From [log in to unmask] Sun Nov 19 10:24:37 2000 Received: from [149.68.45.24] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBBE165410048D820F3E495442D1808176; Sun Nov 19 10:23:20 2000 Received: from maelstrom.stjohns.edu (149.68.45.24) by maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:22:17 -0500 Received: from MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU by MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 171827 for [log in to unmask]; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:22:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (64.4.15.168) by maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 13:22:13 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 10:22:00 -0800 Received: from 195.92.194.106 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:22:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.92.194.106] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2000 18:22:00.0331 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BA455B0:01C05255] Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:22:00 GMT Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 21:40:31 GMT Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Attn ML Jassey Conteh: Wishing your mother a speedier .... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I join OB in wishing your mother a speedy recovery. >From: OB Silla <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Attn ML Jassey Conteh: Wishing your mother a speedier .... >Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 23:19:43 EST > >Mr. ML Jassey-Conteh, > >It is good to hear from you after a long silence that you alluded to >earlier >in your piece. It's without a reason of doubt a justified reason for >staying >away from the political fray of the "Bantaba" in order to focus on your >dear >mother's health condition. I join the list members to wish her and all >other >sick people a speedier recovery. > >Your arguments and concerns were well articulated in your e-mail and I >share >them with you. > >Finally, I also listened to a political lecture you recorded on a cassette >a >while back addressing the then Jammeh Cabinet/Government on the way forward >for a better and enviable Gambia. It is a brilliant lecture, and I wish >that >Jammeh listens to the tape or atleast the message is passed onto him. > >God bless us all > >OB Silla. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 14:02:27 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ousainou Ngum <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Fw: [balangbaa] Updated version of the petition for Dumo's release. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kabir: Is this an all-new version or just another edition of the one we've signed here, back in the summer? If at all its the former, then please add my name to the list of signatories. If otherwise, then please disregard this message. Thanks a lot. OUSAINOU M. NGUM Columbus, OH _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? 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Hamjatta,
 
I want to thank you for your incisive commentary. You are a sobering asset to the L and I hope your self-imposed exile to other valuable work would not starve us for long.

 

Let me be the first to dismiss the validity of claims of your pessimism for it is a necessary evil (if evil) in the face of "labours of Indifference". Speak your mind and do not be detoured by such labels.

I agree with the premise and caution in your posting but I wish to make a correction and add dynamism to it.

1) The logic in the Gore-Bush situation is well founded. However, my closeness to the US elections from my vantage point in Volusia county makes me privy to some facts. The Florida election was actually rigged to favor Bush-from the county assignments of counting machines to the submission of fraudulent Military-absentee ballots by persons other than their namesake. The Gore campaign's acceptance of the elctoral college, and the mechanics of individual state elections prior to the elections was with implicit guarantee of an election free of mischief. After the election, Gore still does not have any qualm about the electoral college. The Gore campaign believes that it is more valuable to insist on counting uncounted ballots (about 20,000) rather than contesting theft and mischief to the tune of about 5000 votes. In effect, this approach speeds up the installing of a president with some degree of legitimacy. Not that the challenge of electoral theft and other mischief could not have been proven, but the margin of victory in honouring every Floridian's vote would be insurmountable by theft or mischief. It is a sound legal judgement that takes the higher ground of validating Democracy.

The arguements about the Electoral college rules are not new. Their amendment was just not heretofore urgent because it would not have affected prior elections in the last century. And as you can see, absent the theft and mischief, it would not have been urgent today either. Sorry I spent so much time on this one topic because it is not the crux of your caution. I just thought that we should move away from drawing parallels between the US and what is imagined in The Gambia.
On the main point of your caution, I have always believed that each and every Gambian has implicit rights to agency and it is a Human Right everywhere. The idea of agency hinges on one's pre-requisite acquiescence to the rules governing the choice of an agent, that the agent be of sound mind and body, and that both parties have rights of termination of agency. We elect officials by way of one-person-one-vote elections. Therefore, we must agree on the ground rules for conducting that election. The PIEC or the IEC in its current constitution, can neither conduct elections nor be the custodians of electoral paraphernalia. Who are the return officers? How are they appointed?, How are ballot boxes transported? who supervises the counting of votes? who prints and distributes printed matter germaine to the election? etc. etc. These questions and the acceptance of their answers by all parties or by referendum, establish the pre-requisites to acknowledging the ultimate agent of the people. Therefore, the IEC is as good as the toilet paper for ass-wiping-notwithstanding red-herrings.

 

This advises us and all Gambians that we must not wait until the elections are upon us. We must here and now or forever-after remain silent, protest the validity of the IEC, reconstitute a more representative body with clause for international monitoring, and equal representation of all contestants in polling, return, and other electoral officers. Not even Parliament has a right of agency when we contemplate their re-election or recall. So, in effect I am saying that no one should just sit and hope for a free and fair elections. We have to ensure a Free and Fair election mechanics and procedure in order to effect one.

Cheers!!

 

