationalise murder "ass-lickers". You see my point? Tombong has
solely one role to play for Jammeh on this list; deception. He is quite
aware of what he's up. Listen to him when he wrote in response to an
interview with Kukoi Samba Sanyang carried in 'West Africa' in 1988 and
you'll know that the guy is more politically astute that you:
"From the interview one can clearly see that not only is Kukoi politically
irresponsible, but also lacks the basic understanding of the political
reality of the sub-region". He went further:
"He also claimed 'to prepare the people for a general uprising' which indeed
is all he did. The Gambians need a genuine revolution and not a popular
uprising; Kukoi doesn't seem to know the difference. After all, whether his
officials would have been called ministers or not is immaterial to the
people. What the Gambians are concerned with is whether they are qualified
to run a nation. We all doubt Kukoi's qualifications to rule a nation not to
mention his ignorance of the political reality of the sub-region. How can a
true revolutionary plan a coup d' etat in the Gambia without taking into
consideration the possibility of Senegalese intervention. This shows that
the organisers did not do their homework right.."
So you see, Tombong has "done his homework" and as he is pulling the strings
and you are doing a great dance, my brother. As far as Tombong and all those
Jammeh apologists are concerned, my attitude towards them is summed up in
the wollof proverb: "kafi dhoma, safut jabort!"
To me your contributions towards the debate which consisted mainly, in your
own words, of "an outpouring of rage never before seen in The Gambia" told
volumes about an attitude problem that you seem to have, compounded by an
identity crisis. The saddest thing about it though, is that you don't even
seem to be aware of it. So consider my revelation of this weakness in you
character a favour from me.
Your lack of political sophistication is so apparent Tombong and his gang
must be having a field day. You seem to want to start a car from the fourth
gear. You want to engage in a political struggle without first studying the
terrain. There were "revolutionaries" in the field before Katim decided to
declare battle on Jammeh. Tombong was one of them but has now decided to
mortgage his soul, in the pay book of the devil, of evil!!! I will never
share the company of such, lest I catch what they are carrying.
Some of them have perfected their act over the course of time. Tombong
belongs to the core of "intellectuals" of the APRC syndicate and I can
identify most of them because I've worked with them. I can tell you what
they stand for and how they intend to achieve it. About the whole history of
the July 22nd "movement" and how it is modelled and why. Do not ever buy the
lie that the July 22nd "movement" has been dissolved. I can tell you where
Jammeh got his half-baked political theories. Keep this mail, just for
keeping.
Though I've never met Tombong, I've worked with that other group among the
core who are behind Jammeh's affair with the Arab World. They studied at
Al-Fatah University in Tripoli and speak perfect Arabic. They are spread
(posted) in different parts of the bureaucracy. The most notorious among
them
being Baba Jobe, "Adviser to the President". The July 22nd "movement is
supposed to be modelled after it's Libyan counterpart, the September 1st
movement.
It is supposed to form a core of revolutionary die-hards that supervise a
certain defence core in the army and at the same time promote and defend the
revolution at all times. They form a link between local representation and
the leadership as propounded in the Green Book. They are "Boy Narr's"
backbone.
The July 22th "movement" has failed terribly to do what is was supposed to
do, unlike its Libyan counterpart. In Burkina Faso, the same model
functioned successfully for a while under Sankara, but failed in Ghana where
Rawlins also experimented with the idea. Listen to what Tombong went on to
tell Kukoi in the same letter mentioned above:
"Let Kukoi not make the mistake of going back to the Gambia, because even
before Jawara lays hands on him, the people will deal with him squarely. In
one week Kukoi and his fellow adventurers inflicted more misery and hardship
on the Gambian people than Jawara and his clique did in their entire tenure
in office. The Gambia is presently in a military siege because of Kukoi. All
Kukoi and his NRC did was to make things more difficult for future
revolutionaries. The NRC are nothing more than an irresponsible bunch of
political fool led by a nonentity"
Do you now see the political animal in the man? Is not the Gambia, with her
peace-loving and vibrant people under siege as I write this? Is it not the
same man who wrote the above who is now running up here peddling outright
lies? He knows the whole set-up. Defending today what he was condemning
yesterday. He knows the above and more and has opted to stay put because of
the
luxurious life his Kleptomaniac clown of a leader has afforded him so that
he
can now commute between his two wives, one in Banjul and one in London.
Katim, you have a tendency of thinking so highly of yourself that you
underestimate others. Do not underestimate Tombong!!!
If that was not enough, you begin your first day in class on a subject that
you have demonstrated total unfamiliarity with, tabling a guideline
for negotiations. You start by offering those criminals immunity from
prosecution and live-lasting pensions on top of that! - and this even before
the dead are buried! What are you out to prove? Or better still, whose side
are you on? Good or evil? The battle lines have been drawn. Why do you want
to hang out with murderers? Whose side are you on? If you are on the side of
the Gambian masses you cannot dismiss God's role in our struggle against
evil. Those who
called for prayers are more politically sophisticated than you. When they
pray for God to protect them from evil, they at the same time know that "God
is not going
to come down from the sky, take away every evil and make everybody high" For
them the house of warship is the house of mobilisation against evil. Do you
need someone to spell it out for you?
How can you speak for the families of the martyred? You looked in, decided
to come in, found people grieving and vowing to bring the culprits to
justice and what do you do? You offer to give amnesty to the murders even as
they were busy denying they committed any crime.
People like Karamba have long since pinned their notices on the corridors of
Gambia-L, virtually telling anybody who has a beef with the criminals back
home to "PLEASE" not leave them out. They've done their "homework", they
will never offer Jammeh any carrots. They KNOW the fool wouldn't take it.
Talking of carrots; so that meant to be a "carrot"? Sounds more like
chocolate to me. What's the rush? If you have been doing your homework, you
wouldn't have failed to know that in Sierra Leon, the debate is still raging
as to whether it is morally right to forgive those animals who amputated the
limbs of innocent children. Those in favour of amnesty argue that it is a
pre-condition for lasting peace in that country.
The sceptics maintain that this would be tantamount to telling everybody,
loud and clear, that you can confiscate our freedom anytime you can amass
enough weapons and mobilise some zombies to massacre innocent people.
Don't be confused by the case of South Africa. That was different because
there is no danger of a repeat of the apartheid atrocities. So there they
can afford to forgive for the purpose of peace and national reconciliation
and self-healing. But even there, they first had to admit their crimes. The
exit ticket you are offering Yaya Jammeh is too good. He does not deserve
it. Did you see his act. Trying to woo God after ordering the massacre of
all those kids! What offends you more?
Your offering of "chocolate" to Yaya Jammeh and his gang confirms my
suspicion that you have not cared to study him properly before making you
debut into the arena of political negotiations. If you did, you have
definitely arrived at the wrong conclusion. If you know the history of Sgt.
Samuel Doe, you will save me the trouble of having to psychoanalyse Jammeh
for you. Suffice to say that Jammeh's mentality has it that he is sitting on
the whole bar of chocolate and much more of that which you are offering him.
His answer to you will be "Come and get it".
Jammeh had been a MOJA "wannabe", listening in to conversations by members
of the movement, some of whom used to visit Salomon Tamba, then a MOJA
militant himself. Jammeh was a resident with the Tamba family. If you hear
the kind of garbage this man used to propound, you wouldn't understand how
in God's name he managed to take us for a ride this long.
The answer is simply because he has people like Tombong apologising for him
here, and elsewhere. From now on, whenever Jammeh needs to manipulate public
opinion on Gambia-L- or careate confusion, all he has to do is wink at
Tombang and say "Go get Katim" and Tombong would come running, crying,
saying "Papa Katim, You see this man is insulting me. It is unfair we must
not allow it on Gambia-L". Then Dr. Katim shal oblige and "keep-house".
If you want to study Jammeh, I am in possession of many hours of video tape
of Jammeh talking nonsense upon nonsense. Whenever I listen to the guy a
chill runs down my spine! He's a total lunatic living in his own coco-world
of some great African King, in the standing of Musa Molloh, Samuri Touray,
Mansa Musa, etc. and on top of that he is surrounded by a bunch of
ass-lickers who are constantly jockeying to be in his good books, that is if
he has any. So there goes you plan A. to the dustbin where it belongs.
Jammeh ordered the murder of these children and came "home" shedding
crocodile tears, after Tombong and others have advised him that the people
are very angry and any contrary move would be counter-productive. What does
he do?
Listen, Katim, He tried to high-jack our grief. He tried to
recruit the Almighty to his side. The people of the Gambia are more
politically sophisticated than you think. They know an evil man
when they see one.
If you want to remove Jammeh it cannot be done with "nylon boy politics"
alone. You see Katim, you seem to be behind many on the list when we enter
the realm of politics. When the battle lines are drawn, different camps go
for different strategies. Tombong has caused you to cause a rift within your
own camp. He dangled the bait and you dived for it. You see I was quite
aware of what I was doing when I literally pranced on Tombong and Mr.
"ambassador".
What do you know about 'carrot and stick'? You carry the carrot and I carry
the stick. Do I have to spell it out for you? 'Carrot and stick' is not only
used in its "diplomatic" connotation.
During the Civil Rights struggle, Brother Malcolm X carried the stick,
whiles Rev. King carried the carrot. When Malcolm talked in the
no-compromise tone of revenge, he scared the whites so that they rallied
behind King, a man of the church, to them, a "civilised". They
joined the call for more right for Africans "so that they don't rally behind
the
extremist 'Black Muslim'". What they didn't know was that Malcolm could
never hurt
anybody. Malcolm was a Muslim, King a Christian. They were both on the side
of good,
against evil!!! Take this example and find similar examples and study them
to understand them. It's so simple I find it hard to believe that with your
high sounding title you can't seem to be able to figur it out.
For your plan B; you can look closer to home! Things are happening. The
youth just helped the opposition with the elections. We have been told that
Ande Jef has set up a website to support the students; their leader is a
member of the new government. Why not start a dialog with the youth of
Senegal so that we can learn from their democratic campaign to replace Joof.
The new government there is left of centre. Why not explore the possibility
of setting up a radio station there. The Senegalese masses are as angry when
their cousins are brutally massacred. They've already begun comparing Jammeh
to Bukassa. Why America. Why not come closer to home?
To all of you, good, God-fearing people, who recognise evil and the essence
of truth, I apologise from the bottom of my heart for any language that may
have offended you. I felt as had to say it as I see it. To you I say sorry.
To Tombong and the rest, I say: God is not on you side. Give up evil. Join
the ranks of the downtrodden. Take a trip and stay abroad and join the
forces of good. Where is the rasterman in you? Don't you now and then, hum
unconsciously, in unison with brother Bob: "'cause we are confident, in the
victory of good over evil." Or is this just a 'rat race' for you? Come on!
We will welcome you into our fold, forgive you, before you have blood on
your hands!
Amadu Kabir Njie.
PS: To all of you, good, God-fearing people, who recognise evil and the
essence of truth, I apologise from the bottom of my heart for any language
that may have offended you. I felt as had to say it as I see it. To you I
say sorry.
BTW, Rastafarianism too was/is a quest for the truth by brethrens caught in
captivity in Babylon, yarning to fly away home to Zion, one fine day. In
their quest for the truth they made a re-write of the Bible, professing to
be the stolen ones, waiting to return to their Promised Land. They too have
room for Jah, The Most High in their search of the truth!
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:16:21 EDT
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He's got a valid point, need to rethink this! Thanks for forwarding it the
msg
Pope
YN
>From: Momodou Camara <[log in to unmask]>
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>Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:53:28 +0200
>
>Hi folks,
>I received this mail from one of the e-mail recipients of the petition
>letter.
>
>Perhaps a new strategy has to be considered. The distribution of the
>flyers at
>the first of May (international workers day) celebrations all over the
>world.
>
>Momodou Camara
>
>
>
>On 17 Apr 00, at 10:14, Catherine Hampton [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
> > Freedom2surf -- someone has put the webmaster address for the
> > Human Rights Web, which I maintain, on a mailing list for a
> > protest. This has resulted in my getting eighteen identical
> > email messages regarding this case, under different names and
> > ostensibly from different email addresses. :( The emails are
> > attached, and if you look at the headers, each one of them was
> > sent from your site, not from the sites in the email addresses
> > in the From: lines.
> >
> > I suspect this was done through a CGI script on a web page,
> > since several emails have no name in the From: line whatsoever.
> >
> > These emails were sent to most of the valid addresses at
> > Amnesty International, a number of other addresses belonging
> > to other human rights organizations, and contact addresses
> > at newspapers around the world. All eighteen =IDENTICAL=
> > messages were sent to all of these addresses.
> >
> > I am one person, not in any way affiliated with the Gambian
> > government, and maintain one Web site about human rights. One
> > email is more than sufficient to make me aware of this situation.
> > What this protest has done is spam my mailbox. That wasn't
> > intelligent -- the protesters have probably done their cause
> > considerable harm, although (from what I know about Gambia)
> > their cause may be quite worthwhile.
> >
> > Please determine what happened here and take the necessary
> > steps to stop it. Thank you!
> >
> > Ebone -- I'm ccing this to you for your information, although
> > I suspect this was a badly planned and executed protest by some
> > customers of freedom2surf rather than anything intentionally
> > abusive.
> >
> > Those of you who participated in this protest -- it isn't wise
> > to use a web form protest that automatically forwards a form
> > letter to email addresses, at least not if you don't intend to
> > harrass people. While I can see doing this to officials in
> > Gambia, it is NOT in your best interests or the best interests
> > of your cause to abuse the Internet in this fashion.
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> >
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:18:56 EDT
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Actually this was the idea, but perhaps in restropect appending the e-mail
addresses would be a better idea. I can change the form to accomodate that.
Just lemme know....
Pope
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:32:50 EDT
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I have disabled the Petiton page till further notice because I think these
are legitimate concerns that have been raised here. Only wished I had
thought about that (should have known better). Anyways I apolozise for any
set back this might have caused us. Perhaps I can modify the form to collect
names and e-mail addresses and maybe after a week or two we can append all
the names and to the petition letter and then send it by regular mail. Again
I'll volunteer to do this both time and resource wise. Let me know what you
think. In the mean time I'll work on an apology letter to send to these
organizations.
Pope
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:45:32 -0400
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Ebrima Ceesay:
Keep up the good work! The analyses and information that you have been
providing and forwarding to the Bantaba are appreciated. Together, they
give a balanced picture of what is going on in The Gambia. The "truth"
can not and will not be repressed.
Abdoulaye saine
No justice, no peace, Jammeh Must Go!
ebrima ceesay wrote:
>
> Gambia-L,
>
> I am sending these extracts below, as usual, from one of my sources.
> Hamjatta, I got a call from Malick Kah in London last night and he had
> informed me that the planned demonstration for those of us in the UK will
> now take place at the Gambia High Commission in London, on May 2, at 11 am,
> and not today, as originally intended.
>
> They had a friutful meeting yesterday, he added, but I was unable to attend
> it. However, I was told that some Gambia L memebers were there. The meeting
> also appointed Malick Kah, James Bahoum and myself as spokespersons. But you
> were right in your earlier posting, by saying that the demonstration is now
> slated for May 2, 2000 at 11am.
>
> ***************************************************************
>
> Ebrima,
>
> The under-currents are still there despite the calmness on the surface. In
> fact, yesterday, in and around Mansa Konko, the town people there resisted
> officers trying to arrest school children.
>
> They threatened to burn the whole town down if the police dare arrest their
> children which resulted in their (Police) withdrawal without a single child
> being taken into custody.
>
> It appears that the people of LRD are also ready to defend their rights as
> citizens. Karamba Touray's version of events on Jammeh arrival, which
> article is in fact being photocopied and distributed here in our offices, is
> the truth.
>
> The president arrived early sunday morning around 02:00-3:00 as narrated by
> Mr Touray. In fact, our mutual diplomat friend checked with the
> International Civil Aviation Authority to get the manifest of aircraft
> movements in Havana for the departure times of Mugabe's aircraft and that of
> the president Jammeh.
>
> The arrival time of Mugabe in Harare is known since he gave an airport press
> conference yesterday morning on the Zimbabwe crisis. Please check with the
> BBC as to the time of arrival of Mugabe in Harare and also with your press
> friends who covered the G-77 meeting.
>
> It is very easy to confirm the departure times. This way, you can
> judge whether president Jammeh's pilot "gained time" which in our own
> estimation would be around three-four hours from the suspected departure
> time from Havana. The truth is that the president had to come earlier and
> unannounced because they are all panicked and they are also aware that
> things are not under control as yet.
>
> The news at 13:00 hrs yesterday mentioned for the first time since the
> events, the international condemnations of the events 10 April, including
> statements from the EU, Turkey, some eastern European countries. The
> decision to read the comdemnation on the news did not come as a surprise to
> most of us anyway, considering the pressure being exerted from all quarters,
> locally and internationally, on the Govt.
>
> And while the entire population anxiously awaited the president's speech,
> Sedat Jobe had announced his own news conference which, I learnt from some
> members of the press, that they will not attend. They want to hear from the
> president, and not Dr. Jobe. By the way, did you see President Jammeh thrash
> statement on the events of 10 April? Thank God, I didn't have to write it.
>
> By the way, today's Independent newpaper is very good. Andrew Jarju's
> interview is also good, including Demda Jawo's piece. It should be posted on
> the net later today. Be on the look out for it.
>
> And try to get the full paper for your archives. I can send it to you. I
> have just finished reading it. The pressure must continue to be applied on
> them.
>
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Dear Angelika:
Thanks for the note and good luck with your studies. Keep up the
struggle.
Abdoulaye
"A. P. Dampha" wrote:
>
> Dear Abdulaye,
>
> thank you very much for sending me the abstract vision 2020. I received it
> these days and read it immediately. In general I share your view. I would
> like to aply some other theories for some parts, but more details later. I
> am very limited in time as I have to prepare a lot for my current semester
> and exam.
>
> Did you ever read "Michal Porter, The Competitive Advantage of Nations"? I
> think it is a great work and gives a lot food for thought.
>
> I see that these days other topics prevail but we have to keep track with
> our goal to make the Gambia a better place to live.
>
> Kind Regards
> Angelika Prox Dampha
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Had to bring it down, due to the concerns raised regarding the method we are
using to e-mail the msgs to the various organisations. Please read my prior
e-mails suggesting a possible solution. Thanks
YN
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:34:41 +0200
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Yankuba,
First of all, I would like to applaud your efforts. The Website looks good. With
some pictures telling the message as they are, it will be a good beginning. When
I visited the Site at work, I sensed precisely what the Lady lamented over. But
still we can learn from our mistakes and make something positive out of them.
First, let us focus on the main issue; letting the petition serve its purpose. I
would suggest that you stop the single e-mail action for now. We should adopt
Momodou Camara' suggestion earlier, that is, ask all those who DO NOT wish to
have their e-mails appended to the petition to write a personal mail to you
within two days. By default, we can then assume that silence means accepting to
have your name appended. You can then liaise with the Gambia-L list managers
afterwards, to have a list of all subscribers. Delete those names which should
not appear, as requested, and send the petition with the list of signatories to
the list for members to scrutinize one more time; those whose names do not
appear can send you a private mail and those whose names have mistakenly been
appended can send a private mail for correction. On thursday (latest), the final
petition would have been ready to be dispatched to the addresses specified. This
version with names can then be stored at the Website for anyone who so wishes to
download, append further signatures by hand and use at local level. This will
take people who are not on the list into consideration.
The petition as it is now can be used as suggested indirectly by Catherine
Hampton. On the day when most people will take to the streets to demonstrate, we
can send individual mails to Jammeh, Gambian missions abroad who refused to
accept petitions from demonstrators etc.
On another note, it seems not all address provided by Buharry and others are
included in your list of addressees. Would it be possible to add the missing
ones?
Finally, I think we should reply to Catherine Hampton's mail. Can you or Momodou
Camara do this? (just a suggestion). I think we should apologise to her and the
Webmaster for overlooking this menace and explain that it was not our intention.
Also the message at the bottom of the mails sent from the Website:
"This letter protesting the senseless killing of innocent students and civilians
was submitted by alhagi njie ([log in to unmask]) on Monday, April 17, 2000 at
13:48:25" should in my opinion be deleted, as long as it is not a requirement
from the Webmanager.
Please consider the above as nothing more than suggestion.
Regards,
Alpha Robinson
Pope Pope wrote:
> Actually this was the idea, but perhaps in restropect appending the e-mail
> addresses would be a better idea. I can change the form to accomodate that.
> Just lemme know....
>
> Pope
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Subject: Analyses President's Speech
G-L'ers,
I analyze the President's speech and have detected, like most of us, the
Inconsistencies and contradiction that exits and to post it on the L
For your comments.
1.The opening and closing of the speech with bismilahi and asalamualaikum
Is design to enhance the image of Jammeh as a devout Muslim, which
Used to be appealing to Gambians; I don't know now.
2.The President, in his speech, decided to blame both the students and the
Security personell, unlike the Vice President and the secretary Mr
Badjie, who put the blame squarely on the students.
3.The Vice President and Secretary Badjie accused civilian infiltrators
As the murderers of the students but the President abstained from
Such finger pointing and instead indicated his governments
Intention to launch a full scale investigation leaving no stone
Unturned to get to the truth.
4. The President said that he was working with his government
As things were unfolding and happening back home whilst
Attending the G77 summit.
5. The President referred to the murdered students as death of young
People instead of the death of the students.
Jammeh has sacrificed the VP and Secretary Badjie by taking
A reconciliatory stand.
Jammeh said he was working with his government whilst events unfold
Which is a clear indication that he knows who gave the orders to murder
The students and would therefore require less time to get to the bottom
Of the investigation, which I believe should be done by independent
people
Outside the government to make it credible.
Jammeh express his deepest condolences and heartfelt sympathy to the
Families and relatives of the murdered students, which reminds me of
The behavior of rats in that whilst licking your feet they blow the feet
Inorder you not to feel it.
The whole speech is another Jammeh ploy.
Beran
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:14:51 EDT
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Sister Soffie,
I concur with you wholeheartedly. May be Tombong can forward this message
to his boss.
Thank You.
keep pressing on.
Matarr Sajaw.
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:18:30 -0500
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The GRO of Atlanta just launched their website today. Check the July4TH
section so you can make early preparations. This will be the most anticipated
4th of July Festival featuring performances from Alioune Mbaye Nder,
Senegal's hottest musician. Serious issues will be discoursed particularly
the Recent GAMSU massacre. We are all still mourning for this tragic event.
GOTO:
http://gambianreunion.org/
THANKS EVERYONE
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I am very glad to be a Gambian today. I want to simply say that the national
cry for democracy and justice for the victims of Jammeh''s brutal government
has been very impressive. Lets keep the movement alive. There is nothing to
fear. Victory for our people, freedom for our people. Come out in hundreds
and show the world your disgust with this undemocratic government. JAMMEH
MUST GO. DICTATORSHIP MUST GO. THE KILLING MUST END. THE ABUSES OF POWER MUST
END. FREEDOM FOR ALL. JUSTICE FOR ALL. PEACE FOR ALL.
We cannot let Jammeh drag the Gambia to become another Freetown. We must not
let anger guide our quest. We must do it with humility and tranquility.
NO VIOLENCE DURING THE DEMONSTRATIONS.. NO REFERENCE TO VIOLENCE.
PEACE MUST BE THE THEME JUSTICE MUST BECOME OUR MOTTO.
THANKS
MATARR SAJAW.
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Good job Yankuba. I think what Alpha and Momodou Camara suggested makes a lot
of sense. I just think we could give a lot more time than Alpha suggested so
that those who may not want their names on the mail could have time to write
and let us know.
Ousman Bojang.
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Hi!
A meeting was held yesterday, Sunday, 17th. April in Stockholm in =
response to the student killings in The Gambia. The following were =
agreed upon.
1. Another, better-planned meeting is scheduled for Sunday, April 23rd. =
The meeting starts at 16.00 Hrs. prompt. All funds collected up to that =
time should be presented at the meeting. (Again at AAG's locale, =
S=F6dermannag. 5, 1tr; -ent. code 2811 . T- MBG).
2. A Working Committee, slated to coordinate all work to be done, has =
been selected. It comprises of Landing Alkalo Sanyang, Momodou Alieu =
Darbo, Surahata Darbo, Momodou Buharry Gassama, and Modou Sidibeh.
3. A fund-raising campaign be immediately set in motion, first by all =
attendants to the meeting distributing donation coupons and collecting =
funds for eventual transfer to Gambia through Alpha Robinson. It was =
also agreed that the ICRC and Amnesty (Sweden) be involved in this =
campaign.
4. The protest letter document condemning the murder of demonstrators =
produced on Gambia-L be rewritten and updated as and when necessary and =
be adressed to The Gambia's general consul in stockholm, Stockholm, =
Amnesty (Sweden), the Swedish Foreign Ministry. It should also be sent =
to selected Gambian authorities.
5. It was agreed that a mass demonstration be staged on Wednesday 26th =
at Sergel Torg, from 17.30 hrs. onwards. Hand bills will be distributed =
in the square.
6. Collections were taken at the meeting bringing the total collected so =
far to 4, 659 Swedish Kronor.
=
Buharry.
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<DIV>Hi!</DIV>
<DIV> A meeting was held yesterday, Sunday, 17th. =
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<DIV>1. Another, better-planned meeting is scheduled for Sunday, April =
23rd. The=20
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should=20
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1tr; -ent.=20
code 2811 . T- MBG).</DIV>
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has been=20
selected. It comprises of Landing Alkalo Sanyang, Momodou Alieu =
Darbo,=20
Surahata Darbo, Momodou Buharry Gassama, and Modou Sidibeh.</DIV>
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all=20
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funds for=20
eventual transfer to Gambia through Alpha Robinson. It was also =
agreed=20
that the ICRC and Amnesty (Sweden) be involved in this campaign.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>4. The protest letter document condemning the murder of =
demonstrators=20
produced on Gambia-L be rewritten and updated as and when necessary and =
be=20
adressed to The Gambia's general consul in stockholm, Stockholm, Amnesty =
(Sweden), the Swedish Foreign Ministry. It should also be sent to =
selected=20
Gambian authorities.</DIV>
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<DIV>5. It was agreed that a mass demonstration be staged on Wednesday =
26th at=20
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the=20
square.</DIV>
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collected so=20
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Soffie,
Yes, we heard about how the cowards at the Gambian Embassy in Washington did
not show up for work or locked themselves in when they knew there would be a
demonstration. They are just continuing the practice that their boss and his
thugs are doing at home, hiding from the people. However, they cannot hide
forever, and if they are as innocent as they claim, then whay are they
hiding? I suggest this letter be mailed to the State House, as well as to the
embassy in D.C. Keep up the good work.
Jabou Joh
In a message dated 4/17/00 9:54:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< We were unable to deliver this letter to the Ambassador on Friday, the 14th
of April for delivery to Butcher of Kanilai. No one answered the door.
Soffie
The President,
The Republic of the Gambia
President's Office
Banjul, The Gambia
13 April, 2000
We have no courteous salutation to address you by in this letter. Our
intent is to express our utmost disgust at you and your gang of senseless
mercenary thugs who murdered our gallant and young students.
Like always, it does ta >>
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:10:31 PDT
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MSSidibeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mr. Ndow,
Well, it may be just a coincidence.
Just yesterday at a Gambian meeting here in Stockholm, someone who was
present and active in those late 60s demonstrations assured me that the
name of the student who was deported to Senegal is Alassan Ben Sarr.
Perhaps you can confirm that?
Sidibeh
Sidibeh, your're right, I understand Jawara apologise to him in Atlanta w=
here
he's an assistant Imam. You guys have a nice Easter.
Chi Jama
Daddy Sang
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From: Emmanuel N'Dow <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: UPDATE]]
Prince Obrien-Coker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Daddy Sang,
Just a reminder: The late Eku Mahoney was the Commander of the Riot Squad=
then. He read his inaudible "riot act" but every stayed put and then All
Hell
broke loose. For most of us it more like a "flow". The "Agogo" season wa=
s
over and we were bored
At the fore-front were also people like Junkunda Daffeh, Saul and Charles=
Jarra, Alassan Sarr, Bai-Mass Taal, Saga Taal and Momodou Sedat Jobe . Ye=
s,
the very Dr. Saga Taal who is today the Secretary General of Jammeh and
Sedat-Jobe. In Aku the saying for these kind of people is: "Oya, fine boy=
turn
makalo". It was Momodou Sedat Jobe who translated Senghore's speech in th=
e
"Kent Street Vous" journal that caused all that uproar. Today, he is the
foreign secretary of one of the most despotic regimes.
Prince
Beola, thanks for the additional info, the demonstration you refer to
occurred
the next day near Quadrangle in from the Department of education,I was
working
at the Income Tax Office then. Eku Mahoney along with my causin Edu Gomez=
were
the commanding officers in charge. Do you remember the name of the fellow=
they
arrested that day?, I could only remember his last name Cham. After he wa=
s
arrested, they claimed that he was not born in the Gambia and that he sho=
uld
be deported. Charles Jow(RIP) intervene with then minister of education I=
=2EM
Garba Jahumpha. Whatever became of that fellow do you know? He was in the=
sixth form then.
Three years later, we were in Boston, Bai-Mass Taal, Matarr and Adi Njie =
and
I
remenising about it and how they made them march under the hot sun at Dep=
ot
as
part of their punishment especially for Bai-Mass and Pa Joof(laugh) In al=
l
this nobody lost their life, Jammeh should take a lesson from that.
Daddy Sang
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Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: UPDATE]
kuts <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mr Saidy,
You might not know this but there was a similar
demonstration in 1971 in which all the schools in Banjul and environs
participitated. The police were unable to control us,they had to call f=
or
help from the Field Force,who were able to control the situation after
several hours!!I can't remember any serious injuries ,there were certai=
nly
no fatalities!! The "Deporians" were illitirate but they were definatel=
y
not
PHILISTINES!!
KUTS
I participated in that demonstration, it began opposit Gambia High Scho=
ol
and
it was staged to protest President Senghore's speech in which he accus=
ed
the
Gambia of causing Senegal's economic woes. Senghore was on a stste visi=
t
to
the Gambia and the demonstration was lead by Crispin Grey Johnson, Koro=
Sallah
and some members of the "Kent Street Vous" along with Lena Manga then o=
n
holidays from the U.S; I was not arrested but my friend Pa Joof of fame=
Soto
Koto Vous was; yes kuts your're right the field force were called in bu=
t
nobody got killed either. It seems to me though illiterate, the field
force
understood freedom of speech better than these "sheep in wool clothing"=
i.e
thugs mascarading as soldiers. Tombong you might want to visit the achi=
ves
to
that demonstration, you might learn a thing or two about civil
disobediance
and how to deal with it.
Daddy Sang
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From: alfusainey bah <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: UPDATE
> hey Tombong,
> It is very sad that you are using this tragic accassion to tell us ab=
out
the
> "good things" that Jammeh did for the youths of the Gambia. What a
shame.
> I have a question that has been lingering in me since i read press
releases
> from the defence secretary. If the students had guns with life
ammunitions
> with them, how come there was no security personnel among the dead?
> God Bless and Peace Be Upon All.
> Alasana Bah
>
> >From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: UPDATE
> >Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 01:16:16 PDT
> >
> >Gambia-l,
> >
> >As I promised, I would provide information on the ground, after whic=
h I
> >will
> >give my analysis of the whole situation.
> >
> >NUMBER OF DECEASED
> >
> >According to the authorities at RVH, the first patients were receive=
d
at
> >around 11:00 A.M. on Monday, 10 April 2000. There was a total of 96
> >patients
> >seen and all were treated accordingly with a total admission of 28 f=
rom
> >Greater Banjul area and 3 from Essau making a total 0f 31. 11 have b=
een
> >discharged leaving a balance of 20. With regards to the Central
Division
> >area (Bansang Hospital) there were seven reported cases.
> >
> >The total number of death recorded in RVH were 11 and one reported f=
rom
> >Bansang Hospital giving a total death toll of 12. So far 11 bodies w=
ere
> >identified including the one from Bansang. There is still one
unidentified
> >body at the RVH, that of a young male teenager.
> >
> >DECEASED REGISTERED
> >
> ># NAME AGE PROF. ADD/SCH. NATLTY
> >
> >1. Gibi Njie - Student Nusrat Gambian
> >2. Karamo Barrow 24 Student ICE H.S Gambian
> >3. Mohamed L. Chune 15 Student LK School Gambian
> >4. Lamin A Bojang 19 Student Nusrat Gambian
> >5. Ousman Sabally Student Brikamaba Gambian
> >6. Omar Barrow 25 Journalist Latrikunda Gambian
> >7. Ablie Sajaw 3 Child N. Jeshwang Prsume Gambian
> >8. Bubacar Badgie 10 Student Talingding ------------=
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> >9. Calisco Prera 20 Civilian N. Jeshwang Not Gambian
> >10. Reginald Carrol 25 Student 7 Grand St. Sierra Leone=
an
> >11. Wuyeh Mansally 19 Student Talingding Senegalese
> >12. Unidentified Teenager
> >
> >Contrary to Ebrima Ceesay's source, the bodies are being released as=
> >relatives claim them. There are not decomposing bodies and there was=
no
> >order from President Jammeh or any one else for the bodies to be kep=
t
until
> >the President's return. Ebrima's source also claimed that there are =
"14
> >confirmed dead in the mortuary" and this is not true. Ebrima, could =
you
> >please asked your source or any body else to come up with the names =
of
the
> >remaining two death bodies.
> >
> >PATIENTS ADMITTED IN RVH
> >
> >NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS/SCHOOL
> >
> >1. Allasan Suwareh Student Banjul Academy
> >2. Musa Sembeh 3 yrs old child Serrekunda
> >3. Yusupha Mbye Student Pipeline Comprehensi=
ve
> >4. Francis Correa Businessman Serrekunda
> >5. Pa Demba Camara Civilian Kanifing
> >6. Seeday Jobe Civilian Senegalese
> >7. Bakary Singateh Civilian Latrikunda Sabiji
> >8. Ousman Jobarteh Student Sepps
> >9. Sering Ceesay Civilian non Gambian Mbolgou (Near Kaur)
> >10. Yankuba Darboe Fire Officer Bakau Statio=
n
> >11. Pa Ansu Jarjue Student Forsters (Nema Kunku=
)
> >12. Lamin Touray Civilian, ex GHS Brufut (now residing at
> >
> > New Jeshwang)
> >13. Momodou Ceesay Trader Dippakunda
> >14. Bakary Njie Student Pipeline Comprehensi=
ve
> >15. Wuyeh Fatty Arabic Student Talinding
> >16. Baba Suwareh Student Crab Island/ Ebo Tow=
n
> >17. John Gomez Student GTTI / Ebo Town
> >18. Omar Sosseh Student St. A.H.S/ New Primet St
> >19. Sulayman Krubally Student GTTI/Sancha-Sulay Jo=
be
> >20. Sana Bojang Civilian New Jeshwang=
> >21. Haddy Camara Student Ebeneezer High Schoo=
l
> >22. Sainabou Camara Student Bakoteh High School
> >23. Abdou Karim Janneh Student Sheikh Mass Kah
> >24. Francis Mendy Student St. Agustine's H. School
> >25. Alasan Jammeh Civilian Talingding
> >26. Momodou Lamin Magassi Guard Comm's Office Brikama
> >27. Oumie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >28. Amie Jagne Civilian Kanifing
> >29. Baboucarr Bahoum Student Essau High School
> >30. S. Senghore Student Essau High School
> >31. Modou Joof Student Essau High School
> >
> >REPORTED CASES SEEN IN KMC & WD
> >
> >Serrekunda Health Centre 79 Cases
> >Brikama Health Centre 31 Cases
> >Fagi-Kunda Health Centre 8 Cases
> >Bakau Health Centre 10 Cases
> >
> >TOTAL 128 Cases
> >
> >The above were treated and released.
> >
> >
> >PRESS RELEASE
> >
> >As Attorney General and Secretary of State for Justice, it is my
> >constitutional duty to balance two equally valid, but often competin=
g,
> >principles:
> >
> >i. the need to ensure that anyone who breaks the law is called to
answer
> >for
> >it;
> >
> >ii. and that in so doing the accused person must be accorded a fair
> >hearing.
> >
> >The latter means that the accused can only be arrested and later
convicted
> >if there is sufficient evidence to warrant it.
> >
> >The sad events of the last few days deserve a response from the
Department
> >of State for Justice in line with the dual constitutional role outli=
ned
> >above.
> >
> >In line with the Government's commitment to the principles of
transparency
> >and accountability, and having regard to the fact that justice must =
not
> >only
> >be done, but it must be seen to be done, I have invoked my powers un=
der
> >section 11(1) of the Coroner's Act, Cap 7.04, and an application is
> >simultaneously being lodged with the Chief Justice to order that an
inquest
> >be held touching on the death of any persons as a result of the even=
ts
of
> >the 10th and 11th April 2000.
> >
> >The purpose of the inquest is, of course, to establish whether or no=
t
an
> >offence has been committed by any person, known or unknown.
> >
> >As for the case of Ebrima Barry (deceased), an information will be
filed
in
> >the course of next week.
> >
> >In view of the fact that the credibility of our criminal justice sys=
tem
is
> >itself on trial, the Attorney General will take the unusual step of
> >appointing a Public Prosecutor under section 65 of the Criminal
Procedure
> >Code. The Gambia Bar Association, the family of the deceased, friend=
s
of
> >justice (at home or abroad) are invited to suggest names of lawyers,=
(both
> >at home and abroad) who can satisfactorily conduct the prosecution o=
f
the
> >alleged murders of Ebrima Barry.
> >
> >The Attorney General's Chambers will provide logical support; but wi=
ll
> >otherwise do nothing to divert or influence the prosecutor.
> >
> >The State will, however only be responsible for meeting the cost of
local
a
> >prosecutor.
> >
> >As for the case of Binta, the Attorney General's Chambers is
handicapped
by
> >the absence of identification of the alleged culprits.
> >
> >
> >Alhaji Cheyassin O. Secka
> >Attorney General & Secretary of State
> >For Justice
> >
> >Attorney General's Chambers &
> >Department of State for Justice
> >Maummar Ghadaffi Avenue
> >Banjul
> >
> >13 April, 2000
> >
> >
> >
> >Above are the facts from official sources, however I have my take on=
this
> >whole issue. Since my arrival, I have consulted and spoken to both
sides
of
> >the fence and believe me there are a lot of blame to go around.
> >
> >April 10th 2000 is one of the darkest day in the history of The Gamb=
ia,
> >surpassed only by the events of July 31st, 1981 - the KUKOI FIASCO. =
I
join
> >all members of the list to express my sympathy and condolence to the=
> >families, friend, and loved ones of the bereaved. This is a sad even=
t
that
> >could have been avoided both by the Security and the Students.
> >
> >The Gambia is a democratic country and the students have the
constitutional
> >right to demonstrate peacefully. However, in every democracy there a=
re
laws
> >and all demonstrators must seek or obtain some form of permit from a=
given
> >authority, usually the local police. GAMSU never applied for a permi=
t
> >according to the authorities. The Department of State for the Interi=
or
sent
> >a press release on Friday April 7, 2000 to all media houses includin=
g
GRTS
> >claiming that they have received information on a potential strike
being
> >organised by the Student Union (GAMSU). They warned students to seek=
> >permission and that the security will not take any unauthorised
> >demonstration lightly (I do not have the press release in front of m=
e,
so
I
> >am paraphrasing) . The student could have simply applied for a permi=
t,
and
> >they would have been given the permit. On Saturday April 8 and Sunda=
y
April
> >9, some members of the GAMSU Executive met with some Secretaries of
States
> >and discussed the whole matter. There was an agreement for GAMSU
Executive
> >to meet with the Vice President at 9:30 A.M on Monday April 10 since=
the
> >President will not in the country. They demanded an escort for the
> >Executive
> >from the GTTI to StateHouse.
> >
> >On Monday morning, the Army Chief of Staff and the Secretary of Stat=
e
for
> >the Interior went to GTTI for further discuss with the student and t=
o
> >escort
> >them to Banjul for the agreed meeting with the Vice President. It wa=
s
> >during
> >this time that things started to get out of hand. Apparently some GA=
MSU
> >Executives were reluctant to go to the said meeting for various
reasons.
> >
> >While the Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Badgie were
negotiating,
> >some GAMSU Members started forcing students from school buses into
GTTI.
> >The
> >Police Intervention Unit came with batons and shields and all hell
broke
> >loose. I believe the security should and could have contained things=
and
> >this would have limited the damaged done. The demonstrations were
emanating
> >from different fronts and in most places the demonstrators out numbe=
red
the
> >police and the Intervention Unit. While commotion ensued at GTTI,
students
> >began attacking Kotu Police and Fire Station, Bundung Police, Brikam=
a
> >Police, Fagikunda Gamtel, West Field Gamtel, Standard Bank and
everything
> >within their reach that is identified with Government. However, the
> >majority
> >of the students wanted a peaceful demonstration, but some non-studen=
ts
> >seized the opportunity brought by the chaotic situation to loot,
destroy
> >private and public properties, banks etc.
> >
> >The army came after a lot of destruction has already taken place.
Soldiers
> >came armed, however when the police stations were being destroyed,
> >prisoners
> >were released in the process, especially at the Serrekunda Police an=
d
the
> >armouries broken in to. The police carry very few arms and individua=
ls,
> >mostly criminal elements and civilians took them. As a matter of fac=
t
some
> >civilians have been apprehended with arms and they are under custody=
=2E
> >
> >Live bullets were used and this resulted in the number of deaths and=
> >injuries. There are all kings of claims and counter claims about who=
stated
> >the shooting and who was carrying live bullets. The Secretary of Sat=
e
for
> >the Interior denied the fact that the armed forces used live bullets=
=2E
The
> >Commission of Enquiry that will be set up to investigate this event
will
> >verify this. However, the strange thing about this whole matter is t=
hat
not
> >single security official was reported shot while a lot of unarmed
students
> >were shot and brutally killed. The security has a lot explaining to =
do.
> >
> >The attacking of the Standard Bank at West Field, International Bank=
of
> >Commerce in Serrekunda, the looting of shops and supermarkets were
> >generally
> >done by criminal elements who join the demonstration for their own
ends.
A
> >lot of foreigners and non-students were reported to be part of this
whole
> >fiasco.
> >
> >Radio 1 FM, Sud FM and even GRTS Radio did not help the situation wi=
th
> >their
> >phone-in programmes. Instead they added fuel to the fire and their
action
> >has caused more havoc than good. In such a chaotic situation, having=
a
> >phone
> >in programme for every side to be venting their anger was not a good=
idea.
> >All sorts of things, insults, misinformation, you named it were bein=
g
said
> >over the air and that was why they were all ordered to stop the
phone-in
> >programmes by the security. This was a justified action by the
security.
> >
> >The students had a justified reason to demonstrate, however it went
beyond
> >their control when other non-students joined in. The security was il=
l
> >prepared and overwhelmed and as a result they too over reacted.
> >
> >
> >The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the
> >handling
> >of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The=
> >critics
> >could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more=
for
> >Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters t=
o
> >Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them b=
y
> >providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds
around
> >the
> >country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them comput=
ers
for
> >their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van=
> >(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own
telecentres
> >(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are ju=
st
a
> >few
> >of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
> >University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to
power.
> >Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time=
in
the
> >history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is ve=
ry
> >unfair.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >PEACE
> >
> >Tombong
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:20:49 -0500
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Subject: AN OPEN LETTER TO YAYA JAMMEH
Yaya,
As you are well aware the Nation is in mourning following the atrocious
massacre of our future presidents, ministers, accountants, doctors......
Upon your arrival in the Gambia, you declared a seven day national mourning
for the people who have died. Please I must hasten to tell you the
declaration in the first place is a shame on you and you government because
it was not a natural disaster but acts perpetrated by human beings which
could have been prevented.
I sincerely believe that what Gambians were expecting to hear from you were
answers not declarations.They are expecting answers to questions such as who
ordered the killings? Why were live bullets used? Should the massacre could
have been prevented? Some of your CO-conspirators have already tried to
shroud the truth from being known to the Gambian people such as your vice
president and the interior secretary but they failed to convince Gambian
people. The questions asked earlier must be answered to the Gambian people.
Following your unlawful coup in the Gambia in July 1994, you have been
bragging to the Gambian people and the international community that not even
a chicken died in your coup as you spoke to Georgie Anne Geyer of Universal
Press Syndicate in Kansas city, MO. in the following quote "When I came to
power, it was unconstitutional means, but I had no other alternative. In my
coup, not even a chicken died.It was a bloodless coup against a dictator who
had not built a road in 30 years." Oh really?
Every Gambian now know that even the birds are dying let alone human beings.
Your credibility is all shattered and Gambians have lost confidence in you
and your government.There is nothing left but honorably resign and accept
responsibility for what has happened.Those who did the killings were hopeful
that your government will sit on the truth as you did in many other cases
that was why they did what they did. Please resign and free all political
prisoners and those students who are arrested.
Mori Kebba Jammeh
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Hi Mr Kanteh,
Sorry I could not reply back to your email much earlier. As it's easter
break, am back at work.
I have not been informed of any change of dates. As far as I know, the agreed
date is the 25th.
There are about 85 emails for me to read so maybe somewhere among them will be a
notification to
that effect.
With regards to the guy who lives in the outskirts of Portsmouth, if you email me
his details I shall
contact him and put him in touch with Cham or Touray and the rest of the guys in
Portsmouth.
I had a meeting with a few of them on Saturday, some had reservations about
taking part in the
demo as they are worried about their folks' welfare back home. I told them that I
understood and also
respected that wish. They will come to the demo never the less, but will not
disclose their identities to
anyone. Fair enough.
Please keep me posted of developments. I have got access to my email at work, but
as I was the field
engineer today, I could not read them. I will be late in replying back to emails
for will be the field engineer
for the next two weeks, and as such the only time I might be able to reply back
to emails will late evenings.
Manneh
Hamjatta Kanteh wrote:
> Gambia-L UK Subscribers,
> fellow UK residents it has come to my attention late yesterday that word
> is flying around that the demo date has been changed from 25 April to the 2nd
> of May. Could Ndembos, Dave Manneh, Ziz or any other player for that matter
> confirm this. May be the Jammeh disinformation service is already in our
> midst!
> during meetings I've had with Berkshire Gambians, I 've already informed
> them of the 25th. April date and many of the discussions on the Internet and
> the universal uprising against the Jammeh Fascism. it is prudent that we have
> definite plans in store by Wednesday if we are gonna have the demo on the
> 25th of April so the word can reach all corners of the disparate Gambian
> community. also those i have managed to reach, have shown their desire to
> contribute both in cash and kind and are looking forward to contribute
> whatever they can towards the funds being collected for Jammeh's victims. so
> it is about time we arrange or finally iron out the remaining wrinkles that
> are left with the bank account issue.
> also Dave Manneh there is a bloke living in the outskirts of the
> Portsmouth area who so dearly would love to be in touch with the rest of the
> Portsmouth students/community. please any suggestions would help. and could
> we hear both you and Ndembos' updates cos I'm made to understand that there
> has been a big meeting in London yesterday.
> Fellow UK subscribers lets pass the word and strike whilst the iron is still
> hot. The decency and sense of belonging that our forebears worked so hard for
> in the Gambia is being insidiously supplanted by a very vicious form of
> Fascism. Fascism must be uprooted and not appeased!
> Good Morning
> Hamjatta Kanteh
>
> hkanteh
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:12:53 EDT
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The POINT have again shown what journalism is all about. It has objectively
reported what the students are actually saying and not what any government
agency dare to say. The facts are coming.
Students Narrate Their Ordeal
Students, mainly girls, of the GTTI have said that they were attacked and
brutalised at the institute. The late Omar Barrow was also heard live
reporting on the treatment meted out to the students on that bloody Monday.
Some girls have contacted this paper to narrate their ordeal.
Ms. E.T. explained that following some plea from their teachers, they decided
to postpone their demonstration and sit to the exam.
As they were in class, they suddenly saw the paramilitary personnel in the
classes, asking everyone out including lecturers.
"They even destroyed computers and other equipment in the school; the boys
were smarter than us and some of them escaped by jumping the fence."
A.C. said: "we were seriously beaten at the quarters of the paramilitary in
Kanifing. They used their batons, gun butts and shoes."
Another girl, E.S. also maintained that she was beaten. She explained that
they were in the typing lab when they saw the paras at the door. "They
ordered us out and assaulted us, with some of our lecturers, who ran away and
left us there at their mercy.
We were taken to the Kanifing headquarters and treated like beasts."
S.G. also confirmed the use of force on her as was the case with the other
girls. "The Gambian defence forces have no respect for the girl-child.
Following our mistreatment, we were filmed and our names were taken," S.G.
further explained.
The girls also claimed that they received so much beating, their buttocks got
sore and swollen.
On how they were freed, they said it happened when the students attacked the
headquarters with stones and the paras started to open fire on the attackers.
"In the confusion that ensued, we ran to some compounds nearby and changed
clothes."
Asked whether they sought medical assistance, they said they are terrified
and are still under severe shock.
Another student, S.O. also claimed that he was beaten at the Brikama police
station. He explained that he was on board a transport when police officers
and former members of July 22 Movement ordered him to come down.
He was arrested when he displayed his student ID, and was taken to the police
station where she met other students. They were all severely beaten, he said.
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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 23:39:58 EDT
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Pope,
I think collecting and appending the names is fine. We can even send those as
emails, followed by hard copies sent by snail mail.
Jabou
I have disabled the Petiton page till further notice because I think these
are legitimate concerns that have been raised here. Only wished I had
thought about that (should have known better). Anyways I apolozise for any
set back this might have caused us. Perhaps I can modify the form to collect
names and e-mail addresses and maybe after a week or two we can append all
the names and to the petition letter and then send it by regular mail. Again
I'll volunteer to do this both time and resource wise. Let me know what you
think. In the mean time I'll work on an apology letter to send to these
organizations.
Pope
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Ousman,
This is a clear indication that there has been
lots of human right violations and this is why I have
been trying my best to get amnesty involved,but it
seem like some people are more worrried about
investigating my efforts than trying to establish
credible contact.The gambian Org.in Marietta needs to
show leadership if they have any in a crisis
situation.
--- Ousman Bojang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> The POINT have again shown what journalism is all
> about. It has objectively
> reported what the students are actually saying and
> not what any government
> agency dare to say. The facts are coming.
> Students Narrate
> Their Ordeal
>
>
> Students, mainly girls, of the GTTI have said that
> they were attacked and
> brutalised at the institute. The late Omar Barrow
> was also heard live
> reporting on the treatment meted out to the students
> on that bloody Monday.
>
> Some girls have contacted this paper to narrate
> their ordeal.
>
> Ms. E.T. explained that following some plea from
> their teachers, they decided
> to postpone their demonstration and sit to the exam.
>
> As they were in class, they suddenly saw the
> paramilitary personnel in the
> classes, asking everyone out including lecturers.
>
> "They even destroyed computers and other equipment
> in the school; the boys
> were smarter than us and some of them escaped by
> jumping the fence."
>
> A.C. said: "we were seriously beaten at the quarters
> of the paramilitary in
> Kanifing. They used their batons, gun butts and
> shoes."
>
> Another girl, E.S. also maintained that she was
> beaten. She explained that
> they were in the typing lab when they saw the paras
> at the door. "They
> ordered us out and assaulted us, with some of our
> lecturers, who ran away and
> left us there at their mercy.
>
> We were taken to the Kanifing headquarters and
> treated like beasts."
>
> S.G. also confirmed the use of force on her as was
> the case with the other
> girls. "The Gambian defence forces have no respect
> for the girl-child.
> Following our mistreatment, we were filmed and our
> names were taken," S.G.
> further explained.
>
> The girls also claimed that they received so much
> beating, their buttocks got
> sore and swollen.
>
> On how they were freed, they said it happened when
> the students attacked the
> headquarters with stones and the paras started to
> open fire on the attackers.
> "In the confusion that ensued, we ran to some
> compounds nearby and changed
> clothes."
>
> Asked whether they sought medical assistance, they
> said they are terrified
> and are still under severe shock.
>
> Another student, S.O. also claimed that he was
> beaten at the Brikama police
> station. He explained that he was on board a
> transport when police officers
> and former members of July 22 Movement ordered him
> to come down.
>
> He was arrested when he displayed his student ID,
> and was taken to the police
> station where she met other students. They were all
> severely beaten, he said.
>
>
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Rene,
As you rightly pointed out peace should be the watch word. Some of us who
can
remember the tragic events of July 30, 1981, need not even refer to the
violence in
Sierra Leon; we had mass graves, we had massive looting, women were raped and
maimed. In that short period food was short and people no longer had a choice
of
food. So for those us who remember we know what peace is and what it is not.
For the Gambia to degenerate to the Sierra Leonean civil war situation, may
God
forbit,is something all of us should guard against
. Like you said, the horror depicted
in that video recording will and should never be allowed to happen in our
beloved
country, I wish and hope that Gambian hearts are not hardened to that level of
callousness..
We should be resolute on pursing our goals through peaceful means as far as
possible. Peaceful and non violent causes have won victories at a time when a
revolutionary medium like the Internet was not put in place.
Talking about the internet,Jammeh and his cohorts are yet to comprehend the
might
of this media. Can you imagine how things would have been different in this
particular
situation without this instrument? All Gambians in various countries are
talking to each other like if we are all under one roof, this reality makes
all dictators an
obsolete species. Let us all use this opportunity to expose this regime and
make it
succumb to its knees.
But before I end this write-up I want to call your attention to the
inherent violent nature
of Jammeh's regime. Since he came to power he has killed, abducted and
tortured
Gmbians to further his own cause. He is pushing Gambians to the wall every day
if they finally reach the wall, which is not far, anything can happen...I
just read a post-
ing on the list which mentioned that people in Mansa Konko have vowed to burn
down the town
if the police should go about arresting their children.
But with all the volatility of the situation let us work hard and direct
the present movement on a peaceful path.
Gibril Gelajo Bah
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Regret to announce the death of our uncle Kebba Njie.Uncle Kebba was a
veteran trade unionist who was president of Gambia transport and allied
workers union and has all his life in trade union activities.He was the
first person to start a motor driving school in The Gambia as far as i
could remember.Our Condolences to the family. Mya his soul rest in
perfect peace.
It is also with deep regret that i announce the death of our dear and
faithful wife Haddy Bobb previously known as Julia Bobb. She was a
teacher a Marina School.Haddy was married to our good friend Ellima A
.S. P. Sarr of Gloucester Street. She passed away yester night and was
buried this morning.Our condolences to Eliman and the entire Sarr
family, The Bobb family of lancaster and perseverance, Fowlish family
and all relatives and friends both at home and abroad. May her soul rest
in perfect peace.
Chi Jamma.
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Buharry,
You people are doing a wonderful job.This is what it takes to be a human
being.
This incident seems to be very quite and cold in Gothenburg, and I am
requesting for the petion and donation form to be distributed to the main
cities and towns of Sweden.The imam of the Gambian mosque in Gothenburg was
in Stockholm during the meeting,and think you could hand him a copy of some
of these papers.
Because of the communication defficulties,I will aslo suggest that you open
an account were we can post our donations.
I salute you all in your endeavours. May the Almighty give us more strength
for togetherness and love for mankind.
Yahya
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>Hi!
> A meeting was held yesterday, Sunday, 17th. April in Stockholm in
>response to the student killings in The Gambia. The following were agreed
>upon.
>
>1. Another, better-planned meeting is scheduled for Sunday, April 23rd. The
>meeting starts at 16.00 Hrs. prompt. All funds collected up to that time
>should be presented at the meeting. (Again at AAG's locale, Södermannag. 5,
>1tr; -ent. code 2811 . T- MBG).
>
>2. A Working Committee, slated to coordinate all work to be done, has been
>selected. It comprises of Landing Alkalo Sanyang, Momodou Alieu Darbo,
>Surahata Darbo, Momodou Buharry Gassama, and Modou Sidibeh.
>
>3. A fund-raising campaign be immediately set in motion, first by all
>attendants to the meeting distributing donation coupons and collecting
>funds for eventual transfer to Gambia through Alpha Robinson. It was also
>agreed that the ICRC and Amnesty (Sweden) be involved in this campaign.
>
>4. The protest letter document condemning the murder of demonstrators
>produced on Gambia-L be rewritten and updated as and when necessary and be
>adressed to The Gambia's general consul in stockholm, Stockholm, Amnesty
>(Sweden), the Swedish Foreign Ministry. It should also be sent to selected
>Gambian authorities.
>
>5. It was agreed that a mass demonstration be staged on Wednesday 26th at
>Sergel Torg, from 17.30 hrs. onwards. Hand bills will be distributed in the
>square.
>
>6. Collections were taken at the meeting bringing the total collected so
>far to 4, 659 Swedish Kronor.
>
>
> Buharry.
>
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Friends,=20
a long comment on the situation.
I=B4m very glad to see that the protests world wide is running the right
direction. I think that the idea of putting all the Gambia-L=B4s names on a
petition and protest is a good idea. (Those who don=B4t want their names on
the list must give notice)
But I=B4m also looking further than that to see how you will "unite" in
actions for a new future or a change in political leadership in the country=
.
Will your reaction now be the "glue" that keeps you together in future
actions, or will you step by step "divide" when it comes to means of action=
,
visions for the future. I=B4m asking, because I believe that the students who
gave their life deserve the best we can give them. Over the years (from =B479=
)
I by coincident has been friend to some gambians, who has tried to change
politics, so I have also seen things happen before and repeat.
I think you can pick on Mr. Saidy as much as you like, but as you are all
aware and stressing you see him as a representative of the sitting
government and President and as "part of the establishment", and no matter
what he brings or not, we will again and again question the information. An=
d
we have to do. Every stone must be turned. But we are also "depending" on
such "official information". If we force him to stop giving information the
more we will have to do our own investigations. Even you all have relatives
and friends inside, and we have access to many information-sources, we als=
o
need the official ones to look upon the situation from that official point
of view. My observation in his "update" was, that he went exactly as long a=
s
you can expect the authorities in the Gambia can go, when he admitted that
there were "failures" on both sides. I see it as the closest you can come t=
o
admit that the military and police went out of control, handled the
situation wrongly, without saying it openly and directly. The Presidents
address follows the same track, and the "sightseeing tour" for the foreign
diplomats is the same.
As I said yesterday, I expected such an tragic incident could happen
sooner or later, simply because I have seen something like this before. Whe=
n
I paid visit to The Gambia in December, and compared my personal
observations with the situation two years earlier combined with the
information given f.in. on Gambia -L, I could see something I have seen
before. Some years back I twice visited Romania under Ceaucescu . In
Bucharest like in Banjul/Serekunda/Baku/Brikama there were soldiers on
every street-corner. People were stopped, searched, even harassed, though
they were just walking the streets. I found the same thing happen in The
Gambia. Plenty of road-stops for what reason ? Some of my friends and other
people without any reason stopped and provoked in the streets, without doin=
g
anything that could invite police or military to stop them. Cars were
stopped all the time, papers controlled while one-two military asked
aggressively not politely (my observation), pointing guns. Two times I felt
threatened, and I were just a friendly tourist visiting my gambian friends,
like I some years earlier were a tourist in Romania. It=B4s a "strange
feeling" when you travel in a country and become nervous every time you pas=
s
an uniform or a road-stop, even you have done nothing to fear from! I
thought this was a result of a kind of presidential paranoia or a way of
keeping ordinary people in control by fear. Or was it just "small" people i=
n
uniform, who hidden behind the uniform tried to oppress, provoke and harass
neighbors. History showed us what happened in Romania (or East-Germany),
when you build your powers on oppression and control. The day people has
got enough, they overcome their fear, and you can remember the TV-pictures,
when people dragged the parliament-members out into the streets of Buchares=
t
and just killed them with their bare hands and left them lying there. No
government can built a nation on oppression and fear. It will lead to
hatred. That is what I meant when I was saying that the "anger/hatred" amon=
g
the youth has now come to the surface in the Gambia.
Some of my friends are young and have expressed their anger and
disappointment the past 2-3 years. When Mr. Tombong Saidy refer to the
Presidents "disappointment with the youth", I think it=B4s because when he
(Jammeh) came into power, many youth in him saw a new era, a new start, ne=
w
possibilities. I still keep letters from my young gambian friends , in whic=
h
they express their expectations for a new era when president Jammeh took
power. And its also from them, I over the past 2-3 years can read their
disappointment with the leadership. So according to some of my friends the
President has lost his "youth-bastion" among the students (if he has ever
had one). Now his army and police are "hunting" the youth, the young
students - WHY ? Is it because education and knowledge is the most powerful
instrument you have ? The more you come to learn, the more you put two and
two together, the more you understand, you come to understand political
leadership (or lack of it), social injustice and so on. And then you start
questioning. The President should know that when he set up an educational
program, he also invite to and must accept it leads to more awareness and
with that critics. And critics can not just be put aside, but has to be met
positive and wisely.
I=B4m glad that Foroya again tells not only the leaders but at the same time
the people what are their constitutional and legal rights. That is also a
"weapon" and not only rhetoric. We all saluted the results from the
Senegalese presidential election by saying that now the Senegalese people
has shown to the world that things can be changed in an African state by
ballot. Some of you even hoped for the same could happen in The Gambia. If
we want support from "outside", if we want to show up a new standard for
leadership, it=B4s important that we again and again can demonstrate, that we
did exactly according to the laws and constitution, we fought with legal
means of action, but the government/President/authorities failed to do the
same. If we want to be taken serious, we have to act "cool" and strict, eve=
n
our hearts and sentiments tell us, that we want to meet the dictatorship
with it=B4s own means. The young and innocent students and children and their
families, like many suffering families in The Gambia deserve action, and
maybe the tyrants can only be fought with weapons, but we still need to
react civilized, then you will gain respect and start a new "culture of
political leadership". But we got to remember that there is a difference to
sit outside and live inside. Like in Romania there is also a limit, a line
in the sand drawn by the people itself, when the burdens, the sufferings,
the oppression is too much to carry on.
If you say that we have done it before without results, we have demonstrate=
d
before, we have seen the government make the same cover up action before, w=
e
have no confidence that things should go another direction this time,
because things/history is just repeating itself, then you have lost the
case. We are all impatient, we want action now, the cry from the killed is
"enough is enough", but at the same time you must show control.
My first thought after I learned that two of my friends, who are students a=
t
GTTI, were still alive, was : How will the President and his party overcome
this action and try to stay in power ? How will The President maybe try to
avoid elections now ? From my corner of Europe and with my experience from
"normal political behavior", I think that he maybe will tie the robes more
and find an "excuse" to postpone elections. Maybe it=B4s not fair of me to
think so, but our politicians do the same. When they fear for the voters,
they do all they can to avoid elections. It=B4s a political behavior, I=B4m
sorry to say, it=B4s within their "culture". When in power they forget that
they are there to serve, as a privilege. Which will the arguments be to
postpone regional elections, parliamentary and presidential elections as
they are already announced ? If there is civilian disobedience, violent
actions, burning of public property or anything like that - will that be th=
e
reasons ? What if he will become international isolated from the "good
company". Maybe he is already, then that is no threat.
I see only one way, the democratic. The people will have to say "NO", and
"enough is enough". Who of you are ready to step in, take the leadership,
stay together beyond tribe, religion, work together based on "trust",
without becoming corrupt and make yourself rich, be ready to suffer for the
great vision of the country. I as an outsider will surely keep an eye on al=
l
of your steps. I come to know many of you on the Gambia-L, as I over the
years come to know many gambians here and in The Gambia, and I will look
forward for all your actions the coming months. And be sure I=B4m also here t=
o
support, because The Gambia hopefully will become my country within the
near-coming future. And I want it to be a peaceful, progressive country
where people can earn a living, take care of each other, become a nation
they are all proud of, with leaders to look up to. The potential is so big,
but there is no time to waist.
Comment from a friend of The Gambia, Asbj=F8rn Nordam
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Friends,
as you have seen before my english is not good. I make many mistakes also i=
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my last posting, but I hope you understand the meaning even the last word
should have been "waste" and not "waist".
Asbj=F8rn
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Yus,
For Christ sake, give us a break.
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>Astrid, while my apology still holds, its is important to note that this
>apology is from the website that published the excerpt from the Observer
>and not an apology from the newspaper itself.
>
>Just figured I would stress the distinction here.
>
>No offense intended.
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>Regards,
>Yus
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Dear Gambia-L members:
This is a protest letter to the organizers of the July 4th festivities in
Atlanta for inviting Mr. John P. Bojang as an honoree. This is a bad
precedent as it will signal an apparent belief by the dictatorship in The
Gambia that Gambians in the US have accepted their terror of governing
Please let us remember innocent students killed by dictator yahya jemus and
his agents.
There are notable Gambians in the US who are neutral, and as such I hope the
organizers can withdraw their invitation to Mr. Bojang. I urge members of
this forum
to join me in writing petition letters to the organizers of the July 4th
festivities. Please withdraw Mr. Bojang's invitation.
Comrade,
Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh
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The letter was written on JALI BAA's letterhead. The word "Jali Baa" is
derived from the Mandinka language. A Jali Baa, as some of us know, is an
oral historian and social critic who must create the people's anthem,
compose war songs to consolidate the legitimate aspirations of the people's
resistance. The kind of "Jali" we have the misfortune of listening to
nowadays are the "Butcher of Kanilai's" talking heads/apologists who have
not learned from the massive resistance demonstrated by the courageous
students that their days are numbered.
Appended is a letter we wrote back in 1996 and forwarded to all civilians in
their various ministries as well as the newspapers in existence then. There
was a lesson in the letter. Unfortunately, not too many heeded it. And
yes, the letter to the "Butcher of Kanilai" will be mailed to him and a copy
hand delivered to his representative here in DC.
Jali Baa"Public Opinion Organ for SeneGambians "
AN OPEN LETTER TO THE CIVILIAN OFFICIALS IN THE ARMED FORCES PROVISIONAL
RULLING COUNCIL (THE AFPRC)
Fellow Compatriots: We the undersigned are taking this urgent opportunity to
engage and appeal to the conscience of all Gambians, particularly the
civilian officials representing us in an official capacity in the AFPRC
regime. We come to you, at the most trying times in the history of our
beloved country, to take part in the struggle to avert horrors of
reactionary violence that beset our meager existence in Africa.
The AFPRC has proven to be deceptive and chicanerous. The murder of Ousman
"Koro" Ceesay (may his soul rest in peace); the deliberate delay in lifting
the political ban while the AFPRC is campaigning; the crafting of the
constitution to protect the AFPRC regardless of any dastardly deeds they
might have perpetrated against our people and the recent outrageous
statement made by Yaya Jammeh that "any political aspirant trying to cause
trouble will be executed and buried six feet deep" is inexcusable and a
testimony to what lies ahead for our country if we do not say enough is
enough, now. As the old adage goes, "prevention is better than cure" we
must take a principled position against the outrageous and insensitive
behavior of Yaya and the AFPRC all of whom, apparently, united in this
intolerant behaviour.
Subsequent to the July 22, 1994 coup d'etat, the AFPRC's political
maneuvering and their total disregard of the democratic rights of the
Gambian people to engage in political activities betrays the "soldiers with
a difference" image they have been desperately trying to uphold. It was
you, the civilian officials of the regime who were used to legitimize and
give credibility to their military agenda and it will as well be you with
the positions you take towards the negative unfolding of events in the
country that the AFPRC can be brought to the level of reason or become
isolated. Walk out and the AFPRC will be exposed as nothing other than the
shallow group of people they have become.
Heedless of the danger, the AFPRC reneged on the original timetable of
events leading to "free and fair elections". Yaya Jammeh and the AFPRC
should heed the lessons of history - that before them were the likes of
Bokassa, Idi Amin, Samuel Doe, and many others who allowed whim and caprice
rather than reason to guide their actions which in turn led to their
ill-fated ends.
We strongly believe that all of you in your official capacity should take a
position against the undemocratic hidden agenda of the AFPRC - tender your
resignations. Don't be silenced by fear. You must demand that the ban on
political parties and activities be lifted immediately and that all
political prisoners and all those detained without charge be released. In a
Reuters News Agency interview with former AFPRC spokesperson, Ebou Jallow,
in July of 1995, we were promised that none of the council members will run
for political office and that Yaya would retire and make farming his employ.
These people should be held to their promises. Leaders do not renege on
promises. Let us demand that the AFPRC step down.
We are urging all the opposition political parties to boycott the sham
referendum in August and the scheduled presidential elections in September.
We also urge the soldiers who constitute the people power revolution to band
together and support the peoples' resistance and avert another Sierra Leone,
Liberia, Rwanda, and Burundi; such an action will put you down in history as
the first honorable soldiers, sons of Africa to unite with the peoples'
resistance as oppose to suppressing the peoples' resistance.
Yaya Jammeh and the AFPRC should remember that individuals do not make
history at their own whim or to their own liking. Conversely, we should
never sit by the side-lines and watch history pass us by.
Finally, fellow compatriots, remember that there will always be Gambia after
the AFPRC and a day of reckoning is inevitable. How would you like to be
remembered in the history of our beloved country? The final decision is
yours to make and we hope you take an honorable position for the sake of our
Gambia.
We may not be able to agree on many things, but one thing we can all agree
on is to not let "the soldiers with a difference" do more harm to our
country. The tragedy of what might befall us will not lie in our failures,
but rather in the complacency we exhibit when we have this opportunity to
let our voices be heard against blatant injustices. We will in all
earnestness register our support of your position as it concerns the no
military political future of our country.
Yours Sincerely,
Ousainou Mbenga
Mbaye Baboucarr Sarr
Soffie B. Ceesay
Ousman J. Bojang
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Mr. Njie,
This is one hell of a piece! Your forensic analysis of Jammeh and his
cronies is superb. I was the first to endorse Katim's proposal of a deal
that would see Jammeh handing over power. But after reading this piece, I
agree with you that that proposal is at best very utopian. We just need to
accelerate our attacks on this criminal govt. Some of the proposals Katim
made like disseminating info on Jammeh to his hosts where ever he goes, and
the Radio Free Gambia idea are wonderful. For the Radio idea, I agree with
you that Senegal will be the best location.
Regarding this notion that it's "un-Gambian" to tell liars and hypocrites to
go to hell, I couldn't agree with you more. I've always regarded that
sentiment as absolute nonsense. I try to totally ignore such people. My
writing bears testimony to that. And any time I hear or read someone saying
such rubbish, I assume it's just how they've been brought up. Or maybe
there's a genetic component to it. See, my grand father was illiterate, and
dirt poor. Yet that man NEVER compromised the truth for any one. He used to
teach my brothers, cousins, and I Quranic lessons, and he would always
conclude his sessions with the same advice: "No matter where you people go,
or how rich you become, you're nothing in the eyes of Allah if you cannot
look at people in the eye and tell them the truth. Look at someone like me.
I don't have any worldly things. What do you think will happen to me if I
don't always tell the truth? Lose my position in Al-Jannah! blah, blah,
blah." I thought he was senile till I started to interract with all sorts of
phonies. And talking about Gambian, my grand father belongs to the twelveth
generation of descendants of Mama Yorro Khan, a Fulani cleric who left the
Futa Jallon highlands to settle in what we now call The Gambia. He was just
one of many. So, uncompromising truth telling is "un-Gambian?" Give me a
break!
Besides, and I should have pointed this out in my endorsement of Katim's
proposal, respect in my book is something you EARN. In other words, one's
behavior has to COMMAND respect. We'll really cheapen this very virtuous
attribute by according it to every fool that DEMANDS it. The operative word
therefore is "command." And unless basic decency has been overthrown, I just
don't see anything respectable in the behavior of the likes of Tombong, Essa
Bokarr Sey, or "that woman" (Prince - you make my day! Keep giving us that
type of wisdom) regarding this student massacre cover-up.
I agree with the analogies or parallels you drawn regarding what is going on
back home and what has transpired in other countries. Just for lack of time,
I agree with you on all the main points of your article. And by the way, the
List could use more of this type of analysis.
Saul.
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>"Hi folks,
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>"First, I would like to apologize for my long period of silence in the
>a
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Thanks brother ST Nyang
May Allah grant the souls of those that parted from us heaven.
Ameen
kindly extend my sincere condolences
Habib Diab Ghanim, Sr
Sheikh Tejan Nyang wrote:
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> Regret to announce the death of our uncle Kebba Njie.Uncle Kebba was a
> veteran trade unionist who was president of Gambia transport and allied
> workers union and has all his life in trade union activities.He was the
> first person to start a motor driving school in The Gambia as far as i
> could remember.Our Condolences to the family. Mya his soul rest in
> perfect peace.
>
> It is also with deep regret that i announce the death of our dear and
> faithful wife Haddy Bobb previously known as Julia Bobb. She was a
> teacher a Marina School.Haddy was married to our good friend Ellima A
> .S. P. Sarr of Gloucester Street. She passed away yester night and was
> buried this morning.Our condolences to Eliman and the entire Sarr
> family, The Bobb family of lancaster and perseverance, Fowlish family
> and all relatives and friends both at home and abroad. May her soul rest
> in perfect peace.
> Chi Jamma.
> Bro Sheikh Tejan Nyang.
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Our sincere condolences to the Njie, Bobb and Sarr Families. May Allah the
almighty have mercy on them.
Jabou Joh
Gambia-l
Regret to announce the death of our uncle Kebba Njie.Uncle Kebba was a
veteran trade unionist who was president of Gambia transport and allied
workers union and has all his life in trade union activities.He was the
first person to start a motor driving school in The Gambia as far as i
could remember.Our Condolences to the family. Mya his soul rest in
perfect peace.
It is also with deep regret that i announce the death of our dear and
faithful wife Haddy Bobb previously known as Julia Bobb. She was a
teacher a Marina School.Haddy was married to our good friend Ellima A
.S. P. Sarr of Gloucester Street. She passed away yester night and was
buried this morning.Our condolences to Eliman and the entire Sarr
family, The Bobb family of lancaster and perseverance, Fowlish family
and all relatives and friends both at home and abroad. May her soul rest
in perfect peace.
Chi Jamma.
Bro Sheikh Tejan Nyang.
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Dear Afrik-IT-ers,
You may be interested by this conference.
See. http://www.itu.int/africainternet2000/home.html
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Subject: Great opportunity for our women folks
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Subject: [WaterForum] M Sc Fellowships: Netherlands
Organization: ELCI / Phytomed Network
M Sc Fellowships for women from the South working in
water management
The Irrigation and Water Engineering Group, Department of
Environmental Sciences, Wageningen Agriculture and Research
Centre seeks qualified female professionals in water management
from the South who are interested in following the Master of
Science course "Irrigation and Water Management".
Background
In order to raise the number and profile of female professionals in
the water sector, the Global Water Partnership in collaboration
with Wageningen University developed a targeted program for the
provision of fellowships to women from developing countries
interested in pursuing a career in water management. SIDA, the
Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency, is
funding this program.
M Sc "Irrigation and Water Management" in Wageningen
The MSc course "Irrigation and Water Management" offered at
Wageningen University is a 17 months course with a limited
number of obligatory subjects which cover the basic technical and
managerial aspects of water management. The course is
interdisciplinary: technical, social and managerial issues are
addressed, as are the linkages between those. Gender analysis
concepts and tools as applicable to water management are
incorporated into the different courses. Explicit attention to gender
staffing issues, relating to the specific constraints female
professionals may face while working in water management
institutions and ways to deal with those, will also be included in the
Program.
The course set-up is such as to allow for participants to specialize
in an area of their own preference. Participants thus develop their
own course profile, and are free to select courses offered both by
Wageningen University as well as by other institutes and
universities in the Netherlands, such as for instance IHE or IRC.
Possible specializations include:
IntegratedWater Management and Development
WaterManagement Planning
IrrigationManagement
The MSc course consists of a first 11 months of course work and
proposal writing, 3 months of field work in the participant's home
country and 3 months of thesis writing in Wageningen.
The MSc courses are taught in English.
Selection of applicants
Fellowships are available and will be awarded to female
professionals from developing countries working in the water
management sector. In selection of applicants, priority will be
given to professionals working in research and training institutes
or universities. Applicants will have to comply with the regular
enrollment procedures and requirements of Wageningen
University.
More information
To obtain more information about the fellowships or about the
MSc program, contact:
M Sc Program Director: Ir. W.B. M. Genet, tel. +31 (0)317
483706 / 484190, e-mail: [log in to unmask]
FellowshipProgram Coordinator: Ir. M. Z. Zwarteveen, tel.
+31 (0)317 484231 / 484190, e-mail:
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Nieuwe Kanaal 11
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information<BR>To obtain more information about the fellowships or about =
the<BR>MSc program, contact:<BR>M Sc Program Director: Ir. =
W.B. M.=20
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What kind of a dick-head ambassador is this ignoramus? I did not see
anything normal about this incident except the categorical/systematic and
brutal murders of the Jammeh regime. Could it be that he is under the silly
illusion that the Gambia(ns) will prevail under the same barbaric
unlawfulness that transpired under the Abacha regime in his country?. No
Sir, this is not normal and there is not iota of normalcy about what
occurred. The president could be a student of Abacha but should he forget,
the gambia is not going to be turned into neither a concentration camp nor a
bloody killing field. Yet again, am disgusted by his reference to the
destruction of property, actually people's property(gambian tax-payer's) as
a concern instead of the precious jewels the nation lost. What kind of a man
is this..
Below is the comments of one Africa's sorry brains, Copied from the daily
observer, read on....
"Ayuba Jacob Ngaka, Nigeria High Commissioner:As Nigeria's
representative in The Gambia, I advise the government, parents and all
others concerned to treat this incident as a normal issue.There
should be objectivity in the assessment to forestall future occurrence. With
exception of those sitting for mock examination,
the government should not be in a hurry to recall the students to schools
until causes surrounding the event are identified.It is really
unfortunate that this kind of destruction has been committed but justice has
to be tempered with mercy."
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Please review the apology letter below and advise of any changes. I want to
send it to all the organozations we sent the petition letters to yesterday.
If I dont get any replies, I'll take it that the one I have below is
sufficient. Thanks
Dear Sir or Madam:
Sometime yesterday you received a petition letter regarding the
The Gambian student protesters, who were killed while protesting.
This petition letter was in no way intended as Spam mail but due to the lack
of foresight in designing the form, the end result was that many of the
organizations, institutions, and individuals, whose support we are seeking,
were inundated with mail generated by this automated online petition form.
As the Webmaster of the site (http://www.gambia.f2s.com) hosting the
petition form and the person who designed the online petition form, I
sincerely apologize for any inconveniences this might have caused you or
your organization. As such, I have taken the step of disabling this online
petition letter until we can come up with a better way of informing people
about this tragic event. Rest assured whatever we come up with, will not be
Spam mail.
I hope you accept my apologies on my behalf and on behalf of all those
involved in ensuring that the people responsible for killing these Gambian
students are brought to justice.
I also hope we can rely on your continued support in keeping pressure on the
Government of The Gambia in bringing those responsible for these senseless
killing to justice.
Again thank you for your concern and continued support and promotion of
human rights around the world.
Yankuba Njie
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:48:16 -0500
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Subject: To Muhammad-RE:Please Withdraw John P. Bojang's Invitation
Muhammad,
I understand the frustration but withdrawing the invitation of Ambassador
Bojang to the July 4TH is just not a proper way to handle this matter as
far as am concern. Am not one of the organisers nor have I met Mr Bojang
and I, and am sure many of you, have lots of questions to ask Mr ambassador,
thus it makes more sense to have him there as a representative of Yahya.
This way we don't have to keep chasing these guys. I think it will be a
great opportunity for us to address our concerns and disgust.
From: Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Please Withdraw John P. Bojang's Invitation
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Date: Apr 18, 2000
Dear Gambia-L members:
This is a protest letter to the organizers of the July 4th festivities in
Atlanta for inviting Mr. John P. Bojang as an honoree. This is a bad
precedent as it will signal an apparent belief by the dictatorship in The
Gambia that Gambians in the US have accepted their terror of governing
Please let us remember innocent students killed by dictator yahya jemus and
his agents.
There are notable Gambians in the US who are neutral, and as such I hope the
organizers can withdraw their invitation to Mr. Bojang. I urge members of
this forum
to join me in writing petition letters to the organizers of the July 4th
festivities. Please withdraw Mr. Bojang's invitation.
Comrade,
Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh
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From: THE GAMBIAN COMMUNITY IN GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN
IRELAND.
As the country reels from the murderous carnage the 10th and 11th of =
April,We join the national family in mourning the untimely of our =
children, our brothers, sisters, nieces and nephews, our grand children =
and our friends. We extend our heartfelt and deep condolences to the =
immediate families of the victims of this tyranny. We stand with them in =
their moment of grief and we share in their pain. We assure them of our =
grave sympathy and we pray with them for the souls of the departed. May =
God the Almighty in his abundant grace have mercy on their youthful =
souls.
As the families get on with arduous and sombre task of burring their =
children and loved ones, we join them in registering our boundless =
disgust and outrage against a government that can kill its own children =
in the name of national security. We say to that government and to its =
machinery of death, that you have committed the ultimate sin against the =
national family.
We echo the tributes already paid to Omar Barrow whose selfless =
sacrifice in the face of blatant terror cost him his young life. Like a =
fallen soldier in the theatre of war, we his bravery and courage. We =
pray that his dedication and devotion to humanitarian service will be =
containing inspiration to the nation.
We wish the casualties of this terror who are still in hospital, a =
speedy recovery and to their families the strength to cope in this their =
darkest hour.
Finally, we promise never, again. That promise is our duty.=20
Signed by The Gambian community
16th /04/00
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his bravery and courage. We pray that his dedication and devotion =
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nation.</FONT></DIV>
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who are still=20
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cope in=20
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promise is=20
our duty.</FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Signed by The Gambian =
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Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:15:15 -0400
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Yankuba,
That's the way forward. Looks good to me.
Malanding
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Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 10:30 AM
Subject: Aplogy Letter (Please Review)
> Please review the apology letter below and advise of any changes. I want
to
> send it to all the organozations we sent the petition letters to
yesterday.
> If I dont get any replies, I'll take it that the one I have below is
> sufficient. Thanks
>
>
> Dear Sir or Madam:
>
> Sometime yesterday you received a petition letter regarding the
> The Gambian student protesters, who were killed while protesting.
>
> This petition letter was in no way intended as Spam mail but due to the
lack
> of foresight in designing the form, the end result was that many of the
> organizations, institutions, and individuals, whose support we are
seeking,
> were inundated with mail generated by this automated online petition form.
>
> As the Webmaster of the site (http://www.gambia.f2s.com) hosting the
> petition form and the person who designed the online petition form, I
> sincerely apologize for any inconveniences this might have caused you or
> your organization. As such, I have taken the step of disabling this online
> petition letter until we can come up with a better way of informing people
> about this tragic event. Rest assured whatever we come up with, will not
be
> Spam mail.
>
> I hope you accept my apologies on my behalf and on behalf of all those
> involved in ensuring that the people responsible for killing these Gambian
> students are brought to justice.
>
> I also hope we can rely on your continued support in keeping pressure on
the
> Government of The Gambia in bringing those responsible for these senseless
> killing to justice.
>
> Again thank you for your concern and continued support and promotion of
> human rights around the world.
>
> Yankuba Njie
>
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From: Samba Goddard <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Sv: OBITUARY
Assalaamu alaikum G-L
Innaa lilaahi wa inna ilayhi raaji`oon.
Allaahumma ajurnaa fi museebatinaa
wakhluf lanaa khayran minha.
To Allah we belong and to him is our ultimate return.
We ask for recompense us for our affliction and replace it for us with
something better.
We also ask Allah to Shower them with His Mercy and grant them forgiveness
.....Ameen!!!!!
Praise due to Allah! to Him and He alone!!!!!
Thank you bro. Sheikh Tejan Nyang for coming with the Obituary announcements
on the List.
Keep up the good work,this is another way of Jihad also.
May The Almighty Allah! GIVE you longlife, goodhealth and
progress.....Ameen!!!!!
This is a very sad news to hear,Uncle Kebba was a good man, all the people
who know`s him will never forget him.
For our beloved wife,sister also, she was a good wife and a good sister
also, as you mention she was very faithful.
May their Souls Rest in Perfect Peace.....Ameen!!!!!
My sincere condonlence to the entire family ,friends and all the Gambians.
As we all know: DEATH IS THE REALITY OF THIS WORLD.....
May The Almighty Allah! be Marciful to us!
"Be aware of your negligence and awaken yourselves from slumbering before
such time when a noise is heard that such a person has fallen ill; that
his/her condition is precarious; that the physicians; have been called inn.
The physicians and doctors will no doubt be called for you, but no one will
give you the guarantee of life.
Then there will be cry that he/she is making well.
Your voice becomes inaudible. Now you will
not recognized any one. You started panting for breath. Your groaning
(expressing pain) has increased, the eyelashes are drooping.
This will be the moment when you will become well aware of the Hereafter,
but, your tongue would falter and relatives, standing there, will be
weeping.
Now, there appears before you, your family. But the tongue has become
speechless. In the meanwhile, every part of your body will start becoming
lifeless and at last, you will breath your last and your soul will reach the
heaven. Your kith and kin will make arrangements for your immediate burial.
This visitors would observe silence after lamentation.
Your enemies would rejoice. Your relatives would be absorbed in dividing the
goods left behing by you, while you are held accountable for your deeds.
This is the reallity of our mortal life.
Holy Qur `aan:
"He who has created death and life that He might test which of you is best
in conduct.
He is the Mighty, the Most forgiving".
It is clear that practical struggle entails a purpose and an ideal. The
purpose and the ideal serve as motivating drives. The actions of the
struggling individuals are determined and evaluated in terms of their
conformity or non-coformity to the ideal.
This evaluation furnishes an explicit evidence of the performance and
success of the individual.
Life is a struggle for the acquistion (aquire) of this purpose and death is
the natural climax of this struggle.
But keep on exhorting: for exhorting benefits the believers. Allah Created
men and ginns that they may worship Him. He desire no financial support from
any one, nor do He desire that we should feed Him.
Allah(SWT)! Says this in the Holy Qur `aan: and this verse has expressed the
object of human life and the purpose of his Creation with remarkkable
clarity.
It is quite clear from the verse that the creation of human beings does not
serve divine interest, because Allah! is absolutely independent of human
limitations:
He is beyond human cravings and desires.
"Allah wills and it is done": there is no gap between His wish and its
fulfilment: His wish, infact, is fulfilment.
He does not need human help and asistance in any form or shape because He is
absolutely
SELF-SUFFICIENCET.
Allah (SWT)! Declear in the Holy Qur `aan:
"Surely, it is Allah who is the great sustainer, the Lord of power, the
strong".
The role of man is passive.
"Allah! is the only agent of all forms of creation and no other agent has
created Him".
"O people We will show you our signs within the Universe and then within
your own mines.
So that you may know clearly with any shadow of douth that "Hach" is Allah!
He is the ultimate reality and you will find the ultimate reality.
O Allah! we ask You! to make us thankful for Your! fovour, to be of good
service to You! and grant us a sound heart and a truthful tongue. we ask
You! to grant us what You! know to be good and to give us refuge from what
is evil and to forgive us and You! are the knower of the Unseen.
O Allah! Inspire us with good conduct and save us from the evil of our
selfishness. Clear us in Your! presence of ascribing partners to You! and of
infidelity and pray unto Your Sincerely to obtain Your! answer and render
obedience to Your! hoping for Your! reward.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
(Pulo)
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Sheikh Tejan Nyang writes:
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> Regret to announce the death of our uncle Kebba Njie.Uncle Kebba was a
> veteran trade unionist who was president of Gambia transport and allied
> workers union and has all his life in trade union activities.He was the
> first person to start a motor driving school in The Gambia as far as i
> could remember.Our Condolences to the family. Mya his soul rest in
> perfect peace.
>
> It is also with deep regret that i announce the death of our dear and
> faithful wife Haddy Bobb previously known as Julia Bobb. She was a
> teacher a Marina School.Haddy was married to our good friend Ellima A
> .S. P. Sarr of Gloucester Street. She passed away yester night and was
> buried this morning.Our condolences to Eliman and the entire Sarr
> family, The Bobb family of lancaster and perseverance, Fowlish family
> and all relatives and friends both at home and abroad. May her soul rest
> in perfect peace.
> Chi Jamma.
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Dear Sir or Madam:
Recently, you received a petition letter regarding The Gambian student
protesters, who were killed while protesting.
This petition letter was in no way intended as Spam mail but due to the lack
of foresight in designing the form, the end result was that many of the
organizations, institutions, and individuals, whose support we are seeking,
were inundated with mail generated by this automated online petition form.
As the Webmaster of the site (http://www.gambia.f2s.com) hosting the
petition form and the person who designed the online form, I sincerely
apologize for any inconveniences this might have caused you or your
organization. As such, I have taken the step of disabling this online
petition letter until we can come up with a better way of informing people
about this tragic event. Rest assured whatever we come up with, will not be
Spam mail.
I hope you accept my apologies and all those involved in ensuring that the
people responsible for killing these Gambian students are brought to
justice.
I also hope we can rely on your continued support in keeping pressure on the
Government of The Gambia in bringing those responsible for these senseless
killing to justice.
Again thank you for your concern and continued support and promotion of
human rights around the world.
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Peter:
we share your outrage with the Nigerian High Commissioner. However, the language used in your first sentence doesn't seem appropriate for this forum. Please take note.
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Hamjatta,
The points you raised in your memorandum of 16 April have been noted. Feel
free to send me personal mails to raise any question for further
clarification. This is a time to share. All views need to be taken on board.
It is, however, necessary to explain certain things to you that may enable
you to understand our position better.
You would agree with me that in order to be the guardians of our own
destiny, we must address the exigencies of the passing moment and the
demands of the emerging future. We have a responsibility to address both
demands. This is precisely the reason why we operate at both levels. We do
take measures to address concerns that are of immediate consideration, and
we do operate at the level of a political party aimed at ensuring the
complete transformation of the society.
The students demonstration was beyond partisan politics and it gave birth to
a coalition of students who are moved and bound by their outrage for the
killing of Ebrima Barry and the raping of Binta Manneh. The delay in the
criminal justice system led them to take action in unison. In that respect,
they put the criminal justice system on trial. Their lack of faith in the
system is what compelled them to call for a demonstration in order to give
sharp focus to the issue so that its negligence will be inconceivable. The
students were, therefore, struggling for standards and values. They were
willing to give their lives for those standards and values. They were
determined to have a voice and be heard. They were determined to be seen.
They were not willing to compromise their position. The authorities who were
dealing with them did not realise how far the students were ready to ensure
that they were not ignored.
What we have been doing is simply to explain this reality.
All Gambians now know that the right to peaceful demonstrate is a democratic
right which should be respected. That failure to recognise such rights can
lead to national upheaval. This national upheaval did take place as the
authorities tried to restrict the demands of the students.
Now, we are confronted with the demands arising from the catastrophe.
Students are arrested and they need to be released. Some are tortured and
they redress. Properties are destroyed and there is need for reconstruction.
People have been demanding for a public enquiry. They want
to know whether live bullets were utilised which led to the death of
students. They want a fair and speedy trial in connection with Ebrima
Barry's case. They want a commission of enquiry to know what actually
happened. These are their demands.
It is left to the government to ignore these demands or address them. It is
not for us to indicate whether we are sure that this time anything would be
different. It is for us to amplify the immediate demands of the people.
Whether the response of the Attorney General is simply meant to be a mere
bait to shift attentions from what is really wrong with the country and that
the investigations would be half-hearted or not, is left to their practice.
What is abundantly clear is that the will of the people has been asserted
and a government ignores that will at its own peril; no government can
ignore the people's concerns with impunity when the people are determined to
matter.
You have mentioned the strategic objective of not only demanding for justice
in dealing with this particular incident, but to ensure a change of
leadership. Of course you know that we also operate an opposition party in
order to address
the demands of the emerging future; that is the demand for total political
change. As far as we are concerned, even if the demands of the passing
moments are addressed, that does not negate the major demands of the people
for economic prosperity and fullest empowerment.
Hence, we are committed to amplifying the demands of the moment and giving
suggestions regarding the means to address them, as well as the total
transformation of the society.
What we have been trying to do is to explain that this is not a law and
order issue, opposition and ruling party; it is a struggle to expand the
democratic space. It is a refusal to live the old way and a demand for a new
way. No government, which is refuses to acknowledge this, can govern this
country in peace. This is the fundamental lesson that should be gathered.
Suffice it to say, it is the duty of the opposition parties to express these
demands of the people clearly and offer them a political alternative. The
party in office also has its prerogative to do whatever it desires to try to
address the concerns of the people.
What is important is for the standards required for addressing the
grievances of the moment to be set and weigh practice against the standards.
I hope our position is clear.
As for the question of a coalition, this is a tactical instrument. Political
parties, whether in Senegal or Gambia, can establish coalitions. That is
also dictated by circumstances. Your suggestion is noted.
Keep in touch.
Greetings.
Halifa Sallah.
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Below is the apology letter that was sent. The website
http://www.gambia.f2s.com is up. Thanks
Kuba
Dear Sir or Madam:
Recently, you received a petition letter regarding the
The Gambian student protesters, who were killed while protesting.
This petition letter was in no way intended as Spam mail but due to the lack
of foresight in designing the form, the end result was that many of the
organizations, institutions, and individuals, whose support we are seeking,
were inundated with mail generated by this automated online petition form.
As the Webmaster of the site (http://www.gambia.f2s.com) hosting the
petition form and the person who designed the online form, I sincerely
apologize for any inconveniences this might have caused you or your
organization. As such, I have taken the step of disabling this online
petition letter until we can come up with a better way of informing people
about this tragic event. Rest assured whatever we come up with, will not be
Spam mail.
I hope you accept my apologies and all those involved in ensuring that the
people responsible for killing these Gambian students are brought to
justice.
I also hope we can rely on your continued support in keeping pressure on the
Government of The Gambia in bringing those responsible for these senseless
killing to justice.
Again thank you for your concern and continued support and promotion of
human rights around the world.
Yankuba Njie
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Some good observations from people on the ground. However, I was a bit
puzzled by your articulation of the students' demands ...
"They want to know whether live bullets were utilised which led to the death
of students. They want a fair and speedy trial in connection with Ebrima
Barry's case. They want a commission of enquiry to know what actually
happened."
.....I thought it was abundantly clear from eyewitness accounts that live
bullets were used. True, we need a proper forum to bring this out in the
open. But I would not stay neutral and give the perpetrators of these acts
benefit of the doubt. I think the main question is who was responsible for
giving out orders to shoot and kill school children..... Aren't people also
demanding to know what transpired between the Govt. negotiators and the
students ....lastly, to get the ball rolling, have people started taking up
the Attorney General on his promise and giving him names of people who can
serve as prosecutors when these criminals who shot and ordered the shooting
of our children are brought to trial.
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>
>Hamjatta,
>
>The points you raised in your memorandum of 16 April have been noted. Feel
>free to send me personal mails to raise any question for further
>clarification. This is a time to share. All views need to be taken on
>board.
>
>It is, however, necessary to explain certain things to you that may enable
>you to understand our position better.
>
>You would agree with me that in order to be the guardians of our own
>destiny, we must address the exigencies of the passing moment and the
>demands of the emerging future. We have a responsibility to address both
>demands. This is precisely the reason why we operate at both levels. We do
>take measures to address concerns that are of immediate consideration, and
>we do operate at the level of a political party aimed at ensuring the
>complete transformation of the society.
>
>The students demonstration was beyond partisan politics and it gave birth
>to
>a coalition of students who are moved and bound by their outrage for the
>killing of Ebrima Barry and the raping of Binta Manneh. The delay in the
>criminal justice system led them to take action in unison. In that respect,
>they put the criminal justice system on trial. Their lack of faith in the
>system is what compelled them to call for a demonstration in order to give
>sharp focus to the issue so that its negligence will be inconceivable. The
>students were, therefore, struggling for standards and values. They were
>willing to give their lives for those standards and values. They were
>determined to have a voice and be heard. They were determined to be seen.
>They were not willing to compromise their position. The authorities who
>were
>dealing with them did not realise how far the students were ready to ensure
>that they were not ignored.
>
>What we have been doing is simply to explain this reality.
>All Gambians now know that the right to peaceful demonstrate is a
>democratic
>right which should be respected. That failure to recognise such rights can
>lead to national upheaval. This national upheaval did take place as the
>authorities tried to restrict the demands of the students.
>
>Now, we are confronted with the demands arising from the catastrophe.
>Students are arrested and they need to be released. Some are tortured and
>they redress. Properties are destroyed and there is need for
>reconstruction.
>
>People have been demanding for a public enquiry. They want
>to know whether live bullets were utilised which led to the death of
>students. They want a fair and speedy trial in connection with Ebrima
>Barry's case. They want a commission of enquiry to know what actually
>happened. These are their demands.
>
>It is left to the government to ignore these demands or address them. It is
>not for us to indicate whether we are sure that this time anything would be
>different. It is for us to amplify the immediate demands of the people.
>Whether the response of the Attorney General is simply meant to be a mere
>bait to shift attentions from what is really wrong with the country and
>that
>the investigations would be half-hearted or not, is left to their practice.
>
>What is abundantly clear is that the will of the people has been asserted
>and a government ignores that will at its own peril; no government can
>ignore the people's concerns with impunity when the people are determined
>to
>matter.
>
>You have mentioned the strategic objective of not only demanding for
>justice
>in dealing with this particular incident, but to ensure a change of
>leadership. Of course you know that we also operate an opposition party in
>order to address
>the demands of the emerging future; that is the demand for total political
>change. As far as we are concerned, even if the demands of the passing
>moments are addressed, that does not negate the major demands of the people
>for economic prosperity and fullest empowerment.
>
>Hence, we are committed to amplifying the demands of the moment and giving
>suggestions regarding the means to address them, as well as the total
>transformation of the society.
>
>What we have been trying to do is to explain that this is not a law and
>order issue, opposition and ruling party; it is a struggle to expand the
>democratic space. It is a refusal to live the old way and a demand for a
>new
>way. No government, which is refuses to acknowledge this, can govern this
>country in peace. This is the fundamental lesson that should be gathered.
>
>Suffice it to say, it is the duty of the opposition parties to express
>these
>demands of the people clearly and offer them a political alternative. The
>party in office also has its prerogative to do whatever it desires to try
>to
>address the concerns of the people.
>
>What is important is for the standards required for addressing the
>grievances of the moment to be set and weigh practice against the
>standards.
>I hope our position is clear.
>
>As for the question of a coalition, this is a tactical instrument.
>Political
>parties, whether in Senegal or Gambia, can establish coalitions. That is
>also dictated by circumstances. Your suggestion is noted.
>
>Keep in touch.
>
>
>Greetings.
>
>Halifa Sallah.
>
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saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
> Mr. Njie,
>
> This is one hell of a piece! Your forensic analysis of Jammeh and his
> cronies is superb. I was the first to endorse Katim's proposal of a deal
> that would see Jammeh handing over power. But after reading this piece, I
> agree with you that that proposal is at best very utopian. We just need to
> accelerate our attacks on this criminal govt. Some of the proposals Katim
> made like disseminating info on Jammeh to his hosts where ever he goes,
and
> the Radio Free Gambia idea are wonderful. For the Radio idea, I agree
with
> you that Senegal will be the best location.
>
Saul,
Thanks! Your grandfather was a great man, an honourable man. Honourable men,
inculcate honourable values in their children, and no value surpasses the
truth!
When I read what your grandfather used to repeat to you, I am sure
untiringly, I could not help but recall Sidia Jatta's resignation letter
from the Curriculum Department. It was an open letter that I got sent to me
in Oslo; I think it was around 1987. I made several copies and sent them to
colleagues. I'm sure I still have a copy somewhere.
It started somewhat like this:
Dear Sir,
And then there was a synopsis of Sidia's life; from early one morning when
his father called him into his hut and told the kid that he was going to
send him to school. What was expected of him...
To acquire knowledge so that he can contribute his utmost towards the better
of his people. Of the value of truth and honour.
How that kid went on to excel, eagerly looking forward to returning home to
contribute toward the development of The Gambia only to find that nobody
really cared what knowledge he had acquired. The attitude from above
practically said: "You are getting paid regularly, so relax!"
It ended by saying that under the circumstances, the only honourable thing
to do was to resign.
Looking at the Man Sidia is today, I can vow that the most important element
of his education was taught to him by his father. There are some things they
just don't teach in school. I myself I a product of Sukuta Junior Secondary
School.
Therefore, when Jammeh started peddling that nonsense about how many schools
he had built in two years and how many Jawara had not built in thirty, my
counter-argument was simple, as always, that if you are bent on producing
good students, students that did not think that education ends that day they
are awarded their certificates, then the logical thing to boast about is how
many good teachers I have produced from the meagre resources I have at my
disposal. That teacher can work in Barra or in Fatoto. Your four walls and a
roof? Mere structure with even furniture.
Talking about four walls and a roof, at Sukuta, classrooms Form Three and
Four were mere 'kirinting' walls and a corrugated roof. At times when the
wind was blowing, we had to constantly dust away sand particles from our
books. Because we had very competent teachers, many did well. I understand
some have gone on to excel further academically
I think sometimes the things we run round the whole globe looking for is
right there under our own feet, we just don't know it because we don't care
to look hard enough.
And I agree with you that we need debates looking at where we are heading,
otherwise what's the use? We must know where we are heading, what we want to
get and how to get it.
My kids are coming over tomorrow to spend the Easter. If they don't
confiscate my pc, I am planning to look at Jammeh and the danger he poses to
our way of life. Let no one fool you, as you guys say down there: "The guy's
nuts!"
Regards.
Kabir.
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I will first extend my condolence to the innocent and vulnerable students
who were vandalised by the blood tasty and barbaric Jammeh boys.The carnage
is unbearable but the culprits have already remorsed and will ever remorse
their act.
Yahya i know the spirit of leadership is now cronic in your systems,and you
will not want to compromise with any body whom you feel is a threat.But we
can no longer accept the killing of innocent Gambians just to secure your
position and to be a life president.Dont you know in a participatory
democracy every citizen have the right to involve in the affairs of their
country and they have all rignt to express their feelings one way or the
other.If as a leader you dont have the patience to listen to the comments of
your people ,you are not fit to be a leader.Mr. president you have fail the
Gambian people and the entire world.In other to bulwark your position you
refused to convict the fire service officers who maltreated Ebrima Barry and
the rapers of that school girl.Any way Mr president is too much,the killing
is too much.We can no more keep cool with all these jungle life
behaviour.People in the Gambia are living in fear because they are sure who
will be the next victim.In such situation development will be check.
If you see under age students challing your leadership,know that your days
are numbering.Those soldiers who blatantly killed their own brothers and
sisters should know that their brutality will hunt them till the day of
judgement.You know yourselves you who killed Omar Barrow and all those
innocent students.If you have no other way of quelling students when
demonstrating which is their right,you better step aside and dissolve your
blood hungry cohort.What a disgrace to you and your ring of ineffective
people who celebrate because they dispersed students demonstrators by
killing numberless of them.
No nati0on can develop without the participation of their active
population.But because of your inefficiency and brutality,potential citizens
are all fleeing the country .Yes they are because you are witchhunting
killing and inprisoning them in other to secure your office.Are you aware
that the active population are all fleeing the country which is really bad
for any progress any where.
If unarm students are sacrifying their life to bring justice in the Gambia
why not others.Lets armalgamate and do some thing about our dear motherland
in other to extricate our country from merciless gang who feel victorious
because they butchered innocent students for their own security.Do some
thing once again to stop your countryfrom being another Liberia.
Ebrima s Janneh.
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I will first extend my condolence to the innocent and vulnerable students
who were vandalised by the blood tasty and barbaric Jammeh boys.The carnage
is unbearable but the culprits have already remorsed and will ever remorse
their act.
Yahya i know the spirit of leadership is now cronic in your systems,and you
will not want to compromise with any body whom you feel is a threat.But we
can no longer accept the killing of innocent Gambians just to secure your
position and to be a life president.Dont you know in a participatory
democracy every citizen have the right to involve in the affairs of their
country and they have all rignt to express their feelings one way or the
other.If as a leader you dont have the patience to listen to the comments of
your people ,you are not fit to be a leader.Mr. president you have fail the
Gambian people and the entire world.In other to bulwark your position you
refused to convict the fire service officers who maltreated Ebrima Barry and
the rapers of that school girl.Any way Mr president is too much,the killing
is too much.We can no more keep cool with all these jungle life
behaviour.People in the Gambia are living in fear because they are sure who
will be the next victim.In such situation development will be check.
If you see under age students challing your leadership,know that your days
are numbering.Those soldiers who blatantly killed their own brothers and
sisters should know that their brutality will hunt them till the day of
judgement.You know yourselves you who killed Omar Barrow and all those
innocent students.If you have no other way of quelling students when
demonstrating which is their right,you better step aside and dissolve your
blood hungry cohort.What a disgrace to you and your ring of ineffective
people who celebrate because they dispersed students demonstrators by
killing numberless of them.
No nati0on can develop without the participation of their active
population.But because of your inefficiency and brutality,potential citizens
are all fleeing the country .Yes they are because you are witchhunting
killing and inprisoning them in other to secure your office.Are you aware
that the active population are all fleeing the country which is really bad
for any progress any where.
If unarm students are sacrifying their life to bring justice in the Gambia
why not others.Lets armalgamate and do some thing about our dear motherland
in other to extricate our country from merciless gang who feel victorious
because they butchered innocent students for their own security.Do some
thing once again to stop your countryfrom being another Liberia.
Ebrima s Janneh.
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If that is the case, then the opposition should be there too. Remember the
4th of July festivities have never been political. Bojang is welcome as any
other ordinary Gambian, but he should not be invited as an honoree. What
kind of message are we sending to the dictator?
Comrade,
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Thought you might be interested in this from the Denmark Amnestry
International. I received this today it today
PUBLIC AI Index: AFR 27/01/00
EXTRA 35/00 Excessive use of force by security forces 12 April 2000
GAMBIA Fourteen people killed and at least 28 injured
Fourteen people were killed and at least 28 injured when security forces
used excessive and indiscriminate force to break up student-organized
protest demonstrations on 10 and 11 April 2000. Amnesty International is
concerned for the safety of those taking part in further demonstrations
anticipated in the coming days and weeks.
The demonstrations, involving hundreds of people, were organized by the
Gambian Students Union (GAMSU) in Banjul, Brikama and other towns to protest
at the death of a 19-year-old student, Ebrima Barry, on 9 March, reportedly
after torture by Brikama Fire Service personnel, and the alleged rape of a
13-year-old schoolgirl by a police officer the next day.
The demonstrations went ahead despite a refusal by the authorities to grant
GAMSU a permit. The demonstration in Banjul on 10 April became violent when
the security forces tried to disperse crowds using tear gas and rubber
bullets. The security forces apparently fired indiscriminately into the
crowd when demonstrators began throwing stones at them, burning tyres and
setting fire to buildings, including fire stations and police stations.
Oumar Baro, a journalist and Gambia Red Cross volunteer, wearing Red Cross
insignia, was killed as he went to help injured demonstrators.
The situation in the country remains tense with further demonstrations, some
violent, taking place in other towns on 11 April. The authorities have
closed all schools indefinitely and asked parents to keep their children at
home until further notice. Soldiers are patrolling the streets in Banjul to
maintain order. Of more than 100 demonstrators arrested, most have now been
charged or released.
Government and police sources have said that six fire personnel suspected of
being responsible for the torture and death of Ebrima Barry have been
arrested, interrogated and remanded in custody pending a court hearing. It
is not clear whether any of the suspects have yet been charged. An official
autopsy, the results of which were made public at the end of March,
concluded that Ebrima Barry died of natural causes. GAMSU insists that the
government has not responded adequately to the alleged torture and death of
Ebrima Barry.
Police have said they are carrying out a full investigation into the alleged
rape of the 13-year-old girl. Although a police identity parade has
reportedly been held, no suspects were identified and no one has been
charged.
BACKGROUND INFORMATION
After a military coup in 1994 the former chair of the ruling military
council, retired Colonel Yahya Jammeh, was elected president in
controversial elections in September 1996. Decrees were then passed banning
politicians in the former government from being politically active and
granting total immunity from prosecution to those who held power as a result
of the military coup in 1994 up until the return to civilian rule. These
decrees remain in force.
RECOMMENDED ACTION: Please send telegrams/faxes/express/airmail letters in
English or your own language:
- expressing concern at excessive force used by security forces in breaking
up demonstrations in Banjul and other towns on 10 and 11 April 2000
resulting in the deaths of at least 14 people and injuries to at least 28
others;
- calling on the government to instruct security forces to abide by the
United Nations Basic Principles on the Use of Force and Firearms by Law
Enforcement Officials, which state that ‘the intentional lethal use of
firearms may only be made when strictly unavoidable in order to protect
life’;
- urging the government to initiate a full and impartial investigation into
security force violence, including deaths and injuries of demonstrators, at
demonstrations held on 10 and 11 April and asking that all those found
responsible for human rights violations be immediately brought to justice;
- emphasizing the need for full, independent and impartial investigations to
be carried out into the alleged torture of Ebrima Barry by Brikama Fire
Service personnel on 9 March and the alleged rape of a 13-year-old
schoolgirl by a police officer on 10 March;
- urging the government to ensure that those found to be responsible in
these cases are
charged and brought to justice without delay.
APPEALS TO:
President and Minister of Defence
Captain (retd.) Yahya A.J.J.Jammeh, Office of the President, State House,
Banjul, The Gambia
Telegrams: President, Banjul, Gambia
Faxes: 00 220 227 034 - Salutation: Dear President
Minister of Interior
Honourable Ousman Badjie
Ministry of Interior, 71 Dobson Street, Banjul, The Gambia
Telegrams: Interior Minister, Banjul, Gambia
Faxes: 00 220 223 063 - Salutation: Dear Minister
Minister of Justice and Attorney-General
Honourable Pap Cheyassin Secka
Ministry of Justice, Marina Parade, Banjul, The Gambia
Telegrams: Justice Minister, Banjul, Gambia
Faxes: 00 220 225 352 - Salutation: Dear Minister
Inspector General of Police
Inspector General Rex King, Police Headquarters, Buckle Street, Banjul, The
Gambia
Salutation: Dear Inspector
COPIES TO:
The Editor, The Point newspaper, PO Box 66, Banjul, The Gambia
Faxes: 00 220 497442
The Editor, Daily Observer newspaper, PMB 131, Banjul, The Gambia
Faxes: 00 220 496878
Kanzlei der Botschaft der Republik Gambia
126, Avenue Franklin Roosevelt, B-1050 Brüssel
Telefax: (00 32) 2-646 3277 - (S. E. Herrn Ismaila B. Ceesay)
PLEASE SEND APPEALS IMMEDIATELY. Check with the International Secretariat,
or your section office, if sending appeals after 12 May 2000.
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........ who do we pin to lead us to Yaya is the exact question people should
be asking .......... But, believe me they are not looking at it this way, I will
be surprised if anyone would take up your challenge to recommend prosecutors to
the AG ............ Instead of thinking about the whole situation and devicing
a plan to get something done ......... Folks would jump up and done for a
couple of weeks and will eventually let go ......... It is up to us to set up
a strategy and make the other list members realize that this is the way to
go ............ they should demand someone take some responsibility for the
actions that took place .......... simple as that .......... I am not saying
someone should come out and confess anything, all I am saying is that they
need to be some explanation to the chain of events that led to the shootings,
then it is up to the law to figure out how to progress from there ... If we
only engage in some of these rhetoric, the whole issue will die a quiet death
not even with anyone punished for the shooting, but without anyone taking the
responsibility for the shootings ..........
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Mr. JConteh,
I'm with you. The organizers of this event should merely extend an
invitation to Bojang to attend. And more importantly, opposition Reps in
this country should also be invited. But, to even deem this man as an
"honoree" is repulsive to me. Why would anyone want the representative of a
butcher to grace his/her event? I seriously doubt whether the man will even
go given what he knows will be greeting him there. 'Cause for the first
time, I'm 90% sure as of now of attending this annual event. I can't wait to
question some of these Jammeh stooges. John Bojang will be a good
interviewee.
And by the way, be rest assured that he WON'T be able to evade us during the
next planned demos. He succeeded the last time around because of the short
notice given out by the planners. If he tries to repeat that cowardly act
again, there're ways of flushing him out. Trust me!
Saul.
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Gambia L,
As far as I know there is a difference between a Civil Servant and a =
Politician. Can Tombong please give us an answer? Which one of them =
are you? As far as I can remember you are a Civil Servant. Your duty =
as a Civil Servant and holding a post which one sees amongst the most =
important post in any country should be very careful in what you say. =
How can the Director of Radio & TV (??) write such? =20
"The President is saddened and mad about the whole incident both the =
handling
of it by the security forces and the manner GAMSU went about it. The =
critics
could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has done more for
Gambian youths than any leader ever did, from the colonial masters to
Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them by
providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds around =
the
country to recruit and sensitise the students; he bought them computers =
for
their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota van
(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own =
telecentres
(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. These are just a =
few
of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built schools, a
University and many other tertiary institutions since he came to power.
Gambian youths have more access to education now than any other time in =
the
history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise is very
unfair."
Your message here tells us everything about how our motherland is being =
ruled. Did you think twice before writing this? Where did the money =
come from? Is Jammeh a philanthropist or a head of state? Even if he =
is a philanthropist should one not dear say his wrong doings. Are you =
telling us that all the developments that have or are taking place in =
Jammeh's time are from his pocket? No, you are wrong Mr Director, the =
money is ours and not his. Who and what was Jammeh before he became the =
President, a millionaire. No wonder people in Gambia say the =
samething, Jammeh gave us this and that. They hear it daily from Radio =
& TV Gambia daily. Have you ever think how powerful the media is in our =
life and how much it can influence us? Please do us a favour and by =
giving correct info to the general public. When one turn on the TV or =
Radio all you hear is what Jammeh has done for the Country, he even =
tells the people that if they do not what to hear what he has to say let =
them put off their sets. The TV is his. You are playing cat and mouse =
here (double roll) to Gambia L and Jammeh.
Ada
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critics<BR>could say any thing about President Jammeh, however he has =
done more=20
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masters=20
to<BR>Jawara. The President practically formed GAMSU. He encouraged them =
by<BR>providing funds for their various activities such as their rounds =
around=20
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computers=20
for<BR>their office; gave them a super VHS camera, ordered a new Toyota=20
van<BR>(coaster) for them, and his is helping them to have their own=20
telecentres<BR>(2) so that they will have a permanent flow of revenue. =
These are=20
just a few<BR>of the things he did for GAMSU. The President has built =
schools,=20
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to=20
power.<BR>Gambian youths have more access to education now than any =
other time=20
in the<BR>history of The Gambia. To call him names and suggest otherwise =
is=20
very<BR>unfair."<BR><BR>Your message here tells us everything about how =
our=20
motherland is being ruled. Did you think twice before writing =
this? =20
Where did the money come from? Is Jammeh a philanthropist =
or a head=20
of state? Even if he is a philanthropist should one not =
dear say=20
his wrong doings. Are you telling us that all the developments that have =
or are=20
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are wrong=20
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Gambia=20
say the samething, Jammeh gave us this and that. They hear it =
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the=20
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Please do us=20
a favour and by giving correct info to the general public. =
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even tells the people that if they do not what to hear what he has to =
say let=20
them put off their sets. The TV is his. You are playing cat =
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Comrade,
We must remain calm despite all the frustrations involved.I know you must
be saying geez! look who is talking.Yes we are all disgusted by what happened,
yes I hate this regime more than you do, BUT we must reason and find a
constructive approach. From what I understand, Mr Bojang was invited as an
honoree long before this tragic events occurred so maybe this will put your
second concern into perspective. Back to your initial concern, by way I
must say you got me lost here, Comrade we DON'T need an opposition, THE
PEOPLE ARE THE OPPOSITION for crying out loud.
In a nutshell comrade, let this guys(Mr Bojang and who knows maybe Tombong)
show up, then folks such as myself who really need this opportunity, will
use it and set the record straight. It's one thing to say all you want on the 'L'
but we'll see if you really have something to say. Wouldn't that make
you happier or would you rather post for the heat of the moment just as
rest here of us. Think about it. What is paramount here is getting some
kind of closure. .
Regards,
George
If that is the case, then the opposition should be there too. Remember the
4th of July festivities have never been political. Bojang is welcome as any
other ordinary Gambian, but he should not be invited as an honoree. What
kind of message are we sending to the dictator?
Comrade,
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George,
Let me tell you that Mr. John Bojang would not give you any answers neither
will Tombong. These people are not even allowed to talk to any one without
getting orders from Jammeh. Even the ministers back home are not. They are
all cautioned to talk only with is approval.
Mr. Bojang am sure was invited because he is the Ambassador representing the
Killers government. Would he be invited if he was not? I have never been to
the July 4th. and was counting on this one to be my possible first, but why
invite any political party representative, more over the Jammeh people?
Let me briefly tell you that the only reason why Mr. Bojang is chosen as an
Ambassador is because he is an uncle to Jammeh. Now tell me, what should you
expect?
Ousman Bojang.
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From the BBC
Malian women have been warned to avoid the skin lighteners
By Joan Baxter
The use of bleaching creams to lighten complexions seems to have reached epidemic proportions in Mali, despite widespread education campaigns.
Women who refuse to bleach often find themselves regarded as second class citizens.
A woman who did not bleach her skin said she is often not offered a chair at baptisms, and is asked to make herself scarce when group photographs are taken at marriages.
A quick survey shows there are more than 100 bleaching products available on the market in the capital, Bamako.
Sold under brand names such as Marie-Claire or Diana, the products come from Morocco, Nigeria, the United States or Saudi Arabia.
Pain
Dermatologists estimate that more than half the women in Mali are now using these creams to lighten their skin. These products are costly and often cause pain and blemishes.
So why are so many women in Mali using them? The answer is simple, according to one Malian woman singer: The creams make her white, and impart a certain charm.
But Malian physician Dr Ali Gindo finds bleached skin anything but charming.
"They are just burning themselves," he says. "It's painful and it's awful."
Dr Gindo says bleaching can cause skin cancer and the poorest people are the most at risk, because the cheaper the product, the more dangerous it is.
But he says it is not just poor women are bleaching their skin.
Role models
"We have also people who are well educated like lawyers, writers or professors, or people on the TV - and this is a real problem because if people who are leaders of opinion bleach themselves, you can imagine how deep the problem is."
Many of the women who use these products told me they do so because Malian men prefer women with bleached skin.
But male musician Al Hassan Soumali disagrees.
"I don't think Malian men like bleached women," he says. "It's better for Malian women to change their minds."
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Request was made to the senegalese by the APRC regime to repatriate Gamsu
students that fled into senegal, after they [students] witnessed the
massacre and roundup of their compatriots.This shows how callous and
reptillian Yahya Jammeh is, as he on one hand, is calling for normalcy, and
on the other searching for these gallant/warrior students that face the
maurading child-killers.
Let us bombard the senegalese government and amnesty international [senegal]
at email: [log in to unmask] to spare the lives of these school
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Subject: Re: To Comrade Muhammad-RE:Please Withdraw John P. Bojang's
Guys, I repeat my understanding is that the ambassador was invited to Atlanat
long before this tragic event happened, and yes he was invited simply
because he,supposedly, represents Gambians in the US. Do I approve of him
been invited in the first place?The answer is simply NO for what he
represents. BUT my point here folks is that maybe there is an opportunity
here. Not to work a deal with a devil but to say what many of us want to
say. If it comes to a closure,then great. If it doesn't then am sure Yahya
would get the message. There is always an opportunity in chaos. Let's see
before we jump to conclusion. I promise you he will never come back to
Atlanta if he does not admit any wrongdoing. Let's not blow up the
opportunity if a petition is as of yet feasible.
George,
Let me tell you that Mr. John Bojang would not give you any answers neither
will Tombong. These people are not even allowed to talk to any one without
getting orders from Jammeh. Even the ministers back home are not. They are
all cautioned to talk only with is approval.
Mr. Bojang am sure was invited because he is the Ambassador representing the
Killers government. Would he be invited if he was not? I have never been to
the July 4th. and was counting on this one to be my possible first, but why
invite any political party representative, more over the Jammeh people?
Let me briefly tell you that the only reason why Mr. Bojang is chosen as an
Ambassador is because he is an uncle to Jammeh. Now tell me, what should you
expect?
Ousman Bojang.
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I am proud to read what my "little" brother EB Scattred Janneh has written. Keep the fire burning, brother.
Amadou Scattred Janneh
In a message dated Tue, 18 Apr 2000 2:55:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ebrima janneh <[log in to unmask]> writes:
> I will first extend my condolence to the innocent and vulnerable students
> who were vandalised by the blood tasty and barbaric Jammeh boys.The carnage
> is unbearable but the culprits have already remorsed and will ever remorse
> their act.
> Yahya i know the spirit of leadership is now cronic in your systems,and you
> will not want to compromise with any body whom you feel is a threat.But we
> can no longer accept the killing of innocent Gambians just to secure your
> position and to be a life president.Dont you know in a participatory
> democracy every citizen have the right to involve in the affairs of their
> country and they have all rignt to express their feelings one way or the
> other.If as a leader you dont have the patience to listen to the comments of
> your people ,you are not fit to be a leader.Mr. president you have fail the
> Gambian people and the entire world.In other to bulwark your position you
> refused to convict the fire service officers who maltreated Ebrima Barry and
> the rapers of that school girl.Any way Mr president is too much,the killing
> is too much.We can no more keep cool with all these jungle life
> behaviour.People in the Gambia are living in fear because they are sure who
> will be the next victim.In such situation development will be check.
> If you see under age students challing your leadership,know that your days
> are numbering.Those soldiers who blatantly killed their own brothers and
> sisters should know that their brutality will hunt them till the day of
> judgement.You know yourselves you who killed Omar Barrow and all those
> innocent students.If you have no other way of quelling students when
> demonstrating which is their right,you better step aside and dissolve your
> blood hungry cohort.What a disgrace to you and your ring of ineffective
> people who celebrate because they dispersed students demonstrators by
> killing numberless of them.
> No nati0on can develop without the participation of their active
> population.But because of your inefficiency and brutality,potential citizens
> are all fleeing the country .Yes they are because you are witchhunting
> killing and inprisoning them in other to secure your office.Are you aware
> that the active population are all fleeing the country which is really bad
> for any progress any where.
>
> If unarm students are sacrifying their life to bring justice in the Gambia
> why not others.Lets armalgamate and do some thing about our dear motherland
> in other to extricate our country from merciless gang who feel victorious
> because they butchered innocent students for their own security.Do some
> thing once again to stop your countryfrom being another Liberia.
>
> Ebrima s Janneh.
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What zzupp in Atlanta? Are we gonna have two July 4th celebrations.
Once again we have demonstrated our selfishness and show everyone how
we as a community can never come to terms. Should I say everywhere we
go and everyother city we are.. we still do the same shit
that is a divided Gambian Community. Come on people y'all can do better
than what is happening in ATL. Couple of years ago it was DC and now
Atlanta, can't you people see the unity that exist in other
communities(Senegalese, Somalians,Ethiopians etc).
Wow !!!! two websites http://www.atlgambians.com and
http://gambianreunion.org/ and two different schedules all on the same
dates..What is going on !!!!! In one of the websites, the slogan reads
"United we stand, divided we Fall" ... you need to scrap this off your
page because your community is already divided.
In this very difficult moments that our country is going through, I
beg the Atlanta Gambian community to sit down and come to terms.
LET NO GREED AND PERSONAL INTEREST GUIDE OUR ACTIONS.
For a better Gambian Community
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Gambia-L,
Here is a German version of the original petition. A french version will follow
very soon. Yankuba, please take note.
Comments and proposals from german-speaking L'er is highly wlcome.
Alpha Robinson
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Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
In der Geschichte unseres geliebten Landes wurde am 10. Und 11. Aprill 2000 ein
sehr tragisches Kapitel geschrieben, als Sicherheitskraefte das Feuer auf eine
von Studenten organisierte und unbewaffnete Demonstration eroeffneten. 14
Demonstranten wurden getoetet und mindestens 28 Menschen verletzt, darunter ein
Freiwilliger Mitarbeiter des Roten Kreuzes und ein Journalist, Omar Barrow.
Grund für die
Demonstration war die Folterung und Ermordung eines Studenten, Ebrima Barry
durch Feuerwehr Personal, sowie die Vergewaltigung einer 13jaehrigen Schuelerin,
Binta Manneh, durch einen Polizisten. Hunderte Studenten wurden seither
verhaftet und verzweifelte Eltern wissen nicht, ob ihre Kinder tot oder
inhaftiert sind.
Wir, die Unterzeichnenden rufen Sie und Ihre Organisation auf, Druck auf die
Gambianische Regierung auszuueben, damit sofort:
- die Sicherheitskraefte Anweisung erhalten, jede exzessive Gewalt gegen
Zivilisten einzustellen
- alle inhaftierten Studenten entlassen werden
- die Namen der Toten bekanntgemacht und die Koerper zur Beerdigung freigegeben
werden
- eine unabhaengige Untersuchung der Schiesserei und der begleitenden Umstaende
eingeleitet wird
- sichergestellt wird, daß der Teil der Sicherheitskraefte, der exzessive Gewalt
angewendet hat, die in Menschenrechtsverletzungen resultierte, gemaeß der
gesetzlichen Bestimmungen voll zur Rechenschaft gezogen wird
- die Sicherheitskraefte zu aeußerster Zurueckhaltung bei den für naechste Woche
angekuendigten Demonstrationen angewiesen werden
- sichergestellt wird, dass sich die Sicherheitskraefte streng an die Verfassung
der Republik Gambia, sowie an die internationalen Gesetze und Abkommen halten,
die Gambia unterzeichnet hat
Wir hoffen und warten auf Ihre freundliche Unterstützung in dieser dringenden
Angelegenheit und danken Ihnen und Ihrer Organisation für Ihre Anteilnahme.
Mit freundlichen Grueßen,
Concerned Citizens of The Gambia
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Solomon,
May I suggest that you draft a petition and pass it on to Yankuba so that we can
deal with it in the same manner as the other petition once agreed upon.
Alpha Robinson
Solomon Njai wrote:
> Request was made to the senegalese by the APRC regime to repatriate Gamsu
> students that fled into senegal, after they [students] witnessed the
> massacre and roundup of their compatriots.This shows how callous and
> reptillian Yahya Jammeh is, as he on one hand, is calling for normalcy, and
> on the other searching for these gallant/warrior students that face the
> maurading child-killers.
> Let us bombard the senegalese government and amnesty international [senegal]
> at email: [log in to unmask] to spare the lives of these school
> children.
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G-L,
Here is a copy of a letter I sent to the Senegalese government on behalf of
the students who have fled to Senegal, and whose repatriation is being sought
by the regime in Gambia. May I request that Mr Njai put this at the petition
website, and may I request one and all to please go there and add your
signature so we can send this out as soon as possible. Thanks to all.
Jabou Joh
To: The Government of Senegal.
From: All Justice loving Gambians .
Dear President Wade.
We have been notified that the Gambia government has requested Senegal to
repatriate the students who have fled into Senegal to save their lives from
the murderous regime in Gambia that has already killed our children in cold
blood, and who are now hunting these students like wild animals.
We call upon you as a neighbour and as a brother who has the best interest
of the Gambian people at heart, not to turn our students over to this regime
who will probably turture and murder them. Some of the students who have been
detained by the Gambia Security forces have not been charged or allowed
visits with their families, and the whereabouts of some of these students in
the hands of the security forces have not been made known to the public or
their families, even though the government has said that they will conduct a
thorough and fair investigation. Time and experience has shown us that we
cannot put any trust in the promises given by this regime.
It is also a general concensus by all sober thinking Gambians, as well as
all justice loving people the World over, that the security forces opened
fire on students when they were exercising their constitutional right to
demonstrate against what was seen as a gross miscarriage of justice. Two of
their fellow students were killed and raped respectively without the
government making any attempts to bring the culprits to justice, and this was
the reason for the demonstration . Infact,of the two cases the students were
protesting , the rape case was not even looked into, and in the murder case,
the autopsy report was falsified and the perpetrators left to go scot free
until this tragedy forced them to say that the perpetrators are now in
custody. Time will tell if this claim is true.
We implore you in the name of all that binds our two countries together,
and these are many, from blood relationships to a timeless common history,
not to repatriate these students to what could undoubtedly be a dismal end
for such young lives.
The atrocity of firing live bullets into a crowd of young demonstartors was
perpetrated on our country by the government of the day, and yet, the best
thing they have given the Gambian people is a shameless denial, and a failure
to face up to the responsibility of inflicting this tragedy on our once
peaceful and peace loving country.We wish from the bottom of our hearts that
this regime would remove itself from the backs of the Gambian people once and
for all.
Ours is a dictatorship where nothing happens without the blessing of our
President, and yet, he stood before the Gambian public and pretended that he
was not responsible for this atrocity. Why then are his enforcers hunting
down our children in cold blood? This denial and callousness is a nightmare
that is hovering over the heads of all Gambians the Whole World over. We are
desolate, and in the grips of nightmares since this terrible inhumane act,
the likes of which we never envisioned occurring in our country. We implore
you not to worsen this nightmare for us by repatriating our children to their
doom.
From all indications,, it is clear that every attempt is being made to
inflict even more pain and human rights abuses on these students with this
endless witch hunt, and the rampant arrest of students all over the country
since this tragedy unfolded.
We implore you in the name of Allah almighty, as a brother and a neighbour,
to make every attempt to save the lives of these poor Gambian students by not
only refraining from repatriating them, but also to do everything in your
power to ensure their safety in Senegal.We put you in charge of their lives
with the confidence that this trust will not be betrayed. Thank you.
Sincerely,
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George,
Mr Bojang was here in Oslo about 3 years ago to present his credentials =
to the king of Norway, as Gambian High Commissioner to Britain. The =
Gambian community here had a meeting with him, and I asked him what his =
government had thought of doing regarding the plight of many Gambians =
languishing in Turkish jails. His response was that he was not aware of =
this, but that his government was going to look into it. When the man =
comes to Atlanta, can someone "remind" him? It`s been almost three years =
since, and I bet the brothers are gradually rotting in Turkey- The =
sickman of Europe. There were other issues too that had been aired by =
others like that of dual nationality, and Mr Bojang promised them that =
he would do his utmost, but that was the last time they ever heard from =
him. Again can someone "remind" him?
Regards,
Omar.
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>George,
>Let me tell you that Mr. John Bojang would not give you any answers =
neither
>will Tombong. These people are not even allowed to talk to any one =
without
>getting orders from Jammeh. Even the ministers back home are not. They =
are
>all cautioned to talk only with is approval.
>Mr. Bojang am sure was invited because he is the Ambassador =
representing the
>Killers government. Would he be invited if he was not? I have never =
been to
>the July 4th. and was counting on this one to be my possible first, but =
why
>invite any political party representative, more over the Jammeh people?
>Let me briefly tell you that the only reason why Mr. Bojang is chosen =
as an
>Ambassador is because he is an uncle to Jammeh. Now tell me, what =
should you
>expect?
>
>Ousman Bojang.
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GAMBIA-L,
THE DARK BOWEL OF THE JAMMEH REGIME HAS ALREADY EXPLODED. The reaction of
the officials of the regime has clearly indicated it. Who on this earth will
not see the hideous lies that the vice president and the interior secretary
gave regarding the demonstrations. Enough is seen and heard about the
regime. Their recent reactions should tell everybody that they have been
lying to the Gambian people and the whole world since their very first day
of coming into power.
They fisrt of all lied about their reasons of taking power forcefully with
the gun. Soldiers with a difference. Yes, a difference of being liars,
manipulators, hypocrites, and greedy. They lied about the november attempted
coup, the so-called recent attempted coup led by Sanneh, the killing of
Ousman Koro ceesay, the wrongful arrest of the Brikama Imam and others, they
lied about the crude oil deal, the unsale of farmers produce saying it is
the responsibility of the private sector etc. etc.
These BEASTS should now be known very well by everybody. I call them BEAST
because they do not behave like intelligent human beings. Infact should I
measure their intelligence that far?It is so sorrowful that we are being led
by people of less understanding. Where are they good ones of the regime as
claimed before? WHere are those Imams who also claimed to be followers of
truth? Give me a break.
By the way, how many people were killed by Jammeh and his men since they
came to power in 1994? Yet they called themselves MUSLIMS. What a CAMOUFLAGE
of hypocrites. They use to compare themselves to the Jawara era. But how
many people did the Jawara regime massacre? Does the regime really cares
about the Gambian people as they always claim? I swear that I am crying as I
write this letter. It is really sad to Gambians mercilessly killed their own
brothers and sisters and some evil and selfish ones care less about it.
Could any one tell me how they analysed Jammeh's speech? To me it is
manipulative, hypocritical, and carries no truth.
Bamba
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List Members,
My initial posting was intended to be a private reply =85=85=85=85 I will=
however=20
go on the record and condemn the shootings of April 10. I can't add to the=
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outrage that has already been expressed on the list.
We can do a couple of things from this end to get answers to the ridiculous=
=20
loss of life as a result of the shooting events. I am however puzzled by=
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the lack of action on the part of the Gambian citizenry back home in=20
demanding an answer to one basic question
What were the commands given to those responsible for diffusing the riots?=
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And who gave those orders?
The AG should then be challenged to bring those involved to justice. Our=20
folks back home should take the lead in getting this issue resolved. It is=
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the responsibility of the citizenry to demand answers from their=20
Government. If the electorate is not satisfied with the answers given by=20
their Government, they will have the opportunity to exercise their God=20
given right to choose those who represent them.
Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are so fundamental to our=20
existence that it should not take the senseless killings of school children=
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for the Gambian Citizenry to express their outrage.
I challenge The Gambian People back home to make the death of those=20
children not go in vain.
Raye Sosseh
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Ray:
I am glad that you are in Atlanta. If it will not be a problem, please call
me at 18006788009(5) and ask for Conteh. I have found your letter quite
interesting and would like to correspond with you.
I am prepared to lead the opposition as a response to Mr. Bojang's speech in
Atlanta on July 4th. I hope you can convince the organizers of the
festivities to let me speak on behalf of the opposition.
Please feel free to correspond with me.
Comrade,
Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh
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Assalaamu alaikum brother Tombong,
Alhamdullilah, (Praise due to Allah alone).
(There is no power and mighty except by Allah!)
Thank you for your information. I read it very carefully. Your effort is
highly appreciated.
I want you also to extend my message to his Excellency the president. I will
be very greatful if you can do this favour for me.
I swear to the Almighty Allah! it was my plan to sit down with his
Excellency FACE to FACE, but i cannot longer afford to be silent and wait
for that day, and am not sure whether i could get the chance or not, but as
far as the technology is getting more advance that we could comminicate to
each other.
I am not talking about politics only, my subject is beyond politics.
A REMINDER TO THE PRESIDENT:
Your Excellency i would like to take this opportunity to have dialogue with
you.
As a muslim, Allah! Said that before making any judgement to any one try to
have proves and evidence. I think that i have many proofs, and evident, I
have AFPRC speeches from your election victory celebration and the oppening
of the airport. Which was in 1996.
If Tombong can provide this tapes for you:
The election victory, the oppening of the new air port and the Rebels that
attacked the Farrafenni Barracks
in 1996.
I have this tapes with me. These tapes are my evidence and if you dont mind
i would like you to have the Holy Qur àn also with you and follow my
message.
We might find the cause of this tragic, if you follow me very carefull, and
not by heart. Opon your mind and listen very carefully.
I would like to start with the fair Justice you did with those rebels.
Do you remember Friday 8th of November 1996, when Essa Baldeh, Omar Dampha,
Sulayman Sarr, Mbalo Kanteh and Yaya Drammeh wanted to take over your
government. You showed the public live programme about the insident and let
all journalist and some soldiers to asked all kind of questions, they went
to the extend to asked some of the rebels that if they are honest to
themselves what penelty do they deserved. The rebels answer all the
questions that they asked and still the journalist want them to be the lawer
and at the same time to judge themselves.
Your Excellency I want to know whether is it only these five rebels that
deserved this kind of justice?
Why you dont imposed the same kind of justice to those people who you say
that they were trying to overtrown your government.
I think they should come to the media also, and all those who took the lives
of others.
What is the used of the television???
Your Excellency 1996 was a good year for you in the Gambia, because most of
the gambians were proud of you, because of the changes you had made in the
country.
Your Excellency do you remember your election victory were the student and
soldiers ran from Birkama to Banjul for your sake, and you stood in your
pajero with joy and happiness.
The feelings of the gambians that day was fantastic, no one can discribed
those feelings,all what I heard from the crowed was:
(we need Yaya Jammeh)
Your Excellence do you remember the day you stood at the July 22nd Square
and said: Now the election is over, we want to work for the country, for
those who want to join us, you are welcome, but if you dont want to work for
the country and you want to stop those who want to work for the
country,(Billaahi, Wallaahi Tallaahi) I swear to The Almighty Allah! we will
killed you. All the public claps for you, that time they were innocent about
what is going to happen in the future.
You also said that let the oppositions stop the insulting, because we have
to respect each other, if you dont want that I swear you will die.
All the crowd claps their hands for you.
That was a big threat to the people and most of them dont know, because they
love you and show you all the love they have for you.
Your Excellency do you remember the day you opened the International
Airport, the smilling faces that day no one can discribed that atmosphere.
The late Alieu Sallah (may his soul rest in peace)
was praising you so much.
He sacrifies his life to support you 100% by telling the people that you are
the best person to vote for.
I wonder if he was still alive to witness this tragic, how would he feel,
how about if his child was one of the victims.
The opening of the New Airport you started with the name of Allah!
Bismillaahir rahmaanir Rahiim
Al-Hamdullilahi Rabbil- Alamiin,
Al-Hamdullilahi Rabbil- Alamin
Al-Hamdullilahi Rabbil -Alamin
You said that the reason why you start with this words is because there were
many skeptics about your plans, they think that it is just a mire
properganda and is impossible, even the gambian civil authurity for ministry
of works and comminication dont believed that it could be possible. You
proved them wrong.
You said that you want to make something clear for every gambian that there
is only one Supreme power and that is The Almighty Allah!
The public claps their hands for you, because you really touched them when
you mention Allah! and the faith you show`s them.
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
You said that money cannot come any were else than from Allah! Allah is your
World Bank.
The public claps again for you, and the late Alieu Sallah praise Allah! by
saying (Allahu Akbarr) and to showed the public how much he likes you.
You said that some people even asked why the need for a ultral modern
terminal building,
some people says that you were seeking for your own interest.
You said that not even the cattle will question why a terminal building is
nesesary much more the people that will represent the electorate.
So next time know who you are going to vote for!!!
Your Excellency you always used to make one thing clear, that the risk that
AFPRC took for their lives and make the country a better place and to make
gambians a proud people. No body except Allah can denied from that, no
matter your philosophical politic is Democracy or Deremocracy I will tell
you that the (revolution will never be compromise).
The public claps for long time.
But I think they did not get the message clearly.
You said that you are not going to compromised the security of the country
true the name of Democracy.
You said that there is no Democracy in the world.
The type of Democracy we know is that we most sweet.
If any body want to distroyed this country in the name of Democracy (you
will be buried) with your own Democracy.
The public claps again for you.
That was another threat also.
You said to the people to listen to you very carefully that your Democracy
is very simple:
Do what is right, work for the development of the country and for your own
developement.
if you dont want that please leave the country and go and stay in the bush.
You said that anybody who want to put opstacles on your way you will
(distroyed them with their supporters). They clap for you again.
That was a threat again which is not good for the society, Mr. president.
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
You said that Banjul International Airport is a mirrow of the country not
only the atraction, but it will also help in increasing the contribution of
productive sector like domestic product and to make tourism paradise. If you
think that the building of this airport is waist of money, please dont come
to the airport when you are travelling used the desert.
The public laught and claps for you.
The architecture of the Internation Airport, Mr. Piere Kujabie had said that
the meaning of this building is Unity.
UNITY IS ALL THIS BUILDING IS ABOUT.
Together when you hold hands, that`s unity.
The image of the building is like two people in a `Bubu` handing and shaking
hands it means that when you shake hands in unity you will stand.
He also said that it means more than that it looks like flying birds.
United you can all fly like birds for your future and the development and
the well being of the people of the Gambia. Says the Architecture Piere
Kujabie.
I think Mr. president you miss the whole point, about the meaning of the
airport. Because what the architecture is trying to say is we should be
united.
Is there any unity in the Gambia??? Mr. president.
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
You built an arch also infront of the capital which is so wonderful, when
people are coming to Banjul the first thing they see is a soldier, called
the unknown soldier
having a baby on his right arm, and give a sign of peace. Which show`s that
the soldier are there for the youths and to protect the country and the
people.
That is the opposite of what happened the 10 of April 2000. Which gambians
will never forget.
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
Yes you built schools also.
what do you think today that the student can concentrate in their schooling
with your regime
THE BUTCHERS.
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
Yes you built hospitals also.
Most of the student are laying in your hospitals today with serious
inguries, because of your BUCHERES
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
Yes you built so many Mosque.
Is it for people to worship Allah alone, or is it for people to fear you,
because you are so pious and the way you dressed yourself, or is it the way
you talk to the people to fear you. It could be dangerous with you Mr.
president;;;
The evil do`ers are with you working hand in hand with you.
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
Yes! you went to Mekkah and took so many people to Mekkah. Do you understand
the message that a Muslim should go to Mekkah once in his lifetime, if
he/she CAN AFFORT IT.
Do you teach those people you send to Mekkeh how to be a good muslim.
Dont tell the people to fear Allah! and you dont show them good example`s.
Why I said this is since the AFPRC took over, people are dieing
unnessarilly, yes! people were dieing before you took over, and we will all
die, no doubt about it, but we can see the difference between the Jawara
regime and you regime which is the best, you dont need to explain to us. We
heard that people are killing people with out any good reasons.
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
The piousness you are showing to the people,
and real piousness is not inside you.
You know yourself better than I do, but
I could tell you, something is missing with your piousness.
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
AFPRC you all know that is not your powers that make you took over the
Gambia. You all know that, because we could see it the way you dressed
yourself like a muslim and in your speech you mentioned Allah`s name, read
the Book and try to understand it very carefully, so that you can rule the
country if you really fear Allah!
You can closed people mouth in the gambia, but not every were.
Fear Allah! because you are going to be accounted by Allah! the Almighty and
no one will escape that day, only those who really fear Allah! both
practical and spiritually, will be successful that Day.
Your Excellency you said that the world is three days: Yesterday, Today and
Tomorrow. Which is obsalutely correct.
AFPRC do you remember the day you took over the country in a bloodless
coupe, you new 100% it was with the helped of Allah!,
that was Yesterday, Today, you all see with your own eyes that the people
are angree because of the way you are rulling this country is not fair.
Your Excellency the mejority of the gambians are very angree with you, and
dont make it more worse, because it could be dangerous.We all see what
happened in Freetown, Brundi, Rwanda and other country, because of anger.
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
Your Excellency you got to stop this right now before it is too late, if the
anger countinue, people will not fear the bullets.
You have the weapons and the security is in your,
so do what is right before your time is out!!!
AFPRC you all know that this life is TEMPORAL is not going to last. And I
think you believe in the life after...
Take your Qur `an and follow me I will direct you where Allah! is calling
our attention about this life and the here after. The Qur `an explained
every thing.
The Qur àn is a complet way of life, because Allah! Send the prophets with
the guidience for mankind, which is a complete way of life.
Allah has given every person the capacity to discern good from evil and the
conscience of every man knows and feels this. it is said that to treat well
and with other people is a form of worship the purpose of all worship, where
a man submits before Allah! he has to have good manners.
When a person performs a deed which gives him happiness and peace, we can
safely understand that it is a good deed, and in accordance with nature.
Similary if we feel sad of repentant at some deeds we can assume that it is
sinful. A person can decide this by appeal to his conscience. Seek peace of
the heart and stay away from restlessness so that life may bloom and be
pleasant.
(Hell is covered by lusts and Heaven is covered with difficulties ).
Let us believe in Allah and try to do his command.
Because the subject of mans after life is not confined to philosophical and
logical speculation but has a bearing on the practical and moral life of man
kind.
A person who believes in resurrection and the hereafter is inculcated with a
sense of responsibility and accountability believes all his actions to be
accountable he leaves the path of tyranny and becomes God-fearing such a
person by believing in the last judgement makes him self responsible and
feels he is answerable for his deeds.
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
Do you remember the late Samuel Doo, General Abarcha, Hitler and others
with all their powers, were are they now???
Do you remember Eddi Amin from Uganda, George Bush, Ronald Regan and others
were is all the power they were showing off???
Fear Allah! Mr. president;;;
May God! bless you and the gambia and guide us from Satan the evil, and LEAD
us form the Straight Part.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
(Pulo)
> 16TH APRIL, 2000. Tombong Saidy Wrote:
>
> STATEMENT TO THE NATION
>
> BY PRESIDENT JAMMEH ON THE STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATION
> OF 10TH & 11TH APRIL, 2000
>
> BISI - MILLAHI ARAHMANI
>
> FELLOW CITIZENS
>
> MY TASK TODAY IS INDEED A VERY DIFFICULT ONE, AS IT IS WITH THE DEEPEST
> FEELING EVER OF IMMENSE DISTRESS AND UTMOST GRIEF THAT I ADDRESS THE
NATION
> ON THE UNFORTUNATE AND TRAGIC STUDENTS' DEMONSTRATIONS THAT OCCURED LAST
> MONDAY AND TUESDAY. ON THESE TWO DARK DAYS IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY, THIS
> NATION SUFFERED IRREPARABLE LOSS OF LIVES AND INCALCULABLE DAMAGE TO
> PROPERTIES. MOST REGRETABLE IS THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF THE 12 YOUNG PEOPLE
> AND THE LARGE NUMBER OF WOUNDED. I THEREFORE WISH TO TAKE THIS SAD
OCCASION
> TO JOIN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, ON BEHALF OF THE GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE
OF
> THE GAMBIA AND THAT OF MY FAMILY, TO EXTEND DEEPEST CONDOLENCES AND
> HEARTFELT SYMPATHY TO BEREAVED PARENTS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, FRIENDS,
> CLASSMATES AND LOVED ONES OF OUR DEPARTED CHILDREN. LET US ALL PRAY THAT
THE
> ALMIGHT ALLAH RECEIVES THEIR SOULS AND GRANT THEM ETERNAL REST. LET US
ALSO
> PRAY FOR THE SICK AND WOUNDED, TO RECEIVE ALLAH'S SPEEDY HEALING AND
> RECOVERY. WE MUST OFFER PRAYERS ALSO FOR THE BEREAVED AND THE NATION, TO
BE
> COMFORTED, TO HAVE THE FAITH AND COURAGE TO SUSTAIN THEIR LOSS. AS WE
> REMEMBERE AND COMMIT THOSE WE LOVED DEARLY IN ALLAH'S CARE, I AM HEREBY
> DECLARING ONE WEEK OF MOURNING, DURING WHICH ALL FLAGS IN THE COUNTRY WILL
> BE FLOWN AT HALF MAST IN LOVING MEMORY AND RESPECT FOR THE DEAD
>
> FELLOW GAMBIANS
>
> I WANT US ALL TO PUT THIS SAD AND UNPRECEDENTED INCIDENT INTO ITS PROPER
> PERSPECTIVE, TO REFLECT ON AND INVESTIGATE INTO THE CAUSES AND TO DRAW
> USEFUL LESSONS FROM THE EXPERIENCE. WHILE I WAS IN CUBA ATTENDING THE G
77 -
> SOUTH SUMMIT, I HAVE BEEN CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH MY GOVERNMENT ON THE
> EVOLUTION OF THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND. EVERYONE WILL AGREE THAT THE
> PRIMARY DUTY OF ANY GOVERNMENT IS TO ENSURE THAT PEACE AND STABILITY
> PREVAILS IN A COUNTRY, SAFEGUARD THE RIGHTS OF EVERYONE TO LIFE AND
> PROPERTY, AND GUANRANTEE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE WITHOUT FEAR OR FAVOUR. MY
> GOVERNMENT WILL THEREFORE CONDUCT A FULL INVESTIGATION INTO THE EVENTS OF
> THE 10TH AND 11TH APRIL 2000. IN THE INVESTIGATIONS, NO STONE WILL BE LEFT
> UNTURNED IN OUR SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH. CONCURRENTLY, A CORONER'S INQUEST
WILL
> BE HELD ON THE CAUSE OF DEATH OF THE TWELVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR
> LIVES IN THIS UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT.
>
> IN THE DAYS THAT LIE AHEAD, I WILL BE COUNTING ON ALL GAMBIANS, RELIGIOUS
> LEADERS, LEADERS OF CONSCIENCE TO HELP BRING BACK THE PEACE AND STABILITY
> THAT HAS ENABLED US TO HELP NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES TO AVERT THE DANGERS OF
> INTERNAL CONFLICT AND STRIFE. WE WANT TO BUILD A SOCIETY WHOSE YOUTH WILL
BE
> PROUD OF THE EDUCATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
> AVAILABLE TO THEM. THIS WILL ENABLE US TO BUILD ON THESE FOUNDATIONS WHICH
> WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE THE GAMBIA A HAVEN OF PEACE AND STABILITY IN THE
> SUB-REGION AND AFRICA AT LARGE. THESE ARE CERTAINLY SOME OF THE ESSENTIAL
> PRE-CONDITIONS FOR ATTAINING OUR VISION 2020 OBJECTIVES.
>
> I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND PRAY THAT THE ALMIGHTY ALLAH
CONTINUE
> TO SHOWER HIS PEACE AND BLESSING ON THE BEREAVED, THE WOUNDED, AND THE
> COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.
>
> ASSALAMU ALAIKUM WARAH MATULLAHI WABARA KATUHU
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Brother Saul:
I was expecting your solid response. It is out respect and due honor to
always concur with you. Please feel free to call me at 18006788009(5) and ask
for Conteh.
I am prepared to lead the opposition as a response to Bojang's statement on
July 4th. Please join me on this memorable day.
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I am always prepared to lead the opposition as a response to Mr. John P.
Bojang's speech on July 4th. Please join me and other Gambians in denouncing
the dictatorship in The Gambia.
We must be prepared to lead and not let the deaths of innocent Gambian school
children go in vein.
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I am in full support to withdraw Bojang's invitation.
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What does the majority leader have to say as a veteran educator and the
ex-SG of the Gambia Teachers' Union?
SPEAK UP OR FOREVER REMAIN OPPRESSED
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Bass,
I'm with you on this totally. Gambians need to stop thinking about their
pockets (because that's what it's always about,) and start seriously
thinking about the national interest. The mess we're in is a reflection of
our individual selfishness.
Saul.
>What zzupp in Atlanta? Are we gonna have two July 4th celebrations.
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Jabou,
We're no friends, but I endorse these sentiments wholeheartedly. I would
love to be associated with this letter. This attempt to have these kids
quietly extradited by Senegal just shows you what a two-faced snake Yaya
Jammeh really is. He's pulling that piety stunt to fool the "religiously
challenged," while insidiously persecuting these students. There seems to be
no limit to this guy's madness.
Saul.
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I was very seriously concerned and worried to read the following news this
morning:
<culled form Quantum Net Page - GRTS RADIO NEWS: TUESDAY 18TH APRIL 2000<
"Lecturers from Gambia College, and teachers from other schools around the
country are meeting at the Regional Education Centre in Kanifing to discuss
what is termed as Study Technology - an initiative that studies how to
overcome barriers that block or impede the ability of students to master
any subject. The workshop, which will last for seven days, was opened
yesterday by the Education Secretary Ann Therese Ndong Jatta. The head of
Gambia College's school of education Wvette Phillot said the initiative was
developed by an American researcher and philosopher, Ron Hubbard 25 years
ago. Study Technology has been used by educational organisations in
providing teaching and learning programmes around the world. 40
participants are attending the workshop."
Dear List memebers,
Ron Hubbard is the founder of a para religious group, that has only one
target, to take over power in the entire world. Accepting such influence in
Gambian schools, colleges, education system is going to be a terible thing
to happen in the Gambia. Especially in Germany we are facing serious
problems with this group. They are pretending to be a religious group, but
they are not, but enslaving people and not alowing freedom of the private
individual. German Government is seriously fighing this group. They are
attempting to get strong influence on government and business and will
attempt to come to power. They are against liberal democratic basics, human
rights and moslem values and a threat to any moslem and democratic state. I
post a quotation of the German Governmenal Constitution protection site
below, as well as a copy of the German Staate of Bavaria Governmental page
(both have been translated automatically):
From German Government site "Constitution protection"
<http://www.verfassungsschutz.de/>
(Automatic translation)
<3rd 3.1 noticed on her meeting in Bonn on 5./6 June 1997 that with the
"Scientology organization" there are actual clues about endeavours against
the liberal democratic basic order for the permanent meeting for the
Secretaries of the Interior and-for senators for the countries for (IMK).
"Scientology organization" is observation object of the authorities
constitution protection since then. >
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Here a revised version from Germany:
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
In der Geschichte unseres geliebten Landes wurde am 10. und 11. April 2000
ein sehr tragisches Kapitel geschrieben, als Sicher-heitskräfte das Feuer
auf eine von Studenten organisierte und unbewaffnete Demonstration
eröffneten. 14 Demonstranten wurden getötet und mindestens 28 Menschen
verletzt, darunter ein
freiwilliger Mitarbeiter des Roten Kreuzes und ein Journalist, Omar Barrow.
Grund für die Demonstration war die Folterung und Ermordung eines Studenten,
Ebrima Barry durch Feuerwehrpersonal, sowie die Vergewaltigung einer
13jaehrigen Schülerin, Binta Manneh, durch einen Polizisten. Hunderte
Studenten wurden seither
verhaftet und verzweifelte Eltern wissen nicht, ob ihre Kinder tot oder
inhaftiert sind.
Wir, die Unterzeichnenden rufen Sie und Ihre Organisation auf, Druck auf die
Gambianische Regierung auszuüben, damit sofort:
- die Sicherheitskräfte Anweisung erhalten, jede exzessive Gewalt gegen
Zivilisten einzustellen
- alle inhaftierten Studenten entlassen werden
- die Namen der Toten bekannt gemacht und die Leichname zur Beer-digung
freigegeben werden
- eine unabhängige Untersuchung der Vorfälle und der begleitenden Umstände
eingeleitet wird
- sichergestellt wird, dass der Teil der Sicherheitskräfte, der exzessive
Gewalt angewendet hat, die in Menschenrechtsverletzungen resultierte, gemäß
der
gesetzlichen Bestimmungen voll zur Rechenschaft gezogen wird
- die Sicherheitskräfte zu äußerster Zurückhaltung bei den für nächste Woche
angekündigten Demonstrationen angewiesen werden
- sichergestellt wird, dass sich die Sicherheitskräfte streng an die
Verfassung der Republik Gambia, sowie an die internationalen Gesetze und
Abkommen halten, die Gambia unterzeichnet hat
Wir hoffen auf Ihre freundliche Unterstützung in dieser wichtigen
Angelegenheit und danken Ihnen und Ihrer Organisation für Ihre Anteilnahme.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Concerned Citizens of The Gambia
(Betroffene Bürger des Landes Gambia)
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IS THIS AN ATTEMPT TO DIVERT PEOPLE'S ATTENTION FROM THE CURRENT BURNING
ISSUE? WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE GAMBIA ISN'T A PRO/CON YAYA JAMMEH ISSUE
ANYMORE. IT RAISES A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION ABOUT OUR SURVIVAL AS A NATION.
FURTHER, IF FOR NOTHING ELSE, BASIC DECENCY DICTATES THAT EVERY GAMBIAN WHO
TRULY CARES ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR NATION SHOW SOME SYMPATHY FOR WHAT
HAPPENED LAST WEEK. IT THEREFORE SICKENS ME TO SEE SOMEONE NOT ONLY FAIL TO
DO THAT, BUT INSTEAD TRY TO USE DEVIATIONARY TACTICS TO DIVERT OUR ATTENTION
FROM WHAT OUGHT TO BE "THE" ISSUE RIGHT NOW. SOME OF US DO USE OUR SENSE YOU
KNOW. SO, NO WOLF IN SHEEP CLOTHING WILL FOOL MANY! WHO GIVES A HOOT WHAT
MALIAN WOMEN DO TO THEMSELVES? THE UNCOVERING OF PHONIES CONTINUES ...
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You are absolutely right and not even a single supporter of the Yaya regime on this list
is yet to come out and condemn this horrible act.However they must understand that the Gambia
belongs to all of us, governments come and go but the Gambia and the Gambian people will
always remain.
Thanxxxxx
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> IS THIS AN ATTEMPT TO DIVERT PEOPLE'S ATTENTION FROM THE CURRENT BURNING
> ISSUE? WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE GAMBIA ISN'T A PRO/CON YAYA JAMMEH ISSUE
> ANYMORE. IT RAISES A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION ABOUT OUR SURVIVAL AS A NATION.
> FURTHER, IF FOR NOTHING ELSE, BASIC DECENCY DICTATES THAT EVERY GAMBIAN WHO
> TRULY CARES ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR NATION SHOW SOME SYMPATHY FOR WHAT
> HAPPENED LAST WEEK. IT THEREFORE SICKENS ME TO SEE SOMEONE NOT ONLY FAIL TO
> DO THAT, BUT INSTEAD TRY TO USE DEVIATIONARY TACTICS TO DIVERT OUR ATTENTION
> FROM WHAT OUGHT TO BE "THE" ISSUE RIGHT NOW. SOME OF US DO USE OUR SENSE YOU
> KNOW. SO, NO WOLF IN SHEEP CLOTHING WILL FOOL MANY! WHO GIVES A HOOT WHAT
> MALIAN WOMEN DO TO THEMSELVES? THE UNCOVERING OF PHONIES CONTINUES ...
>
> Saul.
>
> >From the BBC
> >
> >Malian women have been warned to avoid the skin lighteners
> >
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Dear Sir,
Could you kindly help me to get the following e-mail
addresses,
1.Deyda Hydara`s e-mail address or The Point
newspaper.
2.The Independent newspaper`s e-mail
address.
3.The Observer newspaper`s e-mail address
I am urgently in need of these addresses,to voice out my views in the
events of
our massacred children last week.I read Ebrima Drammeh`s interview with
Pap
Cheyassin Secka on the (Who`s on) newspaper where he was named as" the
Gambia`s Nelson Mandela".I was very much surprised that,he said,he did
not regret
anything in the 1981 coup, even the lost lives was not regreted.He is
now the
man in charge of the laws of the Gambia.People should take a closer look
at
this man, who is out to revenge on any unlucky person.His target is to
be the
President of the Gambia, to make a proper revenge to his enemies.
