Thank you Kalilu and Pasamba for the information about Yaya's unchanged cold heart. To be honest with you guys, I felt the same way about him and was therefore, surprised about the information concerning his change of heart. That was why I needed clarification. Ramatoulie >From: kalilu camara <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: NY's Demonstration prove to be effective! Yaya is changing? >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:34:11 GMT > >Ramatoulie, >This guy is very illusive.Last year after the UN meeting, Mr.Jammeh met >with >concerned citizens he went to Banjul and temporarily dissolve the infamous >'youth wing of july 24',just to praise them in his sixth feet deep speech >at >the state house just months before meeting the united nations this year. >Many of us were dumb found to know that this group is still operational in >the Gambia.Which he vowed to dissolve for good. >I hope that he changes because its very apparent by his initiative or >Gods our land will see better days,when each Gambian life is respected >and Gambian children will not look next door and wish they had the peace >and freedom found in Dakar Senegal. > More than i hope for Jammehs temporal miraclous change,i hope that >the few Gambians muslims that have what it takes will tie him down and >transport him to mecca in secrete that he may have his 'will' to be close >to >Allah. And perhaps pray and fast for a week that he may see that he is not >Rasululie or anyone close to HIM! Most of his miscalculations are fed to >him >by deranged dancers and pysdo intelectuals who have lost their power to >compassionate for others. > Their hearts either numbed by experience or lost in religious >fanatism and imagined rewards will not open to see that it matters what we >do on to each other right here on earth! > Like the Nazi murderers they site fear and chain of command to blow >their younger brothers out of the face of the only existence >they got. > Tell you the truth it will take Gambians to change Gambia the only >change Mr Jammeh knows how is to change title and clothing and other >peoples >jobs.The only problem with his way of changing titles is he only know to go >up the ladder when it comes to pampering himself. > My only fear is if one of these days he gets up and call himself >Allah! That Gambians close to him will not believe and start worshiping him >by looking upwards instead of the right way handed down to us! > > kalilu > > > >>From: Ramatoulie Gillen <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: NY's Demonstration prove to be effective! Yaya is changing? >>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 04:19:03 GMT >> >>According to sources, after the New York incident, Yaya returned home and >>gave students twelve school buses. He then held a meeting claiming that >>from now on, his interest is the happiness of the students. He promised >>that >>students and especially women shall not be hurt or killed under any >>circumstances. This last statement was particularly addressed to his crew. >>Is this true? >> >>Ramatoulie >> >> >> >>>From: Ramatoulie Gillen <[log in to unmask]> >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: BARRY'S DEATH WAS CAUSED BY A CHRONIC DISEASE >>>Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 03:15:50 GMT >>> >>>There is no need to waste time figuring out What killed Ebrima Barry. We >>>all >>>know that he was severally beaten to death by Yaya and his executioners. >>>We >>>also know that all the authorities involve in this case, including the >>>coroner, the judge and prosecutors are terrorized and tamed by Yaya and >>>his >>>murderers. It is sad, but we will unjustly loose this case. >>> >>>The question is how do we eliminate Yaya Jammeh, so that there will be no >>>more death Gambians. So far there is optimism in our efforts, but as we >>>all >>>know, it's not enough. >>> >>>Ramatoulie: gambian.com's anchor >>> >>> >>>>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> >>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>>><[log in to unmask]> >>>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>>Subject: BARRY'S DEATH WAS CAUSED BY A CHRONIC DISEASE >>>>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:23:57 EDT >>>> >>>>Please see the following report from the Independent. I cannot believe >>>>this. >>>>Please let someone tell me that this is not about to happen. The >>>>authorities >>>>are not about to cover this case up. They murdered poor Ebrima Barry and >>>>now >>>>some corrupt doctors are trying to cook up some fishy cause of death. I >>>>hope >>>>the Cuban doctors that participated in the autopsy will also be called >>>>to >>>>testify under rigorous examination. This is pathetic. Where is this Dr. >>>>Sam >>>>character from? I am not a doctor but I would have thought that if >>>>Ebrima >>>>Barry had such a chronic illness, serious enough to cause his death, the >>>>symptoms of the illness would