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I must say that I am surprised that Mr. Sedia Jatta thinks that "such a move contradicts the constitution." We need laws like such to be ammended if they are really in the contradicted in the constitution. I think the government's move here is very smart and very progressive. It might be another form of affirmative action. Ousman Bojang. The Secretary for Education Ann Therese Ndong Jatta has said that the nine-year free basic education provided for girls in URD and CRD is in no way a discrimination against boys. Mrs. Jatta was answering a question from the MP for Wuli Sidia Jatta at the National Assembly yesterday. Mr. Jatta observed that such a move contradicts the Constitution, which demands that there should be free basic education for all. But the Education Secretary noted that the move was taken so as to increase the enrollment rate of girls in that part of the country, where the enrollment of girls is 20 percent lower than boys. She however said that eventually there will be free basic education for both boys and girls, but pointed out that at the moment resources are limited to cater for that ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 22:04:21 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Saul Mbenga <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: INFLUENZA VACCINE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brothers and Sisters, the secret and alternative to such vaccine[s], is to=20 boost up the immune system continually; eating right; exercise; avoid=20 negative/stressful influences or environments and lastly, FASTING=20 regularly..RAMADAN is next week. 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TABLE OF CONTENTS Introduction =20 Why We Assume Vaccines are Safe and Effective =20 Why We Should Question Our Assumptions=20 =20 Safety Issues Vaccines are Based on Unsound Principles Questionable Science The Natural Evolution of Disease Vaccine Propaganda Toxic Vaccine Ingredients and Manufacturing Processes Vaccine Failures The following topics are in the full document =20 =20 Effects of Specific Vaccines=20 =20 The Diphtheria, Pertussis, and Tetanus Vaccines The Polio Vaccines The Chickenpox Vaccine The Flu Vaccine The Hepatitis B Vaccine The Measles/Mumps/Rubella (MMR) Vaccine The HiB Vaccine The Smallpox Vaccine Rotavirus Vaccine and Pneumococcal Vaccine Recombinant Vaccines Lessons of History =20 Provocation Disease=20 =20 Allergies Crib Death (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome or SIDS) Diabetes HIV and AIDS Immunosuppression and Auto-Immune Disease New Diseases Polio Social Violence and Behavioral and Neurological Disorders =20 Activists Speak Out on Vaccine Dangers=20 =20 The Pertussis Vaccine Problems with Temporary Immunity and Benefits of Childhood Disease Vaccine Experimentation on Vulnerable Populations The EZ Measles Medical Fiasco What the Future May Hold Pet Vaccines =20 Economic, Political, and Legal Issues =20 Right to Refuse Vaccination Vaccination as Population Control =20 Holistic Health and Freedom of Choice =20 Appendix: Scientific Peer-Reviewed Studies =20 References =20 Endnotes=20 Note: The information in this document is presented for informational=20 purposes only. It is not intended as a substitute for diagnosis and=20 treatment by a qualified professional. .......GO TO GARYNULL.COM =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 03:24:00 GMT Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dumo Saho Petition Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Kabirr: Please, do add my name to the Dumo Saho latest petition. By the way, I was going through "The Black World Today" Web Page, and came across this article, by chance. Dumo Saho's name is mentioned in it. Anyway, I am forwarding it for your perusal. Brother Tijan Jobarteh: I hope the Journalist (Charisse Waugh) who wrote the story below, did not misquote you. Well, I know you are more than capable/competent to clarify issues if need be. Cheers! Ebrima Ceesay Birmingham, UK. ________________________________________________________________________ Crackdowns in The Gambia By Charisse L. Waugh At the conclusion of President Clinton's trip to Africa last month, he conferred with Hosni Mubarak, President of Egypt, about issues concerning the Northern African region. It was a familiar photo op: An American President and his Egyptian counterpart in grave conversation. Nothing about Clinton's activities in Africa was unfamiliar though, at least not to anyone who has read a newspaper, watched a nightly newscast or a public television documentary here in the last few years. Sierra Leone, Nigeria, and Burundi, the main subjects of those programs, were also the focus of Clinton's diplomatic exercise on the world's second largest continent. There are other African countries, however, which have escaped the radar of the western press. But they too are experiencing a reversal of their human rights, social and economic fortunes. The Gambia is one such country. So tenuous is the human rights situation there, that as Clinton and his entourage were traveling to Africa, a senior producer at The Gambia's state run television station was heading to the U.S. seeking refuge from possible arrest by the Gambia's National Intelligence Agency. Tijan Jobarteh, a U.S. educated journalist who has served as the senior producer at Gambia Television Services for the past six years was attending a communications conference in South Africa when he received word that a colleague with whom he had founded a community center in the Gambia had been arrested with seven others and charged with treason. It was the latest in a number of events which last month prompted Representative John Lewis of Georgia to prepare a written condemnation of the country's increasingly brutal and authoritarian government. Last April, 13 high school students were shot dead by the police while participating in a peaceful demonstration against the death of a 13-year-old boy who died in March while in the custody of fire officers. According to Gambian press reports, the official autopsy showed that the boy had apparently been beaten to death. Also prompting the student protests was the rape in early February of a young girl allegedly by uniformed officers at a sporting event in front of witnesses. No arrests have been made. Crackdowns on the press have become arbitrary and frequent. Last month a popular radio station was firebombed, and its proprietor injured. No one has claimed responsibility for that assault, but it came a few days after President Yah Yah Jammeh, in a speech to youth, threatened the state radio for its broadcasts. "I don't want to be associated with the government anymore," says Jobarteh. "The security forces have been given carte blanche to do what they want. The President is creating another ton-ton macoute," claims the 40 year old journalist in reference to the Gambia's National Intelligence Agency's resemblance to the notorious security forces who showered death over the country of Haiti during the Duvalier regime. Until now, The Gambia has enjoyed reasonably positive press in the U.S. Its most controversial coverage being the question of whether Alex Haley's "Roots" in which Haley claimed Gambian ancestry was authentic or not. Last June, an op-ed article appeared in the Journal of Commerce praising the Gambia's 35-year-old President for "representing hope for a brighter future and an end to the social ethnic and religious scourges that have kept problem-ridden African off the global agenda." The editorial was subsequently entered into the congressional record by three African-American congressmen who visited The Gambia in 1999. Representative Bennie Thompson of Mississippi was part of that entourage along with Representative James Clyburn of South Carolina and Earl Hilliard, a congressman from Alabama. Thompson says he did not see anything amiss during his trip. "At that time the situation had not de-stabilized," said Thompson after learning of the country's current troubles. "We try not to get involved in the political situation of a country anyway. We try to go in and change the quality of life of individuals through the use of foreign aid." Thompson explained that every member of the Congressional Black Caucus has a piece of the "motherland" that they try to help by lobbying for aid here in the U.S. "We have done this for Sierra Leone, and other countries whose governments we don't agree with. Our history is very consistent with this." Jobarteh attended college in the U.S. He earned his Bachelor’s and Master’s in Media Studies from the New School University in New York. After completing his studies in 1994, he returned to his native Gambia. "I was thinking I could contribute something positive," he says. A few months before his arrival, Jammeh, then a 29-year-old army officer, had seized control of the government in a coup that upheld Gambia's reputation for peace. He ousted Dada Diawara the only President to serve since the close of British rule over 30 years ago. By 1995, Jobarteh was made a principle producer at the state run television. He immediately began trying to influence its programming, and changing the format from mainly soccer games and local soap operas to more substantial fare. For example, he aired a documentary on the Million Man March held in Washington, D.C. in 1995. He says: "People loved it. They were calling the station." Buoyed by the enthusiastic response, Jobarteh began scheduling documentary programming every Monday night during prime time. He showed films and videos he had acquired from friends in New York City such as a documentary about Malcolm X by the African-American filmmaker St. Claire Bourne. Subsequent documentary subjects were Kwame Nkrumah, Frantz Fanon and other political and historical figures. "I was trying to find material relevant to the history of Gambia and West Africa. I knew it was successful, because people expressed their opinions in newspapers and to the station itself." In December of 1996 Jobarteh was suspended indefinitely. He believes it was his programming decisions that left him vulnerable. "They couldn't pin me on that though, because what I was showing mirrored their rhetoric," he says referring to the two-year-old government and its youthful President who often praised the virtues of socialism and pan-African values. "They knew I was political, but I was professional." The official reason given by the government for the suspension, according to Jobarteh, was because he refused to interrupt scheduled programming to send a crew to film government officials as they were breaking ground for a new Insurance Institution. The country was about to elect a new President and political campaigning was heavy. Jobarteh who was in charge of coordinating all of the political broadcasts, says he didn't think it was fair to the other candidates to make special arrangements for the government. There were more than 20 different parties vying for the presidency and other offices just two years after the coup. "Fundamentally, I believed we had a new democracy. My guiding principle was to give equal time to everybody. I thought the people could decide for themselves." "I had been out of the country for 10 years. How could I come home and take a stand. All the parties were new anyway." Jobarteh was eventually reinstated to his position. He was attending a conference in South Africa on children's educational television programming when he received an email about his colleague's, Momodou Dumo Sarho, abduction by the National Intelligence Agency. He and Sarho were the main coordinators of a community center they had founded a few years ago for poor youths. The center provided educational and recreational services, and recruited the country's professional class to volunteer as teachers and mentors. About 60% of the youths who participated were girls. "Education for girls is very important in the Gambia," says Jobarteh. "Traditionally this is the group that has been left out." Jobarteh is extremely concerned about the well being of Sarho. "No one has seen him since his arrest. Not his lawyer or his wife. We don't even know if he is alive," Jobarteh says of the 45-year-old community activist. "Here is a man who dedicated his whole life to working for his people and this is what he gets. This is very scary." Instead of returning to the Gambia from the conference in South Africa, Jobarteh took the advice of his family and friends who told him that he should "lay low." He traveled to Sweden and then made his way to New Jersey where he is temporarily living with relatives. While he is here Jobarteh plans on pursuing his Ph.D., but he intends to return home soon. "I'm not fearful of my own life," he says. "I'm fearful about what is happening to my country, and what it is becoming." © 2000 The Black World Today. All Rights Reserved. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 20:02:02 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Bamba Laye Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ous>>Re: Hon Sedia Jatta Vs. Therese Ndong Jatta Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ous, Let's not take Sidias' comment at face value - if indeed the GRTS report is accurate. He's probably looking at it from a different perspective. In as much as I'm trying to avoid being on either side of this issue, I'm inclined to say that the education secretary should've realized that money is not the only reason why some of these parents shy away from taking their daughters to school. Yes, one may argue that this is just one step towards a more elaborate scheme of enticing parents to take their daughters to school. I am in no way against this scheme. Our society can only be prosperous when there is equality in every aspect of life. Let's see if this will in fact work without other incentives for parents. I definitely think it's not just about money. Our society is more complicated than we like to believe sometimes. I would have normally said more on this but I'm too exhausted from a 12-hour day at work. Greetings to Musu and the rest of the family. Abdoulie A. Jallow Toll-free number: 1-888-392-4832(Excite2) Personal extension for v/mail/fax: 291-368-1519 _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? 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(fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 18:22:12 -0500 From: APIC <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Africa: Claiming the 21st Century? Africa: Claiming the 21st Century? Date distributed (ymd): 001116 Document reposted by APIC +++++++++++++++++++++Document Profile+++++++++++++++++++++ Region: Continent-Wide Issue Areas: +economy/development+ Summary Contents: This posting contains a slightly condensed version of an article from the October 2000 issue of Africa Recovery (http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/afrec). The article reviews a report by five international organizations earlier this year claiming "a fragile consensus" on the way ahead for African development. The published report - Can Africa Claim the 21st Century? - can be obtained from the World Bank (http://www.worldbank.org/publications).As the article indicates, sceptics may wonder whether the new jointly authored document reflects a real consensus or a compromise product reflecting a variety of different perspectives. +++++++++++++++++end profile++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 'Can Africa claim the 21st century?' Only by investing in its people, and if the donors change their ways, says a new report Africa Recovery, October 2000 By Ernest Harsch Africa will be able to achieve sustained economic growth only if it invests heavily in its people, both to reduce poverty and enhance the continent's ability to compete globally, argues a major new report published by the World Bank and co-signed by four other institutions working extensively on Africa. In an unusually candid and self-critical assessment, the report, Can Africa Claim the 21st Century?, lays a share of the blame for Africa's limited progress so far on the interventions and policies of the donor institutions themselves, which have left Africans "cash poor and project rich." Few of the arguments in the study are particularly new. Some have previously been raised by the World Bank itself, or by the other contributors to the report -- the African Development Bank, UN Economic Commission for Africa, Global Coalition for Africa and African Economic Research Consortium. What is notable is the extent to which some of the criticisms of structural adjustment in Africa now are being acknowledged by such institutions as the World Bank, which has played a central role in pushing the continent toward sweeping economic liberalization and reduced government activity over the past two decades. Without completely accepting those criticisms, the report recognizes the "limits of narrow [market-driven] approaches," and points to the need for a "strong and capable state." Can Africa Claim the 21st Century? states that the Bretton Woods institutions -- the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) -- have undergone a "watershed change" in their thinking on aid policies. It is an assertion that both World Bank President James Wolfensohn and IMF Managing Director Horst Kohler also have been making. Such declarations have met with some scepticism, as Mr. Kohler discovered during a visit to Senegal in July (see "Open letter to IMF managing director: 'Africa needs to forge a new dream'"**). The study maintains that a "fragile consensus" has emerged between Africa and its donors since the late 1990s. This entails greater African acceptance of the need for macroeconomic stability, market and private-sector promotion, and increased global competitiveness, with the donors in turn agreeing to focus more on social and state institutions, poverty reduction and enhancement of African skills and capacities. Yet significant differences remain. Many Africans continue to chafe at the conditions the financial institutions impose on their governments in order to receive debt relief or development assistance. Recent work on adjustment policies by more than two dozen African economists urges much more attention to promoting industrialization, so that Africa can begin to export a broader range of processed goods and move beyond its current dependence on primary commodities. 'Sound policies' pay off, sometimes Africa must continue on the path of economic and institutional reform, the report states, since without reform its economies will not grow rapidly and without growth poverty will worsen. The reforms undertaken so far "contributed to the resurgence of growth in the second half of the 1990s," asserts the report, while the creation of wider space for private initiative is gradually transforming Africa into "a viable business address" for both external and domestic entrepreneurs. However, the report's claim that policy reform directly spurs higher growth rates is more qualified and nuanced than in the World Bank's 1994 study Adjustment in Africa, which maintained that "adjustment is working." In less categorical terms, Can Africa Claim the 21st Century? says that "some recent studies indicate that adherence to sound policies pays off in the medium term." The report does not explain how an export strategy based mainly on primary commodities will bring any long-term improvements in Africa's basic earning capacity, nor does it explore the environmental consequences of such an approach. Yet even where economic growth is high, there is no evidence that income inequalities have been reduced, the report acknowledges. And if pervasive inequalities are not addressed, "growth will not be sustainable and will not reduce poverty." In contrast to earlier adjustment approaches that emphasized rigourous austerity, the World Bank and its partners now argue that economic reforms should permit a rapid increase in Africans' consumption. In particularly damning terms, the report also says that so far "short-term reforms have failed to address some difficult underlying institutional problems -- and in some cases may have worsened them." Some countries, including Ghana, Kenya, Malawi, Tanzania and Zimbabwe, have built up high domestic debts, in part because financial markets were hastily liberalized before fiscal deficits were brought under control. Meanwhile, tight fiscal restraints, including on public sector salaries, have demoralized public employees. In agriculture, the study notes, policy reforms have opened up domestic and external marketing arrangements, yielding some increases in producer prices to small-scale farmers. However, without improved infrastructure, services and rural institutions, price incentives have had a limited impact, especially at a time of declining world market prices for many of Africa's agricultural exports. Moreover, reductions in government subsidies have doubled or tripled farmers' costs, especially for inputs like fertilizers and pesticides. Role for public sector African countries should do what they can to mobilize private capital, the report repeatedly emphasizes. Yet it also insists that governments and their institutions remain essential players in the continent's security and development, reflecting the donors' shift away from the extreme anti-statist stance that some of them previously urged in Africa. At the most basic level, African states must be able to maintain peace and security. The report notes that one-fifth of all Africans live in countries affected by conflicts, which makes significant improvements in development virtually impossible. ... Since the early 1990s, the study notes, 42 of 48 sub-Saharan countries have held multiparty elections. Yet more needs to be done to make government institutions more representative of their countries' ethnic diversity, decentralize power more effectively to people in local areas, strengthen the rule of law, combat corruption, and boost the morale of civil servants. Beyond providing clear legal norms and regulatory systems to help private sectors develop, African states also need to play direct and active roles in areas essential to development. Infrastructure projects -- railways, roads, electricity, telecommunications, and so on -- can be enormously expensive and often are not immediately profitable. So in such cases, the report acknowledges, there may be a need for the public sector to take a lead. One obstacle to agricultural growth, the study notes, has been the relatively low level of public investments. By providing essential public goods, such as rural roads, African governments can make it easier for private businesses to enter neglected markets. Better health and education also are vital public goods that governments must guarantee if their economies are to become more productive and competitive. [The report] devotes two chapters to "investing in people" and combating poverty, including through "distributional" measures. It asserts that while there may be some opportunities for enlisting private funding for education and health, these sectors require significantly greater public funding. The report does not address the common criticism that early structural adjustment programmes contributed to cuts in government funding for social sectors, a point that the UN Children's Fund, among others, began raising sharply in the late 1980s. It does acknowledge that attempts to shift the costs to local communities have been harmful. "Though the poor are willing to pay for human development investments, their resources are limited," it says. "User fees have deterred primary school enrolment and health centre use." ... Exporting more primary commodities As in most adjustment programmes, Can Africa Claim the 21st Century? argues strongly that African economies must open up more fully to international trade and that governments should implement policies designed explicitly to promote exports. It claims that in most African countries an "anti-export bias is still considerable," compared with other developing regions. It also states that if the continent had maintained the same share of world trade it held in the late 1960s, Africa today would be earning an additional $70 bn a year. Yet world market prices have not provided Africa with much incentive, the report acknowledges. Between 1970 and 1997, the cumulative losses in terms of trade (the purchasing power of export earnings) were equivalent to a staggering 120 per cent of GDP for non-oil exporting African countries. This was because most African countries depend overwhelmingly on the export of just one or two primary commodities, many of which have seen their world prices plummet. The solution, the study argues, is for African countries to diversify their economies and the range of goods they export. It goes so far as to chastise Africa for its "failure to diversify exports," even though many African governments have for years pushed for just such export diversification, often in face of closed Northern markets and donor indifference or outright hostility. A few African countries so far have succeeded in building up modest manufacturing sectors: C"te d'Ivoire, Ghana, Kenya and Zimbabwe. South Africa has a strong manufacturing base, created through the apartheid regime's interventionist industrialization policies. But for the bulk of Africa, diversification into manufactured exports will be extremely difficult, the report emphasizes, citing the very high transport, electricity and other infrastructure costs in Africa, compared with other regions. Therefore, the World Bank and its partner institutions maintain, for most African countries the possibility of diversifying beyond primary commodities will be very limited and their best prospect lies in expanding the number of different primary commodities they export. ... In global trade, Africa's "comparative advantage" will continue to rest in primary commodities, especially since "Africa is richer in natural resources -- but poorer in human capital -- than any other region." Since most African economies currently depend on just one or two key exports, thereby leaving them extremely vulnerable to volatile world market fluctuations, increasing the range of primary commodity exports should help spread the risks. But otherwise, the report does not explain how an export strategy based mainly on primary commodities will bring any long-term improvements in Africa's basic earning capacity, nor does it explore the environmental consequences of such an approach. The report does conclude with a strong plea for the industrialized countries to fully open up their own markets to goods from Africa and other developing regions. So far, however, African countries' demands for greater market access in the North have yielded few results. Making the trade picture even more gloomy, the study reports that for some African least developed countries, "implementing World Trade Organization obligations would cost as much as an entire year's development budget." Lessening aid dependence Given the limited prospects for higher African export earnings or foreign investment flows, the study acknowledges that most countries will need significant aid if poverty is to be substantially reduced. Paradoxically, aid transfers have been falling in recent years. This trend will need to be reversed to help spur more rapid economic growth, while at the same time permitting consumption to increase sufficiently in order to lessen poverty. Debt relief, by saving budgetary resources, ultimately has a financial impact similar to that of aid inflows, and also should be stepped up, Can Africa Claim the 21st Century? says. Absolute levels of aid and debt relief are not the only important elements, the report continues. So is better targeting. Donor policies have shifted in recent years to give greater priority to education, health and other aspects of human development, while the Heavily Indebted Poor Countries initiative seeks to ensure that resources saved through debt relief are channelled toward poverty-reduction programmes. But major gaps remain, for instance in funding agriculture. The report is scathing in its criticisms of current donor practices. Much aid remains "tied," that is, it has to be spent on goods and services from the donor countries themselves. Poor coordination among donors sustains "a parallel, multidonor, multiproject economy, obscure to host governments and where donors are sometimes reluctant to share information." This often makes integrated budget management impossible. African officials spend much of their time preparing documentation and reports for the different donor agencies. The tight deadlines involved often mean "consultation and ownership may suffer." Meanwhile, African officials frequently have no access to studies and data produced by the multilateral institutions. World Bank country lending assessments remain confidential, for example. "If partnerships and transparency are to be institutionalized in the aid relationship," the report recommends, "the Bank's assessments will need to become more open to public scrutiny." Despite much donor talk about strengthening the capacity of African governments and institutions to develop and manage their own policies, current aid policies seem to point in a different direction. Some 100,000 foreign "technical experts" are employed in Africa, tending to displace local experts. The study concludes that "aid programmes have probably weakened capacity in Africa," in part by making "recipient governments less accountable to their people." Changes in the approach of donors could do much to mitigate such outcomes. The report recommends in particular that donors put their funds, on an unrestricted basis, into common pools to complement African countries' own resources. This, it says, would help put an end to "intrusive conditionality," a great source of resentment and irritation for many African policymakers. So far, however, there is no evidence that the major donor countries are actually open to such an idea. Conditions, in fact, appear to be proliferating in both aid and debt relief programmes. As African critics of donor policies often point out, such conditionality undermines any notion of genuine partnership between Africa and its external funders. For real partnership to become possible, the UN Economic Commission for Africa noted in a 1999 study of aid policies, it will be essential "to return spending authority, control and accountability to the country in question." ---------------------------------------------------------------- ** Open letter to IMF managing director: 'Africa needs to forge a new dream' Africans are striving for democracy, but their hopes may be dashed by increasing poverty and a "much greater marginalization of Africa in the process of economic globalization," warn Ms. Marie Angelique Savan, and Mr. Hakim Ben Hammouda, representing the Council for the Development of Social Science Research in Africa (CODESRIA), one of the continent's foremost academic bodies. To avoid further misery and democracy's derailment, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and other multilateral financial institutions must be more open to African aspirations, they declare in an open letter to IMF Managing Director Horst K"hler, released during his early July visit to Dakar, Senegal, where CODESRIA is headquartered. Africans have "followed to the letter the prescriptions that the Messiahs of your institution have forcefully recommended," Ms. Savan, and Mr. Hammouda say. "Economies have been liberalized, our states' involvement in economic regulation has been reduced, public enterprises have been privatized, the dynamics of growth have been reoriented toward the international market. Our governments have progressively ceded their economic sovereignty to donors, with your institution and the World Bank in the front ranks." The open letter urged Mr. Kohler during his visit to Senegal to walk through the streets and visit schools, health clinics and villages. "Our failures should lead you to reevaluate the policies and development strategies your institution has recommended to our countries, in the sad vocabulary of structural adjustment." The authors warn that such widespread misery is leading many to question the value of democracy, and to engage in desperate and destructive violence. "Africa needs to forge a new dream and new plans capable of restoring hope to our populations," they conclude. The IMF can help by cancelling the continent's foreign debt, supporting the work of African experts, and permitting African governments "the capacity to master their own destinies." ************************************************************ This material is being reposted for wider distribution by the Africa Policy Information Center (APIC). APIC provides accessible information and analysis in order to promote U.S. and international policies toward Africa that advance economic, political and social justice and the full spectrum of human rights. 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Feel free to share this widely. Regards, Vicki Ferguson ADNA Communications Facilitator To: [log in to unmask] From: iwtc <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Women's GlobalNet #159: Unprecedented UN Resolution on Women, Peace and Date sent: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 14:34:59 -0800 Send reply to: [log in to unmask] IWTC Women's GlobalNet #159 Activities and Initiatives of Women Worldwide By Anne S. Walker November 3, 2000 UNPRECEDENTED UN RESOLUTION ON WOMEN, PEACE AND SECURITY! A resolution on Women, Peace and Security was passed unanimously by the UN Security Council on October 31, 2000 A coalition of five organizations, Women=92s International League for Peace and Freedom (WILPF), International Alert, Amnesty International, Women's Commission for Women Refugees and Girls and the Hague Appeal for Peace, joined with UNIFEM to draft a resolution that would call for gender sensitivity in all UN missions including peace-keeping, for women to equally participate at all negotiating tables and for the protection of women and girls during armed conflict. "Namibia held the presidency of the Security Council in October and welcomed our initiative. This experience reflects the New Democratic Diplomacy =96 whereby governments, the UN and civil society work together for peace and justice. This is an historic victory for women, and therefore for all of human kind. Now we have to hold our governments accountable!" said Cora Weiss, President of the Hague Appeal for Peace The full text of the resolution reads as follows: Security Council Resolution S/2000/1044 31 October 2000 The Security Council, Recalling its resolutions 1261 (1999) of 25 August 1999, 1265 (1999) of 17 September 1999, 1296 (2000) of 19 April 2000 and 1314 (2000) of 11 August 2000, as well as relevant statements of its President and recalling also the statement of its President, to the press on the occasion of the United Nations Day for Women's Rights and International Peace of 8 March 2000 (SC/6816), Recalling also the commitments of the Beijing Declaration and Platform for Action (A/52/231) as well as those contained in the outcome document of the twenty-third Special Session of the United Nations General Assembly entitled "Women 2000: Gender Equality, Development and Peace for the twenty-first century" (A/S- 23/10/Rev.1), in particular those concerning women and armed conflict, Bearing in mind the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations and the primary responsibility of the Security Council under the Charter for the maintenance of international peace and security, Expressing concern that civilians, particularly women and children, account for the vast majority of those adversely affected by armed conflict, including as refugees and internally displaced persons, and increasingly are targeted by combatants and armed elements, and recognizing the consequent impact this has on durable peace and reconciliation, Reaffirming the important role of women in the prevention and resolution of conflicts and in peace-building, and stressing the importance of their equal participation and full involvement in all efforts for the maintenance and promotion of peace and security, and the need to increase their role in decision-making with regard to conflict prevention and resolution, Reaffirming also the need to implement fully international humanitarian and human rights law that protects the rights of women and girls during and after conflicts, Emphasizing the need for all parties to ensure that mine clearance and mine awareness programmes take into account the special needs of women and girls, Recognizing the urgent need to mainstream a gender perspective into peacekeeping operations, and in this regard noting the Windhoek Declaration and the Namibia Plan of Action on Mainstreaming a Gender Perspective in Multidimensional Peace Support Operations (S/2000/693), Recognizing also the importance of the recommendation contained in the statement of its President to the press of 8 March 2000 for specialized training for all peacekeeping personnel on the protection, special needs and human rights of women and children in conflict situations, Recognizing that an understanding of the impact of armed conflict on women and girls, effective institutional arrangements to guarantee their protection and full participation in the peace process can significantly contribute to the maintenance and promotion of international peace and security, Noting the need to consolidate data on the impact of armed conflict on women and girls, 1. Urges Member States to ensure increased representation of women at all decision-making levels in national, regional and international institutions and mechanisms for the prevention, management, and resolution of conflict; 2. Encourages the Secretary-General to implement his strategic plan of action (A/49/587) calling for an increase in the participation of women at decision-making levels in conflict resolution and peace processes; 3. Urges the Secretary-General to appoint more women as special representatives and envoys to pursue good offices on his behalf, and in this regard calls on Member States to provide candidates to the Secretary-General, for inclusion in a regularly updated centralized roster; 4. Further urges the Secretary-General to seek to expand the role and contribution of women in United Nations field-based operations, and especially among military observers, civilian police, human rights and humanitarian personnel; 5. Expresses its willingness to incorporate a gender perspective into peacekeeping operations and urges the Secretary-General to ensure that, where appropriate, field operations include a gender component; 6. Requests the Secretary-General to provide to Member States training guidelines and materials on the protection, rights and the particular needs of women, as well as on the importance of involving women in all peacekeeping and peace-building measures, invites Member States to incorporate these elements as well as HIV/AIDS awareness training into their national training programmes for military and civilian police personnel in preparation for deployment and further requests the Secretary-General to ensure that civilian personnel of peacekeeping operations receive similar training; 7. Urges Member States to increase their voluntary financial, technical and logistical support for gender-sensitive training efforts, including those undertaken by relevant funds and programmes, inter alia, the United Nations Fund for Women and United Nations Children's Fund, and by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and other relevant bodies; 8. Calls on all actors involved, when negotiating and implementing peace agreements, to adopt a gender perspective, including, inter alia: (a) The special needs of women and girls during repatriation and resettlement and for rehabilitation, reintegration and post-conflict reconstruction; (b) Measures that support local women's peace initiatives and indigenous processes for conflict resolution, and that involve women in all of the implementation mechanisms of the peace agreements; (c) Measures that ensure the protection of and respect for human rights of women and girls, particularly as they relate to the constitution, the electoral system, the police and the judiciary; 9. Calls upon all parties to armed conflict to respect fully international law applicable to the rights and protection of women and girls as civilians, in particular the obligations applicable to them under the Geneva Conventions of 1949 and the Additional Protocols thereto of 1977, the Refugee Convention of 1951 and the Protocol thereto of 1967, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women of 1979 and the Optional Protocol thereto of 1999 and the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child of 1989 and the two Optional Protocols thereto of 25 May 2000, and to bear in mind the relevant provisions of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court; 10. Calls on all parties to armed conflict to take special measures to protect women and girls from gender-based violence, particularly rape and other forms of sexual abuse, and all other forms of violence in situations of armed conflict; 11. Emphasizes the responsibility of all States to put an end to impunity and to prosecute those responsible for genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes including those relating to sexual violence against women and girls, and in this regard, stresses the need to exclude these crimes, where feasible from amnesty provisions; 12. Calls upon all parties to armed conflict to respect the civilian and humanitarian character of refugee camps and settlements, and to take into account the particular needs of women and girls, including in their design, and recalls its resolution 1208 (1998) of 19 November 1998; 13. Encourages all those involved in the planning for disarmament, demobilization and reintegration to consider the different needs of female and male ex-combatants and to take into account the needs of their dependants; 14. Reaffirms its readiness, whenever measures are adopted under Article 41 of the Charter of the United Nations, to give consideration to their potential impact on the civilian population, bearing in mind the special needs of women and girls, in order to consider appropriate humanitarian exemptions; 15. Expresses its willingness to ensure that Security Council missions take into account gender considerations and the rights of women, including through consultation with local and international women's groups; 16. Invites the Secretary-General to carry out a study on the impact of armed conflict on women and girls, the role of women in peace- building and the gender dimensions of peace processes and conflict resolution, and further invites him to submit a report to the Security Council on the results of this study and to make this available to all Member States of the United Nations; 17. Requests the Secretary-General, where appropriate, to include in his reporting to the Security Council, progress on gender mainstreaming throughout peacekeeping missions and all other aspects relating to women and girls; 18. Decides to remain actively seized of the matter." International Women's Tribune Centre 777 United Nations Plaza 3rd Floor New York, NY 10017, USA Tel: (1-212) 687-8633 Fax: (1-212) 661-2704 Email: <[log in to unmask]> *** This message from the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom and the International Women's Tribune Center is distributed through the Advocacy Network for Africa (ADNA). Vicki Lynn Ferguson Advocacy Network for Africa Communications Facilitator c/o Africa Policy Information Center 110 Maryland Ave, NE #509 Washington, DC 20002 Ph: 202-546-7961 Fax: 202-546-1545 E-mail: [log in to unmask] Web: http://www.africapolicy.org/adna -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. 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Some of America's traditional critics are having a hard time hiding their glee at the drama unfolding in Florida. Still, most African analysts and officials are worried about the possible consequences of the growing constitutional crisis in the U.S. because of the country's significant influence on the international scene. With each passing day in the election saga, the U.S.'s international rating is rapidly being eroded in many Third World countries, particularly in Africa. Some of them have already offered to send their own poll monitors and experts to solve the mystery of the 43rd U.S. president. "Perhaps it is time for Africa also to send former presidents, like myself, to monitor the process," Kenneth Kaunda, former Zambian head of state, said at a media forum in Lusaka last weekend. Payback for Jimmy Carter Noting that former U.S. President Jimmy Carter was frequently sent to Africa and other continents to monitor elections, Kaunda described the post-election situation in Florida as "chaos" and even suggested that the U.S. administration may need international help. A government-controlled daily in Zimbabwe, The Herald, published a letter Tuesday to the effect that American and other Western poll monitors, whom it described as "self- appointed, self-styled high priests of human rights and democracy," always used to be sent to developing countries. "The hypocrisy and double standards of these so-called democratic institutions is never called into question when it comes to developing countries and yet none has ever told the world of the distortions to democracy arising out of power of the media and the power of money in the industrialized countries," the paper added. In an earlier comment, The Herald claimed that, "The drama and intrigue of election irregularity allegations is not a monopoly of the Third World, as elections in America have proved." Even at first glance, it is clear to see that the most critical comments and reactions in the African press have come from those countries whose elections were pronounced more or less flawed by Western observers. As expected, this was the case with Zimbabwe where parliamentary elections took place in June of this year. President Robert Mugabe's ruling ZANU (PF) party secured a narrow victory over its main opposition rivals, the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC). Most Western observers criticized the country's violent pre- election campaign, which resulted in the death of more than 30 people, mostly MDC supporters, including several white farmers. U.S. Worse Than Third World? "Even by Third World standards, the irregularities and alleged electoral fraud are inexcusable," said the Panafrican News Agency (PANA) in its analysis of the U.S. presidential election. In an article titled "Democracy Dealt A 'Low Blow' On Home Soil," PANA claimed that "democratic behavior is never a genetically conditioned, innate or inherited faculty that can be transplanted." PANA also warned, "It is hoped that wrong, unintended signals have not been given to power-hungry despots to cite the American 'mistake' in engineering electoral confusion for personal interests in the Third World." Ignorance of the Electoral College and How a Republic Works Most African analysts are at a loss to understand how a candidate who supposedly won the popular vote could still loose the U.S. presidency because of Electoral College votes. In most African and Third World countries, a "one man - one vote" system decides the fate of presidential candidates. In an editorial, The Point, a newspaper in Banjul, Gambia, questioned the wisdom of a system in which one can numerically defeat his opponent nationwide and then have to submit to the Electoral College. "We are encouraged and, in fact, sometimes coerced to ensure that our democracy is representative of the will of the people ... and for people to be governed by consent through direct participation," wrote the paper. "We are sure that many Americans harbor these thoughts, more so in the context of the current 'democratic crisis' prevailing in Florida." -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/5/_/192352/_/974510580/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> To the extent possible, please keep postings concise. Our archives are at : http://www.egroups.com/group/us-afr-network . To Post a message, send it to [log in to unmask] . 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To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [log in to unmask] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 03:46:19 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dawda Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Good-bye and Thanks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To-Friends, =20 I had earlier on promised to briefly elaborate On the poems and now the time is up for my Other priorities. Actually, they are a long Series originally, each is meant for either a book Or chapters in terms of my preparation. However, I am also into other things than to gear all my time Into poetry only. As the Ramadan looms, I will be Busier, hence, no time to keep up with the Postings. Nevertheless, many people had Asked me in both opened and closed mails To further the course which definitely, I Felt obligated to do. It is this very motivation That boosted the poems and not my caliber. Hence, I say thanks to all who lent me their Ears or acknowledged any support, be it great=20 Or small. I'd ever remain to love my people And country; this infact, is part of faith Which is my main area of interest. While I retire from the postings, I say A heartfelt thanks to everyone, especially To the management.=C2=A0=20 =20 =20 Delving now into the originality, precisely And concisely, I am acknowledging That they are my own in every aspect, Ranging from style, theme and diction. Sorry, Mr. Haruna Darboe, that I was unable To elaborate much on it; at the time you put the Question just to avoid any delay from other Angles, and on the production and time frame. Once more, thanks for your suggestion should The poems be published, yes! my wishes are Just to prioritize the ongoing school kids. I don=E2=80=99t personally need anything from the Proceeds.My goal is just to educate and I can always come up with alternatives if God so desired. Besides, I will be in touch With Ms.J.Eidson to see her own view, too, Or she could forward her side; in postings. Otherwise, I am not in rush and will Wait and see the next step ahead. =20 Since, I am retiring from the postings In few days time, I=E2=80=99ll be talking about the Poems with some interpretation and Analysis in general, in my next postings. Again and again, thanks to everybody. May God free and protect the Gambia. With Love, Dawda Kabba, Jallow. (To be continued) =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 04:14:13 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dawda Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Attn.Abu Jeng MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear, Mr Jeng, First and formost, accept my late response to your " poetry facelift" article. It was well written and composed. Really, I admire your expressions which immensely justified your arguments. Let's get in touch and we may work together. I was hoping to match up your article, but couldn't beat you.(funny) Thanks Dawda Jallow. [log in to unmask] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:33:50 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebou Khan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT L.S Bojang MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Utterly frivolous!! ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT L.S Bojang Author: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> at Internet Date: 11/17/00 1:10 PM please use your best judjement. i'm sure you and i know pretty well that no one with their right mind would wanna send something this personal to the L. so i'm guessing it was a mistake mini >From: "Touray, Maila" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT L.S Bojang >Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 09:01:16 -0500 > >Do we need to read something this personal on the L, or is this mail >misdirected? > > >Maila > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ebou Khan [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 2:04 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT L.S Bojang > > My Dear Brother, I hear that you are in East Timor and i am sure >that you are > doing good serving the international community and humanity. I >wish >you all > success.Now, may I submit to you that Saffie has taken, >"absconded"with my son > Amadou to London! I do not want to engege in any custody dispute >with her, but > Amadou has to go to a good school and all I want is that she >communictes the > name and address of the school to me so that I could pay the fees >and ensure > that all his insurances are taken caer of by the UN. I believe >that >I am also > entitled to seeing my son at least once a year. He needs me! I am >counting on > you to tell Saffie to release my son to me.I shall send him to her >anywhere in > the world for holidays if she is not too busy. I understand that >you >asserted > that I can have my son anytime I want since he is now over eight >years old. He > needs to be properly educasted, to face the challenges of the >21st >century. So, > I am taking you on your word and hope that you will "instruct"her >to >release my > son, so that he can get the right education in a befitting >estblishment, here in > Arusha or in the UK. I count on your assistance. Please answer my >call. your > brother always Ebou khan-at the Internatioanl Criminal Tribunal >for > Rwanda-Arusha- Tanzania. > > ______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ > Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT L.S Bojang > Author: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > <[log in to unmask]> at Internet > Date: 11/15/00 6:52 AM > > > --- Fatou Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi Papa, > > > > How are you doing? I know you have settled down > > very well . I am a member of Gambia L and I saw > > this message and decided to drop you a few lines. I > > heard that you have got a new wife from neneh Jallow > > and I heard she is beautiful with long hair. I know > > you will have great difficulty now choosing between > > the 2 and Yaboye. How is work in East Timor. I > > hope you are coping well. Our prayers are with you. > > > > My greetings to Cherno Jallow and Yusupha Jobe > > > > Take care > > > > Is yaboye in USA or in the UK? > > > > My email address is [log in to unmask] > > > > Yours > > > > Fatou Jobarteh Jallow > > > > >>> [log in to unmask] 11/02/00 01:13pm >>> > > Brother L.S. Boo,I heard the very socking news of > > Fatu's demise which came as a great sock to > > me.Please > > accept my heart felt condelance and extend same to > > the > > whole family.May Allah shower her with his blessing > > and open the gates of heven for her. > > Have strong faith in Allah and continue to pray > > for her.May her soul rest in perfect peace. > > I will try to get your phone nomber from Mbye > > this weekend and will surely call you.Take courage. > > It's O.J, (East Timor) > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts > > has your answer. > > http://experts.yahoo.com/ > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of > > postings, go to the Gambia-L > > Web interface at: > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > You may also send subscription requests to > > [log in to unmask] > > if you have problems accessing the web interface and > > remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of > > postings, go to the Gambia-L > > Web interface at: > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > You may also send subscription requests to > > [log in to unmask] > > if you have problems accessing the web interface and > > remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] U if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your fullname and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:53:53 CET Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Kebba Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT. THE DEATH OF FODAY-CARR DANJO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello everyone, It is of the deepest sorrow from friends and relatives of mr foday-carr Danjo of niani Dobo who passed away this month in the gambia.Foday was born in niani Dobo village in sami district(CRD).He attended Dobo primary school and then to Armitage high school.He then proceeded to the gambia college and qualified as a teacher. He is survived by a wife an two children.May his soul rest in eternal peace. Kebba Sanneh _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:46:56 +0100 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Fw: [panafricanperspective] Slavery in Sudan, by Joe Madison MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:09 PM Subject: [panafricanperspective] Slavery in Sudan, by Joe Madison > We must not pretend that slavery does not exist. It is alive and well = in=20 > much of Africa, and in some cases it is just as vicious as the = institution of=20 > slavery that existed in this country. I am usually tolerant of = people's=20 > cultures regarding traditions and rituals, but what is happening to = the Dinka=20 > in Sudan leaves no room for tolerance - it is outright cruel. To have = a=20 > united Africa, we must have a united people (at least to a degree). = Africa=20 > is a continent, diverse in her people, and in many cases (such as with = the=20 > Dogon of Mali, the Massai in Kenya, the Denegal of Ethiopa, etc.), = these=20 > ancient traditions will remain in tact; a unified Africa does not mean = the=20 > destruction of Africa. There is no justification for the atrocities=20 > inflicted upon the Dinka by fanatics. Although I have never seen his=20 > program, talk show host, Joe Madison, appeared on Tony Brown's Journal = giving=20 > a report of his findings in Sudan: HREF=3D"http://www.joemadison.com/madisudan.html">Black Eagle in = Sudan. =20 > This is an outrage, and something should be done to disperse this = inhumane=20 > treatment. However, what Mr. Madison suggested is not the answer. A = couple=20 > of days ago I posted to several individuals and The Black List, = concerning=20 > another gentleman who seemed to have the same solution as Mr. Madison, = and I=20 > gave the reason why what they think is a solution will not work: "I = recall=20 > the latter message when the school children raised the money for the = release=20 > of Sudanese slaves, after which many other organizations jumped on the = > bandwagon. Please be advised that this is a total waste of money. In = fact,=20 > it has turned into a lucrative business for the Sudanese slaveholder. = I have=20 > sent this message out at least 25 times, but people are still = believing they=20 > can free the slaves. What has happened, and what has been happening = all=20 > along, is that after the slaveholder is paid, he releases the slaves. = > However, as soon as the beneficiary is out of sight, the slaves are=20 > recaptured. Then this little game starts all over again. Someone = else goes=20 > to Sudan and buys the freedom for some slaves, only to have them = recaptured=20 > and once again enslaved. This game is making the slaveholder quite = rich. =20 > What is needed is an alternative to this predicament, and if anyone = comes up=20 > with a creative solution, they should put it forth. Also, think about = the=20 > logic - why would a slaveholder get rid of his slaves? The money is = not=20 > going to replace the slaves. He has slaves, because he feels he needs = them,=20 > and he is able to acquire them." >=20 > We must not stop working towards a United States of Africa, as this is = a=20 > vision that must be realized; we should be able to deal with diverse=20 > cultures, but we should not have to deal with perverted acts. I feel = we=20 > should let the Government of Sudan (GOS) know that we are aware of = what is=20 > happening to the Dinka and that these acts must cease - someone must = speak=20 > for the children. >=20 > Forward Ever; Backward Never! > Karen >=20 >=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:48:19 EET Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Famara Saidykhan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT. THE DEATH OF FODAY-CARR DANJO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi Kebba, How are you doing there? When are you coming to Helsinki? Take care. Famara >From: Kebba Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT. THE DEATH OF FODAY-CARR DANJO >Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:53:53 CET > >Hello everyone, > It is of the deepest sorrow from friends and relatives of >mr >foday-carr Danjo of niani Dobo who passed away this month in the >gambia.Foday was born in niani Dobo village in sami district(CRD).He >attended Dobo primary school and then to Armitage high school.He then >proceeded to the gambia college and qualified as a teacher. >He is survived by a wife an two children.May his soul rest in eternal >peace. > Kebba Sanneh > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:48:38 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Jeng, Beran" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD:LAWYERS FINALLY VIST DUMO SARHO (Gambianet) The lawyers representing Dumo Sarho, Emmanuel Joof and Ba Tambadou, who last Friday succeeded in meeting him for the first time since he was detained in Mile Two Central Prisons in June were told by the detainee that he was locked in cells at the central prisons for 23 hours daily. Emmanuel Joof expressed dismay over the 'bad' treatment meted out to their client. Meanwhile over 800 people appended their signatures on a petition from the Human Rights Coalition, calling on President Jammeh and the Secretary of State for Justice to urgently release Dumo Sarho and others who have been in detention since June. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:59:10 +0100 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Fw: [panafricanperspective] Slavery in Sudan, by Joe Madison MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, If the link given in the article I just forwarded: "Fw: = [panafricanperspective] Slavery in Sudan, by Joe Madison" does not = work, please try the link below. I think the site is worth visiting. Regards, Kabir. http://www.joemadison.com/madisudan.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:25:35 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ousman Bojang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Ous>>Re: Hon Sedia Jatta Vs. Therese Ndong Jatta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laye, Your point does make a lot of sense. I have not even thought of it from that angle. I hope Mr. Jatta will try to explain his position more on this aspect, and not just to say it is "unconstitutional." My reagards to Ellen and the little ones too. Take care, Ousman Bojang. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:18:13 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A Dose of Cynicism on the Sami Elections Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_756e_2502_2ab5" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_756e_2502_2ab5 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hamjatta, great piece as usual. I want to also take this opportunity to thank you and the rest of the Gambian community in UK for the tremendous work you are doing both on G_L and off-line. The formation of your new organization is a step in the right direction. I hope great things will come out of those efforts. Please extend my gratitude to the rest of the crew that are not active on G_L but are doing great deeds for the Gambian community. Hamjatta, it is also very sad to learn that your contributions to the G_L will henceforth be minimal due to other very pressing engagements. I will miss your insightful postings. I trust though that you will never stay silent when you see that there is something really rotten going on and none of us is tackling the situation adequately. I look forward to seeing you jumping in from time to time with your usual profundity. In the meantime, I wish you luck in your endeavors and I pray that you have success in what you are doing. I was a bit incapacitated the past few days. When I went through my mail this morning, four major things caught my eye: the formation of your Org. in UK, the Sami results, Dumo's condition and the brilliant piece from Prince regarding the AG. As far as the Sami results are concerned, I will join Karamba and others and congratulate the new chief that won the elections. However, like you, I will hasten to add that this 'victory' should not lure the opposition into a false sense of security. Technically, APRC was not defeated, although de facto we all know that the candidate they backed lost the contest. This murkiness should be avoided in coming elections. Local government elections should be fought on partisan grounds and the ridiculous rules the IEC imposed on the Sami candidates should not be tolerated in future elections. The opposition should not sit on their laurels. Enjoy the Sami 'victory' for a day or two and move on to try and force the IEC to oversee free and fair elections in The Gambia. The opposition should settle for nothing less than the removal of Yaya. That should be the bottom-line that has to be drummed on the minds of their supporters. Yaya CANNOT win a free and fair elections in The Gambia. If by hook or crook he masterminds a 'victory', the opposition should mobilize to run him out of the State House. A Yaya election victory should be unacceptable. I was also delighted to learn that Dumo was visited by his family and lawyers. That is great news. I hope the other victims of this cover-up (Lalo, Yarbo et al) were also visited by their families and friends. I am confident that when it is all said and done, these people will be vindicated. A massive bombshell will be dropped on this illegal government when these innocent citizens have their day in court. The whole world will learn about the injustice surrounding the unlawful incarceration of these citizens. The world will also learn about the sinister reason why Yarbo, for instance, was arrested. There is more than meets the eye about this case. It is not just about an inept and paranoid government trying to frame innocent citizens because of rumors of coups. There were absolutely no rumors here implicating all these people as co-conspirators. I will go on record here and say that I am confident that the government will never prove that these people came together to plot to overthrow Yaya. In due course, we will learn exactly what Yaya is afraid of that prompted him to order the arrests of these particular individuals. This will back-fire in the face of Yaya and his AG when the matter is brought to court. Just wait and see and listen to the tapes that are going to be presented in court. Finally, kudos to Prince for slicing the AG. I rest my case about the AG's despicable behavior towards Dumo and his family. The AG was given a second chance in life which most people do not get. By all accounts, he blew it. His worst enemies will feel sorry for him when we get rid of Yaya. Thanks again Hamjatta, Karamba, Prince and Kabir for your contributions. KB >From: Hamjatta Kanteh <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: A Dose of Cynicism on the Sami Elections >Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 18:22:00 GMT > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------=_NextPart_000_756e_2502_2ab5 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed ------=_NextPart_000_756e_2502_2ab5-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:10:52 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ylva Hernlund <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Allegations of voting rights violations need invest igation (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 03:27:40 EST From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Allegations of voting rights violations need invest igation=20 Folks~ It will only take 5 minutes of your precious time to read this and maybe 2= =20 minutes to send emails to the news programs. Please take the time to do so.= =20 It could mean a positive change for our country. It's time this stuff got= =20 brought out into the light so it can be corrected. Thanks~ Tori Subj: [FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: Allegations of voting rights violations need= =20 invest igation =20 Date: 11/17/00 6:19:56 PM Pacific Standard Time =20 From:=A0 =A0 [log in to unmask] (FAIR-L) Sender:=A0 =A0 [log in to unmask] (media analysis, critiques and = news=20 reports) Reply-to:=A0 =A0 [log in to unmask] To:=A0 =A0 [log in to unmask] =20 =20 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 FAIR-L =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 Media analysis, critiques and news reports ACTION ALERT: Allegations of voting rights violations need investigation November 17, 2000 Since November 7, major media outlets have devoted enormous attention to th= e aftermath of the presidential election in Florida. But one critical aspect of this story has received relatively little attention: the allegations of = a pattern of voting irregularities and discrimination against African-Americans and other minority groups that may violate the 15th Amendment and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Upon request from major civil rights groups, including the NAACP and the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Justice Department is deciding whether to pursue a federal investigation into allegations of significant harassment of minority voters in Florida and elsewhere throughout the country. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 makes it illegal to intimidate, threaten, coerce or prevent any individual from exercising his or her right to vote. These are some of the disturbing and highly newsworthy charges that deserve more media attention: --Charles Weaver, publisher of Community Voice, a Fort Myers African American weekly paper, witnessed "intimidation, harassment and apparent illegal activity" at a polling place he visited. ''There were illegal poll watchers, threatening people, telling them, 'I know where you work. You're going to get fired,''' Weaver told the Inter Press Service (11/14/00). The same article reported that Tallahassee police set up traffic checks at the entrance to a polling place in a black neighborhood; that police in Newport News, Va. stopped people at checkpoints; and some black voters were turned away from polls in St. Louis for not having voter registration cards, even though registration cards were not required from white voters. --In an NAACP public hearing held in Miami (C-Span, 11/11/00), Stacy Powers= , a former police officer who currently serves as news director for Tampa radio station WTMP, spoke of witnessing numerous voting irregularities in her election day travels through city neighborhoods. Powers testified that she saw people being turned away from several polling places in the black community after being told their names were not on voting lists. When Power= s reminded poll workers that an individual can legally sign an affidavit and vote even if their name isn't on an official list, she said, she was ejecte= d from several polling places (Daily News, 11/17/00). -- Miami's Donnise DeSouza testified that she was denied the right to vote after being shuttled to several polling places and told her name was not on the list. When she checked with the elections board the next day, she said, she found her name was in fact on the list. Many other voters were told they'd been dropped from the rolls as convicted felons, even though they ha= d never been arrested, and that names of black college students who registere= d this summer never showed up on voter lists, according to the NAACP hearings (Daily News, 11/17/00). --According to the New York Times (11/17/00), more than 26,000 ballots were disqualified in the largely Republican area of Duval County-- four times th= e total in 1996. The Times notes that nearly 9,000 of these ballots were cast in predominately African-American communities around Jacksonville, which registered support for Al Gore over George Bush at a ten-to-one ratio. (The November 17 Daily News places the number of rejected African-American votes in Duval County at more than 12,000, nearly 60 percent of disqualified ballots). --Derek Drake, an editor of the black weekly newspaper Central Florida Advocate, told the London Financial Times (11/16/00) that Haitian Americans and Hispanics, unlike whites, were often asked for two forms of identification. "There was either something of a conspiratorial nature goin= g on or there was mass incompetence," Drake said. In a recent column for the Los Angeles Syndicate (11/12/00), the Reverend Jesse Jackson noted that ballot boxes in black communities went uncounted, voters were turned away after being told there were no ballots left, and Creole speakers were not allowed to assist Haitian immigrants voting for the first time. Such exclusionary voting practices are hardly limited to Florida, or to racial minorities. According to a Federal Election Commission report cited by the Center for an Accessible Society, more than 20,000 U.S. polling places fail to meet the minimal requirements of accessibility, depriving people with disabilities of their fundamental right to vote. (Some of their stories are documented by the Center's magazine, Ragged Edge Online, at http://www.raggededgemagazine.com/1100/1100votestory.htm .) In New York City, Columbia University journalism students reported that citywide voting irregularities included broken ballot booths, the denial of translation assistance and insufficient instructions given to first-time Russian voters hoping to support a write-in candidate, and the transposing of the Chinese characters for "Republican" and "Democrat" on wall posters a= t polling places and on columns in ballot machines (City Limits Weekly, 11/13/00). As Juan Gonzalez of the Daily News noted (11/17/00), "Congress passed the Voting Rights Act specifically to dismantle the Jim Crow laws -- including poll taxes and literacy tests -- that kept blacks from voting in the South for most of the 20th Century." Major media should investigate the allegations of fraud, harassment, intimidation and voter profiling in Florida and throughout the country, to determine whether or not the 2000 election included civil rights violations akin to latter-day Jim Crow voter discrimination. 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I want to thank the members of Gambia-L family. We can always solve problems if we continue to communicate and confine in friends about issues that might be affecting us in deliberating critical topics. No individual should try to rise above everyone, especially when you are faced with health issues that might affect you. As an accountant, I must admit that I am the least knowledgeable in the medical profession. Through your e-mails, I am happy to learn that hypertension can be controlled through proper diet and medication. I encourage every member of this list to share with us concerns that might be easily solved by our knowledgeable members. We are all not in the same profession, and as such, must seek professional opinion. This is indeed a treasure that I shall cherish. Comrade Mohammad LamineJassey-Conteh ---M.Lamine Jassey-Conteh --- [log in to unmask] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:24:26 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Alieu .K. Jammeh" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Fwd: Why We Must Plan For Ramadan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed RAMADAN Nine Reasons Why We Must Plan For Ramadan Have you noticed that each year, Ramadan goes by faster and faster? Personally, I can remember details of Ramadan 11 years ago better in some ways than of Ramadan last year. It's frightening. This blessed month can't be left to become a blur in our memories. It has to be more than that time of the year we squeeze in fasting amongst the other things we do daily. One way to make the most of Ramadan is to plan beforehand. Here are nine reasons why you should plan for Ramadan: Reason #1: To be in "Ramadan mode" By planning for Ramadan before it arrives, you put your mind in "Ramadan mode". If you plan, you will mentally prepare for it, and it will force you to see it as the special month it is outside of your regular routine the rest of the year. Reason #2: To adjust your schedule By planning in advance, you can adjust your work, sleep and meal schedules in such a way as to make time for Sahoor, Iftar, etc. That means, for instance, that if you normally go to bed at midnight, in Ramadan you would sleep earlier in order to get up early for Sahoor. Or if you usually study late, you can instead sleep earlier and start studying after Sahoor in the early morning hours. Planning in advance allows you the luxury to make time for the change in schedule that Ramadan brings. Reason #3: You can plan Ramadan family time Is dinnertime usually an individual affair in your home, as opposed to a time the whole family eats together? Are Friday evenings the time every family member goes off to his/her own social activities? Planning in advance can change this at least in Ramadan. Calling a family meeting about a month in advance, explaining the importance of Ramadan, its implications for the family and the need to eat Iftar together when possible as well as to attend Tarawih prayers, for example, will allow all family members to adjust their work and school schedules accordingly. That will, Insha Allah, make Ramadan a blessing not just to every person in the family, but to the family as a whole. Reason #4: To make the menu While Ramadan may mean extra Ibadah to some of the brothers, it usually means extra cooking for most of the sisters. Ramadan's blessings are for men and women. Making a Ramadan menu for Iftar and meals, and working out when you want to invite relatives, neighbors and friends for Iftar will give sisters the opportunity to catch Tarawih and various other advantageous Ibadat instead of spending Ramadan's 29 or 30 days stuck in the kitchen. (And by the way, brothers, helping out with cooking or cleaning was a practice of the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him-maybe this is a way you can increase your Sawab [rewards] this month). Reason #5 : You can plan a Iftar at your home You may have eaten fantastic Iftars at friends' homes last year. This year, open your doors. There is blessing in feeding a fasting person other than yourself and your family. Planning in advance gives you the luxury of calling friends over the month before and setting a date, so you can "grab" them before others get an opportunity to. Much Sawab, Insha Allah! Reason #6: To make a travel schedule Do you know a fellow Muslim in your neighborhood who wants to get to the mosque for Tarawih every night but doesn't have a car? Or do you look at your work schedule and realize you have to work overtime near the end of Ramadan, so your family will miss out on Tarawih at the mosque the last ten nights of Ramadan? Planning in advance helps you work out your daily or weekly travel schedule to attend Tarawih prayers at the mosque, or even a trip for Iftar at a friend's place who may live farther away. It also helps ease the burden of transportation in winter. Maybe you can start a car pool? Since you have the time before Ramadan begins, you can work this out with neighbors and friends. Reason #7: To do good at high Sawab times Being generous is definitely an Islamic merit, but being generous in Ramadan is even more highly rewarded. Match Ibadat with specific times that carry more reward. Prepare to do Itifkaf, increase asking Allah for forgiveness in the last ten nights of Ramadan. Plan to give increased Sadaqa this month. Plan to visit that relative you may have not seen for months, if not years. Thinking about and arranging to do these things and finding other ways of gaining the pleasure of Allah in Ramadan will Insha Allah help you benefit more from it. Reason #8: You can squeeze in Eid shopping Planning in advance helps you think about all of those things you wanted to do in time for the end of Ramadan or Eid last year but couldn't. Maybe you wanted to go Eid shopping for gifts for family and friends in the last week of Ramadan but were too busy with the last ten nights of Ramadan. No problem. This year, you decide to go in the third week of Ramadan instead. Reason #9: You can plan Dawa activities during Ramadan Give food for other Muslims to break their fast with. Planning in advance for such an activity is needed. You can also plan school Dawa activities in Ramadan by planning in advance, by meeting with the principal or teacher beforehand, preparing a presentation, etc. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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For Freedom Saiks ----- Original Message ----- From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 3:24 AM Subject: Re: Dumo Saho Petition > Kabirr: > > Please, do add my name to the Dumo Saho latest petition. By the way, I was > going through "The Black World Today" Web Page, and came across this > article, by chance. Dumo Saho's name is mentioned in it. Anyway, I am > forwarding it for your perusal. > > Brother Tijan Jobarteh: I hope the Journalist (Charisse Waugh) who wrote the > story below, did not misquote you. Well, I know you are more than > capable/competent to clarify issues if need be. Cheers! > > Ebrima Ceesay > Birmingham, UK. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Crackdowns in The Gambia > > > By Charisse L. Waugh > > > At the conclusion of President Clinton's trip to Africa last month, he > conferred with Hosni Mubarak, President of Egypt, about issues concerning > the Northern African region. It was a familiar photo op: An American > President and his Egyptian counterpart in grave conversation. Nothing about > Clinton's activities in Africa was unfamiliar though, at least not to anyone > who has read a newspaper, watched a nightly newscast or a public television > documentary here in the last few years. > > Sierra Leone, Nigeria, and Burundi, the main subjects of those programs, > were also the focus of Clinton's diplomatic exercise on the world's second > largest continent. There are other African countries, however, which have > escaped the radar of the western press. But they too are experiencing a > reversal of their human rights, social and economic fortunes. > > The Gambia is one such country. So tenuous is the human rights situation > there, that as Clinton and his entourage were traveling to Africa, a senior > producer at The Gambia's state run television station was heading to the > U.S. seeking refuge from possible arrest by the Gambia's National > Intelligence Agency. > > Tijan Jobarteh, a U.S. educated journalist who has served as the senior > producer at Gambia Television Services for the past six years was attending > a communications conference in South Africa when he received word that a > colleague with whom he had founded a community center in the Gambia had been > arrested with seven others and charged with treason. It was the latest in a > number of events which last month prompted Representative John Lewis of > Georgia to prepare a written condemnation of the country's increasingly > brutal and authoritarian government. > > Last April, 13 high school students were shot dead by the police while > participating in a peaceful demonstration against the death of a 13-year-old > boy who died in March while in the custody of fire officers. According to > Gambian press reports, the official autopsy showed that the boy had > apparently been beaten to death. Also prompting the student protests was > the rape in early February of a young girl allegedly by uniformed officers > at a sporting event in front of witnesses. No arrests have been made. > > Crackdowns on the press have become arbitrary and frequent. Last month a > popular radio station was firebombed, and its proprietor injured. No one > has claimed responsibility for that assault, but it came a few days after > President Yah Yah Jammeh, in a speech to youth, threatened the state radio > for its broadcasts. > > "I don't want to be associated with the government anymore," says Jobarteh. > "The security forces have been given carte blanche to do what they want. > The President is creating another ton-ton macoute," claims the 40 year old > journalist in reference to the Gambia's National Intelligence Agency's > resemblance to the notorious security forces who showered death over the > country of Haiti during the Duvalier regime. > > Until now, The Gambia has enjoyed reasonably positive press in the U.S. Its > most controversial coverage being the question of whether Alex Haley's > "Roots" in which Haley claimed Gambian ancestry was authentic or not. > > Last June, an op-ed article appeared in the Journal of Commerce praising the > Gambia's 35-year-old President for "representing hope for a brighter future > and an end to the social ethnic and religious scourges that have kept > problem-ridden African off the global agenda." The editorial was > subsequently entered into the congressional record by three African-American > congressmen who visited The Gambia in 1999. Representative Bennie Thompson > of Mississippi was part of that entourage along with Representative James > Clyburn of South Carolina and Earl Hilliard, a congressman from Alabama. > Thompson says he did not see anything amiss during his trip. "At that time > the situation had not de-stabilized," said Thompson after learning of the > country's current troubles. "We try not to get involved in the political > situation of a country anyway. We try to go in and change the quality of > life of individuals through the use of foreign aid." Thompson explained > that every member of the Congressional Black Caucus has a piece of the > "motherland" that they try to help by lobbying for aid here in the U.S. "We > have done this for Sierra Leone, and other countries whose governments we > don't agree with. Our history is very consistent with this." > > Jobarteh attended college in the U.S. He earned his Bachelor's and Master's > in Media Studies from the New School University in New York. > > After completing his studies in 1994, he returned to his native Gambia. "I > was thinking I could contribute something positive," he says. > > A few months before his arrival, Jammeh, then a 29-year-old army officer, > had seized control of the government in a coup that upheld Gambia's > reputation for peace. He ousted Dada Diawara the only President to serve > since the close of British rule over 30 years ago. > > By 1995, Jobarteh was made a principle producer at the state run television. > He immediately began trying to influence its programming, and changing the > format from mainly soccer games and local soap operas to more substantial > fare. For example, he aired a documentary on the Million Man March held in > Washington, D.C. in 1995. He says: "People loved it. They were calling the > station." > > Buoyed by the enthusiastic response, Jobarteh began scheduling documentary > programming every Monday night during prime time. He showed films and > videos he had acquired from friends in New York City such as a documentary > about Malcolm X by the African-American filmmaker St. Claire Bourne. > Subsequent documentary subjects were Kwame Nkrumah, Frantz Fanon and other > political and historical figures. "I was trying to find material relevant > to the history of Gambia and West Africa. I knew it was successful, because > people expressed their opinions in newspapers and to the station itself." > > In December of 1996 Jobarteh was suspended indefinitely. He believes it was > his programming decisions that left him vulnerable. "They couldn't pin me > on that though, because what I was showing mirrored their rhetoric," he says > referring to the two-year-old government and its youthful President who > often praised the virtues of socialism and pan-African values. "They knew I > was political, but I was professional." > > The official reason given by the government for the suspension, according to > Jobarteh, was because he refused to interrupt scheduled programming to send > a crew to film government officials as they were breaking ground for a new > Insurance Institution. > > The country was about to elect a new President and political campaigning was > heavy. Jobarteh who was in charge of coordinating all of the political > broadcasts, says he didn't think it was fair to the other candidates to make > special arrangements for the government. There were more than 20 different > parties vying for the presidency and other offices just two years after the > coup. > > "Fundamentally, I believed we had a new democracy. My guiding principle was > to give equal time to everybody. I thought the people could decide for > themselves." > > "I had been out of the country for 10 years. How could I come home and take > a stand. All the parties were new anyway." > > Jobarteh was eventually reinstated to his position. > > He was attending a conference in South Africa on children's educational > television programming when he received an email about his colleague's, > Momodou Dumo Sarho, abduction by the National Intelligence Agency. He and > Sarho were the main coordinators of a community center they had founded a > few years ago for poor youths. The center provided educational and > recreational services, and recruited the country's professional class to > volunteer as teachers and mentors. About 60% of the youths who participated > were girls. "Education for girls is very important in the Gambia," says > Jobarteh. "Traditionally this is the group that has been left out." > > Jobarteh is extremely concerned about the well being of Sarho. "No one has > seen him since his arrest. Not his lawyer or his wife. We don't even know > if he is alive," Jobarteh says of the 45-year-old community activist. > > "Here is a man who dedicated his whole life to working for his people and > this is what he gets. This is very scary." > > Instead of returning to the Gambia from the conference in South Africa, > Jobarteh took the advice of his family and friends who told him that he > should "lay low." He traveled to Sweden and then made his way to New Jersey > where he is temporarily living with relatives. > > While he is here Jobarteh plans on pursuing his Ph.D., but he intends to > return home soon. "I'm not fearful of my own life," he says. "I'm fearful > about what is happening to my country, and what it is becoming." > > © 2000 The Black World Today. All Rights Reserved. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:54:40 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD:Africa appeals for new global compact with developed world Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed by Guebray Berhane ADDIS ABABA, Nov 21 (AFP) - Significant development aid, debt relief and more open markets should be the ingredients of a "new global compact" with Africa, a ministerial conference on the continent's development was told Tuesday. What is needed is "a new global compact with Africa, not for Africa," said K.Y. Amoako, the Ghanaian executive director of the Economic Commission for Africa, a UN agency. The secretary general of the Organisation of African Unity (OAU), Tanzanian Salim Ahmed Salim, called for "globalisation with a human face." "Take the bull by the horns" so that the idea of Africa needing "trade not aid ... does not become an empty phrase," said Ethiopian Prime Minister Meles Zenawi. The conference, which opened here Tuesday, brought together about 30 African trade and finance ministers, eight central bank governors, development ministers from Germany, Britain, Norway and the Netherlands and dozens of officials from the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and donor states. "If the rich countries are willing to invest the necessary resources, through aid, debt relief and market access, to give African economies the jump-start they need, much of Africa should be able to put in place the necessary political and economic reforms to ensure that their economies take off," urged Amoako. The Ghanaian also called for "a substantial, but carefully agreed and phased injection of official development assistance (ODA), which would be linked to performance indicators agreed by both sides." Noting the "negative impact to our continent" of the declining level of ODA, Salim said this was "happening at a time when most of our countries are grappling with severe external payments problems and when private capital inflows, particularly foreign direct investment (FDI), have remained below expectations." In 1998, Africa received just one percent of the world's total FDI, according to the ECA. Amoako called for "some preferential access, at least in the short run" for African states. "Africa must be enabled to export much more and to absorb much higher levels of FDI," said Meles. According to UN and World Bank estimates, Africa accounts for one percent of the world's total GDP and less than two percent of total exports. Three out of four Africans, some 640 million people, live on less than two dollars a day. Meles called on the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) to "accord non-reciprocal and privileged access to their markets for African products." In exchange for partners' future investments, African countries should undertake to set up policies favouring exports, attracting private investment and stimulating diversification and liberalisation. Africa should also carry out profound political reforms tied to transparency, responsibility and good governance and stop conflicts that destroy the continent's development, Amoako added. Salim said: "What we are calling for is not an act of charity towards the least developed countries but rather a genuine international cooperation and solidarity in support of the efforts that these countries have deployed." Last month, the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) also called for a "new deal" for the world's 48 poorest coutries, 33 of which are in Africa. gue/afm/gd _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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"This meeting did not bring with it impunity. There are a number of cases being studied that concern General Guei. It is up to the judiciary to do its job," Defence Minister Moise Lida Kouassi told journalists late Monday. Around 50 people were killed October 24 and 25 when Guei's presidential guard opened fire on those demonstrating against his attempt to grab victory in the October 22 presidential election when it became clear Gbagbo was winning. Guei went into hiding and did not reappear until October 13 in the capital Yamoussoukro, when he acknowledged Gbagbo's election victory in a cordial public encounter. "This was a controversial meeting. Its aim was not to pardon General Guei for all that had happened, but to resolve some internal security problems," the defence minister said. Justice Minister Siene Oulai said at the same press conference: "It will be a matter for the judicial authorities to decide who can and cannot be tried." He claimed that a constitutional clause granting immunity from prosecution for former members of the junta applied only to the December 1999 coup that brought Guei to power. The issue of Guei's whereabouts and continued influence on the military was brought up at the press conference. "We know exactly where General Guei is and we know the nature of the escort which he is allowed," the defence minister said, adding that "adequate measures" would be taken if the former junta leader tried to reinforce this guard. He said that some 500 former soldiers recruited in July to reinforce the presidential guard -- dubbed the "Red Brigade" -- were now assembled and disarmed at a military base in Abidjan. Lida Kouassi said the head of this guard, Lieutenant Laurent Boka Yapi, widely rumoured to be dead, is alive. "We have located him, permit me not to say any more," he said. "In any case, he will be brought to justice and will answer for his actions," Lida Kouassi said, charging that Boka Yapi had been linked to "several murders and executions". The minister told journalists that the members of the Red Brigade were not recorded anywhere at the defence ministry and were attached directly to the presidency. "They reported only to Boka Yapi and constituted a fully fledged militia," the minister said. He said that after undergoing tests, some these men could be integrated into the army and that they would have to find a solution for the others. As well as the deaths caused by the Red Brigade, violence between Gbagbo supporters aided by security forces and supporters of opposition leader Alassane Ouattara left 171 people dead according to official figures. The justice and defence ministers reaffirmed the government's intention to see the judiciary fully investigate the violence. so/crl/gd _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:27:59 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD: Libyans apprehended for attacking foreigners will be put on trial Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed TRIPOLI, Nov 20 (AFP) - Libyans and others arrested for a recent batch of violent attacks upon foreigners will soon stand trial, Libyan Justice Minister Abdel Rahman al-Abbar vowed Monday. Seventy-five people, the majority of whom are Libyan, will be brought to trial for the deaths of six foreigners during riots last September that caused 33,000 black Africans to flee Libya, Abbar told a press conference. "There will be public trials in the coming days to punish those implicated in these events. It is a matter of our honor and our national security," said Abbar. He added that the six dead consisted of a Libyan, two Nigerians, a Sudanese, and two Chadians. The fighting, which occurred in the town of Zawiyah, 40 kilometers (25 miles) west of Tripoli, had begun when a Libyan tried to stop two Sudanese from raping his sister. The minister emphasized that Libya still welcomed its ties with black Africa. "More than two million black Africans of different nationalities live side by side with the Libyan people without any incidents," he said. He blasted the Western media for exploiting the episode and alleged that there had "been an invisible hand responsible for the violence." Thousands of Africans have left Libya since the rioting. Upon returning to their home countries, some have said that dozens of people died in the violence. Abbar expressed regret for such allegations and warned Libya's former guests that it "is not right to treat the country that welcomes you in such a way." fac/np/mb _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 09:00:00 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Jeng, Beran" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD:Morro Jawla's Victory Morro Jawla's Victory The Independent (Banjul) November 20, 2000 P.K Jarjue Banjul In the wake of Kebba Fanta Comma's defeat in the chieftaincy elections in Sami, violence between his supporters and those of Morro Jawla the winning candidate had erupted, leading to some arrests Friday, a day after the results were announced. The violence had involved members of the APRC youth wing and supporters of Morro Jawla. Meanwhile The Independent has also received unconfirmed reports suggesting that APRC youth wing members from the Kombos visited villages in Sami after the results became clear, urging their inhabitants not to recognise Morro Jawla as the district's chief. Mr. Jawla was being seen by Sami's APRC youth wing as a United Democratic Party (UDP) militant. Our correspondent in Sami said the ruling party's supporters in the area 'were creating problems for Jawla's supporters'. In Janjanbureh police arrested a member of the APRC youth wing who was accused of inciting violence and making indecent remarks against Mr. Jawla and his supporters. The man, identified as one Lamin Ceesay, was reportedly released after a short spell in the Janjanbureh police station. There were also reports of more violence in other places within Sami. Around Pachonki, clashes broke out between APRC youth wing members who were supporting Mr. Comma and Mr. Jawla's supporters over the use of public taps in the area. It was reported that the defeated former acting chief's supporters tried to prevent Jawla sympathisers from using the taps. In Lamin Koto one Momodou Jallow told The Independent that after the Sami election results were announced Thursday night, Mr. Jawla was 'provoked' and 'insulted' by undisclosed members of the APRC youth wing. Meanwhile the police who were said to be combing the area for 'law breakers' have issued a warning that they 'would not show any mercy for individuals trying to disrupt the peace and tranquility of the district'. They have dispatched personnel from the Police Intervention Unit to restore law and order in areas affected by the violence. Morro Jawla the chief-elect has appealed for calm, extending the 'hand of peace' to supporters of his opponents. Speaking shortly after the results of the Sami chieftaincy elections became clear, Mr. Jawla called on the people of the district to 'bury' their political differences and 'join hands' as he tries to implement the development plans he has for the area. Mr. Jawla, a 49-year-old customs officer captured 2, 338 votes, beating the incumbent Kebba Fanta Comma to second place with 1785 votes. Mr. Jawla thanked the people of Sami for bestowing their confidence in him and said his assumption of the office of district chief would be of immense benefit to the people if they cooperate with him in his quest to improve the conditions of the area. He said their political differences should not stand in the way of providing a united front to develop Sami. Mr. Jawla who appeared heartened by his victory also expressed gratitude to the Independent Electoral Commission for the 'professional manner' in which the election was conducted. On his part, Mustapha Carayol, the returning officer for the elections thanked the seven candidates and their supporters for the peaceful manner in which they exercised their voting rights. Mr. Carayol said that the success of the Sami election was a clear manifestation of the ability of Gambians to conduct elections in a free, democratic and peaceful manner. The returning officer said it was a successful experiment, which could be applied in the forthcoming local government elections. He also advised the chief-elect to bear in mind the daunting challenges inherent in assuming the mantle of leadership in the district. Election day Speaking about his impressions about the elections, the Deputy British High Commissioner Bharat Joshi said he was pleased with the way the election was conducted by the IEC, inspite of doubts expressed concerning its successful completion. Mr. Joshi said he visited most of the polling stations and did not see any violence or intimidation. He expressed the hope that both the forthcoming local government elections and the presidential elections would be held in a similar atmosphere. However, in the run-up to the elections the non-partisan nature of the campaign was questioned by people of Sami especially non- supporters of the former acting chief Kebba Fanta Comma. A few days to the votes Morro Jawla's supporters and those of Lamin Ceesay and Abdoulie Mbacke had alleged to The Independent that former 'militants' of the defunct July 22nd Movement were campaigning for Kebba Fanta Comma despite calls for a non-partisan electioneering. They alleged that APRC supporters visited villages asking their inhabitants to vote for Kebba Fanta Comma whom they described as 'President Jammeh's candidate'. 'If this was the way things should be then the election should have been on a political platform,' one Jawla supporter remarked. Another man who claimed to be a native of Pachonki alleged that they were 'threatened by elements of the defunct July 22nd Movement from the Kombos to vote for the incumbent or else we would suffer'. However, our reporter in Sami saw former members of the defunct movement in Kebba Fanta Comma's vehicle, which was laden with gallons of fuel as his campaign convoy crossed from Janjanbureh towards Lamin Koto. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 14:16:15 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD: Guinea-Bissau defence minister blasts ex-junta chief's army takeover Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed BISSAU, Nov 21 (AFP) - Guinea Bissau's defence minister has denounced former junta chief General Ansumane Mane's decision to proclaim himself army head without the consent of civilian President Kumba Yala. Mane's announcement Monday raised fears of more military unrest in this tiny west African country only 11 months into civilian rule. Defense Minister Fernando Correia Landim said in a statement that the takeover was "anti-democratic" and said the authorities would seek to assure that laws are respected. He said however that the government was "open to dialogue" with the general, whose junta in 1998 launched a bloody 11-month rebellion which ended with the ouster of then-president Joao Bernardo Vieira. Mane however went on national radio later in the day -- as "supreme commander of the military junta" -- to appeal for calm, saying the issue was "purely military". The situation is "under control," he said. Announcing his takeover as army head before army officials, Mane had claimed he had been the object of an attempt to "physically eliminate" him. Early Tuesday the streets of Bissau were calm and there were no reports of unrest. Ministers were to meet later in the day to discuss Mane's move, national radio reported. Mane's junta swept into action in June 1998 when Vieira sacked the general, then army chief of staff. In May 1999, Vieira was ousted and Mane and Yala jointly headed a transition government. Yala -- a candidate of the opposition which did not have the support of the army -- was elected head the civilian government in January. With Yala in power, the junta no longer had an official existence. In August a law was brought in stipulating that the head of the state was also the head of the armed forces, but Yala has never succeeded in imposing himself on the army, which in turn has repeatedly demanded more power in the running of the country. Mane said he decided to take over the army because he was not pleased with military appointments made last week by Yala. He said the president had changed a list the army had given him of officers due for promotion. Many here believe Mane's relations with the president are becoming increasingly strained, pointing for example to his absence from military ceremonies last Thursday. During the ceremonies, Yala called for a restructuring of the army, saying the country had to be able to afford its cost. The international community has on several occasions called for the army to remain separate from political life in the country. One opposition party, the Union for Change (UM), has welcomed Mane's move, saying it was a decision "likely to stabilise the army situation." str-at/kc/gd _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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The report notes that the HIPC (Heavily Indebted Poor Countries) initiative has proved inadequate even for the countries included, and that there are many debt-burdened countries not included in the initiative. The report also calls for "an immediate suspension" of debt-service payments of all HIPC's and of other countries to be identified by the panel. The full report is available, in pdf format, at http://www.un.org/documents/ga/docs/55/a55422.pdf +++++++++++++++++end profile++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ UN A/55/422 General Assembly 26 September 2000 Macroeconomic policy questions: external debt crisis and development Recent developments in the debt situation of developing countries Report of the Secretary-General I. Introduction 2. An analysis of key debt indicators shows that external debt and debt-servicing problems are most severe and persistent in the heavily indebted poor countries (HIPCs), the target group of the HIPC Initiative. However, a number of other developing countries and countries in transition are also in a vulnerable position. ... 3. Various strategies have been adopted to tackle the debt problems of these countries. In this respect, the attention of the international community has over the recent past largely focused on the HIPC Initiative; but progress has been much slower than expected and the initiative is suffering from problems of underfunding, excessive conditionality, restrictions over eligibility, inadequate debt relief and cumbersome procedures. Steps have been taken to speed up the HIPC process and there is now a commitment to doubling the number of countries for which debt reduction is agreed from 10 in September 2000 to 20 by December 2000. While such an acceleration is welcome, the current approach is not likely to succeed in removing the debt overhang of the world's poorest countries. For this purpose ... one approach, while the existing processes are under way, would be to establish an independent panel of experts that would assess or reassess debt sustainability, eligibility for debt reduction, the amount of debt reduction needed, conditionality and financing (including the provision of necessary funds for the multilateral financial institutions affected) for all HIPC countries including those that have already benefited and those that are set to benefit from debt reduction in the coming months under the existing initiative. The latter two groups should benefit from additional debt relief if the panel determines that the debt reduction provided under the HIPC Initiative is inadequate. The design of the modalities for such an approach could be expected to draw on experience of domestic insolvency procedures in major industrialized countries as well as that of insolvency procedures in private international law. The approach should not be limited to HIPCs but should incorporate a broader spectrum of countries in need of special measures to overcome their official debt problems. Simultaneously there should be agreement on the suspension of debt-service payments by all HIPCs, with no additional consequent interest obligations being incurred, until the panel had made its recommendations and agreement had been reached on the reduction of their debts. This suspension could also be extended to non-HIPC countries declared eligible for relief by the panel during the period required for eventual agreement on debt reduction in their case. ... A. The Heavily Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC) Initiative 9. The HIPCs in general are characterized by extreme poverty, poor social development indicators and human resources, poorly diversified economies, a high concentration of export earnings in a few primary commodities, and dependence on official aid as well as high debt overhang. The last-mentioned is reflected in high levels of debt in relation to national income, high ratios of debt service to exports, large payments arrears, and high ratios of debt service to government revenue. By the end of 1999, little assistance had been delivered under the HIPC Initiative, with only a negligible impact on the aggregate debt stocks and indicators of the HIPCs. ... There are currently 41 countries on the list of HIPCs. Thirty-three of them are in sub-Saharan Africa, and 30 are classified as least developed countries. 10. Following the Cologne Summit in June 1999, a number of specific modifications to the HIPC Initiative aiming to provide 'deeper, broader and faster' debt relief were endorsed at the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and World Bank Annual Meetings in September 1999. Deeper and broader relief is expected to be achieved through a lowering of debt sustainability targets, resulting in an increase in the number of countries to become eligible for HIPC assistance. The new scheme retains the basic framework of a two-stage process requiring an established track record of policy implementation before the delivery of relief. ... 11. A main innovation under the enhanced HIPC framework is the explicit link to poverty reduction. HIPCs are now required to present Poverty Reduction Strategy Papers (PRSPs) as part of the debt-relief process. A country aspiring to assistance under the initiative would normally be expected to have in place a comprehensive and participatory poverty reduction strategy before the decision point. In practice, interim strategies have served as a basis for the decision points for most countries now being processed under the new framework. Finalization of the PRSPs and satisfactory initial progress in implementation are expected from countries before delivery of relief at the completion point; early experience indicates that reaching this point may take one or two years. This link to poverty alleviation and the need to reach agreement on PRSPs through processes involving participation of the civil society render the HIPC process even more complex than before. 12. Up to the end of July 2000, nine countries had reached their decision points under the enhanced scheme. Bolivia, Mauritania and Uganda were declared eligible for additional relief in February 2000, Mozambique and the United Republic of Tanzania followed in April 2000, Senegal in June 2000 and Benin, Burkina Faso and Honduras in July 2000. In all, these nine countries are estimated to receive more than $15 billion in nominal terms in additional debt relief, representing an average reduction in the present value (PV) of debt stocks of close to 45 per cent on top of traditional relief mechanisms. The objective is to have 20 HIPCs reach their respective decision points under the new framework by the end of 2000. 13. Uganda became the first HIPC country to achieve the completion point under the enhanced HIPC Initiative in early May 2000. Bolivia was expected to reach this point during the second half of 2000, to be followed by Benin, Burkina Faso, Mozambique, Senegal and the United Republic of Tanzania in 2001, and Honduras and Mauritania in 2002. In these first cases under the enhanced framework (six reassessments taking into account the revised debt sustainability targets and three new cases), the countries have to a large extent been able to draw on pre-existing national poverty action plans and strategies for the preparation of the PRSPs that are to be presented to the Bretton Woods institutions. ... 15. An important development in late 1999 and early 2000 has been the commitment by an increasing number of creditor countries to granting even deeper debt relief than under the Cologne terms. In this regard, a breakthrough made towards full cancellation of (bilateral) claims was the pledge by the President of the United States of America in September 1999, in connection with the IMF and World Bank Annual Meetings, to forgive 100 per cent of debts within the context of the HIPC Initiative. Other creditor countries, notably all Group of Seven (G-7) countries, have followed with similar declarations. In April 2000, G-7 finance ministers and central bank governors meeting in Washington, D. C., collectively committed themselves to increasing debt reduction to 100 per cent of non-official development assistance (ODA) claims treated within the Paris Club framework, a commitment reaffirmed by G-7 leaders at the Okinawa Summit of July 2000. 16. However, the above should not be interpreted to mean that HIPCs can henceforth expect rapid or across-the-board cancellation of their bilateral debts: cancellation would in principle be limited to countries going through the initiative, and would be dependent on their progress in economic policy reform and poverty reduction. Country coverage, the timing of relief and the coverage of debts, for example, post-cutoff date debt, may also vary from creditor to creditor. Relief also depends on legislative authorization for the release of funds. ... 18. The G-8 meeting in Okinawa, however, did not advance any major new initiative on debt similar to the Cologne debt initiative a year earlier. ... 19. As of July 2000, only a small number of countries were well advanced in the HIPC process, while others have as yet to meet the requirements for entering the process; that is to say, they have not embarked on IMF and World Bank-supported programmes and have not entered into Paris Club negotiations for concessional rescheduling. ... 20. Overall progress is affected by the laborious resource mobilization for the initiative, which is funded essentially through voluntary contributions. Agreement on the use of IMF gold holdings to help finance the Fund's participation was reached at the Annual Meetings of the Bretton Woods institutions in September 1999. Subsequently, a series of off-market transactions were conducted and completed by early April 2000, raising about $3 billion which has been invested to generate income for the initiative. Pledges of substantial new bilateral contributions to IMF and World Bank HIPC trust funds have also been made. Yet full financing of the initiative is not yet assured. ... 23. More generally, if resource shortfalls persist, if seeking assurance on the participation of all creditors before the finalization of debt-relief packages continues to be a lengthy and difficult process, and if country cases in consequence cannot be brought forward to the decision point, then the initiative risks slowing down to a halt. .. 27. It cannot yet be judged precisely from the early cases whether HIPC assistance will actually succeed in lowering debt burdens to agreed targets or in maintaining debt at sustainable levels. Achievement of debt sustainability is a function not only of the amount of debt relief delivered, but also of the growth of export earnings and government revenue. A standard assumption in Enhanced Structural Adjustment Facility (ESAF)/ PRGF projections, reflected in the debt sustainability analysis (DSA) papers prepared for the HIPC Initiative, is of steady robust export growth. However, the experience of the first set of HIPC countries shows that this is not always realistic. For instance, export growth in the order of 6 to 7 per cent was originally projected for Uganda for 1999/00, but recent figures indicate that exports actually fell, by around one fifth, during this period. ... 28. While the enhanced HIPC/ PRSP initiative recognizes the importance of 'ownership' by debtor Governments for its success, its design is not consistent with this objective. The poverty reduction objective has been added by creditors and donors without appropriate consultations with the debtors concerned. They also largely set the PRSP policy agenda and prescribe the modalities to be followed, leaving little autonomy to debtor countries. Creditors set the terms and conditions for debt relief, which tend to depend as much on their willingness to provide resources as on the needs of the debtor countries. The ultimate judgement on whether and when poor countries qualify for such relief is in the hands of the Bretton Woods institutions. The enhanced HIPC scheme adds a further layer of conditionality, which risks overwhelming the capacities of the debtor country administrations concerned and may effectively dilute "ownership" and autonomous policy-making. ... 29. Overall, HIPC is a cumbersome and costly process requiring extensive preparations from the debtors concerned. ... B. Non-HIPC debtors 30. There are 18 least developed countries that are not included in the HIPC category, and some of them are considered severely or moderately indebted according to the World Bank classification. ... 31. Most of the debt-distressed African countries are either among the group of HIPCs or among the group of least developed countries. However, there are notable exceptions such as Algeria and Morocco in North Africa (which are classified as moderately indebted middle-income countries); Gabon and Nigeria (both severely indebted); and Zimbabwe (a moderately indebted low-income country). A discussion of African debt problems thus cannot be confined to the HIPC Initiative or special measures adopted in favour of least developed countries alone. ... III. International policy conclusions 69. The analysis above shows that there are serious shortcomings in the international approach to the debt problems of developing countries and economies in transition. Overcoming these difficulties would call for action on three fronts: the HIPC Initiative, the official debt of non-HIPC countries, and commercial debt. 70. The HIPC Initiative has received considerable support in the international community as a comprehensive and coordinated approach based on a recognition of the need to reach a sustainable debt position for the countries concerned in the context of growth and development. However, so far it has progressed only in incremental steps, and even with the acceleration up to the end of 2000 in the number of countries benefiting from agreed debt reduction, the initiative is unlikely to reach the objectives set. The problems associated with its design and implementation suggest that even the enhanced HIPC Initiative does not provide an adequate response to HIPCs' debt problems. A bolder approach will have to be taken to remove the debt overhang of the world's poorest nations. 71. This new approach might take the form of an objective and comprehensive assessment by an independent panel of experts not unduly influenced by creditor interests, while the existing processes are under way. ... 72. There should also be an immediate suspension of the debt- service payments of all HIPCs, with no consequent additional interest obligations being incurred until the panel has made its recommendations and agreement has been reached on reduction of their debts. This suspension should also be extended to nonHIPC countries declared eligible for debt relief by the panel during the period until agreements on the debt reduction in their case are reached. 73. It is notable that a recent independent commission of experts from different schools of thought appointed by the United States Congress, the Meltzer Commission, has made proposals that go well beyond the scope of the HIPC Initiative. The Commission agreed unanimously on the desirability of writing off all multilateral claims against HIPCs that had implemented an effective development strategy. It also recommended that bilateral creditors should similarly write off these countries debts, and that grants rather than loan-based funding should be used in the majority of programmes. These specific recommendations should not be ignored in the controversy over the Meltzer Commission's other proposals. 74. The point is not, of course, to see full and swift debt relief as a panacea for the deep-seated policy challenges facing these countries. It would, however, be one less problem for their policy makers to deal with. Many of these countries are unable to meet their external debt-servicing obligations, and for them debt relief will simply formally acknowledge a situation that already exists and stop the accumulation of arrears that are unlikely ever to be paid. 75. Reform of the international strategy regarding the official debt of poor countries should also address the problems of debt- distressed low-income countries that are not currently eligible for the special treatment accorded to the HIPCs. ... ************************************************************ This material is being reposted for wider distribution by the Africa Policy Information Center (APIC). APIC provides accessible information and analysis in order to promote U.S. and international policies toward Africa that advance economic, political and social justice and the full spectrum of human rights. Documents previously distributed, as well as a wide range of additional information, are also available on the Web at: http://www.africapolicy.org To be added to or dropped from the distribution list write to [log in to unmask] For more information about reposted material, please contact directly the source mentioned in the posting. 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For Freedom Saiks ----- Original Message ----- From: Ylva Hernlund <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:10 PM Subject: Allegations of voting rights violations need invest igation (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 03:27:40 EST From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Allegations of voting rights violations need invest igation Folks~ It will only take 5 minutes of your precious time to read this and maybe 2 minutes to send emails to the news programs. Please take the time to do so. It could mean a positive change for our country. It's time this stuff got brought out into the light so it can be corrected. Thanks~ Tori Subj: [FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: Allegations of voting rights violations need invest igation Date: 11/17/00 6:19:56 PM Pacific Standard Time From: [log in to unmask] (FAIR-L) Sender: [log in to unmask] (media analysis, critiques and news reports) Reply-to: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] FAIR-L Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting Media analysis, critiques and news reports ACTION ALERT: Allegations of voting rights violations need investigation November 17, 2000 Since November 7, major media outlets have devoted enormous attention to the aftermath of the presidential election in Florida. But one critical aspect of this story has received relatively little attention: the allegations of a pattern of voting irregularities and discrimination against African-Americans and other minority groups that may violate the 15th Amendment and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Upon request from major civil rights groups, including the NAACP and the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Justice Department is deciding whether to pursue a federal investigation into allegations of significant harassment of minority voters in Florida and elsewhere throughout the country. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 makes it illegal to intimidate, threaten, coerce or prevent any individual from exercising his or her right to vote. These are some of the disturbing and highly newsworthy charges that deserve more media attention: --Charles Weaver, publisher of Community Voice, a Fort Myers African American weekly paper, witnessed "intimidation, harassment and apparent illegal activity" at a polling place he visited. ''There were illegal poll watchers, threatening people, telling them, 'I know where you work. You're going to get fired,''' Weaver told the Inter Press Service (11/14/00). The same article reported that Tallahassee police set up traffic checks at the entrance to a polling place in a black neighborhood; that police in Newport News, Va. stopped people at checkpoints; and some black voters were turned away from polls in St. Louis for not having voter registration cards, even though registration cards were not required from white voters. --In an NAACP public hearing held in Miami (C-Span, 11/11/00), Stacy Powers, a former police officer who currently serves as news director for Tampa radio station WTMP, spoke of witnessing numerous voting irregularities in her election day travels through city neighborhoods. Powers testified that she saw people being turned away from several polling places in the black community after being told their names were not on voting lists. When Powers reminded poll workers that an individual can legally sign an affidavit and vote even if their name isn't on an official list, she said, she was ejected from several polling places (Daily News, 11/17/00). -- Miami's Donnise DeSouza testified that she was denied the right to vote after being shuttled to several polling places and told her name was not on the list. When she checked with the elections board the next day, she said, she found her name was in fact on the list. Many other voters were told they'd been dropped from the rolls as convicted felons, even though they had never been arrested, and that names of black college students who registered this summer never showed up on voter lists, according to the NAACP hearings (Daily News, 11/17/00). --According to the New York Times (11/17/00), more than 26,000 ballots were disqualified in the largely Republican area of Duval County-- four times the total in 1996. The Times notes that nearly 9,000 of these ballots were cast in predominately African-American communities around Jacksonville, which registered support for Al Gore over George Bush at a ten-to-one ratio. (The November 17 Daily News places the number of rejected African-American votes in Duval County at more than 12,000, nearly 60 percent of disqualified ballots). --Derek Drake, an editor of the black weekly newspaper Central Florida Advocate, told the London Financial Times (11/16/00) that Haitian Americans and Hispanics, unlike whites, were often asked for two forms of identification. "There was either something of a conspiratorial nature going on or there was mass incompetence," Drake said. In a recent column for the Los Angeles Syndicate (11/12/00), the Reverend Jesse Jackson noted that ballot boxes in black communities went uncounted, voters were turned away after being told there were no ballots left, and Creole speakers were not allowed to assist Haitian immigrants voting for the first time. Such exclusionary voting practices are hardly limited to Florida, or to racial minorities. According to a Federal Election Commission report cited by the Center for an Accessible Society, more than 20,000 U.S. polling places fail to meet the minimal requirements of accessibility, depriving people with disabilities of their fundamental right to vote. (Some of their stories are documented by the Center's magazine, Ragged Edge Online, at http://www.raggededgemagazine.com/1100/1100votestory.htm .) In New York City, Columbia University journalism students reported that citywide voting irregularities included broken ballot booths, the denial of translation assistance and insufficient instructions given to first-time Russian voters hoping to support a write-in candidate, and the transposing of the Chinese characters for "Republican" and "Democrat" on wall posters at polling places and on columns in ballot machines (City Limits Weekly, 11/13/00). As Juan Gonzalez of the Daily News noted (11/17/00), "Congress passed the Voting Rights Act specifically to dismantle the Jim Crow laws -- including poll taxes and literacy tests -- that kept blacks from voting in the South for most of the 20th Century." Major media should investigate the allegations of fraud, harassment, intimidation and voter profiling in Florida and throughout the country, to determine whether or not the 2000 election included civil rights violations akin to latter-day Jim Crow voter discrimination. 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No > butterfly ballots. A country where no election returns can be broadcast > while the polls are open. Where all the ballots are counted by hand ever= y > time. A colleague from Canada told me this morning that that is the way > things work north of here. Canada is holding their next election next > Monday. I'm sure they will have their final results long before we do. > =20 > There are a lot of people all over the world having a great deal of fun at > our expense over this election. Russian Prime Minister Putin is said to > have offered to send a team of observers. The U.S. has sent election > observers all over the world in an effort to monitor the elections in > other countries. This is not always met with open arms. Now those > countries can point to our own situation with some satisfaction. Headlin= e > writers and cartoonists all over the world are having a great time with > all of this. > =20 > Meanwhile, we sit here waiting for some sign that a decision from the > Florida Supreme Court is imminent. There was a bit of a flurry this > morning when we got word that the spokesman for the court was coming out= . > There is a fairly elaborate system set up to give us enough warning time > before a decision is announced so that everyone can go on the air. It > turned out he was coming out to say that all the rumors that a decision > had been reached already were not true. So we wait some more. > =20 > If there is not a decision today, our plan is to gather a number of > correspondents from other countries and ask them how they are reporting on > all of this. How do they explain to their home countries what is going on? > Do they understand what is going on? We'll also have a piece from Dave > Marash outlining the problems with elections all over the country, not > just in Florida. One thing is clear from this election. Hundreds, if not > thousands of ballots in elections all over the country are routinely > discarded, disqualified, ignored, never counted=85all for a variety of > reasons. But we clearly have problems with our elections. It's just that > when the outcome isn't that close, no one really pays much attention. If > the margin of victory in a given county is greater than the number of > absentee ballots, those ballots are, in many cases, never counted. And b= y > now, we're all aware of the problems with the voting machines themselves= . > =20 > And we're going to try one other thing. At some point, this election wil= l > be over. There will be a winner and a loser. Each of them will have to > come out to make what may be the most important speech either of them ha= s > ever given. The winner will have to find a way to unite the country. If > Gov. George W. Bush wins, he will have to acknowledge the fact that he > lost the popular vote, but will still become president. If Vice Presiden= t > Al Gore wins, he will have to find a way to convince the Republicans tha= t > he didn't somehow take the election away from their candidate. And the > pressure will be on the loser as well. Whoever loses, if they want to have > a political future, they will have to be gracious and yet still find a way > to position themselves for 2004. So our plan is to turn to two former > presidential speechwriters and ask them to write the victory speech for > each candidate, to give us those crucial phrases that might heal this > divide. > =20 > Unless of course, the spokesman for the court comes out and says they have > reached their decision. If that happens, there will be lots of yelling, > running around, chaos. And that will just be here in the "Nightline" > office. If that happens, all bets are off and we will report the events of > the day as they occur. If the decision doesn't come today, then we'll go > ahead with our plan for tonight, and then come back in tomorrow to start > waiting again. It's got to end sometime...doesn't it? > =20 > Tuesday, November 21, 2000 > =20 > Leroy Sievers > Executive Producer > "Nightline" Office > Washington, D.C. > =20 > --- > =20 > Find comprehensive political coverage at: > http://abcnews.go.com/index.html=20 > =20 > Chat with Nightline guests and find articles, transcripts and video=20 > excerpts on our Web site at: > http://abcnews.go.com/onair/nightline/NightlineIndex.html=20 > =20 > You can unsubscribe to the Nightline e-mail at:=20 > http://abcnews.go.com/onair/dailynews/nightlineunsubscribe.html > =20 > --- > You are currently subscribed to nightlinemail-l as: [log in to unmask] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [log in to unmask] Abdoulie A. 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Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:24:15 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Lamine Conteh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dumo Saho Petition MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Please add my name to this noble cause. The struggle continues. The dictator must go. Naphiyo, Muhammad Lamine Jassey-Conteh > [Original Message] > From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Date: 11/19/00 10:24:22 PM > Subject: Re: Dumo Saho Petition > > Kabirr: > > Please, do add my name to the Dumo Saho latest petition. By the way, I was > going through "The Black World Today" Web Page, and came across this > article, by chance. Dumo Saho's name is mentioned in it. Anyway, I am > forwarding it for your perusal. > > Brother Tijan Jobarteh: I hope the Journalist (Charisse Waugh) who wrote the > story below, did not misquote you. Well, I know you are more than > capable/competent to clarify issues if need be. Cheers! > > Ebrima Ceesay > Birmingham, UK. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Crackdowns in The Gambia > > > By Charisse L. Waugh > > > At the conclusion of President Clinton's trip to Africa last month, he > conferred with Hosni Mubarak, President of Egypt, about issues concerning > the Northern African region. It was a familiar photo op: An American > President and his Egyptian counterpart in grave conversation. Nothing about > Clinton's activities in Africa was unfamiliar though, at least not to anyone > who has read a newspaper, watched a nightly newscast or a public television > documentary here in the last few years. > > Sierra Leone, Nigeria, and Burundi, the main subjects of those programs, > were also the focus of Clinton's diplomatic exercise on the world's second > largest continent. There are other African countries, however, which have > escaped the radar of the western press. But they too are experiencing a > reversal of their human rights, social and economic fortunes. > > The Gambia is one such country. So tenuous is the human rights situation > there, that as Clinton and his entourage were traveling to Africa, a senior > producer at The Gambia's state run television station was heading to the > U.S. seeking refuge from possible arrest by the Gambia's National > Intelligence Agency. > > Tijan Jobarteh, a U.S. educated journalist who has served as the senior > producer at Gambia Television Services for the past six years was attending > a communications conference in South Africa when he received word that a > colleague with whom he had founded a community center in the Gambia had been > arrested with seven others and charged with treason. It was the latest in a > number of events which last month prompted Representative John Lewis of > Georgia to prepare a written condemnation of the country's increasingly > brutal and authoritarian government. > > Last April, 13 high school students were shot dead by the police while > participating in a peaceful demonstration against the death of a 13-year-old > boy who died in March while in the custody of fire officers. According to > Gambian press reports, the official autopsy showed that the boy had > apparently been beaten to death. Also prompting the student protests was > the rape in early February of a young girl allegedly by uniformed officers > at a sporting event in front of witnesses. No arrests have been made. > > Crackdowns on the press have become arbitrary and frequent. Last month a > popular radio station was firebombed, and its proprietor injured. No one > has claimed responsibility for that assault, but it came a few days after > President Yah Yah Jammeh, in a speech to youth, threatened the state radio > for its broadcasts. > > "I don't want to be associated with the government anymore," says Jobarteh. > "The security forces have been given carte blanche to do what they want. > The President is creating another ton-ton macoute," claims the 40 year old > journalist in reference to the Gambia's National Intelligence Agency's > resemblance to the notorious security forces who showered death over the > country of Haiti during the Duvalier regime. > > Until now, The Gambia has enjoyed reasonably positive press in the U.S. Its > most controversial coverage being the question of whether Alex Haley's > "Roots" in which Haley claimed Gambian ancestry was authentic or not. > > Last June, an op-ed article appeared in the Journal of Commerce praising the > Gambia's 35-year-old President for "representing hope for a brighter future > and an end to the social ethnic and religious scourges that have kept > problem-ridden African off the global agenda." The editorial was > subsequently entered into the congressional record by three African-American > congressmen who visited The Gambia in 1999. Representative Bennie Thompson > of Mississippi was part of that entourage along with Representative James > Clyburn of South Carolina and Earl Hilliard, a congressman from Alabama. > Thompson says he did not see anything amiss during his trip. "At that time > the situation had not de-stabilized," said Thompson after learning of the > country's current troubles. "We try not to get involved in the political > situation of a country anyway. We try to go in and change the quality of > life of individuals through the use of foreign aid." Thompson explained > that every member of the Congressional Black Caucus has a piece of the > "motherland" that they try to help by lobbying for aid here in the U.S. "We > have done this for Sierra Leone, and other countries whose governments we > don't agree with. Our history is very consistent with this." > > Jobarteh attended college in the U.S. He earned his Bachelor’s and Master’s > in Media Studies from the New School University in New York. > > After completing his studies in 1994, he returned to his native Gambia. "I > was thinking I could contribute something positive," he says. > > A few months before his arrival, Jammeh, then a 29-year-old army officer, > had seized control of the government in a coup that upheld Gambia's > reputation for peace. He ousted Dada Diawara the only President to serve > since the close of British rule over 30 years ago. > > By 1995, Jobarteh was made a principle producer at the state run television. > He immediately began trying to influence its programming, and changing the > format from mainly soccer games and local soap operas to more substantial > fare. For example, he aired a documentary on the Million Man March held in > Washington, D.C. in 1995. He says: "People loved it. They were calling the > station." > > Buoyed by the enthusiastic response, Jobarteh began scheduling documentary > programming every Monday night during prime time. He showed films and > videos he had acquired from friends in New York City such as a documentary > about Malcolm X by the African-American filmmaker St. Claire Bourne. > Subsequent documentary subjects were Kwame Nkrumah, Frantz Fanon and other > political and historical figures. "I was trying to find material relevant > to the history of Gambia and West Africa. I knew it was successful, because > people expressed their opinions in newspapers and to the station itself." > > In December of 1996 Jobarteh was suspended indefinitely. He believes it was > his programming decisions that left him vulnerable. "They couldn't pin me > on that though, because what I was showing mirrored their rhetoric," he says > referring to the two-year-old government and its youthful President who > often praised the virtues of socialism and pan-African values. "They knew I > was political, but I was professional." > > The official reason given by the government for the suspension, according to > Jobarteh, was because he refused to interrupt scheduled programming to send > a crew to film government officials as they were breaking ground for a new > Insurance Institution. > > The country was about to elect a new President and political campaigning was > heavy. Jobarteh who was in charge of coordinating all of the political > broadcasts, says he didn't think it was fair to the other candidates to make > special arrangements for the government. There were more than 20 different > parties vying for the presidency and other offices just two years after the > coup. > > "Fundamentally, I believed we had a new democracy. My guiding principle was > to give equal time to everybody. I thought the people could decide for > themselves." > > "I had been out of the country for 10 years. How could I come home and take > a stand. All the parties were new anyway." > > Jobarteh was eventually reinstated to his position. > > He was attending a conference in South Africa on children's educational > television programming when he received an email about his colleague's, > Momodou Dumo Sarho, abduction by the National Intelligence Agency. He and > Sarho were the main coordinators of a community center they had founded a > few years ago for poor youths. The center provided educational and > recreational services, and recruited the country's professional class to > volunteer as teachers and mentors. About 60% of the youths who participated > were girls. "Education for girls is very important in the Gambia," says > Jobarteh. "Traditionally this is the group that has been left out." > > Jobarteh is extremely concerned about the well being of Sarho. "No one has > seen him since his arrest. Not his lawyer or his wife. We don't even know > if he is alive," Jobarteh says of the 45-year-old community activist. > > "Here is a man who dedicated his whole life to working for his people and > this is what he gets. This is very scary." > > Instead of returning to the Gambia from the conference in South Africa, > Jobarteh took the advice of his family and friends who told him that he > should "lay low." He traveled to Sweden and then made his way to New Jersey > where he is temporarily living with relatives. > > While he is here Jobarteh plans on pursuing his Ph.D., but he intends to > return home soon. "I'm not fearful of my own life," he says. "I'm fearful > about what is happening to my country, and what it is becoming." > > © 2000 The Black World Today. All Rights Reserved. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lamine Conteh --- [log in to unmask] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:52:53 -0600 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Allegations of voting rights violations need invest igation (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Saiks. That thought has often crossed my mind during this whole election mess. Just goes to show that, in my opinion, the USA is not so much better than everyone else. Now, we won't be able to go to some third world country in South America or somewhere else and "fix" their elections just because of some irregularities we think we are seeing. I say this because we are having our own problems here. Ginny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saikou Samateh" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 8:02 AM Subject: Re: Allegations of voting rights violations need invest igation (fwd) > Hi, > Is this the USA or Cammeron in Africa,just wondering. > > For Freedom > Saiks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ylva Hernlund <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 8:10 PM > Subject: Allegations of voting rights violations need invest igation (fwd) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 03:27:40 EST > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Allegations of voting rights violations need invest igation > > Folks~ > It will only take 5 minutes of your precious time to read this and maybe 2 > minutes to send emails to the news programs. Please take the time to do so. > It could mean a positive change for our country. It's time this stuff got > brought out into the light so it can be corrected. Thanks~ Tori > > > Subj: [FAIR-L] ACTION ALERT: Allegations of voting rights violations need > invest igation > Date: 11/17/00 6:19:56 PM Pacific Standard Time > From: [log in to unmask] (FAIR-L) > Sender: [log in to unmask] (media analysis, critiques and news > reports) > Reply-to: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > > FAIR-L > Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting > Media analysis, critiques and news reports > > > > > > ACTION ALERT: > Allegations of voting rights violations need investigation > > November 17, 2000 > > Since November 7, major media outlets have devoted enormous attention to the > aftermath of the presidential election in Florida. But one critical aspect > of this story has received relatively little attention: the allegations of a > pattern of voting irregularities and discrimination against > African-Americans and other minority groups that may violate the 15th > Amendment and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. > > Upon request from major civil rights groups, including the NAACP and the > Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Justice Department is > deciding whether to pursue a federal investigation into allegations of > significant harassment of minority voters in Florida and elsewhere > throughout the country. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 makes it illegal to > intimidate, threaten, coerce or prevent any individual from exercising his > or her right to vote. > > These are some of the disturbing and highly newsworthy charges that deserve > more media attention: > > --Charles Weaver, publisher of Community Voice, a Fort Myers African > American weekly paper, witnessed "intimidation, harassment and apparent > illegal activity" at a polling place he visited. ''There were illegal poll > watchers, threatening people, telling them, 'I know where you work. You're > going to get fired,''' Weaver told the Inter Press Service (11/14/00). The > same article reported that Tallahassee police set up traffic checks at the > entrance to a polling place in a black neighborhood; that police in Newport > News, Va. stopped people at checkpoints; and some black voters were turned > away from polls in St. Louis for not having voter registration cards, even > though registration cards were not required from white voters. > > --In an NAACP public hearing held in Miami (C-Span, 11/11/00), Stacy Powers, > a former police officer who currently serves as news director for Tampa > radio station WTMP, spoke of witnessing numerous voting irregularities in > her election day travels through city neighborhoods. Powers testified that > she saw people being turned away from several polling places in the black > community after being told their names were not on voting lists. When Powers > reminded poll workers that an individual can legally sign an affidavit and > vote even if their name isn't on an official list, she said, she was ejected > from several polling places (Daily News, 11/17/00). > > -- Miami's Donnise DeSouza testified that she was denied the right to vote > after being shuttled to several polling places and told her name was not on > the list. When she checked with the elections board the next day, she said, > she found her name was in fact on the list. Many other voters were told > they'd been dropped from the rolls as convicted felons, even though they had > never been arrested, and that names of black college students who registered > this summer never showed up on voter lists, according to the NAACP hearings > (Daily News, 11/17/00). > > --According to the New York Times (11/17/00), more than 26,000 ballots were > disqualified in the largely Republican area of Duval County-- four times the > total in 1996. The Times notes that nearly 9,000 of these ballots were cast > in predominately African-American communities around Jacksonville, which > registered support for Al Gore over George Bush at a ten-to-one ratio. (The > November 17 Daily News places the number of rejected African-American votes > in Duval County at more than 12,000, nearly 60 percent of disqualified > ballots). > > --Derek Drake, an editor of the black weekly newspaper Central Florida > Advocate, told the London Financial Times (11/16/00) that Haitian Americans > and Hispanics, unlike whites, were often asked for two forms of > identification. "There was either something of a conspiratorial nature going > on or there was mass incompetence," Drake said. In a recent column for the > Los Angeles Syndicate (11/12/00), the Reverend Jesse Jackson noted that > ballot boxes in black communities went uncounted, voters were turned away > after being told there were no ballots left, and Creole speakers were not > allowed to assist Haitian immigrants voting for the first time. > > Such exclusionary voting practices are hardly limited to Florida, or to > racial minorities. According to a Federal Election Commission report cited > by the Center for an Accessible Society, more than 20,000 U.S. polling > places fail to meet the minimal requirements of accessibility, depriving > people with disabilities of their fundamental right to vote. (Some of their > stories are documented by the Center's magazine, Ragged Edge Online, at > http://www.raggededgemagazine.com/1100/1100votestory.htm .) > > In New York City, Columbia University journalism students reported that > citywide voting irregularities included broken ballot booths, the denial of > translation assistance and insufficient instructions given to first-time > Russian voters hoping to support a write-in candidate, and the transposing > of the Chinese characters for "Republican" and "Democrat" on wall posters at > polling places and on columns in ballot machines (City Limits Weekly, > 11/13/00). > > As Juan Gonzalez of the Daily News noted (11/17/00), "Congress passed the > Voting Rights Act specifically to dismantle the Jim Crow laws -- including > poll taxes and literacy tests -- that kept blacks from voting in the South > for most of the 20th Century." Major media should investigate the > allegations of fraud, harassment, intimidation and voter profiling in > Florida and throughout the country, to determine whether or not the 2000 > election included civil rights violations akin to latter-day Jim Crow voter > discrimination. > > ACTION: Contact major media and request they conduct in-depth investigations > into allegations of violations to the Voting Rights Act of 1965. > > CONTACT: > NBC Nightly News > Phone: 212-664-4971 or 202-885-4259 > Fax: 202-362-2009 > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > ABC World News Tonight > Phone: 212-456-4040 > Fax: 212-456-2795 > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > CBS Evening News > Phone: 212-975-3691, 202-457-4385 > Fax: 212-975-1893 > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > For more media contacts, see: > http://www.fair.org/media-contact-list.html > > ---------- > > Feel free to respond to FAIR ( [log in to unmask] ). We can't reply to > everything, but we will look at each message. 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An Indian Medical Doctor told me this morning that she feels like she is in Bombay. So there must be a lot of similarities here. Death people voting? Could u imagine. I thought that only happened in the Jawara regime. Hey! how about a recount in the Sami district? Ousman Bojang. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:18:13 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD: Security Council warns former junta chief in Guinea Bissau Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed UNITED NATIONS, Nov 21 (AFP) - The UN Security Council on Tuesday warned the self-proclaimed army chief of the West African state of Guinea Bissau it would hold him responsible if the country fell into chaos. In a statement, the council said it "disapproved of the action taken by General Ansumane Mane", who announced on Monday that he was taking over as head of the army without the consent of President Kumba Yala, a civilian. Mane led a military junta which ousted the former president, Joao Bernardo Vieira on May 7 last year, before handing the country back to civilian rule after elections in November. "Council members will hold General Mane responsible if (his action) will lead to further unrest and chaos," the statement said. In a radio broadcast, Mane said he had decided to take over the army because he was displeased with military appointments made last week by Yala. He also claimed he had been the object of an attempt to "physically eliminate" him. Describing himself as "supreme commander of the military junta," he appealed for calm, saying the affair was "purely military". In Bissau on Tuesday, Defense Minister Fernando Correia Landim said in a statement that the takeover was "anti-democratic" and that the authorities would seek to assure that the law was respected. But opposition groups criticised what they called the government's mistakes and said Mane's decision was likely to "stabilise the situation" in the army. Mane's relations with Yala have appeared strained in recent weeks, and he has been saying he wants more responsibility in the running of the country. In its statement, the council appealed to Mane "to start dialogue with the government on the basis of constitutional order." The statement was read to reporters by the Dutch ambassador to the United Nations, Peter van Walsum, who holds the presidency of the council this month. It expressed concern "that the renewed political unrest is harmful to the consolidation of peace and the commitment of donors to support the reconstruction of Guinea Bissau." Only last month, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan warned the council that the government of Guinea Bissau faced serious economic difficulty, largely because of the need to pay the salaries of almost 26,000 soldiers. In a report to the council on October 4, Annan said "the former military junta still seems reluctant to give up the role it played during the transitional period" that followed the bloody coup against Vieira. The council called on the former junta "to fully subordinate to the constitutional authorities and to translate into reality their promise to withdraw from the political process." One of the smallest countries in Africa, covering 36,260 square kilometres (13,945 square miles) between Senegal to the north and Guinea to the east and south, Guinea Bissau is one of the poorest on earth. It ranks 169th out of 174 countries on the UN's human development index, with life expectancy at birth below 45 years, an adult literacy rate of 36.7 percent, and per capita GDP of 616 dollars in 1998. rh/ch _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Ouattara, a popular former prime minister, was barred from standing in last month's presidential poll, under constitutional changes brought in by the regime of former military ruler General Robert Guei. A Supreme Court ruling then said he had suspect identity documents and had in the past used another nationality, that of Ivory Coast's northern neighbour Burkina Faso. On Wednesday the National Electoral Commission will announce which candidates are eligible to stand in the December 10 vote. Ouattara's name is the one everyone will be watching out for. Whilst a presidential hopeful, Ouattara, who leads the Rally of Republicans (RDR), had said he would not stand for a seat in the national assembly. But last week he announced he would run for the northern Kong constituency, standing in for his brother who was taking retirement. Ouattara's opponents reacted with indignation. Notre Voie newspaper, the mouthpiece of new president Laurent Gbagbo's Ivorian Popular Front (FPI) party immediately published a piece on problem candidacies. "Under what pretext can Ouattara's candidacy be retained?" the article asked. Ouattara's supporters clashed violently with Gbagbo supporters last month after Guei's ouster, and at least 100 people were killed. Ouattara's supporters were calling for fresh polls. They have since reluctantly accepted Gbagbo's victory, with both Ouattara and the new president stressing the need for peace and reconciliation. The electoral commission has the first call on candidates, but then any voter on the electoral list is allowed to contest a candidacy the commission approves. If that happens -- and many here say that is inevitable -- the case goes before the Supreme Court, the body which last time ruled against Ouattara. Ouattara's lawyers say they are hopeful this time, pointing out the the conditions of eligibility for the legislatives are less restrictive than for the presidency. They say that the list of objections presented by the Supreme Court barring Ouattara from the presidential race contains no elements that could exclude him from the legislatives. RDR lawyers also claim the first decision was a political one "motivated by circumstances". Most here say the Supreme Court was the puppet of the former military regime, after Guei placed his former legal adviser, Tia Kone, at its head. "Now the circumstances have changed, we are not worried," said lawyer Emmanuel Assi. The new government is holding up the separation of powers in the state to wash its hands of the matter. "It is not for the government to say whether Mr Ouattara can be a candidate in the legislative elections," said Defence Minister Moise Lida Kouassi. "Individual voters can contest the eligibility of a candidate, then it is up to the Supreme Court. The government does not figure at any stage of the process," he added. As from Wednesday, voters have three days to contest a candidacy. The candidate has two days to reply and the Supreme Court has another three days to rule. so/crl/kc _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Mane, a former junta leader in the small west African country, on Monday "sacked" the man President Kumba Yala had put in the post, Colonel Verissimo Correia Seabra, and declared null and void the promotion of 30 other officers. Top officers, including the deputy chief of general staff and the air force chief of staff, have been under house arrest since Monday and soldiers have been posted outside their homes, an AFP correspondent said. Colonel Correia Seabra was likewise detained, while unconfirmed reports said that a fourth officer was being held. Tensions between elements in the army and politicians were running high again, but life went on calmly on Wednesday in Bissau, the capital, which was battered by artillery fire and saw an exodus of civilians in the late 199Os. The UN Security Council on Tuesday warned Mane, who took power in a May 1999 coup until a civilian government was restored in February this year, that it would hold him responsible if his actions "lead to further unrest and chaos". On Wednesday morning, a goodwill commission of religious and civic leaders began trying to mediate a solution to the crisis between Mane and Yala, whose constitutional powers the ex-junta chief has defied, national radio reported. The outcome of the mediation bid remained unknown by around 1:00 p.m. (1300 GMT), but a diplomat who asked not to be named said there was little hope of settling an underlying crisis between politicians and a divided military. "The general is stubborn and intransigent and the president cannot back down," the diplomat said. "It's a deadlock." Yala, who was elected head of state in January, has made no public comment, but after an emergency session, the government on Tuesday issued a statement calling on the military "to submit themselves to the constitution and legally elected civilian authorities". The UN Security Council made a similar appeal and urged Mane "to start dialogue with the government on the basis of constitutional order." Mane ousted the former president, Joao Bernardo Vieira on May 7 last year, before handing the country back to civilian rule. Since then, he has appeared reluctant to stay out of politics. In a radio broadcast on Monday, Mane said he had decided to take over the army because he was displeased with the appointments made last week by Yala and contended that the president lacked the experience to take such decisions. He also claimed he had been the object of an attempt to "physically eliminate" him. Describing himself as "supreme commander of the military junta," he appealed for calm, saying the affair was "purely military". In Bissau on Tuesday, Defense Minister Fernando Correia Landim said in a statement that the takeover was "anti-democratic" and that the authorities would seek to assure that the law was respected. However, some opposition groups criticised what they called the government's mistakes and said Mane's decision was likely to "stabilise the situation" in the army. On October 4, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan warned the council that the government faced serious economic difficulty, largely because of the need to pay the salaries of almost 26,000 soldiers. str-at/nb/gd _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:14:15 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Jeng, Beran" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD:1997 Constitution Under Review Daily Observer (Banjul) November 21, 2000 Pa Kalifa Sanyang Banjul The head of the Commonwealth Ministerial Action Group(CMAG) delegation to the country, Alhaji Sule Lamido, told newsmen yesterday that his delegation received assurances from President Yahya Jammeh that the 1997 Constitution is undergoing some amendments. Alhaji Sule whose delegation held a closed-door meeting with President Jammeh at State House yesterday, said the constitutional amendment is aimed at repealing some laws that are inconsistent with the Constitution. The Nigerian foreign affairs minister said President Jammeh had quoted a section of the Constitution which says "any law which is inconsistent with the constitution will remain null and void to the level of that inconsistency", describing it as a "very encouraging" remark by the President. Asked whether specific reference was made to decree 89 which has been a subject of widespread controversy, the Nigerian foreign minister said, "The President talked about a process of constitutional amendment based on a certain constitutional provision and if my conclusions from what he had said are right, that particular decree is obviously on its way out." He said President Jammeh had indicated to the delegation that all obnoxious and exclusive decrees that were passed during the transition period would be brought in line with the Constitution according to the aspirations of the Gambian people. Alhaji Sule explained that his delegation's mission is to assist The Gambia in effecting internal reconciliation so that the entire country can forge ahead as a family. During their 3-day assessment mission, the Commonwealth delegation will hold talks with secretaries of state, leaders of political parties, Non Governmental Organisations and the media. At their last meeting in September this year, the Commonwealth Ministerial Action Group (CMAG) agreed on an early dispatch of a mission to The Gambia at the invitation of President Jammeh. The group also expressed the desire to see The Gambia government foster a more inclusive political environment, and in particular, repeal decree 89 which proscribed certain political parties and banned certain individuals from partisan politics. The group also expressed concern at other restrictions imposed on political parties and the media. The delegation included Hon Tan Sri Dato'Musa Bin Hitam, a special envoy of the Malaysian president, and some Commonwealth Secretariat staff. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:28:31 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Jah family of Primet and Rankin Street regret to announce the death of Alh Kebba Jah which sad event occurred yesterday. Alh Kebba has worked several years at the R.V.H as a dresser dispenser and had his private clinic at his residence . He was known by all his neighbours as < Bai Defal Jalla > Our condolence to Dr Jah in the U.s , Ndey and the rest of the family. May his soul rest in perfect peace. Chi Jamma, Bro. Sheikh Tejan Nyang. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:49:29 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ylva Hernlund <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [AfricaMatters] FW: Invitation to participate in ENVIRONMENT AFRICA, 2001 (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:26:10 -0800 From: International Bicycle Fund <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: [log in to unmask] To: us-afr <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [AfricaMatters] FW: Invitation to participate in ENVIRONMENT AFRIC= A, 2001 -----Original Message----- From: Mike Anane [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 1:25 PM Subject: Invitation to participate in ENVIRONMENT AFRICA, 2001 Dear Colleague, ENVIRONMENT AFRICA, 2001: THEME: Our Global Footprints =96 International Partnerships for Sustainable Development. The League of Environmental Journalists (LEJ) and the International Centre for Environmental Communications (ICEC) wish to invite you to participate in its ENVIRONMENT AFRICA, 2001 programme. This exciting three weeks long intercultural Environmental Education programme is under the theme: Our Global Footprints =96 International Partnerships for Sustainable Development. This three week long programme full of adventure, unique cultures and fascinating histories will take place in Ghana, West Africa and will be organised during the months of February 8th =961st March, April 8th-29th, May 8th-29th, June 8th =9629th, July 8th-29th, August 8th-29th, September 8th-29th, October 8th-29th, Nov 8th -29, 2001. Indeed, environmental problems and economic systems are becoming more and more global, thus making the need to create and strengthen global alliances for global sustainability more imperative. It is in this light that environmentalists and other stakeholders from many nations and cultures would benefit from meeting in Ghana to voice their concern for the health and future of the planet, discuss areas of mutual co-operation and forge a common front. Indeed, we are linked together with a common destiny and have to work together to find solutions to the environmental problems plaguing our planet The LEJ and ICEC believe that sustaining and maintaining the environment as a natural basis of life for future generations is certainly a challenge the whole world should face as a people, without a concerted and united approach one country could undo the gains of others. Hence the decision of the LEJ and ICEC to institute the ENVIRONMENT AFRICA programme to identify ways of recognizing our global footprints, i.e. the environmental and social impacts and other consequences of certain practices and lifestyles in our countries on people and nature in other countries and continents. Indeed, this is a unique opportunity to share knowledge, experience and understanding and to create cooperation and networking across continents. The programme offers Northern Environmental Journalists, Scientists, Environmental Educators, curious travelers, writers, researchers and students in Universities/ Media and Environment Training Institutions the opportunity to visit local conservation and education projects, degraded sites and interact with activists and affected communities in Africa. The aim of the programme is to familiarize participants with diverse environmental and development issues in Africa, deepen their understanding of global environmental issues and inspire people of diverse cultures to join hands in conserving natural resources and protect the earth =91s environment to achieve a peaceful, equitable and sustainable future. The LEJ and the ICEC believe that cross cultural learning, living and studying together on a micro =96 scale are an essential part of creating or strengthening global alliances for global sustainability. This informal learning programme takes the form of cross =96 culture interactions; country presentations; sharing of experiences and testimonies from participants about their battles against ecological devastation; initiation of group projects in rural communities in Ghana; study tours of ecological sites, and lessons in traditional African Music and Dancing. The programme is also designed to give participants an immersion experience in African culture through home =96 stay living arrangements or decent and affordable hotel accommodation facilities. Participants will have the opportunity to learn about the diverse cultures and artistic heritage of Ghana, the history of slavery in the region and the environmental issues facing Ghana as a nation. The three week programme will provide participants with an intense learning experience and first hand knowledge of environment and development issues and social life in Ghana, and the opportunity to share ideas, experience and knowledge This three week long learning experience builds environmental awareness and appreciation through a series of lectures, hands-on classes, outdoor activities: study tours fieldtrips, receptions, workshops, technology demonstrations and other special events. Some of the issues to be covered include Environmental Education and Communication; the links between third world debts and environmental degradation; Community approaches to wildlife management; Building on indigenous systems of local knowledge, natural resource use, and locally supported decision-making structures and initiatives; Field investigation of selected existing community wildlife initiatives; the impact of human land use, including community wildlife management initiatives, on the wildlife resource and bio-diversity; Bio-diversity conservation, indigenous knowledge and gender; Violation of indigenous people=92s right and deforestation; Traditional African Religion and conservation; World bank policies and the Environment; Environmental Degradation and Human rights Violations; Gold mining and the environment; Rainforest Ecology. We will also explore how environmental journalists, communicators, campaigners and researchers can support each other in information gathering, dissemination etc. and how participants and local groups can co-operate to promote ecologically sustainable communities worldwide. As part of the programme, we shall draw on the international range of perspectives and experiences of the course participants as well as the expertise of highly experienced environmental/developmental education practitioners and academics. Presentations would be followed by intense discussions among participants and resource persons on issues raised. At the end of it all, not only would participants discover new sides of themselves but also be able to build broad networks through partnership between individuals, international and local organisations in order to develop joint projects, share experience and break down isolation. It is also the view of the LEJ and ICEC that the programme would eventually lead to the recognition that we live in an interdependent world and that our individual as well as collective actions affect our common future As we continue to discover what=92s new, unusual and extraordinary about the world we live in, it is with great enthusiasm that we invite you to join us for the experience of a lifetime. I sincerely hope this information would be of value to you, should you wish to participate in the programme, please complete the registration form attached and send by mail or fax. Please do not hesitate to contact the secretariat for further information or clarification. An official of ICEJ would meet each participant on arrival at the airport in Ghana. Be our guest; participate in the three weeks programme that may change your life I look forward to hearing from you. Yours faithfully Mike Anane(UNEP Global 500 Laureate) Programme Coordinator Facts about Ghana: Ghana lies on the West Coast of Africa on the Gulf of Guinea where Africa bulges westward into the Atlantic Ocean. With some of the liveliest cities and friendliest people in West Africa, Ghana has a multiplicity of other nationals from all over the world who live and work there either as Ghanaian citizens or permanent residents. The capital is Accra and the official language is English. Ghana=92s cities are not dramatically different from western lifestyles with restaurant, nightclubs and others. STUDY TOURS: A) Linking human rights and the environment: Case study-the mining industry in Ghana=92s Western Region: The growing zeal among developing countries=92 governments to attract foreign investment to the mining sector has led to sweeping reforms in the mineral sector policies of various countries with mixed consequences. The belief is that such new investment means new and cleaner technologies, organizational methods and efficient use of resources. In Ghana for instance, the growing agitation and outrage expressed by some communities, often violently suggests that more work is needed to understand and tackle the problem of the environmental impact of mining projects on the local communities. The activities of these mostly foreign mining companies have often raised major human rights issues. Problems include forcible evictions, compensation and access to fair court procedures, pollution of sources of drinking water with cyanide, mercury and arsenic which are used extensively in mining operations. There will be opportunities to interact and interview affected communities and mine operators. (B) A stay in typical rural African villages where participants would meet traditional leaders and their elders and interact with people in the communities. (C) Ecology of lake Bosumtwi: Excursion to Lake Bosomtwi, a beautiful crater lake with lush green surrounding hills. Not only is Bosumtwi the country=92s largest and deepest natural lake(78 metres in the centre), but it is also sacred . The Ashanti believe that their souls come here after death to bid farewell to their gods. Believed to be the abode of the gods, Lake Bosumtwi is accorded respect and veneration, entry in the lake to wash clothes or bathe or collect water on certain days is forbidden. Discharge of human and industrial waste into the lake could therefore attract severe punishment from the gods. With these conservation ideas shrouded in traditional religious beliefs, the over thirty surrounding villages have lived harmoniously with the lake for years whilst enjoying clean water and lasting fish stock from the lake throughout the year. There are other interesting beliefs that the local guide will be too glad to recount for you under the moonlit night. (D) Visit to Kakum Nature Park and adjoining Game production reserve with Africa=92s only canopy walkway. Its semi deciduous rainforest has been developed into eco- tourism attraction. With a large number of climbers and creepers, the diverse and dense vegetation supports the forest elephant, Diana Monkey, Olive Colobus Monkey, Red river hog and the Duiker. In all, 40 species of larger mammals including seven species of primates and over 200 species of birds are found at the Kakum National Park. (E) Participants would also visit the Cape Coast and Elmina slave castles built with slave labour by the Dutch, Danish and British in the seventeenth century to contain slaves before shipment. On show are the stale rooms and dungeons shackles and muzzle loading muskets used during the slavery period in the Gold Coat now Ghana. (F) Environmental and Social impacts of large Dams, Case Study: Akosombo Dam. Rated Capacity: 912 MW, constructed by: Impreglio (Italy),Dam Size: 134 meters high, 671 meters long, Area flooded: Approximately 8,500 square kilometers People relocated: 80,000, from 740 villages.there will be a tour of the Volta River Authority=92s Akosombo hydroelectric dam on the largest man-made lake in the world and a cruise undertaken on the Volta lake to the Dodi Island. (G) Coastal and Marine Conservation Strategies: Trips have also been planned to some of the spectacular sandy and palm lined beaches in the country, where participants can observe the fishers as they roll in their catch to the sun =96 kissed beaches threatened by erosion and pollution. Experts on marine issues and other representatives from the country=92s EPA will deliver presentations on a wide range of marine issues. Fieldtrips will also be undertaken to some degraded coastal areas. An action plan will be drawn by participants after the programme to raise awareness of the need for clean beaches and the need to conserve life in the ocean . The LEJ is of the view that the ocean plays a critical role in our everyday life and in the future of our planet. Our overall objective therefore is to get more people to understand this and begin to appreciate the earth as a water planet, and to take action to conserve the ocean and the web of life it supports. For people to choose sustainable over destructive means of livelihood, they must have sufficient understanding and information to be able to fully appreciate the ramifications of various choices. Environmental education and raising of awareness are even more important for marine than for terrestrial conservation. Whether efforts to maintain clean beaches and protect marine ecosystems in the country succeeds or fails will ultimately depend on the active involvement of informed and enlightened citizens some of whom can be educated through work of participants. Public support is the first and most fundamental requirement for any marine conservation initiative. Because most people know so little about the marine realm, about underwater species ( some of the most important of which, the phytoplankton, are invisible), about marine ecological processes. Considerable gains can be made just by educating the public, the media, NGOs, and government officials. Moreover, any local solutions to manage coastal resources sustainably must begin by involving coastal communities, and working together to ensure the integrity of the resource base. The significance of the project is that it will encourage policy makers and citizens to adopt measures that will effectively and appropriately address threats to the integrity of marine bio-diversity and ecological processes. The significance of the project is that it will encourage policy makers and citizens to adopt measures that will effectively and appropriately address threats to the integrity of marine bio-diversity and ecological processes. (H) Presentation on Traditional African religion and its role in conservation: A trip would also be undertaken to the Boaben Fiema Monkey Sanctuary where you can observe monkeys feed, play and sleep in the open forest. Believed to be sacred, by the surrounding communities, these black and white Colobus and Mona monkeys move around freely in homes in the area playing on the compound without being harmed by humans-A veritable case of traditional African religion contributing to the conservation of endangered species of primates. (I)Presentation on Sacred Groves and Bio-diversity Conservation These fetish or sacred groves which are often patches of forests ranging from 0.5 to about 1500 hectares, serve as burial grounds for royal families or abodes of traditional gods or fetishes. With conservation ideas shrouded in traditional religious beliefs and practices, some communities in Ghana have been using forests, water and land resources sustainably for many years thus promoting conservation of vegetation, bio-diversity and ecological balance. Some of the few patches of forests that the country can boast of today can be found in these sacred places and are now protected by law . Sadly, Christianity, Science, poverty and Western education continue to threaten some of these traditional beliefs and practices. Participants would be treated to a session to observe the activities of some custodians of the sacred groves (fetish priests): drumming, chanting, dancing and working themselves into a frenzy, the fetish priest would brief the participants on traditional African religion and its role in environmental conservation. This would be followed by a debate amongst participants on the relevance of traditional religious beliefs to modern day environmental protection and conservation strategies. Social Evenings: These are occasions when participants would brief the group about their countries, lifestyles, local customs, environmental problems, successes and failures. Participants are encouraged to bring along small articles of interest from their countries to use during presentations e.g., music, videos etc. Social evenings are important because they further international understanding. Who Is the Programme For? Mass media professionals, Environmental Educators, Campaigners, Researchers, University Students and all interested in environment, development and international partnerships. The programme can be customized to meet the needs and interests of individuals or groups. Internship opportunities are also available. REGISTRATION FORM Applicant=92s Name=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85= =85=85=85=85=85=85=85. Postal Address=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85= =85=85=85=85=85=85=85.. Name of Organisation=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85= =85=85=85=85=85=85.. Postal Address=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85= =85=85=85=85=85=85=85. Tel=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85 Fax=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85Email=85=85= =85=85=85=85=85=85=85.. Which programme would you like to participate? Please tick the relevant date below.=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85.. February 8th =961st March, April 8th-29th, May 8th-29th, June 8th =9629th, July 8th-29th, August 8th-29th, September 8th-29th, October 8th-29th, Nov 8th -29, 2001. How can we help? The Centre aims to provide flexible lively and objective training which as far as possible addresses the needs of each participant. To assist us in this, please outline your own expectations for the programme. Continue on a separate sheet if necessary. =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85= =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85. =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85= =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85. =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85= =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85. =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85= =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85. =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85= =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85. =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85= =85=85=85=85=85=85=85=85. Please include a brief personal history or Bio-Data. Fees for the three weeks programme, which is 420 US Dollars covers lectures, study visits, educational materials, and accommodation. They do not cover international travel. NB: Fees for the programme are payable on arrival in Ghana. 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Thanks! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Molly Melching Talk Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:23:17 -0800 (PST) From: Human Rights Education HRERN Research Network <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] "A PEACEFUL REVOLUTION: ENDING FEMALE GENITAL CUTTING IN AFRICA" Tuesday, November 28, 2000 2:00 PM HUB 209A Molly Melching Founder of Senegalese Human Rights Organization, Tostan As a student at the University of Illinois, Molly Melching arrived in Senegal in 1974, enrolling as an exchange student at the University of Dakar. Ms. Melching described the experience in a published interview as love at first sight. After finishing her Masters Degree Ms. Melching remained in Senegal as a Peace Corps volunteer and then created a childrens center through the Senegalese Ministry of Culture. She has remained in Senegal ever since. An energetic and charismatic leader, Ms. Melching created Tostan in 1991. Tostan is a non-governmental organization that developed and implements an innovative non-formal education program in national languages for women and adolescents in hundreds of villages throughout Senegal and now in Mali, Burkina Faso and the Sudan. Although founded by Melching, Tostan is in reality a grassroots organization. It provides women and adolescents with skills and concepts of practical use, but leaves application of the lessons up to the participants. For example, it was village women educated by Tostan who decided to combine their lessons in human rights with information they had learned about health and hygiene to start a grassroots movement against female circumcision. This movement, started by women in one village, soon swept to many villages across Senegal. Many articles and films have been produced on this historic experience, including a CNN special for People Count. Tostan was a finalist for the Conrad N. Hilton Prize and was chosen by UNESCO in 1995 as one of the most innovative non-formal education programs in the world. Ms. Melching won the 1999 University of Illinois Alumni Humanitarian Award. Sponsored by UW Human Rights Education & Research Network, Human Services Policy Center, International Health Program, Population Leadership Program and Program on Africa Telephone (425) 352-5421 To request disability accomodations, contact the Office of the ADA Coordinator at least 10 days in advance of the event: 543-6450 (voice); 543-6452 (TDD); 685-3885 (fax); [log in to unmask] (e-mail). *********************************************************** Human Rights Education & Research Network University of Washington, Bothell Box 358530 18115 Campus Way N.E. Bothell, WA 98011-8246 (425) 352-5421 * FAX: (425) 352-3322 Website: http://depts.washington.edu/hrights/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:56:01 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Ivorian opposition leader centre stage again over eligility The Independent Electoral Commission of Cote d'Ivoire has declared Allasan Ouattara eligible to stand as the RDR candidate for Kong in the December Legislative elections. M. Emile Bombet of the PDCI has also been declared eligible to stand. Both politicians were declared ineligible during the Guei regime. Perhaps, Cote d'Ivoire is finally extracating itself from a political disastrous path and on the road to political plurality and tolerance for the good of the country and the sub-region. Sidi Sanneh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:31:59 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FWD:1997 Constitution Under Review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Beran, thanks again for forwarding this article. After reading this and other media where the visit of the Commonwealth officials have been reported, am still at a lost why the visitors were hailing Yaya's move to amend our Constitution. I might be missing something here or perhaps the journalists did not quote the Commonwealth officials properly. If we have laws such as Decree 89 that are clearly repugnant to natural justice and constitutionally guaranteed rights such as freedom of association and freedom of speech, I do not know what repealing those laws has to do with amending the Constitution. Decree 89 does not need a Constitutional amendment or court declaration to render it inapplicable. That Decree is now toilet paper. People should challenge the government to try and use the Decree. When that happens, people will then realize how useless that piece of garbage is. The APRC lawyers discovered that and that is why they counseled Buba Baldeh to defy the Decree. If other politicians defy the Decree, nothing will come out of it. To paraphrase Yaya, 'any Decree that is inconsistent with the Constitution will remain null and void to the extent of that inconsistency'. So if you have a Constitution that guarantees its citizens the right to belong to political parties, any Decree that tries to unjustifiably curtail that right, is null and void. The prepared speech of the moron attests to that. I am not familiar with the latest Gambian Constitution, but I think I can safely guess that the Constitution granted citizens freedom of association and also made the Constitution the supreme law of the land. Therefore, no constitutional amendment is necessary in order to get rid of draconian laws like Decree 89. The Commonwealth officials should ask the authorities to be more specific about the proposed amendments. And they should demand from the authorities explanations that make sense. The reason given by Yaya, as reported in the papers, is illogical. I hope this was not the explanation the Commonwealth officials got from Yaya. If it was, the visitors should have asked Yaya whether Decree 89 was part of the Constitution and therefore needed a constitutional amendment before it could be repealed. Before such international observers give legitimacy to the utterances of morons like Yaya, they should endeavor to get all the logical facts. This revisiting of the Constitution is only aimed at one thing; that is, to perpetuate Yaya and the APRC. These amendments have nothing to do with giving ordinary Gambian citizens more rights and doing what is right. If it was, there will be a provision imposing term limits on the presidency. I respectfully urge the opposition to be very vigilant in this exercise. Pap Cheyassin Secka and Yaya are only interested in taking away rights from the citizens. If we do not watch our back, Secka will help Yaya bring in more laws that will make it more difficult for ordinary citizens to be defended in court. This is the same Secka who thinks that it is constitutional to hold innocent citizens in jail for several months incommunicado. These people are only out to deprive us of the little rights we currently have. Commonwealth officials and opposition party leaders should not assist the AG and Yaya in this fraud. KB >From: "Jeng, Beran" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: FWD:1997 Constitution Under Review >Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:14:15 -0500 > >Daily Observer > >(Banjul) >November 21, 2000 >Pa Kalifa Sanyang >Banjul >The head of the Commonwealth Ministerial Action Group(CMAG) delegation to >the >country, Alhaji Sule Lamido, told newsmen yesterday that his delegation >received >assurances from President Yahya Jammeh that the 1997 Constitution is >undergoing >some amendments. >Alhaji Sule whose delegation held a closed-door meeting with President >Jammeh at >State House yesterday, said the constitutional amendment is aimed at >repealing >some laws that are inconsistent with the Constitution. The Nigerian foreign >affairs minister said President Jammeh had quoted a section of the >Constitution >which says "any law which is inconsistent with the constitution will remain >null >and void to the level of that inconsistency", describing it as a "very >encouraging" remark by the President. >Asked whether specific reference was made to decree 89 which has been a >subject >of widespread controversy, the Nigerian foreign minister said, "The >President >talked about a process of constitutional amendment based on a certain >constitutional provision and if my conclusions from what he had said are >right, >that particular decree is obviously on its way out." He said President >Jammeh >had indicated to the delegation that all obnoxious and exclusive decrees >that >were passed during the transition period would be brought in line with the >Constitution according to the aspirations of the Gambian people. Alhaji >Sule >explained that his delegation's mission is to assist The Gambia in >effecting >internal reconciliation so that the entire country can forge ahead as a >family. >During their 3-day assessment mission, the Commonwealth delegation will >hold >talks with secretaries of state, leaders of political parties, Non >Governmental >Organisations and the media. At their last meeting in September this year, >the >Commonwealth Ministerial Action Group (CMAG) agreed on an early dispatch of >a >mission to The Gambia at the invitation of President Jammeh. >The group also expressed the desire to see The Gambia government foster a >more >inclusive political environment, and in particular, repeal decree 89 which >proscribed certain political parties and banned certain individuals from >partisan politics. The group also expressed concern at other restrictions >imposed on political parties and the media. The delegation included Hon Tan >Sri >Dato'Musa Bin Hitam, a special envoy of the Malaysian president, and some >Commonwealth Secretariat staff. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:21:23 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: James Jatta <[log in to unmask]> Subject: ISDP's in The Gambia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed A friend who lives in The Gambia is trying to select an ISP. I gather there are only two: Gamtel and Quantum Net. Does anyone have any views as to which is the most reliable? Are the subscriptions for each similar? I understood that Quantum Net instals the necessary software on the user's PC. Is this still the case, and do Gamtel do this too? Any information, views or personal experiences will be most welcome. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:54:31 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Clarifications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gambia-L: The e-mail below, is a clarification from Brother Tijan Jobarteh, in connection with the article on/about him by Charisse, and which article I forwarded to the L, the other day, from "The Black World Today" Web Page. Regards, Ebrima >From: "Tijan Jobarteh" <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Clarifications >Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:50:15 -0000 > >Ebrima, > >I tried to post this to the L but couldn't. Could you please forward it? > >Of course, I'm misquoted. Charisse seems to have been mostly interested in >writing a fictional piece, only using facts from an interview I granted >with much intention to expose the Dumo case at that time. I saw the article >for the first time yesterday, by way of a forward. > >Some clarifications: > >1. I went home in 1994 after 10 years in the states. > >2. My programming job was not the reason why I was suspended. As you know, >I was also responsible for operations at the inception of the TV. GAMTEL's >reason was GRTS's failure to cover the laying of the foundation stone of >the WAII in 1997 by the then vice chairman of AFPRC. In the interview, of >course I listed some of the documentaries aired, but this has no bearing on >how the quotations spelled it out in Charisse's article. For example, the >part about me wanting to change the format "from mainly soccer games and >local soap operas" is purely a distortion of what we were talking about. > >3. I'm a member of Boka Loho Organisation and not "the main coordinator". >The Boka Loho Multi-purpose centre is still functional by the way. > >4. As all will know, it was 4 presidential candidates and not "20" as >stated. > >I'll take up these issues with Charisse, and also with the editor of The >Black World Today. > >Tijan > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 01:52:53 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: EB <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: ISDP's in The Gambia MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James, I would suggest that with Reliability, Gamtel should be okay. My reasons: Gamtel, as I remembered, was the only Telecommunications Industry in the Gambia, and that with there fibre optic installations around the country should be able to keep up with the Internet Service. You might pay more but you should get better service. With regards to Software Installation, all you do is go to your ISP(Internet Service Provider)'s web site, look for upgrade(update) and download them. Sometimes, they provide version of installations. I hope these will help. EB. MCP, A+ ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Jatta" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 1:21 PM Subject: ISDP's in The Gambia > A friend who lives in The Gambia is trying to select an ISP. I gather > there are only two: Gamtel and Quantum Net. > > Does anyone have any views as to which is the most reliable? Are the > subscriptions for each similar? I understood that Quantum Net instals the > necessary software on the user's PC. Is this still the case, and do Gamtel > do this too? > > Any information, views or personal experiences will be most welcome. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:41:34 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: OBITUAARY ANNOUNCEMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Forster, Fye, Joof, Ndow, Njie, Goddard and the entire extended families regret to announce the death of Professor Geran Wal Njame Joof or Tom Forster . For those of us who remembered him, he was betrayed by his teacher colleagues at Gambia High School as a result of which he abandon the ship for greener pasture abroad. He worked a number of years with the E.C.A in Addis before taking up a professorship job in Nigeria until his retirement 2- 3 years ago before returning home. He was a brilliant scholar who had many friends and admires. Our condolence to the entire families. May his soul rest in perfect peace. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:47:44 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD: "Armed groups" fight in Guinea-Bissau capital : witness Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed DAKAR, Nov 23 (AFP) - Unidentified armed groups fought Thursday in Guinea-Bissau's capital Bissau, where gunfire broke out and residents began to flee amid a power struggle between troops and politicians, witnesses said. "It seems like armed gangs are chasing each other across town," a diplomat speaking to AFP in Dakar said by telephone. "A lot of people have already fled, there are certainly going to be masses" on the roads leading inland. Sporadic gunfire was first heard late on Wednesday night as troops loyal to former junta leader General Ansumane Mane held top army officers under house arrest and reportedly tried to disarm some of President Kumba Yala's military guards. In the early hours, light automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades were being used in several parts of the west African city, witnesses said. Shellfire could also be heard from the direction of the airport, according to unconfirmed reports. Mane on Monday declared himself army chief-of-staff and "sacked" several officers appointed by the head of state. On Wednesday, he made a series of military appointments himself. Yala, who took office heading an elected civilian government in February when Mane's junta stepped down, had been attending a meeting at the offices of the United Nations in Bissau in the evening, several sources said. According to unconfirmed reports, one of the officers placed under house arrest on Mane's orders escaped his guards and an exchange of fire followed in the night. This caused panic and the start of an exodus of civilians from the tropical coastal city, which was battered by artillery fire between June 1998 and May 1999 during a showdown between Mane and former president Joao Bernardo Vieira, who was ousted by the general. Mane, who has defied both the president and a call from the United Nations to stay out of politics, said in a statement Wednesday that he had no intention of "intervening in matters of civilian authority" but was taking action to "restore serenity in the ranks of the military". at-pvr/nb _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:54:33 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD : Sierra Leone ex-junta chief, Strasser, arrested in Gambia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed BANJUL, Nov 22 (AFP) - Gambian soldiers have arrested Sierra Leonean former military ruler Valentine Strasser and handed him over to intelligence agents for questioning, a military source said Wednesday. An army patrol picked up Strasser last week between Tallingding and Latri Kunda, about 20 kilometres (12 miles) from Banjul, and held him at a military base before turning him in to the National Intelligence Agency (NIA). The soldiers found him carrying "operational" documents giving "strategic" site descriptions, the source said. He was still being held by the NIA on Wednesday. However, it was unclear whether the documents referred to Sierra Leone, where Strasser seized power in April 1992 and was ousted in 1996, or to Gambia, an enclave along the Gambia river between northern and southern Senegal. The Gambian government on November 2 deported Strasser back to London, where he had been living in exile, shortly after he entered the small west African country without notifing the authorities. The ex-army captain returned to Gambia about a week later, whereupon the Sierra Leonean ambassador in Banjul said he would vouch for him. When President Yahya Jammeh's government first sent Strasser back to London, it stated that it did not wish Gambia "to be seen as a refuge for those who have committed crimes against humanity and are wanted in their own country." Human rights organisation Amnesty International has urged Britain to put Strasser on trial for murder and torture carried out by his regime. Strasser was sent to Britain in 1997 as part of a deal brokered by United Nations peacekeepers. dh-at/nb/kc _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 07:53:07 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Fatou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUAARY ANNOUNCEMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My deepest condolenses to all involved.May his soul rest in eternal peace Fatou Mbasu Nyang -----Original Message----- From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 3:42 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: OBITUAARY ANNOUNCEMENT The Forster, Fye, Joof, Ndow, Njie, Goddard and the entire extended families regret to announce the death of Professor Geran Wal Njame Joof or Tom Forster . For those of us who remembered him, he was betrayed by his teacher colleagues at Gambia High School as a result of which he abandon the ship for greener pasture abroad. He worked a number of years with the E.C.A in Addis before taking up a professorship job in Nigeria until his retirement 2- 3 years ago before returning home. He was a brilliant scholar who had many friends and admires. Our condolence to the entire families. May his soul rest in perfect peace. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:21:56 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebou Khan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUAARY ANNOUNCEMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My most felt and sorrowful condolences to all the family. He was a great Big Brother to Samba Jack, Crispin and myself. We will dearly miss Dr. Joof. May the Almighty be kind to him as he was to us. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: OBITUAARY ANNOUNCEMENT Author: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> at Internet Date: 11/23/00 8:41 AM The Forster, Fye, Joof, Ndow, Njie, Goddard and the entire extended families regret to announce the death of Professor Geran Wal Njame Joof or Tom Forster . For those of us who remembered him, he was betrayed by his teacher colleagues at Gambia High School as a result of which he abandon the ship for greener pasture abroad. He worked a number of years with the E.C.A in Addis before taking up a professorship job in Nigeria until his retirement 2- 3 years ago before returning home. He was a brilliant scholar who had many friends and admires. Our condolence to the entire families. May his soul rest in perfect peace. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] U if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your fullname and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 14:12:48 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: awa joeque <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUAARY ANNOUNCEMENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed My deepest condolences goes to all his family especially his nieces and nephews: Yodou Cole, Ecco John, Ellen Njie, Betty Sarr..... Tom was a very kind man - he was one of my guardians when I was studying in Freetown. My his soul rest in perfect peace. >From: Ebou Khan <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: OBITUAARY ANNOUNCEMENT >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:21:56 -0500 > > My most felt and sorrowful condolences to all the family. He was a > great Big Brother to Samba Jack, Crispin and myself. We will dearly > miss Dr. Joof. May the Almighty be kind to him as he was to us. > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: OBITUAARY ANNOUNCEMENT >Author: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> at Internet >Date: 11/23/00 8:41 AM > > >The Forster, Fye, Joof, Ndow, Njie, Goddard and the entire extended >families regret to announce the death of Professor Geran Wal Njame Joof >or Tom Forster . For those of us who remembered him, he was betrayed by >his teacher colleagues at Gambia High School as a result of which he >abandon the ship for greener pasture abroad. He worked a number of years >with the E.C.A in Addis before taking up a professorship job in Nigeria >until his retirement 2- 3 years ago before returning home. He was a >brilliant scholar who had many friends and admires. Our condolence to >the entire families. May his soul rest in perfect peace. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >U >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >fullname and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 16:15:46 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Yahya Jammeh to Baba Jobe : Either Qatar or Jail - Take your pick Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gambia-L: The unedited e-mail below came from a source in the Gambia. Regards, Ebrima _____________________________________________________________________ >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Yahya Jammeh to Baba Jobe : Either Qatar or Jail - Take your pick >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 > >Ebrima, >As Election 2001 draws near, there are threats and counter threats coming >from the Yahya Jammeh camp. It was reported here a month ago that Baba >Jobe will resist going to Qatar because he feels being sidelined by Yahya >because of the irreparable damage done by this semi-illeterate Assistant >Secretary at the Office of the President. His misdeeds are so numerous that >it would be worthless to catalogue here. But, as you know Baba was >involved in the murder of numerous Gambians over the years that the whole >thing has become unbearable for even the chief Butcher and would therefore >serve his purpose to send Baba off to the wild yonder of the Arab world. >Since the announcement of his posting to Qatar, Baba has been sending >delegation to Yahya to plead on his behalf to stay in Banjul so that he can >continue to sieze private property, piston-whip guards at the Banjul >International airport security zones, appoint and dismiss civil servants; >in short to act as Co-President of The Republic. Yahya would not have any >of that according to his close adviser if he has any chance of a decent >showing at the next elections. One of those who went to plead on Baba's >behalf revealed to me that Yahya's response to him was "Baba Jobe either >goes to Qatar or I will send him to jail-let him take his pick." > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Ebrima __________________________________________________________________ >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Another dismal trade season for the Gambian farmer >Date: Thu, 23 Nov > >Ebrima, >I am back. For the benefit of the rest, I have been away on official duties >that is the reason for the long silence. Well, when I returned, I learnt >that Yahya Jammeh and his rogue government have been trying to hoodwink >ALIMENTA, the European Union and especially the Gambian farmers by trying >to form yet another company to act as a front for Yaya, Amadou Samba and >Tarik Musa. The sole purpose of this ploy is to gain complete monolopy over >the purchase of ground nuts this season. Well, the European Union, >Alimenta and the farmers are no fools. They have done their homework and >discovered that the dummy company, which is interestingly based in Atlanta, >is not only a one-man operation but it is headed by a British national. >Maybe the Software engineer at United Airlines who has been dormant for a >very long time may have a reason for being off the list. Those of you in >the Atlanta area should get up and do your own investigations into this >funny company whose registered name in the Gambia is HAILO. The local agent >for these unsavory characters in the persons of Amadou samba, Tarik Musa, >Software Engineer and the Butcher of Kanilai is none other than the former >Manager of the defunct Gambia Cooperative Union Modou Dibba. These people >have claimed exclusive use of the Denton Bridge mill so that they can >prevent other prospective buyers of this year's groundnut crop from using >the facility which means total exclusion. These people are still not >satisfied with the amount of money they have stolen from the Gambian >population; they are still looking for more money to steal. They are a >disgraceful bunch of shameless crooks. They must and will be stopped. >Otherwise, there will be no trade season this year as well, making it three >years in a row that this incompetent, corrupt and immoral government is >unable to handle the buying season. The EU is insisting that the buying >operations should be free, open and competetive with all those with the >facility and ability to participate to do so. No funds will be released by >the donors to help with the settlement of the Alimenta case which Alimenta >have won-hands down. > >The reason why Yahya promised the farmers that the trade season will start >on the 15th November was because he thought that by then the European Union >would have given them the green light but this did not materialise because >of the discovery of these dummy companies. Yahya also promised to announce >the price of groundnuts around the 12th November which also did not >materialise because he was warned that should he do so without first and >foremost guaranteeing full access to other potential buyers, those who are >prepared to finance the crop purchase will pull out leaving the Gambia high >and dry. In fact, we are very close to this becoming reality because of >the dictatorial tendency of Yahya Jammeh. He will tell Gambians before long >whether he owns Gambia or Gambia belongs to her true sons and daughters. >We are fed-up with this goon treating Gambia as his personal property. >Stay tuned for further developments. We will know before long whether he >intends to comply or not with the conditions layed out for him and his >cronies. Ebrima, it is nice to be back. I wish to assure you that we have >not let up one bit. We must see the back of Yahya Jammeh as we have see >that of his hand-picked candidate for the chieftaincy of Sami-Kebba Fanta >Komma. LONG LIVE YAHYALESS GAMBIA > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 16:40:42 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: awa joeque <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FWD : Sierra Leone ex-junta chief, Strasser, arrested in Gambia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed 'Making Strasser a target is a thinly veiled attempt by Jammeh to show the world that he does not keep company with evil people' Yayah Jammeh should be very careful because what goes around comes around. >From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: FWD : Sierra Leone ex-junta chief, Strasser, arrested in Gambia >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:54:33 -0000 > > BANJUL, Nov 22 (AFP) - Gambian soldiers have arrested Sierra Leonean >former >military ruler Valentine Strasser and handed him over to intelligence >agents >for questioning, a military source said Wednesday. > An army patrol picked up Strasser last week between Tallingding and >Latri >Kunda, about 20 kilometres (12 miles) from Banjul, and held him at a >military >base before turning him in to the National Intelligence Agency (NIA). > The soldiers found him carrying "operational" documents giving >"strategic" >site descriptions, the source said. He was still being held by the NIA on >Wednesday. > However, it was unclear whether the documents referred to Sierra Leone, >where Strasser seized power in April 1992 and was ousted in 1996, or to >Gambia, an enclave along the Gambia river between northern and southern >Senegal. > The Gambian government on November 2 deported Strasser back to London, >where he had been living in exile, shortly after he entered the small west >African country without notifing the authorities. > The ex-army captain returned to Gambia about a week later, whereupon the >Sierra Leonean ambassador in Banjul said he would vouch for him. > When President Yahya Jammeh's government first sent Strasser back to >London, it stated that it did not wish Gambia "to be seen as a refuge for >those who have committed crimes against humanity and are wanted in their >own >country." > Human rights organisation Amnesty International has urged Britain to put >Strasser on trial for murder and torture carried out by his regime. > Strasser was sent to Britain in 1997 as part of a deal brokered by >United >Nations peacekeepers. > dh-at/nb/kc > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:50:13 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: The Violence in Bissau MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amsumana Mane is at it again with his now familiar tactic of unleashing violence the brunt of which is borne by the defenseless civilians of his adopted country to achieve his own selfish aims. When the dust settled on the tragic civil war that engulfed Bissau a short while ago, the people chased their leader and with it the kind of government and future they desired. During the transition Ansumana and his allies within the armed forces unsuccessfully tried to pressure the elected President to carve out a political and administrative role for them in the government. Their objective was simply to present the people of Bissau and the world a titular head of state while Mane and his gang effectively pulled the strings and had ultimate power to run the country in illicit and undemocratic ways. President Yalla justifiably balked at any such arrangements and insisted that the army return to it's constitutionally prescribed role and be subject to civilian control. This is how stable countries large and small maintain the peace within their borders and avoid civil strife. Under strong regional and international pressure Mane and his gang pretended to shelve their designs but did their best to ensure that the elected President did not assert full control over the army. The first manifestation of their insorbodination surfaced when the President shortly after assuming office ordered the head of the navy fired for releasing a foreign vessel that was under judicial sanction. In blatant defiance, the officer declared that he couldn't be fired by the President and was going to wait for Ansumana Mane to return from an overseas trip! The current spate of violence is rooted in that same festering problem of rogues entrenched in the armed forces and intent on having their way. Ansumana who atleast in theory holds no formal position in the armed forces of guinea Bissau all of a sudden restarts an open rebellion by declaring the Presidents moves to appoint officers in the army to be null and void. Why you ask? Well Ansumana said flatly that the President does not have the experience to determine the leadership of an army in a country whose citizens have elected him. Preposterous as it is, that is the reasoning of a man who will destroy an entire country if that is what it would take to perpetuate him. He has since declared himself army chief-of-staff and promptly arrested the senior officers allied to the government. As of this writing wire services are reporting that intermittent battles have ensued and the forces loyal to the government seemed to have control of most of the country and Ansumana and his gang have retreated to an airbase outside of the city of Bissau . It is not immediately clear if Mane and his gang have the strength of numbers and materiel to dig in for a protracted fight. Already the United nations and ecowas have gone on record blaming Amsumana for the crisis and have said they would hold him responsible for any eventuality. As things stand now, there are two possible outcomes as far as I can see. International and regional envoys would trek in to Bissau in an attempt to avert further violence and all the human suffering associated with civil strife especially if the divided army results in a defacto balance in power. In this scenario, they would attempt to work out a truce of some sort and look for a compromise formular that would attempt to paper over the deep divisions in the armed forces. While this may avoid a further loss of life, it would almost certainly show the seeds of further instability because attempting to patch a highly fractured army with diametrically opposing agendas is like trying to put humpty dumpty together after the great fall. It cannot be done. A legitimate standing army in a democracy has to have a unified command structure and be subject to the authority of the civilian leadership. What you would have with an arranged deal with Ansumana Mane would be two opposing armed militias looking for opportunities to vanquish the other. This would be an unsustainable albatross hanging on the neck of the people and nation of Guinea Bissau. Alternatively, the government of President Yalla may yet prevail and defeat Ansumana and his gang which might bode well for the government and people in the long run. To be sure such a strategy is fraught with dangers in that if Ansumana knows that he is loosing a conventional battle with government troops, he may retreat into the bush and resort to guerilla warfare essentially making the situation unwinable and protracted. He would have plenty of support from his erstwhile allies embroiled in the Cassamance conflict on the southern border together with criminal syndicates marauding the borders in that area. That in turn might trigger a regional conflagration. So either way you look at the conclusion is grim. Ansumana Mane is a dangerous man who poses a significant threat to the people of Guinea Bissau for as long as he lives. He does not have a national constituency to make him the undisputed choice of the people of Guinea Bissau. On the other hand he has sufficient sway within the armed forces to make him a lethal figure in that long suffering nation's overall efforts towards democratization and emerging out of civil strife.He is the ultimate embodiment of all that is wrong with Africa and the African.He is selfish, brutal and has no regard for the effects of his ways on the vast majority of the people who have neither the means nor the ability to stop him and his evil machinations. Somehow it has be him or no one else in Guinea Bissau. My heart aches for my brethren there. We in Gambia are also contending with a milder version of Ansumana. The only difference is we would succeed in defeating our tyrant perhaps with less prospects for bloodshed. Karamba ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:12:31 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUAARY ANNOUNCEMENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sheihk Tijan: I am so saddened to have learnt of the passing away of Professor Joof. I myself did not know Prof Joof, but his bright Sierra Leonean wife, Professor Amy Joof of Fourah Bay College, has just spent a month here, as a visiting professor, at the Centre of West African Studies, where I met her; and being West Africans, naturally, we developed a very good working relationship. She also became a mother figure to me, giving me advice and direction when appropriate. I hereby extend my deepest condolences to my mother, Prof Amy Joof, and the rest of the bereaved family, on this sad loss. May his soul rest in peace. Ebrima Ceesay, Birmingham, UK >From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: OBITUAARY ANNOUNCEMENT >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 08:41:34 +0000 > >The Forster, Fye, Joof, Ndow, Njie, Goddard and the entire extended >families regret to announce the death of Professor Geran Wal Njame Joof >or Tom Forster . For those of us who remembered him, he was betrayed by >his teacher colleagues at Gambia High School as a result of which he >abandon the ship for greener pasture abroad. He worked a number of years >with the E.C.A in Addis before taking up a professorship job in Nigeria >until his retirement 2- 3 years ago before returning home. He was a >brilliant scholar who had many friends and admires. Our condolence to >the entire families. May his soul rest in perfect peace. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Bojang" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD: MEANING AND BLESSING OF FASTING Comments: To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ramadan greetings to everyone in advance. May Allah (SWT) make it easy for all of us, and may He accept our fasting and forgive us for our sins (ameen). Below is a pretty lenghty reading, but I think it will surely worth your time. God Bless! Pa Mambuna PROPHET SAYS: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Allah the Almighty has said: O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with sins nearly as great as the earth and were you then to face Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you forgiveness nearly as great as it." (Tirmidhi) MEANING AND BLESSING OF FASTING The second act of worship that Allah enjoins upon Muslims is Sawm or fasting. It means abstaining from dawn to sunset from eating, drinking and sex. Like Prayer, this act of worship has been part of the teachings of all the Messengers. Their followers fasted as we do. However, the rules, the number of days, and the periods prescribed for Fasting have varied from one Shariah (the revealed, or canonical, law of Islam) to another. Today, although Fasting remains a part of most religions in some form or other, people have often changed its original form by accretions of their own. O Believers! Fasting is ordained for you, even as it was ordained for those before you." (The Qur'an 2:183). Why has this particular act of worship been practiced in all eras? Life Of Worship Islam aims to transform the whole life of man into a life of worship. He is born a slave; and to serve his Creator is his very nature. Not for a single moment should he live without worshipping, that is surrendering to Him in thoughts and deeds. He must remain conscious of what he ought to do to earn the pleasure of Allah (SWT) and what he ought to avoid. He should then walk on the path leading to Allah's pleasure, eschew that leading to His displeasure just as he would avoid the embers of a fire. Only when our entire lives have become modeled on this pattern can we be considered to have worshipped our Master as is His due and as having fulfilled the purport of "I have not created jinn and men except for My lbadah (complete submission and obedience). Rituals Lead To Worship The real purpose of ritual acts of worship - Salah, Zakah, Sawm and Hajj - is to help us to come to that life of total worship. Never think that you can acquit yourselves of what you owe to Allah only if you bow and prostrate yourselves five times a day, suffer hunger and thirst from dawn to sunset for thirty days in Ramadan and, if wealthy, give alms and perform the Pilgrimage once in a lifetime. Doing all this does not release you from the bondage to Him, nor make you free to do whatever you like. Rather, one of the underlying purposes of enjoining these rituals upon you is to develop you so that you can transform your whole lives into the lbadah of Allah. The Private Worship All acts of worship include some outward physical movement, but not Fasting. In Prayer you stand, sit, bow down and prostrate yourselves; all these acts are visible to everybody. In Hajj you undertake a long journey and travel with thousands of people. Zakah, too, is known to at least two persons, the giver and the receiver. None of these acts can remain concealed; if you perform them, other people will come to know about them. But Fasting is a form of lbadah which is entirely private. The all-knowing Allah alone knows that His servant is Fasting. You are required to take food before dawn (Suhur) and abstain from eating and drinking anything till the time to break the Fast (Iftar). But, if you secretly eat and drink in between, nobody except Allah will know about it. Sure Sign Of Faith The private nature of Fasting ensures that you have strong faith in Allah as the One who knows everything. Only if your faith is true and strong, will you not dream of eating or drinking secretly: even in the hottest summer, when your throats dry up with thirst, you will not drink a drop of water; even when you feel faint with hunger, when life itself seems to be ebbing, you will not eat anything. To do all this, see what firm conviction you must have that nothing whatsoever can ever be concealed from Allah! How strong must be His fear and love in your hearts. You will keep your Fast for about 360 hours for one full month only because of your profound belief in the reward and punishment of the Hereafter. Had you the slightest doubt that you have to meet your Maker, you would not complete such a Fast. With doubts in the hearts, no such resolves can be fulfilled Month-long Training In this way does Allah put to the test a Muslim's faith for a full month every year. To the extent you emerge successful from this trial, your faith becomes firmer and deeper. The Fasting is both a trial and a training. If you deposit anything on trust with somebody, you are, as it were, testing his integrity. If he does not abuse your trust, he not only passes his test, but at the same time, also develops greater strength to bear the burden of greater trusts in the future. Similarly, Allah puts your faith to a severe test continuously for one month, many long hours a day. If you emerge triumphant from this test, more strength develops in you to refrain from other sins. This is what the Qur'an says: "O Believers! Fasting is ordained for you, even as it was ordained to those before you, that you might attain to Allah-consciousness." (The Qur'an 2:183). Practicing Obedience The Fasting has another characteristic. It makes us obey the injunctions of the Shariah with sustained intensity for prolonged periods of time. Salah lasts only a few minutes at a time. Zakah is paid only once a year. Although the time spent on Hajj is long, it may come only once in a lifetime. In the school of Fasting, you are trained to obey the Shariah of Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him), for one full month, every year, day and night. You have to get up early before dawn for Suhur, stop all eating and drinking precisely at a certain time, do certain activities and abstain from certain activities during the day, break your Fast (Iftar) in the evening at exactly a certain time. Then, for a few moments only you relax, before you hurry for long late evening prayers (Tarawih). Every year, for one full month from dawn to dusk and from dusk to dawn, you, like a soldier in an army, continuously live a disciplined life.You are then sent back to continue your normal duties for eleven months so that the training you have received for one month may be reflected in your conduct, and if any deficiency is found it may be made up the next year. Communal Fasting Training of such profound nature cannot be imparted to each individual separately. In just the way an army is trained, everyone has to act at the same time at the sound of the bugle so that they may develop team spirit, learn to act in unison, and assist each other in their task of development. The month of Ramadan is earmarked for all Muslims to fast together, to ensure similar results. This measure turns individual Ibadah into collective lbadah. Just as the number one, when multiplied by thousands, becomes a formidable number, so the moral and spiritual benefits accruing from the Fasting by one person alone are increased a millionfold if a million people fast together. The month of Ramadan suffuses the whole environment with a spirit of righteousness, virtue and piety. As flowers blossom in spring, so does Taqwa (fear and love of Allah) in Ramadan. Everyone tries extra hard to avoid sin and, if they lapse, they know they can count on the help of many brothers and sisters who are Fasting with them. The desire automatically arises in every heart to do good works, to feed the poor, to clothe the naked, to help those in distress, to participate in any good work being done anywhere, and to prevent evil. For this reason the Messenger (pbuh) said: "Every good deed of a man is granted manifold increase, ten to seven hundred times. But says Allah: 'Fasting is an exception; it is exclusively for Me, and I reward for it as much as I wish.' " (Bukhari, Muslim). All good deeds grow, then, in proportion to both the intention of the doer as well as their results, but that there is a limit to their growth. Fasting, however, has no such limit. In Ramadan, in the season for the flourishing of good and piety, not one but millions of people jointly water this garden of virtue. The more you sincerely perform good deeds in this month and the greater you avail yourselves of its blessings, the more you sustain the impact of fasting on your life during the subsequent eleven months, the more will our garden flourish, and flourish without limit. Should its growth become inhibited, the fault must lie with you. Where Are The Results? After snapping the vital links between various parts of Islam and injecting into it many new things, we cannot expect the same results as from the whole. A second reason is that we have practically changed the meaning of lbadah. Many of us believe that mere abstention from food and drink, from morning till evening, amounts to lbadah; once you do all these things you have worshipped Allah. A greater majority of the Muslims is unmindful of the real spirit of Ibadah which should permeate all our actions. That is why the acts of Ibadah do not produce their full benefit. For everything in Islam depends on intention and understanding. The True Spirit Of Fasting Essentially every work which we do has two components. The first is its purpose and spirit; the second, the particular form which is chosen to achieve that purpose. Take the case of food. Our main purpose in eating is to stay alive and maintain our strength. The method of achieving this object is that we take a piece of food, put it in our mouth, chew it and swallow it. This method is adopted since it is the most effective and appropriate one to achieve our purpose. But everyone knows that the main thing is the purpose for which food is taken and not the form, the act of eating takes. How would we react if someone tried to eat a piece of sawdust or cinder or mud? You would say that he was mad or ill. That he would not have understood the real purpose of eating and would have erroneously believed that chewing and swallowing constituted eating. Likewise, we would also call someone mad who thrust his fingers down his throat to vomit up the food he had just eaten and then complained that the benefits said to accrue from taking the food were not being realized. Rather, on the contrary, he was getting thinner day by day. This person blames the food for a situation that is due to his own stupidity. Thus the purpose of eating cannot be achieved by merely fulfilling these outward actions. Outward Replaces Real Perhaps we can now understand why our lbadah has become ineffectual and empty. The greatest mistake of all is to take the acts of Prayer and Fasting and their outward shape as the real Ibadah. Otherwise, how can we explain, that a person who is Fasting, and is thus engaged in the lbadah of Allah from morning till evening, in the midst of that lbadah, tells a lie or slanders someone? Why does he quarrel on the slightest pretext and abuse those he is quarreling with? How dare he encroach on other people's rights? And how can he claim, having done all these things, that he has still performed the lbadah of Allah? Does this not resemble the actions of that person who eats cinders and mud and thinks that by merely completing the four requirements of eating he has actually done the job of eating? How, too, can we claim to have worshipped Allah for many long hours throughout Ramadan when the impact of this whole exercise in spiritual and moral upliftment vanishes on the first day of the next month? During the Id days we do all that pagans do in their festivals, so much so that in some places we even turn to adultery, drinking and gambling. And I have seen some degenerates who Fast during the day and drink alcohol and commit adultery at night. Most Muslims, Alhamdulillah, have not fallen so low. But how many of us still retain any trace of piety and virtue by the second day of Id? The Perspective This form has been prescribed to create in us such fear of Allah and love, such strength of will and character, that, even against our desire, we avoid seemingly profitable things which in fact displease Allah and do those things which possibly entail risks and losses but definitely please Allah. This strength can be developed only when we understand the purpose of Fasting and desire to put to use the training we have undergone of curbing our physical desires for the fear and love of Allah only. Just as the physical strength cannot be obtained from bread until it is digested, transformed into blood, which spreads through every vein, so spiritual strength cannot be obtained from Fasting until the person who keeps the Fast is conscious of its purpose and allows it to permeate his heart and mind and dominate his thoughts, motives and deeds. Fasting As A Way To Piety This is why Allah, after ordaining fasting, has said that Fasting is made obligatory on you, so that you may attain to Allah-consciousness. Note that there is no guarantee that you will definitely become Allah-conscious and righteous. Only someone who recognizes the purpose of Fasting and strives to achieve it will receive its blessings; someone who does not, cannot hope to gain anything from it. Conditions Of Fasting The Messenger (pbuh) has said: "If one does not give up speaking falsehood and acting by it, Allah does not require him to give up eating and drinking." (Bukhari). On another occasion, he said: "Many are the people who Fast but who gain nothing from their Fast except hunger and thirst; and many are those who stand praying all night but gain nothing except sleeplessness." (Darimi). Faith And Self-Scrutiny The Messenger (pbuh) draws attention toanother aim of Fasting thus: "Whoever observes the Fast, believing and counting, has all his past sins forgiven." (Bukhari, Muslim). Believing means that faith in Allah should remain alive in the consciousness of a Muslim. Counting means that you should seek only Allah's pleasure, constantly watching over your thoughts and actions to make sure you are doing nothing contrary to His pleasure, and trusting and expecting the rewards promised by Allah and the Messenger. Observing these two principles brings the rich reward of all our past sins being forgiven. The reason is obvious: even if we were disobedient, we will have now turned, fully repentant, to our Master--and "a penitent is like one who has, as it were, never committed a sin at all" as said the Messenger (pbuh). Shield Against Sins The Messenger (pbuh) said: "The Fast is like a shield [for protection from Satan's attack]. Therefore when one observes the Fast he should [use this shield and] abstain from quarreling. If anybody quarrels with him, he should simply say: 'Brother/Sister, I am fasting.'" (Bukhari, Muslim). Hunger for Goodness The Messenger (pbuh) once directed that a man, while Fasting, ought to do more good works than usual and ardently desire to perform acts of kindness. Compassion and sympathy for his brothers should intensify in his heart because, being himself in the throes of hunger and thirst, he will all the more be able to realize the misery of other servants of Allah who are destitute. "In Ramadan, whoever provides food to a person who is Fasting to break that Fast will earn forgiveness for his sins, deliverance from the Fire and as much reward as the one who is Fasting, without any reduction in the recompense of the latter." (Baihaqi). Abdullah Ibn Abbas said the Messenger (pbuh) used to become unusually kind and generous during Ramadan. No beggar in that period went empty-handed from his door, and as many slaves as possible were set free. (Baihaqi). By S. A. Mawdudi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:02:01 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUAARY ANNOUNCEMENT I join all those who grieve the death of Prof. Joof. He was my teacher at the Gambia High School and a very dedicated one at that, together with the late John W. Kuye and the late Ambassador Omadi Diarra. My condolences to the Forsters, Njies, Ndows and the extended family. My Prof. Joof's soul rest in perfect peace. Sidi Sanneh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 21:00:36 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dave Manneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [Fwd: NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope itz taken in the spirit itz written in. Just a Light-hearted joke!! Thanx Michelle Parker -------- Original Message -------- Subject: NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:08:08 -0000 Resent-From: "JACKIE SNOOK" <[log in to unmask]> Resent-To: [log in to unmask] Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 17:50:34 -0500 From: Tim Snook <[log in to unmask]> To: Jacqueline <[log in to unmask]>,ANTHONY BULL <[log in to unmask]>,Hilary Anderson <[log in to unmask]>,"Dave Burke" <[log in to unmask]>,Steve Tubb <[log in to unmask]>,"Accounting" <[log in to unmask]> -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: "Simon J.Upton", INTERNET:[log in to unmask] To: , INTERNET:[log in to unmask] , INTERNET:[log in to unmask] , INTERNET:[log in to unmask] , INTERNET:[log in to unmask] , tim_snook Date: 16/11/100 04:37 PM RE: NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE To the citizens of the United States of America, In the light of your failure to elect a President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchial duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. Except Utah, which she does not fancy. Your new prime minister (The rt. hon. Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect: 1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed". 2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. 3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. 4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. 5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through. 6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005. 7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 98.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "shit". 8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 8th will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day". 9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. 10. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving s crazy. Thank you for your cooperation. Simon J. Upton http://www.sjupton.com _________________________________ ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: [log in to unmask] Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (c004-h023.c004.sfo.cp.net [209.228.13.40]) by spdmgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) with SMTP id XAA18553 for <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (cpmta 3943 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2000 20:37:11 -0800 Date: 15 Nov 2000 20:37:11 -0800 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> X-Sent: 16 Nov 2000 04:37:11 GMT Received: from [198.240.130.75] by mail.sjupton.com with HTTP; 15 Nov 2000 20:37:11 PST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] From: "Simon J.Upton" <[log in to unmask]> X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.6 Subject: NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 22:06:39 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Hamad S. Sallah" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FWD: "Armed groups" fight in Guinea-Bissau capital : witness Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed It has always been said that the problem of the politics of Africa is the problem of the military in her political genre. We are all witnessed to the crude and rude way in which the top military brass in a given country in Africa, has at one time or the other confuse their ability to command the support of their subordinates with the politics of the day. The events unfolding in our sister country of Guinea Bissau, engineered by our own compatriot, the General Mane, is no surprise to me, considering the fact he has always assumed or rather imprinted the posture of the all-powerful and indispensable military guy in the psyche of the innocent people of Guinea Bissau. He had made it abundantly clear and clean at the time of the truce and eventual kick-start of the recent democratisation process of Bissau, that his council or culb of military bandits will not inch away(not for a single second) from their self-appointed position of being the defenders of the so-called rights and aspirations of the people of Bissau. It therefore goes without saying, that what has been reported to have taken place in Bissau in the past few days are just an addition to what has already been common knowledge to all and sundry. The General will spare no efforts, whatsoever, to maintain his glamour in the ranks and files of the Guinean military and no doubt could once again shoot his way back to the mantle of state authority. The likes of General Mane have no iota of respect for the fineries of democracy and rule of law. They make the likes of Thomas Jefferson, the admirable American Statesman shiver/tremble in their graves. Like all African dictators of military origin, they cannot hide their true feelings for long. To them might is always right. Take for example his assertion that he has no intention to "intervene in matters of civilian authority" when in actual fact, he has so done in the name of wanting "to restore serenity in the ranks of the military" this is uttered nonsense, typical of the likes of the General. As we look forward to getting more details on the almost seemingly nasty drama of events playing out in Guinea Bissau, one thing which stand out clear and tall is the desire of our brothers and sisters in the military to reduce the democratic aspirations of our people to naught and their ever-growing passion to draw Africa to the backwaters of the stone age and uttered lack of civility. While we sympathise with the people of Guinea Bissau in this moment of grave military-engineered-chaotic-madness, we pray to God, the Almighty and the most Compassionately merciful, to avert the situation in the name of all His beautiful and bountiful names and also to arrest and subdue with the speed of light the so-called powers of all dictators whatever the color of their systems of government, Amen . lONG LIVE THE ASPIRATIONS OF THE PEOPLE FOR JUST GOVERNMENT ! JARAMA ! SALLAH >From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: FWD: "Armed groups" fight in Guinea-Bissau capital : witness >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:47:44 -0000 > > DAKAR, Nov 23 (AFP) - Unidentified armed groups fought Thursday in >Guinea-Bissau's capital Bissau, where gunfire broke out and residents began >to >flee amid a power struggle between troops and politicians, witnesses said. > "It seems like armed gangs are chasing each other across town," a >diplomat >speaking to AFP in Dakar said by telephone. "A lot of people have already >fled, there are certainly going to be masses" on the roads leading inland. > Sporadic gunfire was first heard late on Wednesday night as troops loyal >to >former junta leader General Ansumane Mane held top army officers under >house >arrest and reportedly tried to disarm some of President Kumba Yala's >military >guards. > In the early hours, light automatic weapons and rocket-propelled >grenades >were being used in several parts of the west African city, witnesses said. >Shellfire could also be heard from the direction of the airport, according >to >unconfirmed reports. > Mane on Monday declared himself army chief-of-staff and "sacked" several >officers appointed by the head of state. On Wednesday, he made a series of >military appointments himself. > Yala, who took office heading an elected civilian government in February >when Mane's junta stepped down, had been attending a meeting at the offices >of >the United Nations in Bissau in the evening, several sources said. > According to unconfirmed reports, one of the officers placed under house >arrest on Mane's orders escaped his guards and an exchange of fire followed >in >the night. > This caused panic and the start of an exodus of civilians from the >tropical >coastal city, which was battered by artillery fire between June 1998 and >May >1999 during a showdown between Mane and former president Joao Bernardo >Vieira, >who was ousted by the general. > Mane, who has defied both the president and a call from the United >Nations >to stay out of politics, said in a statement Wednesday that he had no >intention of "intervening in matters of civilian authority" but was taking >action to "restore serenity in the ranks of the military". > at-pvr/nb >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:26:08 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Late Alh A.B.Njie Family, The Jobe and Sarr Family regret to announce the death of Aji Combeh Jobe Our condolence to Saul njie A.D.B, Jatou Merana, Pesseh Njie, Mam Fatou,Ous, Bin Sarr, Lamin, Ramsi and the rest of the extended family. Our dear mother will be missed by all those who knew her. May her soul rest in perfect peace. Chi Jamma, Bro Sheikh Tejan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:24:11 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Bamba Laye Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ebrima>>Re: Another dismal trade season for the Gambian farmer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Those of you in the Atlanta area should get up and do your own investigations into this funny company whose registered name in the Gambia is HAILO." Ebrima, I hope your sources will provide more information on this blood sucking outlet. If this "company" is legitimately registered in the U.S, all one needs is the name registered and the state in which it is registered. A few clicks or at worst one phone call and they will be exposed to the extent of the information given at time of registration. Looking forward to more info. Abdoulie A. Jallow Toll-free number: 1-888-392-4832(Excite2) Personal extension for v/mail/fax: 291-368-1519 _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA== ------=_NextPart_000_2bdb_6ab3_f5b-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 22:55:35 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: merieme faal <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed My sincerely condolences to my dear sister and friend Mam Fatou Njie and the extended family. Ya Combie was a wonderful mother and will be dearly be missed by all those who knew her. May her soul rest in perfect peace. >From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:26:08 +0000 > >The Late Alh A.B.Njie Family, The Jobe and Sarr Family regret to >announce the death of Aji Combeh Jobe Our condolence to Saul njie >A.D.B, Jatou Merana, Pesseh Njie, Mam Fatou,Ous, Bin Sarr, Lamin, Ramsi >and the rest of the extended family. Our dear mother will be missed by >all those who knew her. May her soul rest in perfect peace. > >Chi Jamma, >Bro Sheikh Tejan > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:21:18 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: merieme faal <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Guess Ya Combie's death took a toll out of me, My message should have read......My sincere ....... and will be dearly missed .............did't mean to hurt Churchill this bad!!!!!!! >From: merieme faal <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 22:55:35 -0500 > >My sincerely condolences to my dear sister and friend Mam Fatou Njie and >the >extended family. Ya Combie was a wonderful mother and will be dearly be >missed by all those who knew her. May her soul rest in perfect peace. > > >>From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT >>Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:26:08 +0000 >> >>The Late Alh A.B.Njie Family, The Jobe and Sarr Family regret to >>announce the death of Aji Combeh Jobe Our condolence to Saul njie >>A.D.B, Jatou Merana, Pesseh Njie, Mam Fatou,Ous, Bin Sarr, Lamin, Ramsi >>and the rest of the extended family. Our dear mother will be missed by >>all those who knew her. May her soul rest in perfect peace. >> >>Chi Jamma, >>Bro Sheikh Tejan >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >>Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>You may also send subscription requests to >>[log in to unmask] >>if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write >>your >>full name and e-mail address. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:44:15 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Movement for the Restoration of Democracy in Gambia <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Yahya Jammeh castigating Americans about USA's elections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sources reaching us, states that Yahya's daily mockery of the stalemate election..Gore/Bush and hypocrisy US leaders preaches and or enforces on African nation's electoral process, proves the naivete and lack of common sense Yahya suffers from. What he, Yahya, fails or selectively pretends to see [myopic] or forget [amnesia] is, if this scenario were to happen in any African nation, the military/mercenary dogs would have been celebrating with endless decrees, arbitrary arrest and detentions of civilians, soldier turn " Pachah-Boy" syndrome, etc. Take for instance, the recent AFPRC/APRC loss on the Sami elections, July 22nd hoodlums and National Ignoramus Agency thugs, with blessings and funding [alcohol, drugs and 'Attaya'] from Yahya and Babba Jobe, their barbarians are let loose to terrorize civilians, especially women and children, a tactic employed to scare the men into absolute sublimity...isn't this the type of 'DEMON CRACY' being waged by Jammeh? As the new year strikes, we will begin counting, DAYS TO ELECTIONS. The UNHOLY ALLIANCE being forged by various Concerned Gambian Movements around the world and Opposition Political Parties, will begin your worst nightmares ever. Gambians, sick and tired of you, Yahya and your APRC/July 22nd thugs, will forcefully, without choice, declare T*I*N*A*..THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE. Since you haven't and cannot rule, Gambians will never follow again. Therefore, on January 1, 2001, if you hear or see a protest sign, stating T*I*N*A*, it's time for you to leave, as your soldiers will be sweating and shi..... in their pants and running for their lives. Imbecile Gambian or African soldiers, will never be tolerated or encouraged to rule nations, instead should stay in their barracks, like the US Army, Marines and Air Forces are doing. One day soon, you'll share the same cell block with the ilk's of Strasser. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 08:56:46 -0000 Reply-To: Monica Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Monica Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The e-mail address to the Gambian embassy in Washington D.C is: [log in to unmask] Monica Ceesay Quoting MOMODOU Y CEESAY <[log in to unmask]>: > Would someone be kind enough to assist me in providing the phone number > and mailing address of the Gambian embassy in Washington D.C. I would > really appreciate it. > > Thanks > > Momodou > > -------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to > [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your > full name and e-mail address. > -------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- > ................................................................ GRATIS E-POST TILL ALLA KVINNOR! [log in to unmask] http://www.kvinna.nu ................................................................ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:43:39 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD: Civilians flee Guinea-Bissau capital, fearing all-out battle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed BISSAU, Nov 23 (AFP) - Scores of thousands of civilians on Thursday fled Guinea-Bissau's capital, fearing battle between rival troops backing President Kumba Yala and ex-junta leader General Ansumane Mane after morning skirmishes. More than half the population of Bissau left by car or on foot, before and after gunfire in the streets in the early hours of the morning, when at least one person was wounded, an AFP correspondent and other witnesses said. Rival military units were seen moving into positions less than 200 metres (yards) apart, on the road to the airport, where opposing sides faced off two years ago during a rebellion by Mane which led to the ouster of a previous head of state. Several sources said most government members took refuge at the UN offices in Bissau, where Mane has proclaimed himself "supreme commander" of a revived junta, some nine months after handing over to the elected Yala in February. Street battles between rival military units using automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades took place in several districts between 5:30 am (0530 GMT) and 8:00 am, witnesses told AFP. An AFP reporter saw one injured person but no other casualties. No details of the fighting or a possible toll have been released. "It seems like armed gangs are chasing each other across town," a diplomat told AFP in Dakar by telephone earlier, when gunfire could be heard in the streets. Mane, the general who has long effectively been in charge of most of the army and ran a junta from May 1999 until February this year, on Monday defied Yala over military promotions made last week and declared them null and void. Official sources said loyalist forces were Thursday being commanded by Colonel Verissimo Seabra Correia, whom Mane had "sacked" on Monday and placed under house arrest, along with two or three other top officers. Correia was believed to have evaded his guards overnight, according to some reports. National radio on Thursday broadcast a statement saying that the navy and army troops at Bissau's Amura fortress and garrisons in the north and south of the country were loyal to the president and under Correia's command. Yala himself was said to be among those who had taken refuge at the offices of the United Nations, but this could not be confirmed. The president has made no public announcement since Mane declared himself army chief on Monday. Between 60,000 and 70,000 people, more than half the population of the west African tropical city, fled to Salim, 15 kilometres (nine miles) to the north of Bissau, according to estimates by an AFP correspondent and other sources. After ousting president Joao Bernardo Vieira in May 1999 after an 11-month standoff, Mane headed a junta until he stepped aside, following elections, and handed power to Yala and his Party of Social Renewal (PRS). Some witnesses said that Mane's soldiers tried late Wednesday to disarm the presidential guard, while Yala was attending a meeting at the offices of the United Nations. The UN Security Council had on Tuesday warned Mane that it would hold him responsible if his actions "lead to further unrest and chaos", in the country of some one million people. Mane said in a public statement Wednesday that he had no intention of "intervening in matters of civilian authority" but was taking action to "restore serenity in the ranks of the military". aye/at/nb/kc _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:48:15 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD: Renegade Guinea-Bissau general, Mane, located Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed BISSAU, Nov 24 (AFP) - Missing rebel General Ansumane Mane, whose men were defeated by loyalist troops in Guinea-Bissau, has been located 40 kilometres (25 miles) north of the capital, military sources said Friday. A day after soldiers backing Mane fought troops supporting President Kumba Yala, the sources said he had fled to the parish of Quinhamel and negotiations were in hand with the local priest regarding his handover. The former military ruler, who had fallen out with Yala over key army appointments, left his headquarters at an airbase just north of Bissau on Thursday, when it was overrun by loyalist soldiers. Mane apparently drove with several of his men to Quinhamel, where he spent the night, according to sources in the army and close to the presidency. aye/at/nb _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 06:45:36 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dawda Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: correction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TYPO 'fallible' should read 'infallible'. I felt obligated to correct this word, because only GOD is infallible. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:49:52 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ndey Jobarteh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Yahya Jammeh castigating Americans about USA's elections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MRD, This is exactly what i was saying, "if this was to happen in Africa the army would have declared a war". One lesson one can learn from this is that, we can always fight our battles through the courts without resorting to war or murder. Infact one thing Jammeh and his gang failed to understand is that " Democracy belongs to no country, race or individual" It is about respect for people's desire and rights. To respect ones rights and desire, you don't need America or the West to tell/teach you. So they should not think that democracy belongs to America or the West. Jammeh will use anything to show the people that he is their best option but he will fail. Jammeh's desperation to win the elections by dishing money to schools will not win him anything. Gambians are aware that it is money stolen from them. As Kabir ones said it "Jammeh trying to play Robin Hood will fail". Infact Robin Hood takes from the poor to the rich, but Jammeh takes from the poor to enrich himself and his gang. The Struggle Continues!!! Ndey Jobarteh Movement for the Restoration of Democracy in Gambia wrote: > Sources reaching us, states that Yahya's daily mockery of the stalemate > election..Gore/Bush and hypocrisy US leaders preaches and or enforces on > African nation's electoral process, proves the naivete and lack of common > sense Yahya suffers from. What he, Yahya, fails or selectively pretends to > see [myopic] or forget [amnesia] is, if this scenario were to happen in any > African nation, the military/mercenary dogs would have been celebrating with > endless decrees, arbitrary arrest and detentions of civilians, soldier turn " > Pachah-Boy" syndrome, etc. > Take for instance, the recent AFPRC/APRC loss on the Sami elections, July > 22nd hoodlums and National Ignoramus Agency thugs, with blessings and > funding [alcohol, drugs and 'Attaya'] from Yahya and Babba Jobe, their > barbarians are let loose to terrorize civilians, especially women and > children, a tactic employed to scare the men into absolute sublimity...isn't > this the type of 'DEMON CRACY' being waged by Jammeh? > As the new year strikes, we will begin counting, DAYS TO ELECTIONS. The > UNHOLY ALLIANCE being forged by various Concerned Gambian Movements around > the world and Opposition Political Parties, will begin your worst nightmares > ever. Gambians, sick and tired of you, Yahya and your APRC/July 22nd thugs, > will forcefully, without choice, declare T*I*N*A*..THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE. > Since you haven't and cannot rule, Gambians will never follow again. > Therefore, on January 1, 2001, if you hear or see a protest sign, stating > T*I*N*A*, it's time for you to leave, as your soldiers will be sweating and > shi..... in their pants and running for their lives. Imbecile Gambian or > African soldiers, will never be tolerated or encouraged to rule nations, > instead should stay in their barracks, like the US Army, Marines and Air > Forces are doing. > One day soon, you'll share the same cell block with the ilk's of Strasser. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 06:52:43 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Bamba Laye Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Quick Tips for Year-End Tax Savings (U.S) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, I thought this might be useful information for some of you on the list who may want to get back as much taxes as possible or lower their tax expenses for the year. Rememebr, there is always many ways to beat "uncle sam" in the game. You don't have to lose! For the rest, I apologize for clogging up your in-boxes. If anyone needs clarification(s) on any of the items below, send a message and I will be happy to do the best I can to explain. Abdoulie A. Jallow Toll-free number: 1-888-392-4832(Excite2) Personal extension for v/mail/fax: 291-368-1519 ====================================================================== Quick Tips for Year-End Tax Savings It's not too late to make significant changes to your 2000 tax situation, changes that can affect the amount of tax you owe, or the amount of refund you receive, in April, 2001. Here are several pointers that can help you take control of your taxes before the year ends. Reschedule deductions. If you expect to owe additional taxes for 2000, you can pull some of what would be your 2001 itemized deductions back into 2000 by making early payments of expenses such as your mortgage (which will provide you with an additional month's interest deduction), or your first quarter state tax estimated payment, or deductible medical bills that you don't owe until January. Turning these expenses into 2000 deductions of course means you will reduce the amount of deductions you will have in 2001, so you should take that into consideration when you make this decision. Sell stock. If you own some stock that has lost money and you have little hope of it rising in value, you may want to consider taking your loss now. Up to $3,000 in losses on sales of stock is deductible in one year. If you sold some stocks at a gain, you can offset the gain with additional losses, in excess of the $3,000. In other words, if you have capital gains of $2,000, you can take a deduction for up to $5,000 in capital loss on your 2000 tax return. Make a retirement contribution. If you own a tax-deferred retirement plan, such as an IRA or a 401(k), and have the opportunity to make a contribution before the end of the year, you can reduce your taxable income by the amount of your contribution. Check the rules and income limitations that apply to these contributions before you write your check to make sure your contribution will be eligible as an income reduction. Contributions for 2000 to IRAs can be made all the way up to April 16, 2001. Change your withholding. You probably still have two or three paychecks coming to you before the end of the year. If it looks like you're going to be getting a fat refund in April, consider changing your withholding on your last few paychecks so that you'll have a little extra cash now instead of waiting until spring to get your refund. You can use that extra money for holiday spending, or tuck it away and let it go to work earning interest or dividends for you right now. Alternatively, if you're going to owe a lot of money on your tax return, consider increasing your withholding before the end of the year to help soften the blow in April. When calculating penalties for taxes that you underpaid, income tax withheld from your paycheck is treated as if it had been withheld evenly over the course of the year, even if the bulk of the withholding occurs in December. Make contributions. This is one of the easiest ways to cut your taxes, if you itemize your deductions. Make contributions to your favorite charity before the end of the year, and take a tax deduction for the amount you contribute. If you're short of cash and don't have the money to make a donation, consider cleaning out the closets, attic, and basement. Donate outgrown clothing, furniture you no longer use, old toys, sports equipment, and other items that are just taking up space. For information on how to value the items you donate, see the Salvation Army's valuation table at http://www.funwithtaxes.com/ValuationTable.htm. Make tuition payments. Consider the timing of school tuition payments for the students in the family. If you qualify for the Hope Scholarship Credit or the lifetime learning credit, and you haven't yet maximized your credit for 2000, consider paying second semester tuition before the end of the year to increase your credit for 2000. Courtesy of: AccountingWEB US 20th-Nov-2000 Categories: Top News, Taxation Story read 781 times _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:07:39 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ndey Jobarteh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: DUMO's PETITION MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kabir, Please add my name. Anytime i see Dumo's name i imagine how many people are being held against their will by this monster"Jammeh". What really makes me sad is that, we won't know how many people have been killed, murdered, tortured and brutalised by Jammeh until this guy leave. And this makes me really scared and worried because the number of secret murder and torture that has been committed in the country by Jammeh and his Gang are not yet known. After Jammeh we will really need a day of national mourning because it is only then we will know how many we have lose and how many wounds we will have to heal. We will never give up in our search for justice and peace!!!! The Struggle Continues!! Ndey Jobarteh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:15:52 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Musa Jeng <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FWD:1997 Constitution Under Review MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The prepared speech of the moron attests to that. I am not familiar with the latest Gambian Mr.Dampha: I am always eager to read your contributions because of the depth of your analysis, but your tendency to wrapp it sometimes with name calling dilutes its important. I absolutely do not care for President Jammeh, but resorting to name calling not only trivialize your analysis but also the Presidency. It will not be a bad tactic to make your opponents to even respect your point of view, Musa Jeng Dampha Kebba wrote: > Beran, thanks again for forwarding this article. After reading this and > other media where the visit of the Commonwealth officials have been > reported, am still at a lost why the visitors were hailing Yaya's move to > amend our Constitution. I might be missing something here or perhaps the > journalists did not quote the Commonwealth officials properly. If we have > laws such as Decree 89 that are clearly repugnant to natural justice and > constitutionally guaranteed rights such as freedom of association and > freedom of speech, I do not know what repealing those laws has to do with > amending the Constitution. Decree 89 does not need a Constitutional > amendment or court declaration to render it inapplicable. That Decree is now > toilet paper. People should challenge the government to try and use the > Decree. When that happens, people will then realize how useless that piece > of garbage is. The APRC lawyers discovered that and that is why they > counseled Buba Baldeh to defy the Decree. If other politicians defy the > Decree, nothing will come out of it. To paraphrase Yaya, 'any Decree that is > inconsistent with the Constitution will remain null and void to the extent > of that inconsistency'. So if you have a Constitution that guarantees its > citizens the right to belong to political parties, any Decree that tries to > unjustifiably curtail that right, is null and void. The prepared speech of > the moron attests to that. I am not familiar with the latest Gambian > Constitution, but I think I can safely guess that the Constitution granted > citizens freedom of association and also made the Constitution the supreme > law of the land. Therefore, no constitutional amendment is necessary in > order to get rid of draconian laws like Decree 89. The Commonwealth > officials should ask the authorities to be more specific about the proposed > amendments. And they should demand from the authorities explanations that > make sense. The reason given by Yaya, as reported in the papers, is > illogical. I hope this was not the explanation the Commonwealth officials > got from Yaya. If it was, the visitors should have asked Yaya whether Decree > 89 was part of the Constitution and therefore needed a constitutional > amendment before it could be repealed. Before such international observers > give legitimacy to the utterances of morons like Yaya, they should endeavor > to get all the logical facts. This revisiting of the Constitution is only > aimed at one thing; that is, to perpetuate Yaya and the APRC. These > amendments have nothing to do with giving ordinary Gambian citizens more > rights and doing what is right. If it was, there will be a provision > imposing term limits on the presidency. I respectfully urge the opposition > to be very vigilant in this exercise. Pap Cheyassin Secka and Yaya are only > interested in taking away rights from the citizens. If we do not watch our > back, Secka will help Yaya bring in more laws that will make it more > difficult for ordinary citizens to be defended in court. This is the same > Secka who thinks that it is constitutional to hold innocent citizens in jail > for several months incommunicado. These people are only out to deprive us of > the little rights we currently have. Commonwealth officials and opposition > party leaders should not assist the AG and Yaya in this fraud. > KB > > >From: "Jeng, Beran" <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > ><[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: FWD:1997 Constitution Under Review > >Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:14:15 -0500 > > > >Daily Observer > > > >(Banjul) > >November 21, 2000 > >Pa Kalifa Sanyang > >Banjul > >The head of the Commonwealth Ministerial Action Group(CMAG) delegation to > >the > >country, Alhaji Sule Lamido, told newsmen yesterday that his delegation > >received > >assurances from President Yahya Jammeh that the 1997 Constitution is > >undergoing > >some amendments. > >Alhaji Sule whose delegation held a closed-door meeting with President > >Jammeh at > >State House yesterday, said the constitutional amendment is aimed at > >repealing > >some laws that are inconsistent with the Constitution. The Nigerian foreign > >affairs minister said President Jammeh had quoted a section of the > >Constitution > >which says "any law which is inconsistent with the constitution will remain > >null > >and void to the level of that inconsistency", describing it as a "very > >encouraging" remark by the President. > >Asked whether specific reference was made to decree 89 which has been a > >subject > >of widespread controversy, the Nigerian foreign minister said, "The > >President > >talked about a process of constitutional amendment based on a certain > >constitutional provision and if my conclusions from what he had said are > >right, > >that particular decree is obviously on its way out." He said President > >Jammeh > >had indicated to the delegation that all obnoxious and exclusive decrees > >that > >were passed during the transition period would be brought in line with the > >Constitution according to the aspirations of the Gambian people. Alhaji > >Sule > >explained that his delegation's mission is to assist The Gambia in > >effecting > >internal reconciliation so that the entire country can forge ahead as a > >family. > >During their 3-day assessment mission, the Commonwealth delegation will > >hold > >talks with secretaries of state, leaders of political parties, Non > >Governmental > >Organisations and the media. At their last meeting in September this year, > >the > >Commonwealth Ministerial Action Group (CMAG) agreed on an early dispatch of > >a > >mission to The Gambia at the invitation of President Jammeh. > >The group also expressed the desire to see The Gambia government foster a > >more > >inclusive political environment, and in particular, repeal decree 89 which > >proscribed certain political parties and banned certain individuals from > >partisan politics. The group also expressed concern at other restrictions > >imposed on political parties and the media. The delegation included Hon Tan > >Sri > >Dato'Musa Bin Hitam, a special envoy of the Malaysian president, and some > >Commonwealth Secretariat staff. > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >You may also send subscription requests to > >[log in to unmask] > >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your > >full name and e-mail address. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 22:35:04 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Francis Glynn <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit phone - 202 785 1399 Address - 1155 15th St NW, Washington, DC 20005 Francis Gambia Tourist Support ----- Original Message ----- From: MOMODOU Y CEESAY <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 2:50 AM Subject: Re: Help > Would someone be kind enough to assist me in providing the phone number > and mailing address of the Gambian embassy in Washington D.C. I would > really appreciate it. > > Thanks > > Momodou > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:33:21 +0100 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Prince Obrien-Coker <[log in to unmask]> Subject: My Ramadan Message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit TO ALL MUSLIMS ON GAMBIA-L The Ramadan is at hand and I have no doubt that most of my Muslim patriots will fully participate and I wish you all the strength and stamina to go through it. However, I am wondering whether certain people will even start it, since eating is their favourite pastime. I am talking about people like Sidi Sanneh, Oussou Njie (Señor), Ebou Khan (E.K.) and Omar Jallow (O.J.). I would like to inform these people that being away from home does not, in any way, exempt them from fasting . So please do what is expected of you. To the rest of my Muslim brothers and Sisters, I once more wish you the endurance to see the month of Ramadan through. Prince ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 01:47:53 -0600 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: sariang marong <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FWD: MEANING AND BLESSING OF FASTING Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello Mambuna, May Allah reward you for your great efforts in broaden our knowledge in Islam.We really appreciate it.Well I got few questions for you in terms of Fasting in relations to certain obligation beyond our control.First what does Allah says when travelling for a day or more,second when you assigned a task when involves alot of physical body movement or out somewhere example out at sea for training.Whereby you will be on a ship not on land .What are the possible solutions or what does the Quran say on such situations.Thanks for your cooperation. Sariang. >From: "Mambuna O. Bojang" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: FWD: MEANING AND BLESSING OF FASTING >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 13:06:50 -0500 > >Ramadan greetings to everyone in advance. May Allah (SWT) make it easy >for all of us, and may He accept our fasting and forgive us for our sins >(ameen). Below is a pretty lenghty reading, but I think it will surely >worth your time. > >God Bless! >Pa Mambuna > > > >PROPHET SAYS: Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Allah the >Almighty has said: O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of >Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O >son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you >then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, were >you to come to Me with sins nearly as great as the earth and were you >then to face Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you >forgiveness nearly as great as it." (Tirmidhi) > > >MEANING AND BLESSING OF FASTING > > >The second act of worship that Allah enjoins upon Muslims is Sawm or >fasting. It means abstaining from dawn to sunset from eating, >drinking and sex. Like Prayer, this act of worship has been part of the >teachings of all the Messengers. Their followers fasted as we do. >However, the rules, the number of days, and the periods prescribed for >Fasting have varied >from one Shariah (the revealed, or canonical, law of Islam) to another. >Today, although Fasting remains a part of most religions in some form >or other, people have often changed its original form by accretions of >their own. > >O Believers! Fasting is ordained for you, even as it was ordained for >those before you." (The Qur'an 2:183). Why has this particular act of >worship been practiced in all eras? > >Life Of Worship > >Islam aims to transform the whole life of man into a life of worship. He >is born a slave; and to serve his Creator is his very nature. Not for a >single moment should he live without worshipping, that is surrendering >to Him in thoughts and deeds. He must remain conscious of what he ought >to do to earn the pleasure of Allah (SWT) and what he ought to avoid. He >should then walk on the path leading to Allah's pleasure, eschew that >leading to His displeasure just as he would avoid the embers of a fire. > >Only when our entire lives have become modeled on this pattern can we be >considered to have worshipped our Master as is His due and as having >fulfilled the purport of "I have not created jinn and men except for My >lbadah (complete submission and obedience). > >Rituals Lead To Worship > >The real purpose of ritual acts of worship - Salah, Zakah, Sawm and Hajj >- is to help us to come to that life of total worship. Never think that >you can acquit yourselves of what you owe to Allah only if you bow and >prostrate yourselves five times a day, suffer hunger and thirst from >dawn to sunset for thirty days in Ramadan and, if wealthy, give alms and >perform the Pilgrimage once in a lifetime. Doing all this does not >release you from the bondage to Him, nor make you free to do whatever >you like. Rather, one of the underlying purposes of enjoining these >rituals upon you is to develop you so that you can transform your whole >lives into the lbadah of Allah. > >The Private Worship > >All acts of worship include some outward physical movement, but not >Fasting. In Prayer you stand, sit, bow down and prostrate yourselves; >all these acts are visible to everybody. In Hajj you undertake a long >journey and travel with thousands of people. Zakah, too, is known to at >least two persons, the giver and the receiver. None of these acts can >remain concealed; if you perform them, other people will come to know >about them. > >But Fasting is a form of lbadah which is entirely private. The >all-knowing Allah alone knows that His servant is Fasting. You are >required to take food before dawn (Suhur) and abstain from eating and >drinking anything till the time to break the Fast (Iftar). But, if you >secretly eat and drink in between, nobody except Allah will know about >it. > >Sure Sign Of Faith > >The private nature of Fasting ensures that you have strong faith in >Allah as the One who knows everything. Only if your faith is true and >strong, will you not dream of eating or drinking secretly: even in the >hottest summer, when your throats dry up with thirst, you will not drink >a drop of water; even when you feel faint with hunger, when life itself >seems to be ebbing, you will not eat anything. To do all this, see what >firm conviction you must have that nothing whatsoever can ever be >concealed from Allah! How strong must be His fear and love in your >hearts. You will keep your Fast for about 360 hours for one full month >only because of your profound belief in the reward and punishment of the >Hereafter. Had you the slightest doubt that you have to meet your Maker, >you would not complete such a Fast. With doubts in the hearts, no such >resolves can be fulfilled > >Month-long Training > >In this way does Allah put to the test a Muslim's faith for a full month >every year. To the extent you emerge successful from this >trial, your faith becomes firmer and deeper. The Fasting is both a trial >and a training. If you deposit anything on trust with somebody, you are, >as it were, testing his integrity. If he does not abuse your trust, he >not only passes his test, but at the same time, also develops greater >strength to bear the burden of greater trusts in the future. Similarly, >Allah puts your faith to a severe test continuously for one month, many >long hours a day. If you emerge triumphant from this test, more strength >develops in you to refrain from other sins. This is what the Qur'an >says: "O Believers! Fasting is ordained for you, even as it was ordained >to >those before you, that you might attain to Allah-consciousness." (The >Qur'an 2:183). > >Practicing Obedience > >The Fasting has another characteristic. It makes us obey the injunctions >of the Shariah with sustained intensity for prolonged periods of time. >Salah lasts only a few minutes at a time. Zakah is paid only once a >year. Although the time spent on Hajj is long, it may come only once in >a lifetime. In the school of Fasting, you are trained to obey the >Shariah of Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him), for one full month, >every year, day and night. You have to get up early before dawn for >Suhur, stop all eating and drinking precisely at a certain time, do >certain activities and abstain from certain activities during the day, >break your Fast (Iftar) in the evening at exactly a certain time. Then, >for a few moments only you relax, before you hurry for long late evening >prayers (Tarawih). > >Every year, for one full month from dawn to dusk and from dusk to dawn, >you, like a soldier in an army, continuously live a disciplined life.You >are then sent back to continue your normal duties for eleven months so >that the training you have received for one month may be reflected in >your conduct, and if any deficiency is found it may be made up the next >year. > >Communal Fasting > >Training of such profound nature cannot be imparted to each individual >separately. In just the way an army is trained, everyone has to act at >the same time at the sound of the bugle so that they may develop team >spirit, learn to act in unison, and assist each other in their task of >development. The month of Ramadan is earmarked for all Muslims to fast >together, to ensure similar >results. This measure turns individual Ibadah into collective lbadah. >Just as the number one, when multiplied by thousands, becomes a >formidable number, so the moral and spiritual benefits accruing from the >Fasting by one person alone are increased a millionfold if a million >people fast together. > >The month of Ramadan suffuses the whole environment with a spirit of >righteousness, virtue and piety. As flowers blossom in spring, so does >Taqwa (fear and love of Allah) in Ramadan. Everyone tries extra hard to >avoid sin and, if they lapse, they know they can count on the help of >many brothers and sisters who are Fasting with them. The desire >automatically arises in every heart to do good works, to feed the poor, >to clothe the naked, to help those in distress, to participate in any >good work being done anywhere, and to prevent evil. > >For this reason the Messenger (pbuh) said: "Every good deed of a man is >granted manifold increase, ten to seven hundred times. But says Allah: >'Fasting is an exception; it is exclusively for Me, and I reward for it >as much as I wish.' " (Bukhari, Muslim). All good deeds >grow, then, in proportion to both the intention of the doer as well as >their results, but that there is a limit to their growth. Fasting, >however, has no such limit. In Ramadan, in the season for the >flourishing of good and piety, not one but millions of people jointly >water this garden of virtue. The more you sincerely perform good deeds >in this >month and the greater you avail yourselves of its blessings, the more >you sustain the impact of fasting on your life during the subsequent >eleven months, the more will our garden flourish, and flourish without >limit. Should its growth become inhibited, the fault must lie with you. > >Where Are The Results? > >After snapping the vital links between various parts of Islam and >injecting into it many new things, we cannot expect the same results as >from the whole. A second reason is that we have practically changed the >meaning of lbadah. Many of us believe that mere abstention from food and >drink, from morning till evening, amounts to lbadah; once you do all >these things you have worshipped Allah. A greater majority of the >Muslims is unmindful of the real spirit of Ibadah which should permeate >all our actions. That is why the acts of Ibadah do not produce their >full benefit. For everything in Islam depends on intention and >understanding. > >The True Spirit Of Fasting > >Essentially every work which we do has two components. The first is its >purpose and spirit; the second, the particular form which is chosen to >achieve that purpose. Take the case of food. Our main purpose in eating >is to stay alive and maintain our strength. The method of achieving this >object is that we take a piece of food, put it in our mouth, chew it and >swallow >it. This method is adopted since it is the most effective and >appropriate one to achieve our purpose. But everyone knows that the main >thing is the purpose for which food is taken and not the form, the act >of eating takes. > >How would we react if someone tried to eat a piece of sawdust or cinder >or mud? You would say that he was mad or ill. That he would not have >understood the real purpose of eating and would have erroneously >believed that chewing and swallowing constituted eating. Likewise, we >would also call someone mad who thrust his fingers down his throat to >vomit up the food he had just eaten and then complained that the >benefits said to accrue from taking the food were not being realized. >Rather, on the contrary, he was getting thinner day by day. This person >blames the food for a situation that is due to his own stupidity. Thus >the purpose of eating cannot be achieved by merely fulfilling these >outward actions. > >Outward Replaces Real > >Perhaps we can now understand why our lbadah has become ineffectual and >empty. The greatest mistake of all is to take the acts of Prayer and >Fasting and their outward shape as the real Ibadah. Otherwise, how can >we explain, that a person who is Fasting, and is thus engaged in the >lbadah of Allah from morning till evening, in the midst of that lbadah, >tells a lie or slanders someone? Why does he quarrel on the slightest >pretext and abuse those he is quarreling with? How dare he encroach on >other people's rights? And how can he claim, having done all these >things, that he has still performed the lbadah of Allah? Does this not >resemble the actions of that person who eats cinders and mud and thinks >that by merely completing the four requirements of eating he has >actually done the job of eating? > >How, too, can we claim to have worshipped Allah for many long hours >throughout Ramadan when the impact of this whole exercise in spiritual >and moral upliftment vanishes on the first day of the next month? During >the Id days we do all that pagans do in their festivals, so much so that >in some places we even turn to adultery, drinking and gambling. And I >have seen some degenerates who Fast during the day and drink alcohol and >commit adultery at night. Most Muslims, Alhamdulillah, have not >fallen so low. But how many of us still retain any trace of piety and >virtue by the second day of Id? > >The Perspective > >This form has been prescribed to create in us such fear of Allah and >love, such strength of will and character, that, even against our >desire, we avoid seemingly profitable things which in fact displease >Allah and do those things which possibly entail risks and losses but >definitely please Allah. This strength can be developed only when we >understand the purpose of Fasting and desire to put to use the training >we have undergone of curbing our physical desires for the fear and love >of Allah only. > >Just as the physical strength cannot be obtained from bread until it is >digested, transformed into blood, which spreads through >every vein, so spiritual strength cannot be obtained from Fasting until >the person who keeps the Fast is conscious of its purpose and allows it >to permeate his heart and mind and dominate his thoughts, motives and >deeds. > >Fasting As A Way To Piety > >This is why Allah, after ordaining fasting, has said that Fasting is >made obligatory on you, so that you may attain to Allah-consciousness. >Note that there is no guarantee that you will definitely become >Allah-conscious and righteous. Only someone who recognizes the purpose >of Fasting and strives to achieve it will receive its blessings; someone >who does not, >cannot hope to gain anything from it. > >Conditions Of Fasting > >The Messenger (pbuh) has said: "If one does not give up speaking >falsehood and acting by it, Allah does not require him to give up eating >and drinking." (Bukhari). On another occasion, he said: "Many are the >people who Fast but who gain nothing from >their Fast except hunger and thirst; and many are those who stand >praying all night but gain nothing except sleeplessness." (Darimi). > >Faith And Self-Scrutiny > >The Messenger (pbuh) draws attention toanother aim of Fasting thus: >"Whoever observes the Fast, believing and counting, has >all his past sins forgiven." (Bukhari, Muslim). Believing means that >faith in Allah should remain alive in the consciousness of a Muslim. >Counting means that you should seek only Allah's pleasure, constantly >watching over your thoughts and actions to make sure you are doing >nothing contrary to His pleasure, and trusting and expecting the rewards >promised by Allah and the Messenger. Observing these two principles >brings the rich reward of all our past sins being forgiven. The reason >is obvious: even if we were disobedient, we will have now turned, fully >repentant, to our Master--and "a penitent is like one who has, >as it were, never committed a sin at all" as said the Messenger (pbuh). > >Shield Against Sins > >The Messenger (pbuh) said: "The Fast is like a shield [for protection >from Satan's attack]. Therefore when one observes the Fast he should >[use this shield and] abstain from quarreling. If anybody quarrels with >him, he should simply say: 'Brother/Sister, I am fasting.'" (Bukhari, >Muslim). > >Hunger for Goodness > >The Messenger (pbuh) once directed that a man, while Fasting, ought to >do more good works than usual and ardently desire to >perform acts of kindness. Compassion and sympathy for his brothers >should intensify in his heart because, being himself in the throes of >hunger and thirst, he will all the more be able to realize the misery of >other servants of Allah who are destitute. "In Ramadan, whoever provides >food to a person who is Fasting to break that Fast will earn forgiveness >for his sins, deliverance from the Fire and as much reward as the one >who is Fasting, without any reduction in the recompense of the latter." >(Baihaqi). > >Abdullah Ibn Abbas said the Messenger (pbuh) used to become unusually >kind and generous during Ramadan. No beggar in that period went >empty-handed from his door, and as many slaves as possible were set >free. (Baihaqi). > >By S. A. 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Some people are excused simply because a seriously empty stomach equals a health hazard. I happen to fall in the group. But, that aside, I wish everyone participating in this most holy of times a very Happy Ramadan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:17:33 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: OUSMAN MANJANG <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed PaPa Yuosu, Don't tell me that you see Ramadan and an example of a hunger strike. I thought that you will be among my champs in fasting as this is an act of worship. Remember, you will findout that the blessings always come as a cure to any medical worries(laugh). Just try year and call me to let me know how it all goes. I can tell that Housan is well prepared for this Holly month. Thanks Ousman >From: Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 04:04:47 EST > >Prince, one thing is for sure, Ramadan is not for everyone. Some people >are >excused simply because a seriously empty stomach equals a health hazard. > >I happen to fall in the group. But, that aside, I wish everyone >participating in this most holy of times a very Happy Ramadan. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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May Allah give us all the ability to embrace this great and beautiful month and may the Almighty accept aou repentance, prayers and sacrifice we all intend to offer before, during and after Ramadan....Amen!! Let the Gassama's, Drammeh's, Bojang's and the fulas know that it is to abstain from eating, drinking, and doing anything pleasurable (you'll know what am talking about) from dusk to dawn and NOT till noon. Good luck to you all. Ousman Manjang >From: Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 04:04:47 EST > >Prince, one thing is for sure, Ramadan is not for everyone. Some people >are >excused simply because a seriously empty stomach equals a health hazard. > >I happen to fall in the group. But, that aside, I wish everyone >participating in this most holy of times a very Happy Ramadan. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Folks,
 
