Mr.Saidy, please take a break and relax...are u the defending attorney for mr secka, whom we all very well understand/understood can fight his own battle without your misconceived convictions. take a hike mate and concentrate on what u are paid to do....Take care of the TV& RADIO PLEASE, Mr Tombong Jamus Jammeh... Kiottos Peter >From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: "Cheyassin Secka" reacts to the "Coms" Wadda issue! >Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:52:05 PDT > >Ebrima Ceesay, > >There is nothing in your posting that suggests that the email could have >come from somebody else other than Pap Cheyassin Secka. Reading your >posting >suggests that you actually received the email in question from Pap >Cheyassin >Secka. Why didn't you do your own investigation as a journalist before you >forwarded it to the list? Secondly, the email seems to imply that you have >some sort of relationship with Pap Cheyassin Secka to the extend that he >addresses you as "Ebrima" and not Mr. Ceesay. Have you ever received an >email or any other type of correspondence from Pap Cheyassin Secka since >his >appointment as Secretary of State for Justice? The answer is NO. So why >would you all of a sudden receive an unsolicited email from Pap Cheyassin >Secka, without investigating and verifying the authenticity of the email? >All you could have done is call him and find out if he is the author to the >email. You credibility is at stake here, whether you admit or not. To many >others, and me this is forgery at best. > >I do not have anything personal against you. We defer in our political >inclination especially regarding the present government, but I will never >knowingly tarnish your image or call you names. I was just surprise when >Pap >Cheyassin said he never sent an email from you. Even if the email was from >an insider, the fact of the matter is you sent it to this list as one from >Pap Cheyassin Secka. This very serious! > > >PEACE > >TOMBONG > > > >>From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: "Cheyassin Secka" reacts to the "Coms" Wadda issue! >>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:56:39 GMT >> >>Tombong Saidy: >> >>You see, stop under-estimating the intelligence of the members of the >>Gambia-L. Believe me, people on the List are not fools! In fact, they are >>smarter than you can imagine. >> >>My brother, you have this habit of dividing the list, or diverting >>attention, for instance, whenever your monster boss Yaya Jammeh is being >>mercilessly exposed as a corrupt tyrant on the list. >> >>And now, because the current attention on the L is on me, but more >>importantly, given the fact that some of the comments on the list are very >>critical of me, you then decided to chip in - to send in an e-mail, saying >>that Cheyassin Secka told you that he did not write the e-mail I posted to >>the L - which was signed in his name - so that those on the L who are >>critical of me can also use your "bait" as a way to do further attacks on >>me. >> >>Tombong Saidy, I sincerely believe that you might have even convinced Pap >>Cheyassin Secka that now was a very good time to deny writing that e-mail, >>so that more people on the L, can attack me, or question my integrity. >> >>Well, Tombong, I can assure you that the members of L are smarter than >>you. >>For three weeks now, the e-mail, purportedly written by "Cheyassin Secka" >>was on the L, and neither you nor Cheyassin Secka himself denied owning it >>until now, when I am the subject of attention/controversy on the L. >> >>So, Tombong, you have come again to divide the list. By the way, tell me, >>this time around, who is your "bait" meant for? Who do you want to catch? >> >>Tombong Saidy, you can never succeed in tarnishing my integrity, not this >>time around. Anyway, the good thing is that there are some many computer >>experts on Gambia L these days; so they can easily track down or trace >>where >>the e-mail in question had come from. >> >>They may not know who wrote it, but they can easily trace where the e-mail >>in question, was sent from. And, in fact, if you look at the caption of >>that >>e-mail purportedly written by "Cheyassin Secka", I had put Cheyassin's >>name >>IN QUOTES: "Cheyassin Secka". >> >>And even if you look at the caption of very posting you sent today - >>reproduced below - and which posting I am now reacting to, you'll see that >>Cheyassin Secka's name was in fact in quotes: "Cheyassin Secka" >> >>So, even assuming that SoS Cheyassin Secka didn't write the e-mail in >>question, I still haven't committed any wrong journalistically once his >>name >>was put in quotes - "Cheyassin Secka". But I suppose you wouldn't know >>this >>rule/precept in