Your prognosis of Gambian Groups atleast as it pertains to me and the GLC is incorrect. You presented your analysis as being based on first hand information. You have never asked me nor have I ever discussed with you my specific role in GLC. Your deductions about the organization is your entitlement but I think it is worthwhile for me to tell you how we met on that day at Howard University. The concept for an umbrella organization was Latjor Ndow's. He outlined it on Gambia-l and invited anyone interested to join him on a plenary session to crystallize the concept. I have never met Latjor prior to this preliminary session. I thought his concept had merit and I wanted to be part of it. What difference does it make how a good ideas emanates? You attempt to belittle the entire concept because you erroneously construe it as being exclusionary. The guy thought it up, put it out and invited all to work on it. That is n't good enough for you. I can understand your frustration with the Gambian people's general penchant to be passive to ideas but stretching that to be a reflection of incompetence or lacklusterness on the part of someone like Latjor is unfair. Latjor worked hard and put together a darn good idea. It doesn't matter whether you think professors or others joining him in improving those ideas in a public forum to which all were invited including you is somehow still inadequate. What you have managed to display in your frustration with organizations is a classic case of self righteousness. Somehow no one is able to measure up to your ideas of what makes for a good organization. Personally I am interested in ideas and Latjor has plenty of good ones. Now that you have made it clear his approach was problematic, I would like to urge you to advance a concept, organize a forum and invite us all to discuss it. May be we would emerge once and for all from our perpetual organizational malaise. you can count me in Karamba ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------