The latest you may have heard is Guinea Bissau. I tell you what there is serious battle in the City of Banjul between the Jammeh's Loyalist Government forces and Nature (Atlantic Ocean)
Already all the dead have been consumed by the soldiers of nature and now they are quickly advancing towards the living with no exception to State House. Who can save mother Banjul???
Looking along the coast Yahya lines it with soldiers that do not move, no hands some close to the enemy some far from close to the brink of the road watching the enemy advancing waiting to be attacked before action is taken. Any soldier who behaves like this has lost it and so unless positive re-enforcements are brought from the West, Banjul and its living will be consumed in no long time.
Please help him God. For the West will never help this boy soldier b,cause he thinks he knows and has it all.So help him God.No wonder a retreat bunker has been built back home in Kanilai.


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SUSPECTED COUP PLOTTERS ARRESTED BY NIA Two women and a man were arrested earlier this week in connection with an alleged coup plot to unseat the APRC government. Aji Fatou Mbenga of Kanifing, Sainabou Njie of Latrikunda Mampatokoto and Biram Bah of Sare Pate in Sami were arrested by the National Intelligence Agency to help investigations already mounted to uncover an alleged coup plot in which the NIA director general was also allegedly implicated. The NIA Public Relations Officer was not available for comment regarding the alleged arrest and detentions of named civilians. However an NIA office who declined to reveal his identity said the arrests were made in the interest of national security and cannot be challenged by anyone. Regards, Alieu _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Maila -----Original Message----- From: UNCLE JAY [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 6:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: WAR BREAKS IN BANJUL CITY, SOS!!! Folks, The latest you may have heard is Guinea Bissau. I tell you what there is serious battle in the City of Banjul between the Jammeh's Loyalist Government forces and Nature (Atlantic Ocean) Already all the dead have been consumed by the soldiers of nature and now they are quickly advancing towards the living with no exception to State House. Who can save mother Banjul??? Looking along the coast Yahya lines it with soldiers that do not move, no hands some close to the enemy some far from close to the brink of the road watching the enemy advancing waiting to be attacked before action is taken. Any soldier who behaves like this has lost it and so unless positive re-enforcements are brought from the West, Banjul and its living will be consumed in no long time. Please help him God. For the West will never help this boy soldier b,cause he thinks he knows and has it all.So help him God.No wonder a retreat bunker has been built back home in Kanilai. _____ Get more from the Web. 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When I told Saiks Samateh that I do not like traveling during the month of Ramadan, he immediately concluded that I am either a Sarahuleh or from the Camara clan. Nyanchos being what they are, suspicions abound about our dedication to the faith. I join you and Yus in wishing my muslim brothers and sisters Happy Month of Ramadan. Brother Habib, its been a long time. Beola, I intended to visit Banjul before the Ramadan to do some work and also to see Ola but I had to postpone the trip partly, yes, because of the Ramadan. 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When is this "national security" hogwash going to end folks? It seems the thugs have started their terror campaign again, now that the elections is just around the corner. When are we going to wake up and say enough is enough? Can some one tell these NIA morons that THEY are the threat to national security and the sooner they realize that and stop these non-sense arrests, the better for them. For, when the boomerang turns around, it comes with deadly force. Just look at the names of the "alleged coup plotters". I have no clue who these people are, but it seems really absurd and rather ridiculous, with the information given, that such people will collaborate with the NIA boss to plot a coup. I won't be surprised if this Aji Fatou lady and Sainabou turn out to be some highly recognized opposition activists. This poor guy Kebba Ceesay (NIA Director General?), when is he going to wake up from his sleep? With all what this guy and his family went through in the hands of Yaya.... here he is again! Same old game, same old trap, same old $#!^ again and again and again! For Yaya Jammeh - The Chief Dirimo. I say, beware of the man who does not talk and the dog that does not bark. Let the innocent parents, brothers, sisters go. Putting some away, and killing some will not take you any further from your most deserved peril. It is closer than you would ever think. Insecurity is not a way of life. Get a life! Abdoulie A. Jallow Toll-free number: 1-888-392-4832(Excite2) Personal extension for v/mail/fax: 291-368-1519 _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? 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Prince,

          The group of potential WATER STEALERS during Ramadan is much ,much larger than the one alluded below.Please,add to your list the Badibunkers and the Ceasay Kundangkers!!

Can you believe that a Badibunker old Pa once asked whether he could do his Fasting during the nights of Ramadan so that by the time he woke up every morning it would be breakfast as usual ?!!!

If that were the case Ebrima Ceasay and his clansmen and women would have nothing to worry about,would they?

 