Journalism, because you are not a trained one. Why not ask >>Jainaba Nyang or Bora Mboge to lecture you on this one? >> >>In conclusion, I call on Momodou Camara, Manjie Nyang, Yusupha Jow, Katim >>Touray to check the IP number of the e-mail in question, and report to the >>L >>where it came from. They may not know who wrote the e-mail in question if >>the real Cheyassin Secka claimed that he did not write it; but they will >>surely know where the e-mail was actually sent from. They will, for sure, >>know the machine from where it was sent from. >> >>And, Gambia-L, given the content of the e-mail in question - and also >>having >>regard to its explicit nature - I am convinced that it indeed came from >>Cheyassin himself or an insider in the Ministry of Justice. >> >>Saul Khan: I saw your comments on the Ebou Taal saga, but I believe you >>missed the point. I reacted to Mambuna Bojang on the grounds of >>principles. >>Sal Taal sent me a private e-mail and asked me, in the name of >>"transparency", to forward it to the L. He also wrote clearly that he was >>"awaiting" my reply. >> >>Now, Saul Khan, consider this: Salieu Taal's castigating e-mail was on the >>L >>for two days, but neither you nor Mambuna Bojang wrote anything to the >>effect that Sal's e-mail shouldn't have been sent to the L. I am sure a >>few >>members of the L were in fact happy that I was being attacked in that >>manner. >> >>Now, when it was my turn to reply Salieu, I was now being told by Mambuna >>that I should have sent my e-mail to Sal privately. What is the >>justification here? Why didn't you or Mambuna come out and object when Sal >>or his sister sent in their e-mails? >> >>You read both Sal's and Fatou Taal's insulting e-mails without saying >>nothing for two days at least, but when it was my legal right to reply, >>you >>and Mambuna came out to lecture me on the laws of privacy. Don't get me >>wrong: I believe the two of you had a valid point to make, but I am >>questioning the timing your postings came. And postings were addressed to >>me >>alone, none was addressed to Sal or his sister >> >>Frankly, if Mambuna, or you, wrote your observation immediately after >>Sal's >>or Fatou's e-mails were posted to the L, then I could have understood. But >>you kept quiet for two days until when I replied and now you want to >>lecture >>me on the laws of privacy. Where is the fairness here? You see my point? >>Anyway, I hope we can now move on and join efforts/hands to try and unseat >>the dictator in Kanilai. >> >>Mambuna Bojang, my apologies to you nonetheless if you found my earlier >>comments offensive. As I always say, The Gambia is a small society and we >>are all one big family. So we must demand to live in continued peace and >>harmony. I was in fact "surprised" last night when someone called me from >>London to say that you are Amie Bojang-Sissoho's brother. >> >>Well, Amie was a colleague and a good sister for that matter. In fact, >>very >>recently, I went to visit her when she came from Southampton, UK, to spend >>a >>weekend at Ndey Jobarteh's flat. So I'll call ask her later this afternoon >>and ask her to make peace between the two of us. (laugh) >> >>Ebrima Ceesay >>Birmingham, UK. >> >> >>>From: TOMBONG SAIDY <[log in to unmask]> >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: "Cheyassin Secka" reacts to the "Coms" Wadda issue! >>>Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 02:34:19 PDT >>> >>>Ebrima Ceesay, >>> >>>You wrote: >>> >>> >>>I spoke to Mr. Pap Cheyassin Secka and showed him your email and the >>>email >>>you claimed he wrote. The man categorically denied ever writing such an >>>email. He has been following GAMTEL for sometime now to get him online. >>>GAMTEL will get him connected this week and has also assigned him an >>>email >>>address, which he has not yet used. If the Attorney General denies ever >>>sending an email, then where does this email come from? How can you claim >>>that the email was written by Pap Cheyassin Secka and addressed to you? >>>The >>>email address >>>q [log in to unmask] does not belong to Pap Cheyassin Secka or is this from >>>any >>>imaginary Pap Cheyassin Secka just as your sources are imaginary? This is >>>a >>>serious crime, especially as a journalist. This is not impersonation, but >>>forgery at best. >>> >>>Credibility is the most important quality for a journalist to have. >>> >>> >>>PEACE >>> >>>TOMBONG >>> >>>________________________________________________________________________ >>>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >>>Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>________________________________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >>Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------