Please ignore this crap from Jobe. He is already pre-empting your response.
Regards,
Mboge
>From: Kebba Jobe <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Saihou Mballow
>Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 12:51:41 -0000
>
>Saihou, do you want to tell me that after more than 4 days this is
>all you
>can come up with to refute my assertion that Lamin Waa Juwara gaffed
>when he
>made those scathing remarks about the gender senstitization
>programmes going
>on in the country?
>
>What you've posted here is just the reaction of an individual when
>asked
>about her reaction to the unnecessary carnage by some drunken
>hooligans who
>went on the rampage destroying bars and motels and beating
>prostitutes. What
>has this got to do with the UDP propanda secretary calling
>respectable
>people like Juka Jabang, Adelaide Sosseh Gaye et al, who are
>promoting the
>affairs of our women folks, oportunists who just want to get into
>politics
>through the back door by being nominated to the national assembly? I
>urge
>you to revisit what I wrote earlier before quickly running to your
>keyboard.
>I await your response.
>
>Have a good day and bye 4Now, KB Jobe.
>
>PS. As the cyber spokeperson of the main opposition party on this
>forum, I
>expect you to put your points across as decently as you can. Nobody
>has a
>monopololy of using vulgar language or insults. If you don't heed
>this
>warning every thing you direct towards me will be hauled back at you
>in like
>manner.
>>
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>> ><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: CALLOUS Jobe's propaganda
>>Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:17:28 -0700
>>
>>In my last posting,i promised to continue the comment
>>i started on women ,politics and gender issues.I will
>>begin with bringing you the interview of Mrs Isatou
>>Touray a leading gender activist made wednesday
>>Nov.2000 following the attack on the alledged"sex
>>workers" in pubs and hotels.
>>
>>Mrs Touray was speaking at the Gamcotrap office and
>>said."gambian women are always subjected to mental and
>>physical torture,which is a gross violation of their
>>fundamental rights."she went on, they are part of the
>>state,they have a right,and being single does not mean
>>you are a sex worker.you have a freedom to live and
>>entaintain and enjoy your life as and when you like
>>it.That does not mean you are doing sex work and in
>>any case,it takes both men and women to sex work,Mrs
>>Touray lamented.
>>
>>"I think there are certain things that are going on in
>>this country today with regards to women lives and
>>that is any group can just get up and say these women
>>are involved in skin bleaching and these women are
>>putting on short dresses.There individual rights,their
>>sexual rights,their individuality is being
>>undermined,their existence is being eroded,"she said.
>>
>>Mrs.Touray complained that gambian women are being
>>marginalised even though they constitute 51 percent of
>>the population.she said women have been contributing
>>to all aspects of the socio-economic development of
>>the country but complained about the slow pace of
>>justice in case involving women.
>>
>>Finally,she said"women are being threatened and i am
>>telling you that every gambian woman for that matter
>>is threantened and is actually thinking of something
>>else.I wonder if these would not be translated into
>>negative votes in the next coming elections,women have
>>right to self-determination"she concluded.
>>
>>You see,the real words of of the gambian women but not
>>the discrepancy and lies that Kebba is trying to
>>bring.the rhetoric of the APRC govrnment and the
>>actual practice concerning women is different.Many
>>women are repulsed by the hypocrisy involved.The cheap
>>propaganda on APRC-women in politics that Kebba is
>>trying to frame is neither at home nor in any gambian
>>society today.
>>
>> Yahya Jammeh's misogynist propaganda against women
>>has been known to every honest gambian.He has on many
>>ocassions insulted gambian women publicly on TV and
>>Radio and this is an open secret.He is the first
>>president to jail women for skin bleaching and his
>>government is one and only dirty govrnment that has
>>tortured women on their private parts in the present
>>of three secretaries of state Yankuba Touray,Edward
>>Singhateh and Kabba Bajo on september 22nd,1996 at the
>>Denton Bridge during an attacked on UDP entourage.