I was driven from the Gambia with my family since 1994 by this man and
he was ready to do everything to see me in jail.He used that corrupt
justice system and backed a Nigerian criminal,who was a jugde, who won
his case against me.
My proof is that,my case with Mr Onyia was taken in a court where Onyia
was the
head of that court house(The Banjul Magistrate`s Court). He became the
complainant,the prosecutor and the jugde with the backing of
Nelson Mandela`s power in the new regime.Iwill never
forget Pap
Cheyassin Secka and now is the real time to be more sympathetic with our
fellow
Gambians that,such a man has come to power.
My passport was seized in 1994 at the Banjul Magistrate`s Court by the
man i was
going to court with but i was able to travel to Sweden without a
passport and then
later on, get the whole of family here with me.I will not come to the
Gambia until
the time that,justice will prevail on my side.
Nelson Mandela came out from prison and reconciled with all his enemies
and
forgave those who did bad to him.He negotiated to solve differences
between
people and governments and also sympathized with people he was
ruling.
Now that,Pap Cheyassin Secka is called the Gambia´s NELSON MANDELA,
IS HE GOING TO DO THE SAME AS HIS NAMESAKE?
IS HE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT,JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL FOR
ALL THE CITIZENS?
The test has began,let us wait and see.I hope,he will try to organize a
truth and
reconcilation committee, to heal the wounds in the Gambia.
I would be very grateful, if you could publish the above on your
newspapers because these are facts.As we all know,"facts are stubborn
things and whatever may be our wishes,our inclinations,or the dictates
of
our passion,they cannot alter the state of facts and
evidence".Therefore,these facts should be sent to my fellow
Gambians.
I am extending my condolences to the bereaved families following the
students
demonstations.I also express my sympathy for the wounded and wish them a
speedy recovery by the grace of Allah.
I hope Nelson Mandela will bring the perpetrators to justice,as
promised.
From,
Elhajj Mustapha Sheikh Omar Fye
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The Daily Observer did not do justice to the Nigerian High Commissioner
because they misquoted him and admitted doing so in today's issue of the
Observer. The Correction, placed on the back page of the paper reads:
Re: What the diplomats say: April 17, back page.
Ayuba Jacob Ngbako, Nigerian High Commissioner.
The first paragraph should have read:
" I advise the government, parents and all others concern to treat this
incident as a national issue.
PEACE
TOMBONG
Gambia-l,
The Daily Observer has done a disser
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>Peter:
>we share your outrage with the Nigerian High Commissioner. However, the
>language used in your first sentence doesn't seem appropriate for this
>forum. Please take note.
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The Daily Observer did not do justice to the Nigerian High Commissioner
because they misquoted him and admitted doing so in today's issue of the
Observer. The Correction, placed on the back page of the paper reads:
Re: What the diplomats say: April 17, back page.
Ayuba Jacob Ngbako, Nigerian High Commissioner.
The first paragraph should have read:
" I advise the government, parents and all others concern to treat this
incident as a national(not normal) issue.
PEACE
TOMBONG
Gambia-l,
The Daily Observer has done a disser
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>Peter:
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>language used in your first sentence doesn't seem appropriate for this
>forum. Please take note.
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Well Elhadj Mustafa Fye, by the very fact that Pap Cheyassin has embroiled
himself with the Jammeh regime, he has virtually guaranteed that he will
never be the president of our country. I cannot imagine any sane Gambian
voting for him to hold even the post of emptying latrine pots at government
offices if there were such a post, much less as our President.
Jabou Joh
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<< Dear Sir,
Could you kindly help me to get the following e-mail
addresses,
1.Deyda Hydara`s e-mail address or The Point
newspaper.
2.The Independent newspaper`s e-mail
address.
3.The Observer newspaper`s e-mail address
I am urgently in need of these addresses,to voice out my views in the
events of
our massacred children last week.I read Ebrima Drammeh`s interview with
Pap
Cheyassin Secka on the (Who`s on) newspaper where he was named as" the
Gambia`s Nelson Mandela".I was very much surprised that,he said,he did
not regret
anything in the 1981 coup, even the lost lives was not regreted.He is
now the
man in charge of the laws of the Gambia.People should take a closer look
at
this man, who is out to revenge on any unlucky person.His target is to
be the
President of the Gambia, to make a proper revenge to his enemies.
I was driven from the Gambia with my family since 1994 by this man and
he was ready to >>
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My apologies to all. I forgot to mention that nay editing or additions to
this letter are welcome. For instance, I think we should address it to the
Senegalese public also.I also think we should send a copy to Amnesty
International headquarters, as well as to their Gambia Desk officer, and to
various newspapers in Senegal and the sub-region. Please give your comments
on that. I am sure the editing and additions can be done without affecting
any signatures that have already been added. Thanks.Text is below, so feel
free. I am also urging those people in Gambia to please take the time to add
their signatures.Let us save the lives of these fleeing students, it is the
least we can do.May I also mention that this is rather urgent.
Jabou Joh
<< G-L,
Here is a copy of a letter I sent to the Senegalese government on behalf of
the students who have fled to Senegal, and whose repatriation is being sought
by the regime in Gambia. May I request that Mr Njai put this at the petition
website, and may I request one and all to please go there and add your
signature so we can send this out as soon as possible. Thanks to all.
Jabou Joh
To: The Government of Senegal.
From: All Justice loving Gambians .
Dear President Wade.
We have been notified that the Gambia government has requested Senegal to
repatriate the students who have fled into Senegal to save their lives from
the murderous regime in Gambia that has already killed our children in cold
blood, and who are now hunting these students like wild animals.
We call upon you as a neighbour and as a brother who has the best interest
of the Gambian people at heart, not to turn our students over to this regime
who will probably turture and murder them. Some of the students who have been
detained by the Gambia Security forces have not been charged or allowed
visits with their families, and the whereabouts of some of these students in
the hands of the security forces have not been made known to the public or
their families, even though the government has said that they will conduct a
thorough and fair investigation. Time and experience has shown us that we
cannot put any trust in the promises given by this regime.
It is also a general concensus by all sober thinking Gambians, as well as
all justice loving people the World over, that the security forces opened
fire on students when they were exercising their constitutional right to
demonstrate against what was seen as a gross miscarriage of justice. Two of
their fellow students were killed and raped respectively without the
government making any attempts to bring the culprits to justice, and this was
the reason for the demonstration . Infact,of the two cases the students were
protesting , the rape case was not even looked into, and in the murder case,
the autopsy report was falsified and the perpetrators left to go scot free
until this tragedy forced them to say that the perpetrators are now in
custody. Time will tell if this claim is true.
We implore you in the name of all that binds our two countries together,
and these are many, from blood relationships to a timeless common history,
not to repatriate these students to what could undoubtedly be a dismal end
for such young lives.
The atrocity of firing live bullets into a crowd of young demonstartors was
perpetrated on our country by the government of the day, and yet, the best
thing they have given the Gambian people is a shameless denial, and a failure
to face up to the responsibility of inflicting this tragedy on our once
peaceful and peace loving country.We wish from the bottom of our hearts that
this regime would remove itself from the backs of the Gambian people once and
for all.
Ours is a dictatorship where nothing happens without the blessing of our
President, and yet, he stood before the Gambian public and pretended that he
was not responsible for this atrocity. Why then are his enforcers hunting
down our children in cold blood? This denial and callousness is a nightmare
that is hovering over the heads of all Gambians the Whole World over. We are
desolate, and in the grips of nightmares since this terrible inhumane act,
the likes of which we never envisioned occurring in our country. We implore
you not to worsen this nightmare for us by repatriating our children to their
doom.
From all indications,, it is clear that every attempt is being made to
inflict even more pain and human rights abuses on these students with this
endless witch hunt, and the rampant arrest of students all over the country
since this tragedy unfolded.
We implore you in the name of Allah almighty, as a brother and a neighbour,
to make every attempt to save the lives of these poor Gambian students by not
only refraining from repatriating them, but also to do everything in your
power to ensure their safety in Senegal.We put you in charge of their lives
with the confidence that this trust will not be betrayed. Thank you.
Sincerely,
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Thanks mr. Janneh for ur caution and i do take note. Will like to apologise
to Mr. Jammeh,Ambassador and Tombong for any inconveniences caused in
relation to my choice of words towards them personally. I hope, they find it
in their hearts to pardon me. And that goes to all the readership of this
forum as a whole.
However, i would still like reiterate my disgust and unshaken condemnations
to what transpired on the 10th and the 11th of this month to our innocent
future leaders whose only crime was to exercise their democratic citizenry
rights of demonstrating against a seemly non-amalgamating justice system.
Furthermore, i also held Jammeh responsible,as the incumbent of the
presidency and the commander in chief of the armed forces to what happened
either in his presence or in his absence. Equally, responsible are all the
functionaries of the government including Tombong for not coming out with
the plain truth but rather mystifying us with half truths,denials and
sanctimonious excuses. These however, do not add any sugar to my cup of tea.
kittos
peter
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>Peter:
>we share your outrage with the Nigerian High Commissioner. However, the
>language used in your first sentence doesn't seem appropriate for this
>forum. Please take note.
>
>Amadou Scattred Janneh
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Is this man really living in our human planet or is he in coo-coo's land?! I
asked, cuz in this very trying moment in our nation's history of sadness and
mourning, this guy, does not have anything to offer but highlighting the
effects of SKIN....What was that.
Mr. Jarju, have u heard the news of late, that there had been a student
massacre en mass in THE GAMBIA.
Or did that escape ur " computer engineering intelligence" or is it part of
the designed web of strategies to misguided and divert our attention from
the search of the truth as perpetuated by other Jammeh contemporaries.
Please give us a break with this sort invalidated stories and try something
else.
kittos
peter
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>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:54:57 -0700
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>From the BBC
>
>Malian women have been warned to avoid the skin lighteners
>
>By Joan Baxter
>
>The use of bleaching creams to lighten complexions seems to have reached
>epidemic proportions in Mali, despite widespread education campaigns.
>
>Women who refuse to bleach often find themselves regarded as second class
>citizens.
>
>A woman who did not bleach her skin said she is often not offered a chair
>at baptisms, and is asked to make herself scarce when group photographs are
>taken at marriages.
>
>A quick survey shows there are more than 100 bleaching products available
>on the market in the capital, Bamako.
>
>Sold under brand names such as Marie-Claire or Diana, the products come
>from Morocco, Nigeria, the United States or Saudi Arabia.
>
>Pain
>
>Dermatologists estimate that more than half the women in Mali are now using
>these creams to lighten their skin. These products are costly and often
>cause pain and blemishes.
>
>So why are so many women in Mali using them? The answer is simple,
>according to one Malian woman singer: The creams make her white, and impart
>a certain charm.
>
>But Malian physician Dr Ali Gindo finds bleached skin anything but
>charming.
>
>"They are just burning themselves," he says. "It's painful and it's awful."
>
>Dr Gindo says bleaching can cause skin cancer and the poorest people are
>the most at risk, because the cheaper the product, the more dangerous it
>is.
>
>But he says it is not just poor women are bleaching their skin.
>
>Role models
>
>"We have also people who are well educated like lawyers, writers or
>professors, or people on the TV - and this is a real problem because if
>people who are leaders of opinion bleach themselves, you can imagine how
>deep the problem is."
>
>Many of the women who use these products told me they do so because Malian
>men prefer women with bleached skin.
>
>But male musician Al Hassan Soumali disagrees.
>
>"I don't think Malian men like bleached women," he says. "It's better for
>Malian women to change their minds."
>
>
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Hi Mafy,
It is nice to have you back and your piece has proved the insensibility =
of a true Jammeh supporter. You want to inform us of what Malian women =
are doing to themselves but you ignore the fact that a Gambian woman, =
who deputised for your idol, had ordered her troops to shoot and kill =
innocent children. As far as Gambians are concerned that woman, who also =
bleaches her skin, is more cancerous than all Malian skin bleachers. =
Never before in the history of Africa, and the world for that matter, =
has a woman leader been so heartless and unmotherly to her helpless =
citizens.
As a staunch Jammeh supporter, one expects you to come up with some =
explanations as to why defenceless kids were cold-bloodedly gunned down =
by a regime you so tirelessly defend. Once more it is nice to have you =
back in the fold and try to be a little sensitive to what has happened =
in the Gambia.=20
Prince Coker
P.S.
Skin bleaching can wait.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Malafy Jarju=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 11:54 PM
Subject: Skin bleach, do our men really prefer pale women?
From the BBC
Malian women have been warned to avoid the skin lighteners
By Joan Baxter
The use of bleaching creams to lighten complexions seems to have =
reached epidemic proportions in Mali, despite widespread education =
campaigns.
Women who refuse to bleach often find themselves regarded as second =
class citizens.
A woman who did not bleach her skin said she is often not offered a =
chair at baptisms, and is asked to make herself scarce when group =
photographs are taken at marriages.
A quick survey shows there are more than 100 bleaching products =
available on the market in the capital, Bamako.
Sold under brand names such as Marie-Claire or Diana, the products =
come from Morocco, Nigeria, the United States or Saudi Arabia.
Pain
Dermatologists estimate that more than half the women in Mali are now =
using these creams to lighten their skin. These products are costly and =
often cause pain and blemishes.
So why are so many women in Mali using them? The answer is simple, =
according to one Malian woman singer: The creams make her white, and =
impart a certain charm.
But Malian physician Dr Ali Gindo finds bleached skin anything but =
charming.
"They are just burning themselves," he says. "It's painful and it's =
awful."
Dr Gindo says bleaching can cause skin cancer and the poorest people =
are the most at risk, because the cheaper the product, the more =
dangerous it is.
But he says it is not just poor women are bleaching their skin.
Role models
"We have also people who are well educated like lawyers, writers or =
professors, or people on the TV - and this is a real problem because if =
people who are leaders of opinion bleach themselves, you can imagine how =
deep the problem is."
Many of the women who use these products told me they do so because =
Malian men prefer women with bleached skin.
But male musician Al Hassan Soumali disagrees.
"I don't think Malian men like bleached women," he says. "It's better =
for Malian women to change their minds."
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is nice to have you back and =
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us of=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As a staunch Jammeh supporter, one =
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Prince Coker</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Skin bleaching can wait.</FONT></DIV>
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creams to=20
lighten complexions seems to have reached epidemic proportions in =
Mali,=20
despite widespread education campaigns.<BR><BR>Women who refuse to =
bleach=20
often find themselves regarded as second class citizens.<BR><BR>A =
woman who=20
did not bleach her skin said she is often not offered a chair at =
baptisms, and=20
is asked to make herself scarce when group photographs are taken at=20
marriages.<BR><BR>A quick survey shows there are more than 100 =
bleaching=20
products available on the market in the capital, Bamako.<BR><BR>Sold =
under=20
brand names such as Marie-Claire or Diana, the products come from =
Morocco,=20
Nigeria, the United States or Saudi =
Arabia.<BR><BR>Pain<BR><BR>Dermatologists=20
estimate that more than half the women in Mali are now using these =
creams to=20
lighten their skin. These products are costly and often cause pain and =
blemishes.<BR><BR>So why are so many women in Mali using them? The =
answer is=20
simple, according to one Malian woman singer: The creams make her =
white, and=20
impart a certain charm.<BR><BR>But Malian physician Dr Ali Gindo finds =
bleached skin anything but charming.<BR><BR>"They are just burning=20
themselves," he says. "It's painful and it's awful."<BR><BR>Dr Gindo =
says=20
bleaching can cause skin cancer and the poorest people are the most at =
risk,=20
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writers=20
or professors, or people on the TV - and this is a real problem =
because if=20
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how deep=20
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me they=20
do so because Malian men prefer women with bleached skin.<BR><BR>But =
male=20
musician Al Hassan Soumali disagrees.<BR><BR>"I don't think Malian men =
like=20
bleached women," he says. "It's better for Malian women to change =
their=20
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Jabou:
This is a fine letter and I think you should proceed with it. On a
later date we should also write to President Wade for him to insist on
free and fair elections in The Gambia.
With the recent murders by the Jammeh regime, public opinion is against
him. Under free and fair elections Jammeh is more than likely to be
thrown out.
Keep up the good work.
Abdoulaye
No justice, no peace!
Jammeh Must Go!
Jabou Joh wrote:
>
> My apologies to all. I forgot to mention that nay editing or additions to
> this letter are welcome. For instance, I think we should address it to the
> Senegalese public also.I also think we should send a copy to Amnesty
> International headquarters, as well as to their Gambia Desk officer, and to
> various newspapers in Senegal and the sub-region. Please give your comments
> on that. I am sure the editing and additions can be done without affecting
> any signatures that have already been added. Thanks.Text is below, so feel
> free. I am also urging those people in Gambia to please take the time to add
> their signatures.Let us save the lives of these fleeing students, it is the
> least we can do.May I also mention that this is rather urgent.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> << G-L,
>
> Here is a copy of a letter I sent to the Senegalese government on behalf of
> the students who have fled to Senegal, and whose repatriation is being sought
> by the regime in Gambia. May I request that Mr Njai put this at the petition
> website, and may I request one and all to please go there and add your
> signature so we can send this out as soon as possible. Thanks to all.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> To: The Government of Senegal.
> From: All Justice loving Gambians .
>
> Dear President Wade.
>
> We have been notified that the Gambia government has requested Senegal to
> repatriate the students who have fled into Senegal to save their lives from
> the murderous regime in Gambia that has already killed our children in cold
> blood, and who are now hunting these students like wild animals.
>
> We call upon you as a neighbour and as a brother who has the best interest
> of the Gambian people at heart, not to turn our students over to this regime
> who will probably turture and murder them. Some of the students who have been
> detained by the Gambia Security forces have not been charged or allowed
> visits with their families, and the whereabouts of some of these students in
> the hands of the security forces have not been made known to the public or
> their families, even though the government has said that they will conduct a
> thorough and fair investigation. Time and experience has shown us that we
> cannot put any trust in the promises given by this regime.
>
> It is also a general concensus by all sober thinking Gambians, as well as
> all justice loving people the World over, that the security forces opened
> fire on students when they were exercising their constitutional right to
> demonstrate against what was seen as a gross miscarriage of justice. Two of
> their fellow students were killed and raped respectively without the
> government making any attempts to bring the culprits to justice, and this was
> the reason for the demonstration . Infact,of the two cases the students were
> protesting , the rape case was not even looked into, and in the murder case,
> the autopsy report was falsified and the perpetrators left to go scot free
> until this tragedy forced them to say that the perpetrators are now in
> custody. Time will tell if this claim is true.
>
> We implore you in the name of all that binds our two countries together,
> and these are many, from blood relationships to a timeless common history,
> not to repatriate these students to what could undoubtedly be a dismal end
> for such young lives.
>
> The atrocity of firing live bullets into a crowd of young demonstartors was
> perpetrated on our country by the government of the day, and yet, the best
> thing they have given the Gambian people is a shameless denial, and a failure
> to face up to the responsibility of inflicting this tragedy on our once
> peaceful and peace loving country.We wish from the bottom of our hearts that
> this regime would remove itself from the backs of the Gambian people once and
> for all.
>
> Ours is a dictatorship where nothing happens without the blessing of our
> President, and yet, he stood before the Gambian public and pretended that he
> was not responsible for this atrocity. Why then are his enforcers hunting
> down our children in cold blood? This denial and callousness is a nightmare
> that is hovering over the heads of all Gambians the Whole World over. We are
> desolate, and in the grips of nightmares since this terrible inhumane act,
> the likes of which we never envisioned occurring in our country. We implore
> you not to worsen this nightmare for us by repatriating our children to their
> doom.
>
> From all indications,, it is clear that every attempt is being made to
> inflict even more pain and human rights abuses on these students with this
> endless witch hunt, and the rampant arrest of students all over the country
> since this tragedy unfolded.
>
> We implore you in the name of Allah almighty, as a brother and a neighbour,
> to make every attempt to save the lives of these poor Gambian students by not
> only refraining from repatriating them, but also to do everything in your
> power to ensure their safety in Senegal.We put you in charge of their lives
> with the confidence that this trust will not be betrayed. Thank you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
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Oh ye mere mortals, ye have pillaged and plundered (with impunity ye
thinketh, dumbass) that which hath taken me 7 glorious days to create.
One of these days, when ye hear a voice say come ye idiot, come into me your
lord GOD, where ye gonna run to??????
Y gonna run to the rock for there will be no kaniiiiiilier. Remember y sodom
and gommorath. My rath is immeasurable.
I gave them life , y snuffeth like a candle in the wind. I gave them freedom
to choose in their hearts between good and evil, the power to even ignore me
if they so chooseth, yet y wouldn't even let them march and air their
grievances.
YAYA.........!!!!!!!!!!!
this is God; WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT, DISMISS ALL YOUR
IDIOTS, HYPOCRATS, YOUR INCOMPETENT CABINET,
AND ALL YOUR ASS-LICKERS. RETIRE YOURSELF, THEN COMMIT
SUICIDE.
Come unto me for I am God your Lord.
It is too late for you to salvage anything, y don't even have any guts or
spine left. Y are unfit to dwell among my heavenly creatures anymore.
Come unto me for I am God your lord.
When y'll mere mortals are said and done, yeah......
then y'll shall come unto me. We have a nice special cozy pace for just the
likes of you. Your comrades incarnage shall be there; there will be hitler
and his SS; mussolini; pol pot; idi amin; and all them other madmen. there
will also be SATAN in all his fiery insolence telling you " i told u so, i
told u i shall lead you to a scrumptous bbq". only he failed to tell you
that it shall be of y own flesh
NJAGA JAGNE
FRANKFORT, KY
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Yesterday, in reply to a letter from Halifa Sallah regarding what to do
next, I suggested that people call on the Attorney General to appoint an
independent prosecutor (preferably a human rights activists from outside The
Gambia) to prosecute criminals who perpetrated these heinous acts. This
prosecution, if done correctly, will lead us straight to Yaya. I have little
doubt about that. I know if someone lower than Yaya was responsible for
this, that person would be a dead man or woman by now. However, am not that
familiar with the Constitution of The Gambia to know the provisions that
relate to the treatment of the president when he is accused of crimes while
in office. I hope they can at least impeach him and throw him out of office
and then prosecute him. Again I defer to constitutional lawyers on this
matter. Please don't just dismiss what am saying by saying to yourself that
these are just theories and Yaya cannot be held accountable. Everybody in
The Gambia is accountable. If the students were prepared to demonstrate
because one of their colleagues was killed and another one raped, imagine
what will happen if they believe that the government is dragging its feet in
bringing to justice murderers of 14 people. But the students and the Gambian
population at large have to have something to work with. The government has
to be seen to be dragging its feet. The best way to challenge them now is to
force the Attorney General to appoint that prosecutor. This is an open and
shut case. Yaya inadvertently admitted that he was aware of what was going
on and again I haven't heard that the VP or the Interior minister or the
army chief have been fired or jailed or shot before a firing squad.
secondly, even Tombong conceded that it was remarkable that none of the
security forces were shot at. So there is little doubt as to where the chips
should fall here. Our task is to force the government to acknowledge that.
The same sense of justice that motivated the school children on April 10
will again come into play when justice is not seen to be done in this case.
I hope list members who know human rights lawyers would come forward and
suggest to the Attorney General to appoint an independent prosecutor.
KB
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G-L Family,
Out here in Norway, as in other places, we`re equally busy at work since =
the bombshell of April 10th and 11th the shrapnels of which have reached =
and affected every nook and crany of Gambian society whether home or =
abroad. Concerned citizens and friends of The Gambia are showing =
enthusiasm and expressing their solidarity in condeming this madness =
being perpetrated by the government. There is one common unifying force =
that has brought us together, and what we are asking for is not much. We =
are only asking for JUSTICE to take its right accord and an end to a =
reign of terror!
In this light, a petition has been drafted to be sent to Amnesty`s =
Norwegian chapter, Red cross, and The Norwegian Foreign Ministry. We`re =
trying to get in touch with the press, especially papers like =
"Klassekampen"(Class struggle), VG and Universitas the largest student =
mouth piece in Norway to help make our plight known to the Norwegian =
people. Already many people have signed the petition, and made =
contributions. It`s easter break here and that means everything closes =
down until next Tuesday at which time we`re planning to hold a meeting =
to lay out more plans and strategies and to make more collections. There =
is a proposal to cordinate and work together with The Gambian community =
in Denmark so that our demos could take place simultaneously.
Talking about respect and earning it, "that woman" is yet to earn one. I =
assume she must have heard of the Kenyan lady Wangari Maathai who =
launches protests against reckless developments by the Kenyan =
government. When Moi wanted to erect a 62- story office tower in Uhuru =
Park, Wangari and her band of mothers and grandmothers forced the =
dictator to back down. She has earned my respect. She is the type of =
daughter, sister, mother, grandmother and leader Africa needs. She is =
powerful, independent and strong and can move a mountain! But the one we =
have home who is being programmed and directed like a robbot, LORD HAVE =
MERCY.=20
Happy Holiday to you all.
Regards,
Omar.
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Nice piece Njags, keep on telling him and keep the home fires burning.
Prince Coker
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Oh ye mere mortals, ye have pillaged and plundered (with impunity ye
thinketh, dumbass) that which hath taken me 7 glorious days to create.
One of these days, when ye hear a voice say come ye idiot, come into =
me your
lord GOD, where ye gonna run to??????
Y gonna run to the rock for there will be no kaniiiiiilier. Remember y =
sodom
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How many of you think Tombong is a threat to this List? Isn't he an
informer poking into our plans to get rid of the 'Jammeh Crime Team'
or is he a man of noble deeds? As Director of Radio and Television,
isn't it his duty to inform the masses,tax-payers may I add who pays their
salaries, about the incidents that occurred recently? Well, if you answer
yes to all these 3 questions,then am I wrong for suggesting that Mr Tombong
is a total hypocrite, a disservice to the Gambian People and should be
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I was telling a Senegalese friend of mine the other day that in the wake of
their victory, they still need to be more vigilant; no sleeping, no dozing
off! It is usually at the height of our excitement that the thief comes in
to steal our conscience. I have few comments on some of the issues mentioned
in this forum.
Amensty Inernational
The Gambia branch of Amnesty International was formed in September 1992.
Since then its membership has grown all the way to Tujereng, not without
much effort. I was surprised to know that Tombong Saidy is a board member
of this organization. While Amnesty does not discriminate against anybody
for his political or other beliefs, it looks rather odd that Tombong will
belong to an organization whose objectives are, inter alia, to:
* Free all prisoners of conscience detained anywhere for their beliefs or
because of their ethnic origin, sex, colour or language -- who have not used
or advocated violence;
* Ensure fair and prompt trials for political prisoners;
* Abolish the death penalty, torture and other cruel treatment of prisoners;
* End extrajudicial executions and “disappearances.”
The present government is guilty of all the above. As the unofficial
mouthpiece and ardent defender of the APRC government it would be unethical
for Tombong to continue his membership with Amnesty International. For
further information about Amnesty International (Gambia) you may reach them
at (220)494140.
Radio Liberté?
I think it would be a good idea to have a radio station air the concerns of
Gambians regarding the abuse of power by the APRC government. However, I
doubt if any African country, Senegal the least, will want to be the host of
such a station. The new leadership in Senegal may not want to ask for more
trouble by openly challenging President Jammeh to hostilities. The
Casamance is already too hot a cake to handle. The traditional cat and mouse
game between the two countries should be stopped. And I believe Wade's
pan-africanist sentiments will make him think twice about this. In my
opinion, the only solution is to continue demanding for a free press and
mass media tools that are equally accessible to all Gambians. When
Baboucarr Gueye's Citizen FM was arbitrarily closed down we vented our anger
here and there and let the issue slide into history. If the political
parties and all of us do not act now, the next victim will be Radio 1 FM.
Intellectuals/Intelligentia
This is the mouthful word that we spit out sometimes to express our disgust.
This is the most volatile and malleable class of African societies. When
small semi-literate boys pick up guns and take over power its the
intellectuals that jump in to write their verbose and deceitful decrees;
when a corrupt civilian government wants to perpetuate itself in authority
they doctor the constitution to the effect; when it's time to cry foul
against injustice they hide behind their doors in offices and academic
institutions and let the "boys" do the talk. No doubt that the Ghanaian
Professor Dr. George Ayittey called them "prostitutes" in his book "Africa
in Chaos", (excuse my language). Most of us are aware that there are Gambian
intellectuals lecturing in high academic institutions in the West and who
are currently peeping in Gambia-L, but with the notable exception of Dr.
Abdoulaye Saine and one or two others, all of them are drowned in their
academic pride to participate in this forum while we are facing a national
tragedy. Some would wait for us to talk the talk and walk the walk then
they will publish some high sounding research article to add some weight to
their resumé.
Folks, there should be no room for complacency or naiveté. Let's not imagine
that President Jammeh and his government will just get up and pack. It's
through pressure, pressure and pressure that the APRC government will
crumble at our feet. It may afterall be Dr. Katim Touray's version of the
stick.
Hamadi.
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Why Did He Die?
Jesus put the kingdom of God up against Caesar. And that act led to a political execution that launched a major world religion
By Jeffery L. Sheler
After they had gathered, Pilate said to them, "Whom do you want me to release for you, Barabbas or Jesus who is called the Christ?" . . . And they said, "Barabbas." Pilate said to them, "Then what should I do with Jesus who is called the Christ?" All of them said, "Let him be crucified!" Then he asked, "Why, what evil has he done?" But they shouted all the more, "Let him be crucified!" So when Pilate saw that he could do nothing . . . he took some water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying, "I am innocent of this man's blood . . . ." Then the people as a whole answered, "His blood be on us and on our children!" So he released Barabbas for them; and after flogging Jesus, he handed him over to be crucified.
It is called the Passion–the dramatic Gospel accounts of the suffering and death of Jesus Christ in Jerusalem nearly 2,000 years ago. And in its faithful retelling, no story in history has evoked more passion. To the apostle Paul, the Crucifixion of Jesus was the very heart of the Gospel, "the power of God unto salvation." Early-church martyrs faced persecution and death emboldened by the familiar stories of Jesus's suffering at the hands of his enemies. And in every generation since, Christians have found spiritual sustenance in the story of Christ's sacrificial death recounted in the rich symbolism of the Eucharist and in annual observances of Holy Week. As Christians around the world celebrate the liturgy and pageantry of this Easter season, they will retrace once again the familiar Bible narrative, grieving the betrayal of an innocent Savior, mourning his lonely death on a common cross, and rejoicing in his vindication in the miracle of the Resurrection.
But while the Gospel story has inspired piety and devotion through the centuries, it also has spawned darker passions. From the rise of the Holy Roman Empire to the fall of the Third Reich and even today, purveyors of antisemitism have sought to justify their prejudices by appealing to the Gospels' depiction of Jews as jealous villains who plotted against Christianity's founder. Such hatefulness permeates Western culture. The famous Oberammergau Passion Play in Germany, which until recent years depicted the Jewish priests as demonlike villains wearing horned hats, has been a perennial sore spot in Christian-Jewish relations. Even performances of Bach's Easter oratorio, the St. John Passion, have been picketed by protesters offended by its negative references to "the Jews" drawn from the text of John.
Antisemitism in not-so-subtle forms has at times been abetted at the high- est levels of organized religion. For centuries, the Good Friday liturgy of the Roman Catholic Church included prayers "for the perfidious Jews." Only at the Second Vatican Council in the mid- 1960s did the church officially repudiate the concept of "deicide"–a term historically associated with Jews as "Christ killers." And just this year, Pope John Paul II apologized for Christianity's sins against Jews.
Some doubt whether, despite the sincerest remorse, Christianity can ever fully repent of antisemitic excesses when the New Testament is permeated with passages that seem to cast "the Jews" as enemies of Jesus and of the church. But some scholars of the historical Jesus contend that such passages contain more polemics than real history, reflecting conflicts that arose between Christians and Jews late in the first century A.D.–when the Gospels were being written and Christianity was evolving from a messianic Jewish sect into a predominantly gentile religion. "As long as Christians were the marginalized and disenfranchised ones," says New Testament scholar John Dominic Crossan in his 1995 book Who Killed Jesus?, "such Passion fiction about Jewish responsibility and Roman innocence did nobody much harm. But, once the Roman Empire became Christian, that fiction turned lethal."
Storytellers. Still, other scholars maintain that while later Jewish-Christian conflicts may have colored some of the rhetoric, the New Testament stories preserve the "historical core" of the events surrounding the Passion. The Gospel writers, says Scot McKnight, a religious-studies professor at North Park University in Chicago, "were not attempting to give a careful piece of history as to why Jesus died." They were telling "the story of Jesus–a story that has within it conflicts with Jewish leaders and with Roman leaders." While the precise nature of those antagonisms may not be fully explained, he says, "the Gospel writers give us enough evidence to see that a complex set of factors" led to Jesus's death.
Indeed, from a historian's point of view, the events leading up to Jesus's death remain a tantalizing puzzle. First of all, his arrest and execution came during a week that began with public adulation as Jesus entered Jerusalem to shouts of "Hosanna!" and ended with angry crowds shouting, "Crucify him!" According to the Gospels, Jesus was arrested by order of the Jerusalem high priest, who accused him of blasphemy; he was tried before the Sanhedrin, a council of Jewish officials; was delivered to Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor and chief judicial officer of Judea; and was condemned to crucifixion for claiming to be king of the Jews, an act of sedition in the view of Roman officials. But the seeming simplicity of the story line belies some bewildering complexities involving the charges and evidence against Jesus, the motives of his accusers, and the swiftness and ruthlessness of his execution.
Scholars begin their search for answers with historical reconstruction of Jesus himself. Who was he, whom did he claim to be, and how was he regarded by others of his time? What might he have said and done during his brief ministry that the authorities turned so viciously against him? Recent revisionist portraits have run the gamut from "Jesus the Cynic Sage" (a social critic who spoke in witty aphorisms) and "Jesus the Palestinian Revolutionary" (who subverted economic and social tyranny) to "Jesus the Spirit Person and Social Prophet" (a mystic who preached cultural compassion).
Whatever elements of truth these depictions may contain, a broad scholarly consensus today affirms first the indisputable Jewishness of Jesus and of the early Christian movement. The Judaism of Jesus's day, most scholars now agree, was not incidental or peripheral to his life and ministry. Raised a Jew in Galilee, he read and revered the Torah, was an ardent defender of Jewish law, and carefully observed the Jewish festivals at the Temple. To attempt to detach Jesus from that religious and cultural context is to obscure a proper understanding of the man and his message. Jesus was "fundamentally a Jewish prophet," observes Darrell Bock, a New Testament professor at Dallas Theological Seminary. "He went to the Jewish people, calling for renewal of the Jewish religion." The Jewish leaders, he says, naturally would have been "concerned by his calls for reform, which threatened the status quo and their own positions."
Political death. Yet this portrait of Jesus as a Jewish reformer does little to explain why he was put to death in the manner that he was. "The single most solid fact [known] about Jesus's life is his death," says Boston University Prof. Paula Fredriksen in her new book, Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews. "He was executed by the Roman prefect Pilate, on or around Passover, in the manner Rome reserved particularly for political insurrectionists, namely, crucifixion."
Moreover, depictions of Jesus as mainly a Jewish religious figure who challenged the authority of Jerusalem's priests, argues Fredriksen, don't explain his "very political, imperial death." Pilate, she contends, "would have known little and cared less about Jewish religious beliefs and intra-Jewish religious controversy." Crossan, the author of Who Killed Jesus?, contends that the Romans went after Jesus because they considered him a political subversive. "From Day 1 in Galilee, Jesus was waging a fron- tal assault on Roman commercialism," Crossan contends. "He opposed the dislocation of peasant life caused by the Roman building boom in Galilee. It's no surprise that he gets himself executed. He's putting the kingdom of God up against Caesar, and he's going to get squashed. It's just a matter of when."
On the most basic level, most scholars today agree that the official responsibility for Jesus's death rests with Pilate, who had the final say at the time in capital-punishment cases. Yet few doubt that Pilate would or could have condemned Jesus without some involvement of the leading Jewish authority in Jerusalem–Caiaphas, the chief Temple priest. "When a government formally executes a prisoner, they take responsibility for it," says Crossan. In that sense, he says, "it's right to say that Pilate and Caiaphas were responsible for the execution of Jesus. They did it because they thought he was a threat to the religious status quo and to Roman law and order."
And what might Jesus have done to make the authorities perceive him as a threat? While it may be customary in Christian tradition to think of Jesus as meek and mild, the Gospels sometimes depict him in a different light. In his 1994 standard work, The Death of the Messiah, the late New Testament scholar Raymond E. Brown says a careful reading of the Gospels reveals "a Jesus capable of generating intense dislike." He easily could have offended religious leaders, says Brown, "if he told people that God wants something different from what they know and have long striven to do, and if he challenged established sacred teaching on his own authority as self-designated spokesman for God."
Enemies list. Yet the extent to which Jewish authorities contributed to the death of Jesus is a complicated issue. The Gospels suggest that opposition to Jesus among Jewish leaders was by no means unanimous. Indeed, at least two members of the Jewish high council–Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus–are portrayed as sympathizers. But he certainly had plenty of enemies among Jewish leaders in Jerusalem. According to the Gospels, he had accused the Pharisees of hypocrisy, challenged the Sadducees' theology, and espoused unconventional interpretations of the Torah. But perhaps most important, what had been perceived by some as his threat to "destroy the Temple" was an affront that neither the priests nor the Romans could tolerate.
But what had Jesus actually said to provoke this accusation? The Gospel authors attribute to him not a threat but a prediction that the Temple would be destroyed–"Do you see these great buildings? Not one stone will be left here upon another; all will be thrown down"–and claim that his enemies falsely accused him of threatening the Temple. And in fact some scholars argue that Jesus probably never said anything like the words ascribed to him in Mark. His prediction so closely presages what the Romans actually did in A.D. 70, they argue, that it almost certainly reflects an attempt by the authors, writing after the destruction of Jerusalem, to enhance Jesus's reputation as a prophet. (Others disagree. As E. P. Sanders argues in The Historical Figure of Jesus, the prediction was not precisely fulfilled. When the Romans destroyed the city some 40 years later, they left much of the Temple's retaining wall intact. Bogus prophecies created after the fact are almost always exact, he points out.)
Beyond Jesus's threatening words were his violent demonstration on the Temple Mount–an incident described in all four Gospels as his "cleansing of the Temple." Nearly all scholars today see the incident as the final straw and the central event that led to his arrest. As the Gospels describe it, shortly after arriving in Jerusalem for the Passover feast, Jesus and his disciples stormed into the Temple, and he began overturning the tables of money-changers and chasing animal vendors out of the court. The high priest had moved the animal stalls to the Temple from a nearby hill, making it easier for pilgrims to buy animals for sacrifice and for Temple authorities to profit from those sales. Jesus, says Bruce Chilton, religion professor at Bard College in New York, would have objected to such crass commercialism attached to the sacred Temple offerings.
The Temple takeover, as Chilton describes it, may have involved as many as 200 zealous followers–perhaps including Barabbas and the two thieves who were crucified with Jesus–and it may have succeeded at least temporarily in disrupting the Temple commerce. That, says Chilton, would have provided ample motivation for both religious and civil authorities to move against Jesus.
Yet if the Jewish authorities had wanted Jesus out of the way, and Pilate consented to do the job, asks Fredriksen, "why not a simple, private murder?" The answer, she says, is that "crucifixion was a Roman form of public-service announcement" intended to get the attention of those watching. The crowds in Jerusalem who earlier had hailed Jesus as "the son of David"–a messianic title–"are the real audience whom Pilate addresses" by sending Jesus to the cross.
Man of the people. It was the crowds assembled for Passover in Jerusalem, Fredriksen argues, not Jesus's close associates, that first proclaimed him Messiah–the prophesied king of Israel. Hearing his authoritative message that the kingdom was at hand, these pilgrims "had no other context to place Jesus in save the one in which they first met him: during the pilgrimage feast in the city of David at Passover, in all the excitement, panoply, and ritual re-enactment of the holiday that commemorated the liberation and redemption of their people," Fredriksen writes. Their enthusiasm for Jesus and his message, she contends, led directly to his death.
Whether or not Pilate thought Jesus was the Messiah–or even if Jesus thought of himself in that way–was not important, says Fredriksen. But the fact that only Jesus was killed–and none of his disciples were–suggests that Pilate did not consider Jesus a real threat. What Pilate did find threatening was a city crowded with messianic pilgrims who believed God was about to intervene on behalf of his people, defeat the Roman occupation, and restore the throne of David in Jerusalem. When the crowds began hailing Jesus as a messiah, Pilate moved swiftly and ruthlessly to squelch a potential uprising.
The disciples who had accompanied Jesus to Jerusalem at Passover, says Fredriksen, were expecting an astounding spiritual event, the arrival of God's kingdom. "What they got instead," she says, "was the Crucifixion." But then the truly unexpected happened: "God, they became convinced, had raised Jesus from the dead." Energized by that belief, they began preaching the arrival of God's kingdom, which they now believed would be fully inaugurated with the Second Coming of the resurrected Christ–an event they expected in their own lifetime.
Four years after that fateful Passover in Jerusalem, both Pilate and Caiaphas–the two men at least officially responsible for Jesus's death–were deposed by the Roman legate in Syria for failing to keep order within Jerusalem. The unpopular "reforms" that Caiaphas had imposed on the Temple–and which apparently had prompted Jesus's violent protest–were reversed. And the small core of Jesus's followers, who had scattered frightened and confused at his Crucifixion, were by then a rapidly growing sect whose astounding message of a risen Messiah was spreading through the synagogues of the region.
Within a few years, a former Pharisee named Saul of Tarsus would carry that message to the commercial towns of Asia Minor and to the imperial city of Rome, where increasing numbers of followers would be drawn into the ranks of this evolving movement. The Roman destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 would deprive Christianity of its Judaic "mother church" and hasten its transmutation from a Jewish sect to a distinctly gentile religion. Yet after 2,000 years, buffeted by the sometimes brutal tides of history, it remains as it was in the beginning–a faith rooted in the life and teachings of an enigmatic Jewish rabbi whose vision of God's kingdom and whose death on a Roman cross would change the world.
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Njagga:
I don't want to sound like a cybercop, but please tailor your choice of adjectives to fit this forum. Use of some words may offend many list members. You are preaching to the choir, so there's virtually no need for using abusive language.
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I would like to get information on July 4th. Soccer Tournament Registration
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I share your concern about Ron Hubbard's theories. If the idealogue behind
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putting this together may have lost their minds. The Church of Scientology is
considered a cult in most countries.
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Mr. Makaveli,
There's no point in un-subscribing Tombong or some of the other spies Yaya
Jammeh have reporting back to him on who is saying what here. Let me give
you a real example: When Essa Bokarr Sey (the Super "Ambassador in Paris")
was in New York, someone on this list flew from Atlanta to New York with a
file on what certain members of this list were saying about Yaya Jammeh and
the APRC. (I bet you don't need me to tell you who that person is. Just
review the behavior of the contributors from Atlanta, and you won't need
Sherlock Holmes.) But, that just shows you how low and stupid some people
really are, 'cause all they need to do is refer the Super Ambassador to the
G-L archives to read the materials for himself! Besides, there are very few
anonymous members on this list. Most members know who is who, and most of us
really have no desire to hide our identity. Why? Because despite all their
brutality, threats and intimidation - or inspite of it, we'll be here long
after this bunch of savages are thrown out of office.
Also, Tombong and his likes would be thrilled to be kicked out of this list,
because then they can genuinely run to Massa Yaya and confirm for him what
he wants everyone to believe: the G-L is nothing but an anti-Jammeh forum.
That people like Tombong don't really bring anything of substance to the
table in terms of intellect or candor would become irrelevant. So, let these
people continue their despicable behavior. Just take comfort in what is
happening to people like Tom Ikimi, Ishmael Gwarzo, and Maj. Hamza Al
Mustafa in Nigeria today. It's the same fate that is awaiting the ilk of
Tombong. Just remember that boring cliche': every dog has it's day! Theirs
is coming, so why help elevate their sense of worth in the service of the
devil?
Saul.
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Greetings,
I am just wondering about the statement last week that new demonstrations
were planned for early this week in the Gambia. Is there any news
regarding this? thank you, Ylva H.
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George
I understand where you are coming from but I disagree with the action you
suggest. Just because we disagree with the man doesnt mean he should be
removed from this list and regarding him being an informer; this is a very
public forum and no matter what we do, anything discussed here will not be
secret. Am sure if Jammeh has any informant(s) here, its not limited to
Tombong. Trust me just because he runs the TV station doesnt mean that he
gets to decide what runs! I guess its his perogative to infrom us by other
means (thru this forum for instance) but I wonder how long he'll last in
that post if he did and I guess he values his job more than our plight.
Pope
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>How many of you think Tombong is a threat to this List? Isn't he an
>informer poking into our plans to get rid of the 'Jammeh Crime Team'
>or is he a man of noble deeds? As Director of Radio and Television,
>isn't it his duty to inform the masses,tax-payers may I add who pays their
>salaries, about the incidents that occurred recently? Well, if you answer
>yes to all these 3 questions,then am I wrong for suggesting that Mr Tombong
>is a total hypocrite, a disservice to the Gambian People and should be
>UNSUBSCRIBED forthwith from this mailing List until further notice. For
>some of you who cares to know the man behind the character, GOTO
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Gambia-L,
I am forwarding these extracts from an e-mail I received from one of my
sources.
Ebrima Ceesay
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Ebrima,
I do not know whether you are aware, but your Internet List (Gambia-L)
is very popular in the Gambia nowadays. In fact, some of the articles on
Gambia L are so good that they are now being photocopied and distributed in
town.
So I wouldn't be surprised if the Government tries to enact a new law to ban
the distribution of Gambia L postings in Gambia. I mean it!
I cautioned you in earlier e-mail not to bite the bait thrown by Tombong.
Well, some on Gambia L did and I swear I could hear some one burp. Amadu
Kabir Njie is one of the few who read the fine print. His "Good over Evil"
was a master piece.
Anyway, the Imams were invited yesterday to State House to WACHE KAMIR or to
recite the Holy Quran. I did not see Imam Muntagga Fye in attendance and was
told that he had declined the invitation. But I couldn't confirm this
information from Imam Muntagga himself.
I'll try to find out from him why he was absent if possible. Also, a roll
will be compiled of all those Imams who participated and I'll send it to you
later this afternoon.
Meanwhile, just keep the pressure so that the students who are detained will
be released. They are still languishing in detention without charge and yet
they are not released.
By the way, President Jammeh is trying to shift the blame to Ousman Badjie
and Isatou Njie-Saidy in order to divert attention, but he doesn't know that
Gambians are far smarter than him. Anyway, don't be surprised if he
sacrifices Ousman Badjie and Isatou Njie-Saidy by sacking them so that he
can get the public siding with him.
However, the fact of the matter is that it was the President, I am quite
sure about that, who ordered the shootings: in reality the two officials
only executed orders from the boss.
Even after Isatou Njie-Saidy told an emergency Cabinet Meeting that the
President had asked her to order the security forces to "open fire on the
students", both Ousman Badjie and Army Chief of Staff Jatta had to cross
check what Isatou said, with President Jammeh in Cuba to make sure that the
orders indeed came from him.
So who is President Jammeh fooling? In fact, the Army Chief of Staff Jatta
personally was reluctant to go ahead with the idea of shooting the kids, but
it was President Jammeh who insisted that they should shoot before more
properties were damaged.
To him, his "APRC projects", including his pet, Gambia TV, were more
important than the lives of the students. Once he learnt that the TV was
being attacked or targetted by the students, he (Jammeh) then authorised the
shootings.
For your information, the president is leaving Banjul today for Kanilai.
Banjul is too hot for him; and he is surely missing Kanilai.
Tombong said only 12 people were killed and I told you 14 were killed which
he denied. Now, the statement issued by Hamat Bah and Lawyer Darboe said
over 15 dead. It would be interesting therefore to know what Tombong would
say to the oposition figure for the dead.
Also, the appointment of Ousman Jammeh as Coroner is not a popular one here.
Ousman is a man of integrity, but he is a from the Bench. What people want
is an independent person, preferably from overseas; not someone from the
Bench whose arms can be twisted.
I'll stop here, but expect my next update soon.
Signed: "An honest Permanent Secretary".
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Hi folks,
FYI. Please help if you can.
Katim
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Greetings
I am a nurse midwife in Seattle, Washington. We have a patient from
Senegal who speaks only Fulani and are in search of an interpreter. A
female interpreter would be vastly preferable. If there is no one
available in the Seattle area, phone interpretation is a possibility. Any
advice on resources would be greatly appreciated - local translation
services have not as yet been of any help.
best regards
Lily Kay
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Prince Coker,
My silence on Gambia-l was not a sign of endorsing the shooting of school children because I was once a student and have relatives who are students. In fact I was very quick on calling for the immediate apprehension and prosecution of the firemen, and a thorough investigation of the rape case. These are events that transcend partisanship. The record shows that some of the demonstrators were non students who took advantage of the situation. By the way, I do enjoy your postings.
Mafy
Prince Coker wrote:
Hi Mafy,
It is nice to have you back and your piece has proved the insensibility of a true Jammeh supporter. You want to inform us of what Malian women are doing to themselves but you ignore the fact that a Gambian woman, who deputised for your idol, had ordered her troops to shoot and kill innocent children. As far as Gambians are concerned that woman, who also bleaches her skin, is more cancerous than all Malian skin bleachers. Never before in the history of Africa, and the world for that matter, has a woman leader been so heartless and unmotherly to her helpless citizens.
As a staunch Jammeh supporter, one expects you to come up with some explanations as to why defenceless kids were cold-bloodedly gunned down by a regime you so tirelessly defend. Once more it is nice to have you back in the fold and try to be a little sensitive to what has happened in the Gambia.
Prince Coker
P.S.
Skin bleaching can wait.
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Subject: Skin bleach, do our men really prefer pale women?
From the BBC
Malian women have been warned to avoid the skin lighteners
By Joan Baxter
The use of bleaching creams to lighten complexions seems to have reached epidemic proportions in Mali, despite widespread education campaigns.
Women who refuse to bleach often find themselves regarded as second class citizens.
A woman who did not bleach her skin said she is often not offered a chair at baptisms, and is asked to make herself scarce when group photographs are taken at marriages.
A quick survey shows there are more than 100 bleaching products available on the market in the capital, Bamako.
Sold under brand names such as Marie-Claire or Diana, the products come from Morocco, Nigeria, the United States or Saudi Arabia.
Pain
Dermatologists estimate that more than half the women in Mali are now using these creams to lighten their skin. These products are costly and often cause pain and blemishes.
So why are so many women in Mali using them? The answer is simple, according to one Malian woman singer: The creams make her white, and impart a certain charm.
But Malian physician Dr Ali Gindo finds bleached skin anything but charming.
"They are just burning themselves," he says. "It's painful and it's awful."
Dr Gindo says bleaching can cause skin cancer and the poorest people are the most at risk, because the cheaper the product, the more dangerous it is.
But he says it is not just poor women are bleaching their skin.
Role models
"We have also people who are well educated like lawyers, writers or professors, or people on the TV - and this is a real problem because if people who are leaders of opinion bleach themselves, you can imagine how deep the problem is."
Many of the women who use these products told me they do so because Malian men prefer women with bleached skin.
But male musician Al Hassan Soumali disagrees.
"I don't think Malian men like bleached women," he says. "It's better for Malian women to change their minds."
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Mafy,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is nice to have you back and your piece has
proved the insensibility of a true Jammeh supporter. You want to inform us of
what Malian women are doing to themselves but you ignore the fact that a
Gambian woman, who deputised for your idol, had ordered her troops to shoot and
kill innocent children. As far as Gambians are concerned that woman, who also
bleaches her skin, is more cancerous than all Malian skin bleachers. Never
before in the history of Africa, and the world for that matter, has a woman
leader been so heartless and unmotherly to her helpless citizens.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As a staunch Jammeh supporter, one expects you to
come up with some explanations as to why defenceless kids were
cold-bloodedly gunned down by a regime you so tirelessly defend. Once more
it is nice to have you back in the fold and try to be a little sensitive to
what has happened in the Gambia. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Prince Coker</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.S.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Skin bleaching can wait.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>From the BBC<BR><BR>Malian women have been warned to avoid the
skin lighteners<BR><BR>By Joan Baxter<BR><BR>The use of bleaching creams to
lighten complexions seems to have reached epidemic proportions in Mali,
despite widespread education campaigns.<BR><BR>Women who refuse to bleach
often find themselves regarded as second class citizens.<BR><BR>A woman who
did not bleach her skin said she is often not offered a chair at baptisms, and
is asked to make herself scarce when group photographs are taken at
marriages.<BR><BR>A quick survey shows there are more than 100 bleaching
products available on the market in the capital, Bamako.<BR><BR>Sold under
brand names such as Marie-Claire or Diana, the products come from Morocco,
Nigeria, the United States or Saudi Arabia.<BR><BR>Pain<BR><BR>Dermatologists
estimate that more than half the women in Mali are now using these creams to
lighten their skin. These products are costly and often cause pain and
blemishes.<BR><BR>So why are so many women in Mali using them? The answer is
simple, according to one Malian woman singer: The creams make her white, and
impart a certain charm.<BR><BR>But Malian physician Dr Ali Gindo finds
bleached skin anything but charming.<BR><BR>"They are just burning
themselves," he says. "It's painful and it's awful."<BR><BR>Dr Gindo says
bleaching can cause skin cancer and the poorest people are the most at risk,
because the cheaper the product, the more dangerous it is.<BR><BR>But he says
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This is the greatest piece I have seen so far which articulated the issues
succinctly. Ebrima, keep up the good work with your peeople on the ground.
This is exactly the point I have been making since yesterday ...all
indications are that Yaya ordered the shootings ...the question is how do we
hold him accountable ....as the message below also suggests, let us call for
the appointment of a human rights activist who lives outside the gambia by
the attorney general .....he promised he would do so in his press release
....as soon as the names are given to the AG, the clock will start ticking
again and if they don't respond accordingly, the same disgust that motivated
the students during the April 10 massacre will again come to play ....the
petitions and letters are fine ...but these are mere words ....what we are
suggesting here are concrete steps that need to be taken to bring these
bandits to justice .....this is the beginning of the end of Yaya
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>Gambia-L,
>
>I am forwarding these extracts from an e-mail I received from one of my
>sources.
>
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>
>Ebrima,
>
>I do not know whether you are aware, but your Internet List (Gambia-L)
>is very popular in the Gambia nowadays. In fact, some of the articles on
>Gambia L are so good that they are now being photocopied and distributed in
>town.
>
>So I wouldn't be surprised if the Government tries to enact a new law to
>ban
>the distribution of Gambia L postings in Gambia. I mean it!
>
>I cautioned you in earlier e-mail not to bite the bait thrown by Tombong.
>Well, some on Gambia L did and I swear I could hear some one burp. Amadu
>Kabir Njie is one of the few who read the fine print. His "Good over Evil"
>was a master piece.
>
>Anyway, the Imams were invited yesterday to State House to WACHE KAMIR or
>to
>recite the Holy Quran. I did not see Imam Muntagga Fye in attendance and
>was
>told that he had declined the invitation. But I couldn't confirm this
>information from Imam Muntagga himself.
>
>I'll try to find out from him why he was absent if possible. Also, a roll
>will be compiled of all those Imams who participated and I'll send it to
>you
>later this afternoon.
>
>Meanwhile, just keep the pressure so that the students who are detained
>will
>be released. They are still languishing in detention without charge and yet
>they are not released.
>
>By the way, President Jammeh is trying to shift the blame to Ousman Badjie
>and Isatou Njie-Saidy in order to divert attention, but he doesn't know
>that
>Gambians are far smarter than him. Anyway, don't be surprised if he
>sacrifices Ousman Badjie and Isatou Njie-Saidy by sacking them so that he
>can get the public siding with him.
>
>However, the fact of the matter is that it was the President, I am quite
>sure about that, who ordered the shootings: in reality the two officials
>only executed orders from the boss.
>
>Even after Isatou Njie-Saidy told an emergency Cabinet Meeting that the
>President had asked her to order the security forces to "open fire on the
>students", both Ousman Badjie and Army Chief of Staff Jatta had to cross
>check what Isatou said, with President Jammeh in Cuba to make sure that the
>orders indeed came from him.
>
>So who is President Jammeh fooling? In fact, the Army Chief of Staff Jatta
>personally was reluctant to go ahead with the idea of shooting the kids,
>but
>it was President Jammeh who insisted that they should shoot before more
>properties were damaged.
>
>To him, his "APRC projects", including his pet, Gambia TV, were more
>important than the lives of the students. Once he learnt that the TV was
>being attacked or targetted by the students, he (Jammeh) then authorised
>the
>shootings.
>
>For your information, the president is leaving Banjul today for Kanilai.
>Banjul is too hot for him; and he is surely missing Kanilai.
>
>Tombong said only 12 people were killed and I told you 14 were killed which
>he denied. Now, the statement issued by Hamat Bah and Lawyer Darboe said
>over 15 dead. It would be interesting therefore to know what Tombong would
>say to the oposition figure for the dead.
>
>Also, the appointment of Ousman Jammeh as Coroner is not a popular one
>here.
>Ousman is a man of integrity, but he is a from the Bench. What people want
>is an independent person, preferably from overseas; not someone from the
>Bench whose arms can be twisted.
>
>I'll stop here, but expect my next update soon.
>
>Signed: "An honest Permanent Secretary".
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Pope,
Your point is well noted, in fact I thought about that prior to my initial
posting. However, acquiescing to the whims of this form of idiosyncrasies
has it's place, NOT in this forum where people are too informed for such
behaviour. Until these 'Agoogoos' synoptically admit some wrongdoing and
be accountable for their lousy disservices to the the Gambian people, they
should not be part of anything gambian. Yes, we all have the constitutional
right to be on the Gambia L and I agree, But we, the Concern Gambians have
every constitutional right to demand a better explanation/broadcast of the
events that took place. Let's not become too lenient to these butchers else
all efforts may die quietly within a matter of days. I maybe sound a little
demanding ,perhaps unrealistic but what option have these ignoramus given us?
Pope Wrote:
George
I understand where you are coming from but I disagree with the action you
suggest. Just because we disagree with the man doesnt mean he should be
removed from this list and regarding him being an informer; this is a very
public forum and no matter what we do, anything discussed here will not be
secret. Am sure if Jammeh has any informant(s) here, its not limited to
Tombong. Trust me just because he runs the TV station doesnt mean that he
gets to decide what runs! I guess its his perogative to infrom us by other
means (thru this forum for instance) but I wonder how long he'll last in
that post if he did and I guess he values his job more than our plight.
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As you all know I had pull down the online petition form due to some Spam
mail related issues. The site http://www.gambia.f2s.com is up again but the
petition form is disabled. I have thought about the issues raised by the
automated online petition form and read your comments and has come up with
the following suggesting for your review:
Create a new online petition form with the following functionality:
1. Users can send a petiton letter but instead they'd have to use their your
own e-mail program and decide for themselves which organizations they wish
to send it to ( I will supply you with the e-mail addresses on the site)
2. Users can print out the form and mail it by post (again will supply you
with the addresses)
3. Users can add their names to the list of names to be included with the
petiton letter that I will send by mail.
4. I can also add links to the form in other languages as long as someone
does the translation (am not sure how accurate the Altavista translator is)
If we decide by Friday, I can have this new form up and running by Sunday
night. Again thanks for all your comments.
Pope
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Ebrima, you wrote:
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>>Signed: "An honest Permanent Secretary".
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There are only a handful of Perm. Secs. To avoid a witch hunt, perhaps it
would be better to just post comments from your sources without being to
overt about it. People can formulate their own opinions on their viewpoints
based on their merits. This way they are not inadvertently sacrificed. I
understand you are trying to give legitimacy of your sources, but at this
point, perhaps this journalistic instinct ought to be surpressed a bit.
Latjor
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Mr. Fye,
Please spare us this Pap Cheyassin as "Gambia's Nelson Mandela" thing. Your
personal experience bears testimony to Cheyassin's true character. Ebrima
Drammeh's characterization of him as a Nelson Mandela is an affront to
anyone who truly understands that most noble of our African giants. Just
pretend like I do that you've never read any such garbage, because that's
what it is!
Saul.
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> Could you kindly help me to get the following e-mail
>addresses,
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Exactly what I was going to put up Latjor! If you do this Ebrima, you'll
sacrifice your sources. As slow as these Yaya Jammeh people are, One Plus
One has always been Two. So watch Ebrima ...
Saul.
>Ebrima, you wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Signed: "An honest Permanent Secretary".
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>
>There are only a handful of Perm. Secs. To avoid a witch hunt, perhaps it
>would be better to just post comments from your sources without
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This is exactly the kind of things which brought us to the situation where
we are right now .....instead of focussing on the substantive issues in the
piece you are worried about a witch hunt ...what can they do next???? kill
all the perm. sects.
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>Ebrima, you wrote:
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>>>
>>>Signed: "An honest Permanent Secretary".
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>
>There are only a handful of Perm. Secs. To avoid a witch hunt, perhaps it
>would be better to just post comments from your sources without being to
>overt about it. People can formulate their own opinions on their viewpoints
>based on their merits. This way they are not inadvertently sacrificed. I
>understand you are trying to give legitimacy of your sources, but at this
>point, perhaps this journalistic instinct ought to be surpressed a bit.
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Howdy,
saul, thank you for your piece to Malafy regarding Malian women.
You know, when you think some people are smart, that is when they start to
do really stupid stuff. Malafy, MR. SOFTWARE ENGINEER, what is wrong with
your head? In case you did not know, there is what is called "college
degree". And then there is what is called "common sense". Your
professors may not have imparted or divulged much of the latter on to you,
that is, if you really went to college. Any way, I am
going to take a minute to bless you a little bit of ...well, let's say
"wisdom" and I recommend you take heed.
Malafy, I am sorry about the perspective of some Malian women on
life. What they are doing is unfortunate and insulting to their own
intelligence and I wish they would stop. However, Malafy, when push comes
to shove, I do not give a rat's tail abut what is going on in Mali. It is
these people's God's given right to make that conscious decision. At this
point, apart from Gambia, I am a little bit more concern about events
unfolding in Zimbabwe, where the violence could potentially escalate into
genocide.
Now my really problem with your piece is your conscious and deliberate
effort to divert attention from events in the Gambia. You are one of
the strongest Jammeh supporters on the list and since the incident I did
not hear you condemn the killings. That begs the question: DO YOU
REALLY CARE? I bet if you brother was one of the victims, you would
have long been all over these people. And now this. It is about time
you go with your heart and not your brain. Oops, you may not have
either. In the mean time, If you cannot stomach the barrage of comments
inundating your boss, then you might consider your subscription. Go ahead
and delist from the list. Otherwise, put up or shut up.
Jabou, thank you for your piece to the authorities in Senegal. It is
beautifully and elegantly written. And for the title, I just like to say
it is very fitting. Folks, there is no room for complacence and
apathy. We have a long road ahead (...hope not). There is no looking
back. We have to tighten our belts to the last hole and match forward.
The students that were killed in this incident are real heroes. They are
the Martin L King JRs of our time. And those that survive, some of whom
are still in custody and some in exile (so to speak), are the Nelson
Mandelas of our time. And then there is the rest of us. We have all the
time and resources in the world to decide our own faith, unlike the
deceased. Destiny is own our side. We have every opportunity to define
and redefine history in the Gambia, to steer the natural cause of events
how ever we see fit, to... you know the rest. However, we can only do the
above if we put our heads together.
Bass, thank you. What is going on in Atlanta? I like to go to the event
this July for the first time but only if there is one
celebration. Gambia in size and Gambians as a group are too small for
that kind of stuff. Besides, united we stand and divided we fall.
Karamba, please touch base with me in private. I like to have your
address. I may have missed it.
I will split for now,
Dawda Singhateh
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Njaga,
This piece is a work of art! It's off the hook!Really got them 'sons of
b*****s'. That was very creative and true indeed. Am still 'hahatying'.
Woooooooooh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh ye mere mortals, ye have pillaged and plundered (with impunity ye
thinketh, dumbass) that which hath taken me 7 glorious days to create.
One of these days, when ye hear a voice say come ye idiot, come into me your
lord GOD, where ye gonna run to??????
Y gonna run to the rock for there will be no kaniiiiiilier. Remember y sodom
and gommorath. My rath is immeasurable.
I gave them life , y snuffeth like a candle in the wind. I gave them freedom
to choose in their hearts between good and evil, the power to even ignore me
if they so chooseth, yet y wouldn't even let them march and air their
grievances.
YAYA.........!!!!!!!!!!!
this is God; WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT, DISMISS ALL YOUR
IDIOTS, HYPOCRATS, YOUR INCOMPETENT CABINET,
AND ALL YOUR ASS-LICKERS. RETIRE YOURSELF, THEN COMMIT
SUICIDE.
Come unto me for I am God your Lord.
It is too late for you to salvage anything, y don't even have any guts or
spine left. Y are unfit to dwell among my heavenly creatures anymore.
Come unto me for I am God your lord.
When y'll mere mortals are said and done, yeah......
then y'll shall come unto me. We have a nice special cozy pace for just the
likes of you. Your comrades incarnage shall be there; there will be hitler
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Yes Kebba, they can kill all perm sects. Is that what you want? More =
kids were slaughtered by Jammeh's diabolical regime, than there are Perm =
Sects. It is nothing to these people to 'eradicate' anybody they feel is =
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This is exactly the kind of things which brought us to the situation =
where
we are right now .....instead of focussing on the substantive issues =
in the
piece you are worried about a witch hunt ...what can they do next???? =
kill
all the perm. sects.
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>Ebrima, you wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Signed: "An honest Permanent Secretary".
>>>
>
>There are only a handful of Perm. Secs. To avoid a witch hunt, =
perhaps it
>would be better to just post comments from your sources without being =
to
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viewpoints
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Mr. Singhateh: I think the gambians in Atlanta will
be organizing a demonstration next week thursday which
I look forward to be a part of. I am yet to fiddle
thru the details, but will keep everyone informed
insha allah.
Long Live the revolution, Long Live the Gambian
people!!!
Essa Thomas
--- "D. Singhateh" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> saul, thank you for your piece to Malafy regarding
> Malian women.
>
> You know, when you think some people are smart, that
> is when they start to
> do really stupid stuff. Malafy, MR. SOFTWARE
> ENGINEER, what is wrong with
> your head? In case you did not know, there is what
> is called "college
> degree". And then there is what is called "common
> sense". Your
> professors may not have imparted or divulged much of
> the latter on to you,
> that is, if you really went to college. Any way, I
> am
> going to take a minute to bless you a little bit of
> ...well, let's say
> "wisdom" and I recommend you take heed.
>
> Malafy, I am sorry about the perspective of some
> Malian women on
> life. What they are doing is unfortunate and
> insulting to their own
> intelligence and I wish they would stop. However,
> Malafy, when push comes
> to shove, I do not give a rat's tail abut what is
> going on in Mali. It is
> these people's God's given right to make that
> conscious decision. At this
> point, apart from Gambia, I am a little bit more
> concern about events
> unfolding in Zimbabwe, where the violence could
> potentially escalate into
> genocide.
>
> Now my really problem with your piece is your
> conscious and deliberate
> effort to divert attention from events in the
> Gambia. You are one of
> the strongest Jammeh supporters on the list and
> since the incident I did
> not hear you condemn the killings. That begs the
> question: DO YOU
> REALLY CARE? I bet if you brother was one of the
> victims, you would
> have long been all over these people. And now this.
> It is about time
> you go with your heart and not your brain. Oops,
> you may not have
> either. In the mean time, If you cannot stomach the
> barrage of comments
> inundating your boss, then you might consider your
> subscription. Go ahead
> and delist from the list. Otherwise, put up or shut
> up.
>
> Jabou, thank you for your piece to the authorities
> in Senegal. It is
> beautifully and elegantly written. And for the
> title, I just like to say
> it is very fitting. Folks, there is no room for
> complacence and
> apathy. We have a long road ahead (...hope not).
> There is no looking
> back. We have to tighten our belts to the last hole
> and match forward.
> The students that were killed in this incident are
> real heroes. They are
> the Martin L King JRs of our time. And those that
> survive, some of whom
> are still in custody and some in exile (so to
> speak), are the Nelson
> Mandelas of our time. And then there is the rest of
> us. We have all the
> time and resources in the world to decide our own
> faith, unlike the
> deceased. Destiny is own our side. We have every
> opportunity to define
> and redefine history in the Gambia, to steer the
> natural cause of events
> how ever we see fit, to... you know the rest.
> However, we can only do the
> above if we put our heads together.
>
> Bass, thank you. What is going on in Atlanta? I
> like to go to the event
> this July for the first time but only if there is
> one
> celebration. Gambia in size and Gambians as a group
> are too small for
> that kind of stuff. Besides, united we stand and
> divided we fall.
>
> Karamba, please touch base with me in private. I
> like to have your
> address. I may have missed it.
>
> I will split for now,
>
> Dawda Singhateh
>
>
>
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It gave be a great sense of relief to read on the Observer the following
paragraph copied from the opposition's statement
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>
>The most crucial point that the Gambian public wanted to hear is who gave
>the order to shoot. If it was not the president, did he condone it and if
>he
>did not, what is he going to do about this grave misjudgment. His statement
>that he was 'constantly working with (his) government on the evolution of
>the situation on the ground" is not helpful at all because this means that
>he was aware all along of what was happening to the children
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Atleast there are some people who are trying to pose the right questions and
trying to resolve this situation in a logical manner ...rather than hurling
insults at each other and being led by our hearts and not our heads.
>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: On The Way Forward (Attn. Hamjatta)
>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:21:29 EDT
>
>Some good observations from people on the ground. However, I was a bit
>puzzled by your articulation of the students' demands ...
>
>"They want to know whether live bullets were utilised which led to the
>death
>of students. They want a fair and speedy trial in connection with Ebrima
>Barry's case. They want a commission of enquiry to know what actually
>happened."
>
>.....I thought it was abundantly clear from eyewitness accounts that live
>bullets were used. True, we need a proper forum to bring this out in the
>open. But I would not stay neutral and give the perpetrators of these acts
>benefit of the doubt. I think the main question is who was responsible for
>giving out orders to shoot and kill school children..... Aren't people also
>demanding to know what transpired between the Govt. negotiators and the
>students ....lastly, to get the ball rolling, have people started taking up
>the Attorney General on his promise and giving him names of people who can
>serve as prosecutors when these criminals who shot and ordered the shooting
>of our children are brought to trial.
>
>
>
>
>>From: foroyaa <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: On The Way Forward (Attn. Hamjatta)
>>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:28:47 +0100
>>
>>Hamjatta,
>>
>>The points you raised in your memorandum of 16 April have been noted. Feel
>>free to send me personal mails to raise any question for further
>>clarification. This is a time to share. All views need to be taken on
>>board.
>>
>>It is, however, necessary to explain certain things to you that may enable
>>you to understand our position better.
>>
>>You would agree with me that in order to be the guardians of our own
>>destiny, we must address the exigencies of the passing moment and the
>>demands of the emerging future. We have a responsibility to address both
>>demands. This is precisely the reason why we operate at both levels. We do
>>take measures to address concerns that are of immediate consideration, and
>>we do operate at the level of a political party aimed at ensuring the
>>complete transformation of the society.
>>
>>The students demonstration was beyond partisan politics and it gave birth
>>to
>>a coalition of students who are moved and bound by their outrage for the
>>killing of Ebrima Barry and the raping of Binta Manneh. The delay in the
>>criminal justice system led them to take action in unison. In that
>>respect,
>>they put the criminal justice system on trial. Their lack of faith in the
>>system is what compelled them to call for a demonstration in order to give
>>sharp focus to the issue so that its negligence will be inconceivable. The
>>students were, therefore, struggling for standards and values. They were
>>willing to give their lives for those standards and values. They were
>>determined to have a voice and be heard. They were determined to be seen.
>>They were not willing to compromise their position. The authorities who
>>were
>>dealing with them did not realise how far the students were ready to
>>ensure
>>that they were not ignored.
>>
>>What we have been doing is simply to explain this reality.
>>All Gambians now know that the right to peaceful demonstrate is a
>>democratic
>>right which should be respected. That failure to recognise such rights can
>>lead to national upheaval. This national upheaval did take place as the
>>authorities tried to restrict the demands of the students.
>>
>>Now, we are confronted with the demands arising from the catastrophe.
>>Students are arrested and they need to be released. Some are tortured and
>>they redress. Properties are destroyed and there is need for
>>reconstruction.
>>
>>People have been demanding for a public enquiry. They want
>>to know whether live bullets were utilised which led to the death of
>>students. They want a fair and speedy trial in connection with Ebrima
>>Barry's case. They want a commission of enquiry to know what actually
>>happened. These are their demands.
>>
>>It is left to the government to ignore these demands or address them. It
>>is
>>not for us to indicate whether we are sure that this time anything would
>>be
>>different. It is for us to amplify the immediate demands of the people.
>>Whether the response of the Attorney General is simply meant to be a mere
>>bait to shift attentions from what is really wrong with the country and
>>that
>>the investigations would be half-hearted or not, is left to their
>>practice.
>>
>>What is abundantly clear is that the will of the people has been asserted
>>and a government ignores that will at its own peril; no government can
>>ignore the people's concerns with impunity when the people are determined
>>to
>>matter.
>>
>>You have mentioned the strategic objective of not only demanding for
>>justice
>>in dealing with this particular incident, but to ensure a change of
>>leadership. Of course you know that we also operate an opposition party in
>>order to address
>>the demands of the emerging future; that is the demand for total political
>>change. As far as we are concerned, even if the demands of the passing
>>moments are addressed, that does not negate the major demands of the
>>people
>>for economic prosperity and fullest empowerment.
>>
>>Hence, we are committed to amplifying the demands of the moment and giving
>>suggestions regarding the means to address them, as well as the total
>>transformation of the society.
>>
>>What we have been trying to do is to explain that this is not a law and
>>order issue, opposition and ruling party; it is a struggle to expand the
>>democratic space. It is a refusal to live the old way and a demand for a
>>new
>>way. No government, which is refuses to acknowledge this, can govern this
>>country in peace. This is the fundamental lesson that should be gathered.
>>
>>Suffice it to say, it is the duty of the opposition parties to express
>>these
>>demands of the people clearly and offer them a political alternative. The
>>party in office also has its prerogative to do whatever it desires to try
>>to
>>address the concerns of the people.
>>
>>What is important is for the standards required for addressing the
>>grievances of the moment to be set and weigh practice against the
>>standards.
>>I hope our position is clear.
>>
>>As for the question of a coalition, this is a tactical instrument.
>>Political
>>parties, whether in Senegal or Gambia, can establish coalitions. That is
>>also dictated by circumstances. Your suggestion is noted.
>>
>>Keep in touch.
>>
>>
>>Greetings.
>>
>>Halifa Sallah.
>>
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Dawda Singarteh,
You sound like somebody without common sense pal. I don't give a damn about what you think of my posting. I guess you're not smart enough to use your delete button. Get a life pal, life is short. If you want to engage in name calling with me, you just found the right guy, buddy!.
Mafy
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Mr. Singhateh: I think the gambians in Atlanta will
be organizing a demonstration next week thursday which
I look forward to be a part of. I am yet to fiddle
thru the details, but will keep everyone informed
insha allah.
Long Live the revolution, Long Live the Gambian
people!!!
Essa Thomas
--- "D. Singhateh" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> saul, thank you for your piece to Malafy regarding
> Malian women.
>
> You know, when you think some people are smart, that
> is when they start to
> do really stupid stuff. Malafy, MR. SOFTWARE
> ENGINEER, what is wrong with
> your head? In case you did not know, there is what
> is called "college
> degree". And then there is what is called "common
> sense". Your
> professors may not have imparted or divulged much of
> the latter on to you,
> that is, if you really went to college. Any way, I
> am
> going to take a minute to bless you a little bit of
> ...well, let's say
> "wisdom" and I recommend you take heed.
>
> Malafy, I am sorry about the perspective of some
> Malian women on
> life. What they are doing is unfortunate and
> insulting to their own
> intelligence and I wish they would stop. However,
> Malafy, when push comes
> to shove, I do not give a rat's tail abut what is
> going on in Mali. It is
> these people's God's given right to make that
> conscious decision. At this
> point, apart from Gambia, I am a little bit more
> concern about events
> unfolding in Zimbabwe, where the violence could
> potentially escalate into
> genocide.
>
> Now my really problem with your piece is your
> conscious and deliberate
> effort to divert attention from events in the
> Gambia. You are one of
> the strongest Jammeh supporters on the list and
> since the incident I did
> not hear you condemn the killings. That begs the
> question: DO YOU
> REALLY CARE? I bet if you brother was one of the
> victims, you would
> have long been all over these people. And now this.
> It is about time
> you go with your heart and not your brain. Oops,
> you may not have
> either. In the mean time, If you cannot stomach the
> barrage of comments
> inundating your boss, then you might consider your
> subscription. Go ahead
> and delist from the list. Otherwise, put up or shut
> up.
>
> Jabou, thank you for your piece to the authorities
> in Senegal. It is
> beautifully and elegantly written. And for the
> title, I just like to say
> it is very fitting. Folks, there is no room for
> complacence and
> apathy. We have a long road ahead (...hope not).
> There is no looking
> back. We have to tighten our belts to the last hole
> and match forward.
> The students that were killed in this incident are
> real heroes. They are
> the Martin L King JRs of our time. And those that
> survive, some of whom
> are still in custody and some in exile (so to
> speak), are the Nelson
> Mandelas of our time. And then there is the rest of
> us. We have all the
> time and resources in the world to decide our own
> faith, unlike the
> deceased. Destiny is own our side. We have every
> opportunity to define
> and redefine history in the Gambia, to steer the
> natural cause of events
> how ever we see fit, to... you know the rest.
> However, we can only do the
> above if we put our heads together.
>
> Bass, thank you. What is going on in Atlanta? I
> like to go to the event
> this July for the first time but only if there is
> one
> celebration. Gambia in size and Gambians as a group
> are too small for
> that kind of stuff. Besides, united we stand and
> divided we fall.
>
> Karamba, please touch base with me in private. I
> like to have your
> address. I may have missed it.
>
> I will split for now,
>
> Dawda Singhateh
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The Independent newspaper has greatly impressed me with her unbiased reporting. In the latest version of the paper, the events that happened at Red Cross HQ in Serrekunda are chronicled. According to the director of the organization, Mr. Andrew Jarju, Omar Barrow was shot by security forces within the organization's compound which was under siege from armed security forces. He further espoused that he saw a boy with his guts hanging out, and, also, at some point, he saw the body of a young man, dead and stark naked on the grounds of the Red Cross building.
From this man's version of events, a few things are clear. Omar Barrow selflessly tried to help the students, and paid the ultimate price for it. The security forces targeted him because, in their eyes, he was helping the enemy. Aftera all, he was within the sanctuary of the Red Cross, supposedly out of bounds to security forces even in the instance of war. In addition, his Red Cross bib was clearly on his chest when he was shot. The deceased was indeed a Shahib (a hero), as the Imam of Latrikunda said. Another thing is clear, the military and police tortured and killed students at the demonstration. How else would you account for a completely naked dead body with a bullet hole through it? That person was obviously beaten, tortured and killed. Shades of Cry Freetown, perhaps?
Not only did the Independent chronicle a "few" of the human rights abuses, but it also covered the shameless statements of the Education Secretary, Theresa Ndong. In her response to the tragedy the Independent says:
"Education secretary Ann Therese Ndong Jatta said the student demonstration was a clandestine move, which was discovered by intelligence agents. She said the students never conferred with her department on the issue. 'They did not even announce it. It was through intelligence agents that we knew of their plans,' she said.
She finally said government should be applauded for its handling of the crisis."
My question is how can someone that represents the interests of all students make such a crude and cold hearted statement? The answer is clear. All these so-called secretaries are incompetent and half literate with one thing in mind, patronizing Yahya Jammeh, to put it mildly, and trying to save their behinds. Pap Cheyasin Secka, while withholding information form the press, was more diplomatic and restrained in his official statement. He came short of putting blame on any of the parties involved. Instead, he assured the Gambian public that justice will take it's due course and an investigation would be carried out.
As an indicator of the amount of confusion and discord in the government, Yahya Jammeh has made an about face from his original statement that was posted by Tombong Saidy a few days ago. In his most recent statement, in addition to sending out his condolences to the bereaved families, he has declared a week of national mourning and has ordered that all flags be flown at half mast. This most recent statement is a complete departure from his initial statement that condemned the protesters.
These conflicting statements from different elements of the government are indicative of a government in disarray. The hierarchical chain of command has been broken, just like an army that has been attacked and destabilized. They are of no more use to the Gambian people. All they can do is tell lies and save their behinds. And, folks, they are as aware of this fact as we are. I say, in addition to carrying out all the brilliant proposals that have been suggested on this forum, let us all enjoy the events unfold as they self-destruct.
I was particularly encouraged by the statement issued by the Gambia Teachers Union. The teachers partly accepted responsibility for the actions of the students, but also zeroed in on the law enforcement authorities and government that are trying so hard to hide the truth. The teachers have spoken and the seed of discontent for this regime will and has been firmly planted in the minds of the Gambian students. As Bob Marley said, "You can fool some people sometimes, but you can't fool all the people all the time."
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Malafy,
I do not intend to suppress you from the freedom of expressing yourself, but
your recent postings on the list are showing everyone what kind of a person
you are. A person who has no regard for human rights, no concern for the
people of the Gambia, no mercy on human life,and a total disrespect for the
gambian population for that matter. You are persisting on trying to defray
people from the issue in hand by sending in distracting postings which are
not the least associated with the status quo.
List members excuse me if I seem to be a little out of hand, but Mafy is
deliberately doing this. My advice is for everyone to boycott his postings
and concentrate on the current development back home on the heinous activity
that had just happened.
The first time I saw his such postings I replied but I have been having
problems in sending in messages. However, some people have condemned his
acts , but he still insists.
So please Mafy for the sake of patriotism and respect can you please join
everyone and condemn these BARBARIC ACTIONS by you saviour Yaya Jammeh
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Well I don't want to belabor this point any more ....none of us want any one
to die trying to rid us of this cancer .....my point was, there were more
substantive issues on that piece to focus on .....Ebrima already made it
clear that he was disguising his source ....obviously, he would not narrow
it down to the extent that even people like yaya can identify the source
...let us device a way of bringing yaya to justice ....you are right ...they
are capable of murdering innocent people ....but they would only do so if
they think they can get away with it.
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>Yes Kebba, they can kill all perm sects. Is that what you want? More kids
>were slaughtered by Jammeh's diabolical regime, than there are Perm Sects.
>It is nothing to these people to 'eradicate' anybody they feel is against
>them. Some of us can put our necks on block on this List but it will be
>irresponsible to sacrifice a reliable source at home. Think about that.
>
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> This is exactly the kind of things which brought us to the situation
>where
> we are right now .....instead of focussing on the substantive issues in
>the
> piece you are worried about a witch hunt ...what can they do next????
>kill
> all the perm. sects.
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> >Ebrima, you wrote:
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> >>>
> >>>Signed: "An honest Permanent Secretary".
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> >
> >There are only a handful of Perm. Secs. To avoid a witch hunt, perhaps
>it
> >would be better to just post comments from your sources without being
>to
> >overt about it. People can formulate their own opinions on their
>viewpoints
> >based on their merits. This way they are not inadvertently sacrificed.
>I
> >understand you are trying to give legitimacy of your sources, but at
>this
> >point, perhaps this journalistic instinct ought to be surpressed a bit.
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GAMBIA: GAMBIAN OPPOSITION SCEPTICAL OF RIOT DEATHS PROBE.
BANJUL, April 19 (Reuters) - A Gambian opposition party leader said on Wednesday
he did not trust the government to hold a full inquiry into the deaths of 12
people during student riots last week.
President Yahya Jammeh promised on Sunday that "no stone will be left unturned"
in trying to find out how the 12 died.
But Hamat Bah, leader of the National Reconciliation Party (NRP), said Gambians
had heard it all before. He gave the example of the lack of adequate explanation
for the suspicious death of finance minister Ousman Koro Ceesay in June 1995.
"We know that they (the government) are very good at misleading the people.
We've heard it many a time. They fabricate stories against people and get away
with it," Bah said, vowing to get to the truth this time.
Riots erupted on April 10 and 11 over the alleged torture and murder of a
student by fire fighters.
Students said the government had not responded adequately to the death of Ebrima
Barry, a school pupil from Brikama, 32 km (20 miles) south of Banjul. Police
sources said six members of the local fire service had been arrested in March
and charged.
The president of the Gambia Students Union (GAMSU), Omar Joof, four other GAMSU
members and several schoolchildren are still in custody after being arrested
during the riots.
Ousman Jammeh, who is in charge of the inquest into the deaths, said on
Wednesday that one of the 12 had still not been identified.
Jammeh, stressing that he was a coroner whose job was simply to establish the
cause of death, said he would submit his report on May 15.
One of the 12 killed was a reporter for Senegalese radio station Sud FM, Omar
Barrow, who was also a Red Cross volunteer.
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Mr. Singhateh:
I commend you for your straight forward condemnation of Malafy Jarju. He
seems to believe that the dictator will be in the Gambia forever.
The slaughter of innocent Gambian students should remind all of us, whether
we are pro or anti-Jammeh that intellectual property is vital to the
socioeconomic and political development of our country. The jemmeh camp
should know that these innocent students could have been their own brethren.
It is a sad day in the history of our country to have bigots who only care
about their self promotion.
Our history has been altered due to lack of concern and disrespect of human
life. Our friends and family are in terrible state of mind. Our case is a
tragic illustration of
fascist and communist maladministration of a dictator who is only concern
with his own ego. Malafy has a right to keep quiet because he is in no
position to defend the evil and terror that this lunatic has imposed on the
Gambian people. We should welcome him to delist from this forum. His
commentaries or letters have been divisive. We have not lost a Gambian of
trust, but an individual who is ashamed to face reality.
Comrade,
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Jabou,
The inclusion of the press is a graet idea.This is a go ahead.
Beran
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Subject: Re: Letter to President Wade/Please save our
students!!!!
My apologies to all. I forgot to mention that nay editing or
additions to
this letter are welcome. For instance, I think we should address
it to the
Senegalese public also.I also think we should send a copy to
Amnesty
International headquarters, as well as to their Gambia Desk
officer, and to
various newspapers in Senegal and the sub-region. Please give
your comments
on that. I am sure the editing and additions can be done without
affecting
any signatures that have already been added. Thanks.Text is
below, so feel
free. I am also urging those people in Gambia to please take the
time to add
their signatures.Let us save the lives of these fleeing
students, it is the
least we can do.May I also mention that this is rather urgent.
Jabou Joh
<< G-L,
Here is a copy of a letter I sent to the Senegalese government
on behalf of
the students who have fled to Senegal, and whose repatriation
is being sought
by the regime in Gambia. May I request that Mr Njai put this at
the petition
website, and may I request one and all to please go there and
add your
signature so we can send this out as soon as possible. Thanks
to all.
Jabou Joh
To: The Government of Senegal.
From: All Justice loving Gambians .
Dear President Wade.
We have been notified that the Gambia government has requested
Senegal to
repatriate the students who have fled into Senegal to save
their lives from
the murderous regime in Gambia that has already killed our
children in cold
blood, and who are now hunting these students like wild
animals.
We call upon you as a neighbour and as a brother who has the
best interest
of the Gambian people at heart, not to turn our students over
to this regime
who will probably turture and murder them. Some of the students
who have been
detained by the Gambia Security forces have not been charged or
allowed
visits with their families, and the whereabouts of some of
these students in
the hands of the security forces have not been made known to
the public or
their families, even though the government has said that they
will conduct a
thorough and fair investigation. Time and experience has shown
us that we
cannot put any trust in the promises given by this regime.
It is also a general concensus by all sober thinking Gambians,
as well as
all justice loving people the World over, that the security
forces opened
fire on students when they were exercising their constitutional
right to
demonstrate against what was seen as a gross miscarriage of
justice. Two of
their fellow students were killed and raped respectively
without the
government making any attempts to bring the culprits to
justice, and this was
the reason for the demonstration . Infact,of the two cases the
students were
protesting , the rape case was not even looked into, and in the
murder case,
the autopsy report was falsified and the perpetrators left to
go scot free
until this tragedy forced them to say that the perpetrators are
now in
custody. Time will tell if this claim is true.
We implore you in the name of all that binds our two
countries together,
and these are many, from blood relationships to a timeless
common history,
not to repatriate these students to what could undoubtedly be a
dismal end
for such young lives.
The atrocity of firing live bullets into a crowd of young
demonstartors was
perpetrated on our country by the government of the day, and
yet, the best
thing they have given the Gambian people is a shameless denial,
and a failure
to face up to the responsibility of inflicting this tragedy on
our once
peaceful and peace loving country.We wish from the bottom of
our hearts that
this regime would remove itself from the backs of the Gambian
people once and
for all.
Ours is a dictatorship where nothing happens without the
blessing of our
President, and yet, he stood before the Gambian public and
pretended that he
was not responsible for this atrocity. Why then are his
enforcers hunting
down our children in cold blood? This denial and callousness is
a nightmare
that is hovering over the heads of all Gambians the Whole World
over. We are
desolate, and in the grips of nightmares since this terrible
inhumane act,
the likes of which we never envisioned occurring in our
country. We implore
you not to worsen this nightmare for us by repatriating our
children to their
doom.
From all indications,, it is clear that every attempt is being
made to
inflict even more pain and human rights abuses on these
students with this
endless witch hunt, and the rampant arrest of students all over
the country
since this tragedy unfolded.
We implore you in the name of Allah almighty, as a brother and
a neighbour,
to make every attempt to save the lives of these poor Gambian
students by not
only refraining from repatriating them, but also to do
everything in your
power to ensure their safety in Senegal.We put you in charge of
their lives
with the confidence that this trust will not be betrayed. Thank
you.
Sincerely,
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Mba,
Believe me, I'm not that callous not to deplore the shooting of school children. If you refer to my reply to Prince Coker, you will find that I did speak against the use of deadly force, even though I did not post it to Gambia-L. Please be reminded that you don't have to post your disapproval to Gambia-l to validate you position. The fact remains that deadly force should not be used on school children. I hope this clears any ambiguity about my position.
Mafy
Malafy,
I do not intend to suppress you from the freedom of expressing yourself, but
your recent postings on the list are showing everyone what kind of a person
you are. A person who has no regard for human rights, no concern for the
people of the Gambia, no mercy on human life,and a total disrespect for the
gambian population for that matter. You are persisting on trying to defray
people from the issue in hand by sending in distracting postings which are
not the least associated with the status quo.
List members excuse me if I seem to be a little out of hand, but Mafy is
deliberately doing this. My advice is for everyone to boycott his postings
and concentrate on the current development back home on the heinous activity
that had just happened.
The first time I saw his such postings I replied but I have been having
problems in sending in messages. However, some people have condemned his
acts , but he still insists.
So please Mafy for the sake of patriotism and respect can you please join
everyone and condemn these BARBARIC ACTIONS by you saviour Yaya Jammeh
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Do you have any contacts in the Gambia, to find out if this is realy this
"cult"? And if yes, what do you think could be done?
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Malafy,
Have fun!
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Assalaamu alaikum sister Jabou,
Alhamdullilah,(praise due to Allah alone)
There is no power and might except by Allah!
Thank you so much for this fantastic letter.
Let us save the lives of these fleeing students,
it is the least we can do. As Jabou said.
I am 100% with you sister, enough is enough!!!
I never like to join politics, I dont even discuss politics with any body,
because it always brings anger.
I hate to be angry, I dislike anger, but this tradigy makes me feel like, I
dont know how to discribe it.
But this subject is beyond politic,I will never be silent any more.
What huts me more is the fact that this boys are using Islam to cover up
them selves which is a bad habit.
They make many people disrespect Islam, because they dont give good examples
to the public, but Allah! is not sleeping and He will never sleep.
Islam is not a dress neither a tool, it is a complet way of life. If you
only understand the message...
Practice what you preach Mr. president;;;
Only time will tell, you must pay the price one day!!!
You will be judge here in this life, and the life after.
The Day of Judgement is not so far, I wish that it could be now!!!
The Day that Allah! Said: "That Day mankind will issue
forth in scattered groups to be shown their deeds.
And whoso doth good an atom`s weight will see it then,
And whoso doth ill an atom`s weight will see it then.
Allah`s promised NEVER fails!!!
The leaders of AFPRC who claimed to be a pious muslims, take the Qur án and
check Surah:99 verse 6-7-8.
You can do all kinds of evil and try to get so many excusses, but infront of
Allah The Almighty! there will be NO excuss,because you will have all your
deeds infront of you.
Sister Jabou continue the good job there is no time to wait.
Stephen YIP, Canada: said: The students are our most important and precious
crops that the Gambia will ever harvest.
We just have to do our best so that the best crop will not be demaged. What
do you think folk???
George Marc Andrè, Eurpean Union: said:-
We should ask ourselves, what next??? in terms of respect for human rights.
There is a need for dialogue for the incident not to reoccur. Destruction
such as the ones we have witnessed are steps backwards from all the
development that has been registered so far.
We are waiting for the government to see what line of action they are going
to take...
We dont need no peace!!!
We know that, there will be no equal rights.
All what we need is JUSTICE.
And it MUST be done!!!
May Allah The Almighty GUIDE us from Satan and LEAD us to the Straight
Part.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saisina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
(Pulo)
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From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:56 AM
Subject: Letter to President Wade/Please save our students!!!!
> G-L,
>
> Here is a copy of a letter I sent to the Senegalese government on behalf
of
> the students who have fled to Senegal, and whose repatriation is being
sought
> by the regime in Gambia. May I request that Mr Njai put this at the
petition
> website, and may I request one and all to please go there and add your
> signature so we can send this out as soon as possible. Thanks to all.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> To: The Government of Senegal.
> From: All Justice loving Gambians .
>
> Dear President Wade.
>
> We have been notified that the Gambia government has requested Senegal to
> repatriate the students who have fled into Senegal to save their lives
from
> the murderous regime in Gambia that has already killed our children in
cold
> blood, and who are now hunting these students like wild animals.
>
> We call upon you as a neighbour and as a brother who has the best
interest
> of the Gambian people at heart, not to turn our students over to this
regime
> who will probably turture and murder them. Some of the students who have
been
> detained by the Gambia Security forces have not been charged or allowed
> visits with their families, and the whereabouts of some of these students
in
> the hands of the security forces have not been made known to the public or
> their families, even though the government has said that they will conduct
a
> thorough and fair investigation. Time and experience has shown us that we
> cannot put any trust in the promises given by this regime.
>
> It is also a general concensus by all sober thinking Gambians, as well as
> all justice loving people the World over, that the security forces opened
> fire on students when they were exercising their constitutional right to
> demonstrate against what was seen as a gross miscarriage of justice. Two
of
> their fellow students were killed and raped respectively without the
> government making any attempts to bring the culprits to justice, and this
was
> the reason for the demonstration . Infact,of the two cases the students
were
> protesting , the rape case was not even looked into, and in the murder
case,
> the autopsy report was falsified and the perpetrators left to go scot free
> until this tragedy forced them to say that the perpetrators are now in
> custody. Time will tell if this claim is true.
>
> We implore you in the name of all that binds our two countries together,
> and these are many, from blood relationships to a timeless common
history,
> not to repatriate these students to what could undoubtedly be a dismal end
> for such young lives.
>
> The atrocity of firing live bullets into a crowd of young demonstartors
was
> perpetrated on our country by the government of the day, and yet, the best
> thing they have given the Gambian people is a shameless denial, and a
failure
> to face up to the responsibility of inflicting this tragedy on our once
> peaceful and peace loving country.We wish from the bottom of our hearts
that
> this regime would remove itself from the backs of the Gambian people once
and
> for all.
>
> Ours is a dictatorship where nothing happens without the blessing of our
> President, and yet, he stood before the Gambian public and pretended that
he
> was not responsible for this atrocity. Why then are his enforcers hunting
> down our children in cold blood? This denial and callousness is a
nightmare
> that is hovering over the heads of all Gambians the Whole World over. We
are
> desolate, and in the grips of nightmares since this terrible inhumane act,
> the likes of which we never envisioned occurring in our country. We
implore
> you not to worsen this nightmare for us by repatriating our children to
their
> doom.
>
> From all indications,, it is clear that every attempt is being made to
> inflict even more pain and human rights abuses on these students with this
> endless witch hunt, and the rampant arrest of students all over the
country
> since this tragedy unfolded.
>
> We implore you in the name of Allah almighty, as a brother and a
neighbour,
> to make every attempt to save the lives of these poor Gambian students by
not
> only refraining from repatriating them, but also to do everything in your
> power to ensure their safety in Senegal.We put you in charge of their
lives
> with the confidence that this trust will not be betrayed. Thank you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
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"The Man Dies in Whoever Keeps Silent In The Face Of Tyranny"
=
Wole Soyinka
"Every Generation, Out of Relative Obscurity, Discovers its Mission;
Fulfils it Or Betrays It". =20
=
Frantz Fanon
The coup that brought President Jammeh to power was an accident waiting =
to happen. The stage for it had already been set many years earlier, =
when his predecessor decided to transform the Field Force into the =
Gambia National Army.
Within a week of his restoration to power following the violently =
suppressed Kukoi rebellion of July 1981, former President Dawda =
Jawara visited Senegal to pay his respects to the soldiers who lost =
their lives and to thank the Senegalese people and government for their =
support of operation Fode Kabba II. At Yoff International airport, he =
stunned even members of his own delegation by suggesting the possibility =
of a confederal setup with Senegal.
Essentially for his own security concerns, and because recently ousted =
President Abdou Joof had geo-political and economic interests in the =
project, Jawara feverishly pushed on with the creation of the Senegambia =
Confederation, an institution, that even before bringing nothing but =
economic ruin to Gambia, had quickly degenerated into a cascading hub of =
bureaucratic outgrowths: the Presidency, the Confederal Parliament, the =
Council of Ministers, the Confederal Secretariat, and the Confederal =
Army; and all of these institutions, running on a bloated budget =
of looted money were heavily manned by six (?) Confedral =
ministries and their attendant corps of civil servants: heads =
of departments, permanent secretaries, batteries of translators, =
accountants, financial managers, senior clerks, budget clerks, =
pools of typists, drivers, messengers, and watcmen. (Millions =
and millions of dalasi collected by the External Aid Commission for =
rebuilding the country after the destruction it suffered during =
the rebellion was used to finance the Gambian bureaucracy. Much =
of this money, was naturally(!) stolen by officials). =20
In a combination of dazzling idiocy and unusual shrewdness, =
President Jawara and his government went on constructing a =
military monstrosity to ward off any recurring nightmares of =
another Kukoi. He never really adressed the real causes of the =
rebellion. But as a counterweight to Senegalese military =
advantage within the confederal agreements, he insisted on =
calling himself the Commander-in-chief of the Gambian Army, even =
before such an army came into existence!
The logic materialised, and a real Gambian army had to be =
swiftly setup, allowed to mature, grow, get trained, tested to =
become Ready and Able, and equipped with a cogent mission : to =
defend the territorial integrity of the Gambia against foreign =
agresssion (read Libyan agression) , and to die for the =
honourable name of the Gambia in foreign ventures sanctioned by =
the commander-in-chief. But to defend itself against "local =
terrorists", the Gambian state needed an even more sophisticated =
security apparatus. The Gendarmerie and the Military Police =
were created, the CID got strengthened to make possible the =
grafting from it of the National Security Services (NSS), while =
the police remained where they always have been, namely, on =
the streets. From the onset, some of these security institutions =
vied for operational domain before their confusing protocols of =
jurisdiction became properly sorted out.
To my mind the formation of these institutions set the stage =
for the gradual militarisation of Gambian society, a process =
that inevitably, caused the brutalisation of the psyche of many =
of its soldiers. Needless to say, it is these security =
institutions that, perhaps, more than any other, that shaped the =
seemingly complex personality of the nation's foremost soldier, =
President Yahya Jammeh.
SOLDIER WITH A DIFFERENCE
President Jammeh, like most Gambians, came from a very humble =
and poor background.
As a kid in primary school, the experience of growing within the =
globalised horizon of the village endows most of us with very =
tiny dreams. Dreams which gradually become bigger as a result =
partly of migration to high school in the urban areas, and =
partly as a result of interaction with the glittery symbols =
(both of people and materials) of the world beyond Africa's =
dreary frontiers. High school was for President Jammeh the big =
escape route from poverty, a route that must be taken by =
whatever efforts necessary. At GHS he made connections with =
other students, became acutely aware of his materially deprived =
background, appreciated the stratification of Gambian social =
life on class lines and discovered the sort of individuals he =
could look up to as role models. His rural origins themselves =
constituted the conditioning that made belief in the =
artificiality of class differences and the necessity to =
overhawl a corrupt and exploitative economic order very =
unproblematical. He thus became easily influenced first by =
MOJA-G's militiant anti-PPP propaganda and eventually, by PDOIS =
liberation theory. I believe that President Jammeh's political =
views, confusing as they may now seem to be, evolved not from =
a disciplined and dedicated study of political literature. They =
are rather the product of his fleating engagement in a MOJA =
cell, the erratic consumption of radical socialist rhetoric and =
marxist jargons which eventually, from the mid-eighties onward, =
he found academically tempered and rid of their universalist =
pretensions in the pages of Foroyaa.
Political views, radical or tempered, remain views unless backed up =
with power; the sort of power that a Maoist may contend, =
comes from the barrel of a gun. Soldiers are basically trained =
to kill people as effectively as possible, on the one hand, =
and to equally effectively protect people from being killed by =
other soldiers who their commanders define as enemies, on the =
other hand. i.e they are supposed to behave brutally or kindly =
depending on the circumstantial whims of whoever they receive =
orders from.
Unfortunately the militarisation of Gambian society did not stop =
at the creation of the mentioned institutions. Permanent police =
stops, security check-points, the constant shrill of sirens as =
YJJ flies by, ID card controls, the incessant public display =
of military hardware, open arrogance to civilians, and the =
humiliating treatment of people suspected of wrong-doing, the =
arbitrary arrest, detention and torture of members of the =
opposition, the repressive excesses of the now disbanded July 22 =
Movement, all are elements in a process of conditioning that =
is supposed to firmly establish the authorithy of the security =
forces. Even more serious (as sister Jabou Joh mentioned), is =
the killing, of one then another, then yet another murder, so =
that the recurring death of civilians in the hands of the =
security forces not just becomes commonplace, but gradually =
imprints on our collective psyche as "normal" occurences in =
everyday Gambian life. YJJ himself contributes to this brutality =
during his vitrioilic moments by publicly threatening Gambians =
that they would go six feet deep, that he would turn specific =
sets of opponents into fine cuts of steak, that he would =
snuff the life out of them like bed-bugs. This may have been =
his way of being a typical raw, dry-humored Gambian, but he =
was in that process also "hinting" at some members of his =
security apparatus that indeed such a fate is not unimaginable =
for some enemies! The people do not only have to endure the =
grim harshness of day-to-day existence, they have been forced =
to endure physical and psychological abuse from the state and =
its instruments of coercion. The government expects people to =
show gratitude for its commitments to development programs, but =
it fails to see the tyranny it has degenerated into. Thousands =
and thousands of Gambian families know only too well that they =
would be on the brink of starvation had it not been for the =
remittances they receive from family members working abroad. =
(Gambians and other friends of Gambians annually send 150 =
million (!) dalasi home - more than two-thirds of all direct =
investment in the country. These are central bank figures - =
averaged over the past eight years! Most of this money goes =
right into the national treasury as school fees, indirect tax, =
customs duties, and other tariffs).
Because the Gambian state was so preoccupied with its own =
security concerns for the past twenty years it conveniently =
forgot about the basic security needs of the population it was =
supposed to serve and protect. Gambian public space has been =
constantly invaded and intimidated by the mere visibility of =
security men. But the callous brutality that YJJ's rule brought =
to Gambians is far beyond anything that can be associated =
with Jawara's lazy and unambitious presidency. Yet both of them =
would without a wink sacrifice Gambian lives in order to =
cling onto power. "The Presidential chair is too sweet to =
leave", said Daniel Arap Moi.
A young man from Dippa-Kunda walking on the beach with his =
lady friend, is shot to death because, the security officer =
claimed, he disobeyed his command to stop.
Another man, a taxi-driver, because he failed to respond =
sufficiently quickly to the siren signal to abandon the =
highway, was shot at point-blank range in the head, to the =
horror of by-standers. It is this bloody pattern of summary =
executions by inexperienced, ignorant operatives, who have never =
learned how to responsibly control so much power, and who are =
prepared to defend at all cost all the trappings coterminous with =
that power, that led to the tragic torture-death of Ebrima =
Barry. Cutting down to pieces a dozen and more defenceless =
students is the ultimate descent into zombiehood of a section =
of our security forces at par with that ignominious contingent =
of Nigerian soldiers that Wole Soyinka and his compatriots =
refer to as the "Kill-And-Go!"
YJJ and the team that toppled Jawara from power emerged with a =
progressive platform. Immediately, he surrounded himself with =
former MOJA buddies, (the famous National Consultative Council, that =
was headed by Lenrie Peters, included at least three former MOJA =
militants), a teacher he admired, a student-days friend and a relative. =
That he also asked Mr. Halifa Sallah of PDOIS twice (!?) to join his =
government, speaks volumes about his ideological orientation. (I wrote =
about the uneasy relationship between PDOIS and the APRC some 18 months =
ago in this forum). The AFPRC assumed power without being equipped =
with the capacity to handle the effects of that power on their own =
psychological make-up ; without being equipped with a cogent and =
relevant programme to carry out once in control of the machinery of =
state; and above all without the backing of a well established =
DEMOCRATIC MASS-ORGANIZATION with tested and sincere militants who could =
be relied upon to implement a programme as progressive as they =
declared they would carry out. The preoccupation with security matters, =
the litanies of failed real or feigned coup plots, the instability of =
the government (ministers go in and out as if summoned by the pharoah =
for the kiss of death), the incessant abuses of the constitutional =
rights of citizens, the suppression of press freedom, etc. all attests =
to the huge absence of such an organisation. A democratic organisation =
of workers, progressive journalists, concerned citizens, civil servants, =
businessmen, progressive intellectuals, artists and people from all =
walks of life is what Gambia and the rest of Africa is yearning for. It =
is such an organization that would have carried the mantel from the =
students' struggle towards a true democratic transformation.
(I would conclude this piece in a second episode where I will discuss =
the case for a national organsation).
Momodou S. Sidibeh
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cascading=20
hub of bureaucratic outgrowths: the Presidency, the Confederal =
Parliament, the=20
Council of Ministers, the Confederal Secretariat, and the =
Confederal Army;=20
and all of these institutions, running on =20
a bloated budget of looted =
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of dalasi collected by the External Aid =
Commission =20
for rebuilding the country after the =20
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dazzling idiocy and unusual shrewdness, =20
President Jawara and his government =20
went on constructing a military =
monstrosity =20
to ward off any recurring nightmares =
of another Kukoi. He never =
really =20
adressed the real causes of the =
rebellion. =20
But as a counterweight to Senegalese =20
military advantage within the confederal =20
agreements, he insisted on calling =
himself =20
the Commander-in-chief of the Gambian =
Army, =20
even before such an army came into=20
existence!</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">The logic =
materialised, =20
and a real Gambian army =
had =20
to be swiftly setup, allowed to =
mature, =20
grow, get trained, tested to =
become =20
Ready and Able, and equipped with a =20
cogent mission : to defend the =
territorial =20
integrity of the Gambia against =
foreign =20
agresssion (read Libyan agression) , and to =
die for the honourable name of =
the =20
Gambia in foreign ventures sanctioned =
by =20
the commander-in-chief. But to defend =
itself =20
against "local terrorists", the Gambian =20
state needed an even more =20
sophisticated security apparatus. The =20
Gendarmerie and the Military Police =
were =20
created, the CID got strengthened =
to =20
make possible the grafting from it =20
of the National Security Services =
(NSS), =20
while the police remained where they =
always =20
have been, namely, on the streets. =20
From the onset, some of these =
security =20
institutions vied for operational domain =20
before their confusing protocols of =20
jurisdiction became properly sorted out.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">To my mind the =20
formation of these institutions set =
the =20
stage for the gradual militarisation =
of Gambian society, a process that =20
inevitably, caused the brutalisation of =
the =20
psyche of many of its soldiers. =
Needless =20
to say, it is these =20
security institutions that, perhaps, more =20
than any other, that shaped the =20
seemingly complex personality of the =20
nation's foremost soldier, =
President Yahya =20
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<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">President Jammeh, =
like most=20
Gambians, came from a very humble =
and poor=20
background.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">As a kid in primary school, the =20
experience of growing within the =
globalised =20
horizon of the village endows most =
of =20
us with very tiny dreams. Dreams =
which =20
gradually become bigger as a result =20
partly of migration to high school =
in =20
the urban areas, and partly as =
a=20
result of interaction with the =
glittery =20
symbols (both of people and =
materials) =20
of the world beyond Africa's dreary =20
frontiers. High school was for =20
President Jammeh the big escape =
route =20
from poverty, a route that =
must =20
be taken by whatever efforts =
necessary. =20
At GHS he made connections =
with =20
other students, became acutely aware of =
his =20
materially deprived background, =
appreciated =20
the stratification of Gambian social =
life on class lines and discovered =
the =20
sort of individuals he could look =
up =20
to as role models. His rural =20
origins themselves constituted the =20
conditioning that made belief in the =
artificiality of class differences =
and =20
the necessity to =
overhawl a =20
corrupt and exploitative economic =
order =20
very unproblematical. He thus became =20
easily influenced first by MOJA-G's =20
militiant anti-PPP propaganda and =
eventually, =20
by PDOIS liberation theory. I =
believe =20
that President Jammeh's political =
views, =20
confusing as they may now seem to =
be, =20
evolved not from a disciplined and =20
dedicated study of political literature. =20
They are rather the product of his =
fleating =20
engagement in a MOJA cell, the =
erratic =20
consumption of radical socialist rhetoric=20
and marxist jargons which eventually, =
from the mid-eighties onward, he =
found =20
academically tempered and rid of =
their =20
universalist pretensions in the pages =
of Foroyaa.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Political views, radical or=20
tempered, remain views unless backed up =
with =20
power; the sort of power that a =
Maoist =20
may contend, comes from the barrel =
of =20
a gun. Soldiers are basically =
trained =20
to kill people as effectively as =20
possible, on the one hand, and =
to equally effectively protect people =
from being killed by other soldiers =20
who their commanders define as enemies, =
on =20
the other hand. i.e they are =
supposed =20
to behave brutally or kindly =
depending =20
on the circumstantial whims of =
whoever =20
they receive orders from.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Unfortunately the =20
militarisation of Gambian society did =
not =20
stop at the creation of the =
mentioned =20
institutions. Permanent police stops, =
security =20
check-points, the constant shrill of =
sirens =20
as YJJ flies by, ID card =
controls, =20
the incessant public display of =
military =20
hardware, open arrogance to civilians, =
and =20
the humiliating treatment of people =20
suspected of wrong-doing, the =
arbitrary =20
arrest, detention and torture of =
members =20
of the opposition, the repressive =
excesses =20
of the now disbanded July 22 Movement, =
all =20
are elements in a process of =20
conditioning that is supposed to =20
firmly establish the authorithy of =
the =20
security forces. Even more serious =
(as =20
sister Jabou Joh mentioned), is =20
the killing, of one then another, =
then =20
yet another murder, so that the =
recurring =20
death of civilians in the hands =
of =20
the security forces not just =
becomes =20
commonplace, but gradually imprints on =
our =20
collective psyche as "normal" occurences =
in =20
everyday Gambian life. YJJ himself =
contributes =20
to this brutality during his =
vitrioilic =20
moments by publicly threatening Gambians =
that=20
they would go six feet deep, =
that =20
he would turn specific sets of =20
opponents into fine cuts of steak, =20
that he would snuff the life =
out =20
of them like bed-bugs. This may =
have =20
been his way of being a =
typical =20
raw, dry-humored Gambian, but he was =
in that process also "hinting" at =
some =20
members of his security apparatus =
that =20
indeed such a fate is not =
unimaginable =20
for some enemies! The people do not =20
only have to endure the =
grim =20
harshness of day-to-day existence, they =
have =20
been forced to endure physical and =20
psychological abuse from the state =
and =20
its instruments of coercion. The =20
government expects people to show =
gratitude =20
for its commitments to development =
programs, =20
but it fails to see the =
tyranny =20
it has degenerated into. Thousands and=20
thousands of Gambian families know =
only too=20
well that they would be on the =
brink of starvation had it not =
been =20
for the remittances they receive =
from =20
family members working abroad. (Gambians =
and =20
other friends of Gambians annually =
send 150=20
million (!) dalasi home - more than =
two-thirds =20
of all direct investment in the =20
country. These are central bank =
figures -=20
averaged over the past eight years! =
Most =20
of this money goes right into =
the =20
national treasury as school fees, =
indirect =20
tax, customs duties, and other tariffs).</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Because the Gambian =
state =20
was so preoccupied with its own =20
security concerns for the past twenty =
years =20
it conveniently forgot about the =
basic =20
security needs of the population it =20
was supposed to serve and protect. =20
Gambian public space has been =
constantly =20
invaded and intimidated by the mere =20
visibility of security men. But the =20
callous brutality that YJJ's rule =
brought =20
to Gambians is far beyond anything =20
that can be associated =
with Jawara's =20
lazy and unambitious presidency. Yet =
both =20
of them would without a wink =
sacrifice =20
Gambian lives in order to cling =
onto =20
power. "The Presidential chair is =
too =20
sweet to leave", said Daniel Arap =
Moi.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">A young man =
from =20
Dippa-Kunda walking on the beach with =
his =20
lady friend, is shot to death =
because, =20
the security officer claimed, he disobeyed =
his command to stop.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Another man, a =
taxi-driver, =20
because he failed to respond =20
sufficiently quickly to the siren =20
signal to abandon the highway, was =20
shot at point-blank range in the head, =
to =20
the horror of by-standers. It is =
this =20
bloody pattern of summary executions by inexperienced, =20
ignorant operatives, who have never =
learned =20
how to responsibly control so much =20
power, and who are prepared to =
defend at=20
all cost all the =
trappings coterminous =20
with that power, that led to the =20
tragic torture-death of Ebrima Barry. =20
Cutting down to pieces a dozen and =
more =20
defenceless students is the ultimate =
descent =20
into zombiehood of a section of =
our =20
security forces at par with that =20
ignominious contingent of Nigerian =
soldiers =20
that Wole Soyinka and his =
compatriots =20
refer to as the "Kill-And-Go!"</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">YJJ and the team that =
toppled =20
Jawara from power emerged with a =20
progressive platform. Immediately, he surrounded =
himself with former MOJA buddies, (the famous =
National=20
Consultative Council, that was headed by Lenrie Peters, =
included at=20
least three former MOJA militants), a teacher he admired, a =
student-days=20
friend and a relative. That he also asked Mr. Halifa Sallah of PDOIS =
twice (!?)=20
to join his government, speaks volumes about his ideological =
orientation. (I=20
wrote about the uneasy relationship between PDOIS and the APRC some =
18=20
months ago in this forum). The AFPRC assumed power =
without=20
being equipped with the capacity to handle the effects of that =
power on=20
their own psychological make-up ; without being equipped =
with =20
a cogent and relevant programme to =
carry out=20
once in control of the machinery of state; and above all without =
the=20
backing of a well established DEMOCRATIC MASS-ORGANIZATION with tested =
and=20
sincere militants who could be relied upon to implement a =
programme as=20
progressive as they declared they would carry out. The =
preoccupation with=20
security matters, the litanies of failed real or feigned coup plots, the =
instability of the government (ministers go in and out as if =
summoned by=20
the pharoah for the kiss of death), the incessant abuses of the =
constitutional=20
rights of citizens, the suppression of press freedom, etc. all attests =
to the=20
huge absence of such an organisation. A democratic organisation of =
workers,=20
progressive journalists, concerned citizens, civil servants, =
businessmen,=20
progressive intellectuals, artists and people from all walks of =
life is=20
what Gambia and the rest of Africa is yearning for. It is such an =
organization=20
that would have carried the mantel from the students' =
struggle=20
towards a true democratic transformation.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">(I would conclude this piece in a =
second episode=20
where I will discuss the case for a national organsation).</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">Momodou S. Sidibeh</DIV>
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Political parties in Gambia since independence have been able to =
mobilise support especially during election years. But they command =
loyalty not as a result principally of ideological commitment but rather =
that of ethnic solidarity, patron-client relationships and personal =
loyalty. Their internal organisation is largely undemocratic and where =
any form of administration exists, it is generally weak and ineffective. =
Liberal democracy and socialism, both based on systemic ideologies =
expressing particular social values have no real roots in Gambia. There =
is no real bourgeiosie to champion the cause of liberalism and =
democratic constitutionalism. Yet class consciousness is also so weak as =
to make the identification of class enemies difficult. This is =
especially so in the country-side where exploitation occurs not in =
production but in exchange. There is simply no class of land-owners =
comparable to anything obtaining in say, Zimbabwe and many =
Latin-American countries. The trade unions are weak and divided and the =
workers' movement, unlike in Senegal, seems to have condemned itself =
from expressing political concerns. =20
Whatever constitutes the left in Gambian politics has remained tiny, =
ineffectual and hopelessly divided since the demise of Black Brotherhood =
and the Kwame Nkrumah Memorial Foundation of the late 60s. The latter =
collapsed under recriminations of treachery within its leadership, =
elements of which, while still operating from different platforms, only =
remember one another with caustic bitterness. Some were to resurface in =
PDOIS in the mid eighties, while others had already reappeared on the =
scene in MOJA in 1979, calling for the revolutionary overthrow of the =
Jawara regime. Yet other members of the Foundation simply became running =
bureaucrats of the Jawara regime, even as many others opted for exile in =
the United States.=20
While PDOIS has remained active since 1985/86, MOJA has remained =
paralysed as a result of internal differences that emerged following =
Jawara's lifting of the ban in November 1992. These differences were =
still unresolved when in July 1994 the Jawara regime was overthrown. =
Needless to say, many of the members simply joined the Jammeh bandwagon, =
eventhough their organisation rejected coups as an alternative method of =
bringing about progressive social change. Added to the reasons I gave =
earlier for the failure of the coup makers in delivering on their =
promises, is the fact that soldiers have a tendency to substitute =
themselves for the working class.=20
In societies where economic chaos, uncertainty and political =
disintegration threaten, the military usually ceases power not just =
because it believes itself to have the preponderance of armed force on =
its side. But largely because it always happens to be the best organised =
section of the population. Its regimen of discipline, robust chain of =
command, and tested professionalism ensures that it always posseses the =
organisational readiness to cease power and exercise it effectively. So =
in African countries where societal progress has not involved a strong =
tradition of orgnisation-building across ethnic and class lines and =
where traditional clan-based organisations failed to be conduits for =
political mobilisation, the emergence of a power vacuum itself is =
tantamount to an invitation to soldiers to cease power. =20
THE CASE FOR A NON-PARTISAN =
ORGANZATION
Eventhough the 1996/97 elections ushered in civilian rule, the Jammeh =
regime is quasi-military in character. The July 22 Movement, as Kabir =
Njie wrote, was to be a reproduction of Gadaffi's September 1 Movement. =
But Gambia, unlike Libya, is also a multi-party constitutional =
democracy, that elects a National Assembly comprising of representatives =
that the people "freely" elect. In short, oppositional politics is a =
fact of Gambian political life, and the APRC government can only be as =
legitimate as the degree of public consent its rule commands. But in a =
harsh economic climate, the killing and disappearance of Gambians amidst =
suspicions of cover-ups, permanent instability, and the heavy presence =
of the security forces in the daily lives of Gambians, widespread public =
resentments were simply forced underground. The regime's waning =
popularity meant it can obtain legitimacy only through coercion and =
patronage. The July 22 Movement was an instrument for such coercion. =
Jammeh himself bought instrumental allegiance by sending planeloads of =
influential people to the Hajj, in combination with an unpresidential =
display of largess.
With all these factors in mind, it appears to me that the only way for =
Gambians to break this cycle of abuse, to create a counter force against =
the adventurists designs of other coup plotters, to put an end to the =
vagaries of endemic corruption, to give hope to the marginalised and =
give voice to the voiceless, to define concrete social values worth =
dying for, a non-partisan organisation of Gambians is necessary. =
Non-partisan because this kind of organisation should not pay allegiance =
to any kind of "mansa-president". It should remain independent while =
making a critique of power minding only what it deems stands in the =
best interests of the nation at all times, inventing traditions and =
proferring a progressive cultural outlook. Because political parties =
cannot guarantee the freedom of Gambians whether or not they are in =
power, it will be the work of this organisation to see to it that =
dialogue with those in power is established and maintained at all times, =
criticising when necessary, and praising where praise is due.=20
However, given our poor capacities to put words into action, such an =
organisation is best helped if it starts with a minimum program that =
immediately appeals to all Gambians. I have in mind the struggle for =
basic human rights. It is only when the government in power respects and =
works to observe the democratic rights of citizens, that a climate =
conducive to making steady progress in the economic and social =
well-being of the people becomes possible. Human Rights are just that =
basic.
Well, how ready are we?=20
Here is a brief look at betrayed commitments:
ONE:
In early1995, about six months after the coup a group of Gambian =
intellectuals (let us not be scared of this word) based in the US =
(almost all of them Ph.D holders), made a pledge that they would from =
then on participate in national development. They wrote that they =
regretted their conspicous disengagement with Gambian issues during =
Jawara's reign. I am sure many of you may remember that apology. What =
they have done since then, I have no idea. The nation is now calling on =
them and all of us to listen to the grievances, concerns, and fears of =
the common people, articulate these concerns and transforming them into =
concrete action, imploring those in power to act accordingly. That =
should be the fumdamental role of intellectuals in any society.=20
TWO:
A year or so ago, a Gambian lady by the name of Mam Betty Jallow who =
worked at the embassy in Washington D.C was dismissed from her work =
under circumstances which appeared to many on this list to be without =
merit. The issue over whether or not her dismissal was warranted =
generated a harsh and heated debate during which invectives were traded =
for a couple of weeks. It was finally accepted that those who wanted to =
pursue Mam Betty's case with an intention to accord her some possible =
redress, pending that the termination of her services was unwarranted, =
should privately proceed and consult with the relevant Gambian =
authorities. It turned out that inspite of all the noise made in her =
favour, only two people linked up privately to attempt to consult with =
the SOS for External Affairs, Dr. Sedat Jobe.
THREE:
I think it began with a Top Ten from Mafy Jarjue, and then a second Top =
Ten from Ndey Jobarteh (aka The Struggle Continues). The former, =
extremely supportive of the Gambia government depicted everything in =
Gambia as just about excellent. As for the second Top Ten list =
everything in Gambia was just as bad, and getting worse. In between the =
two extremes, a huge gulf emerge in which Satan lived. Coupled with =
another hot Matarr Njie issue, Gambia-Lers knocked at each other =
mercilessly. No insults in our streetwise vocabularly were spared during =
the war of words. It went on until everybody got very sick. A herbal =
potion was invented and we called it National Reconciliation. =
Suggestions as to what could be done towards that end came in abundance, =
some from Katim, others from Alpha and many others. Abdoulie Saine's =
article was approved for distribution to the President and the press, =
calling for the setting up of a National Reconciliation Committee. I =
later privately enquired from Dr. Saine, Dr. Touray and Alpha Robinson =
on feedback on the suggestions. Except for the publication of an =
abridged version of Saine's article in New African, little else seems to =
have resulted from the high sounding proposals.
FOUR:
At about the same time, I enquired from Jabou Joh and Awa Sey on the =
state of health of the GESO (the Gambia Educational Support =
organization), an organization as politically neutral as any can be. Its =
basic aim is to help Gambian students in need of assistance and to also =
send educational materials (books, computers, etc) to needy schools. At =
the time I made my enquiry there were about 600 registered subscribers =
on Gambia-L. In its two-year existence, GESO membership was a pitiful =
32!! - just 5% of the number of subscribers. So little is the practical =
consequences of so much patriotic cant.
I have been narrating these concrete experiences because I fear that we =
might make committments we may not be able to fulfil; and that would be =
tantamount to defiling the memories of all the victims of the April 2000 =
massacre. Ideas as to what is to be done may emerge from cyberspace. But =
action to unseat President Yahya Jammeh must of necessity be carried out =
in the streets in Gambia, even long after he is gone. This will be so =
because there is nothing that says that the next President will be any =
better. Did we not all celebrate when Fafa finally fell?
We have a serious cultural problem, and we all know it. We cannot just =
burst into our history like a bunch of miffed periscope-eyed crustaceans =
that dart in and out of their holes as if to mock your human presence on =
their beach. For far too long Gambians (and most Africans for that =
matter) have remained by-standers watching their future being stolen by =
lunatics who would just as readily subject moral ideas into service for =
their private passions. Gambians in Sweden would not get organised until =
the police threaten them with permanent humiliation. As if they suffer =
from some form of collective amnesia that temporarily makes them forget =
they are black people! All of us will not do a thing until when after =
the blood of students set the wheels of change in motion. What right do =
we have for not decisively intervening in our own history? Is it not our =
own failure that allows others to draw the agenda for our lives, =
ironically now that we are experts in both how this world and the next =
are managed? We seem to think that it is okay to engage with our =
reality only seasonally, as if we are all a frenzied bunch of peanut =
farmers. If we want lasting change, then we have to change ourselves. =
Now.
There is a need for some kind of ideological commitment ; a commitment =
that is regenerative, that inspires, and that is fulfilling. I see no =
other alternative to the need to get organized. For the sake of our =
common weal.
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=20
(This is not the first time I am putting forward the case for a =
national, non-partisan organisation on this list. I now see no reason =
why it should not be the last).
Before you go to bed tonight, think of this: There are nearly half a =
million Eritreans living outside their homeland. Their exodus has been =
occasioned by the 30-year war for Independence. They have a very strong =
sense of nationalism. Everyone of them earning a salary or living on =
welfare is obliged to pay 2% of their income directly to their =
government. This money goes to pay a large percentage of the salaries of =
public employees. They want to be economically independent and incur as =
little debt as possible from international lending institutions.=20
The point I want to make here is that the Eritreans have looked into =
their reality and that of the world, and invented a fitting tradition =
for themselves. There is no reason in the world why we cannot invent one =
for ourselves.
"nJaaraama"!
Momodou S Sidibeh
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<DIV>Political parties in Gambia since independence have been able to =
mobilise=20
support especially during election years. But they command loyalty not =
as a=20
result principally of ideological commitment but rather that of ethnic=20
solidarity, patron-client relationships and personal loyalty. =
Their=20
internal organisation is largely undemocratic and where any form of=20
administration exists, it is generally weak and ineffective. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Liberal democracy and socialism, both based on systemic ideologies=20
expressing particular social values have no real roots in Gambia. There =
is no=20
real bourgeiosie to champion the cause of liberalism and democratic=20
constitutionalism. Yet class consciousness is also so weak as to =
make the=20
identification of class enemies difficult. This is especially so in the=20
country-side where exploitation occurs not in production but in=20
exchange. There is simply no class of land-owners comparable =
to=20
anything obtaining in say, Zimbabwe and many Latin-American countries. =
The trade=20
unions are weak and divided and the workers' movement, unlike in =
Senegal, seems=20
to have condemned itself from expressing political=20
concerns. </DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Whatever constitutes the left in Gambian politics has remained =
tiny, =20
ineffectual and hopelessly divided since the demise of Black Brotherhood =
and the=20
Kwame Nkrumah Memorial Foundation of the late 60s. The latter =
collapsed=20
under recriminations of treachery within its leadership, elements of =
which,=20
while still operating from different platforms, only remember one =
another with=20
caustic bitterness. Some were to resurface in PDOIS in the mid eighties, =
while=20
others had already reappeared on the scene in MOJA in 1979, calling for =
the=20
revolutionary overthrow of the Jawara regime. Yet other members of the=20
Foundation simply became running bureaucrats of the Jawara regime, even =
as many=20
others opted for exile in the United States. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>While PDOIS has remained active since 1985/86, MOJA has remained =
paralysed=20
as a result of internal differences that emerged following Jawara's =
lifting of=20
the ban in November 1992. These differences were still =
unresolved when=20
in July 1994 the Jawara regime was overthrown. Needless to say, many of =
the=20
members simply joined the Jammeh bandwagon, eventhough their=20
organisation rejected coups as an alternative method of bringing =
about=20
progressive social change. Added to the reasons I gave =
earlier for=20
the failure of the coup makers in delivering on their promises, is =
the fact=20
that soldiers have a tendency to substitute themselves for the working =
class.=20
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> </FONT>In =
societies=20
where economic chaos, uncertainty and political disintegration threaten, =
the=20
military usually ceases power not just because it believes itself to =
have the=20
preponderance of armed force on its side. But largely because it always =
happens=20
to be the best organised section of the population. Its regimen of =
discipline,=20
robust chain of command, and tested professionalism ensures that =
it always=20
posseses the organisational readiness to cease power =
and=20
exercise it effectively. So in African countries where societal progress =
has not=20
involved a strong tradition of orgnisation-building across ethnic and =
class=20
lines and where traditional clan-based organisations failed to be =
conduits for=20
political mobilisation, the emergence of a power vacuum itself is=20
tantamount to an invitation to soldiers to cease power. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT=20
size=3D2> &nbs=
p;  =
; =
=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D3>THE CASE FOR A NON-PARTISAN =
ORGANZATION</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Eventhough the 1996/97 elections ushered in civilian rule, the =
Jammeh=20
regime is quasi-military in character. The July 22 Movement, =
as=20
Kabir Njie wrote, was to be a reproduction of Gadaffi's September =
1=20
Movement. But Gambia, unlike Libya, is also a multi-party constitutional =
democracy, that elects a National Assembly comprising of representatives =
that=20
the people "freely" elect. In short, oppositional politics is a fact of =
Gambian=20
political life, and the APRC government can only be as legitimate as the =
degree=20
of public consent its rule commands. But in a harsh economic =
climate, the=20
killing and disappearance of Gambians amidst suspicions of cover-ups, =
permanent=20
instability, and the heavy presence of the security forces in the daily =
lives of=20
Gambians, widespread public resentments were simply forced =
underground. =20
The regime's waning popularity meant it can obtain legitimacy only =
through=20
coercion and patronage. The July 22 Movement was an instrument for such=20
coercion. Jammeh himself bought instrumental allegiance by sending =
planeloads of influential people to the Hajj, in combination with an=20
unpresidential display of largess.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>With all these factors in mind, it appears to me that the only way =
for=20
Gambians to break this cycle of abuse, to create a counter force against =
the=20
adventurists designs of other coup plotters, to put an end to the =
vagaries of=20
endemic corruption, to give hope to the marginalised and give =
voice=20
to the voiceless, to define concrete social values worth dying for, a=20
non-partisan organisation of Gambians is necessary. Non-partisan because =
this=20
kind of organisation should not pay allegiance to any kind of =
"mansa-president".=20
It should remain independent while making a critique of power =
minding only=20
what it deems stands in the best interests of the nation at all times, =
inventing=20
traditions and proferring a progressive cultural outlook. Because =
political=20
parties cannot guarantee the freedom of Gambians whether or not they are =
in=20
power, it will be the work of this organisation to see to it that =
dialogue with=20
those in power is established and maintained at all times, criticising =
when=20
necessary, and praising where praise is due. </DIV>
<DIV>However, given our poor capacities to put words into action, =
such=20
an organisation is best helped if it starts with a minimum =
program=20
that immediately appeals to all Gambians. I have in mind the struggle =
for basic=20
human rights. It is only when the government in power respects and works =
to=20
observe the democratic rights of citizens, that a climate conducive to =
making=20
steady progress in the economic and social well-being of the people =
becomes=20
possible. Human Rights are just that basic.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Well, how ready are we? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Here is a brief look at betrayed commitments:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>ONE:</DIV>
<DIV>In early1995, about six months after the coup a group of Gambian=20
intellectuals (let us not be scared of this word) based in the US =
(almost all of=20
them Ph.D holders), made a pledge that they would from then on =
participate=20
in national development. They wrote that they regretted their=20
conspicous disengagement with Gambian issues during Jawara's reign. =
I am=20
sure many of you may remember that apology. What they have done =
since then,=20
I have no idea. The nation is now calling on them and all of us to =
listen to the=20
grievances, concerns, and fears of the common people, articulate these =
concerns=20
and transforming them into concrete action, imploring those in power to =
act=20
accordingly. That should be the fumdamental role of intellectuals in any =
society. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>TWO:</DIV>
<DIV>A year or so ago, a Gambian lady by the name of Mam Betty Jallow =
who worked=20
at the embassy in Washington D.C was dismissed from her work under =
circumstances=20
which appeared to many on this list to be without merit. The issue over =
whether=20
or not her dismissal was warranted generated a harsh and heated debate =
during=20
which invectives were traded for a couple of weeks. It was finally =
accepted=20
that those who wanted to pursue Mam Betty's case with an intention to =
accord=20
her some possible redress, pending that the termination of her =
services=20
was unwarranted, should privately proceed and consult with the relevant =
Gambian=20
authorities. It turned out that inspite of all the noise made in her =
favour,=20
only two people linked up privately to attempt to consult with the =
SOS for=20
External Affairs, Dr. Sedat Jobe.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>THREE:</DIV>
<DIV>I think it began with a Top Ten from Mafy Jarjue, and then a second =
Top Ten=20
from Ndey Jobarteh (aka The Struggle Continues). The former, extremely=20
supportive of the Gambia government depicted everything in Gambia as =
just about=20
excellent. As for the second Top Ten list everything in Gambia was just =
as bad,=20
and getting worse. In between the two extremes, a huge gulf emerge in =
which=20
Satan lived. Coupled with another hot Matarr Njie issue, Gambia-Lers =
knocked at=20
each other mercilessly. No insults in our streetwise vocabularly were =
spared=20
during the war of words. It went on until everybody got very sick. A =
herbal=20
potion was invented and we called it National Reconciliation. =
Suggestions as to=20
what could be done towards that end came in abundance, some from Katim, =
others=20
from Alpha and many others. Abdoulie Saine's article was approved for=20
distribution to the President and the press, calling for the setting up =
of a=20
National Reconciliation Committee. I later privately =
enquired from=20
Dr. Saine, Dr. Touray and Alpha Robinson on feedback on the =
suggestions.=20
Except for the publication of an abridged version of Saine's article in =
New=20
African, little else seems to have resulted from the high sounding=20
proposals.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>FOUR:</DIV>
<DIV>At about the same time, I enquired from Jabou Joh and Awa Sey on =
the state=20
of health of the GESO (the Gambia Educational Support organization), an=20
organization as politically neutral as any can be. Its basic aim is to =
help=20
Gambian students in need of assistance and to also send educational =
materials=20
(books, computers, etc) to needy schools. At the time I made my enquiry =
there=20
were about 600 registered subscribers on Gambia-L. In its two-year =
existence,=20
GESO membership was a pitiful 32!! - just 5% of the number of =
subscribers.<FONT=20
size=3D2> </FONT>So little is the practical consequences of so much =
patriotic=20
cant.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have been narrating these concrete experiences because I fear=20
that we might make committments we may not be able to fulfil; and =
that=20
would be tantamount to defiling the memories of all the victims of =
the=20
April 2000 massacre. Ideas as to what is to be done may emerge from =
cyberspace. But action to unseat President Yahya Jammeh must =
of=20
necessity be carried out in the streets in Gambia, even =
long =20
after he is gone. This will be so because there is nothing that says =
that the=20
next President will be any better. Did we not all celebrate when Fafa =
finally=20
fell?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We have a serious cultural problem, and we all know it. We cannot=20
just burst into our history like a bunch of miffed =
periscope-eyed=20
crustaceans that dart in and out of their holes as if to mock your human =
presence on their beach. For far too long Gambians (and most =
Africans for=20
that matter) have remained by-standers watching their future being =
stolen by=20
lunatics who would just as readily subject moral ideas into service for =
their=20
private passions. Gambians in Sweden would not get organised until the =
police=20
threaten them with permanent humiliation. As if they suffer from some =
form of=20
collective amnesia that temporarily makes them forget they are =
black=20
people! All of us will not do a thing until when after the blood of =
students set=20
the wheels of change in motion. What right do we have for not =
decisively=20
intervening in our own history? Is it not our own failure that =
allows=20
others to draw the agenda for our lives, ironically now that we are =
experts=20
in both how this world and the next are managed? We seem to =
think=20
that it is okay to engage with our reality only seasonally, as if we are =
all a=20
frenzied bunch of peanut farmers. If we want lasting change, then =
we have=20
to change ourselves. Now.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There is a need for some kind of ideological commitment ; a =
commitment that=20
is regenerative, that inspires, and that is fulfilling. I see no other=20
alternative to the need to get organized. For the sake of our common =
weal.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT =
size=3D2>=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=
=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(</FONT><FONT size=3D3>This is not the first time I =
am putting=20
forward the case for a national, non-partisan organisation on this list. =
I now=20
see no reason why it should not be the last).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Before you go to bed tonight, think of this: There are nearly half =
a=20
million Eritreans living outside their homeland. Their exodus has been=20
occasioned by the 30-year war for Independence. They have a very strong =
sense of=20
nationalism. Everyone of them earning a salary or living on welfare is =
obliged=20
to pay 2% of their income directly to their government. This money goes =
to pay a=20
large percentage of the salaries of public employees. They want to be=20
economically independent and incur as little debt as possible from =
international=20
lending institutions. </DIV>
<DIV>The point I want to make here is that the Eritreans have looked =
into their=20
reality and that of the world, and invented a fitting tradition for =
themselves.=20
There is no reason in the world why we cannot invent one for =
ourselves.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"nJaaraama"!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Momodou S Sidibeh</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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Jabou:
That was an excellent thought ...as parents we know how it feels losing a
child....I have the email address of the Gambia desk at the State department
and I will foward it to the list tomorrow..
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Thank you very much for the reply Jabou.I have doubts, to believe
that.he does not
want to be the President of the Gambia.
IF SO,WHY DID HE ACCEPT THE POST OF ATTORNEY GENERAL?
"MISAAL BI MONEKKA"
If i accept the job of an accounts clerk,i will never reject the
appointment of
an accountant.
NB.
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FELLOW GAMBIANS:
After a week of ceaseless condemnation in cyber-space and other media
outlets of April 10 - 11 events in The Gambia, the captured young boys and
girls are facing the worse nightmare of their young lives. They laid down
their lives attempting to restore freedom and decency to the Gambian nation.
Against this backdrop, it would be unconscionable by any standard of measure
to allow these young folks to wallow in despair of deplorable prison
conditions without urgent assistance from our end to secure their release.
As this issue begins to take its natural course in receding into oblivion (a
typical Gambian trait), this promise I make to the school children in
custody : YOU CAN COUNT ON ME, I WILL NEVER ABANDONED YOU (I can only speak
for myself)! I hope that you find solace in that efforts are being made
diplomatically and in U.S. congress to secure your release immediately and
unconditionally. It's not up to Jammeh any more, this is what is going to
happen ... you will be freed.
On a personal note my friends, I'm heart sick to lament that the harmony and
peace that was a tradition in our country ceases to exist with the formation
of this obnoxious regime 6 years ago. What is even more troubling to me is
the totality of the venom that has engulfed the hearts of our people brought
about by a determined efforts of a despot to clinch on to power
surreptitiously. The Gambia is a sick nation. What a tragedy!
MUSA BASSADI JAWARA
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Yankuba,
Can we settle for option 3 that is:
> 3. Users can add their names to the list of names to be included with the
> petition letter that I will send by mail.
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I think all those interested should visit the site and add their names to
the list ASAP.
We should also sign Jabou's draft. bytheway can someone tell us more about
that story (i.e. government trying to repatriate fleeing students). Do we
have an official version somewhere?
Are we sending copies of the letter to local papers in the Gambia?
They should be part of the list.
Malanding
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> As you all know I had pull down the online petition form due to some Spam
> mail related issues. The site http://www.gambia.f2s.com is up again but
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Brothers and Sister,
As Yaya Jammeh and his forces of repression intensify their hunt for
the young Gambian students who have so far managed to evade them, and as he
makes a request to Senegal for a repatriation of those who have managed to
flee over the boarder, we all know what his main objective is: "To teach
them a lesson", so that others may be intimidated into total subservience.
His intention is to instil so much fear into the hearts of ordinary people
that no one shall dare stand up for the other. "To just mind their own
business". Yahya Jammeh's intellect is so low that he will never be able to
grasp the simple fact that repression breeds resistance. Wherever there is
action, there is a reaction and this is as true in the social as in the
physical sphere.
Give the fool a long rope and he will hang himself!
You see, when all this started, my main worry, besides the affirmation of my
long held suspicion that Jammeh must be mentally ill, I wondered about the
ability of the Gambian communities abroad to sustain a protracted political
campaign to excise this malignant tumour that has invaded our body politic.
This cancer that is threatening to destroy the social fabric of the most
beautiful country in the whole world.
Was there going to be a loud uproar, relieved gradually by nonchalance? My
thoughts drifted in that vein, until Jammeh came "home".
Now news reaching all of us hanging out here, tell us that Jammeh is bent on
revenge(otherwise why would he solicit their extradition?). Yes, but you are
right in asking revenge for what? Are we not the ones who are supposed to be
vowing revenge? We whose brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, etc have been
murdered in cold blood? No! Not according the perverse mind of His
Excellency Alhadji, Dr..President Yahya A. J. J. Jammeh. His ego is too big
and he is hurt.
He is hurt by being humiliated by the students. He is hurt because the
students have exposed the weaknesses in his security. Those brave students,
armed with only stones, chased his Para-military dogs with their tails
between their legs. He is hurt because they bought his bluff.
They stood up to his instruments of repression and signalled to all and
sundry that we can do it! They literally said to all: "Look here, we are
chasing Jammeh's dogs with only stones as our weapons". He is hurt because
they exposed his lie to the whole world that he is the savoir of the Gambian
masses. They exposed the MURDERER in him to the entire world.
They hurt his pride! Jammeh is a virtual child, believe me. Did you ever
hear him talk? I have a friend whom I exchange Jammeh jokes with. He tells
me now and then, when he's feeling bored he does not have to check out which
channels may be airing comedy programs. He just slots in one of his many
Jammeh video tapes. My favourite used to be when Jammeh (making threats as
always) asked which one, "samba tally" or "mbota", will get crushed if the
two should collide! Of course he is "samba tally" and our people are "mbota"
My good friend, who actually used to be a Jammeh supporter, tells me
sometimes he feels like hiding under the table out of shame even though he
is all alone at home.
Now I am in no doubt any longer. I am positive that Jammeh's day are
numbered. You can start counting. I am so positive now because I can see now
that Jammeh himself is going to be our biggest mobiliser! I say: "Give the
fool a long rope and he shall eventually hang himself".
I think that many years from now when historians assess this period of
Gambian history, many will arrive at the conclusion that Devil
Jammeh was afterall, a blessing in disguise for The Gambia.
For as he hunts our young people across the boarder into Senegal more and
more people are rallying to the cause of freedom. More and more people are
beginning to see the urgent need to excise this cancer from our body
politic.
This Son of Satan who can ask for the recitation of the Holy Qu'ran at home
while at the same time overseeing the hunt for those children whose fallen
comrades he claims to be mourning.
I am afraid that what we have here is what psychologists refer to as a Split
Personality.
A type of man who can commit murder one minute and then turn round and pray
in the next.
A type of man who can steal from poor people whiles at the same time
claiming to be doing a lot for them.
A type of man who can call for peace during daylight whiles creating new
arms caches under cover of darkness.
A type of man who can order the cold-blooded murder of his own people by
phone, stay away as long as he pleases, comes "home", finds them mourning,
"crashes" in on their grief, asks all and sundry to pray together, whiles
personally overseeing the biggest manhunt (since July 1981) for those who
escaped his bullets.
A type of man who can claim to hate skin-bleaching because it is degrading
to us Africans but cannot find any African-African sister worthy of his
Presidential bed.
A type of man who can tell the biggest lie and name Allah his chief witness.
The list goes on...
This is the type of man whom, when fate finally catches up with him, will
breakdown and cry, weep a child. Believe me! Jammeh is clinically ill!
Of all the possible scenarios of catastrophes (human and natural) that can
befall a nation, we have been "unlucky" enough to encounter the worse one.
Our country has been high-jacked by a nut case and similar case histories to
what we have, do give cause for alarm. It is just like in our common saying:
"You wouldn't believe he is crazy until he graps a piece of stick and chases
you".
Now who can be in any doubt? Jammeh Must Go!
Remember Pol Pot? He was "saving" his people according to him. He ended
killing over two million of them. Now human skulls are a tourist attraction
in Cambodia.
Remember Siad Barry? The nut head destroyed his country and when he could
not hold out any longer, he drove a truck to the front of the Central Bank
and drove away all the money!
Remember Jean Bendel Bukassa? He crowned himself king, made the "mistake" of
ordering the murder of children and used to have human liver for breakfast.
Must have some blood ties with Jammeh. And hasn't anyone noticed how his
vice-president resembles an owl? Just take a closer look at the witch.
Remember Master Sgt. Doe. When Johnson finally caught up with him, you
suddenly could not recognise "Strongman" Doe any more. "I say unna forgive
me bo!", "We all na Liberians bo!", "Please my brother, have mercy on me!"
They cut off his ears, then his balls! Are reading this Junkung Jamos?
Tombong, can you get Jammeh that video tape?
I hope our brother Tombong Saidy is reporting to the Gambian people who
finance the running of GRTS that Jammeh's forces of repression are chasing
their sons and daughters who survived the massacre even as Jammeh claims to
be mourning those who didn't. They are chasing them with live ammunition
with intent to shoot to kill!
Who will from now on identify this man with God? I guess only the Imam that
can be bought with gold coins.
One day when one of my friends told me that he had been to the mosque, here
in Oslo, I managed to feign seriousness as I told him that I had to rush to
the hospital's emergency unit at once. When he asked alarmed, if somebody
had been involved in an accident. I said to him the Angels must have broken
some limbs trying to get away when they learned who was coming up the
stairs.
Jokes aside, The Angels of the State House Mosque must be lucky that they
have RVH just close by. If the speed with which The Angels try to get away
from Satanic men is proportional to the amount of sin committed, then those
State House Angels must move faster than any flying saucer. For this is evil
as you've never seen it before.
A peace-loving, God-fearing nation like our deserves much better than
Jammeh. The most common trait among Gambians as a people is our
friendliness. Ask any foreigner who has ever visited the Gambia and even
before you finish they will be telling you about our friendliness.
Gambians enjoy the openness, tolerance an trust that exist in our society
and we value our freedom. If we don't cut Yahya Jammeh short we may lose all
that, for Yahya Jammeh is bent on "dehumanising" us! But give Jammeh a long
rope and the fool shall hang himself.
Jammeh is bent on instilling so much fear in us that when we see injustice
we are going to simply say: "It's doesn't concern me". He may have succeeded
under other circumstances. He may have succeeded if he had not first
ordered the brutal murder of those brave students. Now everybody knows that
"It is indeed their business" We have learned. Jammeh has shown us all the
need to make it our business. Jammeh is our biggest mobiliser! I say: Give
the fool a long rope and he shall pretty soon hang himself!
Jammeh, being the Evil man that he is, has no way of understanding that
there
is so much humanity in Gambians as a people that it would be almost
practically impossible to dehumanise us; especially now when we all know who
the Devil incarnate is, thanks to those valiant students. Jammeh Must Go!
Since Jammeh is chasing precisely school children and since some of them are
already safely (I assume) inside Senegal, I think we need to act very fast.
We need to quickly establish a network on the ground in Senegal and inside
the Gambia. We need such a network to enable us to create supply lines of
both information and financial assistance.
We need such network so that we can interview those students who have
managed to cross the boarder and those still inside (secretly). Such
material on video tape (from the horses own mouth) can be spread to various
Human Rights organisations and can be used at the same time at fundraising
activities, funds that can be used to fight for the release of those
presently in custody and to support their families..
I think by establishing links to the Senegalese student organisations we
will be already laying the foundation stone of a relationship that we are
surely going to need as the struggle to remove the Devil within our midst
continues.
With the level of political consciousness that the Senegalese youth
demonstrated during the recent presidential elections, they wouldn't need
very much cajoling to rally to our cause. If we can establish contact with
people like Dr. Sall, who used to be a member of the list we can raise
some funds to send a couple of members of the list to Dakar to reassure the
students and at the same time seek audiences with relevant officials within
the Wade government to explain our position. Whiles there they can try to
cements the links to the student organisations. "Just afford the fool along
rope..."
I am sure if we all put our heads together, we can come up with something
feasible. And talking about putting heads together, there is no use putting
our minds together when our hearts are divided. In order to get rid of
Jammeh as soon as humanely possible I think we need a very solid front. An
impregnable front. I have been so busy running up and down these past few
days I have not had time to read Halifa's response to Hamjatta.
But until I do that I would like to extend a brotherly hand to Katim in the
meanwhile. Hamadi is right in alluding that the second part of Katim's plan
is the road we may ultimately have to follow.
So Brother Katim, for the memory of our murdered students and the benefit of
our cause, I say from the bottom of my heart that I bear you no ill-will
personally. I hope that as the struggle unfolds we can be able to work
together. But I think we should already now begin to look into the
possibility of prosecuting Jammeh.
Hamadi, I think that if Jammeh intensifies the repression of ordinary
Gambians it would not be far fetched to be allowed regular air time in one
of Senegal's many radio stations. That is a political decision though and
therefore must be approved by government. Jammeh knows the military might of
Senegal and will think twice before venturing (golo ham na...) He'll be the
"mbota" then!
Senegal has only to be reassured that
we are really serious about getting rid of Jammeh. Whatever the outcome we
cannot begin by adapting a defeatist posture. We must explore all avenues.
Where we fail, we gather lessons for the future.
The type of brutality I envisage Jammeh unleashing on Gambians in the future
may play in our favour. So let's all join our hands and our heads together
in our search for the quickest and most humanely way to afford the Butcher
of Kaninlai the longest rope so that he hangs himself for Ever and Ever!
Amen!
Regards.
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In a message dated 4/19/00 11:03:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< How many of you think Tombong is a threat to this List? Isn't he an
informer poking into our plans to get rid of the 'Jammeh Crime Team'
or is he a man of noble deeds >>
George,
I totally agree. Tombong's role here is that of chief snoop ( there are other
informants and we all know them well), manipulator and the errand boy who
tries to pull the wool over our eyes with all the full of holes excuses they
either send him with, or he volunteers to ingratiate himself to the tyrant
whenever they commit one of their many atrocities.
Amadou Kabir njie, your post hit it on the nose, this guy is good at
manipulation, and did he not get his way? This regime exists to trample the
rights of Gambians, and as far as I am concerned, they have given up their
right to be accorded anything they do not give our people.Period.
Jabou Joh
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Well, I see that mafy is following the footsteps of his Idol. First he sends
a post about skin bleaching in the midst of our grief, and now, he is talking
about a Prophet of God. Like Jammeh, first the mockery of pretending he was
innocent of these atrocities, then asking the nation to pray. The nation
prayed, but not because he asked them. Mafy, we understand, you are trying to
reiterate your allegiance to the regime, and it is well noted.
Jabou Joh
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:21:28 -0400
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Mr.Basirou Ndow:
As usual on the G-L, you have called it as you see it, and I respect that. At
this time of mourning of the slain students by a barbaric government, it would
be absolutely UN-becoming to dwell into the politics of the Fourth of July in
Atlanta and the community at large. This is a brief synopsis of the facts, and
after the mourning of our martyrs, the facts and issues will be deliberated
openly on this important democratic forum.
FACT:
WWW.Atlgambians.com is the official website of the Fourth of July
FACT:
July Fourth, a community event should be INCLUSIVE OF all Gambians.
FACT:
July Fourth event or any community organization has to exist to make a
difference at home and in our communities.
FACT:
Using the Fourth of July or any community events to pursue a selfish business
interest will not be tolerated
And, yes Mr.Ndow, sitting down and talking is always the smart and mature thing
to do
Musa Jeng
No Justice, No peace (Paraphrasing Dr.Saine)
saul khan wrote:
> Bass,
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> I'm with you on this totally. Gambians need to stop thinking about their
> pockets (because that's what it's always about,) and start seriously
> thinking about the national interest. The mess we're in is a reflection of
> our individual selfishness.
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> Saul.
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> >What zzupp in Atlanta? Are we gonna have two July 4th celebrations.
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Sister Jabou,
You really do have "eagle eyes". May your tribe increase.
From a secret admirer in Vancouver, Canada.
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Jabou Joh wrote:
> Well, I see that mafy is following the footsteps of his Idol. First he sends
> a post about skin bleaching in the midst of our grief, and now, he is talking
> about a Prophet of God. Like Jammeh, first the mockery of pretending he was
> innocent of these atrocities, then asking the nation to pray. The nation
> prayed, but not because he asked them. Mafy, we understand, you are trying to
> reiterate your allegiance to the regime, and it is well noted.
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> Jabou Joh
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 23:38:32 EDT
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In a message dated 4/19/00 12:34:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Jabou, you mentioned a petition website run by a Mr. N'jai. Could
you please tell me the name of the website to register my name.
Chi Jaama
Joe Sambou >>
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Joe,
The site is as follows. However, according to Yankuba,the petition has been
disabled until we can sort out how best to collect and send the signatures.
He hopes this can be done by Sunday, so just keep checking it.Once it is up,
you just need to go there and add your signature to the petition.
http://www.gambia.f2s.com
Cheers,
Jabou
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Hi folks,
First, I would appeal to all and sundry to take some time and read =
Momodou Sidibeh's 2-part posting entirely, and carefully. May I, before =
going further, express my sincere gratitude to him for his brilliant, =
and well-thoughout contribution to the ongoing exchange of ideas about =
recent events in The Gambia, and what to do next. I have certainly =
found his historical analysis timely, and educative, and I hope those of =
you who are more versed in the history of Gambian politics follow =
Momodou's example, and take us all back to school.
I would also like to touch on a number of issues Momodou has raised, as =
well as his suggestion for the creation of a non-partisan Gambian =
organization. Mr. Sidibeh has lamented the Gambian not to =
follow-through on important issues, and backed his claims with a number =
of examples. Without a doubt we, are all guilty of most, if not all the =
charges levelled at us by Momodou, and I guess the best way to repent is =
to make sure that we all work sincerely toward mending our ways. =
Speaking for myself, I will confirm that Mr. Sidibeh did indeed write to =
me a while back, asking me about what happened to Dr. Saine's proposal =
to have process of reconciliation and national healing. I recall =
telling him frankly that I did not know much about what became of it, =
and admitted dropping the ball. Or words to that effect.
At any rate, it was in the aftermath of the tragic events of April 10 =
and 11 that I called Dr. Saine, and did ask him about what progress =
there was on that front. He told me that he had not received any =
official response, and if anything, there was a reconciliation =
conference that was organized without any invitation being extended to =
him. It of course takes two to tango, and it becomes incredibly =
difficult, if not impossible, to have a dialog if the other side doesn't =
want to talk. This by no means implies that the blame for the failure =
of the Dr. Saine's calls for national reconciliation to be heeded =
belongs to one side only. Rather, I would suggest that we all should =
learn from our mistakes, and redouble our efforts to taking some =
concrete steps to getting things done.
I would also like to say that Mr. Sidibeh's suggestion for a =
non-partisan Gambian organization comes at a time when we have infact =
been talking about setting up an umbrella organization to work toward =
building and safe-guarding democracy in The Gambia. As it happens, it =
was only last night (Tues., April 18) that I called Karamba Touray, and =
Latjor Ndow about getting such an organization off the ground. I also =
tried calling Dr. Amadou Janneh about the freegambia.org Web site, but I =
could not get hold of him. It is my intention to contact as many people =
as possible, with a view toward getting a core group that will commit to =
the idea of an umbrella organization, that will be willing to work with =
each other and existing organizations, in order that we can have an =
entity that will not require us to re-invent the wheel, and will make =
maximum use of the ideas of as many people as possible, and finally does =
not do so at the expense of getting things done.
In my previous posting on the issue of setting up an umbrella =
organization, I asked for contact information about different =
organizations that currently exist in different parts of the world, and =
are working on various issues of concern to Gambians, and people =
interested in Gambian issues. From what I've been able to gather so =
far, it seems to me tthat while there a number of organizations the =
world over, many of them are more geared toward welfare, and local =
issues that the develpment and strengthening of democracy in The Gambia. =
However, in my conversation with Latjor Ndow last night, I also had the =
impression that their organization, "The Gambian Leadership Conference =
(GLC)" might well serve as a nucleus for an umbrella organization that =
can have branches in different parts of the world, and aimed at =
coordinating efforts at fostering democracy in The Gambia. Toward this =
end, Latjor told me he'll send me their articles of incorporation and =
related documents so that we begin to discuss how best to modify the GLC =
to better serve the purpose envisaged in our idea of an umbrella =
organization. Be sure that we will be bringing the issue forward to the =
list, and make sure that everyone has an opportunity to contribute to =
the realization of an organization that's functional and effective.
Speaking of effectiveness, I also mentioned the issue of the =
freegambia.org Web site. As you know, there presently are a number of =
brilliant efforts to provide people with Internet tools to enable them =
coordinate their responses to the recent tragedies back home, and =
develop effective strategies for responding to the government's actions =
- or lack thereof. However, I sense that we still can do a better job =
of coordinating things, especially in light of the frequent exchanges of =
e-mail about the dates and locations of demonstrations. Thus, I think we =
could use a central calendar that will list events and activities of =
Gambian communities and organizations around the world. People who were =
responsible for these events would be allowed to manage their own =
calendars, but they will all be accessible from one page. This way, it =
will be a lot easier to coordinate things, and also ensure that we all =
are on the same page; figuratively and literally.
I have been tinkering with different calendar services out there from =
Yahoo! (http://www.yahoo.com) to Hotdiary (http://www.hotdiary.com) =
They all have their advantages and disadvantages, and in the end, the =
adage, "you get what you pay for" is true here too. While they are all =
free, they also in one way or the other require some registration, etc., =
etc. for their calendars to be really useful. The other alternative is =
to setup our own, and I have been thinking of putting one up, either on =
my server, or on the freegambia.org site donated by Dr. Amadou Janneh. =
I need to work somethings out with Dr. Janneh, and see what will be the =
best way to go.
Also, I should mention that I am planning to contact those who have =
offered to help, as well as those that already have their own on-going =
efforts in this regard. In particular, both George Sarr (of Gambians =
Online), Pope Pope(?), Alpha Robinson, and others have all been stirring =
things in their corners of the world, and I intend to work toward all of =
us working together. Whether we have each of these sites providing a =
specialized service (e.g. calendars, online chat, forums, etc) or all of =
us work on different areas on one site will depend on a number of =
issues. However, the end result will be something that's user-friendly, =
and functional.
