Hamjatta, Saul, KB et al,

Thanks for seeing through and exposing the vile  vermin-like Jobe character.  I gave up long time ago on this man's intellectual 'buffoonery'.  

Jobe is a lying sadist who has been speaking with a stinking double tongue.

This man has never been sincere.  He called the opposition 'angry', 'warped-minded', 'narrow-minded' and all the adjectives he can muster, yet we debated him with respect.  He called Ebrima Ceesay names and when the guy challenged him with facts he became mute.  How can we not be angry when we have murdering rogues in our midst who do not have any form of guilt in them.

  People like this man are more dangerous than Yahya and it is really worrying that these people are not disturbed by the continuous state of decadence in the Gambia. 

As far as i am concern a liar like 'Joke Nying' need not take our time.  He is just here to cause confusion and distract the opposition which is why he gets a pay-check from the APRC. 

Let us focus our energies on the big picture and ignore this 'intellectual moron'.

Regards,

Mboge 

>From: saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: To Kebba Joke
>Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 17:06:21 -0000
>
>Hamjatta,
>
>I was going to get back to Mr. Jobe last weekend, but on second
>thought, I
>decided to ignore him. Like many have opined here, I believe the
>man's sole
>motive for being here is to distract us from engaging in productive
>ventures. While he sometimes protest that he's open to conversion,
>he never
>passes up an opportunity to say why he CANNOT support any of the
>alternative
>parties to Yaya Jammeh (the APRC party and the man are one and the
>same.)
>And to make matters worse, Jobe Nying keeps telling us that
>highlighting the
>atrocities committed by this rogue regime aren't "issues that
>matter" to
>Gambians. I wonder which Gambians he's speaking for?
>
>Besides the twisted logic the man exhibits, there's something really
>scary
>about Jobe which yourself and KB have already highlighted: Mr. Kebba
>Jobe
>Daddy Nying is a very COLD, SADISTIC, and hypocritical character.
>He's a
>first-hand witness to the Hell Ride Gambians are being dragged on by
>the
>Criminal Syndicate a.k.a. APRC govt., but because it hasn't affected
>him
>directly, he's indifferent to the calamity. He is comfortable
>supporting an
>irredeemably despotic regime, even while he decries the main
>opposition's
>potential for those tendencies! (This, while conveniently ignoring
>the fact
>that there is NOBODY in the UDP leadership whose background or
>personality
>would lend one to fear him/her to be a potential murderer, or
>autocrat. NOT
>one!) Unlike most fools who support this govt, this man actually has
>all the
>facts in hand, but has decided to close his eyes to it. That's
>simply very
>cold, and obtuse. Very ANIMAL-LIKE I dare say! No human being with
>their
>innate faculties intact should behave like that.
>
>Mr. Jobe Nying cannot support the UDP because they're a bunch of
>"angry
>tribalists" whose intent to "reverse everything" the APRC has done
>will
>plunge the country into "civil war." This isn't the first time we've
>seen
>people invoke such fears to disguise their real intention: seeing
>the
>perpetuation of a corrupt, and absolutely tyrannical regime. If
>we're going
>to be honest, we're duty-bound to separate our personal interests
>from that
>which benefits/hinders our larger society most. When one does that,
>it's not
>hard to realize that (based on impartial evidence,) there has never
>been a
>more vindictive, angry, and tribalist group of Gambians than the
>APRC govt.!
>What do you call the seizure of people's homes without due process?
>What do
>you call the sacking of long-serving civil servants because of their
>blood
>ties to prominent members of the old order? What do you call the
>appointment
>of people to public and security positions based on ethnicity? (Yaya
>Jammeh
>wants the power to appoint Chiefs because electing them is bound to
>cause
>social disharmony. In West Kiang -a 90%+ Mandingo region, he
>appointed a
>transplanted Foni native Bekai Gibba –his kin- to the Chieftancy.
>Need I
>point out the anomaly in the army? So much for wanting social
>harmony!)
>
>There's simply no precedent for what the APRC is doing in any of
>these areas
>in Gambian history. The PPP at their worst, NEVER ventured so far.
>Mr. Jobe
>Nying's Hobbesean fear of UDP tribalism is clearly refuted by the
>character
>of that party's leadership's own family trees. It defies basic
>commonsense
>to call someone like Ousainou Darbo whose two wives are all from a
>different
>ethnic group a tribalist. Does Mr. Jobe Nying want us to believe
>that the
>man is capable of inciting his native group against "others" when
>his own
>children are half that "others" in their genetic makeup? Where is
>the logic
