Gambia-L: Will someone please tell Jammeh supporters like Mafy, Tombong and one EB that Gambia-L is as democratic as democratic could conceivably be practised in it's most idealistic notion. I have been long enough a member of this List to testify that no one has ever been denied speaking their minds even if it means they are merely patronising Jammeh for their own personal growth or acting as toadies. So what's all this sanctimonious hectoring about the List managers being undemocratic in their endeavours concerning this? Maybe I'm in the dark about something here? Could someone fill me in? If the case of Matarr is what peeved the daylights out of Mafy to erroneously allude undemocratic proclivities to this List then he has yet to show a good sign that he has an ingenious way of judging disputes. At any rate, Matarr's behaviour was that of a morally depraved sexual misfit for pouring so much vitriolic insults on amongst others Katim, Saul, et al and at times their mothers. How can anyone contest the delisting of such a character? Or better still advocate for his resubscription to the List? The fact that Matarr can't simply put forward his points without resorting to vitriolic purgation, disqualifies him from any decent civilised forum where free speech is welcomed. But why is Mafy so peeved with Matarr's delistment? Could it be that Matarr is another who subscribes to Jammeh's irrational and naive Pan Africanist sentiments and would chose to defend him at all costs even if it reeks of illogicism? I have on several occasions received private mails from Matarr himself especially when I defended Jammeh's pants; his right to privacy vis-a-vis the case of his supposedly "third wife" and the Independent newspaper. He mistakenly took my robust defence of Jammeh's privacy as a sign that I'm in the Jammeh camp. Unlike them I have a very open mind and very objective way of looking at reality. Whilst I detested what Jammeh is hell bent on doing to the Gambia, I always give him his dues. If only some of them show such maturity in their thinking. On Tombong, isn't it a matter of ironic wit that he complains of being denied his right to be heard or is constantly heckled online when he presides over a tax payer maintained Radio and Television services where acting as Jammeh's lickspittle, he carry out directives and policy drives that deny the tax payer value for their taxes and for their real voices to be hear? Tombong ain't it a bit rich of you to complain of democracy on Gambia-L? You who still deny Gambians of all shade and colour to enjoy their views being heard on a public property? Alas GRTS is supposedly Jammeh's and only those in the Jammeh club are entitled to be heard on this tax payer maintained public properties. But it is always fitting and convenient for you to complain of Gambia-L being anti-Jammeh. Well, it was never imposed on anyone to be anti Jammeh; those who express their outrage of Jammeh's brutality didn't chose so because Katim or anyone else for that matter imposed it upon them as prerequisite before joining Gambia-L. And in the end please juxtapose the free exchange of ideas on this List and the moribund enforced dull conformism that exists on GRTS and the Gambia Daily. If you can still call Gambia-L undemocratic without the twitching of a muscle in your face, then I will know for real that you are the most two faced person ever! Tombong one must practise what one preaches. Go practise real democracy on GRTS and stop this whingeing about Gambia-L being undemocratic! On this EB chappie, I have little to say cos he is the most timorous of the Jammeh bunch who are shifting uncomfortably in their slumbers. His last posting belatedly denouncing the brutal slaughter of school kids by Jammeh's trigger happy loutish philistines speaks volumes of classic double standards. When attention is being turned to those who maintained their silences whilst the blood of school children ran like a river in the Gambia, he should crops up Mafy Jarju style and denounces it stopping short of blaming Jammeh himself. Well, EB to save you cringing in case you are quizzed about who ordered the shooting of these children, it was Jammeh himself who ordered they should not be tolerated if they dare go out demonstrate. This is the irrefutable reality. To all of you whingeing here about democratic principles, save your breath. If the level of tolerance that is on Gambia-L is being exercised in the same manner in the Gambia, we wouldn't be mourning the murder of school children. Or keep hearing people like Shyngle Nyassi would be tortured for not believing in the criminal idea sentimental claptrap that Jammeh has come to resurrect "the Jola nation", whatever that is supposed to mean, and all Jola speaking people should rally behind him. What is of significance though, is that amicably we agree to disagree and remember that our deeds of today will determine tomorrow. If we are really interested in creating a future for our children that wouldn't force them no tot leave their home lands and loved ones for better deals abroad, then we must be conscientious and above all be rigourous in our defence of the truth whilst hypocrisy and self serving tendencies take the backstage. Lets chew on this. To Katim, you have shown leadership qualities in delisting George for his puerile misdemeanours and re-emphasising that morals are indeed upheld here like in any decent civilised community. In acting the way you did, you have won my admiration and proven Gambia-L's critics wrong again. If only the barbarous regime back home practises the same qualities, we would be talking of different things as of the future of our country. To George Sarr aka Machiavelli [Makavelli] please remember in the end, the means doesn't always justify the end. If you had read Machiavelli's political thought more, you would notice the most stringent regime he placed as a prerequisite before a dose cynicism/questinable means could be used as a tool for campaigns to meet a political end. Please do not give the likes of Tombong an angle to hold over our heads. Stay true bro...... I feel you. You will be missed. Wishing y'all a blissful weekend. Hamjatta Kanteh hkanteh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------