I guess I'll have to stop here for now. Please keep the ideas coming, =
it's the flow these great thoughts that keeps us all going in these =
rough times. And by the way, PLEASE refrain from insulting people, and =
using foul language on the list. I have seen postings here that are =
really disgusting, and serve no purpose other than paint a terrible =
picture of people who send them in. Remember, our postings are =
archived, and publicly accessible, and for this reason, I would =
encourage you all to use language that you would be proud to stand by =
and not, in the future, have to regret saying.
That's really is about it, and I'm outa here. Best wishes in your =
endeavors.
Katim
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Political parties in Gambia since independence have been able to =
mobilise support especially during election years. But they command =
loyalty not as a result principally of ideological commitment but rather =
that of ethnic solidarity, patron-client relationships and personal =
loyalty. Their internal organisation is largely undemocratic and where =
any form of administration exists, it is generally weak and ineffective. =
Liberal democracy and socialism, both based on systemic ideologies =
expressing particular social values have no real roots in Gambia. There =
is no real bourgeiosie to champion the cause of liberalism and =
democratic constitutionalism. Yet class consciousness is also so weak as =
to make the identification of class enemies difficult. This is =
especially so in the country-side where exploitation occurs not in =
production but in exchange. There is simply no class of land-owners =
comparable to anything obtaining in say, Zimbabwe and many =
Latin-American countries. The trade unions are weak and divided and the =
workers' movement, unlike in Senegal, seems to have condemned itself =
from expressing political concerns. =20
Whatever constitutes the left in Gambian politics has remained tiny, =
ineffectual and hopelessly divided since the demise of Black Brotherhood =
and the Kwame Nkrumah Memorial Foundation of the late 60s. The latter =
collapsed under recriminations of treachery within its leadership, =
elements of which, while still operating from different platforms, only =
remember one another with caustic bitterness. Some were to resurface in =
PDOIS in the mid eighties, while others had already reappeared on the =
scene in MOJA in 1979, calling for the revolutionary overthrow of the =
Jawara regime. Yet other members of the Foundation simply became running =
bureaucrats of the Jawara regime, even as many others opted for exile in =
the United States.=20
While PDOIS has remained active since 1985/86, MOJA has remained =
paralysed as a result of internal differences that emerged following =
Jawara's lifting of the ban in November 1992. These differences were =
still unresolved when in July 1994 the Jawara regime was overthrown. =
Needless to say, many of the members simply joined the Jammeh bandwagon, =
eventhough their organisation rejected coups as an alternative method of =
bringing about progressive social change. Added to the reasons I gave =
earlier for the failure of the coup makers in delivering on their =
promises, is the fact that soldiers have a tendency to substitute =
themselves for the working class.=20
In societies where economic chaos, uncertainty and political =
disintegration threaten, the military usually ceases power not just =
because it believes itself to have the preponderance of armed force on =
its side. But largely because it always happens to be the best organised =
section of the population. Its regimen of discipline, robust chain of =
command, and tested professionalism ensures that it always posseses the =
organisational readiness to cease power and exercise it effectively. So =
in African countries where societal progress has not involved a strong =
tradition of orgnisation-building across ethnic and class lines and =
where traditional clan-based organisations failed to be conduits for =
political mobilisation, the emergence of a power vacuum itself is =
tantamount to an invitation to soldiers to cease power. =20
THE CASE FOR A =
NON-PARTISAN ORGANZATION
Eventhough the 1996/97 elections ushered in civilian rule, the Jammeh =
regime is quasi-military in character. The July 22 Movement, as Kabir =
Njie wrote, was to be a reproduction of Gadaffi's September 1 Movement. =
But Gambia, unlike Libya, is also a multi-party constitutional =
democracy, that elects a National Assembly comprising of representatives =
that the people "freely" elect. In short, oppositional politics is a =
fact of Gambian political life, and the APRC government can only be as =
legitimate as the degree of public consent its rule commands. But in a =
harsh economic climate, the killing and disappearance of Gambians amidst =
suspicions of cover-ups, permanent instability, and the heavy presence =
of the security forces in the daily lives of Gambians, widespread public =
resentments were simply forced underground. The regime's waning =
popularity meant it can obtain legitimacy only through coercion and =
patronage. The July 22 Movement was an instrument for such coercion. =
Jammeh himself bought instrumental allegiance by sending planeloads of =
influential people to the Hajj, in combination with an unpresidential =
display of largess.
With all these factors in mind, it appears to me that the only way for =
Gambians to break this cycle of abuse, to create a counter force against =
the adventurists designs of other coup plotters, to put an end to the =
vagaries of endemic corruption, to give hope to the marginalised and =
give voice to the voiceless, to define concrete social values worth =
dying for, a non-partisan organisation of Gambians is necessary. =
Non-partisan because this kind of organisation should not pay allegiance =
to any kind of "mansa-president". It should remain independent while =
making a critique of power minding only what it deems stands in the =
best interests of the nation at all times, inventing traditions and =
proferring a progressive cultural outlook. Because political parties =
cannot guarantee the freedom of Gambians whether or not they are in =
power, it will be the work of this organisation to see to it that =
dialogue with those in power is established and maintained at all times, =
criticising when necessary, and praising where praise is due.=20
However, given our poor capacities to put words into action, such an =
organisation is best helped if it starts with a minimum program that =
immediately appeals to all Gambians. I have in mind the struggle for =
basic human rights. It is only when the government in power respects and =
works to observe the democratic rights of citizens, that a climate =
conducive to making steady progress in the economic and social =
well-being of the people becomes possible. Human Rights are just that =
basic.
Well, how ready are we?=20
Here is a brief look at betrayed commitments:
ONE:
In early1995, about six months after the coup a group of Gambian =
intellectuals (let us not be scared of this word) based in the US =
(almost all of them Ph.D holders), made a pledge that they would from =
then on participate in national development. They wrote that they =
regretted their conspicous disengagement with Gambian issues during =
Jawara's reign. I am sure many of you may remember that apology. What =
they have done since then, I have no idea. The nation is now calling on =
them and all of us to listen to the grievances, concerns, and fears of =
the common people, articulate these concerns and transforming them into =
concrete action, imploring those in power to act accordingly. That =
should be the fumdamental role of intellectuals in any society.=20
TWO:
A year or so ago, a Gambian lady by the name of Mam Betty Jallow who =
worked at the embassy in Washington D.C was dismissed from her work =
under circumstances which appeared to many on this list to be without =
merit. The issue over whether or not her dismissal was warranted =
generated a harsh and heated debate during which invectives were traded =
for a couple of weeks. It was finally accepted that those who wanted to =
pursue Mam Betty's case with an intention to accord her some possible =
redress, pending that the termination of her services was unwarranted, =
should privately proceed and consult with the relevant Gambian =
authorities. It turned out that inspite of all the noise made in her =
favour, only two people linked up privately to attempt to consult with =
the SOS for External Affairs, Dr. Sedat Jobe.
THREE:
I think it began with a Top Ten from Mafy Jarjue, and then a second =
Top Ten from Ndey Jobarteh (aka The Struggle Continues). The former, =
extremely supportive of the Gambia government depicted everything in =
Gambia as just about excellent. As for the second Top Ten list =
everything in Gambia was just as bad, and getting worse. In between the =
two extremes, a huge gulf emerge in which Satan lived. Coupled with =
another hot Matarr Njie issue, Gambia-Lers knocked at each other =
mercilessly. No insults in our streetwise vocabularly were spared during =
the war of words. It went on until everybody got very sick. A herbal =
potion was invented and we called it National Reconciliation. =
Suggestions as to what could be done towards that end came in abundance, =
some from Katim, others from Alpha and many others. Abdoulie Saine's =
article was approved for distribution to the President and the press, =
calling for the setting up of a National Reconciliation Committee. I =
later privately enquired from Dr. Saine, Dr. Touray and Alpha Robinson =
on feedback on the suggestions. Except for the publication of an =
abridged version of Saine's article in New African, little else seems to =
have resulted from the high sounding proposals.
FOUR:
At about the same time, I enquired from Jabou Joh and Awa Sey on the =
state of health of the GESO (the Gambia Educational Support =
organization), an organization as politically neutral as any can be. Its =
basic aim is to help Gambian students in need of assistance and to also =
send educational materials (books, computers, etc) to needy schools. At =
the time I made my enquiry there were about 600 registered subscribers =
on Gambia-L. In its two-year existence, GESO membership was a pitiful =
32!! - just 5% of the number of subscribers. So little is the practical =
consequences of so much patriotic cant.
I have been narrating these concrete experiences because I fear that =
we might make committments we may not be able to fulfil; and that would =
be tantamount to defiling the memories of all the victims of the April =
2000 massacre. Ideas as to what is to be done may emerge from =
cyberspace. But action to unseat President Yahya Jammeh must of =
necessity be carried out in the streets in Gambia, even long after he =
is gone. This will be so because there is nothing that says that the =
next President will be any better. Did we not all celebrate when Fafa =
finally fell?
We have a serious cultural problem, and we all know it. We cannot just =
burst into our history like a bunch of miffed periscope-eyed crustaceans =
that dart in and out of their holes as if to mock your human presence on =
their beach. For far too long Gambians (and most Africans for that =
matter) have remained by-standers watching their future being stolen by =
lunatics who would just as readily subject moral ideas into service for =
their private passions. Gambians in Sweden would not get organised until =
the police threaten them with permanent humiliation. As if they suffer =
from some form of collective amnesia that temporarily makes them forget =
they are black people! All of us will not do a thing until when after =
the blood of students set the wheels of change in motion. What right do =
we have for not decisively intervening in our own history? Is it not our =
own failure that allows others to draw the agenda for our lives, =
ironically now that we are experts in both how this world and the next =
are managed? We seem to think that it is okay to engage with our =
reality only seasonally, as if we are all a frenzied bunch of peanut =
farmers. If we want lasting change, then we have to change ourselves. =
Now.
There is a need for some kind of ideological commitment ; a commitment =
that is regenerative, that inspires, and that is fulfilling. I see no =
other alternative to the need to get organized. For the sake of our =
common weal.
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(This is not the first time I am putting forward the case for a =
national, non-partisan organisation on this list. I now see no reason =
why it should not be the last).
Before you go to bed tonight, think of this: There are nearly half a =
million Eritreans living outside their homeland. Their exodus has been =
occasioned by the 30-year war for Independence. They have a very strong =
sense of nationalism. Everyone of them earning a salary or living on =
welfare is obliged to pay 2% of their income directly to their =
government. This money goes to pay a large percentage of the salaries of =
public employees. They want to be economically independent and incur as =
little debt as possible from international lending institutions.=20
The point I want to make here is that the Eritreans have looked into =
their reality and that of the world, and invented a fitting tradition =
for themselves. There is no reason in the world why we cannot invent one =
for ourselves.
"nJaaraama"!
Momodou S Sidibeh
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First, I would appeal to all and sundry =
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carefully. May I, before going further, express my sincere =
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of ideas about recent events in The Gambia, and what to do next. I =
have=20
certainly found his historical analysis timely, and educative, and I =
hope those=20
of you who are more versed in the history of Gambian politics follow =
Momodou's=20
example, and take us all back to school.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would also like to touch on a number =
of issues=20
Momodou has raised, as well as his suggestion for the creation of a =
non-partisan=20
Gambian organization. Mr. Sidibeh has lamented the Gambian not to=20
follow-through on important issues, and backed his claims with a number =
of=20
examples. Without a doubt we, are all guilty of most, if not all =
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charges levelled at us by Momodou, and I guess the best way to repent is =
to make=20
sure that we all work sincerely toward mending our ways. Speaking =
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myself, I will confirm that Mr. Sidibeh did indeed write to me a while =
back,=20
asking me about what happened to Dr. Saine's proposal to have process of =
reconciliation and national healing. I recall telling him frankly =
that I=20
did not know much about what became of it, and admitted dropping the =
ball. =20
Or words to that effect.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At any rate, it was in the aftermath of =
the tragic=20
events of April 10 and 11 that I called Dr. Saine, and did ask him about =
what=20
progress there was on that front. He told me that he had not =
received any=20
official response, and if anything, there was a reconciliation =
conference that=20
was organized without any invitation being extended to him. It of =
course=20
takes two to tango, and it becomes incredibly difficult, if not =
impossible, to=20
have a dialog if the other side doesn't want to talk. This by no =
means=20
implies that the blame for the failure of the Dr. Saine's calls for =
national=20
reconciliation to be heeded belongs to one side only. Rather, I =
would=20
suggest that we all should learn from our mistakes, and redouble our =
efforts to=20
taking some concrete steps to getting things done.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would also like to say that Mr. =
Sidibeh's=20
suggestion for a non-partisan Gambian organization comes at a time when =
we have=20
infact been talking about setting up an umbrella organization to work =
toward=20
building and safe-guarding democracy in The Gambia. As it happens, =
it was=20
only last night (Tues., April 18) that I called Karamba Touray, and =
Latjor Ndow=20
about getting such an organization off the ground. I also tried =
calling=20
Dr. Amadou Janneh about the freegambia.org Web site, but I could not get =
hold of=20
him. It is my intention to contact as many people as possible, =
with a view=20
toward getting a core group that will commit to the idea of an umbrella=20
organization, that will be willing to work with each other and existing=20
organizations, in order that we can have an entity that will not require =
us to=20
re-invent the wheel, and will make maximum use of the ideas of as many =
people as=20
possible, and finally does not do so at the expense of getting things=20
done.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In my previous posting on the issue of =
setting up=20
an umbrella organization, I asked for contact information about =
different=20
organizations that currently exist in different parts of the world, and =
are=20
working on various issues of concern to Gambians, and people interested =
in=20
Gambian issues. From what I've been able to gather so far, it =
seems to me=20
tthat while there a number of organizations the world over, many of them =
are=20
more geared toward welfare, and local issues that the develpment and=20
strengthening of democracy in The Gambia. However, in my =
conversation with=20
Latjor Ndow last night, I also had the impression that their =
organization, "The=20
Gambian Leadership Conference (GLC)" might well serve as a nucleus for =
an=20
umbrella organization that can have branches in different parts of the =
world,=20
and aimed at coordinating efforts at fostering democracy in The =
Gambia. =20
Toward this end, Latjor told me he'll send me their articles of =
incorporation=20
and related documents so that we begin to discuss how best to modify the =
GLC to=20
better serve the purpose envisaged in our idea of an umbrella=20
organization. Be sure that we will be bringing the issue forward =
to the=20
list, and make sure that everyone has an opportunity to contribute to =
the=20
realization of an organization that's functional and =
effective.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Speaking of effectiveness, I also =
mentioned the=20
issue of the freegambia.org Web site. As you know, there presently =
are a=20
number of brilliant efforts to provide people with Internet tools to =
enable them=20
coordinate their responses to the recent tragedies back home, and =
develop=20
effective strategies for responding to the government's actions - or =
lack=20
thereof. However, I sense that we still can do a better job of=20
coordinating things, especially in light of the frequent exchanges of =
e-mail=20
about the dates and locations of demonstrations. Thus, I think we could =
use a=20
central calendar that will list events and activities of Gambian =
communities and=20
organizations around the world. People who were responsible for =
these=20
events would be allowed to manage their own calendars, but they will all =
be=20
accessible from one page. This way, it will be a lot easier to =
coordinate=20
things, and also ensure that we all are on the same page; figuratively =
and=20
literally.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been tinkering with different =
calendar=20
services out there from Yahoo! (<A=20
href=3D"http://www.yahoo.com">http://www.yahoo.com</A>) to Hotdiary (<A=20
href=3D"http://www.hotdiary.com">http://www.hotdiary.com</A>) They =
all have=20
their advantages and disadvantages, and in the end, the adage, "you get =
what you=20
pay for" is true here too. While they are all free, they also in =
one way=20
or the other require some registration, etc., etc. for their calendars =
to be=20
really useful. The other alternative is to setup our own, and I =
have been=20
thinking of putting one up, either on my server, or on the =
freegambia.org site=20
donated by Dr. Amadou Janneh. I need to work somethings out with =
Dr.=20
Janneh, and see what will be the best way to go.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also, I should mention that I am =
planning to=20
contact those who have offered to help, as well as those that already =
have their=20
own on-going efforts in this regard. In particular, both George =
Sarr (of=20
Gambians Online), Pope Pope(?), Alpha Robinson, and others have all been =
stirring things in their corners of the world, and I intend to work =
toward all=20
of us working together. Whether we have each of these sites =
providing a=20
specialized service (e.g. calendars, online chat, forums, etc) or all of =
us work=20
on different areas on one site will depend on a number of issues. =
However,=20
the end result will be something that's user-friendly, and=20
functional.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess I'll have to stop here for =
now. =20
Please keep the ideas coming, it's the flow these great thoughts that =
keeps us=20
all going in these rough times. And by the way, PLEASE refrain =
from=20
insulting people, and using foul language on the list. I have seen =
postings here that are really disgusting, and serve no purpose other =
than paint=20
a terrible picture of people who send them in. Remember, our =
postings are=20
archived, and publicly accessible, and for this reason, I would =
encourage you=20
all to use language that you would be proud to stand by and not, in the =
future,=20
have to regret saying.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's really is about it, and I'm outa =
here. =20
Best wishes in your endeavors.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Katim</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
[log in to unmask]>MSSidibeh</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
=
[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 19, 2000 =
6:03=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> UNDERSTANDING THE =
APRIL MASSACRE=20
(2)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Political parties in Gambia since independence have been able to =
mobilise=20
support especially during election years. But they command loyalty not =
as a=20
result principally of ideological commitment but rather that of ethnic =
solidarity, patron-client relationships and personal loyalty. =
Their=20
internal organisation is largely undemocratic and where any form of=20
administration exists, it is generally weak and ineffective. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Liberal democracy and socialism, both based on systemic =
ideologies=20
expressing particular social values have no real roots in Gambia. =
There is no=20
real bourgeiosie to champion the cause of liberalism and democratic=20
constitutionalism. Yet class consciousness is also so weak as to =
make =20
the identification of class enemies difficult. This is especially so =
in the=20
country-side where exploitation occurs not in production but in=20
exchange. There is simply no class of land-owners =
comparable to=20
anything obtaining in say, Zimbabwe and many Latin-American countries. =
The=20
trade unions are weak and divided and the workers' movement, unlike in =
Senegal, seems to have condemned itself from expressing =
political=20
concerns. </DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Whatever constitutes the left in Gambian politics has remained=20
tiny, ineffectual and hopelessly divided since the demise of =
Black=20
Brotherhood and the Kwame Nkrumah Memorial Foundation of the late 60s. =
The=20
latter collapsed under recriminations of treachery within its=20
leadership, elements of which, while still operating from different =
platforms,=20
only remember one another with caustic bitterness. Some were to =
resurface in=20
PDOIS in the mid eighties, while others had already reappeared on the =
scene in=20
MOJA in 1979, calling for the revolutionary overthrow of the Jawara =
regime.=20
Yet other members of the Foundation simply became running bureaucrats =
of the=20
Jawara regime, even as many others opted for exile in the United =
States.=20
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>While PDOIS has remained active since 1985/86, MOJA has remained=20
paralysed as a result of internal differences that emerged following =
Jawara's=20
lifting of the ban in November 1992. These differences were =
still=20
unresolved when in July 1994 the Jawara regime was overthrown. =
Needless to=20
say, many of the members simply joined the Jammeh bandwagon, =
eventhough their=20
organisation rejected coups as an alternative method of bringing =
about=20
progressive social change. Added to the reasons I gave =
earlier for=20
the failure of the coup makers in delivering on their promises, is=20
the fact that soldiers have a tendency to substitute themselves =
for the=20
working class. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT =
size=3D2> </FONT>In=20
societies where economic chaos, uncertainty and political =
disintegration=20
threaten, the military usually ceases power not just because it =
believes=20
itself to have the preponderance of armed force on its side. But =
largely=20
because it always happens to be the best organised section of the =
population.=20
Its regimen of discipline, robust chain of command, and tested =
professionalism=20
ensures that it always posseses the organisational =
readiness=20
to cease power and exercise it effectively. So in African =
countries where=20
societal progress has not involved a strong tradition of =
orgnisation-building=20
across ethnic and class lines and where traditional clan-based =
organisations=20
failed to be conduits for political mobilisation, the emergence =
of a=20
power vacuum itself is tantamount to an invitation to soldiers to =
cease=20
power. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs=
p;  =
; =
=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D3>THE CASE FOR A NON-PARTISAN =
ORGANZATION</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Eventhough the 1996/97 elections ushered in civilian rule, =
the=20
Jammeh regime is quasi-military in character. The July 22=20
Movement, as Kabir Njie wrote, was to be a reproduction of =
Gadaffi's =20
September 1 Movement. But Gambia, unlike Libya, is also a multi-party=20
constitutional democracy, that elects a National Assembly comprising =
of=20
representatives that the people "freely" elect. In short, oppositional =
politics is a fact of Gambian political life, and the APRC government =
can only=20
be as legitimate as the degree of public consent its rule =
commands. But=20
in a harsh economic climate, the killing and disappearance of Gambians =
amidst=20
suspicions of cover-ups, permanent instability, and the heavy presence =
of the=20
security forces in the daily lives of Gambians, widespread public =
resentments=20
were simply forced underground. The regime's waning popularity =
meant it=20
can obtain legitimacy only through coercion and patronage. The July 22 =
Movement was an instrument for such coercion. Jammeh himself =
bought=20
instrumental allegiance by sending planeloads of influential people to =
the=20
Hajj, in combination with an unpresidential display of largess.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>With all these factors in mind, it appears to me that the only =
way for=20
Gambians to break this cycle of abuse, to create a counter force =
against the=20
adventurists designs of other coup plotters, to put an end to the =
vagaries of=20
endemic corruption, to give hope to the marginalised and =
give voice=20
to the voiceless, to define concrete social values worth dying for, a=20
non-partisan organisation of Gambians is necessary. Non-partisan =
because this=20
kind of organisation should not pay allegiance to any kind of=20
"mansa-president". It should remain independent while making a =
critique=20
of power minding only what it deems stands in the best interests of =
the nation=20
at all times, inventing traditions and proferring a progressive =
cultural=20
outlook. Because political parties cannot guarantee the freedom of =
Gambians=20
whether or not they are in power, it will be the work of this =
organisation to=20
see to it that dialogue with those in power is established and =
maintained at=20
all times, criticising when necessary, and praising where praise is=20
due. </DIV>
<DIV>However, given our poor capacities to put words into action, =
such=20
an organisation is best helped if it starts with a minimum =
program=20
that immediately appeals to all Gambians. I have in mind the struggle =
for=20
basic human rights. It is only when the government in power respects =
and works=20
to observe the democratic rights of citizens, that a climate conducive =
to=20
making steady progress in the economic and social well-being of the =
people=20
becomes possible. Human Rights are just that basic.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Well, how ready are we? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Here is a brief look at betrayed commitments:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>ONE:</DIV>
<DIV>In early1995, about six months after the coup a group of Gambian=20
intellectuals (let us not be scared of this word) based in the US =
(almost all=20
of them Ph.D holders), made a pledge that they would from then on =
participate=20
in national development. They wrote that they regretted their=20
conspicous disengagement with Gambian issues during Jawara's =
reign. I am=20
sure many of you may remember that apology. What they have done =
since=20
then, I have no idea. The nation is now calling on them and all of us =
to=20
listen to the grievances, concerns, and fears of the common people, =
articulate=20
these concerns and transforming them into concrete action, imploring =
those in=20
power to act accordingly. That should be the fumdamental role of =
intellectuals=20
in any society. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>TWO:</DIV>
<DIV>A year or so ago, a Gambian lady by the name of Mam Betty Jallow =
who=20
worked at the embassy in Washington D.C was dismissed from her work =
under=20
circumstances which appeared to many on this list to be without merit. =
The=20
issue over whether or not her dismissal was warranted generated a =
harsh and=20
heated debate during which invectives were traded for a couple of=20
weeks. It was finally accepted that those who wanted to pursue =
Mam=20
Betty's case with an intention to accord her some possible =
redress,=20
pending that the termination of her services was unwarranted, should =
privately=20
proceed and consult with the relevant Gambian authorities. It turned =
out that=20
inspite of all the noise made in her favour, only two people linked up =
privately to attempt to consult with the SOS for External =
Affairs, Dr.=20
Sedat Jobe.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>THREE:</DIV>
<DIV>I think it began with a Top Ten from Mafy Jarjue, and then a =
second Top=20
Ten from Ndey Jobarteh (aka The Struggle Continues). The former, =
extremely=20
supportive of the Gambia government depicted everything in Gambia as =
just=20
about excellent. As for the second Top Ten list everything in Gambia =
was just=20
as bad, and getting worse. In between the two extremes, a huge gulf =
emerge in=20
which Satan lived. Coupled with another hot Matarr Njie issue, =
Gambia-Lers=20
knocked at each other mercilessly. No insults in our streetwise =
vocabularly=20
were spared during the war of words. It went on until everybody got =
very sick.=20
A herbal potion was invented and we called it National Reconciliation. =
Suggestions as to what could be done towards that end came in =
abundance, some=20
from Katim, others from Alpha and many others. Abdoulie Saine's =
article was=20
approved for distribution to the President and the press, calling for =
the=20
setting up of a National Reconciliation Committee. I later =
privately enquired from Dr. Saine, Dr. Touray and Alpha Robinson =
on=20
feedback on the suggestions. Except for the publication of an abridged =
version=20
of Saine's article in New African, little else seems to have resulted =
from the=20
high sounding proposals.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>FOUR:</DIV>
<DIV>At about the same time, I enquired from Jabou Joh and Awa Sey on =
the=20
state of health of the GESO (the Gambia Educational Support =
organization), an=20
organization as politically neutral as any can be. Its basic aim is to =
help=20
Gambian students in need of assistance and to also send educational =
materials=20
(books, computers, etc) to needy schools. At the time I made my =
enquiry there=20
were about 600 registered subscribers on Gambia-L. In its two-year =
existence,=20
GESO membership was a pitiful 32!! - just 5% of the number of=20
subscribers.<FONT size=3D2> </FONT>So little is the practical =
consequences=20
of so much patriotic cant.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have been narrating these concrete experiences because I fear=20
that we might make committments we may not be able to fulfil; and =
that=20
would be tantamount to defiling the memories of all the victims =
of the=20
April 2000 massacre. Ideas as to what is to be done may emerge =
from=20
cyberspace. But action to unseat President Yahya Jammeh must =
of=20
necessity be carried out in the streets in Gambia, even =
long =20
after he is gone. This will be so because there is nothing that says =
that the=20
next President will be any better. Did we not all celebrate when Fafa =
finally=20
fell?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We have a serious cultural problem, and we all know it. We cannot =
just burst into our history like a bunch of miffed =
periscope-eyed=20
crustaceans that dart in and out of their holes as if to mock your =
human=20
presence on their beach. For far too long Gambians (and most =
Africans=20
for that matter) have remained by-standers watching their future being =
stolen=20
by lunatics who would just as readily subject moral ideas into service =
for=20
their private passions. Gambians in Sweden would not get organised =
until the=20
police threaten them with permanent humiliation. As if they suffer =
from some=20
form of collective amnesia that temporarily makes them forget =
they are=20
black people! All of us will not do a thing until when after the blood =
of=20
students set the wheels of change in motion. What right do we =
have for=20
not decisively intervening in our own history? Is it not our own =
failure=20
that allows others to draw the agenda for our lives, ironically =
now that=20
we are experts in both how this world and the next are =
managed? We=20
seem to think that it is okay to engage with our reality only =
seasonally, as=20
if we are all a frenzied bunch of peanut farmers. If we want =
lasting=20
change, then we have to change ourselves. Now.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>There is a need for some kind of ideological commitment ; a =
commitment=20
that is regenerative, that inspires, and that is fulfilling. I see no =
other=20
alternative to the need to get organized. For the sake of our common=20
weal.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT =
size=3D2>=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=
=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(</FONT><FONT size=3D3>This is not the first time =
I am putting=20
forward the case for a national, non-partisan organisation on this =
list. I now=20
see no reason why it should not be the last).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Before you go to bed tonight, think of this: There are nearly =
half a=20
million Eritreans living outside their homeland. Their exodus has been =
occasioned by the 30-year war for Independence. They have a very =
strong sense=20
of nationalism. Everyone of them earning a salary or living on welfare =
is=20
obliged to pay 2% of their income directly to their government. This =
money=20
goes to pay a large percentage of the salaries of public employees. =
They want=20
to be economically independent and incur as little debt as possible =
from=20
international lending institutions. </DIV>
<DIV>The point I want to make here is that the Eritreans have looked =
into=20
their reality and that of the world, and invented a fitting tradition =
for=20
themselves. There is no reason in the world why we cannot invent one =
for=20
ourselves.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"nJaaraama"!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Momodou S Sidibeh</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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Ebrima,
On the contrary, I think the information sent should be posted with the
signature that the sender gave. if they did not want that, they would not
have affixed it there.Keep up the good work.
Jabou
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<< Ebrima, you wrote:
>>
>>Signed: "An honest Permanent Secretary".
>>
There are only a handful of Perm. Secs. To avoid a witch hunt, perhaps it
would be better to just post comments from your sources without being to
overt about it. People can formulate their own opinions on their viewpoints
based on their merits. This way they are not inadvertently sacrificed. I
understand you are trying to give legitimacy of your sources, but at this
point, perhaps this journalistic instinct ought to be surpressed a bit.
Latjor >>
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<< Jabou:
That was an excellent thought ...as parents we know how it feels losing a
child....I have the email address of the Gambia desk at the State department
and I will foward it to the list tomorrow..
Fatou >>
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Thanks Fatou.
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The African Liberation Day (ALD) Committee is working feverishly to make
this year's activities a memorable one. The complete program will be posted
shortly, however just to update interested parties, here is where we stand.
1. The events will begin on Friday, May 26 and end on Sunday, May 28.
2. The contribution fee is $30 for DC/MD/VA residents and FREE for
out-of-staters.
3. The tentative Program is as follows:
Cultural Evening
Gala Night
Soccer Tournament
Rounders
Basketball Tournament
Picnic
Conference
The committee noted that in previous years, there has been a low turn out
at the Conferences scheduled, and determined to make a deliberate effort to
change this. Following extensive discussions, the Committee decided that the
best way to make the Conference well attended is to transfer the event from
Howard University's campus to the PARK. It will be scheduled on Sunday,
during the Picnic. More details will be coming shortly.
There will be a public meeting this sunday, April 23, at the Soccer Field on
Layhill at 4:00 PM. We hope residents in the area will be able to attend.
Committee Members:
Louis Thorpe, Star Sanyang, Jorgormai Ceesay, Binta Nyang,Adi Fofana,
Ismaila Touray, James Gomez Jr., Mustapha Minteh, Latjor Ndow, Tijan Ceesay,
Astu Senghore, Sheikh Jallow, Charles Samba, John Prom, Sang Secka, St.
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G,
It is always of paramount importance for one to understand and remember what
he or she preaches. Tombong is like any other individual on the List. One may
not like what he writes, but that does not warrant him being unsubscribed
from the List. He argues his points, but does not violate any rules or
regulations governing the list. Above all, anytime something happens that is
of public concern, there is always someone out here who will ask for his
opinion. He does not have to write to please anyone or any group of people,
but express his thoughts. Freedom of Speech is a fundamental human right.
Asking for his removal from the List is just tantamount to AFPRC/APRC
demanding for the closure of Radio 1, FM. because they do not like what they
air.
It will be insane to teach principles of democracy and practice
authoritarianism. Unless such attitudes are changed, we as a people will
never be better off. Because we will continue to make the same mistakes that
hinder us from socioeconomic and political progress.
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I salute you Mr sidibeh for the wonderful piece you wrote.It happens that
you have been keeping notes of event understook in this forum moreover,
the grassroot of the political activities in our motherland.It will be
however, impossible to remedy problems with a knowledge of it's root. So
brother you are one of a kind.I think we can take some sense from
Sidibeh's analysis to start real thinking of situation and how to make
diffirence as new Gambians. Again Mr Sidibeh my heartful of thanks to you.
Long live the intellectuals and unegoistic individuals of this forum.
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Saul & Latjorr:
Points taken! I think it is normal/natural not to satisfy everyone on the L.
Actually, I was not signing the extracts before, but then two people on
Gambia L wrote to me privately and suggested that the extracts be signed and
gave good reasons for the suggestion which reasons, unfortunately, I cannot
disclose publicly on the L.
Now, having signed this last e-mail (Update 6), then came in your suggestion
which is also a valid one. Anyway, your advice is taken and in future, I'll
just send the extracts without signing them.
Initially, I wanted to be sending the whole content of the e-mails I receive
from my sources, of course, removing the e-mails addressees of the senders,
but I thought they may still be able to trace where the e-mails are coming
from in the Gambia.
So that's why when I receive these e-mails, I rewrite them to disguise the
source, but of course I do make sure that the facts are not distorted or
tampered with.
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Mr. Saidykhan:
No one, including Tombong, is being removed from the list for views expressed on this forum. Only one person has ever been expelled from the list (for other reasons) since Gambia-l was founded.
I hope that addresses your concern.
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Mr. Muhammad-Lamine-Jacques-Jassey-Conteh,
For your information brother, I don't have any intention of running for President of the Gambia like you openly harbor, so I don't give a damn how long President Jammeh stays in power. However, as long as he is in power, he has my unflinching support albeit my condemnation of the recent shooting of school children. My heart goes to the families of the victims. The student snafoo is very tragic and was grossly mishandled by the armed forces. I have not supported, and I am not in a position to defend what happened at all, so I don't know why you're trying to throw all this nonsense at me.
In politics, I don't hate anyone. I may disagree with you like is the case between Karamba Touray and I but we respect each other as worthy opponents, besides the botton line is whether or not one is willing to work toward national development regardless of who is on the helm.
You see, for me, I have the liberty to support and render decent when something goes wrong because my livelihood is not dependent on whether or not President Jammeh is in power. You see Mr., unlike you, I am a strong believer in 'rugged individualism' and have the expertise to make a decent living anywhere in the world. I don't dream about the Presidency like you do, because I'm quite confortable with my accomplishments. In the event that I choose to return to Gambia to work, it will be out of a pure desire to contribute to the technology development of Gambia and I'd be more than qualified in any capacity.
You know what Mr. Jacques, I don't think you want to engage in a personality contest with me but if you choose to, I will open a can of worms on you that will send shock waves to Gambia-l like never before.
So you want to kick me out of Gambia-l. Ha! Ha! Ha! For you information, I have been a member of this forum since day one when you were still hibernating in North Carolina. 'Hello' do I need to continue...?, and 'I ain't going nowhere' if I may depart from normal language for a minute.
If you want us to wash our dirty laundry in public, go ahead and make my day 'partner'.
Malafy "Mafy" Jarju
Software Engineer
Delta Air Lines
Mr. Conteh-Jassey-Jacques-wrote:
Mr. Singhateh:
I commend you for your straight forward condemnation of Malafy Jarju. He
seems to believe that the dictator will be in the Gambia forever.
The slaughter of innocent Gambian students should remind all of us, whether
we are pro or anti-Jammeh that intellectual property is vital to the
socioeconomic and political development of our country. The jemmeh camp
should know that these innocent students could have been their own brethren.
It is a sad day in the history of our country to have bigots who only care
about their self promotion.
Our history has been altered due to lack of concern and disrespect of human
life. Our friends and family are in terrible state of mind. Our case is a
tragic illustration of
fascist and communist maladministration of a dictator who is only concern
with his own ego. Malafy has a right to keep quiet because he is in no
position to defend the evil and terror that this lunatic has imposed on the
Gambian people. We should welcome him to delist from this forum. His
commentaries or letters have been divisive. We have not lost a Gambian of
trust, but an individual who is ashamed to face reality.
Comrade,
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Mr. Jarju
Can't we disagree amicably and objectively and stop all these personal
attacks. I mean even if someone else did attack you personally, am sure
you'll gain by not stooping to their standards (am not saying anyone did).
Regardless of our disagreements, I dont think these attacks do anything but
tarnish reputations and bring bad blood, and we can certainly do without
that kind of thing during these sad and tragic times. Thank you
Yankuba
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>Mr. Muhammad-Lamine-Jacques-Jassey-Conteh,
>
>For your information brother, I don't have any intention of running for
>President of the Gambia like you openly harbor, so I don't give a damn how
>long President Jammeh stays in power. However, as long as he is in power,
>he has my unflinching support albeit my condemnation of the recent shooting
>of school children. My heart goes to the families of the victims. The
>student snafoo is very tragic and was grossly mishandled by the armed
>forces. I have not supported, and I am not in a position to defend what
>happened at all, so I don't know why you're trying to throw all this
>nonsense at me.
>
>In politics, I don't hate anyone. I may disagree with you like is the case
>between Karamba Touray and I but we respect each other as worthy opponents,
>besides the botton line is whether or not one is willing to work toward
>national development regardless of who is on the helm.
>
>You see, for me, I have the liberty to support and render decent when
>something goes wrong because my livelihood is not dependent on whether or
>not President Jammeh is in power. You see Mr., unlike you, I am a strong
>believer in 'rugged individualism' and have the expertise to make a decent
>living anywhere in the world. I don't dream about the Presidency like you
>do, because I'm quite confortable with my accomplishments. In the event
>that I choose to return to Gambia to work, it will be out of a pure desire
>to contribute to the technology development of Gambia and I'd be more than
>qualified in any capacity.
>
>You know what Mr. Jacques, I don't think you want to engage in a
>personality contest with me but if you choose to, I will open a can of
>worms on you that will send shock waves to Gambia-l like never before.
>
>So you want to kick me out of Gambia-l. Ha! Ha! Ha! For you information, I
>have been a member of this forum since day one when you were still
>hibernating in North Carolina. 'Hello' do I need to continue...?, and 'I
>ain't going nowhere' if I may depart from normal language for a minute.
>
>If you want us to wash our dirty laundry in public, go ahead and make my
>day 'partner'.
>
> Malafy "Mafy" Jarju
> Software Engineer
> Delta Air Lines
>
>
>
>
>Mr. Conteh-Jassey-Jacques-wrote:
>
>
>Mr. Singhateh:
>I commend you for your straight forward condemnation of Malafy Jarju. He
>seems to believe that the dictator will be in the Gambia forever.
>
>The slaughter of innocent Gambian students should remind all of us, whether
>we are pro or anti-Jammeh that intellectual property is vital to the
>socioeconomic and political development of our country. The jemmeh camp
>should know that these innocent students could have been their own
>brethren.
>It is a sad day in the history of our country to have bigots who only care
>about their self promotion.
>
>Our history has been altered due to lack of concern and disrespect of human
>life. Our friends and family are in terrible state of mind. Our case is a
>tragic illustration of
>fascist and communist maladministration of a dictator who is only concern
>with his own ego. Malafy has a right to keep quiet because he is in no
>position to defend the evil and terror that this lunatic has imposed on the
>Gambian people. We should welcome him to delist from this forum. His
>commentaries or letters have been divisive. We have not lost a Gambian of
>trust, but an individual who is ashamed to face reality.
>
>
>Comrade,
>
>Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh .
>
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Dr. Amadou Janneh,
Thanks for reiterating the rules for removal from Gambia-l. Some of our newer members don't seem to get the twist.
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Mr. Saidykhan:
No one, including Tombong, is being removed from the list for views expressed on this forum. Only one person has ever been expelled from the list (for other reasons) since Gambia-l was founded.
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Mr. Sidibeh:
I wish to commend you for your thought provoking and succinct analysis
of the causes of the 94 coup, events that transpired since, and the
April 10 Massacre, in particular. In my view, you have identified many
of the challenges that afflict overseas Gambians and other communities
seeking to make a difference in their country of origin. Indeed, I share
your concern and frustration. It is a paradox that we continue to
contend and live with.
What your analysis left out however, is how far Gambia-L has come, from
a forum of necessary political/social discourse and criticism to one of
pro-active/agency. Unquestionably, G-L(and its constituent parts) is a
player in The Gambia's political landscape. Collectively, we created a
voice and space for ourselves long before the April 10 Massacre, and
have since then, exerted pressure on Jammeh and his regime. The latter
was made possible, in part, by the practical strategies the G-L took in
its efforts to influence events at home.
Not withstanding the lack of response from the Jammeh regime, The G-L
Position Paper(published in New African, The Independent, BBC interview
and other outlets)has made an impact. How much? It is hard to measure
as of now.. Yet, we must never judge our success and possible impact by
the lack of response from Jammeh and his government. This was to be
expected. The response I and others have received from Gambia since the
publication of the proposal have been positive. And in the aftermath of
the killings, our efforts to see justice rendered and comfort the nation
at a time of such a tragedy and loss, must not be underestimated. In
fact, the postings forwarded to us by Ebrima Ceesay from Gambia and the
circulation of Karamba Touray's article at home, and others I have
received privately, suggest that our efforts as a collective,
(GAMBIA-L), are positive.
Also, Overseas Gambians are very diverse in their political and
ideological orientations. We are not a monolith. In fact, a great
number of us are apolitical, but not any less concerned about events at
home, or trying to make a contribution, however modest. To call for
"some kind of ideological commitment...."on the part of Gambians, is at
best naive and setting ourselves up for possible failure. We must rid
ourselves of the notion that "We Are All One" because we are not.
Witness the April 10 Massacre and the different versions each
representing different interests. More important, Gambians today are
distinguished along lines of wealth, class, education, gender etc.,
hence different material interests. I wish it were different.
Thus, Gambians will support a cause(s) if it interests them, be it GESO,
the Book Project, COFFET-GAMBIA, etc. To expect overwhelming support
other than in a case such as the April 10 Massacre, would be difficult
to say the least. At best, we can strive for greater participation and
inclusion.
When changes occur in the lives of a people and nations, (short of a
revolution), it is bound to be tentative, fitful, messy and sometimes
slow. The Gambia and Gambians are not any different. While I commend
and admire the initiatives of Overseas Eritreans, our historical
conditions, as indicated in your first posting, are different in many
important respects. We are Gambians and like peoples every where, we
have both positive and negative attributes. That is a fact we must
accept and the basis upon which any analysis must proceed.
Finally, it has become fashionable to scapegoat so-called intellectuals
and in particular, their collective failure to the nation. Again,
intellectuals are not a monolith and the failures at home are a
collective responsibility that we all must bear. Most so-called
intellectuals do what they can to assist family and nation, in addition,
to their professional contributions. To expect less of them or
so-called "non-intellectuals" is unforgivable.
In conclusion, I agree with you and support your call to Gambians to
participate more in causes that interest them, be it political,
religious, economic, medical etc. I also urge Gambians (and myself in
particular), to redouble our efforts in our respective campaigns of
petition and letter writing for JUSTICE in Gambia and to do all we can
to rid Gambia of the likes of Yahya Jammeh. We can not be non-partisan
anymore, contrary to your suggestion of a "non-partisan" organization.
The time has come for us to take sides. And in our efforts to forge
along, and help tackle a difficult political terrain and human
shortcomings, we must continue to cherish debate and criticism like
those you have so eloquently raised. But in so doing, we must not
"throw out the baby with the bath water." Thanks.
Abdoulaye Saine
No justice, no peace!
Jammeh Must Go!
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>Hi Yankuba,
>
>Thank you for contacting us.
>
>We understand that problem, when you write in again I will take a closer
>look.
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>Original message follows:
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>Dear Sir or Madam:
>
>Recently, you received a petition letter regarding The Gambian student
>protesters, who were killed while protesting.
>
>This petition letter was in no way intended as Spam mail but due to the
>lack
>of foresight in designing the form, the end result was that many of the
>organizations, institutions, and individuals, whose support we are
>seeking,
>were inundated with mail generated by this automated online petition
>form.
>
>As the Webmaster of the site (http://www.gambia.f2s.com) hosting the
>petition form and the person who designed the online form, I sincerely
>apologize for any inconveniences this might have caused you or your
>organization. As such, I have taken the step of disabling this online
>petition letter until we can come up with a better way of informing
>people
>about this tragic event. Rest assured whatever we come up with, will not
>be
>Spam mail.
>
>I hope you accept my apologies and all those involved in ensuring that
>the
>people responsible for killing these Gambian students are brought to
>justice.
>
>I also hope we can rely on your continued support in keeping pressure on
>the
>Government of The Gambia in bringing those responsible for these
>senseless
>killing to justice.
>
>Again thank you for your concern and continued support and promotion of
>human rights around the world.
>
>Yankuba Njie
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Mr. Sidibeh,
Your brilliant piece is a very good overview of the underlying factors of
our present political quagmire. Some things very obvious to me: We have to
WALK THE WALK (after all the big talk!) There is no doubt that we talk a
good game. But that simply isn't enough. To effect any changes, we have to
put our money where our mouth is! Because irrespective of what our
individual ideas are regarding how to get rid of the rascals destroying our
country, the one constant needed is MONEY. Now, how do we get the needed
money, and what do we do with it?
First, we have to raise money in order to raise money. By this I mean, those
of us on this List and others outside of it who are cognizant of the urgent
need to throw out the APRC regime, need to set up a framework where we can
pool together our resources. My understanding is that we have about 600
members on this List. If you count out students and others who cannot afford
to contribute anything, my feeling is you'll still have at least 150 people
who can afford to give something. Now, assuming that each of those 150
people contribute $20.00 towards a common fund, we'll have $3,000.00. Hardly
an amount to loose sleep over. But don't despair yet, because with that
$3,000, we can organize a fundraiser or commercial dance in any Metro area
(in the US) with a high concentration of Gambians(DC, Atlanta & NYC are sure
winners,) and easily double the amount. After having just three such events,
we'll definitely pool well over $15,000! And if adventurous members like
myself have our way, we'll invest a third of that amount -about $5,000 in
the Stock Market. Yes the Stock Mkt! If the European side could pull off a
similar feat, the better. So, do we have 150 members willing to put down
$20.00 to jump start the idea? I'm willing to challenge anyone!
With that money, we could buy communication equipment for Opposition parties
back home, or buy them air time on private radio stations to counter the
constant lies and propaganda that Radio Gambia and Gambia TV puts out. If
things work according to plan, we could buy stationery for Gambian schools,
or even school buses. This isn't far fetched at all. It's within our reach.
But, like a former business prof of mine used to say, identifying "the"
problem is the same as solving the problem halfway (50%.) What therefore is
our main stumbling block?
To answer this question, one merely needs to look at the number of petty
Gambian organizations in the diaspora. Since, I'm a little familiar with the
US scene, and the Wash DC Metro Area in particular, I'll tell you what I
know for a fact about the organizations we have here. You can decide if the
story is familiar or not.
In the DC area, we have the Gambian Foundation. As far as I know, it's the
oldest Gambian organization in this area. The org is being run by Ousainou
M'bengue, Soffie Ceesay, and Mbye Sarr. It was the one that Tombong Saidy
was mainly involved with. Apparently Tombong has used his association with
this organization as political capital (refer to his interview with Ebrima
Drammeh of "Who's On" fame on Gambianet.com back in '98/'99.) His claims
about how he was helping Gambians through this org is to say the very least
grossly exaggerated. The few that he Tombong has "helped" are the foolish
people who come to this country (a level playing field by my judgment,)
refuse to go to school, or hold any job longer than six months, but then
involve themselves in petty crookery. I fail to see how bailing such fools
from jail helps the Gambia. But, not to deviate from the gist of my story,
the Gambia Foundation to it's credit, is the only org in this area that has
consistently organized demonstrations against all forms of injustice in the
Gambia - from Korro Ceesay's murder, through Sadibu Hydara's, to the latest
massacre of our students. The org publishes Jaliba, a news letter. However,
it is worth mentioning that there has been allegations of
mismanagement/financial impropriety levelled against the group by some
people. The good thing for the GF is that many of their accusers are people
of dubious character. I'll touch on this shortly.
Then there is the Gambia People's Association led by Sheik Jallow, Korro
Sillah and co. Tijan "Eku Bopa" Ceesay features prominently in the group.
For the life of me, I cannot tell you what this group stands for. Maybe one
of them will seize this opportunity to do that. All I can tell you
categorically is that, they used to organize commercial parties frequently
prior to '96. They do so today with less frequency. What I also can tell you
is that there's always some type of fracas at their events -90% of the time
(normally some drunken fool starting a fight or something like that.) But
then their MC is always conspicuously drunk himself, so no surprises there.
For some reason, they seem to have a knack for attracting the underbelly of
the Gambian community in this area. To be blunt, some of the most degenerate
characters among Gambians belong to that group. I'm talking about the type
who'd rather buy a car they can ill-afford than spend that money on some
school; the type who tell you they cannot donate $20.00 to a Gambian charity
because it would take away from the $100 they plan to spend at some night
club; the type who rents out the most expensive cars during the ALD to
impress some brainless shallow girl, when mom and dad would kill for a bag
of rice back home! You get the picture? Apparently they tried to amalgamate
with the Gambia Foundation some time ago. Knowing the people in the two
groups, I'm not surprised that that proposal was a non-starter. That was
when the allegations against the GF started.
I had gone to see Haddy Mundow, one of the local MoneyGram (transmit
money home for a fee) biz people back in '98 when Sheik Jallow walked in. On
Haddy's cupboard were two shields/trophies with the "GPA" insignia and some
citation written on them. I thought the woman was some sort of athlete (you
never know with America.) I asked her what I was missing. Before long, I was
privy to testimony in which all Gambian orgs -but the GPA, are useless or
divisive. The GF particularly was painted as the domain of three people who
use the association's tax-exempt status to enrich themselves. Also that the
GF trio had even gone to the extent of calling the immigration people on
them. Blah, blah, blah... Now, I'm not good at hiding my emotions or
shutting up when I feel I'm being lied to. So, despite my wife's constant
tugging of my shirt to silence me, I threw out some few questions. Not to
bore you with those details, but both Haddy Mundow and Sheik Jallow realized
I wasn't buying their story. Here is an org that has been around for god
knows how long without absolutely nothing to show for it, and they're
blaming everyone but themselves. Go figure, like they say around here!
Also, there is the Gambia Support Group of which I am secretary. Alasana
Samateh of Baltimore is Chairman. The org was founded in '96 to help the
Gambian community in the US in times of need, and to assist as many Gambian
high school students as the org can afford with scholarships. That program
continues. However, the GSG isn't without it's problems. A combination of
egoistic behavior, pettiness, ineffective leadership, and sheer indiscipline
has retarded serious attempts to move the org forward. We're currently in
the throes of a serious lethargy that threatens the very survival of the
association. Whether the GSG will make it or not depends on a break from the
past that the association has simply been unable to muster.
And finally, there is the Gambia Leadership Conference led by Latjor Ndow
and Karamba Touray notably. The GLC is supposed to be the "umbrella" group.
The only problem is, it's not! A classic idea of an umbrella group is one
that brings together representatives of all associations under one "tent"
where they strategize the "larger picture" and filter that info down to the
parts that form the whole - just like the European parliament. But what we
have with the GLC is no such thing. Instead, it's merely a case of people
going around telling those with time to listen that they are the "umbrella"
group. Is it any wonder that after over two years of existence, the GLC
neither has the membership nor the resources to do anything substantive? As
a matter of fact, many people regard the GLC as something of a joke. It's a
brilliant idea gone awry. For this association to have any kind of
credibility, the numerous Gambian orgs in this area and around the country
need to be invited to send Reps who'll then elect a Supreme Council that
would chart the direction this org needs to take. Otherwise, this noble idea
will continue to be symbolized by nothing more than an annual EVENT where a
few intellectuals gather for a few hours in a vain attempt to preach to a
congregation that neither wants nor appreciates their sermon. So, no offense
intended Latjor and Karamba, but this GLC thing is a classic quixotic
venture as it is. Do you want to change it, or do you want to continue
fooling yourselves that you're the "umbrella" group? The choice is yours!
One last issue I'd like to touch on, is the ALD annual event. These
gatherings frankly speaking, have been nothing but money-making ventures for
a few individual Gambians. In the case of the ALD, the name needs to go in
my view. Why? Because when one goes to the so-called ALD, it's for every
reason other than the plight of Africa. One may go there to see long-lost
friends, to chase after some girl/woman, to enjoy oneself etc, etc, but the
last thing on one's mind is African Liberation. Now, the Gambia is the
smallest country on continental Africa. If there is to be a genuine "African
Liberation Day" in DC, then common sense tells one that our bigger brothers
ought to be involved. I've asked African friends from Liberia, Zimbabwe,
Mali, S. Africa, Senegal about this ALD, and the answer is always "what
ALD?" So, why continue to pretend that this annual event is about Africa?
What African country, charity, or institution has ever benefitted from this
ALD? Where in Africa has the proceeds of the past ALD events been spent?
Where has the profits of the past ALDs gone - PERIOD? Any time you ask this
question, every one plays dumb! But at the very least, let these people be
honest for once, and call this event something more appropriate. Call it
"Gambia week," or "Gambia Family Re-union." Hell, call it whatever you want,
but stop lying to yourself and others that it's an African Liberation Day.
The last time I checked, much of Africa remains under the yolk of home-grown
tyranny. The events of April 10th and 11th in our very own Gambia bears
testimony to that. So, if for nothing else, it's a little premature to be
celebrating African Liberation! So if you ALD organizers know something I
don't, I'm all ears.
So, Mr Sidibeh, there you have the Gambian community in the Wash DC Metro
area. I've deliberately left out the religious orgs, but the four orgs
discussed are the main ones Gambian around this end. As you can see, except
for the GPA, each has something to give. Now, the question is: how do we
overcome the ego problem, the appetite for corruption, and the common
indiscipline that are the bane of our society, in order to pool our
resources to get rid of the cancer that Yaya Jammeh represents. It's time
for serious introspection. I wish I could have given you a better picture of
us here, but this is the reality. I'm not re-writing or doctoring anyone's
history, I'm telling you what I know first hand. The sooner we throw the
little we can afford together and face Yaya with a concerted effort, the
better for all of us.
Thanks for your overview, and keep it coming.
Saul.
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Kabir,
I wonder why you spend most of your time forwarding articles to the List.
While most of those postings are very valuable, your own analysis tops them
all. I had no idea you had it in you. So, please don't retreat to the back
bench again. We need you in the front lines. Together, we'll usher out these
bunch of Aimless People Ruining our Country gang (thanks Dr. Janneh.) Keep
it up Kabir!
Saul.
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> As Yaya Jammeh and his forces of repression intensify their hunt
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>the young Gambian students who have so far managed to evade them,
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Fr. Mose,
Well said! You need to emerge from the shadows. This is no longer a pro/con
APRC issue. It's simply about the survival of our people. No Gambian with
sense will attack you for speaking the truth. If they do, you're sure to
have defenders. We'll either have to get rid of these savages, or they'll
end up killing all our people. I agree with your sentiments.
Saul.
>FELLOW GAMBIANS:
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>After a week of ceaseless condemnation in cyber-space and other media
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Seedy,
Be rest assured that Tombong will not be kicked out of the list. No one has ever
been expelled from this list except for Matarr Njie as Amadou Janneh has rightly
stated.
sarian
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> G,
>
> It is always of paramount importance for one to understand and remember what
> he or she preaches. Tombong is like any other individual on the List. One may
> not like what he writes, but that does not warrant him being unsubscribed
> from the List. He argues his points, but does not violate any rules or
> regulations governing the list. Above all, anytime something happens that is
> of public concern, there is always someone out here who will ask for his
> opinion. He does not have to write to please anyone or any group of people,
> but express his thoughts. Freedom of Speech is a fundamental human right.
> Asking for his removal from the List is just tantamount to AFPRC/APRC
> demanding for the closure of Radio 1, FM. because they do not like what they
> air.
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> It will be insane to teach principles of democracy and practice
> authoritarianism. Unless such attitudes are changed, we as a people will
> never be better off. Because we will continue to make the same mistakes that
> hinder us from socioeconomic and political progress.
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Dear list Members,
The above mention person is suffering from acute severe asthma and the
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List Members:
Below is a copy of the letter we The Gambians in Atlanta sent to The U. N.
Secretary General.
Mayor Bill Campbell
55 Trinity Avenue SW
Suite 2400
Atlanta, Georgia 30335.
Dear Sir:
Certain events are unfolding in The Gambia which compel us to write with a
sense of urgency and ask for your help. The pages of human history are
littered with accounts of man's mistreatment of man, yet certain species of
misconduct are so vicious, so offensive to the code of decency, they shock
the conscience. Thus murder is murder, yet it is all the more shocking to
the human experience when committed by a mother against daughter, father
against son, or by one loved one against another. Surely we are no less
appalled when a government decides with full deliberation to turn its
instruments of war upon its citizenry for no other reason than to quell their
determination to exercise their democratic and constitutionally guaranteed
rights.
On April 10, 2000 the government of The Gambia committed such an offense
against its citizens of the most innocent age when it ordered fire on a
peaceful demonstration of students as young as 3 years of age. Some were cut
down instantly and still others sent home with their garments dipped in
blood.
From all indications on the ground, we have determined that the peaceful
demonstration undertaken by the Gambian students on April 10, 2000 was
entirely justifiable and wholly consistent with their democratic right
guaranteed by The Gambian Constitution, and the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights. From all accounts, the following events transpired:
1. On March 9, 2000 Ebrima Barry, a student enrolled at Brikama School,
entered into a dispute with his teacher over his seating designation at the
school
2. The Brikama Fire Department was called which promptly arrested Ebrima
Barry and detained him. In the course of his detention at the Brikama Fire
Department, he was stripped of his clothes, his head shaved, his body covered
in wet cement and made to ingest the same. Furthermore, Ebrima was compelled
to carry from one location to another no less than 40-60 bags of cement, one
at a time. Ebrima subsequently died from the injuries he received in the
course of his detention.
3. A man in uniform presumed to be a police officer raped a student Binta
Manneh, at the Stadium, on March 10, 2000.
4. The Gambian Student Union (GAMSU) was outraged and properly communicated
the concerns of its membership to the authorities at the failure to arrest
and prosecutes culpable persons.
5. The government's inaction convinced students that the invocation of their
democratic right to peaceably gather and express their concerns was necessary
to demonstrate their resolve that justice should prevail for their two fellow
students.
6. On the morning of April 10, 2000, GAMSU membership was to first assemble
at the GTTI where their placards were stored. However, on arrival,
paramilitary forces chanting "peace by force confronted them."
7. The paramilitary fired in the air at the GTTI, however it is not clear
whether it was live ammunition, blank shots, or rubber bullets that were used
at this time. What is certain is that the paramilitary fired in the air in
an attempt to disperse the students.
8. Even though the students at GTTI were dispersed after a brief skirmish
with the paramilitary, other students en route got word that their colleagues
were being fired upon and they scattered. Clusters of students throughout
the Serekunda area encountered paramilitary forces in pursuit.
9. In an effort to keep the paramilitary at bay, students burned tires and
defended themselves with stones as they marched on.
10. When the demonstration reached the paramilitary base at Bakau and at The
Red Cross Headquarters, live ammunition was fired into the students on orders
from someone still not disclosed killing Omar Barrow, and wounding several.
Omar Barrow was a media practitioner at Sud FM Radio Station who was acting
as a Red Cross Volunteer.
11. At no time was any student armed with anything other than stones.
Our very humanity, our right of domicile within the realm of human decency is
violated and our objection must be emphatically registered no matter the
cost. And so it shall be.
However, we are determined not to surrender to the temptation of vengeance as
comes most naturally to any human being confronted with such calamitous
circumstances. Though our blood is turned to bile, we prefer to draw a lesson
from the pages of our own prophets like Martin Luther King. Those whose
blood has been shed shall not shed blood; and those who have known tears
shall wipe them from the faces of others. In the quest for justice, the
bravest offer their lives and lay claim to no one else's.
We will survive this. However, we shudder at the specter of Somalia,
Liberia, or Sierra Leone lurking in the twilight. A government determined to
rule at all costs, costs a lot. Eventually, the totality of its misdeeds
will grind down the very fabric of human endurance and shatter it.
Dissent exists in all known societies, human and otherwise, and must be
allowed peaceful expression. That is a necessary condition to peaceful
co-existence. Gambians will reclaim our country, how this occurs is entirely
dependent on the conduct of the renegade government. As in all critical
moments like this a battle rages within each citizen; a battle between
peaceful resistance and bloody vengeance. A government that insists on
brutality aids the latter and not the former. And then God help us all. We
must all work together so that that day never arrives.
To this end we respectfully request that you:
1. Join us in a peaceful demonstration on April 27, 2000 to commence from the
CNN building and proceed to the Georgia State Capitol Building.
2. Assist us in presenting a draft resolution to the Georgia State
Legislature and the United States Congress condemning the brutish murder of
Gambian children.
3. Immediately dispatch a letter to The Gambia government condemning the
atrocities committed against its innocent citizens on April 10, 2000 and
demanding the immediate release of all persons in custody as a result of the
events on or about April 10.
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Respectfully,
Momodou K. Ceesay
Secretary
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Liist members:
Error. Wrong letter sent. Here is the right one.
His Excellency
Mr., Kofi Annan
United Nations Secretary General
United Nations Plaza, Room 3800
New York, New York 10017
Dear Sir:
We heard with dismay, infact with alarm, of your impending trip to the Gambia
ostensibly to inaugurate a new U.N.D.P. Office block. Ordinarily Gambians
everywhere and of all political persuasions would have been honored, jubilant
to receive the Secretary general of the United Nations, distinguished son of
Africa in the Gambia. As things stand now in the Gambia, your visit will only
give comfort, succor and legitimacy to the murderous, obnoxious, corrupt and
morally bankrupt regime. You may by now know that this regime will not
hesitate to murder its sons and daughters to hold on to power at any cost. We
have learnt from very reliable sources that over twenty students were
systematically mowed down and killed by the Gambia's intervention forces on
April 10, 2000. The students were merely protesting the lack of action from
the regime to deal with the culprits who killed a fellow student and
subjected a female student to rape and torture. Instead of dealing with the
students' grievances, the regime answered the only way they know: Killings
murder, detention and torture. Apart from the large number of the students
killed, a sizable number had received bullet wounds, and many are currently
being held by the security forces, and without doubt, being tortured. This
incident is the Gambia's Sharpville Massacre and should be condemned
unequivocally and in the strongest terms by all, and United Nations taking
the lead. Sir, you should underline your displeasure and every believer in
human rights, justice and fundamental rights of assembly and free speech and
cancel your trip to the Gambia.
You may note that these murders followed not in the heels of daylight of two
unarmed soldiers, one openly in Albert Market located in the capital, Banjul.
The latter incident was meant to inject fear in the security forces, and a
warning to all Gambians that the regime will use force to silence anyone even
legitimate questions are being asked about the Head of State. It is
inconceivable that the Secretary General of the United Nations, who recently
launched his bold and farseeing millennial vision will visit a country being
run like thugs.
Sir, you may wish to note that the present regime in the Gambia has tainted
their hands with Gambians' blood, and we would not want the illustrious
office of the secretary-general used to cleanse those heinous crimes. This
regime has killed over sixty soldiers on November 11, 1994. Some of these
soldiers were buried alive. Since the world has been deafeningly silent about
these murders, and other atrocities committed by the regime, the practice of
silencing their opponents, real or imagined continued. The horrible murder of
Korro Ceesay, the minister of Finance is a case in point. He was bludgeoned
to death and his body burnt to ashes. A member of his junta, Mr. Sadebou
Hydara was drowned in a barrel of water. The circumstances surrounding these
two murders are yet to be satisfactorily explained.
The Gambia as you are aware, was run on democratic lines since the country
gained its independence. Although the country is poor, valiant efforts were
made to develop the country. During this period, democracy and pluralistic
politics, judicial independence and the rule of law, freedom of the press and
freedom of speech and assembly was not sacrificed at the altar of
development. These basic freedom were cherished and jealously guarded as most
Gambians subscribe to the creed that the observance of these fundamental
principles were critical building blocks to the nation's building efforts.
Consequently, the beliefs which are nurtured and practiced in the was
responsible for the peace and progress that Gambians enjoyed for a long time.
The period of steady development politically and economically was shattered
on July 22, 1994 when the military took over the government. The development
of the country has suffered a severe reversal since then.
The first principle they threw over board was the principle of free, fair and
open elections. The junta organized an election that they made sure they
would carry by banning all potential rivals through Decree 89 that
essentially forbade the participation of all individuals who were active in
politics between 1965 and 1994. To press their advantage they redrew the
constituency boundaries, gerrymandering, and used all foul means including
brutal force to win their way. The junta tried to win respectability and
legitimacy by conducting elections that were deemed fraudulent by all
interested observers. Decree 89 that essentially disenfranchise the totality
of The Gambia's political leadership is still in force.
The press of course suffers when the human rights of the people are trampled
upon. Draconian decrees were passed to make it difficult for the press to
operate normally. In situations where the press uses its genius to overcome
barrier set in their way, the regime resort to crude methods: detention,
beating, sabotage, deportation and closures to get their way.
The regime that is fascist in every sense uses the fascist tactics of terror,
economic deprivation, thugerry and commonly murder to silence its opponents.
The leadership of the regime in The Gambia is fast becoming equated with the
likes of Idi Amin and Bokassa. The country is deteriorating so fast that if
nothing is done to arrest the rapid decline, The Gambia will join the rank of
those failed states. The Gambians are trying to organize themselves to sort
out this aberration in the development of the country. But we are always
fighting against a subterfuge, perpetrated by the regime and those Donors who
have to implement their programs at the back of Gambian misery, that the
situation in The Gambia is normal because the country has a civilian
government. It will be unacceptable if you subscribe to this insidious
deception by visiting The Gambia as the regime is run by soldiers who have
don their uniforms for civilian clothes. The regime is still militaristic and
run the country in the crude and deadly style of Samuel Doe, Idi Amin,
Bokassa etc. We will be disappointed if the Secretary General of the United
Nations, Champion of human rights and the oppressed will unwittingly anoint
the evil regime running The Gambia at present.
Sincerely,
Kebba Jallow
Chairman
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List Members:
There will be a demonstration in Atlanta on April 27, 2000 at 11.00am. The
march will start at the CNN building and end at the City Hall. A copy of the
letter listed below was sent to some prominent members in Atlanta. Please
turn out in large numbers in order to send a strong signal to that BUTCHER IN
KANILAI.
Mayor Bill Campbell
55 Trinity Avenue SW
Suite 2400
Atlanta, Georgia 30335.
Dear Sir:
Certain events are unfolding in The Gambia which compel us to write with a
sense of urgency and ask for your help. The pages of human history are
littered with accounts of man's mistreatment of man, yet certain species of
misconduct are so vicious, so offensive to the code of decency, they shock
the conscience. Thus murder is murder, yet it is all the more shocking to
the human experience when committed by a mother against daughter, father
against son, or by one loved one against another. Surely we are no less
appalled when a government decides with full deliberation to turn its
instruments of war upon its citizenry for no other reason than to quell their
determination to exercise their democratic and constitutionally guaranteed
rights.
On April 10, 2000 the government of The Gambia committed such an offense
against its citizens of the most innocent age when it ordered fire on a
peaceful demonstration of students as young as 3 years of age. Some were cut
down instantly and still others sent home with their garments dipped in
blood.
From all indications on the ground, we have determined that the peaceful
demonstration undertaken by the Gambian students on April 10, 2000 was
entirely justifiable and wholly consistent with their democratic right
guaranteed by The Gambian Constitution, and the Universal Declaration of
Human Rights. From all accounts, the following events transpired:
1. On March 9, 2000 Ebrima Barry, a student enrolled at Brikama School,
entered into a dispute with his teacher over his seating designation at the
school
2. The Brikama Fire Department was called which promptly arrested Ebrima
Barry and detained him. In the course of his detention at the Brikama Fire
Department, he was stripped of his clothes, his head shaved, his body covered
in wet cement and made to ingest the same. Furthermore, Ebrima was compelled
to carry from one location to another no less than 40-60 bags of cement, one
at a time. Ebrima subsequently died from the injuries he received in the
course of his detention.
3. A man in uniform presumed to be a police officer raped a student Binta
Manneh, at the Stadium, on March 10, 2000.
4. The Gambian Student Union (GAMSU) was outraged and properly communicated
the concerns of its membership to the authorities at the failure to arrest
and prosecutes culpable persons.
5. The government's inaction convinced students that the invocation of their
democratic right to peaceably gather and express their concerns was necessary
to demonstrate their resolve that justice should prevail for their two fellow
students.
6. On the morning of April 10, 2000, GAMSU membership was to first assemble
at the GTTI where their placards were stored. However, on arrival,
paramilitary forces chanting "peace by force confronted them".
7. The paramilitary fired in the air at the GTTI, however it is not clear
whether it was live ammunition, blank shots, or rubber bullets that were used
at this time. What is certain is that the paramilitary fired in the air in
an attempt to disperse the students.
8. Even though the students at GTTI were dispersed after a brief skirmish
with the paramilitary, other students en route got word that their colleagues
were being fired upon and they scattered. Clusters of students throughout
the Serekunda area encountered paramilitary forces in pursuit.
9. In an effort to keep the paramilitary at bay, students burned tires and
defended themselves with stones as they marched on.
10. When the demonstration reached the paramilitary base at Bakau and at The
Red Cross Headquarters, live ammunition was fired into the students on orders
from someone still not disclosed killing Omar Barrow, and wounding several.
Omar Barrow was a media practitioner at Sud FM Radio Station who was acting
as a Red Cross Volunteer.
11. At no time was any student armed with anything other than stones.
Our very humanity, our right of domicile within the realm of human decency is
violated and our objection must be emphatically registered no matter the
cost. And so it shall be.
However, we are determined not to surrender to the temptation of vengeance as
comes most naturally to any human being confronted with such calamitous
circumstances. Though our blood is turned to bile, we prefer to draw a lesson
from the pages of our own prophets like Martin Luther King. Those whose
blood has been shed shall not shed blood; and those who have known tears
shall wipe them from the faces of others. In the quest for justice, the
bravest offer their lives and lay claim to no one else's.
We will survive this. However, we shudder at the specter of Somalia,
Liberia, or Sierra Leone lurking in the twilight. A government determined to
rule at all costs, costs a lot. Eventually, the totality of its misdeeds
will grind down the very fabric of human endurance and shatter it.
Dissent exists in all known societies, human and otherwise, and must be
allowed peaceful expression. That is a necessary condition to peaceful
co-existence. Gambians will reclaim our country, how this occurs is entirely
dependent on the conduct of the renegade government. As in all critical
moments like this a battle rages within each citizen; a battle between
peaceful resistance and bloody vengeance. A government that insists on
brutality aids the latter and not the former. And then God help us all. We
must all work together so that that day never arrives.
To this end we respectfully request that you:
1. Join us in a peaceful demonstration on April 27, 2000 to commence from the
CNN building and proceed to the Georgia State Capitol Building.
2. Assist us in presenting a draft resolution to the Georgia State
Legislature and the United States Congress condemning the brutish murder of
Gambian children.
3. Immediately dispatch a letter to The Gambia government condemning the
atrocities committed against its innocent citizens on April 10, 2000 and
demanding the immediate release of all persons in custody as a result of the
events on or about April 10.
_________________________________
Respectfully,
Momodou K. Ceesay
Secretary
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Mr. Momodou Ceesay:
Excellent and powerful letter. Keep up the good work.
Abdoulaye
Momodou Ceesay wrote:
>
> List Members:
>
> Below is a copy of the letter we The Gambians in Atlanta sent to The U. N.
> Secretary General.
>
> Mayor Bill Campbell
> 55 Trinity Avenue SW
> Suite 2400
> Atlanta, Georgia 30335.
> Dear Sir:
> Certain events are unfolding in The Gambia which compel us to write with a
> sense of urgency and ask for your help. The pages of human history are
> littered with accounts of man's mistreatment of man, yet certain species of
> misconduct are so vicious, so offensive to the code of decency, they shock
> the conscience. Thus murder is murder, yet it is all the more shocking to
> the human experience when committed by a mother against daughter, father
> against son, or by one loved one against another. Surely we are no less
> appalled when a government decides with full deliberation to turn its
> instruments of war upon its citizenry for no other reason than to quell their
> determination to exercise their democratic and constitutionally guaranteed
> rights.
>
> On April 10, 2000 the government of The Gambia committed such an offense
> against its citizens of the most innocent age when it ordered fire on a
> peaceful demonstration of students as young as 3 years of age. Some were cut
> down instantly and still others sent home with their garments dipped in
> blood.
>
> >From all indications on the ground, we have determined that the peaceful
> demonstration undertaken by the Gambian students on April 10, 2000 was
> entirely justifiable and wholly consistent with their democratic right
> guaranteed by The Gambian Constitution, and the Universal Declaration of
> Human Rights. From all accounts, the following events transpired:
>
> 1. On March 9, 2000 Ebrima Barry, a student enrolled at Brikama School,
> entered into a dispute with his teacher over his seating designation at the
> school
>
> 2. The Brikama Fire Department was called which promptly arrested Ebrima
> Barry and detained him. In the course of his detention at the Brikama Fire
> Department, he was stripped of his clothes, his head shaved, his body covered
> in wet cement and made to ingest the same. Furthermore, Ebrima was compelled
> to carry from one location to another no less than 40-60 bags of cement, one
> at a time. Ebrima subsequently died from the injuries he received in the
> course of his detention.
>
> 3. A man in uniform presumed to be a police officer raped a student Binta
> Manneh, at the Stadium, on March 10, 2000.
>
> 4. The Gambian Student Union (GAMSU) was outraged and properly communicated
> the concerns of its membership to the authorities at the failure to arrest
> and prosecutes culpable persons.
>
> 5. The government's inaction convinced students that the invocation of their
> democratic right to peaceably gather and express their concerns was necessary
> to demonstrate their resolve that justice should prevail for their two fellow
> students.
>
> 6. On the morning of April 10, 2000, GAMSU membership was to first assemble
> at the GTTI where their placards were stored. However, on arrival,
> paramilitary forces chanting "peace by force confronted them."
>
> 7. The paramilitary fired in the air at the GTTI, however it is not clear
> whether it was live ammunition, blank shots, or rubber bullets that were used
> at this time. What is certain is that the paramilitary fired in the air in
> an attempt to disperse the students.
>
> 8. Even though the students at GTTI were dispersed after a brief skirmish
> with the paramilitary, other students en route got word that their colleagues
> were being fired upon and they scattered. Clusters of students throughout
> the Serekunda area encountered paramilitary forces in pursuit.
>
> 9. In an effort to keep the paramilitary at bay, students burned tires and
> defended themselves with stones as they marched on.
>
> 10. When the demonstration reached the paramilitary base at Bakau and at The
> Red Cross Headquarters, live ammunition was fired into the students on orders
> from someone still not disclosed killing Omar Barrow, and wounding several.
> Omar Barrow was a media practitioner at Sud FM Radio Station who was acting
> as a Red Cross Volunteer.
>
> 11. At no time was any student armed with anything other than stones.
>
> Our very humanity, our right of domicile within the realm of human decency is
> violated and our objection must be emphatically registered no matter the
> cost. And so it shall be.
>
> However, we are determined not to surrender to the temptation of vengeance as
> comes most naturally to any human being confronted with such calamitous
> circumstances. Though our blood is turned to bile, we prefer to draw a lesson
> from the pages of our own prophets like Martin Luther King. Those whose
> blood has been shed shall not shed blood; and those who have known tears
> shall wipe them from the faces of others. In the quest for justice, the
> bravest offer their lives and lay claim to no one else's.
>
> We will survive this. However, we shudder at the specter of Somalia,
> Liberia, or Sierra Leone lurking in the twilight. A government determined to
> rule at all costs, costs a lot. Eventually, the totality of its misdeeds
> will grind down the very fabric of human endurance and shatter it.
>
> Dissent exists in all known societies, human and otherwise, and must be
> allowed peaceful expression. That is a necessary condition to peaceful
> co-existence. Gambians will reclaim our country, how this occurs is entirely
> dependent on the conduct of the renegade government. As in all critical
> moments like this a battle rages within each citizen; a battle between
> peaceful resistance and bloody vengeance. A government that insists on
> brutality aids the latter and not the former. And then God help us all. We
> must all work together so that that day never arrives.
>
> To this end we respectfully request that you:
>
> 1. Join us in a peaceful demonstration on April 27, 2000 to commence from the
> CNN building and proceed to the Georgia State Capitol Building.
>
> 2. Assist us in presenting a draft resolution to the Georgia State
> Legislature and the United States Congress condemning the brutish murder of
> Gambian children.
>
> 3. Immediately dispatch a letter to The Gambia government condemning the
> atrocities committed against its innocent citizens on April 10, 2000 and
> demanding the immediate release of all persons in custody as a result of the
> events on or about April 10.
>
> _________________________________
> Respectfully,
> Momodou K. Ceesay
> Secretary
>
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Ebrima Ceesay,
Your updates are so good. Keep them coming. I have confirmed all of what your
source just revealed to you. I have confirmed it to the highest level it
could be. Jammeh gave the orders and yes, some of his cabinet members even
called him to find out if he really gave the orders.
Good job. keep it up.
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Great .....this is the whole point ...we must not let people drift away from
this basic fact ......YAYA MUST FACE JUSTICE FOR ORDERING THE SHOOTING
...anything less is unacceptable .....even if he dismisses some of his
ministers and army guys, we should still ensure that yaya face up like a man
for once
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>Ebrima Ceesay,
>Your updates are so good. Keep them coming. I have confirmed all of what
>your
>source just revealed to you. I have confirmed it to the highest level it
>could be. Jammeh gave the orders and yes, some of his cabinet members even
>called him to find out if he really gave the orders.
>Good job. keep it up.
>
>Ousman Bojang.
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Malafy:
I encourage you to throw out any dirty laundry you know of me. At this
moment, any presidential aspirant should concentrate on kicking the dictator
out of The Gambia. We can have only one presidential candidate against your
lunatic dictator. Unity should be our preamble. We must stay focus and
fight this mad man. Your communist and military style harassment only
convinces me that you have nothing to say. Personality contest is not my
indignation.
Members of the forum know at least who his saying the truth. We want to
engage in substantive discussion about the lack of leadership in The Gambia.
You must be out of reality to even suggest that the dictator will me in The
Gambia forever. Dictator yahya jemus has offended more of his former
supporters than any military lunatic in the history of politics. The people
in Banjul cannot wait to vote him out of office. Remember what he has done
to innocent Gambians, especially those young students who could have been the
progress of our country. Dictator yahya jemus is the worst thing that ever
happened to The Gambia.
If you are willing to engage in a debate about The Gambia, I invite you to
attend one of the forums on 4th of July. Gambians will be able to judge for
themselves about the garbage that is coming out of your mouth. You have a
record to defend. We must be willing to understand that when we disagree in
principle, we must be steadfast to our cause and let Gambians be our
audience. We in the opposition cannot be intimidated by your nearsightedness
and denial of the basic truth. You cannot control the organizers of July
4th, and we in the opposition do not care what you make. We only care about
our country. Please stop publicizing yourself. Let the public do that.
I promise you that your agent John P. Bojang will not be given a free ride in
Atlanta. I will seek to be heard if he is given any opportunity to speak.
The opposition will be doing a disservice for not condemning the slaughter of
innocent Gambians in front of the dictator's uncle. We want to be heard. We
want the truth to be revealed. We are willing to protect what is right for
our country. We will not disappoint any Gambian. Please stay tune on July
4th. Our struggle will never die.
Dictator yahya jemus must go.
Comrade,
Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:39:11 PDT
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Mr. Makaveli & Jabou,
Either you are too drunk with hatred to think properly or you are in the
wrong forum/list. List managers should remind the lady and gentleman that
this forum does not belong to any particular group or faction, be they pro
or anti Jammeh. This is a democratic forum where all views could be heard
and expressed - where we should agree to disagree. You can check with the
managers on how long I have been a member of this list, may be that will
tell you what type of person I am. I am not a quitter and I will be a thorn
on your sides for a long time. If you cannot stand the heat, you might as
well get out of the kitchen.
On a more general note, we all have our different views and political
affiliations and despite our differences, we should respect each other. We
should not allow our differences or divergence of views to blind or cloud
our judgement and thinking process. Let's debate the issues.
Sometimes I am surprise how your hatred of Jammeh can cloud your judgements.
One case in point is a posting that states that the Gambia government is
asking for the repatriation of GAMSU members from Senegal. How many of you,
questioned the validity of this statement? Have some GAMSU members really
fled to Senegal? If the answer is yes, has the Government made any request
for their extradition to The Gambia? Very few bordered to find out whether
this was true or not.
By the way, all the students that were arrested in relation to the April
10th and 11th incident have been release except 6 of them. I will get you
names of these six. However, there are still some non-students still in
detention and these are those who were arrested because they were engaged in
some criminal activities during the demonstration.
Schools will be open April 8th 2000. Schools were supposed to close Friday,
14 April and open 8 April for the Easter Holiday, however they closed
earlier.
This is a difficult period for all Gambains regardless of one's political
inclinations and as we through this healing period, lets endeavour to avoid
such an incident in the future. By next week the Commission of Enquiry will
be set up and it will begin the process of searching for the truth.
Happy Good Friday to all and Happy Easter as well. Some of you will miss the
"NAN MBURU".
PEACE
TOMBONG
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Mafy,
Do not waste your time and energy on Muhammad-Lamin-Jacques-Jassey-Conteh.
He tested the grounds when he ran for Parliament; and did you know he did
not even win in his own village?. He ran as an NCP candidate then.
PEACE
Tombong
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>Mr. Muhammad-Lamine-Jacques-Jassey-Conteh,
>
>For your information brother, I don't have any intention of running for
>President of the Gambia like you openly harbor, so I don't give a damn how
>long President Jammeh stays in power. However, as long as he is in power,
>he has my unflinching support albeit my condemnation of the recent shooting
>of school children. My heart goes to the families of the victims. The
>student snafoo is very tragic and was grossly mishandled by the armed
>forces. I have not supported, and I am not in a position to defend what
>happened at all, so I don't know why you're trying to throw all this
>nonsense at me.
>
>In politics, I don't hate anyone. I may disagree with you like is the case
>between Karamba Touray and I but we respect each other as worthy opponents,
>besides the botton line is whether or not one is willing to work toward
>national development regardless of who is on the helm.
>
>You see, for me, I have the liberty to support and render decent when
>something goes wrong because my livelihood is not dependent on whether or
>not President Jammeh is in power. You see Mr., unlike you, I am a strong
>believer in 'rugged individualism' and have the expertise to make a decent
>living anywhere in the world. I don't dream about the Presidency like you
>do, because I'm quite confortable with my accomplishments. In the event
>that I choose to return to Gambia to work, it will be out of a pure desire
>to contribute to the technology development of Gambia and I'd be more than
>qualified in any capacity.
>
>You know what Mr. Jacques, I don't think you want to engage in a
>personality contest with me but if you choose to, I will open a can of
>worms on you that will send shock waves to Gambia-l like never before.
>
>So you want to kick me out of Gambia-l. Ha! Ha! Ha! For you information, I
>have been a member of this forum since day one when you were still
>hibernating in North Carolina. 'Hello' do I need to continue...?, and 'I
>ain't going nowhere' if I may depart from normal language for a minute.
>
>If you want us to wash our dirty laundry in public, go ahead and make my
>day 'partner'.
>
> Malafy "Mafy" Jarju
> Software Engineer
> Delta Air Lines
>
>
>
>
>Mr. Conteh-Jassey-Jacques-wrote:
>
>
>Mr. Singhateh:
>I commend you for your straight forward condemnation of Malafy Jarju. He
>seems to believe that the dictator will be in the Gambia forever.
>
>The slaughter of innocent Gambian students should remind all of us, whether
>we are pro or anti-Jammeh that intellectual property is vital to the
>socioeconomic and political development of our country. The jemmeh camp
>should know that these innocent students could have been their own
>brethren.
>It is a sad day in the history of our country to have bigots who only care
>about their self promotion.
>
>Our history has been altered due to lack of concern and disrespect of human
>life. Our friends and family are in terrible state of mind. Our case is a
>tragic illustration of
>fascist and communist maladministration of a dictator who is only concern
>with his own ego. Malafy has a right to keep quiet because he is in no
>position to defend the evil and terror that this lunatic has imposed on the
>Gambian people. We should welcome him to delist from this forum. His
>commentaries or letters have been divisive. We have not lost a Gambian of
>trust, but an individual who is ashamed to face reality.
>
>
>Comrade,
>
>Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh .
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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:52:53 -0400
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Saul,
Your characterization of GPA and GLC is wrong. I suggest you
Verify your information before posting it on the forum.
For now,we need to focus on the aftermath of April 10th & 11th
Massacre of the students and how effective our contribution
Will be as a group.
Your suggestion for raising funds is an excellent idea.
Beran
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Mr. Sidibeh,
Your brilliant piece is a very good overview of the underlying
factors of
our present political quagmire. Some things very obvious to me:
We have to
WALK THE WALK (after all the big talk!) There is no doubt that
we talk a
good game. But that simply isn't enough. To effect any changes,
we have to
put our money where our mouth is! Because irrespective of what
our
individual ideas are regarding how to get rid of the rascals
destroying our
country, the one constant needed is MONEY. Now, how do we get
the needed
money, and what do we do with it?
First, we have to raise money in order to raise money. By this I
mean, those
of us on this List and others outside of it who are cognizant of
the urgent
need to throw out the APRC regime, need to set up a framework
where we can
pool together our resources. My understanding is that we have
about 600
members on this List. If you count out students and others who
cannot afford
to contribute anything, my feeling is you'll still have at least
150 people
who can afford to give something. Now, assuming that each of
those 150
people contribute $20.00 towards a common fund, we'll have
$3,000.00. Hardly
an amount to loose sleep over. But don't despair yet, because
with that
$3,000, we can organize a fundraiser or commercial dance in any
Metro area
(in the US) with a high concentration of Gambians(DC, Atlanta &
NYC are sure
winners,) and easily double the amount. After having just three
such events,
we'll definitely pool well over $15,000! And if adventurous
members like
myself have our way, we'll invest a third of that amount -about
$5,000 in
the Stock Market. Yes the Stock Mkt! If the European side could
pull off a
similar feat, the better. So, do we have 150 members willing to
put down
$20.00 to jump start the idea? I'm willing to challenge anyone!
With that money, we could buy communication equipment for
Opposition parties
back home, or buy them air time on private radio stations to
counter the
constant lies and propaganda that Radio Gambia and Gambia TV
puts out. If
things work according to plan, we could buy stationery for
Gambian schools,
or even school buses. This isn't far fetched at all. It's within
our reach.
But, like a former business prof of mine used to say,
identifying "the"
problem is the same as solving the problem halfway (50%.) What
therefore is
our main stumbling block?
To answer this question, one merely needs to look at the number
of petty
Gambian organizations in the diaspora. Since, I'm a little
familiar with the
US scene, and the Wash DC Metro Area in particular, I'll tell
you what I
know for a fact about the organizations we have here. You can
decide if the
story is familiar or not.
In the DC area, we have the Gambian Foundation. As far as I
know, it's the
oldest Gambian organization in this area. The org is being run
by Ousainou
M'bengue, Soffie Ceesay, and Mbye Sarr. It was the one that
Tombong Saidy
was mainly involved with. Apparently Tombong has used his
association with
this organization as political capital (refer to his interview
with Ebrima
Drammeh of "Who's On" fame on Gambianet.com back in '98/'99.)
His claims
about how he was helping Gambians through this org is to say the
very least
grossly exaggerated. The few that he Tombong has "helped" are
the foolish
people who come to this country (a level playing field by my
judgment,)
refuse to go to school, or hold any job longer than six months,
but then
involve themselves in petty crookery. I fail to see how bailing
such fools
from jail helps the Gambia. But, not to deviate from the gist of
my story,
the Gambia Foundation to it's credit, is the only org in this
area that has
consistently organized demonstrations against all forms of
injustice in the
Gambia - from Korro Ceesay's murder, through Sadibu Hydara's, to
the latest
massacre of our students. The org publishes Jaliba, a news
letter. However,
it is worth mentioning that there has been allegations of
mismanagement/financial impropriety levelled against the group
by some
people. The good thing for the GF is that many of their
accusers are people
of dubious character. I'll touch on this shortly.
Then there is the Gambia People's Association led by Sheik
Jallow, Korro
Sillah and co. Tijan "Eku Bopa" Ceesay features prominently in
the group.
For the life of me, I cannot tell you what this group stands
for. Maybe one
of them will seize this opportunity to do that. All I can tell
you
categorically is that, they used to organize commercial parties
frequently
prior to '96. They do so today with less frequency. What I also
can tell you
is that there's always some type of fracas at their events -90%
of the time
(normally some drunken fool starting a fight or something like
that.) But
then their MC is always conspicuously drunk himself, so no
surprises there.
For some reason, they seem to have a knack for attracting the
underbelly of
the Gambian community in this area. To be blunt, some of the
most degenerate
characters among Gambians belong to that group. I'm talking
about the type
who'd rather buy a car they can ill-afford than spend that money
on some
school; the type who tell you they cannot donate $20.00 to a
Gambian charity
because it would take away from the $100 they plan to spend at
some night
club; the type who rents out the most expensive cars during the
ALD to
impress some brainless shallow girl, when mom and dad would kill
for a bag
of rice back home! You get the picture? Apparently they tried to
amalgamate
with the Gambia Foundation some time ago. Knowing the people in
the two
groups, I'm not surprised that that proposal was a non-starter.
That was
when the allegations against the GF started.
I had gone to see Haddy Mundow, one of the local MoneyGram
(transmit
money home for a fee) biz people back in '98 when Sheik Jallow
walked in. On
Haddy's cupboard were two shields/trophies with the "GPA"
insignia and some
citation written on them. I thought the woman was some sort of
athlete (you
never know with America.) I asked her what I was missing. Before
long, I was
privy to testimony in which all Gambian orgs -but the GPA, are
useless or
divisive. The GF particularly was painted as the domain of three
people who
use the association's tax-exempt status to enrich themselves.
Also that the
GF trio had even gone to the extent of calling the immigration
people on
them. Blah, blah, blah... Now, I'm not good at hiding my
emotions or
shutting up when I feel I'm being lied to. So, despite my wife's
constant
tugging of my shirt to silence me, I threw out some few
questions. Not to
bore you with those details, but both Haddy Mundow and Sheik
Jallow realized
I wasn't buying their story. Here is an org that has been around
for god
knows how long without absolutely nothing to show for it, and
they're
blaming everyone but themselves. Go figure, like they say around
here!
Also, there is the Gambia Support Group of which I am secretary.
Alasana
Samateh of Baltimore is Chairman. The org was founded in '96 to
help the
Gambian community in the US in times of need, and to assist as
many Gambian
high school students as the org can afford with scholarships.
That program
continues. However, the GSG isn't without it's problems. A
combination of
egoistic behavior, pettiness, ineffective leadership, and sheer
indiscipline
has retarded serious attempts to move the org forward. We're
currently in
the throes of a serious lethargy that threatens the very
survival of the
association. Whether the GSG will make it or not depends on a
break from the
past that the association has simply been unable to muster.
And finally, there is the Gambia Leadership Conference led by
Latjor Ndow
and Karamba Touray notably. The GLC is supposed to be the
"umbrella" group.
The only problem is, it's not! A classic idea of an umbrella
group is one
that brings together representatives of all associations under
one "tent"
where they strategize the "larger picture" and filter that info
down to the
parts that form the whole - just like the European parliament.
But what we
have with the GLC is no such thing. Instead, it's merely a case
of people
going around telling those with time to listen that they are the
"umbrella"
group. Is it any wonder that after over two years of existence,
the GLC
neither has the membership nor the resources to do anything
substantive? As
a matter of fact, many people regard the GLC as something of a
joke. It's a
brilliant idea gone awry. For this association to have any kind
of
credibility, the numerous Gambian orgs in this area and around
the country
need to be invited to send Reps who'll then elect a Supreme
Council that
would chart the direction this org needs to take. Otherwise,
this noble idea
will continue to be symbolized by nothing more than an annual
EVENT where a
few intellectuals gather for a few hours in a vain attempt to
preach to a
congregation that neither wants nor appreciates their sermon.
So, no offense
intended Latjor and Karamba, but this GLC thing is a classic
quixotic
venture as it is. Do you want to change it, or do you want to
continue
fooling yourselves that you're the "umbrella" group? The choice
is yours!
One last issue I'd like to touch on, is the ALD annual event.
These
gatherings frankly speaking, have been nothing but money-making
ventures for
a few individual Gambians. In the case of the ALD, the name
needs to go in
my view. Why? Because when one goes to the so-called ALD, it's
for every
reason other than the plight of Africa. One may go there to see
long-lost
friends, to chase after some girl/woman, to enjoy oneself etc,
etc, but the
last thing on one's mind is African Liberation. Now, the Gambia
is the
smallest country on continental Africa. If there is to be a
genuine "African
Liberation Day" in DC, then common sense tells one that our
bigger brothers
ought to be involved. I've asked African friends from Liberia,
Zimbabwe,
Mali, S. Africa, Senegal about this ALD, and the answer is
always "what
ALD?" So, why continue to pretend that this annual event is
about Africa?
What African country, charity, or institution has ever
benefitted from this
ALD? Where in Africa has the proceeds of the past ALD events
been spent?
Where has the profits of the past ALDs gone - PERIOD? Any time
you ask this
question, every one plays dumb! But at the very least, let these
people be
honest for once, and call this event something more appropriate.
Call it
"Gambia week," or "Gambia Family Re-union." Hell, call it
whatever you want,
but stop lying to yourself and others that it's an African
Liberation Day.
The last time I checked, much of Africa remains under the yolk
of home-grown
tyranny. The events of April 10th and 11th in our very own
Gambia bears
testimony to that. So, if for nothing else, it's a little
premature to be
celebrating African Liberation! So if you ALD organizers know
something I
don't, I'm all ears.
So, Mr Sidibeh, there you have the Gambian community in the Wash
DC Metro
area. I've deliberately left out the religious orgs, but the
four orgs
discussed are the main ones Gambian around this end. As you can
see, except
for the GPA, each has something to give. Now, the question is:
how do we
overcome the ego problem, the appetite for corruption, and the
common
indiscipline that are the bane of our society, in order to pool
our
resources to get rid of the cancer that Yaya Jammeh represents.
It's time
for serious introspection. I wish I could have given you a
better picture of
us here, but this is the reality. I'm not re-writing or
doctoring anyone's
history, I'm telling you what I know first hand. The sooner we
throw the
little we can afford together and face Yaya with a concerted
effort, the
better for all of us.
Thanks for your overview, and keep it coming.
Saul.
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On the other hand, there simply isn't regularly or precisely
because The
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Tombong:
That's the biggest lie you could fabricate. The NCP candidate for Eastern
Kombo Constituency was Malanding Prince Sanyang. Malafy knows I am saying
the truth. Remember, Malafy and I are from Faraba Banta.
Tombong, please check your records before you speak. A director of
information, oh what a liar you are. You said you got a masters degree from
Howard. That is also a lie. You only have a B.S. in Political Science.
Comrade,
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Tombong,
You really have a lot of nerve talking about democracy when you are part of a
regime that has been murdering, turturing and abusing the human rights of
Gambians since it's inception, and we are not the only ones who know that.You
do not know the meaning of the word, and you have sold your soul for
something that you will answer for one day soon.
How many people have been murdered Tombong and there has never been a proper
and unbiased investigation, or an investigation, period, despite endless lies
like the version you just found an exvuse to deliver here?.
What were the students demonstrating about if not the very same lack of
justice that is the trademark of this administration?
How many times have there been accusations of human rights abuses that you
have run to this forum to lie about only to have it unresolved, forgotten,
buried? Why? Why would the committer of a crime investigate him or herself?
Let's count:
*Ousman Koro Ceesay, lies about his death and no justice todate.
*Shyngle Nyassi. Your regime claimed they knew nothing about his whereabouts
only to produce him much later when they knew the outcry would not cease, and
oh yes, he was kidnapped in the middle of the night by a bunch of thugs,
acting like the criminals they are, and we all know who they work for. They
also must have laid some heavy torturing on him while he was in detention,
because is he not now in a wheel chair? The tapes of the evidence of torture
inflicted by this regime is all over the World for one and all to see.
*Citizens FM. Your regime wanted to shut the proprietor down just because he
reports the facts as they are. You finally came up with blatant lies to get
rid of that forum of public opinion by bending the law as is your modus
operandi.
*You tried the same with Radio 1 FM just last week. Just ask the American
embassy about that one.Your explanation of that one is a masterpiece that
will go down in the annals of our history.
*The Nigerian oil scandal. More lies and dishonesty. Do we have the answers
to that one yet? Oh yes, that is the one that the bogus coup was supposed to
over-shadow.
*Swindled money from the Taiwan affair, just to name a few. We are still
waiting for transparency and accountability to come to life on all these
instead of being just a word.However judging from the level of intelligence
exhibited by this regime, it is entirely possible that the lot of you
combined do not even know the meaning of that word. Perhaps it just sounds
like a nice word that will make you guys sound like you are smart.
* The bogus coup plots designed to murder more people.Well, just a
continuation of the other excuses that were used to kill before.
*The order to open fire on Gambian children while they were guilty of nothing
more than exercising their rights as provided for by the Constitution. A
Constitution that your regime has turned into toilet paper, and flushed down
the toilet as far as the Gambian people's rights are concerned.
And what do we have in return?
A government who ordered the murder of our children
and all the collaborators, including yourself, the director of the so-called
organ of public opinion, running around inventing all sorts of lies to cover
up the truth.I guess one of your areas to cover is the L huh? It must be that
you are collecting more merits to enhance your meritorious position on the
board of Amnesty International. The Gambian people are in safe hands indeed.
And oh yes, talking about GRTS, i guess you guys have also invented another
version of democracy here, just ask any opposition party member how much time
they have ever been given in that public organ funded by Gambian tax payers.
Why, one look at that alone will tell the World loud and clear that what we
have here is indeed a democracy of the finest order, with all of you as the
untiring guardians of the people's rights.I guess the rest of us just have
not attained that level of higher thinking yet to appreciate this new brand
of justice, fairplay and new order of democratic principles.
We did not expect you to admit that this regime is hunting innocent students
as they run for their lives, because this regime did not even have the
courage to admit to the Gambian people that they committed this murder.
Instead this regime is feigning innocence, asking the people whose children
you murdered to pray, and hiding behind Allah's Quran.
May Allah Ta'ala bring the weight of the punishment that he reserves for the
hypocrites, and outlines in this very Qur'an, in full force on this regime
and it's defenders.
Do you really expect anyone with even half a brain to put any weight in
anything you or the rest of this regime have to say Tombong? I know you do
not even believe that impossibility yourself.Time, experience and the record
has taught us otherwise.
Do not let the outcries about defending your right to be part of this forum
give you steam and fool you into thinking that you can put your role in this
murderous regime behind you forever. I am sure you are smarter than that.
Spare us the continuing lies that you come here to deliver.How do you live
with yourself Tombong????
Do not dare use me again as a stepping stone to deliver more lies to this
forum, or ingratiate yourself to your blood thirsty co-conspirators.
Talking about being a thorn in my side, I promise you that I will be more of
one on yours, trust me.If you think that these sorts of tactics will dissuade
me and others who love our country and our people from letting the World know
about your murderous lies, then think again.
Jabou Joh
Mr. Makaveli & Jabou,
Either you are too drunk with hatred to think properly or you are in the
wrong forum/list. List managers should remind the lady and gentleman that
this forum does not belong to any particular group or faction, be they pro
or anti Jammeh. This is a democratic forum where all views could be heard
and expressed - where we should agree to disagree. You can check with the
managers on how long I have been a member of this list, may be that will
tell you what type of person I am. I am not a quitter and I will be a thorn
on your sides for a long time. If you cannot stand the heat, you might as
well get out of the kitchen.
On a more general note, we all have our different views and political
affiliations and despite our differences, we should respect each other. We
should not allow our differences or divergence of views to blind or cloud
our judgement and thinking process. Let's debate the issues.
Sometimes I am surprise how your hatred of Jammeh can cloud your judgements.
One case in point is a posting that states that the Gambia government is
asking for the repatriation of GAMSU members from Senegal. How many of you,
questioned the validity of this statement? Have some GAMSU members really
fled to Senegal? If the answer is yes, has the Government made any request
for their extradition to The Gambia? Very few bordered to find out whether
this was true or not.
By the way, all the students that were arrested in relation to the April
10th and 11th incident have been release except 6 of them. I will get you
names of these six. However, there are still some non-students still in
detention and these are those who were arrested because they were engaged in
some criminal activities during the demonstration.
Schools will be open April 8th 2000. Schools were supposed to close Friday,
14 April and open 8 April for the Easter Holiday, however they closed
earlier.
This is a difficult period for all Gambains regardless of one's political
inclinations and as we through this healing period, lets endeavour to avoid
such an incident in the future. By next week the Commission of Enquiry will
be set up and it will begin the process of searching for the truth.
Happy Good Friday to all and Happy Easter as well. Some of you will miss the
"NAN MBURU".
PEACE
TOMBONG
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Tombong is campaigning for information minister. The lunatic might give you
the post, but not for long.
Comrade,
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Mr jallow,
Thank you for this letter. We owe it to the Gambian people to play our role.
Jabou Joh
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His Excellency
Mr., Kofi Annan
United Nations Secretary General
United Nations Plaza, Room 3800
New York, New York 10017
Dear Sir:
We heard with dismay, infact with alarm, of your impending trip to the Gambia
ostensibly to inaugurate a new U.N.D.P. Office block. Ordinarily Gambians
everywhere and of all political persuasions would have been honored, jubilant
to receive the Secretary general of the United Nations, distinguished son of
Africa in the Gambia. As things stand now in the Gambia, your visit will only
give comfort, succor and legitimacy to the murderous, obnoxious, corrupt and
morally bankrupt regime.
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My Dear GAMBIA-LERS,
As a concerned and patriotic citizen of our beautiful,
GAMBIA, I must confess that I have been terribly hurt
by what I have been experiencing since I became a
member of JAMMEH'S inner circle. Ever since the coup,
Jammeh's strategy of clinging on to power has been two
fold: (1) Embracing Religion in order to win support
amongst our traditional leaders and elders, and (2) to
give he called "BLACK COFFEE" to opponents or
adversaries. To begin, Jammeh has been embarking on
the plan to build a Mosque in the grounds of our
people's State House. The first time he talked about
the idea of building a Mosque in the State House
grounds, I argued that that may not be a right idea,
since we do not only have Muslims in the country, but
there are Christians and other religion too, who may
also prefer to have their faith observed at State
House; or for instance, if happened to have a
Christian President in years to come, he too might
prefer to have a Church built in the State House
grounds, he even before I concluded my comment, Jammeh
became very bitter and cut me short. He remarked that
a Christian Religion is not a good religion, and all
Christians will go to HELL; he concluded. At that
point, he hated me for that comment, and shubbed me
months. He even think that I was being influenced by
some Christian group. From then on I new that Jammeh
is a commanded and controlled by his ANIMAL(emotional)
part of him.
The animal side of Jammeh is what has been ruling our
beautiful country, The Gambia. Jammeh could be bitter
and harbour bad feelings against any individual she/he
unneccessarily; more significantly, he could just draw
conclusions about any person without finding out what
that person is up to, and he would draw conclusion
about you which becomes unchanged. He is a MEDIOCRE
THINKER, whose faculties is at the level of a PARROT.
This part lead me to my next point, which is giving
BLACK COFFEE to opponents. Because of his lack of
intuition, and Mediocrity, Jammeh is always
uncomfortable when surrounded by intellectuals and
noble citizens. In such circumstances, he will order
the Killing("BLACK COFFEE")of his opponents. His first
BLACK COFFEE was given to our friend and brother, the
late MOMODOU KORO CEESAY, who served as an execllent
Finance Mimister.
It was Jammeh who ordered the shooting of the innocent
children who were demonstrating for justice, justice
for our beloved brother who had been murdered, for a
young 13 year old female student who had also been
raped by Fire servicemen. But instead of following the
law, and offer dialogue to students, Jammeh instead
order his stupid and insane Commander, COL. BABOUCARR
JATTA, to order security forces to shoot and kill
innocent School children. Jammeh believes in giving
BLACK COFFEE to whoever opposes his policies. He uses
BLACK COFFEE to silence opponents. There is a BLACK
COFFEE BOOK in Jammeh's office, which entailed a list
of all those Jammeh feels should be given BLACK COFFEE
in months or even weeks to come.
Now there is only one BLACK cup of Coffee left, which
is reserved for Jammeh himself. We in the GAMBIA
NATIONAL ARMY are sick and tired of excuting the mad
man's BLACK COFFEE ORDERS; and we will liberate our
beautiful country pretty soon. What happened to
PRESIDENT DOE, will be nothing to what Jammeh should
deserve. He was the very one who ordered Col. Jatta
and Interior Minister, Badjie to instruct the Security
forces to give BLACK COFFEE to students. He must pay a
heavy price.
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Your prognosis of Gambian Groups atleast as it pertains to me and the GLC is
incorrect. You presented your analysis as being based on first hand
information. You have never asked me nor have I ever discussed with you my
specific role in GLC. Your deductions about the organization is your
entitlement but I think it is worthwhile for me to tell you how we met on
that day at Howard University. The concept for an umbrella organization was
Latjor Ndow's. He outlined it on Gambia-l and invited anyone interested to
join him on a plenary session to crystallize the concept. I have never met
Latjor prior to this preliminary session. I thought his concept had merit and
I wanted to be part of it. What difference does it make how a good ideas
emanates? You attempt to belittle the entire concept because you erroneously
construe it as being exclusionary. The guy thought it up, put it out and
invited all to work on it. That is n't good enough for you. I can understand
your frustration with the Gambian people's general penchant to be passive to
ideas but stretching that to be a reflection of incompetence or
lacklusterness on the part of someone like Latjor is unfair. Latjor worked
hard and put together a darn good idea. It doesn't matter whether you think
professors or others joining him in improving those ideas in a public forum
to which all were invited including you is somehow still inadequate. What you
have managed to display in your frustration with organizations is a classic
case of self righteousness. Somehow no one is able to measure up to your
ideas of what makes for a good organization. Personally I am interested in
ideas and Latjor has plenty of good ones. Now that you have made it clear his
approach was problematic, I would like to urge you to advance a concept,
organize a forum and invite us all to discuss it. May be we would emerge once
and for all from our perpetual organizational malaise. you can count me in
Karamba
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Mr. Jacques-Jassey-Conteh,
For the sake of decency on Gambia-l and since you seem to have sober-up about calling me names, I'll hold my fire for now. Just be reminded that Mafy has the right to support whoever he wants, and always keep in mind that Mafy doesn't back down from confrontation especially from someone I can write a book on. Good luck on your Presidential ambitions. Ha! Ha! Ha !
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Malafy:
I encourage you to throw out any dirty laundry you know of me. At this
moment, any presidential aspirant should concentrate on kicking the dictator
out of The Gambia. We can have only one presidential candidate against your
lunatic dictator. Unity should be our preamble. We must stay focus and
fight this mad man. Your communist and military style harassment only
convinces me that you have nothing to say. Personality contest is not my
indignation.
Members of the forum know at least who his saying the truth. We want to
engage in substantive discussion about the lack of leadership in The Gambia.
You must be out of reality to even suggest that the dictator will me in The
Gambia forever. Dictator yahya jemus has offended more of his former
supporters than any military lunatic in the history of politics. The people
in Banjul cannot wait to vote him out of office. Remember what he has done
to innocent Gambians, especially those young students who could have been the
progress of our country. Dictator yahya jemus is the worst thing that ever
happened to The Gambia.
If you are willing to engage in a debate about The Gambia, I invite you to
attend one of the forums on 4th of July. Gambians will be able to judge for
themselves about the garbage that is coming out of your mouth. You have a
record to defend. We must be willing to understand that when we disagree in
principle, we must be steadfast to our cause and let Gambians be our
audience. We in the opposition cannot be intimidated by your nearsightedness
and denial of the basic truth. You cannot control the organizers of July
4th, and we in the opposition do not care what you make. We only care about
our country. Please stop publicizing yourself. Let the public do that.
I promise you that your agent John P. Bojang will not be given a free ride in
Atlanta. I will seek to be heard if he is given any opportunity to speak.
The opposition will be doing a disservice for not condemning the slaughter of
innocent Gambians in front of the dictator's uncle. We want to be heard. We
want the truth to be revealed. We are willing to protect what is right for
our country. We will not disappoint any Gambian. Please stay tune on July
4th. Our struggle will never die.
Dictator yahya jemus must go.
Comrade,
Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh
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Just consider this case closed and move on, at least you came to the U.S. and secured a college degree. Hmmm... if you know what I mean!!!
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> > Subject: ALAMMAT YOWM AL KIYAMA
> > Author: "Halima Ali" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 07/04/00 13:52
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> >
> > > >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:44:46 -0800 (PST)
> > > >
> > > >The signs of the Day of Judgement are divided
> into two
> > > >sections.
> > > >
> > 1. The first 'the minor signs', of which began
> > > >from the time of the Prophet Muhammad (S).
> > > >
> > 2. The second 'the major signs', of which will
> > > >appear very close towards the Day of Judgement,
> and when
> > > >last-moment repentance will not be accepted by
> Allah (SWT).
> > > >
> > > > MINOR SIGNS
> > > >
> > >One of the first signs to appear was when the
> > >Prophet(S), with Allah's Will, split the moon in
> half. Some
> > >explanations suggest that the Angel Gabriel
> placed his wing in front of
> > >the moon and therefore gave a splitting
> appearance, and another
> > >explanation believes that the moon did actually
> split;
> > > >
> > > > MAJOR SIGNS
> > > >
> > > -Camels will no longer be used as a means of
> > > >transport;
> > > -People will ride on saddles that aren't
> > > >saddles-cars?
> > > -The distance on earth will become short
> > > -Horses will not be used in wars;
> > > -Muslims will defeat the Byzantines which will
> end
> > > >with the conquest of Constantinople - Istanbul;
> > > >-The Jews will gather again to live in Bilad
> Canaan;
> > > >-Very tall buildings will be built;
> > > >-The disappearance of knowledge and the
> appearance
> > > >of ignorance, with much killing;
> > > -Adultery will become widespread, and the
> drinking
> > > >of wine will become common;
> > > > -The number of men will decrease and the
> number of
> > > > women will increase until there are 50 women
> to be
> > > >looked after by one man;
> > > -Islam will become worn out like clothes are,
> until
> > > >no one will know what fasting, prayer, charity
> and rituals are;
> > > -Allah will send a disease to fornicators that
> will
> > > have no cure (Aids?);
> > > -People will begin to believe in the stars and
> > > >reject
> > > AL QADAR (THE DIVINE DECREE OF DESTINY);
> > > -Men will pass by people's graves and say:
> "Would
> > > >that I were in his place";
> > > > -The Euphrates will uncover a mountain of gold
> for
> > > which people will fight over (the river of
> Alfurat
> > > >that lies near Syria);
> > > > -Two large groups of people will fight one
> another,
> > > >and there will be many casualties; they will
> both be
> > > >following the same religion-(World War II?);
> > -Approximately 30 DAJJALS will appear, each
> one
> > > >claiming to be the messenger of Allah;
> > > -Earthquakes will increase;
> > > -Time will pass quickly;
> > > -Afflictions will appear;
> > > -Killing will increase;
> > > -Wealth will increase;
> > > -Women will be wearing clothes but not wearing
> > > >clothes;
> > > -When a mother gives birth to her mistress -
> (the
> > > >daughter gives orders to her mother);
> > >
> > > >
> > > >THE PROPHET (saw) SAID: "IF MY UMMAH (PEOPLE)
> BEAR 15
> > > TRAIT(QUALITIES), TRIBULATION WILL FOLLOW
> IT." (DAY OF JUDGEMENT)
> > > >SOMEONE ASKED,"WHAT ARE THEY O MESSENGER OF
> ALLAH?" HE
> > > >SAID:
> > > >
> > > >-When any gain is shared out only among the
> rich, with
> > > >no benefit to the poor;
> > > >-When a trust becomes a means of making profit;
> > > >-When paying ZAKKAT becomes a burden;
> > > >-When a man obeys his wife and disobeys his
> mother;
> > > >-And treats his friendly kindly whilst shunning
> his
> > > >father;
> > > >-When voices are raised in the mosque;
> > > >-When the leader of a people is the worst of
> them;
> > > >-When people treat a man with respect because
> they
> > > >fear some evil that he may do;
> > > >-When much wine is drunk; red wind or the earth
> > > >swallow them,or to be transformed into
> > > >animals."
> > > >
> > > >'IMRAN IBN HUSAYN SAID: "THE PROPHET (AS) SAID,
> 'SOME
> > > >PEOPLE OF THIS UMMAH WILL BE SWALLOWED
> > > >BY THE EARTH, TRANSFORMED INTO ANIMALS, AND
> SOME
> > > >WILL BE BOMBARDED WITH STONES'.
> > > >
> > > >ONE OF THE MUSLIMS ASKED, 'WHEN WILL THAT BE
> O
> > > >MESSENGER OF ALLAH?'
> > > >HE SAID, 'WHEN SINGERS AND MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS
> WILL
> > > >BECOME POPULAR, AND MUCH WINE IS DRUNK.'"
> > > >
> > > >THE GREATER SIGNS OF THE HOUR
> > > >
> > > >-The Quran will disappear in one night,even
> from the
> > > >people's hearts,and no Ayyah will be
> > > >left on earth. (Some groups of old people
> will be
> > > >left who will say:"We heard of fathers'
> > > >saying
> > > >"LA-ILLAHA-ILLA -ALLAH" so we repeat it)
> > > >-The appearance of the MAHDI;
> > > >-The appearance of the DAJJAL (Anti Christ);
> > > >-The appearance of Ya'juj and Ma'juj (biblical
> Gog
> > > >and Magog);
> > > >-Isa (Jesus) will come during the time of
> Dajjal;
> > > >-The rising of the sun from the west;
> > > >-The destruction of the Ka'ba and the recovery
> of its
> > > >treasures;
> > > >-The smoke.
> > > >
> > > >Now you have two options here:
> > > >
> > > >1. let this e-mail sit in your mailbox. No
> curse or
> > > >whatever may happen to you (Insha-Allah)
> > > >
> > > >2. Forward this e-mail to a number of people
> you know
> > > >and by the grace of Allah you will
> > > >be blessed for each person you forward
> this
> > > >e-mail to (Insha-Allah).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >Manchester University Islamic Society (MUISOC)
> > > >
> > > >Subhaanaka- llaahumma wa bihamdika. Ashhadu
> alla
> > > >ilaaha illa ant. Astaghfiruka wa atoobu ilayk.
> > > >All praise be to You, O Allaah. I testify that
> there
> > > >is none worthy of worship but you. I seek your
> > > >Repentance & I Repent to You.
> > > >
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YAYA MUST
RESIGN
The most logical course of action now is for the
immediate removal of Yaya Jammeh from office. Gambians
do not need to wait for any time-buying investigation
or inquest on something that is evidently clear to
every honest living person, Gambian or non-Gambian.
Anymore minute wasted would tantamount to making the
Gambians ever look like the slaughterable beasts Yaya
termed them to be or the conforming sheep roped by the
butcher. For him to masquerade behind an ayatollah’s
image, quoting the holy Quaran here and there and
acting as if he was not in charge of the direct orders
is enough a deceptive crime for him to face a firing
squad.
The real Yaya we know was not the one the Gambians saw
on TV the last time. He does not talk or act like the
way he pretended and he cannot write good English like
that either. He therefore must have as usual hopped in
bed with one of his intellectual prostitutes and was
provided with something fairly sensible to read. At
least that did save him from saying more stupid things
than those who were trying to justify the terrible
massacre in the first days.
There is no doubt that he was directly responsible for
the order to shoot and kill; and most likely, he might
have also been responsible for advising Isatou Njie
Saidy and Ousman Badjie to tell those criminal lies
during their first press release. As for those two,
including Baboucarr Jatta, they are certainly guilty
of carrying out an unlawful order of the worst kind in
history- the killing of unarmed school children. They
must be punished for it.
Anyway when criminals commit grave crimes, they
always unconsciously leave an incriminating trail that
when scrutinized, is often very visible to the
ordinary eye of honest observers. Invariably, lies
told to hide criminal actions are generally punctuated
by hidden flaws that could lead to the actual truth
when followed objectively. Take for instance the
ridiculous lie that the freed criminals in the police
stations broke into the police armories and got the
weapons they used to kill the children. Look at the
logic behind that. By standard operational procedures
(SOP) there is nowhere in this world where both arms
and ammunitions are kept in the same armory. So it
means that the criminals were either sitting on their
ammunition boxes while on detention waiting for the
incident to occur or, they also found the police
ammunition store which they broke into and stole the
bullets they used. Naturally both stories would not
have made any sense if they had attempted to explain
where the bullets came from after the guns were taken.
The criminals could not have been under detention with
any kinds of ammunition; and I found it absolutely
impossible that at that spontaneous and chaotic
situation, those escaping criminals could be so crafty
or thoughtful to arm them selves properly. It beats
any intelligent person’s mind to imagine the criminals
breaking into the armories first and then breaking
into the ammunition stores, getting the magazines,
loading and unlocking the weapons and then finally
launching into the streets for the singular purpose of
just shooting at the children. Hello, what were they
trying to tell us? Naturally the lies could not be
sustained for too long because the very Gambians who
witnessed it saw the whole killings done by the
security forces using live bullets from AK47 assault
rifles. It only reminded me of all those lies told
after the killings of innocent Gambians orchestrated
by Yaya in the past.
However the worst lie that made me really disgusted
with Isatou Njie, Ousman Badjie and Baboucarr Jatta
was the rubber-bullet gun story. I know the weapon
inventory in the Gambia Army the way I know my
fingers. Starting from Yundum, Kartong, Farafenni,
Kudang to Basse, none of the armories there have a
single rubber-bullet gun. There are only eight or ten
old ones at the Fajara barracks armory, which the
police usually borrow when raiding criminal hideouts.
That is to further say that even the police do not
have them at all. So where the heck did they get those
guns? Were they from the armory of Yaya’s “Allah”?
In 1996 there was a minor demonstration by the Muslim
high school children about their right to use the
Fajara beach when the police tried to deny them access
to enjoy the tourist resort. The police in tackling
that situation beat and arrested some children. Barely
24 hours after, Yaya removed from office the Inspector
General of Police Gibril Joof, a senior operation
commander Turo Jawneh and I think the school
authorities also got some share of the punishment.
Yaya had accused the police and the school principle
for being too high-handed on the children. That is the
typical style of Yaya’s reaction to such national
crisis in genera. If he was not guilty he would have
instantly started dismissing, arresting, re-deploying,
swearinr to bury people six-foot deep and above all
wearing his frightening killer- baboon face.
This time however despite the fact that the whole
country somehow pointed the accusing finger to Badjie
and Jatta in particular, Yaya came and masqueraded as
a pious Ayatollah, quoting the Quaran and talking as
if his absence during the massacre should exonerate
him altogether. Yet he would not comment on the
public’s demand to punish the executioners. People I
spoke to in the Gambia me surprising reports about how
Yaya looked absolutely pitiful on TV, his face changed
like an honest person telling the truth from his
heart. However, as some one rightly put it, in this
desperate moment if those accused were not Jattas and
Badjies, but Ceesays, Manjangs, Jallows, or Jobes,
Yaya would have appeared in his true demonic colors
huffing and puffing, dismissing and arresting
everywhere with little or no consideration for initial
investigations. Did he not act like that in the last
dubious coup? How many people were victimized since
then without investigation?
But in the final analysis, he could not act because he
ordered Isatou Njie Saidy, Ousman Badjie and Baboucarr
Jatta to open fire on the kids and kill as many as
possible. Those of us who know the way Yaya runs his
government, whenever he travels, he is given minute by
minute report of all the activities taking place in
the country regardless of how trivial they may seem,
much more when they it was that big this time. In fact
my intelligence sources told me that he gave the order
to shoot the kids the day before, when he was leaving
for Cuba and was told that the school children were
going to hold the demonstration by force after they
were denied a permit.
This is not the first time he gave such evil orders.
After the Kartong attack on the 21st July 1997, he
sent the late Almamo Manneh and some of his Former
State Guard thugs to the army headquarter with an
order that the captured Lieutenants- L.F.Jammeh,
Alieu Bah and Jarju-must be executed forthwith. At
first we thought the guards were joking, but when Yaya
in a nasty mood called from the State House insisting
that the captured soldiers must be killed to set
examples we refused to carry out those unlawful
orders. We told him that killing them was out of it,
but if he wanted to do it by him self we should sign a
paper with him for their formal hand over. At last he
relented. If we had carried out that order he perhaps
would have turned around tomorrow and say that he was
not aware.
Baboucarr Jatta has said it over and over that on the
13th of November 1994, although Yaya was at the State
House the afternoon Lt. Saye and the other officers
were killed, the final order to kill them came from
Yaya. He said that the final order came through a
telephone call he made to Edward Singhateh. And Jatta
further said that because he was the one trying to
stop the killing, Yaya was so upset with him that he
decided to snubbed him for almost a month. Haven’t we
learnt that Yaya blessed the killing of Koro Ceesay at
the airport the night before? Yet when he returned, he
went to see Koro’s parents and even shed crocodile
tears there pretending to be sympathetic to the family
and promising to leave no stone unturned to catch the
culprits. Given some little time, Baboucarr Jatta
would soon start disclosing in dinner tables how they
were ordered by Yaya to kill the children. He would of
course make it looked as if everybody but himself was
a party to the crime. Three things are known about the
Chief of Staff’s odd character: he eats a lot, sleeps
excessively and could easily spill his guts out if he
is not hungry or sleepy.
So Gambians enough is enough. If this great chance to
remove this monster out of office is not taken and we
play by his tricks until things are neutralized the
way Yaya is hoping now, then I can bet that the next
disaster would be too much to handle and might destroy
the country forever. So come together in a common
voice and force him out before it is too late. Start
thinking about the date to start the civil
disobedience for Yaya to resign for killing our dear
children. The whole world is behind the families of
the dead children. We will help in every to support
the move to its success. And believe in me, it is
going to be far more easy that you may think. I am
glad that every decent Gambian at home and abroad is
also behind the families of the kids.
We cannot wait for his removal so that we could build
a memorial site that would remain a permanent reminder
to everybody in the Gambia about the evil day of the
10th of April, the year 2000. It would also be a
reminder of the period when the Gambia was ruled by
Yaya Abdulasis Jamus Hunkung Jammeh, a fake doctor,
fake colonel, fake Alhagie and very low life scum’my.
Ebou Colly
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Sheikh Tejan
I have a neubilizer which I can donate to Sarjo. My 8 year old was asthmatic
at age 2 and he has not had any episodes...
It requires the medication and a converter due to the voltage system for
Gambia.
In fact Gibou Njie was my neighbor at Bakoteh and if you wish I can get in
touch with him.... I can get it to him by May 5th Insha Allah.
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I do hope that recent events in the Gambia will change the dynamics of this
coming ALD, compared to the egocentric and divisive...'KOTOH YI AK HALEH YI'
generated by some selfish individuals, who only cared for groupings instead
of the Gambian community at large. I remembered ALD's during the early 80's
and nineties, when Gambia's yearned for graduations and ALD thereafter, not
now. It became a turnoff for most Gambia's including myself, who would only
attend the symposium at Howard U and that would be it....need no further
explanation. Please get your efforts together by being sincere, respectful
and focused on the issues confronting us, instead of what's dividing us
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Mr. Janneh,
I know that Tombong is not being removed from the List yet. However, there
was a writer/writers who called for his removal. That was my concern.
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UNCLE TOM BOY SAIDY, are the spokeboy of Yahya Jammeh, or just a lackey and
tyrant at the disinformation service unit of GRTS? Aren't you the same guy
that's still defending the regime on Koro's murder? I swear to god, you'll be
in a worst situation than Balla or Blaise when Yahya Jammeh is finished with
you. when you came to the USA with Yahya, we know that you paid your own
airfare, just to be around them, hence sidelining the protocol officer. You
are a wise fool who doesn't know how most of your compatriots despise your
cunning, snitchy, reptillian and provacative nature. Who provided the
"OPERATION LOOKOUT" list of Gambians to the NIA, if not you? WHO? The biggest
mistake Gambian's in the USA made about you was to grant you a host of forums
in different states, where red flags should've been popping up, warning us
about your true colors. Brother, please ceased from the selective myopia
and amnesia sufferings you endowed yourself with, as your job is a political
appointment, which you never deserved anyway.... debate me on your
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Karamba,
You're taking my critique the wrong way, but before we get lost in petty
"you said, you said," I want you to tell me where I'm wrong. You haven't
done that at all. So:
1. Am I wrong in saying that Latjor and Karamba are the two notable members
of the GLC. The only GLC function I attended was chaired by you Karamba
Touray. When I ask around about the GLC, people always say to talk to either
Latjor or Karamba. If you were just doing Latjor a favor by moderating the
'99 session, then things are even worse than I had realized. But say what
your role or status is.
2. Is my contention that the GLC in reality is an "umbrella" only in name
wrong? That no Gambian org neither recognizes nor defers to the GLC for
guidance or consultation. If I'm wrong in this assertion, name me one
Gambian org that is under the GLC "umbrella."
I subscribe to the idea of an umbrella group, and I'll urge you to go back
and read again what I've written, 'cause you're raising issues that I
neither said nor implied. I could care less how the idea of an umbrella
group came into being. The originator of the idea is less relevant than the
idea itself. I've only been a member of the G-L for the past seven/eight
months, so I wasn't aware of Latjor's original invitation. I learnt of the
idea of this "umbrella" from Dr. Sulayman Nyang back in Feb '98. The first
conference had coincided with Julie Baldeh's (the diplomat) birthday. Jewru,
the husband who I'm friends with, invited me. Dr. Nyang was really
enthusiastic about the idea at the time, but his feeling that night was
exactly along the lines I've outlined in my critique. It's basic
commonsense. If you want to bring together many orgs under one tent, then
you have to get each one involved in the planning, strategizing, and
implemention of the goals of the "umbrella." Any other approach would be
futile, and that's exactly what we have here. So what in the world don't you
understand about that Karamba?
I have no idea where you're getting the idea that I'm "be-littling" the idea
of an umbrella group. I said (the GLC as it is, )"is a noble idea gone
awry"! Go back and read my posting again. About whether the GLC was
exclusionary in it's approach, you should know that. I won't. See, I wasn't
even a member of the Gambia Support Group at the time the GLC was formed.
So, I wouldn't know about any invitations to that group. So, don't get any
funny ideas there. "I" certainly wasn't invited if you're using "you" like
in I as a person.
And about Latjor's "incompetence," or "lacklusterness," you can do better
than that Karamba! I simply don't know where you're getting that idea. If
there's a problem I've alluded to regarding the GLC, it's the Charles Taylor
syndrome: "I've started this, so I'll be in control at all cost." You are
free to make your own deductions, but I've neither said nor implied that
Latjor or anyone involved with the GLC is incompetent. What I've highlighted
and what you've failed to address is my assertion that the GLC has
absolutely NO CREDIBILITY as an umbrella group. As a matter of fact, the GLC
is no more "umbrella" than I am the prophet Muhammed! That remains the
painful truth! I did not create your reality. You can continue to peddle
this false image that the GLC is an umbrella group. That's your prerogative.
In conclusion, if Karamba Touray has nothing to do with the GLC, and was
merely doing Latjor Ndow a favor by moderating sessions at GLC conferences,
then say that, and I'll spread the word around because no one else seems to
know that. Otherwise, I offer no apologies to you or anyone for that matter
for drying our dirty laundry in "public." I've been out of the lying
business a long time ago. I won't compromise that for you. I try to be as
realistic as possible with both my own problems and others I care about. We
can agree or disagree on what the aim of this "umbrella" is, but what is
obvious to anyone with eyes to see, is that this GLC is another white
elephant Gambian org that is mired in, or at least held hostage by egotism,
and thus failing woefully to live up to expectations. Talk about wasted
opportunities! You're right about my frustrations with Gambians generally.
Some day, I hope to write a book entitled "The Problem with Gambians." You
may not like what you read, but you can call me everything but a liar. So,
call it "self-righteousness" or whatever you want. Your choice. But I'd
still like to know what I'm wrong about.
I've had calls from the heads of two orgs I've mentioned in my piece. What
they told me is the diametrical opposite of what you're saying here. So,
maybe the fact that some people are owning up to their short-comings is a
good sign. So, no hard feelings Karamba, we've known each other for a while
now, but you're most welcome to continue that most comical of traditions:
being Don Quixote's disciple. There's nothing more delusionary than grown
people walking around pretending to be what they're not. We have a problem
confronting Yaya Jammeh precisely because of this attitude of every
nincompoop forming a meaningless org just to nurse his/her ego. That isn't
just frustrating, it's darn irritating. And if I see it, I'll highlight it.
Good night.
Saul.
>Your prognosis of Gambian Groups atleast as it pertains to me and the GLC
>is
>incorrect. You presented your analysis as being based on first hand
>information. You have never asked me nor have I ever discussed with
>Your prognosis of Gambian Groups atleast as it pertains to me and the GLC
>is
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Tombong,
Why border with people you definitely know has nothing to say but talk
rubbish. Most of the people in this forum just enjoy to be heard. All they do
is TALK TALK TALK and nothing but TALK. We need actions.
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Mafy,
Please back-off from this name calling game. We need some role-models to look
up to.
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Beran,
I don't want to distract attention from "the" issue we ought to be occupied
with, but I was trying to give Mr. Sidibeh and others who care to know the
pathetic story regarding our state of affairs - anywhere Gambians are.
Because I know for a fact that Gambians in the DC area are a mirror image of
Gambians in the diaspora. Thus our sorry state. Now, since I'm wrong in my
characterization of the GLC and the GPA according to you, I want you to tell
me where I'm wrong in my assertion. I'd like to apologize to the GLC and the
GPA, but I need to know where I'm wrong.
Saul.
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Mr. Sidibeh,
Thank you for the lecture. We need to document our history so that
generations after us will not find themselves lost about the evolution of
their
society.
I particularly liked your suggestion for a Global Gambian Organization.
Am not
sure how much you know about American Immigrant groups; out here they have
The Cuban American Group, The Chinese American Group, The Haitian American
Group, just to name a few. The purpose of these groups are not merely
restricted to
politics. they function as interest groups which actively lobby for the
promotion of democracy, cultural education, human, physical and financial
advancement of their societies.
You are right in saying that Gambians are generally naive. The outcry
for the formation of an organization or a grass-root political party to look
for ways to democratically paralyze the Jammeh government have been met with
disinterest.
I hope that everyone on the list will print your email and carefully
read it.
Please keep these postings coming. through continued education, we will
someday come to understand who we are, what we stand for, where we are headed
and how to get there.
Thank You.
Matarr Sajaw.
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Tombong,
Whilst thanking you for the all the updates since the tragic events of April
10-11 in The Gambia, I must express doubt as to the legitimacy for the
continuos detention of the six students mentioned in one of your postings. If
that regime dare arrest and detain school kids why is it taking you guys so
long to arrest the hooligans who opened fire on the kids. What is this regime
doing to arrest the bandits--don't let think that this investigation is one
sided nor should Gambians be fooled that this investigation would take the
same course as that of Koro Sisay and the recent fabricated coup plot leading
to the death of a senior army officer.
Listen Tombong--we were classmates in St. Augustine's (Sixth Form) and I have
always had high regards for you. Please stay away from this regime, if you
can in other to maintain your integrity. Our experience in the last six years
is by far more nasty, bloody and painful than any nation has ever experienced
not even Idi Amin was so miserable. Gambians no longer have confidence in
this government and all we ask of the regime is to STEP DOWN.
Mohammed
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Saul,
Could you please spare us from this topic? I don't think your criticism is
constructive at all. You can do a better job than the way you presented your
case. What kind of recognition do you think Latjor or Karamba for that
matter is seeking from being part of such a nonprofit organization? It will
definitely not earn them money nor will it give them a job if used on their
resumes. So I don't understand why you are hating these gentlemen for being
patriotic.
Please let's stop hating, and start working together.
You seemed to be a smart gentleman, so use your skill help solve the
problems we have in hand rather than starting one.
HAPPY EASTER TO YOU ALL.
Mba
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What ever investigation Yaya's Government does on the killing of our
School children for the April 10.2000. He the butcher man must resign.
Gambian don't like a leader like his kind. Yaya had been killing since 1994.
Enough is enough, Gambia would like to save all of it's citizen for the
future development.Sometime i wonder if Yaya knows where our country is
heading under his leadership. Yaya is the very one who stand in front of the
whole country and say (if any one doesn't want his leadership, he will kill
you and put you 6 feet deep. I could still remember last "KORITA" whe yaya
call our religious leaders at the state house and tell them to send the
message to the Gambians that if we don't support him, all our children are
going to die. Because he can kill and nothing will come out of it. So he did
it to our children on the 10 April 2000. YAYA WE THE GAMBIANS WOULD LIKE YOU
TO STOP YOUR KILLING AND ANSWER TO ALL THE KILLING YOU HAVE DONE SINCE 1994
TAKEOVER. YOU MUST RESIGN IMMEDIATELY.
Thanks saidy
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Ya Fatou ,
Thank a million times. Contact him directly. May Allah bless you.
Chi Jamma,
Bro Sheikh Tejan Nyang.
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> I have a neubilizer which I can donate to Sarjo. My 8 year old was asthmatic
> at age 2 and he has not had any episodes...
> It requires the medication and a converter due to the voltage system for
> Gambia.
> In fact Gibou Njie was my neighbor at Bakoteh and if you wish I can get in
> touch with him.... I can get it to him by May 5th Insha Allah.
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> Best wishes
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Malafy:
Thanks for your endorsement. I am still waiting for the book you are going
to write about me. Gambians will judge us both. Your tactics will not deter
me from criticizing the dictator in The Gambia.
Dictator yahya jemus must go.
Comrade,
Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh
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Malafy:
I am proud of my accomplishments. I not only have a B.S., but an MBA with
accounting concentration. I like what I am doing. The struggle continues.
Dictator yahya jemus must go.
Comrade,
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Saul,
I find your analysis very disturbing simply because, there have been a lot
of misrepresentation of facts. I know the state of affairs in the DC area is
not the most desirable, however I do not think your analysis paints the
correct picture. The second troubling aspect is what you claimed to have
been said by Haddy Mundow. Even if it is true that she said so, I do not
think exposing it will help in bring the unity we are all looking for in
the DC area in particular and among Gambians in the Diaspora in general.
You are right by pointing out that the Gambia Foundation is the oldest
organisation in the DC Metropolitan Area. I still believe that its ideals
are very high and stand to do a lot for Gambians both at home and abroad.
The Gambia Foundation was the only registered Gambian Organisation with
legal status and proper bank account (used to bank with the Riggs Bank). Had
it not been for selfish individuals with anterior motives, this would have
been the only organisation in the area or at least the umbrella organisation
because it is there for the interest of every Gambian despite the political,
tribal, professional differences. It is unfortunate that around 1995 & 96,
other organisations began cropping up.
You mentioned that the Gambia Foundation publishes the JALIBA. I beg to
differ on this. The JALIBA is older than the Gambia Foundation and as far as
I can remember, it has nothing to do with the Foundation. However it
happened that the persons (Ousainou Mbenga and myself) who were publishing
the JALIBA were also among the founding members of the Foundation. I fully
remembered the fact the we agreed not to merge the two since the JALIBA was
at the time seen as an anti-Jawara paper while we have some members of the
Gambia Foundation who were pro-Jawara. One case in point was Muhammadu
Jawara (Jawara Bread), who played very important roles in the early days of
the Foundation. In the beginning we used our own funds to pay for the rent
(we had an office on Georgia Avenue, NW DC), registration and other costs.
We used to publish our annual accounts as well. But the JALIBA was never
part of the Gambia Foundation. I do not know whether things have changed now
and it became absorbed in to the Foundation or vice versa. I will not get
into the other things you said since they are subjective judgements and
would not get us any where.
I cannot comment much on the other organisations because most of them came
into existence in my absence and the information I have on them are all
second hand and not adequate to give a proper judgement or analysis.
Despite the existence of numerous organisations in the DC area, I think
there is still room for one umbrella organisation accepted by all. The
success of such an organisation should be based on the following:
1. An APOLITICAL organisation. Should accommodate all and everyone.
2. Should be seen to represent the interest of all Gambians and should be
seen to be making a difference in their lives.
3. All members should elect the leadership at an agreed interval.
I believe, Gambians around the DC area should have a town meeting to look
into all the existing organisation with the aim of coming with one umbrella
organisation. My recommendation would be for the Gambia Foundation to be
embraced by all Gambians and amend the constitution as seen to be necessary.
I am recommending the Gambia Foundation because it already has a good track
record and is legally recognised by the US Government. All we have to do is
to look into it with the aim of adjusting certain things and may be give it
a face lift, if there is a need for it, to make it the ultimate Gambian
Organisation in the DC Area.
I hope the incidents of 10 & 11 April would galvanise all Gambians in the DC
area in particular and the Diaspora in general to come up with a more
permanent organisation. The ALD is a gold mind if exploited to the fullest.
I can see an organisation raising up to $50, 000 during the ALD weekend
alone. It is a shame that anytime some body dies or is in trouble with law,
we run around collecting few dollars here and there ("lu waye am teh attan")
instead of using the funds and services of an organisation. With the
existence of a proper and accepted organisation by all, Gambian in the DC
area could make their voices heard in the various local legislatures and
councils, and would receive certain subsidies they deserve.
There are a lot of good, mature and experience Gambians in the DC area and
if one could bring them together under one roof, a lot could be done in
solving the this nagging problem once and for all.
PEACE
TOMBONG
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Watch out guys. Tombong knows that he has one foot in hell and is looking to
place the other one somewhere else so that he can have a haven to go to when
the roof comes tumbling down. I hardly think that someone who has a blood
stained dagger against our people in one hand is in a position to tell
Gambians anywhere what is best for them.Please save us the hypocrisy.
To borrow a phrase from Dr Saine, no justice, no peace, and your role will
not be overlooked no matter what. Remember that.
Jabou Joh
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<< Saul,
I find your analysis very disturbing simply because, there have been a lot
of misrepresentation of facts. I know the state of affairs in the DC area is
not the most desirable, however I do not think your analysis paints the
correct picture. The second troubling aspect is what you claimed to have
been said by Haddy Mundow. Even if it is true that she said so, I do not
think exposing it will help in bring the unity we are all looking for in
the DC area in particular and among Gambians in the Diaspora in general.
You are right by pointing out that the Gambia Foundation is the oldest
organisation in the DC Metropolitan Area. I still believe that its ideals
are very high and stand to do a lot for Gambians both at home and abroad.
The Gambia Foundation was the only registered Gambian Organisation with
legal status and proper bank account (used to bank with the Riggs Bank). Had
it not been for selfish individuals with anterior motives, this would have
been the only organisation in the area or at least the umbrella organisation
because it is there for the interest of every Gambian despite the political,
tribal, professional diffe >>
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while you are in your arresting spree, why don't you arrest the people who
ordered the shooting and the people who were doing the shooting ...you
yourself confirmed that the 'security' forces were never shot at
....therefore, they were not shooting to protect life .... and is your
attorney general going to follow up and appoint an independent prosecutor
who would no doubt lead us to the real culprit that ordered the shooting
.....if you appoint a rubber stamp commission of inquiry no one will buy it
....the feet dragging and lies that motivated the students to act on April
10 will send them to the streets again .....and while u enjoy your nan
mburu, think about the blood and the guts your government spilt on April 10
.....we'll never forget this or allow you to forget it.
KB
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>Mr. Makaveli & Jabou,
>
>Either you are too drunk with hatred to think properly or you are in the
>wrong forum/list. List managers should remind the lady and gentleman that
>this forum does not belong to any particular group or faction, be they pro
>or anti Jammeh. This is a democratic forum where all views could be heard
>and expressed - where we should agree to disagree. You can check with the
>managers on how long I have been a member of this list, may be that will
>tell you what type of person I am. I am not a quitter and I will be a thorn
>on your sides for a long time. If you cannot stand the heat, you might as
>well get out of the kitchen.
>
>On a more general note, we all have our different views and political
>affiliations and despite our differences, we should respect each other. We
>should not allow our differences or divergence of views to blind or cloud
>our judgement and thinking process. Let's debate the issues.
>
>Sometimes I am surprise how your hatred of Jammeh can cloud your
>judgements.
>One case in point is a posting that states that the Gambia government is
>asking for the repatriation of GAMSU members from Senegal. How many of you,
>questioned the validity of this statement? Have some GAMSU members really
>fled to Senegal? If the answer is yes, has the Government made any request
>for their extradition to The Gambia? Very few bordered to find out whether
>this was true or not.
>
>By the way, all the students that were arrested in relation to the April
>10th and 11th incident have been release except 6 of them. I will get you
>names of these six. However, there are still some non-students still in
>detention and these are those who were arrested because they were engaged
>in
>some criminal activities during the demonstration.
>
>Schools will be open April 8th 2000. Schools were supposed to close Friday,
>14 April and open 8 April for the Easter Holiday, however they closed
>earlier.
>
>This is a difficult period for all Gambains regardless of one's political
>inclinations and as we through this healing period, lets endeavour to avoid
>such an incident in the future. By next week the Commission of Enquiry will
>be set up and it will begin the process of searching for the truth.
>
>Happy Good Friday to all and Happy Easter as well. Some of you will miss
>the
>"NAN MBURU".
>
>PEACE
>
>TOMBONG
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colleagues Aji Fatou Sallah of Banjul told our reporter that the =
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Mba, Saul, Karamba,
I hope you all read what Aunty Jabou has posted before all of you continue
with this topic. We all have a lot to say on this, but I don't think now is
the right time. Please, let us concentrate on the issue and we have all after
Jemus to talk about such. I am just pleading with all of you. PLEASE.
By the way, a meeting was scheduled for this Saturday in the DC area and it
was agreed that the venue will be announced. What is going on? Could someone
please update us.
Ousman Bojang.
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What is going on? I am unable to read any latest news. The most recent news
there was since 4/17/00. I hope it is all well?
Ousman Bojang.
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i didn't know people were born with college degrees. or should i reframe it and say when was it that people started getting college degrees in their mother's wombs? would you guys start acting like grown ups and stop this kindergarten games? if you have punches to pull at each other why don't you direct it each other's private mail box.
let me be excused for my intrusiveness
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My Dear sir,
I have the highest regards for you, I even wish that
You could have been the president, replacing this
stupid dumb president whose five faculties always
malfunction. What you are pointing out is absolutely
vivid; every officer in the Army hates this idiot. The
time has now ripe to act and get this boogoos of our
beautiful country. And believe in me, even Chief of
Staff Babucarr Badjie who executed Jammeh's BLACK
COFFEE ORDERS is sick and tired of those orders. He is
just scared not to act. But the Chief of Staff is
alone in this situation. None of us in the Army
supported this orders. In fact, If the Chief of Staff
has the guts, he could given us the orders to close
the Airport and prevented the boogoos from landing,
but he was scared. One of the officers even suggested
to him that, but he declined. I only hope he would not
inturn expose that patriotic officer.
Finally, Ebou Colly, we commend you for what you are
doing. You have not only enlightened we the officers
in the Army, but also enlightened and educated all
Gambians. Now the ball is in our court to act. And we
will act pretty soon.
Landing Jatta.
--- ebou colly <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> YAYA
> MUST
> RESIGN
>
> The most logical course of action now is for the
> immediate removal of Yaya Jammeh from office.
> Gambians
> do not need to wait for any time-buying
> investigation
> or inquest on something that is evidently clear to
> every honest living person, Gambian or non-Gambian.
> Anymore minute wasted would tantamount to making the
> Gambians ever look like the slaughterable beasts
> Yaya
> termed them to be or the conforming sheep roped by
> the
> butcher. For him to masquerade behind an ayatollah’s
> image, quoting the holy Quaran here and there and
> acting as if he was not in charge of the direct
> orders
> is enough a deceptive crime for him to face a firing
> squad.
>
> The real Yaya we know was not the one the Gambians
> saw
> on TV the last time. He does not talk or act like
> the
> way he pretended and he cannot write good English
> like
> that either. He therefore must have as usual hopped
> in
> bed with one of his intellectual prostitutes and was
> provided with something fairly sensible to read. At
> least that did save him from saying more stupid
> things
> than those who were trying to justify the terrible
> massacre in the first days.
>
> There is no doubt that he was directly responsible
> for
> the order to shoot and kill; and most likely, he
> might
> have also been responsible for advising Isatou Njie
> Saidy and Ousman Badjie to tell those criminal lies
> during their first press release. As for those two,
> including Baboucarr Jatta, they are certainly guilty
> of carrying out an unlawful order of the worst kind
> in
> history- the killing of unarmed school children.
> They
> must be punished for it.
>
> Anyway when criminals commit grave crimes, they
> always unconsciously leave an incriminating trail
> that
> when scrutinized, is often very visible to the
> ordinary eye of honest observers. Invariably, lies
> told to hide criminal actions are generally
> punctuated
> by hidden flaws that could lead to the actual truth
> when followed objectively. Take for instance the
> ridiculous lie that the freed criminals in the
> police
> stations broke into the police armories and got the
> weapons they used to kill the children. Look at the
> logic behind that. By standard operational
> procedures
> (SOP) there is nowhere in this world where both arms
> and ammunitions are kept in the same armory. So it
> means that the criminals were either sitting on
> their
> ammunition boxes while on detention waiting for the
> incident to occur or, they also found the police
> ammunition store which they broke into and stole the
> bullets they used. Naturally both stories would not
> have made any sense if they had attempted to explain
> where the bullets came from after the guns were
> taken.
> The criminals could not have been under detention
> with
> any kinds of ammunition; and I found it absolutely
> impossible that at that spontaneous and chaotic
> situation, those escaping criminals could be so
> crafty
> or thoughtful to arm them selves properly. It beats
> any intelligent person’s mind to imagine the
> criminals
> breaking into the armories first and then breaking
> into the ammunition stores, getting the magazines,
> loading and unlocking the weapons and then finally
> launching into the streets for the singular purpose
> of
> just shooting at the children. Hello, what were they
> trying to tell us? Naturally the lies could not be
> sustained for too long because the very Gambians who
> witnessed it saw the whole killings done by the
> security forces using live bullets from AK47 assault
> rifles. It only reminded me of all those lies told
> after the killings of innocent Gambians orchestrated
> by Yaya in the past.
>
> However the worst lie that made me really disgusted
> with Isatou Njie, Ousman Badjie and Baboucarr Jatta
> was the rubber-bullet gun story. I know the weapon
> inventory in the Gambia Army the way I know my
> fingers. Starting from Yundum, Kartong, Farafenni,
> Kudang to Basse, none of the armories there have a
> single rubber-bullet gun. There are only eight or
> ten
> old ones at the Fajara barracks armory, which the
> police usually borrow when raiding criminal
> hideouts.
> That is to further say that even the police do not
> have them at all. So where the heck did they get
> those
> guns? Were they from the armory of Yaya’s “Allah”?
>
> In 1996 there was a minor demonstration by the
> Muslim
> high school children about their right to use the
> Fajara beach when the police tried to deny them
> access
> to enjoy the tourist resort. The police in tackling
> that situation beat and arrested some children.
> Barely
> 24 hours after, Yaya removed from office the
> Inspector
> General of Police Gibril Joof, a senior operation
> commander Turo Jawneh and I think the school
> authorities also got some share of the punishment.
> Yaya had accused the police and the school principle
> for being too high-handed on the children. That is
> the
> typical style of Yaya’s reaction to such national
> crisis in genera. If he was not guilty he would have
> instantly started dismissing, arresting,
> re-deploying,
> swearinr to bury people six-foot deep and above all
> wearing his frightening killer- baboon face.
>
>
> This time however despite the fact that the whole
> country somehow pointed the accusing finger to
> Badjie
> and Jatta in particular, Yaya came and masqueraded
> as
> a pious Ayatollah, quoting the Quaran and talking as
> if his absence during the massacre should exonerate
> him altogether. Yet he would not comment on the
> public’s demand to punish the executioners. People I
> spoke to in the Gambia me surprising reports about
> how
> Yaya looked absolutely pitiful on TV, his face
> changed
> like an honest person telling the truth from his
> heart. However, as some one rightly put it, in this
> desperate moment if those accused were not Jattas
> and
> Badjies, but Ceesays, Manjangs, Jallows, or Jobes,
> Yaya would have appeared in his true demonic colors
> huffing and puffing, dismissing and arresting
> everywhere with little or no consideration for
> initial
> investigations. Did he not act like that in the last
> dubious coup? How many people were victimized since
> then without investigation?
>
>
> But in the final analysis, he could not act because
> he
> ordered Isatou Njie Saidy, Ousman Badjie and
> Baboucarr
> Jatta to open fire on the kids and kill as many as
> possible. Those of us who know the way Yaya runs his
> government, whenever he travels, he is given minute
> by
> minute report of all the activities taking place in
> the country regardless of how trivial they may seem,
> much more when they it was that big this time. In
> fact
> my intelligence sources told me that he gave the
> order
> to shoot the kids the day before, when he was
> leaving
> for Cuba and was told that the school children were
> going to hold the demonstration by force after they
> were denied a permit.
>
> This is not the first time he gave such evil orders.
> After the Kartong attack on the 21st July 1997, he
> sent the late Almamo Manneh and some of his Former
> State Guard thugs to the army headquarter with an
> order that the captured Lieutenants- L.F.Jammeh,
> Alieu Bah and Jarju-must be executed forthwith. At
> first we thought the guards were joking, but when
> Yaya
> in a nasty mood called from the State House
> insisting
> that the captured soldiers must be killed to set
> examples we refused to carry out those unlawful
> orders. We told him that killing them was out of it,
>
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UDP/NRP ISSUE JOINT STATEMENT
Representatives of the two main opposition parties in The Gambia, the UDP and
the NRP, headed by their party leaders, Ousainou Darboe and Hamat Bah,
yesterday, issued a joint statement "on the grave and regrettable events" of
Monday and Tuesday, April 10 and 11, which they claimed "led to the death of
over 15 school children and the maiming and injury of scores of others."
The discussions of the two political parties took place against the backdrop
of the speech of President Yahya Jammeh on Sunday, April 16. The full text of
the statement is reproduced below.
"The president's remarks have not revealed anything new. To the contrary, it
has brought up more questions than answers. During his absence and in the
aftermath of the brutal massacre of the innocent children, several
secretaries of state made various inconsequent statement notably that:
- the shooting started from the demonstrators.
-Some unscrupulous elements took advantage of the situation.
- The armory at Serrekunda Police Station was broken into and arms stolen and
used during the demonstration.
One particular secretary of state affirmed her support for the use of fire
arms by the security forces against the students whom she described as
'vagabonds, bandits and criminals.'
All utterances made by government officials laid emphasis only on material
damage, completely ignoring the loss of precious human lives. The UDP and NRP
vehemently condemn the wholesale massacre of our kids and no trumped up
pretext can justify the shooting of innocent children exercising their
constitutional and civic rights.
The most crucial point that the Gambian public wanted to hear is who gave the
order to shoot. If it was not the president, did he condone it and if he did
not, what is he going to do about this grave misjudgment. His statement that
he was 'constantly working with (his) government on the evolution of the
situation on the ground" is not helpful at all because this means that he was
aware all along of what was happening to the children.
The Gambian nation wants to get to the bottom of this matter and in the
interest of peace and reconciliation, the government and Jammeh in
particular, must be seen to be taking tangible steps to redress the
situation. These must include:
- release of all students presently in custody in connection with the
demonstration;
- release of parents and guardians arrested after the demonstration;
- release of post mortem reports of children who have been killed;- release
of an update on the national death toll taking into consideration those who
later died in hospital and in the provinces;
- setting up an independent commission of inquiry composed of men and women
of high integrity and assisted by senior and experienced members of the Bar
Association, to look into all aspects of this matter.
In order to give the commission a fair chance of succeeding, government must
refrain from making further comments on the events surrounding the student
demonstration and the subsequent deaths of the children. These statements
will (not) only inflame the already critical situation but would tend to
prejudice the outcome of the commission's work.
Finally, the UDP and NRP wish to reiterate their shared belief that true
democracy in word and in deed is the solution to our problem of governance.
Government must show therefore proof of willingness to work towards the
healing process. High-handed and strong arm tactics by government agents will
not help the situation. The ball is in the government's court and if it does
not play it rightly, it will bear the full responsibility."
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Brother, I understand your frustration and shortcoming[s] regarding the
various splinter groupings of Gambian organizations both at home and abroad.
This is not a new phenomena and will never get resolved as long as we keep
dwelling on personalities instead of 'the group,' knowing well, that amongst
us, are rabble-rouser, provocateurs and the apathetic masses within the
group/organization. Is it not true that our African brothers and sister in
the USA encounters the same organizational dysfunction, if not worst,
especially churches? Each of us must start a new chapter of trusting, caring,
maturity, respect and sincere dialogue within our immediate family and
friends, and then to the outside groups/organization in order for us to be
whole and complete. In the absence of this, we'll be discussing this issue
again in 2011.
I believe recent events in Gambia and Yahya Jammeh in general, is a blessing
in disguise for us to change the equation afflicting Gambians, whereby, we
resign and sink our citizenry to false hopes, apathy, anonymity and
depersonalization.
My suggestions are:
1] As disenfranchised Gambians, we must organize/coalesce the different
groupings under one umbrella with branches all over the world
2] We must start working inside the 'system' [i.e.] selecting, empowering and
electing our own progressive leaders that would serve our collective interest
3] We must engage in a critical and diagnostic analysis of our current
conditions by analyzing what went wrong? and where do we go from here?
4] We should extend invitations to the various opposition party leaders and
APRC regime, to attend the upcoming ALD in DC, whereby we'll demand voting
rights for Gambian's living abroad; instead of watching from the sidelines,
we'll become participants in the process.This is the only reason why Jawara
and hence Yahya Jammeh do not give a hoot about what we write or say from
abroad. We must start using our $, #, DM, KRONA and email power to vote our
interest
I will elaborate more on this.... any suggestions, add your dime to this
worthwhile endeavor
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G-L Community:
As Secretary-General Annan's visit to The Gambia is drawing near, we
need to reach him to express our concerns and disgust in the Massace of
April 10 & 11. This is in addition to the letters we sent to his office
already.
I am suggesting therefore that Jabou Joh's letter, and Buharry's be sent
and signed by all or sent individually to the Permanent UNDP
Representative in The Gambia, Malika Akrouf. Her email address is:
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Sources tell me that Annan plans on meeting with opposition leaders, to
the dimay of the Jammeh regime.
If this suggestion is found to be acceptable, I do not see why we could
not proceed. Other letters that are in circulation in Atlanta, Europe
and other places could also be sent. Thanks.
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Mba,
Just for your info, I DO NOT HATE EITHER KARAMBA OR LATJOR. I know both
gentlemen personally. I was in a meeting with both just last weekend
regarding this tragedy back home. My critique is not specific to the GLC. It
addresses all Gambian orgs here in this area including the Gambia Support
Group of which I belong. So, please don't harvest apples from my peanut
farm. It never ceases to amaze me how people like yourself completely
misconstrue written language. What hate are you talking about?
Saul.
>Saul,
>Could you please spare us from this topic? I don't think your criticism is
>constructive at all. You can do a better job than the way
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Excellent suggesstion.It's a go as far as I'm concern.
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G-L Community:
As Secretary-General Annan's visit to The Gambia is drawing
near, we
need to reach him to express our concerns and disgust in the
Massace of
April 10 & 11. This is in addition to the letters we sent to
his office
already.
I am suggesting therefore that Jabou Joh's letter, and Buharry's
be sent
and signed by all or sent individually to the Permanent UNDP
Representative in The Gambia, Malika Akrouf. Her email address
is:
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Sources tell me that Annan plans on meeting with opposition
leaders, to
the dimay of the Jammeh regime.
If this suggestion is found to be acceptable, I do not see why
we could
not proceed. Other letters that are in circulation in Atlanta,
Europe
and other places could also be sent. Thanks.
Abdoulaye
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Greetings:
As this is a time of reflection for the Christians on their lives, the
trials and tribulations of Christ and the world, I will refrain from
responding to Saul and others until the beginning of the week.
The following is an excerpt from the 'The Way of The Cross', better known as
'The Stations of The Cross':
If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before you. If you were of
the world, the world would love what is its own. Because you are not of this
world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates
you. Remember the word that I have spoken to you: No servant is greater than
his master. If they have persecuted me, they will persecute you also. (John
15, 18 to 20)
Let us pray. O God, to free us from sin and weakness your Son, Jesus Christ,
embraced his fearful passion and crucifixion. Strengthen us in our baptismal
resolutions by which we renounced sin and Satan, so that through the passion
of this life's sufferings we might rise to a new life of joyful service free
of all selfishness.
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May the blessings of Easter and Good Friday be with all of us.
Brother Solomon Njai,
I think both Tombong and you have very good and valid suggestions for unity and
peace in the community .Regardless of our religious beliefs ,political
affiliations or tribes/origins we should all follow the three Rs:
* Respect for self
* Respect for others and
* Responsibility for all our actions
Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly.
Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship.
When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to
correct it.
In disagreements with each other, deal only with the current
situation. Don't bring up the past.
Open your arms to change but don't let go of your values.
Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful
stroke of luck.
Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.
Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it.
When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
Take into account that great achievements involve
great risk.
Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve immortality.
I borrowed some of these quotes from the Dalai Lama ( nb I am not a
Buddist-just picking some of his best teachings)
What happened in April in Banjul was wrong but two wrongs do not make a right.
I hope I have not offended anyone and I am contributing some points in good
faith.
May Allah guide us all towards unity and peace.
By the way
Dagma since Lizzy is not around can we still get our nan buru from the St.
Joseph's club?
Habib Diab Ghanim, Sr
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Solomon Njai wrote:
> Brother, I understand your frustration and shortcoming[s] regarding the
> various splinter groupings of Gambian organizations both at home and abroad.
> This is not a new phenomena and will never get resolved as long as we keep
> dwelling on personalities instead of 'the group,' knowing well, that amongst
> us, are rabble-rouser, provocateurs and the apathetic masses within the
> group/organization. Is it not true that our African brothers and sister in
> the USA encounters the same organizational dysfunction, if not worst,
> especially churches? Each of us must start a new chapter of trusting, caring,
> maturity, respect and sincere dialogue within our immediate family and
> friends, and then to the outside groups/organization in order for us to be
> whole and complete. In the absence of this, we'll be discussing this issue
> again in 2011.
> I believe recent events in Gambia and Yahya Jammeh in general, is a blessing
> in disguise for us to change the equation afflicting Gambians, whereby, we
> resign and sink our citizenry to false hopes, apathy, anonymity and
> depersonalization.