              Regards, Basss

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>The Ramadan is at hand and I have no doubt that most of my Muslim patriots will
>fully participate and I wish you all the strength and stamina to go through it.
>However, I am wondering whether certain people will even start it, since eating
>is their favourite pastime. I am talking about people like Sidi Sanneh, Oussou
>Njie (Señor), Ebou Khan (E.K.) and Omar Jallow (O.J.). I would like to inform
>these people that being away from home does not, in any way, exempt them from
>fasting . So please do what is expected of you.
>To the rest of my Muslim brothers and Sisters, I once more wish you the
>endurance to see the month of Ramadan through.
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>Prince
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In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII what does this mean, please? On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, UNCLE JAY wrote: > > > > Folks, > > The latest you may have heard is Guinea Bissau. I tell you what there is > serious battle in the City of Banjul between the Jammeh's Loyalist > Government forces and Nature (Atlantic Ocean) > Already all the dead have been consumed by the soldiers of nature and now > they are quickly advancing towards the living with no exception to State > House. Who can save mother Banjul??? > Looking along the coast Yahya lines it with soldiers that do not move, no > hands some close to the enemy some far from close to the brink of the > road watching the enemy advancing waiting to be attacked before action is > taken. Any soldier who behaves like this has lost it and so unless > positive re-enforcements are brought from the West, Banjul and its living > will be consumed in no long time. > Please help him God. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Maila & Ylva, The only thing I make of this posting is the serious coastal erosion taking place in Banjul and the Kombo St Mary's area. If this indeed is what the writer is referring to, I do not understand why he appears gleeful at such environmental disaster which is not only threatening economic infrastructure but human life. The problem is currently being addressed by the African Development Bank and we hope that the erosion will be arrested and eventually reversed. The problem has been scientifically diagnosed by a Dutch Consulting firm and recommendations made as to the least-cost approach to effectively addressing the issue. So, it is not a fact that the donor community is unwilling to help The Gambia in this area. Sidi Sanneh >From: Ylva Hernlund <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: WAR BREAKS IN BANJUL CITY, SOS!!! >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:29:39 -0800 > >what does this mean, please? > >On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, UNCLE JAY wrote: > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > The latest you may have heard is Guinea Bissau. I tell you what there is > > serious battle in the City of Banjul between the Jammeh's Loyalist > > Government forces and Nature (Atlantic Ocean) > > Already all the dead have been consumed by the soldiers of nature and >now > > they are quickly advancing towards the living with no exception to State > > House. Who can save mother Banjul??? > > Looking along the coast Yahya lines it with soldiers that do not move, >no > > hands some close to the enemy some far from close to the brink of the > > road watching the enemy advancing waiting to be attacked before action >is > > taken. Any soldier who behaves like this has lost it and so unless > > positive re-enforcements are brought from the West, Banjul and its >living > > will be consumed in no long time. > > Please help him God. For the West will never help this boy soldier > > b,cause he thinks he knows and has it all.So help him God.No wonder a > > retreat bunker has been built back home in Kanilai. > > > > >________________________________________________________________________________ > > Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:56:15 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Amat Gaye <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: WAR BREAKS IN BANJUL CITY, SOS!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Irresponsible!! If this was meant to be funny or cute, it was neither. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 22:26:57 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT. THE DEATH OF FODAY-CARR DANJO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sincere condolences to the family and friends of Foday-Carr Danjo. May his soul rest in eternal peace. We must draw strength and joy from Foday's life and continue some of his commitments. >From: Kebba Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT. THE DEATH OF FODAY-CARR DANJO >Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:53:53 CET > >Hello everyone, > It is of the deepest sorrow from friends and relatives of >mr >foday-carr Danjo of niani Dobo who passed away this month in the >gambia.Foday was born in niani Dobo village in sami district(CRD).He >attended Dobo primary school and then to Armitage high school.He then >proceeded to the gambia college and qualified as a teacher. >He is survived by a wife an two children.May his soul rest in eternal >peace. > Kebba Sanneh > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 15:34:00 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ylva Hernlund <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: WAR BREAKS IN BANJUL CITY, SOS!!! In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you for your reply. I suspected as much, but the alarming headline was an unnecessary scare in these tense times. Best, Ylva On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Sidi M Sanneh wrote: > Maila & Ylva, > > The only thing I make of this posting is the serious coastal erosion taking > place in Banjul and the Kombo St Mary's area. If this indeed is what the > writer is referring to, I do not understand why he appears gleeful at such > environmental disaster which is not only threatening economic infrastructure > but human life. > > The problem is currently being addressed by the African Development Bank and > we hope that the erosion will be arrested and eventually reversed. The > problem has been scientifically diagnosed by a Dutch Consulting firm and > recommendations made as to the least-cost approach to effectively addressing > the issue. So, it is not a fact that the donor community is unwilling to > help The Gambia in this area. > > Sidi Sanneh > > > > > >From: Ylva Hernlund <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > ><[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: WAR BREAKS IN BANJUL CITY, SOS!!! > >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:29:39 -0800 > > > >what does this mean, please? > > > >On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, UNCLE JAY wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > The latest you may have heard is Guinea Bissau. I tell you what there is > > > serious battle in the City of Banjul between the Jammeh's Loyalist > > > Government forces and Nature (Atlantic Ocean) > > > Already all the dead have been consumed by the soldiers of nature and > >now > > > they are quickly advancing towards the living with no exception to State > > > House. Who can save mother Banjul??? > > > Looking along the coast Yahya lines it with soldiers that do not move, > >no > > > hands some close to the enemy some far from close to the brink of the > > > road watching the enemy advancing waiting to be attacked before action > >is > > > taken. Any soldier who behaves like this has lost it and so unless > > > positive re-enforcements are brought from the West, Banjul and its > >living > > > will be consumed in no long time. > > > Please help him God. For the West will never help this boy soldier > > > b,cause he thinks he knows and has it all.So help him God.No wonder a > > > retreat bunker has been built back home in Kanilai. > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the > >Gambia-L > > > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >You > > > may also send subscription requests to > > > [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing > >the > > > web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >You may also send subscription requests to > >[log in to unmask] > >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your > >full name and e-mail address. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 00:06:03 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FWD: Libyans apprehended for attacking foreigners will be put on trial Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed SIDI THANX FOR THIS AFP ARTICLE. FOLKS IF YOU BELIEVE THE STORY OF THE TWO SUDANESE RAPING A LIBYAN WOMAN/GIRL, THEN YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LIBYAN PROPAGANDA WORKS OR FOR THAT MATTER HOW NEWS GETS DISSEMINATED. AGENCE FRANCE PRESSE IS NOT EXACTLY AN INDEPENDENT SOURCE OF NEWS. ITS JUST THAT FRANCE'S EXPLOITATION OF VACUUMS CREATED BY SANCTION-ABIDING COMPANIES AFFORDS AFP A MODICUM OF FREEDOM TO OPERATE IN LIBYA. SECONDLY, IF YOU THINK THESE HOODLUMS ARE GOING TO BE TRIED ACCORDING TO UNDERSTOOD STANDARDS OF JUSTICE THEN YOU'D PROBABLY BELIEVE IT WHEN I TELL YOU THAT I CROSSED THE ATLANTIC WALKING. YOU KNOW HOW ISRAEL BELIEVES (WITH GOOD REASON) THAT A JEW IS WORTH 10 ARABS, THAT IS HOW LIBYANS VIEW THEIR BLACK COUNTERPARTS AND BLACK FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, GO SEE FOR YOURSELF. BOTTOMLINE, HE(GADDAFIDUCK) IS FEELING THE HEAT OF RE-ALIENATION AND WANTS TO DO SOMETHING TO HOODWINK THE IDIOTS (AFRICAN HEADS OF STATE). "THERE IS AN INVISIBLE FORCE BEHIND THE VIOLENCE" MY ARSE. >From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: FWD: Libyans apprehended for attacking foreigners will be put on > trial >Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:27:59 -0000 > > TRIPOLI, Nov 20 (AFP) - Libyans and others arrested for a recent batch >of >violent attacks upon foreigners will soon stand trial, Libyan Justice >Minister >Abdel Rahman al-Abbar vowed Monday. > Seventy-five people, the majority of whom are Libyan, will be brought to >trial for the deaths of six foreigners during riots last September that >caused >33,000 black Africans to flee Libya, Abbar told a press conference. > "There will be public trials in the coming days to punish those >implicated >in these events. It is a matter of our honor and our national security," >said >Abbar. > He added that the six dead consisted of a Libyan, two Nigerians, a >Sudanese, and two Chadians. The fighting, which occurred in the town of >Zawiyah, 40 kilometers (25 miles) west of Tripoli, had begun when a Libyan >tried to stop two Sudanese from raping his sister. > The minister emphasized that Libya still welcomed its ties with black >Africa. "More than two million black Africans of different nationalities >live >side by side with the Libyan people without any incidents," he said. > He blasted the Western media for exploiting the episode and alleged that >there had "been an invisible hand responsible for the violence." > Thousands of Africans have left Libya since the rioting. Upon returning >to >their home countries, some have said that dozens of people died in the >violence. > Abbar expressed regret for such allegations and warned Libya's former >guests that it "is not right to treat the country that welcomes you in such >a >way." > fac/np/mb > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 00:11:21 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Ous>>Re: Hon Sedia Jatta Vs. Therese Ndong Jatta Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I'M SURE MR. JATTA'S COMMENTS WERE TAKEN COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT OR MISUNDERSTOOD. LIKE YOU, I HOPE FOROYAA GIVES THE CONTEXT AND ELABORATES ON THE PREMISE OF HIS COMMENTS. I'M SURE THERE IS A LOGICAL EXPLANATION-THAT MUCH I KNOW. DON'T MAKE MUCH OF SEEMING SEXISM BY PDOIS. >From: Ousman Bojang <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Ous>>Re: Hon Sedia Jatta Vs. Therese Ndong Jatta >Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:25:35 EST > >Laye, >Your point does make a lot of sense. I have not even thought of it from >that >angle. I hope Mr. Jatta will try to explain his position more on this >aspect, >and not just to say it is "unconstitutional." > >My reagards to Ellen and the little ones too. >Take care, >Ousman Bojang. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 18:50:00 -0600 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Mr Makaveli <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: SUSPECTED COUP PLOTTERS ARRESTED BY NIA Bamba Laye, It's been 4 months , 22days since you wrote : <--" [ Chew on this folks. WE MUST LEARN TO RESIST. THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. "When we walk to the edge of all the light we have and take the step into the darkness of the unknown, we must believe that one of two things will happen. There will be something solid for us to stand on or we will be taught to fly." - Frank Outlaw ] " ---> And here we go again, same NIAs, same Government doing exactly what they do best. For how long are we going to keep CHEWING this $#!^ . There comes a time when one doesn't have to suck it up you know. Hell, if our grandmas have to walk down the streets of Banjul with their frying pans, 'mbatus' , 'Leckettes', whatever it takes for a civil disobedience, then so be it. I mean even Marvin Gaye is probably wondering WHAT'S GOING ON in that country God rest his soul. This nonesense really has to stop. All these people abducted are GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT, decree 666 maybe? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? And then even your very own lawyers have to climb ' Ganow Countoire' before they can peek at their clients, innocent law-abiding citizens guilty of nothing but their fear of speaking against this despotic APRC gypsies. So they wonder why some of us call them bunch of no-goods. Honestly, in my book, these people are worst than any devil known to man. That said ,my people, we must learn to resist! Bad things also comes to those who wait too long , you know. Catch 22. Am out! Thanks Bamba Laye. Word! From: Bamba Laye Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: SUSPECTED COUP PLOTTERS ARRESTED BY NIA To: [log in to unmask] Date: Nov 25, 2000 "However an NIA office who declined to reveal his identity said the arrests were made in the interest of national security AND CANNOT BE CHALLENGED BY ANYONE (my emphasis)." When is this "national security" hogwash going to end folks? It seems the thugs have started their terror campaign again, now that the elections is just around the corner. When are we going to wake up and say enough is enough? Can some one tell these NIA morons that THEY are the threat to national security and the sooner they realize that and stop these non-sense arrests, the better for them. For, when the boomerang turns around, it comes with deadly force. Just look at the names of the "alleged coup plotters". I have no clue who these people are, but it seems really absurd and rather ridiculous, with the information given, that such people will collaborate with the NIA boss to plot a coup. I won't be surprised if this Aji Fatou lady and Sainabou turn out to be some highly recognized opposition activists. This poor guy Kebba Ceesay (NIA Director General?), when is he going to wake up from his sleep? With all what this guy and his family went through in the hands of Yaya.... here he is again! Same old game, same old trap, same old $#!^ again and again and again! For Yaya Jammeh - The Chief Dirimo. I say, beware of the man who does not talk and the dog that does not bark. Let the innocent parents, brothers, sisters go. Putting some away, and killing some will not take you any further from your most deserved peril. It is closer than you would ever think. Insecurity is not a way of life. Get a life! Abdoulie A. Jallow Toll-free number: 1-888-392-4832(Excite2) Personal extension for v/mail/fax: 291-368-1519 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 21:05:31 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Lamine Conteh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: SUSPECTED COUP PLOTTERS ARRESTED BY NIA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comrades: This is indeed another desperate attempt by the dictatorship in intimidating and accusing innocent Gambia. When will this stop? Has the dictator lost his mind? Every Gambian should be concerned with the change of events in our country. We must mount all efforts to stop this mad tactic. The dictator must go. Free our brothers and sisters. Long live democracy and down with dictator yahya jemus. Dictator yahya jemus, let my people go. Naphiyo, Comrade ML Jassey-Conteh > [Original Message] > From: Alieu Bah <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Date: 11/25/00 6:58:31 AM > Subject: SUSPECTED COUP PLOTTERS ARRESTED BY NIA > > This was culled from Gambianet.com news page. > > > > SUSPECTED COUP PLOTTERS ARRESTED BY NIA > > Two women and a man were arrested earlier this week in connection with an > alleged coup plot to unseat the APRC government. > > Aji Fatou Mbenga of Kanifing, Sainabou Njie of Latrikunda Mampatokoto and > Biram Bah of Sare Pate in Sami were arrested by the National Intelligence > Agency to help investigations already mounted to uncover an alleged coup > plot in which the NIA director general was also allegedly implicated. > > The NIA Public Relations Officer was not available for comment regarding the > alleged arrest and detentions of named civilians. However an NIA office who > declined to reveal his identity said the arrests were made in the interest > of national security and cannot be challenged by anyone. > > > Regards, > Alieu > > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lamine Conteh --- [log in to unmask] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:08:16 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Sarja Taal and Mayor of Banjul nearly came to blows Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gambia-L: The unedited e-mail below came from one of my sources in the Gambia. Basirou Drammeh: Good to read your posting again, after a lull. And, please, this time around, I hope you'll truly keep the fast. Let us not forget that your last name is DRAMMEH. By the way, where are the Camaras and the Tourays? Well, they are all hiding because it is the Ramadan period. Prince: My best wishes to you and the family. I do have ULCER, but it only comes during Ramadan time. (laugh) Regards, Ebrima _______________________________________________________________________ >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Sarja Taal and Mayor of Banjul nearly came to blows >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 > >Ebrima, > >The Jammeh camp is really in disarray. Mayor Samba Faal and Sarja Taal >nearly came to blows at the APRC Headquarters, Independence Drive last >week, over who is going to be Banjul Mayoral candidate for the APRC. > >It is common knowledge that there are some , including Sarja, who would >like to see Samba Faal replaced by Fatoumatta Jahumpa-Ceesay as the APRC >candidate. She has the support of Aji Fatou Sallah and Yankuba Touray with >Fisco Conteh in the background. But the opposition is least worried about >who the APRC candidate is. They know that whoever he or she is APRC cannot >win any election in Banjul. People have seen the performance of this >incompetent and corrupt political party. > >As for Fatoumatta Jahumpa-Ceesay, she is only waisting her time because she >is the least popular human in the Gambia, after Yahya Jammeh. Let them >break each others heads while the opposition develop strategy of unseating >the Jammeh regime. > >Meanwhile, the security forces are on the alert for the renegade General >Ansumane Mane who is on the run. The Guinea-Bissau authorities have let it >be known that should he be caught alive, they do not intend to execute him >but rather expell him to SUKUTA. The Gambian people are waiting for him. >He would be safer in Lisbon than Banjul; that is if he is still alive. >Happy Ramadan to our muslim brothers and sisters of the Gambia-L. > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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THE DEATH OF FODAY-CARR DANJO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kebba, I join you and the rest of the Gambia-L community to wish Foday-carr Danjo's wonderful family our belated condolences on his (Foday's)the demise. May his soul rest in perfect peace together with all the departed souls. Foday-carr was my classmate at Armitage, so for me it's like looking at his image in a mirror. A gentleman in his colour he was. I wish the family and friends good luck. OB Silla. ----- Original Message ----- From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: 25 November 2000 17:26 PM Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT. THE DEATH OF FODAY-CARR DANJO > Sincere condolences to the family and friends of Foday-Carr Danjo. May his > soul rest in eternal peace. We must draw strength and joy from Foday's life > and continue some of his commitments. > > > >From: Kebba Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > ><[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT. THE DEATH OF FODAY-CARR DANJO > >Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:53:53 CET > > > >Hello everyone, > > It is of the deepest sorrow from friends and relatives of > >mr > >foday-carr Danjo of niani Dobo who passed away this month in the > >gambia.Foday was born in niani Dobo village in sami district(CRD).He > >attended Dobo primary school and then to Armitage high school.He then > >proceeded to the gambia college and qualified as a teacher. > >He is survived by a wife an two children.May his soul rest in eternal > >peace. > > Kebba Sanneh > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > >http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >You may also send subscription requests to > >[log in to unmask] > >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your > >full name and e-mail address. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:23:37 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dawda Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: edited version(please replace it) Comments: cc: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 TRUTH =20 The lie jumpstarts the truth and the Truth finds its in bed, only to wake It up for a crystal revelation.=20 Lie always takes the fast lane=20 Lousily, and truth takes The slow lane in a quiet kinetic energy, And as upon anesthesia. And when the lie is plucked To be plunged truth arises in zealousness. Hardly and rarely truth precedes, but Always ends the saga and conquers Its enemies. Bear the truth in the People, houses, societies, courts Even to the enemies, lest! the nation. Truth is colorless as water but harder Than the metamorphic rock. It is as Sacred as the divine blessings whose Words are kept in heavenly scriptures. People=E2=80=99s words are unblessed by the Angels of GOD Almighty, except When they bear reality. These angels Chastise the unrepentant lies. And lies will never go unquestioned In the Almighty=E2=80=99s seat, ESCAPE here, Even at Hague, or name it, But GOD is the Judge in the hereafter With equal recompense. The truth will Always prevail, people die but the truth Stays even after they=E2=80=99re gone over centuries. Lies know how truth deals, and its end Is always ah ! or oh ! Avoid! Avoid! Avoid! =20 =20 Dawda Jallow.2000. =20 =20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:24:54 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dawda Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: edited version(please replace it) Comments: cc: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Life =20 Life is but a shadow Just like a mere dream To an other life. =20 =20 Like a dwarf, short For everyone and=20 A narrow path. =C2=A0=20 No control of Its span for Whoever. =20 It is a curse for This and blessed That. =20 Sow the good or evil,=C2=A0 And it speaks=E2=80=A6legacy. =20 It is real, is, is, Just a win or lose, But WIN. =20 Dawda Jallow.2000 =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 03:34:17 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dawda Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: repost(replace) Comments: cc: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Diversity The sea is fair because it can Swallow up anyone, The sky is frank because it is Open to everyone, The earth is loving because it Allows anybody to dwell it, The people are pluralistic And someone has to be Diverse from you entirely, Then understanding is the Perseverance, and the Perseverance is the good World for the diversity. Dawda Jallow.2000 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 01:30:28 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ousainou Ngum <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: FWD: Libyans apprehended for attacking foreigners will be put on trial Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quite interesting! Keep wtiting my brother. On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 00:06:03 -0000, The Gambia and related-issues mailing list wrote: > SIDI > > THANX FOR THIS AFP ARTICLE. FOLKS IF YOU BELIEVE THE STORY OF THE TWO > SUDANESE RAPING A LIBYAN WOMAN/GIRL, THEN YOU DON'T KNOW HOW LIBYAN > PROPAGANDA WORKS OR FOR THAT MATTER HOW NEWS GETS DISSEMINATED. > > AGENCE FRANCE PRESSE IS NOT EXACTLY AN INDEPENDENT SOURCE OF NEWS. ITS JUST > THAT FRANCE'S EXPLOITATION OF VACUUMS CREATED BY SANCTION-ABIDING COMPANIES > AFFORDS AFP A MODICUM OF FREEDOM TO OPERATE IN LIBYA. > > SECONDLY, IF YOU THINK THESE HOODLUMS ARE GOING TO BE TRIED ACCORDING TO > UNDERSTOOD STANDARDS OF JUSTICE THEN YOU'D PROBABLY BELIEVE IT WHEN I TELL > YOU THAT I CROSSED THE ATLANTIC WALKING. > > YOU KNOW HOW ISRAEL BELIEVES (WITH GOOD REASON) THAT A JEW IS WORTH 10 > ARABS, THAT IS HOW LIBYANS VIEW THEIR BLACK COUNTERPARTS AND BLACK FROM > OTHER COUNTRIES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, GO SEE FOR YOURSELF. > > BOTTOMLINE, HE(GADDAFIDUCK) IS FEELING THE HEAT OF RE-ALIENATION AND WANTS > TO DO SOMETHING TO HOODWINK THE IDIOTS (AFRICAN HEADS OF STATE). > "THERE IS AN INVISIBLE FORCE BEHIND THE VIOLENCE" MY ARSE. > > > >From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > ><[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: FWD: Libyans apprehended for attacking foreigners will be put on > > trial > >Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:27:59 -0000 > > > > TRIPOLI, Nov 20 (AFP) - Libyans and others arrested for a recent batch > >of > >violent attacks upon foreigners will soon stand trial, Libyan Justice > >Minister > >Abdel Rahman al-Abbar vowed Monday. > > Seventy-five people, the majority of whom are Libyan, will be brought to > >trial for the deaths of six foreigners during riots last September that > >caused > >33,000 black Africans to flee Libya, Abbar told a press conference. > > "There will be public trials in the coming days to punish those > >implicated > >in these events. It is a matter of our honor and our national security," > >said > >Abbar. > > He added that the six dead consisted of a Libyan, two Nigerians, a > >Sudanese, and two Chadians. The fighting, which occurred in the town of > >Zawiyah, 40 kilometers (25 miles) west of Tripoli, had begun when a Libyan > >tried to stop two Sudanese from raping his sister. > > The minister emphasized that Libya still welcomed its ties with black > >Africa. "More than two million black Africans of different nationalities > >live > >side by side with the Libyan people without any incidents," he said. > > He blasted the Western media for exploiting the episode and alleged that > >there had "been an invisible hand responsible for the violence." > > Thousands of Africans have left Libya since the rioting. Upon returning > >to > >their home countries, some have said that dozens of people died in the > >violence. > > Abbar expressed regret for such allegations and warned Libya's former > >guests that it "is not right to treat the country that welcomes you in such > >a > >way." > > fac/np/mb > > > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ > >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > >http://explorer.msn.com > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >You may also send subscription requests to > >[log in to unmask] > >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your > >full name and e-mail address. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 04:52:27 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dawda Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Notice/ The word Ramadan Comments: cc: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friends, I won't be able to complete my analysis, due to time and too, much to do. Sorry for unrespoded mails. Dawda Jallow. "A word for the wise is quite sufficient" Fasting is prescribed in all previous religions. 1.Christianity,and 2.Judaism The root word for Ramadan means to "burn" in English, if translated,( i.e to burn our sins).(ref. Bliss) Three important benefits 1.Our sins are forgiven by Allah (SWT) 2.The mercy of ALLAH, The Most Merciful, will decend on us 3.Jannah (Paradise) is opened for us Comment:- No cash value to trade these benefits and isn't all. Recommendation:- Please! read about 'Ramadan' to get the essence which is The best to know any subject and to ask, too, before fasting, Or even whilst fasting through this blessed month. You will be proud to know alot after reading. Just give it a try and tell me the difference.(laugh) It don't mean you're uztaz, now. May Allah accept our "ibadah"(worship) and give us long lives And good health to worship HIM and to enjoy HIS infinite bounties. CORRECTION We tend to exalt this obligation(fasting) but Prayers(salah) should be first in order of importance. Wassalam Dawda. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 02:28:37 PST Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ousman Manjang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: May you have a happy and blessed Ramadan - from Ousman Manjang Hello! Ousman Manjang has just sent you a greeting card from Bluemountain.com. You can pick up your personal message here: http://www2.bluemountain.com/cards/box8642z/f89hss3zih4fuz.html Your card will be available for the next 90 days This service is 100% FREE! :) Have a good day and have fun! ________________________________________________________________________ Accessing your card indicates agreement with Blue Mountain's Website Rules: http://www.bluemountain.com/home/WebsiteRules.html Send FREE Blue Mountain greeting cards to friends and family http://www.bluemountain.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 14:21:29 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Saikou Samateh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bass, I did not have time to say much to you,but just to inform you that in = Badibu ,the only people who could not be found there are the Sarahulehs = and the reason is that when they came they were informed among other = things,that in Badibu we observe the fasting period twice in the year = ,they then did not even ask to stay,they move on and settled in Kiang in = the company of the Camaras,this is true story Bass,so take a break,the = fasting period is no big talk in Badibu,it is just a routine exercise. Have a nice time and say hallo to my sister. For Freedom Saiks ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bassirou Dodou Drammeh=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 4:11 PM Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message Prince, The group of potential WATER STEALERS during Ramadan is much = ,much larger than the one alluded below.Please,add to your list the = Badibunkers and the Ceasay Kundangkers!! Can you believe that a Badibunker old Pa once asked whether he could = do his Fasting during the nights of Ramadan so that by the time he woke = up every morning it would be breakfast as usual ?!!! If that were the case Ebrima Ceasay and his clansmen and women would = have nothing to worry about,would they? Regards, Basss **************************************************************** >From: Prince Obrien-Coker=20 >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list=20 >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: My Ramadan Message=20 >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:33:21 +0100=20 >MIME-Version: 1.0=20 >Received: from [149.68.45.24] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id = MHotMailBBE8466200124004315795442D1808CC4; Fri Nov 24 15:36:42 2000=20 >Received: from maelstrom.stjohns.edu (149.68.45.24) by = maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id = <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:36:15 -0500=20 >Received: from MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU by MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU = (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 377858 for = [log in to unmask]; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:36:09 -0500=20 >Received: from smtp1.a2000.nl (62.108.1.203) by maelstrom.stjohns.edu = (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id = <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:35:51 -0500=20 >Received: from node13c56.a2000.nl ([24.132.60.86] helo=3Dtommy1) by = smtp1.a2000.nl with smtp (Exim 2.02 #4) id 13zSNU-0004Yz-00 for = [log in to unmask]; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:35:37 +0100=20 >From [log in to unmask] Fri Nov 24 15:37:51 2000=20 >X-Priority: 3=20 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal=20 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400=20 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400=20 >Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]>=20 >Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list=20 >=20 > TO ALL MUSLIMS ON GAMBIA-L=20 >=20 >The Ramadan is at hand and I have no doubt that most of my Muslim = patriots will=20 >fully participate and I wish you all the strength and stamina to go = through it.=20 >However, I am wondering whether certain people will even start it, = since eating=20 >is their favourite pastime. I am talking about people like Sidi = Sanneh, Oussou=20 >Njie (Se=F1or), Ebou Khan (E.K.) and Omar Jallow (O.J.). I would like = to inform=20 >these people that being away from home does not, in any way, exempt = them from=20 >fasting . So please do what is expected of you.=20 >To the rest of my Muslim brothers and Sisters, I once more wish you = the=20 >endurance to see the month of Ramadan through.=20 >=20 >Prince=20 >=20 = >------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----=20 >=20 >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the = Gambia-L=20 >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html = >You may also send subscription requests to = [log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to = write your full name and e-mail address.=20 = >------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : = http://explorer.msn.com = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the = Gambia-L Web interface at: = http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send = subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you = have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your = full name and e-mail address. = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 15:40:02 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ismaila Oussou Njie <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re ndee ween natti MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to take the opportunity to wish all members of the = G,L,Non-Muslims,and Muslims alike.Gambians and Non Gambians alike a very = happy Ramadan and that ALLAH accept all our Prayers.NDEE WEEN = NATI>May we all live to see the next Ramadan,in Peace and Good = Health,,,,,,,,,,SENOR ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:01:52 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Preparing for Yahya Jammeh. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The coming months would be both decisive and pivotal. I am confidently predicting that Yahya Jammeh would be removed from office and his evil ways done away with once and for all. I know such a statement illicits a broad range of reactions from list members anywhere from a strong dose of skepticism to cautious optimism that this evil man can be removed. In Yahya today we find a creul but increasingly desperate man who is fully aware of his utter rejection by the Gambian people. In a bid to emerge from this politically fatal situation he is trying his underhanded methods of combining acts of terror and dictatorial benevolence to pacify his victims. This strategy no longer works as is evidenced by ordinary peoples' penchant to assert themselves and their rights. Even his Kangaroo courts aren't as reliable an instrument of his repression they once were. They are now imperfect and unpredictable and that is why the attorney general and government prosecutors have now pioneered an entirely new genre of legal practice: seeking case extensions into termination, figuring out that few judges would put up with prosecutors who can't and won't proceed with trial. Innocent people often end up saddled with legal fees and long separation from their families on trumped charges. Also adding to Yahya's predicament is the realization that he cannot under circumstances fail to schedule elections in as much as he would want to. He cannot govern the country if a declaration disenfranchising the population is made. The opposition UDP is already on record as saying that they would not accept postponement of elections under any circumstances and they would bring their supporters enmasse into the streets to resist an illegal power grap. Amat Bah of the NRP has urged his supporters to be vigilant along similar lines. I know PDOIS to be on record as urging strict adherence to the stipulations of the constitution leading me to a theoretical conclusion that they would in principle oppose any attempt at postponing elections. I don't know if they would choose to assert themselves on the streets or treat the Gambian people and the government of Yahya Jammeh to an elegant lecture of the law, philosophy and sociology. The first battle lines between the democratic forces constituting the opposition and the government of Yahya must be drawn on the issue of local government. The government has steadfastly refused to pass enabling legislation to comply with constitutionally mandated local government election. Instead they have chosen to impose administrative commissars in the name acting mayor and acting chiefs who have zero legitimacy in the eyes of the people they have been sent to rule over. They are political hacks purposely set up to compliment other conduits of government malfeasance such as the commissioners and auxiliary bureaucrats. All opposition parties ought to urge their supporters not to recognize these illegal office holders by refusing to send in their hard earn taxes to pirates and lackeys. The government has no capacity to go after hundreds of thousands of gambians asserting their rights. In a similar vein, if and when the government brings up the outrageous constitutional amendment proposal changing district chiefs from being elected to being appointed by the President, UDP, PDOIS and NRP should not dignify tabling the motion by even being present. They should vacate the house and let the Aprc members hatch their illegal plan and they should further urge their supporters not to recognize their own disenfranchisement. Yahya may think he can choose the people's chief but validating that choice rest squarely with the people to be governed. Where would all of this lead you ask? Well, simply to one direction: ungovernability. The people would have to choose between asserting their rights and dignity or surrendering to the whims and caprices of a thug who would soon turn them into a disposable possession to be used and discarded. Another possibility in the ongoing saga of our country would be that Yahya would reluctantly go to the pollsand with impending defeat he would decide to incite skirmishes and use that as a pretext to annul elections. In my opinion the opposition should still stick to their plan to massively bring their supporters out on the streets albeit with a different strategy. The combined strength of the opposition in the greater Banjul area is in the tens of thousands and in the face of an election highjack, there needs to be five massive gatherings consisting of thousands of people each. The first would comprise of group A from Brikama and it's surrounding environments upto and including yundum. Their objective would be to gather in their thousands and link hands and march up to the army Barracks in yundum, over run it and take it over. Yeah I can hear some of you expressing disbelieve that I am actually suggesting a bloodbath in the barracks of Yundum by asking unarmed civilians to march on the barracks of a largely unprofessional army. But I would remind you that a much bigger army and far more ruthless than the thugs we have in the past have been overwhelmed by defenseless civilians out on the right path. Besides it is far from certain that you would have the army in it's totality being predisposed to the kind waton violence it would have take to prevent thousands of people from marching on their barracks. Infact I am convinced a majority would not carry out orders to shoot at thousands of people. Once the camp is overrun, the objective would be to disarm the soldiers within and occupy the camp and persuade the erstwhile renegades to join the people in doing the right thing. Group B meanwhile would similarly take over the camp in Bakau with thousands from parts of Serrekunda closest to Bakau joining the people of that town to overrun that installation too.Again the objective is disarming and occupying. Remember in both Barracks the civilians are still unarmed. Meanwhile Group C would be in charge of Serrekunda ensuring that the police stations and the facilities of GRTS too are in the people's hands with a simple and reassuring message to the people that are being handed their elections and folks can come join the hand linking but that this was not be chaotic situation. No arms and no lawlessness. At this time the people would have to assume that Yahya is either in Banjul or Kanilai or some other safe house. In any case the approach to Banjul would have to be done on the assumption that it would entail the greatest danger. Like any tyrant Yahya has ensured that the Presidential guard has better and more firepower. Adding to that is the fact that the entire unit is composed of foreign mercenaries, and fierce personal loyalists who owe their undeserved privilege to only yahya . The Gambian people in their march to regain their government should not expect the Presidential guard to surrender. Group D and E would be a 5000 man people's militia who would have to be armed from the two Camps of Yundum and Bakau. They would have to fight an existential battle with the Presidential guard and capture the Capital city. If at the time of this final thrust Yahya is in Banjul then that might cap the people's march to freedom. If on the other hand he flees to Kanilai or it's surrounding bush then the people would have to shift the battle there. He might try to counter attack with the assortment of heavy weapons he has stashed in that hell hole of his. But again with fewer people he would loose that one too. There might be tactical flaws with the way I sequence events or much more dangers inherent than I discuss but I firmly believe that Yahya Jammeh would not prevail in a tussle with the Gambian people. He is an evil man and good always prevails.To be sure we the people would have paid the price for regaining our freedom, but in the process we would have laid the foundation for our nation to begin a new and better course. Our elected leaders would then have the monumental task of picking the pieces and provide good leadership. Their success or failure would depend on how we the ordinary Gambians remain engaged in fostering and save guarding our democracy. Karamba ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:43:14 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Preparing for Yahya Jammeh. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed FRIENDS, GAMBIANS, COUNTRYMEN, LEND KARAMBA YOUR EARS! FOR THE ENLIGHTENMENT IS NIGH! SOLDIERS' ACTIONS ARE ORGANIZED IN DELIVERY BY HEIRARCHICAL COMMAND. MOVEMENT IS FACILITATED BY GASOLINE OR DIESEL. MUNITIONS DEPOTS, AIR-TRAFFIC CONTROL, AND SEAWORTHY VESSELS ARE CRITICAL. SURVEY THE LAY OF THE LAND AND DISABLE FERRIES. INNA LLAH UHIBU LETHINA UKAATILUN FI SABILIHI SAFFAN, KA-ANNAHUM BUNYAANUN MARSUUS. A THAWRA SHA'ABIYYA WALIJAAN FI KULLI MAKAAN. ALLIANCES CONSOLIDATED-AAH! MOSCOW,BELGRADE, AND YAMOUSOUKRO CALLING. GIVE THEM AUDIENCE. LES JAMMEH VONT M'ENVOYER UN AUTRE. NYANKONKONG MAN TETOBENG NO. ATEL TAWTAA-LONNA BE TAMALA NYAMENG. SUNNU WARUGAL LA. A NYAA KANG MOGO? NBADDA? KOKUBOO? KATABUR KUUNYU. AGRICOLA FILIAM LAUDAT. >From: [log in to unmask] >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Preparing for Yahya Jammeh. >Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:01:52 EST > >The coming months would be both decisive and pivotal. I am confidently >predicting that Yahya Jammeh would be removed from office and his evil ways >done away with once and for all. I know such a statement illicits a broad >range of reactions from list members anywhere from a strong dose of >skepticism to cautious optimism that this evil man can be removed. In >Yahya >today we find a creul but increasingly desperate man who is fully aware of >his utter rejection by the Gambian people. In a bid to emerge from this >politically fatal situation he is trying his underhanded methods of >combining >acts of terror and dictatorial benevolence to pacify his victims. This >strategy no longer works as is evidenced by ordinary peoples' penchant to >assert themselves and their rights. Even his Kangaroo courts aren't as >reliable an instrument of his repression they once were. They are now >imperfect and unpredictable and that is why the attorney general and >government prosecutors have now pioneered an entirely new genre of legal >practice: seeking case extensions into termination, figuring out that few >judges would put up with prosecutors who can't and won't proceed with >trial. >Innocent people often end up saddled with legal fees and long separation >from >their families on trumped charges. >Also adding to Yahya's predicament is the realization that he cannot under >circumstances fail to schedule elections in as much as he would want to. He >cannot govern the country if a declaration disenfranchising the population >is >made. The opposition UDP is already on record as saying that they would not >accept postponement of elections under any circumstances and they would >bring their supporters enmasse into the streets to resist an illegal power >grap. Amat Bah of the NRP has urged his supporters to be vigilant along >similar lines. I know PDOIS to be on record as urging strict adherence to >the >stipulations of the constitution leading me to a theoretical conclusion >that >they would in principle oppose any attempt at postponing elections. I don't >know if they would choose to assert themselves on the streets or treat the >Gambian people and the government of Yahya Jammeh to an elegant lecture of >the law, philosophy and sociology. >The first battle lines between the democratic forces constituting the >opposition and the government of Yahya must be drawn on the issue of local >government. The government has steadfastly refused to pass enabling >legislation to comply with constitutionally mandated local government >election. Instead they have chosen to impose administrative commissars in >the >name acting mayor and acting chiefs who have zero legitimacy in the eyes >of >the people they have been sent to rule over. They are political hacks >purposely set up to compliment other conduits of government malfeasance >such >as the commissioners and auxiliary bureaucrats. All opposition parties >ought >to urge their supporters not to recognize these illegal office holders by >refusing to send in their hard earn taxes to pirates and lackeys. The >government has no capacity to go after hundreds of thousands of gambians >asserting their rights. In a similar vein, if and when the government >brings >up the outrageous constitutional amendment proposal changing district >chiefs >from being elected to being appointed by the President, UDP, PDOIS and NRP >should not dignify tabling the motion by even being present. They should >vacate the house and let the Aprc members hatch their illegal plan and they >should further urge their supporters not to recognize their own >disenfranchisement. Yahya may think he can choose the people's chief but >validating that choice rest squarely with the people to be governed. Where >would all of this lead you ask? Well, simply to one direction: >ungovernability. The people would have to choose between asserting their >rights and dignity or surrendering to the whims and caprices of a thug who >would soon turn them into a disposable possession to be used and discarded. >Another possibility in the ongoing saga of our country would be that Yahya >would reluctantly go to the pollsand with impending defeat he would decide >to >incite skirmishes and use that as a pretext to annul elections. In my >opinion >the opposition should still stick to their plan to massively bring their >supporters out on the streets albeit with a different strategy. The >combined >strength of the opposition in the greater Banjul area is in the tens of >thousands and in the face of an election highjack, there needs to be five >massive gatherings consisting of thousands of people each. The first would >comprise of group A from Brikama and it's surrounding environments upto and >including yundum. Their objective would be to gather in their thousands and >link hands and march up to the army Barracks in yundum, over run it and >take >it over. Yeah I can hear some of you expressing disbelieve that I am >actually >suggesting a bloodbath in the barracks of Yundum by asking unarmed >civilians >to march on the barracks of a largely unprofessional army. But I would >remind >you that a much bigger army and far more ruthless than the thugs we have in >the past have been overwhelmed by defenseless civilians out on the right >path. Besides it is far from certain that you would have the army in it's >totality being predisposed to the kind waton violence it would have take to >prevent thousands of people from marching on their barracks. Infact I am >convinced a majority would not carry out orders to shoot at thousands of >people. Once the camp is overrun, the objective would be to disarm the >soldiers within and occupy the camp and persuade the erstwhile renegades to >join the people in doing the right thing. Group B meanwhile would similarly >take over the camp in Bakau with thousands from parts of Serrekunda closest >to Bakau joining the people of that town to overrun that installation >too.Again the objective is disarming and occupying. Remember in both >Barracks >the civilians are still unarmed. Meanwhile Group C would be in charge of >Serrekunda ensuring that the police stations and the facilities of GRTS too >are in the people's hands with a simple and reassuring message to the >people >that are being handed their elections and folks can come join the hand >linking but that this was not be chaotic situation. No arms and no >lawlessness. >At this time the people would have to assume that Yahya is either in Banjul >or Kanilai or some other safe house. In any case the approach to Banjul >would >have to be done on the assumption that it would entail the greatest >danger. >Like any tyrant Yahya has ensured that the Presidential guard has better >and >more firepower. Adding to that is the fact that the entire unit is composed >of foreign mercenaries, and fierce personal loyalists who owe their >undeserved privilege to only yahya . The Gambian people in their march to >regain their government should not expect the Presidential guard to >surrender. Group D and E would be a 5000 man people's militia who would >have >to be armed from the two Camps of Yundum and Bakau. They would have to >fight >an existential battle with the Presidential guard and capture the Capital >city. If at the time of this final thrust Yahya is in Banjul then that >might >cap the people's march to freedom. If on the other hand he flees to Kanilai >or it's surrounding bush then the people would have to shift the battle >there. He might try to counter attack with the assortment of heavy weapons >he >has stashed in that hell hole of his. But again with fewer people he would >loose that one too. There might be tactical flaws with the way I sequence >events or much more dangers inherent than I discuss but I firmly believe >that >Yahya Jammeh would not prevail in a tussle with the Gambian people. He is >an >evil man and good always prevails.To be sure we the people would have paid >the price for regaining our freedom, but in the process we would have laid >the foundation for our nation to begin a new and better course. Our elected >leaders would then have the monumental task of picking the pieces and >provide >good leadership. Their success or failure would depend on how we the >ordinary Gambians remain engaged in fostering and save guarding our >democracy. >Karamba > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:54:51 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: momodou olly-mboge <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Preparing for Yahya Jammeh. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Well written piece Karamba, The imbecilic moron posturing himself as legitimate leader of people is finish. Yahya and his lackeys have sensed the feeling of the people. The failed meet the peoples tour plus the Sami election results are good indicators of the peoples readiness to rid themselves of this buffoon. No wonder APRC are resorting to what they know best-intimidation and terror. First, amend the constitution to give Yahya power to usurp the democratic rights of the people. How on earth does Yahya and his new lackey Nia Ceesay know that appointing chiefs is in the best interest of the electorate? It is obvious that this is another ploy to put more of Yahya's lackeys in power to further sink the country into the abyss. Second along Yahya's trajectory of self-destructing strategies is to concoct some imagined coup plot so as create the impression that the national security of the country is at stake. The APRC is held bend to create chaos in order to steal the coming elections. The APRC should know that in whatever shape or form they come they can't fool us. WE SHALL NOT BOW. WE SHALL OVERCOME> Keep up the struggle. MBoge >From: [log in to unmask] >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Preparing for Yahya Jammeh. >Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 12:01:52 EST > >The coming months would be both decisive and pivotal. I am confidently >predicting that Yahya Jammeh would be removed from office and his evil ways >done away with once and for all. I know such a statement illicits a broad >range of reactions from list members anywhere from a strong dose of >skepticism to cautious optimism that this evil man can be removed. In >Yahya >today we find a creul but increasingly desperate man who is fully aware of >his utter rejection by the Gambian people. In a bid to emerge from this >politically fatal situation he is trying his underhanded methods of >combining >acts of terror and dictatorial benevolence to pacify his victims. This >strategy no longer works as is evidenced by ordinary peoples' penchant to >assert themselves and their rights. Even his Kangaroo courts aren't as >reliable an instrument of his repression they once were. They are now >imperfect and unpredictable and that is why the attorney general and >government prosecutors have now pioneered an entirely new genre of legal >practice: seeking case extensions into termination, figuring out that few >judges would put up with prosecutors who can't and won't proceed with >trial. >Innocent people often end up saddled with legal fees and long separation >from >their families on trumped charges. >Also adding to Yahya's predicament is the realization that he cannot under >circumstances fail to schedule elections in as much as he would want to. He >cannot govern the country if a declaration disenfranchising the population >is >made. The opposition UDP is already on record as saying that they would not >accept postponement of elections under any circumstances and they would >bring their supporters enmasse into the streets to resist an illegal power >grap. Amat Bah of the NRP has urged his supporters to be vigilant along >similar lines. I know PDOIS to be on record as urging strict adherence to >the >stipulations of the constitution leading me to a theoretical conclusion >that >they would in principle oppose any attempt at postponing elections. I don't >know if they would choose to assert themselves on the streets or treat the >Gambian people and the government of Yahya Jammeh to an elegant lecture of >the law, philosophy and sociology. >The first battle lines between the democratic forces constituting the >opposition and the government of Yahya must be drawn on the issue of local >government. The government has steadfastly refused to pass enabling >legislation to comply with constitutionally mandated local government >election. Instead they have chosen to impose administrative commissars in >the >name acting mayor and acting chiefs who have zero legitimacy in the eyes >of >the people they have been sent to rule over. They are political hacks >purposely set up to compliment other conduits of government malfeasance >such >as the commissioners and auxiliary bureaucrats. All opposition parties >ought >to urge their supporters not to recognize these illegal office holders by >refusing to send in their hard earn taxes to pirates and lackeys. The >government has no capacity to go after hundreds of thousands of gambians >asserting their rights. In a similar vein, if and when the government >brings >up the outrageous constitutional amendment proposal changing district >chiefs >from being elected to being appointed by the President, UDP, PDOIS and NRP >should not dignify tabling the motion by even being present. They should >vacate the house and let the Aprc members hatch their illegal plan and they >should further urge their supporters not to recognize their own >disenfranchisement. Yahya may think he can choose the people's chief but >validating that choice rest squarely with the people to be governed. Where >would all of this lead you ask? Well, simply to one direction: >ungovernability. The people would have to choose between asserting their >rights and dignity or surrendering to the whims and caprices of a thug who >would soon turn them into a disposable possession to be used and discarded. >Another possibility in the ongoing saga of our country would be that Yahya >would reluctantly go to the pollsand with impending defeat he would decide >to >incite skirmishes and use that as a pretext to annul elections. In my >opinion >the opposition should still stick to their plan to massively bring their >supporters out on the streets albeit with a different strategy. The >combined >strength of the opposition in the greater Banjul area is in the tens of >thousands and in the face of an election highjack, there needs to be five >massive gatherings consisting of thousands of people each. The first would >comprise of group A from Brikama and it's surrounding environments upto and >including yundum. Their objective would be to gather in their thousands and >link hands and march up to the army Barracks in yundum, over run it and >take >it over. Yeah I can hear some of you expressing disbelieve that I am >actually >suggesting a bloodbath in the barracks of Yundum by asking unarmed >civilians >to march on the barracks of a largely unprofessional army. But I would >remind >you that a much bigger army and far more ruthless than the thugs we have in >the past have been overwhelmed by defenseless civilians out on the right >path. Besides it is far from certain that you would have the army in it's >totality being predisposed to the kind waton violence it would have take to >prevent thousands of people from marching on their barracks. Infact I am >convinced a majority would not carry out orders to shoot at thousands of >people. Once the camp is overrun, the objective would be to disarm the >soldiers within and occupy the camp and persuade the erstwhile renegades to >join the people in doing the right thing. Group B meanwhile would similarly >take over the camp in Bakau with thousands from parts of Serrekunda closest >to Bakau joining the people of that town to overrun that installation >too.Again the objective is disarming and occupying. Remember in both >Barracks >the civilians are still unarmed. Meanwhile Group C would be in charge of >Serrekunda ensuring that the police stations and the facilities of GRTS too >are in the people's hands with a simple and reassuring message to the >people >that are being handed their elections and folks can come join the hand >linking but that this was not be chaotic situation. No arms and no >lawlessness. >At this time the people would have to assume that Yahya is either in Banjul >or Kanilai or some other safe house. In any case the approach to Banjul >would >have to be done on the assumption that it would entail the greatest >danger. >Like any tyrant Yahya has ensured that the Presidential guard has better >and >more firepower. Adding to that is the fact that the entire unit is composed >of foreign mercenaries, and fierce personal loyalists who owe their >undeserved privilege to only yahya . The Gambian people in their march to >regain their government should not expect the Presidential guard to >surrender. Group D and E would be a 5000 man people's militia who would >have >to be armed from the two Camps of Yundum and Bakau. They would have to >fight >an existential battle with the Presidential guard and capture the Capital >city. If at the time of this final thrust Yahya is in Banjul then that >might >cap the people's march to freedom. If on the other hand he flees to Kanilai >or it's surrounding bush then the people would have to shift the battle >there. He might try to counter attack with the assortment of heavy weapons >he >has stashed in that hell hole of his. But again with fewer people he would >loose that one too. There might be tactical flaws with the way I sequence >events or much more dangers inherent than I discuss but I firmly believe >that >Yahya Jammeh would not prevail in a tussle with the Gambian people. He is >an >evil man and good always prevails.To be sure we the people would have paid >the price for regaining our freedom, but in the process we would have laid >the foundation for our nation to begin a new and better course. Our elected >leaders would then have the monumental task of picking the pieces and >provide >good leadership. Their success or failure would depend on how we the >ordinary Gambians remain engaged in fostering and save guarding our >democracy. >Karamba > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:06:29 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ousman Bojang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Preparing for Yahya Jammeh. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karamba, Well thought and calculated piece by a renown UDP memeber/sympathiser. Could I ask you if you are trying to lay the strategy from this end how the people should rise up when their rights have been violated? And is your view here shared by the UDP? Ousman Bojang. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 17:32:20 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ousman Bojang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: The Chieftancy Elections.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just read that the government is legally trying to have the constitution ammeneded so that the local Chiefs could be hand picked by the Head of State. I think it will be one of the greatest mistakes the govermnet will do if it has its way. It is like impossing on the people and it just does not work. if it does, it is just a matter of time before the people come to realise and may rise up so high. I am not a good historian, but I think the Nigerian history will be a very good lesson here for Jammeh. May be even the Brikama Imam crisis should be a lesson. A government does not impose local leaders. It is always a mistake. Ousman Bojang. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:44:11 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Bamba Laye Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ous>>Re: The Chieftancy Elections.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ous, Talk about mistakes committed by these morons. Count them all, put them is sacks and give the chief "dirimo" to carry...he will $#!^ his pants right before he can even move. Self distruct in the making, big time! A blessing in disguise for the oppressed. Let the boomerang roll. It's coming their way. You are right, the Brikama Imam incident should be an eye opener. But you know what, Yaya had many such eye openers. The problem is that he is such a buffoon. Normal people learn from theirs and others' mistakes. Not the walking demons amongst our midst. These people are becoming more and more disgusting! Abdoulie A. Jallow Toll-free number: 1-888-392-4832(Excite2) Personal extension for v/mail/fax: 291-368-1519 _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:57:47 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Preparing for Yahya Jammeh-Ous MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ousman, the opinions I espouse are my own since I do not speak for the UDP. Regarding your question, I believe freedom and the essential human rights associated it is what lies at the heart of what makes us Gambian. The people's objectives for reclaiming their government is a legitimate undertaking and that is why you will see them exercise it if this government decides to disenfranchise them. It is a good and worthwhile fight. Karamba ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:29:50 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Bamba Laye Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: RACISM - FLORIDA'S REAL SCANDAL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RACISM - FLORIDA'S REAL SCANDAL ____________________________________________________________________ THE VILLAGE VOICE Mondo Washington November 22 - 28, 2000 http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0047/ridgeway.shtml#chad by James Ridgeway When Joe Lieberman unctuously declared on Meet the Press Sunday morning that "every vote counts," he wasn't talking about the ballots not cast by African Americans, Haitians, and other minorities in Florida. In many respects, the untold story of the election lies not with the excited middle-class white Democrats of Palm Beach County, but with the thousands of black people who were turned away from the polls in a bizarre rerun of the segregated South before the Voting Rights Act. It is the most amazing irony of the election in that the black populations, which for years have formed the base of the Democratic Party--at least before the Democratic Leadership Council took over--were prevented from voting with amazingly little protest from the party bigwigs. These voters could easily have carried the vice president to victory in Florida. And, of course, the Republicans--who now are the real Southern Democrats--have refrained from even mentioning the subject. Not only were many blacks blocked from ballot access in Florida, but the Gore team apparently ignored them on election day. Campaign boss Bill Daley's main goal seems to have been to count and recount the votes of Palm Beach County, which the vice president won by 140,000 votes. Not once did Daley ask for a new election so these disenfranchised black citizens could vote. And only as an afterthought did he even raise the possibility of recounting all the votes in the state. In fact, the most vigorous proponent of a state recount has been Nebraska Republican senator Chuck Hagel. One thing now seems clear: On election day, many white Florida election officials were doing their utmost to make sure blacks and other minorities didn't vote. That's the real scandal in Florida. The NAACP, which continues to pile up testimony from African Americans who say they were disenfranchised, wants the U.S. Justice Department to investigate the situation. "This is a corrupted, tainted process, an attempt to steal an election," Reverend Jesse Jackson said last week. Among the claims: * That African Americans received phone calls the weekend before the election from people who claimed to be with the NAACP, urging them to vote for Bush. (Similar calls were reported in Michigan and Virginia.) * That roadblocks were set up a few hundred yards from voting places in Volusia County. Police stopped cars and ordered black men to get out of their vehicles and produce identification. (The Justice Department is reviewing the complaints to determine whether they amount to violations of law.) * That the morning after the election, employees at four predominantly black Miami-area schools which had been used as polling sites found stuffed ballot boxes, which apparently had not been counted. (The boxes were sent to elections officials.) * That, in a maneuver that smacks of the civil rights fights in the old South, substantial numbers of blacks were turned away from polling booths in various parts of the state. In Hillsborough County, sheriff's deputies who checked voter IDs allegedly claimed that the race of the prospective voters--which is listed on Florida voter ID cards--didn't match the race of the person standing in front of them. "I can't tell you how many times it happened," Sheila Douglas of the NAACP told the Sarasota Herald-Tribune, "but it happened more often than not." (In addition, Nizam Arain, who works with Jackson's team of investigators, claimed black men in Hillsborough County were turned away from polling places as convicted felons, even though such proof was lacking. Jackson later said some black voters in the county were told there were no more ballots or that polls were closed.) * That in largely Republican Duval County about 27,000 people were disqualified when they attempted to vote. More than 12,000 disqualifications came from four districts that are mostly African American. "While I expected some complaints, it struck me . . . that this was startling in its scope and size," said Penda Hair, director of the Advancement Project, which advocates social and racial justice. "It seems that in counties across Florida, voters who were qualified were turned away at the polls. It was a denial of the right to vote that seemed to be concentrated in African American precincts." Additional reporting: Rouven Gueissaz and Theresa Crapanzano This story is part of the Village Voice's ongoing 2000 presidential election coverage. http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/powertrip2000/ Copyright 2000 The Village Voice. All rights reserved. _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 19:59:35 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Bamba Laye Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Beginning of Ramadan Announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI, Here's a treat for the yetteh Bahs...Alasana, Alfu, Yunusa...no excuses thi= s time. may Allah accept our prayers in this Holy month. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Beginning of Ramadan Announcement "Oh ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you, that ye may (learn) self-restraint," Quran 2:183=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- IslamiCity, November 25, 2000: The Higher Judiciary Council in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has announced that Ramadan 1, 1421 will start at sunset time on Sunday, November 26, 2000. The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), in consultation with the Fiqh Council of North America, has also confirmed the same starting date fo= r this month. Therefore, the first day of fasting of Ramadan will insha'Allah be Monday, November 27, 2000. For those interested in sighting the crescent, the available data indicates that the moon's conjunction will occur on November 25, 2000, at 11:12 pm Universal Time, i.e., 3:12 pm Pacific Standard Time. Hence, moon sighting i= s impossible on November 25. Furthermore, it will be 28th of Sha=92ban on November 25. On November 26, the moon=92s age will be 25 to 28 hours in Nor= th America. This moon will, insha=92Allah, be seen in North America. It will b= e relatively easier to see in southwestern region of North America, and difficult to see in northern states. In its continuous efforts to bringing the Muslim Ummah together and by usin= g the most advanced technologies, IslamiCity is pleased to broadcast, for the third consecutive year, the daily prescribed and Taraweeh prayers live from Makkah and Madina. For the viewers whose schedules don't permit them to view the Taraweeh prayers Live, the prayers will be recorded for on-demand view. Visit IslamiCity's Ramadan Information Center at: www.IslamiCity.Com/Ramada= n =20 _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 00:33:31 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Movement for the Restoration of Democracy in Gambia <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Preparing for Yahya Jammeh. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Point well taken and acceptable. I know, Yahya spends a lot of sleepless nights, in fear of what's coming to him. You're right Brother, the key is mass organization/mobilization/cordination and protest. I read a book last year by the renown African thinker/scholar, George B. N. Ayittey: 'AFRICA IN CHAOS' {Each and every Gambian or African concerned about military/despot/kleptocratic ruler's in Africa, should read this book]. Mr. Ayittey summed up your suggestion/scenarios as the "Serbian Syndrome" a la slobdan Milosevic>Pro-democracy activists on the streets of Belgrade. In the last chapter, 'epilogue and conclusion,' some serious observations and commandments were noted: WOLE SOYINKA [1966, 59] All symbols of military authority must be removed from our midst. Those arrogant photographs that desecrate public spaces, hospitals, offices, even courts of justice. street names, also, change them all. Remove them. remove them by stealth, remove them openly, by cunning, remove them by bribery, remove them forcibly, remove them tactfully, use whatever method is appropriate, but remove them. I call on all who are resolve to play a role in our mutual liberation to participate in this exercise of psychological release, or mental cleansing and preparedness. CHINUA ACHEBE African News Weekly [October 1, 1993, 2] One of the most urgent matters for Nigerians to address when they settle down to debate the National Question is the issue of collaboration by professionals and technocrats with corrupt and repressive regimes. We must devise effective sanctions against our lawyers, judges, doctors and university professors who debase their professions in their zealotry to serve as tyranny's errand-boys, thus contributing in large measures to the general decay of honesty and integrity in our national life. The recent arrest[s] and charges of intent to overthrow his, Yahya Jammeh's regime, African Women/Sisters [civilians in their own rights], speaks of the utter disregard of common sense in these moronic-thugs. Yahya Jammeh, T*I*N*A* [THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE]. We will hold you responsible for all atrocities committed on Gambian Women and children. At first, you went for Koro Ceesay, we said nothing; you went for the soldieries, we said nothing; You ordered the massacre of demonstrating children, we started mobilizing/protesting against your brutality; now you're going for our sisters and mothers, we will hunt you down by any means necessary..you will never rest in peace. Keep organizing...making history...winning victory! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:51:38 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Lamine Conteh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Preparing for Yahya Jammeh-Ous MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Mr. Karamba Touray: Please continue on the good work you are doing. I for one, do not care whether you are the National President of UDP. Our responsibility is for a yahyaless Gambia. Naphiyo, Comrade ML Jassey-Conteh > [Original Message] > From: <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Date: 11/26/00 6:58:09 PM > Subject: Re: Preparing for Yahya Jammeh-Ous > > Ousman, > the opinions I espouse are my own since I do not speak for the > UDP. Regarding your question, I believe freedom and the essential human > rights associated it is what lies at the heart of what makes us Gambian. The > people's objectives for reclaiming their government is a legitimate > undertaking and that is why you will see them exercise it if this government > decides to disenfranchise them. It is a good and worthwhile fight. > Karamba > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Lamine Conteh --- [log in to unmask] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:28:27 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: saul khan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Fwd: News of the Weird(.662) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed something to chuckle about... >LEAD STORIES > >In September, driving-school owner Bharat Patel, 49, became the 31st >person convicted in a driver's-license bribery scandal at a Chicago >examining >station. According to testimony, Patel did not even bother to teach and >spent >all his time with examiners. Some of Patel's students were such bad drivers >that examiners, who took $300,000 in bribes in two years, actually gave >Patel >his money back. Some subsequently licensed drivers did not know how to >start a >car or engage the transmission; others turned directly into traffic during >the >test; and sometimes, terrified examiners halted the test mid-trip and >hitchhiked back to the station. > >Federal wildlife officials believe that the voracious and largely >indestructible Asian swamp eel has somehow made its way to within a mile of >Florida's Everglades National Park and poses an imminent threat to its >balance >of nature, according to a September Wall Street Journal report. The >3-foot-long eel apparently eats anything in its path, has no known enemies, >survives in salt- and fresh water and on land, can change genders in order >to >facilitate year-round breeding, lays 1,000 eggs at a time, and is so >durable >that one lived in a wet towel for seven months with no food or water. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Recent Nude Activities > >Protesting taxes (Actress "Dziewanna" rode, Lady Godiva-style, through >Krakow, >Poland, in July). Bicycling for charity (Three men and a woman were >arrested >in Vernal, Utah, wearing only helmets, in July). Burglarizing a house >(Dwight >Mills, 38, set off by the receipt of divorce papers, took off his clothes >and >broke into a neighbor's house before being gunned down, Pensacola, Fla., >July). Celebrating a soccer "victory" (In August, a nude fan joyously >rushed >onto the field and around the sidelines in the final moments of a 2-1 game, >but he apparently also distracted his own Blackpool, England, team, because >Torquay scored two quick goals to win, 3-2). > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >The Litigious Society > >Helene Canuel filed a lawsuit in August against the Rimouski (Quebec) >Minor Hockey Association, asking about $700 (U.S.) in damages, because the >coach of her 14-year-old son benched him for the playoffs. Canuel said she >just wanted "justice for my son," but the coach was apparently more >interested >in surviving the single-elimination tournament. > >In June, a school district in Orange County, Calif., was ordered by a >jury to pay $1.4 million to Taylor Steiskal, age 10, who three years ago >fell >off his school's monkey bars and broke his arm, which developed further >complications and has required eight surgeries. Steiskal's lawyers argued >that >monkey bars for children should be no higher than 72 inches off the ground >(thus giving a few inches' ground-clearance for a 48-inch-high boy hanging >from his hands); the one Steiskal fell from was 79 inches high. > >Anne and Lucy Abolins filed a $4 million lawsuit in May against the >owners of the house they formerly rented in Edmonton, Alberta, from which >their 114 cats were confiscated by health inspectors, who ruled in June >1999 >that the feces-laden dwelling was uninhabitable. Contrary to neighbors' >claims >that the Abolinses had lowered their neighborhood's value, the sisters now >say >that their own lives were ruined by the health inspectors and that >notoriety >has made it impossible for them to find new living quarters. (In August >2000, >a judge fined the sisters about $3,500 (U.S.) for housing code violations, >and >Lucy Abolins then called the SPCA "the Antichrist" for taking her cats >away.) > >In September, a jury in Tacoma, Wash., ordered the state Department of >Corrections to pay $22 million to the family of a woman killed when a >convicted felon (domestic assault) on probation ran a red light and hit the >woman's car, concluding that the department somehow ought to have >supervised >the man better. The governor's office said it would appeal the verdict, >questioning the state's ability to monitor the driving behavior of its >55,000 >probationers 24 hours a day. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Not My Fault > >According to an Associated Press report in August, quoting lawyers close >to the case, the Catholic Diocese of Nashville, Tenn., planned to use the >defense of "comparative fault" in two lawsuits filed by boys who claimed to >have been sexually molested by former priest Edward McKeown. Such a defense >would allow the church to reduce its damages by showing that other people >had >knowledge of McKeown's continued abuse and did not warn authorities of it. >Among those other people the church regards as culpable are the 21 other >victims who were abused but remained silent. > >Paralyzed inmate Torrence Johnson filed a lawsuit in July against the >Spartanburg (S.C.) County Jail because guards failed to stop him in 1998 >when >he was whimsically doing backflips off a desk in his cell, the last one of >which resulted in a fall and his subsequent paralysis. Johnson claims >guards >should have been watching him carefully because he had been diagnosed as >depressed, although they said he appeared to be vigorous until he landed on >his neck. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >People Who Can't Catch a Break > >Mark Sims, 24, filed a lawsuit in August against Ottawa (Ontario) Civil >Hospital, alleging that a misdiagnosis (of cancer) caused a doctor to >remove >one of his testicles, which at that time was the size of a "baseball." Sims >now says it was obvious that the swollen testicle was not cancerous but >merely >the result of an office-party jaunt to a strip club, a visit during which >Sims >ultimately found himself onstage with a dancer, who "suddenly, without >warning" whacked his scrotum. Sims says that if the doctor had waited until >his testicle shrank to its normal size, he would still have both testicles. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Recurring Themes > >Last year, News of the Weird reported that a Bombay, India, collection >agency >had hired six eunuchs to hang around the homes and offices of obstinate >debtors to embarrass them into paying up. According to a July 2000 report >in >London's The Guardian, the Tsaisheng credit agency in Taiwan has begun >hiring >AIDS patients at about $100 (U.S.) a day for the same purpose. According to >the agency owner, many people in Taiwan still believe that AIDS is >transmitted >through mere social contact. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Least Competent Criminals > >Sherman Lee Parks, 50, escaped from the Dallas County Jail in Fordyce, >Ark., >in August, oblivious of the fact that a judge had just ordered his release >because he had been locked up too long; he was rearrested the next day, >charged with escaping, and jailed. And in September, according to police in >Shawnee, Kan., a 19-year-old clerk at a Texaco Starmart reported he had >been >robbed, but actually he had just looted his own cash register, and to >conceal >the crime, he had put tape over the store's surveillance cameras. However, >he >had used transparent tape; said a police lieutenant, "(I)t looks a little >fuzzy, but I don't see any robbery in there." > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Also, in the Last Month ... > >Water and health officials were mystified at the continued appearance of >half-inch-long red worms in the tap of a Deltona, Fla., woman but after >tests, >declared the water safe. A mayoral candidate in Vlore, Albania, promised >that, >if elected, he would re-open the city's long-shuttered brothels. Officials >in >Cairo, Egypt, began implementing a 20-year program to relocate 21 >cemeteries >(with 109,000 graves) to the suburbs. When an arrested stripper on >pre-trial >release argued that wearing an ankle monitor on stage would hamper her act, >the judge relented and dropped that condition (Cleveland). _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Thousands of men >descend >on farmers in Shandong province each summer, seeking crickets of the proper >physique and character to endure rough matches inside 8-inch-wide plastic >containers. Matches end when one contestant tries to flee or gets tossed >around hopelessly by the other. > >The University of Surrey (Guildford, England) announced in October >that it was adding to its curriculum in service-sector management by >appointing a professor of airline food. A Surrey official said the school >intended to beef up its graduate and undergraduate course offerings in >in-flight catering and told The Guardian newspaper that the professor would >be >appointed from either the field of gastronomy (how food is served) or the >field of food science (concentrating, for example, on freshness). > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Middle Fingers in the News > >Janet Woods, the acting principal of Strong Vincent High School in Erie, >Pa., >angry at reporters' questions about a rumored gun incident, allegedly >displayed a middle finger and told camera operators to "Shoot this!" >(August). >And in Chiang Mai, Thailand, Kamol Kaewmora, 50, recipient of the gesture, >was >arrested and charged with shooting to death the 41-year-old German >motorcyclist who had displayed it to him (August). In August, a state court >in >Lancaster County, Pa., and a federal court in Fayetteville, Ark., dismissed >criminal charges against people who had made the gesture, and the Arkansas >judge in fact ruled the defendant's right to flip the bird at a state >trooper >was protected by the U.S. Constitution. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Oops! > >Newcastle, England, body piercer Lorna Larson accidentally hit a vein >while working on the tongue of Gemma Danielson, 18, in July and by the time >Danielson got to the hospital, she had lost four pints of blood. Said >Danielson, "(Doctors) said they had never seen anything like it." Larson >said >she was mortified: "That's the last tongue I do." > >Joseph Pileggi, 69, filed a lawsuit in Akron, Ohio, in July seeking >money damages over his 1997 marriage to Carli Buchanan, 61. He claims he >intended to marry not Buchanan, but his long-time girlfriend, who is >Buchanan's mother, Ducile Palermo, 83. He claimed that he did not realize >until May 1999 that the "wrong" woman's name was on the license (despite >Buchanan's insistence that Pileggi consummated the marriage with her on the >wedding night). > >Latest Highway Truck Spills: 26 alligator carcasses, weighing nearly >5 tons (headed for a processing plant near Fort Lauderdale, Fla., October); >U.S. Army Multiple Launch rockets (from a military truck, adjacent to an >elementary school near Hugo, Okla., August); and a load of completed >Advanced >Placement tests (being taken from a New York City testing center to >Educational Testing Service in New Jersey, of which 84 were never >recovered, >thus hindering those students' college careers, May). > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Adventures in Ignorance > >In August, Davidson, N.C., police officer Scott Searcy asked to search a >woman's car for drugs, giving as his legally required basis ("reasonable >suspicion") solely the fact that on the front seat was a copy of the weekly >newspaper Creative Loafing, whose cover story on local drug enforcement was >illustrated by a photo of a marijuana plant. Said Assistant Chief Butch >Parker, "(Searcy) thinks he had reasonable suspicion, and we do, too." (The >woman consented to the search, and nothing illegal was found.) > >In July, Rev. Nelson W. Koscheski, a delegate from Dallas to the national >Episcopal convention in Denver, was seen scattering salt under the tables >of >openly gay and lesbian delegates. According to some authorities, tossing >the >salt is a symbolic gesture to rid the premises of Satan. After some >participants expressed their outrage, Rev. Koscheski resigned as a >delegate. > >Lisa Alger of Roy, Wash., had to take her claim all the way to state >judge Paul Treyz in June, but she finally got a dismissal of one of the >municipal citations against her for housing an unlicensed cat named >"Patches." >Reason: "Patches" is a stuffed animal. (The local Humane Society monitors >for >violations of licensing law by knocking on doors and asking kids the names >of >their pets, so it can check license lists. When Alger's 7-year-old son >mentioned the highly regarded "Patches," and the Humane Society found no >license for it, it wrote Alger up without investigating.) >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Payback > >Jail guards employed by the Nova Scotia government had their "privilege" of >being able to eat free in the inmates' dining room taken away in July >because >of budget cuts and must now pay $2.50 to get their prison meal. And >Brazilian >multimillionaire Jair Coelho, 68, was arrested in August and locked up >before >trial; he had made a fortune on the country's jail contracts, supplying >nearly >inedible food, but the government proved that he got the contracts through >bribery, and thus he must now eat his own food. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Recurring Themes > >News of the Weird mentioned in 1999 that the Safety Tanteisha detective >agency >in Osaka, Japan, was selling about 200 aerosol spray kits a month (at $400 >each) to help women find out whether their men are having affairs, by >detecting the presence of fresh semen on their underwear. In July 2000, >according to a Phoenix New Times report, a venerable local medical lab has >introduced Forensex, which charges spouses and lovers from $350 up to test >partners' underwear for semen (hers, to see if sperm is present; his, to >see >if he has ejaculated at inappropriate times). > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >The Only Way Out > >In August, a 20-year-old man who worked at a landscaping business in >Phoenix >proposed to his girlfriend (she accepted), took her to the worksite, turned >on >a woodchipper, climbed in, and tried to pull her in, too. He was killed, >but >she escaped. Also in August, the style and etiquette columnist for The >Times >of London was found dead, clad only in a shirt, beneath his fourth-floor >apartment window, but colleagues said the suicide scenario was too tacky >for >the man. Said one friend, "(H)e'd have wanted to be really dressed >appropriately." Said the coroner, "It would be likely that he would write a >letter to explain, and no doubt on the Smythson's notepaper that was found >in >the (apartment)." > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Also, in the Last Month ... > >The new head of a Hudson River environmental organization, on a >well-publicized maiden kayaking voyage around New York City, discovered a >floating corpse. A Zambian man was granted a divorce after testimony that >his >wife routinely locked him in the bedroom at night to stop his philandering >(Lusaka, Zambia). Police said two burglary suspects, left alone briefly in >a >stationhouse storage/interview room, stole some Twizzlers and the change >from >the office coffee fund box (Albuquerque). Police-dog trainee Ben, let out >of a >squad car on a rural road to relieve himself, picked up the scent of a >nearby, >125-plant marijuana field (Perkins Township, Maine). > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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According >to >an October New York Times report, however, the station's policy is that any >news of President Putin or other leading officials must be delivered while >fully clothed. > >A Quebec-based sect, the Raelians, announced in September that it would >start >work immediately, in an unidentified Third World country's laboratory, >toward >cloning a human being, specifically the American girl who died recently at >the >age of 10 months and whose parents paid the Raelians $500,000 to duplicate >her. According to a Princeton University researcher, the technology exists >right now to carry out the work within a year. Founder "Rael" (the former >Claude Vorilhon) believes that all humans are clones of extraterrestrials >and >says Raelians could eventually offer a cloning service for about $200,000. > > >Electric Chair Mania! > >"Rides" called "The Original Shocker" at a Rockville, Md., arcade and "The >Electric Chair Game" at various parks in Italy are simulated fatal >experiences >in a death-row electric chair, from the strapping-in to the controlled dose >of >electricity (voluntarily administered, enough to cause heavy vibrations) to >the sound of sizzling juice to the cloud of smoke, and capped by a flat >line >on a heartbeat monitor. "Winning" involves staying in the chair until the >machine declares you dead; losers release the electrodes early. And among >America's best-selling toys last summer was Death-Row Marv (McFarlane Toys, >$24.99), in which a man strapped into an electric chair trash-talks his >"executioner," almost begging to be lit up with more jolts of electricity. > > >Unclear on the Concept > >State officials near Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, issued $100 citations in August >to >two drivers whose U.S. Government water trucks were on their way to fight >the >Montana fires. The officials discovered that the trucks exceeded the >highway >weight limit of 17 tons (by 1 and 2 tons, respectively). According to the >Helena Independent Record newspaper, the trucks were permitted to head out >to >the front lines only after they had dumped enough water to satisfy the >inspectors. > >In a video outtake mistakenly telecast on a Cape Cod (Massachusetts) >public-access cable channel on July 31, the organizer of a cat-adoption >service was shown being yelled at by her cameraman-husband (who was >off-camera) to get the adoptable cat she was offering to stop squirming >during >the taping. One viewer told the Cape Cod Times, "The (cameraman) must have >used the 'F' word 50 times, along with verbal threats to the kitten (to >strangle it)." > > >Schemes > >In July, a federal grand jury in Charlotte, N.C., indicted 18 people in an >interstate cigarette-smuggling ring (profitable because of the wide >disparity >in state taxes), accepting the government's evidence that at least part of >the >motivation for the scheme was to raise money for the Lebanese terrorist >organization Hezbollah. > >Cristal Campbell, 29, was re-arrested on July 12 in Boston after pulling a >prank to escape and spending five days on the lam. At a court hearing on >July >7, she urinated on the floor but claimed that she was pregnant and that her >"water had broken" and thus was rushed to a hospital by concerned court >personnel (most of whom were males who accepted her claim uncritically). >Campbell is wanted on more than 50 con-artist warrants, and indeed, after >court personnel took her to the hospital on July 7, she escaped twice more >before her July 12 capture. > > >Cliches Come to Life > >Yell What in a Crowded Theater?: In June, Sasha Aleksandr McClain Coe, 22, >was >charged with reckless endangerment in Sevierville, Tenn., after setting off >a >string of firecrackers in a theater during the movie "The Patriot." The 78 >panicked patrons struggled angrily to get out the doors but once outside, >they >surrounded Coe and held him for the police. > >Man Bites Dog: Richard Nelson, 40, fleeing on foot after being stopped in a >stolen car, found his arm in the grip of Bear, a Canton, Ohio, police dog, >and >decided to retaliate by biting the dog on the nose to get it to loosen its >grip. Instead, Nelson's bite caused Bear to tighten its jaw, so hard in >fact >that one of Bear's teeth broke off in Nelson's arm and had to be surgically >removed. > > >In Their Own Words > >John Roberts (executive director of the Massachusetts chapter of the >American >Civil Liberties Union, commenting in the Chicago Sun-Times on the ACLU's >support for the speech rights of the North American Man-Boy Love >Association, >which is being sued by a Massachusetts couple as having inspired a >pedophile >to rape their son): "My wife's an early-childhood educator. (Because of the >ACLU's position) I was expecting to find my clothes out on the lawn when I >got >home." > > >Update > >Innocent Middle-Named Waynes? In July, CBS News and three newspapers >jointly >offered to underwrite DNA testing of an already-executed man to determine >whether, for the first known instance in U.S. history, the judicial system >had >put an innocent man to death. The subject of the test would be the Perry, >Ga., >man convicted on conflicting evidence of a 1981 rape-murder and executed in >1996, and who made News of the Weird because of his name: Ellis Wayne >Felker. >Also, in August, Texas Gov. George W. Bush issued a pardon to convicted >rapist >Roy Wayne Criner (the victim was also murdered, but Criner was charged only >with the rape) because his DNA did not match that found on the victim, as >reported in News of the Weird in July 2000. > > >Least Competent Criminals > >Traffic patrol officers often find that a suspected drunk driver will try >to >switch seats with a passenger after a stop, before the officer can reach >the >car. However, that strategy succeeds only if the passenger is more sober >than >the driver. In July, police in Lake City, Tenn., witnessed a >driver-passenger >switch, but it did not matter because both failed sobriety tests (along >with >the two people in the back seat). And in August, Hackensack, N.J., police >stopped a weaving van to discover an open bottle of Scotch, an impaired >20-year-old man in the driver's seat, and an impaired 22-year-old man >sitting >in his lap; apparently, the two men got stuck trying to execute the seat >switch. > > >Also, in the Last Month ... > >A female placekicker who was cut from the Duke University football team won >$2 >million when a jury attributed her release primarily to her gender, despite >evidence that several competitors were better kickers. Two prison guards >were >indicted for smuggling out sperm belonging to organized-crime inmates, who >recently became fathers despite their long incarcerations (White Deer, >Pa.). >The Tampa Bay Devil Rays apologized to members of a local high school band, >who were to play the national anthem on the last day of the season, for >requiring them to buy tickets to get into the ballpark. A 54-year-old >ex-Marine stabbed his new son-in-law (Air Force) during a heated discussion >of >which military service is best (Linwood Township, Minn.). _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Can someone please provide me with a current schedule for this year's Ramadan? I live in Ohio and I understand we break fast at different times. Please let me know if there is a website where I can get the information. Thanks and have a blessed Ramadan. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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The real people afraid of Fasting are as follows :Kamaras, Fattys,Mannehs ,Singhatehs ,Kassama-Jabbis,and foremost the Jammehs. Saikou Samateh ,there is a Sarahule in Stockholm called Saikou Touray selling "MANKANASO"I guest you would like some . DARBOE ----- Original Message ----- From: Saikou Samateh <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 3:21 PM Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message Bass, I did not have time to say much to you,but just to inform you that in Badibu ,the only people who could not be found there are the Sarahulehs and the reason is that when they came they were informed among other things,that in Badibu we observe the fasting period twice in the year ,they then did not even ask to stay,they move on and settled in Kiang in the company of the Camaras,this is true story Bass,so take a break,the fasting period is no big talk in Badibu,it is just a routine exercise. Have a nice time and say hallo to my sister. For Freedom Saiks ----- Original Message ----- From: Bassirou Dodou Drammeh To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 4:11 PM Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message Prince, The group of potential WATER STEALERS during Ramadan is much ,much larger than the one alluded below.Please,add to your list the Badibunkers and the Ceasay Kundangkers!! Can you believe that a Badibunker old Pa once asked whether he could do his Fasting during the nights of Ramadan so that by the time he woke up every morning it would be breakfast as usual ?!!! If that were the case Ebrima Ceasay and his clansmen and women would have nothing to worry about,would they? Regards, Basss **************************************************************** >From: Prince Obrien-Coker >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: My Ramadan Message >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:33:21 +0100 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [149.68.45.24] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBBE8466200124004315795442D1808CC4; Fri Nov 24 15:36:42 2000 >Received: from maelstrom.stjohns.edu (149.68.45.24) by maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:36:15 -0500 >Received: from MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU by MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 377858 for [log in to unmask]; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:36:09 -0500 >Received: from smtp1.a2000.nl (62.108.1.203) by maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:35:51 -0500 >Received: from node13c56.a2000.nl ([24.132.60.86] helo=tommy1) by smtp1.a2000.nl with smtp (Exim 2.02 #4) id 13zSNU-0004Yz-00 for [log in to unmask]; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:35:37 +0100 >From [log in to unmask] Fri Nov 24 15:37:51 2000 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 >Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> >Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > > TO ALL MUSLIMS ON GAMBIA-L > >The Ramadan is at hand and I have no doubt that most of my Muslim patriots will >fully participate and I wish you all the strength and stamina to go through it. >However, I am wondering whether certain people will even start it, since eating >is their favourite pastime. I am talking about people like Sidi Sanneh, Oussou >Njie (Señor), Ebou Khan (E.K.) and Omar Jallow (O.J.). I would like to inform >these people that being away from home does not, in any way, exempt them from >fasting . So please do what is expected of you. >To the rest of my Muslim brothers and Sisters, I once more wish you the >endurance to see the month of Ramadan through. > >Prince > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:18:52 +0100 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Momodou-Alieu Darboe <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Help! Schedule for the Ramadan. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brother Mam Jay Ceesay,contact the Islamic Center of Athens,Ohio . 13 Stewart Street Athens, Ohio 45701 .Tel:-614-594-3890 ,Fax(614)592-2336 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mam Jay Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Help! Schedule for the Ramadan. > Can someone please provide me with a current schedule for this year's > Ramadan? I live in Ohio and I understand we break fast at different times. > Please let me know if there is a website where I can get the information. > > Thanks and have a blessed Ramadan. > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:38:56 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD: Guinea Bissau village stormed by army hunting renegade general Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed by Tidiane Sy QUINHAMEL, Guinea-Bissau, Nov 27 (AFP) - This sleepy little Guinea Bissau village was still in shock Monday after guns and uniforms flooded its streets and the army threatened to shell the place where the leader of last week's army mutiny was thought to be hiding. Quinhamel has been bristling with soldiers hunting rebel General Ansumane Mane, who declared himself head of the army but was forced to flee the capital Bissau, 40 kilometres (25 miles) away, when a bid openly to defy the elected president turned sour. "I haven't had a wink of sleep for the last five days," said the town's governor, Daniel Souleymane Embalo, whose house was surrounded by around 50 well-armed troops. "The inhabitants of Quinhamel are not used to seeing soldiers," the governor explained. "When one of them comes near the house, even if it's just to ask for a glass of water, the children run away." Clustered in front of their houses and in the streets, the locals were watching the "foreigners" who have taken over their town and who, on Saturday, threatened to shell it to shake out the hiding rebel leader, whose whereabouts have led to contradictory statements from Bissau authorities. Mane, a former military ruler, proclaimed himself army chief and "supreme commander" of a revived junta last Monday, but fled to Quinhamel, according to some sources in the armed forces, after loyalist forces overcame his men in fighting on Wednesday and Thursday that fighting 10 dead. While the whereabouts of the general remained uncertain, members of his family, including his wife, were brought back to Bissau from Quinhamel on Sunday. The renegade soldier ousted one head of state in May 1999 then ran a junta in parallel with a transitional adminstration until standing down last February in favour of elected President Kumba Yala - whose government this weekend denied that a witch-hunt was now on after several opposition figures were arrested. The government does, however, claim that Mane had been plotting a coup with the backing of several political figures after his failed bid last week to take back control of the army after objecting to military appointments made by Yala. Much of the small, impoverished country in tropical west Africa believes the general is hiding in the parish of Our Lady, probably under the protection of the church, where about 200 people normally attend mass each Sunday. But the smiling, bearded parish priest, George Falcao, was adamant: "If he was here, we would have handed him over to the authorities as we did with the others." At no point, Falcao insisted, had his church sheltered the hunted rebel leader. This Sunday, however, "more people than usual came to mass: perhaps almost 300." "That probably has to do with the recent events," the priest suggested. hts/sa/nb _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:40:46 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Pasamba Jow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: 'THE GUNMEN'THREATEN INDEPENDENT REPORTER/INDEPENDENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed This article goes further to prove the state sponsored thuggryin the Gambia.Since coming to power Jammeh and his clique have time and time again demonstrated the extent they would go to curtail fundamental rights and freedom.Their target have been members of the press .It is important for the press members not to be intimidated by this cowardly acts.It is also important for people both in and out of GAMBIA to demonstrate to Jammeh that enough is enough and no more.Many people have lost their lives and many have been totured and detained unjustly ,for no other reason than having a different view from the government. Mr Mbye continue your work in the name of justice.IT was DR.King who indicated that "an individual have not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity." TO Jammeh and his facist clique bear the words of DR. King that"true peace is not merely the absence of tension but the presence of justice" 'The Gunmen' threaten Independent reporter The Independent, Friday received a letter addressed to the paper's editors, threatening to eliminate its reporter Alhagie Mbye, if he should continue to make 'undesirable reports'. The letters signed by 'The Gunmen' warned the reporter to steer clear of reporting about them. Prior to this letter we also received an unsigned letter purportedly from the NIA, levelling criticisms about how we report NIA activities. 'NIA rebels under the placatory machinations - the media aiding via the front pages' was its underlined heading. We herewith reproduce the full text of the letter from 'The Gunmen' unedited. Dear Mr. Editor, Warning! Warning! Warning! Dear Mr. Editor, Warning! Warning! Warning! This is the last warning to Alhagie Mbye of your newspaper to desist from immediate effect his continuing undesirable reports. If he could fully remember we nearly eliminated him sometimes last year when his house was raided. Or did he forget! He was given stern warning but he still fail to comply. We know all his in's and out's and will accordingly deal with him. Such dangerous stories you continue reporting will never be tolerated again therefore get ready as you will not be spare!!! We have the ways, power and Means of doing that and no idiotic person can stop us. Our resolution will ever be defended and will never be obstructed by any journalist. You reap what you sow. Okay. Mr. Editor publish this letter as we mean our words. Yours, The gunmen Reacting to the threat, Mr. Mbye, said that he was not surprised or intimidated as his house was raided last year by two men armed with a pistol, introducing themselves as NIA officers. He noted that during the raid his house was ransacked and his brief case unlocked and tampered with. He also recalled that his school papers and other personal documents were taken away by the two men who had claimed that they were searching for 'certain official documents' they believed were handed over to Mr. Mbye by the opposition for publication. Mr. Mbye recalled that his life was threatened by the two men who warned him to 'stop writing dangerous stories'. He added that despite the matter being reported to the police in the presence of his friend another journalist, he was told by the police that they cannot interfere as 'we are in a different era'. Mr. Mbye noted that until now those documents have not been returned to him. In the wake of the letter-threat Independent's Managing Editor Alagi Yorro Jallow said the paper would not pay heed to such a threat, since it emanated from cowards wanting to disrupt The Independent and the reporter. 'I have notified the police of the threat because no threat is small. We seek refuge under the feet of Allah. Our stance and editorial policy would never be compromised' he clearly stated. Abdoulie Sey the paper's Assistant Editor said if the threat was made to cower The Independent it was ill-advised. 'We will never back away from reporting the truth' he emphasised. The chairman of the Gambia Press Union D.A Jawo has condemned the threat, saying it was cowardly _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Stockholm police commissioner Gunno Gunnmo has sent a written apology to the Discrimination Ombudsman and withdrawn the report, police spokeswoman Stina Wessling told AFP. "Some of the phrasing in the report was unfortunate," she said. In December 1998, Stockholm police published a report stating that 400 of the 900 or so Gambians living in Stockholm were involved in the heroin trade. The city's Gambian Federation and several private individuals filed a complaint with the Discrimination Ombudsman. The police letter, a copy of which was obtained by AFP, noted that "the accuracy of parts of the report can be called into question." "The police authority strongly disclaims those parts of the report that can be interpreted as unfair or offensive to individuals or groups of Gambian origin," it said. "The police authority deeply regrets that so many felt offended by the contents of the report," it concluded. The chief lawyer for the Stockholm police authority, Leena Kangas, told the newspaper Metro that police decided to issue a public apology because many Gambians were upset by the report. "The report does not fulfill the legal requirements needed for it to not be considered ethnic discrimination. It crossed the line," Kangas said. Kangas said that even if the information was accurate and the result of meticulous investigation, the police wronged in making the information public. "One cannot pass on information like that to the public. Clumping people together is not recommended, and we don't know if the information holds true," she said. po/sa _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:04:59 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD : Guinea-Bissau government arrests 181 after 'coup bid' Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed BISSAU, Nov 27 (AFP) - Guinea-Bissau authorities had arrested almost 200 army officers and politicians by Monday, along with separatist fighters from neighbouring Senegal, whom they accuse of working with fugitive General Ansumane Mane in a foiled coup bid. A humanitarian source, who asked not to be named, said those detained included "73 officers and top politicians very close" to Mane, a former military ruler who has been on the run since a foiled rebellion last week. On the basis of a count established late Sunday, security services were also holding 108 fighters from neighbouring Casamance province, in southern Senegal, who had rallied to Mane, the source said. Diplomatic sources in the capital Bissau confirmed the report. Mane last Wednesday and Thursday led a rebellion against President Kumba Yala, after falling out with the head of state over a series of military appointments, but fled following clashes in and around the capital Bissau. The government later accused the renegade general of plotting a coup with opposition politicians, saying it had found "a secret list of people who were to occupy positions in a future government." Prime Minister Caetano Ntchma told AFP "there will not be a witchhunt," but confirmed Sunday that several opposition party leaders had already been arrested. Mane's whereabouts remained unknown. The president of the former sole, ruling African Party for the Independence of Guinea-Bissau and Cape Verde (PAIGC), Francisco Benante, was arrested at his home, where a cache of weapons and grenades was found, Ntchma said. A leading opposition figure, Agnelo Regala, was arrested on Saturday along with Rambout Barcelo, president of the Union for Change party, and two of his party's deputies in the national assembly. Only hours before his arrest, Regala had warned that the government was carrying out a "political cleansing" operation with the help of the army. The former leader of Guinea-Bissau's human rights league and president of the Guinean Socialist Alliance, Fernanado Gomes, was also arrested. Gomes, who heads a political forum grouping together five small parties, had organised a rally against the government on November 15. The humanitarian source confirmed that the group of 73 officers and top politicians was being held at the central police station in Bissau. The other detainees, including some Casamance rebels who are close to Mane, were being held in several military camps in Bissau and in a camp at Mansoa, in the centre of the country. A mediation team led by UN envoy Samuel Nanan Sinkam, Bissau Archbishop Jose Camnato and the Guinean and Gambian ambassadors, is seeking to resolve the political crisis without bloodshed. The team on Monday broadcast a radio appeal to Mane to "take refuge in a mosque or a church". Initial military reports said he had indeed holed up in a church at Quinhamel parish north of the capital, but the local priest denied this. Between June 1998 and May 1999, Mane led the military in an insurrection against then PAIGC president Joao Bernardo Vieira, when each accused the other of trafficking in arms to Casamance separatists. Several hundred people were killed when Vieira was ousted. The Casamance Movement of Democratic Forces (MFDC) has always had bases in Guinea-Bissau where one of the leaders of the group's armed wing, Salif Sadio, has taken refuge. Other members of the MFDC who are opposed to Sadio, have joined the loyalist Guinea-Bissau forces, several sources in Bissau said. Casamance rebels fought alongside Mane's men in his first uprising which led to to the downfall of Vieira, despite his support from the Guinean and Senegalese armies. hts/sa/nb _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 17:18:38 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD: Mbeki drafting economic recovery plan for Africa Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed JOHANNESBURG, Nov 27 (AFP) - South Africa is, with help from Nigeria and Algeria, drafting an economic rescue plan for Africa that will see countries on the continent join hands in a quest for foreign investment and development, President Thabo Mbeki has said. Tentatively titled the Millenium Africa Recovery Plan, it will also coordinate the push for debt relief and more foreign aid for Africa, Mbeki said in an interview with the Financial Times of London published Monday in the Johannesburg-based newspaper Business Day. Mbeki said the plan would be issued in draft form and presented to governments of developed countries within a month's time and hopefully launched next year. "It has to deal with these matters of debt trade, market access and attraction of capital into these African countries. "We are looking at all of these things to see if we can't elaborate a new programme for African development," he said. So far, the plan has won the support of British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President Bill Clinton, who "is very keen to see this thing in place before he leaves office," Mbeki said. He added that Clinton wants to stay involved in trying to solve Africa's troubles even after his term ends early next year. "I discussed with him the matter of what happens after he has left the presidency and he is very keenly interested to remain engaged with this African challenge and will be," he said. Mbeki's officials have explained that he was trying to persuade the developed world to support an equivalent of the Marshall Plan -- which sought to rebuild the European economy after World War II -- for Africa. But the president emphasized that it hinges on African countries proving that they are committed to peace, democracy and stability and prepared to root out corruption. "It is really up to yourself as an African country to come on board by demonstrating seriousness and commitment." He said Africa could not expect the rest of the world to throw money at its problems without setting conditions. "You cannot say 'I'm going to export all of these billions of dollars and put them in a Swiss bank account and please, rest of the world, can you come in and rescue my country'." However, he implied, this time African leaders rather than international organisations like the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund should be the ones imposing the conditions for foreign help. bur/ef/pbl/nb _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:24:34 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO company is based in Atlanta Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gambia-L: The unedited e-mail below came from a source in the heart of the Gambian Government. Ebrima Ceesay _______________________________________________________________________ >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: HILO company is based in Atlanta >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 > >Ebrima, > >Following the announcement of this year's groundnut price (D2,600 per >tonne), the farming community has once again seen the untrustworthiness of, >and the liar in Yahya Jammeh. Firstly, he promised them that he will >announce the price of groundnut on the 12 November and that the buying >season will start on the 15th November, 2000. As we all know, Yahya failed >to fulfill his promise on both counts for reasons I stated in my last >posting to you. External resources will not be released to finance this >year's buying season unless and until, Yahya stops his corrupt practices >and his collaboration with unsavory characters to further syphon off funds >meant to alleviate the suffering of our people. Take the case of the HILO >company of Atlanta. This is a company, incorporated in the State of >Georgia, with a total capitilisation of a mere $130,000 and you expect this >company to buy the total groundnut crop which is extimated this year to be >in the region of between 150,000 to 175,000 tones. Amadou Samba, Tarik and >their HILO Company cannot raise financing to buy this year's crop. I know, >as a matter of fact, that the company cannot but 7,000 tonnes as at this >moment and yet they are instisting on total monopoly of the trade; can you >believe that? The whole thing has turned into a very sad joke > >Yahya promised the farmers during his tour that he will increase the price >of groundnut from D2,800 in 1999/2000 season to a minimum of D3,200 in >2000/2001. Instead, this year's price has just been announced at D2,600; >D200 lower than last year. The farmers are naturally disappointed, >dejected and have decided to sell their nuts to Senegal so that they can , >at least, be paid for their season's labour and sweat. Once again, Yahya >has failed the farmer. It is lies upon lies for Yahya. Yahya must go and >go he will. > >Ebrima, you can request Bamba Laye and others in the Atlanta area to look >into this funny HILO Company with total capitilisation of $130,000 >registered in the State of Georgia, whose CEO visited Banjul last week but >because of the fact that I had gone up country, I could not meet him to >extract additional information about his intent and those of his corrupt >collaborators in the name Yahya Jammeh, Amadou Samba, Tarik Musa and Modou >Dibba to further extort the Gambian population. By way of additional >information, the British fellow I mentioned ealier is not the owner of the >HILO company but rather he is a front and act as a freelancer, at a price , >of course. These people must be exposed and if possible legally prosecuted >in the US for corruption. In case the Softwear engineer is in anyway >involved, his Employer will be informed of his extracurricula activities. >We will fight you everywhere you may be. The likes of you, Yahya Jammeh >and his entire goivernment are destroying our country. We will not sit >back and let the country be destroyed further by a group of corrupt >illiterates. > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Ebrima _________________________________________________________________________ >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Appointment of Chiefs by Jammeh :Opposition will walk out of >Assembly > > >Ebrima, > >While Cheyassin Secka and his cronies at the Attorney General's Chambers >are putting the finishing touchs on the proposed amendments to the >Constitution, the Opposition is also busy consulting on how to react to the >illegal and unethical decision of the Jammeh regime to impose its will on >the people of The Gambia. > >In order not to legitimise or dignify a clearly politically motivated act >on the part of Cheyassin and Jammeh, the main Opposition WILL walk out >during the introduction of the Bill. This act, on the part of a government >that has been clearly rejected by the people, will not be condoned and the >opposition will certainly not legitimise Cheyassin's actions, by debating >and voting on the matter. Let the APRC members of the National assembly do >the dirty work of Cheyassin and Yahya Jammeh. The opposition will >certainly not participate in the debate and/or the voting. > >The Gambian people are fed up with yahya Jammeh and his illegitimate >government. They have lost all legitimacy and the opposition is not going >to assist Jammeh in his desperate attempt to revitalise his battered image >as President of this once proud country of ours. > >I will tell you one thing, Ebrima, the situation in The Gambia, is >extremely tense and anyting can happen anytime, even before the elections. >GAMBIANS ARE DETERMINED TO LIBERATE THE GAMBIA FROM YAHYA JAMMEH AND HIS >ILLEGAL GOVERNMENT. > >I will be sending you another e-mail containing the name and address of >that dummy one-man company in Atlanta so that you can pass it individually >to Abdoulie Jallow and those living in Georgia for further investigation. >I need only a few details before forwarding it to you for distribution. >Jammeh must be exposed further in order to protect the farming community >and the general public from a greedy, selfish, corrupt government that is >hell bent on destroying the Gambia. > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed mam jay try this site http:www.islamicity.com/ramadam >From: Mam Jay Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Help! Schedule for the Ramadan. >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 14:44:55 -0000 > >Can someone please provide me with a current schedule for this year's >Ramadan? I live in Ohio and I understand we break fast at different times. >Please let me know if there is a website where I can get the information. > >Thanks and have a blessed Ramadan. >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:02:00 +0100 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Fw: Imam Baba Leigh Warns Imam Abdoulie Fatty of State House Mosque MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Point Monday, November 27, 2000 Imam Baba Leigh Warns Imam Abdoulie Fatty of State House Mosque =20 =20 Imam Baba Leigh of the Kanifing Mosque has warned State House Mosque = Imam Abdoulie Fatty to immediately stop his campaign of character = assassination directed against him, or else he would seek the full = protection of the law.=20 According to our sources, a letter to that effect was written by Imam = Baba Leigh's lawyer to Imam Fatty, dated November 8, 2000 and copied to = the Secretary of State for the Interior and Religious Affairs, the = Secretary General Office of the President, President of the Gambia = Supreme Islamic Council and the President Islamic League.=20 The letter indicated that Imam Fatty on one occasion whilst delivering a = sermon at the State House, categorically singled him out (Imam Baba = Leigh) and alleged that he (Leigh) was paid by the white people and = other female activists to preach against the practice of female = circumcision.=20 On another occasion, the letter revealed, Imam Fatty engaged in a = mudslinging campaign when he accused Imam Leigh together with other = well-known Islamic scholars namely Imam Muntaha Fye, Omar Manneh and = Khalifa Jammeh of spoiling the religion of Islam and misleading Muslims. = The letter disclosed that Imam Baba Leigh had on several occasions tried = to seek redress, when he approached the then Secretary of State for = Religious Affairs, Lamin Kaba Bajo, Alhaji Banding Drammeh, the = president of the Supreme Islamic Council, Alhaji Dr. Magnum Ceesay, an = Islamic scholar and Kebba Landing Sanyang, president of the Gambia = Arabic Islamic League, and that he (Imam Baba Leigh) was certain they = spoke to Imam Fatty, but to no avail. The letter said Imam Fatty still = insists on making attacks and other derogatory remarks at every = opportunity.=20 The letter stated that Imam Leigh is quite capable of making similar = attacks on Imam Abdoulie Fatty's character, but that Imam Leigh views = such acts as immature and un-Islamic and would have negative effects on = the Islamic religion which all Muslims are duty bound to preserve. The = letter, therefore, asked Imam Abdoulie Fatty to stop the derogatory = campaign against Imam Baba Leigh's person and character, failing which = Leigh would seek the full protection of the law.=20 =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 16:33:58 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO company is based in Atlanta Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Ebrima, your sources are doing a tremendous job exposing the shenanigans that Yaya and his cronies are engaged in. The groundnut problem that has dogged this government since its inception, will not go away. That is because you have fools like Yaya at the helm being manipulated by opportunists of the highest order. Previously it was Libyans and Baba Jobe. Now it is some bogus American outfit conniving with the Amadou Samba's of this world. Is this Modou Dibba the same guy that was disgraced and made homeless by this same regime he is now purportedly working for? As I said in this forum months ago, the solution for this groundnut debacle lies in Washington, DC and not in Banjul. Morons like Yaya, inept counsel like Secka and corrupt businessmen like Amadou Samba cannot and will not solve this problem. The government currently has a case pending at the World Bank. This is a case Alimenta brought against the government. All the lawyers involved, including lawyers representing Yaya, know that the government does not have legs to stand on. As long as the case is pending, lawyers get paid. Secka does not have the wherewithal to advise Yaya to cut his losses and settle the case now. Yaya, being the clue-less fool he is, cannot decipher what should be glaring to the naked eye. The problem is not about getting a dubious outfit that will buy the groundnut from the farmers. There are tons of Amadou Sambas and Tarik Musas willing to engage in such money laundering activities. Where the problem lies, is in the ability of the middleman to sell the groundnut in the international market. Alimenta is among the five most powerful groundnut buyers in the world. A country like Gambia does not want to be on the wrong side of such a corporation. The Americans that want to go to Gambia for the groundnut will get burnt. The reason they are lowering their buying price is because they cannot find a market for the groundnut. Gambian farmers should not be the ones suffering at the bottom of the heap. If the prices offered by this bogus outfit are not competitive, farmers should just do like they did before and cross the border to go sell their nuts in Senegal. If they are really tired of this rigmarole, the farmers should assist in getting rid of Yaya. So long as Yaya is there, the farmers will never be able to sell their groundnuts at the best rates possible. All these promises from Yaya and his gang are lies. This is business. No American company will buy the groundnut from the farmers knowing that it will encounter difficulties selling the groundnut. Unless of course the American company is not putting its money up front. The government tried intimidating local banks to get them to finance the groundnut trade. Reputable banks in The Gambia turned them down because they knew this was a losing proposition. If people close their eyes one second, the government will go to Social Security or the Central Bank to try and siphon some money out to these bogus businessmen. So, Amadou et al will be using taxpayers' money to finance this trade at zero risk to them. That way, if they cannot sell the groundnut outside Gambia, guess who would be left in the cold. I do not for one moment believe that American investors are that naïve or that philanthropic to invest in such a profitless venture. I cannot also envisage a situation where this company will get investment guarantees from the U.S. government or multilateral organizations. Their only guarantee would be from Yaya. If they are not fools, they will demand their money up-front by forcing Yaya to provide the financing. In any case, ordinary Gambian farmers cannot win. Opposition parties should retrace Yaya's tour and go up country and debunk the lies Yaya told the farmers. The farmers have to understand that their salvation does not lie with Yaya. No respectable groundnut buyer want to touch our groundnuts because of fear of reprisal from Alimenta. We need a government that can get us out of this mess. KB >From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: HILO company is based in Atlanta >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:24:34 -0000 > >Gambia-L: > >The unedited e-mail below came from a source in the heart of the Gambian >Government. > >Ebrima Ceesay > >_______________________________________________________________________ > > >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: HILO company is based in Atlanta >>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 >> >>Ebrima, >> >>Following the announcement of this year's groundnut price (D2,600 per >>tonne), the farming community has once again seen the untrustworthiness >>of, >>and the liar in Yahya Jammeh. Firstly, he promised them that he will >>announce the price of groundnut on the 12 November and that the buying >>season will start on the 15th November, 2000. As we all know, Yahya failed >>to fulfill his promise on both counts for reasons I stated in my last >>posting to you. External resources will not be released to finance this >>year's buying season unless and until, Yahya stops his corrupt practices >>and his collaboration with unsavory characters to further syphon off funds >>meant to alleviate the suffering of our people. Take the case of the HILO >>company of Atlanta. This is a company, incorporated in the State of >>Georgia, with a total capitilisation of a mere $130,000 and you expect >>this >>company to buy the total groundnut crop which is extimated this year to be >>in the region of between 150,000 to 175,000 tones. Amadou Samba, Tarik and >>their HILO Company cannot raise financing to buy this year's crop. I know, >>as a matter of fact, that the company cannot but 7,000 tonnes as at this >>moment and yet they are instisting on total monopoly of the trade; can you >>believe that? The whole thing has turned into a very sad joke >> >>Yahya promised the farmers during his tour that he will increase the price >>of groundnut from D2,800 in 1999/2000 season to a minimum of D3,200 in >>2000/2001. Instead, this year's price has just been announced at D2,600; >>D200 lower than last year. The farmers are naturally disappointed, >>dejected and have decided to sell their nuts to Senegal so that they can , >>at least, be paid for their season's labour and sweat. Once again, Yahya >>has failed the farmer. It is lies upon lies for Yahya. Yahya must go and >>go he will. >> >>Ebrima, you can request Bamba Laye and others in the Atlanta area to look >>into this funny HILO Company with total capitilisation of $130,000 >>registered in the State of Georgia, whose CEO visited Banjul last week but >>because of the fact that I had gone up country, I could not meet him to >>extract additional information about his intent and those of his corrupt >>collaborators in the name Yahya Jammeh, Amadou Samba, Tarik Musa and Modou >>Dibba to further extort the Gambian population. By way of additional >>information, the British fellow I mentioned ealier is not the owner of the >>HILO company but rather he is a front and act as a freelancer, at a price >>, >>of course. These people must be exposed and if possible legally prosecuted >>in the US for corruption. In case the Softwear engineer is in anyway >>involved, his Employer will be informed of his extracurricula activities. >>We will fight you everywhere you may be. The likes of you, Yahya Jammeh >>and his entire goivernment are destroying our country. We will not sit >>back and let the country be destroyed further by a group of corrupt >>illiterates. >> > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 21:40:33 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Whether motivated by greed, ethnicity, or simply, a lust for power, the quest for dominance is always prevalent in Africa, and the West alike. Surely, we're yet to be blessed with a true leader who understands the true meaning of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Who can honestly claim that this cyber forum is "fruitful", and bears genuine results. Personally, I don't see the need to have 3,4,5,6, - infinite organisations all fighting for the same purpose. If one truly wants to be part of this change, one must consider going back home and have one's vote counted (I don't need to hear about ballot politics, for all I know, that's option #1). As citizens of The Gambia, let's be reminded once more to uphold the TRUE meaning of our national anthem, ..."Let JUSTICE guide our actions, towards the common good." Cyberchatting won't solve our problems. Instead, it spreads the rumours. As much as we recite our national anthem, has anyone ever stopped to think about who wrote it. Obviously, that person must have thought we are a Christian country. If I had to edit it, I would probably rewrite the whole script. One word I would definitely change is, " GOD to ALLAH." Happy Ramadan to EVERYONE! ... Essa >From: "MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA (UK)" > <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:39:13 -0000 > ><< Chairman_sofficialstatement(MRDGUK).doc >> _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:12:01 +0100 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Lamin Bojang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: SV: SUBSCRIBE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please subscribe this e-mail to the list [log in to unmask] Thanks in advance. Lams ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:39:55 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Anglican church and the William's family regret to announce the death of Father William's which sad event occurred this morning. Father William's returned home some years back from England after his retirement from active service. Our condolence to the entire family. May his soul rest in peace. Chi Jamma, Bro Sheikh Tejan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:40:21 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The John family of Leman and Tobaco Road, The Leigh family, the Njie family and the Savage family and the extended family regret to announce the death of Aji Jankey John which sad event occurred this evening. Aji Jankey was a mother to me and was always willing to give motherly advice. She served as the president of the banjul craft market and played a leading role in the affairs of the market. Our condolence to our ar sister and wife Kineh Leigh and the rest of the family. May her soul rest in peace. Chi Jamma, Bro Sheikh Tejan Nyang ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:40:33 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The late Cherno Mundow Jagne family of Lancaster,Primet,Hill Street and the Kombos regret to announce the death of Ali Jagne formally of The Ports Authority. He died this morning. Ali Was a kind hearted man who shared all he had with his family and friends at the time he had the means to do so. He adored his children like angels. Our condolence to the entire Jagne family. May his soul rest in peace. Chi Jamma, Bro Tejan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:37:05 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jamila Allston <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Brother Wole, With all due respect in this holy time of Ramadan, I must ask why do we continue to deny who we are/were before the bringing about of Islam and Christanity throughout Africa. Why does it always come down to a war between Islam and Christanity? Didn't we as Africans have a wonderful sense of Spirtutaliy, Morality and Cultural before the advent of either religions? Why must we as Africans always have to deny our African roots, culture and customs? What is so wrong with embracing our African past and it's spirituality? And in our many African societies, it was understood that we were embracing a universal creator, regardless of the name that each group called him. These questions are asked with respect and sincerity. In fact, my sons are Muslims and one is fasting for Ramadan. Yet as an African born in America and brutality stripped of my African past via the horrific slave trade (reprentative of millions of us), the question becomes one of why bother trying to embrace my African past if these are my only two alternatives; alternatives that also require the denial of who we are/were as Africans prior to the acceptance of these alternatives as the "correct" and "only" way of life. Peace Jamila ________________________________________________________________________ --- Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Whether motivated by greed, ethnicity, or simply, a lust for power, > the > quest for dominance is always prevalent in Africa, and the West > alike. > Surely, we're yet to be blessed with a true leader who understands > the true > meaning of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. > > Who can honestly claim that this cyber forum is "fruitful", and bears > genuine results. Personally, I don't see the need to have 3,4,5,6, - > infinite organisations all fighting for the same purpose. If one > truly > wants to be part of this change, one must consider going back home > and have > one's vote counted (I don't need to hear about ballot politics, for > all I > know, that's option #1). As citizens of The Gambia, let's be > reminded once > more to uphold the TRUE meaning of our national anthem, ..."Let > JUSTICE > guide our actions, towards the common good." Cyberchatting won't > solve our > problems. Instead, it spreads the rumours. As much as we recite our > national anthem, has anyone ever stopped to think about who wrote it. > Obviously, that person must have thought we are a Christian country. > If I > had to edit it, I would probably rewrite the whole script. One word > I would > definitely change is, " GOD to ALLAH." > > Happy Ramadan to EVERYONE! ... > > Essa > > > > > >From: "MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA (UK)" > > <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > ><[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:39:13 -0000 > > > ><< Chairman_sofficialstatement(MRDGUK).doc >> > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the > Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to > [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to > write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, First of all i would like to remind you that the meaning of Ramadan is justice because by abstaining from eating makes us know and remember the condition of the miskines plus the rest.THEREFORE IT`S HYPOCRITICAL to wish people happy ramadan when you want to deny fellow Gambians justice.I don`t know whether you are the guy in paris Essa bocarr Sey the griot of the butcher of kanilai but onething you fail to realised is that one of the fundamental basics of democracy is the freedom of association, assembly,speech etc,so what`s the problem of having many pro cemocracy movements and would you honestly say that Gambians can exercise their democratic right of voting . Where were you during all the elections conducted by this regime,the thuggery,intimidation,threats made by jemus to the Gambians,the killings, detention of perceived political opponents,etc the list can go on and on. Be honest you are just selfish or alergic to democracy. Peace,adieu.All am interested in is to see genuine democracy in my beloved Gambia.WHERE THERE IS NO FEAR AND THE RULE OF LAW IS JEALOUSLY GUARDED.I DON`T GIVE A DAM WHO BECOMES THE PRESIFENT, SO LONG AS HE ABIDES BY CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES. --- Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Whether motivated by greed, ethnicity, or simply, a > lust for power, the > quest for dominance is always prevalent in Africa, > and the West alike. > Surely, we're yet to be blessed with a true leader > who understands the true > meaning of life, liberty, and the pursuit of > happiness. > > Who can honestly claim that this cyber forum is > "fruitful", and bears > genuine results. Personally, I don't see the need > to have 3,4,5,6, - > infinite organisations all fighting for the same > purpose. If one truly > wants to be part of this change, one must consider > going back home and have > one's vote counted (I don't need to hear about > ballot politics, for all I > know, that's option #1). As citizens of The Gambia, > let's be reminded once > more to uphold the TRUE meaning of our national > anthem, ..."Let JUSTICE > guide our actions, towards the common good." > Cyberchatting won't solve our > problems. Instead, it spreads the rumours. As much > as we recite our > national anthem, has anyone ever stopped to think > about who wrote it. > Obviously, that person must have thought we are a > Christian country. If I > had to edit it, I would probably rewrite the whole > script. One word I would > definitely change is, " GOD to ALLAH." > > Happy Ramadan to EVERYONE! ... > > Essa > > > > > >From: "MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN > THE GAMBIA (UK)" > > <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing > list > ><[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:39:13 -0000 > > > ><< Chairman_sofficialstatement(MRDGUK).doc >> > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of > postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to > [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and > remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 10:46:33 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Abdou Karim Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: EROSION OF HUMANRIGHTS IN THE GAMBIA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Having keen interest in human rights issues, I want to express my concern to the erosion of human rights in our beloved nation.It's a fact that the coming of Yaya Jammeh into power was the beginning of the erosion of human rights records in our country. Most of these crimes are with impunity. From the incident of April student demonstration, the unconstitutional arrest and detention of Comrade Dumo Sarho et al, censorship of the press with dragonian and undemocractic decree 70 and 71, destruction of the beach bars, the Basse incident, one can imagine that we are now in the time of the butcher bird. Our country which is refered to as the smiling coast, is now turn to the crying coast of West Africa. The recent revelation of the commission on the April incident have betrayed the masses.The term of reference of the commission was manipulated. The million dollar question of who ordered the killings of innocent children cannot be answered by the authorities. Time and again many critical minded people blame the Government of Yaya Jammen for having blood in their hands as fact's remain undercover. At many a time, in international conferences our government camouflage that there is rule of law and democracy in the Gambia but any sober minded person knows that's far from reality. Since July 1994, the people of these country are living in the state fear which have serious implication to our long history of democracy.Hardly days goes by without reports of detension and arrest of people for expressing their views. The Government should know that the essence of democracy is to allow opponents to express their views. With the present trend of globilisation, it is a fact that no nation-state is an island. The development cooperation between developed and developing countries is base on 3-D-solution and that is debt, development and democracy. It is about time for APRC to shape a good image in our pathway to sustainable human development. Today our country is engulfed with numerous developmental crisis such as youth unemployment, poverty, high population growth, environmental degeneration etc, meeting the challenges of which requires democractic ethnics as international conditionality. BY:-Abdou Karim Sanneh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:32:27 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Bro Sheikh, I would like you to do me a favour and extend my condolences personally to Nana Grey-Johnson on the passing away of Father Williams. Father Williams was a well known figure within and outside the Anglican community. For those who knew him well, he had a great sense of humour. I extend my condolences to Pap John Williams, Anna Williams and the rest of the family. May his soul rest in perfect peace. Sidi Sanneh >From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:39:55 +0000 > >The Anglican church and the William's family regret to announce the >death of Father William's which sad event occurred this morning. Father >William's returned home some years back from England after his >retirement from active service. Our condolence to the entire family. May >his soul rest in peace. > >Chi Jamma, >Bro Sheikh Tejan > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:51:40 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Madam Faal, Obviously you haven't read your script properly before posting it. I don't even know what line of thought to address first because each one is either untrue, or confusing. But to save the day for both of us, I will sum up my comments. I'm not Essa Sey. And even if I was, am I not entitled to my opinion? Ramadan doesn't stand for justice. If you're unsure about something, don't make up stuff. Ramadan is so-called to indicate the heating sensation in the stomach as a result of thirst (thanks to http:islam.miningco.com/religion/islam). There are other variations of the meaning of ramadan, none of which talks about justice. You can enrich yourself at this site. It's significance has nothing to do with justice. It is the one pillar in Islam that does not involve any activity or third party. It brings you closer to your creator, and thus elevates your relationship with him. On the state of your our nation, I can only add that you are preaching to the choir. Your last sentence reminds me of my attitude in Primary 2. Increase your knowledge base and you will definitely give a DAM. Happy RAMADAN! Essa >From: khallyamat faal <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 20:14:32 -0800 > >Hi, > First of all i would like to remind you that the >meaning of Ramadan is justice because by abstaining >from eating makes us know and remember the condition >of the miskines plus the rest.THEREFORE IT`S >HYPOCRITICAL to wish people happy ramadan when you >want to deny fellow Gambians justice.I don`t know >whether you are the guy in paris Essa bocarr Sey the >griot of the butcher of kanilai but onething you fail >to realised is that one of the fundamental basics of >democracy is the freedom of association, >assembly,speech etc,so what`s the problem of having >many pro cemocracy movements and would you honestly >say that Gambians can exercise their democratic right >of voting . Where were you during all the elections >conducted by this regime,the >thuggery,intimidation,threats made by jemus to the >Gambians,the killings, detention of perceived >political opponents,etc the list can go on and on. >Be honest you are just selfish or alergic to >democracy. >Peace,adieu.All am interested in is to see genuine >democracy in my beloved Gambia.WHERE THERE IS NO FEAR >AND THE RULE OF LAW IS JEALOUSLY GUARDED.I DON`T GIVE >A DAM WHO BECOMES THE PRESIFENT, SO LONG AS HE ABIDES >BY CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES. >--- Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Whether motivated by greed, ethnicity, or simply, a > > lust for power, the > > quest for dominance is always prevalent in Africa, > > and the West alike. > > Surely, we're yet to be blessed with a true leader > > who understands the true > > meaning of life, liberty, and the pursuit of > > happiness. > > > > Who can honestly claim that this cyber forum is > > "fruitful", and bears > > genuine results. Personally, I don't see the need > > to have 3,4,5,6, - > > infinite organisations all fighting for the same > > purpose. If one truly > > wants to be part of this change, one must consider > > going back home and have > > one's vote counted (I don't need to hear about > > ballot politics, for all I > > know, that's option #1). As citizens of The Gambia, > > let's be reminded once > > more to uphold the TRUE meaning of our national > > anthem, ..."Let JUSTICE > > guide our actions, towards the common good." > > Cyberchatting won't solve our > > problems. Instead, it spreads the rumours. As much > > as we recite our > > national anthem, has anyone ever stopped to think > > about who wrote it. > > Obviously, that person must have thought we are a > > Christian country. If I > > had to edit it, I would probably rewrite the whole > > script. One word I would > > definitely change is, " GOD to ALLAH." > > > > Happy Ramadan to EVERYONE! ... > > > > Essa > > > > > > > > > > >From: "MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN > > THE GAMBIA (UK)" > > > <[log in to unmask]> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing > > list > > ><[log in to unmask]> > > >To: [log in to unmask] > > >Subject: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. > > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:39:13 -0000 > > > > > ><< Chairman_sofficialstatement(MRDGUK).doc >> > > > > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of > > postings, go to the Gambia-L > > Web interface at: > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > You may also send subscription requests to > > [log in to unmask] > > if you have problems accessing the web interface and > > remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. >http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:15:41 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Hamadi Banna <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Gambia's President Jumps the Gun Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Courtesy of the BBC ________________________ Gambia's President Jumps the Gun By Ebraima Sillah in Banjul Gambia's President Yayah Jammeh has been criticised by opposition figures for sending a congratulatory message to United States Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush. Although a lot of people here are happy that the only country in Africa George W Bush has ever visited is the Gambia... they openly support the democratic candidate, Vice President Al Gore Civil servants are also said to be critical of the letter. The US Government has not yet restored aid to the Gambia, cut by President Clinton's democratic administration after Mr Jammeh seized power in a military coup. The letter was phrased in flowery, diplomatic language. "Mr President-elect, following your election and victory in the just concluded elections to the exalted position of president of your great country, it gives me much pleasure and deep honour to warmly congratulate you and convey very cordial greetings on my own behalf and on behalf of the government and people of the Gambia. "It is my strong conviction and resolve that together we can make the US/Gambia relationship and co-operation more fruitful and prosperous." In conclusion, Mr Jammeh said he looked forward to working closely with George W Bush to strengthen international peace and consolidate bilateral relationship between the Gambia and the United State. 'Wrong signal' However, Mr Jammeh's message to Mr Bush did not go down well with many Gambians. An opposition politician described Mr Jammeh's message as bizarre and immature They accused him of sending the wrong signal by congratulating George W Bush on his victory when the matter is still being challenged in the courts. An opposition politician described Mr Jammeh's message as bizarre and immature. He decribed Mr Jammeh and his foreign policy advisers as adventurous toddlers who have very little understanding of international politics and diplomacy. In private a number of top civil servants have also admitted a serious protocol error on the part of the president, saying he should have waited until the final outcome is determined. Currying favour? Many people here also interpret the president's move as an attempt to pull George W. Bush onto his side following strained diplomatic relations between the Gambia and the present Democrat-led government. Many Gambians say they support Al Gore In 1994 the US Government suspended all direct aid to the Gambia following a military coup led by Mr Jammeh. The ban is still effective because the US Government maintains that the elections which brought Mr Jammeh to power were neither free nor fair. Although a lot of people here are happy that the only country in Africa George W Bush has ever visited is the Gambia when he came for the silver jubilee celebrations in 1990, they openly support the democratic candidate, Vice President Al Gore. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:40:50 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: West African envoy arrives in Guinea-Bissau, seeks resolution Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed BISSAU, Nov 28 (AFP) - A special envoy from a west African regional group has arrived in Guinea-Bissau to try to help resolve the country's political crisis, diplomatic sources reported here Tuesday. General Idrissa Sire Traore of Mali arrived in the capital late Monday to help defuse tension after a purported coup bid by General Ansumane Mane against President Kumba Yala last week went sour. Traore met with Yala and passed a message on to him from the current chairman of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), Mali's head of state Alpha Oumar Konare, and was also due to meet other leading political figures on Tuesday. Guinea-Bissau authorities said Monday they had arrested almost 200 army officers and politicians, along with separatist fighters from neighboring Senegal, whom they accuse of working with the now fugitive general. Mane fell out with the president last week over a series of military appointments, but fled following clashes in and around the capital Bissau. Mane, a former military ruler, proclaimed himself army chief and "supreme commander" of a revived junta, but fled after loyalist forces overcame his men in fighting on Wednesday and Thursday that fighting 10 dead. Traore also met with the United Nations special representative in Guinea-Bissau, Samuel Nanan Sinkam and the country's Archbishop Jose Camnato. Both are members of a mediation team which also includes the Guinean and Gambian ambassadors which is seeking to resolve the political crisis without bloodshed. ECOWAS, an economic and security grouping of 16 nations, was already militarily involved in the first Guinea Bissau crisis in 1998 and 1999. Between June 1998 and May 1999, Mane led the military in an insurrection against then President Joao Bernardo Vieira, when each accused the other of trafficking in arms to Casamance separatists. Hundreds of people were killed and Vieira was eventually ousted. hts/tm/nb _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:51:59 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Hamadi Banna <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Buba Baldeh at Daily Observer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Courtesy of the Daily Observer ___________________________________________ Tuesday, November 28, 2000 BUBA BALDEH IS NEW OBSERVER MD - VOWS TO UPHOLD EDITORIAL INDEPENDENCE The former PPP minister for Youths, Sports and Culture, now deputy national mobiliser of the APRC, Buba Baldeh, has been appointed managing director of the Observer Company with effect from November 24. Mr Baldeh, who called at the Daily Observer officers yesterday afternoon to announce his new appointment, replaces Sarriang Ceesay. Mr Ceesay has been on vacation in the United States for the past two months. Unconfirmed sources said Mr Ceesay, who is expected in Banjul early next week, may land a job in the Gambia civil service. Sarriang Ceesay was the director general of Customs and Excise and later ran a private consultancy before heading the Observer Company in May 1999 following the acquisition of the company by tycoon, Amadou Samba. In an interview shortly after he visited various departments of the company yesterday afternoon, Mr Baldeh affirmed his allegiance to Amadou Samba and said he will "live up to expectations". Mr Baldeh denied his appointment was a calculated move to blunt the objective edge of the newspaper by some interested groups in the APRC party. "I am not aware of any APRC clique in the first instance and the paper does not belong to the APRC. This paper belongs to Mr Amadou Samba, who is my employer and therefore, I can only say my allegiance is to the company, to the paper and to the proprietor." The proprietor of Observer Company, Amadou Samba, is viewed in many quarters as a close associate of President Yahya Jammeh. Editorial independence Mr Baldeh promised that he will not interfere with the editorial independence of the Daily Observer. "That is absolutely vital if we are to march forward. My new appointment is a big challenge, but I promise to live up to expectations. Certainly, I have no journalistic experience as such, but in my capacity as managing director, I do not have to be a journalist as such. I have been an administrator all my life. I have headed several government and other institutions in this country. My job here as managing director is, far different from that of editor-in-chief or other journalists. My business will purely be that of management and facilitating and creating the right environment for all the various departments in this company function to the satisfaction of all Gambians, and certainly, the proprietor." Mr Baldeh recalled that when Amadou Samba bought the Observer in 1999, "there were a lot speculations. Mr Samba is a friend to the APRC, et cetera, et cetera. But this speculation will be laid to rest very soon. Daily Observer will continue with its balance reporting without fear or favour. My connections with the APRC, which is as a result of my own political convictions, has got nothing to do with the independence of the Observer, particularly the editorial section of the paper. It is a newspaper and therefore all the stories will be carried in it like any newspaper in this country. The foundation of good work that has been done by my predecessor, Sarriang Ceesay, will be built upon. I am a supporter of President Yahya Jammeh but I have no intention, let me repeat this, I have no intention whatsoever, of interfering in the editorial set-up of this company. In the event that there are complaints from the public or from anybody over articles, over stories, I am sure those complaints will be looked into. I can say that the policy that has been here since Mr Samba took over, that policy has to stay." Mr Baldeh added, "Despite the speculations and criticisms, the Observer still has the largest circulation. It is the biggest newspaper company. It's well organised and both the permanent staff and those on freelance are doing an excellent job." Priorities Commenting on his new priorities, Mr Baldeh said he would maintain the credibility of the paper and that he would embark on an aggressive marketing campaign so that the paper can generate revenue. He promised to promote the staff based on merits, especially those staff who are hard-working. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sister Jamila, With the same respects, I comment on your reply as ff: I am not talking about Spirituality, morality, or culture for that matter. This is about religion. You may be right about their existence, long before religion, but why did religion come about? We must have been steering off-course. The national anthem is preceded by slavery and colonialisation. I brought it up because I am sure not many of us knew who wrote it. I only hope it was someone Gambian. That composer is non-grata to this day. The national anthem is not part of the past you dwelling on. My guess is that it was non-existent prior to Feb '65 or April '70. So why not rewrite it? It is a nice piece, but the author is unknown. If we feed off it, I can only say we are headed in an unknown direction. What are your thoughts? Regards Essa >From: Jamila Allston <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:37:05 -0800 > >Brother Wole, > > With all due respect in this holy time of Ramadan, I must ask why do >we continue to deny who we are/were before the bringing about of Islam >and Christanity throughout Africa. Why does it always come down to a >war between Islam and Christanity? Didn't we as Africans have a >wonderful sense of Spirtutaliy, Morality and Cultural before the advent >of either religions? Why must we as Africans always have to deny our >African roots, culture and customs? What is so wrong with embracing >our African past and it's spirituality? And in our many African >societies, it was understood that we were embracing a universal >creator, regardless of the name that each group called him. > > These questions are asked with respect and sincerity. In fact, my >sons are Muslims and one is fasting for Ramadan. Yet as an African >born in America and brutality stripped of my African past via the >horrific slave trade (reprentative of millions of us), the question >becomes one of why bother trying to embrace my African past if these >are my only two alternatives; alternatives that also require the denial >of who we are/were as Africans prior to the acceptance of these >alternatives as the "correct" and "only" way of life. > > Peace > > Jamila > >________________________________________________________________________ > > >--- Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Whether motivated by greed, ethnicity, or simply, a lust for power, > > the > > quest for dominance is always prevalent in Africa, and the West > > alike. > > Surely, we're yet to be blessed with a true leader who understands > > the true > > meaning of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. > > > > Who can honestly claim that this cyber forum is "fruitful", and bears > > genuine results. Personally, I don't see the need to have 3,4,5,6, - > > infinite organisations all fighting for the same purpose. If one > > truly > > wants to be part of this change, one must consider going back home > > and have > > one's vote counted (I don't need to hear about ballot politics, for > > all I > > know, that's option #1). As citizens of The Gambia, let's be > > reminded once > > more to uphold the TRUE meaning of our national anthem, ..."Let > > JUSTICE > > guide our actions, towards the common good." Cyberchatting won't > > solve our > > problems. Instead, it spreads the rumours. As much as we recite our > > national anthem, has anyone ever stopped to think about who wrote it. > > Obviously, that person must have thought we are a Christian country. > > If I > > had to edit it, I would probably rewrite the whole script. One word > > I would > > definitely change is, " GOD to ALLAH." > > > > Happy Ramadan to EVERYONE! ... > > > > Essa > > > > > > > > > > >From: "MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA (UK)" > > > <[log in to unmask]> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > > ><[log in to unmask]> > > >To: [log in to unmask] > > >Subject: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. > > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:39:13 -0000 > > > > > ><< Chairman_sofficialstatement(MRDGUK).doc >> > > > > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:48:12 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Madiba Saidy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ramadan - 1 (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sawm and the Fasting of Ramadan What is Sawm? Sawm or Fasting, during the holy month of Ramadan is the fourth pillar of Islam. The fast is an act of deep personal worship in which Muslims seek a richer perception of God. Sawm during Ramadan or any time is recognized as physically demanding but spiritually rewarding. It is the duty of all healthy Muslims to observe the fast for this whole month. It is done so that we will know what humility really is. Fasting is also an exercise in self-control whereby one's sensitivity is heightened to the sufferings of the poor. Who is it prescribed upon? Fasting of Ramadan is a worship act which ordained upon every adult Muslim, male or female if he/she is mentally and physically fit and not on a journey. Exceptions: women during their period of menstruation and while nursing their child, and also in case of travel and sickness for both men and women. If they are physically unable to do this, they must feed a needy person for every day missed. Abstention and self control Abstention means abstention completely from eating, drinking and intimate sexual contact from dawn to sunset and curbing even the smallest of evil intentions and desires. It is not a month of starvation since nutrition and hydration are ensured at night although it is recommended to be taken in a mood of asceticism. As one conquers the daily habits and endures hunger and thirst, Ramadan furnishes a first class drill in self-restraint and will power (and what would humanity be if the faculty of self restraint is gone?) Eating and Drinking Ramadan also is a joyful month. Muslims break their fast at sunset with a special meal, iftar, "break-fast; "perform additional worship, tarawih, after evening prayer; and throng the streets in moods that are festive and communal. Improving physical and mental health A fast does have positive health benefits, the stomach has been working for 24 hours a day non stop fasting will give it a rest. Although beneficial to health it is regarded principally as a method of self-purification. By cutting oneself off from worldly comforts, even for a short time, a fasting person gains true sympathy with those who go hungry as well as growth in one's spiritual life. Fasting is a very enriching experience as one transcends the needs of our material component and cherishes the spiritual. The month feels like going "into maintenance" and is almost like charging your batteries for the rest of the year. Teaching Mankind It teaches man the principle of sincere love to God. Fasting teaches man patience, unselfishness, moderation, willpower, discipline, spirit of social belonging, unity and brotherhood. It is not difficult to do so and this is only for one month. Is it too much to ask? The poor are forced to do it for the 24 hours a day all year round. When we know how lucky we are to live a comfortable live and our duty next is to help the poor. When does it occur? Ramadan is the ninth month in the Islamic calendar. It begins with the sighting of the new moon. The month of Ramadan is part of the lunar calendar, and since this is eleven days shorter than the Gregorian calendar, Ramadan comes eleven days earlier every year which allows fasting in various seasons and weather throughout a life time. What happens at the End of Ramadan Intensified worship and charity are a feature of the month. At its conclusion Muslims perform a special collective morning prayer. Celebration start at the end of the Eid with a spirit of joyous achievement by four days of celebration called eid al-fitr, the feast of the Breaking of the Fast. Customarily, it is a time for family reunion and the favored holiday for children who receive new clothing and gifts from family members and friends. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:48:49 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Madiba Saidy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ramadan - 2 (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A Muslim's thoughts on Ramadhan Ramadhan is always a great time for me. In my life, I'm always struggling with the ideal of putting God first in every aspect of my life. I know that God Alone should matter in my life, but in the hectic pace of life, ordinary mundane things start to crowd that feeling out. In Ramdahan, fasting from food, water and sex sets a context within which I can try to establish God's presence in my life. I also know that we are not supposed to only fast from food, drinks and sex, but from all lust, all hypocricy, all lies, all dishonesty, all backbiting and all evil. To my surprise, I am able to achieve that to some extent. I can carry that for some months. I think it is like the fourth or fifth month after Ramadhan that it starts to slacken. It was once said that the true meaning of Fasting is to Fast from anything that distracts you from Remembrance of God. I have loved that ever since I first read it. I think this became a shortcut for me to evaluate every situation before I get involved. Ramadhan also helps me in my day to day situation in one other way. No matter how bad the situation, I can look past it and say that as Quran says: "life of this world is but illusion." Once I have done my best, I should give the rest to Him. I know that His Will always work for my highest good, no matter how difficult it may seem at that time. His Will *always* work for our highest good. Everytime this faith has been proven true, and as time passes this faith turns and matures into Conviction. Hopefully, this Conviction, this Yaqeen, will translate into the rest of my life and in every month but Ramadhan. I feel very close to other human beings and the rest of creation as well. I am much more forgiving and accepting of my coworkers. I am more liable to overlook their frailties and petty jealousies. I'm like a man who knows that at the end of the day there is a pot of gold that awaits him. Every offering of love we make to Him and His creation, brings us that much closer to Goal. The Goal of The Eternal Bliss, where Allah, the Beloved God will lift the Veil from His Beautiful Face and reveal it to us in all its Splendor, Glory and Beauty. I long for that day. Yes, I do long for that day. I long for the day that I will earn the privilege of being in company of Prophet Muhammad, Prophet Jesus, Prophet Abraham, Prophet Moses (may God's Peace and Blessings be upon them all). Then all the worries and problems become petty annoyances. And the mind becomes a little quiet, a little more quiet and a little more quiet, until I hear the quiver of that fragile flame of love and faith in my heart of hearts. It is like when we go to Pilgrimage to Mecca we don our coffins by symbolizing our deaths from this world and we exclaim at the top of our lungs: I have come my Lord, I have come. If only I could do a minor pilgrimage to Him every day of my life by exclaiming through my life and effort: I have come, my Lord, I have come. I have come to you and I won't go, I have come and don't let me stray. I have come, so make me yours. For verily Allah has promised in His Quran: "Certainly we are His, and to Him shall we return." For the short term, I long for the day when the fact that God Alone Matters, and He Alone is Worthy of Love, Worship and Surrender and He Alone is God, will no longer be just intellectual convictions. They will become the staff of my existence. They will become my constant companion, they will be my everyday Experience. Until then, I must help that goal piece-meal by trying to establish His Constant Presence in my life. The only way I know that is to Remember Him constantly, no matter what I am doing. The second step is to observe that Ritual Space with constancy and perseverance, where I break the continuity of time and space and establish his Remembrance through prayer at certain times of day. That time and space only belongs to Him. My heart belongs to Him, and then this external space and this external time I have devoted to His Remembrance. In the midst of a hectic life, in the midst of a secular culture, five times a day,I strive to come in His presence and surrender at least for that brief discontinuity in the humdrum of life and I try to do it as dutifully as possible. I hope this presence of God will persist all through the year until the next Ramadhan comes and I will have no room for anyone but Him and His Lovers and loved ones. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:41:11 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: mbyefaal <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi All, Does anyone know how to unsubscribe from the list, i have reached my quota for my mailbox. Please help ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:19:01 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed He will be missed by family and friends all over. May he rest in perfect peace. >From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:40:33 +0000 > >The late Cherno Mundow Jagne family of Lancaster,Primet,Hill Street and >the Kombos regret to announce the death of Ali Jagne formally of The >Ports Authority. He died this morning. Ali Was a kind hearted man who >shared all he had with his family and friends at the time he had the >means to do so. He adored his children like angels. Our condolence to >the entire Jagne family. May his soul rest in peace. > >Chi Jamma, >Bro Tejan. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:29:30 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: My Ramadan Message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saikss: The truth hurts and although certain Drammehs may try to shout and yell, I CAN attest to the fact that they stay up all night eating, so that they would not get hungry during the day. I know another Drammeh, who said she is going to the doctor today because she THINKS her ulcers are bothering her and she cannot observe Ramadan. I can go on and on, but like they say, Sutara is good and you figure out the rest of that! To the new subscribers of Gambia-L, I host an Islamic discussion group called [log in to unmask] If anyone is interested in sharing/gaining knowledge about Islam, please e-mail me a subscription request at [log in to unmask] May Allah accept our Duahs during the holy month of Ramadan. Ameen. Regards, Awa Sey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:43:18 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Saikou Samateh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Sis, I know you know them better,thank you for that infor.Food for these people is everything,Sutura is very important. For Freedom Saiks ----- Original Message ----- From: <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 10:29 PM Subject: My Ramadan Message > Saikss: > > The truth hurts and although certain Drammehs may try to shout and yell, I > CAN attest to the fact that they stay up all night eating, so that they would > not get hungry during the day. I know another Drammeh, who said she is going > to the doctor today because she THINKS her ulcers are bothering her and she > cannot observe Ramadan. I can go on and on, but like they say, Sutara is > good and you figure out the rest of that! > > To the new subscribers of Gambia-L, I host an Islamic discussion group called > [log in to unmask] If anyone is interested in sharing/gaining > knowledge about Islam, please e-mail me a subscription request at > [log in to unmask] > > May Allah accept our Duahs during the holy month of Ramadan. Ameen. > > Regards, > > > Awa Sey > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:52:06 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Madiba Saidy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Testing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is just a test. Please ignore. Madiba. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:55:34 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Madiba Saidy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ramadan - 1 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thought I sent this earllier in the day, yes? Sorry for the duplication, in case I did. Madiba. On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, Madiba Saidy wrote: > Sawm and the Fasting of Ramadan > > > What is Sawm? > Sawm or Fasting, during the holy month of Ramadan is the fourth pillar of > Islam. The fast is an act of deep personal worship in which Muslims seek a > richer perception of God. Sawm during Ramadan or any time is recognized as > physically demanding but spiritually rewarding. > > It is the duty of all healthy Muslims to observe the fast for this whole > month. It is done so that we will know what humility really is. Fasting is > also an exercise in self-control whereby one's sensitivity is heightened to > the sufferings of the poor. > > Who is it prescribed upon? > Fasting of Ramadan is a worship act which ordained upon every adult Muslim, > male or female if he/she is mentally and physically fit and not on a > journey. Exceptions: women during their period of menstruation and while > nursing their child, and also in case of travel and sickness for both men > and women. If they are physically unable to do this, they must feed a needy > person for every day missed. > > Abstention and self control > Abstention means abstention completely from eating, drinking and intimate > sexual contact from dawn to sunset and curbing even the smallest of evil > intentions and desires. > It is not a month of starvation since nutrition and hydration are ensured at > night although it is recommended to be taken in a mood of asceticism. As one > conquers the daily habits and endures hunger and thirst, Ramadan furnishes a > first class drill in self-restraint and will power (and what would humanity > be if the faculty of self restraint is gone?) > > Eating and Drinking > Ramadan also is a joyful month. Muslims break their fast at sunset with a > special meal, iftar, "break-fast; "perform additional worship, tarawih, > after evening prayer; and throng the streets in moods that are festive and > communal. > > Improving physical and mental health > A fast does have positive health benefits, the stomach has been working for > 24 hours a day non stop fasting will give it a rest. Although beneficial to > health it is regarded principally as a method of self-purification. By > cutting oneself off from worldly comforts, even for a short time, a fasting > person gains true sympathy with those who go hungry as well as growth in > one's spiritual life. Fasting is a very enriching experience as one > transcends the needs of our material component and cherishes the spiritual. > The month feels like going "into maintenance" and is almost like charging > your batteries for the rest of the year. > > Teaching Mankind > It teaches man the principle of sincere love to God. Fasting teaches man > patience, unselfishness, moderation, willpower, discipline, spirit of social > belonging, unity and brotherhood. > It is not difficult to do so and this is only for one month. Is it too much > to ask? The poor are forced to do it for the 24 hours a day all year round. > When we know how lucky we are to live a comfortable live and our duty next > is to help the poor. > > When does it occur? > Ramadan is the ninth month in the Islamic calendar. It begins with the > sighting of the new moon. The month of Ramadan is part of the lunar > calendar, and since this is eleven days shorter than the Gregorian calendar, > Ramadan comes eleven days earlier every year which allows fasting in various > seasons and weather throughout a life time. > > What happens at the End of Ramadan > Intensified worship and charity are a feature of the month. At its > conclusion Muslims perform a special collective morning prayer. Celebration > start at the end of the Eid with a spirit of joyous achievement by four days > of celebration called eid al-fitr, the feast of the Breaking of the Fast. > Customarily, it is a time for family reunion and the favored holiday for > children who receive new clothing and gifts from family members and friends. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:13:55 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Alimenta case costing Gambia in excess of $12 million Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gambia-L: The unedited e-mail below came from one of my unimpeachable sources in the heart of the Gambian Government. Can someone help me here? Did I truly read in today's issue of the Daily Observer (on the Net) that Buba Baldeh, of all people, is the paper's new Managing Director. Anyway, I'll find some time tommorow evening and send some comments on this latest development at the Observer. Ebrima Ceesay, Birmingham, UK _________________________________________________________________________ >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Alimenta case costing Gambia in excess of $12 million >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 > >Ebrima, > >The groundnut problem that has dogged this government since its inception >will not go away, according to KB. In concurring with KB, I might add that >the problem with Alimenta, caused entirely by Baba Jobe and subsequently >aggravated by Yahya Jammeh and his numerous Attorney Generals since the >inception, has started costing us in earnest after an 'out of arbitration' >settlement to the tune of $12 million in Geneva. This figure excludes >lawyers fees and other expenses related to cases of this nature. > >I fully agree with KB that not only does Cheyassin Secka lack the >wherewithal to pursue the case in arbitration and in fact even lacks the >ability to negotiate for an amicable resolution of the matter with Alimenta >as strongly recommended by the World Bank. In fact, the Attorney General >himself lacks the ability and the skills to pursue this case in >arbitration. He also lacks experienced lawyers in his Chambers to pursue >the case in court, as weak as the case is, and against one of the most >influential firms in the international oil seeds business. Thus he resorted >to contracting the services of a Ghanaian lawyer, former Solicitor-General >and Deputy Attorney General of Ghana, former Chairman of the Ghana >Constitutional Commission, former professor of Law in Internatonal business >transactions at Howard university in Washington DC to lead the >negotiations. How much his fees are going to cost the Gambian people is >anybody's guess since the Jammeh regime has no respect for transparency and >thus do not tender for the services rendered to it by outside consultants. >The gentleman laywer is also advising Cheyassin Secka on the proposed >Constitutional changes. > >One thing I know for certain, however, is that the $12 million damages that >the Government has to pay is not in the kitty as we speak. This situation >makes it all the more tempting for these fiscally ill-desciplined >cylsostomes to further raid the Central Bank and the Social Security and >Housing Finace Corporation. They have done so during the two previous trade >seasons, I see no reason why they cannot repeat it. It has become a habit >for these nincompoops to raid these institutions to finance their >childhood-fantacy projects. > >The problem facing Yahya Jammeh, Cheyassin Secka , Amadou Samba, Tarik Musa >and,to a lesser extent Modou Dibba,(Yes KB, it is the same homeless, >carless, disgraced Modou Dibba, courtesy of Yahya Jammeh), is how to lay >their hands on the expected external resources to finance crop purchases >this year now that the Alimenta case seems to have been settled, although >more payment has been made to Alimenta, neither by Government nor by the >European Union. They expect to control the Denton Bridge facility and thus >fend off any competition; something the donors will refuse to accept. This >year, the buying season must be free of any artificial barriers to entry. > >As the season unfolds, it will become more discernable that the HILO >company bit is nothing but a front for Yahya and his cronies to access the >European Union money (the first tranche estimated to be about $5 million) >earmarked for crop financing. All eyes are on The Gambia from Washington, >Brussels, and even London on this year's groundnut season and particularly >how Yahya Jammeh and his crooked cronies behave during this critical >period. > >The Gambia finds itself in this mess because of one man, BABA JOBE. He was >the one who led some security elements into the Denton Bridge premises and >seize the property which rightfully belongs to Alimenta. Yahya Jammeh >turned around and accused Alimenta of money laundering, a claim they cannot >prove in court and in fact, it is considered slanderous by one of the >world's leading companies in oil seeds marketing. Thanks to Baba Jobe and >the Lybians, Gambians would have to dish out a minimum of $12 million to >pay off Alimenta for the wrongfull seizure of their property. > >Ebrima, we will wait and see if the Atlanta folks can come up with any >information on the HILO company and how is the driving force behind it. A >company whose capitalisation is a measly $130,000 cannot be serious about >getting into the $30-40 million groundnut business in The Gambia . > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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This just goes to reinforce the arrogance and misguided principles of
the Jammeh regime.  Why couldn't he do what the rest of the world is
doing; wait for the Florida election vote count to be sorted out and
a clear winner be decided?