>in that accusation? And that isn't the only twisted logic/claim Mr.
>Jobe
>Nying has made. Even his claim on the GDP and its significance is
>wrong. I
>assume the man isn't familiar with Finance/Accounting, so I forgive
>his
>interpretation, but it would be helpful if one tries to understand
>such
>matters before basing erroneous claims on data one can hardly
>interpret
>right. But having read all Mr. Jobe Nying's submissions, I came to
>two
>simple conclusions.
>
>1. Mr. Jobe Nying is right that Yaya Jammeh isn’t the biggest menace
>to our
>society: Him and his types are! There’s a theory in modern politics
>called
>“Plausible Deniability” that is often used to save leaders from
>embarrassing
>situations. In other words, the leader didn’t “see” what he’s in
>fact seen,
>or doesn’t “know about” what he actually knows to be going on:
>Reagan in
>the Iran-Contra scandal, Helmut Kohl in the “money for influence”
>pact his
>party had with many German businesses, etc. Get the drift? The Kebba
>Jobe
>Daddy Nyings of the Gambia have turned this whole concept into a
>shameless
>art form. They live and breathe it daily. They know about the
>savagery
>constantly meted out to opponents of the regime. They know about the
>open
>bleeding of public coffers. They know about the falsification of all
>types
>of govt. documents. They know about the sorry existence the majority
>of
>Gambians are forced to live thanks to the APRC. They know about the
>alarming EXODUS of TALENTED Gambians (the bedrock of the economy.)
>And they
>know about the unjustified harassment many ordinary Gambians are
>subjected
>to on a daily basis. Yet, despite all this, the Kebba Jobe Daddy
>Nyings
>shut out these facts because things haven’t hit home directly. So
>they
>defend the criminals, and rationalize their actions, as “neutral”
>civil
>servants, or “respectable” Cabinet Secretaries. They call it
>“Serving My
>Nation With Honor.” A very catchy phrase indeed. But once Yaya
>Jammeh fires
>them, or their wives, sisters, daughters or sons run afoul of the
>system,
>then Raja Sesame! What a mighty surprise! The opposition, and
>critics on
>Gambia-L are indeed right about the APRC govt.! It’s time to be
>“patriotic.”
>But until then, it’s “plausible deniability” with the deformed logic
>of a
>hypocrite. Talk about trying to wake up a “pretend-sleeper!”
>
>2. The second point is this attempt to portray anyone who calls for
>justice
>for victims of the APRC as “extremists,” “haters,” “intolerant,”
>“tribalist,” “anarchist,” etc. Very disingenuous, this one. You see
>there
>are two types of Gambians: those who are demanding justice and fair
>play
>uncompromisingly, and those whose assiduous attempt to protect their
>vested
>interest believe the pursuit of material well-being is exculpatory.
>Somehow,
>as long as they’re making money, or have “big jobs,” it really
>doesn’t
>matter HOW they do it. Ignore basic human etiquette? Why not! Close
>one’s
>eyes to murder and mayhem? Who said you can’t? Prostitute oneself
>and
>wive(s)? It’s just “temporary” – I’m the permanent owner. How about
>letting
>Massa XYZ have a little fun with sister Kumba, or daughter Fatou?
>Hey what’s
>the harm – since they’re bound to give it up, they may as well give
>it up to
>the “Big Man” – the “good genes?” This is the twisted mentality of
>the Kebba
>Jobe Daddy Nyings. They cannot understand why some of us could stick
>to
>principles when turning a blind eye could get us “good jobs” and
>material
>things as members of the “In” club. Their behavior is as sickening
>as it is
>shameless. The disgust and contempt is certainly mutual. People on
>our side
>should take Kebba Jobe Daddy Nying’s labels (“extremists,” “haters,”
>“intolerant,” “tribalist,” “anarchists,”) as a compliment. Anything
>kinder
>from one who so cheerfully strengthens the hand of the devil, would
>be a
>blow to decent human beings everywhere. There’s no salvation for one
>who
>arrogantly cheerleads for a band of ne’er-do-wells bent on
>destroying
>everything decent about a whole people. What is going on in the
>Gambia is a
>tragedy of epic proportions, and the complicity of people like Kebba
>Jobe
>Daddy Nying in it is shameful. Very, very, shameful.
>
>Good day!
>
>Saul.
>
>
>
>Kebba Joke,
>Yeah, that's right! From now onwards, you shall be known on this
>forum as
>Kebba Joke - courtsey of Brother KB. As he wittily pointed out to
>you, you
>are nothing but a big joke. So we will just have to finesse the
>earlier
>identity crisis you've gone through and save you the trouble of
>mistaking
>yourself for Daddy Nying. We will henceforth expunge the "b" in the
>"Jobe"
>and replace it with "k" so you shall become now as Kebba Joke. I
>advice all
>my compatriots to stick to this name so there wouldn't be any need
>for
>confusions. See me? Kebba Joke, the joke is on you.
>
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