> My suggestions are:
> 1] As disenfranchised Gambians, we must organize/coalesce the different
> groupings under one umbrella with branches all over the world
> 2] We must start working inside the 'system' [i.e.] selecting, empowering and
> electing our own progressive leaders that would serve our collective interest
> 3] We must engage in a critical and diagnostic analysis of our current
> conditions by analyzing what went wrong? and where do we go from here?
> 4] We should extend invitations to the various opposition party leaders and
> APRC regime, to attend the upcoming ALD in DC, whereby we'll demand voting
> rights for Gambian's living abroad; instead of watching from the sidelines,
> we'll become participants in the process.This is the only reason why Jawara
> and hence Yahya Jammeh do not give a hoot about what we write or say from
> abroad. We must start using our $, #, DM, KRONA and email power to vote our
> interest
> I will elaborate more on this.... any suggestions, add your dime to this
> worthwhile endeavor
> peace
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<b><font size=+1>May the blessings of Easter and
Good Friday be with all of us.</font></b>
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<p>Brother Solomon Njai,
<br>I think both Tombong and you have very good and valid suggestions
for unity and peace in the community .Regardless of our religious beliefs
,political affiliations or tribes/origins we should all follow the
three Rs:
<br> * Respect for self
<br> * Respect for others and
<br> * Responsibility for all our actions
<br> Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly.
<br>Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship.
<br>When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to
<br> correct it.
<br>In disagreements with each other, deal only with the current
<br> situation. Don't bring up the past.
<br>Open your arms to change but don't let go of your values.
<br> Remember that not getting what you want is
sometimes a wonderful
<br> stroke of luck.
<br> Remember that silence is sometimes the best
answer.
<br> Judge your success by what you had to give
up in order to get it.
<br> When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
<br> Take into account that great achievements
involve
<br> great risk.
<br> Share your knowledge. It's a way to
achieve immortality.
<br>
<br> I borrowed some of these quotes from
the Dalai Lama ( nb I am not a Buddist-just picking some of his best teachings)
<br>What happened in April in Banjul was wrong but two wrongs do not make
a right.
<br>I hope I have not offended anyone and I am contributing some points
in good faith.
<p>May Allah guide us all towards unity and peace.
<p>By the way
<p>Dagma since Lizzy is not around can we still get our nan buru from the
St. Joseph's club?
<br>
<p>Habib Diab Ghanim, Sr
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<p>Solomon Njai wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Brother, I understand your frustration and shortcoming[s]
regarding the
<br>various splinter groupings of Gambian organizations both at home and
abroad.
<br>This is not a new phenomena and will never get resolved as long as
we keep
<br>dwelling on personalities instead of 'the group,' knowing well, that
amongst
<br>us, are rabble-rouser, provocateurs and the apathetic masses within
the
<br>group/organization. Is it not true that our African brothers and sister
in
<br>the USA encounters the same organizational dysfunction, if not worst,
<br>especially churches? Each of us must start a new chapter of trusting,
caring,
<br>maturity, respect and sincere dialogue within our immediate family
and
<br>friends, and then to the outside groups/organization in order for us
to be
<br>whole and complete. In the absence of this, we'll be discussing this
issue
<br>again in 2011.
<br>I believe recent events in Gambia and Yahya Jammeh in general, is a
blessing
<br>in disguise for us to change the equation afflicting Gambians, whereby,
we
<br>resign and sink our citizenry to false hopes, apathy, anonymity and
<br>depersonalization.
<br>My suggestions are:
<br>1] As disenfranchised Gambians, we must organize/coalesce the different
<br>groupings under one umbrella with branches all over the world
<br>2] We must start working inside the 'system' [i.e.] selecting, empowering
and
<br>electing our own progressive leaders that would serve our collective
interest
<br>3] We must engage in a critical and diagnostic analysis of our current
<br>conditions by analyzing what went wrong? and where do we go from here?
<br>4] We should extend invitations to the various opposition party leaders
and
<br>APRC regime, to attend the upcoming ALD in DC, whereby we'll demand
voting
<br>rights for Gambian's living abroad; instead of watching from the sidelines,
<br>we'll become participants in the process.This is the only reason why
Jawara
<br>and hence Yahya Jammeh do not give a hoot about what we write or say
from
<br>abroad. We must start using our $, #, DM, KRONA and email power to
vote our
<br>interest
<br>I will elaborate more on this.... any suggestions, add your dime to
this
<br>worthwhile endeavor
<br>peace
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Tombong,
We're on opposites sides politically, but if you're sincere about your views
on the umbrella org in the DC area, then I agree with you entirely. We share
the same sentiments. I BELIEVE we need an umbrella org not just in the DC
area, but one representing the entire Gambian community in the US. The main
stumbling block has to do with inflated egoes. Period. Any time you say
this, some people get offended, yet it's an open secret. If we all can
muster the courage to check our individual egoes for the common good, we'll
be able to easily pull it off. Otherwise, we'll continue to be marginalized
as a community, while we carelessly waste our enormous potential. But too
many of us are enamored with titles: "I'm founder of this," "I'm President
of that,..."
You've scored a point regarding Haddy Mundow. I had debated the wisdom of
narrating the story verbatim, but my desire to be forthright won over
caution. Most Gambians will call you a liar for saying things they don't
like. The more irrefutable evidence you provide, the less the chance of been
dragged into a petty argument. I'll see Haddy Mundow herself tomorrow night,
and will tell her what I said. Thanks for pointing it out.
Regarding, your reference to how we could help the Gambia in cases like the
massacre of last week, I'll pretend that I didn't read that from you. I
don't think you're being sincere about what you said. But because your piece
is very respectful, I won't take you to task. If you can keep up this type
of contributions without having to do the dirty job for Yaya Jammeh, you'll
be able to redeem something of whatever little reputation you had. Not a
very realistic proposal considering everything. But generally, I don't have
any serious problems with your piece. Have a good weekend.
Saul.
>Saul,
>
>I find your analysis very disturbing simply because, there have been a lot
>of misrepresentation of facts. I know the state of affairs in the DC
>
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I guess it has to do with how I subscribed.. or is this universal?
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do you all know that miss sallah of glouster st in banjul was the chief
"gewel " of jawara?
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>culled from GRTS page.
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>
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>Opinion leaders in the country yesterday held a private meeting with the
>President Yahya Jammeh to pay their condolences to him following the death
>of12 people in the April 10th and 11th incidents. The group which include
>chiefs and alkalolus drawn from the seven administrative regions is the
>latest in series of consultations with President Jammeh, since he returned
>from the G77 Summit in Cuba. The group's Spokesman Seyfo Alhaji Tabora
>Manneh of Lower Niumi informed our reporter that President Jammeh was shock
>and saddened by the number of casualties and the destruction to public and
>private property during the riots. The President is reported to have
>implored Opinion leaders to preach peace, sanity and social cohesion in
>their communities and inculcate into their children respect, tolerance and
>discipline. Speaking on behalf of her colleagues Aji Fatou Sallah of
>Banjul told our reporter that the government has promised to conduct full
>investigation into the causes of the deaths and take strong measures to
>avert a re-occurence of such incidents in the Gambia. Mrs Sallah called on
>parents to train their children by teaching them love and patriotism.
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M. Darboe, what happens is when you hit reply at times, the mail is sent directly to the sender and not to the Gambia-L. I have scratched my head in vain as to why this strange scenario happens only in certain instances. But, for real, this is only a minor inconvenience. Next time you reply, look in the "send to" box, and make sure the email is addressed to the Gambia-L. If this is not the case, just delete the contents of the "send to" field, and type in the following address:
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Clinton seeks $200 million for Africa floods
This is certainly a first:
WASHINGTON, April 21 (Reuters) - President Bill Clinton asked Congress on Friday for more than $200 million in emergency funding to help Mozambique and other countries in Southern Africa recover from a series of cyclones.
The White House said in a statement the money would help Mozambique, Madagascar, Botswana, South Africa, Zambia and Zimbabwe to recover from Cyclones Gloria, Eline and Hudah and the flooding that they caused in recent months.
The flooding badly damaged transportation links, water and sanitation systems, schools, health clinics and farms across the region, with Mozambique the hardest hit.
The largest sum -- $131 million -- would help Mozambique to repair road and rail lines, to restore health and education services and to rehabilitate its agricultural sector.
The White House also asked Congress to restore authority for the Pentagon to use $37.5 million from existing accounts to provide for humanitarian relief operations in the region.
Other aid requested included $17 million for Madagascar to repair transportation lines as well as improve water quality and telecommunications capacity, and $16 million for flood control and disaster preparedness across the region.
South Africa would get $15 million to improve schools and health facilities, while Zimbabwe, Zambia and Botswana would share $4 million for housing, water treatment systems and disaster preparedness.
The White House also wants $7 million for the U.S. Agency for International Development's reconstruction efforts.
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Hi folks,
I am writing to seek help in preparing a position paper that will be used to
work toward a peaceful end of the Jammeh government. You might recall that
earlier this week, I informed the list that I was fortunate to meet
Wisconsin's Senator Russell Feingold, a member of the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee, and also the Ranking Member of that Committee's Africa
Sub-Committee.
To recap, I briefed Senator Feingold about the tragic events of April 10 and
11 in The Gambia, the worldwide outrage the events evoked in the Gambian and
peace-loving community, and mentioned to him that we would be needing help
from him and other people that are working globally on issues of human
rights and democracy. He referred me to his Aide, whom I also gave more
detail about the various demonstrations and petitions that Gambians the
world over were working on, and longer-term objectives to ensure that such
mayhem does not happen in The Gambia again.
I told Senator Feingold's Aide that we are working on building a coalition
of groups, and ultimately an umbrella organization to spear-head efforts at
redressing the recent killings in The Gambia, but more importantly, to work
toward a Gambia that's free, democratic, and open. I told him that we will
be preparing a paper that details the facts of the case against President
Jammeh, and would include proposals for a peaceful end of the Jammeh
government, as well as a mechanism for achieving that end.
Well, I'm glad to report that Senator Feingold's office has sustained their
interest in the case. It was just this morning (Friday, April 21) that I
received a call from one of the Senator's Aides in Washington, DC, to
follow-up on my meeting with the Senator. I had an extensive chat with her,
and informed her that we were still working on getting an umbrella
organization together, and also preparing a position paper to send them. In
the mean time, I referred her to the Gambia-L archives for her to review the
reactions that recent killings have been generating.
I also gave the Senator's Aide an overview of some of the longer-term
solutions that I have been suggesting. In particular, I informed her that
ultimately, President Jammeh has to agree to a peaceful handover of power to
a transitional national unity government, and an agreement to tell us the
truth about the fates of the many people who lost their lives in
circumstances that are as yet, not fully explained; at least satisfactorily.
In exchange, President Jammeh and his officials will be offered amnesty from
prosecution, as well as a lifetime pensions. Furthermore, the victims
families would be compensated by the Gambia government, with a view toward
alleviating any hardship they might suffer because of the untimely deaths of
their loved ones.
May I emphasize that the above ideas are not set in stone. Indeed, they are
just that, ideas to be debated and refined (maybe even rejected) on the
basis of a open dialog on what's best for our nation. Toward this end, I
would like to ask those interested and able to help in the preparation of a
position paper that will be structured as follows:
1. Introduction
- Background information about The Gambia
- The April 10 and 11 killings
- An overview of the paper, and the issues it addresses
2. A Historical Analysis of the Jammeh Administration
2.1. Government
- The AFPRC Government
- Transition to civilian rule
- The Second Republic so far
2.2. Economic and Development Policies
- Economic policies of the Jammeh administration
- Analysis of budgetary allocations under Jammeh - spending on civilian
and development programs, compared to military expenditure
- Analysis of spending trends
- Sources of government financing under Jammeh: taxes and excises,
internal debt (treasury bills, bonds); external debts (bilateral
governmental and private)
2.3. Democracy, Human Rights, and Press Freedom
- Political activity under Jammeh
- Jammeh's human rights record
- Press freedom under Jammmeh
2.4. Foreign Policy
- Sub-regional policy - Senegal/Guinea Bissau/West Africa
- Regional and International Issues
2.5. Military Affairs
- A history of the Gambian military
- The role of the military and security agencies in The Gambia politics
- Military high-handedness, and excesses against civilians
3. Proposal for a Peaceful Handover of Power
- Proposal for a peaceful transfer of power from President Jammeh to a
transitional government of national unity
- Framework for implementing the proposal
- NOTE: (I can draft this part, and send it out along with other parts
to Gambia-L for comments and suggestions for improving it)
4. Alternative Actions if the Proposal is not Accepted
- I can draft this also
5. Help Needed from the International Community
- I can draft this also
6. Conclusions
I told Senator Feingold's Aide that I will send her the paper by the end of
next week. For this reason, I would appreciate it if we can work double
time on this to get it out to the Senator's Office. I'm hoping that a
number of Gambia-L subscribers have in the past written papers or articles
addressing many if not all of the issues I mentioned above. Thus, it should
be a matter of revising and summarizing these papers, and merging them with
contributions from others to yield us something we can work with. Matter of
fact, I found (via the Gambia-L archives) the US State Dept. report,
published earlier this year, on human rights in The Gambia. It's worth a
read, and still available online at:
http://www.state.gov/www/global/human_rights/1999_hrp_report/gambia.html
For your information, I'll be more than happy to edit whatever material is
sent me, and collate them into a logical and consistent whole. I will then
forward the draft to the list for people to comment on it, and sign-on
before we send it out.
That's about it for now. Please feel free to contact me directly at
[log in to unmask] if you have any questions. Have a great weekend, and best
wishes.
Katim
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Brother Edi,
Thank you for your response. I believe that if we all work hand in hand we
may be able to break up some kola-nuts one day. Together.
Kiitos.
Momodou.
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> I salute you Mr sidibeh for the wonderful piece you wrote.It happens that
> you have been keeping notes of event understook in this forum moreover,
> the grassroot of the political activities in our motherland.It will be
> however, impossible to remedy problems with a knowledge of it's root. So
> brother you are one of a kind.I think we can take some sense from
> Sidibeh's analysis to start real thinking of situation and how to make
> diffirence as new Gambians. Again Mr Sidibeh my heartful of thanks to you.
> Long live the intellectuals and unegoistic individuals of this forum.
>
> __________________________________________________________________
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Katim, Saul, and everyone else;
Immense thanks for your feedbacks, all of you. While remaining open for =
more ideas and suggestions, I want to put in some more detail to help =
shape a trend:
1. The discussion that Saul's response generated is healthy, yet we need =
to remain focused on the key issue of the moment : The campaign for =
solidarity with all the victims of the April massacre :
2. I do not see any problems with creating and building a new =
all-Gambian organization as a Gambia-L initiative. It does not have to =
be an umbrella oragnisation now; this sort of status must be earned - as =
Saul succinctly put it. But I am thinking that this must be registered =
as an NGO (non-governmental organisation) in the Gambia with people =
there on the ground to man it. With a minimum objective of monitoring =
Human Rights issues, matters relating to development and democracy, and =
opening up direct channels for communication with the government.
It should provide a registered, legitimate and official representation =
of the opinion of its members - obviously from Gambia-L, and even those =
not subscribed to Gambia-L.=20
3.
I am still insisting on non-partisanship, as opposed to Dr. Saine, =
because we need not not be and should not be seen as an instrument of =
any one political party, be it that party is in government, or in =
opposition. This organisation should simply be pro-Gambia, especially =
because issues of democracy, human and people's rights will still need =
struggling for never mind which political party is in power. It simply =
has to be critical of power. Are we all not now familiar with the notion =
"Not to Believe in any Gods, Gods that Always Fail"?
But as Dr. Saine again, seems to misunderstand, this does not mean we =
should not take any sides. I specified in the articles you commented, =
that we must stand on the side of the poor, the unrepresented, the =
marginalised, and the voiceless. Always.
4.
While this may yet be a matter for the future, I am thinking that such =
an organisation needs a sort of organ, a journal of opinion of some =
sort. To reach a broader Gambian public I tend to believe that we must =
reach beyond the web. Inspite of the optimism Gambia-L generates, the =
fact remains that very very few Gambians in the country are wired. I am =
here incorporating earlier suggestions advanced by Katim - an electronic =
journal for enhancing Gambian scholarship, reasearh, and culture.
5. This sort of organisation will need serious funding, and Saul has =
come up with a viable option. But depending on what we agree upon, there =
is no reason why we cannot lobby the European Union, the US Institute =
for Democracy, and many other agencies to provide funds for office room =
and staff for the organisation. This is quite possible.
I think I have already said too much, so let us all keep on thinking.
Thanking you all for your time.
Momodou S Sidibeh
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Katim S. Touray=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: UNDERSTANDING THE APRIL MASSACRE (2)
Hi folks,
First, I would appeal to all and sundry to take some time and read =
Momodou Sidibeh's 2-part posting entirely, and carefully. May I, before =
going further, express my sincere gratitude to him for his brilliant, =
and well-thoughout contribution to the ongoing exchange of ideas about =
recent events in The Gambia, and what to do next. I have certainly =
found his historical analysis timely, and educative, and I hope those of =
you who are more versed in the history of Gambian politics follow =
Momodou's example, and take us all back to school.
I would also like to touch on a number of issues Momodou has raised, =
as well as his suggestion for the creation of a non-partisan Gambian =
organization. Mr. Sidibeh has lamented the Gambian not to =
follow-through on important issues, and backed his claims with a number =
of examples. Without a doubt we, are all guilty of most, if not all the =
charges levelled at us by Momodou, and I guess the best way to repent is =
to make sure that we all work sincerely toward mending our ways. =
Speaking for myself, I will confirm that Mr. Sidibeh did indeed write to =
me a while back, asking me about what happened to Dr. Saine's proposal =
to have process of reconciliation and national healing. I recall =
telling him frankly that I did not know much about what became of it, =
and admitted dropping the ball. Or words to that effect.
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<DIV>Katim, Saul, and everyone else;</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Immense thanks for your feedbacks, all of you. While remaining open =
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shape a=20
trend:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>1. The discussion that Saul's response generated is healthy, yet we =
need to=20
remain focused on the key issue of the moment : The campaign for =
solidarity with=20
all the victims of the April massacre :</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>2. I do not see any problems with creating and building a new =
all-Gambian=20
organization as a Gambia-L initiative. It does not have to be an =
umbrella=20
oragnisation now; this sort of status must be earned - as Saul =
succinctly put=20
it. But I am thinking that this must be registered as an NGO =
(non-governmental=20
organisation) in the Gambia with people there on the ground to man it. =
With a=20
minimum objective of monitoring Human Rights issues, matters relating to =
development and democracy, and opening up direct channels for =
communication=20
with the government.</DIV>
<DIV>It should provide a registered, legitimate and official =
representation=20
of the opinion of its members - obviously from Gambia-L, and even =
those not=20
subscribed to Gambia-L. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>3.</DIV>
<DIV>I am still insisting on non-partisanship, as opposed to Dr. Saine, =
because=20
we need not not be and should not be seen as an instrument of any =
one=20
political party, be it that party is in government, or in =
opposition. This=20
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democracy, human and people's rights will still need struggling for =
never mind=20
which political party is in power. It simply has to be critical of =
power. Are we=20
all not now familiar with the notion "Not to Believe in any Gods, Gods =
that=20
Always Fail"?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But as Dr. Saine again, seems to misunderstand, this does not mean =
we=20
should not take any sides. I specified in the articles you commented, =
that we=20
must stand on the side of the poor, the unrepresented, the marginalised, =
and the=20
voiceless. Always.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>4.</DIV>
<DIV>While this may yet be a matter for the future, I am thinking that =
such an=20
organisation needs a sort of organ, a journal of opinion of some sort. =
To reach=20
a broader Gambian public I tend to believe that we must reach beyond the =
web.=20
Inspite of the optimism Gambia-L generates, the fact remains that very =
very few=20
Gambians in the country are wired. I am here incorporating earlier =
suggestions=20
advanced by Katim - an electronic journal for enhancing Gambian =
scholarship,=20
reasearh, and culture.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>5. This sort of organisation will need serious funding, and Saul =
has come=20
up with a viable option. But depending on what we agree upon, there is =
no reason=20
why we cannot lobby the European Union, the US Institute for Democracy, =
and many=20
other agencies to provide funds for office room and staff for the =
organisation.=20
This is quite possible.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think I have already said too much, so let us all keep on =
thinking.</DIV>
<DIV>Thanking you all for your time.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Momodou S Sidibeh</DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" [log in to unmask]>Katim S. =
Touray</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
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[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 20, 2000 =
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AM</DIV>
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APRIL=20
MASSACRE (2)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi folks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>First, I would appeal to all and =
sundry to take=20
some time and read Momodou Sidibeh's 2-part posting entirely, and=20
carefully. May I, before going further, express my sincere =
gratitude to=20
him for his brilliant, and well-thoughout contribution to the ongoing =
exchange=20
of ideas about recent events in The Gambia, and what to do next. =
I have=20
certainly found his historical analysis timely, and educative, and I =
hope=20
those of you who are more versed in the history of Gambian politics =
follow=20
Momodou's example, and take us all back to school.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would also like to touch on a =
number of issues=20
Momodou has raised, as well as his suggestion for the creation of a=20
non-partisan Gambian organization. Mr. Sidibeh has lamented the =
Gambian=20
not to follow-through on important issues, and backed his claims with =
a number=20
of examples. Without a doubt we, are all guilty of most, if not =
all the=20
charges levelled at us by Momodou, and I guess the best way to repent =
is to=20
make sure that we all work sincerely toward mending our ways. =
Speaking=20
for myself, I will confirm that Mr. Sidibeh did indeed write to me a =
while=20
back, asking me about what happened to Dr. Saine's proposal to have =
process of=20
reconciliation and national healing. I recall telling him =
frankly that I=20
did not know much about what became of it, and admitted dropping the=20
ball. Or words to that effect.</FONT></DIV>
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Dr. Abdoulie Saine,
Thanks a ton for your input. The points you raised are quite relevant and
important and I am sure many readers have taken note of them.
I feel however, that I need to clarify some of the positions I maintained in
the original article which, perhaps, have not come through well because of
any number of reasons.
Some of the positions you raised, I have already commented on elsewhere and
therefore need not be taken up once more :
Dr. Saine wrote:
........"
> What your analysis left out however, is how far Gambia-L has come, from
> a forum of necessary political/social discourse and criticism to one of
> pro-active/agency. Unquestionably, G-L(and its constituent parts) is a
> player in The Gambia's political landscape. Collectively, we created a
> voice and space for ourselves long before the April 10 Massacre, and
> have since then, exerted pressure on Jammeh and his regime. The latter
> was made possible, in part, by the practical strategies the G-L took in
> its efforts to influence events at home.
>
> Not withstanding the lack of response from the Jammeh regime, The G-L
> Position Paper(published in New African, The Independent, BBC interview
> and other outlets)has made an impact. How much? It is hard to measure
> as of now.. Yet, we must never judge our success and possible impact by
> the lack of response from Jammeh and his government. This was to be
> expected. The response I and others have received from Gambia since the
> publication of the proposal have been positive. And in the aftermath of
> the killings, our efforts to see justice rendered and comfort the nation
> at a time of such a tragedy and loss, must not be underestimated. In
> fact, the postings forwarded to us by Ebrima Ceesay from Gambia and the
> circulation of Karamba Touray's article at home, and others I have
> received privately, suggest that our efforts as a collective,
> (GAMBIA-L), are positive.
As you may have noted, my intention was to make a case for the need for a
broad-based mass organisation of Gambians by trying, in a humble way, to
highlight how its absence may have contributed to the gradual militarisation
of Gambian society ; and by implication, the tragic events of last week.
True, I might have paid little attention to the
influence Gambia-L may have in Gambia (I was off the list for the past four
months, rejoining again last week Tuesday), as I am not
aware of any reports anyone may have made on the impact the L has on Gambian
public thought and discourse. But I have recognised the very importance of
the L for us and have invariably commented on that in the past.
While I have no figures available, (the list managers may be able to help
here) I should dare venture the opinion that the number of Gambia-based
subscribers to Gambia-L is still below 100, especially taking into account
government agencies and agents hiding behind dubious identities. The
positive feedbacks notwithstanding, I think there are ample reasons for
expanding participation in Gambian affairs beyond Gambia-L. There are
thousands and thousands of civil servants, workers, students, and unemployed
individuals who have no access to the net.
You also wrote:
> Also, Overseas Gambians are very diverse in their political and
> ideological orientations. We are not a monolith. In fact, a great
> number of us are apolitical, but not any less concerned about events at
> home, or trying to make a contribution, however modest. To call for
> "some kind of ideological commitment...."on the part of Gambians, is at
> best naive and setting ourselves up for possible failure. We must rid
> ourselves of the notion that "We Are All One" because we are not.
> Witness the April 10 Massacre and the different versions each
> representing different interests. More important, Gambians today are
> distinguished along lines of wealth, class, education, gender etc.,
> hence different material interests. I wish it were different.
Naive perhaps, and yes, we are not a monolith. But certainly, we are also
not
a discrete collection of morbid individualists without anything in common,
or who are irredeemably incapable of reconciliation. Gambians have on many
occasions in the past recognized their common concerns and shared interests
and have organized accordingly.
I am afraid you must have missed the big picture Dr. Saine because the
students who died last week in Gambia and those whose families are in
turmoil and trauma and grief, recognised their differences, yet they
organised a demonstration! They did not not care that Ebrima Barry was a
Fulani (like me), or that Binta Manneh is a Mandinka GIRL(!) or that some
were from well-to-do families while most others were from poor ones! They
went
out there chanting, not lazy slogans like "We Are All One", but that they
wanted Justice. If they could find common cause in resisting callous
brutality, in demanding justice not only for the two victims but for all of
GAMBIAN SOCIETY, then they must have discovered an ideology sufficiently
powerful to move them to challenge the state with all its might ; an
ideology, that you and I are wasting wise acres - to borrow a phrase from
Hamjatta - trying to figure out. They discovered an ideology of Resistance
Yes, we may falter, fall and fail in our travails. Well, so what? We simply
should get up, brush off the dust and TRY AGAIN.
If there are overseas Gambians who find it better to dwell more on their
multiple diversities rather than on what they share as products of a
particular culture, history, and geography, and therefore cannot come to
find common cause in a minimum programme (such as a simple Human Rights
campaign) to work with,
then I suggest the boat simply leaves them behind.
You further wrote :
> When changes occur in the lives of a people and nations, (short of a
> revolution), it is bound to be tentative, fitful, messy and sometimes
> slow. The Gambia and Gambians are not any different. While I commend
> and admire the initiatives of Overseas Eritreans, our historical
> conditions, as indicated in your first posting, are different in many
> important respects. We are Gambians and like peoples every where, we
> have both positive and negative attributes. That is a fact we must
> accept and the basis upon which any analysis must proceed.
I agree that our attributes are the basis upon which any analysis must
proceed. Yet I must insist that we study differences in order to find a
basis for international solidarity ; in order to better realize how similar
we actually are. The professional methods of racists and bigots is to dwell
on the differences. Serious people concerned with progess seek for
similarities and act accordingly.
In your own very important National Reconciliation Position Paper, you named
a few countries where National reconciliation Commissions have existed. One
was South Africa. But indeed Gambians are equally less South African as they
are Eritrean. Gambians are not the only inhabitants of this word. We have a
duty to learn from the experiences of other people and figure out how these
can be incorporated into our own reality.
You again went on:
"Finally, it has become fashionable to scapegoat so-called intellectuals
> and in particular, their collective failure to the nation. Again,
> intellectuals are not a monolith and the failures at home are a
> collective responsibility that we all must bear. Most so-called
> intellectuals do what they can to assist family and nation, in addition,
> to their professional contributions. To expect less of them or
> so-called "non-intellectuals" is unforgivable.
Yes, we should not expect less of them, and yes, the failures are a
collective responsibility. But the issue is to expect much more, not less,
from intellectuals.
All over the world, ordinary people, businesses, institutions, and
governments look on learned people to offer guidance, to provide visions,
and to lead. The group of intellectuals that made a public apology for not
involving adequately in the affairs of their country were well aware of
their duty to their country ; a duty they failed miserably. Please do not
even try to absolve them of their responsibilty. You see, their are
thousands of Gambian farm hands picking up apples in Spain. They also help
their families and nation in the best way they can. But inside Gambia we all
should make a clean separation between people who spend their lives teaching
our children and prepare them for life, from those who use their time
selling lipstick and soda. All of us have a responsibility but we should not
be philosophical and pretend that our responsibilities are equal.
In Taiwan, twelve of the fourteen-member 1989 cabinet all acquired their
Ph.Ds abroad. Educated Gambians must get involved in the LIFE of their
nation.
Finally Dr. Saine, I want to tell you that it all boils down to a magic word
namely, SACRIFICE. I believe, we must respect the fact that some of us are
afraid. Afraid of losing their jobs, afraid of being tortured, and afraid of
going to jail. But we must hold high the efforts and sacrifices made by
others as monumental lightposts for our collective fearful groping in the
dark. Their are many Gambians one could name in this regard. But I think
particularly of the exemplary sacrifice made by Sidia Jatta. Not that I am
repeating what Amadou Kabir Njie said.
Almost exactly ten years ago (April 1990) in a critical letter I wrote to
Foroyaa - criticising PDOIS for mixing politics with political science, so
to speak - I explained and confessed how Sidia's resignation letter from
government service was such an incredible source of inspiration.
When he rejected his high national assembly member salary, I calculated at
the time that if the entire membership of the Assembly followed his example,
at least 500 of the so-called uncertificated teachers, whose services were
then being terminated, would have retained their jobs! (Unfortunately, I
cannot remember the precise figures).
It is for such reasons that I mentioned the Eritreans. I did not mean that
we should do the same; but I wanted to point out that such collective
sacrifice should not be seen as alien to us.
Some of you with doctoral degrees on this list have stayed put inspite of
our criticisms, sometimes even insults, our greed to pick your brains now
and then, and have even taken leadership roles in this campaign for freedom
in Gambia. You have won the respect and admiration of many of us. If nothing
else, your efforts mark a great beginning for Gambia.
( I am now resting my case, pledging that I will comment no more on this
issue. The discussion as we all know, is an open one).
Thanks.
Momodou S Sidibeh
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> Subject: Washington post article
>
>
> By Mary McGrory
> Thursday, April 20, 2000; Page A03
>
> Sierra Leone's Hope on Hold
>
> On the face of it, things could not be worse in Sierra
> Leone, the small
> West African country that is a world capital of misery.
> An insane peace
> agreement, signed last July, was supposed to end a
> bloody eight-year
> civil war. It gave blanket amnesty to warlords and put
> one in charge of
> the country's greatest treasure, its diamonds;
> civilians whose hands,
> arms and legs have been hacked off by rebel forces
> number in the
> thousands, as do refugees inside the country.
>
> But a U.S. senator, Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), is doing
> something that could
> make things worse: He has put a hold on funds for U.N.
> peacekeepers, who
> represent Sierra Leone's one slim hope for salvation.
>
> Gregg, a tall, spare, unsmiling Yankee, who is chairman
> of the
> Appropriations subcommittee on commerce, justice, state
> and judiciary,
> gave similar treatment to three other wretched
> countries--Kosovo, the
> Congo and East Timor--but is said to be especially "not
> satisfied" with
> the way our tax money is being spent in Sierra Leone.
> It is easy to see
> why. More than 10,000 civilians have been murdered,
> raped, abducted or
> maimed, and the terrorist commander, Foday Sankoh, who
> should be in the
> dock, is in charge of diamonds.
>
> Sankoh makes no secret of the fact that he seeks a
> political career, and
> the profits from the diamonds could provide funds for
> his campaign for
> the presidency while he continues to pay his troops. He
> has officially
> ordered his men to turn in their weapons, as required
> by the peace
> treaty, and speaks of his commitment to the Lome
> accords, which were
> signed last July.
>
> Against the array of injustice and savagery, U.N.
> officials gamely argue
> that they knew the accords had the seed of further
> calamity, and entered
> formal "reservations" at the time, but that, given the
> overwhelming
> desire of Sierra Leoneans for an end to the fighting,
> there was no other
> choice.
>
> The U.N. says that the peacekeeping troops are
> gradually making their
> way to areas still in rebel control. "Of course there
> are roadblocks,"
> one U.N. official declared, "but our commanders push
> gently and often
> they get through."
>
> Of the 11,000 U.N. troops planned for Sierra Leone,
> 6,000 have arrived.
> The surrender of weapons goes slowly. The
> non-governmental organizations
> are moving in right behind the troops to offer refuge,
> medical care and
> rehabilitation. English-language newspapers and
> television faithfully
> report the stories of child soldiers who have chopped
> off the limbs of
> pregnant women and young women who have been kidnapped,
> gang-raped and
> abandoned in the bush. Such stories could rouse the
> world's conscience
> about conditions that could only be chronicled by
> Joseph Conrad and
> Evelyn Waugh. They also can discourage readers and
> viewers from thinking
> that such depravity is remediable.
>
> Two intrepid House members, Tony Hall (D-Ohio) and
> Frank Wolf (R-Va.),
> who periodically travel to the world's hell holes and
> bring back
> harrowing accounts of outrages their colleagues and the
> country don't
> want to hear about, are proposing a measure to trim the
> warlords' wings.
> They would require certificates of origin on diamonds
> imported to the
> United States. Hall thinks that "conflict diamonds"
> could be made a
> subject of moral revulsion, like fur.
>
> Sankoh launders his blood-covered diamonds through
> friendly merchants in
> neighboring countries such as Liberia, where President
> Charles Taylor, a
> strongman who founded Sankoh's Revolutionary United
> Front, runs the
> show. He cannot seek the political solution he says he
> wants until
> disarmament is complete.
>
> Sen. Gregg declines to say why he stopped the $96
> million earmarked for
> the U.N. in Sierra Leone. After Somalia, President
> Clinton lost all
> appetite for intervening in Africa. Last year, when the
> West could have
> prevented the genocide by supporting West African
> peacekeeping troops
> who needed more help to defeat the RUF, the president
> was preoccupied
> with his impeachment trial, and no one showed the
> political will needed
> for intervention such as in Kosovo. But a recent
> visitor, The Washington
> Post's managing editor, Steve Coll, found the people of
> Sierra Leone
> hungry for democracy--they went on strike when the
> terrorists overcame a
> democratically elected, if weak, government.
>
> One man who is doing all he can to make it impossible
> for Americans to
> say later that they didn't know what was going on in
> Sierra Leone is a
> 45-year-old unemployed business analyst in Minnesota
> who at his own
> expense founded and maintains a Web site with all the
> latest every day.
> Peter Andersen is a returned Peace Corps volunteer who
> spent three years
> teaching farming to Sierra Leoneans. He kept in touch
> and government
> officials and terrorists alike call him to give and
> receive information.
>
>
> The U.N. failed in Angola and didn't try in Rwanda.
> Some people find in
> that history reason enough to do battle with the newest
> and most
> sickening evil in Africa.
>
>
>
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Mr Sidibeh,
Thank you very much for these proposals. If the type of organization
you have highlighted could be established in the Gambia, it will go a long
way in helping entrenched a positive contribution to our development.
I always hold the notion that the situation in the Gambia is not
hopeless. In fact, the future could be very promising. It all depends on the
kind of people who are willing to offer themselves to be of service to their
nation; people who are selflessly motivated for the common good. People who
are sincere, committed, honest and above all, have a conscience.
We are living in a world today, which by its own contradictions, is
proving more and more alien from the concepts it has evolved overtime. From
time immemorial, people of thought and foresight have tried to grasp the
essence of being, and the unity and struggle of the opposites it nurtures,
resolving to harmonize its contradictions so as to facilitate a climate
conducive to peaceful co-existence and mutual inner fulfillment. This is the
mission that challenges us all, as we try to determine our purpose in
enriching our human experiences.
Concepts, therefore, are ideas about resloution; resolution is the
necessary condition to mitigate circumstances of conflict. Conflict, is the
internalization of norms, values, beliefs etc that are at variance with
similar core internalizations held by different people or groups of people.
The conflagration of conflicts, is the abrogation of all rational
imperatives, that reduces the human spirit to a callous, unfeeling, ferocious
energy, and the human mind to an impalpable crude impusle bent on inflicting
pain and suffering.
The underlying factors that has shaped human existence and human
relations, has been the inherent conflicts, struggles, that has existed
between peoples. These conflicts, or differences form the basis of their
struggle; these conflicts, or differences, also form the basis of
conceptualizing the harmonization of these inherent conflicts.
The proposals you have made, and the analysis you have given, in my
opinion are quite progressive. As long as there is an effort to minimize the
differences that set us apart, and solidify the common objectives that
strengthen us as a nation, and as a people, we are indeed making progress. I,
therefore, applaud your sincere efforts in trying to find a meaningful
platform, an organization, in which Gambians can contribute positively to our
development.
Rene
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Hi folks,
I'm writing to suggest an overall structure for the planned Free Gambia =
Web site. Given that there's still a lot more work that needs to be =
done in regards the formation of an umbrella organization, I suggest we =
use "Free Gambia" as a title for the Web site, rather than a name of an =
organization. In the event, hopefully, that the Web site becomes a =
semblance of the umbrella organization we are all working toward, we can =
then formally adopt the name of the Web site as that of the organization =
when it's formed.
I've discussed the Free Gambia site at different times with a number of =
people, and below is a draft of the basic structure I would suggest for =
it. For your information, I was planning to send this e-mail only those =
that are, as of now, involved with hashing out details of creating the =
site, but I decided to forward it to Gambia-L instead because it will =
help if we get feedback before we put pen to paper, fingers to keyboard. =
Please take a look at the draft I'm sending below, and tell us how we =
can make the Web site better.
DRAFT FREE GAMBIA SITE STRUCTURE
1. Homepage
a) "Free Gambia" logo and/or stylized text that will serve as the =
site's official graphical identity.
b) Brief introduction to the site,
c) Links to other sections (shown below) of the Web site, and =
external resources of interest to visitors
2. Purpose of the Free Gambia site
a) A response to the April 10 and 11 killings in the Gambia
b) A start toward the formation of an umbrella Gambian organization =
aimed at fostering democracy and human rights in The Gambia
c) A clearing house for information about, and a directory of =
Gambian organizations around the world
3. Projects
a) Response to the April 2000 Killings in The Gambia (news, =
demonstrations, meetings, etc.)
b) A Peaceful End to the Jammeh Government
4. Web Tools
a) Directory of Gambian Organizations
b) Global Gambian Community Calendar
c) Discussion Board
d) Chat
e) Mailing Lists
f) Surveys and Polls
5. Links to External Resources
a) Gambia-related
b) Africa-related
c) Human Rights and Democracy Resources
6. FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
a) Answers to FAQs
b) Ask a question
7. How to Help
a) Helping the Free Gambia Web site
b) Gambian Organizations needing help
c) Individuals needing help
9. Contact Us
a) Phone/fax
b) e-mail
c) Regular or "snail" mail
10. The Culprits
"Guilty as charged", the people that helped put this together
I mentioned that I have spoken to a few people about the site, and for =
your information, Dr. Amadou Janneh has registered the freegambia.org =
and freegambia.com domains for us, George Sarr (of =
http://www.gambiansonline.com) has offered to help with graphics, design =
and programming work, Latjor Ndow has also agreed to help with some Web =
work, and I'll be helping anyway I can. Other people who have offered =
to help include, off the top of my head, Jabou Joh, Karamba Touray, Saul =
Khan, and Bakary Sonko. We will be focusing on getting the site up, and =
later invite people to send in articles for inclusion in the site. You =
can, by the way contact us at the following addresses:
Dr. Amadou Janneh ([log in to unmask])
Latjor Ndow ([log in to unmask])
George Sarr ([log in to unmask])
Katim S. Touray ([log in to unmask])
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As always, keep the ideas coming. If anything, they go to show that we =
have a pool of talent that just needs to be tapped and harnessed to make =
The Gambia better. Have a great weekend, and best wishes. =20
=20
Katim
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a) Helping the Free=20
Gambia Web site</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2> b) Gambian =
Organizations=20
needing help</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2> =
c) Individuals=20
needing help</FONT></DIV>
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a) Phone/fax</FONT></DIV>
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b) e-mail</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2> =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>10. The =
Culprits</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2> "Guilty as =
charged", the=20
people that helped put this together</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I mentioned that I have spoken to a few =
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href=3D"http://www.gambiansonline.com">http://www.gambiansonline.com</A>)=
has=20
offered to help with graphics, design and programming work, Latjor Ndow =
has also=20
agreed to help with some Web work, and I'll be helping anyway I =
can. Other=20
people who have offered to help include, off the top of my head, Jabou =
Joh,=20
Karamba Touray, Saul Khan, and Bakary Sonko. We will be focusing =
on=20
getting the site up, and later invite people to send in articles for =
inclusion=20
in the site. You can, by the way contact us at the following=20
addresses:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Dr. Amadou Janneh =
(<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Latjor Ndow (<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> George Sarr (<A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Katim S. Touray (<A=20
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If=20
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to be=20
tapped and harnessed to make The Gambia better. Have a great =
weekend, and=20
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Katim,
I would like to assist in any way I can on this. However, I have to register
my opposition to the offer of no prosecution and a generous pension to
Jammeh. That is a proposal that I oppose vehemently since thses people have
already robbed our national coffers, and deserve no pension at all, not to
mention a generous one. This pension would not have been an issue of debate
had this administration carried out their assigned duties for the Gambian
people, but in my opinion, they have instead, robbed, pillaged and murdered,
and therefore have more or less deprived themselves of this priviledge.
Pensions are given to show appreciation for services rendered, and their is a
nightmare, not a service to be appreciated and rewarded.
Regarding granting them immunity, that would be the greatest miscarriage of
justice in our history, rivalled only by the ones being levied against our
people by this very group for which we are proposing immunity for.
If these two points can be eliminated from this proposal, then you have my
cooperation, otherwise, no thanks.This proposal should call for the
unconditional removal of Jammeh and his band of gypsies from the backs of the
Gambian people, and nothing else. That is the only fair stand we should take,
and nothing else.
Jabou Joh
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writes:
<< Hi folks,
I am writing to seek help in preparing a position paper that will be used to
work toward a peaceful end of the Jammeh government. You might recall that
earlier this week, I informed the list that I was fortunate to meet
Wisconsin's Senator Russell Feingold, a member of the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee, and also the Ranking Member of that Committee's Africa
Sub-Committee.
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In a message dated 4/21/00 5:56:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
From: [log in to unmask]
Omar Mohammedi, Esq.
200 Madison Avenue, Suite 1901
New York, NY 10016
(212) 725-3846
A Salaam -O- Alaikum Brothers and Sisters:
My name is Omar Mohammedi and I am one of the lawyers representing the
parents of Amadou Diallo.
On April 18, 2000, We filed the complaint against the City of New York
and its police officers it employs. The statute of limitation, which will
expire on May 4, 2000, necessitated that we pursue our civil suit.
Brothers and sisters, our main focus, however, is to convince the
department of justice to charge the police officers under the federal civil
rights violation.
We should not forget that damages in the civil suit will not bring
justice to Amadou Diallo. Justice should serve as a precedent.
I thank Allah for giving me the opportunity to serve the estate of
Amadou
Diallo. I have a mission. My mission is to set a legal precedent and afford
legal protection to minorities. Officers acting under the color of sate
law should serve and protect not abuse and humiliate. Amadou Diallo was
humiliated and his basic right to life was taken without justification.
Allah may bless you all.
Omar T. Mohammedi
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Abdoulaye,
I think we definitely need to get these letters to Annan before he goes to
Gambia. I have not checked with Yankuba Njie, but I am hoping that the
petition and the two letters have been posted at the petition site. We urge
everyone to go there and sign these documents so we can get them out to these
people and organizations immediately.
Jabou Joh
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writes:
<< G-L Community:
As Secretary-General Annan's visit to The Gambia is drawing near, we
need to reach him to express our concerns and disgust in the Massace of
April 10 & 11. This is in addition to the letters we sent to his office
already.
I am suggesting therefore that Jabou Joh's letter, and Buharry's be sent
and signed by all or sent individually to the Permanent UNDP
Representative in The Gambia, Malika Akrouf. Her email address is:
[log in to unmask]
Sources tell me that Annan plans on meeting with opposition leaders, to
the dimay of the Jammeh regime.
If this suggestion is found to be acceptable, I do not see why we could
not proceed. Other letters that are in circulation in Atlanta, Europe
and other places could also be sent. Thanks.
Abdoulaye
No justice, no peace!
Jammeh Must Go!
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Katim,
In addition to the things that will be included at the site, I suggest that
we also include a page that will list all of the documented human rights
violations, unsolved cases, violations of freedom of the press occurrences,
denials of access to media for opposition parties etc, and update any future
occurences. In other words, include the information that will be in the paper
that will be sent to Senator Russell Feingold's office.
Jabou Joh
Hi folks,
I'm writing to suggest an overall structure for the planned Free Gambia Web
site. Given that there's still a lot more work that needs to be done in
regards the formation of an umbrella organization, I suggest we use "Free
Gambia" as a title for the Web site, rather than a name of an organization.
In the event, hopefully, that the Web site becomes a semblance of the
umbrella organization we are all working toward, we can then formally adopt
the name of the Web site as that of the organization when it's formed.
I've discussed the Free Gambia site at different times with a number of
people, and below is a draft of the basic structure I would suggest for it.
For your information, I was planning to send this e-mail only those that are,
as of now, involved with hashing out details of creating the site, but I
decided to forward it to Gambia-L instead because it will help if we get
feedback before we put pen to paper, fingers to keyboard. Please take a look
at the draft I'm sending below, and tell us how we can make the Web site
better.
DRAFT FREE GAMBIA SITE STRUCTURE
1. Homepage
a) "Free Gambia" logo and/or stylized text that will serve as the site's
official graphical identity.
b) Brief introduction to the site,
c) Links to other sections (shown below) of the Web site, and external
resources of interest to visitors
2. Purpose of the Free Gambia site
a) A response to the April 10 and 11 killings in the Gambia
b) A start toward the formation of an umbrella Gambian organization
aimed at fostering democracy and human rights in The Gambia
c) A clearing house for information about, and a directory of Gambian
organizations around the world
3. Projects
a) Response to the April 2000 Killings in The Gambia (news,
demonstrations, meetings, etc.)
b) A Peaceful End to the Jammeh Government
4. Web Tools
a) Directory of Gambian Organizations
b) Global Gambian Community Calendar
c) Discussion Board
d) Chat
e) Mailing Lists
f) Surveys and Polls
5. Links to External Resources
a) Gambia-related
b) Africa-related
c) Human Rights and Democracy Resources
6. FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
a) Answers to FAQs
b) Ask a question
7. How to Help
a) Helping the Free Gambia Web site
b) Gambian Organizations needing help
c) Individuals needing help
9. Contact Us
a) Phone/fax
b) e-mail
c) Regular or "snail" mail
10. The Culprits
"Guilty as charged", the people that helped put this together
I mentioned that I have spoken to a few people about the site, and for your
information, Dr. Amadou Janneh has registered the freegambia.org and
freegambia.com domains for us, George Sarr (of http://www.gambiansonline.com)
has offered to help with graphics, design and programming work, Latjor Ndow
has also agreed to help with some Web work, and I'll be helping anyway I can.
Other people who have offered to help include, off the top of my head, Jabou
Joh, Karamba Touray, Saul Khan, and Bakary Sonko. We will be focusing on
getting the site up, and later invite people to send in articles for
inclusion in the site. You can, by the way contact us at the following
addresses:
Dr. Amadou Janneh ([log in to unmask])
Latjor Ndow ([log in to unmask])
George Sarr ([log in to unmask])
Katim S. Touray ([log in to unmask])
As always, keep the ideas coming. If anything, they go to show that we have
a pool of talent that just needs to be tapped and harnessed to make The
Gambia better. Have a great weekend, and best wishes.
Katim >>
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Hi folks,
I think it might be a great idea to contact the UN Special Representative
for the Secretary-General for Children and Armed Conflict (SRSG/CAC - trust
the UN for LONG titles), about Secretary-General Annan's up-coming visit to
The Gambia. The Special Representative is Mr. Olara Otunnu, from Uganda,
and the office is infact going to be organizing a "West Africa Conference on
War-Affected Children" in Accra, Ghana, this month, from the 27-28th.
The SRSG/CAC Web site is at:
http://www.un.org/special-rep/children-armed-conflict/
and has background info about the Office, as well as Mr. Otunnu's bio. You
can get more information about the office and it's staff this link:
http://www.un.org/special-rep/children-armed-conflict/foffice.htm
That page has a link
(http://www.un.org/special-rep/children-armed-conflict/bio.htm) to Mr.
Otunnu's biography which interestingly indicates that he once was the
President of the Makerere Univ. Student's Union. So he should be especially
receptive to pleas for help in responding to the Jammeh Government's brutal
killing of students.
For your information, one Mr. Fergus Nicoll is the Communications Office of
the the SRSG/CAC and can be reached by phone [(212) 963 8460], and by e-mail
([log in to unmask]). I suspect Mr. Nicoll must be the person we all used to
hear on the BBC (either the African or World Service).
I suggest the someone out of the groups and people who organized recent
meetings in New York City call Mr. Nicoll, or someone in the SRG/CAC office
and setup an appointment with them. While sending e-mails and petitions are
important and helpful, we need to move a step further and begin talking to
people in person. Even if we are not able to meet with Mr. Otunnu or his
office before he leaves for the Accra meetings, we should schedule a meeting
for when the Accra conference concludes. In any case, we will probably have
more information and ideas to share with them by then.
I hope this helps. Best wishes.
Katim
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From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Secreatry-General Annan's Visit to Gambia
> Abdoulaye,
>
> I think we definitely need to get these letters to Annan before he goes to
> Gambia. I have not checked with Yankuba Njie, but I am hoping that the
> petition and the two letters have been posted at the petition site. We
urge
> everyone to go there and sign these documents so we can get them out to
these
> people and organizations immediately.
>
> Jabou Joh
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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:15:06 EDT
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This is a reminder to those who have not sent in donations towards the
Massacre Action Plan which includes the retention of lawyers to assist the
victims of the shootings in Gambia etc. Please take the time ot send your
contributions to Karamba Touray or Soffie Ceesay. A lot of outrage was
expressed on the L about this atrocity, and rightly so. However, we must make
every effort to make sure that our reaction is not just limited to venting
words of outrage. This is one way we can help ensure that we make an effort
towards the possibility that justice is done, and therefore ultimately
contribute towards preventing these sorts of things from occurring in our
country.We only way we can accomplish this is if all of us do our share.
We also need to make sure that we visit the petition site and sign these
petitions once they are up again. Let us remember that the reason that those
who perpetrate these kids os atrocities against us are able to do so because
they expect the apathetic response that has been our trademark . Let us put
an end to that.
Jabou Joh
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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:28:44 EDT
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Katim,
This is a good idea, and perhaps since we are talking about forming an
umbrella organization, this task you mention here can be accomplished by the
organization in New York that already had the audience with the members of
the U.N. Security council? My apologies that I cannot find the particular
email so I could refer to them by name. However, I think we need to contact
them on this one, and I can do so if someone will send me an email of a
co0ntact person for the organzation.
Jabou Joh
Hi folks,
I think it might be a great idea to contact the UN Special Representative
for the Secretary-General for Children and Armed Conflict (SRSG/CAC - trust
the UN for LONG titles), about Secretary-General Annan's up-coming visit to
The Gambia. The Special Representative is Mr. Olara Otunnu, from Uganda,
and the office is infact going to be organizing a "West Africa Conference on
War-Affected Children" in Accra, Ghana, this month, from the 27-28th.
The SRSG/CAC Web site is at:
http://www.un.org/special-rep/children-armed-conflict/
and has background info about the Office, as well as Mr. Otunnu's bio. You
can get more information about the office and it's staff this link:
http://www.un.org/special-rep/children-armed-conflict/foffice.htm
That page has a link
(http://www.un.org/special-rep/children-armed-conflict/bio.htm) to Mr.
Otunnu's biography which interestingly indicates that he once was the
President of the Makerere Univ. Student's Union. So he should be especially
receptive to pleas for help in responding to the Jammeh Government's brutal
killing of students.
For your information, one Mr. Fergus Nicoll is the Communications Office of
the the SRSG/CAC and can be reached by phone [(212) 963 8460], and by e-mail
([log in to unmask]). I suspect Mr. Nicoll must be the person we all used to
hear on the BBC (either the African or World Service).
I suggest the someone out of the groups and people who organized recent
meetings in New York City call Mr. Nicoll, or someone in the SRG/CAC office
and setup an appointment with them. While sending e-mails and petitions are
important and helpful, we need to move a step further and begin talking to
people in person. Even if we are not able to meet with Mr. Otunnu or his
office before he leaves for the Accra meetings, we should schedule a meeting
for when the Accra conference concludes. In any case, we will probably have
more information and ideas to share with them by then.
I hope this helps. Best wishes.
Katim >>
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G-L,
Here is something sent to me to forward for your information. I know that the
U.S government representative offices are equipped to handle large influxes
of emails as this is often used by citizens to express their opinions to
their representatives and the U.S government in regards to variouws
issues.Therefore, they can probably handle large amounts of email, although
we may also opt to send them just the signed petitions.Please see below:
<< << As promised here is the contact person responsible for West African
Political Affairs for the Gambia
His name is : Donald Boyd
email address:[log in to unmask]
You can please pass this on to Gambia -L and please warn them about their
choice of language... >>
>>
Jabou
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Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:59:41 +0200
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From: Samba Goddard <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM
Peace be on to all Gambian`s
(Praise due to God! and He alone)!!!
There is no power and might except by God!
Hello fellow Gambian`s,
After all these problems that happened during the AFPRC regime.
We the general jury are here by announcing that the AFPRC regime are find
guilty of murdered.
The AFPRC regime has to step-down and stay on the side line, give chance to
those who can lead the country to a better nation for the future.
We dont want to put you in jail, because we dont want to hurt more
gambian`s, because your family members will also feel the pain, and we dont
want that to happen.
So Mr. president, step-down, together with your murderous regime.
If you insist to step-down with your regime and you think that you have to
rule by force, because you have the power, and weapon`s or whatever, then we
have another suggestion:
We the jury would like to urge you to declear a
"HOLY WAR"!!!
"Holy War" means (effort to grolify yourself), so that the conflict between
your wrong desires, the conflict within your wrong wishes and the sense of
responsibilty, this conflict is resolved and your personality become a
disciplined personality, your personality become prolific personality.
Then there will be PEACE in you.
Peace started from the human personality,
if there is no PEACE inside, in your own personal balance and tolerant. How
can you provide PEACE to others.
You have to be the region of PEACE, so that you may become the source of
PEACE, you may become the preacher of PEACE , so that the whole nation will
get PEACE from you.
The blood of a man, the respect of a man, the honour of a man, the security
and property of a man is much `Dearest` to the Almighty God! than anything
else.
Accountability and training of the spirit is very important.
Without this "Holy War" no other type of holy war can be brought to
completion.
This is the reason that when God! has mentioned His virtuous creatures, He
has given precedence to the sadiqueen, the Veracious to the Martyrs, because
even martyrdone cannot be attained without sincerity.
When we ponder over this aspect of "Holy War", we wonder what virtue or
greatness has been left outside its compass.
What manner of guidance and merit can be achieved without this "Holy
War"???.
All other virtues are branches, this alone is the root.
So Mr. president think about it!!!!!.
May God! The Almighty! bless the Gambia, guide us from our evil deeds, grant
us peace and lead us to the Straigth part.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
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Thank you for the update, Prince. I assume that the Narrs are parading a full squad but hopefully the Scorpions can keep the scoreline down.
Are you recording the game, BTW?
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The score is remains 2-0 for the "Narrs", but our boys are not playing =
badly at all. A change of tactic might produce something in the second =
half.
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Africa Strategic Studies Centre In US To Support Democracy
Africa Strategic Studies Centre In US To Support Democracy
April 20, 2000=20
NEW YORK, UN (PANA) - The interest of the US in supporting democratic =
governance in Africa led the defence department to establish the African =
Centre for Strategic Studies, a senior official of the department has =
said.
Nancy Walker, the interim director of the centre, told a press briefing =
in New York Wednesday that the initiative is to promote open dialogue =
among African military and civilian leaders in the areas of =
civil-military relations, national security strategy and defence =
economics.
The programme, she stated, was not military but aimed at breaking down =
barriers and lack of communication and understanding among different =
groups in the society.
"I wouldn't say that the US government policy toward Africa is becoming =
militarised. We see this defence department initiative as one way of =
supporting the (US) president's policy of overall engagement with Africa =
and building partnerships for the future," she noted.
"We believe that it is in the United States interest to get to know and =
work with the current and future generation of African leaders, civilian =
and military," she stated.
She added that the centre will provide forum for discussion on "issues =
that confront us all together on the continent" such as security, =
democracy and civilian control of the military.
The centre held its first seminar in Dakar, Senegal, from 1-12 November =
1999.
Before developing the initiative, Walker said the US had extensive =
consultations in Africa and Europe, seeking input from civilian and =
military experts, the academia, non-governmental organisations.
She said one of the lessons of the consultations was the need for centre =
to be conducted through a series of rotating seminars.
African and US personnel, with background in military, diplomatic and =
other civilian fields, staff the centre's headquarters in Washington.
A faculty member of the centre, Ibrahim Wani, said its focal themes are =
civil-military relations, security strategy and defence economics.
On the issue of security, he said the centre usually addresses the issue =
of how security strategies are developed, definition of national =
interest for security strategy and the regional and international =
dimensions of security as well as the economic dimensions of security.
"Here we try to steer people to a dialogue on a much broader scale to =
look at the resource and economic framework of a country as a whole and =
what the military component of the budget is and what impact it has on a =
country," Wani explained.
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African=20
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national=20
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military=20
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security as=20
well as the economic dimensions of security.
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look at=20
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military component of the budget is and what impact it has on a =
country," Wani=20
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It's red card for Jatto folks,
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Gambia-l:
I wish to commend Katim for his efforts in the development of the Free Gambia website. I don't know what his phone bill is like, but I know he has been making a lot of calls lately--all in the name of a Free Gambia.
On the matter of FreeGambia.org, I think we should also encourage the administrators of other Gambia-related sites to assist in disseminating information that is deemed crucial to the cause for freedom in the Gambia. By the same token, we can make use of findings or material provided by these sites (gambian.com, gambiansonline.com, gamraleigh.com, atlgambians.com, gambianreunion.com, gambianet.com, qanet.gm, etc.). JammehMustGo.com is also active, even though under construction. Its focus is decidedly narrower, and borrows slogans/inspiration from Gambia-l.
That's all!
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YAYA MUST
RESIGN (PART-TWO)
The news that Yaya went to the hospital to see the
children he had ordered for their killing but were
fortunate to be saved by god was the climax of his
mockery to the bereaved families and the entire
Gambian people. Don’t be surprised therefore if by
next week he goes on the air with recommendations to
have the families compensated financially by
government for the death of the children. The Kaninlai
butcher is now on his usual appeasing strategy. After
killing so many Gambians and then successfully
wriggling out of them in the past, he now believes he
has perfected that demonic talent to the point where
he could get away with the worst kind scenario.
Killing the school children would be something he
would celebrate in his private moments and might
perhaps boast happily about sending the kids six-foot
deep. He must resign for this crime.
There are certain things that I am sure he would now
be working on to survive his crime in the eyes of the
general public. He would start distancing himself from
Isatou Njie Saidy and her team that tried desperately
to defend the shooting. It is even possible that he
may fire some of them if the public pressure is
sustained in the face of his slick efforts. There is
no doubt in my mind also that he would be banking
heavily on his newly appointed minister of justice Mr.
Pap Choi Yassin Secka to cover up for him where every
thing should fail. So Mr. Secka must brace up for the
two critical options on his drawing board. If he does
not make things good for Yaya and clears his name
altogether, he should be prepared to get the sack very
soon like all his predecessors suffered. For example,
if Mr. Secka for a moment tries to confirm the
undeniable fact that there were no rubber-bullet guns
used but AK47’s with live rounds in the operation, he
would be seen as deviating from the expectations of
Yaya and would no doubt lose his new job. Certainly,
the establishment of that truth should be the opening
passage to almost all the facts, because those who
lied about that would be forced to confess. And their
confession would clearly hang Yaya by the balls. But
on a more limited perception, Mr. Secka may choose to
join the bandwagon of the intellectual prostitutes for
the purpose of keeping his job and not considering the
permanent destruction of his historical image. The
usual argument that the veteran lawyer is well
cultured and schooled and would not therefore
compromise his integrity shall never sway me,
especially after experiencing Fafa Mbye’s era. Too
many outstanding intellectuals have gone down in
history with monsters like Adolf Hitler, a reality
that still puzzles the minds of analytical historians.
Samuel Doe went down with a lot of them as well, not
forgetting Bokassa and Musa Trawalleh the child
killers. So Yaya the latest child killer would
certainly sink with some of them as well.
Apart from depending on his new Minister of Justice to
help him out, Yaya would also retreat to his oracles
(jalangs), at kaninlai. He would therefore sacrifice a
lot of cattle and other animals for charity,
distributing thousands of cola-nuts to praying grounds
and soaking himself in nasty liquid charms “saafara”,
with the strong conviction that it would work for him
to escape his criminal actions.
But I want to remind him how those foolish things
don’t work for him most of the time. After the
Farafenni attack for example on the 8th of November
1996, he instructed his former guard commander
Lieutenant Landing Sanneh to carry out one of the most
primitive rituals in the barracks. State guard
personnel were sent to bury several bags of ordinary
salt everywhere in the camp. This could be confirmed
with those soldiers serving at 2Infantry Battalion,
Farafenni barracks. When we asked Yaya why, he said he
was advised by his juju-man to do so which would be
the final guarantee that no army camp would ever be
attacked by surprise again. Eight months after, on the
21st of July 1997, Kartong was attacked in the most
surprising manner ever imagined. When we met him
after, the idiot had totally forgotten about the
previous year’s rituals and had to tell us that he had
dreamt about the Kartong attack weeks ago but that he
had performed stronger rituals that made it a failure.
In that same year in 1997, he almost died from another
ritual he was trying to perform with wild bees at
Kaninlai village. Captain L. T. Tamba was there and
was a live witness to that embarrassing incident. Yaya
trying to mystify himself before us told everybody
including his guards not to follow him under one big
tree where he said he was going to discuss certain
things with his ancestral bees. He even warned us that
if we followed him under the tree, the bees could
sting us and that would mean death to any one stung.
So we stayed away from a reasonable distance watching.
However, shortly after he stated acting as if he was
talking to the bees buzzing around their hives on the
branches, the insects suddenly attacked and almost
killed him while he ran all over the dusty bushes. If
it had not been for the guards, his ancestral bees
would have probably sting him to death. Yet the moron
had to later send an old haggard-looking woman from
the village to tell us that the bees attacked Yaya
because they were upset with him for not greeting them
when he first arrived in the village that morning.
This is not a joke Gambians; this is the real
mentality of the president leading our country. If he
should therefore dream that killing school children
was the right thing to do as may be prescribed by his
“jalangs” he would do it and later retreat to them to
save his neck.
Turning to the soldiers now, it is important for you
to know how badly Yaya has destroyed your image all
over the world for the very crimes he has been
committing particularly in this last one. After using
you in this unforgivable crime, he is now pretending
not to be part of what happened on April 10. So all of
you have a great responsibility to worry about. You
must clear this negative image by doing what you are
suppose to do for the Gambian people. If Yaya would
not resign, you must remove him out of power and call
for the civilians to organize elections within three
months and give them the political power that belongs
to them. That would be the only way you can restore
your credibility once more. Yaya being around you will
destroy all the prestige and honor you used to enjoy
as professional soldiers. YAYA MUST RESIGN! YAYA MUST
RESIGN!
Ebou Colly
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Sister, we have a committee meeting at 7.00pm tonight and another
mobilization meeting tomorrow afternoon, at 2.00pm, same venue [Gambian
Community Center, Jerome Avenue, Bronx, NY. Phone # [718]293-0500; [718]
842-6162; or email: [log in to unmask] We're vigorously pulling strings with
Gambian employees at the UN, not only to arrange/schedule a meeting for us
with brother Kofi Annan, but also, to hand deliver hundreds of copies of
signed petitions, to Yahya Jammeh. If this materializes, I will send out an
SOS to all the sites for all concerned gambian's to forward copies of
petitions or letters to us. Sister, we will follow up on the lead you
provided, Thanks a million, INSHA ALLAH the next generation will reward all
of you.
Peace...SAUL
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The match ended 2-0 and there nothing spectacular happened in the second =
half except a disallowed goal from Morocco and the sending off of Jatto =
Ceesay for spitting on a "Narr".=20
However, next time better. This is the first time in 29 years that I =
see our national team "Live". This may be funny to some of you but it is =
the honest truth. I am convinced that there is certainly some =
development in our style of the game.
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Sorry guys, this is a follow up on this issue, if there's anyone out there,
that are related to or, knows any of the Senior Gambian Employees {NOT
REPRESENTATIVES AT THE GAMBIA MISSION} please take them to task on this
important issue. We have to present these documents to brother Kofi Annan.
They can contact us at [718] 842-6162, or email: [log in to unmask]
PEACE
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Prince, did you record the game by any chance? Also, I have completely lost track of who plays for the national squad these days, and, with the exception of Jatto Ceesay, I would be unable to name a single starter. Did you see any good prospects, and finally do you have a copy of the match on tape?
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Gambia-L,
First of all, find attached at the bottom of this mail a french version of the original petition. French speakers on the List may please make atlerations and finally pass it
on to Pope. I hope Pope has the german version after Anrea Pox Dampha's useful corrections (this version is now final I guess).
I will be away from the 24th of April to the 2nd of May attending a conference in France. I will be monitoring the List from there. To reach me, please use:
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[log in to unmask] . Sometimes important mails get "lost" in my account for G-L (Peter Sanyang's mail for example only came to my notice yesterday. Sorry
for not responding on time Peter).
Notwithstanding being away, arrangement has been made with the bank hosting the Gambia-L account, such that transactions can be effected per e-mail or telephone contact with
the bank.
When the pressure goes down I'll be back on the forum.
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Vendredi 14 avril 2000
Monsieur / Madame,
c’est un chapitre des plus tragiques qui vient de s’inscrire dans l’histoire
de notre nation, à laquelle nous sommes tant attachés, la Gambie, les 10 et
11 avril 2000. Les forces de l’ordre ont ouvert le feu, faisant 14 morts et
au moins 28 blessés, y compris un membre bénévole de la Croix rouge, le
journaliste Omar Barrow. Ces évènements se sont déroulés pendant une
manifestation pacifique organisée par des étudiants. Les étudiants
protestaient contre les tortures et l’assassinat dont a été victime un autre
étudiant, Ebrima Barry, entre les mains de membres du corps des
sapeurs-pompiers. Ils manifestaient aussi contre le viol d’une jeune
écolière de 13 ans, Binta Manneh, par un officier de police. Depuis lors,
des centaines d’étudiants ont été arrêtés et leurs parents éperdus ne savent
plus si leurs enfants doivent être cherchés parmi les morts ou les détenus.
Nous, signataires de ce document, citoyennes et citoyens préoccupés par
cette grave situation, en appelons à vous-même et à l’organisation à
laquelle vous appartenez, vous priant de bien vouloir continuer à faire
pression sur le gouvernement de la République de Gambie afin que celui-ci
prennent immédiatement les mesures suivantes :
o ordonner aux forces de l’ordre de mettre fin à tout usage abusif
de la force contre la population civile ;
o procéder à la libération de tous les étudiants actuellement en
détention ;
o communiquer le nom de toutes les victimes et permettre que leur
corps soit remis à leur famille afin que toutes les victumes
puissent être inhumées décemment ;
o ouvrir une enquête indépendante pour éclaircir les circonstances
des coups de feu et établir les responsabilités ;
o veiller à ce que tous les membres des forces de l’ordre qui ont
porté atteinte aux Droits de l’Homme en faisant un usage abusif de
la force soient poursuivis selon les dispositions prévues par la
loi, avec toute la rigueur nécessaire ;
o ordonner aux forces de l’ordre de faire preuve d’une extrême
retenue lors des manifestations prévues pour la semaine
prochaine ;
o veiller à ce que les responsables du meurtre d’Ebrima Barry et du
viol de Binta Manneh soient condamnés aux peines maximales prévues
par la loi dans les meileurs délais;
o veiller à ce que tous les membres des forces de l’ordre soient
tenus de respecter la Constitution de la République de Gambie
ainsi que tous les codes, traités, lois et conventions dont la
Gambie est signataire;
Résolument confiants dans le soutien que vous ne manquerez de nous accorder
dans cette situation d’urgence, nous profitons de l’occasion qui nous est
offerte de vous adresser nos remerciements les plus sincères, à vous et à
l’organisation à laquelle vous appartenez, pour l’attention que vous prêtez
aux affaires affectant notre pays ainsi que nos concitoyennes et
concitoyens,
avec nos meilleurs sentiments,
des citoyennes et citoyens de la République de Gambie soucieux du devenir de
leur pays
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Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> Katim,
>
> I would like to assist in any way I can on this. However, I have to
register
> my opposition to the offer of no prosecution and a generous pension to
> Jammeh. That is a proposal that I oppose vehemently since thses people
have
> already robbed our national coffers, and deserve no pension at all, not to
> mention a generous one. This pension would not have been an issue of
debate
> had this administration carried out their assigned duties for the Gambian
> people, but in my opinion, they have instead, robbed, pillaged and
murdered,
> and therefore have more or less deprived themselves of this priviledge.
> Pensions are given to show appreciation for services rendered, and their
is a
> nightmare, not a service to be appreciated and rewarded.
> Regarding granting them immunity, that would be the greatest miscarriage
of
> justice in our history, rivalled only by the ones being levied against our
> people by this very group for which we are proposing immunity for.
> If these two points can be eliminated from this proposal, then you have my
> cooperation, otherwise, no thanks.This proposal should call for the
> unconditional removal of Jammeh and his band of gypsies from the backs of
the
> Gambian people, and nothing else. That is the only fair stand we should
take,
> and nothing else.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> In a message dated 4/22/00 1:01:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask]
> writes:
>
> << Hi folks,
>
> I am writing to seek help in preparing a position paper that will be used
to
> work toward a peaceful end of the Jammeh government. You might recall
that
> earlier this week, I informed the list that I was fortunate to meet
> Wisconsin's Senator Russell Feingold, a member of the Senate Foreign
> Relations Committee, and also the Ranking Member of that Committee's
Africa
> Sub-Committee.
> >>
>
__
Hello Jabou!
Thank you for speaking my mind like I could never do it myself. Just about
two hours ago I was talking to a man from Sierra-Leon whom I met at a
friend's house about what Gambians worldwide are doing about the brutal
massacre of April 10th.
The conversation somehow drifted to the situation in Sierra-Leon. The man
literally BEGGED me not to support any actions that are geared towards
granting amnesty to the "rebels" in Sierra-Leon. These criminals should be
punished for the crimes they've committed and continue to commit against
defenceless people. They must account for their barbaric deeds, from the
murder of Koro Ceesay, and all those other BLACK COFFEEs, to the murder of
those young fruits of the Land!
These murderers must confess to their crimes and be punished even if we have
to try them in absentia. The Gambia as a nation should NEVER give the
pursuit of Justice for those Flowers of our Nation. By bringing these
criminals to justice we'll at the same time be saying loud and clear:
"Never Again!"
Regards.
Kabir.
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Jabou,
I share your views, there should' nt be any comprise with Jammeh, the guy
has stolen enough from the masses. He and his gang has done enough killings
and tortures we will never forget. He need to be prosecuted with his gang,
that way we can set a standard for any person wanting to lead the country.
If Jammeh should get immunity which he managed to slip into the
constitution, get a generous pension what message are we sending to the
people. Is it that you can take over power, steal, bully, toture, detain,
kill etc., get a generous pension and be protected by the same people you
reduced to nothing.
We have to set an example so that the likes of Jammeh will never be born
again in the history of the Gambia. The nation has to be protected from the
likes of Jammeh. The position paper is good but these two points are a
matter of concern to me because we are not dealing with a short term issue
but a long term one. Something that will guide us from all kinds of inhuman
treatment. For the government to deny the people the right to self
determination and impose on them the status of slaves is morally
indefensible.
The Struggle Continues!!!
Ndey Jobarteh
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From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: 22 April 2000 17:07
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>Katim,
>
>I would like to assist in any way I can on this. However, I have to
register
>my opposition to the offer of no prosecution and a generous pension to
>Jammeh. That is a proposal that I oppose vehemently since thses people have
>already robbed our national coffers, and deserve no pension at all, not to
>mention a generous one. This pension would not have been an issue of debate
>had this administration carried out their assigned duties for the Gambian
>people, but in my opinion, they have instead, robbed, pillaged and
murdered,
>and therefore have more or less deprived themselves of this priviledge.
>Pensions are given to show appreciation for services rendered, and their is
a
>nightmare, not a service to be appreciated and rewarded.
>Regarding granting them immunity, that would be the greatest miscarriage of
>justice in our history, rivalled only by the ones being levied against our
>people by this very group for which we are proposing immunity for.
>If these two points can be eliminated from this proposal, then you have my
>cooperation, otherwise, no thanks.This proposal should call for the
>unconditional removal of Jammeh and his band of gypsies from the backs of
the
>Gambian people, and nothing else. That is the only fair stand we should
take,
>and nothing else.
>
>Jabou Joh
>
>In a message dated 4/22/00 1:01:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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>writes:
>
><< Hi folks,
>
> I am writing to seek help in preparing a position paper that will be used
to
> work toward a peaceful end of the Jammeh government. You might recall
that
> earlier this week, I informed the list that I was fortunate to meet
> Wisconsin's Senator Russell Feingold, a member of the Senate Foreign
> Relations Committee, and also the Ranking Member of that Committee's
Africa
> Sub-Committee.
> >>
>
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Hi,
I mistakenly wrote:
> The Gambia as a nation should NEVER give the
> pursuit of Justice for those Flowers of our Nation.
I meant to write:
The Gambia as a nation should NEVER give UP the
pursuit of Justice for those Flowers of our Nation.
Regards.
Kabir
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I can refer you to someone. Please contact me at
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>
> FYI. Please help if you can.
>
> Katim
>
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> Subject: in need of Fulani interpreter
> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 07:44:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Lilyan Kay <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
> Greetings
>
> I am a nurse midwife in Seattle, Washington. We
> have a patient from
> Senegal who speaks only Fulani and are in search of
> an interpreter. A
> female interpreter would be vastly preferable. If
> there is no one
> available in the Seattle area, phone interpretation
> is a possibility. Any
> advice on resources would be greatly appreciated -
> local translation
> services have not as yet been of any help.
>
> best regards
>
> Lily Kay
>
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Jabou,
Sister Dearest, I could not say it better myself. It
makes me proud to read your letter. It makes me proud
to know that Gambia has such fine female citizens as
your self. For in the wake of the betrayal by Mrs.
Isatou Njie Saidy,a betrayal she layed at the door of
all mothers, and the whole female species in general,
it is nice to witness a daughter of the Gambia display
such concern, love, and intellect. May God bless you,
my sister. And I hope that Mr. Njie does add this to
the petition. Maybe you can E-mail it to him at
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JAARAAMAH, JEREHJEFF, ABAHRAHKAH.
--- Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> G-L,
>
> Here is a copy of a letter I sent to the Senegalese
> government on behalf of
> the students who have fled to Senegal, and whose
> repatriation is being sought
> by the regime in Gambia. May I request that Mr Njai
> put this at the petition
> website, and may I request one and all to please go
> there and add your
> signature so we can send this out as soon as
> possible. Thanks to all.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> To: The Government of Senegal.
> From: All Justice loving Gambians .
>
> Dear President Wade.
>
> We have been notified that the Gambia government
> has requested Senegal to
> repatriate the students who have fled into Senegal
> to save their lives from
> the murderous regime in Gambia that has already
> killed our children in cold
> blood, and who are now hunting these students like
> wild animals.
>
> We call upon you as a neighbour and as a brother
> who has the best interest
> of the Gambian people at heart, not to turn our
> students over to this regime
> who will probably turture and murder them. Some of
> the students who have been
> detained by the Gambia Security forces have not been
> charged or allowed
> visits with their families, and the whereabouts of
> some of these students in
> the hands of the security forces have not been made
> known to the public or
> their families, even though the government has said
> that they will conduct a
> thorough and fair investigation. Time and experience
> has shown us that we
> cannot put any trust in the promises given by this
> regime.
>
> It is also a general concensus by all sober
> thinking Gambians, as well as
> all justice loving people the World over, that the
> security forces opened
> fire on students when they were exercising their
> constitutional right to
> demonstrate against what was seen as a gross
> miscarriage of justice. Two of
> their fellow students were killed and raped
> respectively without the
> government making any attempts to bring the culprits
> to justice, and this was
> the reason for the demonstration . Infact,of the two
> cases the students were
> protesting , the rape case was not even looked into,
> and in the murder case,
> the autopsy report was falsified and the
> perpetrators left to go scot free
> until this tragedy forced them to say that the
> perpetrators are now in
> custody. Time will tell if this claim is true.
>
> We implore you in the name of all that binds our
> two countries together,
> and these are many, from blood relationships to a
> timeless common history,
> not to repatriate these students to what could
> undoubtedly be a dismal end
> for such young lives.
>
> The atrocity of firing live bullets into a crowd of
> young demonstartors was
> perpetrated on our country by the government of the
> day, and yet, the best
> thing they have given the Gambian people is a
> shameless denial, and a failure
> to face up to the responsibility of inflicting this
> tragedy on our once
> peaceful and peace loving country.We wish from the
> bottom of our hearts that
> this regime would remove itself from the backs of
> the Gambian people once and
> for all.
>
> Ours is a dictatorship where nothing happens without
> the blessing of our
> President, and yet, he stood before the Gambian
> public and pretended that he
> was not responsible for this atrocity. Why then are
> his enforcers hunting
> down our children in cold blood? This denial and
> callousness is a nightmare
> that is hovering over the heads of all Gambians the
> Whole World over. We are
> desolate, and in the grips of nightmares since this
> terrible inhumane act,
> the likes of which we never envisioned occurring in
> our country. We implore
> you not to worsen this nightmare for us by
> repatriating our children to their
> doom.
>
> From all indications,, it is clear that every
> attempt is being made to
> inflict even more pain and human rights abuses on
> these students with this
> endless witch hunt, and the rampant arrest of
> students all over the country
> since this tragedy unfolded.
>
> We implore you in the name of Allah almighty, as a
> brother and a neighbour,
> to make every attempt to save the lives of these
> poor Gambian students by not
> only refraining from repatriating them, but also to
> do everything in your
> power to ensure their safety in Senegal.We put you
> in charge of their lives
> with the confidence that this trust will not be
> betrayed. Thank you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
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Dear Katim:
This is a worthwhile project and one worth taking up with the senator.
The outline of your proposal is very comprehensive as well.
Coincidentally, I just completed a 30-page manuscript on The Gambia to
be included as a book chapter in a forthcoming book on LIBERALIZATION
AND DEMOCRACY IN AFRICA, edited by John Mbaku.
The chapter "The Military and Democratization in The Gambia" does just
what you are looking for. It traces and analyzes events from Jawara to
the April 10 & 11 Massacres. Send me a private note and I will send it
by attachment. If I can be of any further assistance on this project,
do not hesitate to contact me.
Abdoulaye
No justice, no peace!
"Katim S. Touray" wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I am writing to seek help in preparing a position paper that will be used to
> work toward a peaceful end of the Jammeh government. You might recall that
> earlier this week, I informed the list that I was fortunate to meet
> Wisconsin's Senator Russell Feingold, a member of the Senate Foreign
> Relations Committee, and also the Ranking Member of that Committee's Africa
> Sub-Committee.
>
> To recap, I briefed Senator Feingold about the tragic events of April 10 and
> 11 in The Gambia, the worldwide outrage the events evoked in the Gambian and
> peace-loving community, and mentioned to him that we would be needing help
> from him and other people that are working globally on issues of human
> rights and democracy. He referred me to his Aide, whom I also gave more
> detail about the various demonstrations and petitions that Gambians the
> world over were working on, and longer-term objectives to ensure that such
> mayhem does not happen in The Gambia again.
>
> I told Senator Feingold's Aide that we are working on building a coalition
> of groups, and ultimately an umbrella organization to spear-head efforts at
> redressing the recent killings in The Gambia, but more importantly, to work
> toward a Gambia that's free, democratic, and open. I told him that we will
> be preparing a paper that details the facts of the case against President
> Jammeh, and would include proposals for a peaceful end of the Jammeh
> government, as well as a mechanism for achieving that end.
>
> Well, I'm glad to report that Senator Feingold's office has sustained their
> interest in the case. It was just this morning (Friday, April 21) that I
> received a call from one of the Senator's Aides in Washington, DC, to
> follow-up on my meeting with the Senator. I had an extensive chat with her,
> and informed her that we were still working on getting an umbrella
> organization together, and also preparing a position paper to send them. In
> the mean time, I referred her to the Gambia-L archives for her to review the
> reactions that recent killings have been generating.
>
> I also gave the Senator's Aide an overview of some of the longer-term
> solutions that I have been suggesting. In particular, I informed her that
> ultimately, President Jammeh has to agree to a peaceful handover of power to
> a transitional national unity government, and an agreement to tell us the
> truth about the fates of the many people who lost their lives in
> circumstances that are as yet, not fully explained; at least satisfactorily.
> In exchange, President Jammeh and his officials will be offered amnesty from
> prosecution, as well as a lifetime pensions. Furthermore, the victims
> families would be compensated by the Gambia government, with a view toward
> alleviating any hardship they might suffer because of the untimely deaths of
> their loved ones.
>
> May I emphasize that the above ideas are not set in stone. Indeed, they are
> just that, ideas to be debated and refined (maybe even rejected) on the
> basis of a open dialog on what's best for our nation. Toward this end, I
> would like to ask those interested and able to help in the preparation of a
> position paper that will be structured as follows:
>
> 1. Introduction
> - Background information about The Gambia
> - The April 10 and 11 killings
> - An overview of the paper, and the issues it addresses
> 2. A Historical Analysis of the Jammeh Administration
> 2.1. Government
> - The AFPRC Government
> - Transition to civilian rule
> - The Second Republic so far
> 2.2. Economic and Development Policies
> - Economic policies of the Jammeh administration
> - Analysis of budgetary allocations under Jammeh - spending on civilian
> and development programs, compared to military expenditure
> - Analysis of spending trends
> - Sources of government financing under Jammeh: taxes and excises,
> internal debt (treasury bills, bonds); external debts (bilateral
> governmental and private)
> 2.3. Democracy, Human Rights, and Press Freedom
> - Political activity under Jammeh
> - Jammeh's human rights record
> - Press freedom under Jammmeh
> 2.4. Foreign Policy
> - Sub-regional policy - Senegal/Guinea Bissau/West Africa
> - Regional and International Issues
> 2.5. Military Affairs
> - A history of the Gambian military
> - The role of the military and security agencies in The Gambia politics
> - Military high-handedness, and excesses against civilians
> 3. Proposal for a Peaceful Handover of Power
> - Proposal for a peaceful transfer of power from President Jammeh to a
> transitional government of national unity
> - Framework for implementing the proposal
> - NOTE: (I can draft this part, and send it out along with other parts
> to Gambia-L for comments and suggestions for improving it)
> 4. Alternative Actions if the Proposal is not Accepted
> - I can draft this also
> 5. Help Needed from the International Community
> - I can draft this also
> 6. Conclusions
>
> I told Senator Feingold's Aide that I will send her the paper by the end of
> next week. For this reason, I would appreciate it if we can work double
> time on this to get it out to the Senator's Office. I'm hoping that a
> number of Gambia-L subscribers have in the past written papers or articles
> addressing many if not all of the issues I mentioned above. Thus, it should
> be a matter of revising and summarizing these papers, and merging them with
> contributions from others to yield us something we can work with. Matter of
> fact, I found (via the Gambia-L archives) the US State Dept. report,
> published earlier this year, on human rights in The Gambia. It's worth a
> read, and still available online at:
>
> http://www.state.gov/www/global/human_rights/1999_hrp_report/gambia.html
>
> For your information, I'll be more than happy to edit whatever material is
> sent me, and collate them into a logical and consistent whole. I will then
> forward the draft to the list for people to comment on it, and sign-on
> before we send it out.
>
> That's about it for now. Please feel free to contact me directly at
> [log in to unmask] if you have any questions. Have a great weekend, and best
> wishes.
>
> Katim
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Subject: MILLION 'GAMBIANS' MARCH!! 'LET'S CHOOSE A DAY'
After a long dialogue with a good friend of mine over the recent human
rights abuses by our infamous government, the idea of a Million'Gambians'
March came into mind as if it was a message from the Most High. I'm not
a messiah and am not going to pretend as one either, am NOT on drugs
either. Frankly, I only take two tablets of paracetamol a day as suggested
by my therapist from this anger management class am taking thanks to this
nauseatic 'beef' I have over these Morons, The Jammeh Crime Team. Other
than that, ain't darn thing change. I still wear my pants one leg at a
time so I guess am alright.You know alright, but not really alright. Well,
let's get to the PROPOSAL. It goes as this ladies & gentlemen:
IT IS PARAMOUNT THAT WE ALL 'CHOOSE A DAY', A DAY WHEN ALL 'CONCERN
GAMBIANS' JOIN HAND IN HAND AND DEMONSTRATE ALL THE WAY TO THE STATE HOUSE
AND REGAIN THE PRESIDENCY AND COUNTRY THAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS, NOT SOME
CHAOTIC LUNATICS. A DAY OF REPARATION,ATONEMENT,JUSTICE,PATRIOTISM AND
FINALLY PEACE FOR ALL AND SUNDRY. LOOK AT IT AS A DAY YOU WOULD REALLY
PROUD TO BE A GAMBIAN.
BUT, folks I can't stress this enoungh WE MUST CHOOSE A DATE. With the help
of technology, funds and human will, we can disseminate as much information
as possible to educate/inform the uneducated/uninformed and put an end to
our miseries. We can't afford to procrastinate nor can we dwell on excuses
that put us in our very own miseries in the first place. I leave you all
with this thought. "When are we ready to really take action?" Suggest a
DATE please. A day of reparation. Let's get rid of these 'Bloody Fools'
before another another tragedy strikes. I would hate to see another parent
mourning for their child all because we failed to prevent the expected.
MR. MAKAVELI
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Sounds a good idea.
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PS* For those who don't know who Mr Makaveli really is, a birth certificate
will be provided up request...
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After a long dialogue with a good friend of mine over the recent human
rights abuses by our infamous government, the idea of a Million'Gambians'
March came into mind as if it was a message from the Most High. I'm not
a messiah and am not going to pretend as one either, am NOT on drugs
either. Frankly, I only take two tablets of paracetamol a day as suggested
by my therapist from this anger management class am taking thanks to this
nauseatic 'beef' I have over these Morons, The Jammeh Crime Team. Other
than that, ain't darn thing change. I still wear my pants one leg at a
time so I guess am alright.You know alright, but not really alright. Well,
let's get to the PROPOSAL. It goes as this ladies & gentlemen:
IT IS PARAMOUNT THAT WE ALL 'CHOOSE A DAY', A DAY WHEN ALL 'CONCERN
GAMBIANS' JOIN HAND IN HAND AND DEMONSTRATE ALL THE WAY TO THE STATE HOUSE
AND REGAIN THE PRESIDENCY AND COUNTRY THAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS, NOT SOME
CHAOTIC LUNATICS. A DAY OF REPARATION,ATONEMENT,JUSTICE,PATRIOTISM AND
FINALLY PEACE FOR ALL AND SUNDRY. LOOK AT IT AS A DAY YOU WOULD REALLY
PROUD TO BE A GAMBIAN.
BUT, folks I can't stress this enoungh WE MUST CHOOSE A DATE. With the help
of technology, funds and human will, we can disseminate as much information
as possible to educate/inform the uneducated/uninformed and put an end to
our miseries. We can't afford to procrastinate nor can we dwell on excuses
that put us in our very own miseries in the first place. I leave you all
with this thought. "When are we ready to really take action?" Suggest a
DATE please. A day of reparation. Let's get rid of these 'Bloody Fools'
before another another tragedy strikes. I would hate to see another parent
mourning for their child all because we failed to prevent the expected.
MR. MAKAVELI
A VERY CONCERN CITIZEN.
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Subject: Does anyone know who this this guys is?
Maybe you can help. There is this cyberNIA that is very annoying and he
does nothing but spamming my e-mails. I've tried the DELETE button 'cause
am not in the mood to play e-mail tag with a loser. Anyway, he goes by name
MOMODOU SILLAH and if am correct his e-mail address is <[log in to unmask]>
Has anyone been harassed by this cyberNIA? Does he sound familiar to you
or is it just a deja-vu? Am loosing my calm, your advice please anyone?.
Thank You
Mr. Makaveli.
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In my last posting about the match between Morocco and The Gambia I =
stated that,
"nothing spectacular happened in the second half except a disallowed =
goal by the Moroccans and the sending-off of Jatto Ceesay for spitting =
on a "narr" ".
As a Gambian, I take no pride in the last phrase "spitting on a narr", =
neither do I condone such an action as something spectacular. I, =
personally, found it utterly disgusting to say the least. I could have =
written the sentence without the phrase, but I was only giving the =
reason why Jatto Ceesay was sent-off.
However, I wish to extend my unreserved apology to all who think that I =
was being jubilant for Jatto' action and I also ask for a re-analysis of =
my statement to verify that I do not consider "spitting on a Narr" as =
spectacular, but the sending-off of Jatto Ceesay.=20
I hope I will be forgiven for any distress I might have caused with that =
phrase.
Prince
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second half=20
except a disallowed goal by the Moroccans and the sending-off of Jatto =
Ceesay=20
for spitting on a "narr" ".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As a Gambian, I take no pride in the =
last phrase=20
"spitting on a narr", neither do I condone such an action as something=20
spectacular. I, personally, found it utterly disgusting to say the =
least. I=20
could have written the sentence without the phrase, but I was only =
giving <FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff>the reason why Jatto Ceesay was =
sent-off</FONT>.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However, I wish to extend my unreserved =
apology to=20
all who think that I was being jubilant for Jatto' action and =
I also=20
ask for a re-analysis of my statement to verify that I do not =
consider=20
"spitting on a Narr" as spectacular, but the sending-off of Jatto=20
Ceesay. </FONT></DIV>
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From the Guardian interactive
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Tokyo backs plans to set up Asian IMF=20
Charlotte Denny=20
Saturday April 22, 2000=20
Japan is backing a plan by Asian governments to set up a multibillion-dollar=
=20
emergency fund to defend their currencies from speculative attacks of the=20
kind which triggered the global financial crisis in 1997.=20
A Japanese newspaper reported yesterday that Tokyo has thrown its weight=20
behind the fund, which was approved in principle last month by finance=20
ministers from the Association of South East Asian Nations, Asean.
Under an existing $200m (=A3126m) currency stabilisation arrangement, Asean=20
central banks can draw on credit lines with each other to prop up their=20
currencies when speculators attack. But with trillions traded daily on the=20
world's foreign exchanges, the existing fund is too small to take on the=20
might of the markets when they target a currency.
The new fund could mobilise ten of billions of dollars, according to a repor=
t=20
yesterday in the Tokyo-based Sankei Shimbun newspaper.
Japan, China and South Korea, which are not Asean members, have been invited=
=20
to join, to beef up the kitty.
Policymakers hope it will prevent a repeat of the spectacular currency=20
crashes which swept through the region in the summer of 1997.
Speculators trained their sights first on the Thai baht, which lost half its=
=20
value in a few weeks, and then the Philippine peso, the Malaysian ringgit,=20
the Indonesian rupiah and the Korean won which all plunged to record lows.
The currency swap facility was set up after the crisis after plans for a=20
fully fledged Asian Monetary Fund to bail out stricken economies ran into=20
opposition from the West. The US, other western nations and the Internationa=
l=20
Monetary Fund fear an AMF - first mooted by Japan - would undermine the IMF'=
s=20
role as the world's emergency lender.
The beefed-up emergency fund is intended to compliment the fund's role by=20
helping countries stabilise their currencies in advance of IMF programmes.=20
But Washington is likely to renew its objections on the grounds that a rival=
=20
mechanism will devalue the IMF.
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Debate=20
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Third world still can't see past western self-interest=20
John Edmonds=20
Monday April 17, 2000=20
The strains generated by international free trade in global markets surfaced=
=20
on the streets of Seattle and are resurfacing again in Washington.=20
Globalisation has spread fear throughout the world. Economic power is being=20
concentrated through massive mergers. It is easy to understand why the World=
=20
Trade Organisation, perceived as an instrument of wealthy corporations,=20
incurs opposition.=20
As rapid economic change spreads insecurity, General Motors packs more punch=
=20
than some European Union member states. In the United States, many fear that=
=20
their jobs will be exported to the developing world. British workers share=20
their concerns. At the end of 1999, the livelihoods of some 6,000 GMB union=20
members employed in the clothing industry were jeopardised by Marks &=20
Spencer's decision to terminate long-standing contracts with British=20
suppliers. The jobs were to move to the developing world where workers would=
=20
be paid 4% of British labour rates.=20
In more than 70 of the world's poorest nations, nearly 30m workers are=20
employed in so-called free trade zones, making goods such as jeans for=20
western markets. These employees, mainly women, work up to 16 hours a day in=
=20
brutal conditions. Accidents are common. There are no trade unions and no=20
labour regulations to offer basic protection.=20
The multinationals' search for cheaper labour does not stop at replacing a=20
protected, developed-world workforce with sweated adult labour. There are=20
some 250m economically active children aged between five and 14. The WTO has=
=20
said that its members will respect International Labour Organisation core=20
standards against the worst forms of child labour. But there has been little=
=20
progress.=20
Labour standards are a fundamental human right. Yet, as demonstrated at=20
Seattle, many developing countries oppose their introduction because they se=
e=20
them as disguised western self-interest. In their view, developed countries=20
are attempting to narrow the labour cost gap to protect their jobs.=20
But if this is the motive, the policy will surely fail. Good health and=20
safety standards are cheap compared with wages. For example, the GMB has=20
developed a needle guard for sewing machines that costs only a pound.=20
No one is suggesting that factories in Sri Lanka should immediately pay the=20
same wage rates as factories in the United States. The arguments about child=
=20
labour and safety have to be based on principle.=20
The trade union movement has argued for minimum employment protection=20
standards by which nations and transnational corporations must abide. The=20
positive outcome at Seattle was that many countries previously opposed to=20
discussing the issue began to reconsider. The challenge is to ensure that=20
developing countries gain from the introduction of safety standards and the=20
right to join independent trade unions.=20
A first step would be to set up a permanent ILO-WTO working group. This body=
=20
should propose mechanisms to integrate labour rights into WTO rules and trad=
e=20
agreements. At the same time, industrialised countries should shun=20
protectionist measures.=20
The ILO should be given authority to monitor compliance with labour standard=
s=20
and to develop incentives for encouraging good practice.=20
In a civilised society, we have to work together or each will suffer alone.=20
The WTO rules must be reformed to enable governments and consumers to=20
distinguish between products on ethical, environmental and health grounds.=20
=E2=80=A2 John Edmonds is General Secretary of GMB. This is an edited extrac=
t from=20
his contribution to After Seattle: Globalisation and its discontents=20
published tomorrow by Catalyst. Full details: www.catalyst-trust.co.uk=20
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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 09:47:22 EDT
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IMF in need of a new faith
Larry Elliott
Monday April 17, 2000
The timing could not have been better. Everybody, but everybody from the
global financial community was in town for the spring meetings of the World
Bank and the International Monetary Fund and what happens? Shares go crashing
on Wall Street.
For someone who has long argued that America has been dangerously gripped by
a stock-market mania, there was something utterly compelling about watching
the US TV channels that have been complicit in whipping up the frenzy trying
to explain to their viewers what had gone wrong.
Actually, it was quite simple. The technology sector - and to a lesser extent
the whole of the US stock market - was ludicrously over-valued and was
destined to fall. On Friday it did.
Eddie George appeared remarkably relaxed about the 25% weekly decline in the
Nasdaq when he spoke after Saturday's meeting of G7 finance ministers and
central bank governors. Privately, some of the foreign officials in
Washington considered the puncturing of the bubble a healthy development and
are keen for the market to fall still further.
Whether that will happen remains to be seen, but even if it doesn't, Wall
Street's tumble highlighted some of the vulnerabilities of the international
financial system and forced those charged with running it to explain exactly
what they are doing.
Gordon Brown said there should be no retreat into isolationism and
protectionism, and he's right about that. He also said that the world needs
international institutions like the Fund and the Bank, and he's right about
that too. Those who believe the Bretton Woods institutions are inherently
corrupt are not only wrong, but are giving succour to extremists on the right
who oppose all but minimalist government and despise internationalism.
Now, the Fund and the Bank need to re-think how to manage the global economy.
For years, they have operated rather like the mediaeval Vatican, insisting on
the one true faith. It should come as no surprise to find that they are now
faced with a group of unruly heretics who not only refuse to believe but are
prepared to resist.
Wounding attack
The heretics are not all eco-warriors and anarchists. Perhaps the most
wounding attack on the Fund last week came from Joseph Stiglitz, until
recently the chief economist of the Bank. The main thrust of Stiglitz's
article in the New Republic magazine was that the IMF had woefully mishandled
the financial crises of 1997-98, but he widened his argument with an attack
on the Fund for its secrecy, its arrogance and its wrong-headed policies,
describing it as full of "third-rank students from first rate universities".
Ouch.
"When the IMF decides to assist a country, it dispatches a 'mission' of
economists," he said. "These economists frequently lack experience in the
country; they are more likely to have knowledge of its five-star hotels than
the villages that dot its countryside." Ouch, ouch.
The second most compelling read of the week came from the Fund itself. In an
overview of the world economy's development in the 20th century, it said that
the past 100 years had been seen a stupendous increase in economic output,
with goods and services exceeding everything that had been churned out
between the dawn of time and 1900.
At the same time, however, inequality between the world's rich and poor
regions, measured by output per capita, has also increased dramatically. GDP
per capita in Africa is lower today than it was in the rich countries in
1900.
The Fund then divides the 20th century into four distinct periods - the Gold
Standard era, the two world wars and the great depression, the 1950-73 boom,
and the period of globalisation.
What the Fund believes is that "modern financial markets promote the mutually
beneficial exchange between net savers and users of capital for productive
purposes over increasing numbers of economic agents and ever larger
territories, thus contributing to the optimal use of capital and the
maximisation of world output."
Its figures, however, show that comfortably the most successful period of the
past 100 years was 1950-73, "characterised by exceptionally rapid output per
capita growth (2.9% per year on average) and the recovery of world trade
under the Bretton Woods system of fixed exchange rates and widespread capital
controls." The Fund says that pegged, but adjustable exchange rates and
control of capital movements gave governments room to address domestic
problems, while the IMF oversaw the international system, remarkably
successfully too.
"During the Bretton Woods period, the stability of the real economy and of
exchange rates reinforced each other. Wage pressures were moderate,
reflecting the impact on labour markets of memories of high unemployment in
the 1930s and rapid non-inflationary real wage growth, made possible by
unexpectedly high productivity growth. Finally, capital controls remained in
place, limiting the instability from disruptive international financial
flows."
Golden Age a fluke
It may have been that the Golden Age was a fluke, a period of catch-up, with
the world economy able to grow unusually rapidly due to the existence of a
global output gap caused by the devastation of war. Some might say that
growth would have been still faster, if trade and capital had been allowed to
cross borders more easily. The alternative way of looking at things, however,
is to say that the policies that worked so well once might work again.
Indeed, the experience of Malaysia is that the sky does not fall in if
countries re-impose capital controls. Malaysia's recovery has been as quick
as any in south-east Asia.
The Fund fully accepts that "a pegged exchange rate, independent national
monetary policy, and unrestricted international capital mobility cannot be
achieved simultaneously." So, if one of the three has to be sacrificed,
which? The argument in favour of liberalising capital flows is that more
efficient markets enable money to flow where it is needed, and to countries
without sufficient domestic savings to fund investment.
However, the tendency has been for removal of controls to be followed by a
surge of capital inflows, much of which has been for speculation rather than
long-term investment. The counterpart to a surplus on the capital account has
been a deficit on the current account, which has precipitated a crisis,
leading to capital flight and austerity programmes under the aegis of the
IMF.
This is the way the Fund describes what has happened. " Starting in the 80s,
controls on international capital movements were dismantled in many countries
in pursuit of efficiency gains from deregulation. The resulting large
increase in internationally-mobile capital flows combined with domestic
policy imbalances and volatile exchange rate expectations to generate
repeated international financial crises."
It seems a bit of a no-brainer. The Fund and the Bank agree that the priority
is to tackle poverty and global inequality. But governments find it harder to
pursue growth strategies and redistribution if they are in thrall to
capricious global markets. So the solution should be to maximise domestic
opportunity and provide the environment for countries to develop their own
domestic financial institutions and create a flourishing market economy.
One would have hoped some of the eggheads at the Fund would be proposing
this. But maybe Stiglitz is right and they're not so clever after all.
hkanteh
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Dear Katim,
It seems that most of the names of those involved with "free Gambia"are a=
ll
living in the USA,to avoid making it a USA thing we should start thinking=
of
people from other places who are prepared to take responsibility and sinc=
e the
G-L is practically bases in the US,this coming web mail should be manage =
from
somewhere else and by people with reliable contacts in the Gambia and
organizational experience.I believed there is an amount of technical reso=
urces
in places like Norway (having in mind brother Kabir and Omar Drammeh)to
coordinate this project .Secondly the issue of the name should be revisit=
ed.I
am having in mind "For a Democratic Gambia" or "sopeeku-Bi" .
For Freedom
Saiks
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Hi folks,
I'm writing to suggest an overall structure for the planned Free Gambia W=
eb
site. Given that there's still a lot more work that needs to be done in
regards the formation of an umbrella organization, I suggest we use "Free=
Gambia" as a title for the Web site, rather than a name of an organizatio=
n. =
In the event, hopefully, that the Web site becomes a semblance of the umb=
rella
organization we are all working toward, we can then formally adopt the na=
me of
the Web site as that of the organization when it's formed.
I've discussed the Free Gambia site at different times with a number of
people, and below is a draft of the basic structure I would suggest for i=
t. =
For your information, I was planning to send this e-mail only those that =
are,
as of now, involved with hashing out details of creating the site, but I
decided to forward it to Gambia-L instead because it will help if we get
feedback before we put pen to paper, fingers to keyboard. Please take a =
look
at the draft I'm sending below, and tell us how we can make the Web site
better.
DRAFT FREE GAMBIA SITE STRUCTURE
1. Homepage
a) "Free Gambia" logo and/or stylized text that will serve as the sit=
e's
official graphical identity.
b) Brief introduction to the site,
c) Links to other sections (shown below) of the Web site, and externa=
l
resources of interest to visitors
2. Purpose of the Free Gambia site
a) A response to the April 10 and 11 killings in the Gambia
b) A start toward the formation of an umbrella Gambian organization a=
imed
at fostering democracy and human rights in The Gambia
c) A clearing house for information about, and a directory of Gambian=
organizations around the world
3. Projects
a) Response to the April 2000 Killings in The Gambia (news,
demonstrations, meetings, etc.)
b) A Peaceful End to the Jammeh Government
4. Web Tools
a) Directory of Gambian Organizations
b) Global Gambian Community Calendar
c) Discussion Board
d) Chat
e) Mailing Lists
f) Surveys and Polls
5. Links to External Resources
a) Gambia-related
b) Africa-related
c) Human Rights and Democracy Resources
6. FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
a) Answers to FAQs
b) Ask a question
7. How to Help
a) Helping the Free Gambia Web site
b) Gambian Organizations needing help
c) Individuals needing help
9. Contact Us
a) Phone/fax
b) e-mail
c) Regular or "snail" mail
10. The Culprits
"Guilty as charged", the people that helped put this together
I mentioned that I have spoken to a few people about the site, and for yo=
ur
information, Dr. Amadou Janneh has registered the freegambia.org and
freegambia.com domains for us, George Sarr (of http://www.gambiansonline.=
com)
has offered to help with graphics, design and programming work, Latjor Nd=
ow
has also agreed to help with some Web work, and I'll be helping anyway I =
can. =
Other people who have offered to help include, off the top of my head, Ja=
bou
Joh, Karamba Touray, Saul Khan, and Bakary Sonko. We will be focusing on=
getting the site up, and later invite people to send in articles for incl=
usion
in the site. You can, by the way contact us at the following addresses:
Dr. Amadou Janneh ([log in to unmask])
Latjor Ndow ([log in to unmask])
George Sarr ([log in to unmask])
Katim S. Touray ([log in to unmask])
=
As always, keep the ideas coming. If anything, they go to show that we h=
ave a
pool of talent that just needs to be tapped and harnessed to make The Gam=
bia
better. Have a great weekend, and best wishes. =
=
Katim
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I have not been able to participate these past days because I was in =
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in motion with regard to the killing of the students will not evaporate. =
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Mr. Makaveli,
Welcome to my club! This fool has sent me insults. I thought he's Matarr
Njie, but he may be someone else. Just BLOCK his mail, or just delete as
soon as you see them. I don't sweat it at all, because if you do, they win!
Saul.
>Maybe you can help. There is this cyberNIA that is very annoying and he
>does nothing but spamming my e-mails. I've tried the DELETE button '
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GUARDIAN
Sunday, April 23 , 2000
Attack From Senegal
By Reuben Abati
WHEN 79-year-old Abdoulaye Wade became President of Senegal about a month
ago, his victory was hailed world-wide as yet another indication of the
continuing triumph of democracy in Africa. Abdou Diouf, Senegal's President
since 1981 graciously accepted defeat. Wade, himself, is the epitome of
perseverance and commitment. For 25 years, he had made every effort (1974,
1978, 1983, 1988, 1993) to become president of Senegal, and each time, he
failed. Always, he alleged electoral malpractice, and again another time.
Collectors of political tit-bits would easily find some parallels between
him and Abraham Lincoln, father of American democracy. Wade's victory is
occasioned largely by a certain fatigue among the Senegalese with the
Diouf's way of doing things. The people wanted change, and Wade has always
spoken of change arising from the possible death of midnight, and the rise
of a new dawn, which is to say that Senegal poses great challenges for a
post - Diouf Presidency: in terms of the achievement of change beyond the
soap-box.
However, Abdoulaye Wade, within one month, has shown that he does not intend
to focus only on the problems of Senegal. Like every Senegalese who
considers Senegal the melting pot of African civilisation and philosophy,
Wade has been waxing lyrical and poetic about what he calls "the United
States of Africa." Not a particularly new idea. Pan-Africanism is older than
Wade's political career. But like Senghor, Cheik Anta Dioup and Kwame
Nkrumah, Wade wants a stronger Africa, that is arranged along confederal
lines. Not in itself a bad response to the felt need to re-position,
re-energise and re-activate Africa if it must compete in an increasingly
competitive world. Africa contributes less than six per cent of global
trade. And yet, it has the highest prevalence rate of HIV/AIDS as well as
other diseases. It is in addition, the poorest continent in the world - the
only continent that still reminds the world of plague, disease and epidemic.
Every contribution to the re-orientation of the African reality is
necessarily welcome, and the strengthening of African states into economic
blocs may help remove the stigma, on the long run, that this is "a dark
continent," "a basket continent," "the last frontier."
What is controversial in Wade's recommendation is his Nigeria-phobia in two
different interviews granted Jeune Afrique and Newsweek. President Wade
speaks of a United States of West Africa, a United States of Central Africa
and a United States of East Africa with the caveat that Nigeria should stand
alone. His reasoning is that with its size and population, Nigeria will
create problems for other African states particularly in West Africa. In the
Newsweek interview, he suggested that 10 million Nigerians could take over
another West African country, and mess it up thoroughly. He says Nigeria is
"unbalanced and unjust:" It adds: "Nigeria itself is in the mind and its
government does not succeed in maintaining order in its territory, how much
more in community of states." In the same breadth, President Wade, perhaps
to illustrate his point at an individual level, singles out President
Olusegun Obasanjo whom he accuses of ingratitude. Wade is supposed to have
done a lot for President Obasanjo at the time of his imprisonment during the
Abacha years, but now that Obasanjo is president, he has maintained towards
Wade what the aggrieved Senegalese calls "a radio silence." The metaphor is
intelligent. A radio is not like telephone or the internet: it doesn't give
immediate feedback. Wade must have been seeking to connect with Obasanjo,
and our president apparently snubbed him. So, now that Wade is president in
Senegal, he is grabbing his pound of flesh. Obasanjo offends him, in return,
he attacks Nigeria.
Wade proves one point: you never know people until you give them power. For
25 years, Wade sought power. Now, he has it. May the Good Lord protect all
the likely victims of his power. If Obasanjo did not support his bid for the
Senegalese presidency, is that the reason why Nigeria is in the mud. Are we,
really, in the mud? At a lower depth than Senegal? If Wade wants a United
States of Africa, can he single-handedly impose his recommendation? His
attack on Nigeria is misplaced. It is undiplomatic. The truth is that a
United States of West Africa that excludes Nigeria would be a very strange
arrangement indeed. Wade talks as if he is still in the opposition. He
sounds as if he is still on the campaign rostrum. President Wade is
suffering a hang-over. He is now president: he needs to be reminded of that
fact. And the campaign ended a month ago. The president of Senegal should be
a statesman, a diplomat, not a loose canon in international diplomacy. Wade
and Obasanjo can sort out their personal problems whichever way suits them,
but President Wade owes this country an apology. His comments are racist,
unkind and tactless.
The only other point that needs to be made is that President Wade's comments
ought to be situated in the larger framework of relations between Nigerian
and other African countries. What we find is that the primary element of
Nigeria's foreign policy has been the maintenance of good relations with its
African neighbours, security, stability, and co-operation in Africa, and
assistance in any form to other African countries. Nigerians consider their
country, the giant of Africa. We like to see ourselves as the big brother.
One out of every five Africans is a Nigerian. But the truth is that other
Africans do not like us. A principal outcome of Nigeria's foreign
consideration is that our positive efforts at co-operation have only turned
other Africans against us. When President Wade speaks negatively about
Nigeria and Nigerians, he is not merely being unfair, rather, he expresses a
mind-set that is widespread in the continent.
In South Africa, Nigerians are generally considered criminals even if there
are more South Africans who are drunkards, rapists and crooks. There are
Nigerians in South Africa who are excelling in sports, business,
advertising, science and scholarship but these are not the ones who are used
to determine the South African conception of the Nigerian character. In
Ghana, Nigerians are held responsible for any crime at all. Even when there
is no Nigerian on the scene, a Nigerian name is invented to promote a
growing stereotype in the Ghanaian society. "God," Ghanaians usually insist,
"is not a Nigerian." When Ghanaians commit crimes, they simply supply a
Nigerian name. It is that bad. We had a football match with Senegal, the
other month, and the Eagles showed class and superiority. Angry Senegalese
fans in Dakar attacked the Nigerian Embassy, and Nigerian traders. The
situation in Gabon is not different. Between 1967 and 1970, many Nigerians,
mostly south-easterners ran away to Gabon, to escape the evil of the civil
war. For these Nigerians, and their children, Gabon is the the only real
home they have ever known. Today, the people of Gabon, like the Senegalese,
are complaining about Nigerians. In Equatorial Guinea, you only need to
mention that you are a Nigerian, and you watch: it is an attitude thing.
Cameroun is fighting us in Bakassi. Nigeria spent fortunes to stop the
carnage in Liberia, and to give Liberians an opportunity to enjoy peace. The
moment the war ended, and Charles Taylor became president, the first thing
Taylor did was to ask Nigeria to get off his back. The Murtala-Obasanjo
regime deployed resources in support of the liberation struggles in Central
and Southern Africa: what has Nigeria gained from all that? I once tried to
be friendly with an ECOWAS sister (that was long ago, mind you). The lady
was friendly until I disclosed my nationality. "You Nigerians are too fast,"
she declared. And she moved away. Other Africans blame us for being
talented. They detest our size and population. They blame us for their
poverty.
The lesson from all this is that we need to re-consider the content of
Nigeria's foreign policy as regards Africa. Foreign policy must be
constructed in terms of advantages. If Nigeria's constructive engagement
with Africa has brought only hate and resentment for the most part, then
something is wrong with the style, content and execution of Nigeria's
foreign policy in Africa. It is not enough, then to blame Wade. Nigeria's
foreign policy must begin at home: it must be anchored on a strong domestic
policy. Other African countries take us for granted because when we boast
about our greatness, they don't see it in the way we plan our lives. When
they had democracy, we didn't have. There is GSM in Republic of Benin, and
the telephones work in Ghana as well: The Nigerian communications system is
such a nightmare. There is constant power supply in Togo, here, we are in
darkness all the time. The Apapa Port in Lagos is so problematic that many
Nigerians prefer to use the Cotonou port in Benin Republic. Besides, the
kind of stories that come out of Nigeria are like stories from hell. Those
who seek respect from others must first respect themselves. If we Nigerians
do not love ourselves, how can we in good conscience, expect outsiders to
love us?
Arthur Nzeribe has been using the word, impeachment. Wade is also talking of
impeachment. As for Wade, he is lucky Nigeria is a different nation. If
Abacha or Babangida were still president, Wade's position as president of
Senegal would have been in jeopardy: a coup would have been organised
against him. But of course, these are happier times. That is why Wade, like
Nzeribe, can afford to leak from the mouth like a basket.
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<< Hi!
I have not been able to participate these past days because I was in the
hospital with my wife who gave birth to a baby girl. I came back home
yesterday to find tons of mail. I however hope that the things put in motion
with regard to the killing of the students will not evaporate. I have
received requests that I have not been able to deal with but I'll do so as
soon as time permits. In the meantime, I just want to let you all know that I
am still with you. Thanks.
Buharry.
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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:42:11 EDT
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Buharry,
Congratulations on the new baby, and may Allah bless and give the baby long
life and Imaan.
PS: sorry about the previous error.
Jabou
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<< Hi!
I have not been able to participate these past days because I was in the
hospital with my wife who gave birth to a baby girl. I came back home
yesterday to find tons of mail. I however hope that the things put in motion
with regard to the killing of the students will not evaporate. I have
received requests that I have not been able to deal with but I'll do so as
soon as time permits. In the meantime, I just want to let you all know that I
am still with you. Thanks.
Buharry.
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Thank you all for your advice. I now have a BLOCK on this Momodou Sillah.
I hope he will grow up soon and respect people's privacy. I now know
exactly who he is but you what, why bother with a loser!
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People shouldn´t base their political support on , the basses that one is
from the same tribe , religion or color , what one is talking at now is ,
the killing of our future leders, without whom the country gambia have no
importance to be a nation. It fine for any one to be a ruler , but a ruler
that will be a watch dog of democracy is the best of all . So therefore ,
with all our political beliefs let all be our brothers keepers , not there
eliminators. Lets close our ranks together for the benifits of our
generationyet unborn.
Terve
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>Mr. Jacques-Jassey-Conteh,
>
>For the sake of decency on Gambia-l and since you seem to have sober-up
>about calling me names, I'll hold my fire for now. Just be reminded that
>Mafy has the right to support whoever he wants, and always keep in mind
>that Mafy doesn't back down from confrontation especially from someone I
>can write a book on. Good luck on your Presidential ambitions. Ha! Ha! Ha
>!
>
>Mafy
>
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>Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 18:01:10 EDT
>
>Malafy:
>I encourage you to throw out any dirty laundry you know of me. At this
>moment, any presidential aspirant should concentrate on kicking the
>dictator
>out of The Gambia. We can have only one presidential candidate against
>your
>lunatic dictator. Unity should be our preamble. We must stay focus and
>fight this mad man. Your communist and military style harassment only
>convinces me that you have nothing to say. Personality contest is not my
>indignation.
>
>Members of the forum know at least who his saying the truth. We want to
>engage in substantive discussion about the lack of leadership in The
>Gambia.
>You must be out of reality to even suggest that the dictator will me in The
>Gambia forever. Dictator yahya jemus has offended more of his former
>supporters than any military lunatic in the history of politics. The
>people
>in Banjul cannot wait to vote him out of office. Remember what he has done
>to innocent Gambians, especially those young students who could have been
>the
>progress of our country. Dictator yahya jemus is the worst thing that ever
>happened to The Gambia.
>
>If you are willing to engage in a debate about The Gambia, I invite you to
>attend one of the forums on 4th of July. Gambians will be able to judge
>for
>themselves about the garbage that is coming out of your mouth. You have a
>record to defend. We must be willing to understand that when we disagree
>in
>principle, we must be steadfast to our cause and let Gambians be our
>audience. We in the opposition cannot be intimidated by your
>nearsightedness
>and denial of the basic truth. You cannot control the organizers of July
>4th, and we in the opposition do not care what you make. We only care
>about
>our country. Please stop publicizing yourself. Let the public do that.
>
>I promise you that your agent John P. Bojang will not be given a free ride
>in
>Atlanta. I will seek to be heard if he is given any opportunity to speak.
>The opposition will be doing a disservice for not condemning the slaughter
>of
>innocent Gambians in front of the dictator's uncle. We want to be heard.
>We
>want the truth to be revealed. We are willing to protect what is right for
>our country. We will not disappoint any Gambian. Please stay tune on July
>4th. Our struggle will never die.
>
>Dictator yahya jemus must go.
>
>Comrade,
>
>Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh
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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 12:41:55 PDT
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Mba, that was well saids, lets put our selves in to the positions of those
poor student whom lost their lives ,in such a babaric way.
Terve
Buba
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>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:37:43 PDT
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>Malafy,
>I do not intend to suppress you from the freedom of expressing yourself,
>but
>your recent postings on the list are showing everyone what kind of a person
>you are. A person who has no regard for human rights, no concern for the
>people of the Gambia, no mercy on human life,and a total disrespect for the
>gambian population for that matter. You are persisting on trying to defray
>people from the issue in hand by sending in distracting postings which are
>not the least associated with the status quo.
>List members excuse me if I seem to be a little out of hand, but Mafy is
>deliberately doing this. My advice is for everyone to boycott his postings
>and concentrate on the current development back home on the heinous
>activity
>that had just happened.
>The first time I saw his such postings I replied but I have been having
>problems in sending in messages. However, some people have condemned his
>acts , but he still insists.
>So please Mafy for the sake of patriotism and respect can you please join
>everyone and condemn these BARBARIC ACTIONS by you saviour Yaya Jammeh
>Mba
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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:55:29 EDT
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Sigga,
Thanks. We are all just trying to make sure we do our best for the folks back
home because if we do not, we would have failed them grossly.I have sent the
documents to Yankuba, as well as to the folks at Gamraleigh, and I am sure
these will be put up momentarily. I know that you can already go to the
gamraleigh site and sign the petition drafted by Buharry Gassama, so I hope
all of you can do that as soon as possible. Address is as follows:
<<www.gamraleigh.com>>
Regards,
Jabou
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Jabou,
Sister Dearest, I could not say it better myself. It
makes me proud to read your letter. It makes me proud
to know that Gambia has such fine female citizens as
your self. For in the wake of the betrayal by Mrs.
Isatou Njie Saidy,a betrayal she layed at the door of
all mothers, and the whole female species in general,
it is nice to witness a daughter of the Gambia display
such concern, love, and intellect. May God bless you,
my sister. And I hope that Mr. Njie does add this to
the petition. Maybe you can E-mail it to him at
[log in to unmask] and ask him to do so. Again
JAARAAMAH, JEREHJEFF, ABAHRAHKAH. >>
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I would like to wish one and all a Happy Easter. It is the "fifteenth
station" in the stages symbolizing the Passion, Death, and Resurrection of
Christ. As the wolof hymnal goes: "Yesu dekaleku na".
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Well Prince, shame on you. I am glad you apologized especially since my
maternal grandpa is a "Narr".
Jabou
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<< In my last posting about the match between Morocco and The Gambia I stated
that,
"nothing spectacular happened in the second half except a disallowed goal by
the Moroccans and the sending-off of Jatto Ceesay for spitting on a "narr" ".
As a Gambian, I take no pride in the last phrase "spitting on a narr",
neither do I condone such an action as something spectacular. I, personally,
found it utterly disgusting to say the least. I could have written the
sentence without the phrase, but I was only giving the reason why Jatto
Ceesay was sent-off.
However, I wish to extend my unreserved apology to all who think that I was
being jubilant for Jatto' action and I also ask for a re-analysis of my
statement to verify that I do not consider "spitting on a Narr" as
spectacular, but the sending-off of Jatto Ceesay.
I hope I will be forgiven for any distress I might have caused with that
phrase.
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Sister Nabiha,
This eloquently put tale, touches the deep
recesses of my heart. It puts a finger at the
throbbing pulse of all Gambians. With such pieces of
art, we can keep reminding Gambians, and the human
race at large of the tragedy of April 10. That way,
we can refrain from letting our guards down ever
again. We must stay involved, we must in our own
little ways, contribute to the democratic progress of
our country. Never again must we watch while
injustices are being practiced in the Gambia. For
they only lead to what we saw on April 10.
--- Nabiha Safriwe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> With a limping gait she walked, leaning heavily on a
> walking stick. Her once serene face now wreathed in
> pain, she was dressed all in black but for the red
> head-tie. Dragging her bare feet, she slowly moved
> towards me. Her eyes, when she finally looked at me
> were devoid of all warmth. With a raspy voice she
> spoke, slowly and carefully as if she has all the
> time
> in the world. “I have come to thank you, she said
> “For the support you’ve given me during my moment of
> pain, our pain.” Sluggishly I shook my head
> signifying that it was the least I could have done,
> and uncomfortably shifted my gaze from her searching
> ones.
> Suddenly she grabbed my hands and her next
> question
> shocked me. “Look at me, really look at me and tell
> me what you see?” Startled, I instinctively moved
> backwards stumbling on a rock, losing my balance and
> landing heavily on my behind. “Look at these hands,
> these callused hands of mine,” She went on,
> undaunted
> by my fall. “For years I have cultivated the soil
> for
> the purpose of raising my son, all I wanted was his
> education, but look at what happened to him!”
> Slowly
> she put her cane down and gently started clapping
> her
> hands to the rhythm of her words. “ I have a pain,
> a
> pain so intense it immobilizes me, at night I lay
> awake with thoughts and memories that wrench at my
> heart and promise never to go away. My eyes are dry
> with ‘unwept’ tears, vainly I searched the horizon
> for
> my lost son but to no avail.” For a moment she was
> silent as if rehearsing her next line, a single tear
> slowly rolled down her left eye and landed on my
> dusty
> feet. “Tell me, who is going to tend to me in my
> old
> age and bury me when I die, now that I have lost my
> son, my only child, ahhh the pain it suffocates me!”
> As if trying to get rid of the discomfort she beats
> on
> her chest and unflinchingly looked at me. “I
> represent all mothers who lost a child or a loved
> one
> to this nightmarish regime, this regime that brought
> nothing but pain and injustice to all. Alas, these
> poor arms of mine will never again embrace him.
> Forever he has been taken away from me, he was but
> fifteen years old, a baby, my baby. His young
> promising life cut short by a bullet, ahhh, ahhh!”
> Touching her red head-tie, she whispers in a tired
> voice “This is for my son and all sons and
> daughters
> of the Gambia, who has been lost in this tragedy, it
> represent tears, tears that I cannot shed, tears of
> blood that I must learn to live with to the end of
> my
> days.” With these final words she turned and
> pathetically walked back to her hut, disappearing in
> the shades of the mango trees.
> In the distance
> the melodious voice of the Muezzin can be heard
> calling the faithful to prayers.
> Dazedly I got up, dusted my pants and with a heavy
> heart I headed back to the village ‘Bantaba’,
> thinking
> out loud. “What are we going to do about this
> problem
> that plagues our beloved motherland, the Gambia?”
>
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Omar , I seconded you for questioning mr Bojang about those 3 yrs promises
he made when he was in scandinavia . I as a former Gambian chairman do had a
meeting with him in corncern of various matters,But in all his promises
nothing absolutely materialish.We even send him a letter which he him self
requested us to write and send it to him which will be convy directly by him
to A JJ. Nothing for the past 3 yrs. What about a deplomat who don´t keep
his promises? Readers I left you the reminding to answer
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>George,
>
>Mr Bojang was here in Oslo about 3 years ago to present his credentials to
>the king of Norway, as Gambian High Commissioner to Britain. The Gambian
>community here had a meeting with him, and I asked him what his government
>had thought of doing regarding the plight of many Gambians languishing in
>Turkish jails. His response was that he was not aware of this, but that his
>government was going to look into it. When the man comes to Atlanta, can
>someone "remind" him? It`s been almost three years since, and I bet the
>brothers are gradually rotting in Turkey- The sickman of Europe. There were
>other issues too that had been aired by others like that of dual
>nationality, and Mr Bojang promised them that he would do his utmost, but
>that was the last time they ever heard from him. Again can someone "remind"
>him?
>
>Regards,
>Omar.
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>Emne: Re: To Comrade Muhammad-RE:Please Withdraw John P. Bojang's
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>
> >George,
> >Let me tell you that Mr. John Bojang would not give you any answers
>neither
> >will Tombong. These people are not even allowed to talk to any one
>without
> >getting orders from Jammeh. Even the ministers back home are not. They
>are
> >all cautioned to talk only with is approval.
> >Mr. Bojang am sure was invited because he is the Ambassador representing
>the
> >Killers government. Would he be invited if he was not? I have never been
>to
> >the July 4th. and was counting on this one to be my possible first, but
>why
> >invite any political party representative, more over the Jammeh people?
> >Let me briefly tell you that the only reason why Mr. Bojang is chosen as
>an
> >Ambassador is because he is an uncle to Jammeh. Now tell me, what should
>you
> >expect?
> >
> >Ousman Bojang.
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Jabou,
This reminder is wonderful. My question is has there been any contribution
yet? It is about two weeks since the atrocities happened and almost all of
us were talking about the action plan but since then there has not been any
updates it. Is that because no one responded as pledged?
Mori Kebba Jammeh
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> This is a reminder to those who have not sent in donations towards the
> Massacre Action Plan which includes the retention of lawyers to assist the
> victims of the shootings in Gambia etc. Please take the time ot send your
> contributions to Karamba Touray or Soffie Ceesay. A lot of outrage was
> expressed on the L about this atrocity, and rightly so. However, we must
make
> every effort to make sure that our reaction is not just limited to venting
> words of outrage. This is one way we can help ensure that we make an
effort
> towards the possibility that justice is done, and therefore ultimately
> contribute towards preventing these sorts of things from occurring in our
> country.We only way we can accomplish this is if all of us do our share.
> We also need to make sure that we visit the petition site and sign these
> petitions once they are up again. Let us remember that the reason that
those
> who perpetrate these kids os atrocities against us are able to do so
because
> they expect the apathetic response that has been our trademark . Let us
put
> an end to that.
>
> Jabou Joh
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Network Africa - Sweden (NAS)
The Association for the Study of Classical African Civilizations
Atlanta Declaration
We, African intellectuals and research scholars, men and women coming from
Africa, Europe, the Caribbean region and North, Central and South America,
have assembled in Atlanta, Georgia at the dawn of the third millennium and
the twenty-first century, discussing and deciding the following:
Considering that no world people, from antiquity to the present, have lived
or can live by the memory and the consciousness of another people;
Considering that, in the history of humanity, each people has had its own
history and points of cultural reference;
Considering that ancient Nile Valley Civilization has been the quest of
historians, anthropologists and thinkers of African origin, particularly in
the United States of America, since the eighteenth century, beginning with
figures such as Richard Allen, Prince Hall and Absalom Jones;
Considering that the works of Cheikh Anta Diop have provided necessary
scientific strategies for the reconstruction of the long chain of history
of African people from antiquity to the present and for the rehabilitation
and restoration of African historical consciousness by adopting Kemet
(Egypt) as the foundation of modern African humanity;
Considering that the international colloquium held in Cairo, Egypt in
January, 1974, under UNESCO sponsorship, unanimously confirmed the fact
that Pharaonic Kemet (Egypt) was African, on the basis of ethnic
composition, its culture, its language, its written script, and its ways of
thinking;
Considering that Maat remains the key to the social, cultural, political,
scientific, philosophical and spiritual development of Ancient Kemet
(Egypt), and that Maat is a transcendent principle which advocates justice,
equality, and truth among men and women in society;
Considering that contemporary Western civilization perpetuates itself
through the destruction of nature and the ecology, and that it does not
uphold fundamental ethics or moral values;
Considering that the African Renaissance, linked to Pan-Africanism, must be
based on the complete historical and cultural past of African people,
including ancient Kemet (Egypt), and that it must lead to the unity and
solidarity of all African peoples in the world as a condition of building
their common future;
Considering that the challenges of the contemporary world must not
perpetuate global European hegemony, racism, white supremacy, injustice and
inequality, and that peace in the world is the work of all people;
Be It Resolved
1.That ancient Kemet (Egypt) belongs to the cultural and historical
heritage of all African people in the world.
2.That ancient Kemet (Egypt) is the historical foundation of African
humanity and the cultural base of the African Renaissance.
3.That all African people in the world must claim and own ancient Kemet
(Egypt) without desiring, requesting or expecting prior authorization from
others, whoever they might be.
4.That teaching African Studies everywhere in the world must necessarily
include Egypto-Nubian-Ethiopian civilizations as its foundation.
5.That new methodologies and new paradigms must be created to discover and
understand African civilization in an African framework of reflection and
comprehension.
6.That many institutes, centers and academies must be created with the
material, financial, human and intellectual contributions of Africans in
order to help promote African independence.
Adopted and accepted by the delegation at the African World History Project
Symposium
Atlanta, Georgia
March 25, 2000
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Mr Ebou colly
I really find your ideas informative and educative. I just want to mention
that it has been highly rumoured that you are not really ebou colly. If so
WHY should you hide your identity?
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> YAYA MUST
>RESIGN (PART-TWO)
>
>
>The news that Yaya went to the hospital to see the
>children he had ordered for their killing but were
>fortunate to be saved by god was the climax of his
>mockery to the bereaved families and the entire
>Gambian people. Don’t be surprised therefore if by
>next week he goes on the air with recommendations to
>have the families compensated financially by
>government for the death of the children. The Kaninlai
>butcher is now on his usual appeasing strategy. After
>killing so many Gambians and then successfully
>wriggling out of them in the past, he now believes he
>has perfected that demonic talent to the point where
>he could get away with the worst kind scenario.
>Killing the school children would be something he
>would celebrate in his private moments and might
>perhaps boast happily about sending the kids six-foot
>deep. He must resign for this crime.
>
>There are certain things that I am sure he would now
>be working on to survive his crime in the eyes of the
>general public. He would start distancing himself from
>Isatou Njie Saidy and her team that tried desperately
>to defend the shooting. It is even possible that he
>may fire some of them if the public pressure is
>sustained in the face of his slick efforts. There is
>no doubt in my mind also that he would be banking
>heavily on his newly appointed minister of justice Mr.
>Pap Choi Yassin Secka to cover up for him where every
>thing should fail. So Mr. Secka must brace up for the
>two critical options on his drawing board. If he does
>not make things good for Yaya and clears his name
>altogether, he should be prepared to get the sack very
>soon like all his predecessors suffered. For example,
>if Mr. Secka for a moment tries to confirm the
>undeniable fact that there were no rubber-bullet guns
>used but AK47’s with live rounds in the operation, he
>would be seen as deviating from the expectations of
>Yaya and would no doubt lose his new job. Certainly,
>the establishment of that truth should be the opening
>passage to almost all the facts, because those who
>lied about that would be forced to confess. And their
>confession would clearly hang Yaya by the balls. But
>on a more limited perception, Mr. Secka may choose to
>join the bandwagon of the intellectual prostitutes for
>the purpose of keeping his job and not considering the
>permanent destruction of his historical image. The
>usual argument that the veteran lawyer is well
>cultured and schooled and would not therefore
>compromise his integrity shall never sway me,
>especially after experiencing Fafa Mbye’s era. Too
>many outstanding intellectuals have gone down in
>history with monsters like Adolf Hitler, a reality
>that still puzzles the minds of analytical historians.
>Samuel Doe went down with a lot of them as well, not
>forgetting Bokassa and Musa Trawalleh the child
>killers. So Yaya the latest child killer would
>certainly sink with some of them as well.
>
>Apart from depending on his new Minister of Justice to
>help him out, Yaya would also retreat to his oracles
>(jalangs), at kaninlai. He would therefore sacrifice a
>lot of cattle and other animals for charity,
>distributing thousands of cola-nuts to praying grounds
>and soaking himself in nasty liquid charms “saafara”,
>with the strong conviction that it would work for him
>to escape his criminal actions.
>
>
>But I want to remind him how those foolish things
>don’t work for him most of the time. After the
>Farafenni attack for example on the 8th of November
>1996, he instructed his former guard commander
>Lieutenant Landing Sanneh to carry out one of the most
>primitive rituals in the barracks. State guard
>personnel were sent to bury several bags of ordinary
>salt everywhere in the camp. This could be confirmed
>with those soldiers serving at 2Infantry Battalion,
>Farafenni barracks. When we asked Yaya why, he said he
>was advised by his juju-man to do so which would be
>the final guarantee that no army camp would ever be
>attacked by surprise again. Eight months after, on the
>21st of July 1997, Kartong was attacked in the most
>surprising manner ever imagined. When we met him
>after, the idiot had totally forgotten about the
>previous year’s rituals and had to tell us that he had
>dreamt about the Kartong attack weeks ago but that he
>had performed stronger rituals that made it a failure.
>
>
>In that same year in 1997, he almost died from another
>ritual he was trying to perform with wild bees at
>Kaninlai village. Captain L. T. Tamba was there and
>was a live witness to that embarrassing incident. Yaya
>trying to mystify himself before us told everybody
>including his guards not to follow him under one big
>tree where he said he was going to discuss certain
>things with his ancestral bees. He even warned us that
>if we followed him under the tree, the bees could
>sting us and that would mean death to any one stung.
>So we stayed away from a reasonable distance watching.
>However, shortly after he stated acting as if he was
>talking to the bees buzzing around their hives on the
>branches, the insects suddenly attacked and almost
>killed him while he ran all over the dusty bushes. If
>it had not been for the guards, his ancestral bees
>would have probably sting him to death. Yet the moron
>had to later send an old haggard-looking woman from
>the village to tell us that the bees attacked Yaya
>because they were upset with him for not greeting them
>when he first arrived in the village that morning.
>This is not a joke Gambians; this is the real
>mentality of the president leading our country. If he
>should therefore dream that killing school children
>was the right thing to do as may be prescribed by his
>“jalangs” he would do it and later retreat to them to
>save his neck.
>
>Turning to the soldiers now, it is important for you
>to know how badly Yaya has destroyed your image all
>over the world for the very crimes he has been
>committing particularly in this last one. After using
>you in this unforgivable crime, he is now pretending
>not to be part of what happened on April 10. So all of
>you have a great responsibility to worry about. You
>must clear this negative image by doing what you are
>suppose to do for the Gambian people. If Yaya would
>not resign, you must remove him out of power and call
>for the civilians to organize elections within three
>months and give them the political power that belongs
>to them. That would be the only way you can restore
>your credibility once more. Yaya being around you will
>destroy all the prestige and honor you used to enjoy
>as professional soldiers. YAYA MUST RESIGN! YAYA MUST
>RESIGN!
>
>
>
>Ebou Colly
>
>
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Saiks:
I believe the "freegambia.org" project could be handled by individuals in different parts of the globe. In fact, Katim asked for volunteers on the "L", not just those based in the US. It's still not too late for non-US based individuals to participate in the work.
I also believe it is too early to worry about the name of the organization(s) we all hope would emerge from the current efforts. But "sopekubi" (?) is merely a variation of Senegal's "sopi"; perhaps somethig else ought to be considered in the future. On the other hand, we should not waste time devising the principles upon which the organization(s) is to be based.
Just my view! Enjoy the rest of the weekend.
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HI SIGA,
HOW ARE YOU; LONG TIME .
LAMIN DARBO
> > With a limping gait she walked, leaning heavily on a
> > walking stick. Her once serene face now wreathed in
> > pain, she was dressed all in black but for the red
> > head-tie. Dragging her bare feet, she slowly moved
> > towards me. Her eyes, when she finally looked at me
> > were devoid of all warmth. With a raspy voice she
> > spoke, slowly and carefully as if she has all the
> > time
> > in the world. “I have come to thank you, she said
> > “For the support you’ve given me during my moment of
> > pain, our pain.” Sluggishly I shook my head
> > signifying that it was the least I could have done,
> > and uncomfortably shifted my gaze from her searching
> > ones.
> > Suddenly she grabbed my hands and her next
> > question
> > shocked me. “Look at me, really look at me and tell
> > me what you see?” Startled, I instinctively moved
> > backwards stumbling on a rock, losing my balance and
> > landing heavily on my behind. “Look at these hands,
> > these callused hands of mine,” She went on,
> > undaunted
> > by my fall. “For years I have cultivated the soil
> > for
> > the purpose of raising my son, all I wanted was his
> > education, but look at what happened to him!”
> > Slowly
> > she put her cane down and gently started clapping
> > her
> > hands to the rhythm of her words. “ I have a pain,
> > a
> > pain so intense it immobilizes me, at night I lay
> > awake with thoughts and memories that wrench at my
> > heart and promise never to go away. My eyes are dry
> > with ‘unwept’ tears, vainly I searched the horizon
> > for
> > my lost son but to no avail.” For a moment she was
> > silent as if rehearsing her next line, a single tear
> > slowly rolled down her left eye and landed on my
> > dusty
> > feet. “Tell me, who is going to tend to me in my
> > old
> > age and bury me when I die, now that I have lost my
> > son, my only child, ahhh the pain it suffocates me!”
> > As if trying to get rid of the discomfort she beats
> > on
> > her chest and unflinchingly looked at me. “I
> > represent all mothers who lost a child or a loved
> > one
> > to this nightmarish regime, this regime that brought
> > nothing but pain and injustice to all. Alas, these
> > poor arms of mine will never again embrace him.
> > Forever he has been taken away from me, he was but
> > fifteen years old, a baby, my baby. His young
> > promising life cut short by a bullet, ahhh, ahhh!”
> > Touching her red head-tie, she whispers in a tired
> > voice “This is for my son and all sons and
> > daughters
> > of the Gambia, who has been lost in this tragedy, it
> > represent tears, tears that I cannot shed, tears of
> > blood that I must learn to live with to the end of
> > my
> > days.” With these final words she turned and
> > pathetically walked back to her hut, disappearing in
> > the shades of the mango trees.
> > In the distance
> > the melodious voice of the Muezzin can be heard
> > calling the faithful to prayers.
> > Dazedly I got up, dusted my pants and with a heavy
> > heart I headed back to the village ‘Bantaba’,
> > thinking
> > out loud. “What are we going to do about this
> > problem
> > that plagues our beloved motherland, the Gambia?”
> >
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List Managers,
Can you re-subscribe OB Silla to the Gambia-L. He
tried to do it the conventional way but to no avail.
His e-mail address is [log in to unmask]
Sorry other Members, that I have to adopt this way.
For: Latjor Ndow, Soffie Ceesay, Malanding Jaiteh,
Momodou Camara, Karamba Touray.List Managers,
Can you re-subscribe OB Silla to the Gambia-L. He
tried to do it the conventional way but to no avail.
His e-mail address is [log in to unmask]
Sorry other Members, that I have to adopt this way.
Good night.
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--- peter sanyang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Self grandiloquent and an untoward activities of
> this president might not
> only see him jumping from the frying pan into the
> fire but,might as well
> cause our beloved nation her sovereignty. Meddling
> in the private affairs of
> our more harden warring neighbours will only invoke
> more chios and
> imprecations for the gambia and, that is something
> we can hardly interjoin.
>
> It beats the living imagination in me, how any
> concerned head of state will
> not rush back home( especially, when one accorded
> oneself a waiting private,
> chartered, and ill-afforded AEROPLANE..) when
> propagated atrocities occurred
> in ur country whilst away by troglodytes
> administrators/servants of ur
> regime. Does this man really care to what happened
> or is it merely the limit
> of his maxims on reality? Is he in hiding? Or is it
> the fear of reprimand
> from senegal and Guinea Bissau more pertinent than
> what is functionaries
> wrought on our innocent children.
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As of Sunday April 23 we have received contributions from 57 individuals and
The Gambia Association of Chicago a sum total of $3063 (Three thousand and
sixty-three dollars). For an exact breakdown of the donations, please go to
www.gambian.com and click the Massacre Action Plan icon. We are very grateful
for those that promptly sent in their contributions but clearly the
overwhelming majority of Gambians in the US have not participated. I have
made out of state calls and visited folks within the metro DC area but we
must do more to get people involved. I think list members would agree we
cannot fall short of our objectives especially the important short term goal
of helping the families of the bereaved and securing the release of students
and parents languishing in jail. We had a meeting with the coordinator
yesterday and it was decided that work on securing the release of detainees
would begin tomorrow (Monday) the 24th Our efforts would be geared towards
complimenting the valiant efforts of a group of lawyers who have already done
preparatory work to secure their release. They are working probono but with
our help in defraying the costs of further investigations and possible
defense of those students that may be charged we would be able to work
towards the ultimate objective of standing up for the children.By the end of
the week I would post a suggested amount to be given to the families of each
of the fourteen victims for list members to approve upon which they would be
disbursed. A condolence letter on our behalf was published and announced in
Gambia. I hope we would soon be able to coordinate with the European effort
to enable us to gauge our overall financial situation. Together we will do
something about these brutal murders
Thanks
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Thank you Brother
May the blessings of Easter be with you.
You are a very good and true gambian in all aspects. I respect you for
your courage, Thank you and appreciate it also.
We all are human and can make simple mistakes that can be taken out of
context.
Some of us will settle for nan Buru.
Astrid and Dagma will do it on your behalf
thanks again and God bless you
Habib Diab Ghanim, Sr
Prince Obrien-Coker wrote:
> In my last posting about the match between Morocco and The Gambia I
> stated that,"nothing spectacular happened in the second half except a
> disallowed goal by the Moroccans and the sending-off of Jatto Ceesay
> for spitting on a "narr" ".As a Gambian, I take no pride in the last
> phrase "spitting on a narr", neither do I condone such an action as
> something spectacular. I, personally, found it utterly disgusting to
> say the least. I could have written the sentence without the phrase,
> but I was only giving the reason why Jatto Ceesay was
> sent-off.However, I wish to extend my unreserved apology to all who
> think that I was being jubilant for Jatto' action and I also ask for a
> re-analysis of my statement to verify that I do not consider "spitting
> on a Narr" as spectacular, but the sending-off of Jatto Ceesay.I hope
> I will be forgiven for any distress I might have caused with that
> phrase. Prince
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Thank you Brother
<br>May the blessings of Easter be with you.
<p>You are a very good and true gambian in all aspects. I respect you for
your courage, Thank you and appreciate it also.
<br>We all are human and can make simple mistakes that can be taken out
of context.
<p>Some of us will settle for nan Buru.
<br>Astrid and Dagma will do it on your behalf
<br>thanks again and God bless you
<br>Habib Diab Ghanim, Sr
<p>Prince Obrien-Coker wrote:
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<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>In
my last posting about the match between Morocco and The Gambia I stated
that,</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>"nothing spectacular
happened in the second half except a disallowed goal by the Moroccans and
the sending-off of Jatto Ceesay for spitting on a "narr" ".</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>As
a Gambian, I take no pride in the last phrase "spitting on a narr", neither
do I condone such an action as something spectacular. I, personally, found
it utterly disgusting to say the least. I could have written the sentence
without the phrase, but I was only giving <font color="#0000FF">the reason
why Jatto Ceesay was sent-off</font>.</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>However,
I wish to extend my unreserved apology to all who think that I was being
jubilant for Jatto' action and I also ask for a re-analysis of my statement
to verify that I do not consider "spitting on a Narr" as spectacular, but
the sending-off of Jatto Ceesay.</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I
hope I will be forgiven for any distress I might have caused with that
phrase.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Prince</font></font></blockquote>
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Congratulations on the new addition to your family.
girls bring good luck
habib
Habib
MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA wrote:
> Hi! I have not been able to participate these past days because I
> was in the hospital with my wife who gave birth to a baby girl. I came
> back home yesterday to find tons of mail. I however hope that the
> things put in motion with regard to the killing of the students will
> not evaporate. I have received requests that I have not been able to
> deal with but I'll do so as soon as time permits. In the meantime, I
> just want to let you all know that I am still with you.
> Thanks.
> Buharry.
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Congratulations on the new addition to your family.
<br>girls bring good luck
<br>habib
<p>Habib
<p>MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA wrote:
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<font size=-1>Hi!</font><font size=-1>
I have not been able to participate these past days because I was in the
hospital with my wife who gave birth to a baby girl. I came back home yesterday
to find tons of mail. I however hope that the things put in motion with
regard to the killing of the students will not evaporate. I have received
requests that I have not been able to deal with but I'll do so as soon
as time permits. In the meantime, I just want to let you all know that
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Brother Karamba and LatJor ( + fund raising committee members)
Thanks for your efforts.
I am pleased to see that Latjor and you have a list for accountability.
I urge others who have not yet sent money to do so .
Remember this money is not intended for any other use except to help the victims
and families involved.
May I suggest for the rest of the community to donate to this cause but specify
what they would want their donations be used for.
this way there will be more money
Classifications can be
Examples on
LEGAL EXPENSE
FUNERAL EXPENSE
FOOD & SHELTER
SCHOOL FEES
NON POLITICAL
FAMILY SUPPORT
MEDICAL EXPENSE
ADMINISTRATIVE
GENERAL USE
Some may want to donate to help in say medical or funeral expenses and still be
within the Government, be in the opposition, or just plain neutral help on a
humanitarian basis.
I am sure this approach would bring in more cash from even non Gambians who are
sympathetic to the young Gambians who lost their lives recently.
Again , this is just a suggestion that has proven successful in our fund raising
activities at the Mosque. Some give to Zakat, some to general/utilities expenses
,some for funeral expenses and some even towards a home to be built for the Imam
by doing it this way everyone felt they contributed to the cause they want to
donate to most.
I hope that no one would feel offended by this posting as this method includes
all concerned human beings who will help for specific causes regardless of
political affiliations, religion or creed.
Habib Diab Ghanim, SR.
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> As of Sunday April 23 we have received contributions from 57 individuals and
> The Gambia Association of Chicago a sum total of $3063 (Three thousand and
> sixty-three dollars). For an exact breakdown of the donations, please go to
> www.gambian.com and click the Massacre Action Plan icon. We are very grateful
> for those that promptly sent in their contributions but clearly the
> overwhelming majority of Gambians in the US have not participated. I have
> made out of state calls and visited folks within the metro DC area but we
> must do more to get people involved. I think list members would agree we
> cannot fall short of our objectives especially the important short term goal
> of helping the families of the bereaved and securing the release of students
> and parents languishing in jail. We had a meeting with the coordinator
> yesterday and it was decided that work on securing the release of detainees
> would begin tomorrow (Monday) the 24th Our efforts would be geared towards
> complimenting the valiant efforts of a group of lawyers who have already done
> preparatory work to secure their release. They are working probono but with
> our help in defraying the costs of further investigations and possible
> defense of those students that may be charged we would be able to work
> towards the ultimate objective of standing up for the children.By the end of
> the week I would post a suggested amount to be given to the families of each
> of the fourteen victims for list members to approve upon which they would be
> disbursed. A condolence letter on our behalf was published and announced in
> Gambia. I hope we would soon be able to coordinate with the European effort
> to enable us to gauge our overall financial situation. Together we will do
> something about these brutal murders
>
> Thanks
> Karamba
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The delaying tactics in the process of the proposed inquest could make
me believe
that, an expert,a professional liar is preparing "the testilying"which
should be submitted in court and to mislead people.I believe,the justice
ministry should
stop all suspects with their heads of departments from work,to avoid the
evidence
being hampered.They should allow the post mortem reports to be
re-examined by
experts,if the bereaved families raise doubts about the reports.Gambians
are very
intelligent and i don`t think it is easy to fool them.We are monitoring
the process of
our justice system on the cases of these atrocities committed whether
they will follow the direction where the preponderance of the evidence
directs them.
The perpetrators of this awful crime should not get away with it.I know
that,
in many cases against a government,"The blue wall of silence"(is a code
that
forbids a security officer testifying against another and requires
to"back up"
a fellow officer,even if they know he/she is lying)is applied but
please,we urge our brothers in uniform to come with the truth infront of
the Gambian nation.We also
urge you,to sympathize with your defenceless relatives and to remember
that,we
will forever stay together.History will always reveal all that is
happening now,asTrofim Lysenko did in the interest of Stalinism,or as
certain racial
theorists did in the interests of Hitlerism.
We will be watching carefully as development goes on about the
investigation of
our massacred children.
Elhajj Mustapha Sheikh Omar Fye
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HI GUYS !
I have a friend who has been suffering from some sort of RHEUMATOID
ARTHTRITIS which seems to be slowly halting her legs from walking. She has
been on all kinds of medication and management within the scope of gambian
medical possibiilities.
Anyone with any information or more appropriately contacts for her
treatment abroad ?
She has visited Dakar too !
jaama rek
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Bismillah Walhamdulillah Was Salaatu Was Salaam 'ala Rasulillah
As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu
Revelation - 18th Muharram 1421 (24 April 2000)
Narrated by Aisha (Radhiallaho anha):
The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Messenger
(sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) was in the form of good dreams
which came true like bright daylight, and then the love of
seclusion was bestowed upon him. He (sallallaahu 'alaihi
wasallam) used to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where
he (sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) used to worship (Allah
alone) continuously for many days before his desire to see his
family. He used to take with him the journey food for the stay
and then come back to (his wife) Khadija (Radhiallaho anha) to
take his food likewise again till suddenly the Truth descended
upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to
him (sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) and asked him (sallallaahu
'alaihi wasallam) to read. The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alaihi
wasallam) replied, "I do not know how to read."
The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) added, "The angel
caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not
bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to
read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he
caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not
bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to
read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what
shall I read)?' Thereupon he caught me for the third time and
pressed me, and then released me and said, 'Read in the name
of your Lord, who has created (all that exists) has created
man from a clot. Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous."
(Surah Al-Alaq : Ver. 1-3). Then Allah's Messenger
(sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) returned with the Inspiration
and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to his wife
Khadija bint Khuwailid and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They
covered him till his fear was over and after that he told her
everything that had happened and said, "I fear that something
may happen to me." Khadija replied, "Never! By Allah, Allah
will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your
kith and kin, help the poor and the destitute, serve your
guests generously and assist the deserving calamity-afflicted
ones."
Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqa bin Naufal
bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the Pre-Islamic Period
became a Christian and used to write the writing with Hebrew
letters. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as
Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his
eyesight. Khadija said to Waraqa, "Listen to the story of your
nephew, O my cousin!" Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have
you seen?" Allah's Messenger (sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam)
described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, "This is the same
one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel) whom Allah had sent
to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time
when your people would turn you out." Allah's Messenger
(sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) asked, "Will they drive me
out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said, "Anyone
(man) who came with something similar to what you have brought
was treated with hostility; and if I should remain alive till
the day when you will be turned out then I would support you
strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine
Inspiration was also paused for a while.
Jabir bin 'Abdullah Al-Ansari narrated while talking about the
period of pause in revelation reporting the speech of the
Prophet "While I was walking, all of a sudden I heard a voice
from the sky. I looked up and saw the same angel who had
visited me at the cave of Hira sitting on a chair between the
sky and the earth. I got afraid of him and came back home and
said, 'Wrap me (in blankets).' And then Allah revealed the
following Holy Verses (of Quran):
'O you (i.e. Muhammad)! wrapped up in garments! Arise and warn
(the people against Allah's Punishment),...' up to 'and desert
the idols.' (Surah Muddaththir : Ver. 1-5). After this the
revelation started coming strongly, frequently and regularly."
Bukhari Vol. 1 : No. 3
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Gambia Lers,
Please remember in all your contacts with the American Government to remind
them that they the US government through their then Ambassador to the Gambia
helped us put Jammeh in power. WE have proof of this ad can give it to you
when required. The Coup was cooked in the kitchen of the US Embassy
residence and we ca give you all the proof you want, meeting dates etc.
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>G-L,
>
>Here is something sent to me to forward for your information. I know that
>the
>U.S government representative offices are equipped to handle large influxes
>of emails as this is often used by citizens to express their opinions to
>their representatives and the U.S government in regards to variouws
>issues.Therefore, they can probably handle large amounts of email, although
>we may also opt to send them just the signed petitions.Please see below:
>
><< << As promised here is the contact person responsible for West African
>Political Affairs for the Gambia
> His name is : Donald Boyd
> email address:[log in to unmask]
> You can please pass this on to Gambia -L and please warn them about
>their
>choice of language... >>
> >>
>
>Jabou
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Dear Dr. Saine,
YYYou are one of our heroes, it is therefore very important that your
chapter isaccurqate, by including the us government involvement in the
military coup. We who were directly involved atleast know one fact fact and
that is the direct involvement of the then us ambassador. We can give you
irrefutable facts, dates, places and subject of meetings with the americAN.
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>Subject: Re: Request help in drafting a position paper calling for a
> peaceful endto the Jammeh Government
>Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:58:21 -0400
>
>Dear Katim:
>
>This is a worthwhile project and one worth taking up with the senator.
>The outline of your proposal is very comprehensive as well.
>Coincidentally, I just completed a 30-page manuscript on The Gambia to
>be included as a book chapter in a forthcoming book on LIBERALIZATION
>AND DEMOCRACY IN AFRICA, edited by John Mbaku.
>
>The chapter "The Military and Democratization in The Gambia" does just
>what you are looking for. It traces and analyzes events from Jawara to
>the April 10 & 11 Massacres. Send me a private note and I will send it
>by attachment. If I can be of any further assistance on this project,
>do not hesitate to contact me.
>
>Abdoulaye
>
>No justice, no peace!
>
>"Katim S. Touray" wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I am writing to seek help in preparing a position paper that will be
>used to
> > work toward a peaceful end of the Jammeh government. You might recall
>that
> > earlier this week, I informed the list that I was fortunate to meet
> > Wisconsin's Senator Russell Feingold, a member of the Senate Foreign
> > Relations Committee, and also the Ranking Member of that Committee's
>Africa
> > Sub-Committee.
> >
> > To recap, I briefed Senator Feingold about the tragic events of April 10
>and
> > 11 in The Gambia, the worldwide outrage the events evoked in the Gambian
>and
> > peace-loving community, and mentioned to him that we would be needing
>help
> > from him and other people that are working globally on issues of human
> > rights and democracy. He referred me to his Aide, whom I also gave more
> > detail about the various demonstrations and petitions that Gambians the
> > world over were working on, and longer-term objectives to ensure that
>such
> > mayhem does not happen in The Gambia again.
> >
> > I told Senator Feingold's Aide that we are working on building a
>coalition
> > of groups, and ultimately an umbrella organization to spear-head efforts
>at
> > redressing the recent killings in The Gambia, but more importantly, to
>work
> > toward a Gambia that's free, democratic, and open. I told him that we
>will
> > be preparing a paper that details the facts of the case against
>President
> > Jammeh, and would include proposals for a peaceful end of the Jammeh
> > government, as well as a mechanism for achieving that end.
> >
> > Well, I'm glad to report that Senator Feingold's office has sustained
>their
> > interest in the case. It was just this morning (Friday, April 21) that
>I
> > received a call from one of the Senator's Aides in Washington, DC, to
> > follow-up on my meeting with the Senator. I had an extensive chat with
>her,
> > and informed her that we were still working on getting an umbrella
> > organization together, and also preparing a position paper to send them.
> In
> > the mean time, I referred her to the Gambia-L archives for her to review
>the
> > reactions that recent killings have been generating.
> >
> > I also gave the Senator's Aide an overview of some of the longer-term
> > solutions that I have been suggesting. In particular, I informed her
>that
> > ultimately, President Jammeh has to agree to a peaceful handover of
>power to
> > a transitional national unity government, and an agreement to tell us
>the
> > truth about the fates of the many people who lost their lives in
> > circumstances that are as yet, not fully explained; at least
>satisfactorily.
> > In exchange, President Jammeh and his officials will be offered amnesty
>from
> > prosecution, as well as a lifetime pensions. Furthermore, the victims
> > families would be compensated by the Gambia government, with a view
>toward
> > alleviating any hardship they might suffer because of the untimely
>deaths of
> > their loved ones.
> >
> > May I emphasize that the above ideas are not set in stone. Indeed, they
>are
> > just that, ideas to be debated and refined (maybe even rejected) on the
> > basis of a open dialog on what's best for our nation. Toward this end,
>I
> > would like to ask those interested and able to help in the preparation
>of a
> > position paper that will be structured as follows:
> >
> > 1. Introduction
> > - Background information about The Gambia
> > - The April 10 and 11 killings
> > - An overview of the paper, and the issues it addresses
> > 2. A Historical Analysis of the Jammeh Administration
> > 2.1. Government
> > - The AFPRC Government
> > - Transition to civilian rule
> > - The Second Republic so far
> > 2.2. Economic and Development Policies
> > - Economic policies of the Jammeh administration
> > - Analysis of budgetary allocations under Jammeh - spending on
>civilian
> > and development programs, compared to military expenditure
> > - Analysis of spending trends
> > - Sources of government financing under Jammeh: taxes and excises,
> > internal debt (treasury bills, bonds); external debts (bilateral
> > governmental and private)
> > 2.3. Democracy, Human Rights, and Press Freedom
> > - Political activity under Jammeh
> > - Jammeh's human rights record
> > - Press freedom under Jammmeh
> > 2.4. Foreign Policy
> > - Sub-regional policy - Senegal/Guinea Bissau/West Africa
> > - Regional and International Issues
> > 2.5. Military Affairs
> > - A history of the Gambian military
> > - The role of the military and security agencies in The Gambia
>politics
> > - Military high-handedness, and excesses against civilians
> > 3. Proposal for a Peaceful Handover of Power
> > - Proposal for a peaceful transfer of power from President Jammeh to
>a
> > transitional government of national unity
> > - Framework for implementing the proposal
> > - NOTE: (I can draft this part, and send it out along with other
>parts
> > to Gambia-L for comments and suggestions for improving it)
> > 4. Alternative Actions if the Proposal is not Accepted
> > - I can draft this also
> > 5. Help Needed from the International Community
> > - I can draft this also
> > 6. Conclusions
> >
> > I told Senator Feingold's Aide that I will send her the paper by the end
>of
> > next week. For this reason, I would appreciate it if we can work double
> > time on this to get it out to the Senator's Office. I'm hoping that a
> > number of Gambia-L subscribers have in the past written papers or
>articles
> > addressing many if not all of the issues I mentioned above. Thus, it
>should
> > be a matter of revising and summarizing these papers, and merging them
>with
> > contributions from others to yield us something we can work with.
