>From: Lexington Area Muslim Network <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: [log in to unmask] >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: From the Desk of Ahmad Deedat >Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:04:16 -0400 > >________________________________________________________________________ > >Lexington-Net * Lexington Area Muslim Network * http://leb.net/lexington >________________________________________________________________________ > >From: <[log in to unmask]> > >From the Desk of Shaikh Ahmad Deedat,as dictated to his Secretary: > >Straight from the book of Ezekiel Chapter 23 in the Bible (English-NIV) > >The word of the LORD came to me: >2"Son of man, there were two women, daughters of the same mother. >3They became prostitutes in Egypt, engaging in prostitution from their >youth. >In that land their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed. >4The older was named Oholah, and her sister was Oholibah. They were mine >and >gave birth to sons and daughters. Oholah is Samaria, and Oholibah is >Jerusalem. >5"Oholah engaged in prostitution while she was still mine; and she lusted >after her lovers, the Assyrians--warriors >6clothed in blue, governors and commanders, all of them handsome young men, >and mounted horsemen. >7She gave herself as a prostitute to all the elite of the Assyrians and >defiled herself with all the idols of everyone she lusted after. >8She did not give up the prostitution she began in Egypt, when during her >youth men slept with her, caressed her virgin bosom and poured out their >lust upon her. >9"Therefore I handed her over to her lovers, the Assyrians, for whom she >lusted. >10They stripped her naked, took away her sons and daughters and killed her >with the sword. She became a byword among women, and punishment was >inflicted on her. >11"Her sister Oholibah saw this, yet in her lust and prostitution she was >more >depraved than her sister. >12She too lusted after the Assyrians--governors and commanders, warriors in >full dress, mounted horsemen, all handsome young men. >13I saw that she too defiled herself; both of them went the same way. >14"But she carried her prostitution still further. She saw men portrayed on >a >wall, figures of Chaldeans [1] portrayed in red, >15with belts around their waists and flowing turbans on their heads; all of >them looked like Babylonian chariot officers, natives of Chaldea. [2] >16As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to >them >in Chaldea. >17Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust >they >defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them >in disgust. >18When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her nakedness, I >turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. >19Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her >youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. >20There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of >donkeys >and whose emission was like that of horses. >21So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom >was >caressed and your young breasts fondled. [3] >22"Therefore, Oholibah, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will stir >up >your lovers against you, those you turned away from in disgust, and I will >bring them against you from every side-- >23the Babylonians and all the Chaldeans, the men of Pekod and Shoa and Koa, >and all the Assyrians with them, handsome young men, all of them governors >and commanders, chariot officers and men of high rank, all mounted on >horses. >24They will come against you with weapons, [4] chariots and wagons and with >a >throng of people; they will take up positions against you on every side >with >large and small shields and with helmets. I will turn you over to them for >punishment, and they will punish you according to their standards. >25I will direct my jealous anger against you, and they will deal with you >in >fury. They will cut off your noses and your ears, and those of you who are >left will fall by the sword. They will take away your sons and daughters, >and those of you who are left will be consumed by fire. >26They will also strip you of your clothes and take your fine jewelry. >27So I will put a stop to the lewdness and prostitution you began in Egypt. >You will not look on these things with longing or remember Egypt anymore. >28"For this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am about to hand you over to >those you hate, to those you turned away from in disgust. >29They will deal with you in hatred and take away everything you have >worked >for. They will leave you naked and bare, and the shame of your prostitution >will be exposed. Your lewdness and promiscuity >30have brought this upon you, because you lusted after the nations and >defiled >yourself with their idols. >31You have gone the way of your sister; so I will put her cup into your >hand. >32"This is what the Sovereign LORD says: "You will drink your sister's cup, >a >cup large and deep; it will bring scorn and derision, for it holds so much. >33You will be filled with drunkenness and sorrow, the cup of ruin and >desolation, the cup of your sister Samaria. >34You will drink it and drain it dry; you will dash it to pieces and tear >your >breasts. I have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD. >35"Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Since you have forgotten >me >and thrust me behind your back, you must bear the consequences of your >lewdness and prostitution." >36The LORD said to me: "Son of man, will you judge Oholah and Oholibah? >Then >confront them with their detestable practices, >37for they have committed adultery and blood is on their hands. They >committed >adultery with their idols; they even sacrificed their children, whom they >bore to me, [5] as food for them. >38They have also done this to me: At that same time they defiled my >sanctuary >and desecrated my Sabbaths. >39On the very day they sacrificed their children to their idols, they >entered >my sanctuary and desecrated it. That is what they did in my house. >40"They even sent messengers for men who came from far away, and when they >arrived you bathed yourself for them, painted your eyes and put on your >jewelry. >41You sat on an elegant couch, with a table spread before it on which you >had >placed the incense and oil that belonged to me. >42"The noise of a carefree crowd was around her; Sabeans [6] were brought >from >the desert along with men from the rabble, and they put bracelets on the >arms of the woman and her sister and beautiful crowns on their heads. >43Then I said about the one worn out by adultery, `Now let them use her as >a >prostitute, for that is all she is.' >44And they slept with her. As men sleep with a prostitute, so they slept >with >those lewd women, Oholah and Oholibah. >45But righteous men will sentence them to the punishment of women who >commit >adultery and shed blood, because they are adulterous and blood is on their >hands. >46"This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Bring a mob against them and give >them over to terror and plunder. >47The mob will stone them and cut them down with their swords; they will >kill >their sons and daughters and burn down their houses. >48"So I will put an end to lewdness in the land, that all women may take >warning and not imitate you. >49You will suffer the penalty for your lewdness and bear the consequences >of >your sins of idolatry. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD." > > >20. INCEST: “Sexual intercourse between two persons who are too closely >related.” (New Collins Dictionary). For example, between father and >daughter, son and mother, father-in-law and daughter-in-law, brother and >sister, etc. INCEST IN GOD’S BOOK (?) BETWEEN A FATHER AND HIS DAUGHTERS: >(a) “That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father >Lot) >wine to drink and the older daughter had INTERCOURSE with him ... “The next >day the older daughter said to her sister, I slept with him last night. now >let’s get him drunk again tonight, and you sleep with him. Then each of us >will have a child by our father. So that night they got him drunk and the >younger daughter had INTERCOURSE with him ... “In this way both of Lot’s >daughters became PREGNANT by their father. “ GENESIS 19:33-35 (From the >“Good News Bible- In Today’s English”). In the older Versions, like the >King >James and the Roman Catholic Versions, “SEXUAL INTERCOURSE” is vaguely >described as “COLLECTING THE SEED OF OUR FATHER.” INCEST BETWEEN MOTHER AND >SON: (b) “While Jacob (Israel) was living in the land, Reuben (his >firstborn, his eldest son) had SEXUAL >INTERCOURSE with Bilhah, his father’s concubine. GENESIS 35:22. The older >Versions of the Bible, use the word, “lay” for SEXUAL INTERCOURSE. INCEST >BETWEEN FATHER-IN-LAW AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW: © “When Judah saw her (Tamar, >his >daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, because she had covered >her face. “He went over to her at the side of the road and said, “ALL >RIGHT, >HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE?” (He did not know that she was his daughter-in-law) >{The words in parenthesis i.e. within brackets from He did not know to >daughter-in-law are not in the original Hebrew manuscripts. They are the >editors g loss.} > >“She said, what will you give me?” (To have sex with me) ‘He answered, I >WILL SEND YOU A YOUNG GOAT FROM MY FLOCK “She said, “All right, if you will >give me something to keep as a pledge until you send the ,goat. ‘ . . He >gave them (the pledges) to her. Then had INTERCOURSE, and she became >pregnant GENESIS 38: 15-18 (Quoted from the “Good News Bible”). CONCUBINE >and WIFE are synonymous terms in the Bible. Look for it in the index under >“KETURAH” (the third wife of Abraham). Out of this incestuous relationship >between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who were >destined to become the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ see Matthew 1:3; >“And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar . . . INCEST AND RAPE BETWEEN >BROTHER AND SISTER (d) “ . . he took hold of her (Thamar, his sister, not >to >be confused with Tamar in “c” above,, and said unto her, Come lie with me >(have sex with me), my sister. “And she answered him, Nay, my brother >(Amnon, one of the sons of David, the man after God’s own heart) do not >force me . . . “But he would not listen to her, and since he was stronger >than she was, he overpowered her and RAPED her (his sister). “ 2 Samuel >13:5-14 WHOLESALE RAPE AND INCEST BETWEEN SON AND HIS MOTHERS! (e) So they >set up a tent for Absalom (another son of King David) on the palace roof, >and in the sight of everyone, Absalom went in and had INTERCOURSE with his >father’s concubines “ 2 SAMUELS 16:22 >46. SODOMY: The Bible’s reason why human beings become lesbians and >homosexuals ‘Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and WORSHIPPED and >SERVED the creature (like men and monkeys) more than the Creator . . . >“BECAUSE THEY DO THIS (worshipping men and monkeys), God has given them >over >to shameful passions. Even women pervert the natural use of their sex by >unnatural acts (like lesbianism and bestiality). “In the same way. . . the >men burn with passion for one another (as sodomites and homosexuals) . . . >ROMANS 1:25-27 (The Good News Bible). >47. SONS OF GOD: The Bible ascribes sons by the tons to God. (a) ‘Which >was >the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, >which >was the SON OF GOD.” LUKE 3:38 (b) “That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters >of men that they were fair; and they took wives of all which they chose. “. >. when the SONS OF GOD came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare >children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of >renown.” GENESIS 6:2 and 4 (c) “ . . Thus- saith the Lord, Israel is MY SON >even my FIRSTBORN.” EXODUS 4:22 (d) “ . . and Ephraim is my FIRSTBORN,” >JEREMIAH 31:9 (e) “ . . Thou (o David) ART MY SON; this day have I (God) >BEGOTTEN thee. “ PSALMS 2:7 (TONS A ton is 2000 lbs weight, that is about a >thousand kilograms.) (“FIRST BORN:” How can there be two “firstborns”?) >(“BEGOTTEN” How can God beget David at the age of forty? “This day’?) > >(f) “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the SONS OF GOD. >‘ ROMANS 8:14 >48. SWINE: The flesh of the swine forbidden _ (a) “Of their flesh (of >the >swine) shall ye NOT EAT, and their carcass ye shall NOT TOUCH; they are >unclean to you “ LEVITICUS 11:8 > >Jesus (pbuh) destroyed 2000 pigs to heal one man— (b) “And forthwith Jesus >gave them leave (permission). And the unclean spirits (the devils) went >out, >and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place >into the sea (they were about two thousand); and were choked in the sea >MARK >5:13 > >How to use COMBAT KIT. >http://www.islamicresources.com/combatkit/Combat.htm > >From the Desk of Shaikh Ahmad Deedat, >as dictated to his Secretary. >ISLAMIC PROPAGATION CENTRE INTERNATIONAL, >BIN-LA-DIN CENTRE 124 QUEEN STREET DURBAN 4001 >REP. OF. 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