have manifested itself to his family and >>>>friends. I hope the journalists made a mistake in their reporting >>>>because >>>>I >>>>just cannot figure out how someone can call himself a doctor and then >>>>make >>>>such ridiculous medical conclusions. This is outrageous and I must say >>>>that >>>>the government is toying with another demonstration. Their bogus >>>>commission >>>>of inquiry report should teach them that the April 10 and 11 incidents >>>>occurred because the Gambian public was denied justice in the Ebrima >>>>Barry >>>>case. They are trying very hard to repeat the same mistake. Commonsense >>>>tells us that Ebrima Barry was murdered by those firemen. So why are the >>>>authorities going to such lengths to try and ensure that the firemen go >>>>unpunished for their crimes? I hope the prosecutor in this case >>>>(hand-picked >>>>by Secka) counters Dr. Sam's dubious testimony with expert testimony >>>>showing >>>>that Ebrima Barry's death could not have been caused by what Dr. Sam and >>>>those Cuban doctors are saying. The prosecutor should do some research >>>>on >>>>the symptoms of chronic hepatitis and check whether Ebrima Barry >>>>suffered >>>>from such symptoms prior to his murder. This is insane. Surely the >>>>beating >>>>and the torture Ebrima Barry sustained had something to do with his >>>>death. >>>>Even if Barry had an existing illness, that does not absolve his >>>>attackers >>>>from culpability. Even novice lawyers (let alone judges) are aware of >>>>the >>>>legal maxim that 'you should take your victim as you find him'. Meaning, >>>>even if Barry had hepatitis and was killed by a blow which would not >>>>kill >>>>a >>>>person that does not suffer from such ailment, his attackers would still >>>>be >>>>guilty of murder. What these slimy characters are trying to do is to >>>>neutralize that maxim and declare hepatitis as the sole cause of death, >>>>as >>>>opposed to a catalyst. For starters, prosecutors have to challenge the >>>>conclusion of Dr. Sam that Barry suffered from chronic hepatitis. If Sam >>>>turn out to be right, the prosecutor should surely be able to prove that >>>>hepatitis was not the sole cause of death. The blows Barry sustained as >>>>the >>>>result of the torture, was the cause of death. Albeit, hepatitis might >>>>have >>>>played a role. This is simply unbelievable. Especially if you take into >>>>consideration the fact the Sam was probably a prosecution witness. You >>>>have >>>>government officials coming in to sabotage the government's (the >>>>people's) >>>>case. Only in Gambia. >>>>KB >>>>_______________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>>BARRY'S DEATH WAS CAUSED BY A CHRONIC DISEASE >>>>- says chief pathologist >>>> >>>>The chief pathologist at the Royal Victoria Hospital Dr. Thomas Sam has >>>>told >>>>the High Court that the late Ebrima Barry's death was caused by a >>>>chronic >>>>hepatitis of about six months old. >>>> >>>>Dr. Sam was giving evidence on the post mortem report made on Ebrima >>>>Barry >>>>after his death in March 2000 by Dr. Raphael of the Cuban medical team. >>>>Dr. >>>>Sam said that when he returned from a trip to South Africa, a report was >>>>passed on to him, which he said was made in two stages, the preliminary >>>>and >>>>the final. >>>> >>>>He said the preliminary stage was based on what was observed by the >>>>naked >>>>eye while the final was based on a microscopic study carried out by two >>>>Cuban doctors and himself as the head of the unit. Dr. Sam further told >>>>the >>>>court that the report showed excessive bleeding from the liver which he >>>>said >>>>led to a blockage of the blood flow in the lungs. He said it was due to >>>>the >>>>blockage of the blood flow which led to Barry's death, which he said is >>>>normally caused by serious chronic diseases. He however expressed >>>>surprise >>>>that Ebrima Barry was able to be walking about with such a disease. >>>> >>>>Ebrima Barry died on March 9, 2000 while he was student at Forster's >>>>Technical School in Brikama. He was said to have had some problems with >>>>his >>>>teacher who allegedly reported the matter to the Fire Brigade office in >>>>Brikama where some firemen allegedly subjected him to some beating and >>>>torture, which allegedly resulted in his death. >>>> >>>>His death was one of the reasons that led to a confrontation between the >>>>Gambia Students Union (GAMSU) and the authorities calumniating in the >>>>bloody >>>>student disturbances of April 10th and 11th 2000 leading to the death of >>>>more than 14 school children and the maiming of several more as well as >>>>heavy destruction to property. >>>> >>>>The case was presided over Justice T.A Kabalata while the state was >>>>represented by an independent prosecutor Nosa Avan and the fire officers >>>>accused of Ebrima Barry's murder were represented by Lamin Jobarteh, a >>>>private legal practitioner. 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