>Matter of
> > fact, I found (via the Gambia-L archives) the US State Dept. report,
> > published earlier this year, on human rights in The Gambia. It's worth
>a
> > read, and still available online at:
> >
> > http://www.state.gov/www/global/human_rights/1999_hrp_report/gambia.html
> >
> > For your information, I'll be more than happy to edit whatever material
>is
> > sent me, and collate them into a logical and consistent whole. I will
>then
> > forward the draft to the list for people to comment on it, and sign-on
> > before we send it out.
> >
> > That's about it for now. Please feel free to contact me directly at
> > [log in to unmask] if you have any questions. Have a great weekend, and
>best
> > wishes.
> >
> > Katim
> >
> >
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Sorry for not making the meeting last Saturday due to the
Late notification.I already had plans.
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Subject: Re: Petitions In Local Languages
Is it possible to translate some relevant posting into
Gambian local languages, using Arabic alphabet, for
People back home, particularly those up provinces
And may be post it on local news papers.
-----Original Message-----
From: Alpha Robinson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 7:43 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Petition! (French) and other issues
Gambia-L,
First of all, find attached at the bottom of this mail a french
version of the original petition. French speakers on the List may please make
atlerations and finally pass it
on to Pope. I hope Pope has the german version after Anrea Pox
Dampha's useful corrections (this version is now final I guess).
I will be away from the 24th of April to the 2nd of May
attending a conference in France. I will be monitoring the List from there. To
reach me, please use:
[log in to unmask] Also, please send all private mails
after this period to:
[log in to unmask] . Sometimes important mails
get "lost" in my account for G-L (Peter Sanyang's mail for example only came to
my notice yesterday. Sorry
for not responding on time Peter).
Notwithstanding being away, arrangement has been made with the
bank hosting the Gambia-L account, such that transactions can be effected per
e-mail or telephone contact with
the bank.
When the pressure goes down I'll be back on the forum.
Alpha Robinson
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Vendredi
14 avril 2000
Monsieur / Madame,
c'est un chapitre des plus tragiques qui vient de s'inscrire
dans l'histoire
de notre nation, à laquelle nous sommes tant attachés, la
Gambie, les 10 et
11 avril 2000. Les forces de l'ordre ont ouvert le feu, faisant
14 morts et
au moins 28 blessés, y compris un membre bénévole de la Croix
rouge, le
journaliste Omar Barrow. Ces évènements se sont déroulés pendant
une
manifestation pacifique organisée par des étudiants. Les
étudiants
protestaient contre les tortures et l'assassinat dont a été
victime un autre
étudiant, Ebrima Barry, entre les mains de membres du corps des
sapeurs-pompiers. Ils manifestaient aussi contre le viol d'une
jeune
écolière de 13 ans, Binta Manneh, par un officier de police.
Depuis lors,
des centaines d'étudiants ont été arrêtés et leurs parents
éperdus ne savent
plus si leurs enfants doivent être cherchés parmi les morts ou
les détenus.
Nous, signataires de ce document, citoyennes et citoyens
préoccupés par
cette grave situation, en appelons à vous-même et à
l'organisation à
laquelle vous appartenez, vous priant de bien vouloir continuer
à faire
pression sur le gouvernement de la République de Gambie afin que
celui-ci
prennent immédiatement les mesures suivantes :
o ordonner aux forces de l'ordre de mettre fin à tout
usage abusif
de la force contre la population civile ;
o procéder à la libération de tous les étudiants
actuellement en
détention ;
o communiquer le nom de toutes les victimes et permettre
que leur
corps soit remis à leur famille afin que toutes les
victumes
puissent être inhumées décemment ;
o ouvrir une enquête indépendante pour éclaircir les
circonstances
des coups de feu et établir les responsabilités ;
o veiller à ce que tous les membres des forces de
l'ordre qui ont
porté atteinte aux Droits de l'Homme en faisant un
usage abusif de
la force soient poursuivis selon les dispositions
prévues par la
loi, avec toute la rigueur nécessaire ;
o ordonner aux forces de l'ordre de faire preuve d'une
extrême
retenue lors des manifestations prévues pour la
semaine
prochaine ;
o veiller à ce que les responsables du meurtre d'Ebrima
Barry et du
viol de Binta Manneh soient condamnés aux peines
maximales prévues
par la loi dans les meileurs délais;
o veiller à ce que tous les membres des forces de
l'ordre soient
tenus de respecter la Constitution de la République de
Gambie
ainsi que tous les codes, traités, lois et conventions
dont la
Gambie est signataire;
Résolument confiants dans le soutien que vous ne manquerez de
nous accorder
dans cette situation d'urgence, nous profitons de l'occasion qui
nous est
offerte de vous adresser nos remerciements les plus sincères, à
vous et à
l'organisation à laquelle vous appartenez, pour l'attention que
vous prêtez
aux affaires affectant notre pays ainsi que nos concitoyennes et
concitoyens,
avec nos meilleurs sentiments,
des citoyennes et citoyens de la République de Gambie soucieux
du devenir de
leur pays
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:26:46 -0400
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Mr. Sidibeh:
Thanks for the clarification. Your views are well noted. Best wishes
on this project.
Abdoulaye
MSSidibeh wrote:
>
> Dr. Abdoulie Saine,
>
> Thanks a ton for your input. The points you raised are quite relevant and
> important and I am sure many readers have taken note of them.
> I feel however, that I need to clarify some of the positions I maintained in
> the original article which, perhaps, have not come through well because of
> any number of reasons.
>
> Some of the positions you raised, I have already commented on elsewhere and
> therefore need not be taken up once more :
>
> Dr. Saine wrote:
> ........"
> > What your analysis left out however, is how far Gambia-L has come, from
> > a forum of necessary political/social discourse and criticism to one of
> > pro-active/agency. Unquestionably, G-L(and its constituent parts) is a
> > player in The Gambia's political landscape. Collectively, we created a
> > voice and space for ourselves long before the April 10 Massacre, and
> > have since then, exerted pressure on Jammeh and his regime. The latter
> > was made possible, in part, by the practical strategies the G-L took in
> > its efforts to influence events at home.
> >
> > Not withstanding the lack of response from the Jammeh regime, The G-L
> > Position Paper(published in New African, The Independent, BBC interview
> > and other outlets)has made an impact. How much? It is hard to measure
> > as of now.. Yet, we must never judge our success and possible impact by
> > the lack of response from Jammeh and his government. This was to be
> > expected. The response I and others have received from Gambia since the
> > publication of the proposal have been positive. And in the aftermath of
> > the killings, our efforts to see justice rendered and comfort the nation
> > at a time of such a tragedy and loss, must not be underestimated. In
> > fact, the postings forwarded to us by Ebrima Ceesay from Gambia and the
> > circulation of Karamba Touray's article at home, and others I have
> > received privately, suggest that our efforts as a collective,
> > (GAMBIA-L), are positive.
>
> As you may have noted, my intention was to make a case for the need for a
> broad-based mass organisation of Gambians by trying, in a humble way, to
> highlight how its absence may have contributed to the gradual militarisation
> of Gambian society ; and by implication, the tragic events of last week.
> True, I might have paid little attention to the
> influence Gambia-L may have in Gambia (I was off the list for the past four
> months, rejoining again last week Tuesday), as I am not
> aware of any reports anyone may have made on the impact the L has on Gambian
> public thought and discourse. But I have recognised the very importance of
> the L for us and have invariably commented on that in the past.
>
> While I have no figures available, (the list managers may be able to help
> here) I should dare venture the opinion that the number of Gambia-based
> subscribers to Gambia-L is still below 100, especially taking into account
> government agencies and agents hiding behind dubious identities. The
> positive feedbacks notwithstanding, I think there are ample reasons for
> expanding participation in Gambian affairs beyond Gambia-L. There are
> thousands and thousands of civil servants, workers, students, and unemployed
> individuals who have no access to the net.
>
> You also wrote:
>
> > Also, Overseas Gambians are very diverse in their political and
> > ideological orientations. We are not a monolith. In fact, a great
> > number of us are apolitical, but not any less concerned about events at
> > home, or trying to make a contribution, however modest. To call for
> > "some kind of ideological commitment...."on the part of Gambians, is at
> > best naive and setting ourselves up for possible failure. We must rid
> > ourselves of the notion that "We Are All One" because we are not.
> > Witness the April 10 Massacre and the different versions each
> > representing different interests. More important, Gambians today are
> > distinguished along lines of wealth, class, education, gender etc.,
> > hence different material interests. I wish it were different.
>
> Naive perhaps, and yes, we are not a monolith. But certainly, we are also
> not
> a discrete collection of morbid individualists without anything in common,
> or who are irredeemably incapable of reconciliation. Gambians have on many
> occasions in the past recognized their common concerns and shared interests
> and have organized accordingly.
>
> I am afraid you must have missed the big picture Dr. Saine because the
> students who died last week in Gambia and those whose families are in
> turmoil and trauma and grief, recognised their differences, yet they
> organised a demonstration! They did not not care that Ebrima Barry was a
> Fulani (like me), or that Binta Manneh is a Mandinka GIRL(!) or that some
> were from well-to-do families while most others were from poor ones! They
> went
> out there chanting, not lazy slogans like "We Are All One", but that they
> wanted Justice. If they could find common cause in resisting callous
> brutality, in demanding justice not only for the two victims but for all of
> GAMBIAN SOCIETY, then they must have discovered an ideology sufficiently
> powerful to move them to challenge the state with all its might ; an
> ideology, that you and I are wasting wise acres - to borrow a phrase from
> Hamjatta - trying to figure out. They discovered an ideology of Resistance
>
> Yes, we may falter, fall and fail in our travails. Well, so what? We simply
> should get up, brush off the dust and TRY AGAIN.
> If there are overseas Gambians who find it better to dwell more on their
> multiple diversities rather than on what they share as products of a
> particular culture, history, and geography, and therefore cannot come to
> find common cause in a minimum programme (such as a simple Human Rights
> campaign) to work with,
> then I suggest the boat simply leaves them behind.
>
> You further wrote :
>
> > When changes occur in the lives of a people and nations, (short of a
> > revolution), it is bound to be tentative, fitful, messy and sometimes
> > slow. The Gambia and Gambians are not any different. While I commend
> > and admire the initiatives of Overseas Eritreans, our historical
> > conditions, as indicated in your first posting, are different in many
> > important respects. We are Gambians and like peoples every where, we
> > have both positive and negative attributes. That is a fact we must
> > accept and the basis upon which any analysis must proceed.
>
> I agree that our attributes are the basis upon which any analysis must
> proceed. Yet I must insist that we study differences in order to find a
> basis for international solidarity ; in order to better realize how similar
> we actually are. The professional methods of racists and bigots is to dwell
> on the differences. Serious people concerned with progess seek for
> similarities and act accordingly.
>
> In your own very important National Reconciliation Position Paper, you named
> a few countries where National reconciliation Commissions have existed. One
> was South Africa. But indeed Gambians are equally less South African as they
> are Eritrean. Gambians are not the only inhabitants of this word. We have a
> duty to learn from the experiences of other people and figure out how these
> can be incorporated into our own reality.
>
> You again went on:
>
> "Finally, it has become fashionable to scapegoat so-called intellectuals
> > and in particular, their collective failure to the nation. Again,
> > intellectuals are not a monolith and the failures at home are a
> > collective responsibility that we all must bear. Most so-called
> > intellectuals do what they can to assist family and nation, in addition,
> > to their professional contributions. To expect less of them or
> > so-called "non-intellectuals" is unforgivable.
>
> Yes, we should not expect less of them, and yes, the failures are a
> collective responsibility. But the issue is to expect much more, not less,
> from intellectuals.
>
> All over the world, ordinary people, businesses, institutions, and
> governments look on learned people to offer guidance, to provide visions,
> and to lead. The group of intellectuals that made a public apology for not
> involving adequately in the affairs of their country were well aware of
> their duty to their country ; a duty they failed miserably. Please do not
> even try to absolve them of their responsibilty. You see, their are
> thousands of Gambian farm hands picking up apples in Spain. They also help
> their families and nation in the best way they can. But inside Gambia we all
> should make a clean separation between people who spend their lives teaching
> our children and prepare them for life, from those who use their time
> selling lipstick and soda. All of us have a responsibility but we should not
> be philosophical and pretend that our responsibilities are equal.
>
> In Taiwan, twelve of the fourteen-member 1989 cabinet all acquired their
> Ph.Ds abroad. Educated Gambians must get involved in the LIFE of their
> nation.
>
> Finally Dr. Saine, I want to tell you that it all boils down to a magic word
> namely, SACRIFICE. I believe, we must respect the fact that some of us are
> afraid. Afraid of losing their jobs, afraid of being tortured, and afraid of
> going to jail. But we must hold high the efforts and sacrifices made by
> others as monumental lightposts for our collective fearful groping in the
> dark. Their are many Gambians one could name in this regard. But I think
> particularly of the exemplary sacrifice made by Sidia Jatta. Not that I am
> repeating what Amadou Kabir Njie said.
> Almost exactly ten years ago (April 1990) in a critical letter I wrote to
> Foroyaa - criticising PDOIS for mixing politics with political science, so
> to speak - I explained and confessed how Sidia's resignation letter from
> government service was such an incredible source of inspiration.
> When he rejected his high national assembly member salary, I calculated at
> the time that if the entire membership of the Assembly followed his example,
> at least 500 of the so-called uncertificated teachers, whose services were
> then being terminated, would have retained their jobs! (Unfortunately, I
> cannot remember the precise figures).
>
> It is for such reasons that I mentioned the Eritreans. I did not mean that
> we should do the same; but I wanted to point out that such collective
> sacrifice should not be seen as alien to us.
>
> Some of you with doctoral degrees on this list have stayed put inspite of
> our criticisms, sometimes even insults, our greed to pick your brains now
> and then, and have even taken leadership roles in this campaign for freedom
> in Gambia. You have won the respect and admiration of many of us. If nothing
> else, your efforts mark a great beginning for Gambia.
>
> ( I am now resting my case, pledging that I will comment no more on this
> issue. The discussion as we all know, is an open one).
>
> Thanks.
> Momodou S Sidibeh
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congratulations! Buharry& Gass,
May the Almighty give her long life and and all that you wish for her.
Yahya.
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>Hi!
> I have not been able to participate these past days because I was in
>the hospital with my wife who gave birth to a baby girl. I came back home
>yesterday to find tons of mail. I however hope that the things put in
>motion with regard to the killing of the students will not evaporate. I
>have received requests that I have not been able to deal with but I'll do
>so as soon as time permits. In the meantime, I just want to let you all
>know that I am still with you. Thanks.
>
> Buharry.
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Go to any health/natural food store and get something call, GLUCOSAMINE &
CHONDROITIN SULFATE and also get some FISH BODY OIL, to lubricate the joints
in affected areas. Cheaper and less toxic than some of the prescribed stuff.
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Reuben Abati needs to assured that there millions of other africans, probably
the majority, who love Nigeria and Nigerians if anything for what Nigeria has
done them and their countries. I personally am a great respecter of "the Giant
of Africa". What Mr Abati should realise is that one rotten egg spoils the rest.
The reasoning that for every five Africans, one is a Nigerian logically extends
to the ratio of criminals or crooks etc. Nigerians are are not a lone in this
sort of over generalisation. Even Senegal too has her own share since it is no
secret that Senegalese have been victimised in many countries, including African
ones, for simply for being Senegalese.
The Gambia too is no exception. At one time, an ordinary Gambian passport was
viewed as a "diplomatic" passport by those in our subregion an beyond especially
for those wishing to travel to Europe. Now the situation is different partly due
the behaviour of some Gambians or those travelling with Gambian identity (since
I understand Gambian passports can be bought with relative ease) particularly in
drug trafficking at the retail level. Present a Gambian passport (including the
real diplomatic one) to immigration officials anywhere in Europe and you are
automatically suspected being a drug pusher! What else warrants the long
interogations and verification of credentials over and above the norm?
Those on this forum must help to promote understanding and discourage divisive
tendencies among all Africans (of all shades) as a necessary precondition to our
attainment of a United States of Africa, whatever the political configuration.
Madiba Saidy wrote:
> GUARDIAN
>
> Sunday, April 23 , 2000
> Attack From Senegal
>
> By Reuben Abati
>
> WHEN 79-year-old Abdoulaye Wade became President of Senegal about a month
> ago, his victory was hailed world-wide as yet another indication of the
> continuing triumph of democracy in Africa. Abdou Diouf, Senegal's President
> since 1981 graciously accepted defeat. Wade, himself, is the epitome of
> perseverance and commitment. For 25 years, he had made every effort (1974,
> 1978, 1983, 1988, 1993) to become president of Senegal, and each time, he
> failed. Always, he alleged electoral malpractice, and again another time.
> Collectors of political tit-bits would easily find some parallels between
> him and Abraham Lincoln, father of American democracy. Wade's victory is
> occasioned largely by a certain fatigue among the Senegalese with the
> Diouf's way of doing things. The people wanted change, and Wade has always
> spoken of change arising from the possible death of midnight, and the rise
> of a new dawn, which is to say that Senegal poses great challenges for a
> post - Diouf Presidency: in terms of the achievement of change beyond the
> soap-box.
>
> However, Abdoulaye Wade, within one month, has shown that he does not intend
> to focus only on the problems of Senegal. Like every Senegalese who
> considers Senegal the melting pot of African civilisation and philosophy,
> Wade has been waxing lyrical and poetic about what he calls "the United
> States of Africa." Not a particularly new idea. Pan-Africanism is older than
> Wade's political career. But like Senghor, Cheik Anta Dioup and Kwame
> Nkrumah, Wade wants a stronger Africa, that is arranged along confederal
> lines. Not in itself a bad response to the felt need to re-position,
> re-energise and re-activate Africa if it must compete in an increasingly
> competitive world. Africa contributes less than six per cent of global
> trade. And yet, it has the highest prevalence rate of HIV/AIDS as well as
> other diseases. It is in addition, the poorest continent in the world - the
> only continent that still reminds the world of plague, disease and epidemic.
> Every contribution to the re-orientation of the African reality is
> necessarily welcome, and the strengthening of African states into economic
> blocs may help remove the stigma, on the long run, that this is "a dark
> continent," "a basket continent," "the last frontier."
>
> What is controversial in Wade's recommendation is his Nigeria-phobia in two
> different interviews granted Jeune Afrique and Newsweek. President Wade
> speaks of a United States of West Africa, a United States of Central Africa
> and a United States of East Africa with the caveat that Nigeria should stand
> alone. His reasoning is that with its size and population, Nigeria will
> create problems for other African states particularly in West Africa. In the
> Newsweek interview, he suggested that 10 million Nigerians could take over
> another West African country, and mess it up thoroughly. He says Nigeria is
> "unbalanced and unjust:" It adds: "Nigeria itself is in the mind and its
> government does not succeed in maintaining order in its territory, how much
> more in community of states." In the same breadth, President Wade, perhaps
> to illustrate his point at an individual level, singles out President
> Olusegun Obasanjo whom he accuses of ingratitude. Wade is supposed to have
> done a lot for President Obasanjo at the time of his imprisonment during the
> Abacha years, but now that Obasanjo is president, he has maintained towards
> Wade what the aggrieved Senegalese calls "a radio silence." The metaphor is
> intelligent. A radio is not like telephone or the internet: it doesn't give
> immediate feedback. Wade must have been seeking to connect with Obasanjo,
> and our president apparently snubbed him. So, now that Wade is president in
> Senegal, he is grabbing his pound of flesh. Obasanjo offends him, in return,
> he attacks Nigeria.
>
> Wade proves one point: you never know people until you give them power. For
> 25 years, Wade sought power. Now, he has it. May the Good Lord protect all
> the likely victims of his power. If Obasanjo did not support his bid for the
> Senegalese presidency, is that the reason why Nigeria is in the mud. Are we,
> really, in the mud? At a lower depth than Senegal? If Wade wants a United
> States of Africa, can he single-handedly impose his recommendation? His
> attack on Nigeria is misplaced. It is undiplomatic. The truth is that a
> United States of West Africa that excludes Nigeria would be a very strange
> arrangement indeed. Wade talks as if he is still in the opposition. He
> sounds as if he is still on the campaign rostrum. President Wade is
> suffering a hang-over. He is now president: he needs to be reminded of that
> fact. And the campaign ended a month ago. The president of Senegal should be
> a statesman, a diplomat, not a loose canon in international diplomacy. Wade
> and Obasanjo can sort out their personal problems whichever way suits them,
> but President Wade owes this country an apology. His comments are racist,
> unkind and tactless.
>
> The only other point that needs to be made is that President Wade's comments
> ought to be situated in the larger framework of relations between Nigerian
> and other African countries. What we find is that the primary element of
> Nigeria's foreign policy has been the maintenance of good relations with its
> African neighbours, security, stability, and co-operation in Africa, and
> assistance in any form to other African countries. Nigerians consider their
> country, the giant of Africa. We like to see ourselves as the big brother.
> One out of every five Africans is a Nigerian. But the truth is that other
> Africans do not like us. A principal outcome of Nigeria's foreign
> consideration is that our positive efforts at co-operation have only turned
> other Africans against us. When President Wade speaks negatively about
> Nigeria and Nigerians, he is not merely being unfair, rather, he expresses a
> mind-set that is widespread in the continent.
>
> In South Africa, Nigerians are generally considered criminals even if there
> are more South Africans who are drunkards, rapists and crooks. There are
> Nigerians in South Africa who are excelling in sports, business,
> advertising, science and scholarship but these are not the ones who are used
> to determine the South African conception of the Nigerian character. In
> Ghana, Nigerians are held responsible for any crime at all. Even when there
> is no Nigerian on the scene, a Nigerian name is invented to promote a
> growing stereotype in the Ghanaian society. "God," Ghanaians usually insist,
> "is not a Nigerian." When Ghanaians commit crimes, they simply supply a
> Nigerian name. It is that bad. We had a football match with Senegal, the
> other month, and the Eagles showed class and superiority. Angry Senegalese
> fans in Dakar attacked the Nigerian Embassy, and Nigerian traders. The
> situation in Gabon is not different. Between 1967 and 1970, many Nigerians,
> mostly south-easterners ran away to Gabon, to escape the evil of the civil
> war. For these Nigerians, and their children, Gabon is the the only real
> home they have ever known. Today, the people of Gabon, like the Senegalese,
> are complaining about Nigerians. In Equatorial Guinea, you only need to
> mention that you are a Nigerian, and you watch: it is an attitude thing.
> Cameroun is fighting us in Bakassi. Nigeria spent fortunes to stop the
> carnage in Liberia, and to give Liberians an opportunity to enjoy peace. The
> moment the war ended, and Charles Taylor became president, the first thing
> Taylor did was to ask Nigeria to get off his back. The Murtala-Obasanjo
> regime deployed resources in support of the liberation struggles in Central
> and Southern Africa: what has Nigeria gained from all that? I once tried to
> be friendly with an ECOWAS sister (that was long ago, mind you). The lady
> was friendly until I disclosed my nationality. "You Nigerians are too fast,"
> she declared. And she moved away. Other Africans blame us for being
> talented. They detest our size and population. They blame us for their
> poverty.
>
> The lesson from all this is that we need to re-consider the content of
> Nigeria's foreign policy as regards Africa. Foreign policy must be
> constructed in terms of advantages. If Nigeria's constructive engagement
> with Africa has brought only hate and resentment for the most part, then
> something is wrong with the style, content and execution of Nigeria's
> foreign policy in Africa. It is not enough, then to blame Wade. Nigeria's
> foreign policy must begin at home: it must be anchored on a strong domestic
> policy. Other African countries take us for granted because when we boast
> about our greatness, they don't see it in the way we plan our lives. When
> they had democracy, we didn't have. There is GSM in Republic of Benin, and
> the telephones work in Ghana as well: The Nigerian communications system is
> such a nightmare. There is constant power supply in Togo, here, we are in
> darkness all the time. The Apapa Port in Lagos is so problematic that many
> Nigerians prefer to use the Cotonou port in Benin Republic. Besides, the
> kind of stories that come out of Nigeria are like stories from hell. Those
> who seek respect from others must first respect themselves. If we Nigerians
> do not love ourselves, how can we in good conscience, expect outsiders to
> love us?
>
> Arthur Nzeribe has been using the word, impeachment. Wade is also talking of
> impeachment. As for Wade, he is lucky Nigeria is a different nation. If
> Abacha or Babangida were still president, Wade's position as president of
> Senegal would have been in jeopardy: a coup would have been organised
> against him. But of course, these are happier times. That is why Wade, like
> Nzeribe, can afford to leak from the mouth like a basket.
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Ah! here he goes again, when will this man face tell the truth??
A.Drammeh.
Jammeh visits students, others at RVH
=20
The president, Yahya Jammeh, Friday visited the RVH to console students =
receiving treatment for wounds received during the fatal clashes of =
April 10 and 11.=20
Only 15 students are currently admitted, three of them at the Intensive =
Care Unit.The president offered to take care of the students provisions =
during their stay at the hospital.=20
Talking to Daily Observer after receiving their first provision =
package, several students thanked the president for his concern about =
their welfare.=20
Musa Kanaji from Brikama-ba Middle School said, "We are very grateful to =
the president." Assan Suwareh of Banjul Academy said, "We are happy to =
see the president himself here and all we want to say is to thank him =
for his sympathy towards us."=20
Yassin Jobe, Assan's mother said, "We are grateful even without the =
provisions because his visit alone has given us a sense of comfort. We =
know our children's fate is not his desire and it is God's will that =
they are wounded. Others have died, so it is all the will of Allah."=20
Sainabou Camara of Bakoteh High School, Sainey Senghore of Essau, Baba =
Suwareh of Crab Island and Bakary Njie of Pipeline Comprehensive =
expressed similar sentiments.=20
The president also visited the other wards in the hospital, lasting four =
hours. He chatted with the patients and offered prayers for the =
sick.Among them was the RVH's eldest patient, 120-year-old Pa Alhaji =
Ceesay of Kaur who harped on what he called, the president's "messages =
of peace and stability" in the early days of the 1994 coup.=20
In a related development, a presidential delegation led by the =
vice-president, Isatou Njie-Saidy, Thursday called on the bereaved =
families to offer the condolences of the government. The delegation =
included the Religious Affairs secretary, Lamin Kaba Bajo.=20
At the home of Omar Barrow at Latrikunda German, Mr Bajo expressed shock =
about the incident.He prayed for the souls of the late Omar Barrow and =
other victims to rest in peace.=20
Kanifing Municipal Council chairman, Abdoulai Conteh, commended the =
volunteers of Gambia Red Cross Society, saying they render invaluable =
service to the community.=20
He expressed regrets about the death of Omar Barrow, saying, "every =
body felt it."He urged the Barrow family to have faith.In response, =
Malanding Barrow, father of the late Omar Barrow, thanked the delegation =
for their call.=20
He said he accepted the death of his son in good faith while stressing =
that Omar was "very helpful" to him and his family.He called on =
government to be more tolerant.Banding Drammeh, president of the Supreme =
Islamic Council, was among the delegation..=20
culled from observer page. =20
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11.=20
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Intensive Care=20
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during their=20
stay at the hospital.=20
<P>Talking to Daily Observer after receiving their first provision =
package, several students thanked the president for his concern about =
their=20
welfare.=20
<P>Musa Kanaji from Brikama-ba Middle School said, "We are very grateful =
to the=20
president." Assan Suwareh of Banjul Academy said, "We are happy to see =
the=20
president himself here and all we want to say is to thank him for his =
sympathy=20
towards us."=20
<P>Yassin Jobe, Assan's mother said, "We are grateful even without the=20
provisions because his visit alone has given us a sense of comfort. We =
know our=20
children's fate is not his desire and it is God's will that they are =
wounded.=20
Others have died, so it is all the will of Allah."=20
<P>Sainabou Camara of Bakoteh High School, Sainey Senghore of Essau, =
Baba=20
Suwareh of Crab Island and Bakary Njie of Pipeline Comprehensive =
expressed=20
similar sentiments.=20
<P>The president also visited the other wards in the hospital, lasting =
four=20
hours. He chatted with the patients and offered prayers for the =
sick.Among them=20
was the RVH's eldest patient, 120-year-old Pa Alhaji Ceesay of Kaur who =
harped=20
on what he called, the president's "messages of peace and stability" in =
the=20
early days of the 1994 coup.=20
<P>In a related development, a presidential delegation led by the=20
vice-president, Isatou Njie-Saidy, Thursday called on the bereaved =
families to=20
offer the condolences of the government. The delegation included the =
Religious=20
Affairs secretary, Lamin Kaba Bajo.=20
<P>At the home of Omar Barrow at Latrikunda German, Mr Bajo expressed =
shock=20
about the incident.He prayed for the souls of the late Omar Barrow and =
other=20
victims to rest in peace.=20
<P>Kanifing Municipal Council chairman, Abdoulai Conteh, commended the=20
volunteers of Gambia Red Cross Society, saying they render invaluable =
service to=20
the community.=20
<P>He expressed regrets about the death of Omar Barrow, saying, =
"every=20
body felt it."He urged the Barrow family to have faith.In response, =
Malanding=20
Barrow, father of the late Omar Barrow, thanked the delegation for their =
call.=20
<P>He said he accepted the death of his son in good faith while =
stressing that=20
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be more=20
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Well would anyone like to be a good samaritan to donate these medical items and get back with me thru my private email address: [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask]
I have already donating a neubilizer for an asthma patient. I just bought more medication that goes with it and I am kinda short with cash right now..
So if anyone would like to HELP please get in touch wit me quickly ...coz I am about to ship the items.
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It's a pity the kids are buying his crocodile tears. The guy has no remorse
for what he has done. This is exactly what was said here earlier. "He wants
to foot the kids' bills."
I wonder how the Vice President, the Interior Secretary, and the Army
Commander are feeling? Must be feeling betrayed!! Those three need to
resign, and come out with the truth before it gets too late for them.
Pope, what's up with the web site? Time is running against us. The secretary
general probably has already left the country.
The struggle continues....
Mba
Ah! here he goes again, when will this man face tell the truth??
A.Drammeh.
Jammeh visits students, others at
RVH
The president, Yahya Jammeh, Friday visited the RVH to console students
receiving treatment for wounds received during the fatal clashes
of April 10 and 11.
Only 15 students are currently admitted, three of them at the Intensive Care
Unit.The president offered to take care of the students
provisions during their stay at the hospital.
Talking to Daily Observer after receiving their first provision package,
several students thanked the president for his concern about their
welfare.
Musa Kanaji from Brikama-ba Middle School said, "We are very grateful to the
president." Assan Suwareh of Banjul Academy said, "We
are happy to see the president himself here and all we want to say is to
thank him for his sympathy towards us."
Yassin Jobe, Assan's mother said, "We are grateful even without the
provisions because his visit alone has given us a sense of comfort. We
know our children's fate is not his desire and it is God's will that they
are wounded. Others have died, so it is all the will of Allah."
Sainabou Camara of Bakoteh High School, Sainey Senghore of Essau, Baba
Suwareh of Crab Island and Bakary Njie of Pipeline
Comprehensive expressed similar sentiments.
The president also visited the other wards in the hospital, lasting four
hours. He chatted with the patients and offered prayers for the
sick.Among them was the RVH's eldest patient, 120-year-old Pa Alhaji Ceesay
of Kaur who harped on what he called, the president's
"messages of peace and stability" in the early days of the 1994 coup.
In a related development, a presidential delegation led by the
vice-president, Isatou Njie-Saidy, Thursday called on the bereaved families
to
offer the condolences of the government. The delegation included the
Religious Affairs secretary, Lamin Kaba Bajo.
At the home of Omar Barrow at Latrikunda German, Mr Bajo expressed shock
about the incident.He prayed for the souls of the late Omar
Barrow and other victims to rest in peace.
Kanifing Municipal Council chairman, Abdoulai Conteh, commended the
volunteers of Gambia Red Cross Society, saying they render
invaluable service to the community.
He expressed regrets about the death of Omar Barrow, saying, "every body
felt it."He urged the Barrow family to have faith.In response,
Malanding Barrow, father of the late Omar Barrow, thanked the delegation for
their call.
He said he accepted the death of his son in good faith while stressing that
Omar was "very helpful" to him and his family.He called on
government to be more tolerant.Banding Drammeh, president of the Supreme
Islamic Council, was among the delegation..
culled from observer page.
A.Drammeh
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Ya Fatou,
I would want to know what kind of neb treatment is the asthmatic patient
getting.
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Baboucarr,
If you think that his ideas are informative and educative why bother what
kind of name he used. We are in the world of technology,let the brother
breath.Nothing personal.
Terve
buba
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>Mr Ebou colly
>I really find your ideas informative and educative. I just want to mention
>that it has been highly rumoured that you are not really ebou colly. If so
>WHY should you hide your identity?
>
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>>Subject: YAYA MUST RESIGN (PART TWO)
>>Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:38:13 -0700
>>
>> YAYA MUST
>>RESIGN (PART-TWO)
>>
>>
>>The news that Yaya went to the hospital to see the
>>children he had ordered for their killing but were
>>fortunate to be saved by god was the climax of his
>>mockery to the bereaved families and the entire
>>Gambian people. Don’t be surprised therefore if by
>>next week he goes on the air with recommendations to
>>have the families compensated financially by
>>government for the death of the children. The Kaninlai
>>butcher is now on his usual appeasing strategy. After
>>killing so many Gambians and then successfully
>>wriggling out of them in the past, he now believes he
>>has perfected that demonic talent to the point where
>>he could get away with the worst kind scenario.
>>Killing the school children would be something he
>>would celebrate in his private moments and might
>>perhaps boast happily about sending the kids six-foot
>>deep. He must resign for this crime.
>>
>>There are certain things that I am sure he would now
>>be working on to survive his crime in the eyes of the
>>general public. He would start distancing himself from
>>Isatou Njie Saidy and her team that tried desperately
>>to defend the shooting. It is even possible that he
>>may fire some of them if the public pressure is
>>sustained in the face of his slick efforts. There is
>>no doubt in my mind also that he would be banking
>>heavily on his newly appointed minister of justice Mr.
>>Pap Choi Yassin Secka to cover up for him where every
>>thing should fail. So Mr. Secka must brace up for the
>>two critical options on his drawing board. If he does
>>not make things good for Yaya and clears his name
>>altogether, he should be prepared to get the sack very
>>soon like all his predecessors suffered. For example,
>>if Mr. Secka for a moment tries to confirm the
>>undeniable fact that there were no rubber-bullet guns
>>used but AK47’s with live rounds in the operation, he
>>would be seen as deviating from the expectations of
>>Yaya and would no doubt lose his new job. Certainly,
>>the establishment of that truth should be the opening
>>passage to almost all the facts, because those who
>>lied about that would be forced to confess. And their
>>confession would clearly hang Yaya by the balls. But
>>on a more limited perception, Mr. Secka may choose to
>>join the bandwagon of the intellectual prostitutes for
>>the purpose of keeping his job and not considering the
>>permanent destruction of his historical image. The
>>usual argument that the veteran lawyer is well
>>cultured and schooled and would not therefore
>>compromise his integrity shall never sway me,
>>especially after experiencing Fafa Mbye’s era. Too
>>many outstanding intellectuals have gone down in
>>history with monsters like Adolf Hitler, a reality
>>that still puzzles the minds of analytical historians.
>>Samuel Doe went down with a lot of them as well, not
>>forgetting Bokassa and Musa Trawalleh the child
>>killers. So Yaya the latest child killer would
>>certainly sink with some of them as well.
>>
>>Apart from depending on his new Minister of Justice to
>>help him out, Yaya would also retreat to his oracles
>>(jalangs), at kaninlai. He would therefore sacrifice a
>>lot of cattle and other animals for charity,
>>distributing thousands of cola-nuts to praying grounds
>>and soaking himself in nasty liquid charms “saafara”,
>>with the strong conviction that it would work for him
>>to escape his criminal actions.
>>
>>
>>But I want to remind him how those foolish things
>>don’t work for him most of the time. After the
>>Farafenni attack for example on the 8th of November
>>1996, he instructed his former guard commander
>>Lieutenant Landing Sanneh to carry out one of the most
>>primitive rituals in the barracks. State guard
>>personnel were sent to bury several bags of ordinary
>>salt everywhere in the camp. This could be confirmed
>>with those soldiers serving at 2Infantry Battalion,
>>Farafenni barracks. When we asked Yaya why, he said he
>>was advised by his juju-man to do so which would be
>>the final guarantee that no army camp would ever be
>>attacked by surprise again. Eight months after, on the
>>21st of July 1997, Kartong was attacked in the most
>>surprising manner ever imagined. When we met him
>>after, the idiot had totally forgotten about the
>>previous year’s rituals and had to tell us that he had
>>dreamt about the Kartong attack weeks ago but that he
>>had performed stronger rituals that made it a failure.
>>
>>
>>In that same year in 1997, he almost died from another
>>ritual he was trying to perform with wild bees at
>>Kaninlai village. Captain L. T. Tamba was there and
>>was a live witness to that embarrassing incident. Yaya
>>trying to mystify himself before us told everybody
>>including his guards not to follow him under one big
>>tree where he said he was going to discuss certain
>>things with his ancestral bees. He even warned us that
>>if we followed him under the tree, the bees could
>>sting us and that would mean death to any one stung.
>>So we stayed away from a reasonable distance watching.
>>However, shortly after he stated acting as if he was
>>talking to the bees buzzing around their hives on the
>>branches, the insects suddenly attacked and almost
>>killed him while he ran all over the dusty bushes. If
>>it had not been for the guards, his ancestral bees
>>would have probably sting him to death. Yet the moron
>>had to later send an old haggard-looking woman from
>>the village to tell us that the bees attacked Yaya
>>because they were upset with him for not greeting them
>>when he first arrived in the village that morning.
>>This is not a joke Gambians; this is the real
>>mentality of the president leading our country. If he
>>should therefore dream that killing school children
>>was the right thing to do as may be prescribed by his
>>“jalangs” he would do it and later retreat to them to
>>save his neck.
>>
>>Turning to the soldiers now, it is important for you
>>to know how badly Yaya has destroyed your image all
>>over the world for the very crimes he has been
>>committing particularly in this last one. After using
>>you in this unforgivable crime, he is now pretending
>>not to be part of what happened on April 10. So all of
>>you have a great responsibility to worry about. You
>>must clear this negative image by doing what you are
>>suppose to do for the Gambian people. If Yaya would
>>not resign, you must remove him out of power and call
>>for the civilians to organize elections within three
>>months and give them the political power that belongs
>>to them. That would be the only way you can restore
>>your credibility once more. Yaya being around you will
>>destroy all the prestige and honor you used to enjoy
>>as professional soldiers. YAYA MUST RESIGN! YAYA MUST
>>RESIGN!
>>
>>
>>
>>Ebou Colly
>>
>>
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Mbindan,
I am sorry to learn that someone you know is suffering from Rheumatoid
Arthritis. I have seen and nursed some people with it and I can tell you that
it is a very painful joint disease which researchers are yet to reveal its
cause more over a cure for.
A lot of those affected have been advised to wear copper bracelets, drink
vinegar, honey and a lot of other local interventions without any scientific
effects. Patients are normally assisted to minimize pain and joint deformity.
A lot of people are given Ibuprofen which helps to decrease both pain and
inflammation. Adrenocorticoids have been very successful to comfort these
patients, but to cure it has yet to be achieved.
I wish this particular patient well and all those who might be suffering form
any sort of arthritis. If you have a prescription in the Gambia and wants to
fill and the medication is unavailable in the Gambia, one might be able to
help you. Only that most of these meds are already in the Gambia or Senegal.
You could also check on WWW.ARTHRITIS.COM to learn more. I hope this helps
you and the patient. I wish him/her a very speedy recovery and comfort.
Ousman Bojang.
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Congratulations brother Buhary and my dearest sister Gass.
May Allah give the baby girl longlife, goodhealth and prosperity.
May your Today, better than your Yesterday, and your Tomarrow, better than
your Today.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
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> >Hi!
> > I have not been able to participate these past days because I was in
> >the hospital with my wife who gave birth to a baby girl. I came back home
> >yesterday to find tons of mail. I however hope that the things put in
> >motion with regard to the killing of the students will not evaporate. I
> >have received requests that I have not been able to deal with but I'll do
> >so as soon as time permits. In the meantime, I just want to let you all
> >know that I am still with you. Thanks.
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Africa: Debt Cancellation Update
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+++++++++++++++++++++Document Profile+++++++++++++++++++++
Region: Continent-Wide
Issue Areas: +economy/development+
Summary Contents:
This posting contains two recent documents relating to African
debt cancellation campaigns. The first relates to organizing
for a meeting in Dakar projected for December 2000, initiated
by several African and European networks. Additional groups
interested are urged to get in touch with the Comite pour
l'Annulation de la Dette du Tiers Monde (CADTM) / Committee
for the Cancellation of Third World Debt (COCAD) at
[log in to unmask] (more contact information below). The second
document is a summary report from a Jubilee 2000 Zambia
workshop on apartheid-caused debt. For additional information
see both the Jubilee 2000 web site cited below and the
Alternative Information and Development Centre web site
(http://www.aidc.org.za).
For additional links to documents and organizations working on
debt, see http://www.africapolicy.org/action/debt.htm
For a recent call from former Zambian President Kenneth Kaunda
for total debt cancellation, published in the New Statesman,
see http://www.newstatesman.co.uk/200004170023.htm
"Africa has paid its dues many times," Kaunda notes.
+++++++++++++++++end profile++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Amsterdam APPEAL
For the Cancellation of African debt
Africa : From Resistance to Alternatives
For more information:
CADTM / COCAD, 29, Rue Plantin, B-1070
Bruxelles, Belgium.
Tel: 32-2-257-59-90; Fax: 32-2-522-61-27
e-mail: [log in to unmask]
Web: http://users.skynet.be/cadtm
[For more background on the Dakar 2000 meeting, see in
particular http://users.skynet.be/cadtm/angdakka.htm]
The new slavery in Africa, which results from the burden of
the debt and the enforcement of structural adjustment
policies, is an unprecendented shame at the beginning of the
21st century. In an overwhemling majority of African countries
servicing the debt drains more money that allocated to both
education and health services. It should be obvious that each
cent spent on paying for the cost of public debts is lost in
the urgent fight against poverty, illiteracy, malaria, AIDS
and other wide spread diseases, some of which could be easily
cured. The structural ajustment policies imposed by the World
Bank and the IMF have largely contributed to sink many African
countries in a deep economic depression : they exacerbated
social and gender inequality, they spread poverty on a large
scale, they jeopardize the environment and access to food and
water, they fuel armed conflicts and thus create conditions
that are favourable to recolonizing the continent through
pirvatization and liberalization policies.
Like all preceding gestures, the initiatives taken in Cologne
(June 1999) and in Cairo (April 2000) do not offer any actual
solution.
Considering this tragic predicament a wide-spread movement has
organized on a global scale : we appeal for the cancellation
of the Third World debt and for the suppression of adjustment
policies that have only contribute to more poverty wherever
they are enforced.
In most cases the debt was contracted by non democratic
governments that were often supported by industrialized
countries. The borrowed money was used to finance repressive
when not genocidal policies (as in Rwanda in 1994) and never
helped the people of the indebted countries. The embezzlement
of public loans was systematically organized in full knowledge
of public and private loaners in industrialized countries. In
terms of international law the 'odious' debt that results from
such loans is invalid.
In the specific case of subsaharan Africa an irrefutable
historical argument in favour of unconditional cancellation is
that what is owed to western 'loaners' is only a tiny portion
of what European have stolen there since the 15th century.
Slavery robbed the continent of 60 to 100 millions inhabitants
to transport them to the Americas, colonization and current
recolonization have drained it of its natural as well as human
resources. Africa has already paid more than enough.
Today the World Bank, which is largely responsible for the
disaster of the last thirty years, acknowledges that the
standards for human development are plummetting in Africa. The
actual income per inhabitant has steadily dropped over this
period. In several African countries life expectancy (which
hardly reached 46) is dramatically falling as a consequence of
abject poverty. Yet the IMF and the WB still insist on
imposing structural adjustments to pay for (or at least
service) their debts through initiatives that claim to help
Heavily Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC Initiative). The only
change is on the level of discourse : we now hear of Poverty
Reduction Strategy Paper (PRSP) instead of Structural
Adjustment Program (SAP).
For these reasons an immediate and unconditional cancellation
of Africa's foreign debts is no more than an ethical demand
for social justice. It would free resources that are urgently
needed for investments in production (which will provide jobs
for younger generations), for health, education, culture,
women's emancipation, for the eradication of poverty and the
preservation of the environment and thus of biodiversity.
Africa must simultaneously put a stop to adjustment policies
that are largely responsible for its current catastrophic
situation. The stress on budget austerity in the name of an
alleged "macroeconomic equilibrium" and wide-spread
privatizations have led to a dramatic reduction of public
expenditure, which in turn results in recession, unemployment
and poverty.
Liberalization and privatisation policies have contributed to
transnational corporations controling African economies. The
libre echange creed has deprived Africa of food security.
Cultural creation is subjected to a wild competition by
cultural products from industrialized countries. Only if
Africa puts a stop to such policies can it hope recover some
autonomy in shaping its own development policies.
African people cannot be expected to be passive in front of
the sacrifice of whole generations and of a new colonization
that hides its true nature. African personalities and
organizations are determined to rely on popular support to
participate in a global mobilization which has found a new
impetus with the "Jubilee 2000" campaign, mobilizing as it
does millions of people throughout the world and collecting
over 20 millions signatures that were presented to the G-7
leaders in Cologne in June 1999. But the "Jubilee 2000"
campaign ends at the end of the year. It is thus urgent to
take stock of what has been gained and to review the limits of
the campaign in order to carry on the struggle for the
cancellation of Africa's debt, the suppression of adjustment
policies and the elaboration of policies aiming at sustainable
human development.
The present appeal follows upon the declarations at Accra
(Jubilee 2000 - April 1998), Lusaka (Jubilee 2000 - May 1999),
Johannesburg (Jubilee South - November 1999) and Yaounde
(January 2000), as well as of converging initiatives such as
that of ATTAC (Paris - June 1999), the protest in Seattle, the
Women's World March in 2000 and the Bangkok appeal (February
2000), all of them demanding the cancellation of the debt in
Third World countries.
Gathered in Amsterdam on 4 to 7 April, we appeal for an
international and panafrican meeting in Dakar on 12 to 17
December 2000 that will be called DAKAR 2000 : from Resistance
to Alternatives. Its objectives will be:
1. to assess Africa's debt at the end of the year 2000 after
the jubilee campaign and to consider the impact of bilateral
and multilateral solutions for the "lightening" of the debt;
2. to review the economic, social and human effects of
structural adjustment policies, focusing on key-sectors such
as education, health, employment, income distribution,
traditional farming ;
3. to devise short-, medium- and long-term strategies in order
to
a. achieve the cancellation of the debt and the suppression of
adjustment programs,
b. contribute to the implementation of a development policy
based on the needs of the people. This presupposes new forms
of mobilization and new ways of distributing wealth as well as
new financing methods such as the recovery of
illicitly-acquired goods, a tax on international financial
transactions, fair trade and fair taxation policies.
First signatories:
* Association Internationale des Techniciens Experts et
Chercheurs (AITEC - France)
* Association pour le Commerce Equitable de Geneve (ACEG -
Suisse)
* Alternative Information and Development Center (AIDC - South
Africa)
* Centre National de Cooperation au Developpement / National
Center for Development and Cooperation (CNCD - Brussels),
* Centre Europe - Tiers Monde (CETIM - Suisse)
* Comite pour l'Annulation de la Dette du Tiers Monde (CADTM)/
Committee for the Cancellation of Third World Debt (COCAD),
* Commission Tiers Monde de l'Eglise Catholique (COTMEC -
SUISSE)
* Conseil des Organisations Non Gouvernementales d'Appui au
Developpement (CONGAD - Senegal),
* Coalition Congolaise pour l'Annulation de la Dette et le
Developpement (CCADD - DR Congo),
* Confederation Paysanne (France)
* Coalition Jubilee 2000 du Mali (CNM/J2000 - Mali)
* Groupe Dette Tiers Monde - ATTAC Geneve Suisse
* Federation des Associations de Solidarite avec les
Travailleurs Immigres (FASTI - France)
* Service de Renforcement des Appuis aux Communautes de Base
en Afrique Centrale (Seracob - Burundi, Rwanda, RD Congo)
* Trans National Institute (TNI - Pays-Bas)
* Union Nationale des Syndicats Autonomes du Senegal (UNSAS -
Senegal)
To get more information, please supply the following
information and write to CADTM / COCAD, 29, Rue Plantin, B-
1070 Bruxelles, Belgium. Tel: 32-2-257-59-90; Fax: 32-2-522-
61-27; e-mail: [log in to unmask]
Movement:
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Email:
Name of the "personne responsable":
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WORKSHOP: "APARTHEID CAUSED-DEBT: THE CASE OF ZAMBIA"
For more information:
Jubilee 2000 Zambia Campaign, c/o JESUIT CENTRE FOR
THEOLOGICAL REFLECTION, P.O. Box 37774, 10101 Lusaka, Zambia
Tel: 260-1-290-410; Fax: 260-1-290-759; E-mail:
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Web Page: http://www.jctr.org.zm/jubilee2000.htm
Consisting of a working group of 25 people, this workshop was
held on March 14, 2000. This one-day meeting focused on
international, regional and national efforts in campaigning
for the cancellation of debts accrued as a result of the
apartheid system in South Africa.
Presenting the international scene, Mr Theo Kneifel from KASA,
Ecumenical Agency for Advocacy Work on Southern Africa,
Germany, gave a background to the apartheid caused-debt
activities, the rationale and purpose. He explained that the
debt is perceived as unpayable and illegitimate. It basically
addresses the question of "who pays who?" Based on this
question, the campaign declares that all loans to the
apartheid regime and its agents are odious, loans given to the
neighbouring states as assistance to resist Pretoria's
destabilisation policy should be cancelled, apartheid linked
loans that have already been repaid were paid from the
suffering of the people and lastly, companies, governments and
banks that did not heed to the international call for
sanctions against South Africa sustained the apartheid regime
and the profites accrued as a results are tainted and
therefore, reparation payments should now be made to the
people of Southern Africa.
Mr Theo informed the participants that international advocacy
work has concentrated on urging Government and private
multilateral company creditors to cancel such debts and make
repayments. Mr Neville Gabriel of Jubilee 2000-South Africa
presented a paper on the campaign about apartheid caused-debt
at regional level. Recognising regional solidarity as the main
thrust of the campaign at this level, Mr Gabriel stressed the
importance of viewing the servicing of these debts from the
moral aspect as it is done at the expense of poverty. He
explained that Jubilee South perceived these debts from the
moral, economic, political, historical and legal points. With
this, Jubilee South supports a shift from the "Charity"
approach which implies leniency for debt forgiveness to the
"Justice" approach which demands fairness and cancellation of
debts.
On activities at the regional level, Mr Gabriel informed the
participants that efforts have focused on further research and
consolidation of solidarity in calling for cancellation and
demanding payment of reparations.
On behalf of Jubilee 2000-Zambia, Barbara Kalima and Charity
Musamba presented some preliminary findings on "Apartheid
Caused-Debt: The Case of Zambia". The findings indicated a
high possibility of the Zambian Government spending hugely on
anti-apartheid activities during the 1970s and 1980s. Recorded
as the longest standing conflicting state of the apartheid
system, Zambia was found to have spent large portions of
funds, time and human resource in economic, defence,
liberation movements and reconstruction activities.
Events cited included the building of the Tanzania-Zambia
railway line, INDENI oil Refinery, and the pipeline, the
Great North Road, airlifting of copper exports, defence
equipment, training and hosting of freedom fighters from
throughout the southern African region.
A narrative paper on anti-apartheid activities in Zambia,
presented by the last Minister of Finance and Economic
Planning during the second Republic, Mr Rabbinson Chongo,
classified the costs into four categories; namely,
infrastructural cost of de-linkage, direct military cost,
import and export costs and intangible costs.
In his presentation, Mr Chongo stressed the rationale for the
stance taken by Zambia at that time. It being the only first
independent state in southern African region, Zambia had to
spearhead liberation efforts and opposed any system that
perpetuated minority dominance. Dictatorial systems had been
condemned internationally, and Zambia had been a signatory to
such declarations.
He confirmed that Zambia had to incur a lot of costs for
taking a decision. First, Zambia's relations with the rest of
the states in the region were strained. Secondly, the Pretoria
Government pursued as aggressive policy against Zambia, its
opponent. Thirdly, Zambia had to borrow and misdirect national
resources in order to meet the demands caused by apartheid
pressures.
Encouraged by this presentation, the participants recommended
a detailed, systematic and accurate account on apartheid
caused-debt for Zambia. Ideas on consolidating regional
networking were also discussed. Jubilee 2000-Zambia will
commit itself to continue this research and advocacy.
Further information on the study shall be made available in
due course and a report on this workshop will be available.
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:14:38 EDT
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Sorry but this turns my stomach.They sur eknow how to paly the game don't
they?
Too bad our people are so naive sometimes, while others are too afraid to
express what they really feel.
Jabou Joh
Ah! here he goes again, when will this man face tell the truth??
A.Drammeh.
Jammeh visits students, others at RVH
The president, Yahya Jammeh, Friday visited the RVH to console students
receiving treatment for wounds received during the fatal clashes of April 10
and 11.
Only 15 students are currently admitted, three of them at the Intensive Care
Unit.The president offered to take care of the students provisions during
their stay at the hospital.
Talking to Daily Observer after receiving their first provision package,
several students thanked the president for his concern about their welfare.
Musa Kanaji from Brikama-ba Middle School said, "We are very grateful to the
president." Assan Suwareh of Banjul Academy said, "We are happy to see the
president himself here and all we want to say is to thank him for his
sympathy towards us."
Yassin Jobe, Assan's mother said, "We are grateful even without the
provisions because his visit alone has given us a sense of comfort. We know
our children's fate is not his desire and it is God's will that they are
wounded. Others have died, so it is all the will of Allah."
Sainabou Camara of Bakoteh High School, Sainey Senghore of Essau, Baba
Suwareh of Crab Island and Bakary Njie of Pipeline Comprehensive expressed
similar sentiments.
The president also visited the other wards in the hospital, lasting four
hours. He chatted with the patients and offered prayers for the sick.Among
them was the RVH's eldest patient, 120-year-old Pa Alhaji Ceesay of Kaur who
harped on what he called, the president's "messages of peace and stability"
in the early days of the 1994 coup.
In a related development, a presidential delegation led by the
vice-president, Isatou Njie-Saidy, Thursday called on the bereaved families
to offer the condolences of the government. The delegation included the
Religious Affairs secretary, Lamin Kaba Bajo.
At the home of Omar Barrow at Latrikunda German, Mr Bajo expressed shock
about the incident.He prayed for the souls of the late Omar Barrow and other
victims to rest in peace.
Kanifing Municipal Council chairman, Abdoulai Conteh, commended the
volunteers of Gambia Red Cross Society, saying they render invaluable service
to the community.
He expressed regrets about the death of Omar Barrow, saying, "every body
felt it."He urged the Barrow family to have faith.In response, Malanding
Barrow, father of the late Omar Barrow, thanked the delegation for their
call.
He said he accepted the death of his son in good faith while stressing that
Omar was "very helpful" to him and his family.He called on government to be
more tolerant.Banding Drammeh, president of the Supreme Islamic Council, was
among the delegation..
culled from observer page.
A.Drammeh
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Following is the petition developed by The Movement
For The Restoration Of Democracy In The Gambia which
we are using as we prepare for the New York
Demonstration before the Gambian Mission and the
United Nations on May 2, 2000. We welcome all fellow
Gambia-L's to utilize this petition in our concerted
campaign to stop the atrocities taking place in The
Gambia. This document (word document) has also been
attached to this e-mail for those members wishing to
download and print out for easy distribution. We will
also forward the fact sheet and flyer as inline text
and as an attachment as well.
______________________________________________________
PETITION PETITION
MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION
OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA
1920 Walton Avenue, Suite 5B
Bronx, New York 10453
Tel/Fax: (718) 842-6162
THE MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION FOR DEMOCRACY IN THE
GAMBIA sorrowfully announces the murder of Gambian
Students by The Gambian Army and Paramilitary on 10
and 11 April 2000 in violation of International Human
Rights and Constitutional Rights. Gambian students
have an inalienable and entrenched right under the
1997 Constitution, Section 25(d) to "freedom to
assemble and demonstrate peaceably and without arms."
These rights are echoed and guaranteed under the
African Charter and under the United Nations'
International Convention on Civil and Political
Rights.
¨ The student demonstration was organized by the
Gambian Students Union (GAMSU) in Banjul, Brikama and
other towns to protest the torture and death of
19-year-old student, Ebrima Barry on 9 March by
Brikama Fire Service personnel, and the rape of
13-year-old Binta Manneh by a police officer, on 10
March 2000.
¨ GAMSU requested a permit for the intended peaceful
demonstration, which was denied, yet the Department of
State for the Interior issued a press release
"threatening any student who dared to disturb the
peace."
¨ When students assembled in front of the Gambian
Technical Training Institute on April 10th to march to
the city center, Paramilitary Units menacingly ordered
the students to disperse, then proceeded to chase,
kick and stomp on the heads of falling students and
then finally shooting indiscriminately into the crowd.
¨ President Yahya Jammeh administration's directive to
utilize live ammunition to quell the student
demonstration resulted in the slaughter of a minimum
of 14 people (reports indicate that as many as 50
persons have been murdered). Omar Barrow, a
journalist at SUD FM Radio, Banjul, was murdered by
paramilitary personnel while serving as a readily
identifiable Red Cross volunteer assisting the wounded
and dying.
¨ A minimum of 128 students and other persons have
been injured, many requiring hospitalization. Due to
poor medical facilities, many of the injured require
life saving medical treatment outside of the country.
Royal Victoria Hospital has indicated that there is a
shortage of blood and that the situation is
disastrous. Among the wounded is a 3-year old child
lying in the hospital with a bullet in his head.
Doctors in the Gambia do not have the necessary
facilities to perform the required life saving
operation for him.
¨ Numerous students are missing, including Alhaji
Darbo, Vice President of GAMSU and Alieu Khan,
President of the College Students Sub-Union. Hundreds
of students continue to be rounded up for questioning,
arrested and detained at undisclosed locations
throughout The Gambia. Distraught parents do not know
whether their children are among the dead or detained.
¨ Reports have been received that the government is
refusing to turn over the bodies of murdered students
to their families. In addition, the government has
not made available to the public, identification of
all individuals presently being detained, nor account
for missing persons.
THE MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION FOR DEMOCRACY IN THE
GAMBIA consisting of Gambians, Africans (Continental
and Diaspora), and Concerned Friends of The Gambia ask
for an immediate investigation into the atrocities and
human rights violations that continue to plague The
Gambia. Your support and advocacy is needed to insure
that the following actions/reactions relative to The
Gambian Government take effect:
¨ Express concern as to the human rights violations
and excessive force utilized by Gambian security
forces in interrupting constitutionally guaranteed
student demonstrations, 10 and 11 April 2000;
¨ Return the country to an atmosphere of peace and
respect for all persons, and to immediately end the
destruction of public and private property;
¨ Mandate that all security forces abide by the United
Nations Basic Principles on the Use of Force and
Firearms by Law Enforcement Officials, which states
that "the intentional lethal use of firearms may only
be made when strictly unavoidable in order to protect
life";
¨ Initiate a full and impartial investigation into the
pattern of security force violence and urge that all
governmental personnel responsible for human rights
violations be immediately brought to justice;
¨ Insist on an immediate full, independent and
impartial investigation regarding the torture and
murder of Ebrima Barry by Brikama Fire Service
personnel, the rape of 13 year old Binta Manneh by a
police officer, and the "line of duty" death of Omar
Barrow, journalist and Red Cross volunteer during the
student massacre;
¨ Restoration of basic rights of free speech and
assembly and immediately terminate all arbitrary
arrests, suspicious detentions and indiscriminate and
unlawful assaults;
¨ Insure that all personnel found to be responsible in
the above-cited cases are charged and brought to
justice without further delay;
¨ Immediate public access to accurate and verifiable
information on the number of deaths and those
individuals who are presently detained or missing;
¨ Immediate release of all persons that have been
arrested or detained following this incident;
¨ Immediate release of all bodies to families for
burial; and
¨ Immediate cessation of Government mass burials.
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Return to: MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY
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THE GAMBIA, 1920 Walton Avenue - Suite 5B,
Bronx, New York 10453
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:07:01 -0700
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Following is the Fact Sheet developed by The Movement
For The Restoration Of Democracy In The Gambia which
we are using as we prepare for the New York
Demonstration before the Gambian Mission and the
United Nations on May 2, 2000. We welcome all fellow
Gambia-L's to utilize this Fact Sheet in our concerted
campaign to stop the atrocities taking place in The
Gambia. This document (word document) has also been
attached to this e-mail for those members wishing to
download and print out for easy distribution.
______________________________________________________
FACT SHEET FACT SHEET
MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION
OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA
1920 Walton Avenue, Suite 5B
Bronx, New York 10453
Tel/Fax: (718) 842-6162
THE MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION FOR DEMOCRACY IN THE
GAMBIA sorrowfully announces the murder of Gambian
Students by The Gambian Army and Paramilitary on 10
and 11 April 2000 in violation of International Human
Rights and Constitutional Rights. Gambian students
have an inalienable and entrenched right under the
1997 Constitution, Section 25(d) to "freedom to
assemble and demonstrate peaceably and without arms."
These rights are echoed and guaranteed under the
African Charter and under the United Nations'
International Convention on Civil and Political
Rights.
¨ The student demonstration was organized by the
Gambian Students Union (GAMSU) in Banjul, Brikama and
other towns to protest the torture and death of
19-year-old student, Ebrima Barry on 9 March by
Brikama Fire Service personnel, and the rape of
13-year-old Binta Manneh by a police officer, on 10
March 2000.
¨ GAMSU requested a permit for the intended peaceful
demonstration, which was denied, yet the Department of
State for the Interior issued a press release
"threatening any student who dared to disturb the
peace."
¨ When students assembled in front of the Gambian
Technical Training Institute on April 10th to march to
the city center, Paramilitary Units menacingly ordered
the students to disperse, then proceeded to chase,
kick and stomp on the heads of falling students and
then finally shooting indiscriminately into the crowd.
¨ President Yahya Jammeh administration's directive to
utilize live ammunition to quell the student
demonstration resulted in the slaughter of a minimum
of 14 people (reports indicate that as many as 50
persons have been murdered). Omar Barrow, a
journalist at SUD FM Radio, Banjul, was murdered by
paramilitary personnel while serving as a readily
identifiable Red Cross volunteer assisting the wounded
and dying.
¨ A minimum of 128 students and other persons have
been injured, many requiring hospitalization. Due to
poor medical facilities, many of the injured require
life saving medical treatment outside of the country.
Royal Victoria Hospital has indicated that there is a
shortage of blood and that the situation is
disastrous. Among the wounded is a 3-year old child
lying in the hospital with a bullet in his head.
Doctors in the Gambia do not have the necessary
facilities to perform the required life saving
operation for him.
¨ Numerous students are missing, including Alhaji
Darbo, Vice President of GAMSU and Alieu Khan,
President of the College Students Sub-Union. Hundreds
of students continue to be rounded up for questioning,
arrested and detained at undisclosed locations
throughout The Gambia. Distraught parents do not know
whether their children are among the dead or detained.
¨ Reports have been received that the government is
refusing to turn over the bodies of murdered students
to their families. In addition, the government has
not made available to the public, identification of
all individuals presently being detained, nor account
for missing persons.
THE MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION FOR DEMOCRACY IN THE
GAMBIA consisting of Gambians, Africans (Continental
and Diaspora), and Concerned Friends of The Gambia
request your support in petitioning for an immediate
investigation into the atrocities and human rights
violations that continue to plague The Gambia.
__________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:14:45 -0700
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Subject: MRDG-NY May 2nd Demonstration Flyer for Distribution
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Following is the Flyer developed by The Movement
For The Restoration Of Democracy In The Gambia which
we are distributing in preparation for the New York
Demonstration before the Gambian Mission and the
United Nations on May 2, 2000. We request that all
fellow Gambia-L's distribute this Flyer as we prepare
for our concerted campaign to stop the atrocities
taking place in The Gambia. This document (word
document) has also been attached to this e-mail for
those members wishing to download and print out for
easy distribution.
______________________________________________________
MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION
OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA
MOBILIZATION TO PROTEST
¨ THE GAMBIAN ARMY AND PARAMILITARY'S ATTACK ON
DEMONSTRATING STUDENTS, APRIL 10 & 11, 2000 RESULTING
IN NUMEROUS DEATHS AND INJURIES OF STUDENTS AND
CIVILIANS
¨ THE DENIAL OF THE BASIC CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF FREE
SPEECH AND ASSEMBLY
¨ THE GAMBIAN GOVERNMENT'S RELUCTANCE TO RELEASE
INFORMATION ABOUT MISSING OR DETAINED STUDENTS AND
OTHER POLITICAL PRISONERS
¨ THE GAMBIAN GOVERNMENT'S VIOLATIONS OF FUNDAMENTAL
HUMAN AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE GAMBIA
~~~~~~~~~~
TUESDAY, MAY 2nd
MOBILIZATION BEGINS: 10:00 A.M.
In Front Of
THE GAMBIAN MISSION
800 Second Avenue (44th Street)
New York, New York
DEMONSTRATION RALLY: 12:30 P.M.
March To The
UNITED NATIONS
43rd and First Avenue
New York, New York
~~~~~~~~~~
COME OUT. . . SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS TO RESTORE TRUE
DEMOCRACY AND PEACE TO THE GAMBIA !!
INFORMATION: (718) 842-6162
(718) 863-2949
__________________________________________________
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Howdy,
> more tolerant.Banding Drammeh, president of the Supreme Islamic Council, was
> among the delegation..
which Banding Drammeh would this be? Please spare me some more
agony. How could the people be so naive? If Jammeh succeeds this time
around at what ever the ploy may be, then it is fair to say that what ever
pain we get in return some months or even years down the road is self
inflicting.
Dawda
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SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
Soldiers of the Gambia Army it is indeed a reassuring
feeling to learn that there are some of you who have
totally regretted the killing of the innocent children
you were forced to shoot by Yaya. And most of you have
also realized that the despot is making all efforts to
shift the blame on you. Anyway after clearing his
image, he would then as usual send few bulls with a
couple of thousand Dalasis to each of your camps for f
you to feast on and praise him as the good leader. You
will understand what I am exactly telling you. Anyway
just remember that your hands have been soiled by
children’s blood.
It is however understandable that you were
inadequately equipped, under prepared, misled and
misinformed that sad day. In the first place you all
know how Yaya has been systematically undermining the
efficiency of the GNA through a deliberate conspiracy
of robbing you of the right equipment, the right
talents and the proper training. And those elite
vampires, freeloaders, and patronage junkies lying all
over to protect their perks and benefits have only
made things look uglier. The bottom line up front was
that you were sent out that day to control a riot
situation which none of you were ever trained or
prepared to handle in your military careers. In the
first place Ak47 assault rifles should not have been
issued for that civil disturbance operation at all,
let alone arming the security forces with them. On the
other hand I can understand why they were issued,
because there are nothing in your armories to equip
yourselves with for the assignment. That was the first
step to the disaster that later unfolded in the
operation.
Lets be frank to each other, the GNA does not in
anyway understand the proper method of
riot-controlling, neither does it have the means to do
so. If we are to reflect back to the only consignment
of good riot –controlling gears that the GNA ever had,
I could remember in 1998, there were only about 200
gas masks donated by Libya. But like the ten T-54
tanks and the ninety-two 35mm artillery pieces from
Egypt, the APCS, plus all your other good equipment
meant to improve your competence technically and
tactically, Yaya simply took all of them from the
camps and hid them at the State House. The typical
Mobutu Style of securing himself at the expense of his
nation. As ignorant as Yaya is about the dynamics of
heavy weapons however, he does not know that after
keeping those arsenals without firing or properly
aligning them for even six months they permanently
lose their technical configurations, hence rendering
them useless. I may as well advise him to find a
junkyard and dump those tanks and artillery pieces
that have never worked and would never do again.
However the issue here is about you the soldiers.
Yaya is indirectly pointing his fingers to you as the
child killers when he was the very one who manipulated
you into the operations. And unfortunately, your
leaders who should have guided you on the operational
principles of using minimum force under such
circumstances lacked the proper education to do so. It
is no secret that some of you, the ordinary soldiers
are far better educated than your Chief of Staff
Baboucarr Jatta and Yaya Jammeh himself. Nonetheless,
they were the leaders you had depended on to guide you
and of course protect your actions if they turned
unfavorable as in this regrettable case. But look at
them now. Yaya in particular who gave the orders by
referring to the school children as “the bastards who
should be dealt with without mercy”, is now giving the
impression to the world that if he had been in the
country that day he would have prevented you, the
murderers, from killing the kids. Certainly, out here,
most of us very well understand that Yaya led you into
this unprecedented act, quite unbecoming of good
soldiers with the right leadership. For Yaya to
disassociate himself from this massacre should be
termed the betrayal of the millennium. In a war
situation, leaders like him and Baboucarr Jatta are
given hasty court martial hearings and shot like all
traitors deserved.
But by our judgement here, we have already found him
guilty of two capital crimes. (1) He has ordered the
murder of our finest sons and daughters who could have
been our leaders tomorrow; plus (2) he has betrayed
the security forces that acted exclusively on his
orders in the slaughter.
As a result, I urged you to act. This is the time to
get rid of Yaya Jammeh by all the means you can apply.
Of course, some of you have already registered your
commitment to do it, which if successfully done, would
be the most progressive and noble thing you would have
done for the peace-loving Gambian people. Gambia does
not deserve a person like Yaya. He has lied in your
names, killed in your names, cheated and stole in your
names, humiliated you and then in this latest
incident, ordered the killing of our children,
brothers and sisters. Yet it is apparent that
dictators like him would foolishly refuse to accede to
popular demand for them to step down and give chance
to genuine democracy to the point of their own perils
and to the extent of even destroying the whole
country. Anyway before this retarded imbecile destroys
the nation you the soldiers must take the initiative.
The removal of Yaya from that seat would be the
greatest service you could do for The Gambian people
and mankind in general. Yaya’s killing instinct is a
mental attitude. And The Gambia is a small family,
peopled by decent men and women who for generations
would not kill each other for any reason whatsoever.
The more time you give to this evil character the
greater risk the Gambian people stand to suffer in the
future.
Remember how it was done in 1994? If the senior ones
are too timid to do it, let the junior officers do it.
But you must conduct the operation with the genuine
intention of calling the civilians to take over the
political platform in the shortest possible time.
Between us, we all know that Yaya is not a real
soldier. He only pretends to be one when in actual
fact he is the worst person in uniform who has ever
existed in your midst. How many of you have honestly
ever seen the fool firing a weapon, leading a tactical
operation, conducting a land navigation exercise or
going through a BFT? The guy is false in that uniform
but has been hiding behind it with the worst abuses
imaginable. So GNA soldiers must realize that the day
of reckoning is quite close now, when Yaya and his
cohorts would pay the price of their evil deeds.
You must not allow the outside forces under
mobilization now to come and do it for you. History
would not forgive you for that in anyway. And most
important of all, there are far too many outstanding
intellectuals waiting to come and work for the Gambia
after the removal of Yaya the moron. Some of the best
and finest Gambian brains within or outside the
country cannot be utilized because they are humans
governed by conscience and integrity. Their positive
characters and codes of conduct made them true persons
who would rather die than succumb to the terrorist
rule of a semi-educated tyrant. Helping the Gambian
people lose Yaya therefore is a historical obligation
you must fulfil. That would not only mean rescuing our
nation at the brink of an imminent disaster but should
also be the only acceptable gesture the GNA could make
to restore its former prestigious image. It would be
popular, blessed, respected and cherished throughout
the world from Africa to Europe to Asia and the
Americas. Without that, be rest assured that the
members of the GNA should continue counting themselves
as passengers in Yaya's aircraft to hell where he
would be landing for killing our children.
May god bless you all.
Ebou Colly
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The New York group is compiling a list of speakers [Gambians and
non-Gambians], to address the Day of Outrage Rally/Demonstration, organized
in response to the recent callous massacre of STUDENTS and JOURNALIST/RED
CROSS VOLUNTEER in Gambia. We welcome speakers of various languages or
dialects, as interpreters, if needed, will be available to inform the whole
world about the inhuman rule of law and governance bestowed on Gambians and
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The ideas contained in this petition are excellent. However, this document
needs editing, if the contents are to be well understood.
Congratulations.
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We don't need to sit around and wait for Yaya to step down. The idiot is
unreasonable, and the only way to get him out is to force him out. He is by
no means going to step down. What an insult for him to think he can show up
at a hospital, hand out a few provisions and make all the pain disappear.
From what Mr Jatta and the other former army guy( sorry I forgot your name, I
still respect you though for speaking out) said, about a lot of the millitary
guys not liking what Yaya is doing. It is possible to get the fool out of
there by force after all. If he is not taken down, this could happen all over
again. If he is not man enough to take responsiblity for his govt, I don't
see how he can come up with ways to assure Gambians/nonGambians that
something like this is not going to happen again.
As I was telling Sigga today, any one of us could have been in the same
situations these students were in. I for one would have been in the middle
of the demonstrations, and would end up in jail, at the hospital or even
dead. That scares the daylights out of me. Gambia is a small country and
such brutality should not be tolerated. Get the idiot out , so we could
start rebuilding our beloved country. I hope next time he shows up with his
provisions, someone tells him right where to put them.
si jama
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If Yaya dares say the Vice President and Interior Secretary should resign
their positions then why the hell is he sitting in State House with all the
allegations leveled against him. How about the embezzlements of public funds
and the vicious killings in the past years. Guys, does this man have it
upstairs?
No, we must stop talking and act and act NOW
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Gai-Baldeh,
We welcome your suggestions for clarity.
Jamila
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> understood.
> Congratulations.
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>
> Mohammed
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Dear Sir,
Thank you for your call. Your call to liberate
ourselves and our beautiful country is a genuine one
which will be answered pretty soon. A majority of us
are absolutely ready to take the risk and put our
lives on the line for peace and tranquility to come
back. I could not imagine that this stupid president
of Kaninlai, as we in the army now refers to him
because he is now afraid to settle at State House, is
the one dictating what happens in the country. He
should be crucified and his remains nailed on the
fence in Mccarthy Square for the general public to
see. Now every officer in the Paramilitary Police have
regretted their action. Some of my friends keep crying
and asking Almighty Allah for repent; as you have
alluded and clearly stated in your resurrective
message to us all in the GNA, the only genuine
repentive process must be to crucify the Kaninlai
Mansa.
In conclusion, sir, we would like your leadership in
this to get rid of this stupid Mansa of Kaninlai; I
can assure you and each and every noble Gambian that
we will act sooner than later. Time will tell. Right
now he is only embarking on the protection of Capt
Jammeh and his Sate guards, but we are ready to
proceed.
Landing Jatta.
--- ebou colly <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
>
>
> Soldiers of the Gambia Army it is indeed a
> reassuring
> feeling to learn that there are some of you who have
> totally regretted the killing of the innocent
> children
> you were forced to shoot by Yaya. And most of you
> have
> also realized that the despot is making all efforts
> to
> shift the blame on you. Anyway after clearing his
> image, he would then as usual send few bulls with a
> couple of thousand Dalasis to each of your camps for
> f
> you to feast on and praise him as the good leader.
> You
> will understand what I am exactly telling you.
> Anyway
> just remember that your hands have been soiled by
> children’s blood.
>
> It is however understandable that you were
> inadequately equipped, under prepared, misled and
> misinformed that sad day. In the first place you all
> know how Yaya has been systematically undermining
> the
> efficiency of the GNA through a deliberate
> conspiracy
> of robbing you of the right equipment, the right
> talents and the proper training. And those elite
> vampires, freeloaders, and patronage junkies lying
> all
> over to protect their perks and benefits have only
> made things look uglier. The bottom line up front
> was
> that you were sent out that day to control a riot
> situation which none of you were ever trained or
> prepared to handle in your military careers. In the
> first place Ak47 assault rifles should not have been
> issued for that civil disturbance operation at all,
> let alone arming the security forces with them. On
> the
> other hand I can understand why they were issued,
> because there are nothing in your armories to equip
> yourselves with for the assignment. That was the
> first
> step to the disaster that later unfolded in the
> operation.
>
> Lets be frank to each other, the GNA does not in
> anyway understand the proper method of
> riot-controlling, neither does it have the means to
> do
> so. If we are to reflect back to the only
> consignment
> of good riot –controlling gears that the GNA ever
> had,
> I could remember in 1998, there were only about 200
> gas masks donated by Libya. But like the ten T-54
> tanks and the ninety-two 35mm artillery pieces from
> Egypt, the APCS, plus all your other good equipment
> meant to improve your competence technically and
> tactically, Yaya simply took all of them from the
> camps and hid them at the State House. The typical
> Mobutu Style of securing himself at the expense of
> his
> nation. As ignorant as Yaya is about the dynamics of
> heavy weapons however, he does not know that after
> keeping those arsenals without firing or properly
> aligning them for even six months they permanently
> lose their technical configurations, hence rendering
> them useless. I may as well advise him to find a
> junkyard and dump those tanks and artillery pieces
> that have never worked and would never do again.
>
> However the issue here is about you the soldiers.
> Yaya is indirectly pointing his fingers to you as
> the
> child killers when he was the very one who
> manipulated
> you into the operations. And unfortunately, your
> leaders who should have guided you on the
> operational
> principles of using minimum force under such
> circumstances lacked the proper education to do so.
> It
> is no secret that some of you, the ordinary soldiers
> are far better educated than your Chief of Staff
> Baboucarr Jatta and Yaya Jammeh himself.
> Nonetheless,
> they were the leaders you had depended on to guide
> you
> and of course protect your actions if they turned
> unfavorable as in this regrettable case. But look at
> them now. Yaya in particular who gave the orders by
> referring to the school children as “the bastards
> who
> should be dealt with without mercy”, is now giving
> the
> impression to the world that if he had been in the
> country that day he would have prevented you, the
> murderers, from killing the kids. Certainly, out
> here,
> most of us very well understand that Yaya led you
> into
> this unprecedented act, quite unbecoming of good
> soldiers with the right leadership. For Yaya to
> disassociate himself from this massacre should be
> termed the betrayal of the millennium. In a war
> situation, leaders like him and Baboucarr Jatta are
> given hasty court martial hearings and shot like all
> traitors deserved.
>
> But by our judgement here, we have already found him
> guilty of two capital crimes. (1) He has ordered the
> murder of our finest sons and daughters who could
> have
> been our leaders tomorrow; plus (2) he has betrayed
> the security forces that acted exclusively on his
> orders in the slaughter.
>
> As a result, I urged you to act. This is the time
> to
> get rid of Yaya Jammeh by all the means you can
> apply.
> Of course, some of you have already registered your
> commitment to do it, which if successfully done,
> would
> be the most progressive and noble thing you would
> have
> done for the peace-loving Gambian people. Gambia
> does
> not deserve a person like Yaya. He has lied in your
> names, killed in your names, cheated and stole in
> your
> names, humiliated you and then in this latest
> incident, ordered the killing of our children,
> brothers and sisters. Yet it is apparent that
> dictators like him would foolishly refuse to accede
> to
> popular demand for them to step down and give chance
> to genuine democracy to the point of their own
> perils
> and to the extent of even destroying the whole
> country. Anyway before this retarded imbecile
> destroys
> the nation you the soldiers must take the
> initiative.
> The removal of Yaya from that seat would be the
> greatest service you could do for The Gambian people
> and mankind in general. Yaya’s killing instinct is a
> mental attitude. And The Gambia is a small family,
> peopled by decent men and women who for generations
> would not kill each other for any reason whatsoever.
> The more time you give to this evil character the
> greater risk the Gambian people stand to suffer in
> the
> future.
>
> Remember how it was done in 1994? If the senior
> ones
> are too timid to do it, let the junior officers do
> it.
> But you must conduct the operation with the genuine
> intention of calling the civilians to take over the
> political platform in the shortest possible time.
> Between us, we all know that Yaya is not a real
> soldier. He only pretends to be one when in actual
> fact he is the worst person in uniform who has ever
> existed in your midst. How many of you have honestly
> ever seen the fool firing a weapon, leading a
> tactical
> operation, conducting a land navigation exercise or
> going through a BFT? The guy is false in that
> uniform
> but has been hiding behind it with the worst abuses
> imaginable. So GNA soldiers must realize that the
> day
> of reckoning is quite close now, when Yaya and his
> cohorts would pay the price of their evil deeds.
>
> You must not allow the outside forces under
> mobilization now to come and do it for you. History
> would not forgive you for that in anyway. And most
> important of all, there are far too many outstanding
> intellectuals waiting to come and work for the
> Gambia
> after the removal of Yaya the moron. Some of the
> best
> and finest Gambian brains within or outside the
> country cannot be utilized because they are humans
> governed by conscience and integrity. Their positive
> characters and codes of conduct made them true
> persons
> who would rather die than succumb to the terrorist
> rule of a semi-educated tyrant. Helping the Gambian
> people lose Yaya therefore is a historical
> obligation
> you must fulfil. That would not only mean rescuing
> our
>
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Folks,
In the same vein, I am also back after a brief hiatus. I am sure I have
missed so many brilliant postings on the L as a result. However, now that I
am back I shall dig into the Gambia-L archives and browse over some of them.
Let me also use this opportunity to welcome Mr. Buharry and wife's baby girl
into this world. I wish her and the wonderful family all the good things in
life.
Good night.
OB.
obsilla
Ps: Ebrima (Coach), I sent you numerous e-mails during the course of last
week but all of them bounced back to me. What is wrong with your famous
hotmail account again? Let me know. OB.
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> congratulations! Buharry& Gass,
> May the Almighty give her long life and and all that you wish for her.
> Yahya.
>
> >From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <[log in to unmask]>
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> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: I'm with you all
> >Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:59:02 +0200
> >
> >Hi!
> > I have not been able to participate these past days because I was in
> >the hospital with my wife who gave birth to a baby girl. I came back home
> >yesterday to find tons of mail. I however hope that the things put in
> >motion with regard to the killing of the students will not evaporate. I
> >have received requests that I have not been able to deal with but I'll do
> >so as soon as time permits. In the meantime, I just want to let you all
> >know that I am still with you. Thanks.
> >
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Rumours have began to circulate in the Army Camp that
the Mansa of Kaninlai is ready to sacrifice his poor
and innocent Vice President Isatou Njai Saidy. And
Yaya was the very one who ordered the shooting whiles
he was in Cuba. He is some how uncomfortable to fire
our so-called commander Chief of Staff, Babucarr
Jatta. The only reason for that is because Jatta is
the only fool who always execute the moron's stupid
orders; and he is now scared to appoint an intelligent
and an independent minded person to lead; he knows
ofcourse that his days would be numbered.
But sacrificing Isatou Njai Saidy will be the wrong
thing to do. The Kaninlai Mansa himself must be
brought to justice and pay a heavy price for his evil
deeds. But his days are numbered.
Landing Jatta.
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Hi folks,
Despite the fact that I REALLY should be going to bed, I decided to send in
a comment or two about this e-mail I'm replying to, and also others that
preceeded it.
First, I'm alarmed by the following, and previous e-mail messages from
Landing Jatta, as well as Mr. Ebou Colly. While I whole-heartedly endorse
their calls for President Jammeh to go, I am firmly opposed to the idea that
once again, we have to force to efffect change in our country. We should
have known that almost all benefits that came our way by virtue of Jammeh
overthrowing Jawara (not by force, but by the threat of it) would be wiped
away by the constant possibility that many other soldiers would take their
cueue from him, and do like him, whenever they got dissatisfied. It seems
that postings from these two are tell-tale signs of rumblings that cannot be
encouraged.
Without a doubt, the military and their sister agencies can have a role in
ending the Jammeh government. However, the best service they can render our
country would not be to cause more bloodshed (no matter whose blood) but to
make sure that President Jammeh would NEVER be able to use them to terrorize
our citizenry, and even kill them. I think if we ever get to the stage
where Jammeh knows that he cannot count on his troops to execute his
inhumane orders (whether they are issue directly or indirectly) we then
would be at the dawn of a new era in The Gambia.
Given the above, I think efforts at involving Gambian security forces in
working toward the end of the Jammeh government should be along more
creative and less traditional lines. First, they have families, and as such
we can work toward reaching out to the general population to constantly work
on convincing their relatives in the Army and Security forces that they
should never again be used by Jammeh to kill people, improperly imprison
them, or harass them. Such a campaign can be one-on-one, private (between
relatives), and certainly beyond the reach of Jammeh and his people.
Second, I am very interested in the idea of making the security forces
realize that their long-term interests cannot be met by Jammeh. For
example, when a global lobbying campaign against Jammeh is launched, it
should also include a component that targets the perks and previlidges of
the security forces. This way, they will be made to realize that they
cannot enjoy the good life (at least not for long) as long as they deny
other Gambians their basic rights. Efforts to make Gambian security forces
feel the pinch include denying them scholarships for training programs,
working to cut-off their equipment supplies, and excluding them for
participation in cooperation programs that would have offered them
opportunities to get their per diems.
Furthermore, these tactics must also be combined with carrots that will be
dangled before the security forces, and have it made clear to them that they
will be able to take on bit on the carrots if and only if they stop letting
President Jammeh use them to oppress Gambians. Such carrots would be the
exact reverse of the penalties they suffer; namely offer them scholarships
and advanced training, participation in international programs, etc. It is
my firm belief that such a carrot and stick approach to the Gambian security
forces, done in concert with a propaganda campaign aimed not directly at
them, but at the relatives and loved ones of these soldiers, will gradually
erode President Jammeh's base, and might well result in a peaceful transfer
of power. Afterall, those shots will be fired only if they soldiers let
them off.
Let me wrap this up with short references to a number of issues raised by
others in previous postings:
1. Saiks Samateh mentioned the importance of making sure that efforts at
building our Web site, and indeed working on an umbrella organization should
not be concentrated in the US. This is a valid point, and one that's being
taken into serious consideration. If Saiks wrote his e-mail in response to
my mention of people I've contacted about building the site, I would like to
re-assure him that those people (few as they are) were contacted because of
work they'd already done (e.g. George Sarr), because he donated a domain
name and Web site (Dr. Amadou Janneh), etc. Rest assured that we will be
expanding not only the scope of the site, but also opportunities for people
to have a say in what's on it.
2. I'm still planning to contact different groups, and people in various
parts of the world about both the Web site, and also developing the position
paper we will be presenting Sen. Feingold. May I also mention that I also
received the article on Africa Debt Cancellation forwarded by Ylva Hernlund,
and I've already followed some of the Web resources the article mentions. I
think the various organizations metioned will be invaluable allies in
building a case for recovering monies alledged to have been embezzled by
President Jammeh (or at least ascertaining whether or not the accusations
are indeed true).
That's about it. I'll probably think of other issues when I'm less sleepy.
For now, I'd like to wish you all the best, and good night (or morning, or
day, or evening ...)
Katim
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From: Landing Jatta <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
> Dear Sir,
>
> Thank you for your call. Your call to liberate
> ourselves and our beautiful country is a genuine one
> which will be answered pretty soon. A majority of us
> are absolutely ready to take the risk and put our
> lives on the line for peace and tranquility to come
> back. I could not imagine that this stupid president
> of Kaninlai, as we in the army now refers to him
> because he is now afraid to settle at State House, is
> the one dictating what happens in the country. He
> should be crucified and his remains nailed on the
> fence in Mccarthy Square for the general public to
> see. Now every officer in the Paramilitary Police have
> regretted their action. Some of my friends keep crying
> and asking Almighty Allah for repent; as you have
> alluded and clearly stated in your resurrective
> message to us all in the GNA, the only genuine
> repentive process must be to crucify the Kaninlai
> Mansa.
>
> In conclusion, sir, we would like your leadership in
> this to get rid of this stupid Mansa of Kaninlai; I
> can assure you and each and every noble Gambian that
> we will act sooner than later. Time will tell. Right
> now he is only embarking on the protection of Capt
> Jammeh and his Sate guards, but we are ready to
> proceed.
>
> Landing Jatta.
>
> --- ebou colly <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
> >
> >
> > Soldiers of the Gambia Army it is indeed a
> > reassuring
> > feeling to learn that there are some of you who have
> > totally regretted the killing of the innocent
> > children
> > you were forced to shoot by Yaya. And most of you
> > have
> > also realized that the despot is making all efforts
> > to
> > shift the blame on you. Anyway after clearing his
> > image, he would then as usual send few bulls with a
> > couple of thousand Dalasis to each of your camps for
> > f
> > you to feast on and praise him as the good leader.
> > You
> > will understand what I am exactly telling you.
> > Anyway
> > just remember that your hands have been soiled by
> > children's blood.
> >
> > It is however understandable that you were
> > inadequately equipped, under prepared, misled and
> > misinformed that sad day. In the first place you all
> > know how Yaya has been systematically undermining
> > the
> > efficiency of the GNA through a deliberate
> > conspiracy
> > of robbing you of the right equipment, the right
> > talents and the proper training. And those elite
> > vampires, freeloaders, and patronage junkies lying
> > all
> > over to protect their perks and benefits have only
> > made things look uglier. The bottom line up front
> > was
> > that you were sent out that day to control a riot
> > situation which none of you were ever trained or
> > prepared to handle in your military careers. In the
> > first place Ak47 assault rifles should not have been
> > issued for that civil disturbance operation at all,
> > let alone arming the security forces with them. On
> > the
> > other hand I can understand why they were issued,
> > because there are nothing in your armories to equip
> > yourselves with for the assignment. That was the
> > first
> > step to the disaster that later unfolded in the
> > operation.
> >
> > Lets be frank to each other, the GNA does not in
> > anyway understand the proper method of
> > riot-controlling, neither does it have the means to
> > do
> > so. If we are to reflect back to the only
> > consignment
> > of good riot -controlling gears that the GNA ever
> > had,
> > I could remember in 1998, there were only about 200
> > gas masks donated by Libya. But like the ten T-54
> > tanks and the ninety-two 35mm artillery pieces from
> > Egypt, the APCS, plus all your other good equipment
> > meant to improve your competence technically and
> > tactically, Yaya simply took all of them from the
> > camps and hid them at the State House. The typical
> > Mobutu Style of securing himself at the expense of
> > his
> > nation. As ignorant as Yaya is about the dynamics of
> > heavy weapons however, he does not know that after
> > keeping those arsenals without firing or properly
> > aligning them for even six months they permanently
> > lose their technical configurations, hence rendering
> > them useless. I may as well advise him to find a
> > junkyard and dump those tanks and artillery pieces
> > that have never worked and would never do again.
> >
> > However the issue here is about you the soldiers.
> > Yaya is indirectly pointing his fingers to you as
> > the
> > child killers when he was the very one who
> > manipulated
> > you into the operations. And unfortunately, your
> > leaders who should have guided you on the
> > operational
> > principles of using minimum force under such
> > circumstances lacked the proper education to do so.
> > It
> > is no secret that some of you, the ordinary soldiers
> > are far better educated than your Chief of Staff
> > Baboucarr Jatta and Yaya Jammeh himself.
> > Nonetheless,
> > they were the leaders you had depended on to guide
> > you
> > and of course protect your actions if they turned
> > unfavorable as in this regrettable case. But look at
> > them now. Yaya in particular who gave the orders by
> > referring to the school children as "the bastards
> > who
> > should be dealt with without mercy", is now giving
> > the
> > impression to the world that if he had been in the
> > country that day he would have prevented you, the
> > murderers, from killing the kids. Certainly, out
> > here,
> > most of us very well understand that Yaya led you
> > into
> > this unprecedented act, quite unbecoming of good
> > soldiers with the right leadership. For Yaya to
> > disassociate himself from this massacre should be
> > termed the betrayal of the millennium. In a war
> > situation, leaders like him and Baboucarr Jatta are
> > given hasty court martial hearings and shot like all
> > traitors deserved.
> >
> > But by our judgement here, we have already found him
> > guilty of two capital crimes. (1) He has ordered the
> > murder of our finest sons and daughters who could
> > have
> > been our leaders tomorrow; plus (2) he has betrayed
> > the security forces that acted exclusively on his
> > orders in the slaughter.
> >
> > As a result, I urged you to act. This is the time
> > to
> > get rid of Yaya Jammeh by all the means you can
> > apply.
> > Of course, some of you have already registered your
> > commitment to do it, which if successfully done,
> > would
> > be the most progressive and noble thing you would
> > have
> > done for the peace-loving Gambian people. Gambia
> > does
> > not deserve a person like Yaya. He has lied in your
> > names, killed in your names, cheated and stole in
> > your
> > names, humiliated you and then in this latest
> > incident, ordered the killing of our children,
> > brothers and sisters. Yet it is apparent that
> > dictators like him would foolishly refuse to accede
> > to
> > popular demand for them to step down and give chance
> > to genuine democracy to the point of their own
> > perils
> > and to the extent of even destroying the whole
> > country. Anyway before this retarded imbecile
> > destroys
> > the nation you the soldiers must take the
> > initiative.
> > The removal of Yaya from that seat would be the
> > greatest service you could do for The Gambian people
> > and mankind in general. Yaya's killing instinct is a
> > mental attitude. And The Gambia is a small family,
> > peopled by decent men and women who for generations
> > would not kill each other for any reason whatsoever.
> > The more time you give to this evil character the
> > greater risk the Gambian people stand to suffer in
> > the
> > future.
> >
> > Remember how it was done in 1994? If the senior
> > ones
> > are too timid to do it, let the junior officers do
> > it.
> > But you must conduct the operation with the genuine
> > intention of calling the civilians to take over the
> > political platform in the shortest possible time.
> > Between us, we all know that Yaya is not a real
> > soldier. He only pretends to be one when in actual
> > fact he is the worst person in uniform who has ever
> > existed in your midst. How many of you have honestly
> > ever seen the fool firing a weapon, leading a
> > tactical
> > operation, conducting a land navigation exercise or
> > going through a BFT? The guy is false in that
> > uniform
> > but has been hiding behind it with the worst abuses
> > imaginable. So GNA soldiers must realize that the
> > day
> > of reckoning is quite close now, when Yaya and his
> > cohorts would pay the price of their evil deeds.
> >
> > You must not allow the outside forces under
> > mobilization now to come and do it for you. History
> > would not forgive you for that in anyway. And most
> > important of all, there are far too many outstanding
> > intellectuals waiting to come and work for the
> > Gambia
> > after the removal of Yaya the moron. Some of the
> > best
> > and finest Gambian brains within or outside the
> > country cannot be utilized because they are humans
> > governed by conscience and integrity. Their positive
> > characters and codes of conduct made them true
> > persons
> > who would rather die than succumb to the terrorist
> > rule of a semi-educated tyrant. Helping the Gambian
> > people lose Yaya therefore is a historical
> > obligation
> > you must fulfil. That would not only mean rescuing
> > our
> >
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Hi Folks,
I am writing to inform (welcome) you all about (to) the new "Gambia
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The site was previously under the maintenance of Ousman Gajigo of Wabash
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former a few weeks ago.
Please let me know of any information you deem inaccurate.
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On 24 Apr 00, at 23:50, Madiba Saidy wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am writing to inform (welcome) you all about (to) the new "Gambia
> Resource Page" web site. The URL is:
>
> http://leed.chem.ubc.ca/saidy/gambia/home.html
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> The site was previously under the maintenance of Ousman Gajigo of Wabash
> College, but, was originally developed by Andy Lyons (a Peace Corps
> volunteer in the Gambia between 1991 and 1995). I "inherited" it from the
> former a few weeks ago.
>
> Please let me know of any information you deem inaccurate.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Madiba.
Hello Dr. Saidy,
Thanks for the information. We will make the necessary changes
to the link so that it points to the new location.
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LETTER TO THE PRINCIPALS AND HEADMASTERS
The Demand for Principles and Professionalism
Gambian society is in a state of flux. Each change comes with its demands
and priorities. Such changes call for fundamental alteration in priorities
and decisions, without which our conduct would be ill-suited for what the
situation demands.
The issues which now confront the educational system transcend what is
customary. It is, therefore, absolutely essential that the situation is
approached with caution and maturity. As administrators of the school
system, it is your duty to take into consideration the diverse and
conflicting opinions which are being transmitted regarding the events of 10
and 11 April 2000 before taking a final posture.
Already attempts are being made by officials of the State to draw you to
accept a given interpretation of what transpired. We have read reports in
the Government press indicating that what happened on 10 and 11 April 2000
is a manifestation of a school system which is breeding vagabonds, bandits
and criminals. There are insinuations that rebels using the guise of
students have utilised the cloak of liberty and human rights in order to
deliver catastrophe upon the society. There is call for the identification
of leaders for disciplinary action; that principals and headmasters should
take the posture of disciplinarians so as to prevent the recurrence of such
actions in the future.
It is unfortunate that such statements would feature at a time when people
in position of public trust should be sensitive to the unique
responsibilities of their office. There is absolutely no doubt that the
statements constitute an oversimplification of the true picture of the
situation that prevailed on 10 and 11 April 2000.
What is required at this juncture is to give weight to all suggestions that
would help to give appropriate consideration to all perspectives so that we
will be able to map out what the circumstances demand.
The diverging views that are being expressed suggest the difficulty in
assigning accurate weights to the different claims that are being made
regarding the cause of the incident of 10 and 11 April 2000. The evidence
that we have been able to gather, though still limited, have shown the
catastrophic pitfalls which may have given rise to the devastation which
occurred on 10 and 11 April 2000. A careful reading of such evidence would
render the charge as baseless that criminal tendencies within the school
system are to blame for the crisis.
It is elementary knowledge that the students were reacting to tendencies to
abuse authority and honour human values with disregard which led to the
killing of Ebrima Barry and the raping of a school girl. In actual fact, the
initial actions of the students were geared towards combating the tendencies
that they are being accused of displaying. What can be more criminal than to
perpetrate murder or rape? What can be more just than to call for action to
apprehend and try the perpetrators?
It is important that in dealing with this sensitive issue that you do not
pass judgment without compelling evidence to back it. The future of the
school system lies in your very hands. You are the pillars of the education
system. The degree of your sense of professionalism and devotion to
principles will determine whether the educational system stands firm in the
face of the present challenge or crumbles.
In many countries today, the school systems are hardly functional because of
crisis. The Gambian school system is not paralysed because of strikes by
teachers for higher wages; or strikes by students for more allowances. The
crisis which engulfs the Gambian school system is due to the desire of
Gambian children for justice to be done and be seen to be done. They are
struggling for a decent society free from arbitrary arrest, torture and
rape.
If those who govern the affairs of this country were sensitive to their
unique responsibilities, they would not have transformed peaceful
demonstrators into outlaws. What happened at GTTI is yet to be told. A
Coroner's Inquest is under the way. A Commission of Enquiry will follow. It
is, therefore, best to leave the facts to come from the people themselves.
We have no doubt that what happened at GTTI is the mother of the devastation
which occurred thereafter.
All of you know that the Gambian school system simply requires leadership to
take the direction that would ensure that the educational institutions serve
their primary purpose of developing the powers of the minds of our children,
accord them with the skills and knowledge necessary to play their part in
the general division of labour in our society as well as impart in them the
standards of behaviour that are reasonably justifiable in a democratic and
independent country.
Many diplomats have never failed to be amazed by the quality of debates in
our school system. Peer group educators are everywhere; young people are
becoming orators. The yearning for information and knowledge is the order of
the day. Gambia is certainly not raising vagabonds and criminals in our
school system. They are raising young people who are no longer mere robots
to be programmed, indoctrinated and tele-guided. They are thinking young
people who have to be convinced, inspired and moved by self-imposed
discipline.
It is important to convey to you that the school system has not suffered a
breakdown. It should not be drawn into the crisis. It is the security
apparatus which has suffered a breakdown. It is this breakdown which is
holding the school system as hostage. Authorities fear that the opening of
schools could lead to the reorganisation of the students. The students have
nothing against their teachers and principals. You must not allow anyone to
drive a wedge between you and your students.
The situation which confronts the regime is not a complex one. What it needs
to do is to simply release all students, hold no trials, allow the Coroner's
Inquest and commission of enquiry to proceed and then act on the
recommendations. The schools will easily return to normalcy if such an
approach is taken.
The most you can do is to hold parent teachers meetings and inform the
parents that the school system will strive top meet their expectations if
they get their cooperation.
What the school system needs are not autocrats taking the guise of
disciplinarians. What are needed are professional school administrators
whose minds have been imparted with noble visions of justice, democracy,
freedom; school administrators who can show concern for the children,
inspire them to have a sense of belonging to the institutions; to have a
sense of ownership of public property; to have love for their country and
people and to rise to a level where they could even turn their backs to
their own personal interests in order to promote the national interest.
There is no doubt that the movement which emerged in defence of Ebrima Barry
and Binta Manneh has that symbolic value. The cause was a moral one. The
response defeated the cause. Herein lies the root of the problem.
As administrators, it is your duty to examine the demands of the situation
and give appropriate response to them. The current trend is for the
President to appease the people by giving a speech without uttering any
condemnation, visiting the hospital and sending delegations to the families
of the deceased while religious leaders, opinion leaders and others are
reported to be uttering condemnations. No person of principles should
acquiesce to such an agenda of shifting blames to the victims.
We have confidence you will not be the type of head teachers and principals
who would establish draconian codes of conduct which could be relied on to
arbitrarily expel and suspend children and deprive them of a future? What
type of future society would you be building by adopting such measures? Can
a society survive on hate and vengeance? Are the signs in the world not
clear enough that what we need is to promote a sense of community; a sense
of concern for each other's problems? What has given rise to small children
taking guns and going to their schools to slaughter their teachers and their
fellow students in the United States?
In The Gambia, it was students coming together to call on the authorities to
investigate the death and raping of their fellow students. Who needs cure -
the students or the system? Who needs indictment - the students or the
system?
It has long been a tradition for those who manage public affairs to assume
ownership of public institutions. In actual fact, public institutions are
properties of the people. The schools are built by the tax money of the
people. All public officers are paid by the people. Headmasters and
principals should, therefore, see themselves as employees of the people.
Governments come and go, but the public service remains. The standards that
should be built should not be ones which are based on the whims and caprices
of a government, but ones that suit the needs and aspirations of the people.
The headmasters and principles should not see the government as sovereign.
They should see the people as sovereign.
What is essential during this critical moment is for the security forces,
the students, the government and the school administrators and teachers to
critically analyse what really happened and how each behaved during such
critical moment.
We hope that you, the administrators of the educational institution, will
engage in such conduct that would prevent the possibility of circumstances
as had prevailed on 10 and 11 April 2000 from recurring in the future. You
have the primary responsibility to ensure that your credibility is not
eroded by being seen to be apologists of the Government.
We greatly hope that your conduct will be exemplary; that you will continue
to engrain in our children a democratic culture; that you will continue to
help them to understand the pitfalls of life; that you will continue to
assist them to discover their potentialities; that you will continue to
engrain in them the virtues of shouldering civic responsibilities; that you
will imbue in them courage and wisdom, the capacity to discern and make
rational judgments, the virtues that are required if they are going to be
the architects of their own destiny.
...........................................
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>the hospital with my wife who gave birth to a baby girl. I came back home
>yesterday to find tons of mail. I however hope that the things put in
>motion with regard to the killing of the students will not evaporate. I
>have received requests that I have not been able to deal with but I'll do
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Reference to the wonderful piece presented here by Momodou Sidibeh
"Understanding the April massacre",I am convinced that the majority of this
forum,must have by now seen the reason behind the problematic political
vicious circle in the Gambia.
All credits due to Mr.Sidebeh for that great scharstic work.You have
comprehensively follwed the historical pattern of the political events in
the Gambia, sensing clearly the aggregiation of facts in variations of the
development of political backwardness,which in essence will facilitate in
understanding future political trends in the Gambia.
Admittedly, it is one of the very many educative and resourceful pieces this
forum has succeeded to provide.I hope, it will be taken seriousely.
Sharing of a common problem orientation is the underlying basis of social
intergration and bond that links individuals in society.To be truthfull,
every honest Gambian, wether prounced or not is directly or the other
affect by this unfortunate tragedy;that our own "programed" brothers were
ordered to kill their own innocent and defenceless brothers! That is why,
this problem should not be handled with cold hands.It is more than that;
this is encouraging hatred and moreover a seriouse long lasting social
tumoil.
Therefore, it is important to take in account of the non-partisan Gambian
organisation,as suggested by Sidibeh which shall adress matters concerning
national intergrity, alligence to citizenery,brotherlyhood, and the rule of
law in the Gambia.This examplifies mechanical solidarity; all probability, a
large part of this forum motivation will be their desire for a compelete
change in the Gambia both politically, economically and socially.The primary
bond to this will be common believes,ideals and moral commitments
individuals and groups are honestly prepared and willing to give. Persons
who share these believes and ideals tend to have a like-mindedness, and that
alone is concidered as power,which is a success.However,there may be
variations in how much changes is needed, how much unaimity exists and
expected; a large erance of diversity in terms of specific
believes,defferences in degree notwithstanding.What is material, is the
common goal, a better Gambia! Unfortunately, must of us are not committed to
our believes, which makes things even more complicated and difficult to
carry out changes.
That is why,it is very important,that there is a national organisation that
makes sure that these ideas and thoughts brought on this forum are
implimented and not just used as biblical!
The incident, that happened in the Gambia,is beyond the comprehension of the
average Gambian.It cannot be tolerated! it is a social tumoil that can
generate long lasting effects on the life of Gambians.These were our own
suppossed "programed" brothers, who betrayed our lovely friendly Gambian
tradition of brotherlyhood by killing innocent, defenceless young bloods,in
a system that is challenging and questioning the collective interlengence
and conciousness of the Gambians.Where are heading to? (ref.read
Uderstanding the April massacre)(Sidebeh).
It is generally recognised that justice is the typical mode for dealing with
most cases of deviance in societies and that the innohement comparative
society as a whole must be realable enough to react to deviance, expressed
through political or law enforcement functionaries of the state.Indeed, it
should therefore not be complicative to understand that the very concept of
the general welfare of society plus the development of repressive laws
designed to prevent deviance from undermining the general welfare of the
state,is one of the fundamental funtions of the government.Well, as it
seems today, unless we call the regime a "political Suicider" we are yet to
see justice prevail.
At this instance, the collective conciousness of the people in a more
limited forum in various specific groups within society, is a positive
trend, which much needed shall adress the question matter concerning the
faith of our country.
The growing political tension should not be allowed to destroy the wonderful
examplary social life Gambia has been recognised of,instead we should find
ourselves more and more interdependent with the members of the society
rather than self sufficient, for, the interdependent of society tend to
provide alternatives to collective conscience as a basis of societal
solidarity.
Therefore, we should perhaps aim, when it become logistically posible to
provide considerable functionaries to carry forward the wish and desire of
the Gambians for a better and progressive Gambia.If we cannot make progress
with truth, am affraid we can even make less with good. We are not
politicians, we manifested exclusively against the Jammeh regime in the
domain of morals and proffessionalism, that is the domain belonging to the
history of the people, and it is precisely, this field that final and
ultimate truths are mostly sparcely sown. If good is confused with evil
there will be an ultimate end to morality,and every one can do as he/she
pleases. That is why when I read Tombong Saidy's report of the student
massacre, I was completely dead! Even, the one by the president himself, was
not an impressive one! that is why we must reject every attempt and forever
immutable dogma whatever as an eternal, ultimate law on the pretext that the
moral world, and our collective intergrity and interlegence will have its
permanent principles which stands against the actions of the security
officers and their collaborators.
May the Almighty give us the strenght to love oneather once again!
Yahya
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Reference to the wonderful piece presented here by Momodou Sidibeh
"Understanding the April massacre",I am convinced that the majority of this
forum,must have by now seen the reason behind the problematic political
vicious circle in the Gambia.
All credits due to Mr.Sidebeh for that great scharstic work.You have
comprehensively follwed the historical pattern of the political events in
the Gambia, sensing clearly the aggregiation of facts in variations of the
development of political backwardness,which in essence will facilitate in
understanding future political trends in the Gambia.
Admittedly, it is one of the very many educative and resourceful pieces this
forum has succeeded to provide.I hope, it will be taken seriousely.
Sharing of a common problem orientation is the underlying basis of social
intergration and bond that links individuals in society.To be truthfull,
every honest Gambian, wether prounced or not is directly or the other
affect by this unfortunate tragedy;that our own "programed" brothers were
ordered to kill their own innocent and defenceless brothers! That is why,
this problem should not be handled with cold hands.It is more than that;
this is encouraging hatred and moreover a seriouse long lasting social
tumoil.
Therefore, it is important to take in account of the non-partisan Gambian
organisation,as suggested by Sidibeh which shall adress matters concerning
national intergrity, alligence to citizenery,brotherlyhood, and the rule of
law in the Gambia.This examplifies mechanical solidarity; all probability, a
large part of this forum motivation will be their desire for a compelete
change in the Gambia both politically, economically and socially.The primary
bond to this will be common believes,ideals and moral commitments
individuals and groups are honestly prepared and willing to give. Persons
who share these believes and ideals tend to have a like-mindedness, and that
alone is concidered as power,which is a success.However,there may be
variations in how much changes is needed, how much unaimity exists and
expected; a large erance of diversity in terms of specific
believes,defferences in degree notwithstanding.What is material, is the
common goal, a better Gambia! Unfortunately, must of us are not committed to
our believes, which makes things even more complicated and difficult to
carry out changes.
That is why,it is very important,that there is a national organisation that
makes sure that these ideas and thoughts brought on this forum are
implimented and not just used as biblical!
The incident, that happened in the Gambia,is beyond the comprehension of the
average Gambian.It cannot be tolerated! it is a social tumoil that can
generate long lasting effects on the life of Gambians.These were our own
suppossed "programed" brothers, who betrayed our lovely friendly Gambian
tradition of brotherlyhood by killing innocent, defenceless young bloods,in
a system that is challenging and questioning the collective interlengence
and conciousness of the Gambians.Where are heading to? (ref.read
Uderstanding the April massacre)(Sidebeh).
It is generally recognised that justice is the typical mode for dealing with
most cases of deviance in societies and that the innohement comparative
society as a whole must be realable enough to react to deviance, expressed
through political or law enforcement functionaries of the state.Indeed, it
should therefore not be complicative to understand that the very concept of
the general welfare of society plus the development of repressive laws
designed to prevent deviance from undermining the general welfare of the
state,is one of the fundamental funtions of the government.Well, as it
seems today, unless we call the regime a "political Suicider" we are yet to
see justice prevail.
At this instance, the collective conciousness of the people in a more
limited forum in various specific groups within society, is a positive
trend, which much needed shall adress the question matter concerning the
faith of our country.
The growing political tension should not be allowed to destroy the wonderful
examplary social life Gambia has been recognised of,instead we should find
ourselves more and more interdependent with the members of the society
rather than self sufficient, for, the interdependent of society tend to
provide alternatives to collective conscience as a basis of societal
solidarity.
Therefore, we should perhaps aim, when it become logistically posible to
provide considerable functionaries to carry forward the wish and desire of
the Gambians for a better and progressive Gambia.If we cannot make progress
with truth, am affraid we can even make less with good. We are not
politicians, we manifested exclusively against the Jammeh regime in the
domain of morals and proffessionalism, that is the domain belonging to the
history of the people, and it is precisely, this field that final and
ultimate truths are mostly sparcely sown. If good is confused with evil
there will be an ultimate end to morality,and every one can do as he/she
pleases. That is why when I read Tombong Saidy's report of the student
massacre, I was completely dead! Even, the one by the president himself, was
not an impressive one! that is why we must reject every attempt and forever
immutable dogma whatever as an eternal, ultimate law on the pretext that the
moral world, and our collective intergrity and interlegence will have its
permanent principles which stands against the actions of the security
officers and their collaborators.
May the Almighty give us the strenght to love oneather once again!
Yahya
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I read the message at the Gambia-L that the United
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came to power. Unfortunately I have deleted that mail
before reading it so carefully. Can you please tell me
something more about that subject. Thanks from Monica
Ceesay.
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The political mentality of the majority Gambian is whom you know not who
is qualify to do the right job.This however, have a great impact on the
life of the people.Fancy this,you put a wrong person at the wrong job,what
do you expect that individual to do rather than barricading him/herself
from obsessiveness of any kind.
As a result, corruption will be given chance to capitalize from those
kinds of weaknesses,because the followers will also want secure their jobs
and became dominated to act according the the boss even if she/he is not
on the right part.This system of governing have been going on since after
we gain our independence and is high time for us "the new Gambians" to try
and remedy those old believes.
Do you people think the headmasters and the
people of the gambia at large will say what they are saying now (after the
incident)if they are sure of securring their job? Do you people think the
AFPR party members will leave Yaya to show them that he can build Kanilai
(his own town)with the tax payers money without their approvals?Do you
think Jawara will stay in power for that long without concern.These among
others we should put into practice and saveguard our selves towards the
implementation.There are lots of gambian intellectual outside the country
and manymore are coming out of the country, WHY? of-course better life and
security.This kind of migration is a shame and severe to the economy of
the country.
A person who don't learn from the mistakes is always a fool.Therefore we
should have to work togwther as Gambians whose objectives are to make
difference,stop childish acts and work to the common goal. If we are
aiming for the better Gambia,I think we need to grow-up and stop egoistic
act for a change to fruitful ones or unbais one to gaining our
objectives.Every country needs intellectual thinker to carter for the
better decision making, but it seems Gambia is lacking all these
priorities due to the political mentalities that is eating the mind of the
people's day to day activities and should be addressed.
LONG LIVE THE GAMBIA AND THE GAMBIANS AND LONG LIVE THE STRUGGLE TO
GAINING NEW AND BETTER GAMBIA.
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EDI LK SIDIBEH NAAKANTIE 2C9
DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS & ADMINISTRATION 48320 KOTKA
KYMENLAAKSO POLYTECHNIQUE
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PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:13:46 PDT
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Halifa,
That note was so clear for any objective thinker to see the reality of
what is happening today. I also believe that we need to think objectively in
order to deal with the political nature of this planet as a whole. Let us
all pray for peace in our struggle to make a difference. I thank you Halifa,
for your contribution in always trying to clarify things to all of us.
Peace & love
Jimo
Hamjatta,
The points you raised in your memorandum of 16 April have been noted. Feel
free to send me personal mails to raise any question for further
clarification. This is a time to share. All views need to be taken on board.
It is, however, necessary to explain certain things to you that may enable
you to understand our position better.
You would agree with me that in order to be the guardians of our own
destiny, we must address the exigencies of the passing moment and the
demands of the emerging future. We have a responsibility to address both
demands. This is precisely the reason why we operate at both levels. We do
take measures to address concerns that are of immediate consideration, and
we do operate at the level of a political party aimed at ensuring the
complete transformation of the society.
The students demonstration was beyond partisan politics and it gave birth to
a coalition of students who are moved and bound by their outrage for the
killing of Ebrima Barry and the raping of Binta Manneh. The delay in the
criminal justice system led them to take action in unison. In that respect,
they put the criminal justice system on trial. Their lack of faith in the
system is what compelled them to call for a demonstration in order to give
sharp focus to the issue so that its negligence will be inconceivable. The
students were, therefore, struggling for standards and values. They were
willing to give their lives for those standards and values. They were
determined to have a voice and be heard. They were determined to be seen.
They were not willing to compromise their position. The authorities who were
dealing with them did not realise how far the students were ready to ensure
that they were not ignored.
What we have been doing is simply to explain this reality.
All Gambians now know that the right to peaceful demonstrate is a democratic
right which should be respected. That failure to recognise such rights can
lead to national upheaval. This national upheaval did take place as the
authorities tried to restrict the demands of the students.
Now, we are confronted with the demands arising from the catastrophe.
Students are arrested and they need to be released. Some are tortured and
they redress. Properties are destroyed and there is need for reconstruction.
People have been demanding for a public enquiry. They want
to know whether live bullets were utilised which led to the death of
students. They want a fair and speedy trial in connection with Ebrima
Barry's case. They want a commission of enquiry to know what actually
happened. These are their demands.
It is left to the government to ignore these demands or address them. It is
not for us to indicate whether we are sure that this time anything would be
different. It is for us to amplify the immediate demands of the people.
Whether the response of the Attorney General is simply meant to be a mere
bait to shift attentions from what is really wrong with the country and that
the investigations would be half-hearted or not, is left to their practice.
What is abundantly clear is that the will of the people has been asserted
and a government ignores that will at its own peril; no government can
ignore the people's concerns with impunity when the people are determined to
matter.
You have mentioned the strategic objective of not only demanding for justice
in dealing with this particular incident, but to ensure a change of
leadership. Of course you know that we also operate an opposition party in
order to address
the demands of the emerging future; that is the demand for total political
change. As far as we are concerned, even if the demands of the passing
moments are addressed, that does not negate the major demands of the people
for economic prosperity and fullest empowerment.
Hence, we are committed to amplifying the demands of the moment and giving
suggestions regarding the means to address them, as well as the total
transformation of the society.
What we have been trying to do is to explain that this is not a law and
order issue, opposition and ruling party; it is a struggle to expand the
democratic space. It is a refusal to live the old way and a demand for a new
way. No government, which is refuses to acknowledge this, can govern this
country in peace. This is the fundamental lesson that should be gathered.
Suffice it to say, it is the duty of the opposition parties to express these
demands of the people clearly and offer them a political alternative. The
party in office also has its prerogative to do whatever it desires to try to
address the concerns of the people.
What is important is for the standards required for addressing the
grievances of the moment to be set and weigh practice against the standards.
I hope our position is clear.
As for the question of a coalition, this is a tactical instrument. Political
parties, whether in Senegal or Gambia, can establish coalitions. That is
also dictated by circumstances. Your suggestion is noted.
Keep in touch.
Greetings.
Halifa Sallah.
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:28:41 EDT
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Since I joined the list, I have read your postings with interest and admired
some of your invaluable contributions. I don't think anyone on the list or
who follows your activities vis-a-vis the Gambian community doubt your
sincerity in wanting to bring about change in The Gambia in a peaceful and
democratic way. I commend your efforts with Senator Feingold. Having said
that, I wish to lodge my disagreement with some of the methods you advance
for getting rid of Yaya. In particular, I take issue with your denunciation
of Colley and Jatta for advocating that Yaya should be removed by all means
necessary. To further your argument, you tried to make a distinction between
the use of force and the treat of force in Yaya's overthrow of Jawara. I
think that was just semantics. The truth of the matter is, Yaya used
unconstitutional means to overthrow a democratically elected government at a
time when Gambians had a better opportunity to get rid of the government
through a free and fair election. Am sure some people will take issue with
my last assertion. So I want to save their time by just stating a few facts
here. At a later date, I can debate anyone who want to convince me that we
couldn't have removed Jawara through elections. Wade's recent elections
victory in Senegal shows that the benefits of incumbency are surmountable by
effective opposition persevering over the years. Secondly, I have seen top
PPP candidates lose elections in The Gambia. Moreover, the PPP candidates
would petition the courts to overturn elections of opposition candidates and
still lose those petitions. That's all I would say here and would challenge
anyone who want to tell me that elections were not free and fair in Gambia
before Yaya. Right after Yaya took over, I was in The Gambia and watched in
amazement as PhDs in The U.S. blinded by their hatred for Jawara jumped on
the Yaya bandwagon and condoned the changes. Don't get me wrong. I don't
like the Jawara regime either and was saddened by the fact that cronies like
Saihou Sabally begged him to return to politics after he decided to retire.
In my humble opinion, this was the beginning of the end of peace and
tranquillity in our beloved country. Going back to the issue at hand, I know
it is unfortunate to have to resort to advocating the use of force in order
to remove Yaya. I share your sentiments here which is why I consistently
opposed the Yaya regime from the first day they took over the country. But
apart from the fact that Yaya has to be taught a lesson, now more than ever,
it is virtually impossible to get rid of Yaya through constitutional means.
Look at Sierra Leone for instance. Giving Mada Biyo a big pension and asylum
in the United States did not do much, if anything for the Sierra Leoneans.
What you had, was another gang taking over the government and demanding to
be given scholarships to go abroad and study. That's the mentality of these
people. They are prepared to do anything if they know they can get away with
it. Laws of nature teaches us that with patience and perseverance,
everything comes to an end. I have no doubt in my mind that Yaya will meet a
brutal end in The Gambia. But believe me ….if he knows that he can kill and
torture people and steal money from the country and retire to Kanilai
without punishment, he will continue the murder spree. People like Colly and
Jatta are needed in order to keep Yaya a little honest. They give him
sleepless nights which our rhetoric and emails and petitions cannot do in a
million years. So I say …..don't condemn Colly and Jatta or people who
espouse their views. And lastly, what Yaya did on July 22, 1994 should be
condemned in no uncertain terns. No academic justification should be sought
for it. Let's call a spade a spade. Taking over the government the way he
did was wrong. The only reason people weren't killed was because the
Americans evacuated Jawara to their military vessel and he agreed to go
without trying to fight back. It was not because Yaya and his gang were
peace lovers or deserve credit for the lack of bloodshed. Again, I hold no
brief for the Jawara regime. But I think people like Colly and Jatta should
not be condemned for advocating the removal of Yaya by all means necessary.
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>Hi folks,
>
>Despite the fact that I REALLY should be going to bed, I decided to send in
>a comment or two about this e-mail I'm replying to, and also others that
>preceeded it.
>
>First, I'm alarmed by the following, and previous e-mail messages from
>Landing Jatta, as well as Mr. Ebou Colly. While I whole-heartedly endorse
>their calls for President Jammeh to go, I am firmly opposed to the idea
>that
>once again, we have to force to efffect change in our country. We should
>have known that almost all benefits that came our way by virtue of Jammeh
>overthrowing Jawara (not by force, but by the threat of it) would be wiped
>away by the constant possibility that many other soldiers would take their
>cueue from him, and do like him, whenever they got dissatisfied. It seems
>that postings from these two are tell-tale signs of rumblings that cannot
>be
>encouraged.
>
>Without a doubt, the military and their sister agencies can have a role in
>ending the Jammeh government. However, the best service they can render
>our
>country would not be to cause more bloodshed (no matter whose blood) but to
>make sure that President Jammeh would NEVER be able to use them to
>terrorize
>our citizenry, and even kill them. I think if we ever get to the stage
>where Jammeh knows that he cannot count on his troops to execute his
>inhumane orders (whether they are issue directly or indirectly) we then
>would be at the dawn of a new era in The Gambia.
>
>Given the above, I think efforts at involving Gambian security forces in
>working toward the end of the Jammeh government should be along more
>creative and less traditional lines. First, they have families, and as
>such
>we can work toward reaching out to the general population to constantly
>work
>on convincing their relatives in the Army and Security forces that they
>should never again be used by Jammeh to kill people, improperly imprison
>them, or harass them. Such a campaign can be one-on-one, private (between
>relatives), and certainly beyond the reach of Jammeh and his people.
>
>Second, I am very interested in the idea of making the security forces
>realize that their long-term interests cannot be met by Jammeh. For
>example, when a global lobbying campaign against Jammeh is launched, it
>should also include a component that targets the perks and previlidges of
>the security forces. This way, they will be made to realize that they
>cannot enjoy the good life (at least not for long) as long as they deny
>other Gambians their basic rights. Efforts to make Gambian security forces
>feel the pinch include denying them scholarships for training programs,
>working to cut-off their equipment supplies, and excluding them for
>participation in cooperation programs that would have offered them
>opportunities to get their per diems.
>
>Furthermore, these tactics must also be combined with carrots that will be
>dangled before the security forces, and have it made clear to them that
>they
>will be able to take on bit on the carrots if and only if they stop letting
>President Jammeh use them to oppress Gambians. Such carrots would be the
>exact reverse of the penalties they suffer; namely offer them scholarships
>and advanced training, participation in international programs, etc. It is
>my firm belief that such a carrot and stick approach to the Gambian
>security
>forces, done in concert with a propaganda campaign aimed not directly at
>them, but at the relatives and loved ones of these soldiers, will gradually
>erode President Jammeh's base, and might well result in a peaceful transfer
>of power. Afterall, those shots will be fired only if they soldiers let
>them off.
>
>Let me wrap this up with short references to a number of issues raised by
>others in previous postings:
>
>1. Saiks Samateh mentioned the importance of making sure that efforts at
>building our Web site, and indeed working on an umbrella organization
>should
>not be concentrated in the US. This is a valid point, and one that's being
>taken into serious consideration. If Saiks wrote his e-mail in response to
>my mention of people I've contacted about building the site, I would like
>to
>re-assure him that those people (few as they are) were contacted because of
>work they'd already done (e.g. George Sarr), because he donated a domain
>name and Web site (Dr. Amadou Janneh), etc. Rest assured that we will be
>expanding not only the scope of the site, but also opportunities for people
>to have a say in what's on it.
>
>2. I'm still planning to contact different groups, and people in various
>parts of the world about both the Web site, and also developing the
>position
>paper we will be presenting Sen. Feingold. May I also mention that I also
>received the article on Africa Debt Cancellation forwarded by Ylva
>Hernlund,
>and I've already followed some of the Web resources the article mentions.
>I
>think the various organizations metioned will be invaluable allies in
>building a case for recovering monies alledged to have been embezzled by
>President Jammeh (or at least ascertaining whether or not the accusations
>are indeed true).
>
>That's about it. I'll probably think of other issues when I'm less sleepy.
>For now, I'd like to wish you all the best, and good night (or morning, or
>day, or evening ...)
>
>Katim
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Landing Jatta <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 10:19 PM
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>
> > Dear Sir,
> >
> > Thank you for your call. Your call to liberate
> > ourselves and our beautiful country is a genuine one
> > which will be answered pretty soon. A majority of us
> > are absolutely ready to take the risk and put our
> > lives on the line for peace and tranquility to come
> > back. I could not imagine that this stupid president
> > of Kaninlai, as we in the army now refers to him
> > because he is now afraid to settle at State House, is
> > the one dictating what happens in the country. He
> > should be crucified and his remains nailed on the
> > fence in Mccarthy Square for the general public to
> > see. Now every officer in the Paramilitary Police have
> > regretted their action. Some of my friends keep crying
> > and asking Almighty Allah for repent; as you have
> > alluded and clearly stated in your resurrective
> > message to us all in the GNA, the only genuine
> > repentive process must be to crucify the Kaninlai
> > Mansa.
> >
> > In conclusion, sir, we would like your leadership in
> > this to get rid of this stupid Mansa of Kaninlai; I
> > can assure you and each and every noble Gambian that
> > we will act sooner than later. Time will tell. Right
> > now he is only embarking on the protection of Capt
> > Jammeh and his Sate guards, but we are ready to
> > proceed.
> >
> > Landing Jatta.
> >
> > --- ebou colly <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
> > >
> > >
> > > Soldiers of the Gambia Army it is indeed a
> > > reassuring
> > > feeling to learn that there are some of you who have
> > > totally regretted the killing of the innocent
> > > children
> > > you were forced to shoot by Yaya. And most of you
> > > have
> > > also realized that the despot is making all efforts
> > > to
> > > shift the blame on you. Anyway after clearing his
> > > image, he would then as usual send few bulls with a
> > > couple of thousand Dalasis to each of your camps for
> > > f
> > > you to feast on and praise him as the good leader.
> > > You
> > > will understand what I am exactly telling you.
> > > Anyway
> > > just remember that your hands have been soiled by
> > > children's blood.
> > >
> > > It is however understandable that you were
> > > inadequately equipped, under prepared, misled and
> > > misinformed that sad day. In the first place you all
> > > know how Yaya has been systematically undermining
> > > the
> > > efficiency of the GNA through a deliberate
> > > conspiracy
> > > of robbing you of the right equipment, the right
> > > talents and the proper training. And those elite
> > > vampires, freeloaders, and patronage junkies lying
> > > all
> > > over to protect their perks and benefits have only
> > > made things look uglier. The bottom line up front
> > > was
> > > that you were sent out that day to control a riot
> > > situation which none of you were ever trained or
> > > prepared to handle in your military careers. In the
> > > first place Ak47 assault rifles should not have been
> > > issued for that civil disturbance operation at all,
> > > let alone arming the security forces with them. On
> > > the
> > > other hand I can understand why they were issued,
> > > because there are nothing in your armories to equip
> > > yourselves with for the assignment. That was the
> > > first
> > > step to the disaster that later unfolded in the
> > > operation.
> > >
> > > Lets be frank to each other, the GNA does not in
> > > anyway understand the proper method of
> > > riot-controlling, neither does it have the means to
> > > do
> > > so. If we are to reflect back to the only
> > > consignment
> > > of good riot -controlling gears that the GNA ever
> > > had,
> > > I could remember in 1998, there were only about 200
> > > gas masks donated by Libya. But like the ten T-54
> > > tanks and the ninety-two 35mm artillery pieces from
> > > Egypt, the APCS, plus all your other good equipment
> > > meant to improve your competence technically and
> > > tactically, Yaya simply took all of them from the
> > > camps and hid them at the State House. The typical
> > > Mobutu Style of securing himself at the expense of
> > > his
> > > nation. As ignorant as Yaya is about the dynamics of
> > > heavy weapons however, he does not know that after
> > > keeping those arsenals without firing or properly
> > > aligning them for even six months they permanently
> > > lose their technical configurations, hence rendering
> > > them useless. I may as well advise him to find a
> > > junkyard and dump those tanks and artillery pieces
> > > that have never worked and would never do again.
> > >
> > > However the issue here is about you the soldiers.
> > > Yaya is indirectly pointing his fingers to you as
> > > the
> > > child killers when he was the very one who
> > > manipulated
> > > you into the operations. And unfortunately, your
> > > leaders who should have guided you on the
> > > operational
> > > principles of using minimum force under such
> > > circumstances lacked the proper education to do so.
> > > It
> > > is no secret that some of you, the ordinary soldiers
> > > are far better educated than your Chief of Staff
> > > Baboucarr Jatta and Yaya Jammeh himself.
> > > Nonetheless,
> > > they were the leaders you had depended on to guide
> > > you
> > > and of course protect your actions if they turned
> > > unfavorable as in this regrettable case. But look at
> > > them now. Yaya in particular who gave the orders by
> > > referring to the school children as "the bastards
> > > who
> > > should be dealt with without mercy", is now giving
> > > the
> > > impression to the world that if he had been in the
> > > country that day he would have prevented you, the
> > > murderers, from killing the kids. Certainly, out
> > > here,
> > > most of us very well understand that Yaya led you
> > > into
> > > this unprecedented act, quite unbecoming of good
> > > soldiers with the right leadership. For Yaya to
> > > disassociate himself from this massacre should be
> > > termed the betrayal of the millennium. In a war
> > > situation, leaders like him and Baboucarr Jatta are
> > > given hasty court martial hearings and shot like all
> > > traitors deserved.
> > >
> > > But by our judgement here, we have already found him
> > > guilty of two capital crimes. (1) He has ordered the
> > > murder of our finest sons and daughters who could
> > > have
> > > been our leaders tomorrow; plus (2) he has betrayed
> > > the security forces that acted exclusively on his
> > > orders in the slaughter.
> > >
> > > As a result, I urged you to act. This is the time
> > > to
> > > get rid of Yaya Jammeh by all the means you can
> > > apply.
> > > Of course, some of you have already registered your
> > > commitment to do it, which if successfully done,
> > > would
> > > be the most progressive and noble thing you would
> > > have
> > > done for the peace-loving Gambian people. Gambia
> > > does
> > > not deserve a person like Yaya. He has lied in your
> > > names, killed in your names, cheated and stole in
> > > your
> > > names, humiliated you and then in this latest
> > > incident, ordered the killing of our children,
> > > brothers and sisters. Yet it is apparent that
> > > dictators like him would foolishly refuse to accede
> > > to
> > > popular demand for them to step down and give chance
> > > to genuine democracy to the point of their own
> > > perils
> > > and to the extent of even destroying the whole
> > > country. Anyway before this retarded imbecile
> > > destroys
> > > the nation you the soldiers must take the
> > > initiative.
> > > The removal of Yaya from that seat would be the
> > > greatest service you could do for The Gambian people
> > > and mankind in general. Yaya's killing instinct is a
> > > mental attitude. And The Gambia is a small family,
> > > peopled by decent men and women who for generations
> > > would not kill each other for any reason whatsoever.
> > > The more time you give to this evil character the
> > > greater risk the Gambian people stand to suffer in
> > > the
> > > future.
> > >
> > > Remember how it was done in 1994? If the senior
> > > ones
> > > are too timid to do it, let the junior officers do
> > > it.
> > > But you must conduct the operation with the genuine
> > > intention of calling the civilians to take over the
> > > political platform in the shortest possible time.
> > > Between us, we all know that Yaya is not a real
> > > soldier. He only pretends to be one when in actual
> > > fact he is the worst person in uniform who has ever
> > > existed in your midst. How many of you have honestly
> > > ever seen the fool firing a weapon, leading a
> > > tactical
> > > operation, conducting a land navigation exercise or
> > > going through a BFT? The guy is false in that
> > > uniform
> > > but has been hiding behind it with the worst abuses
> > > imaginable. So GNA soldiers must realize that the
> > > day
> > > of reckoning is quite close now, when Yaya and his
> > > cohorts would pay the price of their evil deeds.
> > >
> > > You must not allow the outside forces under
> > > mobilization now to come and do it for you. History
> > > would not forgive you for that in anyway. And most
> > > important of all, there are far too many outstanding
> > > intellectuals waiting to come and work for the
> > > Gambia
> > > after the removal of Yaya the moron. Some of the
> > > best
> > > and finest Gambian brains within or outside the
> > > country cannot be utilized because they are humans
> > > governed by conscience and integrity. Their positive
> > > characters and codes of conduct made them true
> > > persons
> > > who would rather die than succumb to the terrorist
> > > rule of a semi-educated tyrant. Helping the Gambian
> > > people lose Yaya therefore is a historical
> > > obligation
> > > you must fulfil. That would not only mean rescuing
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Subject: Hamat Bah Takes Jammeh To Task
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culled from todays Point Newspaper.
Hamat Bah Takes Jammeh To Task
=20
=20
"The fact that President Jammeh has confirmed in his speech that he =
was 'constantly in touch with' his government made us believe, and =
conclude that all those who spoke and acted during the crisis were doing =
so on his instructions and directives."=20
So said Hamat Bah leader of the opposition National Reconciliation =
Party (NRP) at a press conference called at the party's bureau on Monday =
in reaction to the President's address to the nation on Sunday evening.=20
Mr. Bah said the Vice President, Interior Minister and the =
security forces all acted under the orders of the President, since the =
President did not condemn their actions in his speech.=20
Noting that under section 61-1a of the Constitution, President =
Jammeh is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces Bah declared, "We =
believe that he was involved in the actions that took place during the =
crisis."=20
Saying "no stone will be left unturned," Bah continued, has been a =
famous slogan of the government of the day, adding that "we heard it =
when Koro Ceesay was killed, we heard it many a time, we heard it in the =
aftermath of the torture of UDP militants and nothing came of it."=20
He said the talk of inquiry and inquest in just a mere statement =
"as they would tell you that they would investigate, at the end nothing =
would come out of it."=20
"I am convinced that most Gambians have lost trust in this =
strategy, and the statements his people have been making, on his =
instructions, are merely intended to pre-empt the proposed inquest, =
because they've already made a conclusion apportioning blame in advance =
even before the inquiry starts," he noted.=20
"As far as we are concerned, they've already strategised to impede =
the investigation and to mislead whoever is going to make the =
investigation by their flimpsy and inconsistent statements," he said.=20
"We know that they are very good in misleading the people. We've =
heard it many a time. They fabricate stories against people and get away =
with it, but this one they would never get away with, we will get to the =
truth," Bah declared.=20
He recommended that independent and neutral persons be charged =
with the responsibility of investigating the whole crisis, and that the =
post mortem report be made pubic.=20
He said when Abiola died, the Nigerian government invited =
independent pathologists all over the world to do the post mortem which, =
he said, is not the case here.=20
He described the incidents of April 10 and 11 as the darkest days =
in Gambian history.=20
He said the students gathered to exercise their constitutional =
rights only to be slained.=20
"It is unfortunate that a government that talks about the welfare =
of the youth of this country could mobilise security forces, and arm =
them to kill school children in broad daylight," Bah lamented. The =
government should be held responsible for all what happened, he said.=20
"It is unfortunate that they are looking for excuses or =
scapegoats, by labelling criminals that were held in various police =
cells as responsible for the deaths. They failed to realize that people =
are aware that students were already killed well before the cells were =
opened," he pointed out.=20
The leadership of the APRC regime has been emphasising things of =
material value rather than human life, he further noted. "Yes, I agree =
that there were property damages to the tune of several millions of =
dalasis, but for the lives lost, just one of them could have earned this =
country hundreds of millions," he noted
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<P align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2>culled from todays Point =
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<P align=3Dcenter><FONT color=3D#000000 =
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<P align=3Dcenter><B><FONT color=3D#000000 =
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<P align=3Dcenter><B><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D+3>Hamat Bah =
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<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D-1>"The fact that =
President Jammeh=20
has confirmed in his speech that he was 'constantly in touch with' =
his=20
government made us believe, and conclude that all those who spoke =
and=20
acted during the crisis were doing so on his instructions and=20
directives."</FONT>=20
<P align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D-1>So said Hamat Bah leader of the =
opposition=20
National Reconciliation Party (NRP) at a press conference called =
at the=20
party's bureau on Monday in reaction to the President's address to =
the=20
nation on Sunday evening.=20
<P align=3Djustify>Mr. Bah said the Vice President, Interior =
Minister and=20
the security forces all acted under the orders of the President, =
since the=20
President did not condemn their actions in his speech.=20
<P align=3Djustify>Noting that under section 61-1a of the =
Constitution,=20
President Jammeh is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces Bah =
declared, "We believe that he was involved in the actions that =
took place=20
during the crisis."=20
<P align=3Djustify>Saying "no stone will be left unturned," Bah =
continued,=20
has been a famous slogan of the government of the day, adding that =
"we=20
heard it when Koro Ceesay was killed, we heard it many a time, we =
heard it=20
in the aftermath of the torture of UDP militants and nothing came =
of it."=20
<P align=3Djustify>He said the talk of inquiry and inquest in just =
a mere=20
statement "as they would tell you that they would investigate, at =
the end=20
nothing would come out of it."=20
<P align=3Djustify>"I am convinced that most Gambians have lost =
trust in=20
this strategy, and the statements his people have been making, on =
his=20
instructions, are merely intended to pre-empt the proposed =
inquest,=20
because they've already made a conclusion apportioning blame in =
advance=20
even before the inquiry starts," he noted.=20
<P align=3Djustify>"As far as we are concerned, they've already =
strategised=20
to impede the investigation and to mislead whoever is going to =
make the=20
investigation by their flimpsy and inconsistent statements," he =
said.=20
<P align=3Djustify>"We know that they are very good in misleading =
the=20
people. We've heard it many a time. They fabricate stories against =
people=20
and get away with it, but this one they would never get away with, =
we will=20
get to the truth," Bah declared.=20
<P align=3Djustify>He recommended that independent and neutral =
persons be=20
charged with the responsibility of investigating the whole crisis, =
and=20
that the post mortem report be made pubic.=20
<P align=3Djustify>He said when Abiola died, the Nigerian =
government invited=20
independent pathologists all over the world to do the post mortem =
which,=20
he said, is not the case here.=20
<P align=3Djustify>He described the incidents of April 10 and 11 =
as the=20
darkest days in Gambian history.=20
<P align=3Djustify>He said the students gathered to exercise their =
constitutional rights only to be slained.=20
<P align=3Djustify>"It is unfortunate that a government that talks =
about the=20
welfare of the youth of this country could mobilise security =
forces, and=20
arm them to kill school children in broad daylight," Bah lamented. =
The=20
government should be held responsible for all what happened, he =
said.=20
<P align=3Djustify>"It is unfortunate that they are looking for =
excuses or=20
scapegoats, by labelling criminals that were held in various =
police cells=20
as responsible for the deaths. They failed to realize that people =
are=20
aware that students were already killed well before the cells were =
opened," he pointed out.=20
<P align=3Dleft>The leadership of the APRC regime has been =
emphasising=20
things of material value rather than human life, he further noted. =
"Yes, I=20
agree that there were property damages to the tune of several =
millions of=20
dalasis, but for the lives lost, just one of them could have =
earned this=20
country hundreds of millions," he=20
noted</FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:52:08 +0100
Reply-To: abdul aziz drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
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From: abdul aziz drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: News Blackout? ( culled from the Point)
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News Blackout?
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=20
At their joint press conference, the government spokesman promised =
that he and the Cabinet committee will be giving updates on the moves =
contemplated or carried out by government in the wake of the killing of =
students and destruction of properties by hooligans. Since then we've =
only heard President Jammeh's address to the nation.=20
The situation is so grave that we were expecting a task force =
comprising government officials and independent persons to deal with the =
unfinished business. The Bar Association and other groups have not so =
far responded to government's overtures to be parties for the =
identification of people to serve in the proposed enquiries.=20
If they have already done so, this must be publicised in line with =
the promise cited above.=20
Our suggestion, for the government to disseminate through its =
Official Gazette the names of deceased, wounded and detained persons, =
still awaits action.=20
The issue of observance of human rights with regards to the =
detentions has also been ignored, at least as we go to press.=20
The hundreds of messages in English, French, German etc. flooding =
our office these past few days are a testimony that the world is =
watching all moves, hence the need to swiftly address the situation. For =
want of space, we cannot publish all of them.=20
When will Sargo Jallow do the promised updates so as to address =
the rumours we hear about the detainees, about lists of parents of =
students etc.?=20
With reagrds to the hit-list, do we understand the sillence to =
mean that it's TOUCHE?=20
Anyway, our life has never been and is no longer important to us =
from the day the students were gunned down. We cannot be important, but =
the Survival of the Gambian Nation is and all well-meaning Gambians =
should work towards achieving that goal without fear.=20
To the government, we say - be guided by the principles of good =
governance and play your cards in the most transparent manner.=20
Whe one carries out an action, there must be a reaction whether =
anticipated, grasped or not. The hard thing for some people is to =
interpret properly not only the writings on the wall, but their real =
meaning. We have been taken to the brink of a conflagration. =20
To forestall any such possibility, it behoves the government to =
openly deal with the issue without fear, favour or ill-will.=20
That is the price that must be paid to cleanse the blood stains on =
the uniforms, and efface the gruesome pictures in the nightmare-riddled =
consciences.=20
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A.Drammeh=20
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<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000=20
face=3D"Times New Roman,Times,Times NewRoman" size=3D-1>At their =
joint press=20
conference, the government spokesman promised that he and the =
Cabinet=20
committee will be giving updates on the moves contemplated or =
carried out=20
by government in the wake of the killing of students and =
destruction of=20
properties by hooligans. Since then we've only heard President =
Jammeh's=20
address to the nation. </FONT>
<P align=3Djustify><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman,Times,Times =
NewRoman"=20
size=3D-1>The situation is so grave that we were expecting a task =
force=20
comprising government officials and independent persons to deal =
with the=20
unfinished business. The Bar Association and other groups have not =
so far=20
responded to government's overtures to be parties for the =
identification=20
of people to serve in the proposed enquiries.=20
<P align=3Djustify>If they have already done so, this must be =
publicised in=20
line with the promise cited above.=20
<P align=3Djustify>Our suggestion, for the government to =
disseminate through=20
its Official Gazette the names of deceased, wounded and detained =
persons,=20
still awaits action.=20
<P align=3Djustify>The issue of observance of human rights with =
regards to=20
the detentions has also been ignored, at least as we go to press.=20
<P align=3Djustify>The hundreds of messages in English, French, =
German etc.=20
flooding our office these past few days are a testimony that the =
world is=20
watching all moves, hence the need to swiftly address the =
situation. For=20
want of space, we cannot publish all of them.=20
<P align=3Djustify>When will Sargo Jallow do the promised updates =
so as to=20
address the rumours we hear about the detainees, about lists of =
parents of=20
students etc.?=20
<P align=3Djustify>With reagrds to the hit-list, do we understand =
the=20
sillence to mean that it's TOUCHE?=20
<P align=3Djustify>Anyway, our life has never been and is no =
longer=20
important to us from the day the students were gunned down. We =
cannot be=20
important, but the Survival of the Gambian Nation is and all =
well-meaning=20
Gambians should work towards achieving that goal without fear.=20
<P align=3Djustify>To the government, we say - be guided by the =
principles=20
of good governance and play your cards in the most transparent =
manner.=20
<P align=3Djustify>Whe one carries out an action, there must be a =
reaction=20
whether anticipated, grasped or not. The hard thing for some =
people is to=20
interpret properly not only the writings on the wall, but their =
real=20
meaning. We have been taken to the brink of a=20
conflagration. =20
<P align=3Djustify> To forestall any such possibility, it =
behoves the=20
government to openly deal with the issue without fear, favour or =
ill-will.=20
<P>That is the price that must be paid to cleanse the blood stains =
on the=20
uniforms, and efface the gruesome pictures in the =
nightmare-riddled=20
consciences. </FONT>
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<html><head><meta Name='keywords' Content='commtouch, pronto, mail, free email, free, branded, web based, free web based email, communications, internet, software, advertising banners, e-mail, free software'></head><body ><div align='left'><font ><blockquote><blockquote><TT>Landing Jatta and Ebou Colley, thanks for your offer, but no thanks. <BR>
It is this kind of thinking that brought us Jammeh. We need a change <BR>
of mind set here. Why don't you'll use your vote in the 2001 <BR>
presidential elections and also ensure a free and fair elections to <BR>
get rid of him. He can only win if you'll help him cheat. What <BR>
you'll are espousing perpetuates the negative stereotype that <BR>
soldiers know only how to use force. The gun should be used to <BR>
protect the nation, and not on the nation, and that includes Jammeh. <BR>
I think Gambians are wiser than you give us credit. I don't trust <BR>
any of you as long as you'll follow the footsteps, of Yahya Jammeh, <BR>
Samuel Doe, Musa Traore, Gerry Rollings, Abacha, and all those wolves <BR>
in the armies in our continent. I don't care what the the name of <BR>
the Mansa is, be it Jammeh, Jatta, Colley, etc. You are illegal as <BR>
long as you came in by the barrel of the gun. Did you guys join the <BR>
army to serve the country or to run the nation. Since when does <BR>
holding a gun qualifies someone for the top job of the country. My <BR>
challenge to you'll is to use you coup conspiracy efforts and rally <BR>
your colleagues to vote him out of office come 2001. We all want <BR>
this monster to go, but we have a nation to build after 2001.<BR>
<BR>
Chi Jaama<BR>
<BR>
Joe Sambou<BR>
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Joe & Katim:
My sentiments exactly! Military violence to get rid of Jammeh,though
appealing at first glance, only breeds more violence and the further
militarization of Gambian society, where "might makes right." Enough
blood of ordinary Gambian citizens and soldiers has been spilled
already. Free and Fair Elections is what we should be supporting,
rather than another possible carnage. The cycle of violence must stop!
SUPPORT FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS IN THE GAMBIA IN 2001/2. PLAY YOUR PART!
Abdoulaye
No justice, no peace!
Jammeh Must Go!
joe sambou wrote:
>
> Landing Jatta and Ebou Colley, thanks for your
> offer, but no thanks.
> It is this kind of thinking that brought us
> Jammeh. We need a change
> of mind set here. Why don't you'll use your vote
> in the 2001
> presidential elections and also ensure a free and
> fair elections to
> get rid of him. He can only win if you'll help
> him cheat. What
> you'll are espousing perpetuates the negative
> stereotype that
> soldiers know only how to use force. The gun
> should be used to
> protect the nation, and not on the nation, and
> that includes Jammeh.
> I think Gambians are wiser than you give us
> credit. I don't trust
> any of you as long as you'll follow the footsteps,
> of Yahya Jammeh,
> Samuel Doe, Musa Traore, Gerry Rollings, Abacha,
> and all those wolves
> in the armies in our continent. I don't care what
> the the name of
> the Mansa is, be it Jammeh, Jatta, Colley, etc.
> You are illegal as
> long as you came in by the barrel of the gun. Did
> you guys join the
> army to serve the country or to run the nation.
> Since when does
> holding a gun qualifies someone for the top job of
> the country. My
> challenge to you'll is to use you coup conspiracy
> efforts and rally
> your colleagues to vote him out of office come
> 2001. We all want
> this monster to go, but we have a nation to build
> after 2001.
>
> Chi Jaama
>
> Joe Sambou
>
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From The Independent Newspaper, April 25, 2000
Astrid/
Following shooting of student demonstrators Gambians protest in
Europe, America
Gambians and others overseas have been responding to the
events of 10th and 11th April with petitions, demonstrations,
fundraising and a new web site.
At least one demonstration was held last week in the US. In
Sweden, a demonstration will be held on Wednesday 26th
April. Simultaneous demonstrations have been planned for 2nd
May in New York and London, UK. Others are expected to join
the protest day.
Last Sunday a group of Gambians and non-Gambians held a
meeting in New York. One Mr Gibril Bah was at that meeting
and said a cross section of Gambians from New York and
Connecticut, representatives from the Sierra Leonean
Community in New York, the African American Community
and other African nationalities were present.
'It was decided that contacts be made with human rights
organisations and other international organisations like the UN
to sensitise them about the sad developments in The Gambia
and ask for their co-operation in putting them to an end,' he
said.
Mr Bah said the meeting resolved to organise a demonstration
starting from the UN Gambia mission in New York to the
United Nations Building on May 2, 2000.
The group also decided at the meeting to form an organisation
to be named The Movement for the Restoration of Democracy
in The Gambia.
Meanwhile, a web site has been established carrying an
'online' petition condemning the actions of the security forces
and calling for pressure to be applied to the Gambian
government to ensure that human rights are respected.
Another Gambian in the United States, Sigga Jagne, has
begun distributing a pamphlet and petition on behalf of the
Gambian Association. Addressed to the United Nations, the
petition calls for the international body to 'keep pressure on the
Government of The Gambia' to, among other things, 'instruct
the security forces to halt all excessive use of force against
civilians; release all the students currently under detention' and
'launch an independent inquiry into the shootings and
circumstances surrounding it'.
Ms Jagne said her sixteen-year-old brother was one of those
shot and he remains in hospital with 'critical injuries to his
internal organs'.
A 'Fund for the Gambian Student Massacre' has also been
established in the US with the aim of aiding the injured,
investigating the incident and funding legal action, according to
Ms Jagne.
A number of funds have also been established in some European countries.
There has also been efforts on the part of Gambians overseas
to bring the incident to the attention of governments overseas,
in particular the US government, with one Katim S. Touray
organising a meeting with US Senator Russell Feingold to
discuss the issue.
Meanwhile, the European Union last Friday called on Gambian
authorities to ensure a fair trial for all those involved in the
'recent confrontations'.
In a statement from the European Union Presidency, the EU
expressed 'hope that the reasons which caused those
disturbances may be overcome through dialogue and in a
peaceful and orderly manner.'
The EU called on the Gambian authorities 'to use maximum
restraint when maintaining or restoring public order in line with
the need to respect human rights and the rule of law'.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 5:41 AM
Subject: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
Soldiers of the Gambia Army it is indeed a reassuring
feeling to learn that there are some of you who have
totally regretted the killing of the innocent children
you were forced to shoot by Yaya. And most of you have
also realized that the despot is making all efforts to
shift the blame on you. Anyway after clearing his
image, he would then as usual send few bulls with a
couple of thousand Dalasis to each of your camps for f
you to feast on and praise him as the good leader. You
will understand what I am exactly telling you. Anyway
just remember that your hands have been soiled by
children's blood.
It is however understandable that you were
inadequately equipped, under prepared, misled and
misinformed that sad day. In the first place you all
know how Yaya has been systematically undermining the
efficiency of the GNA through a deliberate conspiracy
of robbing you of the right equipment, the right
talents and the proper training. And those elite
vampires, freeloaders, and patronage junkies lying all
over to protect their perks and benefits have only
made things look uglier. The bottom line up front was
that you were sent out that day to control a riot
situation which none of you were ever trained or
prepared to handle in your military careers. In the
first place Ak47 assault rifles should not have been
issued for that civil disturbance operation at all,
let alone arming the security forces with them. On the
other hand I can understand why they were issued,
because there are nothing in your armories to equip
yourselves with for the assignment. That was the first
step to the disaster that later unfolded in the
operation.
Lets be frank to each other, the GNA does not in
anyway understand the proper method of
riot-controlling, neither does it have the means to do
so. If we are to reflect back to the only consignment
of good riot -controlling gears that the GNA ever had,
I could remember in 1998, there were only about 200
gas masks donated by Libya. But like the ten T-54
tanks and the ninety-two 35mm artillery pieces from
Egypt, the APCS, plus all your other good equipment
meant to improve your competence technically and
tactically, Yaya simply took all of them from the
camps and hid them at the State House. The typical
Mobutu Style of securing himself at the expense of his
nation. As ignorant as Yaya is about the dynamics of
heavy weapons however, he does not know that after
keeping those arsenals without firing or properly
aligning them for even six months they permanently
lose their technical configurations, hence rendering
them useless. I may as well advise him to find a
junkyard and dump those tanks and artillery pieces
that have never worked and would never do again.
However the issue here is about you the soldiers.
Yaya is indirectly pointing his fingers to you as the
child killers when he was the very one who manipulated
you into the operations. And unfortunately, your
leaders who should have guided you on the operational
principles of using minimum force under such
circumstances lacked the proper education to do so. It
is no secret that some of you, the ordinary soldiers
are far better educated than your Chief of Staff
Baboucarr Jatta and Yaya Jammeh himself. Nonetheless,
they were the leaders you had depended on to guide you
and of course protect your actions if they turned
unfavorable as in this regrettable case. But look at
them now. Yaya in particular who gave the orders by
referring to the school children as "the bastards who
should be dealt with without mercy", is now giving the
impression to the world that if he had been in the
country that day he would have prevented you, the
murderers, from killing the kids. Certainly, out here,
most of us very well understand that Yaya led you into
this unprecedented act, quite unbecoming of good
soldiers with the right leadership. For Yaya to
disassociate himself from this massacre should be
termed the betrayal of the millennium. In a war
situation, leaders like him and Baboucarr Jatta are
given hasty court martial hearings and shot like all
traitors deserved.
But by our judgement here, we have already found him
guilty of two capital crimes. (1) He has ordered the
murder of our finest sons and daughters who could have
been our leaders tomorrow; plus (2) he has betrayed
the security forces that acted exclusively on his
orders in the slaughter.
As a result, I urged you to act. This is the time to
get rid of Yaya Jammeh by all the means you can apply.
Of course, some of you have already registered your
commitment to do it, which if successfully done, would
be the most progressive and noble thing you would have
done for the peace-loving Gambian people. Gambia does
not deserve a person like Yaya. He has lied in your
names, killed in your names, cheated and stole in your
names, humiliated you and then in this latest
incident, ordered the killing of our children,
brothers and sisters. Yet it is apparent that
dictators like him would foolishly refuse to accede to
popular demand for them to step down and give chance
to genuine democracy to the point of their own perils
and to the extent of even destroying the whole
country. Anyway before this retarded imbecile destroys
the nation you the soldiers must take the initiative.
The removal of Yaya from that seat would be the
greatest service you could do for The Gambian people
and mankind in general. Yaya's killing instinct is a
mental attitude. And The Gambia is a small family,
peopled by decent men and women who for generations
would not kill each other for any reason whatsoever.
The more time you give to this evil character the
greater risk the Gambian people stand to suffer in the
future.
Remember how it was done in 1994? If the senior ones
are too timid to do it, let the junior officers do it.
But you must conduct the operation with the genuine
intention of calling the civilians to take over the
political platform in the shortest possible time.
Between us, we all know that Yaya is not a real
soldier. He only pretends to be one when in actual
fact he is the worst person in uniform who has ever
existed in your midst. How many of you have honestly
ever seen the fool firing a weapon, leading a tactical
operation, conducting a land navigation exercise or
going through a BFT? The guy is false in that uniform
but has been hiding behind it with the worst abuses
imaginable. So GNA soldiers must realize that the day
of reckoning is quite close now, when Yaya and his
cohorts would pay the price of their evil deeds.
You must not allow the outside forces under
mobilization now to come and do it for you. History
would not forgive you for that in anyway. And most
important of all, there are far too many outstanding
intellectuals waiting to come and work for the Gambia
after the removal of Yaya the moron. Some of the best
and finest Gambian brains within or outside the
country cannot be utilized because they are humans
governed by conscience and integrity. Their positive
characters and codes of conduct made them true persons
who would rather die than succumb to the terrorist
rule of a semi-educated tyrant. Helping the Gambian
people lose Yaya therefore is a historical obligation
you must fulfil. That would not only mean rescuing our
nation at the brink of an imminent disaster but should
also be the only acceptable gesture the GNA could make
to restore its former prestigious image. It would be
popular, blessed, respected and cherished throughout
the world from Africa to Europe to Asia and the
Americas. Without that, be rest assured that the
members of the GNA should continue counting themselves
as passengers in Yaya's aircraft to hell where he
would be landing for killing our children.
May god bless you all.
