Jobe, sure you can do better than that. You accuse me of personalizing the issues and in the next sentence you call me 'a very angry and petty extremist' without backing up your rhetoric. Who is personalizing issues here. When I called you a coward, I had ample evidence to back up what I said. You told us that you were scared of a future imagined enemy. Jobe, with me, you cannot get away with double-talk and hypocrisy. Your problem is that you are trying very hard to come across as a decent and intelligent person that needs to be taken seriously; BUT you do not have the guts to stand up for what you believe in. Few days ago when Ebrima was not on the List, you were jumping up and down pretending that you silenced Ebrima and his Sources because of your 'counter' views. Now if people read your messages to Ebrima, people are wondering whether it is the same Jobe that vowed to debunk the 'lies' from Ebrima's Sources. You are a phony. I just saw another illustration of your double-talk. You condemned indemnity for perpetrators of the April massacre but hasten to point out how Yaya is not responsible for the cold-blooded massacre of our children. To the amateur it will appear that Jobe supports the Rule of Law and condemns the impunity that will be ensured by the Indemnity Clause. Why you do not like me, is because I see through your hypocrisy and will state it in no uncertain terms. According to you: no immunity so long as Yaya is not held responsible. That is very different from: no immunity. Period. In my book, you will be a decent person and in the league of people like Saul Khan had you just said that you denounce the Indemnity legislation and not try to absolve Yaya. It is this type of hypocrisy and double-talk that I will not stand from you. Call me angry or petty if you want, but I vow to unmask your hypocrisy. Look who is talking about clouding a debate. Who veered off to talk about Nigeria and the 1981 coup and the stadium stampede in order to justify Yaya's despicable actions vis-a-vis the massacre of our children in 2000? Why, may I ask, did the same 'callous soldiers' you talked about in your theory not open fire on our children on April 10 and 11, 2001? If they are 'inherently evil' and do not need Yaya's orders to massacre our children, why did these people spare the Gambian children before 1994 and in 2001? They are still soldiers because Yaya has not punished them by taking away their guns. I submit to you that had these people not been Ordered by Yaya, not a single life would have been lost on April 10 and 11, 2000. What you failed to include in your comparative analysis was that there were student demonstrations during the Jawara regime and our children were not massacred by these 'inherently evil soldiers'. These animals acted on Yaya's diabolical Orders. Yaya is as culpable as the trigger happy animals that pulled the trigger on our children. If Yaya and his cohorts want, they can pass all sorts of Indemnity legislation. They can send all sorts of cronies to G_L and elsewhere to try and absolve Yaya of liability. At the end of the day, when everything is said and done, Yaya will pay for his crimes. Jobe, as I told you before, everyone has to be accountable, including yourself. If you want to convince us that Gambia deserves Yaya as a leader, you need to come up with solid points. Whining about my extremism and choice of words will not cut it. It is bizarre that some one like you will admit to all the things you admitted to about the ills in our society (called the situation ungodly) and still turn around and attempt to perpetuate Yaya. It is just incomprehensible how you spend your time trying to perpetuate Yaya and you still cannot articulate why you think a child murderer and a thieve deserves to lead us or deserves your support. How can you concede to everything Ebrima said, and still be loyal to Yaya? How can you concede that Yaya is 'remotely' responsible for the massacre of our children and still argue that he deserves the highest honor in the land: the privilege to lead us and live at taxpayers' expense? If you reconcile this conundrum for me, I promise to get off your back. I have tried several times to elicit an answer from you to no avail. But I will not give up on you. I will try and ensure that you become a 'straight-talker'; at least when you are participating in debates on G_L. I pray that you overcome your scary thoughts and stop imagining future enemies and muster enough courage like our children that stood up to Yaya on April 10 and 11, 2000. I will endeavor to be less angry. KB >From: Kebba Jobe <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Yahya Jammeh is indeed a LIAR! >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:12:59 -0000 > >Dampha, lets discuss the issues at stake and not cloudy the debate by >personalizing it. The fact of the matter is you seem to be a very angry and >petty extremist, that I am not. > >Have a good day & bye 4Now, KB Jobe. > >>People should have the guts to stand up for what is right. No one >>would have killed Batchi for rejecting the post. Yaya cannot kill all >the >>Gambians that would stand up and say that it was wrong for him to >order >>the >>cold-blooded murder of our children. It is about time that people >stand >>up >>for what is right come what may. Our children did it on April 10 and >11, >>2000. It is about time adults step up and stop this cowardice and >>selfishness. I am not saying this because I am not in The Gambia. You >> >know >>that when I was back home I was saying the same things and if I were >back >>home, I will be saying the same. Wrong will always be wrong, no matter >> >where >>we are. Some of us could have been Kebba Jobe. But we chose not to >dine >>with >>the Devil and take our chances in competitive terrain like the U.S. >where >>the deck is stacked against us. >> >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your >full name and e-mail address. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------