>>
>>This government is not at all committed to "practical
>>feminism"reform causes in promoting skills and
>>financial resources to build up network of good works
>>onbehalf of mothers,children and abandoned infants.
>>
>>As i am writing today,many mothers cannot pay for
>>their children's school fees as a result their
>>children are with them at home but not in school and
>>Kebba you think that is the government out to help
>>women,please,let be serious about issues.
>>
>> BELOW IS UDP VIEWS ON WOMEN AND POLITICS
>>The lack of women's political participation is a very
>>barrier to genuine democracy.If women are not present
>>at policy and decision making levels,there is a
>>democractic deficit.Decision taken without women's
>>perspective lack credibility in a democratic
>>context.Therefore,by their participation women broaden
>>the democratic arena.
>>UDP believed democracy is the free expression of
>>opinion..democracy is a collection of values-respect
>>for the opinion of others,torerance and dialogue.Women
>>participation by expounding and developing these
>>values,begining within the family and passing through
>>the nation,to apply them in a general manner to the
>>social world.
>>
>> UDP is committed to the principle six of the
>>declaration of democracy which states that"democracy
>>is inseparable from the rights set forth in the
>>international instruments"these include the universal
>>declaration of human rights,the international
>>convenant of civil and political rights,and the
>>convention on the elimination of all forms of
>>discrimination against women.
>> Jobe it is easier for you to say what is not going on
>>here on the L than facing the
>>reality.Notwithstanding,to your postings to the
>>contrary,there is no evidence that UDP is what you and
>>Yahya feel it is.For that matter,most of your postings
>>are politically incorrect.
>>Saihou
>>
>>
>>
>>--- Kebba Jobe <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> > The likes of you Bamba Lying and Olly mboge don'y
> > get it. Self denial is
> > becoming some of you. You will not help your cause
> > by failing to point out
> > to the party that you support when they make
> > blunders. Any right thinking
> > person, not myopic idiots like your lot, will know
> > that for the UDP to stand
> > any chance of being elected to office needs support
> > from all sections of
> > society. If the UDP wants to have a DIGITAL Gambia
> > or campaign on a digital
> > platform, ie either you are with us or you are
> > against us, then I'm afraid
> > call it day. Of the many questions being asked by
> > some in your camp
> > concerning your current exercise, tell me whose
> > concerns have so far been
> > addressed. Six months before presidential elections
> > and the UDP has still
> > failed to give any clear cut program of action or
> > make their manifesto
> > available to your members. If you ask me for example
> > what I think the APRC's
> > priorities would be, I can safely tell you that they
> > will continue to invest
> > in Education, Health, Agriculture and the marketing
> > of our produce. If you
> > ask me their strategy, I can safely tell you that
> > they will constantly the
> > voters that they slowly but surely delivering what
> > they've promised. How
> > about you lot? Ask me about the UDP strategy, and I
> > will tell you that they
> > continue their negative campaign without telling us
> > specifically what they
> > will for us in return for giving them the mandate to
> > lead us. For God's sake
> > wake up you lot! Ask any madman in our streets about
> > PDOIS will do, and they
> > will most probably tell you that they will invest
> > heavily in fisheries and
> > agriculture. Get the drift?
> >
> > Have a nice slumber and bye 4Now, KB Jobe.
> > >
> > >
> > >----Original Message Follows----
> > >From: maimuna kujabi <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > list
> > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: CALLOUS UDP.
> > >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:00:09 -0000
> > >
> > >folks, Mr. Callous Kebba Jobe is out of touch with
> > reality. Mr. Jobe
> > > >wakeup
> > >and smell the coffee perhaps that may help in
> > opening your heart and >mind
> > >to
> > >come to terms with reality. My advice to you is to
> > avoid intellectual
> > >dishonesty on the forum because you are dealing
> > with honest >intellectuals
> > >who will not hesitate to tell you in your face that
> > you are a real >fool
> > >who
> > >reads upside down. Thanks, Maimuna Kujabi.
