Yus, Even though I donīt agree with you totally, I still respect your opinion. How could you said/ think that the teacher is not to be blame of what happened to Ebrima Barry ? Are you trying to say that the fire service would have arrested Ebrima regardless of the teacherīs reporting ? Canīt you simple ask yourself about how did the fire service get in the picture ? Donīt you think that if the teacher hadnīt report Ebrima to the fire service, the fire service wouldnīt have arrested Ebrima and if the fire service hadnīt arrested him, then there wouldnīt be no torturing or killing. If Ebrima was giving the teacher no end of trouble, then why didnīt the teacher follow the school procedure? Which is reporting the case to the principle. Even if the matter had been reported to the principle and nothing was done about it, then the teacher should have taken the matter to the Department of education. Forsterīs school is an institution under the Department of education like all the other schools. I donīt think the problem between the teacher & Ebima was a civil case but a disciplinary one. But even if it was a civil case, the teacher was barging at a wrong tree. I īm not underrating the fire service but if Iīm not wrong , their duty is to put off the fire and assist the victims.We have the police to step in when the matter is getting out of hand or someone is violating the law. Youīre talking about calling the law to control the unruly students.Since when do teachers start calling the law to control the students ? What about the good old method which was used when you & I plus many others were going to school, which is to suspend or expel a student for disobeying ? Rather suspension or expulsion than torturing and killing a student. What bothers me a lot is that what has the fire service to do with how to discipline a student. I remember reading one of the newspapers that Ebrimaīs father went to the fire service and asked for his sonīs whereabout and the only answer he got from one of the senior officer was that your son is rude. We will discipline him and shave his hair. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT ? Will shaving Ebrimaīs hair make him a better student ? I remember fully that there were parents who reported teachers to the police for beating their kids. And some family members even took the law in their own hands and attacked the accused teacher physically.But that also is out of proportion because two wrongs donīt make right.I remember fully too that there was an officer at Serrekunda police station whose method of welcoming people at the station was a slap.I think youīre right with the name Kujabi and because of he slapped people, he got this nick-name " obey and complain ".You are also right with GNA because of my personal experiences. I have several times withnessed some members of the GNA in a uniform behaved in a way which no " officer or soldier with different " should behave like that.About the GNA is another topic which we can discuss next time because I am not a pro army. Youīre also right that the kind of expression of the autopsy report that the doctor gave was and is still unclear to many people.Why the doctor didnīt use the language or expression people will understand instead of making people to rush to their dictionaries? Finally I thank you for your concern and your maturity way of discussing issues at hand without name calling or fauld play. Kibily. **Peace and respect** ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------