Jaw, Be careful with these views, because I think you're latching unto a distorted view of what happened between myself and Ebou Jallow, and my character. This was the case: Halifa Sallah and Joe Sambou replied to some postings of Ebou Jallow. I told both to ignore the guy given his record. He went on his usual antics, quoting "sources" who "told him" I'm a "loser" and even forwarding a private mail from someone with my last name. (Apparently that guy escaped Yaya's death squad by the skin of his teeth!) But in any case, I said what I thought of the whole issue, and moved on. And I've stated that clearly LAST week. End of story as far as I'm concern. So, this whole cutlass/"confrontation" thing is really baffling to me. I just can't imagine where this idea is coming from. Don't you think I have better things to do than to confront Ebou Jallow? And regarding this leadership thing, you're making too many wrong assumptions. Who ever said I want to be one? In truth, we don't really know each other too well. (It's been 4/5? years since we first met, and our phone conversations don't seem to be doing the ice-crushing properly.) So, I can understand the terrible misconceptions you have. I don't think it does me any justice in reality. But if I were to become a leader in some hypothetical country, the last thing I'll do is throw somebody out, because they don't see things the way I do. If one is in the habit of ingratiating oneself with the powers that be through lying, and other slimy tactics, such a person will most definitely not feel welcome around me. I simply don't kiss up to anyone, and I don't let anyone kiss up to me. It's that simple! If you've got something useful to say, I'm all ears. But if one's only motive is to massage my ego, one may be appealing to the wrong man. That attitude really annoys me. And we do have too many people who make a living leading such phony lives. Regarding Essa Sey, he was not "thrown out," Jaw. Essa, like most of the people around Yaya Jammeh, makes a living peddling lies. That's easy to do in Gambia. Not on this List. Most of the contributors here have some education, and can tell when someone is peeing on them. This was simply the case with Essa. He lied about many things, and some of us did not only tell him, we PROVED to him that he was lying. (Note the difference.) Because Essa knew there is NO WAY he'll be able to get away with lying to this distro without being challenged, he VOLUNTARILY de-listed. As far as I know, the man is welcome anytime, as long as he is ready to respect others' intelligence by desisting from peddling lies on behalf on Yaya Jammeh. So, it's not accurate to say that he was forced out. Any Yaya supporter is welcome as long as he/she obeys the ground rules: speak the truth, and NEVER try defending the indefensible. Too bad the previous ones found out the hard way. I have no doubt that many Gambians are like Essa Sey. That's the tragic truth. I can handle that. What I CANNOT accept is when people try to impose their indiscipline on me as if it's normal. And this has been my problem with many Gambians. You may want to check with people in The Gambia Support Group, 'cause I think you're coming from that angle. You see, freedom is not absolute. It's relative. If we agree to meet at 3pm, and I leave my business to make it, and I have to wait three hours for you to show up (if you do at all.) And that happens a few more times. YES, I do have a serious problem with that attitude! A grown man voluntarily agrees to do something at a specific time, but you have to be a baby sitter to get him to follow through. What's that about? I don't waste my own time, why should I let anyone else waste it? Or the fact that when Jaw Manneh is around, she's perfect. But as soon as she turns her back, she's a devil. I prefer telling you to your face what's on my mind? That is clearly not the predominant thinking in that org., 'cause some people have turned back-stabbing into an art form. I simply refuse to be drawn into it. So, in truth, who's shoving his thinking down who's throat? And that's the typical Gambian scene! But the tragedy here is that, you're finding fault with people like me who expect others to respect their own VOLUNTARY commitments, or at least to have the decency to tell Jaw Manneh what problems they have with her, as opposed to spreading garbage behind her. I make no presumptions about being perfect. Never have, never will. All I demand is that you do what YOU promised to do, rectify someone directly, or at least stand by the truth. And if all Gambians are like the "FJManneh, Essa Seys, and Ebou Jallows," then that's simply too bad. I have absolutely no wish or inclination to sink to such level. People can do whatever they choose as long as they don't encroach upon my rights. I call it principles. Others can call it whatever they want. But more importantly, others can decide what side to join. That decision is theirs to make, and it doesn't cost me any sleep. No hard feelings Jaw. I just don't understand where you're getting these ideas. Saul. >Ebou, >I am so very glad to know that you don't want to be a ninja! Saul would >have >advocating for >democracy,rule of law, fairness, decency, intergrity and consistency. How >about a little patience and accommodation! You cannot for your bravery for >comming out in the open, denouncing and really am sure we will also ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface ----------------------------------------------------------------------------