> > >
> > >
> > >From: saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: CALLOUS UDP.
> > >Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 01:25:20 -0700
> > >
> > > For the past six years gambian women have been
> > >subjected to both mental and physical torture by
> > this
> > >despotic regime.The most recent revelation came
> > from
> > >Mrs Isatou Touray,a leading gender activist.I refer
> > >you to the Daily Observer published on
> > >wednesday,November 1st,2000.
> > >
> > >To be continued:
> > >Saihou
> > >
> > >--- Kebba Jobe <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> > > > BACKGROUND.
> > > >
> > > > During the past few years there has been a lot
> > of
> > > > gender sensitization in
> > > > schools and the media, both print and
> > audio-visual.
> > > > In the print media
> > > > respected ladies like Adelaide Sosseh Gaye,
> > Satang
> > > > Joberteh, Juka Jabang,
> > > > sarah Grey-Johnson etc, contribute to the
> > opinion
> > > > column of the Daily
> > > > observer, enlightening people about the need to
> > > > recognize that the
> > > > development of the country cannot be left in the
> > > > hands of men only. Like I
> > > > said earlier, it is just a pity that our online
> > > > don't put online the opinion
> > > > columns. Then you would have had a better
> > picture
> > > > than the one I am
> > > > painting.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, in addition to this, there is an
> > ongoining
> > > > programme whereby young
> > > > school girls are "twinned' with established
> > ladies
> > > > who achieved something
> > > > for themselves despite all the odds against
> > them.
> > > > The idea is for these kids
> > > > to make supervised visits to the place of work
> > of
> > > > these people as well as
> > > > their homes to enable them to see that education
> > is
> > > > as important to ladies
> > > > as it is to men. They can also see for
> > themselves
> > > > that being a professional
> > > > lady does not in any way affect your role as a
> > wife
> > > > and a mother.
> > > >
> > > > There has also been a lot debates to encourage
> > > > ladies to go into politics
> > > > and for the political parties to introduce some
> > form
> > > > of affirmative action
> > > > to encourage them. There have even been calls
> > for
> > > > some sort of quota for
> > > > women in the national assembly to kickstart the
> > > > process of women's active
> > > > participation in politics.
> > > >
> > > > THE UDP CALLOUSNESS.
> > > >
> > > > When the UDP propaganda secretary was asked
> > about
> > > > his opinion of these
> > > > ongoing activities, he replied that WOMEN HAVE
> > NO
> > > > REASON TO COMPLAIN. When
> > > > asked about his opinion of gender equality and
> > the
> > > > participation of women in
> > > > politics, he said "When we talk about gender
> > > > equality, this has nothing to
> > > > do with participation of women as professional
> > > > politicians. The decision of
> > > > someone to go into politics as a profession
> > depends
> > > > on the individual and,
> > > > there is no gender bias attached to it at all".
> > > > According to him, there
> > > > exists no party for males only. He accused our
> > women
> > > > educatinists of
> > > > "SCHEMING TO BE NOMINATED INSTEAD OF PUTTING A
> > > > FIGHT.
> > > >
> > > > With elections expected in less than 6 months
> > from
> > > > now and with more than
> > > > half our population being women, what sort of
> > > > stupidity and callousness
> > > > would you call this? While the APRC is wooing
> > the
> > > > women voters by
> > > > establishing a special scholarship fund for
> > girls,
> > > > special credit schemes
> > > > for our women farmers, appointment of qualified
> > > > professional ladies to key
> > > > possitions in government such as the secretary
> > > > General of the civil service,
> > > > Auditor General, Director of SIMA vocational
> > > > training centre, Director of
> > > > MDI, the vice president, deputy speaker and
> > other
> > > > secretaries of state, the
> > > > UDP propaganda secretary is instead antagonizing
> > > > them. In his opinion,
> > > > "there will be absolutely no room in the
> > interest
>=== message truncated ===
>
>
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