I am sure they are just doing this to get the good graces of a
potential Bush government.  But we will be here making sure that the
Clinton administration's policy be continued until they (Jammeh
regime) adhere to democratic principles and respect for human rights.

YND



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Tuesday, 28 November, 2000, 15:32 GMT
Gambia's premature congratulation
President Yayah Jammeh
President Jammeh: Diplomatic error
By Ebraima Sillah in Banjul

Gambia's President Yayah Jammeh has been criticised by opposition figures for sending a congratulatory message to United States Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush.


Although a lot of people here are happy that the only country in Africa George W Bush has ever visited is the Gambia... they openly support the democratic candidate, Vice President Al Gore

Civil servants are also said to be critical of the letter.

The US Government has not yet restored aid to the Gambia, cut by President Clinton's democratic administration after Mr Jammeh seized power in a military coup.

The letter was phrased in flowery, diplomatic language.

"Mr President-elect, following your election and victory in the just concluded elections to the exalted position of president of your great country, it gives me much pleasure and deep honour to warmly congratulate you and convey very cordial greetings on my own behalf and on behalf of the government and people of the Gambia.

George W Bush receives a gift from a supporter
Mr Bush: Handed the gift of early recognition
"It is my strong conviction and resolve that together we can make the US/Gambia relationship and co-operation more fruitful and prosperous."

In conclusion, Mr Jammeh said he looked forward to working closely with George W Bush to strengthen international peace and consolidate bilateral relationship between the Gambia and the United State.

'Wrong signal'

However, Mr Jammeh's message to Mr Bush did not go down well with many Gambians.


An opposition politician described Mr Jammeh's message as bizarre and immature

They accused him of sending the wrong signal by congratulating George W Bush on his victory when the matter is still being challenged in the courts.

An opposition politician described Mr Jammeh's message as bizarre and immature.

He decribed Mr Jammeh and his foreign policy advisers as adventurous toddlers who have very little understanding of international politics and diplomacy.

In private a number of top civil servants have also admitted a serious protocol error on the part of the president, saying he should have waited until the final outcome is determined.

Currying favour?

Many people here also interpret the president's move as an attempt to pull George W. Bush onto his side following strained diplomatic relations between the Gambia and the present Democrat-led government.

Vice President Al Gore
Many Gambians say they support Al Gore
In 1994 the US Government suspended all direct aid to the Gambia following a military coup led by Mr Jammeh.

The ban is still effective because the US Government maintains that the elections which brought Mr Jammeh to power were neither free nor fair.

Although a lot of people here are happy that the only country in Africa George W Bush has ever visited is the Gambia when he came for the silver jubilee celebrations in 1990, they openly support the democratic candidate, Vice President Al Gore.

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BUBA BALDEH IS NEW OBSERVER MD
- VOWS TO UPHOLD EDITORIAL INDEPENDENCE

The former PPP minister for Youths, Sports and Culture, now deputy national mobiliser of the APRC, Buba Baldeh, has been appointed managing director of the Observer Company with effect from November 24.

Mr Baldeh, who called at the Daily Observer officers yesterday afternoon to announce his new appointment, replaces Sarriang Ceesay. Mr Ceesay has been on vacation in the United States for the past two months. Unconfirmed sources said Mr Ceesay, who is expected in Banjul early next week, may land a job in the Gambia civil service.

Sarriang Ceesay was the director general of Customs and Excise and later ran a private consultancy before heading the Observer Company in May 1999 following the acquisition of the company by tycoon, Amadou Samba. In an interview shortly after he visited various departments of the company yesterday afternoon, Mr Baldeh affirmed his allegiance to Amadou Samba and said he will "live up to expectations".

Mr Baldeh denied his appointment was a calculated move to blunt the objective edge of the newspaper by some interested groups in the APRC party. "I am not aware of any APRC clique in the first instance and the paper does not belong to the APRC.

This paper belongs to Mr Amadou Samba, who is my employer and therefore, I can only say my allegiance is to the company, to the paper and to the proprietor." The proprietor of Observer Company, Amadou Samba, is viewed in many quarters as a close associate of President Yahya Jammeh.

Editorial independence
Mr Baldeh promised that he will not interfere with the editorial independence of the Daily Observer. "That is absolutely vital if we are to march forward. My new appointment is a big challenge, but I promise to live up to expectations.

Certainly, I have no journalistic experience as such, but in my capacity as managing director, I do not have to be a journalist as such. I have been an administrator all my life. I have headed several government and other institutions in this country. My job here as managing director is, far different from that of editor-in-chief or other journalists. My business will purely be that of management and facilitating and creating the right environment for all the various departments in this company function to the satisfaction of all Gambians, and certainly, the proprietor." Mr Baldeh recalled that when Amadou Samba bought the Observer in 1999, "there were a lot speculations.

Mr Samba is a friend to the APRC, et cetera, et cetera. But this speculation will be laid to rest very soon. Daily Observer will continue with its balance reporting without fear or favour. My connections with the APRC, which is as a result of my own political convictions, has got nothing to do with the independence of the Observer, particularly the editorial section of the paper. It is a newspaper and therefore all the stories will be carried in it like any newspaper in this country. The foundation of good work that has been done by my predecessor, Sarriang Ceesay, will be built upon.

I am a supporter of President Yahya Jammeh but I have no intention, let me repeat this, I have no intention whatsoever, of interfering in the editorial set-up of this company. In the event that there are complaints from the public or from anybody over articles, over stories, I am sure those complaints will be looked into.

I can say that the policy that has been here since Mr Samba took over, that policy has to stay." Mr Baldeh added, "Despite the speculations and criticisms, the Observer still has the largest circulation. It is the biggest newspaper company. It's well organised and both the permanent staff and those on freelance are doing an excellent job."

Priorities
Commenting on his new priorities, Mr Baldeh said he would maintain the credibility of the paper and that he would embark on an aggressive marketing campaign so that the paper can generate revenue. He promised to promote the staff based on merits, especially those staff who are hard-working.

 

Jammeh congratulates 'President-Elect' George Bush

A few hours after the Florida secretary of state certified the Florida recount votes and Republican candidate, George W Bush, declared himself winner of the US presidential election, the Gambian president, Yahya Jammeh, sent a congratulatory message to the new US 'president-elect'.

The message reads: "Mr President-Elect, Following your election and victory in the just concluded elections to the exalted positions of president of your great country, it gives me much pleasure and deep honour to warmly congratulate you and convey very cordial greetings on my own behalf and on behalf of the Government and people of The Gambia. "It is my strong conviction and resolve that together we can make United States/Gambia friendship and cooperation more fruitful and prosperous.

I therefore look forward to working closely with you to further strengthen international peace and consolidate our bilateral relations in the mutual best interests of our two countries and peoples as well as humankind. May I also take this opportunity to wish you a very successful tenure of office.
Please accept, Mr President, the assurances of my highest consideration

signed Yahya AJJ Jammeh
President of the Republic of The Gambia." However, Mr Bush's Democratic opponent, Al Gore, has filed fresh new legal challenges in court contesting the results.

Absence of state counsels delay commission's work

The chairman of the commission of inquiry into the Auditor General's Report, Justice Gelega King, has lamented the numerous absence of state counsels attached to the commission which he said has delayed the proceedings of the commission. Because of the absence of state counsels, the commission could not hear the evidence of the chairman of the Kanifing Municipal Council, Abdoulai Conteh, and Ms Ramatoulie Othman, manager of Trust Bank, Bakau branch.

The KMC chairman is being investigated in connection with per diem allowances he allegedly received. The Auditor General's Report discovered that D65,359.40 "appeared to have been overspent" on per diem allowances of KMC officials on official missions abroad. The council was said to have failed to obtain the required approval for overseas travel from the department of state for Local Government.

The purpose of the overseas trips were often not stated, the report stated. In a brief statement, Justice Gelega King said, "Senior state counsel Savage, I am informed, returned from abroad yesterday and wishes to take today (Monday) off to recover from the effect of his travels. Counsel Jawara, we are told is indisposed. We have not succeeded in obtaining the services of any other official to deputise these two officials and inevitably we have to adjourn.

I think it is timely to state that the commission's work is being slowed down by these absence and we trust that all possible steps will be taken to ensure that counsel is available at all times to conduct the work of the commission, so that we can conclude proceedings as quickly as possible, within the shortest possible time." The commission resumes sittings today.

 

Carousel berths again

Carousel, a Sun Cruises (an Airtours subsidiary) owned four-star cruise ship, berthed again yesterday morning at the Banjul ports, carrying about 1200 mainly English tourists in 525 cabins.

The cruise ship which has an outdoor pool and gymnasium and 400 crew members had earlier berthed at the ports on November 14, carrying the same number of tourists. Speaking at a cocktail reception hosted in the ship yesterday, Tourism secretary, Yankuba Touray, expressed satisfaction with the quality of the cruise ship, saying its clients are the type of up-market tourists that the destination needs. SoS Touray informed the gathering mainly made up of tourism stakeholders, that the government has been improving the country's tourism infrastructure to meet the needs of such clients.

He later presented the ship captain, John Brocklehurst, with a kora described by Tourism director, Momodou MBO Cham, as one of the oldest musical instruments in West Africa and a very important tool for oral tradition. Responding, Captain Brocklehurst said Sun Cruises is happy to bring tourists to The Gambia, extolling it as a good destination loved by Sun Cruises clients for its good weather and friendly people.

He also, in turn, presented SoS Touray with a plaque, which, he said, is a tradition at Sun Cruises. Captain Brocklehurst who has been cruising for five years, prior to which he was sailing cross-channel ferries in the UK, told Daily Observer that another thing that will attract similar cruise ships to the destination is "the very good dock at Banjul ports.

Besides, the immigration formalities are quick." He said Sun Cruises take pride in the fact that their clients always have good value for their money in their two-week trip. For his part, Clive Ramshaw, the hotel director, said he is looking forward to a time when some Gambians will be waiters in the cruise ship "since Gambians are genuinely helpful and friendly" to the admiration of visitors.

Carousel passengers, he explained, enjoy first class food in the Camelot Restaurant as well as entertainment in the Carousel Lounge, the Show Beat Lounge, the Midsummer's Night Lounge and the Casino. Rachel Ainshie, cruise director, remarked that their clients have experienced less hassles in The Gambia unlike in some other destinations in Africa. "If this friendly attitude continues, then The Gambia will be seeing more of Carousel," she promised.

The tourists set out for the holiday of a lifetime in Tenerife, Spain; sailed from there to Gran Canaria, also in Spain, and from there to Porto Grande in Cape Verde and then to Banjul for a day stop. >From Banjul, they will sail to Dakar, Senegal and back to Gran Canaria from where they will sail to Madeira, La Palma and finally to Tenerife for disembarkation.

About 600 of them went on excursions "to discover what makes Gambia the Smiling Coast". Farma Njie, manager of the Cape Point-based destination management company, said they took the tourists to Juffureh and James Island, Abuko Nature Reserve and on a bush and beach safari, among others. "It is a very positive development," she opined, stressing Discovery Tours' preparedness to meet the excursion needs of Carousel tourists. The cruise ship will come again on March 27 and April 10, 2001.

