Hello G-Lers

Can someone please send me the three part piece of Mr colley's revelations about The Jammeh coups, i mean Coup in the Gambia series. My roommate(who has access to my mail box to read G-L postings) mistakenly emptied my box and trash can before I've had the chance to read them. So if any one on the list has saved the pieces, i would appreciate it if you could mail it to me at my email, [log in to unmask].

I wish every one a good day.

Sulayman

>From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Mr.Dampha: Re: COUP IN GAMBIA THREE
>Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 08:38:42 +0200
>
>I am very sorry, for my late response. We are moving to Uppsala tomorrow, and we are very busy packing our
>things here. My email address will change, but i will send my new email address to the L, for my friends and
>relatives to get it.
>Kebba, i want you to know that my position has NEVER changed, and it will NEVER change towards this regime. I
>will NEVER support murderers! Most of the army officers in the GNA has narrated exactly these same stories
>Ebou Colley is telling us. I think, denying these facts Ebou Colley narrates to us, without narrating your
>own story is a mockery to the victims families. Let them remember that their narration day MUST come. We are
>looking forward to hearing from them, how these massacres happened and who did them? We would be very
>grateful to hear their stories, to make us not to believe Ebou Colley.
>Elhajj.
>
>Dampha Kebba skrev:
>
> > Elhajj, welcome back. I hope your busy schedule dwindles as we move to
> > October. We need all hands to fight these vermin. October is do or die. Let
> > us all work on our family members back home and abroad. Tell them that Yaya
> > is intolerable. We have to get rid of him in October.
> >
> > Elhajj, I am glad that you also knew Saye and you corroborated the good
> > things me and Colly said about the gentleman. I am also sure Ebrima, being a
> > soccer fan, also knew Saye; albeit casually. A very disciplined and good
> > man. Elhajj, there is something you said that struck me. You said: "they
> > pretend as, if they have not even done anything wrong in the Gambia".
> > Elhajj, this is the disgusting part about these animals. I mentioned the
> > other day that I saw the video tape of the cabinet meeting that took place
> > right after Saye et al were slaughtered. I saw this tape in 1994. Remember,
> > this tape was recorded on the afternoon following the night AFPRC claimed
> > that there was a counter coup. As we all know, this afternoon was the
> > afternoon Saye and the other officers were slaughtered and the junior
> > soldiers that were forced to bury them were also slaughtered. I hope people
> > notice the ethnic make-up of the victims of this pogrom. I am not saying
> > that everything was tribally motivated, because Sabally is not a Jola. What
> > I want people to see here is that the Devil (Yaya), who is most certainly a
> > tribal bigot, played a very vital role here even though he was not present
> > at the killing fields of Nyambai Forest (according to accounts that I
> > heard). One day when it is all said and done, Edward Singhateh will tell the
> > whole world that Yaya gave them direct orders to slaughter those innocent
> > citizens.
> >
> > But Elhajj, going back to the video tape and the pretense in these people.
> > After they slaughtered Saye et al, Yaya called a cabinet meeting to inform
> > his cabinet that AFPRC has foiled the 'coup' and 'calm' has returned to the
> > country. If you see that tape, you will give up on some of our people. When
> > Sabally and Hydara entered the State House gates with their camouflage
> > uniforms and grass-decorated helmets, they were welcomed with cheers and
> > clapping by the same guards that later arrested them at gun-point. These
> > guards were posing for the camera holding canned drinks and food, laughing
> > and happy that their heroes have just foiled a 'coup'. It was sickening. But
> > what was more nauseating was the behavior of the cabinet members. Even
> > civilian members were congratulating Sabally and Hydara. You could see the
> > fright in the eyes of these civilians. They were dining with the Devil;
> > mingling with murderers, with blood dripping down their fingers, fresh
> > killers. These civilians were too scared to think straight. None of them
> > even secretly wondered how come Sabally and Hydara did not even have a
> > scratch on their bodies after having been involved in a gun battle. No one
> > asked Yaya et al to provide evidence that showed that the alleged plotters
> > were planning a coup. None of them followed up to ask people whether Saye
> > for instance was at 'Depot' on that fateful night. They just signed up to
> > Yaya's lies. They are all accomplices to this heinous crime. They happily
> > subscribed to the idea that there was a counter coup and all the soldiers
> > that died were killed in the battle-field. No probing. No critical thinking.
> > If Yaya and Sabally say so, it must be right.
> >
> > But the pretense did not stop at the jubilation and the 'high-fives' at the
> > State House grounds and at the cabinet room. Ebrima might remember this one
> > as a journalist in The Gambia during this period. When Saye's father
> > complained about his son being missing, the way these vermin treated the old
> > man, is just heart-breaking. AFPRC came to the newspapers and told the old
> > man to shut up. They said it was 'irresponsible' of him to even suggest that
> > his son was killed. As Kabir would say, they tried to hijack the man's
> > grief. I still cannot get over that. They would not even allow the man to
> > talk about his son's death. Elhajj, imagine that happening to you. Someone
> > slaughters your family member in cold-blood, does not stop at cowardly
> > denying his crime, but goes further to mock you by telling you not to even
> > talk about your family member. See how sick these people and their
> > supporters are? And they wonder why I hate them. Like I said, I have never
> > once spoken to Saye. But I feel his father's pain. Every half decent human
> > being should feel the man's pain.
> >
> > If I were a civilian sitting in that cabinet that day, rest assured that the
> > vermin were going to kill me, but I will darn well be critical. Before they
> > sell me any garbage, I will ask them to show me some evidence of how their
> > lives were threatened on that November night. The vermin were lying. Their
> > lives were not threatened. Sabally cooked up that hit list he was showing to
> > people. Maybe Colly or someone else can confirm the following. According to
> > my information, during the day of the alleged coup attempt, some AFPRC
> > members (I think Sabally and Hydara) had gone to 'Depot' to meet the rank