Ebou Colly
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<DIV><BR></DIV>SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY<BR><BR><BR>Soldiers of the =
Gambia=20
Army it is indeed a reassuring<BR>feeling to learn that there are some =
of you=20
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the first=20
place you all<BR>know how Yaya has been systematically undermining=20
the<BR>efficiency of the GNA through a deliberate conspiracy<BR>of =
robbing you=20
of the right equipment, the right<BR>talents and the proper training. =
And=20
those elite<BR>vampires, freeloaders, and patronage junkies lying =
all<BR>over=20
to protect their perks and benefits have only<BR>made things look=20
uglier. The bottom line up front was<BR>that you were sent out =
that day=20
to control a riot<BR>situation which none of you were ever trained=20
or<BR>prepared to handle in your military careers. In the<BR>first =
place Ak47=20
assault rifles should not have been<BR>issued for that civil =
disturbance=20
operation at all,<BR>let alone arming the security forces with them. =
On=20
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assignment. That=20
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the<BR>operation.<BR><BR>Lets be frank to each other, the GNA does not =
in<BR>anyway understand the proper method of<BR>riot-controlling, =
neither does=20
it have the means to do<BR>so. If we are to reflect back to the only=20
consignment<BR>of good riot -controlling gears that the GNA ever =
had,<BR>I=20
could remember in 1998, there were only about 200<BR>gas masks donated =
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Libya. But like the ten T-54<BR>tanks and the ninety-two 35mm =
artillery pieces=20
from<BR>Egypt, the APCS, plus all your other good equipment<BR>meant =
to=20
improve your competence technically and<BR>tactically, Yaya simply =
took all of=20
them from the<BR>camps and hid them at the State House. The =
typical<BR>Mobutu=20
Style of securing himself at the expense of his<BR>nation. As ignorant =
as Yaya=20
is about the dynamics of<BR>heavy weapons however, he does not know =
that=20
after<BR>keeping those arsenals without firing or properly<BR>aligning =
them=20
for even six months they permanently<BR>lose their technical =
configurations,=20
hence rendering<BR>them useless. I may as well advise him to find=20
a<BR>junkyard and dump those tanks and artillery pieces<BR>that have =
never=20
worked and would never do again.<BR><BR>However the issue here is =
about you=20
the soldiers.<BR>Yaya is indirectly pointing his fingers to you as=20
the<BR>child killers when he was the very one who manipulated<BR>you =
into the=20
operations. And unfortunately, your<BR>leaders who should have guided =
you on=20
the operational<BR>principles of using minimum force under=20
such<BR>circumstances lacked the proper education to do so. It<BR>is =
no secret=20
that some of you, the ordinary soldiers<BR>are far better educated =
than your=20
Chief of Staff<BR>Baboucarr Jatta and Yaya Jammeh himself.=20
Nonetheless,<BR>they were the leaders you had depended on to guide =
you<BR>and=20
of course protect your actions if they turned<BR>unfavorable as in =
this=20
regrettable case. But look at<BR>them now. Yaya in particular who gave =
the=20
orders by<BR>referring to the school children as "the bastards =
who<BR>should=20
be dealt with without mercy", is now giving the<BR>impression to the =
world=20
that if he had been in the<BR>country that day he would have prevented =
you,=20
the<BR>murderers, from killing the kids. Certainly, out here,<BR>most =
of us=20
very well understand that Yaya led you into<BR>this unprecedented act, =
quite=20
unbecoming of good<BR>soldiers with the right leadership. For Yaya=20
to<BR>disassociate himself from this massacre should be<BR>termed the =
betrayal=20
of the millennium. In a war<BR>situation, leaders like him and =
Baboucarr Jatta=20
are<BR>given hasty court martial hearings and shot like =
all<BR>traitors=20
deserved.<BR><BR>But by our judgement here, we have already found=20
him<BR>guilty of two capital crimes. (1) He has ordered the<BR>murder =
of our=20
finest sons and daughters who could have<BR>been our leaders tomorrow; =
plus=20
(2) he has betrayed<BR>the security forces that acted exclusively on=20
his<BR>orders in the slaughter.<BR><BR> As a result, I urged you =
to act.=20
This is the time to<BR>get rid of Yaya Jammeh by all the means you can =
apply.<BR>Of course, some of you have already registered =
your<BR>commitment to=20
do it, which if successfully done, would<BR>be the most progressive =
and noble=20
thing you would have<BR>done for the peace-loving Gambian people. =
Gambia=20
does<BR>not deserve a person like Yaya. He has lied in =
your<BR>names,=20
killed in your names, cheated and stole in your<BR>names, humiliated =
you and=20
then in this latest<BR>incident, ordered the killing of our=20
children,<BR>brothers and sisters. Yet it is apparent =
that<BR>dictators like=20
him would foolishly refuse to accede to<BR>popular demand for them to =
step=20
down and give chance<BR>to genuine democracy to the point of their own =
perils<BR>and to the extent of even destroying the whole<BR>country. =
Anyway=20
before this retarded imbecile destroys<BR>the nation you the soldiers =
must=20
take the initiative.<BR>The removal of Yaya from that seat would be=20
the<BR>greatest service you could do for The Gambian people<BR>and =
mankind in=20
general. Yaya's killing instinct is a<BR>mental attitude. And The =
Gambia is a=20
small family,<BR>peopled by decent men and women who for =
generations<BR>would=20
not kill each other for any reason whatsoever.<BR>The more time you =
give to=20
this evil character the<BR>greater risk the Gambian people stand to =
suffer in=20
the<BR>future.<BR><BR>Remember how it was done in 1994? If the =
senior=20
ones<BR>are too timid to do it, let the junior officers do it.<BR>But =
you must=20
conduct the operation with the genuine<BR>intention of calling the =
civilians=20
to take over the<BR>political platform in the shortest possible=20
time.<BR>Between us, we all know that Yaya is not a real<BR>soldier. =
He only=20
pretends to be one when in actual<BR>fact he is the worst person in =
uniform=20
who has ever<BR>existed in your midst. How many of you have =
honestly<BR>ever=20
seen the fool firing a weapon, leading a tactical<BR>operation, =
conducting a=20
land navigation exercise or<BR>going through a BFT? The guy is false =
in that=20
uniform<BR>but has been hiding behind it with the worst=20
abuses<BR>imaginable. So GNA soldiers must realize that the =
day<BR>of=20
reckoning is quite close now, when Yaya and his<BR>cohorts would pay =
the price=20
of their evil deeds.<BR><BR>You must not allow the outside forces=20
under<BR>mobilization now to come and do it for you. History<BR>would =
not=20
forgive you for that in anyway. And most<BR>important of all, there =
are far=20
too many outstanding<BR>intellectuals waiting to come and work for the =
Gambia<BR>after the removal of Yaya the moron. Some of the best<BR>and =
finest=20
Gambian brains within or outside the<BR>country cannot be utilized =
because=20
they are humans<BR>governed by conscience and integrity. Their=20
positive<BR>characters and codes of conduct made them true =
persons<BR>who=20
would rather die than succumb to the terrorist<BR>rule of a =
semi-educated=20
tyrant. Helping the Gambian<BR>people lose Yaya therefore is a =
historical=20
obligation<BR>you must fulfil. That would not only mean rescuing =
our<BR>nation=20
at the brink of an imminent disaster but should<BR>also be the only =
acceptable=20
gesture the GNA could make<BR>to restore its former prestigious image. =
It=20
would be<BR>popular, blessed, respected and cherished =
throughout<BR>the world=20
from Africa to Europe to Asia and the<BR>Americas. Without that, be =
rest=20
assured that the<BR>members of the GNA should continue counting=20
themselves<BR>as passengers in Yaya's aircraft to hell where =
he<BR>would be=20
landing for killing our children.<BR><BR>May god bless you =
all.<BR><BR>Ebou=20
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SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
Soldiers of the Gambia Army it is indeed a reassuring
feeling to learn that there are some of you who have
totally regretted the killing of the innocent children
you were forced to shoot by Yaya. And most of you have
also realized that the despot is making all efforts to
shift the blame on you. Anyway after clearing his
image, he would then as usual send few bulls with a
couple of thousand Dalasis to each of your camps for f
you to feast on and praise him as the good leader. You
will understand what I am exactly telling you. Anyway
just remember that your hands have been soiled by
children's blood.
It is however understandable that you were
inadequately equipped, under prepared, misled and
misinformed that sad day. In the first place you all
know how Yaya has been systematically undermining the
efficiency of the GNA through a deliberate conspiracy
of robbing you of the right equipment, the right
talents and the proper training. And those elite
vampires, freeloaders, and patronage junkies lying all
over to protect their perks and benefits have only
made things look uglier. The bottom line up front was
that you were sent out that day to control a riot
situation which none of you were ever trained or
prepared to handle in your military careers. In the
first place Ak47 assault rifles should not have been
issued for that civil disturbance operation at all,
let alone arming the security forces with them. On the
other hand I can understand why they were issued,
because there are nothing in your armories to equip
yourselves with for the assignment. That was the first
step to the disaster that later unfolded in the
operation.
Lets be frank to each other, the GNA does not in
anyway understand the proper method of
riot-controlling, neither does it have the means to do
so. If we are to reflect back to the only consignment
of good riot -controlling gears that the GNA ever had,
I could remember in 1998, there were only about 200
gas masks donated by Libya. But like the ten T-54
tanks and the ninety-two 35mm artillery pieces from
Egypt, the APCS, plus all your other good equipment
meant to improve your competence technically and
tactically, Yaya simply took all of them from the
camps and hid them at the State House. The typical
Mobutu Style of securing himself at the expense of his
nation. As ignorant as Yaya is about the dynamics of
heavy weapons however, he does not know that after
keeping those arsenals without firing or properly
aligning them for even six months they permanently
lose their technical configurations, hence rendering
them useless. I may as well advise him to find a
junkyard and dump those tanks and artillery pieces
that have never worked and would never do again.
However the issue here is about you the soldiers.
Yaya is indirectly pointing his fingers to you as the
child killers when he was the very one who manipulated
you into the operations. And unfortunately, your
leaders who should have guided you on the operational
principles of using minimum force under such
circumstances lacked the proper education to do so. It
is no secret that some of you, the ordinary soldiers
are far better educated than your Chief of Staff
Baboucarr Jatta and Yaya Jammeh himself. Nonetheless,
they were the leaders you had depended on to guide you
and of course protect your actions if they turned
unfavorable as in this regrettable case. But look at
them now. Yaya in particular who gave the orders by
referring to the school children as "the bastards who
should be dealt with without mercy", is now giving the
impression to the world that if he had been in the
country that day he would have prevented you, the
murderers, from killing the kids. Certainly, out here,
most of us very well understand that Yaya led you into
this unprecedented act, quite unbecoming of good
soldiers with the right leadership. For Yaya to
disassociate himself from this massacre should be
termed the betrayal of the millennium. In a war
situation, leaders like him and Baboucarr Jatta are
given hasty court martial hearings and shot like all
traitors deserved.
But by our judgement here, we have already found him
guilty of two capital crimes. (1) He has ordered the
murder of our finest sons and daughters who could have
been our leaders tomorrow; plus (2) he has betrayed
the security forces that acted exclusively on his
orders in the slaughter.
As a result, I urged you to act. This is the time to
get rid of Yaya Jammeh by all the means you can apply.
Of course, some of you have already registered your
commitment to do it, which if successfully done, would
be the most progressive and noble thing you would have
done for the peace-loving Gambian people. Gambia does
not deserve a person like Yaya. He has lied in your
names, killed in your names, cheated and stole in your
names, humiliated you and then in this latest
incident, ordered the killing of our children,
brothers and sisters. Yet it is apparent that
dictators like him would foolishly refuse to accede to
popular demand for them to step down and give chance
to genuine democracy to the point of their own perils
and to the extent of even destroying the whole
country. Anyway before this retarded imbecile destroys
the nation you the soldiers must take the initiative.
The removal of Yaya from that seat would be the
greatest service you could do for The Gambian people
and mankind in general. Yaya's killing instinct is a
mental attitude. And The Gambia is a small family,
peopled by decent men and women who for generations
would not kill each other for any reason whatsoever.
The more time you give to this evil character the
greater risk the Gambian people stand to suffer in the
future.
Remember how it was done in 1994? If the senior ones
are too timid to do it, let the junior officers do it.
But you must conduct the operation with the genuine
intention of calling the civilians to take over the
political platform in the shortest possible time.
Between us, we all know that Yaya is not a real
soldier. He only pretends to be one when in actual
fact he is the worst person in uniform who has ever
existed in your midst. How many of you have honestly
ever seen the fool firing a weapon, leading a tactical
operation, conducting a land navigation exercise or
going through a BFT? The guy is false in that uniform
but has been hiding behind it with the worst abuses
imaginable. So GNA soldiers must realize that the day
of reckoning is quite close now, when Yaya and his
cohorts would pay the price of their evil deeds.
You must not allow the outside forces under
mobilization now to come and do it for you. History
would not forgive you for that in anyway. And most
important of all, there are far too many outstanding
intellectuals waiting to come and work for the Gambia
after the removal of Yaya the moron. Some of the best
and finest Gambian brains within or outside the
country cannot be utilized because they are humans
governed by conscience and integrity. Their positive
characters and codes of conduct made them true persons
who would rather die than succumb to the terrorist
rule of a semi-educated tyrant. Helping the Gambian
people lose Yaya therefore is a historical obligation
you must fulfil. That would not only mean rescuing our
nation at the brink of an imminent disaster but should
also be the only acceptable gesture the GNA could make
to restore its former prestigious image. It would be
popular, blessed, respected and cherished throughout
the world from Africa to Europe to Asia and the
Americas. Without that, be rest assured that the
members of the GNA should continue counting themselves
as passengers in Yaya's aircraft to hell where he
would be landing for killing our children.
May god bless you all.
Ebou Colly
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<DIV><BR></DIV>SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY<BR><BR><BR>Soldiers of the =
Gambia=20
Army it is indeed a reassuring<BR>feeling to learn that there are some =
of you=20
who have<BR>totally regretted the killing of the innocent =
children<BR>you were=20
forced to shoot by Yaya. And most of you have<BR>also realized that =
the despot=20
is making all efforts to<BR>shift the blame on you. Anyway after =
clearing his<BR>image, he would then as usual send few bulls with =
a<BR>couple=20
of thousand Dalasis to each of your camps for f<BR>you to feast on and =
praise=20
him as the good leader. You<BR>will understand what I am exactly =
telling you.=20
Anyway<BR>just remember that your hands have been soiled =
by<BR>children's=20
blood.<BR><BR> It is however understandable that you =
were<BR>inadequately=20
equipped, under prepared, misled and<BR>misinformed that sad day. In =
the first=20
place you all<BR>know how Yaya has been systematically undermining=20
the<BR>efficiency of the GNA through a deliberate conspiracy<BR>of =
robbing you=20
of the right equipment, the right<BR>talents and the proper training. =
And=20
those elite<BR>vampires, freeloaders, and patronage junkies lying =
all<BR>over=20
to protect their perks and benefits have only<BR>made things look=20
uglier. The bottom line up front was<BR>that you were sent out =
that day=20
to control a riot<BR>situation which none of you were ever trained=20
or<BR>prepared to handle in your military careers. In the<BR>first =
place Ak47=20
assault rifles should not have been<BR>issued for that civil =
disturbance=20
operation at all,<BR>let alone arming the security forces with them. =
On=20
the<BR>other hand I can understand why they were issued,<BR>because =
there are=20
nothing in your armories to equip<BR>yourselves with for the =
assignment. That=20
was the first<BR>step to the disaster that later unfolded in=20
the<BR>operation.<BR><BR>Lets be frank to each other, the GNA does not =
in<BR>anyway understand the proper method of<BR>riot-controlling, =
neither does=20
it have the means to do<BR>so. If we are to reflect back to the only=20
consignment<BR>of good riot -controlling gears that the GNA ever =
had,<BR>I=20
could remember in 1998, there were only about 200<BR>gas masks donated =
by=20
Libya. But like the ten T-54<BR>tanks and the ninety-two 35mm =
artillery pieces=20
from<BR>Egypt, the APCS, plus all your other good equipment<BR>meant =
to=20
improve your competence technically and<BR>tactically, Yaya simply =
took all of=20
them from the<BR>camps and hid them at the State House. The =
typical<BR>Mobutu=20
Style of securing himself at the expense of his<BR>nation. As ignorant =
as Yaya=20
is about the dynamics of<BR>heavy weapons however, he does not know =
that=20
after<BR>keeping those arsenals without firing or properly<BR>aligning =
them=20
for even six months they permanently<BR>lose their technical =
configurations,=20
hence rendering<BR>them useless. I may as well advise him to find=20
a<BR>junkyard and dump those tanks and artillery pieces<BR>that have =
never=20
worked and would never do again.<BR><BR>However the issue here is =
about you=20
the soldiers.<BR>Yaya is indirectly pointing his fingers to you as=20
the<BR>child killers when he was the very one who manipulated<BR>you =
into the=20
operations. And unfortunately, your<BR>leaders who should have guided =
you on=20
the operational<BR>principles of using minimum force under=20
such<BR>circumstances lacked the proper education to do so. It<BR>is =
no secret=20
that some of you, the ordinary soldiers<BR>are far better educated =
than your=20
Chief of Staff<BR>Baboucarr Jatta and Yaya Jammeh himself.=20
Nonetheless,<BR>they were the leaders you had depended on to guide =
you<BR>and=20
of course protect your actions if they turned<BR>unfavorable as in =
this=20
regrettable case. But look at<BR>them now. Yaya in particular who gave =
the=20
orders by<BR>referring to the school children as "the bastards =
who<BR>should=20
be dealt with without mercy", is now giving the<BR>impression to the =
world=20
that if he had been in the<BR>country that day he would have prevented =
you,=20
the<BR>murderers, from killing the kids. Certainly, out here,<BR>most =
of us=20
very well understand that Yaya led you into<BR>this unprecedented act, =
quite=20
unbecoming of good<BR>soldiers with the right leadership. For Yaya=20
to<BR>disassociate himself from this massacre should be<BR>termed the =
betrayal=20
of the millennium. In a war<BR>situation, leaders like him and =
Baboucarr Jatta=20
are<BR>given hasty court martial hearings and shot like =
all<BR>traitors=20
deserved.<BR><BR>But by our judgement here, we have already found=20
him<BR>guilty of two capital crimes. (1) He has ordered the<BR>murder =
of our=20
finest sons and daughters who could have<BR>been our leaders tomorrow; =
plus=20
(2) he has betrayed<BR>the security forces that acted exclusively on=20
his<BR>orders in the slaughter.<BR><BR> As a result, I urged you =
to act.=20
This is the time to<BR>get rid of Yaya Jammeh by all the means you can =
apply.<BR>Of course, some of you have already registered =
your<BR>commitment to=20
do it, which if successfully done, would<BR>be the most progressive =
and noble=20
thing you would have<BR>done for the peace-loving Gambian people. =
Gambia=20
does<BR>not deserve a person like Yaya. He has lied in =
your<BR>names,=20
killed in your names, cheated and stole in your<BR>names, humiliated =
you and=20
then in this latest<BR>incident, ordered the killing of our=20
children,<BR>brothers and sisters. Yet it is apparent =
that<BR>dictators like=20
him would foolishly refuse to accede to<BR>popular demand for them to =
step=20
down and give chance<BR>to genuine democracy to the point of their own =
perils<BR>and to the extent of even destroying the whole<BR>country. =
Anyway=20
before this retarded imbecile destroys<BR>the nation you the soldiers =
must=20
take the initiative.<BR>The removal of Yaya from that seat would be=20
the<BR>greatest service you could do for The Gambian people<BR>and =
mankind in=20
general. Yaya's killing instinct is a<BR>mental attitude. And The =
Gambia is a=20
small family,<BR>peopled by decent men and women who for =
generations<BR>would=20
not kill each other for any reason whatsoever.<BR>The more time you =
give to=20
this evil character the<BR>greater risk the Gambian people stand to =
suffer in=20
the<BR>future.<BR><BR>Remember how it was done in 1994? If the =
senior=20
ones<BR>are too timid to do it, let the junior officers do it.<BR>But =
you must=20
conduct the operation with the genuine<BR>intention of calling the =
civilians=20
to take over the<BR>political platform in the shortest possible=20
time.<BR>Between us, we all know that Yaya is not a real<BR>soldier. =
He only=20
pretends to be one when in actual<BR>fact he is the worst person in =
uniform=20
who has ever<BR>existed in your midst. How many of you have =
honestly<BR>ever=20
seen the fool firing a weapon, leading a tactical<BR>operation, =
conducting a=20
land navigation exercise or<BR>going through a BFT? The guy is false =
in that=20
uniform<BR>but has been hiding behind it with the worst=20
abuses<BR>imaginable. So GNA soldiers must realize that the =
day<BR>of=20
reckoning is quite close now, when Yaya and his<BR>cohorts would pay =
the price=20
of their evil deeds.<BR><BR>You must not allow the outside forces=20
under<BR>mobilization now to come and do it for you. History<BR>would =
not=20
forgive you for that in anyway. And most<BR>important of all, there =
are far=20
too many outstanding<BR>intellectuals waiting to come and work for the =
Gambia<BR>after the removal of Yaya the moron. Some of the best<BR>and =
finest=20
Gambian brains within or outside the<BR>country cannot be utilized =
because=20
they are humans<BR>governed by conscience and integrity. Their=20
positive<BR>characters and codes of conduct made them true =
persons<BR>who=20
would rather die than succumb to the terrorist<BR>rule of a =
semi-educated=20
tyrant. Helping the Gambian<BR>people lose Yaya therefore is a =
historical=20
obligation<BR>you must fulfil. That would not only mean rescuing =
our<BR>nation=20
at the brink of an imminent disaster but should<BR>also be the only =
acceptable=20
gesture the GNA could make<BR>to restore its former prestigious image. =
It=20
would be<BR>popular, blessed, respected and cherished =
throughout<BR>the world=20
from Africa to Europe to Asia and the<BR>Americas. Without that, be =
rest=20
assured that the<BR>members of the GNA should continue counting=20
themselves<BR>as passengers in Yaya's aircraft to hell where =
he<BR>would be=20
landing for killing our children.<BR><BR>May god bless you =
all.<BR><BR>Ebou=20
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It is amazing that people hated this government with so much passion,
that we can entertain this kind of violent recourse to take over power. It
should happen once, but not twice. From the experiences in other places, and
even what has transpired in our country, we should not condone or take such
threats lightly. If Gambians want their country to degenerate into another
sorrow situation as the likes of Liberia and Sierra Leone, we should then be
apologetic to this kind of destablizing public statements, and publicly
instilling fear in the hearts of the Gambian people. It is a psychological
warfare which can explode in our face, and mirred our country into an
irredeemable catastrophe. We were lucky once, but cannot count on being lucky
again.
Let us all try to convince ourselves, that the best approach to bring
change and lasting peace in our beautiful country, is only through
constitutional means. This is the only way. Let us trust the Gambian people,
that when the time has come for them to change their government, they surely
will. Let no one try to act for them, or on their behalf. As long as it may
take, they are bound eventually to make the right choices.
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administrators and principals of our school system. A word to the <BR>
wise is sufficient and I hope they pay hid to your call. It is <BR>
disheartening to see the government, professionals, parents, opinion <BR>
leaders, and now school administrators conducting a sidebar in broad <BR>
daylight and heap blame on the victims. I am equally appalled at how <BR>
these same groups and others in our society lament over the loss of <BR>
property at the expense of the lives lost. Every one of the lives <BR>
lost is priceless and the nation has been robbed off an <BR>
unquantifiable potential. This is a test for our nation and the <BR>
challenge is to all of us. If we pursue the avenue of greed, self-<BR>
interest, corruption, injustice and total disregard for human life, <BR>
at the expense of truth, justice, respect for life and self-<BR>
determination, then we have sold our souls to the Leviathan. This <BR>
situation is the precursor to the 2001/2 presidential elections. If <BR>
we support injustice today we will reap the crops of that planting <BR>
come 2001/2. If they can kill and lie all this time, what happens <BR>
when the stakes are higher in 2001/2? The thought of this government <BR>
loosing the elections would unleash barbarity unknown to humanity. <BR>
This government will stop at nothing to stay in power. So, the choice <BR>
is ours and the world is watching. Thanks to you and all fair-minded <BR>
people in our country. We appreciate your contributions and I hope <BR>
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I know am not motivated my hate when I advocate the overthrow of Yaya by any
means necessary. On the contrary, am motivated by a strong sense of justice.
Trying to deal with these people while adhering to norms of civilized people
just breed the kind of turmoil we experienced on April 10. What is more
constitutional and law abidding than the demonstration organized by the
students on that day??? what did they get in return???? I understand your
principled stand of none violence. But this principle has to be balanced
with the reality on the ground in Gambia. Yaya robbed the last elections in
broad daylight and nothing came out of it. Children stand up for their
constitutional rights and they are gunned down .....do you want us to go on
this path for the next 30 years????? Like I said before, after Yaya, we can
put structures in place to ensure that things like this never happen again.
If Yaya gets away with this someone else will repeat it ...and believe me
....in my book he would be pulling a fast one on all Gambians if we allow
him to rob us dry and then go retire in Kanilai immune from prosecution for
his gruesome crimes. My thing is ...even if you don't want to support the
ideas espoused by Colly, don't condemn him ....we should get rid of Yaya by
any means necessary .....same goes for any military leader that gets rid of
Yaya and then want to entrench himself into power.
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> It is amazing that people hated this government with so much passion,
>that we can entertain this kind of violent recourse to take over power. It
>should happen once, but not twice. From the experiences in other places,
>and
>even what has transpired in our country, we should not condone or take such
>threats lightly. If Gambians want their country to degenerate into another
>sorrow situation as the likes of Liberia and Sierra Leone, we should then
>be
>apologetic to this kind of destablizing public statements, and publicly
>instilling fear in the hearts of the Gambian people. It is a psychological
>warfare which can explode in our face, and mirred our country into an
>irredeemable catastrophe. We were lucky once, but cannot count on being
>lucky
>again.
>
> Let us all try to convince ourselves, that the best approach to bring
>change and lasting peace in our beautiful country, is only through
>constitutional means. This is the only way. Let us trust the Gambian
>people,
>that when the time has come for them to change their government, they
>surely
>will. Let no one try to act for them, or on their behalf. As long as it may
>take, they are bound eventually to make the right choices.
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On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Rene Badjan wrote:
> It is amazing that people hated this government with so much passion,
> that we can entertain this kind of violent recourse to take over power. It
> should happen once, but not twice.
Howdy,
Rene, I could not agree more. You have a very valid point. I think
military insurgence to dislodge Jammeh is uncalled for and it is very
irresponsible for one to even consider advocating such a measure. We can
do better. It does not make sense to dig a hole to fill a hole. There
are better ways, one of which is to increase public awareness into how
corrupt and unpatriotic the affairs of the government are being conducted.
I am sure Jammeh is not going to survive next election, that is if he did
not resign before then.
...NO MORE MILITARY UPHEAVAL IN THE GAMBIA.
Dawda Singhateh
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I can't believe the double standards being practiced by some of us on this
forum i.e. attacking ebou colley and kebba dampha for expressing their point
of views, as ex-military personnel's. As I reiterated on a different posting,
sympathetic Gambian's back home tends to understand the political quagmire,
we [especially those of us residing abroad] are faced with. We can advocate
DEMON/DIRIMOcracy, whatever Yahya would like to call it, but as long as
Gambia's best brains resides abroad and those at home leaving in droves,
Yahya will never ever leave office with the kind of electioneering
campaign/tactics we are advocating from this end. Perhaps, the recent
massacre of school children changes the equation slightly to our advantage
but, effective and maximum pressure must be applied from within and without,
including military,economic,political and dis/misinformation campaigns must
be utilized as a last resort. We cannot fool ourselves or others with some of
the confusing commentaries regarding the 1994 coup, since a whole lot of us
supported Yahya Jammeh when the military took over from Jawara....HELLO!!!
How many of us demonstrated or wrote anything critical about the military at
the onset? very few. Our way out of this is dilemma, is to identify our power
base/voting strength [$#DM, etc.]; identify our interest; compromise with our
support-base in Gambia; or else, engage in conflict. As disenfranchised
Gambians on the periphery, looking from outside-in, most of us tend to take
the simplification method of proving each theorem; GAMBIA HAS A PROBLEM,
PROBLEM IS YAHYA JAMMEH, HE MUST GO; theorem proven QED. Overnight or flight
by-night organizing/organizations impregnated by self-interest, ego-trips and
title/leadership sickness is, and will, never be our way out. Since the
adults would not lead the revolution/revelation, whatever you want to call
it, our children saved us from grace, therefore, we cannot let them down the
second time around. Many of us have forgotten where we came from, we don't
know where we are, and we fear where we may be going. Afraid, we turn from
glorious adventure of the pursuit of freedom and happiness to a pursuit of an
illusionary security in an ordered, stratified and confused society of
Gambians. May our common senses save our souls...AMEEN?
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constitutional right to ensure a free and fair elections and also <BR>
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future retirement of Yahya and his rodents. No place is far and no <BR>
shelter is secure, for we will prosecute them to the fullest. They <BR>
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Howdy,
Joe, thank you for your clear thinking. Calling for the military to
dislodge Jammeh is very irresponsible and it may even backfire against any
thing and every thing we so desperately wanted. So it should not even be
on the table for discussion. However you slice it, it just does not make
any sense at all.
Dawda Singhateh
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, joe sambou wrote:
> Kebba, thanks for your contributions to this
> discussion. I am
> equally frustrated with this regime and I
> understand your
> frustration. However, Ebou Colley and Jatta are
> not saying anything
> new. All the military thugs that ran our
> continent to the sea said
> the same thing. Remember, Jammeh also said the
> same thing. Instead
> of
> the gun, why don't they mobilize their colleagues
> and exercise their
> constitutional right to ensure a free and fair
> elections and also
> vote him out of office. This way, the cycle of
> blood letting is
> broken and innocent lives will not be lost. I am
> not worried about
> future retirement of Yahya and his rodents. No
> place is far and no
> shelter is secure, for we will prosecute them to
> the fullest. They
> know that. We should not let our emotions guide
> us, but our
> intellect. Our brothers and sisters in Senegal
> did it, we can do it
> too, with clear thinking and persistence.
>
> Lets forge ahead.
>
> Chi Jaama
>
> Joe Sambou
>
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I have read your postings with interest and I want to set the record
straight and state here that I share the same democratic ideals you have.
For the record, before anyone sent a posting advocating for the appointment
of an independent prosecutor (preferably a human rights activist from
outside The Gambia) to prosecute the perpetrators of the atrocities of April
10, I was sending emails to the list for the appointment of such an
attorney. I believe in democracy and the rule of law. At the same time, am
not insensitive to the glaring plight of the Gambians and the seeming
hopelessness of trying to get rid of Yaya through the ballot box. I do not
think that (for lack of a better characterization) the Colly camp and your
camp are mutually exclusive. But rest assured that the same kind of
detractors that tried to pit Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. against Malcolm X
would try to convince you otherwise. Nelson Mandela was not a bad person
because he advocated violence against Apartheid. In fact, he engaged in
violent acts against the South African regime. Today, he is a hero
throughout the world. Violence in this context is not the end game as it is
right now in The Gambia. It is a means to an end (restoration of democracy
in The Gambia). All I am trying to say is, drastic actions call for drastic
reactions. Believe me, I would be the first one on Colly's or anybody else's
back if they get rid of Yaya and don't want to return the country to
democracy. Yaya should be removed by any means necessary. You don't have to
agree with Colly .....but he does not deserve denunciation from you either
... not yet.
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I have read your postings with interest and I want to set the record
straight and state here that I share the same democratic ideals you have.
For the record, before anyone sent a posting advocating for the appointment
of an independent prosecutor (preferably a human rights activist from
outside The Gambia) to prosecute the perpetrators of the atrocities of April
10, I was sending emails to the list for the appointment of such an
attorney. I believe in democracy and the rule of law. At the same time, am
not insensitive to the glaring plight of the Gambians and the seeming
hopelessness of trying to get rid of Yaya through the ballot box. I do not
think that (for lack of a better characterization) the Colly camp and your
camp are mutually exclusive. But rest assured that the same kind of
detractors that tried to pit Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. against Malcolm X
would try to convince you otherwise. Nelson Mandela was not a bad person
because he advocated violence against Apartheid. In fact, he engaged in
violent acts against the South African regime. Today, he is a hero
throughout the world. Violence in this context is not the end game as it is
right now in The Gambia. It is a means to an end (restoration of democracy
in The Gambia). All I am trying to say is, drastic actions call for drastic
reactions. Believe me, I would be the first one on Colly's or anybody else's
back if they get rid of Yaya and don't want to return the country to
democracy. Yaya should be removed by any means necessary. You don't have to
agree with Colly ....but he does not deserve denunciation from you either.
....not yet.
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My Dear Joe,
I think you are missing the point. You need to
comprehend the fundamental distinction between the two
principal duties of Military and Law enforcement. I
think you have a bird's eye view of what a military
duty entails. A military's chief duties are two fold:-
(1)War-time duty and (2)Peace time duty. A War-time
duty ofcourse is to defend its national sovereignty
and all those things we rightly value as a nation.
This main function is what many people tend to view
the military with; and as a result, people like you
tend to advance a very narrow image of the military.
The second contentious duty is the peace-time duty.
Peace-time responsibility comprises of nation
building, reconstruction and building bridges,
providing health care, rescue operations disaster
relief, education and training, this is just to
mention a few. But in addition to all these, the most
paramount duty is to preserve law and order and, of
course, to act as a deterrent to any force that
impedes peace and tranquility and economic
development. What I am alluding to in the latter is
that being a military leader or civilian leader, which
ever administration tends to unfoster and impede peace
and tranquility and economic advancement must be
stopped by the PATRIOTIC MILITARY FORCES IMMEDIATELY,
and replaced by calling for ELECTIONS within THREE
MONTHS, as was the case in PASKISTAN, though the the
Paskistani Leader chose to stay; that is absolutely
wrong, and the General of Pakistan should step down
and call for free and fair elections. And this is the
case now in our BEAUTIFUL and INNOCENT COUNTRY, THE
GAMBIA.
To conclude, my argument rests on that Peace-time duty
of the military to step in, in a timely manner before
it is too late. Look at countries like RWANDA and
SIERRA LEONE and LIBERIA. Please, do not get me wrong,
the Military 's duty is not to run a country, but to
rescue a country from brink of collapse. And our
country now is on the brink of collapse. So EBOU COLLY
is absolutely right:YAYA MUST GO, and lets have peace
and tranquility restored back home.
Landing Jatta
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contributions to this discussion. I am <BR>
equally frustrated with this regime and I understand
your <BR>
frustration. However, Ebou Colley and Jatta are not
saying anything <BR>
new. All the military thugs that ran our continent to
the sea said <BR>
the same thing. Remember, Jammeh also said the same
thing. Instead <BR>
of <BR>
the gun, why don't they mobilize their colleagues and
exercise their <BR>
constitutional right to ensure a free and fair
elections and also <BR>
vote him out of office. This way, the cycle of blood
letting is <BR>
broken and innocent lives will not be lost. I am not
worried about <BR>
future retirement of Yahya and his rodents. No place
is far and no <BR>
shelter is secure, for we will prosecute them to the
fullest. They <BR>
know that. We should not let our emotions guide us,
but our <BR>
intellect. Our brothers and sisters in Senegal did
it, we can do it <BR>
too, with clear thinking and persistence. <BR>
<BR>
Lets forge ahead.<BR>
<BR>
Chi Jaama<BR>
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Region: Continent-Wide
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Summary Contents:
This is one of two postings today containing documents
related to the Education for All theme featured at the
World Education Forum (Dakar 2000), being held in Dakar,
Senegal from April 26-28, 2000. For extensive information on
the Forum see the Forum home page
(http://www2.unesco.org/wef). Information on the regional
meetings and country reports, including the 6-10 December 1999
Sub-Saharan Africa regional meeting and the 24-27 January 2000
Arab States and North Africa meeting can be found at:
http://www2.unesco.org/wef/en-leadup/regmeet.htm
Additonal related information is at:
http://www.unicef.org/efa/main.htm
The Association for the Development in Education web site is
at: http://www.adeanet.org, and includes a new database of
projects at http://prisme.adeanet.org
Later this week the APIC/ECA Electronic Roundtable will open
its fourth session, on Education and Culture, with initial
panel presentations. To sign up or to review the archive of
earlier sessions, visit the Roundtable home page
(http://www.africapolicy.org/rtable). Additional resources on
education and culture can be found on the Africa Policy web
site at:
http://www.africapolicy.org/featdocs/educ.htm
and
http://www.africapolicy.org/books/educ.htm
The other related posting today has documents from the non-
governmental Global Campaign for Education.
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EFA (Education for All) Bulletin
No. 38, Education for All in Africa
[Other articles in this issue can be found at:
http://www2.unesco.org/efa/efa_38/05no38bul.htm]
Finding African solutions to African problems
Despite the daunting challenges facing basic education in
sub-Saharan Africa, the continent is finding its own way in
education. And even though resources are limited, there no
shortage of innovation, optimism and courage.
When Evelyn Karidakai, the Liberian Minister of Education,
received the invitation to participate in the global EFA 2000
Assessment nearly two years ago, her first reaction was:
"After seven years of civil war, we have nothing to report".
But to her own surprise Liberia actually had an interesting
Education for All story to tell. Thanks to non-governmental
organizations, religious groups and communities, a number of
schools in Liberia and in refugee camps in neighbouring
countries had managed to stay open throughout the war.
Moreover, the National Teachers Association remained active so
that after the war it was ready to resume its activities and
mobilize teachers both inside and outside the country. "This
made it easier to return to normal and create an environment
for decentralization and innovations," Karidakai says.
Liberia is one of many African countries facing enormous
obstacles to realizing Education for All. Only some ten
countries in Africa are on track to achieve the education
goals they set after the World Conference on Education for All
in 1990. However, during the sub-Saharan African Conference on
Education for All, held in Johannesburg from 6 to 10 December
1999, it became clear that "all is not gloom and doom in
Africa", as one participant expressed it. Twenty-five case
studies of successful country initiatives in education were
presented at the Biennale of the Association for the
Development of Education in Africa (ADEA), which was held
during the EFA conference. These stories confirmed the scope
of innovations taking place in Africa.
"In the past ten years an unprecedented number of education
reforms, programmes and commissions have made education an
issue being discussed in buses and bars," said Gabriel
Mharadze Machinga, Minister of Education of Zimbabwe. "Now
Africa has to show commitment. Africa has to act."
An African Renaissance
Many participants pointed to renewed Afro-optimism and even an
African renaissance. They cited recent economic recovery in
certain countries, the emergence of strategies based on
popular initiatives and new political leadership.
According to the Declaration adopted at the Johannesburg
conference, "the foundation of education systems shall be
built on African values and indigenous knowledge systems aimed
at liberating children, youth and adults from mental and
psychological domination and, at the same time equipping them
with relevant knowledge, attitudes and skills for a dignified
and fulfilling life."
"We must find African solutions to African educational
problems," declared Kader Asmal, Minister of Education of
South Africa.
The EFA 2000 Assessment reveals the enormity of the challenges
facing sub-Saharan Africa.
The number of wars and internal conflicts have escalated in
the past ten years, today nearly a third of the forty-five
countries in sub-Saharan Africa are embroiled in international
or civil wars. As a result, nearly a third (some 6.5 million)
of the world's refugees live in Africa.
Meanwhile, Africa has the highest population growth rate (2,6
per cent) and the fastest urban growth rate (4,3 per cent) in
the world, intensifying problems of poverty, unemployment and
distress.
The debt burden is another major obstacle, shifting
much-needed resources from social spending to debt repayments.
Africa counts some thirty of the world's forty-two
heavily-indebted countries and many participants expressed
hope that the newly expanded Heavily Indebted Poor Countries
initiative (HIPC) will accelerate debt relief efforts to more
countries and succeed in linking debt relief to poverty
reduction. Poor governance across the continent and lack of
transparency are also cited as major problems.
"This has been aggravated by the negative impact of a global
system which is biased against third world countries, while
the HIV/AIDS pandemic has had devastating effects on
development in general and education in particular," the
Johannesburg Declaration states.
The impact on education
The forty-five African country reports prepared for the EFA
2000 Assessment show that governments have primarily focused
on expanding access to education in the past decade. While
some forty million African primary school-age children are out
of school, at least 20 million more school-age children are in
school today compared to 1990.
Countries such as Cape Verde, Malawi, Mauritius, South Africa
and Zimbabwe have achieved primary enrolment rates of 90 per
cent or more. The synthesis report prepared for the conference
indicates that government policy can have an immediate effect.
In Uganda, for example, where primary education was given free
for four children per family in 1997, enrolment doubled from
2.6 million to 5.2 million in two years.
"The best results have occurred in countries that were already
on the right track in 1990," says Pape Sow, co-author of the
synthesis report. "Countries such as Angola and the Central
African Republic, where civil strife has set the agenda, have
seen their education system stagnating or even deteriorating."
African women have still to benefit from improvements, though.
The gender gap is not any narrower, despite the fact that
girls' education now figure high on most governments' agendas.
Existing policies have been revised and new initiatives
introduced in many countries to create a girl-friendly
environment in schools. Benin introduced a bill in 1993 that
exempted girls in rural areas from paying school fees. In
Eritrea, up to 300 female teachers have been trained over the
past few years to boost girls' enrolment, and many governments
in sub-Saharan Africa are now allowing young mothers back to
school after childbirth.
"The lack of progress in closing the gender gap is mainly due
to traditional beliefs and practices," says Ko-Chih Tung,
Assessment co-ordinator in Eastern and Southern Africa. "Girls
may be expected to help look after home and siblings and
forced to marry young, or else their parents lack trust in the
education system."
Low achievements
But even the good news of increased enrolments is undermined
by the fact that 25 per cent of those who are in school
repeat. Moreover, the number of pupils dropping out before
grade 5 has been on the increase in almost half of the
countries for which data are available. "The increase of
pupils is seriously affecting the quality of education in our
schools," says the Minister of Education of Malawi, Ken
Lipenga. In Malawi, only a third of children starting school
in 1995 were expected to reach grade 5.
Providing wider access and increased quality is therefore an
inherent contradiction, as one government official pointed
out. "We broaden access to education but get low quality
because of huge class sizes and overworked teachers," she
said.
Most countries face problems in producing and distributing
relevant and appropriate textbooks and teaching materials such
as mathematical instruments or maps, and book development is
in its infancy in most countries.
Educational surveys on pupils' learning achievement carried
out in eleven African countries in 1999 indicate that
achievements in numeracy, literacy and life skills are still
below the minimum mastery level set in 1990. And there are
serious disparities both between and within individual
countries.
"African education has often tended to concentrate on elites
rather than to reach the marginalized masses of learners,"
says Vinayagum Chinapah, educational survey co-ordinator at
UNESCO. "To aggravate matters, countries have often borrowed
'standard' models of education for all which pay little or no
attention to country-specific issues."
Meeting local learning needs
Dissatisfaction with current outputs has encouraged many
countries to re-orient their education systems. Kenya, for
example, is in the process of making education more responsive
to the needs of learners by introducing more
vocationally-oriented subjects and concentrating on
disadvantaged groups, particularly girls. In Mozambique, a
democratic and participatory process is being used to develop
a new curriculum. In Mali, Chad and Togo, community schools
are successfully responding to local learning needs.
Zimbabwe, Botswana and Kenya have invested heavily in teacher
training and, despite the difficult circumstances under which
teachers often operate, they remain a priority of many
governments. On an average, 90 per cent of education budgets
are spent on teacher salaries.
Areas such as early childhood education and adult education
have received increasing attention over the decade but
progress remains limited. Early childhood care and development
still receives very little government funding. In Central and
Western Africa, for example, only 3 per cent of all children
attend pre-school activities.
Adult education, the bedrock for life-long learning, continues
to be the headache of many African governments. UNESCO
estimates that 142 million African adults are illiterate,
compared to 126 million in 1980, and some fourteen countries
continue to have illiteracy rates close to 60 and 70 per cent
of the adult population. A positive new trend is that more
women than men enrol for adult literacy classes and several
countries areestablishing literacy classes in rural clinics
and schools where women are likely to be present.
Needed: new partners
One of the crucial problems in Africa is the lack of
resources. Today, governments spend only some 2 per cent of
the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) on education. The
Johannesburg Declaration suggests that governments increase
this figure to at least 7 per cent.
However, education is no longer expected to remain the sole
responsibility of government. Virtually all countries now
advocate the need to forge alliances with multiple partners,
both external and internal. "The era of regarding civil
society purely as a tax base is giving way to one in which
everyone is a participant and problem-solver with their own
unique contribution to make," the synthesis report states.
But breaking down barriers takes time. "Non-formal and
informal education are still not in the same league as formal
education," comments Berewa Jommo of the International
Community Education Association in Kenya. "Although these
barriers are fading they still exist," she says. Together with
some fifty different African and international
non-governmental organizations, Berewa Jommo attended a
regional consultation prior to the EFA conference.
The efficiency of external funding was also criticized during
the conference. One participant pointed to an over-emphasis on
construction by both governments and donors, and a lack of
emphasis on building up the capacities of African
institutions. Another mentioned the time-consuming task of
dealing with donors: "Although external financing in education
amounts to just 2 per cent of the overall education budget,
many education ministries spend 80 per cent of their time
dealing with donor agencies. How can one effectively manage an
education system like that?" he asked.
What now?
Paul Bennell, an Africa specialist, has made one of the few
existing calculations of the challenges facing stakeholders in
Africa. "Unless government and donor funding is at least
doubled over the next fifteen years, the goal of primary
education for all by 2015 will remain unattained," he says,
referring to the goals set by the 1995 United Nations Social
Summit in Copenhagen. Many parents, he explains, do not see
education as a sound investment that directly improves
household welfare. One thing is sure: if the present low
enrollment and drop-out in Africa continue, the number of
children out of school will continue to increase.
An African framework for action to help reverse these daunting
perspectives is currently in the making. Together with the
frameworks drawn up by the five other regional EFA
conferences, it will feed into the global action framework
expected to be adopted at the World Education Forum in Dakar,
Senegal, next April.
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Region: Continent-Wide
Issue Areas: +economy/development+
Summary Contents:
This is one of two postings today containing documents
related to the Education for All theme featured at the
World Education Forum (Dakar 2000), being held in Dakar,
Senegal from April 26-28, 2000. For extensive information on
the Forum see the Forum home page
(http://www2.unesco.org/wef). Additional links are included
in the other posting today, with an article reporting on
African developments in UNESCO'S EFA Bulletin.
This posting features a statement by the non-governmental
Global Campaign for Education. Additional information on the
campaign can be found on the site of Community Aid Abroad --
Oxfam Australia (http://www.caa.org.au/oxfam/advocacy/education/news)
There is also a campaign web site
(http://www.campaignforeducation.org). Unfortunately it
features graphics-intense, hard-to-print and hard-to-read
pages, but it does have some up-to-date information on
Campaign activities at the Dakar meeting. Oxfam's 1999 paper
"Education Now: Break the Cycle of Poverty" can be found at
(http://www.caa.org.au/oxfam/advocacy/education/report).
Later this week the APIC/ECA Electronic Roundtable will open
its fourth session, on Education and Culture, with initial
panel presentations. To sign up or to review the archive of
earlier sessions, visit the Roundtable home page
(http://www.africapolicy.org/rtable). Additional resources on
education and culture can be found on the Africa Policy web
site at:
http://www.africapolicy.org/featdocs/educ.htm
and
http://www.africapolicy.org/books/educ.htm
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The World Education Forum in Dakar, success or failure?
Our bottom line position.
April 2000
The Global Campaign for Education, a coalition of civil
society organisations working on education all over the world,
has developed the following core positions on the forthcoming
World Education Forum in Dakar, drawing on regional
consultation processes (including conferences in Johannesburg,
Santa Domingo, Bangkok, Recife and Accra). We will judge the
success of the Dakar Forum on whether it achieves the
following:
1. An unequivocal commitment to free and compulsory education
as a basic right for all children up to the age of 15 by 2015.
Dakar must agree explicit statements opposing all forms of
cost-sharing and cost-recovery in basic (primary and lower
secondary) education. Where it is necessary for governments
to raise additional revenue for basic education, this should
be done through equitable and transparent forms of taxation
rather than through flat-rate fees and unregulated local
levies, which penalise the poor. There should be a direct
recognition that such approaches effectively deny poor people,
and especially girls, their right to education.
In order to ensure that the momentum towards this is
developed, Dakar should agree a commitment to providing free
basic education for all children by 2005 (i.e. removing all
direct costs of basic education by this date). There should be
a re-statement of the commitment to achieve gender parity in
basic education by 2005. There should also be clear statements
made that education is a basic right of all citizens and a key
responsibility of the State.
2. Clear and time-bound processes for countries to agree their
own targets and plans of action for achieving Education for
All goals, with binding mechanisms for civil society
participation.
The Jomtien Declaration failed in large part due to a lack of
targets that were both clear and realistic and also nationally
owned. Signatories to the Dakar Framework must commit
themselves to developing national plans of action for
education by 2002.These plans must be transparently and
democratically negotiated with all significant national
stakeholders, and set out how to achieve national education
goals within the broad framework of the 2015 targets,
and within government expenditure frameworks.
A central part of these plans should be the agreement by 2001
of clear and binding mechanisms for the ongoing democratic
participation of civil society in framing national education
strategies and increasing accountability to citizens and civil
society organisations across all levels of the education
system. An enabling environment for NGOs asnd civil society
coalitions on education is essential if they are to become
constructive partners in achieving education for all.
National action plans must demonstrate how the quality of
education will be improved, to ensure that all formal and
non-formal public education is relevant, responds to local
contexts, and achieves explicit targets for learning
achievement. National strategies should include costed and
practical steps to address the need to bring high-quality
teaching skills and active learning to every public school.
They should also include steps to create decentralised
accountability and democratic oversight at every level of the
education system, from local schools and district authorities
to provincial and national ministries. Specific attention
should be given to developing mechanisms to involve teachers,
parents and children in the management of schools.
Each national plan should include a gender audit to track
trends in and reasons for gender disparities, and the national
education plans must include explicit, costed and time-bound
proposals for removing the causes of these disparities by
2005.
3. Commitment to a Global Action Plan with clear resource
commitments by governments and donors
The Dakar Forum must agree a Global Action Plan that will
ensure that no government that is serious about education is
denied the necessary resources to achieve basic education for
all. This Plan would include a Compact for Africa to address
Africa's particular resource constraints. Such a plan would
require joint government and donor action.
Governments must commit themselves publicly to guaranteeing
their part of the necessary resources for basic education,
including increases in the proportion of GDP allocated to
basic education where necessary (e.g. to a minimum of 4% in
low-income countries). Governments should be urged to secure
increases in revenue from progressive taxation, reduce
excessive military expenditure and other unproductive
expenditures; and prioritise investment in basic education
while ensuring a balanced, poverty-focused investment in upper
secondary and higher education.
Donors must ensure that all governments that are serious about
education have access to the necessary resources to achieve
basic education for all. A key step towards this will be to
increase aid to basic education from the current level of 2%
to at least 8% of total aid budgets, to increase overall aid
budgets and to ensure that low-income countries receive an
appropriate share of aid flows. Grants and debt relief, rather
than loans, should be the main forms of finance for basic
education.
Donors should commit to increased and rapid debt relief,
improving progress of the Heavily Indebted Poor Country
initiative (HIPC2). Debt relief should add to aid flows and
not undermine them, and be linked to the national education
plans in the context of wider poverty reduction plans.
4. Clear commitments made to improving equity in the quality
of education
Poor people generally receive low quality education and
expansion of access has often led to a further loss of
quality. It is essential that quality be recognised as an
equity issue. The challenge should be to work towards equity
in quality. Governments should immediately identify and
reverse existing disparities in per capita funding which
discriminate against rural communities, ethnic minorities and
underdeveloped regions, in order to achieve equitable spending
per learner by 2005. They should further commit themselves to
delivering extra funding to meet the needs of schools in poor
and marginalised areas, in order to bring all schools up to
agreed national standards of quality by 2015 and to ensure
that curricula, teaching materials and methods are responsive
to the needs of marginalised groups..
5. Clear commitments made to improve the quality and nature of
aid to education
The quality of aid must be improved, with a greater focus on
poverty, reduced reliance on expatriate technical assistance
and increased national ownership. Most importantly, education
aid must become truly co-ordinated - with the national
education plans acting as the basis for coordinated
sector-wide budgetary support in the context of national
poverty reduction strategies.
A core code of conduct should be agreed to bind donors to
following good practices in the disbursement of aid to
education. For example, governments should have single
accountability lines rather than having to respond to multiple
and bureaucratic donor requirements. The monitoring and
control of aid programmes should be turned over to government
in partnership with civil society. Consultative Group meetings
should be held in and chaired by the host country, and civil
society groups from that country should be allowed to attend
these meetings. Aid commitments should be provided within a
medium-term framework to ease government planning and ensure
predictable resource flows. An urgent review should be
undertaken by each donor agency to determine the reasons for
non-disbursed aid and to change their own practices and
procedures to increase future rates of disbursement. Donors
should immediately abolish all procedures and requirements
that result in the tying of education aid to donor-country
goods and services, and procurement policy must be reformed to
encourage the development of local contracting. Governments
should decide what technical assistance they need and who
should provide it.
Positive changes to aid must not be contradicted or undermined
by wider institutional policies of the IMF or World Bank.
Policy advice and financial support from the IMF, World Bank
or regional development banks, must keep education in central
focus at all times. All programmes should be designed with
education as an integral part of poverty reduction and human
development. In addition to ensuring that macro-economic
policies and targets prioritise poverty reduction (e.g.
including aid grants in calculations of the fiscal deficit,
reviewing inflation targets etc.), this would also include
ensuring protection of access to basic education during
financial crisis, and support for free basic education.
6. Clear and measurable commitment made to adult literacy and
a re-statement of the vision of life-long learning.
The low priority attached to adult learning in the past decade
must be reversed, with women's literacy accorded the same high
level priority as that accorded to the education of girls. A
clear goal should be established, at least to end gender
disparities in adult literacy by 2010. A clear statement
should be made about the importance of integrating adult
literacy with wider processes of community development and
empowerment.
Since Jomtien the vision of Education For All has been reduced
in practice to "Education For School-Age Children". The
expanded vision must be asserted to prevent utilitarian
interpretations that justify investment in education only by
its knock on effects. Education is a right and that right
starts from early childhood and continues through adulthood
into old age.
7. Strategic recognition of the present and future impact of
HIV/AIDs on education and its resource implications
In the coming decade, particularly in Africa, but increasingly
across the world, HIV/AIDs will have a devastating impact on
education systems. Governments need to develop innovative
responses to ensure that children in families affected by
HIV/AIDS will not lose their access to education. Plans need
to be made now to cope with the loss of teachers and with the
new pressures on children.
8. Democratisation, decentralisation and empowerment of the
present Education For All structures and mechanisms.
The present EFA structures set up after Jomtien are too
centralised in Paris and lack legitimate representation from
southern governments or civil society. This has led to a lack
of ownership and a loss of momentum. Agreement needs to be
reached to ensure strong representation of southern
governments and civil society in international EFA structures
post-Dakar. Resources, technical expertise and monitoring of
progress also need to be decentralised with major investment
in a regional level EFA capacity, particularly for Sub-Saharan
Africa. The building up of human resources at a regional level
must be given priority - replacing the domination of
structures and processes by Northern experts and consultants.
At the same time these more representative international
structures need to be empowered. The right to education is
already enshrined in the Convention on the Rights of the Child
and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights but there are no
mechanisms for enforcing this right. National civil society
alliances with legitimate concerns should have the right to
call for the international EFA structures to investigate cases
where there are clear violations of the right to education.
The EFA structures should then have the power to call for an
investigation by the UN Special Rapporteur on Education or the
regional Human Rights Commissions. If these find against a
government they can call for sanctions.
9. A commitment to a mid-term global review and a possible
official UN Conference.
A comprehensive review should be planned for 2006 to identify
progress against the major international targets on education.
Both national and donor action plans should specify mid-term
targets for each EFA goal, and specify explicit additional
resourcing and contingency commitments if these targets are
missed. If the mid-term review shows that a substantial number
of countries continue to be off-track then an official UN
Conference on Education with Heads of State should be convened
for 2010 at the latest. This would help to catalyse the
additional momentum that would clearly be needed with just
five years to go to 2015.
THE GLOBAL CAMPAIGN FOR EDUCATION CALLS FOR THE FOLLOWING
FROM THE WORLD EDUCATION FORUM IN DAKAR:
1. An unequivocal commitment to free education as a basic
right for all children up to the age of 15 by 2015;
2. Agreement on clear and time-bound follow up processes at a
national level, with binding mechanisms for civil society
participation;
3. Commitment to a global action plan with clear resource
commitments by governments and donors;
4. Clear commitments to be made to improving equity in the
quality of education;
5. Clear commitments to improving the quality and nature of
aid to education;
6. A clear and measurable commitment to adult literacy and a
re-statement of the vision of life-long learning;
7. A strategic recognition of the present and future impact of
HIV/AIDs on education;
8. The democratisation, decentralisation and empowerment of
the Education For All structures and mechanisms;
9. A commitment to a mid-term global review and a possible
official UN Conference with Heads of State in 2010.
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Washington DC April 25, a group of Gambians mostly from the Washington
Metropolitan Area, staged a demonstration at The Gambian embassy. In the wake
of the student demonstration in The Gambia, which left 12 dead including a
Red Cross volunteer and scores wounded, Gambians in the diaspora have been
expressing their disgust and total outrage in the form of petitions, protest
marches, telephone calls to condemn the atrocities committed by the Jammeh
administration. 32 Gambians, including 4 from Georgia, 1 from North Carolina,
and 1 from California participated in todays protest.
At the beginning of the protest, 2 Secret Service Agents ( from the uniform
division ) on scooters asked how long we planned to stay and then they helped
themselves with coffee and donuts and took position watching our every move.
It was cold and raining ' cats and dogs ' , but we stood our ground, formed a
circle and chanting for an hour, exposing " His Holiness's " regime or
whatever is left of it and then 22 of us went upstairs to deliver a petition
and to seek an audience with Ambassador Bojang.
Approximately 12:05 pm, we entered suite 1000 and asked to speak to the
Ambassador. Consular Juwara emerged and led us to the conference room.
Needless to say, it was a ' full house ' . According to Mr. Juwara,
Ambassador Bojang was out attending a book fair. Barely 5 mins. into the
meeting before you could say " PA SEY ", the Feds ( secret service agents ) a
dozen of them appeared everywhere. After a word with the embassy officials,
they stood patiently in the receptionist's office. Apart from the exhange of
words between a protestor and the commanding officer ( a lady ), both sides
exercised a great deal of restraint ------- in total contrast to what
happened in The Gambia. All the speakers condemned in very strong terms, the
Jammeh administration for its poor Human Rights record, most notably the
recent student massacre. Mr. Juwara was informed of our intention to occupy
and disrupt all services in the embassy unless and until we meet with the
Ambassador. That we were ready to be arrested and charged with a misdemeanour
( punishable by a fine of $ 50.00 ). An hour into the meeting with Consular
Juwara, Ambassador Bojang was seen talking to the Feds. Mr. Juwara then
excused himself to talk to Mr. Bojang or what I'd call a 3 min. briefing.
Both men then came to the conference room. We re-iterated our position : That
we came to demonstrate our solidarity and support for GAMSU; That our
petition be transmitted in its entirety.
The meeting with ' His Excellency ' was raucous at some point as tempers
flared, but it ended peacefully. Ambassador Bojang was given our petition and
he promised to follow " Protocol " and send it immediately.
The turnout was good ( 32 ). We had anticipated a larger crowd, but due to
the inclement weather condition, many thought the demonstration was
cancelled. Thank God, we weren't out there to vote, but to deliver a message.
Hence, our " friends " on the other side can't down play the significance of
the protest by playing the numbers game. During the meeting, a gentleman
sitting next to me using his cell phone, called his wife's doctor to re -
schedule an appointment. He said succinctly, " This's history in the making
and I wouldn't want to miss a minute ... Coming here is the least I could do.
The real Jambarrs are in The Gambia ".
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Folks,
Heinous and regrettable as this latest killing of our school children =
and future leaders maybe, let us all remember that joy, joy is better =
than war, war. Hence, let us adopt a more civil and democratic =
("democracy" the watch word) means at our disposal to effect any change =
of government in Africa should we so desire.
God bless The Gambia and may the departed's soul in perfect peace.
OB.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Prince Obrien-Coker=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: 25 April 2000 14:39 PM
Subject: Re: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
Go get him Ebou, bloodlessly, if possible, but by any means JAMMEH =
MUST GO!!
=20
Prince Coker
----- Original Message -----=20
From: ebou colly=20
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 5:41 AM
Subject: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
Soldiers of the Gambia Army it is indeed a reassuring
feeling to learn that there are some of you who have
totally regretted the killing of the innocent children
you were forced to shoot by Yaya. And most of you have
also realized that the despot is making all efforts to
shift the blame on you. Anyway after clearing his
image, he would then as usual send few bulls with a
couple of thousand Dalasis to each of your camps for f
you to feast on and praise him as the good leader. You
will understand what I am exactly telling you. Anyway
just remember that your hands have been soiled by
children's blood.
It is however understandable that you were
inadequately equipped, under prepared, misled and
misinformed that sad day. In the first place you all
know how Yaya has been systematically undermining the
efficiency of the GNA through a deliberate conspiracy
of robbing you of the right equipment, the right
talents and the proper training. And those elite
vampires, freeloaders, and patronage junkies lying all
over to protect their perks and benefits have only
made things look uglier. The bottom line up front was
that you were sent out that day to control a riot
situation which none of you were ever trained or
prepared to handle in your military careers. In the
first place Ak47 assault rifles should not have been
issued for that civil disturbance operation at all,
let alone arming the security forces with them. On the
other hand I can understand why they were issued,
because there are nothing in your armories to equip
yourselves with for the assignment. That was the first
step to the disaster that later unfolded in the
operation.
Lets be frank to each other, the GNA does not in
anyway understand the proper method of
riot-controlling, neither does it have the means to do
so. If we are to reflect back to the only consignment
of good riot -controlling gears that the GNA ever had,
I could remember in 1998, there were only about 200
gas masks donated by Libya. But like the ten T-54
tanks and the ninety-two 35mm artillery pieces from
Egypt, the APCS, plus all your other good equipment
meant to improve your competence technically and
tactically, Yaya simply took all of them from the
camps and hid them at the State House. The typical
Mobutu Style of securing himself at the expense of his
nation. As ignorant as Yaya is about the dynamics of
heavy weapons however, he does not know that after
keeping those arsenals without firing or properly
aligning them for even six months they permanently
lose their technical configurations, hence rendering
them useless. I may as well advise him to find a
junkyard and dump those tanks and artillery pieces
that have never worked and would never do again.
However the issue here is about you the soldiers.
Yaya is indirectly pointing his fingers to you as the
child killers when he was the very one who manipulated
you into the operations. And unfortunately, your
leaders who should have guided you on the operational
principles of using minimum force under such
circumstances lacked the proper education to do so. It
is no secret that some of you, the ordinary soldiers
are far better educated than your Chief of Staff
Baboucarr Jatta and Yaya Jammeh himself. Nonetheless,
they were the leaders you had depended on to guide you
and of course protect your actions if they turned
unfavorable as in this regrettable case. But look at
them now. Yaya in particular who gave the orders by
referring to the school children as "the bastards who
should be dealt with without mercy", is now giving the
impression to the world that if he had been in the
country that day he would have prevented you, the
murderers, from killing the kids. Certainly, out here,
most of us very well understand that Yaya led you into
this unprecedented act, quite unbecoming of good
soldiers with the right leadership. For Yaya to
disassociate himself from this massacre should be
termed the betrayal of the millennium. In a war
situation, leaders like him and Baboucarr Jatta are
given hasty court martial hearings and shot like all
traitors deserved.
But by our judgement here, we have already found him
guilty of two capital crimes. (1) He has ordered the
murder of our finest sons and daughters who could have
been our leaders tomorrow; plus (2) he has betrayed
the security forces that acted exclusively on his
orders in the slaughter.
As a result, I urged you to act. This is the time to
get rid of Yaya Jammeh by all the means you can apply.
Of course, some of you have already registered your
commitment to do it, which if successfully done, would
be the most progressive and noble thing you would have
done for the peace-loving Gambian people. Gambia does
not deserve a person like Yaya. He has lied in your
names, killed in your names, cheated and stole in your
names, humiliated you and then in this latest
incident, ordered the killing of our children,
brothers and sisters. Yet it is apparent that
dictators like him would foolishly refuse to accede to
popular demand for them to step down and give chance
to genuine democracy to the point of their own perils
and to the extent of even destroying the whole
country. Anyway before this retarded imbecile destroys
the nation you the soldiers must take the initiative.
The removal of Yaya from that seat would be the
greatest service you could do for The Gambian people
and mankind in general. Yaya's killing instinct is a
mental attitude. And The Gambia is a small family,
peopled by decent men and women who for generations
would not kill each other for any reason whatsoever.
The more time you give to this evil character the
greater risk the Gambian people stand to suffer in the
future.
Remember how it was done in 1994? If the senior ones
are too timid to do it, let the junior officers do it.
But you must conduct the operation with the genuine
intention of calling the civilians to take over the
political platform in the shortest possible time.
Between us, we all know that Yaya is not a real
soldier. He only pretends to be one when in actual
fact he is the worst person in uniform who has ever
existed in your midst. How many of you have honestly
ever seen the fool firing a weapon, leading a tactical
operation, conducting a land navigation exercise or
going through a BFT? The guy is false in that uniform
but has been hiding behind it with the worst abuses
imaginable. So GNA soldiers must realize that the day
of reckoning is quite close now, when Yaya and his
cohorts would pay the price of their evil deeds.
You must not allow the outside forces under
mobilization now to come and do it for you. History
would not forgive you for that in anyway. And most
important of all, there are far too many outstanding
intellectuals waiting to come and work for the Gambia
after the removal of Yaya the moron. Some of the best
and finest Gambian brains within or outside the
country cannot be utilized because they are humans
governed by conscience and integrity. Their positive
characters and codes of conduct made them true persons
who would rather die than succumb to the terrorist
rule of a semi-educated tyrant. Helping the Gambian
people lose Yaya therefore is a historical obligation
you must fulfil. That would not only mean rescuing our
nation at the brink of an imminent disaster but should
also be the only acceptable gesture the GNA could make
to restore its former prestigious image. It would be
popular, blessed, respected and cherished throughout
the world from Africa to Europe to Asia and the
Americas. Without that, be rest assured that the
members of the GNA should continue counting themselves
as passengers in Yaya's aircraft to hell where he
would be landing for killing our children.
May god bless you all.
Ebou Colly
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Heinous and regrettable as this latest =
killing of=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>God bless The Gambia and may the =
departed's soul in=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OB.</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
[log in to unmask]>Prince Obrien-Coker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
=
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</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 25 April 2000 14:39 =
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: SOLDIERS OF THE =
GAMBIA=20
ARMY</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Go get him Ebou, bloodlessly, if =
possible, but by=20
any means JAMMEH MUST GO!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Prince Coker</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" [log in to unmask]>ebou =
colly</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
=
[log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A>=
=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 25, 2000 =
5:41=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> SOLDIERS OF THE =
GAMBIA=20
ARMY</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY<BR><BR><BR>Soldiers of =
the Gambia=20
Army it is indeed a reassuring<BR>feeling to learn that there are =
some of=20
you who have<BR>totally regretted the killing of the innocent=20
children<BR>you were forced to shoot by Yaya. And most of you =
have<BR>also=20
realized that the despot is making all efforts to<BR>shift the blame =
on=20
you. Anyway after clearing his<BR>image, he would then as =
usual send=20
few bulls with a<BR>couple of thousand Dalasis to each of your camps =
for=20
f<BR>you to feast on and praise him as the good leader. You<BR>will=20
understand what I am exactly telling you. Anyway<BR>just remember =
that your=20
hands have been soiled by<BR>children's blood.<BR><BR> It is =
however=20
understandable that you were<BR>inadequately equipped, under =
prepared,=20
misled and<BR>misinformed that sad day. In the first place you =
all<BR>know=20
how Yaya has been systematically undermining the<BR>efficiency of =
the GNA=20
through a deliberate conspiracy<BR>of robbing you of the right =
equipment,=20
the right<BR>talents and the proper training. And those =
elite<BR>vampires,=20
freeloaders, and patronage junkies lying all<BR>over to protect =
their perks=20
and benefits have only<BR>made things look uglier. The bottom =
line up=20
front was<BR>that you were sent out that day to control a =
riot<BR>situation=20
which none of you were ever trained or<BR>prepared to handle in your =
military careers. In the<BR>first place Ak47 assault rifles should =
not have=20
been<BR>issued for that civil disturbance operation at all,<BR>let =
alone=20
arming the security forces with them. On the<BR>other hand I can =
understand=20
why they were issued,<BR>because there are nothing in your armories =
to=20
equip<BR>yourselves with for the assignment. That was the =
first<BR>step to=20
the disaster that later unfolded in the<BR>operation.<BR><BR>Lets be =
frank=20
to each other, the GNA does not in<BR>anyway understand the proper =
method=20
of<BR>riot-controlling, neither does it have the means to do<BR>so. =
If we=20
are to reflect back to the only consignment<BR>of good riot =
-controlling=20
gears that the GNA ever had,<BR>I could remember in 1998, there were =
only=20
about 200<BR>gas masks donated by Libya. But like the ten =
T-54<BR>tanks and=20
the ninety-two 35mm artillery pieces from<BR>Egypt, the APCS, plus =
all your=20
other good equipment<BR>meant to improve your competence technically =
and<BR>tactically, Yaya simply took all of them from the<BR>camps =
and hid=20
them at the State House. The typical<BR>Mobutu Style of securing =
himself at=20
the expense of his<BR>nation. As ignorant as Yaya is about the =
dynamics=20
of<BR>heavy weapons however, he does not know that after<BR>keeping =
those=20
arsenals without firing or properly<BR>aligning them for even six =
months=20
they permanently<BR>lose their technical configurations, hence=20
rendering<BR>them useless. I may as well advise him to find =
a<BR>junkyard=20
and dump those tanks and artillery pieces<BR>that have never worked =
and=20
would never do again.<BR><BR>However the issue here is about you the =
soldiers.<BR>Yaya is indirectly pointing his fingers to you as =
the<BR>child=20
killers when he was the very one who manipulated<BR>you into the =
operations.=20
And unfortunately, your<BR>leaders who should have guided you on the =
operational<BR>principles of using minimum force under =
such<BR>circumstances=20
lacked the proper education to do so. It<BR>is no secret that some =
of you,=20
the ordinary soldiers<BR>are far better educated than your Chief of=20
Staff<BR>Baboucarr Jatta and Yaya Jammeh himself. =
Nonetheless,<BR>they were=20
the leaders you had depended on to guide you<BR>and of course =
protect your=20
actions if they turned<BR>unfavorable as in this regrettable case. =
But look=20
at<BR>them now. Yaya in particular who gave the orders =
by<BR>referring to=20
the school children as "the bastards who<BR>should be dealt with =
without=20
mercy", is now giving the<BR>impression to the world that if he had =
been in=20
the<BR>country that day he would have prevented you, =
the<BR>murderers, from=20
killing the kids. Certainly, out here,<BR>most of us very well =
understand=20
that Yaya led you into<BR>this unprecedented act, quite unbecoming =
of=20
good<BR>soldiers with the right leadership. For Yaya =
to<BR>disassociate=20
himself from this massacre should be<BR>termed the betrayal of the=20
millennium. In a war<BR>situation, leaders like him and Baboucarr =
Jatta=20
are<BR>given hasty court martial hearings and shot like =
all<BR>traitors=20
deserved.<BR><BR>But by our judgement here, we have already found=20
him<BR>guilty of two capital crimes. (1) He has ordered =
the<BR>murder of our=20
finest sons and daughters who could have<BR>been our leaders =
tomorrow; plus=20
(2) he has betrayed<BR>the security forces that acted exclusively on =
his<BR>orders in the slaughter.<BR><BR> As a result, I urged =
you to=20
act. This is the time to<BR>get rid of Yaya Jammeh by all the means =
you can=20
apply.<BR>Of course, some of you have already registered =
your<BR>commitment=20
to do it, which if successfully done, would<BR>be the most =
progressive and=20
noble thing you would have<BR>done for the peace-loving Gambian =
people.=20
Gambia does<BR>not deserve a person like Yaya. He has lied in=20
your<BR>names, killed in your names, cheated and stole in =
your<BR>names,=20
humiliated you and then in this latest<BR>incident, ordered the =
killing of=20
our children,<BR>brothers and sisters. Yet it is apparent =
that<BR>dictators=20
like him would foolishly refuse to accede to<BR>popular demand for =
them to=20
step down and give chance<BR>to genuine democracy to the point of =
their own=20
perils<BR>and to the extent of even destroying the whole<BR>country. =
Anyway=20
before this retarded imbecile destroys<BR>the nation you the =
soldiers must=20
take the initiative.<BR>The removal of Yaya from that seat would be=20
the<BR>greatest service you could do for The Gambian people<BR>and =
mankind=20
in general. Yaya's killing instinct is a<BR>mental attitude. And The =
Gambia=20
is a small family,<BR>peopled by decent men and women who for=20
generations<BR>would not kill each other for any reason =
whatsoever.<BR>The=20
more time you give to this evil character the<BR>greater risk the =
Gambian=20
people stand to suffer in the<BR>future.<BR><BR>Remember how it was =
done in=20
1994? If the senior ones<BR>are too timid to do it, let the =
junior=20
officers do it.<BR>But you must conduct the operation with the=20
genuine<BR>intention of calling the civilians to take over =
the<BR>political=20
platform in the shortest possible time.<BR>Between us, we all know =
that Yaya=20
is not a real<BR>soldier. He only pretends to be one when in =
actual<BR>fact=20
he is the worst person in uniform who has ever<BR>existed in your =
midst. How=20
many of you have honestly<BR>ever seen the fool firing a weapon, =
leading a=20
tactical<BR>operation, conducting a land navigation exercise =
or<BR>going=20
through a BFT? The guy is false in that uniform<BR>but has been =
hiding=20
behind it with the worst abuses<BR>imaginable. So GNA soldiers =
must=20
realize that the day<BR>of reckoning is quite close now, when Yaya =
and=20
his<BR>cohorts would pay the price of their evil deeds.<BR><BR>You =
must not=20
allow the outside forces under<BR>mobilization now to come and do it =
for=20
you. History<BR>would not forgive you for that in anyway. And=20
most<BR>important of all, there are far too many=20
outstanding<BR>intellectuals waiting to come and work for the=20
Gambia<BR>after the removal of Yaya the moron. Some of the =
best<BR>and=20
finest Gambian brains within or outside the<BR>country cannot be =
utilized=20
because they are humans<BR>governed by conscience and integrity. =
Their=20
positive<BR>characters and codes of conduct made them true =
persons<BR>who=20
would rather die than succumb to the terrorist<BR>rule of a =
semi-educated=20
tyrant. Helping the Gambian<BR>people lose Yaya therefore is a =
historical=20
obligation<BR>you must fulfil. That would not only mean rescuing=20
our<BR>nation at the brink of an imminent disaster but =
should<BR>also be the=20
only acceptable gesture the GNA could make<BR>to restore its former=20
prestigious image. It would be<BR>popular, blessed, respected and =
cherished=20
throughout<BR>the world from Africa to Europe to Asia and =
the<BR>Americas.=20
Without that, be rest assured that the<BR>members of the GNA should =
continue=20
counting themselves<BR>as passengers in Yaya's aircraft to hell =
where=20
he<BR>would be landing for killing our children.<BR><BR>May god =
bless you=20
all.<BR><BR>Ebou=20
=
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:07:16 -0700
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Do not let them turn you mean, Kebba, though I
understand the anger . . .
If they want your clothes, let them have them
If they want your shoes, them them have them
If they demand your blood, let it bleed
But if they want you dignity, they must not have it
If you must fall as we all may, never fall upon your
knees
****Longspear***
--- Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Since I joined the list, I have read your postings
> with interest and admired
> some of your invaluable contributions. I don't think
> anyone on the list or
> who follows your activities vis-a-vis the Gambian
> community doubt your
> sincerity in wanting to bring about change in The
> Gambia in a peaceful and
> democratic way. I commend your efforts with Senator
> Feingold. Having said
> that, I wish to lodge my disagreement with some of
> the methods you advance
> for getting rid of Yaya. In particular, I take issue
> with your denunciation
> of Colley and Jatta for advocating that Yaya should
> be removed by all means
> necessary. To further your argument, you tried to
> make a distinction between
> the use of force and the treat of force in Yaya's
> overthrow of Jawara. I
> think that was just semantics. The truth of the
> matter is, Yaya used
> unconstitutional means to overthrow a democratically
> elected government at a
> time when Gambians had a better opportunity to get
> rid of the government
> through a free and fair election. Am sure some
> people will take issue with
> my last assertion. So I want to save their time by
> just stating a few facts
> here. At a later date, I can debate anyone who want
> to convince me that we
> couldn't have removed Jawara through elections.
> Wade's recent elections
> victory in Senegal shows that the benefits of
> incumbency are surmountable by
> effective opposition persevering over the years.
> Secondly, I have seen top
> PPP candidates lose elections in The Gambia.
> Moreover, the PPP candidates
> would petition the courts to overturn elections of
> opposition candidates and
> still lose those petitions. That's all I would say
> here and would challenge
> anyone who want to tell me that elections were not
> free and fair in Gambia
> before Yaya. Right after Yaya took over, I was in
> The Gambia and watched in
> amazement as PhDs in The U.S. blinded by their
> hatred for Jawara jumped on
> the Yaya bandwagon and condoned the changes. Don't
> get me wrong. I don't
> like the Jawara regime either and was saddened by
> the fact that cronies like
> Saihou Sabally begged him to return to politics
> after he decided to retire.
> In my humble opinion, this was the beginning of the
> end of peace and
> tranquillity in our beloved country. Going back to
> the issue at hand, I know
> it is unfortunate to have to resort to advocating
> the use of force in order
> to remove Yaya. I share your sentiments here which
> is why I consistently
> opposed the Yaya regime from the first day they took
> over the country. But
> apart from the fact that Yaya has to be taught a
> lesson, now more than ever,
> it is virtually impossible to get rid of Yaya
> through constitutional means.
> Look at Sierra Leone for instance. Giving Mada Biyo
> a big pension and asylum
> in the United States did not do much, if anything
> for the Sierra Leoneans.
> What you had, was another gang taking over the
> government and demanding to
> be given scholarships to go abroad and study. That's
> the mentality of these
> people. They are prepared to do anything if they
> know they can get away with
> it. Laws of nature teaches us that with patience and
> perseverance,
> everything comes to an end. I have no doubt in my
> mind that Yaya will meet a
> brutal end in The Gambia. But believe me ….if he
> knows that he can kill and
> torture people and steal money from the country and
> retire to Kanilai
> without punishment, he will continue the murder
> spree. People like Colly and
> Jatta are needed in order to keep Yaya a little
> honest. They give him
> sleepless nights which our rhetoric and emails and
> petitions cannot do in a
> million years. So I say …..don't condemn Colly and
> Jatta or people who
> espouse their views. And lastly, what Yaya did on
> July 22, 1994 should be
> condemned in no uncertain terns. No academic
> justification should be sought
> for it. Let's call a spade a spade. Taking over the
> government the way he
> did was wrong. The only reason people weren't killed
> was because the
> Americans evacuated Jawara to their military vessel
> and he agreed to go
> without trying to fight back. It was not because
> Yaya and his gang were
> peace lovers or deserve credit for the lack of
> bloodshed. Again, I hold no
> brief for the Jawara regime. But I think people like
> Colly and Jatta should
> not be condemned for advocating the removal of Yaya
> by all means necessary.
>
> >From: "Katim S. Touray" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
> >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:40:48 -0700
> >
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >Despite the fact that I REALLY should be going to
> bed, I decided to send in
> >a comment or two about this e-mail I'm replying to,
> and also others that
> >preceeded it.
> >
> >First, I'm alarmed by the following, and previous
> e-mail messages from
> >Landing Jatta, as well as Mr. Ebou Colly. While I
> whole-heartedly endorse
> >their calls for President Jammeh to go, I am firmly
> opposed to the idea
> >that
> >once again, we have to force to efffect change in
> our country. We should
> >have known that almost all benefits that came our
> way by virtue of Jammeh
> >overthrowing Jawara (not by force, but by the
> threat of it) would be wiped
> >away by the constant possibility that many other
> soldiers would take their
> >cueue from him, and do like him, whenever they got
> dissatisfied. It seems
> >that postings from these two are tell-tale signs of
> rumblings that cannot
> >be
> >encouraged.
> >
> >Without a doubt, the military and their sister
> agencies can have a role in
> >ending the Jammeh government. However, the best
> service they can render
> >our
> >country would not be to cause more bloodshed (no
> matter whose blood) but to
> >make sure that President Jammeh would NEVER be able
> to use them to
> >terrorize
> >our citizenry, and even kill them. I think if we
> ever get to the stage
> >where Jammeh knows that he cannot count on his
> troops to execute his
> >inhumane orders (whether they are issue directly or
> indirectly) we then
> >would be at the dawn of a new era in The Gambia.
> >
> >Given the above, I think efforts at involving
> Gambian security forces in
> >working toward the end of the Jammeh government
> should be along more
> >creative and less traditional lines. First, they
> have families, and as
> >such
> >we can work toward reaching out to the general
> population to constantly
> >work
> >on convincing their relatives in the Army and
> Security forces that they
> >should never again be used by Jammeh to kill
> people, improperly imprison
> >them, or harass them. Such a campaign can be
> one-on-one, private (between
> >relatives), and certainly beyond the reach of
> Jammeh and his people.
> >
> >Second, I am very interested in the idea of making
> the security forces
> >realize that their long-term interests cannot be
> met by Jammeh. For
> >example, when a global lobbying campaign against
> Jammeh is launched, it
> >should also include a component that targets the
> perks and previlidges of
> >the security forces. This way, they will be made
> to realize that they
> >cannot enjoy the good life (at least not for long)
> as
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:36:14 -0400
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Subject: Re: Letter to the Principals and Headmasters: What more can we
say?
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Halifa,
You have virtually said it all. What more can we say? But only hope that
common sense and fair play prevail among the stakeholders in the handling of
the unfortunate 10 and 11 April incident hereafter.
God bless us all.
OB.
obsilla
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From: foroyaa <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: 25 April 2000 5:16 AM
Subject: Letter to the Principals and Headmasters
> LETTER TO THE PRINCIPALS AND HEADMASTERS
> The Demand for Principles and Professionalism
>
> Gambian society is in a state of flux. Each change comes with its demands
> and priorities. Such changes call for fundamental alteration in priorities
> and decisions, without which our conduct would be ill-suited for what the
> situation demands.
>
> The issues which now confront the educational system transcend what is
> customary. It is, therefore, absolutely essential that the situation is
> approached with caution and maturity. As administrators of the school
> system, it is your duty to take into consideration the diverse and
> conflicting opinions which are being transmitted regarding the events of
10
> and 11 April 2000 before taking a final posture.
>
> Already attempts are being made by officials of the State to draw you to
> accept a given interpretation of what transpired. We have read reports in
> the Government press indicating that what happened on 10 and 11 April 2000
> is a manifestation of a school system which is breeding vagabonds, bandits
> and criminals. There are insinuations that rebels using the guise of
> students have utilised the cloak of liberty and human rights in order to
> deliver catastrophe upon the society. There is call for the identification
> of leaders for disciplinary action; that principals and headmasters should
> take the posture of disciplinarians so as to prevent the recurrence of
such
> actions in the future.
>
> It is unfortunate that such statements would feature at a time when people
> in position of public trust should be sensitive to the unique
> responsibilities of their office. There is absolutely no doubt that the
> statements constitute an oversimplification of the true picture of the
> situation that prevailed on 10 and 11 April 2000.
>
> What is required at this juncture is to give weight to all suggestions
that
> would help to give appropriate consideration to all perspectives so that
we
> will be able to map out what the circumstances demand.
>
> The diverging views that are being expressed suggest the difficulty in
> assigning accurate weights to the different claims that are being made
> regarding the cause of the incident of 10 and 11 April 2000. The evidence
> that we have been able to gather, though still limited, have shown the
> catastrophic pitfalls which may have given rise to the devastation which
> occurred on 10 and 11 April 2000. A careful reading of such evidence
would
> render the charge as baseless that criminal tendencies within the school
> system are to blame for the crisis.
>
> It is elementary knowledge that the students were reacting to tendencies
to
> abuse authority and honour human values with disregard which led to the
> killing of Ebrima Barry and the raping of a school girl. In actual fact,
the
> initial actions of the students were geared towards combating the
tendencies
> that they are being accused of displaying. What can be more criminal than
to
> perpetrate murder or rape? What can be more just than to call for action
to
> apprehend and try the perpetrators?
>
> It is important that in dealing with this sensitive issue that you do not
> pass judgment without compelling evidence to back it. The future of the
> school system lies in your very hands. You are the pillars of the
education
> system. The degree of your sense of professionalism and devotion to
> principles will determine whether the educational system stands firm in
the
> face of the present challenge or crumbles.
>
> In many countries today, the school systems are hardly functional because
of
> crisis. The Gambian school system is not paralysed because of strikes by
> teachers for higher wages; or strikes by students for more allowances. The
> crisis which engulfs the Gambian school system is due to the desire of
> Gambian children for justice to be done and be seen to be done. They are
> struggling for a decent society free from arbitrary arrest, torture and
> rape.
>
> If those who govern the affairs of this country were sensitive to their
> unique responsibilities, they would not have transformed peaceful
> demonstrators into outlaws. What happened at GTTI is yet to be told. A
> Coroner's Inquest is under the way. A Commission of Enquiry will follow.
It
> is, therefore, best to leave the facts to come from the people themselves.
> We have no doubt that what happened at GTTI is the mother of the
devastation
> which occurred thereafter.
>
> All of you know that the Gambian school system simply requires leadership
to
> take the direction that would ensure that the educational institutions
serve
> their primary purpose of developing the powers of the minds of our
children,
> accord them with the skills and knowledge necessary to play their part in
> the general division of labour in our society as well as impart in them
the
> standards of behaviour that are reasonably justifiable in a democratic and
> independent country.
>
> Many diplomats have never failed to be amazed by the quality of debates in
> our school system. Peer group educators are everywhere; young people are
> becoming orators. The yearning for information and knowledge is the order
of
> the day. Gambia is certainly not raising vagabonds and criminals in our
> school system. They are raising young people who are no longer mere robots
> to be programmed, indoctrinated and tele-guided. They are thinking young
> people who have to be convinced, inspired and moved by self-imposed
> discipline.
> It is important to convey to you that the school system has not suffered a
> breakdown. It should not be drawn into the crisis. It is the security
> apparatus which has suffered a breakdown. It is this breakdown which is
> holding the school system as hostage. Authorities fear that the opening of
> schools could lead to the reorganisation of the students. The students
have
> nothing against their teachers and principals. You must not allow anyone
to
> drive a wedge between you and your students.
>
> The situation which confronts the regime is not a complex one. What it
needs
> to do is to simply release all students, hold no trials, allow the
Coroner's
> Inquest and commission of enquiry to proceed and then act on the
> recommendations. The schools will easily return to normalcy if such an
> approach is taken.
>
> The most you can do is to hold parent teachers meetings and inform the
> parents that the school system will strive top meet their expectations if
> they get their cooperation.
>
> What the school system needs are not autocrats taking the guise of
> disciplinarians. What are needed are professional school administrators
> whose minds have been imparted with noble visions of justice, democracy,
> freedom; school administrators who can show concern for the children,
> inspire them to have a sense of belonging to the institutions; to have a
> sense of ownership of public property; to have love for their country and
> people and to rise to a level where they could even turn their backs to
> their own personal interests in order to promote the national interest.
>
> There is no doubt that the movement which emerged in defence of Ebrima
Barry
> and Binta Manneh has that symbolic value. The cause was a moral one. The
> response defeated the cause. Herein lies the root of the problem.
>
> As administrators, it is your duty to examine the demands of the situation
> and give appropriate response to them. The current trend is for the
> President to appease the people by giving a speech without uttering any
> condemnation, visiting the hospital and sending delegations to the
families
> of the deceased while religious leaders, opinion leaders and others are
> reported to be uttering condemnations. No person of principles should
> acquiesce to such an agenda of shifting blames to the victims.
>
> We have confidence you will not be the type of head teachers and
principals
> who would establish draconian codes of conduct which could be relied on to
> arbitrarily expel and suspend children and deprive them of a future? What
> type of future society would you be building by adopting such measures?
Can
> a society survive on hate and vengeance? Are the signs in the world not
> clear enough that what we need is to promote a sense of community; a sense
> of concern for each other's problems? What has given rise to small
children
> taking guns and going to their schools to slaughter their teachers and
their
> fellow students in the United States?
>
> In The Gambia, it was students coming together to call on the authorities
to
> investigate the death and raping of their fellow students. Who needs
cure -
> the students or the system? Who needs indictment - the students or the
> system?
>
> It has long been a tradition for those who manage public affairs to assume
> ownership of public institutions. In actual fact, public institutions are
> properties of the people. The schools are built by the tax money of the
> people. All public officers are paid by the people. Headmasters and
> principals should, therefore, see themselves as employees of the people.
> Governments come and go, but the public service remains. The standards
that
> should be built should not be ones which are based on the whims and
caprices
> of a government, but ones that suit the needs and aspirations of the
people.
>
> The headmasters and principles should not see the government as sovereign.
> They should see the people as sovereign.
>
> What is essential during this critical moment is for the security forces,
> the students, the government and the school administrators and teachers to
> critically analyse what really happened and how each behaved during such
> critical moment.
>
> We hope that you, the administrators of the educational institution, will
> engage in such conduct that would prevent the possibility of circumstances
> as had prevailed on 10 and 11 April 2000 from recurring in the future. You
> have the primary responsibility to ensure that your credibility is not
> eroded by being seen to be apologists of the Government.
>
> We greatly hope that your conduct will be exemplary; that you will
continue
> to engrain in our children a democratic culture; that you will continue
to
> help them to understand the pitfalls of life; that you will continue to
> assist them to discover their potentialities; that you will continue to
> engrain in them the virtues of shouldering civic responsibilities; that
you
> will imbue in them courage and wisdom, the capacity to discern and make
> rational judgments, the virtues that are required if they are going to be
> the architects of their own destiny.
>
>
>
> ...........................................
> Halifa Sallah
> For: The Editorial Board.
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Hey Musa,
I am back in Japan,it has been awhile since I did not follow issues on the
L, since the student riot happened.Well thanks for that demonstration that
you guys staged at the Gambian Embassy in DC.Gambians all over the world has
expressed anger and distress over what happened on April 10.The government
should refrain from continue brutality and killing of its own people.Well
there is no point of being a supporter of the present government or not.We
will stand clear to show our anger and disstatistification to the
government.The number of students who loose their lives shows incompetency
and lack of professionalism in the side of the Gambian Authorities.A much
better move should have been done in resolving this protest.Also if the
government is there for the Gambian people why can't it release the Gamsu
who have been detained under no justifyable reasons.May Allah the Almighty
bestow mercy and guidances to the families and friends who have lost their
loved ones in this unpatriotic and undemocratic move by the Gambia
government.Let us all pray for better Gambia.
The struggle continue;no retreat no surrender,forward ever backward never.
Sariang.
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> From: [log in to unmask] [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 3:41 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Demonstration at The Gambian Embassy
>
> Washington DC April 25, a group of Gambians mostly from the Washington
> Metropolitan Area, staged a demonstration at The Gambian embassy. In the
> wake
> of the student demonstration in The Gambia, which left 12 dead including a
> Red Cross volunteer and scores wounded, Gambians in the diaspora have been
> expressing their disgust and total outrage in the form of petitions,
> protest
> marches, telephone calls to condemn the atrocities committed by the Jammeh
> administration. 32 Gambians, including 4 from Georgia, 1 from North
> Carolina,
> and 1 from California participated in todays protest.
> At the beginning of the protest, 2 Secret Service Agents ( from the
> uniform
> division ) on scooters asked how long we planned to stay and then they
> helped
> themselves with coffee and donuts and took position watching our every
> move.
> It was cold and raining ' cats and dogs ' , but we stood our ground,
> formed a
> circle and chanting for an hour, exposing " His Holiness's " regime or
> whatever is left of it and then 22 of us went upstairs to deliver a
> petition
> and to seek an audience with Ambassador Bojang.
> Approximately 12:05 pm, we entered suite 1000 and asked to speak to the
> Ambassador. Consular Juwara emerged and led us to the conference room.
> Needless to say, it was a ' full house ' . According to Mr. Juwara,
> Ambassador Bojang was out attending a book fair. Barely 5 mins. into the
> meeting before you could say " PA SEY ", the Feds ( secret service agents
> ) a
> dozen of them appeared everywhere. After a word with the embassy
> officials,
> they stood patiently in the receptionist's office. Apart from the exhange
> of
> words between a protestor and the commanding officer ( a lady ), both
> sides
> exercised a great deal of restraint ------- in total contrast to what
> happened in The Gambia. All the speakers condemned in very strong terms,
> the
> Jammeh administration for its poor Human Rights record, most notably the
> recent student massacre. Mr. Juwara was informed of our intention to
> occupy
> and disrupt all services in the embassy unless and until we meet with the
> Ambassador. That we were ready to be arrested and charged with a
> misdemeanour
> ( punishable by a fine of $ 50.00 ). An hour into the meeting with
> Consular
> Juwara, Ambassador Bojang was seen talking to the Feds. Mr. Juwara then
> excused himself to talk to Mr. Bojang or what I'd call a 3 min. briefing.
> Both men then came to the conference room. We re-iterated our position :
> That
> we came to demonstrate our solidarity and support for GAMSU; That our
> petition be transmitted in its entirety.
> The meeting with ' His Excellency ' was raucous at some point as tempers
> flared, but it ended peacefully. Ambassador Bojang was given our petition
> and
> he promised to follow " Protocol " and send it immediately.
> The turnout was good ( 32 ). We had anticipated a larger crowd, but due to
> the inclement weather condition, many thought the demonstration was
> cancelled. Thank God, we weren't out there to vote, but to deliver a
> message.
> Hence, our " friends " on the other side can't down play the significance
> of
> the protest by playing the numbers game. During the meeting, a gentleman
> sitting next to me using his cell phone, called his wife's doctor to re -
> schedule an appointment. He said succinctly, " This's history in the
> making
> and I wouldn't want to miss a minute ... Coming here is the least I could
> do.
> The real Jambarrs are in The Gambia ".
>
> Musa.
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These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day dreaming.
Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them come
and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and participate
in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing otherwise
keep your peace.
Solomon Njai wrote:
"I can't believe the double standards being practiced by some of us on this
forum i.e. attacking ebou colley and kebba dampha for expressing their point
of views, as ex-military personnel's. As I reiterated on a different
posting, sympathetic Gambian's back home tends to understand the political
quagmire, we [especially those of us residing abroad] are faced with. We can
advocate DEMON/DIRIMOcracy, whatever Yahya would like to call it, but as
long as Gambia's best brains resides abroad and those at home leaving in
droves, Yahya will never ever leave office with the kind of
electioneering....."
Could you explain what you mean by the "double standard being practiced
by.....?" Further more, what an arrogant, irresponsible and un-Gambian
statement it is to say that "but as long as Gambia's best brains resides
abroad and those at home leaving in droves..." What makes you think that
Gambia's best brains resides abroad? Please clarify brother.
PEACE
TOMBONG
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Noble advice Mr. Sallah. I concur with these sentiments entirely!
Saul.
>LETTER TO THE PRINCIPALS AND HEADMASTERS
>The Demand for Principles and Professionalism
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>Gambian society is in a state of flux. Each change comes with its demands
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Some one was saying that, those who were saying that Yaya's government
should overthrown were day dreaming. They are not day dreaming, they are
express their fraustration with Yaya's government. I myself do not think
that Gambia should see any kind of violence like the killing of students on
April 10 by security forces. We have already seen enough violence. But
those who were saying that Yaya should be overthrown, though that is the
only way out to save our belove country. They have seen that politics is
not likely to work, because the first thing Yaya and his government would do
is to manuplate the whole election so that they would win no matter what.
In addition to that, members and supporters of the opposition parties are
subjected to harrasment and beatings. For example, UDP members were taken
to NIA headquarters and beaten severly and nothing came out of it. Mr Nyass
of UDP was adopted by the security forces and detained at NIA headquarters
for the simple reason that he is an opposition member. Now they started
killing students, who are they going to spere. You, who is well aware of
all this, telling us to go and participate in politics. I don't think so.
Faburama
Tombong wrote:
These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day dreaming.
Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them come
and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and participate
in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing otherwise
keep your peace.
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Tombong:
Your name means I find you. You are annoying the opposition with your
constant irrational stories and accusations. You cannot divide us. Your
tactics have actually solidified the opposition.
Since when did you become a mouthpiece of the dictator? Remember that the
dictator will not be in The Gambia forever. A day will come when you will
ask for mercy. We will treat you as any common criminal provided that there
is evidence to prosecute you. Though you have a right to support the
dictatorship, you should be careful. God is on our side. Be careful Mr. I
find you (Tombong).
Dictator yahya jemus is the worst thing that ever happened to The Gambia.
Dictator yahya jemus, let my people go.
Comrade,
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:31:52 -0400
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Subject: Re: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
Fair and free elections is the answer to our problem and not military
intervention.After the experience with the Jammeh group,i don't
trust any soldier that claims to be of a difference.We should
therefore concentrate our efforts and resources towards creating
and environment of ensuring free and fair elections.
I share the same concern,expressed already by some, that Jammeh
will not go when defeated at the ballot box.If that turns out to be the case
what next !!!!!!!!!!!.
After the 1994 take over,Koro Sallah of Moja came to Gambia after being
in exile since the 1981 coup attempt.To my surprise,Koro had audience
with Jammeh for some few hours and left.He took a flight back to Scandinavia
and release to the press that Gambia regional war or tribal war.
I'm always wondering why he said that.Can someone help if possible.
Beran
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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 6:38 PM
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Subject: Re: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
Kebba, thanks for your contributions to this discussion. I am
equally frustrated with this regime and I understand your
frustration. However, Ebou Colley and Jatta are not saying anything
new. All the military thugs that ran our continent to the sea said
the same thing. Remember, Jammeh also said the same thing. Instead
of
the gun, why don't they mobilize their colleagues and exercise their
constitutional right to ensure a free and fair elections and also
vote him out of office. This way, the cycle of blood letting is
broken and innocent lives will not be lost. I am not worried about
future retirement of Yahya and his rodents. No place is far and no
shelter is secure, for we will prosecute them to the fullest. They
know that. We should not let our emotions guide us, but our
intellect. Our brothers and sisters in Senegal did it, we can do it
too, with clear thinking and persistence.
Lets forge ahead.
Chi Jaama
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Subject: Re: Demonstration at The Gambian Embassy
Musa,
Bravo guys for your courage.I'm on the 7:00 am shift this
Week and was unable to attend.Next time,we'll take over the
Embassy that way the press and everyone else will be out there.
Beran
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Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 2:41 AM
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Subject: Demonstration at The Gambian Embassy
Washington DC April 25, a group of Gambians mostly from the
Washington
Metropolitan Area, staged a demonstration at The Gambian
embassy. In the wake
of the student demonstration in The Gambia, which left 12 dead
including a
Red Cross volunteer and scores wounded, Gambians in the diaspora
have been
expressing their disgust and total outrage in the form of
petitions, protest
marches, telephone calls to condemn the atrocities committed by
the Jammeh
administration. 32 Gambians, including 4 from Georgia, 1 from
North Carolina,
and 1 from California participated in todays protest.
At the beginning of the protest, 2 Secret Service Agents ( from
the uniform
division ) on scooters asked how long we planned to stay and
then they helped
themselves with coffee and donuts and took position watching our
every move.
It was cold and raining ' cats and dogs ' , but we stood our
ground, formed a
circle and chanting for an hour, exposing " His Holiness's "
regime or
whatever is left of it and then 22 of us went upstairs to
deliver a petition
and to seek an audience with Ambassador Bojang.
Approximately 12:05 pm, we entered suite 1000 and asked to speak
to the
Ambassador. Consular Juwara emerged and led us to the conference
room.
Needless to say, it was a ' full house ' . According to Mr.
Juwara,
Ambassador Bojang was out attending a book fair. Barely 5 mins.
into the
meeting before you could say " PA SEY ", the Feds ( secret
service agents ) a
dozen of them appeared everywhere. After a word with the embassy
officials,
they stood patiently in the receptionist's office. Apart from
the exhange of
words between a protestor and the commanding officer ( a lady ),
both sides
exercised a great deal of restraint ------- in total contrast to
what
happened in The Gambia. All the speakers condemned in very
strong terms, the
Jammeh administration for its poor Human Rights record, most
notably the
recent student massacre. Mr. Juwara was informed of our
intention to occupy
and disrupt all services in the embassy unless and until we meet
with the
Ambassador. That we were ready to be arrested and charged with a
misdemeanour
( punishable by a fine of $ 50.00 ). An hour into the meeting
with Consular
Juwara, Ambassador Bojang was seen talking to the Feds. Mr.
Juwara then
excused himself to talk to Mr. Bojang or what I'd call a 3 min.
briefing.
Both men then came to the conference room. We re-iterated our
position : That
we came to demonstrate our solidarity and support for GAMSU;
That our
petition be transmitted in its entirety.
The meeting with ' His Excellency ' was raucous at some point
as tempers
flared, but it ended peacefully. Ambassador Bojang was given our
petition and
he promised to follow " Protocol " and send it immediately.
The turnout was good ( 32 ). We had anticipated a larger crowd,
but due to
the inclement weather condition, many thought the demonstration
was
cancelled. Thank God, we weren't out there to vote, but to
deliver a message.
Hence, our " friends " on the other side can't down play the
significance of
the protest by playing the numbers game. During the meeting, a
gentleman
sitting next to me using his cell phone, called his wife's
doctor to re -
schedule an appointment. He said succinctly, " This's history in
the making
and I wouldn't want to miss a minute ... Coming here is the
least I could do.
The real Jambarrs are in The Gambia ".
Musa.
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Post Mortem is crucial in determining the cause of death in an inquiry.
Hence, section 4 (1) of the Coroner's Act empowers the Coroner to order the
post mortem examination of the deceased. It states:
"Whenever an inquiry into the cause of death of any person is required to be
held under the provisions of this Act, a Coroner may, subject to any rule
made under this Act, direct a medical officer or other duly qualified
medical practitioners to hold a post mortem examination of the deceased
person."
The Coroner also has power to suspend burial to enable the 'post mortem
examination to be done. Hence, section 4 (2) states:
"A Coroner may prohibit the burial of any dead body within the territorial
limits of his jurisdiction until an inquiry under this Act shall have been
held."
Even after burial, if necessary, the Coroner may order the examination of
the dead body as states in subsection (3) "Wherever a Coroner deems it
expedient in order to discover the cause of death or make an examination of
the dead body of any person who has already been interred, he may order such
body to be exhumed and examined."
POWERS WHEN DEATH OCCURS IN CUSTODY
According to section 6, subsection (2), when any person dies while in the
custody of the police or of a prison officer or in prison or when detained
in any place under the provisions of the Lunatics Detention Act or of the
Criminal Procedure Code, "a Coroner may, subject to the provisions of
section 11 of this Act, hold an inquiry, either instead of or in addition to
the investigation held by the police officer."
POWER ON SUSPICION OF COMMISSION OF OFFENCE
According to section 9 (2) of the Act, "Subject to the provisions of section
11 of this Act, if before or at the termination of any such inquiry a
Coroner is of the opinion that the commission of an offence by some known
person has been disclosed, he shall issue a summons or warrant for his
arrest, or take such other steps as may be necessary to secure his
attendance to answer such charge."
What happens when such accused person appears before a Coroner? The
subsection goes on to say "On the attendance of the said person, the Coroner
shall commence the inquiry de novo and shall proceed in the manner provided
in Part VI of the Criminal Procedure Code for holding a preliminary inquiry
into an offence."
In fact, subsection (1) of section 9 of the Act states: "Notwithstanding the
repeal of Part VI and section 236 of the Criminal Procedure Code and save as
otherwise provided in this Act, a Coroner holding an inquiry under this Act
shall exercise all powers conferred by that Code upon a Magistrate holding a
preliminary inquiry into an offence, as if those provisions had not been
repealed."
Furthermore, it is stipulated in section 12 of the Act that ".... if any
person is brought before a Coroner charged with murder, manslaughter, or
infanticide, such Coroner shall have the like powers as to committing that
person for trial before the Supreme Court as might be exercised under the
Criminal Procedure Code by a Magistrate if such person were charged before a
Magistrate."
The question now arises: What powers does this part confer on the Coroner?
DISCHARGE OF ACCUSED PERSON
Section 184 of the Criminal Procedure Code states: "If the court considers
that the evidence against the accused person is not sufficient to put him on
his trial, the court shall forthwith order him to be discharged as to the
particular charge under inquiry; but such charge shall not be a bar to any
subsequent charge in respect of the same facts:
"Provided always that nothing contained in this section shall prevent the
court from either forthwith, or after such adjournment of the inquiry as may
seem expedient in the interests of justice, proceeding to investigate any
other charge upon which the accused person may have been summoned or
otherwise brought before it, or which, in the course of the charge in
respect of which that accused person has been discharged as aforesaid, it
may appear that the accused person has committed."
COMMITMENT FOR TRIAL
The Coroner may on the other hand think there is enough evidence to commit
the accused for trial. Hence, section 185 of the Code states: "If the court
considers the evidence sufficient to put the accused person on his trial,
the court shall commit him for trial to the Supreme Court and shall, until
the trial, either admit him to bail or send him to prison for safe-keeping.
The warrant of such first-named court shall be sufficient authority to the
officer in charge of any prison appointed for the custody of prisons
committed for trial, although out of the jurisdiction of such court."
The Coroner may be of the opinion that an offence has been committed by an
unknown person. Hence section 9 (3) of the Coroner's Act states: "If at the
termination of the inquiry the Coroner is of opinion that an offence has
been committed by some person or persons unknown, he shall record his
opinion accordingly."
What if the Coroner is of the opinion has been committed? Section 9 (4)
states "If at the termination of the inquiry the Coroner is of opinion that
no offence has been committed, he shall record his opinion accordingly."
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The Gambia Bar Association has said that it is willing to serve as =
prosecutors in the case against the firemen alleged to be involved in =
the death of a school boy from Brikama, Ebrima Barry. The Bar expressed =
its willingness in a press release it issued on Monday in reaction to =
recent students riots, and in response to a request by the Attorney =
General for the appointment of a public prosecutor from the Bar. The =
association said it is concerned about the events, and expressed regret =
at the loss of life and property. It states that in the investigations =
of the events the rule of law, and all necessary constitutional =
provisions should be respected, and stressed that justice must not only =
be done, but must be seen to be done. The Bar association said its doors =
are open to anyone who wishes to seek redress for wrongs committed to =
the individual
A.Drammeh.
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Hello there,
The last time I checked, all indications were that the last elections in the Gambia were fair and transparent. This was confirmed by a cross section of observers, including the former British high commission. I am sure the next elections will be without any glitches and manipulation by the incumbent government.
If our friend Ebou Colley/Landing Jatta seriously wants to effect change in the Gambia, I suggest he put his efforts toward the democratic process instead of calling for violence. Besides, like Tombong pointed out, he should have stayed in the Gambia and be in the midst of any potential conflict.
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These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day dreaming.
Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them come
and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and participate
in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing otherwise
keep your peace.
Solomon Njai wrote:
"I can't believe the double standards being practiced by some of us on this
forum i.e. attacking ebou colley and kebba dampha for expressing their point
of views, as ex-military personnel's. As I reiterated on a different
posting, sympathetic Gambian's back home tends to understand the political
quagmire, we [especially those of us residing abroad] are faced with. We can
advocate DEMON/DIRIMOcracy, whatever Yahya would like to call it, but as
long as Gambia's best brains resides abroad and those at home leaving in
droves, Yahya will never ever leave office with the kind of
electioneering....."
Could you explain what you mean by the "double standard being practiced
by.....?" Further more, what an arrogant, irresponsible and un-Gambian
statement it is to say that "but as long as Gambia's best brains resides
abroad and those at home leaving in droves..." What makes you think that
Gambia's best brains resides abroad? Please clarify brother.
PEACE
TOMBONG
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Ladies and gentlemen, It is telling that our brother Tombong was silent
amid all the condemnation of the regime he supports in the aftermath of the
April 10 massacre. As soon as he sees that people are seriously advocating
the removal of the Yaya government by any means necessary, he predictably
jumped and started coming to their aid. No one can help you in this thing
Tombong. You not only support Yaya, but conspire with him and aid and abet
him in his criminal enterprises. And we will not forget that when Day of
Judgment comes. Look who is counseling people to partake in democratic
activities in The Gambia. Do people think for one moment that if Tombong
thought the ballot box can remove Yaya he would tell us to resort to that.
These are the very people who used to lie to the Gambian public during the
PPP regime telling them that Jawara couldn't be defeated through elections
and therefore Yaya's coup was justifiable. You asked the rhetorical question
why we did not overthrow Yaya while we were in The Gambia ….well I'll give
you a response. The time was not ripe. We left Gambia under the same dark
clouds people like Oliver Tambo left South Africa ….. Jambarr Dawul Dafa
Dani Dolem …..we'll be back. Ladies and Gentlemen ….remember, this is the
type of thing that give these people insomnia and make them wet their pants.
They are all cowards. Yaya must be removed by any means necessary. I'll be
happier than anyone of you if Yaya was removed peacefully through a free and
fair election process. But let's get real. BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
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>These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day dreaming.
>Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them
>come
>and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
>Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and participate
>in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing otherwise
>keep your peace.
>
>Solomon Njai wrote:
>
>"I can't believe the double standards being practiced by some of us on this
>forum i.e. attacking ebou colley and kebba dampha for expressing their
>point
>of views, as ex-military personnel's. As I reiterated on a different
>posting, sympathetic Gambian's back home tends to understand the political
>quagmire, we [especially those of us residing abroad] are faced with. We
>can
>advocate DEMON/DIRIMOcracy, whatever Yahya would like to call it, but as
>long as Gambia's best brains resides abroad and those at home leaving in
>droves, Yahya will never ever leave office with the kind of
>electioneering....."
>
>Could you explain what you mean by the "double standard being practiced
>by.....?" Further more, what an arrogant, irresponsible and un-Gambian
>statement it is to say that "but as long as Gambia's best brains resides
>abroad and those at home leaving in droves..." What makes you think that
>Gambia's best brains resides abroad? Please clarify brother.
>
>PEACE
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Tombong,
could you please help provide the answers for these questions =
please.
A.Drammeh.
culled from the Point paper.
Contradictions And Contradictions
=20
=20
We cannot understand that following Jammeh's address to the nation, =
students would still be languishing in custody. We cannot understand =
that after declaring a week of mourning, the students are still being =
held.=20
We cannot understand that while he was visiting the RVH praying =
for wounded students, the others were still being held in detention.=20
We cannot also understand that the government's legal adviser(s) =
have not told them that it is unconstitutional to continue to detain the =
students for such a long time.=20
We cannot understand that the calls for full adherence to the rule =
of rule are totally ignored, if not being treated with contempt.=20
We cannot understand that people who said that the dead are =
bandits who deserved to die are still around.=20
We cannot understand that the talk of reconciliation is not =
matched by the needed remedial measures that are being echoed and =
re-echoed by truthful people like uncle Joachim Dacosta.=20
We cannot understand that rumours have it that families of dead =
students are being visited and sympatished with, yet the students that =
survived the carnage are still in custody.=20
We cannot understand that in this grave moment of our history, =
some people are bent on pleasing, patronising instead of giving truthful =
and proper remonstrances and advices.=20
We cannot understand that government has not yet set up an =
independent commission of inquiry to deal with the problem.=20
We cannot understand that some bodies are still keeping mute.=20
The truth is, as the old man put it, whether it is known or =
unknown to government, the vast majority of the people abhor what has =
taken place, and are silently waiting to see what will be done to =
resolve this issue.
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<P align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2>could you please help provide the =
answers for=20
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<P align=3Dleft> </P>
<P align=3Dleft><FONT size=3D2>A.Drammeh.</FONT></P>
<P align=3Dleft> </P>
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<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><EM>culled from the =
Point=20
paper</EM>.</FONT></P>
<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D+2>Contradictions And =
Contradictions</FONT></P></TD>
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<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D-1>We cannot =
understand that=20
following Jammeh's address to the nation, students would still be=20
languishing in custody. We cannot understand that after declaring =
a week=20
of mourning, the students are still being held. </FONT>
<P align=3Djustify><FONT size=3D-1>We cannot understand that while =
he was=20
visiting the RVH praying for wounded students, the others were =
still being=20
held in detention.=20
<P align=3Djustify>We cannot also understand that the government's =
legal=20
adviser(s) have not told them that it is unconstitutional to =
continue to=20
detain the students for such a long time.=20
<P align=3Djustify>We cannot understand that the calls for full =
adherence to=20
the rule of rule are totally ignored, if not being treated with =
contempt.=20
<P align=3Djustify>We cannot understand that people who said that =
the dead=20
are bandits who deserved to die are still around.=20
<P align=3Djustify>We cannot understand that the talk of =
reconciliation is=20
not matched by the needed remedial measures that are being echoed =
and=20
re-echoed by truthful people like uncle Joachim Dacosta.=20
<P align=3Djustify>We cannot understand that rumours have it that =
families=20
of dead students are being visited and sympatished with, yet the =
students=20
that survived the carnage are still in custody.=20
<P align=3Djustify>We cannot understand that in this grave moment =
of our=20
history, some people are bent on pleasing, patronising instead of =
giving=20
truthful and proper remonstrances and advices.=20
<P align=3Djustify>We cannot understand that government has not =
yet set up=20
an independent commission of inquiry to deal with the problem.=20
<P align=3Djustify>We cannot understand that some bodies are still =
keeping=20
mute.=20
<P>The truth is, as the old man put it, whether it is known or =
unknown to=20
government, the vast majority of the people abhor what has taken =
place,=20
and are silently waiting to see what will be done to resolve this=20
issue.</FONT></P></TD>
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Tombong your contribution here will be most valuable.
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SubjTOMBONG PLEASE ect: HELP US ANSWER THESE
Tombong,
could you please help provide the answers for these questions please.
A.Drammeh.
culled from the Point paper.
Contradictions And Contradictions
We cannot understand that following Jammeh's address to the nation, students
would still be languishing in custody. We cannot understand that after declaring
a week of mourning, the students are still being held.
We cannot understand that while he was visiting the RVH praying for wounded
students, the others were still being held in detention.
We cannot also understand that the government's legal adviser(s) have not told
them that it is unconstitutional to continue to detain the students for such a
long time.
We cannot understand that the calls for full adherence to the rule of rule are
totally ignored, if not being treated with contempt.
We cannot understand that people who said that the dead are bandits who deserved
to die are still around.
We cannot understand that the talk of reconciliation is not matched by the
needed remedial measures that are being echoed and re-echoed by truthful people
like uncle Joachim Dacosta.
We cannot understand that rumours have it that families of dead students are
being visited and sympatished with, yet the students that survived the carnage
are still in custody.
We cannot understand that in this grave moment of our history, some people are
bent on pleasing, patronising instead of giving truthful and proper
remonstrances and advices.
We cannot understand that government has not yet set up an independent
commission of inquiry to deal with the problem.
We cannot understand that some bodies are still keeping mute.
The truth is, as the old man put it, whether it is known or unknown to
government, the vast majority of the people abhor what has taken place, and are
silently waiting to see what will be done to resolve this issue.
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UNCLE-TOM BOY SAIDY, you have the daring nerve to call me UN-Gambian and all
the other chosen words you selectively threw at me, but Gambians [including
Amat Bah] that knows your childhood background, are laughing at such an
unwarranted statement. Let's backtracked to the days you and dad came to
Gambia as a refugee and attended the same school upcountry, with Amat Bah and
my cousins...'hello...hello' Does this ring a bell to your arrogant and
selective amnesia brain? It's such a sad story for you Tombong, of all people
to take the spineless stance against demonstrating school children, even
though you gain your common sense and manhood through your activism and
protest at Nusrat High School, where you became a MENACE TO SOCIETY [THE
PPP/JAWARA REGIME], hence the reason why you became a refugee in the USA the
second time around....'hello...hello'
I remember your activist[s] days in Washington with Brother Ous Mbenga and
how uncompromising and gallant a soldier of struggle for Africa's liberation
against tyranny and injustice you were; but you are nothing but an UNCLE TOM
because of your slimy suckering and reptilian mindset. Your days are numbered
with Yahya Jammeh, I just hope that the day you are fired, you will not
return to the USA as you were deemed PERSONA NON GRATA, in other words, a
criminal element..WIFE-CHEATER AND ABUSER...SHAME ON YOU. By the way, you
were not included in my statement of the 'double standard' I touched on in my
last posting, since you lied, coned, snitched and kissed a-- to obtained your
ambassadorial position after the 94' coup. Why don't you let the secretary of
MIS/disinformation do his job, instead you're the only oxymoron [not even
Yankuba Touray this time] defending this military cowards that would mow down
protesting school children, I think it's you guys that deserves the title
UN_GAMBIAN?
PS: stop using the term peace, instead use WAR [on innocent school children]
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2000-04-25
GAMBIA: EIGHT SENEGALESE EXPELLED FROM GAMBIA FOR RIOTING.
BANJUL, April 25 (Reuters) - Gambia expelled eight Senegalese on Tuesday for
their part in rioting two weeks ago in which up to 14 people were killed, police
sources said.
They said those expelled were among 16 Senegalese nationals detained during
rioting on April 11 and 12 sparked by the alleged torture and murder of a school
student by fire fighters.
Nationals from Senegal, which surrounds Gambia on three sides, make up an
estimated 350,000 of Gambia's 1.3 million population.
Government statements about the riots have put the death toll at 12.
But police and family sources in Birkamaba, 250 km (156 miles) east of Banjul,
say two more students were killed there when police opened fire to stop crowds
of students from attacking government buildings.
Gambia's two main opposition parties called on April 20 for an independent
commission of inquiry into the deaths, suggesting the actual toll was higher
than the official total. A radio journalist was among those killed.
President Yahya Jammeh has promised that "no stone will be left unturned" in
trying to find out how they died. Government officials have said that protesters
started the shooting.
Police sources said 60 students from Armitage secondary school, 300 km east of
Banjul, had been released at the weekend after being detained for setting fire
to the premises of the post office and telecommunications company Gamtel.
The education ministry said in a statement that some schoolchildren had resumed
classes on Tuesday as part of a phased return. All classes would be back to
normal by May 4, it said.
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I hoped the swift justice meted on those alleged senegalese nationals was
visited on the perpetrators of the April 10 massacre. If and when Tombong
decides to answer the numerous questions previously posed to him in this
forum, he might also want to shed light on what kind of tribunal tried,
convicted, and punished these alleged rioters. WE MUST GET RID OF YAYA BY
ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
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>2000-04-25
>GAMBIA: EIGHT SENEGALESE EXPELLED FROM GAMBIA FOR RIOTING.
>
>BANJUL, April 25 (Reuters) - Gambia expelled eight Senegalese on Tuesday
>for
>their part in rioting two weeks ago in which up to 14 people were killed,
>police
>sources said.
>They said those expelled were among 16 Senegalese nationals detained during
>rioting on April 11 and 12 sparked by the alleged torture and murder of a
>school
>student by fire fighters.
>Nationals from Senegal, which surrounds Gambia on three sides, make up an
>estimated 350,000 of Gambia's 1.3 million population.
>Government statements about the riots have put the death toll at 12.
>But police and family sources in Birkamaba, 250 km (156 miles) east of
>Banjul,
>say two more students were killed there when police opened fire to stop
>crowds
>of students from attacking government buildings.
>Gambia's two main opposition parties called on April 20 for an independent
>commission of inquiry into the deaths, suggesting the actual toll was
>higher
>than the official total. A radio journalist was among those killed.
>President Yahya Jammeh has promised that "no stone will be left unturned"
>in
>trying to find out how they died. Government officials have said that
>protesters
>started the shooting.
>Police sources said 60 students from Armitage secondary school, 300 km east
>of
>Banjul, had been released at the weekend after being detained for setting
>fire
>to the premises of the post office and telecommunications company Gamtel.
>The education ministry said in a statement that some schoolchildren had
>resumed
>classes on Tuesday as part of a phased return. All classes would be back to
>normal by May 4, it said.
>
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i think what he meant by the statement ;gambia's best brains reside
abroad" is that people that have the intelectual capacity an patriotism to
view democracy in its real essence,to serve the best interest of the
Gambia,not their swiss accounts, rule and protect the country and its best
resources;THE PEOPLE, be civilized enough to accept constructive crtisims,
instead of the prevaillent "jungle" rule where only the strongest and people
with lengthy "tongues"like yourself to stick in Jammeh's rear will survive.
where the only word democratic enough is HAILE the BIG BABOON KING. i think
he meant people who would lead the country and deliver it to economic,
social, cultural and political triaumph, are in exile...and by this word i
mean they could not survive the corrupt,barbbaric and imhumane regime that
plagued the nation before and at present.And if you do not agree, why don't
you take a goooood hard look at yourself in the mirror,....the get back to
me. PEACE
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>
>These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day dreaming.
>Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them
>come
>and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
>Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and participate
>in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing otherwise
>keep your peace.
>
>Solomon Njai wrote:
>
>"I can't believe the double standards being practiced by some of us on this
>forum i.e. attacking ebou colley and kebba dampha for expressing their
>point
>of views, as ex-military personnel's. As I reiterated on a different
>posting, sympathetic Gambian's back home tends to understand the political
>quagmire, we [especially those of us residing abroad] are faced with. We
>can
>advocate DEMON/DIRIMOcracy, whatever Yahya would like to call it, but as
>long as Gambia's best brains resides abroad and those at home leaving in
>droves, Yahya will never ever leave office with the kind of
>electioneering....."
>
>Could you explain what you mean by the "double standard being practiced
>by.....?" Further more, what an arrogant, irresponsible and un-Gambian
>statement it is to say that "but as long as Gambia's best brains resides
>abroad and those at home leaving in droves..." What makes you think that
>Gambia's best brains resides abroad? Please clarify brother.
>
>PEACE
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Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
"... All I am trying to say is, drastic actions call for drastic
reactions. Believe me, I would be the first one on Colly's or anybody els=
e's
back if they get rid of Yaya and don't want to return the country to
democracy. Yaya should be removed by any means necessary. You don't have =
to
agree with Colly .....but he does not deserve denunciation from you eithe=
r...
not yet. ... "
Mr Dampha,
If they do in fact refuse to hand over, then what would you do? wouldn't =
it be
a cycle? Its been tried in all parts of Africa and in all shapes and form=
s.
The simple fact is this: =
... there are NO "soldiers with a difference"!!
The sooner we get this, the better for all of us!!
regards,
Modou
> I have read your postings with interest and I want to set the record
> straight and state here that I share the same democratic ideals you hav=
e.
> For the record, before anyone sent a posting advocating for the appoint=
ment
> of an independent prosecutor (preferably a human rights activist from
> outside The Gambia) to prosecute the perpetrators of the atrocities of
April
> 10, I was sending emails to the list for the appointment of such an
> attorney. I believe in democracy and the rule of law. At the same time,=
am
> not insensitive to the glaring plight of the Gambians and the seeming
> hopelessness of trying to get rid of Yaya through the ballot box. I do =
not
> think that (for lack of a better characterization) the Colly camp and =
your
> camp are mutually exclusive. But rest assured that the same kind of
> detractors that tried to pit Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. against Malco=
lm X
> would try to convince you otherwise. Nelson Mandela was not a bad perso=
n
> because he advocated violence against Apartheid. In fact, he engaged in=
> violent acts against the South African regime. Today, he is a hero
> throughout the world. Violence in this context is not the end game as i=
t is
> right now in The Gambia. It is a means to an end (restoration of democr=
acy
> in The Gambia). All I am trying to say is, drastic actions call for dra=
stic
> reactions. Believe me, I would be the first one on Colly's or anybody
else's
> back if they get rid of Yaya and don't want to return the country to
> democracy. Yaya should be removed by any means necessary. You don't hav=
e to
> agree with Colly .....but he does not deserve denunciation from you eit=
her
> ... not yet.
> =
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Mr. Halifa Sallah:
Thanks for the fine posting on "Powers of the Coroner." I did like you
to also discuss SECTION 11 of the Coroner's Act. Under POWER OF
SUSPICION OF COMMISSION OF OFFENSE, reference is made to sec.11.
Sect.9(2) clearly empowers the Coroner to issue "summons or warrant for
his arrest(i.e., the known person who has committed an offense), or take
such steps as may be necessary to secure his attendance to answer such
charge."
Contrary to the public statements made by the recently-appointed
Coroner, his powers go beyond establishing cause(s)of death.
A possible interpretation of this section and other relevant sections of
the Act is that, if the facts could be established before, during or
(even) after the end of the inquest as to who gave the ORDER to "open
fire" on the demonstrators, that person or persons could be brought
before the coroner "to answer such charge."
Coroner Yahya Jammeh has already laid the ground work for a total
white-wash which many people in Gambia saw coming(see "Hamat Bah Takes
Jammeh To Task" THE POINT, TUESDAY 25 APRIL).
Sources tell me from Banjul, that people are not interested in a
Coroner's Inquest, because they already know that these kids, and Omar
Barrow were gunned down by the security forces. This is also Hamat Bah's
implication in his POINT article. What people want to know in earnest
is when the Commission of Inquiry will be established.
Your comments are welcome and appreciated.
Additionally, I urge all to write to Ambassador Akrouf, UNDP REP. in
Gambia,([log in to unmask]) and send the petitions that would then
be hand delivered to Secretary-General Annan.
Abdoulaye
No justice, no peace!
Jammeh Must Go!
foroyaa wrote:
>
> Post Mortem is crucial in determining the cause of death in an inquiry.
> Hence, section 4 (1) of the Coroner's Act empowers the Coroner to order the
> post mortem examination of the deceased. It states:
>
> "Whenever an inquiry into the cause of death of any person is required to be
> held under the provisions of this Act, a Coroner may, subject to any rule
> made under this Act, direct a medical officer or other duly qualified
> medical practitioners to hold a post mortem examination of the deceased
> person."
>
> The Coroner also has power to suspend burial to enable the 'post mortem
> examination to be done. Hence, section 4 (2) states:
>
> "A Coroner may prohibit the burial of any dead body within the territorial
> limits of his jurisdiction until an inquiry under this Act shall have been
> held."
>
> Even after burial, if necessary, the Coroner may order the examination of
> the dead body as states in subsection (3) "Wherever a Coroner deems it
> expedient in order to discover the cause of death or make an examination of
> the dead body of any person who has already been interred, he may order such
> body to be exhumed and examined."
>
> POWERS WHEN DEATH OCCURS IN CUSTODY
>
> According to section 6, subsection (2), when any person dies while in the
> custody of the police or of a prison officer or in prison or when detained
> in any place under the provisions of the Lunatics Detention Act or of the
> Criminal Procedure Code, "a Coroner may, subject to the provisions of
> section 11 of this Act, hold an inquiry, either instead of or in addition to
> the investigation held by the police officer."
>
> POWER ON SUSPICION OF COMMISSION OF OFFENCE
>
> According to section 9 (2) of the Act, "Subject to the provisions of section
> 11 of this Act, if before or at the termination of any such inquiry a
> Coroner is of the opinion that the commission of an offence by some known
> person has been disclosed, he shall issue a summons or warrant for his
> arrest, or take such other steps as may be necessary to secure his
> attendance to answer such charge."
>
> What happens when such accused person appears before a Coroner? The
> subsection goes on to say "On the attendance of the said person, the Coroner
> shall commence the inquiry de novo and shall proceed in the manner provided
> in Part VI of the Criminal Procedure Code for holding a preliminary inquiry
> into an offence."
>
> In fact, subsection (1) of section 9 of the Act states: "Notwithstanding the
> repeal of Part VI and section 236 of the Criminal Procedure Code and save as
> otherwise provided in this Act, a Coroner holding an inquiry under this Act
> shall exercise all powers conferred by that Code upon a Magistrate holding a
> preliminary inquiry into an offence, as if those provisions had not been
> repealed."
>
> Furthermore, it is stipulated in section 12 of the Act that ".... if any
> person is brought before a Coroner charged with murder, manslaughter, or
> infanticide, such Coroner shall have the like powers as to committing that
> person for trial before the Supreme Court as might be exercised under the
> Criminal Procedure Code by a Magistrate if such person were charged before a
> Magistrate."
>
> The question now arises: What powers does this part confer on the Coroner?
>
> DISCHARGE OF ACCUSED PERSON
>
> Section 184 of the Criminal Procedure Code states: "If the court considers
> that the evidence against the accused person is not sufficient to put him on
> his trial, the court shall forthwith order him to be discharged as to the
> particular charge under inquiry; but such charge shall not be a bar to any
> subsequent charge in respect of the same facts:
>
> "Provided always that nothing contained in this section shall prevent the
> court from either forthwith, or after such adjournment of the inquiry as may
> seem expedient in the interests of justice, proceeding to investigate any
> other charge upon which the accused person may have been summoned or
> otherwise brought before it, or which, in the course of the charge in
> respect of which that accused person has been discharged as aforesaid, it
> may appear that the accused person has committed."
>
> COMMITMENT FOR TRIAL
>
> The Coroner may on the other hand think there is enough evidence to commit
> the accused for trial. Hence, section 185 of the Code states: "If the court
> considers the evidence sufficient to put the accused person on his trial,
> the court shall commit him for trial to the Supreme Court and shall, until
> the trial, either admit him to bail or send him to prison for safe-keeping.
> The warrant of such first-named court shall be sufficient authority to the
> officer in charge of any prison appointed for the custody of prisons
> committed for trial, although out of the jurisdiction of such court."
>
> The Coroner may be of the opinion that an offence has been committed by an
> unknown person. Hence section 9 (3) of the Coroner's Act states: "If at the
> termination of the inquiry the Coroner is of opinion that an offence has
> been committed by some person or persons unknown, he shall record his
> opinion accordingly."
>
> What if the Coroner is of the opinion has been committed? Section 9 (4)
> states "If at the termination of the inquiry the Coroner is of opinion that
> no offence has been committed, he shall record his opinion accordingly."
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>Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>"... All I am trying to say is, drastic actions call for drastic
>reactions. Believe me, I would be the first one on Colly's or anybody
>else's
>back if they get rid of Yaya and don't want to return the country to
>democracy. Yaya should be removed by any means necessary. You don't have to
>agree with Colly .....but he does not deserve denunciation from you
>either...
>not yet. ... "
>
>
>Mr Dampha,
>If they do in fact refuse to hand over, then what would you do? wouldn't it
>be
>a cycle? Its been tried in all parts of Africa and in all shapes and forms.
>The simple fact is this:
> ... there are NO "soldiers with a difference"!!
>
>The sooner we get this, the better for all of us!!
>
>regards,
>Modou
>
>
>
>
> > I have read your postings with interest and I want to set the record
> > straight and state here that I share the same democratic ideals you
>have.
> > For the record, before anyone sent a posting advocating for the
>appointment
> > of an independent prosecutor (preferably a human rights activist from
> > outside The Gambia) to prosecute the perpetrators of the atrocities of
>April
> > 10, I was sending emails to the list for the appointment of such an
> > attorney. I believe in democracy and the rule of law. At the same time,
>am
> > not insensitive to the glaring plight of the Gambians and the seeming
> > hopelessness of trying to get rid of Yaya through the ballot box. I do
>not
> > think that (for lack of a better characterization) the Colly camp and
>your
> > camp are mutually exclusive. But rest assured that the same kind of
> > detractors that tried to pit Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. against
>Malcolm X
> > would try to convince you otherwise. Nelson Mandela was not a bad person
> > because he advocated violence against Apartheid. In fact, he engaged in
> > violent acts against the South African regime. Today, he is a hero
> > throughout the world. Violence in this context is not the end game as it
>is
> > right now in The Gambia. It is a means to an end (restoration of
>democracy
> > in The Gambia). All I am trying to say is, drastic actions call for
>drastic
> > reactions. Believe me, I would be the first one on Colly's or anybody
>else's
> > back if they get rid of Yaya and don't want to return the country to
> > democracy. Yaya should be removed by any means necessary. You don't have
>to
> > agree with Colly .....but he does not deserve denunciation from you
>either
> > ... not yet.
> >
> >
> >
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After going through 750+ messeges (I was incommunicado because
of my finals), i must say that it is beautiful indeed to see Gambians
putting aside their petty differences and uniting in this common goal
for a 'free Gambia'. We must realise that nothing is without wisdom and i
believe the wisdom behind the events that have been brewing for the past
few years and which reached a climax on April 10th is this: the price of
freedom is never cheap. As such, we must not loose faith or give up hope.
God said, "with hardship cometh ease". No doubt we are in the most trying
times, but the promise of God Almighty is true, so we can be assured that
ease (peace and democracy in this case) will definitely be forthcoming.
However, our duty is patience and perseverance while we wait for God's
promise to be fulfilled - and God's timing is the best! With the efforts
of people such as Buharry (contragulations on the baby girl, may God give
her everything that is good and keep from her everything that is evil, and
complete her with His light), Jabou, Yankuba, etc., etc.,etc.; eloquent
words from the likes of Alpha Robinson and Nabiha; insightful analyses
such as those from Amadou Kabir and Momodou Sidibeh, I believe we can most
certainly persevere. And to make assurance doubly sure, we have generated
a lot of steam both locally and internationally (i have the 750+ e-mails
to prove it!) to keep us going. So perseverance will not be a problem,
however i think patience might. While we're sending petitions to
international organisations and such, let's remember that the west doesn't
necessarily have the answers - wasn't America responsible for getting
Jammeh in, in the first place? Anyway, speculation or not, I think we
should be cautious what we ask for, because if we're asking for economic
sanctions (i believe someone recommended it a couple of hundred emails
back, but i'm glad i haven't seen this particular recommendation in any of
the petitions i've signed thus far), then we should be aware of the
implications of such a request. The implications... are that the Gambian
people will just continue to suffer, end of story. Take Iraq as a case in
point....the sanctions have only resulted in making the already miserable
life of the common Iraqi more miserable. The actual people that the
sanctions were intended to hurt are still enjoying life despite the
sanctions. Momodou Sidibeh stated that two-thirds of the
direct investment in the country according to the central bank comes from
Gambians abroad sending money to supplement their relatives' meagre
incomes. So let's be careful that all this call for international
involvement does not backfire on us.
With regards to the effort being put into all of this, excuse my
lack of physical presence because i'm all the way up here in
no-man's-land, Hamilton,Canada, and as such my contributions in the form
of money is about all i can afford. However, my sister, Ancha is at home
right now and she said that she has opened an account for the families of
the deceased and she was going to put the account # and other relevant
info. on the list. However, i've informed her of the contributions already
being collected in NA and Europe, so it would not make sense to put
another account on the list for this purpose. But i was wondering if there
is already a mechanism in place, by which the monies collected abroad are
going to be distributed to the various families. If so, maybe you can have
my sister coordinate with whoever is in responsible (just to have more
people help out). But if not, maybe Soffie Ceesay and Alpha Robinson can
forward whatever they've collected and she can distribute it as necessary.
Just in case the issue of trust comes up, Ancha worked with GESO to get
the computers that were donated down to Banjul and she was responsible for
handling the particulars when they got there. So Jabou and others can
vouch for her if necessary. Whatever the case, my sister as usual is
prepared to help so if there is a need for people at home to coordinate
efforts, I'm sure she's ready and willing insofar as her schedule at RVH
permits. She's been working some crazy hours lately! So if anyone has any
suggestions, let me know and i'll forward them to her. She will probably
try to get on the L concerning this but like i said, she's busy and has
computer issues so i'm her messenger for the time being.
In the meantime, let's all keep doing what we can for our beloved
country and remember to pray for the dead and ask God to make the grief
easier to bear for their families and help us in our endeavours for a
'Free Gambia'.
Yai-Fatou Gaye.
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It is with great dismay that I continue to read what I deem as cowardless
cries by some members of this site who address themselves as GNA officers for
a military coup against Jammeh. Remmember, you were the very people that
aided him to come to power,and still continue to aid him carry out the
attrocities being done against the gambian population.If you have an
intention to end his rule, no day was more appropiate than April 10th and
11th.But instead, you continued to carry out the same attrocities you are
known for. Coming to this site afterwards to repent for your sins doesn't
make you anyless a murderer. If you are not tried in The Gambian courts, you
shall surely be held accountable in God's courts one day.
ACT NOW OR SHUT-UP.
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G-Lers,
Thank you to all who have already sent in their donations. We have seen
or heard brilliant suggestions made on this list. For any of these
suggestions to work, we have to be generous with our pocketbooks. A little
bit of our finances/time(s) will go a long way in helping us right the daily
wrongs our government inflicts on us.
To our brothers and sisters in Atlanta, please STOP the madness. July 4th is
ages away and should take a back seat to making our government
accountable to their barbaric acts. Please DO NOT take my statement as an
insult, its a challenge/plea for you guys to focus and participate in
something bigger than all of us. Thanks to the Gambian residents in Atlanta
who recognized our need to be one and planned the MARCH/DEMONSTRATION.
Our point of contact in DC is Karamba Touray or Soffie Ceesay. I urge
our fellow countrymen in NY and surroundings, CA, Seattle, NC, Miami,
Atlanta, Chicago, and Europe to update us on their efforts. It would be
great and unprecedented to work as one unit instead of several small ones.
Please give freely. Visit Gambian.com and click on Massacre Action Plan
to view our donation results.
Regards
Sal Barry
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>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:10:10 EDT
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>Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>"... All I am trying to say is, drastic actions call for drastic
>reactions. Believe me, I would be the first one on Colly's or anybody
>else's
>back if they get rid of Yaya and don't want to return the country to
>democracy. Yaya should be removed by any means necessary. You don't have to
>agree with Colly .....but he does not deserve denunciation from you
>either...
>not yet. ... "
>
>
>Mr Dampha,
>If they do in fact refuse to hand over, then what would you do? wouldn't it
>be
>a cycle? Its been tried in all parts of Africa and in all shapes and forms.
>The simple fact is this:
> ... there are NO "soldiers with a difference"!!
>
>The sooner we get this, the better for all of us!!
>
>regards,
>Modou
>
>
>
>
> > I have read your postings with interest and I want to set the record
> > straight and state here that I share the same democratic ideals you
>have.
> > For the record, before anyone sent a posting advocating for the
>appointment
> > of an independent prosecutor (preferably a human rights activist from
> > outside The Gambia) to prosecute the perpetrators of the atrocities of
>April
> > 10, I was sending emails to the list for the appointment of such an
> > attorney. I believe in democracy and the rule of law. At the same time,
>am
> > not insensitive to the glaring plight of the Gambians and the seeming
> > hopelessness of trying to get rid of Yaya through the ballot box. I do
>not
> > think that (for lack of a better characterization) the Colly camp and
>your
> > camp are mutually exclusive. But rest assured that the same kind of
> > detractors that tried to pit Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. against
>Malcolm X
> > would try to convince you otherwise. Nelson Mandela was not a bad person
> > because he advocated violence against Apartheid. In fact, he engaged in
> > violent acts against the South African regime. Today, he is a hero
> > throughout the world. Violence in this context is not the end game as it
>is
> > right now in The Gambia. It is a means to an end (restoration of
>democracy
> > in The Gambia). All I am trying to say is, drastic actions call for
>drastic
> > reactions. Believe me, I would be the first one on Colly's or anybody
>else's
> > back if they get rid of Yaya and don't want to return the country to
> > democracy. Yaya should be removed by any means necessary. You don't have
>to
> > agree with Colly .....but he does not deserve denunciation from you
>either
> > ... not yet.
> >
> >
> >
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Howdy,
Way to go Dawda.
God Bless and Peace Be Upon All
Alasana Bah
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>Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:57:34 -0700
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>On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Rene Badjan wrote:
>
> > It is amazing that people hated this government with so much
>passion,
> > that we can entertain this kind of violent recourse to take over power.
>It
> > should happen once, but not twice.
>
>Howdy,
>
>Rene, I could not agree more. You have a very valid point. I think
>military insurgence to dislodge Jammeh is uncalled for and it is very
>irresponsible for one to even consider advocating such a measure. We can
>do better. It does not make sense to dig a hole to fill a hole. There
>are better ways, one of which is to increase public awareness into how
>corrupt and unpatriotic the affairs of the government are being conducted.
>I am sure Jammeh is not going to survive next election, that is if he did
>not resign before then.
>
> ...NO MORE MILITARY UPHEAVAL IN THE GAMBIA.
>
>Dawda Singhateh
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I am wondering if it is difficult to get a US visa.
Is anybody experienced with this?
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Mr Drammeh, Please save yourself, and the rest of us the agony of another
Tombong explanation. There will never be any answers to any of these
questions because those who would take the steps to conduct the needed
investigations are the guilty ones, so how will they ever investigate
themselves? The process that was started the very moment that these students
were murdered is the same that is continuing, namely, an unfolding theatre to
feign innocence and outrage, hypocritical visits and sympathising.
I tell you that the epitomy of evil was Jammeh and Njie saidy actually having
the nerve to visit grieving families and students, not to mention handing out
gifts. How does a person who is responsible for murdering a person's loved
one actually have the courage to appear before them to give their sympathy?
Wow? The evil we are witnessing in Gambia today is unmatched by anything we
have ever seen or heard of.We do not need to hear any more explanations from
this lot, they just need to be removed, one way or another.
I know that a lot of people have expressed dismay at the suggestion of their
removal by force. Well, if one lives by the sword, one shall die by the
sword, and this regime has no decency to resign because they are abhorred by
the Gambian public, nor will we ever see a fair election if they are still
there. Just revisit what Yankuba Touray said about never unseating a "Mansa"
and that they will never loose an election.
That does not sound like there will ever be a level playing field so long as
we have this bunch in positions where they can abuse power all they like
without any repercussion.
Never thought I would say this but, If there are courageous soldiers who can
stand up to save our country and are driven by conviction to return it to
normalcy by handing over to a civilian interim government, I will have a very
hard time resisting the temptation to cheer them on.
Question is, are they there among the GNA, or are they just a bunch of
puppets who act only when Jammeh pulls their strings, and is their gallantry
relegated to waging war against their compatriots and children who they are
supposed to be defending ?
Jabou Joh
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Tombong,
could you please help provide the answers for these questions please.
A.Drammeh.
culled from the Point paper.
Contradictions And Contradictions
We cannot understand that following Jammeh's address to the nation,
students would still be languishing in custody. We cannot understand that
after declaring a week of mourning, the students are still being held.
We cannot understand that while he was visiting the RVH praying for
wounded students, the others were still being held in detention.
We cannot also understand that the government's legal adviser(s) have
not told them that it is unconstitutional to continue to detain the students
for such a long time.
We cannot understand that the calls for full adherence to the rule of
rule are totally ignored, if not being treated with contempt.
We cannot understand that people who said that the dead are bandits
who deserved to die are still around.
We cannot understand that the talk of reconciliation is not matched by
the needed remedial measures that are being echoed and re-echoed by truthful
people like uncle Joachim Dacosta.
We cannot understand that rumours have it that families of dead
students are being visited and sympatished with, yet the students that
survived the carnage are still in custody.
We cannot understand that in this grave moment of our history, some
people are bent on pleasing, patronising instead of giving truthful and
proper remonstrances and advices.
We cannot understand that government has not yet set up an independent
commission of inquiry to deal with the problem.
We cannot understand that some bodies are still keeping mute.
The truth is, as the old man put it, whether it is known or unknown to
government, the vast majority of the people abhor what has taken place, and
are silently waiting to see what will be done to resolve this issue.
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Subject: DNA to unlock the past of black American slaves
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DNA to unlock the past of black American slaves=20
FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN WASHINGTON=20
Links | Out of Africa=20
=20
BLACK Americans whose ancestors were wrenched from their roots by =
the transatlantic slave trade will soon be able to pinpoint their =
African origins with a DNA test.=20
This summer geneticists at Howard University in Washington will =
begin matching blood tests to a database of DNA sequences taken from =
native African populations. The tests could enable millions of Americans =
to trace their original African homelands for the first time.=20
The survey has also revealed the extent of their European ancestry =
- principally a product of the rape and sexual exploitation of women =
slaves. Scientists on the project have already established that 30 per =
cent of African-American men are descended from Europeans on the =
father's side.=20
The study is the brainchild of Rick Kittles, a geneticist who says =
that the project will help to tell a history largely erased by the =
brutality of the trade in human life.=20
"This will definitely contribute a lot to understanding the =
history of African-Americans," Mr Kittles, 34, told The Boston Globe. =
"To a lot of blacks, knowing a little bit of the story is important."=20
Howard University has long used genetic data to examine diseases =
afflicting African-Americans, such as sickle-cell anaemia. Geneticists =
have now assembled a database of 3,200 samples from 40 distinct =
populations in West Africa, where most African-American slaves =
originated. The scientists plan to offer two tests, at a cost of $300 =
(about =A3190): one on mitochondrial DNA, handed down from mother to =
child, and the other for the Y chromosome, passed from father to son. =
The team has also extracted samples of European, American Indian, Asian =
and Hispanic DNA for cross- referencing of non-African genes.=20
Some academics have hailed the project as a breakthrough for black =
history comparable to the intense and emotional search for black =
ancestry prompted by the publication of Alex Haley's book Roots and its =
screening on television in the 1970s.=20
Richard Newman, of Harvard University's W. E. B. DuBois Institute =
for African-American Research, told the Globe: "It doesn't mean anything =
to know that some of my people come from Africa, but if I can pinpoint a =
culture, a religion and a language, then it can strengthen my sense of =
identity and relationship with Africa."=20
Historical records show that most early slaves came from West =
Central Africa: Ghana, Nigeria, Sierra Leone and Angola.=20
The DNA database details the tiny but distinctive mutations in DNA =
between different African populations, allowing geneticists to use a =
single modern blood sample as a historical fingerprint.=20
A website (africanancestry.com) will market the tests but Mr =
Kittles has already been receiving calls from Americans keen for a =
clearer glimpse of their origins.=20
"I think African-Americans will be receptive to this. Right from =
the start there has always been a spiritual link to Africa, though there =
was never any physical link," said Manisha Sinha, assistant professor of =
African-American studies at the University of Massachusetts.=20
The documentary evidence relating to slavery is limited at best, =
and whereas some black Americans have some knowledge of their origins, =
usually by word of mouth from their forebears, for most the African past =
is a blank.=20
Mr Kittles intends to broaden the database to identify more =
distinct African populations, expanding the scope and accuracy of his =
tests to the point where people will be able to trace their origins to a =
specific region and tribe.=20
The geneticist came across the idea for a database while =
excavating a burial site in New York, where he used DNA testing to =
establish that the uncovered remains were those of black slaves.=20
Sam Ford, one of Mr Kittles's subjects, said: "If you are from =
Europe, you know where your relatives probably came from, and if you are =
Native American, you know what tribe you are from, but if you are black =
and want to go to Africa, where do you go? At least now there is =
somewhere for me to go."=20
web-dubois.fas.harvard.edu=20
a.. W E B Du Bois Institute for Afro-American Research=20
www.howard.edu
b.. Howard University=20
=20
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A.Drammeh.
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ancestors=20
were wrenched from their roots by the transatlantic slave trade =
will soon=20
be able to pinpoint their African origins with a DNA test.=20
<P>This summer geneticists at Howard University in Washington will =
begin=20
matching blood tests to a database of DNA sequences taken from =
native=20
African populations. The tests could enable millions of Americans =
to trace=20
their original African homelands for the first time.=20
<P>The survey has also revealed the extent of their European =
ancestry -=20
principally a product of the rape and sexual exploitation of women =
slaves.=20
Scientists on the project have already established that 30 per =
cent of=20
African-American men are descended from Europeans on the father's =
side.=20
<P>The study is the brainchild of Rick Kittles, a geneticist who =
says that=20
the project will help to tell a history largely erased by the =
brutality of=20
the trade in human life.=20
<P>"This will definitely contribute a lot to understanding the =
history of=20
African-Americans," Mr Kittles, 34, told <I>The Boston Globe</I>. =
"To a=20
lot of blacks, knowing a little bit of the story is important."=20
<P>Howard University has long used genetic data to examine =
diseases=20
afflicting African-Americans, such as sickle-cell anaemia. =
Geneticists=20
have now assembled a database of 3,200 samples from 40 distinct=20
populations in West Africa, where most African-American slaves =
originated.=20
The scientists plan to offer two tests, at a cost of $300 (about =
=A3190):=20
one on mitochondrial DNA, handed down from mother to child, and =
the other=20
for the Y chromosome, passed from father to son. The team has also =
extracted samples of European, American Indian, Asian and Hispanic =
DNA for=20
cross- referencing of non-African genes.=20
<P>Some academics have hailed the project as a breakthrough for =
black=20
history comparable to the intense and emotional search for black =
ancestry=20
prompted by the publication of Alex Haley's book <I>Roots</I> and =
its=20
screening on television in the 1970s.=20
<P>Richard Newman, of Harvard University's W. E. B. DuBois =
Institute for=20
African-American Research, told the <I>Globe</I>: "It doesn't mean =
anything to know that some of my people come from Africa, but if I =
can=20
pinpoint a culture, a religion and a language, then it can =
strengthen my=20
sense of identity and relationship with Africa."=20
<P>Historical records show that most early slaves came from West =
Central=20
Africa: Ghana, Nigeria, Sierra Leone and Angola.=20
<P>The DNA database details the tiny but distinctive mutations in =
DNA=20
between different African populations, allowing geneticists to use =
a=20
single modern blood sample as a historical fingerprint.=20
<P>A website (africanancestry.com) will market the tests but Mr =
Kittles=20
has already been receiving calls from Americans keen for a clearer =
glimpse=20
of their origins.=20
<P>"I think African-Americans will be receptive to this. Right =
from the=20
start there has always been a spiritual link to Africa, though =
there was=20
never any physical link," said Manisha Sinha, assistant professor =
of=20
African-American studies at the University of Massachusetts.=20
<P>The documentary evidence relating to slavery is limited at =
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:33:46 -0500
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Subject: Re: Travel to America ?
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<html><head><meta Name='keywords' Content='commtouch, pronto, mail, free email, free, branded, web based, free web based email, communications, internet, software, advertising banners, e-mail, free software'></head><body ><div align='left'><font ><blockquote><blockquote><TT>I don't have the answer you need, but if you are in the Gambia, then <BR>
I suggest you go to the American Embassy and inquire about visa <BR>
requirements. Better yet, an informal source would be anybody <BR>
with "nerves", they are usually current in such issues. Good luck <BR>
with your inquiry.<BR>
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Chi Jaama<BR>
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Joe Sambou<BR>
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Truth can be tough to bear=20
BY BEN MACINTYRE=20
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FOR most African slaves, captivity erased the past. Shipped to =
America's plantations, black slaves were not only deprived of their =
freedom, but also, within a few generations, of any sense of ancestral =
history or culture.=20
Some of those participating in the Howard University project have =
found the results deeply rewarding.=20
Sam Ford, 46, was always told that he looked Nigerian, but it took =
a DNA test to prove it finally.=20
Mr Ford had already traced his lineage back to slaves owned by =
Native Americans in Oklahoma, but six weeks after taking the tests he =
learnt that his Y chromosome led to the area of Ibadan in southwest =
Nigeria. His ancestors on his father's side were probably of the Yoruba =
tribe, who lived in city states in slaving times.=20
On his mother's side, mitochondrial DNA indicated ancestry from =
the other side of the African continent, the area that is now Somalia =
and Ethiopia, and it suggested links to Niger and Guinea. Mr Ford, a =
reporter for WJLA television in Washington, is now planning a trip to =
Africa.=20
But the DNA tests can also be brutal in their accuracy. Rick =
Kittles, the geneticist behind the Howard University project, recalls =
the occasion when one volunteer arrived for the test in Nubian clothing, =
insisting that he was probably from Mali and claiming to be descended =
from the great Mandinka warrior tribe.=20
The Y chromosome test, however, showed that his ancestry in the =
male line extended instead to Germany, as does the genetic fingerprint =
of Mr Kittles himself, while on his mother's side he shares genetic =
traits with modern Nigerians.=20
Almost one third of African males have a white ancestor, often =
evidence that a slave ancestor was either a rape victim or the mistress =
of a white man.=20
Those who do find an African homeland through their genes may also =
face eventual disappointment. With the passage of three centuries or =
more, some may find they now have nothing in common with their African =
cousins apart from genes.=20
culled from the times uk
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<TD width=3D370><!--start main body text-->FOR most African slaves,=20
captivity erased the past. Shipped to America's plantations, black =
slaves=20
were not only deprived of their freedom, but also, within a few=20
generations, of any sense of ancestral history or culture.=20
<P>Some of those participating in the Howard University project =
have found=20
the results deeply rewarding.=20
<P>Sam Ford, 46, was always told that he looked Nigerian, but it =
took a=20
DNA test to prove it finally.=20
<P>Mr Ford had already traced his lineage back to slaves owned by =
Native=20
Americans in Oklahoma, but six weeks after taking the tests he =
learnt that=20
his Y chromosome led to the area of Ibadan in southwest Nigeria. =
His=20
ancestors on his father's side were probably of the Yoruba tribe, =
who=20
lived in city states in slaving times.=20
<P>On his mother's side, mitochondrial DNA indicated ancestry from =
the=20
other side of the African continent, the area that is now Somalia =
and=20
Ethiopia, and it suggested links to Niger and Guinea. Mr Ford, a =
reporter=20
for WJLA television in Washington, is now planning a trip to =
Africa.=20
<P>But the DNA tests can also be brutal in their accuracy. Rick =
Kittles,=20
the geneticist behind the Howard University project, recalls the =
occasion=20
when one volunteer arrived for the test in Nubian clothing, =
insisting that=20
he was probably from Mali and claiming to be descended from the =
great=20
Mandinka warrior tribe.=20
<P>The Y chromosome test, however, showed that his ancestry in the =
male=20
line extended instead to Germany, as does the genetic fingerprint =
of Mr=20
Kittles himself, while on his mother's side he shares genetic =
traits with=20
modern Nigerians.=20
<P>Almost one third of African males have a white ancestor, often =
evidence=20
that a slave ancestor was either a rape victim or the mistress of =
a white=20
man.=20
<P>Those who do find an African homeland through their genes may =
also face=20
eventual disappointment. With the passage of three centuries or =
more, some=20
may find they now have nothing in common with their African =
cousins apart=20
from genes.=20
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 00:05:33 CEST
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Unfortunately, the demonstartion planned for today could not take place as
we failed to obtain a police permit due to the Easter Holidays.
(This was explained at our Sunday 23rd meeting).
Landing Sanyang is working on the issue of a permit for Saturday and the
Stockholm Police have promised it would be ready by Friday.
In that case the demonstration will take place at:
SERGELS TORG, 14.30 - 16.30 (SATURDAY, APRIL 29TH)
On another note:
Donations are still being collected but for those of you far from Stockholm
you may kindly effect payment to the following post-girot account:
PG. NR: 29 97 47 - 6
Account Owner (must be specified on pay-in slip):
NORRA JÄRVA GAMBISKA FÖRENING
Please specify on pay-in slip: "Gambia Solidarity Fund".
Swedish Television has promised to consider covering the demonstration.
They admitted that they had prioritised "worse news" from Africa during the
past two weeks.
If you would like to lodge a complaint and harass them for not showing
anything on the Gambian Tragedy, you may call to:
Bo Inge Andersson at (Utrikes redaktionen) TV2 (Tel: (08)784 7700
And Finally,
My "utfors" server has become problem-prone during the past two weeks and so
this time round, I am unable to receive personal mails posted to me during
the past 36 hours. So pleae kindly use this hotmail add. and resend anything
private.
Mats Utbult, please kindly get in touch as soon as you can.
Momodou S Sidibeh
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:24:28 -0700
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YAYA MUST GO
I just can’t believe that there are Gambians out
there, still trying to treat Yaya’s government as a
reasonable establishment. How could anyone think that
the APRC government would provide the logical answers
to the contradictory questions raised in the latest
Point Newspaper publications? If you think the
government would come up with the reasonable answers
about why Yaya is pretending to look fair and good on
one side by trying to comfort the families of the
victims of the massacre, but on the other side he
continues to act like the devil he is by illegally
detaining several other poor students, you must be
living in a dream world. What most of you fail to
understand is that Yaya measures the mentality of
every Gambian by the degree of the inept head he
carries over his shoulders. He is not at all
intelligent; thus he treats every person by his level
of thinking. Unfortunately, those around him would
keep on telling him that he is way in the sky even
when his tail is on fire in a hole below the earth.
All I have to say anyway is that the idiot is living
on borrowed time. He is already finish.
Having said that, I still want to add a few lines by
answering few questions. While we were in the army we
could not overthrow Yaya because there was no apparent
reason to do so. We were professional soldiers who
served with all those military ethics, codes and
principles well respected in the job we did. Yaya knew
that he could not have been crazy in our time to give
us such unlawful orders to shoot and kill school
children. That would have the order toend his
administration. We had conscience and strongly
believed in god and Yaya knew that very well. If Yaya
had ordered us to shoot kids as young as three, we
would have smoked him instead rather than commit that
heinous crime in the name of soldiering. That is why,
like every reasonable person, we think that he belongs
in jail and not to head a nation. Child killers cannot
be allowed to roam civilized streets much more heading
the nation of god-fearing humans like Gambians. So
don’t disturb us with what we should or should not
have done in our past careers.
To also think that Yaya would easily relinquish power
in the wake of losing in a general election is another
sad dream nurtured in some naive heads. For some of
you who still cannot get the point, you need to now
understand that Yaya is among those foolish dictators
who have the absurd notion that the country belongs to
them and them alone. Beside, he would certainly be
reluctant to leave because his hands are seriously
steeped in blood and his pockets full of booty. He
knows that all his past gory misdeeds would be
exposed. Hence he would cling to power regardless of
the cost or consequence. That therefore leaves no
choice but to dislodge him in the very manner he got
himself that seat. Historians on African politics have
long codified the statistics that between 1957 and
1990 there were 150 heads of state in the continent
but only six had ever relinquish power voluntarily.
Discount Yaya from the honorable category of the
legacy of those six.
Landing Jatta and Kebba Dampha, I must commend you for
your courage and determination. You are admirable
heroes in my camp. You must never lose sight of the
fact that we are the last hopes. Arguments of various
kinds would continue to be forwarded to dampen our
spirits but you must maintain the positive position.
We are definitely on the right track. YAYA MUST GO BY
ALL MEANS!!!!
Ebou Colly.
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Saine, I hope this helps to address some of the concers raised by you and
the original sender of this message. The Coroner's job in this matter is
quite simple. His primary task is to determine the cause of the death of
those who died in this unfortunate incident. His charging powers are merely
ancillary (I don't mean to minimize these powers though). What I am trying
to say is that, even if he does not hand down indictments, that does not
render the perpetrators of these heinous crimes scot-free. The ultimate
decision of deciding whether to charge these criminals and the crimes to
prosecute them for, is within the purview of the attorney general and the
independent prosecutor he is going to appoint.
The Coroner's report should contain findings as to whether the deaths
resulted from gunshot wounds. Proverbial piece of cake. Surely, the
pathologist(s) that conducted the autopsies can tell the difference between
death resulting from gunshot wounds and death resulting from injuries
sustained from stone and stick throwing.