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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Essa You will be surprised to know that the author of the National Anthem was a Gambian. I was once told that the late Rev J.C Faye was the author but this has to be verified. Perhaps you could contact Alhagji Cham Joof or the likes of Prince O`brien Coker and Sidi Sanneh for clarification. It is a pity that you haven`t realised that "God" means Allah in Arabic.The word "God"must have been used on the basis that it was written and always sang in English. The lyrics of our national anthem has shown no sign of embracing any religious faith. Instead, it sounds universal and the question as to whether it has a christian value is out of the question. I would have agreed with you if the national anthem had mentioned the word "lord" or Holy Spirit. On that note we look forward for clarification as to who the actual author was. >From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:05:30 -0000 > >Sister Jamila, > >With the same respects, I comment on your reply as ff: > >I am not talking about Spirituality, morality, or culture for that matter. >This is about religion. You may be right about their existence, long >before >religion, but why did religion come about? We must have been steering >off-course. > >The national anthem is preceded by slavery and colonialisation. I brought >it up because I am sure not many of us knew who wrote it. I only hope it >was someone Gambian. That composer is non-grata to this day. The national >anthem is not part of the past you dwelling on. My guess is that it was >non-existent prior to Feb '65 or April '70. So why not rewrite it? It is >a >nice piece, but the author is unknown. If we feed off it, I can only say >we >are headed in an unknown direction. What are your thoughts? > >Regards >Essa > > > >>From: Jamila Allston <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:37:05 -0800 >> >>Brother Wole, >> >> With all due respect in this holy time of Ramadan, I must ask why do >>we continue to deny who we are/were before the bringing about of Islam >>and Christanity throughout Africa. Why does it always come down to a >>war between Islam and Christanity? Didn't we as Africans have a >>wonderful sense of Spirtutaliy, Morality and Cultural before the advent >>of either religions? Why must we as Africans always have to deny our >>African roots, culture and customs? What is so wrong with embracing >>our African past and it's spirituality? And in our many African >>societies, it was understood that we were embracing a universal >>creator, regardless of the name that each group called him. >> >> These questions are asked with respect and sincerity. In fact, my >>sons are Muslims and one is fasting for Ramadan. Yet as an African >>born in America and brutality stripped of my African past via the >>horrific slave trade (reprentative of millions of us), the question >>becomes one of why bother trying to embrace my African past if these >>are my only two alternatives; alternatives that also require the denial >>of who we are/were as Africans prior to the acceptance of these >>alternatives as the "correct" and "only" way of life. >> >> Peace >> >> Jamila >> >>________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >>--- Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > Whether motivated by greed, ethnicity, or simply, a lust for power, >> > the >> > quest for dominance is always prevalent in Africa, and the West >> > alike. >> > Surely, we're yet to be blessed with a true leader who understands >> > the true >> > meaning of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. >> > >> > Who can honestly claim that this cyber forum is "fruitful", and bears >> > genuine results. Personally, I don't see the need to have 3,4,5,6, - >> > infinite organisations all fighting for the same purpose. If one >> > truly >> > wants to be part of this change, one must consider going back home >> > and have >> > one's vote counted (I don't need to hear about ballot politics, for >> > all I >> > know, that's option #1). As citizens of The Gambia, let's be >> > reminded once >> > more to uphold the TRUE meaning of our national anthem, ..."Let >> > JUSTICE >> > guide our actions, towards the common good." Cyberchatting won't >> > solve our >> > problems. Instead, it spreads the rumours. As much as we recite our >> > national anthem, has anyone ever stopped to think about who wrote it. >> > Obviously, that person must have thought we are a Christian country. >> > If I >> > had to edit it, I would probably rewrite the whole script. One word >> > I would >> > definitely change is, " GOD to ALLAH." >> > >> > Happy Ramadan to EVERYONE! ... >> > >> > Essa >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >From: "MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA (UK)" >> > > <[log in to unmask]> >> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >> > ><[log in to unmask]> >> > >To: [log in to unmask] >> > >Subject: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >> > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:39:13 -0000 >> > > >> > ><< Chairman_sofficialstatement(MRDGUK).doc >> >> > >> > >>_____________________________________________________________________________________ >> > Get more from the Web. 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According to a medical report from the Paediatric Unit of the Royal Victoria Hospital (R.V.H.), Pa Modou's convulsions are usually preceeded by fever. The report adds that they usually start while he is playing or when he gets angry. After undergoing treatment at the R.V.H. without much success, Pa Modou was referred to the Neurology department at Fann Hospital in Dakar, Senegal. According to his mother, Mrs Ndey Jobe of Latrikunda Sabiji, even though his treatment at Fann saw some improvement in his condition, he was still occasionally suffering from convulsion and seizures, and she has been advised that it can only be cured abroad. As a result of his condition Pa Modou is unable to go to school as he needs her constant attention. Therefore, she is appealing to NGOs and other phillanthropic organizations and concerned individuals for urgent assistance to enable Pa Modou to proceed abroad for the requisite treatment. Part of the above text is a reproduction from an issue of the Observer Newspaper which carried Pa Modou's story. This young boy and his mother need all the help they can get to proceed on treatment for Pa Modou. I therefore appeal to all persons who can help in any way possible to contant me Yusupha Fye GAMTEL - Abuko, by email at [log in to unmask] Anyone to has any medical advice or advice on how to get help can also contact me. Thank You. >From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:19:01 -0000 > >He will be missed by family and friends all over. May he rest in perfect >peace. > > >>From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT >>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:40:33 +0000 >> >>The late Cherno Mundow Jagne family of Lancaster,Primet,Hill Street and >>the Kombos regret to announce the death of Ali Jagne formally of The >>Ports Authority. He died this morning. Ali Was a kind hearted man who >>shared all he had with his family and friends at the time he had the >>means to do so. He adored his children like angels. Our condolence to >>the entire Jagne family. May his soul rest in peace. >> >>Chi Jamma, >>Bro Tejan. >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >>Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>You may also send subscription requests to >>[log in to unmask] >>if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write >>your >>full name and e-mail address. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. 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Bush has made it very = clear that Africa is NOT a PRIORITY.=20 I don't know who are the people advising The Prez. This is definitely a = wrong signal and unwarranted. To President-elect who? Too close to call = Prez Jammeh. Ain't over till it's over. EB.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Yahya Darboe=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 4:51 PM Subject: Re: Gambia's President Jumps the Gun This just goes to reinforce the arrogance and misguided principles = of=20 the Jammeh regime. Why couldn't he do what the rest of the world = is=20 doing; wait for the Florida election vote count to be sorted out = and=20 a clear winner be decided? I am sure they are just doing this to get the good graces of a=20 potential Bush government. But we will be here making sure that = the=20 Clinton administration's policy be continued until they (Jammeh=20 regime) adhere to democratic principles and respect for human = rights. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The words to our National Anthem were written by Mr. Thomasi, father to Marcell Thomasi, former Director of Information. The music is an adaptaion of a traditional Kora tune, the name of which escapes me. Prince can fill in the blanks. Sidi Sanneh >From: joey goswell <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:02:33 -0000 > >Essa > >You will be surprised to know that the author of the National Anthem was a >Gambian. I was once told that the late Rev J.C Faye was the author but this >has to be verified. Perhaps you could contact Alhagji Cham Joof or the >likes >of Prince O`brien Coker and Sidi Sanneh for clarification. > >It is a pity that you haven`t realised that "God" means Allah in Arabic.The >word "God"must have been used on the basis that it was written and always >sang in English. >The lyrics of our national anthem has shown no sign of embracing any >religious faith. Instead, it sounds universal and the question as to >whether >it has a christian value is out of the question. > >I would have agreed with you if the national anthem had mentioned the word >"lord" or Holy Spirit. > >On that note we look forward for clarification as to who the actual author >was. > > > > >>From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:05:30 -0000 >> >>Sister Jamila, >> >>With the same respects, I comment on your reply as ff: >> >>I am not talking about Spirituality, morality, or culture for that matter. >>This is about religion. You may be right about their existence, long >>before >>religion, but why did religion come about? We must have been steering >>off-course. >> >>The national anthem is preceded by slavery and colonialisation. I brought >>it up because I am sure not many of us knew who wrote it. I only hope it >>was someone Gambian. That composer is non-grata to this day. The >>national >>anthem is not part of the past you dwelling on. My guess is that it was >>non-existent prior to Feb '65 or April '70. So why not rewrite it? It is >>a >>nice piece, but the author is unknown. If we feed off it, I can only say >>we >>are headed in an unknown direction. What are your thoughts? >> >>Regards >>Essa >> >> >> >>>From: Jamila Allston <[log in to unmask]> >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >>>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:37:05 -0800 >>> >>>Brother Wole, >>> >>> With all due respect in this holy time of Ramadan, I must ask why do >>>we continue to deny who we are/were before the bringing about of Islam >>>and Christanity throughout Africa. Why does it always come down to a >>>war between Islam and Christanity? Didn't we as Africans have a >>>wonderful sense of Spirtutaliy, Morality and Cultural before the advent >>>of either religions? Why must we as Africans always have to deny our >>>African roots, culture and customs? What is so wrong with embracing >>>our African past and it's spirituality? And in our many African >>>societies, it was understood that we were embracing a universal >>>creator, regardless of the name that each group called him. >>> >>> These questions are asked with respect and sincerity. In fact, my >>>sons are Muslims and one is fasting for Ramadan. Yet as an African >>>born in America and brutality stripped of my African past via the >>>horrific slave trade (reprentative of millions of us), the question >>>becomes one of why bother trying to embrace my African past if these >>>are my only two alternatives; alternatives that also require the denial >>>of who we are/were as Africans prior to the acceptance of these >>>alternatives as the "correct" and "only" way of life. >>> >>> Peace >>> >>> Jamila >>> >>>________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>>--- Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> > Whether motivated by greed, ethnicity, or simply, a lust for power, >>> > the >>> > quest for dominance is always prevalent in Africa, and the West >>> > alike. >>> > Surely, we're yet to be blessed with a true leader who understands >>> > the true >>> > meaning of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. >>> > >>> > Who can honestly claim that this cyber forum is "fruitful", and bears >>> > genuine results. Personally, I don't see the need to have 3,4,5,6, - >>> > infinite organisations all fighting for the same purpose. If one >>> > truly >>> > wants to be part of this change, one must consider going back home >>> > and have >>> > one's vote counted (I don't need to hear about ballot politics, for >>> > all I >>> > know, that's option #1). As citizens of The Gambia, let's be >>> > reminded once >>> > more to uphold the TRUE meaning of our national anthem, ..."Let >>> > JUSTICE >>> > guide our actions, towards the common good." Cyberchatting won't >>> > solve our >>> > problems. Instead, it spreads the rumours. As much as we recite our >>> > national anthem, has anyone ever stopped to think about who wrote it. >>> > Obviously, that person must have thought we are a Christian country. >>> > If I >>> > had to edit it, I would probably rewrite the whole script. One word >>> > I would >>> > definitely change is, " GOD to ALLAH." >>> > >>> > Happy Ramadan to EVERYONE! ... >>> > >>> > Essa >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >From: "MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA (UK)" >>> > > <[log in to unmask]> >>> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>> > ><[log in to unmask]> >>> > >To: [log in to unmask] >>> > >Subject: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >>> > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:39:13 -0000 >>> > > >>> > ><< Chairman_sofficialstatement(MRDGUK).doc >> >>> > >>> > >>>_____________________________________________________________________________________ >>> > Get more from the Web. 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Dear Brothers and Sisters!=20 You can visit my site to read latest Friday Sermon from the Two Holy = Mosques in Makkah and Madina: http://www.kjharoonbasha.com=20 http://www.jummah.homepage.com=20 The Imams and Khateebs of the Two Holy Mosques in Makkah and Madina have = called on Muslims to be pious, fear God Almighty and take advantage of = the fasting month to turn to Allah and seek his favors through devotion = and worship. IN MAKKAH The Imam and Khateeb of the Grand Mosque in Makkah Sheikh Dr. Abdul = Rahman Al-Sedies in his Friday Sermon, November 24, 2000, urged Muslims = to avail themselves of the virtues and many good things inherent in the = holy month of Ramadan. He quoted the Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon = him) saying that when Ramadan comes the doors of Paradise are opened and = the doors of Hell-fire are closed, and Satan is shackled. Ramadan is a = great opportunity and an auspicious occasion for the minds to be clear = and serene, and the souls yearn for it. It is a time of profuse = supplications when mercies are sent down, degrees are raised up, slips = are forgiven, mistakes are pardoned and the doors of goodness are opened = for all who wish to enter the abode of virtue, he said. Sheikh Al-Sedies said individual person and nations need respite and = serenity to rejuvenate their faith and put right what has gone wrong. = The month of Ramadan is the time of spiritual meditation when the Muslim = Ummah contemplates on its past history and recollect its glory, and = reform its present situation. It is a time for and opportunity to rejuvenate one's spiritual power and = physical vigor that are needed for the renewal of faith to refine = manners, strengthen spirits, rectify souls and curb passions, he said. = He pointed out that fasting is a school for learning to give generously = and to rectify character. It is a rich source for obtaining mercy and = performing good deeds. "How beneficent the Muslim Ummah is while = preparing to receive the holy month of Ramadan to play its role of = preserving itself, to take stock of its position and reconsider its = stand. How needful we are to take inspiration from the wisdom of fasting = and benefit from its lessons and reap its fruits," he explained. He said the reception of Ramadan should be done through thanks and = praise of Allah, and with joy and bliss for witnessing this great = occasion. He advised Muslims to take advantage of the holy month and use = it as a propitious occasion for repentance from all sins, cessation of = wrongdoing, restoring rights to wronged ones, examination of one's = conscience and careful revision of one's actions. The days and nights of = Ramadan must be devoted to prayers and devotions in order to get God's = forgiveness from all past sins, as the Prophet of Islam (peace be upon = him) has asserted. Unless a person desists from falsehood and deeds of = ignorance during Ramadan God has no need for his leaving his food and = drinks, he quoted the Prophet's Hadith. IN MADINA In Madina, the Imam and Khateeb of the Prophet's Mosques Sheikh Salah = Bin Muhammad Al-Bedeir said in his Friday Sermon that Muslims, having = bidden farewell to the month of Shaban, are eager and anxious to welcome = Ramadan, a month of repentance, forgiveness, mercy and emancipation from = Hell-free. Elaborating on the virtue of Ramadan, he said it is a month honored and = exalted by God. A month during which the Qur'an was revealed, and in = which doors are opened for repentant. Fasting during Ramadan is one of = the pillars of Islam, and it is a time when sins are cleansed and = misdeeds atoned. He urged Muslims to avail themselves of the good things = in Ramadan, and said the best way to begin the holy month is by turning = to God and ask for His forgiveness, never despairing of His Mercy. He = highlighted the virtues of fasting and how God is pleased with those who = keep the fast and said a fasting person has two joys, once when he = breaks the fast and again when he meets the Lord with his fast. He said = there is a gate called Al-Rayyan in Paradise through which only fasting = people will enter on the Day of Judgment. He said fasting and the Qur'an intercede on behalf of a person on the = Day of Judgment, and on every day and night during Ramadan there is = forgiveness from sins, and prayers are answered and rewarded many times = over, especially performing prayers in congregation with Imam. Any one = who offers breakfast to a fasting person is granted an equal reward to = that of the fasting person. The best time for alms giving is in Ramadan, = he said, adding that performing Umrah in Ramadan is equivalent to = pilgrimage with the Prophet (peace be upon him). --------------------------End-------------------- The Holy Qur'an says: O you who have believed, decreed upon you is fasting as it was decreed = upon those before you that you may become righteous- (Fasting for) a limited number of days. So whoever among you is ill or = on a journey (during them)- then an equal number of days (are to be made = up). And upon those who are able (to fast, but with hardship)- a ransom = (as subsititute) of feeding a poor person (each day). And whoever = volunteers good (i.e., excess)- it is better for him. But to fast is = best for you, if you only knew. The month of Ramadan (is that) in which was revealed the Qur'an, a = guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion. So = whoever sights (the new moon of) the month, let him fast it; and whoever = is ill or on a journey- then an equal number of other days. Allah = intends for you ease and does not intend for you to complete the period = and to magnify Allah for that (to) which He has guided you; and perhaps = you will be grateful. (Surah 2; Ayat 183,184,185) Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) sayings: (Hadith) Abu Hurairah reported that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said; "Allah = Subhanawatala says: "All other deeds of man are for himself, but his = fasting is purely for Me and I shall reward him for it.=20 The fast is a shield. When any of you is fasting, he should eschew loose = talk and noisy exchanges. Should anyone revile him or seek to pick a = quarrel with him, he should respond by saying: "I am observing a fast.=20 By Him in Whose hands is the life of Muhammad (peace be upon him), the = breath of one who is fasting is purer in the sight of Allah than the = fragrance of musk.=20 One who fasts experiences two joys: he is joyful when he breaks his = fast, and he is joyful by virtue of his fast when he meets his Lord." DU'A (Supplication) Allah! We seek Your pleasure to guard against Your anger and Your mercy = to guard against Your punishment, how much we try to praise You, we = cannot praise You as much as You have praised Yourself. We ask You, our Lord, to give us a merit in this world and a merit in = the Hereafter, and to protect us from the agony of Fire. Allah! Save us from disease, agony, enemy's satire and ill fate. Let us = live a happy and healthy life and enjoin the same abode of martyrs and = the neighborhood of Prophets. O Allah give us patience to face difficult = times and to win against our enemies. Allah! Protect us during our stay on earth and under it and during the = Day of Judgment, O You All Merciful. Allah! We ask You to forgive our sins before we leave this place and to = let our good efforts be met with Your gratitude, our good deeds be = profitable and our deeds successful, O You the Most Merciful. Allah! Teach us what is useful and let us benefit from what You have = taught us. Allah! Guard us with Islam all the times whether we are standing, = sitting or lying. Protect us from the malicious acts of the enemy and = the envious. Allah! We ask You the guidance, piety, virtuousness and affluence. Allah! Let us be of those who do Halal things mentioned in the Qur'an = and avoid Haram things mentioned in it. Let us be of those who recite it = well and understand its explicit meanings as well as the hidden = meanings. Allah! Let the Qur'an be our means for the nice dresses and shadows and = attaining graces and avoiding curses, help us to recite it all day and = night in the way that pleases Your Lordship. O Allah! Let is be a cure = for our hearts and a remedy for our diseases and let is be our savior = from the Fire. Allah! Let us be amongst the people of the Qur'an Who are the closest = people of You. O You the Merciful of all. Allah! Purify our souls from hypocrisy, our tongues from lying and our = eyes from treachery. You know the treacherous eyes and what is buried in = the hearts. Allah! Let us be among those who called You and had their calls = accepted, those Who asked for Your guidance and were guided, who sought = Your victory and were given, who relied on You and were sufficed, and = those who repented and got their repentance accepted. Dear Brothers and Sisters!=20 You can visit my site to read latest Friday Sermon from the Two Holy = Mosques in Makkah and Madina: http://www.kjharoonbasha.com=20 http://www.jummah.homepage.com=20 Earn abundant reward from Allah Subhanawatala:=20 Spread the Message of Allah=20 IF YOUR FRIENDS OR RELATIVES WANT A COPY OF ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF = FRIDAY SERMON (JUMMAH KHUTBA DELIVERED AT MAKKAH AND MADINA) EVERY WEEK = BY EMAIL, PLEASE SEND THEIR EMAIL ADDRESSES TO: [log in to unmask] -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : = http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 06:46:39 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Words and music of the Gambian National Anthem Please let me apologise for being ingnorant of my own history. It has just been brought to my attention by none other than Ebrima Sagnia that the information I posted earlier was incorrect. Ebrima Sagnia's note to me reads as follows and please take this as the final word on the matter because of who Mr. Sagnia is: Quote "I just saw your e-mail to the G-L on this subject. The words of the anthem were written by a Mr. Howe, a colonial administrator who was then serving in Brikama as Commissioner of the Western Division. I do not remember his first name. He based the music on the Gambian kora tune Foday Kabba Dumbuya as rendered by Jali Nyama Suso. Marcel Thomasi's father designed the Gambian flag." Unquote Ebrima, thanks for reminding me of my own history and Happy Ramadan to you and the family. Sidi Sanneh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:05:10 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD: Ouattara's political future to be known by Saturday Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed ABIDJAN, Nov 28 (AFP) - Ivory Coast will know by Saturday at the latest whether controversial opposition leader Alassane Ouattara may stand in the December 10 general election, a senior court official said Tuesday. Nouplezana Ouattara told AFP that he had "transmitted voters' objections to certain candidacies to the Supreme Court on Monday" and that the court would announce its decision on "Friday or Saturday at the latest." The court has seven days from the November 25 deadline for registering objections to hand down a ruling. On November 22, the national electoral commission declared Ouattara, a former prime minister and leader of the Rally of Republicans (RDR), among those eligible to run for the national assembly. The Supreme Court had barred Ouattara from running for the presidential elections, held on October 22, because of doubts over his nationality, but conditions of eligibility are not so strict for a parliamentary seat. The barring of Ouattara and of Emile Constant Bombet of the former ruling Ivory Coast Democratic Party (PDCI) from the presidential race pushed the two parties to boycott the election organized by the junta that came to power in a coup December 24 1999. The court official did not reveal how many challenges had been received or against whom, but any registered elector is permitted to contest a candidacy. Challengers interviewed by AFP said they had objected among others to the candidacies of Ouattara, Bombet and Simone Gbagbo, wife of President Laurent Gbagbo. omj/crl/tm _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:59:47 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Madam Goswell, You wrote in your very first line: "You will be surprised to know that the author of the National Anthem was a Gambian." Madam, you have failed to establish the author of the national anthem. Therefore, I respectfully ask you to shut up, unless you are sure of what you're talking about. If you are so sure about your sources, why ask help elsewhere. And whoever said that older people are much more suscept to answer this question. History teaches both young and old my friend. Kindly get your facts together before jumping the gun. Regards Essa >From: joey goswell <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:02:33 -0000 > >Essa > >You will be surprised to know that the author of the National Anthem was a >Gambian. I was once told that the late Rev J.C Faye was the author but this >has to be verified. Perhaps you could contact Alhagji Cham Joof or the >likes >of Prince O`brien Coker and Sidi Sanneh for clarification. > >It is a pity that you haven`t realised that "God" means Allah in Arabic.The >word "God"must have been used on the basis that it was written and always >sang in English. >The lyrics of our national anthem has shown no sign of embracing any >religious faith. Instead, it sounds universal and the question as to >whether >it has a christian value is out of the question. > >I would have agreed with you if the national anthem had mentioned the word >"lord" or Holy Spirit. > >On that note we look forward for clarification as to who the actual author >was. > > > > >>From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:05:30 -0000 >> >>Sister Jamila, >> >>With the same respects, I comment on your reply as ff: >> >>I am not talking about Spirituality, morality, or culture for that matter. >>This is about religion. You may be right about their existence, long >>before >>religion, but why did religion come about? We must have been steering >>off-course. >> >>The national anthem is preceded by slavery and colonialisation. I brought >>it up because I am sure not many of us knew who wrote it. I only hope it >>was someone Gambian. That composer is non-grata to this day. The >>national >>anthem is not part of the past you dwelling on. My guess is that it was >>non-existent prior to Feb '65 or April '70. So why not rewrite it? It is >>a >>nice piece, but the author is unknown. If we feed off it, I can only say >>we >>are headed in an unknown direction. What are your thoughts? >> >>Regards >>Essa >> >> >> >>>From: Jamila Allston <[log in to unmask]> >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >>>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:37:05 -0800 >>> >>>Brother Wole, >>> >>> With all due respect in this holy time of Ramadan, I must ask why do >>>we continue to deny who we are/were before the bringing about of Islam >>>and Christanity throughout Africa. Why does it always come down to a >>>war between Islam and Christanity? Didn't we as Africans have a >>>wonderful sense of Spirtutaliy, Morality and Cultural before the advent >>>of either religions? Why must we as Africans always have to deny our >>>African roots, culture and customs? What is so wrong with embracing >>>our African past and it's spirituality? And in our many African >>>societies, it was understood that we were embracing a universal >>>creator, regardless of the name that each group called him. >>> >>> These questions are asked with respect and sincerity. In fact, my >>>sons are Muslims and one is fasting for Ramadan. Yet as an African >>>born in America and brutality stripped of my African past via the >>>horrific slave trade (reprentative of millions of us), the question >>>becomes one of why bother trying to embrace my African past if these >>>are my only two alternatives; alternatives that also require the denial >>>of who we are/were as Africans prior to the acceptance of these >>>alternatives as the "correct" and "only" way of life. >>> >>> Peace >>> >>> Jamila >>> >>>________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>>--- Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> > Whether motivated by greed, ethnicity, or simply, a lust for power, >>> > the >>> > quest for dominance is always prevalent in Africa, and the West >>> > alike. >>> > Surely, we're yet to be blessed with a true leader who understands >>> > the true >>> > meaning of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. >>> > >>> > Who can honestly claim that this cyber forum is "fruitful", and bears >>> > genuine results. Personally, I don't see the need to have 3,4,5,6, - >>> > infinite organisations all fighting for the same purpose. If one >>> > truly >>> > wants to be part of this change, one must consider going back home >>> > and have >>> > one's vote counted (I don't need to hear about ballot politics, for >>> > all I >>> > know, that's option #1). As citizens of The Gambia, let's be >>> > reminded once >>> > more to uphold the TRUE meaning of our national anthem, ..."Let >>> > JUSTICE >>> > guide our actions, towards the common good." Cyberchatting won't >>> > solve our >>> > problems. Instead, it spreads the rumours. As much as we recite our >>> > national anthem, has anyone ever stopped to think about who wrote it. >>> > Obviously, that person must have thought we are a Christian country. >>> > If I >>> > had to edit it, I would probably rewrite the whole script. One word >>> > I would >>> > definitely change is, " GOD to ALLAH." >>> > >>> > Happy Ramadan to EVERYONE! ... >>> > >>> > Essa >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >From: "MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA (UK)" >>> > > <[log in to unmask]> >>> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>> > ><[log in to unmask]> >>> > >To: [log in to unmask] >>> > >Subject: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >>> > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:39:13 -0000 >>> > > >>> > ><< Chairman_sofficialstatement(MRDGUK).doc >> >>> > >>> > >>>_____________________________________________________________________________________ >>> > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >>> > http://explorer.msn.com >>> > >>> > >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > >>> > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the >>> > Gambia-L >>> > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>> > You may also send subscription requests to >>> > [log in to unmask] >>> > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to >>> > write your full name and e-mail address. >>> > >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________ >>>Do You Yahoo!? >>>Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. >>>http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >>>Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>>You may also send subscription requests to >>>[log in to unmask] >>>if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write >>>your >>>full name and e-mail address. >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>_____________________________________________________________________________________ >>Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >>http://explorer.msn.com >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >>Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>You may also send subscription requests to >>[log in to unmask] >>if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write >>your >>full name and e-mail address. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:04:47 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Whatever bro. You may be right about the author, but I doubt the rest. Essa >From: Sidi M Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:45:26 -0000 > >The words to our National Anthem were written by Mr. Thomasi, father to >Marcell Thomasi, former Director of Information. The music is an adaptaion >of a traditional Kora tune, the name of which escapes me. Prince can fill >in >the blanks. > >Sidi Sanneh > > >>From: joey goswell <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:02:33 -0000 >> >>Essa >> >>You will be surprised to know that the author of the National Anthem was a >>Gambian. I was once told that the late Rev J.C Faye was the author but >>this >>has to be verified. Perhaps you could contact Alhagji Cham Joof or the >>likes >>of Prince O`brien Coker and Sidi Sanneh for clarification. >> >>It is a pity that you haven`t realised that "God" means Allah in >>Arabic.The >>word "God"must have been used on the basis that it was written and always >>sang in English. >>The lyrics of our national anthem has shown no sign of embracing any >>religious faith. Instead, it sounds universal and the question as to >>whether >>it has a christian value is out of the question. >> >>I would have agreed with you if the national anthem had mentioned the word >>"lord" or Holy Spirit. >> >>On that note we look forward for clarification as to who the actual author >>was. >> >> >> >> >>>From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >>>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:05:30 -0000 >>> >>>Sister Jamila, >>> >>>With the same respects, I comment on your reply as ff: >>> >>>I am not talking about Spirituality, morality, or culture for that >>>matter. >>>This is about religion. You may be right about their existence, long >>>before >>>religion, but why did religion come about? We must have been steering >>>off-course. >>> >>>The national anthem is preceded by slavery and colonialisation. I >>>brought >>>it up because I am sure not many of us knew who wrote it. I only hope it >>>was someone Gambian. That composer is non-grata to this day. The >>>national >>>anthem is not part of the past you dwelling on. My guess is that it was >>>non-existent prior to Feb '65 or April '70. So why not rewrite it? It >>>is >>>a >>>nice piece, but the author is unknown. If we feed off it, I can only say >>>we >>>are headed in an unknown direction. What are your thoughts? >>> >>>Regards >>>Essa >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: Jamila Allston <[log in to unmask]> >>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>>><[log in to unmask]> >>>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>>Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >>>>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:37:05 -0800 >>>> >>>>Brother Wole, >>>> >>>> With all due respect in this holy time of Ramadan, I must ask why do >>>>we continue to deny who we are/were before the bringing about of Islam >>>>and Christanity throughout Africa. Why does it always come down to a >>>>war between Islam and Christanity? Didn't we as Africans have a >>>>wonderful sense of Spirtutaliy, Morality and Cultural before the advent >>>>of either religions? Why must we as Africans always have to deny our >>>>African roots, culture and customs? What is so wrong with embracing >>>>our African past and it's spirituality? And in our many African >>>>societies, it was understood that we were embracing a universal >>>>creator, regardless of the name that each group called him. >>>> >>>> These questions are asked with respect and sincerity. In fact, my >>>>sons are Muslims and one is fasting for Ramadan. Yet as an African >>>>born in America and brutality stripped of my African past via the >>>>horrific slave trade (reprentative of millions of us), the question >>>>becomes one of why bother trying to embrace my African past if these >>>>are my only two alternatives; alternatives that also require the denial >>>>of who we are/were as Africans prior to the acceptance of these >>>>alternatives as the "correct" and "only" way of life. >>>> >>>> Peace >>>> >>>> Jamila >>>> >>>>________________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>>--- Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> > Whether motivated by greed, ethnicity, or simply, a lust for power, >>>> > the >>>> > quest for dominance is always prevalent in Africa, and the West >>>> > alike. >>>> > Surely, we're yet to be blessed with a true leader who understands >>>> > the true >>>> > meaning of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. >>>> > >>>> > Who can honestly claim that this cyber forum is "fruitful", and bears >>>> > genuine results. Personally, I don't see the need to have 3,4,5,6, - >>>> > infinite organisations all fighting for the same purpose. If one >>>> > truly >>>> > wants to be part of this change, one must consider going back home >>>> > and have >>>> > one's vote counted (I don't need to hear about ballot politics, for >>>> > all I >>>> > know, that's option #1). As citizens of The Gambia, let's be >>>> > reminded once >>>> > more to uphold the TRUE meaning of our national anthem, ..."Let >>>> > JUSTICE >>>> > guide our actions, towards the common good." Cyberchatting won't >>>> > solve our >>>> > problems. Instead, it spreads the rumours. As much as we recite our >>>> > national anthem, has anyone ever stopped to think about who wrote it. >>>> > Obviously, that person must have thought we are a Christian country. >>>> > If I >>>> > had to edit it, I would probably rewrite the whole script. One word >>>> > I would >>>> > definitely change is, " GOD to ALLAH." >>>> > >>>> > Happy Ramadan to EVERYONE! ... >>>> > >>>> > Essa >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >From: "MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA (UK)" >>>> > > <[log in to unmask]> >>>> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>>> > ><[log in to unmask]> >>>> > >To: [log in to unmask] >>>> > >Subject: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. >>>> > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:39:13 -0000 >>>> > > >>>> > ><< Chairman_sofficialstatement(MRDGUK).doc >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>>_____________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >>>> > http://explorer.msn.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> > >>>> > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the >>>> > Gambia-L >>>> > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>>> > You may also send subscription requests to >>>> > [log in to unmask] >>>> > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to >>>> > write your full name and e-mail address. >>>> > >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>>__________________________________________________ >>>>Do You Yahoo!? >>>>Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. 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Regards Essa >From: Sidi Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Words and music of the Gambian National Anthem >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 06:46:39 -0500 > >Please let me apologise for being ingnorant of my own history. It has just >been brought to my attention by none other than Ebrima Sagnia that the >information I posted earlier was incorrect. > >Ebrima Sagnia's note to me reads as follows and please take this as the >final word on the matter because of who Mr. Sagnia is: > >Quote "I just saw your e-mail to the G-L on this subject. The words of >the anthem were written by a Mr. Howe, a colonial administrator who was >then serving in Brikama as Commissioner of the Western Division. I do not >remember his first name. He based the music on the Gambian kora tune Foday >Kabba Dumbuya as rendered by Jali Nyama Suso. Marcel Thomasi's father >designed the Gambian flag." Unquote > >Ebrima, thanks for reminding me of my own history and Happy Ramadan to you >and the family. > >Sidi Sanneh > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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PEACE PASAMBA >From: Hamadi Banna <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Buba Baldeh at Daily Observer >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:51:59 -0500 > >Courtesy of the Daily Observer > >___________________________________________ > >Tuesday, November 28, 2000 > >BUBA BALDEH IS NEW OBSERVER MD >- VOWS TO UPHOLD EDITORIAL INDEPENDENCE > >The former PPP minister for Youths, Sports and Culture, now deputy national >mobiliser of the APRC, Buba Baldeh, has been appointed managing director of >the Observer Company with effect from November 24. > >Mr Baldeh, who called at the Daily Observer officers yesterday afternoon to >announce his new appointment, replaces Sarriang Ceesay. Mr Ceesay has been >on vacation in the United States for the past two months. Unconfirmed >sources said Mr Ceesay, who is expected in Banjul early next week, may land >a job in the Gambia civil service. > >Sarriang Ceesay was the director general of Customs and Excise and later >ran >a private consultancy before heading the Observer Company in May 1999 >following the acquisition of the company by tycoon, Amadou Samba. In an >interview shortly after he visited various departments of the company >yesterday afternoon, Mr Baldeh affirmed his allegiance to Amadou Samba and >said he will "live up to expectations". > >Mr Baldeh denied his appointment was a calculated move to blunt the >objective edge of the newspaper by some interested groups in the APRC >party. >"I am not aware of any APRC clique in the first instance and the paper does >not belong to the APRC. > >This paper belongs to Mr Amadou Samba, who is my employer and therefore, I >can only say my allegiance is to the company, to the paper and to the >proprietor." The proprietor of Observer Company, Amadou Samba, is viewed in >many quarters as a close associate of President Yahya Jammeh. > >Editorial independence >Mr Baldeh promised that he will not interfere with the editorial >independence of the Daily Observer. "That is absolutely vital if we are to >march forward. My new appointment is a big challenge, but I promise to live >up to expectations. > >Certainly, I have no journalistic experience as such, but in my capacity as >managing director, I do not have to be a journalist as such. I have been an >administrator all my life. I have headed several government and other >institutions in this country. My job here as managing director is, far >different from that of editor-in-chief or other journalists. My business >will purely be that of management and facilitating and creating the right >environment for all the various departments in this company function to the >satisfaction of all Gambians, and certainly, the proprietor." Mr Baldeh >recalled that when Amadou Samba bought the Observer in 1999, "there were a >lot speculations. > >Mr Samba is a friend to the APRC, et cetera, et cetera. But this >speculation >will be laid to rest very soon. Daily Observer will continue with its >balance reporting without fear or favour. My connections with the APRC, >which is as a result of my own political convictions, has got nothing to do >with the independence of the Observer, particularly the editorial section >of >the paper. It is a newspaper and therefore all the stories will be carried >in it like any newspaper in this country. The foundation of good work that >has been done by my predecessor, Sarriang Ceesay, will be built upon. > >I am a supporter of President Yahya Jammeh but I have no intention, let me >repeat this, I have no intention whatsoever, of interfering in the >editorial >set-up of this company. In the event that there are complaints from the >public or from anybody over articles, over stories, I am sure those >complaints will be looked into. > >I can say that the policy that has been here since Mr Samba took over, that >policy has to stay." Mr Baldeh added, "Despite the speculations and >criticisms, the Observer still has the largest circulation. It is the >biggest newspaper company. It's well organised and both the permanent staff >and those on freelance are doing an excellent job." > >Priorities >Commenting on his new priorities, Mr Baldeh said he would maintain the >credibility of the paper and that he would embark on an aggressive >marketing >campaign so that the paper can generate revenue. He promised to promote the >staff based on merits, especially those staff who are hard-working. > > > > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 08:54:08 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Madiba Saidy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ramadan - 3 (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Fasting Ramadhan and Zakat Al-Fitr By: Sheikh Mohammad bin Saleh Al-Othaimeen This treatise deals briefly with the practice, rules and benefits of fasting. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Islam, fasting is a religious ritual that involves abstaining from all food, drink, sexual activity, and certain other activities from dawn until sunset. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fasting the Month of Ramadan This communal religious obligation is one of the five pillars of Islam. It derives its important from the saying of the Prophet Muhammad that "Islam stands on five (pillars): To witness that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is His Prophet, to perform the required prayers, to pay the Zakat(poor-due), to fast the month of Ramadan, and to perform the pilgrimage to Makkah. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who Must Fast? Fasting is obligatory upon every adult Muslim who is sane, is able to perform it, and is not traveling. If he cannot meet any one of these conditions, he is excused from the fast without any penalty. Those who convert to Islam are not required to make up the fasts that they missed while they were still non-Muslims. Children are not required to fast until they reach a certain age. However, they should be encouraged as much as possible while they are still young to practice fasting by gradually expanding the time that they can observe it. Those who are insane, retarded, or somehow mentally impaired so that they do not (or cannot) function like normal people do not have to fast. They are not penalized in any way. The same is true for those who are very elderly and feel that they are unable to fast. Invalids such as very elderly persons or persons suffering from incurable illnesses are not required to fast. However they must compensate for this by feeding one needy person for every day of fasting that they miss. Those who fall ill unexpectedly and feel that their condition would worsen if they observed the fast are excused. After they recover, they must make up the fast by fasting the number of days that they missed. Pregnant and nursing mothers do not have to fast if they believe that it would cause them undue and unnecessary hardship or that it might harm the unborn child or the nursing infant. After this period of danger has passed, they must fast the number of days that they missed. Women who are having their menstrual period or experiencing bleeding due to recent child birth are not required to fast. They must make up the days that they have missed when their period or bleeding has finished. People who need to break the fast in order to save the life of someone else (i.e. being caught in a fire or drowning) are allowed to break their fast and to make it up at a later date. Those who are traveling are given the option of fasting or not. Those who choose not to fast during their journey must make it up after reaching their destination. This applies to all types of travel; for business, for personal reasons, or due to one's job (i.e. long distance haulers). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Actions That Affect One's Fast In Islam, there are specific guidelines that must be followed for the fast to be valid. Sometimes, however, these guidelines may be violated unknowingly. Examples of these are given below: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actions That Do Not Nullify One's Fast Eating or drinking something by mistake, without one's knowledge (i.e. he is asleep or unconscious), or being forced to do so. In the words of Allah: O our Lord, account us not if we forget or commit mistake. (2:286) ...except he who was forced (to commit against what Allah has ordained) and he is satisfied of the belief in his heart. (16:106) But there is no blame on you, if ye made a mistake there in. (What counts is) intention of your hearts.(33:5) As seen in the above verses, one's intention is critical. Thus, if a person forgets momentarily that he is fasting and eats or drinks something, his fast will no be broken, provided he did not do so intentionally. This is also true for one who believes that the sun has set or that the sun has not yet risen and so begins to eat. His mistake is not held against him if he believed sincerely that the fast was already over or had not yet begun. An unintentional swallowing of water while gargling or discharge of semen while sleeping are also viewed as not violating one's fast. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actions That Nullify One's Fast There are several actions that nullify immediately one's fast. Among these are the following: Engaging in sexual intercourse during the daylight hours during the month of Ramadan. If a person is guilt of this, he or she has to compensate for it by fasting in addition to freeing a slave. If he cannot do this, he must fast for sixty consecutive days. If this also not possible, he must feed sixty poor people who are hungry. Engaging in any activity that excites one to the point of causing a discharge of semen, such as self-gratification, caressing, hugging, kissing, and so on. Eating or drinking anything. This also includes smoking and the consumption of other items that are not really considered food items. (i.e. chewing gum or tobacco). Taking injections or dietary drugs used as food or drink substitutes. These are held to be just as good as the items they are meant to replace and are treated accordingly. Injections that have no food value are permitted, regardless of whether they are intramuscular or intravenous and whether or not they can be tasted. Post-childbirth menses and bleeding. The forced emission of blood through cupping or similar means. If one bleeds due to a normal event (i.e. a nose bleed or having a tooth extracted), his fast is considered as unaffected, for the blood that is emitted is done so naturally. This is also true of vomiting. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rules Of The Fast A person can state his intention to fast while he is ritually impure. After he has performed the necessary ablutions, he may begin his fast for the day. This must all be done before daybreak, when the daily fast starts. A woman coming out of her menses or child-birth bleeding before dawn must fast, even if she washes herself after dawn. It is permissible for a fasting person to apply ornaments, lotions, perfumes, and similar items to his head or body while he is fasting. However, he should avoid inhaling the smoke given off by burning incense. The use of ointments or medicine for medical reasons (i.e. tooth extraction, eye-drops, ear-drops) is also allowed, even if they can be tasted. Brushing one's teeth a siwak ( this is a twig from a certain kind of tree found in the Middle East and widely available in Muslim communities). The prophet said that it is desirable to use a siwak while fasting. A fasting person can cool himself with water, an air conditioner, or similar methods. It is permissible to use sprays designed to relive the pressure of asthma or similar afflictions that cause difficulty in breathing. It is allowed to wet one's lips or rinse the inside of one's mouth with water without gargling. It is desirable to delay slightly the pre-dawn meal and to hasten to break the fast at sunset. This is in accordance with the practice of the Prophet, whose actions serve as models for the pious Muslims to imitate. The fast is usually ended by eating several dates or, if dates are not available, by drinking some water. If no permitted food or drinks is available, the individual should simply make intention to break the fast and then actually do so as soon as he finds something that is permissible to eat or drink. For example, he cannot break his fast by eating pork or drinking alcohol, as these foods are prohibited in all circumstances, with the exception of those that are life-threatening. While he is fasting, he should make a greater effort to draw closer to Allah by increasing his level of adherence to what Allah has asked of him. One who is fasting should also perform his obligations and abstain from that which is prohibited. He should offer his daily prayers on time and in congregation (if it is obligatory upon him) and avoid lying, backbiting, deceiving someone, dealing in interest(usury), or indulging, either mentally or physically, in that which is prohibited. The prophet said:"One who does not give up forged speech and evil actions, Allah is not in need of his leaving his food and drink." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zakat Al-Fiter Zakat al-Fiter, which is part of the fast of Ramadan, is characterized by the following elements: It consists of approximately 2.5 kilograms (slightly more than one pound) of rice, wheat, dates, or similar food or items. It is not proper to give the Zakat al-Fiter in the form of money, clothes, or any other non-food items. However, one school of Islamic law-the Hanafites-say that one is allowed to give the Zakat al-Fiter in monetary form if he wishes to do so. It must be given on the day of Eid, which is known as Eid al-Fiter, and signifies the end of the month-long fast of Ramadan. It can also be paid one or two days before Eid al-Fiter. It cannot be given after the Eid prayer, unless one has a valid reason for such a delay. It should be given on behalf of every Muslim whether male or female, adult or minor. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 12:37:47 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Alimenta case costing Gambia in excess of $12 million Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Ebrima, you and your sources are doing a superb job revealing the corrupt and dubious activities of these bandits. See below the information I was able to find out about Hilo Trading. I hope this is the right corporation and these names will ring some bells in the ears of some of our subscribers in Atlanta. I will also try and do some further research in Delaware to see whether we can identify other owners of this entity. We must hold accountable the people that have the livelihood of our poor farmers in their hands. When we determine the people that are behind this scheme, we have to lobby them on behalf of the defenseless Gambians. It is heartless to take advantage of our farmers. These are people working under the worst conditions one can imagine. The least they demand, is to have the ability to sell their products at fair market prices. The opposition should fight for these people and not let Yaya and his cohorts take advantage of these people again. I respectfully urge the opposition to take Yaya to task on this issue again. Farmers must understand that Yaya is not their man. He and his team do not have what it takes to get us out of this mess. KB _______________________________________________________________________ HILO TRADING, INC. (FOREIGN PROFIT) 1144 CANTON STREET, SUITE 200ROSWELL, GA 30075 Control # Jurisdiction K921447 DELAWARE Registered Agent Agent Address WAYNE T. ELLIOTT 1144 CANTON STREET, SUITE 200 ROSWELL, GA 30075 HILO TRADING, INC. Corporate Officers CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER IAN B. PRENTICE 2787 LONG LAKE DRIVEROSWELL, GEORGIA 30075 >From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Alimenta case costing Gambia in excess of $12 million >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:13:55 -0000 > >Gambia-L: > >The unedited e-mail below came from one of my unimpeachable sources in the >heart of the Gambian Government. > >Can someone help me here? Did I truly read in today's issue of the Daily >Observer (on the Net) that Buba Baldeh, of all people, is the paper's new >Managing Director. Anyway, I'll find some time tommorow evening and send >some comments on this latest development at the Observer. > >Ebrima Ceesay, >Birmingham, UK >_________________________________________________________________________ > > >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Alimenta case costing Gambia in excess of $12 million >>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 >> >>Ebrima, >> >>The groundnut problem that has dogged this government since its inception >>will not go away, according to KB. In concurring with KB, I might add that >>the problem with Alimenta, caused entirely by Baba Jobe and subsequently >>aggravated by Yahya Jammeh and his numerous Attorney Generals since the >>inception, has started costing us in earnest after an 'out of arbitration' >>settlement to the tune of $12 million in Geneva. This figure excludes >>lawyers fees and other expenses related to cases of this nature. >> >>I fully agree with KB that not only does Cheyassin Secka lack the >>wherewithal to pursue the case in arbitration and in fact even lacks the >>ability to negotiate for an amicable resolution of the matter with >>Alimenta >>as strongly recommended by the World Bank. In fact, the Attorney General >>himself lacks the ability and the skills to pursue this case in >>arbitration. He also lacks experienced lawyers in his Chambers to pursue >>the case in court, as weak as the case is, and against one of the most >>influential firms in the international oil seeds business. Thus he >>resorted >>to contracting the services of a Ghanaian lawyer, former Solicitor-General >>and Deputy Attorney General of Ghana, former Chairman of the Ghana >>Constitutional Commission, former professor of Law in Internatonal >>business >>transactions at Howard university in Washington DC to lead the >>negotiations. How much his fees are going to cost the Gambian people is >>anybody's guess since the Jammeh regime has no respect for transparency >>and >>thus do not tender for the services rendered to it by outside consultants. >>The gentleman laywer is also advising Cheyassin Secka on the proposed >>Constitutional changes. >> >>One thing I know for certain, however, is that the $12 million damages >>that >>the Government has to pay is not in the kitty as we speak. This situation >>makes it all the more tempting for these fiscally ill-desciplined >>cylsostomes to further raid the Central Bank and the Social Security and >>Housing Finace Corporation. They have done so during the two previous >>trade >>seasons, I see no reason why they cannot repeat it. It has become a habit >>for these nincompoops to raid these institutions to finance their >>childhood-fantacy projects. >> >>The problem facing Yahya Jammeh, Cheyassin Secka , Amadou Samba, Tarik >>Musa >>and,to a lesser extent Modou Dibba,(Yes KB, it is the same homeless, >>carless, disgraced Modou Dibba, courtesy of Yahya Jammeh), is how to lay >>their hands on the expected external resources to finance crop purchases >>this year now that the Alimenta case seems to have been settled, although >>more payment has been made to Alimenta, neither by Government nor by the >>European Union. They expect to control the Denton Bridge facility and thus >>fend off any competition; something the donors will refuse to accept. This >>year, the buying season must be free of any artificial barriers to entry. >> >>As the season unfolds, it will become more discernable that the HILO >>company bit is nothing but a front for Yahya and his cronies to access the >>European Union money (the first tranche estimated to be about $5 million) >>earmarked for crop financing. All eyes are on The Gambia from Washington, >>Brussels, and even London on this year's groundnut season and particularly >>how Yahya Jammeh and his crooked cronies behave during this critical >>period. >> >>The Gambia finds itself in this mess because of one man, BABA JOBE. He >>was >>the one who led some security elements into the Denton Bridge premises and >>seize the property which rightfully belongs to Alimenta. Yahya Jammeh >>turned around and accused Alimenta of money laundering, a claim they >>cannot >>prove in court and in fact, it is considered slanderous by one of the >>world's leading companies in oil seeds marketing. Thanks to Baba Jobe and >>the Lybians, Gambians would have to dish out a minimum of $12 million to >>pay off Alimenta for the wrongfull seizure of their property. >> >>Ebrima, we will wait and see if the Atlanta folks can come up with any >>information on the HILO company and how is the driving force behind it. A >>company whose capitalisation is a measly $130,000 cannot be serious about >>getting into the $30-40 million groundnut business in The Gambia . >> > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:20:30 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Jeng, Beran" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD:UDP Will Boycott the Local Government Elections - Waa Juwara The Point (Banjul) November 29, 2000 Lamin Banjul Waa Juwara the national organising secretary of the opposition United Democratic Party (UDP) has declared that the UDP will boycott the local government elections in the five administrative areas of the country, if the proposed constitutional amendment to allow the appointment of district head chiefs and village headmen by the president is endorsed by the National Assembly. Mr. Juwara made this declaration at his Brikama residence recently. Mr. Juwara explained that good governance is representative governance and representative governance is government by the people. He stated that if the grassroots level, especially the common folks or those in the rural areas cannot elect their own district head chiefs and village headmen, then their representative local government have ceased to exist. Mr. Juwara further stated that the proposed constitutional amendment tantamounts to replacing white colonialism with black colonialism, which will render all the efforts in decentralisation of local government null and vold. Mr. Juwara asserted that if the amendment is endorsed, the APRC regime would be considered a de facto dictatorship. "If one man can appoint all the tiers of government ranging from the vice president, secretaries of state, divisional commissioners, chiefs and headmen, then democracy has ceased to exist in the Gambia," he said. Mr. Juwara pointed out that it is only a rubberstamp National Assembly that would endorse the proposed constitutional amendment bill that would give powers to the President to appoint village head chiefs and village headmen. He said the chieftaincy election in Sami is a clear manifestation that the people know what they want, better than the president. He further said that the APRC administration would be holding the people in contempt, if the administration seeks to take away the democratic power of choosing their own village head chiefs. Mr. Juwara wondered how the people who choose their president could be denied the right by the same president to choose their won local representatives at the district and village levels. Mr. Juwara warned that if the proposed constitutional amendment is endorsed, there would be open defiance. Mr. Juwara described the institution of the council of elders as a mockery, since they cannot decide who should lead them. He recounted that the colonial authorities had never interfered with our traditional institutions of governance, including our land tenure system. He noted that the institution of chieftaincy was used for indirect rule, but the Jammeh administration is using the institution for direct rule. Mr. Juwara further noted that the choice of head chiefs and village headmen were left to the district authorities in the First Republic, whilst the district authorities choice only gets the endorsement of the President. He asserted that ex-president Jawara never imposed district head chiefs and village headmen on the people. Mr. Juwara declared that local government does not only mean area councils, but the office of the commissioner, district head chiefs, village headmen and district authorities. The office of the commissioners, and district authorities have been politicised by the APRC administration, Mr. Juwara said. Mr. Juwara asserted that the APRC administration is aware that the people have disowned them, and that the APRC administration would be no more if the proposed constitutional amendment is passed to give powers to the President to appoint district chiefs. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:23:38 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Jeng, Beran" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FWD:Jambur, Alkalo Removed, Two UDP Supporters Detained The Point (Banjul) November 29, 2000 Banjul Fabakary B. Bojang, the alkalo of Jambur village has been removed and Kebba Juju Bojang appointed as the acting alkalo of the village, competent sources have disclosed. The chairman of the United Democratic Party (UDP) of Jambur village, Edrissa Bojang, and the vice chairman, Momodou Sally Bojang, were reportedly arrested and detained by the Brikama police over the weekend. According to eyewitnesses, on Sunday November 26, a meeting was convened at the village by the commissioner of Western Division, E K. Sarr, which was attended by the Kombo Central constituency MP, Abdou Badjie, the assistant commissioner, Lamin Jaiteh, and Kombo South constituency MP, Paul Mendy. It was announced at the meeting that Fabakary B. Bojang had been relieved of his functions as alkalo of Jambur village. It was revealed that a row broke out between the supporters of the ruling APRC and the two Edrissa Bojang and Momodou Sally Bojang, when the latter asked for permission to air their views.It was further revealed that after, Edrissa Bojang and Momodou S. Bojang left for their homes, they were later arrested at their homes at about 10.30 pm. on Sunday night by some police officers from the Brikama police station, who were accompanied by some APRC youth wing supporters in the village. The two were taken to Brikama police station and detained until on Monday afternoon, November 27, when they were reportedly released after the intervention of the commissioner of Western Division, E K. Sarr. It is however not clear why the two were arrested and detained by the police, and whether any charges were preferred against them. But sources disclosed that the two were arrested for attempting to disrupt the meeting, which the two men had denied. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:25:28 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gambia-L: The unedited e-mail below came from the managing director of HILO in the Gambia, Alan D Collins. He is reacting to my source's e-mail about his bogus company. The attachment came with a short covering letter in which he was threatening me. I will be sending the covering letter separately later on. Alan Collins: I think you are a real joker! Do you think you can threaten me? Well, you better do your home work about who Ebrima Ceesay is? Anyway, if time permits me, I'll give you a fitting response. Ebrima Ceesay Birmingham, UK ________________________________________________________________________ Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN November 27, 2000 I am in receipt of an e-mail sent from Gambia-L dated November 23rd 2000. Clearly, you hide behind a veil of anonymity. We do not. Cowards afraid of the truth hide in fear of being found out. Those of us who are trying to do things correctly are unafraid and can issue a statement from a known location, as we are now doing. Whoever wrote the e-mail is evidently completely unaware of the true state of affairs. In addition, the e-mail is not only scurrilous but, more seriously, libellous. The Gambian Government is not hoodwinking anyone. The recent ‘agreement’ reached between the parties represents a significant profit for Alimenta, far, far more than they ever achieved during their operations within The Gambia. It is you, and your ilk, that are attempting to hoodwink the People, no-one else. Hoodwinking the EU would be unthinkable, for surely it could not possibly be done? I am unaware of any Company being formed to act as a front for His Excellency Jammeh, leave aside one that buys Groundnuts. I may certainly state that Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd has been formed – as an offshoot from its American company – to buy groundnuts from the farmer of The Gambia. As The President of this company, I inform you that you commit a libel by printing a lie. I strongly suggest you cease and desist, and retract the ill-advised statements made to date. When I trace your whereabouts, and be assured I will, I shall take immediate legal action. Of course, you do not dare to back your statements by openly confronting me. Again, you prove your cowardice. The “raisons d’etre” of Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd are to ensure that the farmers are paid on time, to make a profit, as a private company is entitled so to do, and to recognize, and accept, the necessity for social, economic and political responsibility. The question of a monopoly: (I assume you meant ‘monopoly’ instead of ‘monolopy’?) It is the EU in reality that is truly trying to monopolise The Gambia, as it insidiously spreads its tentacles here and over an increasingly large slice of the globe. It is you, my cowardly friends, who are being hoodwinked by those you consider allies. Et tu, Brutus? I must agree that the farmers are not fools. They were not fools when they applauded our plans at Tenda Ba, and they were not fools to accept FACS as our buying agent for groundnuts. They are further confirmed as not being fools because they are clever enough to perceive that we, as Hilo Trading, are fully committed to them. What we have said we will do, we have done. And, they are certainly not fools because they are receiving immediate payment at secco level for their peanuts this season. Already we have disbursed D 10 million to farmers. No, my afraid friends, the farmers are not fools and neither will they be hoodwinked like they have been these past few years – and none of those the fault of the Government. They are not fools because they will never listen to the likes of you. Your statements about them are not in the best interests of the farmers, for should they listen to you, they would surely suffer, and badly so. As to the EU and Alimenta not being fools – I could not possibly comment. Once again you commit libel by stating that Hilo Trading is a dummy company. Hilo Trading Inc USA is a US$ 23 million a year merchant company, formed in 1993. Our Gambian operation was incorporated in March 2000 with the express purpose of operating fully from this season onward. I am not only a British National, but an American citizen too. Thus I have both countries resources and protection. Be warned - I know ST JOHNS.EDU….and I will use my resources to track you down and expose you to The People Of The Gambia as the troublemakers you are. Those of your ‘colleagues’ in Atlanta need not bother to check out the ‘funny’ company of “Hailo” for they shall surely not find it. Perhaps this e-mail will assist you in your uneducated approaches to the dissident factor; for, surely, you will now at least have the correct spelling of our ‘funny’ company. Your spelling overall, by the way is thoroughly appalling. Your fellow true-countrymen, those that don’t operate in dark and dank and secret places, will not find HILO being so funny, but, rather quite serious. This will be the case when we assist the country, through its farmers, back to an economic sanity within the Groundnut Sub-Sector by paying farmers for peanuts delivered on time – with NO CREDIT BUYING. I do not object to being called a ‘Software Engineer’, for that is a privileged and quite honourable position. Why are you so derogatory about software engineers? It seems you have little good to say about anyone or anything. I also wonder how I became a software engineer having spent my past 30 years in the groundnut business. I must sleep less than I think, or study in my REM sleep. The nonsense that you write is clearly indicative that perhaps you are still at pre-school, kindergarten perhaps? Surely, a grown adult with any degree of education would shy away from writing such adolescent rubbish? And yet, e-mailing illegally from StJohns.Edu would indicate otherwise, which I find enormously interesting as I begin to track down who you are. Hilo Trading Gambia has invested almost US$ 3 million this year in The Gambia. Do you still consider us to be a ‘funny’ company? What has anyone else invested? What have you and your band of troublemakers invested or contributed for your country? I’ll wager absolutely nothing, of course. If not for Hilo and this Government, this season would have been a non-starter as well. The Government is strapped because of being hoodwinked by last season’s operators who still owe millions and millions and millions of Dalasis to them and others. The good deed, last season, of the Govt coming to the rescue with funds has been paid back by a web of deceit and cover-ups committed by those to whom money was given. More evidence of your ‘friends of The Gambia’. No doubt you exist so as to communicate with them all of your twisted thoughts. Perhaps they hide in the same slime as you people; no doubt you are happy bedfellows. We have invested. We have contributed. We are producing. We are helping. We therefore have a right to priority usage of Denton Bridge for we are the only ones serious enough to complete the task at hand. What rights do you have? Your writings are the ranting of jealous Gambians who have contributed nothing, but want everything; of political dissidents scrambling for power that they cannot possible obtain by fair means, but only by foul; of ignoramuses, unwilling or incapable of understanding even the most simplistic truths; of those that prefer chaos to security, of bad times rather than good times. You seek to wreck, not to build. You wish to destroy society, not make it any better. You are the true menace to The People of The Gambia. You are frauds and charlatans because you profess to speak the truth but in fact you speak not only lies but utter and absolute drivel. The dog barking in the street, the cat meowing at night, or the bray of cattle at dawn all contain more truth than you could ever hope to muster by writing 10,000 e-mails. As I, personally, neither Hilo Trading Gambia Ltd, have ever ‘stolen’ from The Gambian population, your accusations, of being ‘shameless crooks’ by deduction, must surely therefore be libellous to the EU and Alimenta. I suspect they will be none too happy with you in this regard. We will not be stopped in our attempt to rectify the appalling problems created these past few years, through no fault of Government. There IS a trade season in progress, with farmers receiving money, and money only from Hilo Trading. We shall commence shelling within a matter of days and exports a few days thereafter. This Government is more than competent; however it is not Government’s role to run private businesses. I remind you, again, for the dim-witted need reminding often – without the Govt intervening with funds this past trade season it would have been an even greater disaster. The insistence, of some, that buying operations be free, open and competitive is admirable. Theory is such a wonderful thing. Communism was once thought admirable. Your mumbo-jumbo is theory because you would never have the sense to put in place what you preach because you could not operate power in an effective democracy. But, in reality, yours, and it, is the diatribe of the economically insane. A business needs to be managed properly and not in a socialistic ‘Alice In Wonderland’. Imagine Coca-Cola allowing others access to its trade patents, its productions and its marketing channels and so forth. Look what happened last season – 3 non-professional, not so ‘funny’ companies combined into one gigantic imbroglio and landed the country in to a depressingly stupid and hopeless situation. They could not have done a worse job if they had tried, and, yet, these are the very people you support as you attempt to destabilize a freely elected Government and the very people of The Gambia and its many venerable institutions. As far as funds being released by donors to Alimenta – more verbal diarrhoea indeed. An agreement has been reached and that is the end of that. As to the start of the Trade Season, your reasoning is once again far from sound. Your reasoning shows a fundamental disregard for the search of truth and is bereft of logic. The simple reasons for any ‘delays’ were two-fold: firstly, the farmers informed us, at Tenda Ba, that they were simply not ready to harvest and secondly, Government has sensibly been awaiting the announcement of a Senegalese price. The season has now been announced, as it was no longer possible to await the price from Senegal. Senegal appears so disorganised and most probably will not start purchasing from their farmers until January 2001 at the earliest. Perhaps your spleen is better vented at them, my frightened friends. For The Gambia has a ‘jump-start’ by announcing an early Trade Season, much to the credit of this current administration. Well, in closing, just a further thought. Do you know it is illegal to send private e-mails over a university system server? It is also illegal to send political propaganda in the same manner. We shall contact the University’s website and we shall inform the University of your little games. We shall indeed contact our lawyers in the USA for legal action. Perhaps the INS might also be interested in your paperwork? I do so hope you are legal aliens? Perhaps you may find life a little unpleasant from now on and you may not be able to continue to use the same methods to send your spiteful, hateful and unequivocally incompetent and untruthful mails. Yours very truly, Alan D Collins President, Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Do you wanna give me my D4.25 or you wanna go for SUTURA? Good day. Harona. >From: [log in to unmask] >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: My Ramadan Message >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:29:30 EST > >Saikss: > >The truth hurts and although certain Drammehs may try to shout and yell, I >CAN attest to the fact that they stay up all night eating, so that they >would >not get hungry during the day. I know another Drammeh, who said she is >going >to the doctor today because she THINKS her ulcers are bothering her and she >cannot observe Ramadan. I can go on and on, but like they say, Sutara is >good and you figure out the rest of that! > >To the new subscribers of Gambia-L, I host an Islamic discussion group >called > [log in to unmask] If anyone is interested in sharing/gaining >knowledge about Islam, please e-mail me a subscription request at >[log in to unmask] > >May Allah accept our Duahs during the holy month of Ramadan. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:36:41 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: A Second e-mail from HILO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gambia-L: The unedited e-mail below is from HILO Gambia. It is sent to St John's University in the UN, and copied to me. It is signed one by Alan Collins, the company's "president". Enjoy reading it! Ebrima Ceesay Birmingham, UK __________________________________________________________________ Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd November 29, 2000 Ms Julia Upton Provost St Johns University New York USA Via fax: 00 1 718 990 1894 Dear Ms Upton, “GAMBIA-L” – MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU I did telephone you earlier today to discuss this matter but I had to be content with leaving a voicemail message. I am an American citizen (and, I might add a practising Catholic) currently living in The Gambia. I am the President of Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd, itself an offshoot of our USA operations, based in Atlanta. We are very much involved with the Groundnut business here within The Gambia and we have currently invested several US$ millions into the sub-sector. We have become aware of a group of Gambian dissidents operating out of the United Kingdom, fronted by an ‘Ebrima Ceesay’ from Birmingham, England. These dissidents are clearly utilising the website/server of St Johns University as evidenced by the attached e-mails. These ‘hate-mails’ are beginning to become, for us, quite tiresome. In addition, they have become increasingly threatening and increasingly paranoid. I am immensely concerned that all of the good work we are doing within The Gambia is being jeopardised by this roving ‘rag-bag’ of political activists. I am very worried that not only are our investments placed at risk but the ominous threat of Atlanta-based fanatics to ‘check’ us out is quite scary. I am well aware that recent developments within the USA have prompted Companies to ban personal e-mail use over their systems. Indeed, it has become an illegal offence and Companies may prosecute. November 29, 2000 – Page (2) – contd., Ms J Upton – Provost St Johns University NY, USA – contd., How much more dangerous and irresponsible, therefore, for a US educational institute to allow its facilities to be manipulated in the manner described and evidenced herein. I would very much welcome your prompt advice that you have looked into this matter and perhaps brought the culprits to light. I should like to know the steps taken, perhaps the first of which is to pinpoint those ‘students’ from The Gambia presently attending any of the University’s campuses. I can assure you that I have brought this matter to the attention of the US Ambassador to The Gambia – George Haley – as well as to the attention of the highest authorities within the Government of The Gambia. I hope to have information from you by return detailing the steps you have taken to close this ‘unit’ of dissidents within St John’s. Yours very sincerely, Alan D Collins President Cc Information Technology – fax # 718 990 2002 _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Ebrima Ceesay ____________________________________________________________________ >From: Alan D Collins <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: The Gambia >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:00:02 +0000 > >Dear Mr Ceesay, > >I am beginning to become increasingly annoyed at your ranting and >raving. The lunatic asylum is perhaps a better forum than the Internet. > >Cease and desist. Immediately. Failing, I shall take every means at my >disposal to find out just who you and your merry bunch of political >activists are and I shall pursue legal channels relentlessly. > >Yours, not so sincerely, > >Alan D Collins >President, Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:33:22 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: quarsan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO BOSS REACTS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bingo! the peanut company: http://www.peanutsusa.com/ quarsan www.quarsan.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:40:26 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ebrima: This joke of a character called Alan Collins, or whatever the hell his name is, has not heard the last from us. He is of the assumption that he knows more about our own country than we do. This is absolutely ludicrous. I believe that his rabid reaction to your last posting, especially sending a letter to St. John's university, is the action of a person that does not want his company's cover to be blown. He knows full well that if the allegations that his company is a front for illegal business dealings by The Gambia government (which is probably true), his company and himself will not have to only answer to the IRS but also to the law. Since he wants to spout threats and accuse us of being radical dissidents, I suggest that we take this to the other level. The responsible parties in the US government will take care of this joker and his company. Cheers! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:40:14 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: quarsan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: atlanta adresses MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hope this is useful AFRIKA PRODUKTE (UK) LTD. 12-14 Moor Lane, Crosby Liverpool L23 2UE, United Kingdom (44-151-931-3221) FAX: 44-151-931-5491 Telex: 629869 AFRIKA G e-mail: [log in to unmask] Keith Roberts, Director Jimmy Lucas, Director ALIMENTA (USA), INC. 100 North Point Center East Suite 450, Alpharetta, GA 30202 (770-752-8345) FAX: 770-752-8355 Mourad Bebawi, President Charles Goodloe, Treasurer Jim Lemley, Trader Vicky Rahn / Wayne Sharp, Traffic ATLANTIC COMMODITIES, INC. P. O. Box 997, 21230 S. Bayside Drive Cheriton, VA 23316 (757-331-4375) FAX: 757-331-3913 Bowdoin W. Lusk, Vice President C.B.S. INTERNATIONAL, INC. P.O. Box 705, 311 S. Broad Street, Edenton, NC 27932-0705 FAX: 919-482-7331 (919-482-7766 or 800-334-8423) Roland H. Vaughan, President Brenda S. Spruill, Customer Services CJC COMMODITIES, INC. P.O. Box 76584, Atlanta, GA 30358-1584 6065 Roswell Rd., Suite 700, Atlanta, GA 30328 (404-252-9230) FAX: 404-256-4097 e-mail: [log in to unmask] Curt Johnston, President Vanessa Deaton, Accounting JACK COCKEY BROKERAGE COMPANY, INC. P.O. Box 1075, 606 West Washington Street, Suffolk, VA 23439-1075 (757-539-0131) (757-539-4505) FAX: 757-539-4073 Jack Cockey, President John S. Cockey, Jr., Vice President KEN FAULKNER COMPANY OF ATLANTA, INC. (Dealers of Peanut Meal) P.O. Box 29245, Atlanta, GA 30359 (800-241-5121) FAX: 404-636-8654 Scott Bracewell, President Rick Adle, Vice President HOFLER BROKERAGE, INC. P.O. Box 1603, Suffolk, VA 23439-1603 (757-539-0291) FAX: 757-539-3291 Tom F. Hofler, President Debby Serena, Administrative Assistant CHARLES R. HOOD BROKERAGE COMPANY, INC. P.O. Box 13948, Tallahassee, FL 32317 (904-668-4996 or 800-533-1666) FAX: 904-668-3608 Charles R. Hood, President Teresa Hanna, Office Administrator INTERNATIONAL SERVICE GROUP 3000 Langford Road, Suite 700, Norcross, GA 30071 (770-447-8777) FAX: 770-246-9885 Robert Kopec, President John Kopec, Vice President e-mail: [log in to unmask] J&B MARKETING, INC. P.O. Box 866, Ashburn, GA 31714 (912-567-4333) FAX: 912-567-9223 Robert L. Hunnicutt, President J.R. JAMES BROKERAGE COMPANY, INC. P.O. Box 1801, Albany, GA 31702-1801 (912-888-7395) FAX: 912-888-3738 James L. Moore Robert S. Johnson LOVATT & RUSHING, INC. 6075 The Corners Parkway, Suite 110 Norcross, GA 30092-2502 (404-446-1113) FAX: 404-446-7056> Thomas W. Rushing George I. Lovatt Patricia Breazeale, Traffic Manager MAN-PRODUCTEN ROTTERDAM BV P.O. Box 253, 3000AG Rotterdam The Netherlands, (31-10-2801380) FAX: 31-10-4147620 TELEX: 21114 Hans de Klerk, Divisional Director Ad Van Helvert, Manager Bert Noorland, Director Herman Driesens, Trader MAZUR AND HOCKMAN, INC. P.O. Box 991, 1501 Third Avenue, Albany, GA 31702 (912-883-3456) (800-991-NUTS/ 6887) FAX: 912-883-3525 [log in to unmask] Larry Hockman Lynne Glover O'CONNOR & COMPANY, INC. P.O. Box 1679, Suffolk, VA 23439-1679 (757-539-0296) FAX: 757-539-9074 Thomas J. O'Connor, III, President Russell R. Smith, Vice President Kimberly A. Eby, Office Manager Sophie Savidge, Traffic Coordinator T. REID BROKERAGE INC. 153 Rose Park Drive, Toronto, Ontario M4T 1R6 (416-481-3394) FAX: 416-481-3805 Tim Reid, President THE ARTHUR RUDE COMPANY, INC. 601 California, Suite 605, San Francisco, CA 94108 (415-986-4511) FAX: 415-392-7365 Arthur Rude, Jr., President Dicksie McDaniel, Administrative Assistant SGL INTERNATIONAL LLC P.O. Box 720124, Atlanta, GA 30358-2124 (404-252-6887) FAX: 404-256-4097 Sidney G. Levy, President Alan D. Collins, Vice President Curt Johnston, Traffic/Logistics Vanessa Deaton, Financial Manager SMITH BROKERAGE COMPANY, INC. P.O. Box 910, Suffolk, VA 23434 (757-539-4900) FAX: 757-539-4410 Edward D. Smith, President SOUTHCO COMMODITIES, INC. 6175 Barfield Road, Suite 240, Atlanta,GA 30328 (404-851-1397) FAX: 404-851-1360 Telex: 54-3637 e-mail: [log in to unmask] Wayne Lord, President Sarita Samad, Traffic Manager Rosa B. Lord, Secretary-Treasurer VEGCO, INC. 6280 Hwy. 53 East, Suite 207-B, Dawsonville, GA 30534 (706-216-6887) FAX: 706-216-4637 Telex: 804813 Ben Powell, Broker WALLER WHITTEMORE & COMPANY 1060 Laskin Road, Suite 22B Virginia Beach, VA 23451 (757-491-1114) FAX: 757-491-8963 H. Waller Whittemore John S. Dixon R.B. WOLFF & COMPANY, INC. 3 Cotesworth Place, Savannah, GA 31411 (912-598-0022) FAX: 912-598-0037 e-mail: ru [log in to unmask] Ron Wolff, Broker Liz Wolff, Secretary quarsan www.quarsan.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:20:51 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: baboucarr Sey <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That I can confirm and add more light to it. Jally nyama Suso a well know kora player from bakau wasulung kunda. Was the one __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:45:37 -0600 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Mr Makaveli <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO Coach, Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. This guy doesn't know you yet he is venting accusations upon accustions towards you. What I sense here, is lots of paranoia, a very demented president, so full of vengence for anyone who dare question his company's integrity. It's over-whelmingly obvious that he feels threatened. But if he is not crooked, why make a big fuss about an alleged accusation. His volcanic temper and cheap slugfest approach is very compelling for a guy who supposedly runs a peanut company. This one is definitely a whistle-blower as far as he is concerned, and he is ready to do everything in his power to cover up his undisclosed interests. He thinks he has the unlimited check book and is willing to contest in the courts. here is a guy who enjoyed freedom of speach from his 'countries' of origin, so why deprieve that priviledge from Mr Ceesay. Give us a break. Gambians know better. These crooks are not in this for the farmers, they in it for their own pocket books and willing to do everything to protect their investments. He is already doing just that as we speak. I encourage anyone with the power to look into this company to be relenetless, because I smell a BIG FAT RAT here!Keep up the good work Ebrima.You sure stepped on his last nerve..(o-:) Mr Makaveli . From: Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO To: [log in to unmask] Date: Nov 29, 2000 Ebrima: This joke of a character called Alan Collins, or whatever the hell his name is, has not heard the last from us. He is of the assumption that he knows more about our own country than we do. This is absolutely ludicrous. I believe that his rabid reaction to your last posting, especially sending a letter to St. John's university, is the action of a person that does not want his company's cover to be blown. He knows full well that if the allegations that his company is a front for illegal business dealings by The Gambia government (which is probably true), his company and himself will not have to only answer to the IRS but also to the law. Since he wants to spout threats and accuse us of being radical dissidents, I suggest that we take this to the other level. The responsible parties in the US government will take care of this joker and his company. Cheers! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 17:05:24 -0600 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Mr Makaveli <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Corrections: Always writing in a hurry! To: [log in to unmask] Date: Nov 29, 2000 Coach, Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. This guy doesn't know you yet he is venting accusations upon accustions towards you. What I sense here, is lots of paranoia, a very demented president, so full of vengence for anyone who dare question his company's integrity. It's over-whelmingly obvious that he feels threatened. But if he is not crooked, why make a big fuss about an alleged accusation. His volcanic temper and cheap slugfest approach is very compelling for a guy who supposedly runs a peanut company. This one is definitely a whistle-blower as far as he is concerned, and he is ready to do everything in his power to cover up his undisclosed interests. He thinks he has the unlimited check book and is willing to contest in the courts. Here is a guy who enjoyed freedom of speech from his 'countries' of origin, so why deprieve that priviledge from Mr Ceesay. Give us a break. Gambians know better. These crooks are not in this for the farmers, they in it for their own pocket books and willing to do everything to protect their investments. He is already doing just that as we speak. I encourage anyone with the power to look into this company to be relentless, because I smell a BIG FAT RAT here!Keep up the good work Ebrima.You sure stepped on his last nerve..(o-:) Mr Makaveli ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:08:39 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Saikou Samateh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mr Darboe, I saw this one today anyway tell Saikou that the MANKANASO is not a daily life in Badibu,even though this one might be true it was a time of hunger.But the other fact could not also be disputed,the Sarahulehs,the Kiangas are just terrible,there would not have never been enough Mankanaso in Badibu if we had allow them to stay. For Freedom Saiks ----- Original Message ----- From: Momodou-Alieu Darboe <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 2:45 PM Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message > In fact Saikou ,it should be the other way around .As for we the "KIANGOS" , > fasting is nothing for us except changing our meal time table . > The real people afraid of Fasting are as follows :Kamaras, Fattys,Mannehs > ,Singhatehs ,Kassama-Jabbis,and foremost the Jammehs. > Saikou Samateh ,there is a Sarahule in Stockholm called Saikou Touray > selling "MANKANASO"I guest you would like some . > > DARBOE > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Saikou Samateh <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 3:21 PM > Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message > > > Bass, > I did not have time to say much to you,but just to inform you that in Badibu > ,the only people who could not be found there are the Sarahulehs and the > reason is that when they came they were informed among other things,that in > Badibu we observe the fasting period twice in the year ,they then did not > even ask to stay,they move on and settled in Kiang in the company of the > Camaras,this is true story Bass,so take a break,the fasting period is no big > talk in Badibu,it is just a routine exercise. > Have a nice time and say hallo to my sister. > > For Freedom > Saiks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bassirou Dodou Drammeh > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 4:11 PM > Subject: Re: My Ramadan Message > > > Prince, > > The group of potential WATER STEALERS during Ramadan is much > ,much larger than the one alluded below.Please,add to your list the > Badibunkers and the Ceasay Kundangkers!! > > Can you believe that a Badibunker old Pa once asked whether he could do > his Fasting during the nights of Ramadan so that by the time he woke up > every morning it would be breakfast as usual ?!!! > > If that were the case Ebrima Ceasay and his clansmen and women would have > nothing to worry about,would they? > > > > Regards, Basss > > **************************************************************** > > > > >From: Prince Obrien-Coker > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: My Ramadan Message > >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:33:21 +0100 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from [149.68.45.24] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > MHotMailBBE8466200124004315795442D1808CC4; Fri Nov 24 15:36:42 2000 > >Received: from maelstrom.stjohns.edu (149.68.45.24) by > maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id > <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:36:15 -0500 > >Received: from MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU by MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU > (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 377858 for > [log in to unmask]; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:36:09 -0500 > >Received: from smtp1.a2000.nl (62.108.1.203) by maelstrom.stjohns.edu > (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.1a) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; > Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:35:51 -0500 > >Received: from node13c56.a2000.nl ([24.132.60.86] helo=tommy1) by > smtp1.a2000.nl with smtp (Exim 2.02 #4) id 13zSNU-0004Yz-00 for > [log in to unmask]; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:35:37 +0100 > >From [log in to unmask] Fri Nov 24 15:37:51 2000 > >X-Priority: 3 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 > >Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> > >Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > > > > TO ALL MUSLIMS ON GAMBIA-L > > > >The Ramadan is at hand and I have no doubt that most of my Muslim > patriots will > >fully participate and I wish you all the strength and stamina to go > through it. > >However, I am wondering whether certain people will even start it, since > eating > >is their favourite pastime. I am talking about people like Sidi Sanneh, > Oussou > >Njie (Señor), Ebou Khan (E.K.) and Omar Jallow (O.J.). I would like to > inform > >these people that being away from home does not, in any way, exempt them > from > >fasting . So please do what is expected of you. > >To the rest of my Muslim brothers and Sisters, I once more wish you the > >endurance to see the month of Ramadan through. > > > >Prince > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >You may also send subscription requests to > [log in to unmask] > >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write > your full name and e-mail address. > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > Get more from the Web. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/26/00 9:02:42 AM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > There might be tactical flaws with the way I sequence > events or much more dangers inherent than I discuss but I firmly believe > that > Karamba, You are right. History will attest to the fact that in Poland, and what was once the USSR, in Selma,Ala.,and Johannesburg and most recently Yugoslavia and in our neck of woods ivory coast, the catalyst for change has been the common act of someone saying "NO MORE!" The longer I live, the more I firmly believe that an oppressed people's rallying cry to revolution is not "FREEDOM !" but "Enough Already!" When people gather under that banner, anything is possible. Regards, ousman. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:51:10 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ousman Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/29/00 12:27:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > We shall indeed contact our lawyers in the USA for > legal action. Perhaps the INS might also be interested in your paperwork? I > do so hope you are legal aliens? > > The statement above by the president of HILO is an intimidating tactic that people like him will try to use as a weapon in trying to silence a group of people interested in the welfare of their country. Who is this guy trying to silence with that INS story? This goes to show that he and people like him think that Gambians living in the states are a bunch of illegal aliens who will run for cover as soon as he post this nonsense that I believe to be both insulting and derogatory to the many law abiding, tax paying residents of the US, expressing their concerns about the course of events in our motherland on this forum. If the said company (HILO) is genuine as the president want us to believe, why is he making a big fuss about a bunch of concerned Gambians expressing reservation about the intent and viability of his operations in the Gambia. Threatening us with bogus INS investigations will not help Mr. HILO!! Most people on this list like yourself are not even answerable to the INS. They are American citizens of Gambian decent, who are concerned about the treatment of poor farmers at the hands of a deceitful and murderous regime back home. Threats are the tools of the coward. The HILO guy's rambling and threats are nothing but just that. Nobody on this list is hiding. Go ahead and do your investigations, but don't threaten us ever. Regards, ousman. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:08:06 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: We are talking about EU or Alimenta, Mr. Managing Director Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gambia-L: The unedited e-mail below came from one of my sources in the heart of the Gambian Government. Kebba Dampha: Thanks for the good job you did on HILO. You are an asset! Yus and George Sarr: Thanks for the postings. Good and thoughtful they were! In fact, I have decided to ignore this Alan Collins because I have other important things to do. Ebrima Ceesay ______________________________________________________________________ >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: We are talking about EU or Alimenta, Mr. Managing Director >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 > >Ebrima, > >The more I read the messages from Mr. Alan Collins, the more I believe that >we are not dealing with a serious company. > >How can the Managing Director of HILO Company (Gambia) Ltd. logically >extend the issue at hand to include the EU and Alimenta. We are talking >about your company, Mr. Managing Director and not the EU and/or Alimenta. >The latter is not in the same class with your "funny" company and the >former is certainly not in the business of trading in commodities, at least >as far as I am aware.Every Gambian interested in the groundnut sub-sector >knows that Alimenta is one of the biggest players in the groundnut >business. So please do not mention Alimenta in the same breath with HILO. >Anyway, more will be revealed of HILO as you have seen information has >already stated coming in. Brother, you have'nt seen nothing yet. > >You indicated that you have thus far paid out D10 million to farmers and >that you have already invested $3 million. Well, for your information, at >this time of the year, three years ago, Alimenta pumped into the system $20 >million. No wonder with your "investment" of $3 million so far, the dalasi >continue to depreciate by the minute. Why bring in your money in drips and >drabs? > >No one is opposed to private operators entering the sector but it must be >done in a transparent manner. That is all we are asking for. Is that too >much to ask of you? > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Ebrima Ceesay ___________________________________________________________________ >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Ebrima, you've touched a raw nerve >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 > >Ebrima, > >Who is ranting and raving now? You or the Managing Director of HILO Company >(Gambia)Ltd. Keep the pressure on. KB, Laye Bamba and all the crew in the >US should expose these people for what they really are. Gambian farmers >are sick and tired of being hoodwinked by these fly-by-night operators: >real cowboys. > >Gambians are not opposed to free, fair and open trade. However, they would >like to see a transparent and accountable system put in place. The Gambian >people have never been opposed to private enterprise. In fact, they are >more commited to it than the Jammeh regime which has been dragging its feet >for three years over privatisation. Ask the World Bank and the IMF about >that. While you parade the charade in Banjul in cyberspace, we will >continue to expose the Jammeh regime for what it really is : cleptocratic >bureucratic mess of a deal the Gambian people never sort nor deserve. > >Finally, I am really disappointed in the manner the Managing Director of >HILO is handling himself. This is not how von Pierer (Siemens), Jack Welch >(GE) or Jurgen Schrempp (Daimler-Chrysler) would react to questions dealing >with fundamental corporate governance. > >Have a good day and CHEERS!!!! > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:57:01 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: momodou olly-mboge <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi Ebrima, Keep it up. History shall bear withness to the truth. Your relentless struggle for a better Gambia shall be rewarded. Freedom shall be ours. THE REAL CHARLATAN IS MR COLLINS. The ranting and raving of this so-called Alan D. Collins is nothing but puffing of hot air. He is trying to placate our minds by blowing his own trumpet. The guy and his friends are exposed and now they are resorting to intimidation with legal action. But Mr Collins should not underestimate the dedication of the new generation of Gambians who wants a better future for their country. His accusation of the opposition of wanting to remove a democratically elected government shows a lack of knowledge of the Gambian situation or a deliberate attempt to trivialize it. He should be reminded that both Britain and the USA of which he claims citizenship see Yahya and the APRC as rogues and murderers. No wonder the Clinton administration stopped all direct aid to the Gambia since this moron with an eliorated mind came to power. Can MR Collins tell us what is democratic about an uncouth moron who usurp power with the gun? Maybe Collins democratic standards are from another world. Collins should also tell us what is good about a government who had ordered the killings of school children, abduction of its citizens and burning down independent radio stations, the denial of meetings of its opposition, amending of parts of the constitution which are 'inimical' to the interest of the APRC etc. Collins and his kind are the type of foreign investors we do not need in Africa. His type helped people like Mobutu to ruin the continent. WE WILL NEVER AGAIN ACCEPT SUCH KIND OF PEOPLE IN OUR MIDST. WE SHALL CHASE THEM OUT. Mr Collins do not know what he is talking about. Just because Gambians ask some questions about his 'business' warrants him to label us communist. This is really a laughable assumption. And Finally MR Collins should be reminded that English is not our language, as long as we are understood, we care less. Gambia deserves better. Let him take whatever legal action he dsires, we shall defend ourselves vigorously. I for one resides in London, UK and he can do whatever he wants about it. Ebrima, you and your sources are doing a marvelous job. Keep it up. Regards, Mboge >From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:25:28 -0000 > >Gambia-L: > >The unedited e-mail below came from the managing director of HILO in the >Gambia, Alan D Collins. He is reacting to my source's e-mail about his >bogus >company. The attachment came with a short covering letter in which he was >threatening me. I will be sending the covering letter separately later on. > >Alan Collins: I think you are a real joker! Do you think you can threaten >me? Well, you better do your home work about who Ebrima Ceesay is? Anyway, >if time permits me, I'll give you a fitting response. > >Ebrima Ceesay >Birmingham, UK > >________________________________________________________________________ > > > > >Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd > >TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN > >November 27, 2000 > >I am in receipt of an e-mail sent from Gambia-L dated November 23rd 2000. > >Clearly, you hide behind a veil of anonymity. We do not. Cowards afraid of >the truth hide in fear of being found out. Those of us who are trying to do >things correctly are unafraid and can issue a statement from a known >location, as we are now doing. > >Whoever wrote the e-mail is evidently completely unaware of the true state >of affairs. In addition, the e-mail is not only scurrilous but, more >seriously, libellous. > >The Gambian Government is not hoodwinking anyone. The recent ‘agreement’ >reached between the parties represents a significant profit for Alimenta, >far, far more than they ever achieved during their operations within The >Gambia. It is you, and your ilk, that are attempting to hoodwink the >People, no-one else. Hoodwinking the EU would be unthinkable, for surely it >could not possibly be done? > >I am unaware of any Company being formed to act as a front for His >Excellency Jammeh, leave aside one that buys Groundnuts. I may certainly >state that Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd has been formed – as an offshoot from >its American company – to buy groundnuts from the farmer of The Gambia. As >The President of this company, I inform you that you commit a libel by >printing a lie. I strongly suggest you cease and desist, and retract the >ill-advised statements made to date. > >When I trace your whereabouts, and be assured I will, I shall take >immediate >legal action. Of course, you do not dare to back your statements by openly >confronting me. Again, you prove your cowardice. > >The “raisons d’etre” of Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd are to ensure that the >farmers are paid on time, to make a profit, as a private company is >entitled >so to do, and to recognize, and accept, the necessity for social, economic >and political responsibility. > >The question of a monopoly: (I assume you meant ‘monopoly’ instead of >‘monolopy’?) It is the EU in reality that is truly trying to monopolise The >Gambia, as it insidiously spreads its tentacles here and over an >increasingly large slice of the globe. > >It is you, my cowardly friends, who are being hoodwinked by those you >consider allies. Et tu, Brutus? > >I must agree that the farmers are not fools. They were not fools when they >applauded our plans at Tenda Ba, and they were not fools to accept FACS as >our buying agent for groundnuts. They are further confirmed as not being >fools because they are clever enough to perceive that we, as Hilo Trading, >are fully committed to them. What we have said we will do, we have done. >And, they are certainly not fools because they are receiving immediate >payment at secco level for their peanuts this season. Already we have >disbursed D 10 million to farmers. > >No, my afraid friends, the farmers are not fools and neither will they be >hoodwinked like they have been these past few years – and none of those the >fault of the Government. They are not fools because they will never listen >to the likes of you. Your statements about them are not in the best >interests of the farmers, for should they listen to you, they would surely >suffer, and badly so. > >As to the EU and Alimenta not being fools – I could not possibly comment. > >Once again you commit libel by stating that Hilo Trading is a dummy >company. > >Hilo Trading Inc USA is a US$ 23 million a year merchant company, formed in >1993. > >Our Gambian operation was incorporated in March 2000 with the express >purpose of operating fully from this season onward. > >I am not only a British National, but an American citizen too. Thus I have >both countries resources and protection. Be warned - I know ST >JOHNS.EDU….and I will use my resources to track you down and expose you to >The People Of The Gambia as the troublemakers you are. > >Those of your ‘colleagues’ in Atlanta need not bother to check out the >‘funny’ company of “Hailo” for they shall surely not find it. Perhaps this >e-mail will assist you in your uneducated approaches to the dissident >factor; for, surely, you will now at least have the correct spelling of our >‘funny’ company. Your spelling overall, by the way is thoroughly appalling. > >Your fellow true-countrymen, those that don’t operate in dark and dank and >secret places, will not find HILO being so funny, but, rather quite >serious. >This will be the case when we assist the country, through its farmers, back >to an economic sanity within the Groundnut Sub-Sector by paying farmers for >peanuts delivered on time – with NO CREDIT BUYING. > >I do not object to being called a ‘Software Engineer’, for that is a >privileged and quite honourable position. Why are you so derogatory about >software engineers? It seems you have little good to say about anyone or >anything. I also wonder how I became a software engineer having spent my >past 30 years in the groundnut business. I must sleep less than I think, or >study in my REM sleep. > >The nonsense that you write is clearly indicative that perhaps you are >still >at pre-school, kindergarten perhaps? Surely, a grown adult with any degree >of education would shy away from writing such adolescent rubbish? And yet, >e-mailing illegally from StJohns.Edu would indicate otherwise, which I find >enormously interesting as I begin to track down who you are. > >Hilo Trading Gambia has invested almost US$ 3 million this year in The >Gambia. Do you still consider us to be a ‘funny’ company? What has anyone >else invested? What have you and your band of troublemakers invested or >contributed for your country? I’ll wager absolutely nothing, of course. If >not for Hilo and this Government, this season would have been a non-starter >as well. The Government is strapped because of being hoodwinked by last >season’s operators who still owe millions and millions and millions of >Dalasis to them and others. The good deed, last season, of the Govt coming >to the rescue with funds has been paid back by a web of deceit and >cover-ups >committed by those to whom money was given. More evidence of your ‘friends >of The Gambia’. No doubt you exist so as to communicate with them all of >your twisted thoughts. Perhaps they hide in the same slime as you people; >no >doubt you are happy bedfellows. > >We have invested. We have contributed. We are producing. We are helping. We >therefore have a right to priority usage of Denton Bridge for we are the >only ones serious enough to complete the task at hand. What rights do you >have? > >Your writings are the ranting of jealous Gambians who have contributed >nothing, but want everything; of political dissidents scrambling for power >that they cannot possible obtain by fair means, but only by foul; of >ignoramuses, unwilling or incapable of understanding even the most >simplistic truths; of those that prefer chaos to security, of bad times >rather than good times. You seek to wreck, not to build. You wish to >destroy >society, not make it any better. You are the true menace to The People of >The Gambia. > >You are frauds and charlatans because you profess to speak the truth but in >fact you speak not only lies but utter and absolute drivel. The dog barking >in the street, the cat meowing at night, or the bray of cattle at dawn all >contain more truth than you could ever hope to muster by writing 10,000 >e-mails. > >As I, personally, neither Hilo Trading Gambia Ltd, have ever ‘stolen’ from >The Gambian population, your accusations, of being ‘shameless crooks’ by >deduction, must surely therefore be libellous to the EU and Alimenta. I >suspect they will be none too happy with you in this regard. > >We will not be stopped in our attempt to rectify the appalling problems >created these past few years, through no fault of Government. There IS a >trade season in progress, with farmers receiving money, and money only from >Hilo Trading. We shall commence shelling within a matter of days and >exports >a few days thereafter. This Government is more than competent; however it >is >not Government’s role to run private businesses. I remind you, again, for >the dim-witted need reminding often – without the Govt intervening with >funds this past trade season it would have been an even greater disaster. > >The insistence, of some, that buying operations be free, open and >competitive is admirable. Theory is such a wonderful thing. Communism was >once thought admirable. Your mumbo-jumbo is theory because you would never >have the sense to put in place what you preach because you could not >operate >power in an effective democracy. But, in reality, yours, and it, is the >diatribe of the economically insane. A business needs to be managed >properly >and not in a socialistic ‘Alice In Wonderland’. Imagine Coca-Cola allowing >others access to its trade patents, its productions and its marketing >channels and so forth. Look what happened last season – 3 non-professional, >not so ‘funny’ companies combined into one gigantic imbroglio and landed >the >country in to a depressingly stupid and hopeless situation. They could not >have done a worse job if they had tried, and, yet, these are the very >people >you support as you attempt to destabilize a freely elected Government and >the very people of The Gambia and its many venerable institutions. > >As far as funds being released by donors to Alimenta – more verbal >diarrhoea >indeed. An agreement has been reached and that is the end of that. > >As to the start of the Trade Season, your reasoning is once again far from >sound. Your reasoning shows a fundamental disregard for the search of truth >and is bereft of logic. The simple reasons for any ‘delays’ were two-fold: >firstly, the farmers informed us, at Tenda Ba, that they were simply not >ready to harvest and secondly, Government has sensibly been awaiting the >announcement of a Senegalese price. > >The season has now been announced, as it was no longer possible to await >the >price from Senegal. Senegal appears so disorganised and most probably will >not start purchasing from their farmers until January 2001 at the earliest. >Perhaps your spleen is better vented at them, my frightened friends. For >The >Gambia has a ‘jump-start’ by announcing an early Trade Season, much to the >credit of this current administration. > >Well, in closing, just a further thought. > >Do you know it is illegal to send private e-mails over a university system >server? It is also illegal to send political propaganda in the same manner. >We shall contact the University’s website and we shall inform the >University >of your little games. We shall indeed contact our lawyers in the USA for >legal action. Perhaps the INS might also be interested in your paperwork? I >do so hope you are legal aliens? > >Perhaps you may find life a little unpleasant from now on and you may not >be >able to continue to use the same methods to send your spiteful, hateful and >unequivocally incompetent and untruthful mails. > >Yours very truly, > >Alan D Collins President, Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 19:29:33 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Bamba Laye Jallow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: <> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ebrima, KB and others, I was going to send more information on this "Hilo" company over the weekend (when I normally have more time for such)but the reaction of the "elpresidente" in Gambia was brought to my attention this evening. I had to give in some time to do a little homework on this "Hilo" suckers. Reading through the pimps reaction to the message from your sources, I can only deduce that he is more like an APRC propaganda frontman than a "president" of an international corporation. I don't need to point out to you that he has proven to all that this "Hilo" has something to hide. Why the fuss about people exposing who and what you are all about if you truly believe that you're involved in normal business endeavors? If Mr. "Elpresidente" is nothing more than an APRC frontman, he should be aware that in America, there is what is known as FREEDOM OF SPEECH - which is guaranteed by the first amendment of the U.S Constitution. If he is willing to spend the time and resources of his corporation in pursuing a futile attempt to curtail the right to freedom of speech in this forum, then my assertion that he is an APRC frontman will be proven. Mr."Elpresidente", whether you know it or not, the most you can get from anyone in this forum is retraction, if it is ever proven that there is any defamation by anyone in this forum. So chill and swallow the bitter pill of dealing with crooks in the midst of a repressive government like the one you seem to be kissing up to! Folks, here's some information I have gathered about these suckers. I must say, Kebba Dampha, I admire you zeal and dedication in making sure the voice of the oppressed is heard. If these people are truly trying to help out hte farmers, they must not hide facts about who the farmers are selling their crops to. These people are becoming more and more disgusting. ====================================================================== 2787 LONG LAKE DR NE Year Started: 1993 ROSWELL, GA 30075 Control Year: 1993 Telephone: 770 753-2980 This is a Single location. Sales $10,062,938 (Fiscal) Employees Total: 1 Net Worth $127,250 (Fiscal) Top Executive: IAIN PRENTICE, PRES ====================================================================== Mr. "Elpresidente" should be aware that if and when it is proven that he is running an illegal clandestine business in the Gambia, we will make sure that your corporate office in Roswell explains itself to the IRS, the SEC and your local Chamber of Commerce. Not even talking about other regulatory bodies for international businesses. You know very well that we can get more information about your company than what is displayed above. It is often said that when you deal with fools too much, you tend to be a fool yourself. Don't let Yaya and his gang of fools get you and your boss into stuff you cannot handle. Abdoulie A. Jallow Toll-free number: 1-888-392-4832(Excite2) Personal extension for v/mail/fax: 291-368-1519 _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? 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Mbo= ge, you stated my sentiments well.  If Mr. Collins believes in the =
legitimacy of his company he can give us more information about it
= rather than just saying we are a subsidiary of so and so company in USA.  Give us some facts so that anyone who wants to find out the =
truth could do so easily. For example, what is the contact
information of the US parent company?

Let me remind Mr. Collins that he is not in The Gambia to help
Gambians but to reap profits to be made from the peanut trade if him and his company are truly dealing in this commodity.

The other issue that I am disappointed in is the threatening nature of Mr. Collins' statements.  What about the BLACKMAILING?  Th= is is
pathetic.  He better know that his blackmailing will not work with=
members of this list.  At least we live in a country were the rule= of
law is upheld by the authorities unlike Yahya Jammeh's government
that he thinks is a great one.

MR. COLLINS, I think most people if not all on this list know what is <= BR> best for Gambia far better than you.  As for what we do for Gambia= ,
you are not qualified to ask that question and you don't deserve an answer to that.

YND


---- Begin Original Message ----

From: momodou olly-mboge <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:57:01 -0500
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source


Hi Ebrima,

Keep it up. =A0History shall bear withness to the truth. =A0Your
relentless
struggle for a better Gambia shall be rewarded. =A0Freedom shall be ours. =A0THE
REAL CHARLATAN IS MR COLLINS.

The ranting and raving of this so-called Alan D. Collins is nothing but
puffing of hot air. =A0He is trying to placate our minds by blowing his=
own
trumpet.

The guy and his friends are exposed and now they are resorting to
intimidation with legal action. =A0But Mr Collins should not
underestimate the
dedication of the new generation of Gambians who wants a better
future for
their country.

His accusation of the opposition of =A0wanting to remove a
democratically
elected government shows a lack of knowledge of the Gambian situation <= BR> or a
deliberate attempt to trivialize it.

He should be reminded that both Britain and the USA of which he claims<= BR> citizenship see Yahya and the APRC as rogues and murderers. =A0No
wonder the
Clinton administration stopped all direct aid to the Gambia since
this moron
with an eliorated mind came to power.

Can MR Collins tell us what is democratic about an uncouth moron who usurp
power with the gun? =A0Maybe Collins democratic standards are from
= another
world.

Collins should also tell us what is good about a government who had ordered
the killings of school children, abduction of its citizens and
burning down
independent radio stations, the denial of meetings of its opposition, amending of parts of the constitution which are 'inimical' to the
interest
of the APRC etc.

Collins and his kind are the type of foreign investors we do not need <= BR> in
Africa. =A0His type helped people like Mobutu to ruin the
continent. =A0WE WILL
NEVER AGAIN ACCEPT SUCH KIND OF PEOPLE IN OUR MIDST. =A0WE SHALL CHASE =
THEM
OUT.

Mr Collins do not know what he is talking about. =A0Just because
Gambians ask
some questions about his 'business' warrants him to label us
communist.
This is really a laughable assumption.

And Finally MR Collins should be reminded that English is not our
language,
as long as we are understood, we care less.

Gambia deserves better. Let him take whatever legal action he dsires, <= BR> we
shall defend ourselves vigorously.

I for one resides in London, UK and he can do whatever he wants about <= BR> it.