> > and file. From 'Depot', they were supposed to go to Yundum to hold a similar
> > meeting and touch base with the rank and file for the first time after the
> > coup on July 22, 1994. When they went to 'Depot' that afternoon, I
> > understand that they were confronted by certain soldiers that were critical
> > about the kind of life-style the AFPRC junta was leading. The junta members
> > asked for honest opinions from the rank and file and some naively (in
> > hindsight) voiced their grievances. Some complained that the soldiers that
> > came in and said that they were soldiers with a difference and they abhorred
> > the 'flamboyant' life-styles of the PPP people, were now leading more
> > flamboyant life-styles; even giving their wives government vehicles while
> > soldiers were suffering at the barracks. Basically, they were telling
> > Sabally et al that AFPRC broke its promise to the nation. They were all a
> > bunch of low-life liars. Criminals.
> >
> > After getting an earful, the vermin took an easy way out. Rather than facing
> > facts and changing their life-styles and living as honest citizens, they
> > decided to silence their critics. They slaughtered the people that wanted to
> > keep them honest. I have no reason to doubt this version of events, because
> > up to this day, this is the modus operandi of the AFPRC/APRC. They engage in
> > corruption, murder, mayhem, you name it. When you confront them with their
> > crimes, instead of admitting their crimes and changing their ways, they try
> > to silence you. In November 1994, they silenced their critics by
> > slaughtering them in cold-blood. In 2000 they silenced our children by
> > murdering them in broad daylight in cold-blood. In the same year they tried
> > silencing other innocent Gambians by abducting them, incarcerating them,
> > burning down their properties, deporting them, firing them from their jobs,
> > threatening them, bribing them etc. And in 2001, they silenced their critics
> > by passing an Indemnity Decree that would not even allow us to investigate
> > the Massacre of our children.
> >
> > And they still wonder why I hate them. Elhajj, thanks for your contributions
> > and I look forward to many more.
> > KB
> >
> > >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: COUP IN GAMBIA THREE
> > >Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 00:08:54 +0200
> > >
> > >Ebou Colley,
> > >Thank you very much, for clearing the dust. Although i am very busy, but i
> > >cannot ignore your interesting
> > >revelations about the past events. Late Lt. Gibril Saye was a good friend
> > >and brother to me, and when i read
> > >your article yesterday, i dreamt about him. I don`t know how these
> > >murderers will survive with their families
> > >in a future Gambia. The funiest thing is that they pretend as, if they have
> > >not even done anything wrong in
> > >the Gambia. My advise to them is to pack up their families and leave the
> > >Gambia, or they might face the
> > >consequence. Even, if they take all the Gambians to Mecca, people will
> > >never forgive them these terrible
> > >crimes. I therefore urge them to raise their heads and look at the sun.
> > >Thanks
> > >Elhajj.
> > >
> > >Ebrima Ceesay skrev:
> > >
> > > > Ebou Colly:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks once again for throwing more light on the Gambian coup of 1994.
> > >You
> > > > pen, I can tell you, is powerful. No wonder they say "the pen is
> > >mightier
> > > > than the sword". My Brother, your narrative is excellent, and I do hope
> > >that
> > > > Gambians in the Gambia, are distributing your series of articles on the
> > > > "Jammeh coup", through out the country, so that people are fully aware
> > >of
> > > > what really happened.
> > > >
> > > > As Sister Astrid said the other day, I think you should really write a
> > >book
> > > > on the Coup, just for the record. I am convinced that it would be a
> > >master
> > > > piece if you were to write a book on the coup. And if you do decide to
> > >write
> > > > a book, my only suggestion is that you might bring the Gambian Case into
> > >a
> > > > more effective dialogue with some of the recent theoretical literature
> > >and
> > > > debates on the military, democratisation, civil society and the State in
> > > > Africa (more widely).
> > > >
> > > > It would be very interesting if you were to find time to try and set the
> > > > Gambian experience under Jammeh in a theoretical context, whenever you
> > > > decide to do a book. An examination of pertinent research data, as well
> > >as
> > > > commenting on associated theoretical literature/debate on the African
> > > > military and power, would certainly enable you to show how the Gambian
> > > > scenario reflects and fits some of these hypothetical models.
> > > >
> > > > By the way, there is a wealth of very recent theoretical research and
> > > > literature which will enable you to set what has been happening in The
> > > > Gambia since 1994, into a theoretical background pertaining to West
> > >Africa
> > > > in particular, and to the African Continent more generally.
> > > >
> > > > Meanwhile, while looking forward to reading part four of your series, I
> > >pray
> > > > for your continued good health and long life so that the enormous task
> > >that
> > > > lies ahead can be finished/accomplished.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Brother Ebrima
> > > >
> > >_________________________________________________________________________
> > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at
> > >http://www.hotmail.com.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the
> > >Gambia-L
> > > > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html
> > > > You may also send subscription requests to
> > >[log in to unmask]
> > > > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write
> > >your full name and e-mail address.
> > > >
> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L
> > >Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html
> > >You may also send subscription requests to
> > >[log in to unmask]
> > >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your
> > >full name and e-mail address.
> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L
> > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html
> > You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask]
> > if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address.
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L
>Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html
>You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask]
>if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------


Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and e-mail address. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------