Ousman Jammeh can therefore call the pathologist(s) in order to establish
what type of instrument caused the death of those brave children. Upon
determining that the deaths were caused by bullet wounds, Ousman Jammeh
should then call ballistics experts to tell us what type of bullets were
used. The next step is to determine where the bullets came from. Ousman
Jammeh should call the person(s) in charge of distributing arms and
ammunitions to tell us what barracks/camp/police station the ammunitions
identified by the ballistics expert came from. This testimony can be done
without compromising 'national security' secrets. Once the locations of the
ammunitions that were used in this incident are identified, the task of
identifying those who were in possession of those bullets on that fateful
day would begin.
This brings us to the charging powers of the Coroner. The only question
Ousman Jammeh has to ask himself is …. Who should stand trial to answer for
the murder of our children in broad daylight? As you can see, this is a very
low threshold. At this stage, we are not determining guilt or innocence. So
we are not talking about proof beyond a reasonable doubt as to who committed
these atrocities. We are only talking about who should appear before a court
of law to defend himself or herself in the face of evidence saying that he
or she committed murder. I realize that this is a serious affair and I do
not mean to suggest that charging someone with the murder of 15 or more
children should be taken lightly. All am saying is that there is a big
difference between saying that someone should stand trial for a crime and
saying that someone is guilty of a crime. Needless to say, the former does
not require an elaborate inquiry.
What Ousman Jammeh is being asked to do is what is done by grand juries in
The United States everyday. Those of us who are junkies of courtroom dramas
on TV would be familiar with the American slang that 'a grand jury can even
indict a ham sandwich'. Simply put, deciding whether to indict someone for
the murder of our children on April 10 is not rocket science.
The real work begins when and if an INDEPENDENT prosecutor is appointed.
That prosecutor can conduct further investigations and beef up charges to
include conspiracy charges and other inchoate offences. These are the
charges that should lead us to the ultimate culprits. As I mentioned in an
earlier piece I wrote to the L, I am not that familiar with the Gambian
constitution to know whether Yaya and other members of the executive who
might be implicated in this are immune from prosecution while they are in
office. I defer to seasoned constitutional lawyers on this matter. Suffice
for me to say though, the independent prosecutor should still go ahead and
indict Yaya and others and have them come to court and hide behind the
constitution. One can strongly argue that even if they are immune from
prosecution for actions done in their official capacities, killing children
or ordering the killing of children cannot be within the 'official
capacities' of Yaya and his gang. I doubt though whether the judges in The
Gambia (who are mainly foreigners) have either the political will or the
integrity to accept this type of argument. But that's okay. What dragging
Yaya to court will achieve is, it will show everyone in The Gambia and
beyond what these people are capable of doing.
To wrap up, I think we should:
1. Ensure that Ousman Jammeh comes back with concrete and legitimate
findings regarding the cause of death.
2. Ensure that Ousman Jammeh charges the soldiers who shot those fatal
bullets.
3. Ensure that Ousman Jammeh hands over the findings in his report to the
independent prosecutor.
4. Ensure (most important of all) that an INDEPENDENT PROSECUTOR (of the
utmost integrity) is appointed to investigate and prosecute this case. If a
commission of inquiry is appointed, as suggested by some, we should make
sure that that the enabling laws setting up such a body would give the
commission punitive powers. However, I prefer the appointment of an
independent prosecutor to try this case before our regular courts.
>From: Abdoulaye Saine <[log in to unmask]>
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Powers of the Coroner
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:19:53 -0400
>
>Mr. Halifa Sallah:
>
>Thanks for the fine posting on "Powers of the Coroner." I did like you
>to also discuss SECTION 11 of the Coroner's Act. Under POWER OF
>SUSPICION OF COMMISSION OF OFFENSE, reference is made to sec.11.
>Sect.9(2) clearly empowers the Coroner to issue "summons or warrant for
>his arrest(i.e., the known person who has committed an offense), or take
>such steps as may be necessary to secure his attendance to answer such
>charge."
>
>Contrary to the public statements made by the recently-appointed
>Coroner, his powers go beyond establishing cause(s)of death.
>
>A possible interpretation of this section and other relevant sections of
>the Act is that, if the facts could be established before, during or
>(even) after the end of the inquest as to who gave the ORDER to "open
>fire" on the demonstrators, that person or persons could be brought
>before the coroner "to answer such charge."
>
>Coroner Yahya Jammeh has already laid the ground work for a total
>white-wash which many people in Gambia saw coming(see "Hamat Bah Takes
>Jammeh To Task" THE POINT, TUESDAY 25 APRIL).
>
>Sources tell me from Banjul, that people are not interested in a
>Coroner's Inquest, because they already know that these kids, and Omar
>Barrow were gunned down by the security forces. This is also Hamat Bah's
>implication in his POINT article. What people want to know in earnest
>is when the Commission of Inquiry will be established.
>
>Your comments are welcome and appreciated.
>
>
>Additionally, I urge all to write to Ambassador Akrouf, UNDP REP. in
>Gambia,([log in to unmask]) and send the petitions that would then
>be hand delivered to Secretary-General Annan.
>
>Abdoulaye
>No justice, no peace!
>Jammeh Must Go!
>foroyaa wrote:
> >
> > Post Mortem is crucial in determining the cause of death in an inquiry.
> > Hence, section 4 (1) of the Coroner's Act empowers the Coroner to order
>the
> > post mortem examination of the deceased. It states:
> >
> > "Whenever an inquiry into the cause of death of any person is required
>to be
> > held under the provisions of this Act, a Coroner may, subject to any
>rule
> > made under this Act, direct a medical officer or other duly qualified
> > medical practitioners to hold a post mortem examination of the deceased
> > person."
> >
> > The Coroner also has power to suspend burial to enable the 'post mortem
> > examination to be done. Hence, section 4 (2) states:
> >
> > "A Coroner may prohibit the burial of any dead body within the
>territorial
> > limits of his jurisdiction until an inquiry under this Act shall have
>been
> > held."
> >
> > Even after burial, if necessary, the Coroner may order the examination
>of
> > the dead body as states in subsection (3) "Wherever a Coroner deems it
> > expedient in order to discover the cause of death or make an examination
>of
> > the dead body of any person who has already been interred, he may order
>such
> > body to be exhumed and examined."
> >
> > POWERS WHEN DEATH OCCURS IN CUSTODY
> >
> > According to section 6, subsection (2), when any person dies while in
>the
> > custody of the police or of a prison officer or in prison or when
>detained
> > in any place under the provisions of the Lunatics Detention Act or of
>the
> > Criminal Procedure Code, "a Coroner may, subject to the provisions of
> > section 11 of this Act, hold an inquiry, either instead of or in
>addition to
> > the investigation held by the police officer."
> >
> > POWER ON SUSPICION OF COMMISSION OF OFFENCE
> >
> > According to section 9 (2) of the Act, "Subject to the provisions of
>section
> > 11 of this Act, if before or at the termination of any such inquiry a
> > Coroner is of the opinion that the commission of an offence by some
>known
> > person has been disclosed, he shall issue a summons or warrant for his
> > arrest, or take such other steps as may be necessary to secure his
> > attendance to answer such charge."
> >
> > What happens when such accused person appears before a Coroner? The
> > subsection goes on to say "On the attendance of the said person, the
>Coroner
> > shall commence the inquiry de novo and shall proceed in the manner
>provided
> > in Part VI of the Criminal Procedure Code for holding a preliminary
>inquiry
> > into an offence."
> >
> > In fact, subsection (1) of section 9 of the Act states: "Notwithstanding
>the
> > repeal of Part VI and section 236 of the Criminal Procedure Code and
>save as
> > otherwise provided in this Act, a Coroner holding an inquiry under this
>Act
> > shall exercise all powers conferred by that Code upon a Magistrate
>holding a
> > preliminary inquiry into an offence, as if those provisions had not been
> > repealed."
> >
> > Furthermore, it is stipulated in section 12 of the Act that ".... if any
> > person is brought before a Coroner charged with murder, manslaughter, or
> > infanticide, such Coroner shall have the like powers as to committing
>that
> > person for trial before the Supreme Court as might be exercised under
>the
> > Criminal Procedure Code by a Magistrate if such person were charged
>before a
> > Magistrate."
> >
> > The question now arises: What powers does this part confer on the
>Coroner?
> >
> > DISCHARGE OF ACCUSED PERSON
> >
> > Section 184 of the Criminal Procedure Code states: "If the court
>considers
> > that the evidence against the accused person is not sufficient to put
>him on
> > his trial, the court shall forthwith order him to be discharged as to
>the
> > particular charge under inquiry; but such charge shall not be a bar to
>any
> > subsequent charge in respect of the same facts:
> >
> > "Provided always that nothing contained in this section shall prevent
>the
> > court from either forthwith, or after such adjournment of the inquiry as
>may
> > seem expedient in the interests of justice, proceeding to investigate
>any
> > other charge upon which the accused person may have been summoned or
> > otherwise brought before it, or which, in the course of the charge in
> > respect of which that accused person has been discharged as aforesaid,
>it
> > may appear that the accused person has committed."
> >
> > COMMITMENT FOR TRIAL
> >
> > The Coroner may on the other hand think there is enough evidence to
>commit
> > the accused for trial. Hence, section 185 of the Code states: "If the
>court
> > considers the evidence sufficient to put the accused person on his
>trial,
> > the court shall commit him for trial to the Supreme Court and shall,
>until
> > the trial, either admit him to bail or send him to prison for
>safe-keeping.
> > The warrant of such first-named court shall be sufficient authority to
>the
> > officer in charge of any prison appointed for the custody of prisons
> > committed for trial, although out of the jurisdiction of such court."
> >
> > The Coroner may be of the opinion that an offence has been committed by
>an
> > unknown person. Hence section 9 (3) of the Coroner's Act states: "If at
>the
> > termination of the inquiry the Coroner is of opinion that an offence has
> > been committed by some person or persons unknown, he shall record his
> > opinion accordingly."
> >
> > What if the Coroner is of the opinion has been committed? Section 9 (4)
> > states "If at the termination of the inquiry the Coroner is of opinion
>that
> > no offence has been committed, he shall record his opinion accordingly."
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:12:20 +0100
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HIGH COURT ORDERS THE RELEASE OF 20 STUDENTS
Following the events of 10 April 2000, many student were arrested and
detained. Some were released, but some were still detained.
On 20 April 2000, The Gambia Student Association filed an originating
summons against the Inspector General of Police and the Attorney General
seeking for the following declarations and orders:
a) A declaration that the arrest and detention of Pa Alasan Ceesay, Sainabou
Jaye, Lamin Jobe, Alajie Camara, Ebrima Daffeh, Abdou Sonko, Kaddy Njie,
Musa Jobarteh, Omar Joof, Nakulang Ceesay, Baboucarr Ann, Alieu Khan,
Baboucarr Jonga, Alajie Darboe, Lamin Jadama, Abdou Sonko, Lamin Touray,
Alieu Krubally, Kebba Jallow and Janko Dibba is wrong, and is in
contravention of the constitution;
b) An order directing the unconditional release of these 20 students by the
Inspector General of Police and the Attorney General without further delay;
c) An injunction against the Inspector General of Police, his agents and
servants prohibiting them from interfering or in any way fettering the
liberty of these 20 students.
Hearing took place at the High Court before Justice Sey on Wednesday, 26
April 2000.
The Director of Public Prosecution, Ms Atiba Davies represented the Attorney
General and the Inspector General of Police while the applicant was
represented by a team of lawyers led by Mr Ousman Sillah.
When the case was announced, Ms Atiba Davies applied for an adjournment
because, as she said, she received the application the day before. The judge
turned down the application on the ground that what was before her was not a
motion but an originating summons and that the issue concerned fundamental
rights.
In arguing in support of the motion, Mr Sillah pointed out that the
application was brought in the form of an originating summons. Under
sections 5, 17, 19, 21, 24, 25 and 37 of the Constitution, and the
application was supported by a 31 paragraph affidavit.
Mr Sillah then went through each paragraph. In the end, he noted that the
alleged torture cases will be addressed in due course.
RULING
In her ruling, the judge ordered the respondents to forthwith release the 20
detained students unconditionally; that there should be no interference with
their liberty as they are not charged.
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CORONER'S INQUEST ON THE DEATH OF 12 PERSONS STARTS
On Monday, 24 April 2000, barely two weeks after the events of 10 April
2000, the inquest on the death of 12 persons has started in earnest before
the Coroner at the High Court in Banjul. The Coroner is Mr Ousman Jammeh and
he sits at Court Room No. 1 at the High Court. The 12 victims concerned are:
Abdoulie Sanyang; Momodou Lamin Njie; Unidentified Deceased Persons;
Baboucarr Badjie; Calisco Priera; Karamo Barrow; Reginald Carrol; Omar
Barrow; Wuyeh Mansally; Muhammed Lamin Chune; Lamin A. Bojang; Ousman
Sabally.
PROCEEDING OF 24 APRIL 2000
In his opening statement, the Coroner said that his role was to inquire into
the causes of the deaths of the 12 victims.
Eleven witnesses who identified the bodies of the victims at the mortuary
testified on 24 April.
TESTIMONY OF KEBBA SANYANG
Kebba Sanyang, father of Abdoulie Sanyang, told the Coroner that he lives in
Old Jeshwang; that Abdoulie Sanyang (deceased) was his son; that he was
three years old and was living with him at his home; that Abdoulie met his
death outside his compound at Old Jeshwang between 9 a.m. and 12 noon.
He said his compound has two gates; that he was standing at one of them with
the late Abdoulie; that upon observation of the students/paramilitary
movement he told him to get into the compound; that although he got in he
got out through the other gate where other members of the compound, men,
women and children were standing; that as the movement of the paramilitary
and the students drew near, the crowd rushed and the deceased, Abdoulie,
fell, got up and fell, got up and fell again.
He said he died instantly; that he was picked up and taken to the RVH by a
neighbour, Abdoulie Kujabi; that he received the body on 12 April and buried
him the same day.
TESTIMONY OF BABA NJIE
Baba Njie, uncle of Lamin Njie, lives in Brikama; that he is a farmer; that
he was the uncle and the guardian of the late Lamin Njie; that Lamin was
attending GTTI and residing at Ebo Town; that he died on 10 April during
events of 10 April; that on Thursday, 13 April he identified the body at the
mortuary at RVH; that the body was laid to rest at Bulock on Friday, 14
April 2000.
TESTIMONY OF SANG PIERRE MENDY
Sang Pierre Mendy, in his testimony, said that he is a security officer and
lives at New Jeshwang; that he knew Calisco Priera; that they are not
related but that the mother lives in his compound; that he together with the
sister of Calisco's mother identified Calisco's body at the mortuary at RVH;
that he does not know the age and nationality of the deceased; that Calisco'
s mother is called Marie Therese Sonko.
TESTIMONY OF MARIE THERESE SONKO
Marie Therese Sonko, Calisco's mother, later confirmed that the deceased was
her son who was born in 1982; that because he suffered from polio for the
first three years he started school late; that he was a student at St.
Charles Luwanga but could not go to school this year because he had not paid
his fees. She said that the body had been laid to rest.
TESTIMONY OF MAFUGY BADGIE
Mafugy Badjie, uncle of Burama Badgie, told the Coroner that he was the
uncle of the deceased; that the father, Bubacarr Badgie was very sick; that
Bunama was 10 years and was attending Tallinding Primary School; that he
died on Monday, 10 April; that they learnt of the death on Wednesday, 12
April; that he identified the body in Banjul and when they got the body they
buried him on the same day.
TESTIMONY OF MUSA COKER, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GAMBIA RED CROSS SOCIETY ON
OMAR BARROW
Mr Coker said that he lives at Kanifing Housing Estate and was a nurse by
profession. He said further that he knew the late Omar Barrow as a volunteer
of the Red Cross Movement; that he does not know his age but he knew that he
was married with a family.
He told the Coroner that he saw Omar at the Red Cross helping the wounded
and that while in his office he heard gun shots in the street and people
running from the Mobile Police Station end to the Red Cross; that he
suddenly heard a loud cry in Wollof "they have shot Omar"; that on coming
out he found Omar lying on his back outside the office block surrounded by
volunteers inside the camp; that he was later moved to the corridor of the
office then to the RVH in Banjul.
He said he had identified the body on 12 April and was buried on the same
day.
TESTIMONY OF BASSIROU BARROW
Bassirou Barrow, father of Karamo Barrow, said he is a fitter and lives in
Ebo Town; that the late Karamo was going to ICE High School and was born in
1976. He said Karamo was his first son; that he last saw Karamo in the
morning of 10 April 2000; that he learnt of the death later in the day; that
at about 2 p.m. on 11 April they identified the body; that on 12 April, the
body was handed over to them and was buried on the same day.
TESTIMONY OF JOSEPH B. CARROL
Mr Joseph B. Carrol, father of Reginald Carrol, told the Coroner that he was
living at Latrikunda Yiriyanga; that Reginald was doing computer studies at
FBI at Old Jeshwang; that he was his son; that he left for Banjul on 10
April in the morning to cash a cheque; that he was later called by his wife
who told him that Reginald had not returned home and his whereabouts was not
known; that he said he had asked her to come and meet him in Banjul so that
they can check at the RVH, where they later got the information of his
death; that they were informed that he died during the students riot; that
on Tuesday he was informed by the surgeon that his child died of gunshot
wounds; that after receiving the body he discovered wounds and that he was
finally buried on 17 April 2000.
TESTIMONY OF SAINEY GINGALLY
The seventh person to give evidence was the grandfather of Wuyeh Mansally,
Sainey Gingally, who claimed that he received the body on Wednesday, 12
April 2000 and took to Casamance where he was buried.
Sainey Gingally claimed that Wuyeh was born in Senegal and had only come
here to study Arabic at the Tallinding Islamic Institute; that Wuyeh was
born in 1980.
TESTIMONY OF MBYE CHUNE
The eight witness was one Mbye Chune, the father of the late Momodou Lamin
Chune; he said that M.L. Chune was his first born and was 15 years old; that
he was attending Latrikunda Junior Secondary School; that he got information
of the death of his son from his fellow students that he had been shot at
their school gate; that after two days search for the body they discovered
him at the mortuary of the RVH and received the body on 12 April 2000 and
buried the same day at 5 p.m.
TESTIMONY OF ABDOULIE BOJANG
Mr Abdoulie Bojang of Tallinding gave testimony that he is the father of
Lamin Abdoulie Bojang of Nusrat Senior Secondary School who is now deceased;
that he is his first son and child; that he was found to be killed on Monday
10 April, 2000.
He said that he went on a trek to Basse on the preceding Saturday; that he
learnt about the students incident and returned on that Monday; that he
arrived in the evening and having learnt about his son not being seen home
since after he went to school in the morning, he rushed to one Lamin Jarjue,
his son's classmate to enquire; that he was told that they were together in
school for their exams but were later dispersed when some other students
stormed their school and they then headed towards Serrekunda through the
Brikama Highway and during which commotion they lost each other in the
crowd.
Mr Bojang continued that upon hearing this he decided to proceed with his
wife to the RVH in Banjul but first passed through the police station to
check whether he was detained, but he was not there; that at the RVH he was
shown a list of patients but the name of his son was not there; that it was
there that he was informed about the death of his son; that he requested to
see the body but was denied access; that he managed to see the body of his
son who was shot at the back of his head on 11 April 2000; that there were
also bruises on the face which might have been sustained when he fell down;
that they were there up to 4.30 p.m. but were not allowed to collect the
body; that it was on Wednesday, 12 April at around 12.30 p.m; that they
were given the body which was later taken and buried in Jamburr the same
day.
He indicated that he saw the body after an autopsy was already performed on
it.
PROCEEDING OF 25 APRIL 2000
TESTIMONY OF MR ALPHA BAH
The next witness to testify on Tuesday, 25 April 2000 was Mr Alpha Bah,
guardian of the late Ousman Sabally of Kerewan Samba Sireh in the CRD.
Mr Bah stated that Ousman Sabally was his ward and nephew; that he died at
Bansang Hospital as a result of the students incident in Brikamaba where he
was attending school; that he was shot and rushed to Bansang Hospital by him
and other relatives; that this incident occurred on Tuesday, 11 April 2000;
that he was 15 years old; that they received the body on the following day
Wednesday for burial; that he was since buried; that he was in grade 8; that
he saw the body as he was bleeding profusely on both the chest and the back;
that he was in school uniform.
TESTIMONY OF MUSTAPHA KUJABIE
He told the Coroner that he lives in Old Jeshwang and his occupation is
masonry; that Kebba Sanyang is his neighbour and that Abdoulie Sanyang is
Kebba Sanyang's son; that he is an infant; that on 10 April 2000, he heard
some gun shots and came out of his compound and saw people running; that he
saw the police dispersing the students and went back into his compound; that
forty five minutes later, a woman came to him to seek assistance; that when
he went he saw the deceased; that he took him to the Royal Victoria
Hospital; that the hospital staff confirmed that the child was dead.
TESTIMONY OF INSPECTOR JOBE
Inspector Biran Jobe told the Coroner that he is part of the Serious Crime
Squad; that on 10 April 2000 he was at GTTI where there was a students'
demonstration; that he returned to the police headquarters at about 11.00
and was assigned to the RVH to look after victims involved in the students'
demonstration; that on the morning of 11 April, 2000, he went to the
mortuary where he found some corpses and he had cause to prepare some forms
to enable autopsy to be done on the bodies before burial; that at that time
not all bodies had been identified; that after the authorisation the said
forms were handed over to the pathologist; that they had 11 bodies that day;
that all the bodies were later identified except one which is yet to be
identified; that the number given to that deceased was PM 44/2000; that he
is a male; that it was difficult to identify where he was found; that no
information is available as to who escorted him to the hospital; that the
Criminal Records Office of the Police Headquarters took photographs of all
the bodies in the mortuary.
At this point, he applied to tender six photographs together with their
negatives of the unidentified body. They were admitted and marked
A,B,C,D,E,F,
He went on to say that they issued notices at the public notices at police
stations but up to now no one has come forward; that he had to go back to
the Coroner to obtain authority to dispose of the unidentified body; that it
has now been laid to rest at the Old Jeshwang cemetery.
At this stage, at the request of the Coroner, he tendered the photographs of
the other eleven bodies.
He said that apart the autopsies were carried out by Dr Omar Sam and Dr
Sorhegui Rafael.
CROSS EXAMINATION
After examination by counsel, Abdoulie Bojang, father of Lamin Bojang, cross
examined Inspector Jobe. He asked Inspector Jobe why he failed to ask him to
witness the autopsy of his son. In response, Mr Jobe said that this was the
first time he was assigned such a task; that it was the relatives who
requested to witness the autopsy.
TESTIMONY OF DR SORHEGUI RAFAEL
He told the Coroner that he is from Cuba; that he is a pathologist at the
RVH and has been there for 10 months; that he has been a pathologist since
1976; that he received a request from the police for an autopsy on 11 April
2000; that the request forms bore the names of the deceased persons.
He was asked to read out the names and he read out the following names:
Abdoulie Sanyang; Burama Badgie and Wuyeh Mansally. Upon request he tendered
the forms in evidence.
He said further that he performed autopsies on the bodies of these deceased
persons on 11 April 2000 and that he was assisted by Dr Sam, the pathologist
in charge.
He then proceeded to inform the Coroner about his findings:
1. ABDOULIE SANYANG: In the external examination there was no damage or
wound and no evidence of chronic disease.
Internal examination: He indicated injuries and swellings in the left lungs.
As to the cause of death, Dr Rafael indicated that the left pulmonary vein
crushed; that it could have been pressed physically.
2. BURAMA BADGIE: Examination revealed that the deceased sustained gun shot
wounds from the back causing loss of blood and damage to the lungs.
The doctor proceeded to say that the cause of death was massive haemorrhage;
that two wounds were visible: entry point at the right upper chest and at
the back.
The counsel asked the doctor to tell the court whether the entry point of
20mm and exit of 30mm is due to a live bullet or a blank bullet. In
response, he said it was due to a live bullet; that it cannot be sutured;
that in the cause of examination he did not come across any bullet in the
body because of the speed.
Asked whether he had any experience to have an idea as to the type of bullet
used, he answered in the negative.
3. WUYEH MANSALLY: Dr Rafael told the inquest that Wuyeh Mansally was aged
19 years; that he had sustained a wound on the right side of his neck of
length 25mm; that the wound penetrated the left jaw causing the jaw to
fracture around the exit; that as a result of the force of the bullet moving
at high speed the tongue was cut at the main joint around the gullet.
Dr Rafael went on to indicate that as a result of this there was serious
bleeding which led to Mansally's immediate death. When asked if the wound
was caused by a live bullet, he answered in the positive. Asked further
whether the bullet was fired at close range, he said that it can be
estimated to have been fired from a range of about 13 metres. He was also
asked why the exit of the wound was larger than the penetration, he said
that it was due to the high velocity at which the bullet was travelling;
that this forced small particles of bones around the fractured area of the
jaw to go out with the bullet.
He was also asked if the other parts of the body were affected and he
answered in the negative. He was asked if a rubber bullet can cause a
penetrating wound, he answered in the positive but noted that it cannot have
the same impact as a live bullet.
PROCEEDING OF 26 APRIL 2000
Testimony of Dr Omar Sam
Dr Sam told the court that he lives at Kotu and is a pathologist at the RVH;
that on 1 April he conducted 8 autopsies and another one on 22 April
relating to Ousman Sabally at Kerewan Samba Sireh, CRD; that this was as a
result of the request from the Coroner; that all the autopsies were related
to the incident of 10 April; that they were all conducted at the RVH except
one which was conducted at Kerewan Samba Sireh, CRD; that he was assisted by
mortuary assistants at the RVH; that not all bodies have been identified;
that there is still one body which is not yet identified.
He told the Coroner that he conducted autopsy on Momodou Lamin Njie; Calisco
Priera; Karamo Barrow; Reginald Carrol; Omar Barrow; Momodou Lamin Chune;
Lamin A. Bojang and Ousman Sabally.
He performed the following tests on the deceased persons: X-rays, blood
test, urine test, external examination, systematic internal examination and
special test. He told the Coroner that he undertook all four stages.
Upon the request of the Coroner, he went on to explain his findings as
follows:
1. MOMODOU LAMIN NJIE: X-Ray showed fracture of the right ribs. External
examination showed that he was 145 centimetres tall.
First wound: Collar bone. Second wound: Ribs
Amputation of the left pulmonary artillery (Internal Examination).
He attributed the cause of death to massive haemorrhage from the perforating
wounds of the left lung, injury to the aorta from a gun shot and penetration
through two rib cages.
He said further that from experience these wounds can only be caused by gun
shots; that it is only a modern weapon that can cause this and that the
extent of tissue damage including dislodged fractures can only be caused by
a high velocity weapon.
Asked whether there is any basic difference between rubber bullets and live
bullets, he said that rubber bullets cause minimal abrasion; that live
bullets damage soft tissues. He said further that in this case, it was only
a high power and high velocity live bullet which caused the multiple wounds.
QUESTION: So, the cause of death is a live bullet?
ANSWER: Yes.
CROSS EXAMINATION
Kitimo Njie, under of M.L. Njie, asked why parents were not allowed to see
the bodies before autopsy. In response, Dr Sam said that this was a forensic
postmortem requested by the Inspector General of Police, with the
authorisation of the Coroner and not a medical postmortem for which they
would have been directly responsible.
2. CALISCO PRIERA: According to Dr Sam, his body shows fractures at the cage
rib at the back. External examination shows that he was a male teenager;
that two external wounds were evident. One at the region of the cage rib at
the back and the other at the front rib.
Cause of death was rupture of heart and massive haemorrhage due to gun shot
wounds in the thorax.
Calisco's mother, Mrs Ann Marie Therese Ndey Sonko asked whether it was a
live bullet that killed her son. The Coroner indicated that this was the
conclusion of the doctor was.
3. KARAMO BARROW: According to Dr Sam, Karamo, the X-Ray showed fractured
rib; that two fresh wounds were identified on the chest.
Cause of death: Penetrating chest wound with perforation of right lung and
massive haemorrhage due to gun shots.
Asked by the Coroner why are bullets are not lodged in the body, Dr Sam said
it was because of the high velocity of the bullets, but that there is a case
of a lodged bullet.
Bassirou Barrow, father of the deceased said he wanted to know whether a
live bullet or a rubber bullet killed his son. In response, the pathologist
said that the features he had seen are characteristics of live bullets.
4. REGINALD CARROL: Dr Sam told the Coroner that the X-Ray was
unfortunately poor; that he identified two wounds on the chest - one on the
right mid chest and the other at the left lower chest.
Cause of death: Massive haemorrhage from perforating wounds of right lung,
heart, liver and stomach as a result of gun shot wounds.
The Coroner enquired about wounding agents. Dr Sam said that the wounding
agent is a high velocity single bullet; that the entry was from back to the
front.
He also indicated that some aspect of bleeding was controlled through
earlier surgery.
The Coroner asked whether it would have been possible to save his life. Dr
Sam said that the facilities are not available at the RVH.
He finally indicated that the characteristics are the result of live
bullets.
5. OMAR BARROW: Dr Sam said that the X-Ray was difficult to print, but that
it did not affect the examination; that four wounds were found on him - two
on the right upper arm and two on the chest.
Cause of death: Massive haemorrhage from injury of heart, lung and major
blood vessels in the right arm and chest.
The Coroner asked what the cause of the fatal injury is. Dr Sam said that
the entry is the cause of a live bullet.
At this point there was a 45 minute recess. After the recess, Dr Sam
continued to give evidence.
6. MOMODOU LAMIN CHUNE: Dr Sam disclosed that Momodou Lamin Chune had a
wound on the chest which he identified. He indicated that there was a tear
in the right artery.
The doctor showed the bullet from the body of the deceased which was
tendered as exhibit. He further indicated that the penetration of the bullet
measured 20-25 mm.
7. LAMIN A. BOJANG: Dr Sam said he could identify a grazing of 55mm in the
skull of Lamin Bojang; that there was a fracture in his skull which measures
320 x 120mm.
Mr Abdoulie Bojang, father of the deceased asked the doctor whether there
was any attempt for a surgical operation on his son. Dr Sam said that he was
not aware since the death of Lamin was a sudden one.
8. OUSMAN SABALLY: Dr Sam said two wounds were identified in the chest - on
the right 70mm and the other side 65mm in the chest cavity. He further said
that there was a tear in the right diaphragm.
Dr Sam then told the Coroner that the last case to deal with is the corpse
that had not been identified.
The inquest was then adjourned.
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WHAT LED TO THE EVENTS OF 10 APRIL?
A Student Gives His Version
In his affidavit in support of the application to the High Court to release
20 detained students, Alieu Darboe, president of the University Students'
Union gave a version as to what led to the events of 10 April 2000, which we
publish in full as follows:
I ALIEU DARBOE, of Kanifing KSMD, a student, of Gambian Nationality make
oath and say as follows:
1. I am the deponent herein and a member of Gambia Student Association.
2. I am the President of the University of The Gambia Students Union which
is a sub-union of the Applicant (Gambia Student Association), and as such
President I am an honorary executive member of the Applicant.
3. I am aware by virtue of my membership in the Gambia Student Association
that the applicant was lawfully registered as a charitable organisation
under the Companies Act Cap. 95.01 of The laws of The Gambia, and issued
with a Certificate of Incorporation No. 264/1992.
4. I am aware that the applicant had organised a peaceful demonstration by
its members to petition the Government of The Gambia for redress of their
grievances over the death of one Ebrima Barry and the raping of one Binta
Manneh, all acts believed to have been committed by security officers of the
State.
5. The said demonstration was to have taken place on 10th April 2000 and
students were to converge at the gate of Gambia Technical Training Institute
at kanifing for the procession.
6. On 9th April, 2000 the executive of the applicant held a meeting at St.
Therese's Middle School at Kanifing in which I was present. At the said
meeting one Alieu Khan, the President of Gambia College Sub-Union, informed
us that the Secretary of State for Local Government and Religious Affairs,
Retired Captain Lamin Kaba Bajo informed him that he heard the applicant was
planning a demonstration. The said Secretary of State told Alieu Khan that
he was going to arrange a meeting for some members of the applicants
Executive Committee to meet the Vice President and some Secretaries of State
in order to find a peaceful solution to the crisis over the death of Ebrima
Barry and the raping of Binta Manneh.
7. The meeting that Retired Captain lamin Kaba Bajo was arranged was for
10th April, 2000 the day appointed for the peaceful demonstration.
8. The meeting requested Alieu Khan to ask Retired Captain Lamin Kaba Bajo
to send a motor vehicle to pick up the members who were selected to attend
the proposed meeting. The venue for pick up was to be at the gate of Gambia
Technical Training Institute.
9. It was agreed that we explore the possibility of dialogue with State
authorities and report back to all members.
10. It was further agreed that we postpone demonstration pending the outcome
of the meeting with the State authorities which would then determine our
future action as an association.
11. It was already late in the day to contact students, and we agreed to
converge at the gate of Gambia Technical Training institute as earlier
communicated to members of the applicant and to inform them of the new
development. It was agreed that we ask them to wait for us to go to the said
meeting and give them a feed back after the meeting.
12. On 10th April, 2000 whilst converging opposite Gambia Technical Training
Institute the paramilitary officers arrived in battle gears. One of them
held a hand public address system and immediately announced that all
students were to disperse. This was certainly not what we expected after
Retired Captain Lamin Bajo's proposal was accepted and communicated to him.
13. The executive members of the applicant and myself told students not to
disperse but to keep off the road and remain calm.
14. I saw the same paramilitary officer who made the announcement use his
mobile telephone after which i saw him talk to the other paramilitary
officers who were immediately galvanised into activity. They attacked
students beating them with batons and there was utter chaos.
15, I saw Omar Joof, the President of the applicant and Baboucarr Jonga, the
External Relations Officer of the applicant arrested by the paramilitary. I
was also arrested together with one Alajie Darboe, the Vice President of the
applicant.
16. We were taken to the paramilitary base at Kanifing which was next door
to the Police Mobile Traffic office, where we were detained together with
other students. Whilst in detention all students at the said paramilitary
base were beaten and kicked all over our bodies.
17. Whilst in detention the Secretary of State for Interior, Ousman Badjie,
visited us and told us that he believed we were being used by some elements
which Mr Omar Joof vehemently denied. Ousman Badjie then ordered our release
and informed Omar Joof, Baboucarr Jonga, Alajie Darboe and myself to go with
him to the meeting at the office of the Vice president. I then realised that
Retired Captain Lamin Bajo had indeed arranged the meeting.
18. On our way out we heard sporadic gun shots; we saw a thick smoke and
people running helter skelter.
19. The Secretary of State for Interior requested us as members of the
applicant association to address students and ask them to remain calm, our
efforts failed because security officers were firing at students who were in
turn hurling stones at them and some made barricades on the highway to stop
the security officers from advancing.
20. I am aware that no student was armed; I am also aware that the members
of the applicant did not have access to arms and ammunition. Students only
had stones which they picked on the road.
21. I am aware that there was no demonstration since the demonstration
itself was postponed pending our meeting with the Vice President and
Secretaries of State.
22. Omar Joof, Baboucarr Jonga, Alajie Darboe and I requested the Secretary
of State for Interior to ask the paramilitary officers to stop firing and to
retreat, the said Secretary of State retorted that the order had already
been given and he was unable to stop them.
23. We never made it to the meeting and the confrontation between the
security forces and students continued.
24. I am aware, and this was confirmed by the State media, that students
have been arrested nation wide and some died in the commotion; others
seriously injured; some hospitalised, and some still detained.
25. I have been advised by Counsel Hawa Sisay Sabally and I verily believe
that students have not been formally charged before any court for any
offences relating to the events of 10th April, 2000 and 11th April, 2000.
26. I am aware that Pa Alasan Ceesay, Sainabou Jaye, Lamin Jobe, Alhagi
Camara, Ebrima Daffeh, Abdou Sonko and the persons listed in the schedule
attached to the originating summons of the applicant are all students who
are members of the applicant association who have been arrested and are
currently detained by the respondents.
27. The applicant is now aware of the arrest and detention of any security
officer or Government agents or servants for their role in the events of
10th and 11th April 2000.
28. The applicant is not aware of the arrest and detention of any security
officer or Government agents or servants for their role in the events of
10th and 11th April 2000.
29. I believe these detained students are being held incommunicado and have
not been given access to counsel.
30. I believe the healing process can only begin when all students are
released and reunited with their families and friends.
31. I verily believe that the continued detention of these named students
and any other student for that matter will prejudice the Coroner's Inquest
and any proposed inquiry since all these students are potential witnesses.
I make these statements to the best of my knowledge, information and belief.
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THE BIRTH OF A REPUBLIC
Anniversary With Flags Flying Half Mast
On 24 April 1970, The Gambia became a Sovereign Republic. 30 years have
elapsed since the Republic came into being. 30 years ago a new Gambian
people should have come into being; a Gambian people who understood what
national liberation means.
Under colonialism, the Gambian people were deprived of being the architects
of their own destiny. The British monarchs and their envoys dictated how the
country was governed. They taxed the people and lived extravagantly at their
expense. They did not build schools to promote our intellectual growth. They
did not promote investment to enhance our technological and industrial
development. They reduced the vast majority of our people into poor farmers
using crude tools to produce groundnuts. No effort was done to promote food
security and economic self reliance.
When Gambia became a Republic, those who took over the country should have
been informed of the change of status of the citizenry; that they were no
longer subjects of a sovereign power; that they were in fact the embodiment
of the collective sovereignty of the country.
The people needed to be fully empowered to know that they owned the country
and had power and voice to decide how it was managed. They needed to know
that that power and voice were being translated into votes; that elections
simply meant the selection of public trustees who are entrusted with the
powers and voices of the vast majority. They should have realised that the
national leaders had descended from the level of monarchs to the level of
caretakers of the public interest.
This lesson, however, did not sink during the First Republic. Needless to
say those in power have not done anything to enable national leaders to be
seen a caretakers. They maintain the same monarchical status as the
governors of yesterday.
Before the demise of the controllers of the state in the First Republic the
purchase of groundnuts had dropped to 24,000 in 1992/93; the trade deficit
was 1831 million dalasi in 1992/93. Less than 15,000 persons were employed
by the public sector and approximately 22,000 by the private sector, Most
Gambians live from hand to mouth. Youths had no employment possibilities. 12
out of 19 public enterprises had been sold. The public debt rose to 3000
million dalasi by the coup period after thousands of millions had been paid
before the coup period. No future was created for the people.
Now that the present regime had taken over, the debts have been increasing.
Before 1994 to date, the debt had increased by 1800 million dalasis. 132,000
children are noted to be in primary school in 1996/97. In 12 years all will
be out of school. The government offered nothing more than 16,000 jobs. The
private sector employs relatively the same number of jobs. The trade deficit
is 2600 million. The farmers had difficulty selling their nuts. Society does
not offer any future to the people.
WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?
One would have thought that the year 2000 would have found Gambia in a
different state. 30 years is the beginning of adulthood by any standard. In
actual fact the future can be said to have become the present. The future
generation should have found their country more accommodating. They should
have been freer to exercise their rights and grow up in liberty, dignity and
prosperity unfettered by any form of restriction.
The future is here, but the new Gambia is not yet. As we commemorate the 30
anniversary of the Republic, let us make a common commitment to build a new
Gambia where flags will not fly half mast because of the exercise of a right
to demonstrate. Let us hope that a new Gambia is emerging out of our common
desire to see ourselves and country in a new way. We must renew our
commitment to be the architects of our own destiny; a destiny of liberty,
dignity and prosperity. That is the meaning if 24 April - Republican Day.
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Hi Folks,
Can anyone of you help Ms. Georgianna Jackson as per the request below.
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truly at [log in to unmask] Your assistance will be highly
appreciated.
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Hi Madiba,
Is there any way that I can communicate with the Essau Senior Secondary
School? I wish to help a young man named Modou Cessay, who is a student
there. I wish to send his school expenses directly to the school, but he has
not been able to tell me how to do this. I would really like to be able to
contact the school. Any suggestions you have will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you. Georgianna Jackson
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THE J agne family of Tally 8, Forster family etc. regret to announce
the death of Uncle Mam Mbye Jagne. Uncle Mam Mbye was the pioneer of the
tanka tanka many years back. He was a hard working man with clear
foresight in business venturs.Our condolences to the Lala .Dodou and
the entire Jagne family. May his soul rest in Perfect peace.
Chi Jamma,
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A Pathologist at the Royal Victoria hospital Dr Omar Sam told the coroner's
inquest that live bullets killed seven people whose bodies he performed
autopsies on. Dr Sam confirmed this to the coroners inquest at the high
court in Banjul yesterday as he gave his report on seven out of 8 bodies he
examined following the bloody student riots of April 10 and 11th. He
explained that he carried out post mortem examinations on the bodies of
Momodou Lamin Njie, Kalisco Preira, Karamo Barrow, Omar Barrow, Momodou
Lamine Chune, Lamin A. Bojang, Reginald Carrol and Ousmane Sabally. Dr Sam
indicated most of the deads suffered gunshot wounds on their chests, ribs and
abdomens as well as excessive bleeding, heart and lungs fractures amongst
others which it said were caused by high velocity weapons. He however told
the coroner that the body of Ousman Sabally was buried in Kerewan Samba Sira
in CRD and was exhumed twelve days after for post mortem to be carried out.
Dr Sam could not confirm whether the victims died at the spot of the
shooting but described their deaths as sudden. He also said that one of
the corpses was not identified. More evidence is expected from the post
mortem report of Dr Omar Sam. The Coroners inquest was set up to look into
the cause of death of 12 people which occurred during students demonstrations
of Monday 10 and Tuesday April this year. Sitting continues today.
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I've said it before and I will say it again, Yahya Rules and as long he
does I will continue to lick his ass. Yes I beat the shit out of my wife
because she cheated on me and yes I was a cab driver, but guess what, am
now the Director of TV and RADIO now. Am not going to give my job away
even if it means hiding the truth from the people. So do I make myself clear?
PEACE
Tomboy
These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day dreaming.
Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them come
and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and participate
in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing otherwise
keep your peace.
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Bravo to the Gambian lawyers representing these kids who have been brutally
killed and some detained without any charges. Under the dictatorial
circumstances in the Gambia, I think these very brave lawyers deserves a lot
of credit to defend the brave kids of the Gambia in the courts.
I hope they understand and know that a lot of other human beings and Gambian
are with them.
Ousman Bojang.
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hi tombong,
i had so much respect for you but i'm surprised that you wrote something
like "i beat the shit out of my wife because she cheated on me". no matter
what... she is your wife and we really don't need to know all that. and
secondly you don't need to hide anything from us cause no matter how hard
you try the Almighty God is up there seeing everything. and you should also
be ashame to say that you lick someone else's ass....please give yourself
some respect if you want others to respect you.
peace
mini
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>I've said it before and I will say it again, Yahya Rules and as long he
>does I will continue to lick his ass. Yes I beat the shit out of my wife
>because she cheated on me and yes I was a cab driver, but guess what, am
>now the Director of TV and RADIO now. Am not going to give my job away
>even if it means hiding the truth from the people. So do I make myself
>clear?
>
> PEACE
> Tomboy
>
>These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day dreaming.
>Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them
>come
>and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
>Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and participate
>in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing otherwise
>keep your peace.
>
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Mr. Katim Touray,
Since you were opposed to religious postings on the List, and I vehemently
agreed with you on that, I was wandering about your opinion on these obituary
announcements on the List.
S.S.Saidykhan
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WAEF,
Send me an address to which I can send you some
medication that is currently the best on the market.
This would be on trial basis if it works for her we
shall work out a way to get more.
Thanks.
Larry.
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> HI GUYS !
>
> I have a friend who has been suffering from some
> sort of RHEUMATOID
> ARTHTRITIS which seems to be slowly halting her
> legs from walking. She has
> been on all kinds of medication and management
> within the scope of gambian
> medical possibiilities.
>
> Anyone with any information or more appropriately
> contacts for her
> treatment abroad ?
>
> She has visited Dakar too !
>
> jaama rek
>
> mbindan
>
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To those who felt offended, my apologies to you and again am not perfect
either. As you all might know I have this drinking problem but am going to
beat it.
PEACE
Tombong
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I fondly remember him giving him sweets every time my father went to his store to get provisions back in the 70s. He was a wise man and will sorely be missed. May his soul rest in peace.
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Yai-fatou,
First of all I would like to say hi to you, it's been
such a long time.
I am very proud of the fact that you and your sister
(Ancha), are doing so much to help alleviate this pain
that we are all going through. It is always a
consolation, knowing that we can put aside our
differences at times of trouble, to work things out.
After all, it is for the common good of our beloved
Motherland, the Gambia. I want to take this chance to
thank everyone who contributed towards this purpose.
For those who have not done anything yet, just know
that it is still not too late.
As Mike Leavitt puts it, "There is a time in the life
of every problem when it is big enough to see, yet
small enough to solve."
Thank you.
Nabiha
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> After going through 750+ messeges (I was
> incommunicado because
> of my finals), i must say that it is beautiful
> indeed to see Gambians
> putting aside their petty differences and uniting in
> this common goal
> for a 'free Gambia'. We must realise that nothing
> is without wisdom and i
> believe the wisdom behind the events that have been
> brewing for the past
> few years and which reached a climax on April 10th
> is this: the price of
> freedom is never cheap. As such, we must not loose
> faith or give up hope.
> God said, "with hardship cometh ease". No doubt we
> are in the most trying
> times, but the promise of God Almighty is true, so
> we can be assured that
> ease (peace and democracy in this case) will
> definitely be forthcoming.
> However, our duty is patience and perseverance while
> we wait for God's
> promise to be fulfilled - and God's timing is the
> best! With the efforts
> of people such as Buharry (contragulations on the
> baby girl, may God give
> her everything that is good and keep from her
> everything that is evil, and
> complete her with His light), Jabou, Yankuba, etc.,
> etc.,etc.; eloquent
> words from the likes of Alpha Robinson and Nabiha;
> insightful analyses
> such as those from Amadou Kabir and Momodou Sidibeh,
> I believe we can most
> certainly persevere. And to make assurance doubly
> sure, we have generated
> a lot of steam both locally and internationally (i
> have the 750+ e-mails
> to prove it!) to keep us going. So perseverance will
> not be a problem,
> however i think patience might. While we're sending
> petitions to
> international organisations and such, let's remember
> that the west doesn't
> necessarily have the answers - wasn't America
> responsible for getting
> Jammeh in, in the first place? Anyway, speculation
> or not, I think we
> should be cautious what we ask for, because if we're
> asking for economic
> sanctions (i believe someone recommended it a couple
> of hundred emails
> back, but i'm glad i haven't seen this particular
> recommendation in any of
> the petitions i've signed thus far), then we should
> be aware of the
> implications of such a request. The implications...
> are that the Gambian
> people will just continue to suffer, end of story.
> Take Iraq as a case in
> point....the sanctions have only resulted in making
> the already miserable
> life of the common Iraqi more miserable. The actual
> people that the
> sanctions were intended to hurt are still enjoying
> life despite the
> sanctions. Momodou Sidibeh stated that two-thirds
> of the
> direct investment in the country according to the
> central bank comes from
> Gambians abroad sending money to supplement their
> relatives' meagre
> incomes. So let's be careful that all this call for
> international
> involvement does not backfire on us.
> With regards to the effort being put into
> all of this, excuse my
> lack of physical presence because i'm all the way up
> here in
> no-man's-land, Hamilton,Canada, and as such my
> contributions in the form
> of money is about all i can afford. However, my
> sister, Ancha is at home
> right now and she said that she has opened an
> account for the families of
> the deceased and she was going to put the account #
> and other relevant
> info. on the list. However, i've informed her of the
> contributions already
> being collected in NA and Europe, so it would not
> make sense to put
> another account on the list for this purpose. But i
> was wondering if there
> is already a mechanism in place, by which the monies
> collected abroad are
> going to be distributed to the various families. If
> so, maybe you can have
> my sister coordinate with whoever is in responsible
> (just to have more
> people help out). But if not, maybe Soffie Ceesay
> and Alpha Robinson can
> forward whatever they've collected and she can
> distribute it as necessary.
> Just in case the issue of trust comes up, Ancha
> worked with GESO to get
> the computers that were donated down to Banjul and
> she was responsible for
> handling the particulars when they got there. So
> Jabou and others can
> vouch for her if necessary. Whatever the case, my
> sister as usual is
> prepared to help so if there is a need for people at
> home to coordinate
> efforts, I'm sure she's ready and willing insofar as
> her schedule at RVH
> permits. She's been working some crazy hours lately!
> So if anyone has any
> suggestions, let me know and i'll forward them to
> her. She will probably
> try to get on the L concerning this but like i said,
> she's busy and has
> computer issues so i'm her messenger for the time
> being.
> In the meantime, let's all keep doing what
> we can for our beloved
> country and remember to pray for the dead and ask
> God to make the grief
> easier to bear for their families and help us in our
> endeavours for a
> 'Free Gambia'.
>
> Yai-Fatou Gaye.
>
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LARRY,
PLEASE SEND THEM TO
MRS. F. JOOF
c/o P. O. BOX 2689
Serrekunda post office
The Gambia
Thanks a lot for your concern!
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In a message dated 4/26/00 10:10:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<<
To those who felt offended, my apologies to you and again am not perfect
either. As you all might know I have this drinking problem but am going to
beat it.
PEACE
Tombong
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Tombong,
So that's it. Whenever you come with the explanations, you must be under the
influence and this is what makes you able to do it without batting an eyelash.
Jabou
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Ebou,
I think the biggest dreamer is Tombong,Yaya and
his behind kissers, whom we very well identify and
know.So please lets get to work and live the talking
to them.Technology is too advance for any one to
commit such crimes and think you will get away with
it.
The tools are well at our disposal,so lets get to
work.
Tombong better watch himself.For if his boss goes
down, he is going with him.
Action speaks louder than words.
Larry USA
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> YAYA MUST GO
>
> I just can’t believe that there are Gambians out
> there, still trying to treat Yaya’s government as a
> reasonable establishment. How could anyone think
> that
> the APRC government would provide the logical
> answers
> to the contradictory questions raised in the latest
> Point Newspaper publications? If you think the
> government would come up with the reasonable answers
> about why Yaya is pretending to look fair and good
> on
> one side by trying to comfort the families of the
> victims of the massacre, but on the other side he
> continues to act like the devil he is by illegally
> detaining several other poor students, you must be
> living in a dream world. What most of you fail to
> understand is that Yaya measures the mentality of
> every Gambian by the degree of the inept head he
> carries over his shoulders. He is not at all
> intelligent; thus he treats every person by his
> level
> of thinking. Unfortunately, those around him would
> keep on telling him that he is way in the sky even
> when his tail is on fire in a hole below the earth.
> All I have to say anyway is that the idiot is living
> on borrowed time. He is already finish.
>
> Having said that, I still want to add a few lines by
> answering few questions. While we were in the army
> we
> could not overthrow Yaya because there was no
> apparent
> reason to do so. We were professional soldiers who
> served with all those military ethics, codes and
> principles well respected in the job we did. Yaya
> knew
> that he could not have been crazy in our time to
> give
> us such unlawful orders to shoot and kill school
> children. That would have the order toend his
> administration. We had conscience and strongly
> believed in god and Yaya knew that very well. If
> Yaya
> had ordered us to shoot kids as young as three, we
> would have smoked him instead rather than commit
> that
> heinous crime in the name of soldiering. That is
> why,
> like every reasonable person, we think that he
> belongs
> in jail and not to head a nation. Child killers
> cannot
> be allowed to roam civilized streets much more
> heading
> the nation of god-fearing humans like Gambians. So
> don’t disturb us with what we should or should not
> have done in our past careers.
>
> To also think that Yaya would easily relinquish
> power
> in the wake of losing in a general election is
> another
> sad dream nurtured in some naive heads. For some of
> you who still cannot get the point, you need to now
> understand that Yaya is among those foolish
> dictators
> who have the absurd notion that the country belongs
> to
> them and them alone. Beside, he would certainly be
> reluctant to leave because his hands are seriously
> steeped in blood and his pockets full of booty. He
> knows that all his past gory misdeeds would be
> exposed. Hence he would cling to power regardless of
> the cost or consequence. That therefore leaves no
> choice but to dislodge him in the very manner he got
> himself that seat. Historians on African politics
> have
> long codified the statistics that between 1957 and
> 1990 there were 150 heads of state in the continent
> but only six had ever relinquish power voluntarily.
> Discount Yaya from the honorable category of the
> legacy of those six.
>
> Landing Jatta and Kebba Dampha, I must commend you
> for
> your courage and determination. You are admirable
> heroes in my camp. You must never lose sight of the
> fact that we are the last hopes. Arguments of
> various
> kinds would continue to be forwarded to dampen our
> spirits but you must maintain the positive position.
> We are definitely on the right track. YAYA MUST GO
> BY
> ALL MEANS!!!!
>
> Ebou Colly.
>
>
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Now do we need say anything more about Tombong and his state of mind? I think
not because he said it all right here, and he has plenty of company when it
comes to this kind of mindset. God please save the Gambia.
Jabou
In a message dated 4/26/00 9:01:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< I've said it before and I will say it again, Yahya Rules and as long he
does I will continue to lick his ass. Yes I beat the shit out of my wife
because she cheated on me and yes I was a cab driver, but guess what, am
now the Director of TV and RADIO now. Am not going to give my job away
even if it means hiding the truth from the people. So do I make myself clear?
PEACE
Tomboy
These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day dreaming.
Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them come
and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and participate
in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing otherwise
keep your peace.
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We pray that his soul rest in peace. Ameen.
Jabou Joh
In a message dated 4/26/00 8:19:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
<< THE J agne family of Tally 8, Forster family etc. regret to announce
the death of Uncle Mam Mbye Jagne. Uncle Mam Mbye was the pioneer of the
tanka tanka many years back. He was a hard working man with clear
foresight in business venturs.Our condolences to the Lala .Dodou and
the entire Jagne family. May his soul rest in Perfect peace.
Chi Jamma,
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Sister, don't believe a word he says, as he's trying to hood-wink us with
this silly excuse. He's always been a teetotaler, hence meant every word and
action he posted on this site. I believe he's now coming to his senses as
Yahya Jammeh will chew his a-- for these statements. Don't be surprise, if
his head will be the first to roll, instead of isatou njie-saidy.
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All those Officers who had received order to kill the
students have squared with me that they are currently
experiencing serious nightmares of the shooting
incident. One of my closest friends have told me that
since after the shooting, he could not come to terms
with himself. And many other officers personally told
me that they are seriously considering to resign their
commission before the end of the year,if their
nightmares continues to persist; they would have no
other choice, but strongly lean towards resignation.
These are my fellow Officers who happened to be on
duty at the orders came from the top to shoot and kill
if student demonstration continues. I am one of those
lucky ones who happened to be of duty that day. I
really sympathize them.
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A friend of mine wanted me to send this to the Gambia-
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Swedish. Thanks. /Monica
> Hello GL. This is only for Swedish members:
> Jag undrar om någon spelat in "Catch a fire" med Bob
Marley & The Wailers
> från TV 1 19/4 och repris 21/4. Jag är mycket ledsen
att jag missat dem, så
> betalar gärna om någon spelat in programmet på video.
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--- TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> To those who felt offended, my apologies to you and again am not
> perfect
> either. As you all might know I have this drinking problem but am
> going to
> beat it.
>
> PEACE
> Tombong
>
Tombong,
Sorry to hear that you have a drinking problem, but I think that it is
going to be especially difficult for you to get rid of that problem now
that you constantly have to "play hide and seek" with you own
conscience.
If you don't join the forces of good, in the end, your only "escape"
will be the bottle as you will always try not to face your own reality
and do something about your slow but certain dehumanisation by that
stupid animal whose ass you've finally admitted to licking. How far are
you going to allow it to go on?
The drinking may only be the symptom of an underlying cause that must
be cured. Come and join the forces of good and suddenly you would not
have the time to even think about a drink,if it is not soda or "ataya".
And please stop signing your mails with "PEACE". You are not even at
peace with your own self. Salvage your soul first from the Devil and
you'll be at peace, and won't need that drink. The Lord, as they say,
works in many ways.
Kabir.
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Hello everyone,
Somebody has brought it to my attention that the mail below which I
replied to thinking it was written by Tombong Saidy, was not actually
sent by him. That was quite unfortunate.
Regards.
Kabir
--- TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> To those who felt offended, my apologies to you and again am not
> perfect
> either. As you all might know I have this drinking problem but am
> going to
> beat it.
>
> PEACE
> Tombong
>
>
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This posting just manifests how shallow some members will go to try to
discredit me and it is some thing new in the list and list managers should
look in to this matter. Such clandestine activities should not be encouraged
in this forum and allow low lives will support such an activity. This is a
serious matter and Katim and the others MUST take action on this to maintain
the credibility of this forum. I do not think it helps to allow people to
impersonate others. The table could turn and a lot of members will not be
happy.
You are wasting your times, this just means I winning and getting on your
nerves. If you cannot stand the heat get the hell out of the kitchen. I will
always be a thorn on your sides.
This from: >Gambiansonline ..Design With The Gambian People In Mind.
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credibility of this forum.
PEACE
TOMBONG
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>
>I've said it before and I will say it again, Yahya Rules and as long he
>does I will continue to lick his ass. Yes I beat the shit out of my wife
>because she cheated on me and yes I was a cab driver, but guess what, am
>now the Director of TV and RADIO now. Am not going to give my job away
>even if it means hiding the truth from the people. So do I make myself
>clear?
>
> PEACE
> Tomboy
>
>These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day dreaming.
>Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them
>come
>and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
>Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and participate
>in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing otherwise
>keep your peace.
>
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>This posting just manifests how shallow some members will go to try to
>discredit me and it is some thing new in the list and list managers should
>look in to this matter. Such clandestine activities should not be
>encouraged
>in this forum and allow low lives will support such an activity. This is a
>serious matter and Katim and the others MUST take action on this to
>maintain
>the credibility of this forum. I do not think it helps to allow people to
>impersonate others. The table could turn and a lot of members will not be
>happy.
>
>You are wasting your times, this just means I winning and getting on your
>nerves. If you cannot stand the heat get the hell out of the kitchen. I
>will
>always be a thorn on your sides.
>
>This from: >Gambiansonline ..Design With The Gambian People In Mind.
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>Katim and list managers, the ball is on your court to restore the
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>PEACE
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> >From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
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> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
> >Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:55:57 -0500
> >
> >I've said it before and I will say it again, Yahya Rules and as long he
> >does I will continue to lick his ass. Yes I beat the shit out of my wife
> >because she cheated on me and yes I was a cab driver, but guess what, am
> >now the Director of TV and RADIO now. Am not going to give my job away
> >even if it means hiding the truth from the people. So do I make myself
> >clear?
> >
> > PEACE
> > Tomboy
> >
> >These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day
>dreaming.
> >Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them
> >come
> >and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
> >Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and
>participate
> >in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing
>otherwise
> >keep your peace.
> >
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This posting just manifests how shallow some members will go to try
to discredit me and it is some thing new in the list and list managers
should look in to this matter. Such clandestine activities should not be
encouraged in this forum and allow low lives will support such an activity.
This is a serious matter and Katim and the others MUST take action on this
to maintain the credibility of this forum. I do not think it helps to allow
people to impersonate others. The table could turn and a lot of members will
not be happy.
You are wasting your times, this just means I an winning and getting on
your nerves. If you cannot stand the heat get the hell out of the
kitchen. I will always be a thorn on your sides.
This from: >Gambiansonline ..Design With The Gambian People In Mind.
>>To join our Mailling List goto http://www.gambiansonline.com
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Katim and list managers, the ball is on your court to restore the
credibility of this forum.
PEACE
TOMBONG
>>From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
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>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
>>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:55:57 -0500
>>
>>I've said it before and I will say it again, Yahya Rules and as long he
>>does I will continue to lick his ass. Yes I beat the shit out of my wife
>>because she cheated on me and yes I was a cab driver, but guess what, am
>>now the Director of TV and RADIO now. Am not going to give my job away
>>even if it means hiding the truth from the people. So do I make myself
>>clear?
>>
>> PEACE
>> Tomboy
>>
>>These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day
>>dreaming.
>>Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them
>>come
>>and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
>>Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and participate
>>in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing
>>otherwise
>>keep your peace.
>>
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Hello folks,
Those two messages from [log in to unmask], aaahmmmm, disregard it
please. It wasn't him who sent it and my apologies to those who responded and Tombong, the victim of a disgruntled citizen. It was an APRIL FOOL
JOKE. Nothing really personal, in fact I don't know him well to care
enough but as a man I must apologize and tell the truth. I guess one thing
both Tombong and myself should learn from this is that "it hurts when you've been LIED to, doesn't it! ". Only the TRUTH shall set you free.
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Subject: What a documentary!(poem).
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WHAT A DOCUMENTARY!
Truth embedding cynicism is not pallatable truth.
Time! you are welcome to try truth.
Is patriotism a cake?
Yes, a cake to be shared.
I saw a tank rolling on dead bodies...sssssst...its shocking.
That scenario made my mind shrink.
Where was truth?
Hamadi the gladiator!
Time tries truth but not vigour and bitter words.
Write but don't bite.
'M'barastékou'! Is the surface slippery?
One wise mind said:"when bitter words threaten to overpower sweet ones let silence guide...."
There are messages within and thought is the passage through which some do flow.
Individualism is a disease and totalitarianism is an epidemy!
The slate of dialogue is empty...or?....Is it hidden?
Please don't refuse to open my parcel.It is full of sincere smiles.
Hello...hmmmm.....mr.future your methods are yet to be known.
Wishes,wishes,wishes,wishes.....
Philosophy says;thought smeared with desire is not pure thought.
Biram pateh and Penda Gandal are yours pure?
Society o! society... hmmmm...
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<P> WHAT A DOCUMENTARY!</P>
<P>Truth embedding cynicism is not pallatable truth.</P>
<P>Time! you are welcome to try truth.</P>
<P>Is patriotism a cake?</P>
<P>Yes, a cake to be shared.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>I saw a tank rolling on dead bodies...sssssst...its shocking.</P>
<P>That scenario made my mind shrink.</P>
<P>Where was truth?</P>
<P>Hamadi the gladiator!</P>
<P>Time tries truth but not vigour and bitter words.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Write but don't bite.</P>
<P>'M'barastékou'! Is the surface slippery?</P>
<P>One wise mind said:"when bitter words threaten to overpower sweet ones let silence guide...."</P>
<P>There are messages within and thought is the passage through which some do flow.</P>
<P>Individualism is a disease and totalitarianism is an epidemy!</P>
<P>The slate of dialogue is empty...or?....Is it hidden?</P>
<P> </P>
<P> </P>
<P>Please don't refuse to open my parcel.It is full of sincere smiles.</P>
<P>Hello...hmmmm.....mr.future your methods are yet to be known.</P>
<P>Wishes,wishes,wishes,wishes.....</P>
<P>Philosophy says;thought smeared with desire is not pure thought.</P>
<P>Biram pateh and Penda Gandal are yours pure?</P>
<P>Society o! society... hmmmm...</P>
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Subject: Back To The Subject: "DOCTOR CONFIRMS USE OF LIVE BULLETS"
IN TODAY'S NEWS culled from the Observer:
Dr Souhegui Rafael, a pathologist at the RVH, yesterday testified before the coroner that live bullets killed two of the three corpses he performed autopsies on.
Dr Rafael told the coroner's inquest at the High Court that a 20mm wound was noticed on the body of Ebrima Badjie, killed in the student riots of April 10, and that there was blood collection of 1,400ml in his chest, haemorrhage on the left lung and excessive bleeding in the heart where the left lobe and the pulmonary artery were damaged.
The deceased, he added, died as a result of excessive bleeding caused by bullets released from a powerful weapon and not rubber bullets.
On Wuyeh Mansally's death
Dr Rafael said another victim, Wuyeh Mansally, died as a result of gunshots which manifested the nature of live bullets. "Penetrative gunshots were found on the right side of the deceased's neck, the entry of which was 25mm large. The exit was 30 x 5mm. The upper jaws of the deceased was also destroyed, he said.
Challenged by the coroner to explain why he was sure that the deaths were as a result of live bullets and the different entry and exit point sizes for the bullets, the doctor declared that although rubber bullets have the capacity to create some sort of injury and penetration, they can't do extensive damage like live bullets. He maintained that the wounds were caused by live bullets fired at about 13 to 15 metres from the victim. The high speed bullet, which he said reduces velocity when penetrating from inside, has the tendency of damaging a lot of tissues at its exit point than the entry and that he said, explains the difference in the two points.
On Abdoulie Sanyang's Death
On the death of Abdoulie Sanyang, the evidence of which did not mention any injury caused by a gunshot, Dr Rafael said from general examinations, there was no damage or wound or evidence of a chronic disease on the deceased. But an internal examination showed haemorrhage in the thoracic cavity. There was no damage on the heart or abdominal cavity. "There was no evidence of haemorrhage in the brain too," the doctor said.
However, he added, microscopic findings revealed focal alveolar haemorrhage. He said there was blockage and rapture of the alveoli wall. The bleeding of the left lung and the rupture of the small pulmonary vessel were noticed. The possible cause of death, he said, could have been that of "crushing". Specifically, he said "there was left pulmonary haemorrhage."
All the three autopsy reports were tendered and marked as exhibits.
Earlier, the coroner heard testimonies of more people as investigations into the cause of death of victims of the student riots continued.
In his testimony, Biram Jobe, a detective inspector at the police Serious Crime Unit, said he was at the GTTI on April 10 when students staged the demonstration.
"I went back to police headquarters and was later assigned to go and look for victims in the student demonstrations," he said.
Mr Jobe who told the inquest that he had been serving the police for 17 years, said he visited the mortuary at RVH and found corpses. He said the following day, he prepared a form in order to enable them to prepare the post mortem report. He said they had 11 bodies on that day and all were identified except one, which he said was finally buried at Old Jeshwang cemetery.
Mr Jobe added that he went with investigators from the Scientific Support Unit of the police to take photographs of all the happenings at the mortuary. He said photographs were taken before and during the autopsies. Mr Jobe tendered photographs of the victims before the coroner.
During the cross examination, father of the late Lamin Bojang, Abdoulie Bojang, asked the detective inspector why he failed to invite him to witness the autopsy of his son. Mr Jobe said bereaved parents should have informed them of their intention to attend.
He said he found Mr Bojang taking photographs of his son but at the time, he did not know whether he was the father.
Mustapha Kujabi said he is a neighbour to Kebba Sanyang, father of the late Abdoulie Sanyang.
He explained that he was in his house when he heard gunshots. "I came running out and saw people running. After inquiring, I was told that students are demonstrating and the police are trying to disperse them."
He said after returning to his house, the parents of the deceased came and requested him to help them to bury their dead.
"They said they wanted to bury the child and some were arguing that he is not dead. I asked them what happened, they said while gunshots were heard around the GTTI, the child tried to run and he fell down around their gate. In order to satisfy both parties, I told them to refer the child to the RVH where I found Dr Bangura, who confirmed him dead," Mr Kujabi said.
In his testimony, Baba Njie of Brikama, father of the later Momodou Lamin Njie, said he received the news of the death through one Francois Jobe. He said his son who was studying at GTTI died during the student unrest but he doesn't know where.
Basiru Barrow, father of the late Karamo Barrow, said, "I last saw my son on Monday April 10."
He said his son graduated from ICE High School in 1999 and he was making arrangements to send him abroad for further studies.
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what an idiot, we will very soon see ur disgraced faith when the monster
dislodge u from ur honorary a--licking position. Word of caution Mr.
toilet-paper, try to be sober next time u want to write something to this
forum. OOps, i wonder what Ayatollah Jammeh will think of ur love affair
with the bottle or is that a trend copied from ur master.
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>To those who felt offended, my apologies to you and again am not perfect
>either. As you all might know I have this drinking problem but am going to
>beat it.
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Tombong:
Your dictatorial views will not fly here. Katim and other members of
Gambia-L will not succumb to your views. Please convey your views to the
dictator. You cannot stop the opposition.
The struggle continues. Dictator yahya jemus must go.
Comrade,
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Ebou,
I think the biggest dreamer is Tombong,Yaya and
his behind kissers, whom we very well identify and
know.So please lets get to work and live the talking
to them.Technology is too advance for any one to
commit such crimes and think you will get away with
it.
The tools are well at our disposal,so lets get to
work.
Tombong better watch himself.For if his boss goes
down, he is going with him.
Action speaks louder than words.
Larry USA
--- ebou colly <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> YAYA MUST GO
>
> I just can?t believe that there are Gambians out
> there, still trying to treat Yaya?s government as a
> reasonable establishment. How could anyone think
> that
> the APRC government would provide the logical
> answers
> to the contradictory questions raised in the latest
> Point Newspaper publications? If you think the
> government would come up with the reasonable answers
> about why Yaya is pretending to look fair and good
> on
> one side by trying to comfort the families of the
> victims of the massacre, but on the other side he
> continues to act like the devil he is by illegally
> detaining several other poor students, you must be
> living in a dream world. What most of you fail to
> understand is that Yaya measures the mentality of
> every Gambian by the degree of the inept head he
> carries over his shoulders. He is not at all
> intelligent; thus he treats every person by his
> level
> of thinking. Unfortunately, those around him would
> keep on telling him that he is way in the sky even
> when his tail is on fire in a hole below the earth.
> All I have to say anyway is that the idiot is living
> on borrowed time. He is already finish.
>
> Having said that, I still want to add a few lines by
> answering few questions. While we were in the army
> we
> could not overthrow Yaya because there was no
> apparent
> reason to do so. We were professional soldiers who
> served with all those military ethics, codes and
> principles well respected in the job we did. Yaya
> knew
> that he could not have been crazy in our time to
> give
> us such unlawful orders to shoot and kill school
> children. That would have the order toend his
> administration. We had conscience and strongly
> believed in god and Yaya knew that very well. If
> Yaya
> had ordered us to shoot kids as young as three, we
> would have smoked him instead rather than commit
> that
> heinous crime in the name of soldiering. That is
> why,
> like every reasonable person, we think that he
> belongs
> in jail and not to head a nation. Child killers
> cannot
> be allowed to roam civilized streets much more
> heading
> the nation of god-fearing humans like Gambians. So
> don?t disturb us with what we should or should not
> have done in our past careers.
>
> To also think that Yaya would easily relinquish
> power
> in the wake of losing in a general election is
> another
> sad dream nurtured in some naive heads. For some of
> you who still cannot get the point, you need to now
> understand that Yaya is among those foolish
> dictators
> who have the absurd notion that the country belongs
> to
> them and them alone. Beside, he would certainly be
> reluctant to leave because his hands are seriously
> steeped in blood and his pockets full of booty. He
> knows that all his past gory misdeeds would be
> exposed. Hence he would cling to power regardless of
> the cost or consequence. That therefore leaves no
> choice but to dislodge him in the very manner he got
> himself that seat. Historians on African politics
> have
> long codified the statistics that between 1957 and
> 1990 there were 150 heads of state in the continent
> but only six had ever relinquish power voluntarily.
> Discount Yaya from the honorable category of the
> legacy of those six.
>
> Landing Jatta and Kebba Dampha, I must commend you
> for
> your courage and determination. You are admirable
> heroes in my camp. You must never lose sight of the
> fact that we are the last hopes. Arguments of
> various
> kinds would continue to be forwarded to dampen our
> spirits but you must maintain the positive position.
> We are definitely on the right track. YAYA MUST GO
> BY
> ALL MEANS!!!!
>
> Ebou Colly.
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:53:43 +0300
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Fellow member,
I think some people in this forum will never understand power and it
influence to a human kind, especially Power hungry Africans.Remember when
Yaya came to power everyone was happy to see changes of government which
was domination the entire political scenerio for three decates with less
impact in the life of ordinery Gambians. There intention was as well not
to retain power but since the effect was overwelming in the eye of the
general public, they can't help but to retain in power and taste the
holiness of recieveing fat salaries. If we remember this anymore, I think
we should not cry for such kind of change to happen. Being a believer of
islam, and having in mind that God is the creator and is He who knows what
best, I will never encourage blood setting means to means to gain power.
Especially if i will not suffer the consiquences since I am not living in
the country. Gambia is so small and poor due to lack of natural resource
but rich in culture youthfulness which in some point, can replace the lack
of natural(if education and know-how policies are put in to it's right
place) If means to topple the government is still military what kinds of
gambians at heart we think we are since everyone knows how effective this
kind of means can bring about? The soldiers contributing to this forum are
not living in the gambia at the moment, but were the same soldiers who
helped Yaya to power, since they were not given ministerial posts as
expected, they turn against him. Yet is the same people who are wishing
the military take over again. Do you think this people are serious or are
they trying to full again and gain our support to over throw and stick to
the holiness. How long was Wadda fighting to change the government? but
never use forces to come to power but when God's time came no human can
stop it happen. As our neighbour, and brother country, Senegal should be
our role model. One without patient and tolerance is a danger to
him/herself as well as the society at large.
MAY GOD THE ALMIGHTY GRANT US WITH TOLERANCE AND PATIENCE TOWARDS OUR
DESIRES OF GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. AMEN
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PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Mr.Jatta
could u please supply us with the names of these monsters in order to
facilitate the documentation process for future trials. Do i sense a feeling
of sympathy for these unprofessional beasts from ur side or what. Was it not
their primary duty to safeguard the rights of these innocent brothers,
sisters, nephews etc than to butchered them. Nightmares are not what these
animals should be facing in their sleeps but they should have been
reprimanded in custody long time ago together with their supreme commander
in guilt(executioner-Jammeh). Would u have obeyed the same orders if u were
on duty mr,jatta???...probably YES....hence u mentioned that u WERE LUCKY
THAT U WAS NOT ON DUTY...
Do us a favour and reveal these child murderers cuz we already knew who gave
the orders but not direct executioners...
kittos
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>All those Officers who had received order to kill the
>students have squared with me that they are currently
>experiencing serious nightmares of the shooting
>incident. One of my closest friends have told me that
>since after the shooting, he could not come to terms
>with himself. And many other officers personally told
>me that they are seriously considering to resign their
>commission before the end of the year,if their
>nightmares continues to persist; they would have no
>other choice, but strongly lean towards resignation.
>
>These are my fellow Officers who happened to be on
>duty at the orders came from the top to shoot and kill
>if student demonstration continues. I am one of those
>lucky ones who happened to be of duty that day. I
>really sympathize them.
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The Religion We Need
This Day (Lagos)
April 26, 2000
By Stan Chu Ilo
Lagos - Three significant religious events took place within the past
few weeks in some parts of the world, which provide the basis for this
reflection, as they draw the lines of the authentic religious beliefs
and practices demanded in our complex world today.
The first event was Pope John Paul 11's pilgrimage to the Middle East
as a prophet of a new humanity and an apostle of peace; building
bridges of friendship between Israel and the entire Arab world, and
amplifying in a concrete way the close affinity between the three
prophetic religions of Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
The second event took place in the obscure corners of Kanungu in
Uganda, where over 320 Ugandans, members of the Movement for the
Restoration of the Ten Commandments, perished in the hellish inferno
they set against themselves to quicken their ascent into Heaven.
Reports have it that their leader, Joseph Kibweteere had taught his
adherents that the world was coming to an end this year, and encouraged
them to sell their property and enter into the new ark of Noah (his
Church), which will protect them, and carry them to heaven, in the
event of the imminent calamitous end of the world. Whether these
hapless adherents were under a spell or hypnosis or a mass hysteria is
yet to be proved by a distraught Ugandan Police Force.
The third event was the amputation in Zamfara State of one Bello
Jangedi for stealing a cow. The question that immediately comes to mind
is what is a common thread that runs through these three religiously
motivated events. It is obvious that there is no point of convergence.
The fact that man is a religious animal, and that his ontology and
psychology cannot be fully explained and appreciated in isolation of
his religion, makes it difficult for one to give a common meaning and
explanation to the diverse and often strange religious practices among
people.
It must be admitted, that one of the reasons for religion is that man
finds himself in a helpless situation. Thrown into a world whose origin
and ultimate destiny he does not know; frightened by the prospect of
death and annihilation, man binds himself to God in religious acts,
rites, beliefs and practices. Man is thus oriented to God through
religion, not only because he is a spiritual being, but because in God
he finds fullness of life, the source of his being and the sustenance
of his life.
This search for God has become a passion for some, a puzzle for
others,but a necessary adventure for all. At times this search has led
to untoward acts verging on violence, fanaticism, fetishism and even
satanism. The history of the 20th century cannot be complete without
mentioning the various religious aberrations that have some times
legitimated violence and war, divisions and unwholesome inhuman
practices. Some examples immediately come to mind: Christian Science, a
Christian movement, founded by Mary Baker Eddy, late in the 19th
century rejected chiropractic treatment, vitamins, nutrition, drugs as
well as immunisations for its worshippers. This is because, they
believe that what our five senses tell us about pain and suffering are
false and mortal beliefs - the spate of deaths that followed this
unscriptural practice led to the demise of this movement.
Charles Manson who founded the Process Church in America had preached
that Christ and devil are no longer enemies. Thus by killing for satan,
his followers would be doing a noble mission for Christ. He therefore
launched a bloody war in 1969 against the Caucasians in America. How
xenophobia can help bring about the growth of God's kingdom remains a
puzzle that Manson is yet to solve. In November 1978, the eccentric,
Rev. Jim Jones, who led a strange Christian movement, moved his
followers to drink cyanide on a mountain in Jonestown, Guyana. That
mass suicide which destroyed over 900 souls represents the highest
number of religion - inspired mass death in recent times.
The Black Muslim group,started in America in 1913 by Timothy Drend (who
changed his name later to Noble Drend Ali),and promoted in the 60's by
Malcolm X, encouraged racial hatred through what it called 'social
separation' This was an euphemism for violence against Whites. Indeed
the 'black muslims preached that the whiteman's day of destruction was
coming, and that there would be no hell for blacks, since their
sufferings through slavery, colonialism and racism were hell enough.
The moslem Shiites have also proved to be an avant - garde zealous
group in the promotion of Islam; a zeal that has resulted in deaths
even against their fellow moslems. In Kashmir, once a year, young
Shiahs parade through the streets of Srinagar, scourging their bodies
with knives and chains. This self- mutilation ritual laments the
martyrdom of Hussain, Ali's son and Prophet Muhammed's (PBWH) grandson,
who was massacred in an attempt to restore the seat of Islam to Medina.
All these acts by various religions are aimed at pleasing God winning
his favours and dwelling with him forever after death. However, there
seems to be a somewhat tenuous link in all these that cut across all
these religious acts: the search for God. But can one really find God
without loving his fellow men and women?
The measure of the true value of any religion is to what extent it
promotes the peace and happiness of humankind. Religious practices are
considered good if they enhance the quality of life of people, promote
sound morality in society and project the ideal of love. Sometimes,
some of our religious acts do not approximate to these ideals. Indeed,
the religion that we need in the new millennium is a religion that
promotes a culture of life, and an attitude of compassion to everybody,
especially the neediest, who are placed at the very margin of the good
things of life.
Such a religion must sustain all men and women in a network of love and
must cast our traumatized world in a rich mosaic of peace, justice,
brotherhood, solidarity, mutual acceptance, equality and freedom. These
values can unite humanity in future because they are incarnated in all
religions, but are sadly distorted by their adherents. We are plunging
into anguish and fear, violence and hatred, desperation and selfishness
in our country because we have not allowed these values to crystallise
in our national structures.
Many people of diverse religious persuasions - Mahatma Gandhi (Hindu),
Mother Teresa (Christian) and Anwar Sadat (moslem) had realised these
values in their lives and helped change our world. The greatest
challenge facing Nigerians today is to purge themselves of their
untoward and self-serving religious hypocrisy, which sometimes leak
through the veneer of religiosity to expose the farce of a facile
civility and the face of a false tribal chauvinism.
It is these values of peace, reconciliation, justice, fraternity and
love that Pope John Paul II promoted in the Middle East. How the
amputation of Bello Jangedi's arm in Zamfara State, and the mass
suicide in Uganda can project and promote these values, remain a puzzle
to many discerning minds.
Rev. Fr. Ilo is of the Catholic Secretariat, Lagos
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Folks,
Knowing Tombong's stye of writing I just laugh and disregard the
posting.The language used in that posting are foreign in Tombong's mind.It
is quite unfortunate that people jokes at all times without calculating its
effects.This is a forum for the competition of postive ideas.Hope this will
be avoided in future.
ARONA
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>Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 05:57:44 -0500
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>Hello folks,
> Those two messages from [log in to unmask], aaahmmmm, disregard it
>please. It wasn't him who sent it and my apologies to those who responded
>and Tombong, the victim of a disgruntled citizen. It was an APRIL FOOL
>JOKE. Nothing really personal, in fact I don't know him well to care
>enough but as a man I must apologize and tell the truth. I guess one thing
>both Tombong and myself should learn from this is that "it hurts when
>you've been LIED to, doesn't it! ". Only the TRUTH shall set you free.
>
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This is indeed great news. We must commend the likes of Lawyer Ousman Sillah
who put their lifes on the line to ensure that a semblance of the rule of
law prevails in our beloved country. My posting last night on the powers of
the Coroner and suggestions as to how to move forward with those
investigations was a manifestation of how large this cause we are fighting
far is. There is room here for the Saines, Tourays, Collys, Jattas, Damphas,
Njies, Robinsons, Johs, Gassamas, Jassehs etc. This cause is bigger than our
individual self interests. And we must all remember that none of us have
intellectual property rights in the truth and what is best for The Gambia.
Our main focus should be TO GET RID OF YAYA BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. The
Tombongs of this world are just side shows that should be given minimum
regard.
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>Subject: High Court Orders the Release of 20 Students
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:12:20 +0100
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>HIGH COURT ORDERS THE RELEASE OF 20 STUDENTS
>
>Following the events of 10 April 2000, many student were arrested and
>detained. Some were released, but some were still detained.
>
>On 20 April 2000, The Gambia Student Association filed an originating
>summons against the Inspector General of Police and the Attorney General
>seeking for the following declarations and orders:
>
>a) A declaration that the arrest and detention of Pa Alasan Ceesay,
>Sainabou
>Jaye, Lamin Jobe, Alajie Camara, Ebrima Daffeh, Abdou Sonko, Kaddy Njie,
>Musa Jobarteh, Omar Joof, Nakulang Ceesay, Baboucarr Ann, Alieu Khan,
>Baboucarr Jonga, Alajie Darboe, Lamin Jadama, Abdou Sonko, Lamin Touray,
>Alieu Krubally, Kebba Jallow and Janko Dibba is wrong, and is in
>contravention of the constitution;
>
>b) An order directing the unconditional release of these 20 students by the
>Inspector General of Police and the Attorney General without further delay;
>
>c) An injunction against the Inspector General of Police, his agents and
>servants prohibiting them from interfering or in any way fettering the
>liberty of these 20 students.
>
>Hearing took place at the High Court before Justice Sey on Wednesday, 26
>April 2000.
>
>The Director of Public Prosecution, Ms Atiba Davies represented the
>Attorney
>General and the Inspector General of Police while the applicant was
>represented by a team of lawyers led by Mr Ousman Sillah.
>
>When the case was announced, Ms Atiba Davies applied for an adjournment
>because, as she said, she received the application the day before. The
>judge
>turned down the application on the ground that what was before her was not
>a
>motion but an originating summons and that the issue concerned fundamental
>rights.
>
>In arguing in support of the motion, Mr Sillah pointed out that the
>application was brought in the form of an originating summons. Under
>sections 5, 17, 19, 21, 24, 25 and 37 of the Constitution, and the
>application was supported by a 31 paragraph affidavit.
>
>Mr Sillah then went through each paragraph. In the end, he noted that the
>alleged torture cases will be addressed in due course.
>
>RULING
>
>In her ruling, the judge ordered the respondents to forthwith release the
>20
>detained students unconditionally; that there should be no interference
>with
>their liberty as they are not charged.
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:12:33 +0100
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Subject: Remanded fire officers released
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Remanded fire officers released
=20
=20
Six officers of the Brikama fire and ambulance services who were =
remanded in custody this month in connection with the alleged killing of =
Ebrima Barry have been release on bail.=20
The six officers, Momodou Colley, Amadou Badjie, Ousman Myolleh, =
Kebba Conteh, Alhajie E. Secka and Samba Sawo were on April 6, 2000 =
released on bail in the sum of fifty thousand Dalasis with two Gambian =
sureties and a landed property each. This was about four days before the =
April 10 student demonstrations that left at least a dozen people dead =
and much public and private property destroyed.=20
The six officers were charged with murder following the death of =
Ebrima Barry, a student of Foster's secondary school, Brikama. Ebrima =
was allegedly beaten to death by officers of the Brikama Fire Service.=20
The officers charged were first arraigned before the Banjul =
magistrate's court on March 30. They had since pleaded not guilty to the =
charge but were ordered to be remanded until such a time that they were =
granted bail by the high court.=20
During the first week of this month, lawyer Momodou Lamin Jobarteh =
on behalf of the six officers, filed a bail application at the high =
court. In his ruling on the bail application, Justice Wallace Grant, =
after considering the court proceeding, decided to grant them bail =
noting that murder was a bailable offence. The officers were released =
after fulfilling the bail requirements.=20
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face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT" size=3D-1>Six officers =
of the=20
Brikama fire and ambulance services who were remanded in custody =
this=20
month in connection with the alleged killing of Ebrima Barry have =
been=20
release on bail.</FONT>=20
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BT"=20
size=3D-1>The six officers, Momodou Colley, Amadou Badjie, Ousman =
Myolleh,=20
Kebba Conteh, Alhajie E. Secka and Samba Sawo were on April 6, =
2000=20
released on bail in the sum of fifty thousand Dalasis with two =
Gambian=20
sureties and a landed property each. This was about four days =
before the=20
April 10 student demonstrations that left at least a dozen people =
dead and=20
much public and private property destroyed.=20
<P align=3Djustify>The six officers were charged with murder =
following the=20
death of Ebrima Barry, a student of Foster's secondary school, =
Brikama.=20
Ebrima was allegedly beaten to death by officers of the Brikama =
Fire=20
Service.=20
<P align=3Djustify>The officers charged were first arraigned =
before the=20
Banjul magistrate's court on March 30. They had since pleaded not =
guilty=20
to the charge but were ordered to be remanded until such a time =
that they=20
were granted bail by the high court.=20
<P align=3Djustify>During the first week of this month, lawyer =
Momodou Lamin=20
Jobarteh on behalf of the six officers, filed a bail application =
at the=20
high court. In his ruling on the bail application, Justice Wallace =
Grant,=20
after considering the court proceeding, decided to grant them bail =
noting=20
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:14:18 +0100
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Subject: One Senegalese killed, 16 detained,
Businessman to sue gov't over alleged shooting
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During student demonstrations=20
One Senegalese killed, 16 detained
=20
=20
The Senegalese High Commissioner in Banjul, General Momodou Diop, =
has confirmed to The Independent that one Senegalese national was =
killed, one hospitalised and 16 arrested during the student =
demonstrations earlier this month.=20
High Commissioner Diop said the government had formally notified =
his office of this and he remained in constant contact with the police, =
Immigration and the Department of State of the Interior.=20
He also confirmed that those arrested were still under detention =
pending investigations to be conducted by the security forces, but that =
he was 'optimistic' that they would be released soon. =20
'It is the duty of the security forces to conduct their own =
investigations in such circumstances,' he said.=20
High Commissioner Diop said that in such situations arrests are =
unavoidable and that investigations are left entirely in the hands of =
the authorities concerned.=20
A senior Embassy official Abdou Niang, disclosed to this reporter =
that the deceased name was Vieux Fode Massaly and that he was born on =
October 15 1981, in Sedhiou, Republic of Senegal. It could not be =
confirmed if Fode Massaly was a student in The Gambia at the time of his =
death.=20
However some Senegalese nationals residing in The Gambia have =
denounced the actions of the security forces claiming that many of their =
compatriots were arrested while they were carrying out their own =
businesses.=20
Galo Sowe, a petty trader, told The Independent that two of his =
fellow workers were arrested while they were 'on their way home' during =
the students demonstrations. He said his colleagues had nothing =
whatsoever to do with the demonstration and called for their immediate =
release.=20
'I witnessed many student demonstrations in Senegal but it was =
never like this =85. This is embarrassing and unfortunate,' he said.=20
Another Senegalese hawker, who was seen being confronted by armed =
officers around the Bakoteh - Sukuta highway junction during the student =
demonstrations, complained that he was beaten up by the police and the =
paramilitary after declaring to them that he was not a student and was =
never involved in any demonstration. =20
The young man, Ousmane Sey, said at the time, 'you can see they =
were hitting and kicking me for nothing. I knew I was helpless as I was =
carrying my own belongings from the Serrekunda market back home.'=20
Many Senegalese nationals residing in The Gambia, however, have =
commended High Commissioner Diop for assisting them greatly in general =
and particularly during times of difficulties.=20
=20
=20
Businessman to sue gov't over alleged shooting=20
Alhagie Ba Tunkara, an international businessman based in the US =
with a home in Serrekunda, has threatened to sue the Gambia Government =
after armed soldiers allegedly fired gun shots inside his compound =
during the student demonstration earlier this month.=20
Mr. Tunkara told The Independent last Wednesday evening that =
during the demonstration armed soldiers 'deliberately targeted' his =
compound and fired gun shots inside the premises, causing 'panic and =
confusion' for his family.=20
He said he had 'visible evidence' to support his claim and a =
member of his family was able to identify the soldiers. =20
He added that he had contacted a lawyer and intended to go =
'straight to the courts because I know it was a deliberate act =85 there =
is no student in my compound and if they are hunting the students no =
armed men should target my house,' he said.=20
Mr Tunkara intends to sue the government for 'unlawful action'.=20
He further disclosed that, if necessary, he was prepared to go to =
other courts beyond the jurisdiction of The Gambia in order to seek =
justice.=20
Mr. Tunkara dismissed the Coroner's inquiry as 'valueless and a =
waste of time, energy and resources' as the Coroner had stated he was =
not out to tell who is guilty or innocent of the shootings. He also =
criticised the President's declaration of seven days mourning. 'I am not =
interested in any display of half flags when those who did the killings =
are going about their business,' he said. 'The truth is right in the =
open,' he declared.=20
Mr. Tunkara, clearly upset by the events, complained that while he =
had made donations to Operation Save a Baby in the past, he now =
considered such action pointless.=20
'It is useless to make such donations, when the babies are later =
slaughtered with impunity,' he said.=20
Mr. Tunkara also denounced certain secretaries of state and some =
religious leaders who, according to him, openly supported the killing of =
innocent students. 'It was so unbelievable when those we expected to =
hit the nail on the head started to create confusion within the general =
public,' he said.=20
'We should put aside money and position whenever the truth arises, =
as Allah cannot be deceived by any human being,' he said. Such people, =
he added, should reform their attitudes to give youths something to =
emulate.=20
Mr. Tunkara commended the private media houses for giving the =
general public correct information.=20
=20
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<P align=3Dcenter><B><I><FONT color=3D#000000=20
face=3D"Times New Roman,Times,Times NewRoman" size=3D+2>During =
student=20
demonstrations <BR></FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Black,Helvetica Black,LB Helvetica Black,Univers =
Black,Zurich Blk BT"=20
size=3D+3></FONT></I><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Black,Helvetica Black,LB Helvetica Black,Univers =
Black,Zurich Blk BT"=20
size=3D+3></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3D"Arial Black,Helvetica Black,LB Helvetica Black,Univers =
Black,Zurich Blk BT"=20
size=3D+3>One Senegalese killed, 16 detained</FONT></P></TD>
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<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT"=20
size=3D-1>The Senegalese High Commissioner in Banjul, General =
Momodou Diop,=20
has confirmed to <I>The Independent</I> that one Senegalese =
national was=20
killed, one hospitalised and 16 arrested during the student =
demonstrations=20
earlier this month.</FONT>=20
<P align=3Djustify><FONT face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich =
BT"=20
size=3D-1>High Commissioner Diop said the government had formally =
notified=20
his office of this and he remained in constant contact with the =
police,=20
Immigration and the Department of State of the Interior.=20
<P align=3Dleft>He also confirmed that those arrested were still =
under=20
detention pending investigations to be conducted by the security =
forces,=20
but that he was 'optimistic' that they would be released =
soon. =20
<P>'It is the duty of the security forces to conduct their own=20
investigations in such circumstances,' he said.=20
<P align=3Djustify>High Commissioner Diop said that in such =
situations=20
arrests are unavoidable and that investigations are left entirely =
in the=20
hands of the authorities concerned.=20
<P align=3Djustify>A senior Embassy official Abdou Niang, =
disclosed to this=20
reporter that the deceased name was Vieux Fode Massaly and that he =
was=20
born on October 15 1981, in Sedhiou, Republic of Senegal. It could =
not be=20
confirmed if Fode Massaly was a student in The Gambia at the time =
of his=20
death.=20
<P align=3Djustify>However some Senegalese nationals residing in =
The Gambia=20
have denounced the actions of the security forces claiming that =
many of=20
their compatriots were arrested while they were carrying out their =
own=20
businesses.=20
<P align=3Dleft>Galo Sowe, a petty trader, told <I>The =
Independent</I> that=20
two of his fellow workers were arrested while they were 'on their =
way=20
home' during the students demonstrations. He said his =
colleagues had=20
nothing whatsoever to do with the demonstration and called for =
their=20
immediate release.=20
<P align=3Djustify>'I witnessed many student demonstrations in =
Senegal but=20
it was never like this =85. This is embarrassing and unfortunate,' =
he said.=20
<P align=3Djustify>Another Senegalese hawker, who was seen being =
confronted=20
by armed officers around the Bakoteh - Sukuta highway junction =
during the=20
student demonstrations, complained that he was beaten up by the =
police and=20
the paramilitary after declaring to them that he was not a student =
and was=20
never involved in any demonstration. =20
<P align=3Djustify>The young man, Ousmane Sey, said at the time, =
'you can=20
see they were hitting and kicking me for nothing. I knew I =
was=20
helpless as I was carrying my own belongings from the Serrekunda =
market=20
back home.'=20
<P align=3Djustify>Many Senegalese nationals residing in The =
Gambia,=20
however, have commended High Commissioner Diop for assisting them =
greatly=20
in general and particularly during times of difficulties. </FONT>
<P align=3Dleft> </P></TD>
<TD colSpan=3D3></TD></TR>
<TR align=3Dleft vAlign=3Dtop>
<TD colSpan=3D16 height=3D15></TD></TR>
<TR align=3Dleft vAlign=3Dtop>
<TD colSpan=3D4></TD>
<TD colSpan=3D8 width=3D362>
<P align=3Dcenter><B><FONT color=3D#000000=20
face=3D"Times New Roman,Times,Times NewRoman" =
size=3D+2>Businessman to sue=20
gov't over alleged shooting</FONT></B>=20
<P align=3Dleft><FONT color=3D#000000 =
face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT"=20
size=3D-1>Alhagie Ba Tunkara, an international businessman based =
in the US=20
with a home in Serrekunda, has threatened to sue the Gambia =
Government=20
after armed soldiers allegedly fired gun shots inside his compound =
during=20
the student demonstration earlier this month.</FONT>=20
<P align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D"Arial,Helvetica,Univers,Zurich BT" =
size=3D-1>Mr.=20
Tunkara told <I>The Independent</I> last Wednesday evening that =
during the=20
demonstration armed soldiers 'deliberately targeted' his compound =
and=20
fired gun shots inside the premises, causing 'panic<B> </B>and =
confusion'=20
for his family.=20
<P align=3Dleft>He said he had 'visible evidence<B>' </B>to =
support his=20
claim and a member of his family was able to identify the =
soldiers. =20
<P align=3Djustify>He added that he had contacted a lawyer and =
intended to=20
go 'straight to the courts because I know it was a deliberate act =
=85 there=20
is no student in my compound and if they are hunting the students =
no armed=20
men should target my house,' he said.=20
<P align=3Djustify>Mr Tunkara intends to sue the government for =
'unlawful=20
action'.=20
<P align=3Djustify>He further disclosed that, if necessary, he was =
prepared=20
to go to other courts beyond the jurisdiction of The Gambia in =
order to=20
seek justice.=20
<P align=3Djustify>Mr. Tunkara dismissed the Coroner's inquiry as =
'valueless=20
and a waste of time, energy and resources' as the Coroner had =
stated he=20
was not out to tell who is guilty or innocent of the shootings. He =
also=20
criticised the President's declaration of seven days mourning. 'I =
am not=20
interested in any display of half flags when those who did the =
killings=20
are going about their business,' he said. 'The truth is right in =
the=20
open,' he declared.=20
<P align=3Djustify>Mr. Tunkara, clearly upset by the events, =
complained that=20
while he had made donations to Operation Save a Baby in the past, =
he now=20
considered such action pointless.=20
<P align=3Djustify>'It is useless to make such donations, when the =
babies=20
are later slaughtered with impunity,' he said.=20
<P align=3Djustify>Mr. Tunkara also denounced certain secretaries =
of state=20
and some religious leaders who, according to him, openly supported =
the=20
killing of innocent students. 'It was so unbelievable when =
those we=20
expected to hit the nail on the head started to create confusion =
within=20
the general public,' he said.=20
<P align=3Djustify>'We should put aside money and position =
whenever the=20
truth arises, as Allah cannot be deceived by any human being,' he=20
said. Such people, he added, should reform their attitudes =
to give=20
youths something to emulate.=20
<P align=3Djustify>Mr. Tunkara commended the private media houses =
for giving=20
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Mr. Kebba Dampha:
Thank you so much for your response to a question I posed earlier about
the Coroner. It helped in clarifying some issues for me.
Abdoulaye
No justice, no peace!
Jammeh Must Go!
Dampha Kebba wrote:
>
> This is indeed great news. We must commend the likes of Lawyer Ousman Sillah
> who put their lifes on the line to ensure that a semblance of the rule of
> law prevails in our beloved country. My posting last night on the powers of
> the Coroner and suggestions as to how to move forward with those
> investigations was a manifestation of how large this cause we are fighting
> far is. There is room here for the Saines, Tourays, Collys, Jattas, Damphas,
> Njies, Robinsons, Johs, Gassamas, Jassehs etc. This cause is bigger than our
> individual self interests. And we must all remember that none of us have
> intellectual property rights in the truth and what is best for The Gambia.
> Our main focus should be TO GET RID OF YAYA BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. The
> Tombongs of this world are just side shows that should be given minimum
> regard.
>
> >From: foroyaa <[log in to unmask]>
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> >Subject: High Court Orders the Release of 20 Students
> >Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:12:20 +0100
> >
> >HIGH COURT ORDERS THE RELEASE OF 20 STUDENTS
> >
> >Following the events of 10 April 2000, many student were arrested and
> >detained. Some were released, but some were still detained.
> >
> >On 20 April 2000, The Gambia Student Association filed an originating
> >summons against the Inspector General of Police and the Attorney General
> >seeking for the following declarations and orders:
> >
> >a) A declaration that the arrest and detention of Pa Alasan Ceesay,
> >Sainabou
> >Jaye, Lamin Jobe, Alajie Camara, Ebrima Daffeh, Abdou Sonko, Kaddy Njie,
> >Musa Jobarteh, Omar Joof, Nakulang Ceesay, Baboucarr Ann, Alieu Khan,
> >Baboucarr Jonga, Alajie Darboe, Lamin Jadama, Abdou Sonko, Lamin Touray,
> >Alieu Krubally, Kebba Jallow and Janko Dibba is wrong, and is in
> >contravention of the constitution;
> >
> >b) An order directing the unconditional release of these 20 students by the
> >Inspector General of Police and the Attorney General without further delay;
> >
> >c) An injunction against the Inspector General of Police, his agents and
> >servants prohibiting them from interfering or in any way fettering the
> >liberty of these 20 students.
> >
> >Hearing took place at the High Court before Justice Sey on Wednesday, 26
> >April 2000.
> >
> >The Director of Public Prosecution, Ms Atiba Davies represented the
> >Attorney
> >General and the Inspector General of Police while the applicant was
> >represented by a team of lawyers led by Mr Ousman Sillah.
> >
> >When the case was announced, Ms Atiba Davies applied for an adjournment
> >because, as she said, she received the application the day before. The
> >judge
> >turned down the application on the ground that what was before her was not
> >a
> >motion but an originating summons and that the issue concerned fundamental
> >rights.
> >
> >In arguing in support of the motion, Mr Sillah pointed out that the
> >application was brought in the form of an originating summons. Under
> >sections 5, 17, 19, 21, 24, 25 and 37 of the Constitution, and the
> >application was supported by a 31 paragraph affidavit.
> >
> >Mr Sillah then went through each paragraph. In the end, he noted that the
> >alleged torture cases will be addressed in due course.
> >
> >RULING
> >
> >In her ruling, the judge ordered the respondents to forthwith release the
> >20
> >detained students unconditionally; that there should be no interference
> >with
> >their liberty as they are not charged.
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Folks,
I do not know how Mr. Makaveli can call these messages "an APRIL
FOOL JOKE" and "Nothing really personal". It is very cruel and distasteful
to send this kind of remarks and sign as Tombong.
This kind of behavior is the greatest threat to the future of Gambia-L. As
such I will ask the Management to ask Mr. Makaveli to unsubscribe himself
from Gambia-l or be removed!
Malanding Jaiteh
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> Hello folks,
> Those two messages from [log in to unmask], aaahmmmm, disregard it
> please. It wasn't him who sent it and my apologies to those who responded
and Tombong, the victim of a disgruntled citizen. It was an APRIL FOOL
> JOKE. Nothing really personal, in fact I don't know him well to care
> enough but as a man I must apologize and tell the truth. I guess one thing
> both Tombong and myself should learn from this is that "it hurts when
you've been LIED to, doesn't it! ". Only the TRUTH shall set you free.
>
> PEACE
> Mr. Makaveli
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The preposterous Tombong Saidy misbehaving badly. Well.... just to inform you that i will be online tonight to deal with your irrational exuberance and petulances. Watch this space.
Hamjatta
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I am sure Mr.Colley is a humble and peace loving Gambian. I can understand,
that he want immediate change, and I am sure thats what the majority of this
forum wants as well.
Well, however, despite the need for change I dont think the military would
be a structural option to effect changes. We shall even be with the opinion
that their dead machine guns be destroyed for good! they just cost us
nothing but trouble.
Although, the nature of politics, economy and social life in the Gambia has
been experienced as no exception to one of the must babaric rules of the
era; intensity and violence. Its socioeconomic deprivation of those in the
"surbodinate class" is absolute! Absolute power corrupts absolutely!The gab
between the poor the and few rich is getting bigger and bigger!With the
ostentatious wealth of a tiny minority, and all the more inhuman for sapping
the very dignity of the poor, the Gambia is left at the mercy of corrupt
class of thieves, very arrogant, agressive and selfish. social unrest and
conflicts becomes the authomatic order of the day! Gambia is at a very
delicate and fragile moment of political and social unrest. We must handle
the situation with care.
Certainly, the desire of the average Gambian is to effect change.However, it
is important to understand that change only become effective if the reason
for change is understood by memembers of the society. Political maturity and
understanding is a greate tool for the people to be sensitive to changes
affecting them. Therefore with collective efforts we shall try to adjust the
level of political maturity and understanding of civic rigths and duties in
our soceities; to make the bulk of the people understand that politics is a
very important part of their lives, that it is the steering wheel of
society. As long as that is not understood, there will be little sucess in
change,and most probability there will be many of its kind; Change!Change!
and Change!!!!
The desire to forward change in the Gambia is the primary will of many and
this shall take a systematic process effective and beneficial for the mass.
To understand the scenario is of significant importance. What good will it
make to use the military for a change of government?
In my opinion, that would not do any good if the people are are not oriented
to the changes.
We should learn from the experiences of the 1981 coup which gave birth to
the 1994 coup.A posible transition of a sucession of coups and
violence!Even with the corrupt and incompetent class gone, the system will
pass way down through decays of political and social intacts. It could only
pave way to endless coups and scrifies of live, wealth and public property!
It is up to society to openly acknowledge their opposing interest, and
establish mechanisms for dealing with the situation. That is why,it is
important to make the society understand why there is a need for changes.
If the majority is able to realise the malpractice and the agressive
govenance style of the regime, they will be able to react for repressiion,
and will not even tolerate openly negotiation.In a way repression of
conflict does not eliminate the opposing interest, like wise if the military
takes over in the Gambia, it will not change the culture of political
maturity and understanding. Therefore, without explicit mechanisms for
resolving or negotiating opposing interest, the underlying antagonism will
continue to exist, sething beneat the surface of relationship; the state of
mind of the people and style of govenance.
A posible consequence of repression of this situation is the deflection of
hostile feelings from their real source and the development of alternative
channels for their expression.Such alternatives, are a kind of safety value
through which hostile or agressive impulses can be expressed in ways that do
not threaten or undermine the peaceful and democratic will of the people.
We are at a "mental production" process, contrary the regime is at a
"imotional production" process. The distiction is signifant to recognise.The
government who controls the means of coercion has the potential and will to
impose their will on the people through the threat of violence. This is a
very significant point for those realable to make changes. What is their
role?
To determine change, it is universally agreed that military action has only
did more bad than good.Violence will only lead to more violence! and making
changes with violent without the people being concious of the effects of
changes is prelude to insernity. It is therefore important to communicate
with the people, mass information process! Events and perceptions that are
important to the society are to be expressible. As soon as the concept of an
ideal society is inserted in the minds of the people, then the concept
becomes important.The meanings conveyed, should not not be underextimated,
when they correspond with the concepts, which to action, and what relations
applied between concepts and actions, shall eventually result to a persive
value of deciplined and independent minds that are capable enough to realise
changes effecting them.
I believe, the choices of a rational decision maker are determined primarily
by expected values associated with possible decisions, the probablities of
the events, and the payoffs and penetalties of various outcomes.In this
regard, we must be considerable to what the outcomes of military entrvention
can entails.
May the Almighty heal the Gambia with more blessings, peace and love.
Yahya
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>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:24:28 -0700
>
> YAYA MUST GO
>
>I just can’t believe that there are Gambians out
>there, still trying to treat Yaya’s government as a
>reasonable establishment. How could anyone think that
>the APRC government would provide the logical answers
>to the contradictory questions raised in the latest
>Point Newspaper publications? If you think the
>government would come up with the reasonable answers
>about why Yaya is pretending to look fair and good on
>one side by trying to comfort the families of the
>victims of the massacre, but on the other side he
>continues to act like the devil he is by illegally
>detaining several other poor students, you must be
>living in a dream world. What most of you fail to
>understand is that Yaya measures the mentality of
>every Gambian by the degree of the inept head he
>carries over his shoulders. He is not at all
>intelligent; thus he treats every person by his level
>of thinking. Unfortunately, those around him would
>keep on telling him that he is way in the sky even
>when his tail is on fire in a hole below the earth.
>All I have to say anyway is that the idiot is living
>on borrowed time. He is already finish.
>
>Having said that, I still want to add a few lines by
>answering few questions. While we were in the army we
>could not overthrow Yaya because there was no apparent
>reason to do so. We were professional soldiers who
>served with all those military ethics, codes and
>principles well respected in the job we did. Yaya knew
>that he could not have been crazy in our time to give
>us such unlawful orders to shoot and kill school
>children. That would have the order toend his
>administration. We had conscience and strongly
>believed in god and Yaya knew that very well. If Yaya
>had ordered us to shoot kids as young as three, we
>would have smoked him instead rather than commit that
>heinous crime in the name of soldiering. That is why,
>like every reasonable person, we think that he belongs
>in jail and not to head a nation. Child killers cannot
>be allowed to roam civilized streets much more heading
>the nation of god-fearing humans like Gambians. So
>don’t disturb us with what we should or should not
>have done in our past careers.
>
>To also think that Yaya would easily relinquish power
>in the wake of losing in a general election is another
>sad dream nurtured in some naive heads. For some of
>you who still cannot get the point, you need to now
>understand that Yaya is among those foolish dictators
>who have the absurd notion that the country belongs to
>them and them alone. Beside, he would certainly be
>reluctant to leave because his hands are seriously
>steeped in blood and his pockets full of booty. He
>knows that all his past gory misdeeds would be
>exposed. Hence he would cling to power regardless of
>the cost or consequence. That therefore leaves no
>choice but to dislodge him in the very manner he got
>himself that seat. Historians on African politics have
>long codified the statistics that between 1957 and
>1990 there were 150 heads of state in the continent
>but only six had ever relinquish power voluntarily.
>Discount Yaya from the honorable category of the
>legacy of those six.
>
>Landing Jatta and Kebba Dampha, I must commend you for
>your courage and determination. You are admirable
>heroes in my camp. You must never lose sight of the
>fact that we are the last hopes. Arguments of various
>kinds would continue to be forwarded to dampen our
>spirits but you must maintain the positive position.
>We are definitely on the right track. YAYA MUST GO BY
>ALL MEANS!!!!
>
>Ebou Colly.
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Tombong!
I'm not gonna waste my time deciphering your garbage.
Whether this is your posting or not I don't give a
funk! From most of your reports and postings on this
board, you are what the postings depict of you. It is
apparent when one looks at your picture and see
nothing but a demon, a dumb one for that matter.
It is okay to be a cab driver and then a director of
communications, so long as you have the credentials to
back it. In your case monsieur, I guess your info
library is limited to the rural routes of D.C. and
Maryland. Fight the bottle brother! Fight the
bottle!
While wondering about your doomsday and that of your
leader, I will resort to my solemn prayers for "ALL
Gambians".
Regards!
Essa
--- TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> This posting just manifests how shallow some members
> will go to try
> to discredit me and it is some thing new in the list
> and list managers
> should look in to this matter. Such clandestine
> activities should not be
> encouraged in this forum and allow low lives will
> support such an activity.
> This is a serious matter and Katim and the others
> MUST take action on this
> to maintain the credibility of this forum. I do not
> think it helps to allow
> people to impersonate others. The table could turn
> and a lot of members will
> not be happy.
>
> You are wasting your times, this just means I an
> winning and getting on
> your nerves. If you cannot stand the heat get the
> hell out of the
> kitchen. I will always be a thorn on your sides.
>
> This from: >Gambiansonline ..Design With The Gambian
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> Katim and list managers, the ball is on your court
> to restore the
> credibility of this forum.
>
>
> PEACE
>
> TOMBONG
>
>
> >>From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
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> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
> >>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:55:57 -0500
> >>
> >>I've said it before and I will say it again, Yahya
> Rules and as long he
> >>does I will continue to lick his ass. Yes I beat
> the shit out of my wife
> >>because she cheated on me and yes I was a cab
> driver, but guess what, am
> >>now the Director of TV and RADIO now. Am not going
> to give my job away
> >>even if it means hiding the truth from the people.
> So do I make myself
> >>clear?
> >>
> >>
> PEACE
> >>
> Tomboy
> >>
> >>These so called patriots or whatever they term
> themselves are day
> >>dreaming.
> >>Why didn't they over throw the Government when
> they were hear? Let them
> >>come
> >>and believe that we will just fold our hands and
> allow them to take over.
> >>Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove
> Jammeh, come and participate
> >>in the political process just like PDOIS and the
> others are doing
> >>otherwise
> >>keep your peace.
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To New York Protest organizers,
Please send me the petition letter and also forward the email regarding the time and date of the N.Y. protest.
I am in contact with my sister-in-law @ NBC NY to cover this important event by the network.
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I agree with Malanding's contention that Makavelli's postings were distasteful to say the least. It is a disservice to the List to impersonate Tombong or any other person for that matter, especially given the content and context of the postings. A simple apology is not enough. I am also in favor of Makavelli's resignation or removal from the List.
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Gambia-L:
I'm not here to hold brief for Tombong and I often desist from jumping into
personal issues. However, the political bickering and wrangling aside it is
my opinion that such mail as the "joke" recently posted on Tombong will
undermine our efforts to win our political debates.
Apparently, some people still tend to ignore Mr. Sarr's posting that this
was a "joke", albeit a serious one. We can fight, but we can still respect
eachother, I believe. As far as I know, Tombong is the only person that
comes from the other side of the fence to express himself regardless of the
fact that he is supporting a government that most of us would like to hang
by the neck.
Let's not forget that even when the students were massacred some APRC
supporters on this list saliently went mum, neither here nor there. Tombong
at least dares show his true colors.
I know we're yearning for a uniform political base, in which every Gambian
would live under an equitable and just political system. But as long as the
sun rises and sets, as long as good and evil, right and wrong exist, we'll
always have people who'd deviate from this ideal, for whatever reason. It is
by accepting this deviation that we can build a fair and just society, that
we can debate and finally say, "we've won, we've won!".
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Nabiha,
Nice to know that you haven't forgotten our days at school
together. I must say that i was really impressed when i read your first
poem .... i didn't know you had it in you! Hope you and your family are
okay.
Yai-Fatou
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Nabiha Safriwe wrote:
> Yai-fatou,
> First of all I would like to say hi to you, it's been
> such a long time.
>
> I am very proud of the fact that you and your sister
> (Ancha), are doing so much to help alleviate this pain
> that we are all going through. It is always a
> consolation, knowing that we can put aside our
> differences at times of trouble, to work things out.
> After all, it is for the common good of our beloved
> Motherland, the Gambia. I want to take this chance to
> thank everyone who contributed towards this purpose.
> For those who have not done anything yet, just know
> that it is still not too late.
>
> As Mike Leavitt puts it, "There is a time in the life
> of every problem when it is big enough to see, yet
> small enough to solve."
>
> Thank you.
> Nabiha
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- "Y. Bala-gaye" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > After going through 750+ messeges (I was
> > incommunicado because
> > of my finals), i must say that it is beautiful
> > indeed to see Gambians
> > putting aside their petty differences and uniting in
> > this common goal
> > for a 'free Gambia'. We must realise that nothing
> > is without wisdom and i
> > believe the wisdom behind the events that have been
> > brewing for the past
> > few years and which reached a climax on April 10th
> > is this: the price of
> > freedom is never cheap. As such, we must not loose
> > faith or give up hope.
> > God said, "with hardship cometh ease". No doubt we
> > are in the most trying
> > times, but the promise of God Almighty is true, so
> > we can be assured that
> > ease (peace and democracy in this case) will
> > definitely be forthcoming.
> > However, our duty is patience and perseverance while
> > we wait for God's
> > promise to be fulfilled - and God's timing is the
> > best! With the efforts
> > of people such as Buharry (contragulations on the
> > baby girl, may God give
> > her everything that is good and keep from her
> > everything that is evil, and
> > complete her with His light), Jabou, Yankuba, etc.,
> > etc.,etc.; eloquent
> > words from the likes of Alpha Robinson and Nabiha;
> > insightful analyses
> > such as those from Amadou Kabir and Momodou Sidibeh,
> > I believe we can most
> > certainly persevere. And to make assurance doubly
> > sure, we have generated
> > a lot of steam both locally and internationally (i
> > have the 750+ e-mails
> > to prove it!) to keep us going. So perseverance will
> > not be a problem,
> > however i think patience might. While we're sending
> > petitions to
> > international organisations and such, let's remember
> > that the west doesn't
> > necessarily have the answers - wasn't America
> > responsible for getting
> > Jammeh in, in the first place? Anyway, speculation
> > or not, I think we
> > should be cautious what we ask for, because if we're
> > asking for economic
> > sanctions (i believe someone recommended it a couple
> > of hundred emails
> > back, but i'm glad i haven't seen this particular
> > recommendation in any of
> > the petitions i've signed thus far), then we should
> > be aware of the
> > implications of such a request. The implications...
> > are that the Gambian
> > people will just continue to suffer, end of story.
> > Take Iraq as a case in
> > point....the sanctions have only resulted in making
> > the already miserable
> > life of the common Iraqi more miserable. The actual
> > people that the
> > sanctions were intended to hurt are still enjoying
> > life despite the
> > sanctions. Momodou Sidibeh stated that two-thirds
> > of the
> > direct investment in the country according to the
> > central bank comes from
> > Gambians abroad sending money to supplement their
> > relatives' meagre
> > incomes. So let's be careful that all this call for
> > international
> > involvement does not backfire on us.
> > With regards to the effort being put into
> > all of this, excuse my
> > lack of physical presence because i'm all the way up
> > here in
> > no-man's-land, Hamilton,Canada, and as such my
> > contributions in the form
> > of money is about all i can afford. However, my
> > sister, Ancha is at home
> > right now and she said that she has opened an
> > account for the families of
> > the deceased and she was going to put the account #
> > and other relevant
> > info. on the list. However, i've informed her of the
> > contributions already
> > being collected in NA and Europe, so it would not
> > make sense to put
> > another account on the list for this purpose. But i
> > was wondering if there
> > is already a mechanism in place, by which the monies
> > collected abroad are
> > going to be distributed to the various families. If
> > so, maybe you can have
> > my sister coordinate with whoever is in responsible
> > (just to have more
> > people help out). But if not, maybe Soffie Ceesay
> > and Alpha Robinson can
> > forward whatever they've collected and she can
> > distribute it as necessary.
> > Just in case the issue of trust comes up, Ancha
> > worked with GESO to get
> > the computers that were donated down to Banjul and
> > she was responsible for
> > handling the particulars when they got there. So
> > Jabou and others can
> > vouch for her if necessary. Whatever the case, my
> > sister as usual is
> > prepared to help so if there is a need for people at
> > home to coordinate
> > efforts, I'm sure she's ready and willing insofar as
> > her schedule at RVH
> > permits. She's been working some crazy hours lately!
> > So if anyone has any
> > suggestions, let me know and i'll forward them to
> > her. She will probably
> > try to get on the L concerning this but like i said,
> > she's busy and has
> > computer issues so i'm her messenger for the time
> > being.
> > In the meantime, let's all keep doing what
> > we can for our beloved
> > country and remember to pray for the dead and ask
> > God to make the grief
> > easier to bear for their families and help us in our
> > endeavours for a
> > 'Free Gambia'.
> >
> > Yai-Fatou Gaye.
> >
> >
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I want to know who this Mod Ceesay is and if he is writting from Banjul.
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I sent two emails to the list about 8 hours ago with regards to Georg Sarr's
impersonation of Tombong but the mail seems to be lost or hanging somewhere in
cyberspace. I have the same opinion as Dr. Janneh and Malanding. I am in favour
for the removal of George Sarr.
Regards,
Momodou Camara
On 27 Apr 00, at 12:17, Dr. Amadou S. Janneh wrote:
> Gambia-l:
> I agree with Malanding's contention that Makavelli's postings were distasteful to say the least. It is a disservice to the List to impersonate Tombong or any other person for that matter, especially given the content and context of the postings. A simple apology is not enough. I am also in
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I was shocked at how that could be done
Now i will be very careful to comment on anything unless it is verified.
Maybe there should be a procedure to certify that the message came from the origin claimed.
It could happen to any one of us ,from Katim to Dr Janneh or any innocent contributor.
Again he can subscribe with a new name so even if he is removed he will be on the list in 24 hrs.An apology and a promise not to do so again is in line.
Wow
technology these days -amazing
Best regards
Habib Diab Ghanim, SR
"Dr. Amadou S. Janneh" wrote:
> Gambia-l:
> I agree with Malanding's contention that Makavelli's postings were distasteful to say the least. It is a disservice to the List to impersonate Tombong or any other person for that matter, especially given the content and context of the postings. A simple apology is not enough. I am also in favor of Makavelli's resignation or removal from the List.
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Yai-Fatou
Let Ancha know that we appreciate her efforts and yours always. Thanks
May Allah reward your efforts
Habib Diab Ghanim, Sr.
"Y. Bala-gaye" wrote:
> Nabiha,
>
> Nice to know that you haven't forgotten our days at school
> together. I must say that i was really impressed when i read your first
> poem .... i didn't know you had it in you! Hope you and your family are
> okay.
>
> Yai-Fatou
>
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Nabiha Safriwe wrote:
>
> > Yai-fatou,
> > First of all I would like to say hi to you, it's been
> > such a long time.
> >
> > I am very proud of the fact that you and your sister
> > (Ancha), are doing so much to help alleviate this pain
> > that we are all going through. It is always a
> > consolation, knowing that we can put aside our
> > differences at times of trouble, to work things out.
> > After all, it is for the common good of our beloved
> > Motherland, the Gambia. I want to take this chance to
> > thank everyone who contributed towards this purpose.
> > For those who have not done anything yet, just know
> > that it is still not too late.
> >
> > As Mike Leavitt puts it, "There is a time in the life
> > of every problem when it is big enough to see, yet
> > small enough to solve."
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Nabiha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Y. Bala-gaye" <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > > After going through 750+ messeges (I was
> > > incommunicado because
> > > of my finals), i must say that it is beautiful
> > > indeed to see Gambians
> > > putting aside their petty differences and uniting in
> > > this common goal
> > > for a 'free Gambia'. We must realise that nothing
> > > is without wisdom and i
> > > believe the wisdom behind the events that have been
> > > brewing for the past
> > > few years and which reached a climax on April 10th
> > > is this: the price of
> > > freedom is never cheap. As such, we must not loose
> > > faith or give up hope.
> > > God said, "with hardship cometh ease". No doubt we
> > > are in the most trying
> > > times, but the promise of God Almighty is true, so
> > > we can be assured that
> > > ease (peace and democracy in this case) will
> > > definitely be forthcoming.
> > > However, our duty is patience and perseverance while
> > > we wait for God's
> > > promise to be fulfilled - and God's timing is the
> > > best! With the efforts
> > > of people such as Buharry (contragulations on the
> > > baby girl, may God give
> > > her everything that is good and keep from her
> > > everything that is evil, and
> > > complete her with His light), Jabou, Yankuba, etc.,
> > > etc.,etc.; eloquent
> > > words from the likes of Alpha Robinson and Nabiha;
> > > insightful analyses
> > > such as those from Amadou Kabir and Momodou Sidibeh,
> > > I believe we can most
> > > certainly persevere. And to make assurance doubly
> > > sure, we have generated
> > > a lot of steam both locally and internationally (i
> > > have the 750+ e-mails
> > > to prove it!) to keep us going. So perseverance will
> > > not be a problem,
> > > however i think patience might. While we're sending
> > > petitions to
> > > international organisations and such, let's remember
> > > that the west doesn't
> > > necessarily have the answers - wasn't America
> > > responsible for getting
> > > Jammeh in, in the first place? Anyway, speculation
> > > or not, I think we
> > > should be cautious what we ask for, because if we're
> > > asking for economic
> > > sanctions (i believe someone recommended it a couple
> > > of hundred emails
> > > back, but i'm glad i haven't seen this particular
> > > recommendation in any of
> > > the petitions i've signed thus far), then we should
> > > be aware of the
> > > implications of such a request. The implications...
> > > are that the Gambian
> > > people will just continue to suffer, end of story.
> > > Take Iraq as a case in
> > > point....the sanctions have only resulted in making
> > > the already miserable
> > > life of the common Iraqi more miserable. The actual
> > > people that the
> > > sanctions were intended to hurt are still enjoying
> > > life despite the
> > > sanctions. Momodou Sidibeh stated that two-thirds
> > > of the
> > > direct investment in the country according to the
> > > central bank comes from
> > > Gambians abroad sending money to supplement their
> > > relatives' meagre
> > > incomes. So let's be careful that all this call for
> > > international
> > > involvement does not backfire on us.
> > > With regards to the effort being put into
> > > all of this, excuse my
> > > lack of physical presence because i'm all the way up
> > > here in
> > > no-man's-land, Hamilton,Canada, and as such my
> > > contributions in the form
> > > of money is about all i can afford. However, my
> > > sister, Ancha is at home
> > > right now and she said that she has opened an
> > > account for the families of
> > > the deceased and she was going to put the account #
> > > and other relevant
> > > info. on the list. However, i've informed her of the
> > > contributions already
> > > being collected in NA and Europe, so it would not
> > > make sense to put
> > > another account on the list for this purpose. But i
> > > was wondering if there
> > > is already a mechanism in place, by which the monies
> > > collected abroad are
> > > going to be distributed to the various families. If
> > > so, maybe you can have
> > > my sister coordinate with whoever is in responsible
> > > (just to have more
> > > people help out). But if not, maybe Soffie Ceesay
> > > and Alpha Robinson can
> > > forward whatever they've collected and she can
> > > distribute it as necessary.
> > > Just in case the issue of trust comes up, Ancha
> > > worked with GESO to get
> > > the computers that were donated down to Banjul and
> > > she was responsible for
> > > handling the particulars when they got there. So
> > > Jabou and others can
> > > vouch for her if necessary. Whatever the case, my
> > > sister as usual is
> > > prepared to help so if there is a need for people at
> > > home to coordinate
> > > efforts, I'm sure she's ready and willing insofar as
> > > her schedule at RVH
> > > permits. She's been working some crazy hours lately!
> > > So if anyone has any
> > > suggestions, let me know and i'll forward them to
> > > her. She will probably
> > > try to get on the L concerning this but like i said,
> > > she's busy and has
> > > computer issues so i'm her messenger for the time
> > > being.
> > > In the meantime, let's all keep doing what
> > > we can for our beloved
> > > country and remember to pray for the dead and ask
> > > God to make the grief
> > > easier to bear for their families and help us in our
> > > endeavours for a
> > > 'Free Gambia'.
> > >
> > > Yai-Fatou Gaye.
> > >
> > >
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I agree that Mr. Sarr should be deciplin. Tombong has a right
to support whomever he wants to support,but that does not
warrant impersonating him negatively as Sarr did.I don't
know if Sarr did it to discredit the list or just being childish
as latjor rightly label him.
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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 12:25 PM
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Subject: TOMBONG (Joke?)
Gambia-L:
I'm not here to hold brief for Tombong and I often desist from
jumping into
personal issues. However, the political bickering and wrangling
aside it is
my opinion that such mail as the "joke" recently posted on
Tombong will
undermine our efforts to win our political debates.
Apparently, some people still tend to ignore Mr. Sarr's posting
that this
was a "joke", albeit a serious one. We can fight, but we can
still respect
eachother, I believe. As far as I know, Tombong is the only
person that
comes from the other side of the fence to express himself
regardless of the
fact that he is supporting a government that most of us would
like to hang
by the neck.
Let's not forget that even when the students were massacred some
APRC
supporters on this list saliently went mum, neither here nor
there. Tombong
at least dares show his true colors.
I know we're yearning for a uniform political base, in which
every Gambian
would live under an equitable and just political system. But as
long as the
sun rises and sets, as long as good and evil, right and wrong
exist, we'll
always have people who'd deviate from this ideal, for whatever
reason. It is
by accepting this deviation that we can build a fair and just
society, that
we can debate and finally say, "we've won, we've won!".
Hamadi.
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I refuse to believe any of the words Tombong was accused of. I have always
considered Mr. T
strong, intelligent and a potential leader. Therefore, I am not convinced
of any of the postings. It
should stop. It defeats all of our purposes and good intentions. What about
if he was cab driver?
At the least it was a job that helped paid for his education, his bills and
his survival living in the
United States like the majority of us. Brother, the value of knowledge is
entirely instrumental. It is
good to have it because it may save our lives or make our very existence
possible. We are all
affected by all this and the struggle continues. Humour yourself brother,
you do not have to lick
anybody's anything. In case you do, try a female. You do not have to beat
nobody, not even your
children. Not anymore.
Brother, you are in the position to make a difference in people's lives.
Use the great opportunity,
the most powerful medium to transmit positive messages and offer hope to
the people who are
hopeless. I believe you can use the medium to educate and unite all
Gambians. Use it wisely,and
we will rally around you.
The struggle continues!
Paul
Paul M. Ceesay
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Atlanta Journal Constitution
World in Brief
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Ethiopia must aim attacks at famine
http://www.sunspot.net/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?section=a
rchive&pagename=story&storyid=1150330209104
Amid violence, crop falls short in Zimbabwe
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I am surprised that the L-Community is not aware of how easy it is to send an email bearing another person's address. To be honest, if one is a little bit familiar with computers it is pretty simple to do and it is also very simple to find out where or who really sent the email.Two clicks of a button depending on the the kind of email viewer you are using. If any of you use Microsoft Outlook Express, Eudora, etc, It is even easier to find out the origination of the email regardless of whose name or email address you see on the from: line.
Folks,that is what this technology is about, no matter how secure you think you are online, do have a precaution at the back of your mind preparing for you the unexpected...... remember, we are a kind of virtual community and we assume we know who we all are , but do we really???????
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i am really sorry tombong for my previous posting, cause i thought about it
right after i hit the send button. i didn't think you would send something
like that. please accept my apologies.
mini
>From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
>Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 02:18:34 PDT
>
>This posting just manifests how shallow some members will go to try to
>discredit me and it is some thing new in the list and list managers should
>look in to this matter. Such clandestine activities should not be
>encouraged
>in this forum and allow low lives will support such an activity. This is a
>serious matter and Katim and the others MUST take action on this to
>maintain
>the credibility of this forum. I do not think it helps to allow people to
>impersonate others. The table could turn and a lot of members will not be
>happy.
>
>You are wasting your times, this just means I winning and getting on your
>nerves. If you cannot stand the heat get the hell out of the kitchen. I
>will
>always be a thorn on your sides.
>
>This from: >Gambiansonline ..Design With The Gambian People In Mind.
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>Katim and list managers, the ball is on your court to restore the
>credibility of this forum.
>
>
>PEACE
>
>TOMBONG
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>>From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
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>>Subject: Re: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
>>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:55:57 -0500
>>
>>I've said it before and I will say it again, Yahya Rules and as long he
>>does I will continue to lick his ass. Yes I beat the shit out of my wife
>>because she cheated on me and yes I was a cab driver, but guess what, am
>>now the Director of TV and RADIO now. Am not going to give my job away
>>even if it means hiding the truth from the people. So do I make myself
>>clear?
>>
>> PEACE
>> Tomboy
>>
>>These so called patriots or whatever they term themselves are day
>>dreaming.
>>Why didn't they over throw the Government when they were hear? Let them
>>come
>>and believe that we will just fold our hands and allow them to take over.
>>Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove Jammeh, come and participate
>>in the political process just like PDOIS and the others are doing
>>otherwise
>>keep your peace.
>>
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Oi! Tombong,
I just want in the first place to thank you for speaking your mind and to update the list during the unfortunate masacre of the young innocent students who were excersising their constitunal rights when they met their untimely deaths.Although most of the list members regarded you as a poppet to the government and calling you all kinds of name,i for one appreciated your efforts atleast to be part of this forum compared to a alot of other people in authority in the government who have never made any attempt to join the list for fear that they may loose their jobs!
However Tombong,i feel disgusted to read from you saying you will lick Yaya jammeh's ass just to keep your job if that is what it takes.This is a disgrace and a bitrayal to the gambian people in particular to the slayed kids and their families.You do not deserve to lead the Gambian people after what you have just said in your posting and i would advocate for your resignation with immediate effect!
How can u be so selfish as to the extent of hiding the truth from the Gambians just to keep your post as Director of TV?You do not have a slight faith in yourself, or do u fear that when you tell Jammeh the truth you will not be able to stage your weddings in London?I have witnessed your last wedding here in London and the lavish way the program was conducted surely will even make you to lick Yaya Jammeh's boot just to continue that kind of lifestlye you are in today? What a shame on you especially confessing that to this noble forum of concerned Gambian citizenary in the diaspora.
You need to go as well as your disappointing boss - Jamus Jammeh.
Good evening every1
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A friend of mine wanted me to send this to the Gambia-
L. It is only for members from Sweden and written in
Swedish. Thanks. /Monica
> Hello GL. This is only for Swedish members:
> Jag undrar om någon spelat in "Catch a fire" med Bob
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> från TV 1 19/4 och repris 21/4. Jag är mycket ledsen
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Mr George Sarr,
I don't think that you should get away with this by apologising. I thisnk=
this
is far more serious than that and I personally recommend that you be expe=
lled
from this list forthwith. List managers, thats my vote in advance!
regards,
Modou.
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> Those two messages from [log in to unmask], aaahmmmm, disregard it
> please. It wasn't him who sent it and my apologies to those who respond=
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and Tombong, the victim of a disgruntled citizen. It was an APRIL FOOL
> JOKE. Nothing really personal, in fact I don't know him well to care
> enough but as a man I must apologize and tell the truth. I guess one th=
ing
> both Tombong and myself should learn from this is that "it hurts when y=
ou've
been LIED to, doesn't it! ". Only the TRUTH shall set you free.
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Mr edi sidibeh,
I have read your posting carefuly, what I do understood there is simply. Are
you wishing a kind of gambia like the one we all are prevailing in. Brother
lets not argued for the sake of arguement.
when we said change for better ,not change for backwardness.every one is a
soldier in truth, are you not one of the soldiers.If colly , Jatta etc, are
former soldiers out side of the gambia , but they are perpetuating for true
democracy , why do you have to castigate them , even you already knew the
truth ?Ministerial potfollios are not the issue here . The issue is, true
democracy justice for all mankind, rich or poor.
Lets not be denouncers of truth , lets be in the sides of Gods messengers.
Muhammed (peace and blessing be unto him, Jessus, Mooses, This great
prophets are the deliveres of truths.
You have the right to support any political party in this world , but it
should´nt mean that your party is the party for all mankind, which every one
should follow.Brother let us stop dreaming , without democracy Gambia and
Africa can never develope.
We all wanna go home today or 2morrow to contribute to the development of
our country , but do we want to leave in such a situation as our
parents?Gambia belongs to all of us .Let´s join together and guide it to the
pavement.Their where generations before us and their will be a generation
after us.
their is nothing like opportunism when people are expressing true
democracy.Yes i think even your self want a better changes.
Brother, like the FINS said HASTA KUKKEA and face the reality.
Terve
buba
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>Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:53:43 +0300
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>Fellow member,
>I think some people in this forum will never understand power and it
>influence to a human kind, especially Power hungry Africans.Remember when
>Yaya came to power everyone was happy to see changes of government which
>was domination the entire political scenerio for three decates with less
>impact in the life of ordinery Gambians. There intention was as well not
>to retain power but since the effect was overwelming in the eye of the
>general public, they can't help but to retain in power and taste the
>holiness of recieveing fat salaries. If we remember this anymore, I think
>we should not cry for such kind of change to happen. Being a believer of
>islam, and having in mind that God is the creator and is He who knows what
>best, I will never encourage blood setting means to means to gain power.
>Especially if i will not suffer the consiquences since I am not living in
>the country. Gambia is so small and poor due to lack of natural resource
>but rich in culture youthfulness which in some point, can replace the lack
>of natural(if education and know-how policies are put in to it's right
>place) If means to topple the government is still military what kinds of
>gambians at heart we think we are since everyone knows how effective this
>kind of means can bring about? The soldiers contributing to this forum are
>not living in the gambia at the moment, but were the same soldiers who
>helped Yaya to power, since they were not given ministerial posts as
>expected, they turn against him. Yet is the same people who are wishing
>the military take over again. Do you think this people are serious or are
>they trying to full again and gain our support to over throw and stick to
>the holiness. How long was Wadda fighting to change the government? but
>never use forces to come to power but when God's time came no human can
>stop it happen. As our neighbour, and brother country, Senegal should be
>our role model. One without patient and tolerance is a danger to
>him/herself as well as the society at large.
>MAY GOD THE ALMIGHTY GRANT US WITH TOLERANCE AND PATIENCE TOWARDS OUR
>DESIRES OF GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. AMEN
>
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Folks,
Lets clean up our language and try to stay away from personal business/attacks.
Yes, its true that Tombong is very annoying at times with his postings but still
that did not warrant this attack from George Sarr. George's post was wrong and
should not be tolerated on the list under any circumstances. It is indeed good
that he did apologize to Tombong but this sort of behaviour is very irresponsible
and sickening. George does owe a big time aplogy to Tombong but I'm not sure
asking him to resign will do any good because he can subscribe under a different
name as we've seen on this list. Lots of people are subscribed under false names
and we the list managers, see this time and again from people trying to conceal
their identities.
My suggestion is to suspend George for couple of weeks since he was man enough to
admit his mistake and apologise but we should set a PRECEDENT that anymore of these
behaviors from list members is immediate grounds for expulsion. My reasoning
behind suspension and not expulsion is because we are at a time when we need to
unite all our efforts to fight our corrupt government and what better way can we do
that by uniting. This is a time of mourning so lets not waste precious time
fighting and debating about how to discipline George because it will only make us
loose focus on the fight to restore democracy to the motherland. Some have tried
distracting us on the list but haven't succeeded so lets not let it happen with
this unfortunate episode. Again George is WRONG but lets move on to finish this
difficult task we have back home. Lets not forget these brave kids that stood up to
the government. So lets put our energies to the situation that confronts us back
home. And please lets me more careful on what we post to the list.
sarian
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> From: tester testers <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: CREDIBILITY OF THE LIST - TOMBONG SAIDY!!!!!!!!!!!
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Tombong!
>
> I'm not gonna waste my time deciphering your garbage.
> Whether this is your posting or not I don't give a
> funk! From most of your reports and postings on this
> board, you are what the postings depict of you. It is
> apparent when one looks at your picture and see
> nothing but a demon, a dumb one for that matter.
>
> It is okay to be a cab driver and then a director of
> communications, so long as you have the credentials to
> back it. In your case monsieur, I guess your info
> library is limited to the rural routes of D.C. and
> Maryland. Fight the bottle brother! Fight the
> bottle!
>
> While wondering about your doomsday and that of your
> leader, I will resort to my solemn prayers for "ALL
> Gambians".
>
> Regards!
>
> Essa
>
> --- TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > This posting just manifests how shallow some members
> > will go to try
> > to discredit me and it is some thing new in the list
> > and list managers
> > should look in to this matter. Such clandestine
> > activities should not be
> > encouraged in this forum and allow low lives will
> > support such an activity.
> > This is a serious matter and Katim and the others
> > MUST take action on this
> > to maintain the credibility of this forum. I do not
> > think it helps to allow
> > people to impersonate others. The table could turn
> > and a lot of members will
> > not be happy.
> >
> > You are wasting your times, this just means I an
> > winning and getting on
> > your nerves. If you cannot stand the heat get the
> > hell out of the
> > kitchen. I will always be a thorn on your sides.
> >
> > This from: >Gambiansonline ..Design With The Gambian
> > People In Mind.
> > >>To join our Mailling List goto
> > http://www.gambiansonline.com
> > >>Don't forget to join our Chatrooms.
> >
> > Katim and list managers, the ball is on your court
> > to restore the
> > credibility of this forum.
> >
> >
> > PEACE
> >
> > TOMBONG
> >
> >
> > >>From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > list
> > >><[log in to unmask]>
> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
> > >>Subject: Re: SOLDIERS OF THE GAMBIA ARMY
> > >>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:55:57 -0500
> > >>
> > >>I've said it before and I will say it again, Yahya
> > Rules and as long he
> > >>does I will continue to lick his ass. Yes I beat
> > the shit out of my wife
> > >>because she cheated on me and yes I was a cab
> > driver, but guess what, am
> > >>now the Director of TV and RADIO now. Am not going
> > to give my job away
> > >>even if it means hiding the truth from the people.
> > So do I make myself
> > >>clear?
> > >>
> > >>
> > PEACE
> > >>
> > Tomboy
> > >>
> > >>These so called patriots or whatever they term
> > themselves are day
> > >>dreaming.
> > >>Why didn't they over throw the Government when
> > they were hear? Let them
> > >>come
> > >>and believe that we will just fold our hands and
> > allow them to take over.
> > >>Keep dreaming brothers. If you want to remove
> > Jammeh, come and participate
> > >>in the political process just like PDOIS and the
> > others are doing
> > >>otherwise
> > >>keep your peace.
> > >>
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Hi friends,
like Arona I said the same when I saw the postings, except that I didn=B4t
laugh. I felt immediately that it was certainly not Mr. Tombong Saidy. He
would never use such a language. I made a posting on my observation asking
if someone really thought we were all fools. But I never posted my letter
because I got visitors. I=B4m sorry that any one can find it funny to do such
a thing. It take our focus away from the issues we are dealing with. And i=
t
shows me that the person who did so is not worthy to be respected at all.
Shame on you. I have no respect for you, your standard, moral or anything
you stand for. Of all I have been witness to on my two years on Gambia-L
this is the worst, and there is no excuse for it.
My opinion
Asbj=F8rn Nordam
on 27/04/00 22:55, Arona John at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Folks,
> Knowing Tombong's stye of writing I just laugh and disregard the
> posting.The language used in that posting are foreign in Tombong's mind.I=
t
> is quite unfortunate that people jokes at all times without calculating i=
ts
> effects.This is a forum for the competition of postive ideas.Hope this wi=
ll
> be avoided in future.
>=20
> ARONA
>=20
>=20
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Friends,
the path to justice and win a case in court is long, and those to blame can
be very difficult to "catch".
I got tears in my eyes when I read the short reports from Foroyaa of the
coroner=B4s inquest, and the family members short notice on facts. I could
imagine how it would be like if some of my friends stood there and asked
those simple questions, which give no room to express how you feel deep
inside.
But beside the X-rays had not a proper quality, what will be the next when
it comes to establish the facts. How is it handled in The Gambia ?
Is there a "neutral" police-investigation-team, who can collect all needed
to bring justice to court and public ? Who has taken photos of where the
eventual bullets are found and collected from the ground, in the
surroundings, so that the exact identification can be made on which bullet
came from which weapon, in hands of who. Where was the person located, and
who was the exact person who fired the shoot that caused the death. Is ther=
e
lab facilities in The Gambia where you can identify these things. Where are
all the "evidences" held so no one can manipulate or touch them ? Or are
evidences just been destroyed ? Are there taken steps to a "neutral"
investigation can take place.
When you have identified who had which weapon in his hand, you also has to
identify that he fired the exact bullet which caused the death.
I=B4m asking simply because some of the news brought to us on Gambia-L just
after the incident said, that "official sources" clamed that weapons fired
was in hands of some people in the crowd etc.
So are the weapons collected, identified and secured a safe place ?
How is the normal standard procedure in The Gambia in criminal cases ?
Is there no standard , is that why we have not got any answers to other
deaths in the state, and a lot of "rumours" ?
After identified the exact weapons and numbers of bullets, you can go back
to a chain-reaction and ask who fired, was there given signal, who ordered,
who said what and how was it interpreted by the person who fired. Felt he
himself threatened. How was the orders given and are there special routines
or regulations to follow, when the police or military are send in actions
like the one in front of GTTI. And was the action after the rules, or did
someone at place take his own command ?
We have now a student who witness how he saw and understand the situation
(an officer talking on telephone and shortly after he saw the soldiers
attack the students. Who did he call, what was the question and answer and
was was the orders given ?)
We hear there are soldiers who are now ashamed of being a part of the
action, or even a military person. But are they ready to stand up in court
and declare that "I fired my weapon directly into the crowd, ..... because
of fear ? orders given ? ..." from whom and how was it given exactly.
When it comes to held someone responsible, will it be a military law-court,
held behind the barrack-walls (like the one against Colonel Ann), or will
it be a public one ? I=B4m sure that the law-suits against those who attacked
the public and private buildings will be held in public. But what if the
incident of killings involve military ?
Can anyone from The Gambia tells me how is evidences from the incident take=
n
care of ? What have been done to secure the facts and evidences ?
And I hope that the students now released will be given a public excuse and
be compensated the unlawful detain, and torture. (Why should soldiers beat
and kick the students all over their bodies. What turns some men in
uniforms to become inhuman sadists ?)
I could continue like this, but as one of my Gambian friends are telling me
- "Asbj=F8rn this is Gambia not Denmark", - which means that I can not expect
things to run normal, to the highest standard. (Which we even cannot obtain
here, when it comes to police-brutality)
But I will not accept anything but the best effort in a case like this.
This is exactly the time to say that we ask the highest standard, all
questions to be asked and answered, the right ones be prosecuted, the
justice to be done, no matter we like the answers to it or not.
It=B4s the constitutional rights of the citizen, it=B4s a way of drawing a line
in the sand, specially when it comes to discuss what is military tasks in
the country ? Why was it not a police-task to ensure a demonstration went o=
n
as planned. Why should military come out of the barracks because of a
student demonstration ?
It=B4s human right principles, it=B4s moral and dignity of a young nation on
trial here. It=B4s a chance for the authorities to put up a new standard, the
highest, which can serve as guideline for the future.
But most of all it=B4s for the respect of the persons who gave their lives,
and their families who will have to live with the lose of a dear son or
father.=20
Asbj=F8rn Nordam
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It is with the utmost dismay that I and others have seen our beloved Gambia-L dominated by a barrage of insults, allegations and counter allegations. My concern is that we are getting side tracked from what really matters, the brutal regime's killing of unarmed infants.
A long time ago our colonizers, the British particularly, had a policy called divide and conquer. The goal of this policy was to make our forefathers weaker by dividing us into tribes and class groups. If one looks at the make up of Africa today, that policy is apparent. Even Yahya Jammeh has used the tribalist and class card in his numerous misguided sermons on Gambian TV. For example, he labelled the hard working residents of Fajara as thieves. Tombong, Malafy and the numerous sympathisers of this regime are attempting to use the same ploy and have succeeded in temporarily detracting us from our main goals: Voicing our dissatisfaction about the regime and the slow arduous task of removing this government from the seat of power.
Even though most of us have our firm disagreements with Tombong and Co, we have to be ready to deal with these people objectively. We cannot afford to hurl insults at them from the relative safety of our computer rooms, nor can we use smear tactics against any of them. After all, what purpose does demaning any human being serve? It is a zero sum game that no one wins. The end result is that feelings get hurt and things that really don't matter become part of the big picture.
It is my genuine hope that we will forget this regrettable period and continue our task of addressing ways of avoiding the quagmire that our country is embroiled in. Let us all focus and beat the colloborators at their own game. By using our brains.
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Subject: Sv: OBITUARY
Innaa lillaahi wa inna ilayhi raaji`oon
Allaahumma ajurnaa fi museebatinaa wakhluf lanaa khayran minhaa.
To Allah we belong and to him is our ultimate return.
We ask for recompense us for our affliction and replace it for us with
something better.
Uncle Mam Mbye Jagne is Uncle to my mother,
he was a good Muslim and very pious one.
All what Tejan said about him is true.
My sincere condonlence to the wife Ya Absa and all the family.
May his soul rest in perfect peace.
May Allah Shower him with His Mercy and grant him forgiveness.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
(Pulo)
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 1:22 AM
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> THE Jagne family of Tally 8, Forster family etc. regret to announce
> the death of Uncle Mam Mbye Jagne. Uncle Mam Mbye was the pioneer of the
> tanka tanka many years back. He was a hard working man with clear
> foresight in business venturs.Our condolences to the Lala .Dodou and
> the entire Jagne family. May his soul rest in Perfect peace.
> Chi Jamma,
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Subject: Re: Impersonation of Tombong " Makaveli Must Go!"
Ok, so I guesss some of you jumped to conclusion that I am a menace to
Gambia-L. Well, I did send my apology and my motive for such act and I
stood corrected. However distasteful the joke might be, I did not commit
a gruesome massacre nor am I affiliated with such regime. So if you think
I committed a crime and should be expelled, that's your naive opinion, but
we all know what the real crime is. What's even more ironic is the
hypocrisy exposed by those who can't stand my guts. Just look at the way
some of you reacted, typical dictatorial ruling. For the record, I don't
have to kiss a** to stay on this mailing list, wrong is wrong and if my
apology is not good enough for some you, then deal with it. For those who
are concerned about their privacy, atleast we can learn from this that
privacy is only what you think it is. We are all held responsible to
working together to find a closure to this senseless massacre irregardless
of our petty disagreements. Remember some of us are trying to deviate from
the real issue here. We all know anyone can join this list any given time.
I rather not have to hide my identity.
I stand corrected,
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Katim,
Let's hear from you about this one. Oh! no surprise, because we all know that it is perfectly OK for profanity, impersonation, and pernicious language to prevail on Gambia-l as long as it is directed toward the pro government supporters. This again confirms my long standing belief that this forum is a typical example of a democratic domain 'African Style'. On one hand, members continually rant about the lack of democracy and the rule of law in Gambia and on the other hand choose to be oblivious on exercising the rule of law on this forum. Some members even went as far as calling for the removal of Tombong and I because 'our commentaries are a nuisance to the spirit of Gambia-l'. Let's keep Gambia-l as a forum where we can agree to disagree. That my friends, is a key ingredient of democracy, Oh, I forgot, African Style democracy is devoid of the key concept of its meaning.
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3) Give only one warning before someone is delisted.
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Gambia-l:
I agree with Malanding's contention that Makavelli's postings were distasteful to say the least. It is a disservice to the List to impersonate Tombong or any other person for that matter, especially given the content and context of the postings. A simple apology is not enough. I am also in favor of Makavelli's resignation or removal from the List.
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Why don't you guys cut this crap out, was it not Uncle Tom Boy that started
this nonsense by calling me UN-Gambian? Is it not possible that, whoever is
doing the impersonation could also be Tombong trying to hoodwink and
sidetracked us a second time around? We should forgive and forget only, when
he stops defending Yahya Jammeh and the murderers on the loose. If you check
my posting last night, I mentioned that, even though the guy is a teetotaler
[not a drunkard], he is loosing his mind on his myopic and staunch defense of
these mercenaries [paid killers].Let's get focused on removing Yahya from our
midst, by any means necessary, even through the electoral process, as UNCLE
TOM BOY SAIDY would like me to confess.
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you can download the information you need from the postings of 4/24/00 Re:
gambians in new york, fliers, petitions and demonstration at UN on May 2.
2000. If not try the gamraleigh site: www.gamraleigh.com
Hope to see you and your families at the Gambia Mission next tuesday
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From: Samba Goddard <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Sv: FW: The Religion We Need
The religion We Need we got it 14 centuries ago.
Allah had Mention it in the Holy Qur`an: "I chosed Islam for you as your
religion".
All the prophets that came before the last Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) came to
delivered the message of Islam.
The Qur`an has all the answers to solve all our problems in this world and
the hereafter.
Is a pity most of mankind did not understand the message of the Holy Qur`an,
that`s why people are more confuse about Islam.
We all know that the religion of Allah is only One, and that is Islam
notting else but Islam.
Let us read the Qur`an then we will find the answer to our todays problems.
This Stan Chu llo is a big joker. We got the religion we need long time ago.
I think (a) is missing from his name between the
S & T. to make it (Satan Chu llo).
There will be no one who will come with new religion.
Dont be afraid, dont be ashame, come let us read the Qur`an to know the
meaning of our existing.
O Allah! Confer Your grace on us through the Magnificent Qur`an; make it for
us a Book of instruction and evidence,light, guidance and mercy;
Grant us the honour of reciting it day and night and make it an argument and
proof for us, O Lord and Sustainer of all the worlds, through the gracious
instrumentality of Muhammad, Your Prophet,-
May Allah shower blessings and peace on him.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
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> The Religion We Need
> This Day (Lagos)
> April 26, 2000
>
> By Stan Chu Ilo
>
> Lagos - Three significant religious events took place within the past
> few weeks in some parts of the world, which provide the basis for this
> reflection, as they draw the lines of the authentic religious beliefs
> and practices demanded in our complex world today.
>
> The first event was Pope John Paul 11's pilgrimage to the Middle East
> as a prophet of a new humanity and an apostle of peace; building
> bridges of friendship between Israel and the entire Arab world, and
> amplifying in a concrete way the close affinity between the three
> prophetic religions of Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
>
> The second event took place in the obscure corners of Kanungu in
> Uganda, where over 320 Ugandans, members of the Movement for the
> Restoration of the Ten Commandments, perished in the hellish inferno
> they set against themselves to quicken their ascent into Heaven.
> Reports have it that their leader, Joseph Kibweteere had taught his
> adherents that the world was coming to an end this year, and encouraged
> them to sell their property and enter into the new ark of Noah (his
> Church), which will protect them, and carry them to heaven, in the
> event of the imminent calamitous end of the world. Whether these
> hapless adherents were under a spell or hypnosis or a mass hysteria is
> yet to be proved by a distraught Ugandan Police Force.
>
> The third event was the amputation in Zamfara State of one Bello
> Jangedi for stealing a cow. The question that immediately comes to mind
> is what is a common thread that runs through these three religiously
> motivated events. It is obvious that there is no point of convergence.
> The fact that man is a religious animal, and that his ontology and
> psychology cannot be fully explained and appreciated in isolation of
> his religion, makes it difficult for one to give a common meaning and
> explanation to the diverse and often strange religious practices among
> people.
>
> It must be admitted, that one of the reasons for religion is that man
> finds himself in a helpless situation. Thrown into a world whose origin
> and ultimate destiny he does not know; frightened by the prospect of
> death and annihilation, man binds himself to God in religious acts,
> rites, beliefs and practices. Man is thus oriented to God through
> religion, not only because he is a spiritual being, but because in God
> he finds fullness of life, the source of his being and the sustenance
> of his life.
>
> This search for God has become a passion for some, a puzzle for
> others,but a necessary adventure for all. At times this search has led
> to untoward acts verging on violence, fanaticism, fetishism and even
> satanism. The history of the 20th century cannot be complete without
> mentioning the various religious aberrations that have some times
> legitimated violence and war, divisions and unwholesome inhuman
> practices. Some examples immediately come to mind: Christian Science, a
> Christian movement, founded by Mary Baker Eddy, late in the 19th
> century rejected chiropractic treatment, vitamins, nutrition, drugs as
> well as immunisations for its worshippers. This is because, they
> believe that what our five senses tell us about pain and suffering are
> false and mortal beliefs - the spate of deaths that followed this
> unscriptural practice led to the demise of this movement.
>
> Charles Manson who founded the Process Church in America had preached
> that Christ and devil are no longer enemies. Thus by killing for satan,
> his followers would be doing a noble mission for Christ. He therefore
> launched a bloody war in 1969 against the Caucasians in America. How
> xenophobia can help bring about the growth of God's kingdom remains a
> puzzle that Manson is yet to solve. In November 1978, the eccentric,
> Rev. Jim Jones, who led a strange Christian movement, moved his
> followers to drink cyanide on a mountain in Jonestown, Guyana. That
> mass suicide which destroyed over 900 souls represents the highest
> number of religion - inspired mass death in recent times.
>
> The Black Muslim group,started in America in 1913 by Timothy Drend (who
> changed his name later to Noble Drend Ali),and promoted in the 60's by
> Malcolm X, encouraged racial hatred through what it called 'social
> separation' This was an euphemism for violence against Whites. Indeed
> the 'black muslims preached that the whiteman's day of destruction was
> coming, and that there would be no hell for blacks, since their
> sufferings through slavery, colonialism and racism were hell enough.
>
> The moslem Shiites have also proved to be an avant - garde zealous
> group in the promotion of Islam; a zeal that has resulted in deaths
> even against their fellow moslems. In Kashmir, once a year, young
> Shiahs parade through the streets of Srinagar, scourging their bodies
> with knives and chains. This self- mutilation ritual laments the
> martyrdom of Hussain, Ali's son and Prophet Muhammed's (PBWH) grandson,
> who was massacred in an attempt to restore the seat of Islam to Medina.
> All these acts by various religions are aimed at pleasing God winning
> his favours and dwelling with him forever after death. However, there
> seems to be a somewhat tenuous link in all these that cut across all
> these religious acts: the search for God. But can one really find God
> without loving his fellow men and women?
>
> The measure of the true value of any religion is to what extent it
> promotes the peace and happiness of humankind. Religious practices are
> considered good if they enhance the quality of life of people, promote
> sound morality in society and project the ideal of love. Sometimes,
> some of our religious acts do not approximate to these ideals. Indeed,
> the religion that we need in the new millennium is a religion that
> promotes a culture of life, and an attitude of compassion to everybody,
> especially the neediest, who are placed at the very margin of the good
> things of life.
>
> Such a religion must sustain all men and women in a network of love and
> must cast our traumatized world in a rich mosaic of peace, justice,
> brotherhood, solidarity, mutual acceptance, equality and freedom. These
> values can unite humanity in future because they are incarnated in all
> religions, but are sadly distorted by their adherents. We are plunging
> into anguish and fear, violence and hatred, desperation and selfishness
> in our country because we have not allowed these values to crystallise
> in our national structures.
>
> Many people of diverse religious persuasions - Mahatma Gandhi (Hindu),
> Mother Teresa (Christian) and Anwar Sadat (moslem) had realised these
> values in their lives and helped change our world. The greatest
> challenge facing Nigerians today is to purge themselves of their
> untoward and self-serving religious hypocrisy, which sometimes leak
> through the veneer of religiosity to expose the farce of a facile
> civility and the face of a false tribal chauvinism.
>
> It is these values of peace, reconciliation, justice, fraternity and
> love that Pope John Paul II promoted in the Middle East. How the
> amputation of Bello Jangedi's arm in Zamfara State, and the mass
> suicide in Uganda can project and promote these values, remain a puzzle
> to many discerning minds.
>
> Rev. Fr. Ilo is of the Catholic Secretariat, Lagos
>
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:35:56 -0400
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Mr. Jammeh:
I hope you now know that Tombong DID NOT write the pieces in question.
Amadou Scattred Janneh
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:52:27 -0400
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Subject: Staying Focused: A Recommendation
Gambia-l:
I am suggesting that we focus on building coalitions in the struggle against the repressive regime in the Gambia while Gambia-l Managers devise recommendations relating to the impersonation of Tombong.
We should not waste too much of our resources and energies going back and forth on the matter (especially now). The struggle must continue!
Amadou Scattred Janneh
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:45:06 -0700
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Dr. Amadou S. Janneh wrote:
> Gambia-l:
> I am suggesting that we focus on building coalitions in the struggle against the repressive regime in the Gambia while Gambia-l Managers devise recommendations relating to the impersonation of Tombong.
>
> We should not waste too much of our resources and energies going back and forth on the matter (especially now). The struggle must continue!
>
> Amadou Scattred Janneh
Howdy,
Very well put Mr. Janneh. Except that while the rest of us move on to
other matters of urgency, Tombong might consider his legal options (if
there is any) for defamation. I am not a legal scholar but given the
circumstances, I consider this a gross violation. Sometimes it is just
right to teach some people the meaning of decency, value and
principle the hard way.
Dawda Singhateh
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 03:26:00 +0200
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Subject: "Our problems and their solution"
Asalaamu alaikum G-L
Alhamdullilah,(praise due to Allah, He alone)
There is no power and might except by Allah!
The responsibilities of nation:-
Before placing the problems we should deliberate on our obligations as a
patriot because patriotism is also a part of our religion. It is evident
that in the countries of the world people have formed a nation within the
geographical limit of a territory, and fixed the national
obligation for the inhabitants of such areas. Somewhere the country is ruled
on democratic system of Government, in which the elected Parliament through
its President is made responsible for the administration of the country.
Whereas in a socialist society only that party which seizes authority
legally or illegally becomes rulling power, and the country is administered
only by a Junta holding absolute power.