Ebrima, you and your sources are doing a marvelous job. =A0Keep it up.<= BR>
Regards,

Mboge









>From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:25:28 -0000
>
>Gambia-L:
>
>The unedited e-mail below came from the managing director of HILO i= n
the
>Gambia, Alan D Collins. He is reacting to my source's e-mail about =
his
>bogus
>company. The attachment came with a short covering letter in which =
he was
>threatening me. I will be sending the covering letter separately later on.
>
>Alan Collins: I think you are a real joker! Do you think you can threaten
>me? Well, you better do your home work about who Ebrima Ceesay is? =
Anyway,
>if time permits me, I'll give you a fitting response.
>
>Ebrima Ceesay
>Birmingham, UK
>
>___________________________________________________________________= __
___
>
>
>
>
>Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd
>
>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
>
>November 27, 2000
>
>I am in receipt of an e-mail sent from Gambia-L dated November 23rd=
2000.
>
>Clearly, you hide behind a veil of anonymity. We do not. Cowards afraid of
>the truth hide in fear of being found out. Those of us who are
= trying to do
>things correctly are unafraid and can issue a statement from a know= n
>location, as we are now doing.
>
>Whoever wrote the e-mail is evidently completely unaware of the tru= e
state
>of affairs. In addition, the e-mail is not only scurrilous but, mor= e
>seriously, libellous.
>
>The Gambian Government is not hoodwinking anyone. The
recent &#8216;agreement&#8217;
>reached between the parties represents a significant profit for Alimenta,
>far, far more than they ever achieved during their operations withi= n
The
>Gambia. =A0It is you, and your ilk, that are attempting to hoodwink= the
>People, no-one else. Hoodwinking the EU would be unthinkable, for <= BR> surely it
>could not possibly be done?
>
>I am unaware of any Company being formed to act as a front for His<= BR> >Excellency Jammeh, leave aside one that buys Groundnuts. I may
= certainly
>state that Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd has been formed &#8211; as= an
offshoot from
>its American company &#8211; to buy groundnuts from the farmer = of The
Gambia. As
>The President of this company, I inform you that you commit a libel=
by
>printing a lie. I strongly suggest you cease and desist, and retrac= t
the
>ill-advised statements made to date.
>
>When I trace your whereabouts, and be assured I will, I shall take<= BR> >immediate
>legal action. Of course, you do not dare to back your statements by=
openly
>confronting me. Again, you prove your cowardice.
>
>The &#8220;raisons d&#8217;etre&#8221; of Hilo Trading = (Gambia) Ltd are to ensure that
the
>farmers are paid on time, to make a profit, as a private company is=
>entitled
>so to do, and to recognize, and accept, the necessity for social, <= BR> economic
>and political responsibility.
>
>The question of a monopoly: =A0(I assume you meant &#8216;monop= oly&#8217; instead
of
>&#8216;monolopy&#8217;?) It is the EU in reality that is tr= uly trying to
monopolise The
>Gambia, as it insidiously spreads its tentacles here and over an >increasingly large slice of the globe.
>
>It is you, my cowardly friends, who are being hoodwinked by those y= ou
>consider allies. Et tu, Brutus?
>
>I must agree that the farmers are not fools. They were not fools when they
>applauded our plans at Tenda Ba, and they were not fools to accept =
FACS as
>our buying agent for groundnuts. They are further confirmed as not =
being
>fools because they are clever enough to perceive that we, as Hilo <= BR> Trading,
>are fully committed to them. What we have said we will do, we have =
done.
>And, they are certainly not fools because they are receiving
immediate
>payment at secco level for their peanuts this season. Already we ha= ve
>disbursed D 10 million to farmers.
>
>No, my afraid friends, the farmers are not fools and neither will <= BR> they be
>hoodwinked like they have been these past few years &#8211; and= none of
those the
>fault of the Government. They are not fools because they will never=
listen
>to the likes of you. Your statements about them are not in the best=
>interests of the farmers, for should they listen to you, they would=
surely
>suffer, and badly so.
>
>As to the EU and Alimenta not being fools &#8211; I could not p= ossibly
comment.
>
>Once again you commit libel by stating that Hilo Trading is a dummy=
>company.
>
>Hilo Trading Inc USA is a US$ 23 million a year merchant company, <= BR> formed in
>1993.
>
>Our Gambian operation was incorporated in March 2000 with the expre= ss
>purpose of operating fully from this season onward.
>
>I am not only a British National, but an American citizen too. Thus=
I have
>both countries resources and protection. Be warned - I know ST
>JOHNS.EDU&#8230;.and I will use my resources to track you down = and expose
you to
>The People Of The Gambia as the troublemakers you are.
>
>Those of your &#8216;colleagues&#8217; in Atlanta need not = bother to check out
the
>&#8216;funny&#8217; company of &#8220;Hailo&#8221; = for they shall surely not find it.
Perhaps this
>e-mail will assist you in your uneducated approaches to the disside= nt
>factor; for, surely, you will now at least have the correct spellin= g
of our
>&#8216;funny&#8217; company. Your spelling overall, by the = way is thoroughly
appalling.
>
>Your fellow true-countrymen, those that don&#8217;t operate in = dark and
dank and
>secret places, will not find HILO being so funny, but, rather quite=
>serious.
>This will be the case when we assist the country, through its
farmers, back
>to an economic sanity within the Groundnut Sub-Sector by paying farmers for
>peanuts delivered on time &#8211; with NO CREDIT BUYING.
>
>I do not object to being called a &#8216;Software Engineer&= #8217;, for that is a
>privileged and quite honourable position. Why are you so derogatory=
about
>software engineers? It seems you have little good to say about
= anyone or
>anything. I also wonder how I became a software engineer having spent my
>past 30 years in the groundnut business. I must sleep less than I <= BR> think, or
>study in my REM sleep.
>
>The nonsense that you write is clearly indicative that perhaps you =
are
>still
>at pre-school, kindergarten perhaps? Surely, a grown adult with any=
degree
>of education would shy away from writing such adolescent rubbish? <= BR> And yet,
>e-mailing illegally from StJohns.Edu would indicate otherwise, whic= h
I find
>enormously interesting as I begin to track down who you are.
>
>Hilo Trading Gambia has invested almost US$ 3 million this year in =
The
>Gambia. Do you still consider us to be a &#8216;funny&#8217= ; company? =A0What has
anyone
>else invested? What have you and your band of troublemakers investe= d
or
>contributed for your country? I&#8217;ll wager absolutely nothi= ng, of
course. If
>not for Hilo and this Government, this season would have been a non= -
starter
>as well. The Government is strapped because of being hoodwinked by =
last
>season&#8217;s operators who still owe millions and millions an= d millions
of
>Dalasis to them and others. The good deed, last season, of the Govt=
coming
>to the rescue with funds has been paid back by a web of deceit and<= BR> >cover-ups
>committed by those to whom money was given. More evidence of
your &#8216;friends
>of The Gambia&#8217;. No doubt you exist so as to communicate w= ith them
all of
>your twisted thoughts. Perhaps they hide in the same slime as you <= BR> people;
>no
>doubt you are happy bedfellows.
>
>We have invested. We have contributed. We are producing. We are helping. We
>therefore have a right to priority usage of Denton Bridge for we ar= e
the
>only ones serious enough to complete the task at hand. What rights =
do you
>have?
>
>Your writings are the ranting of jealous Gambians who have
contributed
>nothing, but want everything; of political dissidents scrambling fo= r
power
>that they cannot possible obtain by fair means, but only by foul; o= f
>ignoramuses, unwilling or incapable of understanding even the most<= BR> >simplistic truths; of those that prefer chaos to security, of bad <= BR> times
>rather than good times. You seek to wreck, not to build. You wish t= o
>destroy
>society, not make it any better. You are the true menace to The People of
>The Gambia.
>
>You are frauds and charlatans because you profess to speak the trut= h
but in
>fact you speak not only lies but utter and absolute drivel. The dog=
barking
>in the street, the cat meowing at night, or the bray of cattle at <= BR> dawn all
>contain more truth than you could ever hope to muster by writing 10,000
>e-mails.
>
>As I, personally, neither Hilo Trading Gambia Ltd, have
ever &#8216;stolen&#8217; from
>The Gambian population, your accusations, of being &#8216;shame= less
crooks&#8217; by
>deduction, must surely therefore be libellous to the EU and
Alimenta. I
>suspect they will be none too happy with you in this regard.
>
>We will not be stopped in our attempt to rectify the appalling
= problems
>created these past few years, through no fault of Government. There=
IS a
>trade season in progress, with farmers receiving money, and money <= BR> only from
>Hilo Trading. We shall commence shelling within a matter of days an= d
>exports
>a few days thereafter. This Government is more than competent;
= however it
>is
>not Government&#8217;s role to run private businesses. I remind= you,
again, for
>the dim-witted need reminding often &#8211; without the Govt in= tervening
with
>funds this past trade season it would have been an even greater disaster.
>
>The insistence, of some, that buying operations be free, open and >competitive is admirable. Theory is such a wonderful thing.
Communism was
>once thought admirable. Your mumbo-jumbo is theory because you woul= d
never
>have the sense to put in place what you preach because you could no= t
>operate
>power in an effective democracy. But, in reality, yours, and it, is=
the
>diatribe of the economically insane. A business needs to be managed=
>properly
>and not in a socialistic &#8216;Alice In Wonderland&#8217;.= Imagine Coca-Cola
allowing
>others access to its trade patents, its productions and its marketi= ng
>channels and so forth. Look what happened last season &#8211; 3= non-
professional,
>not so &#8216;funny&#8217; companies combined into one giga= ntic imbroglio and
landed
>the
>country in to a depressingly stupid and hopeless situation. They could not
>have done a worse job if they had tried, and, yet, these are the ve= ry
>people
>you support as you attempt to destabilize a freely elected
Government and
>the very people of The Gambia and its many venerable institutions.<= BR> >
>As far as funds being released by donors to Alimenta &#8211; mo= re verbal
>diarrhoea
>indeed. An agreement has been reached and that is the end of that.<= BR> >
>As to the start of the Trade Season, your reasoning is once again <= BR> far from
>sound. Your reasoning shows a fundamental disregard for the search =
of truth
>and is bereft of logic. The simple reasons for any &#8216;delay= s&#8217; were two-
fold:
>firstly, the farmers informed us, at Tenda Ba, that they were simpl= y
not
>ready to harvest and secondly, Government has sensibly been awaitin= g
the
>announcement of a Senegalese price.
>
>The season has now been announced, as it was no longer possible to =
await
>the
>price from Senegal. Senegal appears so disorganised and most
probably will
>not start purchasing from their farmers until January 2001 at the <= BR> earliest.
>Perhaps your spleen is better vented at them, my frightened friends= .
For
>The
>Gambia has a &#8216;jump-start&#8217; by announcing an earl= y Trade Season, much
to the
>credit of this current administration.
>
>Well, in closing, just a further thought.
>
>Do you know it is illegal to send private e-mails over a university=
system
>server? It is also illegal to send political propaganda in the same=
manner.
>We shall contact the University&#8217;s website and we shall in= form the
>University
>of your little games. We shall indeed contact our lawyers in the US= A
for
>legal action. Perhaps the INS might also be interested in your
= paperwork? I
>do so hope you are legal aliens?
>
>Perhaps you may find life a little unpleasant from now on and you <= BR> may not
>be
>able to continue to use the same methods to send your spiteful, hateful and
>unequivocally incompetent and untruthful mails.
>
>Yours very truly,
>
>Alan D Collins President, Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd
>
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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I think what Ebrima Ceesay and his source have actually managed to do, is to clip a raw nerve in the "body-corporate" of Hilo Trading, and in the person of Mr.. Collins. It is apparent, that all the dust that Collins is raising is either to obscure the true intentions of his company, or to deter Gambians from continuing the exposure of those intention, with threats of legal actions. I will like to remind you Mr. Collins, that you do not have an exclusive recourse to legal action. If you believe, as your threats suggests, that you do have a cause in law, you should proceed with a suit either here in the UK or in the USA, from where you hail, and see how far we are ready to take this case. What you don't seem to realise, is that whilst you are fighting for the right to make a few million dollars, our fight quite literally is about the destiny of an entire nation. In the real world, this fight is not won or lost in the court rooms of the world it is won in the hearts and minds of the people who have to fight the fight. You have made some patently idle threats about legal actions and insinuated even more direct physical acts against the person of Ebrima Ceesay. These are not only odious behaviour directed towards someone who is exercising a basic right of free expression, but it also speaks volume about the caliber of persons who visit our shores to do business. The USA, where you come from is currently treating the world to the highest and most refined demonstration in democratic exercise, whilst you Mr. Collins, is engage in an exercise in futility, by trying to snuff out one of the fundamental pillars of this great system/culture. Surely you should know by now, that you can't win. You should also remember, that as Gambians, OUR interest in OUR COUNTRY is a GENUINE and WHOLESOME one. On the other hand, your interests in the Gambia are limited purely to financial matters. You are not a Gambian, no matter what high ranking connections you can claim in government. Your children don't have to live there nor do you Mr. Collins, i am sure, contemplate retirement in our country. It is therefore a cheek of the highest order and a demonstration of outright impudence and arrogance to question Ebrima,s very healthy interest in the economic well being of OUR country. Mr. Collins, in defense of your company, you have embarked on a robust but apparently spurious crusade to silence the Gambian people from commenting on the direction and destiny of OUR COUNTRY. Well, you were either not a student of history, or you were a "not so good one", because history would have taught you, the futility of your quest. That task, is an impossibility period. The zeal with which you defend your company and its interests, fades into absolute and total insignificance, when compared with OUR determination to protect our collective national interest and to rescue our national legacy from the scourge of exploitation, be it economic, political, foreign or domestic. If you are entirely certain of the credibility and integrity of HILO, why fuss and whine about assertions that may or may not be true. Why go on the defensive in a way that provides even greater credence to the assertions proffered by Ebrima and his Source. I can only conclude, from your reactions, that there is indeed something to hide. Your less than conciliatory stance in this whole matter has only whetted the appetite of countless more Ebrima Ceesay's, who are prepared, able and willing to follow through with this case. Be assured, that you have not heard the last of this case yet. Finally Mr. Collins, you referred to Ebrima and others, as political activists. I say, what is wrong with that label? If it means standing up and fighting for what is right and proper, Ebrima, myself and countless more Gambians are on their feet dying to be counted. But what does it say about you? Remember, that whilst we do not even pretend to be seen in concert with the legendary Nelson Mandela, he was also labeled a political activist and a communist. It turned out that he is more democratic than even the Greeks who purported to have invented the system. But you see, Mr. Collins we knew that long before. Come to think of it, and i am sure i speak for a large section of the membership of the Gambia-L, we do not need Mr. Collins, his patrons or his partners to validate us. The fight is right. Jeggan Bahoum _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:27:24 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Katim S. Touray" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [Fwd: Fellowships for Senegalese Graduate Students] Comments: To: African Association of Madison <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, I got the following from Sunugalnet. Please check out the Ford Foundation Web site (http://www.fordfound.org) for more info. Katim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fellowships for Senegalese Graduate Students Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:10:41 -0800 From: Karen Fung <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] There is an article in the Nov. 29, 2000 New York Times about new Ford Foundation grants for graduate students (from Senegal, Ghana, Nigeria, other countries) I believe you need to register to read the entire NYT article. But you can get full information on the Ford Foudnation site. http://www.fordfound.org/ The NYT article is under copyright so I can't copy the entire piece but below are some excerpts. $330 Million in Ford Grants Will Aid Foreign Students http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/29/national/29FORD.html November 29, 2000 By TAMAR LEWIN In its largest grant ever, the Ford Foundation will announce today a 10- year $330 million fellowship program to support graduate education for hundreds of disadvantaged college graduates in 20 countries. Ford's International Fellowship Program, which will pay for up to three years of graduate study anywhere in the world, will begin with about 100 students from Chile, Ghana, Nigeria, Peru, Russia, Senegal and Vietnam next year, and then gradually expand to about 350 fellows in 20 countries where the Ford Foundation has a presence............ While academic performance will be a criterion for selection, committees in each country will also base their choices on leadership potential and commitment to community service and social justice. Joan Dassin, director of the program, said, "A lot of the people we want to reach may not have had typical careers and may be older, particularly women who took time off to have a family." ---- Karen Fung, Africa Collection, Hoover Library, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305 Phone 650-725-3505, [log in to unmask] ---- Africa South of the Sahara: Selected Internet Resources http://library.stanford.edu/africa http://www-sul.stanford.edu/depts/ssrg/africa/guide.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:48:38 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Movement for the Restoration of Democracy in Gambia <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mr. Collins or whoever you are, kiss my father's [a hard-toiling and proud Gambian farmer] where the sun don't shine. Fellows, backup a bit and read some of the lingo/wording[s] used in this stupid and threatening letter, doesn't this sound like a PR person, doing damage control for Yahya Jammeh? FYI, most of us here are citizens of the USA, therefore, if your ba... fits your hand, go ahead with your childish threat. Our fight is with the child-killer and oxymoronic, President Robin Hood in reverse/disguise, Yahya Jahanaba. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:52:45 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO company is based in Atlanta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Inshallahi Ta'ala, I had promised myself that I will not get all riled up by this mis-administration during this holy month of Ramadan, to the point that i will make comments on their affairs. However, Allah (SWT) said that he has not ordained fighting for his servants during this holy month, unless if they have been victims of aggression during it.In that case, they have a duty to fight back. Yaya Jammeh and his band of merry men have indeed waged a war on Gambia and all Gambians, and I just could not help myself but comment on it. It seems that every time this mis-managers and robbers of our country's meager resources are caught in another criminal act red-handed, they try to think up something to distract the attention of the people, and unfortunately for them, one can see that thinking is not something that happens very much with these guys. Do they not come up with a fake coup plot each and every time? Even kindergarteners can be more creative I am sure. There is no other reason for the same old coup scare other than the exposure of yet another underhanded effort to rob Gambia and Gambians in the form of this HILO dummy corporation. Dummy corporations are illegal in this country. As for Jammeh's congratulatory message to Bush, isn't it pitiful ? What an obvious gesture at gaining favours! but anything to embellish the coffers is ok with these shameless individuals, even as they spew out anti-American rhetoric, and just look at them kissing up to J.W even before he knows for sure he is going to the Whitehouse. . Also, why should we be surprised that Jammeh does not understand any process that entails following the rule of law to decide a fair outcome in this election? Before one recognizes the process of a fair electoral process, one must believe in it, and practice it. These people have no idea what fairness and the rule of law stands for, except as something to break for one's own gain. Ramadan Mubarak to all my fellow muslims on the list. This is the month that Allah has promised his servants that if they fast for his sake, and stand in prayer for his sake, then he will also answer their prayers. We will fight this regime in every possible way, until they get off the backs of the Gambian people, but let us also stand in firm prayer before Allah to rid us of the evil that has manifested itself in our country in the form of this regime. Please do this each time you break your fast because that is one of the times that Allah is most generous to his servants, and he Dhul Jallali wal ikhram, will answer our prayers inshallah , Ameen Allah. Jabou Joh In a message dated 11/27/00 1:26:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << Following the announcement of this year's groundnut price (D2,600 per >tonne), the farming community has once again seen the untrustworthiness of, >and the liar in Yahya Jammeh. Firstly, he promised them that he will >announce the price of groundnut on the 12 November and that the buying >season will start on the 15th November, 2000. As we all know, Yahya failed >to fulfill his promise on both counts for reasons I stated in my last >posting to you. External resources will not be released to finance this >year's buying season unless and until, Yahya stops his corrupt practices >and his collaboration with unsavory characters to further syphon off funds >meant to alleviate the suffering of our people. Take the case of the HILO >company of Atlanta. This is a company >> Jabou Joh MAAC World Traders Tel:(615) 646-9784 Fax:(507) 262-1590 e-mail:[log in to unmask] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:06:42 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/29/00 3:27:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << Once again you commit libel by stating that Hilo Trading is a dummy company. Hilo Trading Inc USA is a US$ 23 million a year merchant company, formed in 1993. >> ****************************************** Since the "MD" of HILO company says that this is a legally registered company in the United States, Perhaps he can give us the particulars of where the company was registered, company profile, Don & Bradstreet ratings etc. This is information that any legally registered and legitimate company will not hesitate to give out. That would be the best and simplest way to clear his company name if what he is saying is true.It would also be a more befitting approach by any self respecting multi- million dollar company CEO, as opposed to coming out swinging, complete with threats. Tell us the city and State where your company is registered, and the rest should be public knowledge we can get from the business licensing offices and the state's department of revenue. Jabou Joh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:08:48 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Movement for the Restoration of Democracy in Gambia <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fellows, doesn't this sound like Uncle Tomboy Saidy. Isn't this the umpteenth time, he'd made such crybaby threats to Ambassador Haley? Yahya Jahanaba et al. please note that, this time around, Gambian farmers' sweat will not be siphoned off to Swiss Bank Accounts no more. You're moves and dealings are being monitored 24/7. As you were warned before, your worst nightmares, had just begun, so you better start running. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 21:23:50 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ousainou Ngum <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mr. MD, President, Fool or whatever your name is, I want to let you know that you ain't seen nothing yet! Your illegitimate HILO Trading is actually a contrived one. You people are simply despicable! Who are you to think that you can commit such crimes against our farmers without being dealt with? Be advised that your company's operations in The Gambia are being scrutinized and if necessary, you'll be dealt with accordingly, as Yus has rightly suggested. Ebrima, your efforts at exposing such criminal dealings are highly appreciated. Just do your thing and lend a deaf ear to Mr. MD. Furthermore, I want to acknowledge that your sources' efforts have been given due notice. They've made all the difference. Have a wonerful night/morning and remember not to bow down to Mr. MD's sinister tactics. Ous Ngum _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:07:07 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO Comments: cc: [log in to unmask] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Ebrima, keep up the great job that you are doing. Alan D Collins owe you an apology otherwise this matter will go beyond the gambia-L.You being a Gambian journalist have the right to investigate any foreign company that has invested in the country, the terms and conditions of the contract between it and Government and inform Gambians. Mr. Collins behavior is not what is expected of him as a British citizen and a President of Hilo Trading {Gambia}LTD.He is expected to know how more than this and respect the opinions of others.What special interest does he have in this contract more than you the Gambian?.Time will tell. Ebrima,you are not alone in this noble fight and keep us inform. Best regards, Saihou Copy to Alan D Collins >From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: A Second e-mail from HILO >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:36:41 -0000 > >Gambia-L: > >The unedited e-mail below is from HILO Gambia. It is sent to St John's >University in the UN, and copied to me. It is signed one by Alan Collins, >the company's "president". Enjoy reading it! > >Ebrima Ceesay >Birmingham, UK > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > >Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd > >November 29, 2000 > >Ms Julia Upton >Provost >St Johns University >New York >USA > >Via fax: 00 1 718 990 1894 > >Dear Ms Upton, > >“GAMBIA-L” – MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU > >I did telephone you earlier today to discuss this matter but I had to be >content with leaving a voicemail message. > >I am an American citizen (and, I might add a practising Catholic) currently >living in The Gambia. I am the President of Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd, >itself an offshoot of our USA operations, based in Atlanta. > >We are very much involved with the Groundnut business here within The >Gambia >and we have currently invested several US$ millions into the sub-sector. > >We have become aware of a group of Gambian dissidents operating out of the >United Kingdom, fronted by an ‘Ebrima Ceesay’ from Birmingham, England. >These dissidents are clearly utilising the website/server of St Johns >University as evidenced by the attached e-mails. These ‘hate-mails’ are >beginning to become, for us, quite tiresome. In addition, they have become >increasingly threatening and increasingly paranoid. > >I am immensely concerned that all of the good work we are doing within The >Gambia is being jeopardised by this roving ‘rag-bag’ of political >activists. >I am very worried that not only are our investments placed at risk but the >ominous threat of Atlanta-based fanatics to ‘check’ us out is quite scary. > >I am well aware that recent developments within the USA have prompted >Companies to ban personal e-mail use over their systems. Indeed, it has >become an illegal offence and Companies may prosecute. >November 29, 2000 – Page (2) – contd., > >Ms J Upton – Provost >St Johns University >NY, USA – contd., > >How much more dangerous and irresponsible, therefore, for a US educational >institute to allow its facilities to be manipulated in the manner described >and evidenced herein. > >I would very much welcome your prompt advice that you have looked into this >matter and perhaps brought the culprits to light. I should like to know the >steps taken, perhaps the first of which is to pinpoint those ‘students’ >from >The Gambia presently attending any of the University’s campuses. > >I can assure you that I have brought this matter to the attention of the US >Ambassador to The Gambia – George Haley – as well as to the attention of >the >highest authorities within the Government of The Gambia. > >I hope to have information from you by return detailing the steps you have >taken to close this ‘unit’ of dissidents within St John’s. > >Yours very sincerely, > > >Alan D Collins >President > >Cc Information Technology – fax # 718 990 2002 > > > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:35:06 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ylva Hernlund <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Africa: Debt Action (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:55:42 -0500 From: APIC <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Africa: Debt Action Africa: Debt Action Date distributed (ymd): 001129 APIC Document +++++++++++++++++++++Document Profile+++++++++++++++++++++ Region: Continent-Wide Issue Areas: +economy/development+ +US policy focus+ Summary Contents: This posting contains (1) a letter from Salih Booker, as director of APIC, The Africa Fund, and the American Committee on Africa, to the U.S. representative to the International Monetary Fund, supporting Zambia's call for cancellation rather than rescheduling of its debts, and (2) an action alert from the Globalization Challenge Initiative and ISODEC (Ghana), calling for immediate messages to the World Bank in opposition to user fees being imposed in the latest structural adjustment agreement for Tanzania. APIC supports the action call, and asks our supporters to respond with their own messages to the World Bank director representing their country (phone, fax and e-mail contact information for U.S. is below; for other countries visit http://www.challengeglobalization.org/html/ta_menu6.shtml) A posting also being sent out today contains an analysis and position statement against the user fees by the Tanzania Gender Networking Project. +++++++++++++++++end profile++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ November 27, 2000 Tim Geithner Under Secretary of State for International Affairs Department of the Treasury 1500 Pennsylvania Ave., NW, Suite 3432 Washington, DC 20220 Dear Mr Geithner, As the Board of the IMF prepares to meet to decide whether Zambia is eligible for debt relief under the Heavily Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC) Initiative, we write to express our deep concerns about the clear ineffectiveness of this debt relief framework. While the HIPC Initiative was designed to ease the debt burden of heavily indebted poor countries and reduce their debt to "sustainable levels", the case of Zambia only serves to underline the inadequacies of this scheme. Last year, Zambia paid $137 million in debt service to international creditors. Under the HIPC plan, it will actually be required to pay more in annual debt service in the short and medium term than it has to date. Because of IMF loans which come due in 2001, Zambia's yearly payments will rise by over 50%, to more than $200 million next year. Debt relief under the HIPC scheme is therefore not relief at all. Zambia is one of the world's most impoverished countries, with over four-fifths of the population living on less than $1 a day. It is one of the countries most severely affected by the HIV/AIDS pandemic, with one in five adults infected with the disease. Yet debt service expenditure, at 10.3% of GDP, represents the single largest item in Zambia's budget. Over the past eight years, Zambia has followed World Bank and IMF structural adjustment policies, implementing reforms that have actually increased the poverty gap, in order to fulfil the criteria for HIPC debt relief. Even with the full application of this relief, Zambia's debt will not reach 'sustainable levels' until after 2005, according to the IMF's own analysis. Throughout Africa, governments are being forced to sacrifice the health or education of their own populations in order to service massive foreign debt burdens. Neither the original HIPC Initiative, nor its 'enhanced' version, adopted at the 1999 G-7 Summit, has succeeded in easing the debt burden of impoverished countries. The existing debt relief framework has failed to address Africa's debt crisis, and Zambia's plight is a clear illustration of this. Rather than facilitating the reduction of the debt burden, the HIPC Initiative serves the interests of creditors, by squeezing the maximum in debt payments from the world's poorest countries. This seems to be the definition of 'sustainable'. The proposals before the IMF to ease the payment 'spike' which Zambia faces next year will only restructure the debt burden and delay the upcoming increase in debt service. The Zambian government and civil society organizations there are calling for special consideration for Zambia's situation, highlighting the country's track record in meeting debt service obligations, and emphasizing its commitment to using freed up resources to fight the HIV/AIDS crisis. We join them in calling for the cancellation of Zambia's outstanding debts as the only adequate response to the obvious failure of the HIPC approach. We respectfully urge you to support Zambia's appeal in your meetings with the IMF Board, and to work for the cancellation of Zambia's debt. Sincerely, Salih Booker Director Africa Policy Information Center The Africa Fund American Committee on Africa **************************************************************** ACTION ALERT GLOBALIZATION CHALLENGE INITIATIVE The IMF and World Bank are preparing to consider a structural adjustment package for Tanzania. The policy package was designed in consultation with foreign creditors rather than local citizens, despite Bank/IMF claims that their "new" structural adjustment policy will enhance civic participation. The information that follows below lays out the problem in some detail. The summary is that the structural adjustment program is very harsh, and includes user fees for health care and education --something the United States is now obligated to oppose by law. What can you do? The Tanzanian package will be considered at the IMF and Bank later this week. Contact the executive directors (country representatives) to the IMF and Bank and urge them to oppose this brutal policy package. For those in the United States, remind the U.S. executive directors that they are obligated to oppose loans that are conditioned on user fees for health care and education. The U.S Executive Director to the World Bank is Jan Piercy. Contact information: tel: 202-458-0110, fax: 202-477-2967, e-mail: [log in to unmask] The U.S. Executive Director to the IMF is Karin Lissakers, tel: 202-473-7759, e-mail: [log in to unmask] For other countries, check http://www.challengeglobalization.org/html/ta_menu6.shtml Calls and faxes are more effective than e-mails, but e-mails are MUCH better than nothing. Thanks! And don't forget to act right away -- decision making begins Thursday. BACKGROUND STRUCTURAL ADJUSTMENT PROGRAM (SAP) ALERT ON IMF AND WORLD BANK LENDING TO TANZANIA Executive Summary By Globalization Challenge Initiative, A Project of the Tides Center, USA and the Integrated Social Development Programme, (ISODEC), Ghana [for the full 30-plus page text of the "Structural Adjustment Program (SAP) Information Alert for Tanzania" contact: [log in to unmask]] In late November and early December, the Government of Tanzania (GOT) will seek endorsement of its Poverty Reduction Strategy Paper (PRSP) from the Boards of the IMF and World Bank. Preparation of an acceptable PRSP, which is a three-year national development strategy, is a new pre-condition for low-income governments seeking assistance from donors and creditors, especially the IMF and World Bank. Never before have the IMF and World Bank possessed the power to endorse a borrowering country's entire national plan. Ironically, the institutions have seized these powers in the name of enhancing "country ownership" of the development process. The Government of Tanzania (GOT) prepared its PRSP with more input from foreign creditors and donors than from its own citizens. The government is dependent on donors and creditors for the majority of its development budget and, to survive, it must heed its creditors and donors. There are fewer incentives to heed the cries of citizens -- especially the poor and disadvantaged. The PRSP lacks credibility because the process lacked the informed participation of citizens' groups. (See attached statement from Tanzanian organizations. also posted today) Citizen "participation for validation" of the PRSP arises when donors and creditors, especially the IMF and World Bank, negotiate with the GOT in secret and fail to disclose agreements and commitments to the public. This was the case in Tanzania. Key macroeconomic and structural adjustment issues were addressed in secret negotiations, occuring in parallel to the PRSP consultations. These negotiation excluded citizen's groups. Citizens that buy and sell and pay taxes were excluded from key decisions about whether or how the economy of Tanzania will be liberalized, privatized and increasingly oriented to produce exports. Policies, such as those relating to the price of money and goods, taxation options, trade liberalization, and the privatization of key state-owned enterprises were not "on the table" for negotiation during the PRSP consultations. Beyond public view, a handful of government officials negotiated the following arrangements with the IMF and the World Bank during the first half of 2000: 1. IMF and World Bank Action in March 2000, which structured a debt relief operation for the GOT [through the Highly Indebted Poor Country (HIPC) Initiative] and set the terms and conditions of such relief. 2. IMF Action in April 2000, which extended a $181 million structural adjustment loan [through the IMF Poverty Reduction and Growth Facility (PRGF)] to the GOT. To secure the loan, the GOT agreed to execute a multitude of policies. 3. World Bank Action in June 2000, which extended a $290 million structural adjustment loan to the GOT. The World Bank's policy does not require disclosure of information about this loan. 4. Tanzania's macroeconomic and structural policy framework, which provides the basis for the PRSP. Although the PRSP will be disclosed to the public, the policy framework will not be. Secrecy, especially secrecy about the role of powerful foreign creditors, undermines democratic processes and the rights of citizens. The daily lives of citizens are profoundly affected by the economic policies that the GOT is obligated to implement as conditions for securing loans and obtaining debt reduction. Tanzanian citizens have a right to participate in the formulation of public policies through open and democratic analysis, debate, and consensus-building. They have the right to hold their government accountable for its performance, including its commitments to foreign creditors and donors. Ultimately, citizens bear the burden of repaying debts to the IMF and World Bank. Currently, the citizens of Tanzania experience "taxation without representation" because they are denied participation in formulating critical IMF and World Bank-financed operations. Fifteen years of structural adjustment programs (SAPs) have not improved the quality of life for Tanzanian citizens. The IMF and the World Bank have financed structural adjustment policies in Tanzania for about 15 years. Per capita income and basic human welfare indicators have fallen during this time period. For example, per capita GDP has fallen to the 1960 level and primary school enrollment rates plunged below 50 percent from an average of 80 percent during the 1980s. (further details in full Tanzania SAP Alert, box 6.) The excessive number of policy prescriptions, or conditions, attached to the new loans and debt relief amount to micromanagement of the GOT. Tanzania's Policy Matrix, 2000-2002," which was appended to the Interim PRSP by the IMF and World Bank lists approximately 157 policies that the Government of Tanzania will be pressured to implement during this time period. In addition, there are more than 20 policy conditions linked to debt relief, ten policy conditions linked to the World Bank's Country Assistance Strategy (CAS), and additional conditions linked to IMF and World Bank-financed structural adjustment loans. Policy prescriptions will have various impacts on the citizens of Tanzania; some will be negative. Some policy conditions may principally benefit foreign creditors and investors. Others may support or undermine the objectives of sustainable development and poverty reduction in Tanzania. The "SAP Alert" elaborates on problematic policy prescriptions, including those which: * Set fiscal and monetary targets that may continue to undercut public services, reduce internal demand, aggravate unemployment, and handicap efforts to boost investment in infrastructure and human development. * Impose cost-sharing (i.e. new fees for services) in schools, health care centers and hospitals, which will continue to rob vulnerable communities of essential health and education services. The U.S. Government is now bound by law to oppose loans involving cost-sharing provisions. On October 25, 2000, the U.S. Congress passed a bill that requires the United States Executive Directors at the IMF, the World Bank and the regional development banks to oppose any loan that imposes user fees or service charges on poor people for primary education and health care. The legislation was subsequently signed into law. * Further reduce import tariffs. Such tariff reductions often result in a flood of imports that can undermine domestic industrial and agricultural producers. * Require capital account liberalization to attract foreign investment. However, speculative transactions provide profits to foreign investors while offering few, if any, benefits to the poor majority of Tanzania. * Require privatization of public companies, which can increase unemployment, lower wages, increase the cost of goods and services, and decrease access to poor populations. * Require the privatization of agricultural enterprises. Already, privatization has increased the prices of fertilizer and other inputs, and reduced access to credit. While large farmers and private traders have benefited from liberalization and privatization, small farmers, who constitute the majority of Tanzania's population, have not. * Require the GOT to remain current on debt service payments. This is a standard condition of IMF loans. However, nearly a quarter of the government's 2001 budget is devoted to servicing external debt. In fact, even after debt relief, the level of Tanzania's external debt service rises. (Debt servicing requirement in 2001 will be higher than requirements in 1996-2000.) It is important to assess whether such policy conditions will hurt or help Tanzanians, especially poor and marginalized groups and women. However, the main issue relates to how these policy conditions are formulated. Behind closed doors, the IMF and World Bank push these policies on a government which is "on its knees" and desperate for foreign exchange. Negotiations relating to PRSPs and adjustment conditions should never undermine domestic consensus-building processes. How to Convey Your Views to the Executive Directors of the IMF and World Bank Tanzanian citizens are conveying their views of the PRSP and adjustment processes to their government and to their representatives on the Executive Boards of the IMF and World Bank. To convey your views, locate the names, addresses, phone, fax and e-mail contacts of the World Bank and IMF Executive Directors that represent your country at: http://www.challengeglobalization.org. In designing the PRSP process, the Executive Directors committed their institutions to open and transparent processes that would reconcile structural adjustment conditions with poverty reduction goals. Their promises are unfulfilled. Macroeconomic and structural policies cannot be designed in a participatory fashion to serve poverty reduction goals because, for the most part, they are formulated in secret. [For the full text of the Tanzania SAP Alert contact: [log in to unmask]] ************************************************************ This material is produced and distributed by the Africa Policy Information Center (APIC).APIC provides accessible information and analysis in order to promote U.S. and international policies toward Africa that advance economic, political and social justice and the full spectrum of human rights. Documents previously distributed, as well as a wide range of additional information, are also available on the Web at: http://www.africapolicy.org To be added to or dropped from the distribution list write to [log in to unmask] Africa Policy Information Center, 110 Maryland Ave. NE, #509, Washington, DC 20002. Phone: 202-546-7961. Fax: 202-546-1545. E-mail: [log in to unmask] ************************************************************ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:29:01 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: john brown <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed is it possible to have Mr. collins phone number?i really do need this number. >From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: A Second e-mail from HILO >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:36:41 -0000 > >Gambia-L: > >The unedited e-mail below is from HILO Gambia. It is sent to St John's >University in the UN, and copied to me. It is signed one by Alan Collins, >the company's "president". Enjoy reading it! > >Ebrima Ceesay >Birmingham, UK > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > >Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd > >November 29, 2000 > >Ms Julia Upton >Provost >St Johns University >New York >USA > >Via fax: 00 1 718 990 1894 > >Dear Ms Upton, > >“GAMBIA-L” – MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU > >I did telephone you earlier today to discuss this matter but I had to be >content with leaving a voicemail message. > >I am an American citizen (and, I might add a practising Catholic) currently >living in The Gambia. I am the President of Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd, >itself an offshoot of our USA operations, based in Atlanta. > >We are very much involved with the Groundnut business here within The >Gambia >and we have currently invested several US$ millions into the sub-sector. > >We have become aware of a group of Gambian dissidents operating out of the >United Kingdom, fronted by an ‘Ebrima Ceesay’ from Birmingham, England. >These dissidents are clearly utilising the website/server of St Johns >University as evidenced by the attached e-mails. These ‘hate-mails’ are >beginning to become, for us, quite tiresome. In addition, they have become >increasingly threatening and increasingly paranoid. > >I am immensely concerned that all of the good work we are doing within The >Gambia is being jeopardised by this roving ‘rag-bag’ of political >activists. >I am very worried that not only are our investments placed at risk but the >ominous threat of Atlanta-based fanatics to ‘check’ us out is quite scary. > >I am well aware that recent developments within the USA have prompted >Companies to ban personal e-mail use over their systems. Indeed, it has >become an illegal offence and Companies may prosecute. >November 29, 2000 – Page (2) – contd., > >Ms J Upton – Provost >St Johns University >NY, USA – contd., > >How much more dangerous and irresponsible, therefore, for a US educational >institute to allow its facilities to be manipulated in the manner described >and evidenced herein. > >I would very much welcome your prompt advice that you have looked into this >matter and perhaps brought the culprits to light. I should like to know the >steps taken, perhaps the first of which is to pinpoint those ‘students’ >from >The Gambia presently attending any of the University’s campuses. > >I can assure you that I have brought this matter to the attention of the US >Ambassador to The Gambia – George Haley – as well as to the attention of >the >highest authorities within the Government of The Gambia. > >I hope to have information from you by return detailing the steps you have >taken to close this ‘unit’ of dissidents within St John’s. > >Yours very sincerely, > > >Alan D Collins >President > >Cc Information Technology – fax # 718 990 2002 > > > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:59:46 +0100 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Kebba Sanneh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: STEP BACK MR COLLINS. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I believed that people like Mr Collins should understand that if democracy is to prevail every Gambian has the right to voice out their satisfactions and disatisfaction about their government.Call them dissidents or enemys of the Gambia,but the bottom line is,I believed that people like me and Ebrima ceesay are sick and tired of so call catholics and their likes who hide behind religions and religious beliefs to help african dictators to kill their own people.It could be true that mr Collins and his company intend to do good for the Gambian population but their profit making strategies include keeping dictators like yaya jammeh in power like they the Americans kept Mobutu iZaire at the expense of the Zairians.What kind of good work would be threatened by people voicing out their anger and frustration on Yaya and his government?Mr collins and his company can go back to America where they belong if their intention is to act as spies for the APRC and Yaya Jammeh.Reporting our actions to the elites of the Gambia government would highlight nothing but our struggle to bring democracy and the rule of law in our mother land. As the old form of slavery and colonialism came through the bible preached by so call Catholics and other missionaries,this time,we the Gambian people would not tolerate your million dollar investment to remain in economic and domestic slavery under Yaya Jammeh and his thugs.There is always something scary to people like Collins,once their profits are at stake.Doesn´t it matter at all to practising catholics like Collins to understand that Jesus died not for making profit but by preaching the good news, which means feeding the poor,clothing the naked and above all creating a fair and balance society where all people can live with dignity and justice. It seems to me Mr Alan Collins is more a spy than what he said he is (a practising catholic).Why would he want what he calls the name of the culprits to be pinpointed? Does he want to build a credible stand in front of the dictator by summiting these names? well mr Collins do good and good shall follow.You would not achieve much by acting responsible when the whole matter in question has nothing to do with you.You are an American so get your profit and stop getting too busy with matters that are entirely Gambian.We shall write ,talk demonstrate and stay together until we bring the dictator and his bandits to their knees. Good luck to you and HILO, but until then step back and let the Gambians do it in the Gambian way. And by the way you need some names, say hi to the dictator from me: nyanchor Kabu king kebba Sanneh >From: john brown <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:29:01 -0500 > >is it possible to have Mr. collins phone number?i really do need this >number. > >>From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: A Second e-mail from HILO >>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:36:41 -0000 >> >>Gambia-L: >> >>The unedited e-mail below is from HILO Gambia. It is sent to St John's >>University in the UN, and copied to me. It is signed one by Alan Collins, >>the company's "president". Enjoy reading it! >> >>Ebrima Ceesay >>Birmingham, UK >> >>__________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >>Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd >> >>November 29, 2000 >> >>Ms Julia Upton >>Provost >>St Johns University >>New York >>USA >> >>Via fax: 00 1 718 990 1894 >> >>Dear Ms Upton, >> >>“GAMBIA-L” – MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU >> >>I did telephone you earlier today to discuss this matter but I had to be >>content with leaving a voicemail message. >> >>I am an American citizen (and, I might add a practising Catholic) >>currently >>living in The Gambia. I am the President of Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd, >>itself an offshoot of our USA operations, based in Atlanta. >> >>We are very much involved with the Groundnut business here within The >>Gambia >>and we have currently invested several US$ millions into the sub-sector. >> >>We have become aware of a group of Gambian dissidents operating out of the >>United Kingdom, fronted by an ‘Ebrima Ceesay’ from Birmingham, England. >>These dissidents are clearly utilising the website/server of St Johns >>University as evidenced by the attached e-mails. These ‘hate-mails’ are >>beginning to become, for us, quite tiresome. In addition, they have become >>increasingly threatening and increasingly paranoid. >> >>I am immensely concerned that all of the good work we are doing within The >>Gambia is being jeopardised by this roving ‘rag-bag’ of political >>activists. >>I am very worried that not only are our investments placed at risk but the >>ominous threat of Atlanta-based fanatics to ‘check’ us out is quite scary. >> >>I am well aware that recent developments within the USA have prompted >>Companies to ban personal e-mail use over their systems. Indeed, it has >>become an illegal offence and Companies may prosecute. >>November 29, 2000 – Page (2) – contd., >> >>Ms J Upton – Provost >>St Johns University >>NY, USA – contd., >> >>How much more dangerous and irresponsible, therefore, for a US educational >>institute to allow its facilities to be manipulated in the manner >>described >>and evidenced herein. >> >>I would very much welcome your prompt advice that you have looked into >>this >>matter and perhaps brought the culprits to light. I should like to know >>the >>steps taken, perhaps the first of which is to pinpoint those ‘students’ >>from >>The Gambia presently attending any of the University’s campuses. >> >>I can assure you that I have brought this matter to the attention of the >>US >>Ambassador to The Gambia – George Haley – as well as to the attention of >>the >>highest authorities within the Government of The Gambia. >> >>I hope to have information from you by return detailing the steps you have >>taken to close this ‘unit’ of dissidents within St John’s. >> >>Yours very sincerely, >> >> >>Alan D Collins >>President >> >>Cc Information Technology – fax # 718 990 2002 >> >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________________________________ >>Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >>http://explorer.msn.com >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >>Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>You may also send subscription requests to >>[log in to unmask] >>if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write >>your >>full name and e-mail address. >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:27:24 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Alieu Bah <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Urgent Task Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi there: I believe I've discovered a bug with the JComponent class.I created a bean that extends JComponent making use of the method registerKeyboardAction (ActionListener anAction, String aCommand, KeyStroke aKeyStroke, int aCondition).When I made use of my bean in an application the keystokes that I registered using this method certainly worked fine, but then today I decided to use my bean in an applet. Suddenly the keystokes that I registered aren't working. I can't figure out why that is...or how to work around this problem? Here's the function in my bean that gets called when the bean first becomes initialized: private void registerKeyStrokes() { if(activeCellEnabled) { registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveLeft"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_LEFT, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveRight"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_RIGHT, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveUp"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_UP, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveDown"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_DOWN, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadWest"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD4, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadEast"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD6, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadNorth"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD8, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadSouth"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD2, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadNorthWest"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD7, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadNorthEast"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD9, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadSouthWest"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD1, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadSouthEast"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD3, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("CtrlEnter"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_ENTER, Event.CTRL_MASK), WHEN_FOCUSED ); registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("Control"), KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_CONTROL, Event.CTRL_MASK), WHEN_FOCUSED ); } } Like I said, I don't see anything wrong with it. It certainly works when used in an application. If you have had similar problem and know of a workaround, please let me know. Regards, Alieu _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:38:27 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Alieu Bah <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Urgent Task Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Folks, I sincerely apolgise for mistakenly posting this mail to the wrong group. It was meant for another group as you can see in the contents. Please disregard it. I hope I am forgiven...:) BR, Alieu >Hi there: > >I believe I've discovered a bug with the JComponent class.I created a bean >that extends JComponent making use of the method registerKeyboardAction >(ActionListener anAction, String aCommand, >KeyStroke aKeyStroke, int aCondition).When I made use of my bean in an >application the keystokes that I registered using this method certainly >worked fine, but then today I decided to use my bean in an applet. >Suddenly the keystokes that I registered aren't working. I can't figure out >why that is...or how to work around this problem? > >Here's the function in my bean that gets called when the bean first >becomes initialized: > > > >private void registerKeyStrokes() > { > if(activeCellEnabled) > { > registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveLeft"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_LEFT, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED); > registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveRight"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_RIGHT, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); > registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveUp"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_UP, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); > registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveDown"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_DOWN, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); > registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadWest"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD4, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); > registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadEast"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD6, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); > registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadNorth"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD8, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); > registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("MoveNumPadSouth"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD2, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); > registerKeyboardAction(new >NewAction("MoveNumPadNorthWest"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD7, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); > registerKeyboardAction(new >NewAction("MoveNumPadNorthEast"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD9, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); > registerKeyboardAction(new >NewAction("MoveNumPadSouthWest"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD1, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); > registerKeyboardAction(new >NewAction("MoveNumPadSouthEast"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_NUMPAD3, 0), WHEN_FOCUSED ); > registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("CtrlEnter"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_ENTER, Event.CTRL_MASK), >WHEN_FOCUSED > ); > registerKeyboardAction(new NewAction("Control"), > KeyStroke.getKeyStroke(KeyEvent.VK_CONTROL, Event.CTRL_MASK), > WHEN_FOCUSED ); > } > } > > > >Like I said, I don't see anything wrong with it. It certainly works when >used in an application. If you have had similar problem and know of a >workaround, please let me know. > >Regards, >Alieu > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:30:12 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: astrid christensen-tasong <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO BOSS REACTS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Is this the same person?? Hemmmm...... Astrid/ COLLINS BROKERAGE COMPANY, LLC 4640 Valais Court Tel: (770) 753-2980 Suite 200 Fax: (770) 753-2985 Alpharetta, GA 30022 E-mail: [log in to unmask] Alan D. Collins, President > >bingo! >the peanut company: >http://www.peanutsusa.com/ >quarsan >www.quarsan.net > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 10:47:36 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: We are talking about EU or Alimenta, Mr. Managing Director Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Ebrima, heartfelt thanks to you and your sources for the great job you are doing. I also thank the numerous subscribers that spoke out to put the record straight for this Collins fellow. He clearly does not know who he is antagonizing. Ebrima, when your sources said that we should 'check' this Hilo outfit, we took it as a good faith proposal and as I indicated in my email prior to the one from Mr. Collins, our aim was to identify the people behind this corporation (in America) and 'lobby them on behalf of our poor farmers'. It seems like Mr. Collins has been around the likes of Yaya too long and is now thinking along the same lines as thugs like Yaya. In his ill-advised message to St. Johns, he insinuated that we were threatening him with illegal behavior. Nothing can be further from the truth. Hilo is not our enemy (yet). In any case, we have a worst enemy in Yaya. In case Mr. Collins did not know, Yaya was here in the States a few months ago. No one threatened Yaya with illegal behavior. On the contrary, CNN captured a very orderly demonstration against the brutality Yaya represents. Yaya also has several diplomats working for him in Washington, DC and in New York city. None of those officials have ever been threatened by 'criminal, jealous, and communist dissidents'. We have better things to do. Collins must also be living in another age to think that he or St. Johns can silence us. Clearly he does not understand how these mailing lists work and their legal implications. Threatening St. Johns is like threatening the Post Office for sending a letter you do not like. That mail to St. Johns is absurd. It is laughable the way Collins was asking St. Johns to identify 'students'. As I indicated here before, the sad thing is that people like Collins only get exposed to the worst Gambians on earth. When they talk to high school drop-outs like Yaya, they think all Gambians are below the caliber of Yaya. Some of us can school this Collins character in his native language. He claims that his company invested $3 million in The Gambia and he thinks that he has contributed to our national development more than every Gambian living in the U.S. that opposes Yaya. Let me tell Collins something: in Atlanta alone, one person wired in excess of $1 million (in one year) on behalf of other Gambians that send money to their folks everyday. More money was sent from New York in the same year. Collins and his cohorts must be living in lala-land if they think that the salvation of the Gambians lie in the hands of thieves like Yaya. Another thing, we in the U.S. work hard for our money. We do not empty government coffers or rob banks. As someone indicated earlier on, S3 million is pittance compared to the $28 million Alimenta used to pump into the country. We have means of verifying whether they indeed brought the $3 million into the country. If Collins wants to play that game, fine with us. Furthermore, if Collins continues with this attitude, I can assure him that he will regret his actions. Collins' claims that Hilo is a $23 million company does not tally with what Mr. Jallow's sound research revealed. So, either Collins is exaggerating their yearly earnings or they are under-reporting the figures. Just like he has connections in the States, we also have connections. We have friends at the IRS (international division, office of general counsel). If he wants to get into the gutter, we are quite capable of doing that too. Frankly, we intended to deal with Hilo in a civilized manner. Unfortunately, Collins decided to side with the enemy and even went further than Yaya by trying to intimidate people on G_L. Their modus operandi is, when they cannot convince their opponents, they threaten them or burn their houses down or murder them in broad daylight or throw them in jail. Collins can try all he wants, but he cannot do anything to anyone of us. If he is really sure of himself, let him come to the U.S. and challenge us. He would be fighting a losing battle. As mentioned earlier on, Hilo might be in this for their $3 million. We are in this for the long haul. I for one will never rest until Yaya is in jail where he belongs. If people like Collins are dumb or cowardly enough to decide to be on Yaya's side, they do so at their own peril. Some of Collins' statements were pitiful. This man was admitting that the past few years our farmers had a rough ride with unscrupulous investors. Yet he always hastens to add that it was not the government's fault that our farmers were suffering. What kind of double-talk is that? These are the arguments of a man that would say or do anything to please Yaya and his corrupt cohorts. If it is not the government's fault, whose fault is it? Who booted out Alimenta and brought in Baba Jobe and the Libyans? If the government was in the right path, how come it has been defeated by Alimenta in every legal forum they have been so far? What kind of government will allow itself to be taken advantage of for three consecutive years? Does Collins think that Hilo and Yaya are doing Gambian farmers a favor by buying the grounds at prices reportedly lower than last year's? Reading some of Collins' irrational rattling, I even doubted that an English/American gentleman overseeing a multimillion dollar operation would author such garbage. He calls us communists, accuse the EU of trying to take-over Gambia, but then went ahead and tried to justify monopolizing the groundnut industry. What happened to free markets and competition? The Coke analogy was incomprehensible. Or does Hilo have intellectual property rights in groundnuts grown in The Gambia? There is a corporation in the U.S. called Pepsi in case Collins did not know. There is no justification for Hilo to be allowed to corner the market if they do not have the money it would require to buy the nuts from the farmers at competitive rates. It is understandable if Hilo brought in millions of dollars and made capital investments in addition to buying the groundnuts at good rates and then they negotiate to get a complete monopoly. But if they do not have the money to buy the nuts and the muscle to sell the nuts in the commodities markets, then they cannot be allowed to corner the market. We will be monitoring the local banking scene to see how much money Hilo pumps into the country and how much money they get from Yaya and his cronies. Finally, I would counsel Collins to focus on buying the nuts from the farmers at competitive rates (compared with Senegal). That is what we are also trying to achieve. The bottom-line for us is the welfare of our farmers. It is counterproductive for him to antagonize us. He might think that the stakes are high with him putting in a mere $3 million (compared to the remittances we make). I can assure him that the stakes will be higher if he continues in this infantile behavior. Yaya is fighting a war he cannot win. If I were Collins, I will not put all my eggs in Yaya's basket. If Hilo is not out to take advantage of the farmers, then they have nothing to fear from us. But if this is all a ploy to swindle defenseless Gambian farmers, then we will also do what we have to do. Before Collins has any dubious ideas, let me be very specific. Unlike Yaya, we will not do anything illegal to him or his company. But we will not hesitate to investigate them and take appropriate legal action against them when we get rid of Yaya. We will also not hesitate to take this matter up with the rightful legal authorities (such as the IRS) in the U.S. So Collins should be warned. Ebrima, I thank you and your sources again and encourage you to remain vigilant. I know these thugs cannot intimidate you. KB >From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: We are talking about EU or Alimenta, Mr. Managing Director >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:08:06 -0000 > >Gambia-L: > >The unedited e-mail below came from one of my sources in the heart of the >Gambian Government. > >Kebba Dampha: Thanks for the good job you did on HILO. You are an asset! > >Yus and George Sarr: Thanks for the postings. Good and thoughtful they >were! >In fact, I have decided to ignore this Alan Collins because I have other >important things to do. > >Ebrima Ceesay > >______________________________________________________________________ > >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: We are talking about EU or Alimenta, Mr. Managing Director >>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 >> >>Ebrima, >> >>The more I read the messages from Mr. Alan Collins, the more I believe >>that >>we are not dealing with a serious company. >> >>How can the Managing Director of HILO Company (Gambia) Ltd. logically >>extend the issue at hand to include the EU and Alimenta. We are talking >>about your company, Mr. Managing Director and not the EU and/or Alimenta. >>The latter is not in the same class with your "funny" company and the >>former is certainly not in the business of trading in commodities, at >>least >>as far as I am aware.Every Gambian interested in the groundnut sub-sector >>knows that Alimenta is one of the biggest players in the groundnut >>business. So please do not mention Alimenta in the same breath with HILO. >>Anyway, more will be revealed of HILO as you have seen information has >>already stated coming in. Brother, you have'nt seen nothing yet. >> >>You indicated that you have thus far paid out D10 million to farmers and >>that you have already invested $3 million. Well, for your information, at >>this time of the year, three years ago, Alimenta pumped into the system >>$20 >>million. No wonder with your "investment" of $3 million so far, the dalasi >>continue to depreciate by the minute. Why bring in your money in drips >>and >>drabs? >> >>No one is opposed to private operators entering the sector but it must be >>done in a transparent manner. That is all we are asking for. Is that too >>much to ask of you? >> > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:04:15 -0800 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Madiba Saidy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ramadan - 4 (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Receiving Ramadhan It is appropriate that every Muslim should receive the blessed month of Ramadan with repentance, sincerity, resoluteness and earnestness. He/she should make the intention to perform extra acts of devotion and worship therein, including the Night Prayer (qiyam), recitation of Qur'an, and abundant charity to the poor and needy. On the authority of Anas (may Allah be pleased with him): The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace), used to say the following when the month of Rajab began. "Oh Allah! Bless us in Rajab and Sha`ban, and bring us, oh Allah, to Ramadan." [Narrated by Tabarani and Ahmad] The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) addressed his companions on the last day of Sha`ban, saying, "Oh people! A great month has come over you; a blessed month; a month in which is a night better than a thousand months; month in which Allah has made it compulsory upon you to fast by day, and voluntary to pray by night. Whoever draws nearer (to Allah) by performing any of the (optional) good deeds in (this month) shall receive the same reward as performing an obligatory deed at any other time, and whoever discharges an obligatory deed in (this month) shall receive the reward of performing seventy obligations at any other time. It is the month of patience, and the reward of patience is Heaven. It is the month of charity, and a month in which a believer's sustenance is increased. Whoever gives food to a fasting person to break his fast, shall have his sins forgiven, and he will be saved from the Fire of Hell, and he shall have the same reward as the fasting person, without his reward being diminished at all." [Narrated by Ibn Khuzaymah] In another hadith, the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) says, "Ramadan has come to you. (It is) a month of blessing, in which Allah covers you with blessing, for He sends down Mercy, decreases sins and answers prayers. In it, Allah looks at your competition (in good deeds), and boasts about you to His angels. So show Allah goodness from yourselves, for the unfortunate one is he who is deprived in (this month) of the mercy of Allah, the Mighty, the Exalted." [Narrated by Tabarani] The preceding hadiths bring attention to readiness and preparation for receiving Ramadan. This is achieved by having a clear understanding of this month in one's mind, and greeting Ramadan with love and yearning. Also, one should have the determination and intention to perform good deeds and worship, and one should lay down a program to accomplish this in the days of the blessed month. It is communally obligatory upon the Muslims to seek the crescent at the time of sunset on the 29th day of Sha`ban, and the 29th day of Ramadan, in order to verify the status of the start and end of their fasting. When seeing the crescent, it is sunnah for the Muslim to supplicate with the following supplication, which has been reported from the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace). On the authority of Talhah ibn `Ubaydullah (may Allah be pleased with him): when the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) saw the crescent, he used to say, "Oh Allah! Cause it to appear over us with prosperity, faith (Iman), security and Islam. (Then to the moon:) My Lord and your Lord is Allah." [Narrated by Tirmidhi, who said it is a good (hasan) hadith.] Qatadah said that he was informed that the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) used to say, when seeing the crescent, "A crescent of goodness and orientation, a crescent of goodness and orientation, a crescent of goodness and orientation. (To the moon:) I believe in Allah who created you." (Three times), and then he would say, "Praise be to Allah who has taken away such- and-such month and brought such-and- such month." [Narrated by Abu Dawud] The month of Ramadan has excellences over the other months, as is testified to by the Qur'an and Sunnah, and out of these we will bring to attention the following virtues: 1. It is the month of the Qur'an, with regards to revelation and study. ("The month of Ramadan is that in which was revealed the Qur'an." [Qur'an, 2:185]). On the authority of Ibn `Abbas: Angel Gabriel used to meet the Prophet every night in Ramadan and used to study Qur'an with him. 2. It is the month of seclusion. Ibn `Umar said, "The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) used to seclude himself for the last ten days of the month of Ramadan." 3. It is the month of generosity. Ibn `Abbas said, "The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) used to be at his most generous in Ramadan." 4. It is the month of standing (in voluntary night prayer). On the authority of Abu Hurayrah: The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, "Whoever stands (in voluntary night prayer) during Ramadan, with faith and in expectancy of reward, his previous sins are forgiven him." 5. It is the month of the compulsory fast, because of Allah's saying, (meaning) "So, whoever among you witnesses the month should fast." [Qur'an, 2:185] A terrible error prevalent among people is to talk about Ramadan just as they talk about the obligation of fasting, as if Ramadan and fasting are synonymous, each carrying the meaning of the other and not anything more nor less. Yet, fasting is one of many acts of worship in Ramadan. Many reports have been narrated from the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) explaining the distinction of Ramadan, of which we have selected the following. "The month of Ramadan has come to you; a month of goodness and blessing." [Ibn Khuzaymah] "The Master of the Months is Ramadan, and the Master of the days is Friday." [Ibn Khuzaymah] "Whoever fasted Ramadan with faith and in expectancy of reward, his previous sins are forgiven him." [Bukhari and Muslim] "When Ramadan comes, the gates of Heaven are opened, the gates of Hell are closed, and the devils are chained." And in a narration from Nasa'i, the following words are added: "and a caller calls out every night: 'Oh seeker of Good, draw near! Oh seeker of Evil, desist!' " ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Quotes from The Holy Quran ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- A. Yousaf Ali Quran Translation 2:183 183. O ye who believe! fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you that ye may (learn) self-restraint. A. Yousaf Ali Quran Translation 2:184 184. (Fasting) for a fixed number of days; but if any of you is ill or on a journey the prescribed number (should be made up) from days later. For those who can do it (with hardship) is a ransom the feeding of one that is indigent. But he that will give more of his own free will it is better for him and it is better for you that ye fast if ye only knew. A. Yousaf Ali Quran Translation 2:185 185. Ramadan is the (month) in which was sent down the Qur'an as a guide to mankind also clear (Signs) for guidance and judgment (between right and wrong). So everyone of you who is present (at his home) during that month should spend it in fasting but if anyone is ill or on a journey the prescribed period (should be made up) by days later. Allah intends every facility for you He does not want to put you to difficulties. (He wants you) to complete the prescribed period and to glorify Him in that He has guided you; and perchance ye shall be grateful. A. Yousaf Ali Quran Translation 2:187 187. Permitted to you on the night of the fasts is the approach to your wives. They are your garments. And ye are their garments. Allah knoweth what ye used to do secretly among yourselves; but He turned to you and forgave you; so now associate with them and seek what Allah hath ordained for you and eat and drink until the white thread of dawn appear to you distinct from its black thread; then complete your fast till the night appears; but do not associate with your wives while ye are in retreat in the mosques. Those are limits (set by) Allah; approach not nigh thereto. Thus doth Allah make clear His signs to men that they may learn self-restraint. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Quotes from the Sahih Bukhari collection of Prophetic Hadith ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Sahih Bukhari Hadith 1.5 Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Allah's Apostle was the most generous of all the people, and he used to reach the peak in generosity in the month of Ramadan when Gabriel met him. Gabriel used to meet him every night of Ramadan to teach him the Qur'an. Allah's Apostle was the most generous person, even more generous than the strong uncontrollable wind (in readiness and haste to do charitable deeds). Sahih Bukhari Hadith 1.7 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: Islam is based on (the following) five (principles): 1. To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's Apostle. 2. To offer the (compulsory congregational) prayers dutifully and perfectly. 3. To pay Zakat (i.e. obligatory charity) . 4. To perform Hajj. (i.e. Pilgrimage to Mecca) 5. To observe fast during the month of Ramadan. Sahih Bukhari Hadith 1.36 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said: "Whoever establishes prayers during the nights of Ramadan faithfully out of sincere faith and hoping to attain Allah's rewards (not for showing off), all his past sins will be forgiven." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 1.37 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever observes fasts during the month of Ramadan out of sincere faith, and hoping to attain Allah's rewards, then all his past sins will be forgiven." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 1.46 Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (an evil doing) and killing him is Kufr (disbelief)." Narrated 'Ubada bin As-Samit: "Allah's Apostle went out to inform the people about the (date of the) night of decree (Al-Qadr) but there happened a quarrel between two Muslim men. The Prophet said, "I came out to inform you about (the date of) the night of Al-Qadr (Power), but as so and so and so and so quarreled, its knowledge was taken away (I forgot it) and maybe it was better for you. Now look for it in the 7th, the 9th and the 5th (of the last 10 nights of the month of Ramadan)." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 1.87 Narrated Abu Jamra: I was an interpreter between the people and Ibn 'Abbas. Once Ibn 'Abbas said that a delegation of the tribe of 'Abdul Qais came to the Prophet who asked them, "Who are the people (i.e. you)? (Or) who are the delegates?" They replied, "We are from the tribe of Rabi'a." Then the Prophet said to them, "Welcome, O people (or said, "O delegation (of 'Abdul Qais).") Neither will you have disgrace nor will you regret." They said, "We have come to you from a distant place and there is the tribe of the infidels of Mudar intervening between you and us and we cannot come to you except in the sacred month. So please order us to do something good (religious deeds) and that we may also inform our people whom we have left behind (at home) and that we may enter Paradise (by acting on them.)" The Prophet ordered them to do four things, and forbade them from four things. He ordered them to believe in Allah Alone, the Honorable the Majestic and said to them, "Do you know what is meant by believing in Allah Alone?" They replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." Thereupon the Prophet said, "(That means to testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is His Apostle, to offer prayers perfectly, to pay Zakat, to observe fasts during the month of Ramadan, (and) to pay Al-Khumus (one fifth of the booty to be given in Allah's cause)." Then he forbade them four things, namely Ad-Dubba.' Hantam, Muzaffat (and) An-Naqir or Muqaiyar (These were the names of pots in which alcoholic drinks used to be prepared). The Prophet further said, "Memorize them (these instructions) and tell them to the people whom you have left behind." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 1.549 Narrated Anas: Zaid bin Thabit said, "We took the "Suhur" (the meal taken before dawn while fasting is observed) with the Prophet and then stood up for the (morning) prayer." I asked him how long the interval between the two (Suhur and prayer) was. He replied, 'The interval between the two was just sufficient to recite fifty to Sixth 'Ayat." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 1.777 Narrated Abu Salama: Once I went to Abu- Sa'id Al-Khudri and asked him, "Won't you come with us to the date-palm trees to have a talk?" So Abu Said went out and I asked him, "Tell me what you heard from the Prophet about the Night of Qadr." Abu Said replied, "Once Allah's Apostle performed Itikaf (seclusion) on the first ten days of the month of Ramadan and we did the same with him. Gabriel came to him and said, 'The night you are looking for is ahead of you.' So the Prophet performed the Itikaf in the middle (second) ten days of the month of Ramadan and we too performed Itikaf with him. Gabriel came to him and said, 'The night which you are looking for is ahead of you.' In the morning of the 20th of Ramadan the Prophet delivered a sermon saying, 'Whoever has performed Itikaf with me should continue it. I have been shown the Night of "Qadr", but have forgotten its date, but it is in the odd nights of the last ten nights. I saw in my dream that I was prostrating in mud and water.' In those days the roof of the mosque was made of branches of date-palm trees. At that time the sky was clear and no cloud was visible, but suddenly a cloud came and it rained. The Prophet led us in the prayer and I saw the traces of mud on the forehead and on the nose of Allah's Apostle. So it was the confirmation of that dream." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Sahih Bukhari Hadith 2.229 Narrated 'Aisha, the mother of the faithful believers: One night Allah's Apostle offered the prayer in the Mosque and the people followed him. The next night he also offered the prayer and too many people gathered. On the third and the fourth nights more people gathered, but Allah's Apostle did not come out to them. In the morning he said, "I saw what you were doing and nothing but the fear that it (i.e. the prayer) might be enjoined on you, stopped me from coming to you." And that happened in the month of Ramadan. Sahih Bukhari Hadith 2.255 Narrated Nafi: Ibn 'Umar said, "In the lifetime of the Prophet I dreamt that a piece of silk cloth was in my hand and it flew with me to whichever part of Paradise I wanted. I also saw as if two persons (i.e. angels) came to me and wanted to take me to Hell. Then an angel met us and told me not to be afraid. He then told them to leave me. Hafsa narrated one of my dreams to the Prophet and the Prophet said, "Abdullah is a good man. Would that he offer the night prayer (Tahajjud)!" So after that day 'Abdullah (bin 'Umar) started offering Tahajjud. The companions of the Prophet (p.b.u.h) used to tell him their dreams that (Laila-tul-Qadr) was on the 27th of the month of Ramadan. The Prophet said, "I see that your dreams agree on the last ten nights of Ramadan and so whoever is in search of it should seek it in the last ten nights of Ramadan." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 2.587 Narrated Nafi': Ibn 'Umar said, "The Prophet made incumbent on every male or female, free man or slave, the payment of one Sa' of dates or barley as Sadaqat-ul-Fitr (or said Sadaqa-Ramadan)." The people then substituted half Sa' of wheat for that. Ibn 'Umar used to give dates (as Sadaqat-ul-Fitr). Once there was scarcity of dates in Medina and Ibn 'Umar gave barley. 'And Ibn 'Umar used to give Sadaqat-ul-Fitr for every young and old person. He even used to give on behalf of my children. Ibn 'Umar used to give Sadaqat-ul-Fitr to those who had been officially appointed for its collection. People used to give Sadaqat-ul-Fitr (even) a day or two before the 'Id. Sahih Bukhari Hadith 2.288 Narrated Qaza'a Maula: (freed slave of) Ziyad: I heard Abu Said Al- khudri narrating four things from the Prophet and I appreciated them very much. He said, conveying the words of the Prophet. (1) "A woman should not go on a two day journey except with her husband or a Dhi- Mahram. (2) No fasting is permissible on two days: 'Id-ul-Fitr and 'Id-ul-Adha. (3) No prayer after two prayers, i.e. after the Fajr prayer till the sunrises and after the 'Asr prayer till the sun sets. (4) Do not prepare yourself for a journey except to three Mosques, i.e. Al-Masjid-AI-Haram, the Mosque of Aqsa (Jerusalem) and my Mosque." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 2.662 Narrated 'Aisha: The people used to fast on 'Ashura (the tenth day of the month of Muharram) before the fasting of Ramadan was made obligatory. And on that day the Ka'ba used to be covered with a cover. When Allah made the fasting of the month of Ramadan compulsory, Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever wishes to fast (on the day of 'Ashura') may do so; and whoever wishes to leave it can do so." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.10 Narrated Ata: I heard Ibn 'Abbas saying, "Allah's Apostle asked an Ansari woman (Ibn 'Abbas named her but 'Ata' forgot her name), 'What prevented you from performing Hajj with us?' She replied, 'We have a camel and the father of so-and-so and his son (i.e. her husband and her son) rode it and left one camel for us to use for irrigation.' He said (to her), 'Perform 'Umra when Ramadan comes, for 'Umra in Ramadan is equal to Hajj (in reward),' or said something similar." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.115 Narrated Talha bin 'Ubaidullah: A bedouin with unkempt hair came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Inform me what Allah has made compulsory for me as regards the prayers." He replied: "You have to offer perfectly the five compulsory prayers in a day and night (24 hours), unless you want to pray Nawafil." The bedouin further asked, "Inform me what Allah has made compulsory for me as regards fasting." He replied, "You have to fast during the whole month of Ramadan, unless you want to fast more as Nawafil." The bedouin further asked, "Tell me how much Zakat Allah has enjoined on me." Thus, Allah's Apostle informed him about all the rules (i.e. fundamentals) of Islam. The bedouin then said, "By Him Who has honored you, I will neither perform any Nawafil nor will I decrease what Allah has enjoined on me. Allah's Apostle said, "If he is saying the truth, he will succeed (or he will be granted Paradise)." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.116 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: The Prophet observed the fast on the 10th of Muharram ('Ashura), and ordered (Muslims) to fast on that day, but when the fasting of the month of Ramadan was prescribed, the fasting of the 'Ashura' was abandoned. 'Abdullah did not use to fast on that day unless it coincided with his routine fasting by chance. Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.117 Narrated 'Aisha: (The tribe of) Quraish used to fast on the day of Ashura' in the Pre-Islamic period, and then Allah's Apostle ordered (Muslims) to fast on it till the fasting in the month of Ramadan was prescribed; whereupon the Prophet said, "He who wants to fast (on 'Ashura') may fast, and he who does not want to fast may not fast." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.118 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Fasting is a shield (or a screen or a shelter). So, the person observing fasting should avoid sexual relation with his wife and should not behave foolishly and impudently, and if somebody fights with him or abuses him, he should tell him twice, 'I am fasting." The Prophet added, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, the smell coming out from the mouth of a fasting person is better in the sight of Allah than the smell of musk. (Allah says about the fasting person), 'He has left his food, drink and desires for My sake. The fast is for Me. So I will reward (the fasting person) for it and the reward of good deeds is multiplied ten times." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.122 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "When Ramadan begins, the gates of Paradise are opened." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.123 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "When the month of Ramadan starts, the gates of the heaven are opened and the gates of Hell are closed and the devils are chained." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.124 Narrated Ibn Umar: I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "When you see the crescent (of the month of Ramadan), start fasting, and when you see the crescent (of the month of Shawwal), stop fasting; and if the sky is overcast (and you can't see it) then regard the month of Ramadan as of 30 days." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.125 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Whoever established prayers on the night of Qadr out of sincere faith and hoping for a reward from Allah, then all his previous sins will be forgiven; and whoever fasts in the month of Ramadan out of sincere faith, and hoping for a reward from Allah, then all his previous sins will be forgiven." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.126 Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet was the most generous amongst the people, and he used to be more so in the month of Ramadan when Gabriel visited him, and Gabriel used to meet him on every night of Ramadan till the end of the month. The Prophet used to recite the Holy Qur'an to Gabriel, and when Gabriel met him, he used to be more generous than a fast wind (which causes rain and welfare). Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.127 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Whoever does not give up forged speech and evil actions, Allah is not in need of his leaving his food and drink (i.e. Allah will not accept his fasting.)" Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.128 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Allah said, 'All the deeds of Adam's sons (people) are for them, except fasting which is for Me, and I will give the reward for it.' Fasting is a shield or protection from the fire and from committing sins. If one of you is fasting, he should avoid sexual relation with his wife and quarreling, and if somebody should fight or quarrel with him, he should say, 'I am fasting.' By Him in Whose Hands my soul is' The unpleasant smell coming out from the mouth of a fasting person is better in the sight of Allah than the smell of musk. There are two pleasures for the fasting person, one at the time of breaking his fast, and the other at the time when he will meet his Lord; then he will be pleased because of his fasting." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.130 Narrated Abdullah bin Umar: Allah's Apostle mentioned Ramadan and said, "Do not fast unless you see the crescent (of Ramadan), and do not give up fasting till you see the crescent (of Shawwal), but if the sky is overcast (if you cannot see it), then act on estimation (i.e. count Sha'ban as 30 days)." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.133 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet or Abul-Qasim said, "Start fasting on seeing the crescent (of Ramadan), and give up fasting on seeing the crescent (of Shawwal), and if the sky is overcast (and you cannot see it), complete thirty days of Sha'ban." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.136 Narrated Abu Bakra: The Prophet said, "The two months of 'Id i.e. Ramadan and Dhul-Hijja, do not decrease (in superiority)." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.138 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "None of you should fast a day or two before the month of Ramadan unless he has the habit of fasting (Nawafil) (and if his fasting coincides with that day) then he can fast that day." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.139 Narrated Al-Bara: It was the custom among the companions of Muhammad that if any of them was fasting and the food was presented (for breaking his fast), but he slept before eating, he would not eat that night and the following day till sunset. Qais bin Sirma-al-Ansari was fasting and came to his wife at the time of Iftar (breaking one's fast) and asked her whether she had anything to eat. She replied, "No, but I would go and bring some for you." He used to do hard work during the day, so he was overwhelmed by sleep and slept. When his wife came and saw him, she said, "Disappointment for you." When it was midday on the following day, he fainted and the Prophet was informed about the whole matter and the following verses were revealed: "You are permitted To go to your wives (for sexual relation) At the night of fasting." So, they were overjoyed by it. And then Allah also revealed: "And eat and drink Until the white thread Of dawn appears to you Distinct from the black thread (of the night)." (2.187) Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.149 Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet used to kiss and embrace (his wives) while he was fasting, and he had more power to control his desires than any of you. Said Jabir, "The person who gets discharge after casting a look (on his wife) should complete his fast." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.152 Narrated 'Aisha: (At times) in Ramadan the Prophet used to take a bath in the morning not because of a wet dream and would continue his fast. Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.154 Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "If somebody eats or drinks forgetfully then he should complete his fast, for what he has eaten or drunk, has been given to him by Allah." Narrated 'Amir bin Rabi'a, "I saw the Prophet cleaning his teeth with Siwak while he was fasting so many times as I can't count." And narrated Abu Huraira, "The Prophet said, 'But for my fear that it would be hard for my followers, I would have ordered them to clean their teeth with Siwak on every performance of ablution." The same is narrated by Jabir and Zaid bin Khalid from the Prophet who did not differentiate between a fasting and a nonfasting person in this respect (using Siwak). Aisha said, "The Prophet said, "It (i.e. Siwak) is a purification for the mouth and it is a way of seeking Allah's pleasures." Ata' and Qatada said, "There is no harm in swallowing the resultant saliva." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.156 Narrated 'Aisha: A man came to the Prophet and said that he had been burnt (ruined). The Prophet asked him what was the matter. He replied, "I had sexual intercourse with my wife in Ramadan (while I was fasting)." Then a basket full of dates was brought to the Prophet and he asked, "Where is the burnt (ruined) man?" He replied, "I am present." The Prophet told him to give that basket in charity (as expiation). Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.158 Narrated Abu Huraira: A man came to the Prophet and said, "I had sexual intercourse with my wife on Ramadan (while fasting)." The Prophet asked him, "Can you afford to manumit a slave?" He replied in the negative. The Prophet asked him, "Can you fast for two successive months?" He replied in the negative. He asked him, "Can you afford to feed sixty poor persons?" He replied in the negative. (Abu Huraira added): Then a basket full of dates was brought to the Prophet and he said (to that man), "Feed (poor people) with this by way of atonement." He said, "(Should I feed it) to poorer people than we? There is no poorer house than ours between its (Medina's) mountains." The Prophet said, "Then feed your family with it." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.162 Narrated Ibn Abi Aufa: We were in the company of Allah's Apostle on a journey. He said to a man, "Get down and mix Sawiq (powdered barley) with water for me." The man said, "The sun (has not set yet), O Allah's Apostle." The Prophet again said to him, "Get down and mix Sawiq with water for me." The man again said, "O Allah's Apostle! The sun!" The Prophet said to him (for the third time) "Get down and mix Sawiq with water for me." The man dismounted and mixed Sawiq with water for him. The Prophet drank it and then beckoned with his hand (towards the East) and said, "When you see the night falling from this side, then a fasting person should break his fast." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.165 Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Allah's Apostle set out for Mecca in Ramadan and he fasted, and when he reached Al-Kadid, he broke his fast and the people (with him) broke their fast too. (Abu 'Abdullah said, "Al- Kadid is a land covered with water between Usfan and Qudaid.") Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.167 Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle was on a journey and saw a crowd of people, and a man was being shaded (by them). He asked, "What is the matter?" They said, "He (the man) is fasting." The Prophet said, "It is not righteousness that you fast on a journey." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.169 Narrated Tawus: Ibn 'Abbas said, "Allah's Apostle set out from Medina to Mecca and he fasted till he reached 'Usfan, where he asked for water and raised his hand to let the people see him, and then broke the fast, and did not fast after that till he reached Mecca, and that happened in Ramadan." Ibn 'Abbas used to say, "Allah's Apostle (sometimes) fasted and (sometimes) did not fast during the journeys so whoever wished to fast could fast, and whoever wished not to fast, could do so." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.171 Narrated 'Aisha: Sometimes I missed some days of Ramadan, but could not fast in lieu of them except in the month of Sha'ban." Said Yahya, a sub-narrator, "She used to be busy serving the Prophet ." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.173 Narrated 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever died and he ought to have fasted (the missed days of Ramadan) then his guardians must fast on his behalf." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.174 Narrated Ibn Abbas: A man came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah's Apostle! My mother died and she ought to have fasted one month (for her missed Ramadan). Shall I fast on her behalf?" The Prophet replied in the affirmative and said, "Allah's debts have more right to be paid." In another narration a woman is reported to have said, "My sister died..." Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: A woman said to the Prophet "My mother died and she had vowed to fast but she didn't fast." In another narration Ibn 'Abbas is reported to have said, "A woman said to the Prophet, "My mother died while she ought to have fasted for fifteen days." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.175 Narrated Umar bin Al-Khattab: Allah's Apostle said, "When night falls from this side and the day vanishes from this side and the sun sets, then the fasting person should break his fast." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.177 Narrated Abdullah bin Abi Aufa: We were in the company of the Prophet on a journey and he was fasting, and when the sun set, he addressed somebody, "O so-and-so, get up and mix Sawiq with water for us." He replied, "O Allah's Apostle! (Will you wait) till it is evening?" The Prophet said, "Get down and mix Sawiq with water for us." He replied, "O Allah's Apostle! (If you wait) till it is evening." The Prophet said again, "Get down and mix Sawiq with water for us." He replied, "It is still daytime."(1) The Prophet said again, "Get down and mix Sawiq with water for us." He got down and mixed Sawiq for them. The Prophet drank it and then said, "When you see night falling from this side, the fasting person should break his fast." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.190 Narrated 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle used to fast till one would say that he would never stop fasting, and he would abandon fasting till one would say that he would never fast. I never saw Allah's Apostle fasting for a whole month except the month of Ramadan, and did not see him fasting in any month more than in the month of Sha'ban. Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.192 Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet never fasted a full month except the month of Ramadan, and he used to fast till one could say, "By Allah, he will never stop fasting," and he would abandon fasting till one would say, "By Allah, he will never fast." Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.204 Narrated Mutarrif from 'Imran Ibn Husain: That the Prophet asked him (Imran) or asked a man and Imran was listening, "O Abu so-and-so! Have you fasted the last days of this month?" (The narrator thought that he said, "the month of Ramadan"). The man replied, "No, O Allah's Apostle!" The Prophet said to him, "When you finish your fasting (of Ramadan) fast two days (in Shawwal)." Through another series of narrators 'Imran said, "The Prophet said, '(Have you fasted) the last days of Sha'ban?" Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.211 Narrated Abu 'Ubaid: (the slave of Ibn Azhar) I witnessed the 'Id with 'Umar bin Al-Khattab who said, Allah's Apostle has forbidden people to fast on the day on which you break fasting (the fasts of Ramadan) and the day on which you eat the meat of your sacrifices (the first day of 'Id ul Fitr and 'Id ul-Adha). Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.219 Narrated 'Aisha: Allah's Apostle ordered (the Muslims) to fast on the day of 'Ashura', and when fasting in the month of Ramadan was prescribed, it became optional for one to fast on that day ('Ashura') or not. Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.220 Narrated Aisha: Quraish used to fast on the day of 'Ashura' in the Pre-Islamic period, and Allah's Apostle too, used to fast on that day. When he came to Medina, he fasted on that day and ordered others to fast, too. Later when the fasting of the month of Ramadan was prescribed, he gave up fasting on the day of 'Ashura' and it became optional for one to fast on it or not. Sahih Bukhari Hadith 3.224 Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: I never saw the Prophet seeking to fast on a day more (preferable to him) than this day, the day of 'Ashura', or this month, i.e. the month of Ramadan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Hadith Qudsi 10 Fasting is Mine and it I who give reward for it. [A man] gives up his sexual passion, his food and his drink for my sake. Fasting is like a shield, and he who fasts has two joys: a joy whin he breaks his fast and a joy when he meets his Lord. The change in the breath of the mouth of him who fasts is better in Allah's estimation than the smell of musk. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- compiled by Tariq Jangda ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:10:35 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Fatou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: We are talking about EU or Alimenta, Mr. Managing Director MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well said Mr Dampha.I hope all this email replies is forwarded to him so that he knows he is not dealing with a bunch of cowards as thought.Mr Collins got some nerve to be sending a private email to Mr Ceesay and not knowing it will be forwarded to us to read.If he is for real,why the threats for crying out loud?If he doesn[t have anything to hide,then like they say:IT's ON. Fatou Mbasu Nyang -----Original Message----- From: Dampha Kebba [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 10:48 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: We are talking about EU or Alimenta, Mr. Managing Director Ebrima, heartfelt thanks to you and your sources for the great job you are doing. I also thank the numerous subscribers that spoke out to put the record straight for this Collins fellow. He clearly does not know who he is antagonizing. Ebrima, when your sources said that we should 'check' this Hilo outfit, we took it as a good faith proposal and as I indicated in my email prior to the one from Mr. Collins, our aim was to identify the people behind this corporation (in America) and 'lobby them on behalf of our poor farmers'. It seems like Mr. Collins has been around the likes of Yaya too long and is now thinking along the same lines as thugs like Yaya. In his ill-advised message to St. Johns, he insinuated that we were threatening him with illegal behavior. Nothing can be further from the truth. Hilo is not our enemy (yet). In any case, we have a worst enemy in Yaya. In case Mr. Collins did not know, Yaya was here in the States a few months ago. No one threatened Yaya with illegal behavior. On the contrary, CNN captured a very orderly demonstration against the brutality Yaya represents. Yaya also has several diplomats working for him in Washington, DC and in New York city. None of those officials have ever been threatened by 'criminal, jealous, and communist dissidents'. We have better things to do. Collins must also be living in another age to think that he or St. Johns can silence us. Clearly he does not understand how these mailing lists work and their legal implications. Threatening St. Johns is like threatening the Post Office for sending a letter you do not like. That mail to St. Johns is absurd. It is laughable the way Collins was asking St. Johns to identify 'students'. As I indicated here before, the sad thing is that people like Collins only get exposed to the worst Gambians on earth. When they talk to high school drop-outs like Yaya, they think all Gambians are below the caliber of Yaya. Some of us can school this Collins character in his native language. He claims that his company invested $3 million in The Gambia and he thinks that he has contributed to our national development more than every Gambian living in the U.S. that opposes Yaya. Let me tell Collins something: in Atlanta alone, one person wired in excess of $1 million (in one year) on behalf of other Gambians that send money to their folks everyday. More money was sent from New York in the same year. Collins and his cohorts must be living in lala-land if they think that the salvation of the Gambians lie in the hands of thieves like Yaya. Another thing, we in the U.S. work hard for our money. We do not empty government coffers or rob banks. As someone indicated earlier on, S3 million is pittance compared to the $28 million Alimenta used to pump into the country. We have means of verifying whether they indeed brought the $3 million into the country. If Collins wants to play that game, fine with us. Furthermore, if Collins continues with this attitude, I can assure him that he will regret his actions. Collins' claims that Hilo is a $23 million company does not tally with what Mr. Jallow's sound research revealed. So, either Collins is exaggerating their yearly earnings or they are under-reporting the figures. Just like he has connections in the States, we also have connections. We have friends at the IRS (international division, office of general counsel). If he wants to get into the gutter, we are quite capable of doing that too. Frankly, we intended to deal with Hilo in a civilized manner. Unfortunately, Collins decided to side with the enemy and even went further than Yaya by trying to intimidate people on G_L. Their modus operandi is, when they cannot convince their opponents, they threaten them or burn their houses down or murder them in broad daylight or throw them in jail. Collins can try all he wants, but he cannot do anything to anyone of us. If he is really sure of himself, let him come to the U.S. and challenge us. He would be fighting a losing battle. As mentioned earlier on, Hilo might be in this for their $3 million. We are in this for the long haul. I for one will never rest until Yaya is in jail where he belongs. If people like Collins are dumb or cowardly enough to decide to be on Yaya's side, they do so at their own peril. Some of Collins' statements were pitiful. This man was admitting that the past few years our farmers had a rough ride with unscrupulous investors. Yet he always hastens to add that it was not the government's fault that our farmers were suffering. What kind of double-talk is that? These are the arguments of a man that would say or do anything to please Yaya and his corrupt cohorts. If it is not the government's fault, whose fault is it? Who booted out Alimenta and brought in Baba Jobe and the Libyans? If the government was in the right path, how come it has been defeated by Alimenta in every legal forum they have been so far? What kind of government will allow itself to be taken advantage of for three consecutive years? Does Collins think that Hilo and Yaya are doing Gambian farmers a favor by buying the grounds at prices reportedly lower than last year's? Reading some of Collins' irrational rattling, I even doubted that an English/American gentleman overseeing a multimillion dollar operation would author such garbage. He calls us communists, accuse the EU of trying to take-over Gambia, but then went ahead and tried to justify monopolizing the groundnut industry. What happened to free markets and competition? The Coke analogy was incomprehensible. Or does Hilo have intellectual property rights in groundnuts grown in The Gambia? There is a corporation in the U.S. called Pepsi in case Collins did not know. There is no justification for Hilo to be allowed to corner the market if they do not have the money it would require to buy the nuts from the farmers at competitive rates. It is understandable if Hilo brought in millions of dollars and made capital investments in addition to buying the groundnuts at good rates and then they negotiate to get a complete monopoly. But if they do not have the money to buy the nuts and the muscle to sell the nuts in the commodities markets, then they cannot be allowed to corner the market. We will be monitoring the local banking scene to see how much money Hilo pumps into the country and how much money they get from Yaya and his cronies. Finally, I would counsel Collins to focus on buying the nuts from the farmers at competitive rates (compared with Senegal). That is what we are also trying to achieve. The bottom-line for us is the welfare of our farmers. It is counterproductive for him to antagonize us. He might think that the stakes are high with him putting in a mere $3 million (compared to the remittances we make). I can assure him that the stakes will be higher if he continues in this infantile behavior. Yaya is fighting a war he cannot win. If I were Collins, I will not put all my eggs in Yaya's basket. If Hilo is not out to take advantage of the farmers, then they have nothing to fear from us. But if this is all a ploy to swindle defenseless Gambian farmers, then we will also do what we have to do. Before Collins has any dubious ideas, let me be very specific. Unlike Yaya, we will not do anything illegal to him or his company. But we will not hesitate to investigate them and take appropriate legal action against them when we get rid of Yaya. We will also not hesitate to take this matter up with the rightful legal authorities (such as the IRS) in the U.S. So Collins should be warned. Ebrima, I thank you and your sources again and encourage you to remain vigilant. I know these thugs cannot intimidate you. KB >From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: We are talking about EU or Alimenta, Mr. Managing Director >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 01:08:06 -0000 > >Gambia-L: > >The unedited e-mail below came from one of my sources in the heart of the >Gambian Government. > >Kebba Dampha: Thanks for the good job you did on HILO. You are an asset! > >Yus and George Sarr: Thanks for the postings. Good and thoughtful they >were! >In fact, I have decided to ignore this Alan Collins because I have other >important things to do. > >Ebrima Ceesay > >______________________________________________________________________ > >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: We are talking about EU or Alimenta, Mr. Managing Director >>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 >> >>Ebrima, >> >>The more I read the messages from Mr. Alan Collins, the more I believe >>that >>we are not dealing with a serious company. >> >>How can the Managing Director of HILO Company (Gambia) Ltd. logically >>extend the issue at hand to include the EU and Alimenta. We are talking >>about your company, Mr. Managing Director and not the EU and/or Alimenta. >>The latter is not in the same class with your "funny" company and the >>former is certainly not in the business of trading in commodities, at >>least >>as far as I am aware.Every Gambian interested in the groundnut sub-sector >>knows that Alimenta is one of the biggest players in the groundnut >>business. So please do not mention Alimenta in the same breath with HILO. >>Anyway, more will be revealed of HILO as you have seen information has >>already stated coming in. Brother, you have'nt seen nothing yet. >> >>You indicated that you have thus far paid out D10 million to farmers and >>that you have already invested $3 million. Well, for your information, at >>this time of the year, three years ago, Alimenta pumped into the system >>$20 >>million. No wonder with your "investment" of $3 million so far, the dalasi >>continue to depreciate by the minute. Why bring in your money in drips >>and >>drabs? >> >>No one is opposed to private operators entering the sector but it must be >>done in a transparent manner. That is all we are asking for. Is that too >>much to ask of you? >> > >___________________________________________________________________________ __________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ Get more from the Web. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit KB, Thanks for bringing up the discrepancies between the numbers given by Mr. Hilo president and what is supposedly reported by his parent company in the U.S. I was going to send a follow up message specifically dealing with this observation. But your usual vigilance and tact has beaten me to the gun. What Mr. Collins need to know is, as you rightly mentioned, he has nothing to hide or fear if he truly believes that he is in this with a clean heart and a clean closet. He needs to know that when it comes to the farmers' well-being, we will not budge. I for one, has a sentimental obligation to push this issue to where it needs to go. Being from a farming background I know what it is like when these poor folks get the meagre cash at the end of a long hard summer in the fields. I need not dwell on that since most on this list can relate to what I am talking about. I can understand, due to the lapse of time, there may be a siginificant change in the net worth and revenue structure of your company between SEC filings, but it will be interesting to hear you explain the jump from a net worth of $127,250 or total revenue structure of $10,062,938 to a $23,000,000 mark as indicated in your response to Ebrima. Yaya may be your fool but not GAMBIA and GAMBIANS. Stick that in...... If Yayas' group of fools did not take the time to do their homework to dig out information about your corporation before putting the lifeline of hundreds of thousands of poor farmers in your hands, we will do the work if it comes down to just that. Make no mistake about that. Abdoulie A. Jallow Toll-free number: 1-888-392-4832(Excite2) Personal extension for v/mail/fax: 291-368-1519 _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? 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Saihou >From: Alan D Collins <[log in to unmask]> >To: Saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]> >CC: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:29:28 +0000 > >Gentlemen, > >The creatures are emerging from the slime of political activism. > >The more the better. > >I owe no-one an apology for investing in The Gambia and attempting to >make matters better for its people. > >You people are the ones that owe apologies and should bow to the >Almighty in supplication with cries of repentance. > >If Mr Ceesay is a journalist, a fact that I doubt very much because his >spelling is so atrocious, then he should recognize the difference >between journalism and libel. Clearly, he does not. > >Why is there a need to investigate an investor? Why is there a need to >investigate a Company that has already paid Gambian farmers D 10 >million, and will eventually pay them over D 100 million for their >peanuts? Why is there a need to investigate a Company no matter how >'funny' that has to date invested almost US$ 3 million in plant, >equipment, machinery, rennovation and refurbishment at Dentoin Bridge? > >Instead of investigating, behind 'funny' HOTMAIL addresses, you should >show yourselves and again thank the Almighty for a Company that is >investing in The Gambia to its benefit. > >Again, you commit libel. Hilo has NO contract whatsoever with The >Government of The Gambia. As such we are taking an enormous risk, but >unlike yourselves, we are prepared so to do. > >What are you and your ilk risking? You are even afraid of the light of >the day as you shirk in the shadows. > >My behaviour is admirable in comparison to you political activists. Hilo >will do more for The Gambia than you people ever will. > >I respect ALL opinions that are worthy of respect. Yours are unworthy, >conducted as they are from the depths. > >I amy not be born Gambian, but I have travelled the length and breadth >of this country and I will try to do more for your people than you would >ever consider possible. > >But, we begin a dialogue. That is good. Perhaps you can yet be persuaded >that you are wrong; perhaps not. In any event, be assured that you do >not fight a 'noble' fight. There is nothing noble in your lies and >libel. Nobility is beyond you. Or, can you prove me wrong? > >Sincerely, > >Alan D Collins _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Saihou Mballow wrote: > This morning i posted my comments to the gambia-l and copied to Mr..Collins > and below is what he has replied to me.His reply totally demonstrates what > type of a lunatic he is and trying to hide some thing. > > Saihou > > > >From: Alan D Collins <[log in to unmask]> > >To: Saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]> > >CC: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO > >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:29:28 +0000 > > > >Gentlemen, > > > >The creatures are emerging from the slime of political activism. > > > >The more the better. > > > >I owe no-one an apology for investing in The Gambia and attempting to > >make matters better for its people. > > > >You people are the ones that owe apologies and should bow to the > >Almighty in supplication with cries of repentance. > > > >If Mr Ceesay is a journalist, a fact that I doubt very much because his > >spelling is so atrocious, then he should recognize the difference > >between journalism and libel. Clearly, he does not. > > > >Why is there a need to investigate an investor? Why is there a need to > >investigate a Company that has already paid Gambian farmers D 10 > >million, and will eventually pay them over D 100 million for their > >peanuts? Why is there a need to investigate a Company no matter how > >'funny' that has to date invested almost US$ 3 million in plant, > >equipment, machinery, rennovation and refurbishment at Dentoin Bridge? > > > >Instead of investigating, behind 'funny' HOTMAIL addresses, you should > >show yourselves and again thank the Almighty for a Company that is > >investing in The Gambia to its benefit. > > > >Again, you commit libel. Hilo has NO contract whatsoever with The > >Government of The Gambia. As such we are taking an enormous risk, but > >unlike yourselves, we are prepared so to do. > > > >What are you and your ilk risking? You are even afraid of the light of > >the day as you shirk in the shadows. > > > >My behaviour is admirable in comparison to you political activists. Hilo > >will do more for The Gambia than you people ever will. > > > >I respect ALL opinions that are worthy of respect. Yours are unworthy, > >conducted as they are from the depths. > > > >I amy not be born Gambian, but I have travelled the length and breadth > >of this country and I will try to do more for your people than you would > >ever consider possible. > > > >But, we begin a dialogue. That is good. Perhaps you can yet be persuaded > >that you are wrong; perhaps not. In any event, be assured that you do > >not fight a 'noble' fight. There is nothing noble in your lies and > >libel. Nobility is beyond you. Or, can you prove me wrong? > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Alan D Collins > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:41:03 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ceesay Soffie <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Why is there a need to investigate an investor? Why is there a need to > >investigate a Company that has already paid Gambian farmers D 10 > >million, and will eventually pay them over D 100 million for their > >peanuts? Why is there a need to investigate a Company no matter how > >'funny' that has to date invested almost US$ 3 million in plant, > >equipment, machinery, rennovation and refurbishment at Dentoin Bridge? * > "Being responsible sometimes means pissing people off." HI and now LO Collins seems to have been royally pissed off by our honest interest in ensuring that our farmers are not, again, buffaloed by Yaya and his parade of companies-come-to-save-our-economy, to threaten us. I take it that you and your company did not investigate or do a feasibility study on the Gambia before "investing" in our country? Or, were you guaranteed ease of market entry and monopoly by those not averse to having their pockets greased? Given the groundnut buying fiasco of the past, any six year old just learning about needs, wants, and responsibility understands the prudence of investigating an "investor". I think your company and any company for that matter, with "good intentions", has been served notice that we won't engage in a wait and see game when by the time we have gathered enough facts, it is too late. An evolving population cannot afford to be complacent and we will remain passionate, responsible, vigilant, and combative for Gambia, nothing against you, if you can understand it. Soffie Ceesay ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:44:00 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Hamadi Banna <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO BOSS REACTS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I'm surprised that Mr. Collins can use such desultory, indeed racist language to react to Ebrima Ceesay's source of information. What is more shocking, though, is that Mr. Collins threatens legal action against a people who are expressing genuine concerns about their own country. He claims dual US-UK citizenship, countries where the rule of law does not condone the cold murder of school children, the abduction and murder of government officials, the arbitrary arrest and detention of critics, and the blatant siphoning of public money. Show me your friend and I'll tell you who you are. Mr. Collins shares the same bed with a President whose human rights record is one of the worst in Africa. Yet, he threatens to contact the INS about these 'illegal aliens' that are using St. John's University to question his business interests in The Gambia. Does he know he is dealing with a mailing list hosted on a server at St. John’s. Duh! I wonder whether Mr. Collins is a Republican? His high sounding and glaring racism (rhetoric about illegal aliens, etc.) shouldn't be shocking if we should assume that he is from the Deep South-if his company address is anything to go by. Yes, the Deep South, the hotbed of racism in the US, whose history is full of horrifying stories of 'Jim Crow', mob lynching, the mass murder and rape of black people… and yes, cotton growing and peanuts shelling. No wonder that his friend, President Jammeh, has hurriedly congratulated the man who helps grease the Texas death chamber with the bodies of black children. Almost four decades after our 'independence', African governments are still allowing our countries to be used as junkyards and our people as guinea pigs. 'Funny', and seedy little companies like Hilo (Kilo?) led by dubious characters would be implanted on African soil while the top executives of the host country would connive with the expatriates to milk our economies. No doubt Mr. Collins thinks we're stupid, that he can scare us away like weaverbirds on a cotton field. At the end of it all, it is the Gambian farmer who will be taken for another ride. They'll be handed promissory notes of dirt-cheap prices for their crops, humiliated if they should protest, and intimidated to vote for President Jammeh the next round of elections. Meanwhile, most of them cannot afford the exorbitant costs of education, they eat good meat maybe once a year (during Tobaski), and they eventally die of birth pangs on a donkey cart or succumb to a curable tropical disease due to the absence of drugs. All what Mr. Collins has said in his various emails is peanuts! As concerned citizens, we need to know the credibility of Hilo (Kilo?)and what recipe it is about to force down the throats of our parents. Mr. Collins should think again before getting himself knee-deep into mud. Hamadi. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:49:22 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sal Barry <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Mr. Collins, Would you kindly READ the 2nd to last paragraph of your response to Mr. Mballow. Talk about good command of the english language. Next time Use the spell check tools. >From: Saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Fwd: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:42:39 -0500 > >This morning i posted my comments to the gambia-l and copied to Mr..Collins >and below is what he has replied to me.His reply totally demonstrates what >type of a lunatic he is and trying to hide some thing. > >Saihou > > >>From: Alan D Collins <[log in to unmask]> >>To: Saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]> >>CC: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO >>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:29:28 +0000 >> >>Gentlemen, >> >>The creatures are emerging from the slime of political activism. >> >>The more the better. >> >>I owe no-one an apology for investing in The Gambia and attempting to >>make matters better for its people. >> >>You people are the ones that owe apologies and should bow to the >>Almighty in supplication with cries of repentance. >> >>If Mr Ceesay is a journalist, a fact that I doubt very much because his >>spelling is so atrocious, then he should recognize the difference >>between journalism and libel. Clearly, he does not. >> >>Why is there a need to investigate an investor? Why is there a need to >>investigate a Company that has already paid Gambian farmers D 10 >>million, and will eventually pay them over D 100 million for their >>peanuts? Why is there a need to investigate a Company no matter how >>'funny' that has to date invested almost US$ 3 million in plant, >>equipment, machinery, rennovation and refurbishment at Dentoin Bridge? >> >>Instead of investigating, behind 'funny' HOTMAIL addresses, you should >>show yourselves and again thank the Almighty for a Company that is >>investing in The Gambia to its benefit. >> >>Again, you commit libel. Hilo has NO contract whatsoever with The >>Government of The Gambia. As such we are taking an enormous risk, but >>unlike yourselves, we are prepared so to do. >> >>What are you and your ilk risking? You are even afraid of the light of >>the day as you shirk in the shadows. >> >>My behaviour is admirable in comparison to you political activists. Hilo >>will do more for The Gambia than you people ever will. >> >>I respect ALL opinions that are worthy of respect. Yours are unworthy, >>conducted as they are from the depths. >> >>I amy not be born Gambian, but I have travelled the length and breadth >>of this country and I will try to do more for your people than you would >>ever consider possible. >> >>But, we begin a dialogue. That is good. Perhaps you can yet be persuaded >>that you are wrong; perhaps not. In any event, be assured that you do >>not fight a 'noble' fight. There is nothing noble in your lies and >>libel. Nobility is beyond you. Or, can you prove me wrong? >> >>Sincerely, >> >>Alan D Collins > >_____________________________________________________________________________________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:13:29 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ceesay Soffie <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Point of correction - palms are greased and pockets lined, the latter being what I meant to say. This Foreign language, Collins of HiLo ....... Soffie -----Original Message----- From: Ceesay Soffie [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 12:41 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO > >Why is there a need to investigate an investor? Why is there a need to > >investigate a Company that has already paid Gambian farmers D 10 > >million, and will eventually pay them over D 100 million for their > >peanuts? Why is there a need to investigate a Company no matter how > >'funny' that has to date invested almost US$ 3 million in plant, > >equipment, machinery, rennovation and refurbishment at Dentoin Bridge? * > "Being responsible sometimes means pissing people off." HI and now LO Collins seems to have been royally pissed off by our honest interest in ensuring that our farmers are not, again, buffaloed by Yaya and his parade of companies-come-to-save-our-economy, to threaten us. I take it that you and your company did not investigate or do a feasibility study on the Gambia before "investing" in our country? Or, were you guaranteed ease of market entry and monopoly by those not averse to having their pockets greased? Given the groundnut buying fiasco of the past, any six year old just learning about needs, wants, and responsibility understands the prudence of investigating an "investor". I think your company and any company for that matter, with "good intentions", has been served notice that we won't engage in a wait and see game when by the time we have gathered enough facts, it is too late. An evolving population cannot afford to be complacent and we will remain passionate, responsible, vigilant, and combative for Gambia, nothing against you, if you can understand it. Soffie Ceesay ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:13:50 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sal Barry <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Sal Barry <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 12:49:22 -0500 > >Mr. Collins, > >Would you kindly READ the 2nd to last paragraph of your response to Mr. >Mballow. Talk about good command of the english language. Next time Use the >spell check tools. > > > > >>From: Saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Fwd: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO >>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:42:39 -0500 >> >>This morning i posted my comments to the gambia-l and copied to >>Mr..Collins >>and below is what he has replied to me.His reply totally demonstrates what >>type of a lunatic he is and trying to hide some thing. >> >>Saihou >> >> >>>From: Alan D Collins <[log in to unmask]> >>>To: Saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]> >>>CC: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: A Second e-mail from HILO >>>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:29:28 +0000 >>> >>>Gentlemen, >>> >>>The creatures are emerging from the slime of political activism. >>> >>>The more the better. >>> >>>I owe no-one an apology for investing in The Gambia and attempting to >>>make matters better for its people. >>> >>>You people are the ones that owe apologies and should bow to the >>>Almighty in supplication with cries of repentance. >>> >>>If Mr Ceesay is a journalist, a fact that I doubt very much because his >>>spelling is so atrocious, then he should recognize the difference >>>between journalism and libel. Clearly, he does not. >>> >>>Why is there a need to investigate an investor? Why is there a need to >>>investigate a Company that has already paid Gambian farmers D 10 >>>million, and will eventually pay them over D 100 million for their >>>peanuts? Why is there a need to investigate a Company no matter how >>>'funny' that has to date invested almost US$ 3 million in plant, >>>equipment, machinery, rennovation and refurbishment at Dentoin Bridge? >>> >>>Instead of investigating, behind 'funny' HOTMAIL addresses, you should >>>show yourselves and again thank the Almighty for a Company that is >>>investing in The Gambia to its benefit. >>> >>>Again, you commit libel. Hilo has NO contract whatsoever with The >>>Government of The Gambia. As such we are taking an enormous risk, but >>>unlike yourselves, we are prepared so to do. >>> >>>What are you and your ilk risking? You are even afraid of the light of >>>the day as you shirk in the shadows. >>> >>>My behaviour is admirable in comparison to you political activists. Hilo >>>will do more for The Gambia than you people ever will. >>> >>>I respect ALL opinions that are worthy of respect. Yours are unworthy, >>>conducted as they are from the depths. >>> >>>I amy not be born Gambian, but I have travelled the length and breadth >>>of this country and I will try to do more for your people than you would >>>ever consider possible. >>> >>>But, we begin a dialogue. That is good. Perhaps you can yet be persuaded >>>that you are wrong; perhaps not. In any event, be assured that you do >>>not fight a 'noble' fight. There is nothing noble in your lies and >>>libel. Nobility is beyond you. Or, can you prove me wrong? >>> >>>Sincerely, >>> >>>Alan D Collins >> >>_____________________________________________________________________________________ >>Get more from the Web. 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If for some reason you cannot see the attachment to this e-mail, try visiting the website. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:44:10 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: quarsan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Collins Brokerage company INFO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sal - when you find mr collins's boss, or CEO, may i suggest you forward all of his emails reproduced on the list and simply ask if the racial and other opinions within are in keeping with company policy? i didn't get the info on your last emails. quarsan www.quarsan.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 14:13:28 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sal Barry <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Collins Brokerage company INFO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Quarsan, Visit www.sos.state.ga.us/ click on " Corporation" Then search for ( The Collins Brokerage Company, LLC) Company Tax ID is 582-250-242 Mr. Collins is the president or CEO of this firm. >From: quarsan <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Collins Brokerage company INFO >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:44:10 -0000 > >sal - when you find mr collins's boss, or CEO, may i suggest you forward >all >of his emails reproduced on the list and simply ask if the racial and other >opinions within are in keeping with company policy? >i didn't get the info on your last emails. >quarsan >www.quarsan.net > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:00:15 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO Company (Gambia) Ltd (Amended version) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gambia-L: The unedited e-mail below came from a source in the heart of the Gambian Government. Alan Collins: Like Kebba Dampha once said on the L, I also do take Gambia-L seriously and, as such, I do always spell check my postings and at times, even go as far as checking the meaning of certain words in the Dictionary. The reason why you do find, at times, typographical errors or spelling mistakes in some of my sources' e-mails is because most of time, their e-mails to me, are sent or written in a hurry. And I am sure the Gambia-L readers would understand. In the past, I would edit the e-mails from my sources , but unfortunately, nowadays time does not permit me to do so! This is why I make it loud and clear in my postings, that my sources' e-mails are being sent to Gambia-L (by me) unedited. In fact, there were instances, in the past, when I would do a postscript to my sources' e-mails, telling the Gambia-L readers that they should just IGNORE the spelling mistakes or typographical errors in my sources' e-mails. So, Mr Collins, I hope this explanation will help you. Ebrima Ceesay _______________________________________________________________________ >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: HILO Company (Gambia) Ltd (Amended version) >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 > >Ebrima, >Use this one which has been slightly amended. Thanks. I tried calling but >I keep getting the message box. Later >___________________________________________________________________ > >Ebrima, > >I cannot help but respond to additional points raised by Mr. Alan D. >Collins, Managing Director, HILO Trading (Gambia) Ltd. in his message to >you. > >Firstly, Collins' claim that the the recent "agreement"(his quotes, not >mine) "reached between the parties represents a significant profit for >Alimenta, far, far more than they ever achieved during their operations >within The Gambia " is utter nonsense. The "agreement" entails the 'out of >arbitration' settlement I referred to earlier which amounts to approx. $12 >million is for damages caused to illegally seizing the property that >rightfully and legally belongs to Alimenta. It has nothing to do with >profits for Alimenta. How can you realise profit when your assets have been >illegally seized and the company cease to operate. Again, it is Baba Jobe, >Yahya Jammeh and the countless number of Attorney Generals that have >brought us this mess which is now being taken advantage of by these >unscrupulous wheeler-dealers. Mr. Collins, please do not continue to insult >our intelligence. The agreement has nothing to do will operational >activities but rather Government being required to pay for damages for >illegally seizing the assets of Alimenta. > >Secondly, why is it so hard for you, Mr. Collins to simply state the name >of the parent Company? what do you mean by "as an offshoot from its >American Company? Is it the one that is headquartered in Roswell, Ga. >which registered a total sale of $10,062,938 and a net worth of $127,250? >Ebrima, you see I was generous in my estimation of the net worth of the >company when I placed the figure at $130,000. > >Thirdly, your claim the " EU in reality...is truly trying to monopolise The >Gambia, as it insidiously spreads its tentacles here and over an >increasingly large slice of the globe" is completely out of place and you >owe the EU an apology. The geopolitical strategy of the European Union is >not what is at issue here. It is however interesting that this statement >is coming from you - a British-American. It is also interesting from the >stand point that the sentiments you expressed are exactly the same as those >coming from the Jammeh regime concerning the EU operations in The Gambia. >So if members of the L suggest that you are a mouth piece for the murderous >Jammeh regime, there is credibility to such a claim because neither a >responsible and respectable British nor an American would utter such a >statement about a political entity that both the US and Britain have vested >interest. It shows folks the caliber of an individual we are dealing with >here. > >Fourthly, you claim that HILO TRADING INC. USA is a US$23 million a year >merchant company, formed in 1993. Again, the same question as those above. >Is Hilo Trading Inc, USA headquartered in Roswell, GA.? A simple 'yes' or >'no' answer would do. > >Fifthly, you are entitled to your views as regards the Jammeh regime but >when you claim that the problems of the groundnut sub sector is no fault of >Government, then I respectfully refer you to the IMF and World Bank web >sites, look under The Gambia and read for yourself. May I ask your >educational background, qualification etc. if I may. By the way, you were >not the one being referred to as the Software Engineer and there is >certainly nothing derogatory about the profession. Go back and read the >message carefully, it referred to Software Engineer working for an Airline >company. If the shoe fits, then please be my guest. > >Finally, nobody spoke of communism. Where do you come from, Mars? What we >have been insisting all along has been a free, fair and open competition >FULL STOP. There is no transparent mechanism within Government that can >guarantee equal treatment under a set of procurement rules. HILO came in >through the back door, and through the back door you shall return whence >you came. Why are you afraid of competition? It beat the daylights out of >me reading such gutter language from an American-British CEO who claims to >enjoy both American and British resources and protection. There are >Gambian-Americans on this list, Mr. Collins. There are Gambian-British on >this List, Mr Collins. There are Gambian-Norwegians on this List, not to >speak of the other Scandinavian countries, Mr. Collins. There are >Gambian-Gambians on this List, Mr. Collins. We are the least impress with >your dual nationality. In fact, it is insulting to all Gambians being >branded as illegal aliens. As it has been amply demonstrated by the number >of Gambians who have responded thus far to your allegations, insinuations >and outright RACIST remarks about the legal status of Gambians abroad. Have >a good day, Mr Managing Director and looking forward to some straight >forward answers to my questions. > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Ebrima Ceesay _________________________________________________________________ >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: HILO Company : Will The Real Alan D. Collins Please Stand Up >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 > >Ebrima, > >No sooner did I send my last message that Astrid came with yet another part >of the zig-saw puzzle that we are putting together before the eyes of the >entire Gambian population and the US authorities. > >Mr. Collins, I would like to ask you yet some further questions if I may: > 1.Are you the same Mr. Alan D. Collins who is President of COLLINS >BROKERAGE COMPANY,LLC of 4640 Valais Court with its Headquarters in >Alpharetta, Georgia? > 2.Is HILO TRADING INC. USA the $23 million a year merchant company also >Headquartered in Alpharetta, GA. or in Roswell, GA. > 3.Who is Mr. Iain Prentice who lists himself as President of a >single-employee firm, presumably the phantom Mr. Prentice, himself. > 4. Are you associated with any other firm that is registered in the >State of Delaware. KB, I hope you are on this case down that the Delaware >end. > >Ebrima, I would like to thank all those who have been contributing to this >noble cause and I urge all to continue collecting information on this HILO >Company, HILO Trading Company,USA, Collins Brokerage Company, LLC, HILO >Company. They are a funny bunch of characters if you ask me. > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:28:08 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Please forward Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gambia-L: The e-mail below came from a concerned Gambian. Just a point of clarification for the person who wrote the e-mail below: My brother, your comments are very much appreciated/noted. You see, when I said that Mr Collins should find out who is Ebrima Ceesay, it was never an attempt at boasting. I only meant to say that if he thought I was a coward, then he was dealing with the wrong person. Of course, with the benefit of hindsight, one could always do or say things better/differently. Thanks once again, for the comments. Regards, Ebrima Ceesay >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Please forward >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:30:27 -0800 (PST) > >Ebrima, > >Could you pease forward this to the L. Please feel >free to edit (especially section relating to you as it >is really only meant for you). > >Thanks. > >Dear members of Gambia_L, > >Most probably unbeknownst to you there are many >Gambians and Non-Gambians out there like me that are >avid readers of the L and share the sentiments of most >of you. Unfortunately, some of us due to work or >other circumstances are unable to contribute to the >forum using our real name as indicated by the name >under which this email is being sent. > >It is still a shame that individuals are still coming >to our countries claiming to help us and in the same >breath have the cheek to make comments like (and to >quote Mr. Collins) "Your spelling overall, by the way >is thoroughly appalling…….Perhaps the INS might also >be interested in your paperwork? I do so hope you are >legal aliens?" He has shown that he has no respect >for Gambians and as such should be expelled from The >Gambia. What he does not know is that there are many >Gambians with British and American citizenship (yeah >big deal) who are out there teaching British and >American people how to spell (how many British still >spell was as "woz"). Since when did poor spelling >become a crime? Quite frankly, comments and attitudes >like this should not sway us, as they are mere >reflections of the shallow mind and ignorance of those >who utter them. Isn't it funny that Africans/blacks >are called immigrants or aliens in this when they go >to settle in Europe or America, yet when they come to >settle in Africa they are settlers. > > >Our leaders have no compassion and are so stewed in >greed that they have completely lost all feelings for >humanity. Unfortunately, there are many more "would >be's" out there propping them up. We in Africa are >plagued with so many problems as a result of poverty >(created by our leaders) and we have idiots (I cannot >bring myself to call him President) like Jammeh saying >that he is so wealthy……… Deep down I am quite sure >that Jammeh is one of the unhappiest individuals on >earth, but what he does not know is that this is just >the beginning. You guys have guts. Each and every one >of you has proven that there are still people out >there who have PRINCIPLES and are not willing to sell >their souls for MONEY and POWER. > >Ebrima, keep up the good work. We need more >journalists like you out there and believe me your >work is already being recognised, you are having an >impact. One such evidence is the attacks you have been >receiving and no doubt will continue receiving. A word >of advice though, which I really hope you take it in >good faith. You do not have to let anyone know who >you are. Your work speaks for itself. I would >therefore urge you to desist from using words like >"well, you better do your home work about who Ebrima >Ceesay is". I for one read a slight touch of >arrogance in comments like that, which does not do you >any justice at all as I am sure you are indeed a >humble person. > >Let me end by assuring you all that I will continue to >make sure that everyone that I come into contact with >knows about Gambia_L, be they Gambians or non-Gambias, >black or white, etc. > >I wish I could give all of you the award that you >rightly deserve, but I hope you will settle for a tap >on the back. > >There is a God and he is indeed with us. > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. >http://shopping.yahoo.com/ _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. 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Elliott. The rest speaks for itself. Enjoy your day. Abdoulie A. Jallow Toll-free number: 1-888-392-4832(Excite2) Personal extension for v/mail/fax: 291-368-1519 _______________________________________________________ Tired of slow Internet? Get @Home Broadband Internet http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:48:57 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gos, The author of the national anthem is nobody but commissioner Howe a British National. This was confirmed just a week or two in the Observer by Dr . Florence Mahoney. Chi Jamma joey goswell wrote: > Essa > > You will be surprised to know that the author of the National Anthem was a > Gambian. I was once told that the late Rev J.C Faye was the author but this > has to be verified. Perhaps you could contact Alhagji Cham Joof or the likes > of Prince O`brien Coker and Sidi Sanneh for clarification. > > It is a pity that you haven`t realised that "God" means Allah in Arabic.The > word "God"must have been used on the basis that it was written and always > sang in English. > The lyrics of our national anthem has shown no sign of embracing any > religious faith. Instead, it sounds universal and the question as to whether > it has a christian value is out of the question. > > I would have agreed with you if the national anthem had mentioned the word > "lord" or Holy Spirit. > > On that note we look forward for clarification as to who the actual author > was. > > >From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > ><[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. > >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:05:30 -0000 > > > >Sister Jamila, > > > >With the same respects, I comment on your reply as ff: > > > >I am not talking about Spirituality, morality, or culture for that matter. > >This is about religion. You may be right about their existence, long > >before > >religion, but why did religion come about? We must have been steering > >off-course. > > > >The national anthem is preceded by slavery and colonialisation. I brought > >it up because I am sure not many of us knew who wrote it. I only hope it > >was someone Gambian. That composer is non-grata to this day. The national > >anthem is not part of the past you dwelling on. My guess is that it was > >non-existent prior to Feb '65 or April '70. So why not rewrite it? It is > >a > >nice piece, but the author is unknown. If we feed off it, I can only say > >we > >are headed in an unknown direction. What are your thoughts? > > > >Regards > >Essa > > > > > > > >>From: Jamila Allston <[log in to unmask]> > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > >><[log in to unmask]> > >>To: [log in to unmask] > >>Subject: Re: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. > >>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:37:05 -0800 > >> > >>Brother Wole, > >> > >> With all due respect in this holy time of Ramadan, I must ask why do > >>we continue to deny who we are/were before the bringing about of Islam > >>and Christanity throughout Africa. Why does it always come down to a > >>war between Islam and Christanity? Didn't we as Africans have a > >>wonderful sense of Spirtutaliy, Morality and Cultural before the advent > >>of either religions? Why must we as Africans always have to deny our > >>African roots, culture and customs? What is so wrong with embracing > >>our African past and it's spirituality? And in our many African > >>societies, it was understood that we were embracing a universal > >>creator, regardless of the name that each group called him. > >> > >> These questions are asked with respect and sincerity. In fact, my > >>sons are Muslims and one is fasting for Ramadan. Yet as an African > >>born in America and brutality stripped of my African past via the > >>horrific slave trade (reprentative of millions of us), the question > >>becomes one of why bother trying to embrace my African past if these > >>are my only two alternatives; alternatives that also require the denial > >>of who we are/were as Africans prior to the acceptance of these > >>alternatives as the "correct" and "only" way of life. > >> > >> Peace > >> > >> Jamila > >> > >>________________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> > >>--- Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > Whether motivated by greed, ethnicity, or simply, a lust for power, > >> > the > >> > quest for dominance is always prevalent in Africa, and the West > >> > alike. > >> > Surely, we're yet to be blessed with a true leader who understands > >> > the true > >> > meaning of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. > >> > > >> > Who can honestly claim that this cyber forum is "fruitful", and bears > >> > genuine results. Personally, I don't see the need to have 3,4,5,6, - > >> > infinite organisations all fighting for the same purpose. If one > >> > truly > >> > wants to be part of this change, one must consider going back home > >> > and have > >> > one's vote counted (I don't need to hear about ballot politics, for > >> > all I > >> > know, that's option #1). As citizens of The Gambia, let's be > >> > reminded once > >> > more to uphold the TRUE meaning of our national anthem, ..."Let > >> > JUSTICE > >> > guide our actions, towards the common good." Cyberchatting won't > >> > solve our > >> > problems. Instead, it spreads the rumours. As much as we recite our > >> > national anthem, has anyone ever stopped to think about who wrote it. > >> > Obviously, that person must have thought we are a Christian country. > >> > If I > >> > had to edit it, I would probably rewrite the whole script. One word > >> > I would > >> > definitely change is, " GOD to ALLAH." > >> > > >> > Happy Ramadan to EVERYONE! ... > >> > > >> > Essa > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >From: "MOVEMENT FOR THE RESTORATION OF DEMOCRACY IN THE GAMBIA (UK)" > >> > > <[log in to unmask]> > >> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > >> > ><[log in to unmask]> > >> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >> > >Subject: OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE CHAIR. > >> > >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:39:13 -0000 > >> > > > >> > ><< Chairman_sofficialstatement(MRDGUK).doc >> > >> > > >> > > >>_____________________________________________________________________________________ > >> > Get more from the Web. 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FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:52:43 +0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sidi, I will extend your message to Nana. Our Condolence to Pap John and Anty Anna, Lucy ,Nick Williams, Lucy , Aki Allen and the rest of extended family. Chi Jamma, Bro Sheikh. Sidi M Sanneh wrote: > Bro Sheikh, > > I would like you to do me a favour and extend my condolences personally to > Nana Grey-Johnson on the passing away of Father Williams. Father Williams > was a well known figure within and outside the Anglican community. For those > who knew him well, he had a great sense of humour. I extend my condolences > to Pap John Williams, Anna Williams and the rest of the family. May his > soul rest in perfect peace. > > Sidi Sanneh > > >From: Sheikh Tejan Nyang <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > ><[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENT > >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 22:39:55 +0000 > > > >The Anglican church and the William's family regret to announce the > >death of Father William's which sad event occurred this morning. Father > >William's returned home some years back from England after his > >retirement from active service. Our condolence to the entire family. May > >his soul rest in peace. > > > >Chi Jamma, > >Bro Sheikh Tejan > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >You may also send subscription requests to > >[log in to unmask] > >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your > >full name and e-mail address. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:26:32 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: saul khan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Gen. Ansumana Mane shot Dead! ... BBC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Another sad lesson in how to self-destruct. Whoever said we learn from history... Government troops in Guinea-Bissau are reported to have shot and killed the fugitive coup leader, General Ansumane Mane, in a gun battle north-west of the capital. Portuguese state television, RTP, showed footage of what it said was the body of the former army general, who defied the government earlier this month by declaring himself head of the armed forces. Eight of General Mane's followers are reported to have been killed. Reporting from the capital Bissau, a Portuguese TV correspondent said General Mane was shot in the neck in a clash with loyalist troops near the town of Quinhamel, 30km (20 miles) north of the city. General Mane had fled the capital with a few followers a week ago after his abortive attempt at a military revolt in the former Portuguese colony. Many of his followers deserted when government forces attacked them at an airbase north of Bissau. The TV correspondent said the latest clash was triggered by the capture of General Mane's security officer, who was brought to Bissau on Thursday. "Then the manhunt that had been going on since last week was stepped up in the area of Quinhamel, where it turns out he had been all this time." The correspondent said General Mane and his entourage, including some officers, were surrounded by an army unit about 50-strong. "There was shooting for about two minutes, and then silence. The operation was over," he added. "Ten minutes later they brought out Ansumane Mane's body... to the great jubilation of the local people, who, like former President Nino Vieira are members of the Pepel ethnic group." General Mane himself belonged to the Mandinga Muslim tribe. "As far as I know Mane made no attempt to surrender. He died in action," the correspondent said. General Mane unilaterally declared himself head of the armed forces when President Kumba Yala announced a number of senior military appointments of which Mr Mane disapproved. General Mane maintained that the appointments were ethnically based and risked destabilising the country. More than 200 people, including politicians and members of parliament, were arrested after the fighting between government troops and those loyal to General Mane. _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:29:01 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Malang <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ansumane Mane shot dead > back to headlines Bissau rebel chief shot dead - Portuguese TV LISBON (Reuters) - Former military junta chief Ansumane Mane, who tried to lead an uprising against the elected Guinea-Bissau government, has been shot dead, Portuguese state television RTP reported on Thursday. RTP showed footage of the body of the former army general, who defied the government of the tiny west African state earlier this month by declaring himself head of the armed forces. He was shot in the neck in a clash with loyalist troops near the town of Quinhamel, 30 km (20 miles) north of Bissau, capital of the former Portuguese colony, television said. No further details of the circumstances of his death were immediately available. Mane had escaped from the capital with a few followers a week ago after his attempt at a military revolt was thwarted when the bulk of the Guinea-Bissau armed forces sided with the government in a dispute over promotions. Since then, troops had scoured the impoverished Atlantic seaboard state looking for the man who a year ago lead a successful coup against former President Joao Bernardo Vieira. The government of President Kumba Yalla has rounded up a number of officials from opposition parties, accusing them of conspiring with Mane. It had said that Mane, born in neighbouring Gambia, would not be harmed if captured. The Military Junta effectively ran the country from Vieira's overthrow until Yalla took office after elections early this year. But although the junta was supposed to have been dissolved, Mane continued to refer to himself as "co-president" of the country. Tensions between Mane and Yalla came to a head after the government ignored his advice on military promotions and Mane sought to replace the country's official military commander Verissimo Seabra, a former Junta ally. Thousands of Bissau residents fled the city fearing a resumption of the intermittent year-long civil war that preceded Vieira's overthrow. > back to top ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:28:19 -0500 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Jeng, Beran" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source My Brother, To add to what you've said,we are Gambians and have the right to be concern and participate in the affairs of our country . We don't have to be in The Gambia to be active in Gambian affairs.Being away and contributing to the affairs of our country does not necessarily make us a coward instead, it indicates our conviction and patriotism to our motherland and no like of Mr. Collins with his threats and insults will deprive us from our right to be concern about the welfare of our people. Ebrima and source keep up the good work. Beran -----Original Message----- From: Yahya Darboe [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 10:51 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source Mboge, you stated my sentiments well. If Mr. Collins believes in the legitimacy of his company he can give us more information about it rather than just saying we are a subsidiary of so and so company in USA. Give us some facts so that anyone who wants to find out the truth could do so easily. For example, what is the contact information of the US parent company? Let me remind Mr. Collins that he is not in The Gambia to help Gambians but to reap profits to be made from the peanut trade if him and his company are truly dealing in this commodity. The other issue that I am disappointed in is the threatening nature of Mr. Collins' statements. What about the BLACKMAILING? This is pathetic. He better know that his blackmailing will not work with members of this list. At least we live in a country were the rule of law is upheld by the authorities unlike Yahya Jammeh's government that he thinks is a great one. MR. COLLINS, I think most people if not all on this list know what is best for Gambia far better than you. As for what we do for Gambia, you are not qualified to ask that question and you don't deserve an answer to that. YND ---- Begin Original Message ---- From: momodou olly-mboge <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:57:01 -0500 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source Hi Ebrima, Keep it up. History shall bear withness to the truth. Your relentless struggle for a better Gambia shall be rewarded. Freedom shall be ours. THE REAL CHARLATAN IS MR COLLINS. The ranting and raving of this so-called Alan D. Collins is nothing but puffing of hot air. He is trying to placate our minds by blowing his own trumpet. The guy and his friends are exposed and now they are resorting to intimidation with legal action. But Mr Collins should not underestimate the dedication of the new generation of Gambians who wants a better future for their country. His accusation of the opposition of wanting to remove a democratically elected government shows a lack of knowledge of the Gambian situation or a deliberate attempt to trivialize it. He should be reminded that both Britain and the USA of which he claims citizenship see Yahya and the APRC as rogues and murderers. No wonder the Clinton administration stopped all direct aid to the Gambia since this moron with an eliorated mind came to power. Can MR Collins tell us what is democratic about an uncouth moron who usurp power with the gun? Maybe Collins democratic standards are from another world. Collins should also tell us what is good about a government who had ordered the killings of school children, abduction of its citizens and burning down independent radio stations, the denial of meetings of its opposition, amending of parts of the constitution which are 'inimical' to the interest of the APRC etc. Collins and his kind are the type of foreign investors we do not need in Africa. His type helped people like Mobutu to ruin the continent. WE WILL NEVER AGAIN ACCEPT SUCH KIND OF PEOPLE IN OUR MIDST. WE SHALL CHASE THEM OUT. Mr Collins do not know what he is talking about. Just because Gambians ask some questions about his 'business' warrants him to label us communist. This is really a laughable assumption. And Finally MR Collins should be reminded that English is not our language, as long as we are understood, we care less. Gambia deserves better. Let him take whatever legal action he dsires, we shall defend ourselves vigorously. I for one resides in London, UK and he can do whatever he wants about it. Ebrima, you and your sources are doing a marvelous job. Keep it up. Regards, Mboge >From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source >Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:25:28 -0000 > >Gambia-L: > >The unedited e-mail below came from the managing director of HILO in the >Gambia, Alan D Collins. He is reacting to my source's e-mail about his >bogus >company. The attachment came with a short covering letter in which he was >threatening me. I will be sending the covering letter separately later on. > >Alan Collins: I think you are a real joker! Do you think you can threaten >me? Well, you better do your home work about who Ebrima Ceesay is? Anyway, >if time permits me, I'll give you a fitting response. > >Ebrima Ceesay >Birmingham, UK > >_____________________________________________________________________ ___ > > > > >Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd > >TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN > >November 27, 2000 > >I am in receipt of an e-mail sent from Gambia-L dated November 23rd 2000. > >Clearly, you hide behind a veil of anonymity. We do not. Cowards afraid of >the truth hide in fear of being found out. Those of us who are trying to do >things correctly are unafraid and can issue a statement from a known >location, as we are now doing. > >Whoever wrote the e-mail is evidently completely unaware of the true state >of affairs. In addition, the e-mail is not only scurrilous but, more >seriously, libellous. > >The Gambian Government is not hoodwinking anyone. The recent ‘agreement’ >reached between the parties represents a significant profit for Alimenta, >far, far more than they ever achieved during their operations within The >Gambia. It is you, and your ilk, that are attempting to hoodwink the >People, no-one else. Hoodwinking the EU would be unthinkable, for surely it >could not possibly be done? > >I am unaware of any Company being formed to act as a front for His >Excellency Jammeh, leave aside one that buys Groundnuts. I may certainly >state that Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd has been formed – as an offshoot from >its American company – to buy groundnuts from the farmer of The Gambia. As >The President of this company, I inform you that you commit a libel by >printing a lie. I strongly suggest you cease and desist, and retract the >ill-advised statements made to date. > >When I trace your whereabouts, and be assured I will, I shall take >immediate >legal action. Of course, you do not dare to back your statements by openly >confronting me. Again, you prove your cowardice. > >The “raisons d’etre” of Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd are to ensure that the >farmers are paid on time, to make a profit, as a private company is >entitled >so to do, and to recognize, and accept, the necessity for social, economic >and political responsibility. > >The question of a monopoly: (I assume you meant ‘monopoly’ instead of >‘monolopy’?) It is the EU in reality that is truly trying to monopolise The >Gambia, as it insidiously spreads its tentacles here and over an >increasingly large slice of the globe. > >It is you, my cowardly friends, who are being hoodwinked by those you >consider allies. Et tu, Brutus? > >I must agree that the farmers are not fools. They were not fools when they >applauded our plans at Tenda Ba, and they were not fools to accept FACS as >our buying agent for groundnuts. They are further confirmed as not being >fools because they are clever enough to perceive that we, as Hilo Trading, >are fully committed to them. What we have said we will do, we have done. >And, they are certainly not fools because they are receiving immediate >payment at secco level for their peanuts this season. Already we have >disbursed D 10 million to farmers. > >No, my afraid friends, the farmers are not fools and neither will they be >hoodwinked like they have been these past few years – and none of those the >fault of the Government. They are not fools because they will never listen >to the likes of you. Your statements about them are not in the best >interests of the farmers, for should they listen to you, they would surely >suffer, and badly so. > >As to the EU and Alimenta not being fools – I could not possibly comment. > >Once again you commit libel by stating that Hilo Trading is a dummy >company. > >Hilo Trading Inc USA is a US$ 23 million a year merchant company, formed in >1993. > >Our Gambian operation was incorporated in March 2000 with the express >purpose of operating fully from this season onward. > >I am not only a British National, but an American citizen too. Thus I have >both countries resources and protection. Be warned - I know ST >JOHNS.EDU….and I will use my resources to track you down and expose you to >The People Of The Gambia as the troublemakers you are. > >Those of your ‘colleagues’ in Atlanta need not bother to check out the >‘funny’ company of “Hailo” for they shall surely not find it. Perhaps this >e-mail will assist you in your uneducated approaches to the dissident >factor; for, surely, you will now at least have the correct spelling of our >‘funny’ company. Your spelling overall, by the way is thoroughly appalling. > >Your fellow true-countrymen, those that don’t operate in dark and dank and >secret places, will not find HILO being so funny, but, rather quite >serious. >This will be the case when we assist the country, through its farmers, back >to an economic sanity within the Groundnut Sub-Sector by paying farmers for >peanuts delivered on time – with NO CREDIT BUYING. > >I do not object to being called a ‘Software Engineer’, for that is a >privileged and quite honourable position. Why are you so derogatory about >software engineers? It seems you have little good to say about anyone or >anything. I also wonder how I became a software engineer having spent my >past 30 years in the groundnut business. I must sleep less than I think, or >study in my REM sleep. > >The nonsense that you write is clearly indicative that perhaps you are >still >at pre-school, kindergarten perhaps? Surely, a grown adult with any degree >of education would shy away from writing such adolescent rubbish? And yet, >e-mailing illegally from StJohns.Edu would indicate otherwise, which I find >enormously interesting as I begin to track down who you are. > >Hilo Trading Gambia has invested almost US$ 3 million this year in The >Gambia. Do you still consider us to be a ‘funny’ company? What has anyone >else invested? What have you and your band of troublemakers invested or >contributed for your country? I’ll wager absolutely nothing, of course. If >not for Hilo and this Government, this season would have been a non- starter >as well. The Government is strapped because of being hoodwinked by last >season’s operators who still owe millions and millions and millions of >Dalasis to them and others. The good deed, last season, of the Govt coming >to the rescue with funds has been paid back by a web of deceit and >cover-ups >committed by those to whom money was given. More evidence of your ‘friends >of The Gambia’. No doubt you exist so as to communicate with them all of >your twisted thoughts. Perhaps they hide in the same slime as you people; >no >doubt you are happy bedfellows. > >We have invested. We have contributed. We are producing. We are helping. We >therefore have a right to priority usage of Denton Bridge for we are the >only ones serious enough to complete the task at hand. What rights do you >have? > >Your writings are the ranting of jealous Gambians who have contributed >nothing, but want everything; of political dissidents scrambling for power >that they cannot possible obtain by fair means, but only by foul; of >ignoramuses, unwilling or incapable of understanding even the most >simplistic truths; of those that prefer chaos to security, of bad times >rather than good times. You seek to wreck, not to build. You wish to >destroy >society, not make it any better. You are the true menace to The People of >The Gambia. > >You are frauds and charlatans because you profess to speak the truth but in >fact you speak not only lies but utter and absolute drivel. The dog barking >in the street, the cat meowing at night, or the bray of cattle at dawn all >contain more truth than you could ever hope to muster by writing 10,000 >e-mails. > >As I, personally, neither Hilo Trading Gambia Ltd, have ever ‘stolen’ from >The Gambian population, your accusations, of being ‘shameless crooks’ by >deduction, must surely therefore be libellous to the EU and Alimenta. I >suspect they will be none too happy with you in this regard. > >We will not be stopped in our attempt to rectify the appalling problems >created these past few years, through no fault of Government. There IS a >trade season in progress, with farmers receiving money, and money only from >Hilo Trading. We shall commence shelling within a matter of days and >exports >a few days thereafter. This Government is more than competent; however it >is >not Government’s role to run private businesses. I remind you, again, for >the dim-witted need reminding often – without the Govt intervening with >funds this past trade season it would have been an even greater disaster. > >The insistence, of some, that buying operations be free, open and >competitive is admirable. Theory is such a wonderful thing. Communism was >once thought admirable. Your mumbo-jumbo is theory because you would never >have the sense to put in place what you preach because you could not >operate >power in an effective democracy. But, in reality, yours, and it, is the >diatribe of the economically insane. A business needs to be managed >properly >and not in a socialistic ‘Alice In Wonderland’. Imagine Coca-Cola allowing >others access to its trade patents, its productions and its marketing >channels and so forth. Look what happened last season – 3 non- professional, >not so ‘funny’ companies combined into one gigantic imbroglio and landed >the >country in to a depressingly stupid and hopeless situation. They could not >have done a worse job if they had tried, and, yet, these are the very >people >you support as you attempt to destabilize a freely elected Government and >the very people of The Gambia and its many venerable institutions. > >As far as funds being released by donors to Alimenta – more verbal >diarrhoea >indeed. An agreement has been reached and that is the end of that. > >As to the start of the Trade Season, your reasoning is once again far from >sound. Your reasoning shows a fundamental disregard for the search of truth >and is bereft of logic. The simple reasons for any ‘delays’ were two- fold: >firstly, the farmers informed us, at Tenda Ba, that they were simply not >ready to harvest and secondly, Government has sensibly been awaiting the >announcement of a Senegalese price. > >The season has now been announced, as it was no longer possible to await >the >price from Senegal. Senegal appears so disorganised and most probably will >not start purchasing from their farmers until January 2001 at the earliest. >Perhaps your spleen is better vented at them, my frightened friends. For >The >Gambia has a ‘jump-start’ by announcing an early Trade Season, much to the >credit of this current administration. > >Well, in closing, just a further thought. > >Do you know it is illegal to send private e-mails over a university system >server? It is also illegal to send political propaganda in the same manner. >We shall contact the University’s website and we shall inform the >University >of your little games. We shall indeed contact our lawyers in the USA for >legal action. Perhaps the INS might also be interested in your paperwork? I >do so hope you are legal aliens? > >Perhaps you may find life a little unpleasant from now on and you may not >be >able to continue to use the same methods to send your spiteful, hateful and >unequivocally incompetent and untruthful mails. > >Yours very truly, > >Alan D Collins President, Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd > >_____________________________________________________________________ ________________ >Get more from the Web. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Gambia-L: One of my impeccable sources in the Gambia has called me a shortwhile ago, requesting me to thank, on his behalf, Bamba Laye, Kebba Dampha, Jabou, Ous Ngum and the rest of the crew, for a job well done vis-a-vis the HILO Company. My source has also informed me that we should expect more revelations on the corrupt activities of Mr Jammeh and his despotic regime as we head towards the New Year. By the way, can someone help me here: I used to have a very good sister called Ndey Jobarteh? The last time I heard of her, she was in Oslo. Can someone tell me - may be Kabir - whether this Ndey Jobarteh is still on the L, or has she simply left her brother? (laugh) Regards, Ebrima _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:39:43 -0600 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Mr Makaveli <[log in to unmask]> Subject: The Man Behind The Peanut Shell:Hilo's Alan D Collins Folks , I don't know where to begin with this unscrupulous character. One thing I know for sure is that he is the 'real' Alan D Collins. However, finding his 'funny' companies such as Hilo is as mysterious as deciphering that D in his middlename. But I was relentless,and I launched into my excavations into this 'Alice In Wonderland' peanut broker/dealer. And here is what I dug up from my little consumer investigation. First thing I did is contact SGL INTERNATIONAL LLC P.O.Box 20124, Atlanta, GA 30358-2124 at 404-252-6887. I spoke with a gentleman by the name of Curt Johnston.. Now if you follow this link : http://www1.surfsouth.com/~apnut/page8.html titled BROKERS & DEALERS, scroll down a little and to your right you shall see Mr Curt Johnston, his title Traffic/Logistics. Just above Mr Johnston is our real mcCoy, the demented Sir Alan D. Collins. Note his title : Vice President. Ping! uh-huh! Anyways,I introduced myself to Mr Johnston as a prominent investor in the peanut business, who has to make a decision very soon and that I was scouting the market and that before I throw all my DOUGH on 'funny', companies I think I should get to know a little about the company's background and he knows that was very understandable. He said , " they've been in the business for while blah blah ". The usual, so I interrupted him and ask him if he knows a competitor name Hilo whose president I noticed was their former VP. He replied quickly that, " Mr Alan D Collins was indeed their former vice president." " Mr Collins did not leave their company in good terms." I asked him then if he would recommend Mr Collins company. His answer, " Mr Collins has a reputation of being an unscrupulous businessman and that he does not take good care of his customer. " He add, " Mr Collins can be very convincing and has a way of talking his way out ". In short he means he doesn't recommend him and that they can offer me a better service. Curt also mentioned that Mr Collins left their company 4 years ago and started his own brokerage. I asked Curt if SGL (their company) or Hilo (Collins' company or brokerage I should say), for comparison purposes, are fortune 500/ multi-million companies ,because I am the VP of a multi-million international company? His answer was, " well all of us are small companies and privately owned but he wouldn't disclose any more information . So to me, his answer means 'WERE SIMPLY PETTY TRADERS' trying to make a living in very competitive and risky business. That was the end of my phone conversion with Mr Johnston. I thanked him and moved on to my next phone call. This time it was Stephanie from www.peanutsusa.com. Not an e-mail but a phone conversion. I called 703-838-9500 and asked for Cindy Stickles. She wasn't available so Stephanie was there to help me. I asked her what their company oes and that I was an inquiring peanut investor. She explains that they have registered peanut brokers and dealers and what they do for them is explain on their mission statement, which is on their website: ( http://www.peanutsusa.com/services/mission.html). Fair enough. I then ask her if they are affiliated with a comapny name Hilo whose President is Alan D Collins. She checked their database and her answer was , no sorry he is NOT LISTED. I asked, how about SGL INTERNATIONAL LLC ? She looked, and her answer this time is : they're LISTED with us . In conclusion, she stated that if a peanut company is not listed in their database, and they in the US market, then they should NOT be taken taken seriously.There is also the American Peanut Shellers Association who also register genuine, NOT the 'funny', peanut brokers and dealers. They too do not have Mr Collins' company listed. Keep in mind, all along that Mr Collins told us his company is US based yet none of the Better Business Bureaus know about his existence. So, we know atleast that his company website is not www.peanutsusa.com. Viz: .................................................................. DETAILS ON WWW.PEANUTSUSA.COM (courtesy of networksolutions) **Public Record*** Registrant: National Peanut Council, Inc. (PEANUTSUSA-DOM 1500 King St., Suite 301 Alexandria, VA 22314 US Domain Name: PEANUTSUSA.COM Administrative Contact, Billing Contact: Stickles, Cindy (CS12114 [log in to unmask] National Peanut Council, Inc. 1500 King St., Suite 301 Alexandria , VA 22314 703-838-9500 (FAX) 703-838-9508 Technical Contact: Administrator, DNS Technical (KB336 [log in to unmask] Epoch Networks 555 Anton Boulevard Costa Mesa, CA 92626 714 327-2000 (FAX) 714 327-2187 Record last updated on 12-Sep-2000. Record expires on 13-Sep-2002. Record created on 12-Sep-1996. Database last updated on 30-Nov-2000 06:19:31 EST. Domain servers in listed order: AUTH1.NS.ENI.NET 205.214.45.6 AUTH2.NS.ENI.NET 155.229.2.181 AUTH3.NS.ENI.NET 155.229.126.67 .......................................................................... I found out that the reason some these brokers don't have a website is not because they can't afford it.The reason is they are so full of 'peanuts' and it won't be in their best interest for consumers to know about ther unscrupulous behavior. It appears to me that anyone can really pursue these peanut brokerage licence just as you would go about getting a real estate licence. Have little bit of cash , say $50,000 - $100,000, a business licence, dudge Uncle Sam(IRS), go to a third world country as they called it, juice their government and play hardball. Question is how long are willing to play this game. Now Mr Collins look like he was caught with his pants down. Am afraid if he doesn't take his chill pills, he may suffer from a heart attack or dementia praecox and may not even last long enough to pursue any litigation. In my head, all these bits and pieces are now making a lot of sense. When I read this crook's e-mail addressed to Ebrima Ceesay, I felt what is the big fuss ,running around and ranting like a chicken with it's head cut. If there is no element of truth in Ebrima's story, why would any president of a genuine company reacts in such an infantile manner. It's very obvious that he is out to stop any whistle-blower before his little investment shinks into the waters of the Atlantic Ocean. No wonder his former employer didn't speak well of him. Any ingenious businessman, especially a president of a corporation , will first consult with his legal team and top executives before publicly waging a lost battle with a renown journalist like Ebrima Ceesay. You go boy! These litigated tactics does nothing but add more guilt to accusations made before him. What Ebrima is doing is what any noble Gambian would do if they smell a RAT, and for some us who do not have the ability to see shi* when they smell it ought rally behind Ebrima. One thing that also doesn't add up is a timeline discrepancy. According to Mr Collins, he had been investing in the Gambia with Hilo since 1993, yet when I asked his former employer, they said said he left the company in very bad terms 4 years ago, which would have been 1996. Lots of inconsistencies and variations is what I've been able to pile up from this 'bag of peanuts' character. Did , I also mention that I talked to his secretary here in the US. That's right, I forgot. Her name is Wil Helmina, which she eloquently spelt and carefully noted on my Bic. Anyway here's how the our conversion lays out. I introduced my self, this time as Hector Nunez. I told her I am a mexican peanut investor scouting for a major trade deal and needed to inquire about their company. She said," they are a small privately owned company based in Alpharetta, GA, USA. COLLINS BROKERAGE COMPANY, LLC . Our President is Alan D Collins and he is out of the office. " I asked where he might be and she replied," he is actually out of the country and will be back in couple of weeks". I asked, what exactly they will do if I was interested. She replied , " well Alan buys & sells highest bidders and gurantees profit to his clients but I would have to e-mail Alan who would be in a better position to explain it to me . His e-mail address : [log in to unmask] was here confirmed by his secretary. . I was expecting his e-mail to end with @hilo.com or @hilonuts.com , something to embellish that presidential status he seemed to be affiliated himself with, you know . So I thought this guy is really hiding behind a firewall. When I asked her how big they were , you know fortune 500 or something. She replied," we a very small company. We have only one location worldwide and that is our Georgia location. I then asked her how many people work for the company. Her reply? It's only the 4 of us, uh-huh. Then she sighed, " Ok honey , I got to go now. E-mail Alan and he will be able to assist you further." I wanted to say who are you calling 'honey', but I understood it is a southern hospitality. Man! What a mess! These are the people our government are trusting with our taxpayers money. These people/companies are ghosts for crying out loud sake. The question that is still clouting my reasoning is what exactly is this Alan D Collins DOING for our poor susceptible farmers, and Gambia as a whole. Maybe he can explain it in layman's term and not in 'peanut's term'. And how irresponsible can any government with supposedly educated decision-makers, all that KNOWLEDGE, all that COLLEGE , to allow a petty peanut broker from the South swindle such amount of money. Either Mr Collins is incredibly stupid or incredibly smart to think that we , patriotic Gambians, will be intimadated for simply inquiring what is in our national interest. No amount of intimidation and inducement(checkbook) will prevent us from fighting against injustice, because injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. ................................. 'THE MAN BEHIND THE MASK' COLLINS BROKERAGE COMPANY, LLC 4640 Valais Court Tel: (770) 753-2980 Suite 200 Fax: (770) 753-2985 Alpharetta, GA 30022 E-mail: [log in to unmask] Company Tax ID is 582-250-242 Alan D. Collins, President ...................................... By FOX 5's Randy Travis (o-:)!. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 21:43:35 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Movement for the Restoration of Democracy in Gambia <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: We are talking about EU or Alimenta, Mr. Managing Director MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kudos kebba, Ebrima and the rest of G-Ler's, I hope this misfit- degenerate got the message, that Gambians will never again be taken for a ride, neither to the bank or the graveyard. I hope this will serve as a warning notice to the current overseer's of the government and the next to come. Again, let's keep the heat on Yahya Jahanaba. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:23:26 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Movement for the Restoration of Democracy in Gambia <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Jammeh is immuned [decree #], but Mile 2 is his ultimate destination MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ali Baba [Yahya Jahanaba] and his 40 thieves had been in hibernation, but ar= e=20 slowly being exposed, as the KMC Chairman is. From the [RAG] Observer... ............................................................................= .. ...................................... ONLY JAMMEH IS IMMUNE COURT TELLS LAI CONTEH=20 Justice Gelega King, chairman of the commission of inquiry into the Auditor=20 General=B9s Report, yesterday ruled that only President Yahya Jammeh is immu= ne=20 to appearing before a national court of law, as provided by section 69 of th= e=20 Gambia constitution.=20 Justice King made this ruling against an application filed by Lawyer Amie=20 Joof, ordering the commission on the Auditor General=B9s Report, to discharg= e=20 the chairman of the Kanifing Municipal Council, Abdoulai Conteh, from giving= =20 evidence before the commission. In his ruling, Justice King argued that apart from the President of the=20 Republic, every other person in The Gambia, =B3is amenable to process and ca= n=20 be be subpoenaed to give evidence before a commission. We take judicial=20 notice that the chairman of the Kanifing Municipal Council, Abdoulai Conteh,= =20 is not the President of the Republic of The Gambia. The legal points raised=20 by Miss Amie Joof can best be made after Mr Conteh completes his testimony.=20 We therefore refuse the application of Miss Joof to discharge Mr Abdoulai=20 Conteh, Chairman KMC.=B2 In his evidence before the commission, Abdoulie Faa= l,=20 a revenue collector at the Serrekunda car park, said D438,250 was jointly=20 mismanaged by him, former KMC cashier, Abdoulie Bah, and Bakary Drammeh,=20 former assistant treasurer at KMC, now treasurer at the Brikama Area Council= .=20 He said, the said sum was shared between the three of them. Mr Faal noted=20 that after the report reached authorities at the KMC, he was arrested and=20 detained for seven months by the police.=20 However, he said Abdoulie Bah and Bakary Drammeh were never arrested and the= y=20 did not return their share of the stolen money to the KMC. Mr Faal went on t= o=20 narrate how the three of them defrauded the KMC through bank deposits after=20 which they prepare duplicate bank statements that do not tally with original= =20 depositing documents.=20 He pointed out that when sitting in his office at the Serrekunda car park=20 some days, Mr Bah and Drammeh would call and asked for certain sums of money= =20 which he would give them, sometimes up to D20,000. Mr Faal also claimed that= =20 sometimes he received the least amount when the money is shared among the=20 three.=20 Bakary Drammeh, in his cross-examination, said he had never engaged in such=20= a=20 deal with Mr Faal and that he, Mr Bah and Mr Faal, never shared any amount o= f=20 money. Mr Drammeh said Mr Faal was trying to implicate him. Mr Faal however=20 countered that statement.=20 =A0 =20 =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 22:59:10 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << > We shall indeed contact our lawyers in the USA for > legal action. Perhaps the INS might also be interested in your paperwork? I > do so hope you are legal aliens? > > >> ***************************************** This above statement is designed as a tool to scare Gambians in the U.S and elsewhere from continuing with the exposition of this corrupt regime. It is something that this leach and his cohorts of like mind; think is something that will deter people from telling the World about this unending brutality and exploitation that Gambians are enduring because of this regime. Let me tell you that the allegation that they can call on the INS to deport Gambians is UTTER NONSENSE!!! .What are they going to do? Call on the INS and then escort them to go all around the U.S and hunt for Gambians. That is such a ridiculous cheap threat, only these people can come up with it. Maybe they should try it, and see what ensues. There are thousands of naturalized Gambians and Gambians who are citizens of this country, and who are of the highest standing in their communities across this country. I bet we are much better members of our communities here than this "MD" because if pastures were as green as he alleges, he would not be out in Africa trying to suck the blood of our people. The U.S immigration knows more about who is within these borders than these goof balls. Let us play this fantasy game of their's for a while and just suppose that these people could get Gambians deported. How do they think that will stop the campaign to expose these despicable characters? Let me assure Jammeh and his cronies that whether we have ten Gambians or ten thousand, the same results can be achieved exposing this corrupt regime, and if they were to try to get Gambians deported ( which I emphatically assure you they cannot do) that would just inspire a deeper conviction in the rest to work even harder to expose the thugs that are holding our country hostage. This so-called MD of the dummy corporation is just another one of the leaches from abroad who see the corrupt element in high places on the African continent as a golden opportunity to make a fortune. Equally despicable is the fact that they have always found the likes of Yaya Jammeh and his cohorts to ally with, and together, these "birds of a feather" collaborate to suck the lifeblood out of any country or people who have been unfortunate enough to find themselves under the leadership of the likes of Jammeh. This dispicable man has been caught in the act, and the responses from him are more telling of the callibre of individual he is than anything else. He is just like the people that he is collaborating with, so that together, they can continue to unleash a kind of brutal, and insatiable greed that one never imagined can be possesed by anyone, let alone a Gambian. Ebrima Ceesay, keep up the good work, and just tell your source to do the same. An entire nation is depending on people like him. I hope you are not doing the Ceesay fast.I know you are my brother, but since i do not have access to my Ceesay cousins in Senegal, any Ceesay is fair game. Regards, Jabou Joh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 04:03:25 -0000 Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Man Behind The Peanut Shell:Hilo's Alan D Collins Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed George Sarr: Thanks for a job well done! I am really impressed. Keep it up! It is very late here in the UK (4 a.m), but I'll write again tommorow. Regards, Ebrima >From: Mr Makaveli <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: The Man Behind The Peanut Shell:Hilo's Alan D Collins >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:39:43 -0600 > >Folks , I don't know where to begin with this unscrupulous character. >One thing I know for sure is that he is the 'real' Alan D Collins. However, >finding his 'funny' companies such as Hilo is as mysterious as >deciphering that D in his middlename. But I was relentless,and I launched >into my excavations into this 'Alice In Wonderland' peanut broker/dealer. >And here is what I dug up from my little consumer investigation. > >First thing I did is contact SGL INTERNATIONAL LLC P.O.Box 20124, >Atlanta, GA 30358-2124 at 404-252-6887. I spoke with a gentleman by the >name of Curt Johnston.. Now if you follow this link : > >http://www1.surfsouth.com/~apnut/page8.html > >titled BROKERS & DEALERS, scroll down a little and to your right you shall >see Mr Curt Johnston, his title Traffic/Logistics. Just above Mr Johnston >is our real mcCoy, the demented Sir Alan D. Collins. Note his title : Vice >President. Ping! uh-huh! > >Anyways,I introduced myself to Mr Johnston as a prominent investor in >the peanut business, who has to make a decision very soon and that I was >scouting the market and that before I throw all my DOUGH on 'funny', >companies I think I should get to know a little about the company's >background and he knows that was very understandable. He said , >" they've been in the business for while blah blah ". The usual, so I > interrupted him and ask him if he knows a competitor name Hilo whose >president I noticed was their former VP. He replied quickly that, " Mr >Alan >D Collins was indeed their former vice president." " Mr Collins did not >leave > their company in good terms." I asked him then if he would recommend Mr > Collins company. His answer, " Mr Collins has a reputation of being an >unscrupulous businessman and that he does not take good care of his >customer. " He add, " Mr Collins can be very convincing and has a way of >talking his way out ". In short he means he doesn't recommend him and that >they can offer me a better service. Curt also mentioned that Mr Collins >left >their company 4 years ago and started his own brokerage. I asked Curt if >SGL (their company) or Hilo (Collins' company or brokerage I should say), >for comparison purposes, are fortune 500/ multi-million companies ,because >I am the VP of a multi-million international company? His answer was, " >well >all of us are small companies and privately owned but he wouldn't disclose >any more information . So to me, his answer means 'WERE SIMPLY PETTY >TRADERS' trying to make a living in very competitive and risky business. > >That was the end of my phone conversion with Mr Johnston. I thanked him >and moved on to my next phone call. This time it was Stephanie from > www.peanutsusa.com. Not an e-mail but a phone conversion. I called >703-838-9500 and asked for Cindy Stickles. She wasn't available so >Stephanie >was there to help me. I asked her what their company oes and that I was an >inquiring peanut investor. She explains that they have registered peanut >brokers and dealers and what they do for them is explain on their mission >statement, which is on their website: >( http://www.peanutsusa.com/services/mission.html). >Fair enough. > > I then ask her if they are affiliated with a comapny name Hilo whose > President is Alan D Collins. She checked their database and her answer >was , no sorry he is NOT LISTED. I asked, how about SGL INTERNATIONAL >LLC ? She looked, and her answer this time is : they're LISTED with us . >In conclusion, she stated that if a peanut company is not listed in their >database, and they in the US market, then they should NOT be taken taken >seriously.There is also the American Peanut Shellers Association who also >register genuine, NOT the 'funny', peanut brokers and dealers. They too do >not have Mr Collins' company listed. Keep in mind, all along that Mr >Collins >told us his company is US based yet none of the Better Business Bureaus >know about his existence. So, we know atleast that his company website is > not www.peanutsusa.com. Viz: >.................................................................. >DETAILS ON WWW.PEANUTSUSA.COM (courtesy of networksolutions) > > **Public Record*** > >Registrant: National Peanut Council, Inc. (PEANUTSUSA-DOM >1500 King St., Suite 301 Alexandria, VA 22314 US >Domain Name: PEANUTSUSA.COM >Administrative Contact, Billing Contact: >Stickles, Cindy (CS12114 [log in to unmask] National Peanut Council, Inc. > 1500 King St., Suite 301 Alexandria , VA 22314 703-838-9500 (FAX) >703-838-9508 >Technical Contact: Administrator, DNS Technical (KB336 [log in to unmask] > Epoch Networks 555 Anton Boulevard Costa Mesa, CA 92626 >714 327-2000 (FAX) 714 327-2187 Record last updated on 12-Sep-2000. >Record expires on 13-Sep-2002. Record created on 12-Sep-1996. >Database last updated on 30-Nov-2000 06:19:31 EST. Domain servers > in listed order: >AUTH1.NS.ENI.NET 205.214.45.6 >AUTH2.NS.ENI.NET 155.229.2.181 >AUTH3.NS.ENI.NET 155.229.126.67 >.......................................................................... >I found out that the reason some these brokers don't have a website is >not because they can't afford it.The reason is they are so full of >'peanuts' >and it won't be in their best interest for consumers to know about ther >unscrupulous behavior. It appears to me that anyone can really pursue >these peanut brokerage licence just as you would go about getting a real >estate licence. Have little bit of cash , say $50,000 - $100,000, a >business >licence, dudge Uncle Sam(IRS), go to a third world country as they called >it, juice their government and play hardball. Question is how long are >willing to play this game. Now Mr Collins look like he was caught with >his pants down. Am afraid if he doesn't take his chill pills, he may >suffer >from a heart attack or dementia praecox and may not even last long >enough to pursue any litigation. > >In my head, all these bits and pieces are now making a lot of sense. When >I read this crook's e-mail addressed to Ebrima Ceesay, I felt what is the >big >fuss ,running around and ranting like a chicken with it's head cut. If >there >is no element of truth in Ebrima's story, why would any president of a >genuine company reacts in such an infantile manner. It's very obvious that >he is out to stop any whistle-blower before his little investment shinks >into >the waters of the Atlantic Ocean. No wonder his former employer didn't >speak well of him. Any ingenious businessman, especially a president of >a corporation , will first consult with his legal team and top executives >before >publicly waging a lost battle with a renown journalist like Ebrima Ceesay. >You go boy! > >These litigated tactics does nothing but add more guilt to accusations made > before him. What Ebrima is doing is what any noble Gambian would do if >they smell a RAT, and for some us who do not have the ability to see shi* >when they smell it ought rally behind Ebrima. One thing that also doesn't >add up is a timeline discrepancy. According to Mr Collins, he had been >investing in the Gambia with Hilo since 1993, yet when I asked his former >employer, they said said he left the company in very bad terms 4 years >ago, >which would have been 1996. Lots of inconsistencies and variations is what >I've been able to pile up from this 'bag of peanuts' character. > >Did , I also mention that I talked to his secretary here in the US. That's >right, >I forgot. Her name is Wil Helmina, which she eloquently spelt and carefully >noted on my Bic. Anyway here's how the our conversion lays out. I >introduced >my self, this time as Hector Nunez. I told her I am a mexican peanut >investor >scouting for a major trade deal and needed to inquire about their company. >She said," they are a small privately owned company based in Alpharetta, >GA, USA. >COLLINS BROKERAGE COMPANY, LLC . Our President is Alan D Collins >and he is out of the office. " I asked where he might be and she replied," >he >is actually out of the country and will be back in couple of weeks". I >asked, >what exactly they will do if I was interested. She replied , " well Alan >buys & sells highest bidders and gurantees profit to his clients but I >would > have to e-mail Alan who would be in a better position to explain it to me >. >His e-mail address : [log in to unmask] was here confirmed by his secretary. . >I was expecting his e-mail to end with @hilo.com or @hilonuts.com , >something >to embellish that presidential status he seemed to be affiliated himself >with, >you know . So I thought this guy is really hiding behind a firewall. > > When I asked her how big they were , you know fortune 500 or something. >She replied," we a very small company. We have only one location worldwide >and that is our Georgia location. I then asked her how many people work >for the > company. Her reply? It's only the 4 of us, uh-huh. Then she sighed, " Ok >honey , >I got to go now. E-mail Alan and he will be able to assist you further." I >wanted >to say who are you calling 'honey', but I understood it is a southern >hospitality. >Man! What a mess! These are the people our government are trusting with our > taxpayers money. These people/companies are ghosts for crying out loud >sake. >The question that is still clouting my reasoning is what exactly is this >Alan D Collins >DOING for our poor susceptible farmers, and Gambia as a whole. Maybe he can >explain it in layman's term and not in 'peanut's term'. And how >irresponsible can >any government with supposedly educated decision-makers, all that >KNOWLEDGE, >all that COLLEGE , to allow a petty peanut broker from the South swindle >such >amount of money. Either Mr Collins is incredibly stupid or incredibly smart >to >think that we , patriotic Gambians, will be intimadated for simply >inquiring what > is in our national interest. No amount of intimidation and >inducement(checkbook) >will prevent us from fighting against injustice, because injustice anywhere >is a >threat to justice everywhere. > >................................. > 'THE MAN BEHIND THE MASK' > >COLLINS BROKERAGE COMPANY, LLC > 4640 Valais Court > Tel: (770) 753-2980 > Suite 200 > Fax: (770) 753-2985 > Alpharetta, GA 30022 > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > Company Tax ID is 582-250-242 > Alan D. Collins, President >...................................... > > > By FOX 5's Randy Travis (o-:)!. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 23:51:46 EST Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Man Behind The Peanut Shell:Hilo's Alan D Collins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George Sarr, Well done! Jabou In a message dated 11/30/00 11:14:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << olks , I don't know where to begin with this unscrupulous character. >One thing I know for sure is that he is the 'real' Alan D Collins. However, >finding his 'funny' companies such as Hilo is as mysterious as >deciphering that D in his middlename. But I was relentless,and I launched >into my excavations into this 'Alice In Wonderland' peanut broker/dealer. >> Jabou Joh MAAC World Traders Tel:(615) 646-9784 Fax:(507) 262-1590 e-mail:[log in to unmask] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------