The people are forbidden to discuss about politics, and their obligation is
only to obey and serve. In case of any dissent serious Punishments are
awarded.
Opposed to these, the Islamic Society is quite a different system of
administration, according to Islamic laws the entire nation, and every
individual of the nation is responsible and accountable in the matter of
state. The Holy Qur`an has explained this clearly that the God Almighty has
made the Muslims one nation(community) so that they may live on a level of
moderation, and the Apostle of God may stand witness to this (may testify
this). There are many verses in which God Almighty has drawn the attention
of Muslim nation towards well being and virtues.
The Holy Prophet (p.b.u.m) by his Precepts has made every person responsible
for his action to God. Thus it conveys clearly that every one should fulfil
the rights of those who are under his patronage, and for this he is
accountable to Allah and the Holy Prophet(p.b.u.h).
When in ascending order, this responsibilty evolves upon a ruler, he becomes
accountable for the welfare of the entire nation, and in this way the entire
nation by stages and grade is made responsible to discharge his obligations,
both individual and collective. Within the bounds of his power and
jurisdiction every body shall be answerable to God Almighty.
"O Allah, You are the source of peace and from You comes peace, exalted You
are, O Lord of Majesty and Honour".
"O Our Lord, grant us good in this world and good in the hereafter and save
us from the punishment of Hell-fire.
"O Allah, forgive us and our parents and our teachers and all the believing
men and women and all Muslim-men and women with your Mercy. O Most Merciful
of all who have mercy."
"Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves and if You do not forgive us and have
mercy on us, surely we will be of the loser."
May Allah The Almighty guide us from Satan the evil and lead us to the
straight part.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
(Pulo)
Don`t be afraid, don`t be ashame, come let us called upon Allah`s name. Let
us praise Him more and more,
because He make our lives secure.
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Subject: Some important sayings
> Assalaamu alaikum G-L,
> Alhamdullilah,(praise be to Allah,Lord of the Worlds)
> There is no power and might except by Allah
>
> Some important sayings of `Ali (RA)
> I think we will benefit from it,and may the Almighty Allah! make it
possible
> for us.
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> "I am the youngest of you. I may be a boy, my feet may not be strong
enough,
> but O messenger of Allah,
> I shall be your helper. Whoever opposes you, I shall fight him as a mortal
> enemy."
> These were the words of `Ali, the cousin of the Prophet Muhammad (may the
> peace and blessings of Allah be on him), and then a boy of only ten. He
> spoke these words before the elders of Quraish during the dinner hosted by
> the Prophet (PBUH) to invite them to Islam.
>
> 1. One who knows himself, knows his creator.
> 2. If you love Allah, tear out your hearts love of the world.
> 3. The fear of Allah makes one secure.
> 4. How can you rejoice about life that grows shorter each hour?
> 5. World-wide reputation can be undone by an hour`s degradation.
> 6. Three defects make life miserable:
> 1, Vindictiveness 2, Jealousy 3, A bad character.
> 7. One who is proud of worldly possessions of this fleeting existence, is
> ignorant.
> 8. Joy is followed by tears.
> 9. Each breath of a man is a step near to death.
> 10. The best man is he who is most helpful to his fellow-men.
> 11. One who thinks himself the best is the worst.
> 12. The hated person is one who returns evil for good.
> 13. Virtue is the key to success.
> 14 Learned men live even after death, ignorant men are dead although
alive.
> 15. There is no treasure like knowledge.
> 16. Knowledge is wisdom and the educated man is the wise man.
> 17. Experience is knowledge gained.
> 18. Who never corrects himself will never correct another.
> 19. Listen, and you will teach yourself: remain silent, and you risk
> nothing.
> 20. One who reflects on Allah`s gifts, succeeds.
> 21. Ignorance harms a man more than a cancer in the body.
> 22. One of the signs of a stupid man is the frequent change of opinion.
> 23. Never speak when it is not the time for speech.
> 24. Beware of back-biting: it sows the seeds of bitterness, and separates
> you from Allah and man.
> 25. The best truth is the keeping of promises.
> 26. Better be dumb than lie.
> 27. Do not flatter, it is no sign of faith.
> 28. A hypocrite`s tongue is clean, but there is sickness in his heart.
> 29. Better to be alone than with bad company.
> 30. Whoever sows good reaps his reward.
>
> These sayings was `Ali`s the causin of the Prophet Muhammad (Sallalahu
> alayhi wassalaam)
> (may the blessing of Allah be with them)
>
> May Allah, guide us to the Straight part and grant us
> knowledge......Ameen!!!!!
>
> Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
>
> Samba Goddard
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Folks,
Mr. Makaveli's posting is a very shameful and unethical act.But one
thing that is unique with his postings is that he signs at the extreme right
while the real Tombong signs at the extreme left.That is:
(For real Tombong) (And for Mr. Makaveli)
PEACE PEACE
Tombong "Tombong"
OR Mr. Makeveli,when he
owns his fingers
Hence Mr. Makaveli can not trade his impersonified posting here.Well,it
was good to learn that he had apologized to the real TOMBONG SAIDY.May ALLAH
guides in the rigth path.AMEN!
ARONA
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>Folks,
>I do not know how Mr. Makaveli can call these messages "an APRIL
>FOOL JOKE" and "Nothing really personal". It is very cruel and distasteful
>to send this kind of remarks and sign as Tombong.
>
>This kind of behavior is the greatest threat to the future of Gambia-L. As
>such I will ask the Management to ask Mr. Makaveli to unsubscribe himself
>from Gambia-l or be removed!
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>Malanding Jaiteh
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>Subject: APRIL FOOL : SORRY TOMBONG, my bad!
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> > Hello folks,
> > Those two messages from [log in to unmask], aaahmmmm, disregard it
> > please. It wasn't him who sent it and my apologies to those who
>responded
>and Tombong, the victim of a disgruntled citizen. It was an APRIL FOOL
> > JOKE. Nothing really personal, in fact I don't know him well to care
> > enough but as a man I must apologize and tell the truth. I guess one
>thing
> > both Tombong and myself should learn from this is that "it hurts when
>you've been LIED to, doesn't it! ". Only the TRUTH shall set you free.
> >
> > PEACE
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Mr.Sidibeh
Thank you very much for enlightening us with respect,where to put our
donations
for the families of the 10th april massacre.
The prophet Muhammad,peace be upon him,said,
"Every bone of men`s fingers and toes must give
" sadaqa" every day the sun rises.If one gives
justice
between two men,it is "sadaqa";if one helps a
man
with his animal,loading or lifting his goods
on it,it is
"sadaqa";a good word is"sadaqa";every step
one
takes towards a prayer is "sadaqa";if anyone
removes
anything injurious from the road,it is
"sadaqa"
So please,let us not make the mistake that,Zakat is only given when
somebody dies.
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:04:20 EDT
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Tombong,
I have been busy all day and just got online this evening. However, I have
been thinking all day about the fact that I definitely owed you an apology
for the comments I made in response to the posting by George Sarr . Please
accept my apologies. I made the comments because I actually believed that you
wrote that post.
Jabou Joh
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:21:22 EDT
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I agree that the post by George was in very poor taste, especially because of
it's very personal nature.I, like others on this list have my views of
Tombong and the rest of the Jammeh camp, but things of this nature are
definitely not to be imposed on anyone, no matter how much we disagree with
their views, principles etc. It is very unfortunate that this transpired, and
it is especially so because some of us, including myself actually believed
that Tombong had sent the post, prompting us to make comments on it.
Jabou Joh
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Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:04:46 -0400
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Subject: Re: Impersonation of Tombong/my apologies
Tombong Saidy,
My apologies for the comments i made in my earlier posting and i hope you will understand and forgive.I reacted to the posting simply because i think you as the director of broadcasting should not say such a thing especially during this difficult time in the history of our country.I do not have any grudges against like i said your contributions to the list were immense and i thank you for that.
On the other hand,George Sarr, why do u have to do such a thing?????????? this is unacceptable and i hope you have realised the big mistake and i do hope and wish that such a thing does not happen again.
God bless all!
Lamin B Jammeh,UK
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Beran jeng
Voice mail reads
"Gambia list this is a test"
Mr. Jeng, Do you need any special microphone /
can you use it for your regular telephone?
Thanks
Habib
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Beran jeng
<br>Voice mail reads
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<br>Mr. Jeng, Do you need any special microphone /
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<br>Thanks
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Hi folks,
I'm writing to express my deep disappointment with George Sarr for =
sending in a posting that purportedly was from Tombong Saidy. I am =
especially disappointed and saddened by the whole episode for a variety =
of reasons: a) it was un-called for; b) it is unethical and =
distracting; c) it came from I guy that I think should have known =
better. Already, a number of subscribers have written to express their =
outrage, and rightly so. The practice of spoofing (as computer geeks =
call it) has no place on Gambia-L, and will not be tolerated.
After reviewing diverse reactions to Mr. Sarr's postings, I called him =
on the phone to discuss the issue with him. I told him that I was =
disappointed that he would indulge in such a practice, and was =
especially saddened given that I was really looking forward to working =
with him on setting up the Free Gambia Web site. He offered his =
apologies, and expressed his remorse, as he has done on the list. I told =
him that in view of the gravity of what he has done, along with the fact =
that his act threatened the credibility and health of the dialog and =
debate on the list, I have decided to side with Dr. Amadou Janneh, and =
Momodou Camara (two of the Managers of the list) and terminate his =
subscription to Gambia-L. I also told him that Sarian Loum (another =
Gambia-L Manager) had asked that he should not be expelled, but =
suspended for a "couple of weeks" from the list. I told him the other =
remaining Manager to be heard from is Mr. Tony Loum, whom I haven't =
heard from for months, since he moved from Seattle, Washington.
In the circumstances, I would like to announce that I will immediately =
be unsubscribing Mr. Sarr from Gambia-L. I have explained to Mr. Sarr =
that the decision is personally very painful for me, but at the same =
time, one that must be taken in the best interest of Gambia-L, and =
indeed, The Gambia. It's not a question of our personal relationships, =
or whether or not it is the right or wrong decision. As I explained to =
Mr. Sarr, who knows, maybe time would prove me wrong. But at the end of =
the day, I want to make it clear to all that the decision to formally =
terminate Mr. Sarr's subscription to Gambia-L was a considered one, done =
in good faith, and in the hope that it is what's best for the list.
Already, comparisons have been made between Mr. Sarr, and Matarr Njie. =
I also explained the issues to Mr. Sarr. Briefly, I told him that there =
are two major issues to consider when comparing his case to Mr. Njie's. =
First, they both impersonated people in sending e-mail to the list. =
However, I explained to Mr. Sarr, Matarr Njie's offense in this regard =
is far more tolerable because he (Matarr) assumed a fictitious name =
(Burama Manjang) rather than assuming someone else's identity like he =
(Mr. Sarr) did.
The other issue worth considering in comparing Mr. Sarr's case to Mr. =
Njie's is that Mr. Sarr, to his credit, admitted to what he did, and =
apologized for it. In contrast, Mr. Njie decided to not only deny ever =
impersonating anyone, but also engaged in a vicious campaign of hurling =
insults at people, on and off the list. To make matters worse, he =
insulted peoples parents, even when they had nothing to do with what he =
was complaining about. For example, I have been the recipient of his =
insults by e-mail whenever someone says something he doesn't like on =
Gambia-L, whether or not I said a word on the issue. These insults have =
been going on since we took him off Gambia-L, and although they have =
died down once in a while, there's no telling when he's going to fire =
off his next volley. The last came just a few days ago, May 21, to be =
exact.
In light of the above facts, I think there is no point in keeping Mr. =
Sarr on the list, and re-instating Mr. Njie's subscription, as Malafy =
Jarju suggests. In my mind, such an action will amount to race to the =
bottom of our moral ladder. As far as I'm concerned, the debate (or =
shouting match sometimes) we are in is one about morality and ethics. =
There is absolutely no point in cutting corners here and there just =
because it would be the most comfortable thing to do. As tough as the =
decision to end Mr. Sarr's subscription is for me, both personally, and =
because of the inherent risk in alienating some, it simply had to be =
taken and gotten over with because we have make sure that the atmosphere =
of dialog and debate is not poisoned by deceit, and unethical behavior.
I should also mention that I told Mr. Sarr that as far as I am concerned =
the only circumstance under which I will consider his re-admission to =
Gambia-L is if and when I receive an e-mail from Tombong Saidy (who was =
impersonated) asking that he has forgiven Mr. Sarr, and that we should =
consider re-subscribing him. Mr. Sarr told me that such a decision was =
unfortunate, because it will mean that once again, Tombong has won. I =
would add that it is in fact The Gambia that has won, and even if it is =
Tombong that has won, I would say that if only Mr. Sarr had not started =
the war, there would not have been anything to win. Not even for =
Tombong.
On that note, I would like to encourage all of us to move forward and =
leave this behind. The incident was unfortunate, and I'm sure we're all =
mature enough to have learned well from it. Like I heard someone say or =
I read somewhere, the important thing is that we are making new =
mistakes, meaning that we are learning. After all, that's what it's all =
about.
I think this e-mail also offers an opportunity to comment on two other =
issues. First, Seedy Saidy Khan asked in an e-mail of a few days ago, =
whether I was going to ban obituaries on Gambia-L! Just like I objected =
to religious postings. I would like to assure Mr. Saidy Khan that I =
certainly do not have such intentions, although I'll be honest with you =
to say that all those condolence messages that I think should have been =
sent privately, but end up on the list, make me worry about how much =
bandwidth and disk-space we are consuming! I know, you might be saying =
what a bean counter! But you know, somebody has to worry about these =
things. On the other hand, I also feel that these public condolence =
messages also paint a true picture of a very caring and loving people, =
and for this reason, help set the record of our debates straight: that =
even though we might be on each other's throats once in a while, at the =
end of the day, we all are of one nation.
The next issue relates to a posting from Kebba Dampha (by the way, there =
used to be a kind of sweet [candy] or "Tangal" in Wollof called "Kebba =
Dampha") saying:
" ...you tried to make a distinction between the use of force and the =
treat of force in Yaya's overthrow of Jawara. I think that was just =
semantics. The truth of the matter is, Yaya used unconstitutional means =
to overthrow a democratically elected government at a time when Gambians =
had a better opportunity to get rid of the government through a free and =
fair election."
Well, Mr. Dampha, I did not intend to play any game of semantics there. =
The fact of the matter is that Jawara was overthrown not by force, but =
by the threat of it's use. Remember, the military rulers always prided =
themselves in pulling off a bloodless coup. And may I also add that =
before you get the impression that I was at any one time a supporter of =
the coup against Jawara, those who were on Gambia-L back then would =
recall my saying that the coup was nothing but lawlessness, and that we =
had replaced Jawara with a younger Jawara. What I didn't know then, was =
that the new Jawara was also more ruthless.
And finally, I would like to take this opportunity to express my sincere =
thanks to members of the Gambian media, especially those that speak up, =
and continue to share their opinions with Gambia-L subscribers. Foroyaa =
staffers (Halifa Sallah and Sheikh Tijan Nyang) are outstanding in this =
regard, and despite the fact that I do have some deep philosophical =
differences with their Party, I will for ever hold them in the highest =
esteem. The Independent has also stood their ground, and I do commend =
them for that. Keep up the great work!
I guess that's about it. I'll have to save the rest for later. Have a =
great weekend, and best wishes in your endeavors.
Katim
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi folks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm writing to express my deep =
disappointment with=20
George Sarr for sending in a posting that purportedly was from Tombong=20
Saidy. I am especially disappointed and saddened by the whole =
episode for=20
a variety of reasons: a) it was un-called for; b) it is unethical =
and=20
distracting; c) it came from I guy that I think should have known =
better. =20
Already, a number of subscribers have written to express their outrage, =
and=20
rightly so. The practice of spoofing (as computer geeks call it) =
has no=20
place on Gambia-L, and will not be tolerated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After reviewing diverse reactions to =
Mr. Sarr's=20
postings, I called him on the phone to discuss the issue with him. =
I told=20
him that I was disappointed that he would indulge in such a practice, =
and was=20
especially saddened given that I was really looking forward to working =
with him=20
on setting up the Free Gambia Web site. He offered his apologies, =
and=20
expressed his remorse, as he has done on the list. I told him that in =
view of=20
the gravity of what he has done, along with the fact that his act =
threatened the=20
credibility and health of the dialog and debate on the list, I have =
decided to=20
side with Dr. Amadou Janneh, and Momodou Camara (two of the Managers of =
the=20
list) and terminate his subscription to Gambia-L. I also told him =
that=20
Sarian Loum (another Gambia-L Manager) had asked that he should not be =
expelled,=20
but suspended for a "couple of weeks" from the list. I told him =
the other=20
remaining Manager to be heard from is Mr. Tony Loum, whom I haven't =
heard from=20
for months, since he moved from Seattle, Washington.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the circumstances, I would like to =
announce that=20
I will immediately be unsubscribing Mr. Sarr from Gambia-L. I have =
explained to Mr. Sarr that the decision is personally very painful for =
me, but=20
at the same time, one that must be taken in the best interest of =
Gambia-L, and=20
indeed, The Gambia. It's not a question of our personal =
relationships, or=20
whether or not it is the right or wrong decision. As I explained =
to Mr.=20
Sarr, who knows, maybe time would prove me wrong. But at the end =
of the=20
day, I want to make it clear to all that the decision to formally =
terminate Mr.=20
Sarr's subscription to Gambia-L was a considered one, done in good =
faith, and in=20
the hope that it is what's best for the list.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Already, comparisons have been made =
between Mr.=20
Sarr, and Matarr Njie. I also explained the issues to Mr. =
Sarr. =20
Briefly, I told him that there are two major issues to consider when =
comparing=20
his case to Mr. Njie's. First, they both impersonated people in =
sending=20
e-mail to the list. However, I explained to Mr. Sarr, Matarr =
Njie's=20
offense in this regard is far more tolerable because he (Matarr) assumed =
a=20
fictitious name (Burama Manjang) rather than assuming someone else's =
identity=20
like he (Mr. Sarr) did.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The other issue worth considering in =
comparing Mr.=20
Sarr's case to Mr. Njie's is that Mr. Sarr, to his credit, admitted to =
what he=20
did, and apologized for it. In contrast, Mr. Njie decided to not =
only deny=20
ever impersonating anyone, but also engaged in a vicious campaign of =
hurling=20
insults at people, on and off the list. To make matters worse, he =
insulted=20
peoples parents, even when they had nothing to do with what he was =
complaining=20
about. For example, I have been the recipient of his insults by =
e-mail=20
whenever someone says something he doesn't like on Gambia-L, whether or =
not I=20
said a word on the issue. These insults have been going on since =
we took=20
him off Gambia-L, and although they have died down once in a while, =
there's no=20
telling when he's going to fire off his next volley. The last came =
just a=20
few days ago, May 21, to be exact.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In light of the above facts, I think =
there is no=20
point in keeping Mr. Sarr on the list, and re-instating Mr. Njie's =
subscription,=20
as Malafy Jarju suggests. In my mind, such an action will amount =
to race=20
to the bottom of our moral ladder. As far as I'm concerned, the =
debate (or=20
shouting match sometimes) we are in is one about morality and =
ethics. =20
There is absolutely no point in cutting corners here and there just =
because it=20
would be the most comfortable thing to do. As tough as the =
decision to end=20
Mr. Sarr's subscription is for me, both personally, and because of =
the=20
inherent risk in alienating some, it simply had to be taken=20
and gotten over with because we have make sure that the =
atmosphere of=20
dialog and debate is not poisoned by deceit, and unethical=20
behavior.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I should also mention that I told Mr. =
Sarr that as=20
far as I am concerned the only circumstance under which I will consider =
his=20
re-admission to Gambia-L is if and when I receive an e-mail from Tombong =
Saidy=20
(who was impersonated) asking that he has forgiven Mr. Sarr, and that we =
should=20
consider re-subscribing him. Mr. Sarr told me that such a decision =
was=20
unfortunate, because it will mean that once again, Tombong has won. I =
would add=20
that it is in fact The Gambia that has won, and even if it is Tombong =
that has=20
won, I would say that if only Mr. Sarr had not started the war, there =
would not=20
have been anything to win. Not even for Tombong.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>On that note, I would like to encourage =
all of us=20
to move forward and leave this behind. The incident was =
unfortunate, and=20
I'm sure we're all mature enough to have learned well from it. =
Like I=20
heard someone say or I read somewhere, the important thing is that we =
are making=20
new mistakes, meaning that we are learning. After all, that's what =
it's=20
all about.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think this e-mail also offers an =
opportunity to=20
comment on two other issues. First, Seedy Saidy Khan asked in an =
e-mail of=20
a few days ago, whether I was going to ban obituaries on Gambia-L! =
Just=20
like I objected to religious postings. I would like to assure Mr. =
Saidy=20
Khan that I certainly do not have such intentions, although I'll be =
honest with=20
you to say that all those condolence messages that I think should have =
been sent=20
privately, but end up on the list, make me worry about how much =
bandwidth and=20
disk-space we are consuming! I know, you might be saying what a =
bean=20
counter! But you know, somebody has to worry about these things. =
On the=20
other hand, I also feel that these public condolence messages also paint =
a true=20
picture of a very caring and loving people, and for this reason, help =
set the=20
record of our debates straight: that even though we might be on each =
other's=20
throats once in a while, at the end of the day, we all are of one=20
nation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The next issue relates to a posting =
from Kebba=20
Dampha (by the way, there used to be a kind of sweet [candy] or "Tangal" =
in=20
Wollof called "Kebba Dampha") saying:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Courier New" size=3D2>" ...you tried to make a =
distinction=20
between the use of force and the treat of force in Yaya's overthrow of =
Jawara.=20
I think that was just semantics. The truth of the matter is, Yaya =
used=20
unconstitutional means to overthrow a democratically elected government =
at a=20
time when Gambians had a better opportunity to get rid of the government =
through=20
a free and fair election."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well, Mr. Dampha, I did not intend to =
play any game=20
of semantics there. The fact of the matter is that Jawara was =
overthrown=20
not by force, but by the threat of it's use. Remember, the military =
rulers=20
always prided themselves in pulling off a bloodless coup. And may =
I also=20
add that before you get the impression that I was at any one time a =
supporter of=20
the coup against Jawara, those who were on Gambia-L back then would =
recall my=20
saying that the coup was nothing but lawlessness, and that we had =
replaced=20
Jawara with a younger Jawara. What I didn't know then, was that =
the new=20
Jawara was also more ruthless.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And finally, I would like to take this =
opportunity=20
to express my sincere thanks to members of the Gambian media, especially =
those=20
that speak up, and continue to share their opinions with Gambia-L=20
subscribers. Foroyaa staffers (Halifa Sallah and Sheikh Tijan =
Nyang) are=20
outstanding in this regard, and despite the fact that I do have some =
deep=20
philosophical differences with their Party, I will for ever hold them in =
the=20
highest esteem. The Independent has also stood their ground, and I =
do=20
commend them for that. Keep up the great work!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess that's about it. I'll =
have to save=20
the rest for later. Have a great weekend, and best wishes in your=20
endeavors.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Katim</FONT></DIV>
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An empty barrel makes the most sound.
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This is really pathetic. I can't imagined seeing these students suffered the
way they've suffered. The Government DO really owed them an explanations as
to why they did these brutal attacks on our beloved students. I do really
feel for you and wish I could do something about it. I'm totally disappointed
by the government's actions and sometimes wonder where the country is
heading. You are totally responsible for this chaos and I do believe you
could have done better than the killings. You have no excuse for these
actions. The Paramilitary or whatever you called them and whoever ordered the
killings SHOULD be PROSECUTED to the fullest. No room for entertainment for
such heinous ACT.
We CANNOT, WOULD NOT and SHOULD NOT let these kind of DRAWBACKS destabilize
our beloved GAMBIA.
Long Live The Gambia, Long Live The PEOPLE Of The Gambia.
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Tombong,
Well you should know by now that most of these attackers on you are Anti-your
Government. They're probably seeing you as the government's mouthpiece. I
think you are the one entertaining some of their Trashtalkings. You just have
to let some past. Whether you're a cabby, a graduate or whatever they called
you, who cares? Let them say and gossip. A person who chatters to you will
one day chatter of you. Remember this proverb.
God bless.
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Mafy,
There is no true democracy anywhere in the world. Gambia-L, of course, you
and I know it's a one sided forum and would do anything to encourage anti-
Jammeh government. They decides who to delist and that's it.
Don't waste your time. Let's move on.
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I do not see the contradictions you are talking about. There was nothing in
the President's speech indicating that all detainees or detained students
should be released. Despite what some of you think or are made to believe,
students were being released either on bail or to the custody of their
parents as far back as 13 April.
Besides, there is a process through which all detainees must go through,
whether they are detained legally or illegally. My last posting on this
matter stated clearly that all students were released except 6 and this was
before the President visited the wounded at the RVH. Their cases were being
processed and presently there is no single student in detention because of
the events of 10 & 11 April 2000.
The President showed his compassion and expressed his sorrow and sympathy to
the bereaved and wounded and this was clearly stated in his address to the
nation and during his different meetings with opinion leaders, religious
leaders and principles of the various schools. He will also be meeting with
the students to hear from them directly, their side of the matter. The
President was not in the country when this tragic event took place and it is
only fair for him to listen to every possible side in order to get the true
picture of what really happened. Believe me, the President wants to know the
full story, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I do not see any
thing wrong for the President to visit the wounded at RVH. He went there
alone (not Secretary of State or security chief) to talk to the students in
private and to wish them well. He went to visit them because he cares.
The coroner's inquest has started and as far as I can recall, this is the
first time such an inquest has been set up to find the truth. It is open to
the public and no body will be prosecuted or intimidated because of evidence
they gave in this inquest. The coroner is expected to submit his report by
May 15th 2000.
As the Attorney General stated on many occasions, it is the judiciary system
which is on trial here and things should not only be done in a transparent
manner, but Gambians should see it being done in a transparent manner. The
commission of enquiry is already set and will be announced next week.
Membership to such a commission should be made of people with good
reputation, independent mind and people who are not pro or anti Jammeh, but
people who would look for nothing but the truth. I know the members and I
would have liked to reveal the names here but since it has not yet been
announced by the Attorney General, I would wait for him to announce it to
the public. You will definitely agree with the team that would make this
commission.
The President has said in his speech that he will not leave any stone
un-turned in the search for the truth, and those who are responsible for
this tragic day, will be dealt with accordingly. I do not think we should
rush into taking decisions and making judgement before all the facts are
laid in front of us. The justice we are all looking for will be done. We
need peace and justice and that we will have in The Gambia.
PEACE
Tombong
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:41:45 +0300
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Brother Bob
Can you take your time reading my argument before jumping in to the
conclution. You think you do understood my point but I cannot see the tail
and the head of your point here. I am not saying that there should not be
democracy in the Gambia, and secondly using military act to gain power is
not at democratic. I am sorry but I don't really understand your argument
so if you want a better answer please be specific and constructive to you
point. I am looking forward to read better ragument from. and give regards
to the Norwegians Terve t=E4=E4s ja kuuleemin.
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PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, boubacarr touray wrote:
> Mr edi sidibeh,
>=20
> I have read your posting carefuly, what I do understood there is simply. =
Are
> you wishing a kind of gambia like the one we all are prevailing in. Broth=
er
> lets not argued for the sake of arguement.
>=20
> when we said change for better ,not change for backwardness.every one is =
a
> soldier in truth, are you not one of the soldiers.If colly , Jatta etc, a=
re
> former soldiers out side of the gambia , but they are perpetuating for tr=
ue
> democracy , why do you have to castigate them , even you already knew th=
e
> truth ?Ministerial potfollios are not the issue here . The issue is, true
> democracy justice for all mankind, rich or poor.
>=20
> Lets not be denouncers of truth , lets be in the sides of Gods messengers=
=2E
> Muhammed (peace and blessing be unto him, Jessus, Mooses, This great
> prophets are the deliveres of truths.
>=20
> You have the right to support any political party in this world , but it
> should=B4nt mean that your party is the party for all mankind, which ever=
y one
> should follow.Brother let us stop dreaming , without democracy Gambia and
> Africa can never develope.
>=20
> We all wanna go home today or 2morrow to contribute to the development of
> our country , but do we want to leave in such a situation as our
> parents?Gambia belongs to all of us .Let=B4s join together and guide it t=
o the
> pavement.Their where generations before us and their will be a generation
> after us.
> their is nothing like opportunism when people are expressing true
> democracy.Yes i think even your self want a better changes.
> Brother, like the FINS said HASTA KUKKEA and face the reality.
>=20
> Terve
> buba
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> >From: edi sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
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> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: TOMBONG PLEASE HELP US ANSWER THESE
> >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:53:43 +0300
> >
> >Fellow member,
> >I think some people in this forum will never understand power and it
> >influence to a human kind, especially Power hungry Africans.Remember whe=
n
> >Yaya came to power everyone was happy to see changes of government which
> >was domination the entire political scenerio for three decates with less
> >impact in the life of ordinery Gambians. There intention was as well not
> >to retain power but since the effect was overwelming in the eye of the
> >general public, they can't help but to retain in power and taste the
> >holiness of recieveing fat salaries. If we remember this anymore, I thin=
k
> >we should not cry for such kind of change to happen. Being a believer of
> >islam, and having in mind that God is the creator and is He who knows wh=
at
> >best, I will never encourage blood setting means to means to gain power.
> >Especially if i will not suffer the consiquences since I am not living i=
n
> >the country. Gambia is so small and poor due to lack of natural resource
> >but rich in culture youthfulness which in some point, can replace the la=
ck
> >of natural(if education and know-how policies are put in to it's right
> >place) If means to topple the government is still military what kinds of
> >gambians at heart we think we are since everyone knows how effective thi=
s
> >kind of means can bring about? The soldiers contributing to this forum a=
re
> >not living in the gambia at the moment, but were the same soldiers who
> >helped Yaya to power, since they were not given ministerial posts as
> >expected, they turn against him. Yet is the same people who are wishing
> >the military take over again. Do you think this people are serious or ar=
e
> >they trying to full again and gain our support to over throw and stick t=
o
> >the holiness. How long was Wadda fighting to change the government? but
> >never use forces to come to power but when God's time came no human can
> >stop it happen. As our neighbour, and brother country, Senegal should be
> >our role model. One without patient and tolerance is a danger to
> >him/herself as well as the society at large.
> >MAY GOD THE ALMIGHTY GRANT US WITH TOLERANCE AND PATIENCE TOWARDS OUR
> >DESIRES OF GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. AMEN
> >
> >__________________________________________________________________
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What a bull...how dare u tell us the president is concerned or whatever shit
u connotate about the affairs of our heroes after ordering their massacre
whilst wasting our minimal state resources in cuba. we are not stupid
mr.T...., we do know what it takes to be concerned and we certainly
comprehend when we are faced with the devil in her true colors. In a
mandingo saying "buu kuu sumunalaa"...literary speaking, ur master is just
telling the gambian people, I KILL UR KIDS AS PROMISED SO WHAT.. we will get
him fairly and independently. I hope he will have an excellent explanation
when when the right time comes.
kittos
peter
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>Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 02:19:32 PDT
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>I do not see the contradictions you are talking about. There was nothing in
>the President's speech indicating that all detainees or detained students
>should be released. Despite what some of you think or are made to believe,
>students were being released either on bail or to the custody of their
>parents as far back as 13 April.
>
>Besides, there is a process through which all detainees must go through,
>whether they are detained legally or illegally. My last posting on this
>matter stated clearly that all students were released except 6 and this was
>before the President visited the wounded at the RVH. Their cases were being
>processed and presently there is no single student in detention because of
>the events of 10 & 11 April 2000.
>
>The President showed his compassion and expressed his sorrow and sympathy
>to
>the bereaved and wounded and this was clearly stated in his address to the
>nation and during his different meetings with opinion leaders, religious
>leaders and principles of the various schools. He will also be meeting with
>the students to hear from them directly, their side of the matter. The
>President was not in the country when this tragic event took place and it
>is
>only fair for him to listen to every possible side in order to get the true
>picture of what really happened. Believe me, the President wants to know
>the
>full story, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I do not see any
>thing wrong for the President to visit the wounded at RVH. He went there
>alone (not Secretary of State or security chief) to talk to the students in
>private and to wish them well. He went to visit them because he cares.
>
>The coroner's inquest has started and as far as I can recall, this is the
>first time such an inquest has been set up to find the truth. It is open to
>the public and no body will be prosecuted or intimidated because of
>evidence
>they gave in this inquest. The coroner is expected to submit his report by
>May 15th 2000.
>
>As the Attorney General stated on many occasions, it is the judiciary
>system
>which is on trial here and things should not only be done in a transparent
>manner, but Gambians should see it being done in a transparent manner. The
>commission of enquiry is already set and will be announced next week.
>Membership to such a commission should be made of people with good
>reputation, independent mind and people who are not pro or anti Jammeh, but
>people who would look for nothing but the truth. I know the members and I
>would have liked to reveal the names here but since it has not yet been
>announced by the Attorney General, I would wait for him to announce it to
>the public. You will definitely agree with the team that would make this
>commission.
>
>The President has said in his speech that he will not leave any stone
>un-turned in the search for the truth, and those who are responsible for
>this tragic day, will be dealt with accordingly. I do not think we should
>rush into taking decisions and making judgement before all the facts are
>laid in front of us. The justice we are all looking for will be done. We
>need peace and justice and that we will have in The Gambia.
>
>
>PEACE
>
>Tombong
>
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:32:39 -0000
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Hello to all "Swedish Gambians"!
Is there anything new about the demonstration tomorrow
in Stockholm?
Greetings from Monica Ceesay.
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PRESS STATEMENT
APRIL 10TH 2000
Students world-wide have been torch bearers for change. In The Gambia as=
else where they have the right to disseminate the benefits of high
education to the citizens, who are their parents and those who pay for th=
e
cost of government, as a right. The staggering death of 12 and more
students confounds the usually silent population and it could not be laid=
to rest. The FM(1) public debate on Tuesday, aftermath of the blood bath=
,
showed as much that we have a national crisis as the incomprehension of t=
he
security forces and the gravity of their actions.
It would be a tragedy if us the other citizens allow the students to be
isolated and victimised, one by one. They have shown of being a promise,=
by standing by heir female colleague and by Ebrima Barry, the unfortunate=
and innocent youngman. The brutality with which the security forces
tortured him and his untimely death and the insensitivity of the teacher
and that made the police officers intrude the sanctify of academic freedo=
m,
create doubts in our minds about quality in our academic life and the
competence of the academic staff.
With combine single voice across the nation, the students spoke and acted=
as one man. The question that needs to be asked, is who gave orders to u=
se
life-bullets against defenseless and innocent students? What were the
rules of engagement of these orders? These questions, students as well a=
s
all Gambians want an answer to. The immediate cause of the violence must=
be put squarely on the doorsteps of the government and its leaders. They=
=
have innocent blood on their hands. The pathetic engagement of unequal
forces, dawns a dangerous precedence that cannot go unpunished.
The death of innocent students in the hands of their own fellow nationals=
,
concerned citizens, cannot but allow the behaviors of the law enforcement=
officers only be descried as nothing less than an act of barbarism. The
Gambian students are not alone in these questions of fundamental rights. =
Well beyond our great country they are not alone in this struggling times=
=2E =
Throughout the continent, students have shown, in most cases, their
responsibility and commitment, to issues of national concern, whether thi=
s
is in Burkina-Faso or in South Africa. This spirit of political dynamism=
has proved to the students that the state is an ass and that they must be=
heard.
And the population would not stand by and let them down. They are no
bandits or irresponsible idlers but seeds of the future who were answerin=
g
to the call of their historical responsibility.
WE must without doubt be able to question who is responsible for their
murder, who gave he command to the rank and file of the soldiers, to comm=
it
such heinous crime, such an answer will lay the grounds for a new politic=
al
situation in this country.
Leadership requires the ability to articulate the voices of people as one=
combined by circumstances. The purpose of this responsibility is to rais=
e
higher the quality of democratic ideals. It is a matter of principles,
conviction and fraternity to roundly condemn violent death in cold blood.=
=
The fascist murder of Journalist and Red Cross volunteer Omar Barrow will=
go sown in the annals of history as cowardly and a violation of
international justice. It is a transgression of the Geneva rules of
neutrality and conscience.
When the apparatus seems to become unpredictable in its co-ordination,
democratic principles that constitutions theoretically contend, become
stretched between the effects of elections and election systems as with t=
he
political rights that can be asserted by others not sharing the position =
of
he status quo. Conflict can break into the open. Negotiations need to b=
e
brokered by those who will have their bearings. A judiciary inquiry shou=
ld
be setup as well as a corona's inquest. These start with the status quo
setting no limits on expression of freedom. There cannot be any
qualification of this truth.
It is the first and final rule of student politics that student demands f=
or
their rights provide the prism for any reactions to their actions. The
chronicle of pursue and destroy which we see in the action of the securit=
y
forces is as the heart of the misconception of authority that power is
sancrosant and a monopoly. Army Chief of - Staff Jatta and Interior =
Secretary Badjie had every opportunity to satisfy themselves to the
independence of actions of 10th April.
It is time to break the silence.
To the press; open letter to the Gambia people. =
=
=
=
=
=
=
JUNKUNDA DAFFEH
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Hi folks,
The e-mail below is one of those that is a constant source of grief to many
on the list. I mean why in the world does Peter Sanyang have to use the
words he is using below. For this reason, I would like to say to Peter and
people like him that I would appreciate it if in the future you would kindly
refrain from using language like he is using below. As I and many people
have indicated, it does NOBODY, any good for us to engage in insults.
Please realize that our forum is public, and you should at least respect
other people, if not people who make you want to insult them.
Thanks, and best wishes.
Katim
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> What a bull...how dare u tell us the president is concerned or whatever
shit
> u connotate about the affairs of our heroes after ordering their massacre
> whilst wasting our minimal state resources in cuba. we are not stupid
> mr.T...., we do know what it takes to be concerned and we certainly
> comprehend when we are faced with the devil in her true colors. In a
> mandingo saying "buu kuu sumunalaa"...literary speaking, ur master is just
> telling the gambian people, I KILL UR KIDS AS PROMISED SO WHAT.. we will
get
> him fairly and independently. I hope he will have an excellent explanation
> when when the right time comes.
> kittos
> peter
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Essa:
You have said it all.
Comrade,
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Gambia-L:
Will someone please tell Jammeh supporters like Mafy, Tombong and one EB
that Gambia-L is as democratic as democratic could conceivably be practised
in it's most idealistic notion. I have been long enough a member of this List
to testify that no one has ever been denied speaking their minds even if it
means they are merely patronising Jammeh for their own personal growth or
acting as toadies. So what's all this sanctimonious hectoring about the List
managers being undemocratic in their endeavours concerning this? Maybe I'm in
the dark about something here? Could someone fill me in?
If the case of Matarr is what peeved the daylights out of Mafy to
erroneously allude undemocratic proclivities to this List then he has yet to
show a good sign that he has an ingenious way of judging disputes. At any
rate, Matarr's behaviour was that of a morally depraved sexual misfit for
pouring so much vitriolic insults on amongst others Katim, Saul, et al and at
times their mothers. How can anyone contest the delisting of such a
character? Or better still advocate for his resubscription to the List? The
fact that Matarr can't simply put forward his points without resorting to
vitriolic purgation, disqualifies him from any decent civilised forum where
free speech is welcomed. But why is Mafy so peeved with Matarr's delistment?
Could it be that Matarr is another who subscribes to Jammeh's irrational and
naive Pan Africanist sentiments and would chose to defend him at all costs
even if it reeks of illogicism?
I have on several occasions received private mails from Matarr himself
especially when I defended Jammeh's pants; his right to privacy vis-a-vis the
case of his supposedly "third wife" and the Independent newspaper. He
mistakenly took my robust defence of Jammeh's privacy as a sign that I'm in
the Jammeh camp. Unlike them I have a very open mind and very objective way
of looking at reality. Whilst I detested what Jammeh is hell bent on doing to
the Gambia, I always give him his dues. If only some of them show such
maturity in their thinking.
On Tombong, isn't it a matter of ironic wit that he complains of being
denied his right to be heard or is constantly heckled online when he presides
over a tax payer maintained Radio and Television services where acting as
Jammeh's lickspittle, he carry out directives and policy drives that deny the
tax payer value for their taxes and for their real voices to be hear? Tombong
ain't it a bit rich of you to complain of democracy on Gambia-L? You who
still deny Gambians of all shade and colour to enjoy their views being heard
on a public property? Alas GRTS is supposedly Jammeh's and only those in the
Jammeh club are entitled to be heard on this tax payer maintained public
properties. But it is always fitting and convenient for you to complain of
Gambia-L being anti-Jammeh. Well, it was never imposed on anyone to be anti
Jammeh; those who express their outrage of Jammeh's brutality didn't chose so
because Katim or anyone else for that matter imposed it upon them as
prerequisite before joining Gambia-L. And in the end please juxtapose the
free exchange of ideas on this List and the moribund enforced dull conformism
that exists on GRTS and the Gambia Daily. If you can still call Gambia-L
undemocratic without the twitching of a muscle in your face, then I will know
for real that you are the most two faced person ever! Tombong one must
practise what one preaches. Go practise real democracy on GRTS and stop this
whingeing about Gambia-L being undemocratic!
On this EB chappie, I have little to say cos he is the most timorous of
the Jammeh bunch who are shifting uncomfortably in their slumbers. His last
posting belatedly denouncing the brutal slaughter of school kids by Jammeh's
trigger happy loutish philistines speaks volumes of classic double standards.
When attention is being turned to those who maintained their silences whilst
the blood of school children ran like a river in the Gambia, he should crops
up Mafy Jarju style and denounces it stopping short of blaming Jammeh
himself. Well, EB to save you cringing in case you are quizzed about who
ordered the shooting of these children, it was Jammeh himself who ordered
they should not be tolerated if they dare go out demonstrate. This is the
irrefutable reality.
To all of you whingeing here about democratic principles, save your
breath. If the level of tolerance that is on Gambia-L is being exercised in
the same manner in the Gambia, we wouldn't be mourning the murder of school
children. Or keep hearing people like Shyngle Nyassi would be tortured for
not believing in the criminal idea sentimental claptrap that Jammeh has come
to resurrect "the Jola nation", whatever that is supposed to mean, and all
Jola speaking people should rally behind him.
What is of significance though, is that amicably we agree to disagree and
remember that our deeds of today will determine tomorrow. If we are really
interested in creating a future for our children that wouldn't force them no
tot leave their home lands and loved ones for better deals abroad, then we
must be conscientious and above all be rigourous in our defence of the truth
whilst hypocrisy and self serving tendencies take the backstage. Lets chew on
this.
To Katim, you have shown leadership qualities in delisting George for his
puerile misdemeanours and re-emphasising that morals are indeed upheld here
like in any decent civilised community. In acting the way you did, you have
won my admiration and proven Gambia-L's critics wrong again. If only the
barbarous regime back home practises the same qualities, we would be talking
of different things as of the future of our country.
To George Sarr aka Machiavelli [Makavelli] please remember in the end,
the means doesn't always justify the end. If you had read Machiavelli's
political thought more, you would notice the most stringent regime he placed
as a prerequisite before a dose cynicism/questinable means could be used as a
tool for campaigns to meet a political end. Please do not give the likes of
Tombong an angle to hold over our heads. Stay true bro...... I feel you. You
will be missed.
Wishing y'all a blissful weekend.
Hamjatta Kanteh
hkanteh
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 05:47:12 PDT
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Yusupha,
Your wake up call was timing and I hope that all attention will be focus=
on
this terrible incident.However I have very much enjoyed the discussions t=
hat
have been taking place since this incident took place.People have committ=
ed
them selves to do something and many are doing something.Every objective
situation demands a serious analysis to pave the way for a forward moveme=
nt.I
have said here that the Gambian people are much more politically consciou=
s and
advance than many of us could imagine,this is why the April incident took=
all
of us with a storm.No political party was prepared for such an event,it w=
as
not even in their vocabulary,it shows that it is mere academic arrogance =
to
say that our people are not politically conscious but more correct to say=
that
we will never learn to listen to what the people have to say,one politica=
l
scientist said that there is nothing in the head of the most genius among=
us
that is not in the day to day practical life(activity) of the people.That=
it
is much more better to learn to listen and coordinate the experience of t=
he
people than claiming that you need to educate them politically,they will
always be ahead of you.In so doing the umbrella organisation that is in t=
he
marking must avoid falling in the same trap as all the other political =
organisations in the Gambia,if not it will only be a place for academic
exercise.I am of the opinion that this organisation in the marking should=
be
more of a pressure group,that will have as a task to monitor human rights=
issues,providing resources and sponsoring programmes that are meant to
coordinate and promote the activities of organisations working for a
democratic and just society in the Gambia.We can play a vital role if onl=
y we
have a concrete programme to work on,which must also be able to reflect t=
he
fact that we are a group of people with different political believes and
leaving in different countries.
We have seen also that since this event took place people have been calli=
ng
for another form of struggle or simply saying by any means necessary.If E=
bou
Colly and friends declared that Jammeh must go by all means necessary,I
personally see no reason to believe that this is a declaration of war aga=
inst
=2EEbou Colly and friends will never be able to put the Gambia on war foo=
t,this
could only be possible if the Gambian people find out that the only optio=
n
they have to remove the AFPRC government is through violence.To avoid Gam=
bians
coming to such a conclusion,is not to tremble before Ebou Colly and frien=
ds,it
is much more the responsibility of the AFPRC government to make sure that=
this
does not happen.If the people should be convince that it is only through
violence they can effect change in the Gambian,then this must have been b=
orn
out of their experience in dealing with the regime in power.That is to sa=
y,if
the AFPRC government wants to solve all contradictions through violence,a=
s =
they did on April 10th,then who can stop the people from thinking that it=
is a
question of life and dead to remove this government.When I saw that young=
girl
with her banner saying that they as students are prepared to die than see=
injustice,then it became clear to me that the "Six feet Deep"talk by the
president is creating something in the minds of the Gambian people,and wh=
en
the students refused to dispass even after the news that some students ha=
ve
been shot dead,it became more clear to me that the political situation in=
this
country have reach another level.I have witness student demonstration in=
the
Gambia but never before have I heard or seen students demonstrating thei=
r
demands in such a manner.We must never pretend that we are able to preven=
t a
violent solution to the problems of our country,the government in power h=
as
the sole responsibility to make sure that the country is peaceful by reso=
rting
to a democratic way of solving political problems,you dont create fear in=
the
minds of the people by telling them that they will go six feet deep or gu=
nning
down young children because you feel that your position is in danger.If t=
here
should be any one to learn from the declaration of Ebou Colly and friends=
then
it must be the government,they cannot tell our children ,brothers and sis=
ters
that the only way out to deal with them is through violence.Ebou Colly wi=
ll be
proof correct if the AFPRC regime continues to solve contradiction throug=
h
this way,to proof him wrong is for the regime to act differently by disso=
lving
the killing machine.
For Freedom =
Saiks
It is with the utmost dismay that I and others have seen our beloved Gamb=
ia-L
dominated by a barrage of insults, allegations and counter allegations. =
My
concern is that we are getting side tracked from what really matters, the=
brutal regime's killing of unarmed infants.
A long time ago our colonizers, the British particularly, had a policy ca=
lled
divide and conquer. The goal of this policy was to make our forefathers
weaker by dividing us into tribes and class groups. If one looks at the =
make
up of Africa today, that policy is apparent. Even Yahya Jammeh has used =
the
tribalist and class card in his numerous misguided sermons on Gambian TV.=
For
example, he labelled the hard working residents of Fajara as thieves. =
Tombong, Malafy and the numerous sympathisers of this regime are attempti=
ng to
use the same ploy and have succeeded in temporarily detracting us from ou=
r
main goals: Voicing our dissatisfaction about the regime and the slow ar=
duous
task of removing this government from the seat of power.
Even though most of us have our firm disagreements with Tombong and Co, w=
e
have to be ready to deal with these people objectively. We cannot afford=
to
hurl insults at them from the relative safety of our computer rooms, nor =
can
we use smear tactics against any of them. After all, what purpose does
demaning any human being serve? It is a zero sum game that no one wins. =
The
end result is that feelings get hurt and things that really don't matter
become part of the big picture.
It is my genuine hope that we will forget this regrettable period and con=
tinue
our task of addressing ways of avoiding the quagmire that our country is
embroiled in. Let us all focus and beat the colloborators at their own g=
ame. =
By using our brains.
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 06:11:40 PDT
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TOMBONG SAIDy,
If you are not able to see the contradiction then it is Ok for you,but so=
me of
us are just wondering ,if the president did say he was in constant contac=
t
with his government on the ground during the whole event and now you are
telling us that the president want to know what was happening then there =
are
two things here !
1)It was not true that the president knew what was happening on the groun=
d,he
was not in constant contact with his government on the issue
2)Or after his returned from Cuba,he now believed that he was not informe=
d of
the whole truth and that he should find it out himself,why is he then
maintaining the same government,the same people who informed him wrongly =
or
believed to have informed him wrongly?talking to the students to find out=
what
happened is that not duplicating the efforts of those responsible for the=
hearing or he simply does not trust them ?
There is a vital question that the president needs to answer,who gave the=
command for the shooting ? should this person sit and command still while=
s he
await for His/her removal ?Until then the struggle continues !!
For freedom
Saiks
I do not see the contradictions you are talking about. There was nothing =
in
the President's speech indicating that all detainees or detained students=
should be released. Despite what some of you think or are made to believe=
,
students were being released either on bail or to the custody of their
parents as far back as 13 April.
Besides, there is a process through which all detainees must go through,
whether they are detained legally or illegally. My last posting on this
matter stated clearly that all students were released except 6 and this w=
as
before the President visited the wounded at the RVH. Their cases were bei=
ng
processed and presently there is no single student in detention because o=
f
the events of 10 & 11 April 2000.
The President showed his compassion and expressed his sorrow and sympathy=
to
the bereaved and wounded and this was clearly stated in his address to th=
e
nation and during his different meetings with opinion leaders, religious
leaders and principles of the various schools. He will also be meeting wi=
th
the students to hear from them directly, their side of the matter. The
President was not in the country when this tragic event took place and it=
is
only fair for him to listen to every possible side in order to get the tr=
ue
picture of what really happened. Believe me, the President wants to know =
the
full story, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I do not see any
thing wrong for the President to visit the wounded at RVH. He went there
alone (not Secretary of State or security chief) to talk to the students =
in
private and to wish them well. He went to visit them because he cares.
The coroner's inquest has started and as far as I can recall, this is the=
first time such an inquest has been set up to find the truth. It is open =
to
the public and no body will be prosecuted or intimidated because of evide=
nce
they gave in this inquest. The coroner is expected to submit his report b=
y
May 15th 2000.
As the Attorney General stated on many occasions, it is the judiciary sys=
tem
which is on trial here and things should not only be done in a transparen=
t
manner, but Gambians should see it being done in a transparent manner. Th=
e
commission of enquiry is already set and will be announced next week.
Membership to such a commission should be made of people with good
reputation, independent mind and people who are not pro or anti Jammeh, b=
ut
people who would look for nothing but the truth. I know the members and I=
would have liked to reveal the names here but since it has not yet been
announced by the Attorney General, I would wait for him to announce it to=
the public. You will definitely agree with the team that would make this
commission.
The President has said in his speech that he will not leave any stone
un-turned in the search for the truth, and those who are responsible for
this tragic day, will be dealt with accordingly. I do not think we should=
rush into taking decisions and making judgement before all the facts are
laid in front of us. The justice we are all looking for will be done. We
need peace and justice and that we will have in The Gambia.
PEACE
Tombong
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Mr. Touray,
I read your piece and must say that it is unfortunate that you decided to
quote the area you did and still appear to credit Yaya and his gang for the
fact that the July 22, 1994 coup was bloodless. Like I explained before,
those of us who were in The Gambia, watching objectively while things unfold
know why the coup was bloodless. In my humble opinion, the distinction
between the use of force and threat thereof is irrelevant; especially when
used in order to give credit to a regime that has shamelessly used brutal
force on the very citizens they are meant to protect.
Secondly, I did not mean to insinuate that you were one of those people who
supported the unconstitutional changes that took place when Yaya took over.
If I knew for certain that you did and I wanted to say so, I would do that
in no uncertain terms.
I hate to be sidetracked by issues like this because my main focus should be
TO GET RID OF YAYA BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY so that we would not have another
April 10 massacre.
KB
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>Subject: George Sarr's Subscription, and other issues ...
>Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 23:29:48 -0700
>
>Hi folks,
>
>I'm writing to express my deep disappointment with George Sarr for sending
>in a posting that purportedly was from Tombong Saidy. I am especially
>disappointed and saddened by the whole episode for a variety of reasons:
>a) it was un-called for; b) it is unethical and distracting; c) it came
>from I guy that I think should have known better. Already, a number of
>subscribers have written to express their outrage, and rightly so. The
>practice of spoofing (as computer geeks call it) has no place on Gambia-L,
>and will not be tolerated.
>
>After reviewing diverse reactions to Mr. Sarr's postings, I called him on
>the phone to discuss the issue with him. I told him that I was
>disappointed that he would indulge in such a practice, and was especially
>saddened given that I was really looking forward to working with him on
>setting up the Free Gambia Web site. He offered his apologies, and
>expressed his remorse, as he has done on the list. I told him that in view
>of the gravity of what he has done, along with the fact that his act
>threatened the credibility and health of the dialog and debate on the list,
>I have decided to side with Dr. Amadou Janneh, and Momodou Camara (two of
>the Managers of the list) and terminate his subscription to Gambia-L. I
>also told him that Sarian Loum (another Gambia-L Manager) had asked that he
>should not be expelled, but suspended for a "couple of weeks" from the
>list. I told him the other remaining Manager to be heard from is Mr. Tony
>Loum, whom I haven't heard from for months, since he moved from Seattle,
>Washington.
>
>In the circumstances, I would like to announce that I will immediately be
>unsubscribing Mr. Sarr from Gambia-L. I have explained to Mr. Sarr that
>the decision is personally very painful for me, but at the same time, one
>that must be taken in the best interest of Gambia-L, and indeed, The
>Gambia. It's not a question of our personal relationships, or whether or
>not it is the right or wrong decision. As I explained to Mr. Sarr, who
>knows, maybe time would prove me wrong. But at the end of the day, I want
>to make it clear to all that the decision to formally terminate Mr. Sarr's
>subscription to Gambia-L was a considered one, done in good faith, and in
>the hope that it is what's best for the list.
>
>Already, comparisons have been made between Mr. Sarr, and Matarr Njie. I
>also explained the issues to Mr. Sarr. Briefly, I told him that there are
>two major issues to consider when comparing his case to Mr. Njie's. First,
>they both impersonated people in sending e-mail to the list. However, I
>explained to Mr. Sarr, Matarr Njie's offense in this regard is far more
>tolerable because he (Matarr) assumed a fictitious name (Burama Manjang)
>rather than assuming someone else's identity like he (Mr. Sarr) did.
>
>The other issue worth considering in comparing Mr. Sarr's case to Mr.
>Njie's is that Mr. Sarr, to his credit, admitted to what he did, and
>apologized for it. In contrast, Mr. Njie decided to not only deny ever
>impersonating anyone, but also engaged in a vicious campaign of hurling
>insults at people, on and off the list. To make matters worse, he insulted
>peoples parents, even when they had nothing to do with what he was
>complaining about. For example, I have been the recipient of his insults
>by e-mail whenever someone says something he doesn't like on Gambia-L,
>whether or not I said a word on the issue. These insults have been going
>on since we took him off Gambia-L, and although they have died down once in
>a while, there's no telling when he's going to fire off his next volley.
>The last came just a few days ago, May 21, to be exact.
>
>In light of the above facts, I think there is no point in keeping Mr. Sarr
>on the list, and re-instating Mr. Njie's subscription, as Malafy Jarju
>suggests. In my mind, such an action will amount to race to the bottom of
>our moral ladder. As far as I'm concerned, the debate (or shouting match
>sometimes) we are in is one about morality and ethics. There is absolutely
>no point in cutting corners here and there just because it would be the
>most comfortable thing to do. As tough as the decision to end Mr. Sarr's
>subscription is for me, both personally, and because of the inherent risk
>in alienating some, it simply had to be taken and gotten over with because
>we have make sure that the atmosphere of dialog and debate is not poisoned
>by deceit, and unethical behavior.
>
>I should also mention that I told Mr. Sarr that as far as I am concerned
>the only circumstance under which I will consider his re-admission to
>Gambia-L is if and when I receive an e-mail from Tombong Saidy (who was
>impersonated) asking that he has forgiven Mr. Sarr, and that we should
>consider re-subscribing him. Mr. Sarr told me that such a decision was
>unfortunate, because it will mean that once again, Tombong has won. I would
>add that it is in fact The Gambia that has won, and even if it is Tombong
>that has won, I would say that if only Mr. Sarr had not started the war,
>there would not have been anything to win. Not even for Tombong.
>
>On that note, I would like to encourage all of us to move forward and leave
>this behind. The incident was unfortunate, and I'm sure we're all mature
>enough to have learned well from it. Like I heard someone say or I read
>somewhere, the important thing is that we are making new mistakes, meaning
>that we are learning. After all, that's what it's all about.
>
>I think this e-mail also offers an opportunity to comment on two other
>issues. First, Seedy Saidy Khan asked in an e-mail of a few days ago,
>whether I was going to ban obituaries on Gambia-L! Just like I objected to
>religious postings. I would like to assure Mr. Saidy Khan that I certainly
>do not have such intentions, although I'll be honest with you to say that
>all those condolence messages that I think should have been sent privately,
>but end up on the list, make me worry about how much bandwidth and
>disk-space we are consuming! I know, you might be saying what a bean
>counter! But you know, somebody has to worry about these things. On the
>other hand, I also feel that these public condolence messages also paint a
>true picture of a very caring and loving people, and for this reason, help
>set the record of our debates straight: that even though we might be on
>each other's throats once in a while, at the end of the day, we all are of
>one nation.
>
>The next issue relates to a posting from Kebba Dampha (by the way, there
>used to be a kind of sweet [candy] or "Tangal" in Wollof called "Kebba
>Dampha") saying:
>
>" ...you tried to make a distinction between the use of force and the treat
>of force in Yaya's overthrow of Jawara. I think that was just semantics.
>The truth of the matter is, Yaya used unconstitutional means to overthrow a
>democratically elected government at a time when Gambians had a better
>opportunity to get rid of the government through a free and fair election."
>
>Well, Mr. Dampha, I did not intend to play any game of semantics there.
>The fact of the matter is that Jawara was overthrown not by force, but by
>the threat of it's use. Remember, the military rulers always prided
>themselves in pulling off a bloodless coup. And may I also add that before
>you get the impression that I was at any one time a supporter of the coup
>against Jawara, those who were on Gambia-L back then would recall my saying
>that the coup was nothing but lawlessness, and that we had replaced Jawara
>with a younger Jawara. What I didn't know then, was that the new Jawara
>was also more ruthless.
>
>And finally, I would like to take this opportunity to express my sincere
>thanks to members of the Gambian media, especially those that speak up, and
>continue to share their opinions with Gambia-L subscribers. Foroyaa
>staffers (Halifa Sallah and Sheikh Tijan Nyang) are outstanding in this
>regard, and despite the fact that I do have some deep philosophical
>differences with their Party, I will for ever hold them in the highest
>esteem. The Independent has also stood their ground, and I do commend them
>for that. Keep up the great work!
>
>I guess that's about it. I'll have to save the rest for later. Have a
>great weekend, and best wishes in your endeavors.
>
>Katim
>
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 07:05:23 PDT
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Asbj=F8rn Nordam ,
In the radio talk show programme that followed after the incident,people =
were
asking almost the same questions .I can tell you that by accident I have =
seen
people picking up bullets that have been fired and as you can read also f=
rom
the reports Drs have produced bullets that have been found in the bodies =
of
the students.The lies that life bullets were not use by the military,is n=
ow a
rotten story,they have now change tactics in their story telling.But peop=
le
are not expecting any kankaro parades here,it is to the best of our dear
country that this problem be solved.That the Jammeh regime must go should=
not
in anyway be compromised,now enough is enough.
For freedom
saiks
Friends,
the path to justice and win a case in court is long, and those to blame c=
an
be very difficult to "catch".
I got tears in my eyes when I read the short reports from Foroyaa of the
coroner=B4s inquest, and the family members short notice on facts. I coul=
d
imagine how it would be like if some of my friends stood there and asked
those simple questions, which give no room to express how you feel deep
inside.
But beside the X-rays had not a proper quality, what will be the next whe=
n
it comes to establish the facts. How is it handled in The Gambia ?
Is there a "neutral" police-investigation-team, who can collect all neede=
d
to bring justice to court and public ? Who has taken photos of where the=
eventual bullets are found and collected from the ground, in the
surroundings, so that the exact identification can be made on which bulle=
t
came from which weapon, in hands of who. Where was the person located, an=
d
who was the exact person who fired the shoot that caused the death. Is th=
ere
lab facilities in The Gambia where you can identify these things. Where a=
re
all the "evidences" held so no one can manipulate or touch them ? Or are=
evidences just been destroyed ? Are there taken steps to a "neutral"
investigation can take place.
When you have identified who had which weapon in his hand, you also has t=
o
identify that he fired the exact bullet which caused the death.
I=B4m asking simply because some of the news brought to us on Gambia-L ju=
st
after the incident said, that "official sources" clamed that weapons fire=
d
was in hands of some people in the crowd etc.
So are the weapons collected, identified and secured a safe place ?
How is the normal standard procedure in The Gambia in criminal cases ?
Is there no standard , is that why we have not got any answers to other
deaths in the state, and a lot of "rumours" ?
After identified the exact weapons and numbers of bullets, you can go bac=
k
to a chain-reaction and ask who fired, was there given signal, who ordere=
d,
who said what and how was it interpreted by the person who fired. Felt he=
himself threatened. How was the orders given and are there special routin=
es
or regulations to follow, when the police or military are send in action=
s
like the one in front of GTTI. And was the action after the rules, or did=
someone at place take his own command ?
We have now a student who witness how he saw and understand the situation=
(an officer talking on telephone and shortly after he saw the soldiers
attack the students. Who did he call, what was the question and answer an=
d
was was the orders given ?)
We hear there are soldiers who are now ashamed of being a part of the
action, or even a military person. But are they ready to stand up in cour=
t
and declare that "I fired my weapon directly into the crowd, ..... becaus=
e
of fear ? orders given ? ..." from whom and how was it given exactly.
When it comes to held someone responsible, will it be a military law-cour=
t,
held behind the barrack-walls (like the one against Colonel Ann), or wil=
l
it be a public one ? I=B4m sure that the law-suits against those who atta=
cked
the public and private buildings will be held in public. But what if the
incident of killings involve military ?
Can anyone from The Gambia tells me how is evidences from the incident ta=
ken
care of ? What have been done to secure the facts and evidences ?
And I hope that the students now released will be given a public excuse a=
nd
be compensated the unlawful detain, and torture. (Why should soldiers bea=
t
and kick the students all over their bodies. What turns some men in
uniforms to become inhuman sadists ?)
I could continue like this, but as one of my Gambian friends are telling =
me
- "Asbj=F8rn this is Gambia not Denmark", - which means that I can not ex=
pect
things to run normal, to the highest standard. (Which we even cannot obta=
in
here, when it comes to police-brutality)
But I will not accept anything but the best effort in a case like this.
This is exactly the time to say that we ask the highest standard, all
questions to be asked and answered, the right ones be prosecuted, the
justice to be done, no matter we like the answers to it or not.
It=B4s the constitutional rights of the citizen, it=B4s a way of drawing =
a line
in the sand, specially when it comes to discuss what is military tasks in=
the country ? Why was it not a police-task to ensure a demonstration went=
on
as planned. Why should military come out of the barracks because of a
student demonstration ?
It=B4s human right principles, it=B4s moral and dignity of a young nation=
on
trial here. It=B4s a chance for the authorities to put up a new standard,=
the
highest, which can serve as guideline for the future.
But most of all it=B4s for the respect of the persons who gave their live=
s,
and their families who will have to live with the lose of a dear son or
father. =
Asbj=F8rn Nordam
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 07:43:17 -0700
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From: Jamila Allston <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NY DEMONSTRATION - CORRECTED RALLY LOCATIONS
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Peace Brothers and Sisters of the Gambian-L
Following is a revised flyer for the May 2nd
demonstration indicating the corrected rally location.
I have attached a word attachment for downloading and
distribution. Hope to see you there!
Jamila
________________________________________
MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION
OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA
MOBILIZATION TO PROTEST
¨ THE GAMBIAN ARMY AND PARAMILITARY’S ATTACK ON
DEMONSTRATING STUDENTS, APRIL 10 & 11, 2000 RESULTING
IN NUMEROUS DEATHS AND INJURIES OF STUDENTS AND
CIVILIANS
¨ THE DENIAL OF THE BASIC CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF FREE
SPEECH AND ASSEMBLY
¨ THE GAMBIAN GOVERNMENT’S RELUCTANCE TO RELEASE
INFORMATION ABOUT MISSING OR DETAINED STUDENTS AND
OTHER POLITICAL PRISONERS
¨ THE GAMBIAN GOVERNMENT’S VIOLATIONS OF FUNDAMENTAL
HUMAN AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE GAMBIA
~~~~~~~~~~
TUESDAY, MAY 2nd
MOBILIZATION BEGINS: 10:00 A.M.
In Front Of
THE GAMBIAN MISSION
800 Second Avenue (42nd & 43rd Street)
New York, New York
DEMONSTRATION RALLY: 12:30 P.M.
March To The
UNITED NATIONS
Dag Hammarskjold Plaza
47th Street and First Avenue
New York, New York
~~~~~~~~~~
COME OUT. . . SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS TO RESTORE TRUE
DEMOCRACY AND PEACE TO THE GAMBIA !!
INFORMATION: (718) 842-6162
(718) 293-0500
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Subject: Re: Need embassy protest information/urgent!
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Esalami,
Following in an inline text version of the flyer as
well as an attachment (word doc) for distributon. I
am in the process of preparing the final press release
for distribution. If you forward me your
sister-in-law's name and fax number, I will make sure
she get a copy.
Thank you so much.
Jamila
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Peace Brothers and Sisters of the Gambian-L
Following is a revised flyer for the May 2nd
demonstration indicating the corrected rally location.
I have attached a word attachment for downloading and
distribution. Hope to see you there!
Jamila
______________________________________________________
MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION
OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA
MOBILIZATION TO PROTEST
¨ THE GAMBIAN ARMY AND PARAMILITARY’S ATTACK ON
DEMONSTRATING STUDENTS, APRIL 10 & 11, 2000 RESULTING
IN NUMEROUS DEATHS AND INJURIES OF STUDENTS AND
CIVILIANS
¨ THE DENIAL OF THE BASIC CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT OF FREE
SPEECH AND ASSEMBLY
¨ THE GAMBIAN GOVERNMENT’S RELUCTANCE TO RELEASE
INFORMATION ABOUT MISSING OR DETAINED STUDENTS AND
OTHER POLITICAL PRISONERS
¨ THE GAMBIAN GOVERNMENT’S VIOLATIONS OF FUNDAMENTAL
HUMAN AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS THROUGHOUT THE GAMBIA
~~~~~~~~~~
TUESDAY, MAY 2nd
MOBILIZATION BEGINS: 10:00 A.M.
In Front Of
THE GAMBIAN MISSION
800 Second Avenue (42nd & 43rd Street)
New York, New York
DEMONSTRATION RALLY: 12:30 P.M.
March To The
UNITED NATIONS
Dag Hammarskjold Plaza
47th Street and First Avenue
New York, New York
~~~~~~~~~~
COME OUT. . . SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS TO RESTORE TRUE
DEMOCRACY AND PEACE TO THE GAMBIA !!
INFORMATION: (718) 842-6162
(718) 293-0500
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> Please send me the petition letter and also forward
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> I am in contact with my sister-in-law @ NBC NY to
> cover this important event by the network.
> Thanks
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Mr. Janneh: Truly, other than knocking the IP address
of the sender, I don't believe there's a way round
keeping anybody from doing whatever they want to if
they so desire. It will be a waste of time
restricting an IP address coz nowadays, with some
little twicking, there are ways around that too. I
think we should take George's apology and move on with
what's at hand.
Essa
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:39:06 EDT
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Tombong,
I have read your reply and although I have a lot of comments to make about
the crocodile tears being shed by some, I will narrow my email to a few
issues you raised. First of all, you said:
"The coroner's inquest has started and as far as I can recall, this is the
first time such an inquest has been set up to find the truth."
The reason you cannot remember an inquest of this magnitude is because no
government in The Gambia has ever gunned down children in broad daylight and
then set out to deceive the public about what actually took place. If you
understood the piece I wrote a few days ago about the powers of the Coroner,
you will realize that this inquest actually has very little to do with
taking us to the heart of the matter …. WHO ORDERED THE FATAL SHOOTING OF
OUR CHILDREN?
You also mentioned that: "The commission of enquiry is already set and will
be announced next week."
May we ask what kind of powers this commission will be endowed with? Not
much to ask, is it? And also, what happened to the attorney general's
proposal to appoint the INDEPENDENT PROSECUTOR? Justice is meted out every
day in The criminal courts of The Gambia. Why not hoist the perpetrators of
these atrocities before the regular courts, like all common criminals?
Finally you said: "The President has said in his speech that he will not
leave any stone un-turned in the search for the truth, and those who are
responsible for this tragic day, will be dealt with accordingly. I do not
think we should rush into taking decisions and making judgement before all
the facts are laid in front of us. The justice we are all looking for will
be done. We need peace and justice and that we will have in The Gambia."
Well, I'll remind you of this statement another time in the near future. You
are right about our need for peace and justice. But let me say here that the
peace part will only come after Yaya is gone (BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY)
KB
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>Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 02:19:32 PDT
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>I do not see the contradictions you are talking about. There was nothing in
>the President's speech indicating that all detainees or detained students
>should be released. Despite what some of you think or are made to believe,
>students were being released either on bail or to the custody of their
>parents as far back as 13 April.
>
>Besides, there is a process through which all detainees must go through,
>whether they are detained legally or illegally. My last posting on this
>matter stated clearly that all students were released except 6 and this was
>before the President visited the wounded at the RVH. Their cases were being
>processed and presently there is no single student in detention because of
>the events of 10 & 11 April 2000.
>
>The President showed his compassion and expressed his sorrow and sympathy
>to
>the bereaved and wounded and this was clearly stated in his address to the
>nation and during his different meetings with opinion leaders, religious
>leaders and principles of the various schools. He will also be meeting with
>the students to hear from them directly, their side of the matter. The
>President was not in the country when this tragic event took place and it
>is
>only fair for him to listen to every possible side in order to get the true
>picture of what really happened. Believe me, the President wants to know
>the
>full story, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I do not see any
>thing wrong for the President to visit the wounded at RVH. He went there
>alone (not Secretary of State or security chief) to talk to the students in
>private and to wish them well. He went to visit them because he cares.
>
>The coroner's inquest has started and as far as I can recall, this is the
>first time such an inquest has been set up to find the truth. It is open to
>the public and no body will be prosecuted or intimidated because of
>evidence
>they gave in this inquest. The coroner is expected to submit his report by
>May 15th 2000.
>
>As the Attorney General stated on many occasions, it is the judiciary
>system
>which is on trial here and things should not only be done in a transparent
>manner, but Gambians should see it being done in a transparent manner. The
>commission of enquiry is already set and will be announced next week.
>Membership to such a commission should be made of people with good
>reputation, independent mind and people who are not pro or anti Jammeh, but
>people who would look for nothing but the truth. I know the members and I
>would have liked to reveal the names here but since it has not yet been
>announced by the Attorney General, I would wait for him to announce it to
>the public. You will definitely agree with the team that would make this
>commission.
>
>The President has said in his speech that he will not leave any stone
>un-turned in the search for the truth, and those who are responsible for
>this tragic day, will be dealt with accordingly. I do not think we should
>rush into taking decisions and making judgement before all the facts are
>laid in front of us. The justice we are all looking for will be done. We
>need peace and justice and that we will have in The Gambia.
>
>
>PEACE
>
>Tombong
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:58:31 EDT
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Tombong:
Are you isinuating that the president's absence during the shootings clears
him of any responsibility? The president has already told us that he was in
full contact with his advisers etc. so he must have been fully aware of the
situation back home. I dont think that the "shoot to kill" strategy that was
adopted would have been carried out without the president's orders (using
live bullets equals "shoot to kill" in my book). Besides even if he didnt
give the order to shoot, he is still culpable since he is in charge of those
who did or gave the order to shoot! If the orders didnt come from him then
there was twas serious lack of leadership during that tragic incident!
If all the killings had taken place on the same day then I can maybe (a big
maybe) understand that maybe the orders didnt come from him, but some
students were later killed in the provinces. Are you telling me that people
were shot twice on different occasions and locations at different times,
without the presidents orders or knowledge?
It'd be a big mistake if the government underestimates people's resolve
regarding the killings. Bottomline is we want whoever was responsible for
this barbaric act to pay for it to the fullest extent of the law whether it
is the president or someone else who works for him! But again what if the
president is responsible, do you honestly think that he'd pay for it to the
fullest extent of the law? :-)
On the issue of those jailed having to go through a process, I respectively
disagree. If an arrest is legal then, yes they'll have to go through due
process but not when the arrest is illegal! An illegal arrest should simply
not take place in the first place. If an arrest is known to be illegal then
the person(s) should be freed immediately!
Respectfully
Pope
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:28:46 EDT
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Great, The least we can do for our beloved children who were gunned down
in broad daylight, is to put these people on the spot and bring out their
inconsistencies. We must do our part to get to the bottom of this
warrantless massacre. Anything less on our part, will be uncivilized. We
must get rid of YAYA BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. Am also in for using the
judicial process if that is what it would take. If it is also going to take
Colly, Jatta, etc. to get rid of him ....fine with me too.
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>Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:58:31 EDT
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>Tombong:
>
>Are you isinuating that the president's absence during the shootings clears
>him of any responsibility? The president has already told us that he was in
>full contact with his advisers etc. so he must have been fully aware of the
>situation back home. I dont think that the "shoot to kill" strategy that
>was
>adopted would have been carried out without the president's orders (using
>live bullets equals "shoot to kill" in my book). Besides even if he didnt
>give the order to shoot, he is still culpable since he is in charge of
>those
>who did or gave the order to shoot! If the orders didnt come from him then
>there was twas serious lack of leadership during that tragic incident!
>
>If all the killings had taken place on the same day then I can maybe (a big
>maybe) understand that maybe the orders didnt come from him, but some
>students were later killed in the provinces. Are you telling me that people
>were shot twice on different occasions and locations at different times,
>without the presidents orders or knowledge?
>
>It'd be a big mistake if the government underestimates people's resolve
>regarding the killings. Bottomline is we want whoever was responsible for
>this barbaric act to pay for it to the fullest extent of the law whether it
>is the president or someone else who works for him! But again what if the
>president is responsible, do you honestly think that he'd pay for it to the
>fullest extent of the law? :-)
>
>On the issue of those jailed having to go through a process, I respectively
>disagree. If an arrest is legal then, yes they'll have to go through due
>process but not when the arrest is illegal! An illegal arrest should simply
>not take place in the first place. If an arrest is known to be illegal then
>the person(s) should be freed immediately!
>
>Respectfully
>
>Pope
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:19:34 -0400
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Subject: Pa Dacosta Speaks
The Inependent Published Friday, 28 April, 2000
Pa Dacosta interviewed
Who ordered the shooting, he asks
Edward JL D'Coster, commonly known as Pa Dacosta, has demanded that Gambians
must be told who was behind the order to use live ammunition on demonstrating
students resulting in deaths and injuries.
Pa D'Coster, presenter of the famous Youth Show aired over Radio 1FM every
Saturday, told The Independent in an exclusive interview that as an ex-soldier
and combatant, he is fully aware that 'obey and complain is a law in the army'
and that live ammunition is only supplied to combatants in the theatre of
operation.
The former arts teacher was reiterating his position in a recent programme on
Radio 1FM in which he criticised the handling of the student demonstrations.
He said he believed that the 'soldiers who killed the students were given the
order to do so.' He dismissed as 'totally untrue and unfounded' the suggestion
that student demonstrators broke into police armouries and secured guns, which
they used to shoot their fellow students. He said such a statement is
ridiculous and unbelievable, and warned that responsible people should desist
from such 'untrue' statements.
He said that the location of police and military armouries is kept secret and
confidential and that the keys to open them cannot possibly be located by
civilians. Mr. D'Coster said the students took to the streets with a common
stance, protesting against the death of Ebrima Barry allegedly in the hands of
fire officers at the Brikama fire station and the alleged rape of a 13-year-old
female student. He believed it is inconceivable that the students turned against
themselves. The government statement on who started the shooting cannot be
believed, he emphasised.
He said certain senior government officials spoke against the students because
they wanted to secure their positions in the government and described such
individuals as 'ungodly, greedy, selfish and hypocritical.'
He said since it is the primary duty of the army and the police to maintain law
and order and to secure the lives and properties of citizens, it is unfortunate
if they fail in their duty by shooting the people they are supposed to protect.
He described the action of the security forces as 'cruel, odd, and hopeless'.
He said if this trend continuous, The Gambia would be a 'youthless country with
an uncertain future.' He said God did not give license to anyone to kill his
fellow being and noted that although the Gambia is a Muslim country, it is not
an Islamic state and that people should be faithful and respect one another at
all times.
Pa D'Coster said the youths are the future of this country and that it was
improper to 'kill future presidents, doctors, teachers and parents, imams and
priests.' He stressed that as a former schoolteacher and parent, he is upset
about the killings and felt that it was important to voice it out in the open.
'I also welcome anyone who wants to kill me for speaking the truth. I will
accept to become the first martyr of this country,' he boldly added.
He also noted that the good name and image of The Gambia is being tarnished by
the repressive nature of the security forces. He said 'such non-peaceful
actions' should be roundly condemned and that under no circumstances should such
action be condoned.
Mr. D'Coster reiterated that the soldiers and the police are not enemies of the
people and that he was not out to point an accusing finger at anyone. He
believed he was speaking in the spirit of true justice, which would bring to
book those responsible for the student deaths.
On his life career, Pa D'Coster explained that he went to Senegal in 1937 for
national service, trained there in 1939 and was among those mobilised for battle
in Southern France during the Second World War. He said he was the first
volunteer to hand himself over to the British army. He said that as a dress
dispenser, he was taken to the Royal Victoria Hospital and after some training,
he joined the first Governor General Sir Farimang Singhateh at the sanatorium
previously known as the Infectious Disease Hospital (IDH). According to him he
was later in charge when Mr. Singhateh left. He added that he was also in
charge of the Medical Inspection Room (MIR) and worked with Dr. DC Anot, HRH
Renith, Captain MA Lucky and Captain Joseph Westin. He explained that after
independence, he also worked in various schools within the country. He said
that most of his students are responsible people today and therefore should not
sit idly by and witness 'such an unwarranted situation'.
After his radio programme, Mr. D'Coster was highly commended by listeners of the
programme some of whom thought his words were the most comprehensive and exact
in the wake of the student unrest.
This reporter spoke to people from different walks of lives all of whom
commended Pa D'Coster for 'hitting the nail on the head'.
Haddy Saine, a businesswoman, said if The Gambia was able to get five of the
likes of Pa D'Coster, the country would move forward. 'He is a man of integrity
and honesty and I pray for him to have long life and good health,' she added.
Mot Ceesay, a technician, said previously, he thought of Pa D'Coster as an
apologist for the government, but noted that he was surprised that the old man
was bold enough to speak the truth. 'I am totally impressed by his truthful
statements,' he said.
Alhajie Lamin Mbow, a parent, said Pa D'Coster is the sort of person God
admires. 'Most unlike our so-called religious leaders, he is a man of truth and
he does it for neither money nor wealth,' Mr. Mbow said. 'Students are the
national assets and should be highly respected,' he said. 'Who gave the orders
for the killing of the innocent students, is a question for the authorities of
the day,' he suggested.
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Mr. Beran Jeng:
Thanks for forwarding this excellent article on Pa D'Coster. This is
strong evidence that many Gambians know exactly what transpired on the
gloomy days of April 10 & 11, and cannot be fooled.
I salute Pa D'coster for telling it as it is/was for all to hear.
Jammeh, his propagandists and intellectual apologists are like the
characters in "The Emperor's New Clothes." It takes a person like Pa
D'Coster to tell them that the Emperor did not have new clothes on, but
was instead, Naked!
Abdoulaye
No justice, no peace!
Jammeh Must Go!
"Jeng, Beran" wrote:
>
> The Inependent Published Friday, 28 April, 2000
>
> Pa Dacosta interviewed
> Who ordered the shooting, he asks
>
> Edward JL D'Coster, commonly known as Pa Dacosta, has demanded that Gambians
> must be told who was behind the order to use live ammunition on demonstrating
> students resulting in deaths and injuries.
>
> Pa D'Coster, presenter of the famous Youth Show aired over Radio 1FM every
> Saturday, told The Independent in an exclusive interview that as an ex-soldier
> and combatant, he is fully aware that 'obey and complain is a law in the army'
> and that live ammunition is only supplied to combatants in the theatre of
> operation.
>
> The former arts teacher was reiterating his position in a recent programme on
> Radio 1FM in which he criticised the handling of the student demonstrations.
>
> He said he believed that the 'soldiers who killed the students were given the
> order to do so.' He dismissed as 'totally untrue and unfounded' the suggestion
> that student demonstrators broke into police armouries and secured guns, which
> they used to shoot their fellow students. He said such a statement is
> ridiculous and unbelievable, and warned that responsible people should desist
> from such 'untrue' statements.
>
> He said that the location of police and military armouries is kept secret and
> confidential and that the keys to open them cannot possibly be located by
> civilians. Mr. D'Coster said the students took to the streets with a common
> stance, protesting against the death of Ebrima Barry allegedly in the hands of
> fire officers at the Brikama fire station and the alleged rape of a 13-year-old
> female student. He believed it is inconceivable that the students turned against
> themselves. The government statement on who started the shooting cannot be
> believed, he emphasised.
>
> He said certain senior government officials spoke against the students because
> they wanted to secure their positions in the government and described such
> individuals as 'ungodly, greedy, selfish and hypocritical.'
>
> He said since it is the primary duty of the army and the police to maintain law
> and order and to secure the lives and properties of citizens, it is unfortunate
> if they fail in their duty by shooting the people they are supposed to protect.
> He described the action of the security forces as 'cruel, odd, and hopeless'.
>
> He said if this trend continuous, The Gambia would be a 'youthless country with
> an uncertain future.' He said God did not give license to anyone to kill his
> fellow being and noted that although the Gambia is a Muslim country, it is not
> an Islamic state and that people should be faithful and respect one another at
> all times.
>
> Pa D'Coster said the youths are the future of this country and that it was
> improper to 'kill future presidents, doctors, teachers and parents, imams and
> priests.' He stressed that as a former schoolteacher and parent, he is upset
> about the killings and felt that it was important to voice it out in the open.
> 'I also welcome anyone who wants to kill me for speaking the truth. I will
> accept to become the first martyr of this country,' he boldly added.
>
> He also noted that the good name and image of The Gambia is being tarnished by
> the repressive nature of the security forces. He said 'such non-peaceful
> actions' should be roundly condemned and that under no circumstances should such
> action be condoned.
>
> Mr. D'Coster reiterated that the soldiers and the police are not enemies of the
> people and that he was not out to point an accusing finger at anyone. He
> believed he was speaking in the spirit of true justice, which would bring to
> book those responsible for the student deaths.
>
> On his life career, Pa D'Coster explained that he went to Senegal in 1937 for
> national service, trained there in 1939 and was among those mobilised for battle
> in Southern France during the Second World War. He said he was the first
> volunteer to hand himself over to the British army. He said that as a dress
> dispenser, he was taken to the Royal Victoria Hospital and after some training,
> he joined the first Governor General Sir Farimang Singhateh at the sanatorium
> previously known as the Infectious Disease Hospital (IDH). According to him he
> was later in charge when Mr. Singhateh left. He added that he was also in
> charge of the Medical Inspection Room (MIR) and worked with Dr. DC Anot, HRH
> Renith, Captain MA Lucky and Captain Joseph Westin. He explained that after
> independence, he also worked in various schools within the country. He said
> that most of his students are responsible people today and therefore should not
> sit idly by and witness 'such an unwarranted situation'.
>
> After his radio programme, Mr. D'Coster was highly commended by listeners of the
> programme some of whom thought his words were the most comprehensive and exact
> in the wake of the student unrest.
>
> This reporter spoke to people from different walks of lives all of whom
> commended Pa D'Coster for 'hitting the nail on the head'.
>
> Haddy Saine, a businesswoman, said if The Gambia was able to get five of the
> likes of Pa D'Coster, the country would move forward. 'He is a man of integrity
> and honesty and I pray for him to have long life and good health,' she added.
>
> Mot Ceesay, a technician, said previously, he thought of Pa D'Coster as an
> apologist for the government, but noted that he was surprised that the old man
> was bold enough to speak the truth. 'I am totally impressed by his truthful
> statements,' he said.
>
> Alhajie Lamin Mbow, a parent, said Pa D'Coster is the sort of person God
> admires. 'Most unlike our so-called religious leaders, he is a man of truth and
> he does it for neither money nor wealth,' Mr. Mbow said. 'Students are the
> national assets and should be highly respected,' he said. 'Who gave the orders
> for the killing of the innocent students, is a question for the authorities of
> the day,' he suggested.
>
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Well said, brother Saiks. I think our people are much more politically sophisticated that they were before Yahya Jammeh's regime.
As for the shouts of "by any means necessary" from various subscribers on the list, I am still sharply torn in regard to the use of violence to forcibly oust the present regime. It would be absolutely foolhardy to think that Yahya Jammeh will lose a free and fair election in The Gambia. So, for real, what alternatives do we have?
I am of the sincere belief that the GNA and the paramilitary thugs are a joke. After all, they were sent running with their tails between their legs by the student demonstrators. A tactically effective bomb on the state house in Kanilai, the barracks in Brikama, and Farrafenni respectively will immediately bring forth an unconditional surrender from the murderers in power. But this is just a theoretical solution from an extremely pissed off Gambian.
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Hello Saiks,
thank you for information. I have never doubted that life bullets were used=
.
But what I fear for is that the weapons are not confiscated, kept by
"neutral" police-investigators , that other facts will not be protected, so
they can document the whole incident back to the death of Ebrima Barry and
hour after hour from that moment of.
When the police are under trial here in Denmark we have a special corps
which will make the investigations. The same if it=B4s the military under
trial. Is that the same in The Gambia ? Has the paramilitary persons
involved on the 10.-11. april - like the students-been held isolated until
they were questioned on the incident ? And by whom ?
Now I will surely look forward to get the names of the elected commission
of enquiry. Hopefully they are capable people, because they are up against
something very BIG, and the entire Gambia and gambian communities all over
will study every question asked, every answer given, every stone turned, an=
d
we will see which stones they "forget" to turn. I hope they will not trembl=
e
with fear for what it will ends up with. But no matter what such a
commission of enquiry comes up with, I think that the families of the
deceased should still ensure their rights to take the cases to a civil
court. Even how neutral the commission will be, it can not substitute a
legal process, my opinion.
Let me say that I=B4m not expecting that it will end up making the President
responsible for the actions. I don=B4t belive there is a directly chain of
responsibilities or orders from him (the president) to the man who for some
reason pulled the trigger that day. If so I=B4ll be very surprised.
But indirectly the standard of moral sat, the orders, regulations given,
will at the end of a long line leads back to the standards, rules, laws and
regulations sat by the President, the Parliament, the politicians, the
establishment. Those standards which in many situations have lead to
terror, harassment, torture, the control of the people by NIA and their
helpers, and which climaxed in the massacre on civilians 10.-11. april. On
"the day of judgement" (hopefully election day) justice will take those
directly or indirectly responsible for the situation in The Gambia has gone
so out of human and democratic order. Time is running fast and I=B4m not sure
if they can avoid their "destiny", maybe only by "miracles". That is why I=B4=
m
also very interested in watching if those in power like other places in the
world will try to postpone election - "judgements day".
Or they have now learned a lesson and from tomorrow start to do things much
better for the benefit of the people they have the privilege to serve.
(I=B4m not too optimistic when I learned from information on Gambia-L that th=
e
parliament some months back for several days could not make decisions, ther=
e
was no quorum. Then I thought: " how embarrassing - is this respect for the
democratic system ? are they turning The Gambia into a banana-republic ?")
Like I=B4m interested in knowing if the alternative is better ? Or will the
standard sat just be followed by the next team in office ? How has the
alternative team started to prepare for "judgements day" and the first hour
after. As an outsider I can sit on the sideline and watch.
Still I=B4m so filled with anger. It=B4s so unfair that children and students
should give up lives just because "someone" didn=B4t think students should be
allowed to demonstrate. It was not an uprising , a demonstration to
overthrow the state, the president, the government, but just that they
wanted justice in two cases to be found. They expressed what many gambians
felt, that justice was trampled underfoot, the legal system not well
functioning. Who misjudged the situation ? Or is it like that in The Gambia
by now, that all demonstrations must be cancelled, postponed, or people
terrorfied so much that they don=B4t dare to express their dissatisfaction.
Comments from Asbj=F8rn Nordam
=20
on 28/04/00 16:05, saiks samateh at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Asbj?rn Nordam ,
> In the radio talk show programme that followed after the incident,people =
were
> asking almost the same questions .I can tell you that by accident I have =
seen
> people picking up bullets that have been fired and as you can read also f=
rom
> the reports Drs have produced bullets that have been found in the bodies =
of
> the students.The lies that life bullets were not use by the military,is n=
ow a
> rotten story,they have now change tactics in their story telling.But peop=
le
> are not expecting any kankaro parades here,it is to the best of our dear
> country that this problem be solved.That the Jammeh regime must go should=
not
> in anyway be compromised,now enough is enough.
>=20
> For freedom
> saiks
>=20
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>
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Mr. Jow,
Am equally miffed about what is going on in our country. Please don't
discount the resolve and determination of some of us to get rid of Yaya BY
ANY MEANS NECESSARY. People who are advocating waiting for elections and the
politics of appeasement, I just refer you to what is currently going on in
countries like Sierra Leone. When you get rid of tyrants like Yaya who have
very little regard for the lifes and liberties of our citizens, you do so in
a decisive way. If not, they will just retreat to the bush, like the cowards
they are, and cause havoc in the country. It would be a simple and welcomed
solution to our problems if Yaya is defeated in a free and fair election and
he leaves peacefully with his loot; or like Abacha, he dies in his sleep; or
like Nelson Mandela, he retires from office. As you can see, none of these
scenarios are realistic or would solve our current predicament. The massacre
on April 10 & 11 of innocent school children should be the final straw. WE
MUST GET RID OF YAYA BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. I won't even rule out your
'theoretical solution'.
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>
>Well said, brother Saiks. I think our people are much more politically
>sophisticated that they were before Yahya Jammeh's regime.
>As for the shouts of "by any means necessary" from various subscribers on
>the list, I am still sharply torn in regard to the use of violence to
>forcibly oust the present regime. It would be absolutely foolhardy to think
>that Yahya Jammeh will lose a free and fair election in The Gambia. So,
>for real, what alternatives do we have?
>
>I am of the sincere belief that the GNA and the paramilitary thugs are a
>joke. After all, they were sent running with their tails between their
>legs by the student demonstrators. A tactically effective bomb on the
>state house in Kanilai, the barracks in Brikama, and Farrafenni
>respectively will immediately bring forth an unconditional surrender from
>the murderers in power. But this is just a theoretical solution from an
>extremely pissed off Gambian.
>
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Zimbabwe Makes Its Point In Land TalksZimbabwe Makes Its Point In Land =
Talks
April 28, 2000=20
Desmond Davies
PANA Correspondent=20
LONDON, UK (PANA) - The British government has "reluctantly" accepted =
that it has a responsibility to contribute to Zimbabwe's land reform =
programme, the Zimbabwean local government and national housing =
minister, John Nkomo, said Friday.
Britain had also agreed that it was bound by the conclusions of a 1998 =
donors' conference on farm resettlement, he added.
Nkomo was speaking at the Zimbabwean High Commission in London as leader =
of his country's delegation that held talks with the British government =
on land reform in Zimbabwe.
Both sides met for eight hours Thursday in a bid to resolve the land =
issue, which has escalated into the occupation by war veterans of land =
owned by white farmers.
Nkomo said that the delegation came to London after British Foreign =
Minister Robin Cook offered an invitation to President Robert Mugabe, at =
the recent Africa-Europe summit in Cairo, to send a team to discuss land =
reform.
He said this had been a positive move on the part of the Labour Party =
government, which had been very reluctant to abide by the Lancaster =
House Agreement of 1979, which led to Zimbabwe's independence in 1980.
The Labour government's reluctance was founded on the fact that a =
Conservative government signed the agreement, he added.
"What we are saying is that the Lancaster House Agreement is binding on =
any British government," Nkomo said.
During the meeting with British officials, he stressed that the root =
cause of the current impasse on land reform was the failure of donors to =
fully finance the programme that was agreed in 1998.
"There has been no donor support for land acquisition and infrastructure =
on resettlement schemes and no progress made by non-state actors to =
deliver land in support of resettlement through the so-called =
complimentary approaches," he said.
"Nonetheless, my government is hopeful that the current negotiations =
between itself and other stakeholders will result in greater support to =
the land resettlement component of the land reform programme," Nkomo =
added.
Cook told the Zimbabwean delegation that there was 36 million pounds =
sterling for land reform.
"But it must be land reform on the basis on the principles that we and =
the government of Zimbabwe agreed to in 1998," he said.
Cook added that this would be "on the basis of a fair price to farmers", =
transparency "and should benefit the rural poor who have no land."
Nkomo later told journalists that it was wrong for the British to =
complain that land already allocated had gone to civil servants and =
government ministers, saying that only one minister had benefited from =
this.
"Less than 10 percent of the land has gone to civil servants or =
ministers," he said.
He pointed out that the current white owners of farms were actually =
former Rhodesian government ministers, civil servants, senior army =
officers, and ex-members of the police force.
"All we are saying is for the British to live up to their =
responsibilities," Nkomo said.=20
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Conservative government signed the agreement, he added.
<P>"What we are saying is that the Lancaster House Agreement is binding =
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<P>During the meeting with British officials, he stressed that the root =
cause of=20
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finance=20
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<P>"There has been no donor support for land acquisition and =
infrastructure on=20
resettlement schemes and no progress made by non-state actors to deliver =
land in=20
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he=20
said.
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between=20
itself and other stakeholders will result in greater support to the land =
resettlement component of the land reform programme," Nkomo added.
<P>Cook told the Zimbabwean delegation that there was 36 million pounds =
sterling=20
for land reform.
<P>"But it must be land reform on the basis on the principles that we =
and the=20
government of Zimbabwe agreed to in 1998," he said.
<P>Cook added that this would be "on the basis of a fair price to =
farmers",=20
transparency "and should benefit the rural poor who have no land."
<P>Nkomo later told journalists that it was wrong for the British to =
complain=20
that land already allocated had gone to civil servants and government =
ministers,=20
saying that only one minister had benefited from this.
<P>"Less than 10 percent of the land has gone to civil servants or =
ministers,"=20
he said.
<P>He pointed out that the current white owners of farms were actually =
former=20
Rhodesian government ministers, civil servants, senior army officers, =
and=20
ex-members of the police force.
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responsibilities,"=20
Nkomo said.=20
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>
> > > The English Language.....
> > >
> > > There is no egg in the eggplant, no ham in the hamburger and neither
> > > Pine nor apple in the pineapple. English muffins were not invented in
> > > England, French fries were not invented in France.
> > >
> > > We sometimes take English for granted. But if we examine its
> > > paradoxes we find that Quicksand takes you down slowly, boxing rings
are
> > > square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig. If
> >writers
> > > write, how come fingers don't fing.
> > >
> > > If the plural of tooth is teeth, shouldn't the plural of phone booth
> > > Be phone beeth. If the teacher taught, why didn't the preacher
> > > praught.
> > >
> > > If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what the heck does a humanitarian
eat!?
> > >
> > > Why do people recite at a play yet play at a recital? Park on
> > > Driveways and drive on parkways. You have to marvel at the unique
lunacy
> > > of
> > > a Language where a house can burn up as it burns down and in which you
> > > fill
> > > in a form by filling it out. And a bell is only heard once it goes.
> > >
> > > If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular? Why is the man who
invests
> > > all your
> > > money called a broker? Why is a person who plays the piano called a
> > > pianist, but a person who drives a race car not called a racist?
> > >
> > >
> > > If horrific means to make horrible, does Terrific mean to make
terrible?
> > > Why isn't 11 pronounced onety one? If lawyers are disbarred and
> >clergymen
> > > defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted,
> >musicians
> > > denoted, cowboys deranged, models
> > > deposed, tree surgeons debarked and dry cleaners depressed? Why is it
> >that
> > >
> > > if someone tells you that there are 1 billion stars in the universe
you
> > > will believe them, but if they tell you a wall has wet paint you will
> >have
> > >
> > > to touch it to be sure? If you take an Oriental person and spin him
> >around
> > >
> > > several times, does he become disoriented? If people from Poland are
> > > called
> > > "Poles," why aren't people from Holland called "Holes?"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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ENGLISH LANGUAGE
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> >>The English Language
> >>--------------------
> >>We polish the Polish furniture.
> >>
> >>He could lead if he would get the lead out.
> >>
> >>A farm can produce produce.
> >>
> >>The dump was so full it had to refuse refuse.
> >>
> >>The soldier decided to desert in the desert.
> >>
> >>The present is a good time to present the present.
> >>
> >>At the Army base, a bass was painted on the
> >>head of a bass drum.
> >>
> >>The dove dove into the bushes.
> >>
> >>I did not object to the object.
> >>
> >>The insurance for the invalid was invalid.
> >>
> >>The bandage was wound around the wound.
> >>
> >>There was a row among the oarsmen about how
> >>to row.
> >>
> >>They were too close to the door to close it.
> >>
> >>The buck does funny things when the does are present.
> >>
> >>They sent a sewer down to stitch the tear in the sewer
> >>line.
> >>
> >>To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
> >>
> >>The wind was too strong to wind the sail.
> >>
> >>After a number of Novocain injections, my jaw got number.
> >>
> >>I shed a tear when I saw the tear in my clothes.
> >>
> >>I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.
> >>
> >>How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?
> >>
> >>I spent last evening evening out a pile of dirt.
> >>
> >>
> >>========================================
> >>
> >>Nice Tip!
> >>--------------------
> >>A man takes his place in the theater, but his seat is too
> >>far from the stage.
> >>
> >>He whispers to the usher, "This is a mystery, and I have to
> >>watch a mystery close up. Get me a better seat, and I'll give
> >>you a handsome tip."
> >>
> >>The usher moves him into the second row, and the man hands
> >>the usher a quarter.
> >>
> >>The usher looks at the quarter, leans over and whispers,
> >>"The wife did it."
> >>
> >>========================================
> >>
> >>Heel!
> >>--------------------
> >>A Christian couple felt it important to own an equally
> >>fundamentally Christian pet. So, they went shopping. At a
> >>kennel specializing in this particular breed, they found a
> >>dog they liked quite a lot. When they asked the dog to fetch
> >>the Bible, he did it in a flash. When they instructed him to
> >>look up Psalm 23, he complied equally fast, using his paws
> >>with dexterity. They were impressed, purchased the animal,
> >>and went home.
> >>
> >>That night they had friends over. They were so proud of
> >>their new fundamentalist dog and his major skills, they
> >>called in the dog and showed
> >>off a little.
> >>
> >>The friends were impressed and asked whether the dog was
> >>able to do any of the usual dog tricks as well. This stopped
> >>the couple cold, as they hadn't
> >>thought about "normal" tricks.
> >>
> >>Well, they said. "Let's try this out." Once more they called
> >>the dog and they clearly pronounced the command, "Heel!"
> >>
> >>Quick as a wink, the dog jumped up, put his paw on the man's
> >>forehead, closed his eyes in concentration and bowed his
> >>head.
> >>
> >>========================================
> >>
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Saiks,
Junkunda is an old comrade of mine. Please say hi to him for me and it is
great that the old left is being revived. We must all speak with one voice
against Fascism that Jammeh has wrought on the Gambian People.
Hamjatta Kanteh
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Thanks
If you do not mind can you contact me directly to help me out
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> Habib,
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> You only need a computer mic or you can use the regular phone.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Beran jeng
> Voice mail reads
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> Mr. Jeng, Do you need any special microphone /
> can you use it for your regular telephone?
> Thanks
> Habib
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Thanks
<br>If you do not mind can you contact me directly to help me out
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Habib,
<p>You only need a computer mic or you can use the regular phone.
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<br>"Gambia list this is a test"
<br>Mr. Jeng, Do you need any special microphone /
<br>can you use it for your regular telephone?
<br>Thanks
<br>Habib
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> FROM WASHINGTON POST:
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> Textile Dispute May Derail Trade Bill:
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> World in Brief:
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> NY TIMES:
> Britain Ties Money for Zimbabwe to the End of Land Seizures:
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> More Cult Victims Unearthed in Uganda:
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> LA TIMES:
> On a Positive note: Crenshaw students hope to read their way to Africa
>
> http://www.latimes.com/communities/news/south_central/20000428/tcr0001
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congratulations Buharry, that is indeed great news. May Allah give her long
life and prosperity. Enjoy being with her as much as possible because they
grow so fast.
God bless
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Courage is a good thing to have, and Pa definitely has it. His position
should serve as food for thought for all those hypocrites scurrying to issue
statements to condemn the students, or line up to form hypocritical
delegations with the obvious reason being only to save themselves. I hope
that other courageous people in Ganbia will follow suit.
Jabou Joh
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Pa Dacosta interviewed
Who ordered the shooting, he asks
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must be told who was behind the order to use live ammunition on demonstrating
students resulting in deaths and injuries.
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Katim,
Thanks for responding to my question. Your point is well taken.
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Hamjatta,
What makes you think that I'm a Jammeh supporter? You've no clue whatsoever
regarding my political affiliation. I'm NOT a Jammeh supporter nor
Anti-Jammeh. You're DEAD wrong about that. I Do Not support a Military
Government and Never will. Once a soldier, Always will. I did believed a
change from The Jawara Regime was necessary and overdue. For your records,
I'm a Liberal Democrat and hope you understand what it means.
I believe in fairness and truth. I'll always comment where necessary. It's
better for you to talk about things you know and not to speculate.
Watch out.
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EB,
Thanks for clarifying that you are neither anti Jammeh nor pro Jammeh. I wonder how you can squeeze yopurself in between this two unedifying positions COMFORTABLY. But that is your prerogative. And again my regards for stating you are a Liberal Democrat and not a Fascist supporter. Good luck on your fence sitting.
My speculation was based solely on your insinuations and interventions in certain cases involving some Jammeh supporters and the stances you have taken.
Anyone who believes in Liberal Democracy or is a Liberal worth his/her salt, would stop fence sitting and join the anti Jammeh campaign.
Many thanks for your timely clarification.
Good Morning.
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Mr. Sidibeh:
I will take an exception to your scenario. I was among those Gambians who
opposed a military takeover of a legitimate government on July 22, 1994. I
denounced the illegal government and asked for the dictator to resign during
my meeting with Tombong Saidy at The Gambian embassy in Washington, DC.
I sent letters of resignation to yahya jemus and his entire cabinet to resign
immediately. I know numerous Gambian who were sad on the unfortunate day of
July 22. It is logic that you stop generalizing about the support the
dictator received. In fact, numerous Gambians were afraid to criticize the
dictator for fear of reprisals.
It is unfortunate that the dictator has continued to divide us on tribal
lines. He has slowly replaced senior members of the armed forces with his
ethnic tribe. This is wrong and unconstitutional. He has barred several
politicians from political activities. He has looted our treasury. He has
built a multi million dalasis mansion. in Kaninlai. He has moved the
administrative capital to his native village. He is supplying electricity to
the residence of his village 24 hours a day, seven days a week and 365 days a
year at the expense of The Gambian people. He has built an air strip in
Kaninlai. He has dismissed innocent Gambian civil servants as if he his
changing his underwear. He has approved the slaughter of innocent Gambian
school children.
I can go on and on with the dictator's lack of understanding and stupidity.
Where is The Gambia heading to? What should we do as members of the
opposition? Are we not tired of the events in The Gambia? Let us act now.
Let us unite for a better and prosperous Gambia. The dictator has know
intention to relinguish power. Let us not fool of ourselves.
The dictator must go. Dictator yahya jemus, let my people go.
Comrade,
Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh
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the initiative to establish a memorial foundation together with other peopl=
e
in the Gambia, such as Sheriff Bojang, Sarraing Ceesay, Bella Bala-Gaye,
Deyda Hydara , Jack Njie, Amie Joof .
The foundation is establish to support the late Omar Barrows family.
Ancha is acting.=20
Last time I was in The Gambia I met her once at RVH, and just very short
because she was so busy with blood analyzes. As you maybe know she returned
to the Gambia after years of studies abroad, and started to serve at RVH at
the beginning as a volunteer, because there was such a need of a person wit=
h
her skills and knowledge and she would like to do something.
And Ancha is together with some of our other friends from this gambia-l als=
o
serving as GESO Gambia branch.
She certainly serve as one of my role models for a new Gambia.
Ancha keep up all the fine things you have started. I will surely give you
my fully support. BRAVO.
Asbj=F8rn Nordam
PS: I don=B4t know how it is in The Gambia, but I expect that people who are
illegal kept by the authorities, and a family-father who has been killed by
the authorities will be compensated fully. If it later will be proved that
there was no reason to shoot and kill Omar Barrow, I expect that the
government will fully compensate the family the loss of a bread-winner.=20
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Fellow Gambians, We the patriotic members of ALLAH'S
ARMY have the particular pleasure to inform you that
we are ready and will sacrifice our lives and
resources to the RESTORATION OF PEACE AND TRANQUILITY
to our beautiful country the Gambia. Our beloved
country has lost its innocence: A COUNTRY WHICH USED
TO BE TONGUE AND MOUTH of the whole of Africa is no
longer part of the family of nations. In stead, our
own Black leaders are even worst than the White Racist
leaders in South Africa who used to slaughter our
brothers and sisters during the days of apartheid.
Now, in the new mellinium, when we hope to rule
ourselves and enjoy tremendous peace and tranquility,
our hopes are dashed and our lives taken by the very
black leaders we trust. Could you imagine that YAYA
JAMMEH, THE MANSA OF KANINLAI, the so-called pious
muslim hiding behind the muslim turban and the
so-called mosque he built at our people's state House
actually gave orders to kill our kids who are the
future leaders of our country.But time will tell. Time
has now ripe to consider very seriously in
implementing the fundamental duty of WE THE ALLAH'S
ARMY. And we will soon act. We are warning all those
so-called mouth piece and puppets who currently take
side with the evil administration to watch out,
because when time comes, they would be counted and pay
a heavy price.
YAYA would never ever allow to be defeated in a free
and fair election. We know him very well. It would be
blood-shed if YAYA will go. He will try to clinch into
power at all cost. But before our beautiful country
will be like LIBERIA, SIERRA LEONE OR RWANDA, We THE
ALLAH'S ARMY must rectify the circumstance.
MAY ALLAH, THE ALMIGHTY BLESS OUR MISSION, AND BLESS
ALL OF YOU.
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Fellows,
Pa Dacosta is indeed a man of God. He says what God wants, the truth.
Pa has said it all, what Gambians and the world at large want to know is
the answer to this one question "who gave the orders to kill these unarmed
students?"
To stand out and speak the truth when it is most urgent to speak it is
definitely
a measure of how one is close to Gods, this is what Pa has done. His name
will
surely go down in our history books as the man who uttered the truth when it
was
so much imperative...
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Hamjatta,
Let's move on and contributes to the development of The Gambia. That's what
we all want to see happen and not He says and She says. We are beyond that.
Case close pal.
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The Njie family of Serrekunda Lion house regret to announce the death of
their father Momar Njie Caboraneh. He was 104 years and must be one of
the oldest persons in the greater Banjul area. Pa Momar ,until his death
was healthy and active. He was a God fearing person and had time to read
his koran and preached the gospel of the holy prophet . He was a
historian who was knowledgeable on peoples family connections. Our
condolence to the families Alieu Njie, Scout Commissioner, Lie fish, Mrs
Mass Khah, Matty Njie, Wa Njie and the rest of the family. May his soul
rest in perfect peace .
Chi Jamma,
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FWD
THE TEN VIRTUES OF THE ANCIENT AFRICANS
1. Control of Thought
Don't react, analyze the situation. You must bring about order if there is
none.
2. Control of Action
A direct connection to right thinking. Unless one can consistently produce
right action one will not be able to influence others.
3. Steadfastness (Fortitude)
Staying Power! If what you're doing is meaningful then you've got to hang
in and stick with it. Over a period of time others around you will speak of
your ability and you will develop a reputation for being consistent.
Everybody and his or her friends, because of the lack of knowledge will
knock what you're about; but as long as you stay with it, you'll grow. As
long as you stay with it and benefit, then others will follow. Being
steadfast is holding to your principles.
4. Identify with Higher Ideals
What makes some people strong (steadfast) while others change from one week
to the next? Identity with something larger than themselves is what it is.
As we examine ourselves we find that most of what we have been concerned
with to the present has been self-centered and petty. Our identity with
African people world-wide and throughout time is the highest identity that
exists for us.
5. Evidence of a Mission
Our situation in captivity speaks of our need to liberate ourselves.
Liberation is our mission. Some might say we'll never achieve it in our
lifetimes, but we're not concerned with our lifetimes. We're concerned with
the liberation (advancement) of African people. This means that everyone we
come in contact with must be fed something, so that the seed of liberation
grows within them.
6. Evidence of a Call to Spiritual Order
Once you have seen the 'Mission' and understand its importance, then you
must move in that direction. Some people in this western culture get
"saved". We must get "Conscious" and act to fill the needs among our
people. No Brother, conscious brother or sister can be comfortable until
our situation as a people is corrected.
7. Freedom from Resentment (Courage).
The move to freedom calls for change. Change disrupts, breaks, reassembles
and redefines. While things are in the process of change there is no
stability, no comfort. For this reason many avoid change. One who is
enlightened however sees change as a must because the alternative is death
for African people. Now comes the conflict. Your parents, family and
friends don't see what you see. You can't follow their path and they don't
see yours. They will act negative towards you as you follow your direction.
Only courage will help you stay on your path and that courage comes from
within. That courage will keep you from being resentful against those who
don't see; and that same courage will stop their resentment from getting in
you and slowing you down.
8. Confidence in the Power of the Master (Teacher).
If you have come to the level where you want to develop (change) then the
best thing to do is to become the student of someone more advanced in the
path (liberation) that you want to follow a master (teacher) is someone who
has demonstrated their attachment to the advancement of our people.
9. Confidence in One's Own Learning Abilities.
The greatest teacher cannot teach unless the student is willing to change.
The only thing that prevents change is the unwillingness to change.
10. Preparedness for Initiation
Once you've received knowledge are you prepared to act on it (change)? The
receipt of knowledge is worthless unless change follows. We are
continuously receiving knowledge. We must be prepared to continually change
(grow).
Elder Professor Edward Scobie ASCAC Eastern Region Conference
Adopted from George G.M. James Stolen Legacy
ASCAC Study Group Guide
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Hello Mr Conteh,
To generalise my scenerio, base on the fact that,the statistic show during
the take over not what individuals like yourself did.Maybe you are reading
my points negetively for the second time.
In my mail concerning this issue, I stated all what you are pondering on
which convince me that you do not read my postings positively because I am
neither supporting the regim of Jammeh nor do i to Jawara. Brother can't
you understand that we are different in opinions and what matters is to
work together for the common good of the Gambia. This however, cannot be
achieve without co-operation and understanding within our selves.
Nepotism is what military government stand for in some point for
their own security, yet people are chanting for the same means to gain
power in the Gambia. Sorry if I offended you, but I think you are one of
the power hungry somebody who cannot wait to be a leader but force himself
to it.I am sure Yaya will not win the election if free and fair since
before the student event and more after. The only thing we can do as true
Gambians at heart, is what some thinkers of this forum are seggesting,that
is to pressurize the government by demonstrations and respective letters
to the UN and other donor countries and organisation now on to the 2001
election.Using military means to overthrow is just from the frying pan to
the fire regarding to macro/micro environment of our mother land.
To my understanding of unity is not we should all agree to one kind of
solution. Without brainstorming,nothing will be right since no matter what
wrong an idea happen to contain everyone will agree on it like it have
been happening in the Africa particularly The Gambia for decates now.These
kinds of habits are what we should try to eradicate from our context and
believes.People are so much superior minded obove the other resulting
to colapse in the systems of administration due elitisms.
MAY GOD SUSTAIN PEACE AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE GAMBIA FOLKS AND THE
GAMBIA AS A COUNTRY.MAY WE AT THE END OF THE DAY, COMES TOGETHER AND BE
THE SAVIOUR INTELLECTUALLY OF OUR SMALL GAMBIA. AMENALLAU YARABI.
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EDI LK SIDIBEH NAAKANTIE 2C9
DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS & ADMINISTRATION 48320 KOTKA
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PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh wrote:
> Mr. Sidibeh:
> I will take an exception to your scenario. I was among those Gambians who
> opposed a military takeover of a legitimate government on July 22, 1994. I
> denounced the illegal government and asked for the dictator to resign during
> my meeting with Tombong Saidy at The Gambian embassy in Washington, DC.
>
> I sent letters of resignation to yahya jemus and his entire cabinet to resign
> immediately. I know numerous Gambian who were sad on the unfortunate day of
> July 22. It is logic that you stop generalizing about the support the
> dictator received. In fact, numerous Gambians were afraid to criticize the
> dictator for fear of reprisals.
>
> It is unfortunate that the dictator has continued to divide us on tribal
> lines. He has slowly replaced senior members of the armed forces with his
> ethnic tribe. This is wrong and unconstitutional. He has barred several
> politicians from political activities. He has looted our treasury. He has
> built a multi million dalasis mansion. in Kaninlai. He has moved the
> administrative capital to his native village. He is supplying electricity to
> the residence of his village 24 hours a day, seven days a week and 365 days a
> year at the expense of The Gambian people. He has built an air strip in
> Kaninlai. He has dismissed innocent Gambian civil servants as if he his
> changing his underwear. He has approved the slaughter of innocent Gambian
> school children.
> I can go on and on with the dictator's lack of understanding and stupidity.
>
> Where is The Gambia heading to? What should we do as members of the
> opposition? Are we not tired of the events in The Gambia? Let us act now.
> Let us unite for a better and prosperous Gambia. The dictator has know
> intention to relinguish power. Let us not fool of ourselves.
>
> The dictator must go. Dictator yahya jemus, let my people go.
>
>
> Comrade,
>
> Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh
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I commended Ancha as a role model to our struggle as new gambians in
heart.I for one, think you are doing good job out there to show the regim
that you are not working for them but the people of the Gambia.So thanks
to your effort and is only God who will reword you.=20
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EDI LK SIDIBEH=09=09=09=09=09NAAKANTIE 2C9
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PEACETO EVERYONE ON EARTH.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Asbj=F8rn Nordam wrote:
> Friends,
> I am glad to see that one of our list members Miss Ancha Bala-Gaye has ta=
ken
> the initiative to establish a memorial foundation together with other peo=
ple
> in the Gambia, such as Sheriff Bojang, Sarraing Ceesay, Bella Bala-Gay=
e,
> Deyda Hydara , Jack Njie, Amie Joof .
> The foundation is establish to support the late Omar Barrows family.
> Ancha is acting.=20
> Last time I was in The Gambia I met her once at RVH, and just very short
> because she was so busy with blood analyzes. As you maybe know she return=
ed
> to the Gambia after years of studies abroad, and started to serve at RVH =
at
> the beginning as a volunteer, because there was such a need of a person w=
ith
> her skills and knowledge and she would like to do something.
> And Ancha is together with some of our other friends from this gambia-l a=
lso
> serving as GESO Gambia branch.
> She certainly serve as one of my role models for a new Gambia.
> Ancha keep up all the fine things you have started. I will surely give y=
ou
> my fully support. BRAVO.
>=20
> Asbj=F8rn Nordam
>=20
> PS: I don=B4t know how it is in The Gambia, but I expect that people who =
are
> illegal kept by the authorities, and a family-father who has been killed =
by
> the authorities will be compensated fully. If it later will be proved tha=
t
> there was no reason to shoot and kill Omar Barrow, I expect that the
> government will fully compensate the family the loss of a bread-winner.=
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I was pleased to read of the Memorial Foundation in respect of Omar =
Barrow which Miss Ancha Bala-Gaye and friends have started. Possibly =
the details have been posted - if so I missed them. =20
Please could details be posted.=20
Also if anything similar has been started in respect of the families of =
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Mr. Sidibeh:
I did not read your points incorrectly. I wrote to take an exception, but
not a condemnation of your views. You have every right to be neutral.
What amazed me was the generalization that everyone supported the overthrow
of Sir Dawda's government. I still maintain that it was illegal for a
democratically elected government to be overthrown by a military. Things
have taken the worst in The Gambia because yahya and his cohorts do not care
about the average Gambian. They will use any kind of force to remain in
power.
I also want to let you know that I oppose any kind of military intervention
to overthrow the thugs out of power. This would only complicate situations
and further cause instability in our country. The solution to our problems
is simple. We are fragmented and refuse to unite. We in the Gambia-L can
write and criticize the illegal government, but if we are unwilling to unite
for a common cause, our enemy will always prevail. Some people are quick to
accuse advocates of fairness all kinds of pronouns. What is at stake here is
that we have a dictator who is using tribal warfare against majority of
Gambians. It is not unpatriotic to criticize this kind of evil that will
eventually divide us.
Finally, we must remember that the opposition should unite and focus on one
presidential candidate. "A house divided will never stand." Until later,
dictator yahya jemus must go.
Comrade,
Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh
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A while back I posted what appeared to me to be the profound inadequacies of
Yahya Jammeh's efforts at reaching a peaceful resolution of the unrest in
Cassamance. The only thing the President attempted to bring to the
negotiating table was goodwill. He lacked credibility, clout and the
diplomatic savvy that must necessarily compliment his stated desire for
peace. Consequently the President's efforts were continuously stymied by
procedural wrangles and unkept promises of ceasefires. The talks went
nowhere.The President nonetheless wasted no time parlaying his newfound role
as a peace facilitator into diplomatic capital wherever he could. He and and
his surrogates are quick to use any forum to portray a man the New York times
called a petty dictator as the ultimate apostle of peace. The posturing was
endless. Recognizing the inherent lack of progress, the then President-elect
Wade quickly announced that he was going to shift the focus of the
negotiations from the Banjul Process to Guinea Bissau where he knew the real
prospects for a lasting peace laid. This weekend he made good on that by
flying over to Bissau for extensive talks and then transiting to Banjul for
an hour to essentially tell Yahya Jammeh that the diplomatic ball game has
changed as promised. He said he was 'taking the talks from Gambia and moving
it to Bissau......'. President Wade is a practical man who wants to quickly
end his nations' painful and expensive war of attrition within it's own
borders. As a result he has very little patience for the amateurish
diplomatic efforts of a mediator who seems to be much more interested in
turning his role into tool for posturing than resolving the conflict.
In the end Presidents Wade and Kumba Yalla would cut a deal that would
not only resolve the problem but would improve overall relations that has
grown sour primarily because of this scrooge of a conflict. Working together
the two nations can quickly improve the environment along their common border
by first flushing out the criminal element that drives most of the violence
thus enhancing the already good possibility for a lasting political solution.
With peace and tranquility, the people of Cassamance would quickly realize
the benefits of using the devolved powers that President Wade has promised
that would enable them to remain within a unified Senegal while also being
able to run their affairs.
Apart from the satisfaction that comes from seeing a neighbor end a
fratricidal war of attrition, we Gambians can more easily show the world who
Yahya Jammeh really is , which is a murderous tyrant masquerading as a peace
maker. At last his penchant to tell anyone within earshot including
continental migratory birds flying over Kanalai of his tireless efforts at
peacemaking would be finally curbed.
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Hamjatta Kanteh =
No doubt he will get this message.He is still strong and part of the
progressive,one of those who are working hard right now to make sure that=
this
incident does not only remain a history but also spell out the way forwar=
d for
the struggle of our people.As one of the few intellectuals in the country=
who
believed that the students must not be left alone,he did his best the ver=
y day
after the massacre to gather some of us at his home not only for us to s=
peak
our minds but made us to commit our selves to link the struggle of the
students and that of the oppressed Gambian.More of his work on this issue=
will
be made known when ever available.
For freedom
saiks
is
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against Fascism that Jammeh has wrought on the Gambian People.
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Landing Jatta =
Can our chriatian brothers and sisters and non believers join your
army.Sometimes we need to be serious and this issue is no joke.
For freedom
Saiks
Fellow Gambians, We the patriotic members of ALLAH'S
ARMY have the particular pleasure to inform you that
we are ready and will sacrifice our lives and
resources to the RESTORATION OF PEACE AND TRANQUILITY
to our beautiful country the Gambia. Our beloved
country has lost its innocence: A COUNTRY WHICH USED
TO BE TONGUE AND MOUTH of the whole of Africa is no
longer part of the family of nations. In stead, our
own Black leaders are even worst than the White Racist
leaders in South Africa who used to slaughter our
brothers and sisters during the days of apartheid.
Now, in the new mellinium, when we hope to rule
ourselves and enjoy tremendous peace and tranquility,
our hopes are dashed and our lives taken by the very
black leaders we trust. Could you imagine that YAYA
JAMMEH, THE MANSA OF KANINLAI, the so-called pious
muslim hiding behind the muslim turban and the
so-called mosque he built at our people's state House
actually gave orders to kill our kids who are the
future leaders of our country.But time will tell. Time
has now ripe to consider very seriously in
implementing the fundamental duty of WE THE ALLAH'S
ARMY. And we will soon act. We are warning all those
so-called mouth piece and puppets who currently take
side with the evil administration to watch out,
because when time comes, they would be counted and pay
a heavy price.
YAYA would never ever allow to be defeated in a free
and fair election. We know him very well. It would be
blood-shed if YAYA will go. He will try to clinch into
power at all cost. But before our beautiful country
will be like LIBERIA, SIERRA LEONE OR RWANDA, We THE
ALLAH'S ARMY must rectify the circumstance.
MAY ALLAH, THE ALMIGHTY BLESS OUR MISSION, AND BLESS
ALL OF YOU.
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:50:46 -0700
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Dear Saiks,
Very many thanks for you response and vivid opinion about Allah's Army. I think it is a question of nomenclature(terminology). The word Allah is synonymous to God. There is no distinction between the two. My intention is not to segregate or discriminate any group of people, tribe, or religious sect. How about if I had used the word God instead of Allah, would the Muslims too complain? May be I should have used a very neutral word such as Jah; but any way, Allah's army is for saviors who intend to re-surrect our beautiful country from the brink of destruction and division. Further more, I have used the Allah to mock YAYA JAMMEH who once said that his money comes from Allah's Bank. Therefore, if YAYA JAMMEH has Allah's Bank, we too have Allah's Army to take him out.
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<P>Dear Saiks,</P>
<P>Very many thanks for you response and vivid opinion about <STRONG>Allah's Army.</STRONG> I think it is a question of <STRONG>nomenclature(terminology).</STRONG> The word <STRONG>Allah </STRONG>is synonymous to <STRONG>God. </STRONG>There is no distinction between the two. My intention is not to <STRONG>segregate or discriminate </STRONG>any group of people, tribe, or religious sect. How about if I had used the word God instead of Allah, would the Muslims too complain? May be I should have used a very neutral word such as <STRONG>Jah; </STRONG>but any way, Allah's army is for saviors who intend to re-surrect our beautiful country from the brink of destruction and division. Further more, I have used the Allah to mock YAYA JAMMEH who once said that his money comes from <STRONG>Allah's Bank. </STRONG>Therefore, if YAYA JAMMEH has Allah's Bank, we too have Allah's Army to take him out.</P>
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Hi folks,
The posting below came from one momodou camara ([log in to unmask]), =
and was signed by Landing Jatta. Mr. Jatta was following up on a topic =
("ALLAH'S ARMY Army: Struggle Must Continue") which he started =
yesterday, April 29. That posting came from the address =
[log in to unmask] Given that we already have a Momodou Camara (one of the =
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or Mr. Camara that we can only tolerate one of the above addresses, and =
names on the list. Please let us know which one you want to go by (even =
though from all indications they both are assumed identities), and make =
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Have a great weekend, and best wishes.
Katim
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Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [ALLAHS ARMY: Struggle Must continue]
Dear Saiks,
Very many thanks for you response and vivid opinion about Allah's =
Army. I think it is a question of nomenclature(terminology). The word =
Allah is synonymous to God. There is no distinction between the two. My =
intention is not to segregate or discriminate any group of people, =
tribe, or religious sect. How about if I had used the word God instead =
of Allah, would the Muslims too complain? May be I should have used a =
very neutral word such as Jah; but any way, Allah's army is for saviors =
who intend to re-surrect our beautiful country from the brink of =
destruction and division. Further more, I have used the Allah to mock =
YAYA JAMMEH who once said that his money comes from Allah's Bank. =
Therefore, if YAYA JAMMEH has Allah's Bank, we too have Allah's Army to =
take him out.
Landing Jatta
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Katim</FONT></DIV>
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<P>Very many thanks for you response and vivid opinion about =
<STRONG>Allah's=20
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My intention is not to <STRONG>segregate or discriminate </STRONG>any =
group of=20
people, tribe, or religious sect. How about if I had used the word God =
instead=20
of Allah, would the Muslims too complain? May be I should have used a =
very=20
neutral word such as <STRONG>Jah; </STRONG>but any way, Allah's army =
is for=20
saviors who intend to re-surrect our beautiful country from the brink =
of=20
destruction and division. Further more, I have used the Allah to mock =
YAYA=20
JAMMEH who once said that his money comes from <STRONG>Allah's Bank.=20
</STRONG>Therefore, if YAYA JAMMEH has Allah's Bank, we too have =
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 19:02:33 +0200
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Good question Katim. Landing Jatta and the Momodou Lamin Camara wrote from the
following IPs 32.100.165.200 and 32.100.251.10
Momodou Camara Copenhagen - Denmark
On 30 Apr 00, at 11:25, Katim S. Touray wrote:
Hi folks,
The posting below came from one momodou camara
([log in to unmask]), and was signed by
Landing Jatta. Mr. Jatta was following up on a topic ("ALLAH'S ARMY Army:
Struggle Must Continue") which he started yesterday, April 29. That posting
came from the address [log in to unmask] Given that
we already have a Momodou Camara (one of the list Managers) on the list, it is
unfair to him to tolerate the changing identifies of Mr. Jatta or Mr. Camara.
I would like to inform Mr. Jatta or Mr. Camara that we can only tolerate one of
the above addresses, and names on the list. Please let us know which one you
want to go by (even though from all indications they both are assumed
identities), and make sure you unsubscribe the other from the list. As the
Wollof saying goes: you have to sleep in one bed so we can wake you up.
Have a great weekend, and best wishes.
Katim
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Dear Saiks,
Very many thanks for you response and vivid opinion about Allah's Army. I think
it is a question of nomenclature(terminology). The word Allah is synonymous to
God. There is no distinction between the two. My intention is not to segregate
or discriminate any group of people, tribe, or religious sect. How about if I
had used the word God instead of Allah, would the Muslims too complain? May be
I should have used a very neutral word such as Jah; but any way, Allah's army
is for saviors who intend to re-surrect our beautiful country from the brink of
destruction and division. Further more, I have used the Allah to mock YAYA
JAMMEH who once said that his money comes from Allah's Bank. Therefore, if YAYA
JAMMEH has Allah's Bank, we too have Allah's Army to take him out.
Landing Jatta
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:20:15 +0200
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We thank Pa Dacosta for striking exactly,at the top of the nail.
We,(the ex-students of Pa Dacosta)were not surprised for what he said.
The muslim leaders knew that,the children died on the course of "Jihad"
by voicing out the truth.The prophet Muhammad(PBUH)said,
"The most excellent Jihad is a true word in the presence of tyrannical
rulers"
so therefore,even Pa Dacosta has done a Jihad for the truth he
said,about
the incident.He was correct in his speech when he said,he will accept to
become the first martyr of the country,for saying the truth.
The prophet Muhammad(PBUH)said,
"Adhere to truth,for truth leads to good deeds and good deeds lead him
who does them to paradise.If a man continues to speak the truth and
makes truth his objective,he will be recorded in Allah`s presence as
eminently truthful.Avoid falsehood,for falsehood leads to wickedness
and wickedness leads to hell.If a man continues to speak falsehood
and makes falsehood his objecktive,he will be recorded in Allah`s
presence as a great liar."
The prophet(PBUH)said,
"If you guarantee me six things on your part,I shall guarantee you
paradise.
1.Speak the truth when you talk.
2.Keep a promise when you make it.
3.Fulfil your trust when you are trusted.
4.Avoid sexual immorality.
5.Lower your eyes.
6.Restrain your hands from injustice.
We should believe in God,to speak out the truth without fear or favour.
If we don`t fear God,why should we fear our fellow humanbeings?
We are asking the question,WHO ORDERED THE SHOOTING?
I believe,the question is very easy to answer now, after we read the
postmortem reports collaborating with the evidences of Mr.Ndow
and the students.Our answer is,the two high ranking officers who were
at the scene during the time of the shooting,should be under the police
custody, to give us our answer.The Justice department should be held
accountable,if these two suspects disappears.I believe,the best way to
educate the Gambian public on the nature and functions of the
proceedings,
is to invite the Tv.Cameras inside the court room.
We are all aware of the fact that,the burden of proof in a criminal case
is
"beyond a reasonable doubt".Whereas,the burden of proof in a civil case
is
"by a mere preponderance of the evidence".
We thank the team of Lawyers for their good faith,in helping their
brothers
and sisters in this awful situation.We also urge you,to do your
utmost,for
proper justice to be served.We will keep up following developments about
the 10th april massacre case.
Elhajj Mustapha Fye
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Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:39:00 -0700
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This is no confusion in my name. I am the real Landing
Jatta. Whoever is re-forwarding my messages is doing a
great farvor not only for me, but for all those
fighting for justice. And more detail informations
would emerge from as long as they occur in my
presence.
May Allah, the almighty, bless you all.
--- Momodou Camara <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Good question Katim. Landing Jatta and the Momodou
> Lamin Camara wrote from the
> following IPs 32.100.165.200 and 32.100.251.10
>
> Momodou Camara Copenhagen - Denmark
>
> On 30 Apr 00, at 11:25, Katim S. Touray wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> The posting below came from one momodou camara
> ([log in to unmask]), and was signed by
> Landing Jatta. Mr. Jatta was following up on a
> topic ("ALLAH'S ARMY Army:
> Struggle Must Continue") which he started yesterday,
> April 29. That posting
> came from the address [log in to unmask] Given that
> we already have a Momodou Camara (one of the list
> Managers) on the list, it is
> unfair to him to tolerate the changing identifies of
> Mr. Jatta or Mr. Camara.
> I would like to inform Mr. Jatta or Mr. Camara that
> we can only tolerate one of
> the above addresses, and names on the list. Please
> let us know which one you
> want to go by (even though from all indications they
> both are assumed
> identities), and make sure you unsubscribe the other
> from the list. As the
> Wollof saying goes: you have to sleep in one bed so
> we can wake you up.
>
> Have a great weekend, and best wishes.
>
> Katim
> which
> ----- Original Message -----
> Fr.COMmomodou camara
>
> [log in to unmask] Sent:
> Sunday, April 30, 2000 8:50 Subject: Re: [ALLAHS
> ARMY: Struggle Must contin
>
> Dear Saiks,
> Very many thanks for you response and vivid
> opinion about Allah's Army. I think
> it is a question of nomenclature(terminology).
> The word Allah is synonymous to
> God. There is no distinction between the two. My
> intention is not to segregate
> or discriminate any group of people, tribe, or
> religious sect. How about if I
> had used the word God instead of Allah, would
> the Muslims too complain? May be
> I should have used a very neutral word such as
> Jah; but any way, Allah's army
> is for saviors who intend to re-surrect our
> beautiful country from the brink of
> destruction and division. Further more, I have
> used the Allah to mock YAYA
> JAMMEH who once said that his money comes from
> Allah's Bank. Therefore, if YAYA
> JAMMEH has Allah's Bank, we too have Allah's
> Army to take him out.
> Landing Jatta
>
>
>
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'Paaap!' paaap!' A fully loaded 'katsaambaar' departed from the kapok tree and gathered speed towards the ferry terminal.With my reddish eyes, sunken cheeks and a dusty 'sumbuya' hat i was endlessly trying to comfortably position my torso at a corner in that bush taxi.In order to complement the search for comfort, i utilised some of that precious time and was chewing,hot,'afra'.
After fifteen fifteen minutes,an old man happilly chose to share a piece of kolanut 'péliti-guru' with some of us. Was that an elementary lesson of socialism? Was that cooperation? Was that cohesion amongst the poor passengers? I decided to massage my tortured inner feelings with those challenging questions....
My brain started reeling facets upon facets! NO way! I couldn't escape that abstract lawyer who was cross examining conscience!
My imagination became more and more agressive.The more i thought of those messages i have been and i am still writing,the more i was guilty of not being able to share the concerns that urged me to write with those passeners who were happilly chewing kolanuts.
The 'lyrics' from their realistic analysis of every situation,made me think of the messages from that laptop i highly rely on! After clicking on and making a thorough comparison,sometimes i do only see paradoxical analysis...Hi! realism...Will you agree with me when i say that, life is nothing else but a game of "win-or-lose"?
Politics is not a ridiculous frame but its rather a frame that says to you and me to be meticulous! That was what realism whispered into my ears.
I was completely numb when Takko M'bomri turned towards me and asked me a question in perfect mandingo:"Are you ill?" I smiled back and said:"No,no, but i am tired".This stirred my inner feelings again and i learnt a lesson which spontaneously made me ask myself another question....Are those messages from my laptop meant to teach these people or instead to teach me and those acrobats i do join, to enjoy our daily intellectual gymnastics? I was being tortured by a lot of inner feelings that were unable to find a target to hit with their flaming spear!
Those passengers! those villagers! those happy folks! Do they really understand what OUR laptops vomit? My concern untill i see.....
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<P> 'Paaap!' paaap!' A fully loaded 'katsaambaar' departed from the kapok tree and gathered speed towards the ferry terminal.With my reddish eyes, sunken cheeks and a dusty 'sumbuya' hat i was endlessly trying to comfortably position my torso at a corner in that bush taxi.In order to complement the search for comfort, i utilised some of that precious time and was chewing,hot,'afra'.</P>
<P> After fifteen fifteen minutes,an old man happilly chose to share a piece of kolanut 'péliti-guru' with some of us. Was that an elementary lesson of socialism? Was that cooperation? Was that cohesion amongst the poor passengers? I decided to massage my tortured inner feelings with those challenging questions....</P>
<P>My brain started reeling facets upon facets! NO way! I couldn't escape that abstract lawyer who was cross examining conscience!</P>
<P>My imagination became more and more agressive.The more i thought of those messages i have been and i am still writing,the more i was guilty of not being able to share the concerns that urged me to write with those passeners who were happilly chewing kolanuts.</P>
<P>The 'lyrics' from their realistic analysis of every situation,made me think of the messages from that laptop i highly rely on! After clicking on and making a thorough comparison,sometimes i do only see paradoxical analysis...Hi! realism...Will you agree with me when i say that, life is nothing else but a game of "win-or-lose"?</P>
<P>Politics is not a ridiculous frame but its rather a frame that says to you and me to be meticulous! That was what realism whispered into my ears.</P>
<P>I was completely numb when Takko M'bomri turned towards me and asked me a question in perfect mandingo:"Are you ill?" I smiled back and said:"No,no, but i am tired".This stirred my inner feelings again and i learnt a lesson which spontaneously made me ask myself another question....Are those messages from my laptop meant to teach these people or instead to teach me and those acrobats i do join, to enjoy our daily intellectual gymnastics? I was being tortured by a lot of inner feelings that were unable to find a target to hit with their flaming spear!</P>
<P>Those passengers! those villagers! those happy folks! Do they really understand what OUR laptops vomit? My concern untill i see.....</P>
<P> Essa Bokarr Sey.</P>
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May his soul rest in perfect peace. Our condolences to the family and
extended family.
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Well said Mr. Faye.
I think it is high time that we Gambians start to protest against the dirty
regime trying to distroy our country.
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>We thank Pa Dacosta for striking exactly,at the top of the nail.
>We,(the ex-students of Pa Dacosta)were not surprised for what he said.
>The muslim leaders knew that,the children died on the course of "Jihad"
>by voicing out the truth.The prophet Muhammad(PBUH)said,
>"The most excellent Jihad is a true word in the presence of tyrannical
>rulers"
>so therefore,even Pa Dacosta has done a Jihad for the truth he
>said,about
>the incident.He was correct in his speech when he said,he will accept to
>
>become the first martyr of the country,for saying the truth.
>The prophet Muhammad(PBUH)said,
>"Adhere to truth,for truth leads to good deeds and good deeds lead him
> who does them to paradise.If a man continues to speak the truth and
> makes truth his objective,he will be recorded in Allah`s presence as
>eminently truthful.Avoid falsehood,for falsehood leads to wickedness
>and wickedness leads to hell.If a man continues to speak falsehood
>and makes falsehood his objecktive,he will be recorded in Allah`s
>presence as a great liar."
>The prophet(PBUH)said,
>"If you guarantee me six things on your part,I shall guarantee you
>paradise.
>1.Speak the truth when you talk.
>2.Keep a promise when you make it.
>3.Fulfil your trust when you are trusted.
>4.Avoid sexual immorality.
>5.Lower your eyes.
>6.Restrain your hands from injustice.
>We should believe in God,to speak out the truth without fear or favour.
>If we don`t fear God,why should we fear our fellow humanbeings?
>We are asking the question,WHO ORDERED THE SHOOTING?
>I believe,the question is very easy to answer now, after we read the
>postmortem reports collaborating with the evidences of Mr.Ndow
>and the students.Our answer is,the two high ranking officers who were
>at the scene during the time of the shooting,should be under the police
>custody, to give us our answer.The Justice department should be held
>accountable,if these two suspects disappears.I believe,the best way to
>educate the Gambian public on the nature and functions of the
>proceedings,
>is to invite the Tv.Cameras inside the court room.
>We are all aware of the fact that,the burden of proof in a criminal case
>is
>"beyond a reasonable doubt".Whereas,the burden of proof in a civil case
>is
>"by a mere preponderance of the evidence".
>We thank the team of Lawyers for their good faith,in helping their
>brothers
>and sisters in this awful situation.We also urge you,to do your
>utmost,for
>proper justice to be served.We will keep up following developments about
>
>the 10th april massacre case.
> Elhajj Mustapha Fye
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Hei, can someone help me to understand why football or sports in The Gambia
is always going backwards?
Macou.
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Gambia-L,
It is with deep sadness that I am writing to inform you of the sudden death
of Sister Ndey Jobarteh's father, Mr Kitimu Jobarteh, which sad event
occurred this afternoon at a clinic in Banjul. May his soul rest in peace.
Ebrima Ceesay
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Ndey,
I'm not sure yuou'll get to this any time soon, but please accept my
heart-felt condolences. May his soul rest in eternal peace.
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My deepest condolences to sister Ndey Jobarteh. May Allah provide a place in
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I have saved Katim the trouble and re-subscribed you.
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Aji,
Be strong! We are with you in spirit.
Sister and the family
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> occurred this afternoon at a clinic in Banjul. May his soul rest in =
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Ndey,
Please accept my deepest condolences and extend same
to the family and friends. May his soul rest in peace.
sidi sanneh
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> Jobarteh, which sad event
> occurred this afternoon at a clinic in Banjul. May
> his soul rest in peace.
>
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>
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Thanks for sharing!
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'Paaap!' paaap!' A fully loaded 'katsaambaar' departed from =
the kapok tree and gathered speed towards the ferry terminal.With my =
reddish eyes, sunken cheeks and a dusty 'sumbuya' hat i was endlessly =
trying to comfortably position my torso at a corner in that bush =
taxi.In order to complement the search for comfort, i utilised some of =
that precious time and was chewing,hot,'afra'.
After fifteen fifteen minutes,an old man happilly chose to =
share a piece of kolanut 'p=E9liti-guru' with some of us. Was that an =
elementary lesson of socialism? Was that cooperation? Was that cohesion =
amongst the poor passengers? I decided to massage my tortured inner =
feelings with those challenging questions....
My brain started reeling facets upon facets! NO way! I couldn't escape =
that abstract lawyer who was cross examining conscience!
My imagination became more and more agressive.The more i thought of =
those messages i have been and i am still writing,the more i was guilty =
of not being able to share the concerns that urged me to write with =
those passeners who were happilly chewing kolanuts.
The 'lyrics' from their realistic analysis of every situation,made me =
think of the messages from that laptop i highly rely on! After clicking =
on and making a thorough comparison,sometimes i do only see paradoxical =
analysis...Hi! realism...Will you agree with me when i say that, life is =
nothing else but a game of "win-or-lose"?
Politics is not a ridiculous frame but its rather a frame that says to =
you and me to be meticulous! That was what realism whispered into my =
ears.
I was completely numb when Takko M'bomri turned towards me and asked me =
a question in perfect mandingo:"Are you ill?" I smiled back and =
said:"No,no, but i am tired".This stirred my inner feelings again and =
i learnt a lesson which spontaneously made me ask myself another =
question....Are those messages from my laptop meant to teach these =
people or instead to teach me and those acrobats i do join, to enjoy our =
daily intellectual gymnastics? I was being tortured by a lot of inner =
feelings that were unable to find a target to hit with their flaming =
spear!
Those passengers! those villagers! those happy folks! Do they really =
understand what OUR laptops vomit? My concern untill i see.....
Essa =
Bokarr Sey.
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Assalaamu alaikum brother Mustapha
Alhamdulilah,(praise due to Allah! He alone)
There is no power and might except by Allah
Thank you very much bro. Mustapha.....
You have said it all,(the truth cannot be hidden)
May Allah extend your faith:::Ameen!!!
We all know that the one who ordered the shooting of the innocent students
is one of the AFPRC
leaders.But who???
Most of the gambians are concerned about WHO ORDERED THE SHOOTING???
Then we can all do the Judgement, we dont need to be a part of the Jury, but
we can do the Judgement.
We dont need to know,(what kind of bullets they used) nor how they died, all
what we want to know is "WHO ORDERED THE SHOOTING"
We want to know the real evil`s in the gambia, to be shown to the whole
world.....
We should all pray in our hearts,that Allah reveal
the killer`s of the students to the whole world.....
ps: Pa Dacusta was my teacher I know that he is a man of TRUTH! without any
shadow of though.
May Allah The Almighty give him longlife, goodhealth and
prosperity.....Ameen!!!!!
May Allah guide us from Satan and lead us to the Straight
part.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
(Pulo)
Elhajj Mustapha Fye <writes:
> We thank Pa Dacosta for striking exactly,at the top of the nail.
> We,(the ex-students of Pa Dacosta)were not surprised for what he said.
> The muslim leaders knew that,the children died on the course of "Jihad"
> by voicing out the truth.The prophet Muhammad(PBUH)said,
> "The most excellent Jihad is a true word in the presence of tyrannical
> rulers"
> so therefore,even Pa Dacosta has done a Jihad for the truth he
> said,about
> the incident.He was correct in his speech when he said,he will accept to
>
> become the first martyr of the country,for saying the truth.
> The prophet Muhammad(PBUH)said,
> "Adhere to truth,for truth leads to good deeds and good deeds lead him
> who does them to paradise.If a man continues to speak the truth and
> makes truth his objective,he will be recorded in Allah`s presence as
> eminently truthful.Avoid falsehood,for falsehood leads to wickedness
> and wickedness leads to hell.If a man continues to speak falsehood
> and makes falsehood his objecktive,he will be recorded in Allah`s
> presence as a great liar."
> The prophet(PBUH)said,
> "If you guarantee me six things on your part,I shall guarantee you
> paradise.
> 1.Speak the truth when you talk.
> 2.Keep a promise when you make it.
> 3.Fulfil your trust when you are trusted.
> 4.Avoid sexual immorality.
> 5.Lower your eyes.
> 6.Restrain your hands from injustice.
> We should believe in God,to speak out the truth without fear or favour.
> If we don`t fear God,why should we fear our fellow humanbeings?
> We are asking the question,WHO ORDERED THE SHOOTING?
> I believe,the question is very easy to answer now, after we read the
> postmortem reports collaborating with the evidences of Mr.Ndow
> and the students.Our answer is,the two high ranking officers who were
> at the scene during the time of the shooting,should be under the police
> custody, to give us our answer.The Justice department should be held
> accountable,if these two suspects disappears.I believe,the best way to
> educate the Gambian public on the nature and functions of the
> proceedings,
> is to invite the Tv.Cameras inside the court room.
> We are all aware of the fact that,the burden of proof in a criminal case
> is
> "beyond a reasonable doubt".Whereas,the burden of proof in a civil case
> is
> "by a mere preponderance of the evidence".
> We thank the team of Lawyers for their good faith,in helping their
> brothers
> and sisters in this awful situation.We also urge you,to do your
> utmost,for
> proper justice to be served.We will keep up following developments about
>
> the 10th april massacre case.
> Elhajj Mustapha Fye
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Mrs. Ndey Jobarteh,
At this time of bereavement, may Allah bless you with strength and continuity. From Malafy Jarju & Family.
Mafy
Gambia-L,
It is with deep sadness that I am writing to inform you of the sudden death
of Sister Ndey Jobarteh's father, Mr Kitimu Jobarteh, which sad event
occurred this afternoon at a clinic in Banjul. May his soul rest in peace.
Ebrima Ceesay
PS: Katim Touray, I was away for 10 days, came back yesterday only to
discover that I am no longer getting mails from Gambia L. The last mails I
received from the L were dated 21 April, 2000. Grateful, if you could
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To Allah we belong and to Him is our Ultimate return.
We ask for recompense us for our affliction and replace it for us with
something better.
We also ask Allah to Shower him with His Mercy and grant him
forgiveness.....Ameen!!!!!
My sincere condonlences to sister Ndeh Jobarteh and the entire family,
friends and relatives.
May His Soul Rest in Perfect peace.....Ameen!!!!!Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000
12:36 AM
Ebrima Ceesay writes:
> Gambia-L,
>
> It is with deep sadness that I am writing to inform you of the sudden
death
> of Sister Ndey Jobarteh's father, Mr Kitimu Jobarteh, which sad event
> occurred this afternoon at a clinic in Banjul. May his soul rest in peace.
>
> Ebrima Ceesay
>
> PS: Katim Touray, I was away for 10 days, came back yesterday only to
> discover that I am no longer getting mails from Gambia L. The last mails I
> received from the L were dated 21 April, 2000. Grateful, if you could
> assist.
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Essa,
Good reading... It is nice to have a Gambia-L with a broad range of intellect. I'm sure your poetry will only add valuable zest to the forum.
Malafy "Mafy" Jarju
<P> 'Paaap!' paaap!' A fully loaded 'katsaambaar' departed from the kapok tree and gathered speed towards the ferry terminal.With my reddish eyes, sunken cheeks and a dusty 'sumbuya' hat i was endlessly trying to comfortably position my torso at a corner in that bush taxi.In order to complement the search for comfort, i utilised some of that precious time and was chewing,hot,'afra'.</P>
<P> After fifteen fifteen minutes,an old man happilly chose to share a piece of kolanut 'péliti-guru' with some of us. Was that an elementary lesson of socialism? Was that cooperation? Was that cohesion amongst the poor passengers? I decided to massage my tortured inner feelings with those challenging questions....</P>
<P>My brain started reeling facets upon facets! NO way! I couldn't escape that abstract lawyer who was cross examining conscience!</P>
<P>My imagination became more and more agressive.The more i thought of those messages i have been and i am still writing,the more i was guilty of not being able to share the concerns that urged me to write with those passeners who were happilly chewing kolanuts.</P>
<P>The 'lyrics' from their realistic analysis of every situation,made me think of the messages from that laptop i highly rely on! After clicking on and making a thorough comparison,sometimes i do only see paradoxical analysis...Hi! realism...Will you agree with me when i say that, life is nothing else but a game of "win-or-lose"?</P>
<P>Politics is not a ridiculous frame but its rather a frame that says to you and me to be meticulous! That was what realism whispered into my ears.</P>
<P>I was completely numb when Takko M'bomri turned towards me and asked me a question in perfect mandingo:"Are you ill?" I smiled back and said:"No,no, but i am tired".This stirred my inner feelings again and i learnt a lesson which spontaneously made me ask myself another question....Are those messages from my laptop meant to teach these people or instead to teach me and those acrobats i do join, to enjoy our daily intellectual gymnastics? I was being tortured by a lot of inner feelings that were unable to find a target to hit with their flaming spear!</P>
<P>Those passengers! those villagers! those happy folks! Do they really understand what OUR laptops vomit? My concern untill i see.....</P>
<P> Essa Bokarr Sey.</P>
<P> </P><p><br><hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br>
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Simple Macou, No sponsors. There you have it!!!!
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Subject: Sv: OBITUARY
To Allah we belong and to Him is our Ultimate return.
We ask for recompense us for our affliction and replace it for us something
better.
We also ask Allah to Shower him with His Mercy and grant him
Forgiveness.....Ameen!!!!!
This is a real blessing from Allah! to live 104 years
and has a title of God-fearing, (thank God!)
My sincere condonlences to the entire family friends and relatives.
May his Soul Rest in Perfect Peace.....Ameen!!!!!
Allahummasalli alaa saidina Muhammadin wa alaa alli Muhammadin.
Samba Goddard
(Pulo)
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 8:24 AM
Sheikh Tejan Nyang writes:
> The Njie family of Serrekunda Lion house regret to announce the death of
> their father Momar Njie Caboraneh. He was 104 years and must be one of
> the oldest persons in the greater Banjul area. Pa Momar ,until his death
> was healthy and active. He was a God fearing person and had time to read
> his koran and preached the gospel of the holy prophet . He was a
> historian who was knowledgeable on peoples family connections. Our
> condolence to the families Alieu Njie, Scout Commissioner, Lie fish, Mrs
> Mass Khah, Matty Njie, Wa Njie and the rest of the family. May his soul
> rest in perfect peace .
>
> Chi Jamma,
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Dear GL,
When you fight your enemy or the one you term evil by employing methods =
of hatred
and violence, then you are part of the hatred and violence of your enemy =
itself,
despite the rightness of your position in your own mind.
If all the people in the world who are against terrorism, war and =
injustice were to
shift their perspective to supporting and working for peaceful =
solutions, then
terrorism, war and injustice would be eleminated more effectively, =
passing it over
from one generation to another.
For every one dollar we spend on peace, we spend two thousand on war.
On the entire planet we spend approximately twenty five million dollars =
every
minute on the bussiness of war and upgrading our capacity for killing =
each other,
while in the same minute, and ever minute of the day, approximately =
fifty children
die of starvation, especially in our African continent.
It is as if every ten minutes a Boeing 747 loaded with children were to =
crash,
killing all of the passengers.=20
We are all part of the problem as long as we continue advocating hatred =
and violence.
Knowing the person that you are, and understanding your purpose here
on earth for this short period of time and work towards empowerment in =
spite of what
you may see so many others doing.=20
Engaging ourselves into hatred and violence means that we are passing =
over these
characters to the next generation. I think it is high time that we =
Africans start using=20
our intellects in a profound manner to find peaceful solutions to our =
problems.
Thanks for sharing!
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Ndye, Accept my sympathy on the death of your father.
Is this the Kitimou Who use to work for S.S. Ceesay & Sons?
Thanks
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Hi folks,
I got the following e-mail the other day, and would appreciate any one able to
help to contact the writer ([log in to unmask]). I suspect some of you might be
interested in working on a project similar to what's described below.
Have a great week, and best wishes.
Katim
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Subject: Projet de création d'une fondation pour les Arts Plastiques
> Bonjour !
> J'ai eu votre adresse e.mail par le biais de M. Moussa Samb
> Professeur de Droit à l'UCAD où je travaille. Notre Projet qui,
> d'après M. Samb pourrait vous intéresser est relatif à la prochaine
> création ici à Dakar d'une Fondation qui aurait pour objectif
> principal la promotion des Arts Plastiques et des créateurs de ce
> sous-secteur. Aussi vous serais-je obligé de bien vouloir nous
> confirmer votre intérêt pour le projet car nous sommes disposés (et
> nous sommes même demandeurs !) à coopter toutes les ressources
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> ce projet. Alors à vous lire sous peu pour ensuite vous donner de
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Ndey,
Accept my sympathy. I also join the Gambia-L community in praying for the
departed's soul to rest in heaven.
obsilla.
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Aji,
Be strong! We are with you in spirit.
Sister and the family
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> Gambia-L,
>
> It is with deep sadness that I am writing to inform you of the sudden
death
> of Sister Ndey Jobarteh's father, Mr Kitimu Jobarteh, which sad event
> occurred this afternoon at a clinic in Banjul. May his soul rest in peace.
>
> Ebrima Ceesay
>
> PS: Katim Touray, I was away for 10 days, came back yesterday only to
> discover that I am no longer getting mails from Gambia L. The last mails I
> received from the L were dated 21 April, 2000. Grateful, if you could
> assist.
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Welcome to the Forbes Tech Update #3 -- fast-takes on the technology stories in the May 1, 2000 issue of Forbes magazine.
RADICAL PHILANTHROPIST (p. 114)
Pierre Omidyar started Ebay and made billions of dollars. Now, trying to give his fortune away, he's created a new style of charitable giving -- venture philanthropy -- and demolished old philanthropic models in the process.
http://www.enlist.com/cgi-bin/re/6510114a2RATIONAL
The day has come where any company with a brand name can act as an ISP and offer their customers free Internet access. So what does this mean for AOL and other access providers?
http://www.enlist.com/cgi-bin/re/6510140a2LAND GRAB (p. 144)
EXUBERANCE (p.52)
What happens if a bubble bursts on Wall Street and the Nasdaq collapses from 4000 to 2000? People might have to stop daydreaming about retiring at 42, but technology, and our ever-improving ability to put it to productive use, will continue driving real gains in living standards.
http://www.enlist.com/cgi-bin/re/6510052a2B2BLUSTER
FEATURES:
ON YOUR MIND: NUPTIALS (p. 36)
Intuit, Broadcast.com, and Eve.com's founding partners share stories of how they met and what it was that brought them together to form lasting business partnerships.
http://www.enlist.com/cgi-bin/re/6510036a2FUNDS AND GAMES (p.53)
EARTH (p. 76)
In the high-risk business of global satellite services, two of the four
players have gone bankrupt. So what makes Inmarsat think it has staying
power? For starters, twenty-one years of experience and a powerhouse set of partner-shareholders.
http://www.enlist.com/cgi-bin/re/6510076a2SUPER
SOUP UP YOUR PHONE JACK (p. 100)
A convergence of technologies is ready to enable high-speed Web access
(Webtone) throughout your home, yet this isn't about more access for your PC. Get ready for smart doorbells and security, Webphones, radio and stereos, digital picture frames and true video on demand.
http://www.enlist.com/cgi-bin/re/6510100a2ZEN AND THE
TALENT (p. 108)
The lack of broadband access necessary to broadcast live-action video,
combined with the quick spread of Macromedia's Flash animation software, is making once obscure animators the kings of Web entertainment.
http://www.enlist.com/cgi-bin/re/6510108a2LUXE.COM (p. 128)
Luxury goods e-tailer Ashford.com is coping with a problem known in the
computer industry as "channel conflict," where manufacturers threaten
relationships with existing retailers by selling products via a more
efficient means (in this case, the Web).
http://www.enlist.com/cgi-bin/re/6510128a2THE
Urban Media and a pack of rivals are betting millions on a race to wire up small businesses for the digital age. The plan: roll out free broadband to hundreds of office buildings and then use their fiber optics as a platform to sell additional services.
http://www.enlist.com/cgi-bin/re/6510144a2TEST-TUBE SEX (p. 154)
Thomas Weisel, founder of Montgomery Securities, predicts where the next wave of investors gains in the technology sector will come from – massive buyouts of young tech companies with good concepts but not enough capital to be viable.
http://www.enlist.com/cgi-bin/re/6510166a2COLUMNISTS:STEVE FORBES
FACT AND COMMENT: PUMMELING OUR PROSPERITY (P. 39)
Forbes' Editor-in-Chief looks at what's causing the stock market's current turbulence and what factors could ultimately kill high-tech innovation.
http://www.enlist.com/cgi-bin/re/6510039a2RICH KARLGAARD
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Subject: Fw: Welcome back...
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Folks,
Sorry that I am using the G-L to pass this message onto Ebrima. His =
hotmail account seem to have a fatal error hence it sends my mails back.
Thank you.
obsilla
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Subject: Welcome back...
Coach,
Welcome back from your ten days hiatus. After your e-mail to Katim, I =
now know why my numerous messages to you had always bounced back to me.=20
=20
Just in passing, let me inform you (in case you didn't know) that I =
have received the dictionary from the good hands of Sisters Ndey =
Jorbateh and Soffie Ceesay respectively. However, it is unfortunate =
that I tried to touch basis with both of them but to no avail. I called =
Soffie more than half a dozen times to thank her for the efforts she put =
in to get the dictionary to me but on each occasion she was out. I =
shall keep on trying nonetheless.
Thanks a million to you and Sandra once again for your benevolent =
gesture as always. =20
=20
Good night.
obsilla.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Folks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry that I am using the G-L to pass =
this message=20
onto Ebrima. His hotmail account seem to have a fatal error hence =
it sends=20
my mails back.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>obsilla</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
[log in to unmask]>obsilla</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20
[log in to unmask]>ebrima ceesay</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> 01 May 2000 0:45 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Welcome back...</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Coach,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Welcome back from your ten days =
hiatus. After=20
your e-mail to Katim, I now know why my numerous messages to you had =
always=20
bounced back to me. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Just in passing, let me inform =
you (in case=20
you didn't know) that I have received the dictionary from the good hands =
of=20
Sisters Ndey Jorbateh and Soffie Ceesay =
respectively. However, it is=20
unfortunate that I tried to touch basis with both of them but to no =
avail. I called Soffie more than half a dozen times to thank her =
for the=20
efforts she put in to get the dictionary to me but on each occasion she =
was=20
out. I shall keep on trying nonetheless.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks a million to you and Sandra once =
again for=20
your benevolent gesture as always. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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