Mr Coker, I totally agree with you on this one! I mean chongan may have had his share of whatever during the Jawara regime but he is not justifying anything---he's merely adding a piece to the jigsaw & I commend him for that. Good job guys. Ngai --- Prince Obrien-Coker <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Mr. Ngum, > > From what you have written, Ebou Chogan is surely > not your idol and with names like sadist, monster, > hypocrite and torturer, he is also certainly not > your friend. My problem here is: What has that got > to do with his posting? In my opinion Ebrima > Chongan is only trying to clarify and corroborate a > part of Ebou Colly's story of what happened on that > particular night at Mile Two. > This is what Ebou Colly wrote after the brutes were > ready with Capt. Cham: > > "They came back. But it was Major Chongan they went > for. He was also handcuffed, dragged on the cement > floor and beaten mercilessly before they took him to > the back and fired shots in the air again." > > The above paragraph was what Ebou Colly saw. > Chongan's piece is to explain to us what happened > when "they took him to the back...". Ebou Colly > didn't expound on it, simply because he didn't see > it. Which is something that kept everyone who > studiously read his part ten of The Coup, in total > suspense of what went on when "...they took him > (Chongan) to the back...". I think Chongan, who > transpired what Ebou Colly was explaining should be > commended for the dilation and corroboration of Ebou > Colly's story rather than being pilloried for > something that he might had done before this > episode. > > The thing that strikes most in Chongan's piece, is > that there is not a hint of bitterness or resentment > in explaining what he went through that night, in > fact, he added a little bit of hilarity to it by > calling the person who came to dress his wounds; "GV > Paint". > > Mr. Ngum, in your initial reply to Chongan's > posting, you wrote "I ain't get no beef..." but with > the things you wrote about Ebou Chongan in your > subsequent postings to Mr. Owens, KB and the rest, > it seems as if you really have a big bone to pick > with Ebrima Chongan. That is your prerogative, but > you still do not tell us how Chongan could be a > "worse monster" than the people he faced on that > doleful night of 7th September 1994. > > I believe the Gambian people will be grateful to > people like Ebrima Chongan and Ebou Colly for > sharing their experiences under those horrible > situations, for to redress the iniquity of those > dastards, one has to know the TRUTH of what really > happened. > > Prince > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ousainou Ngum > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 19:15 > Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP. > > > Ebou Secka and Samba: > > Ebou, thanks a lot for interpreting what I said > in more legible English. > This is exactly the point that I tried to make and > nothing else. Samba, I'm > not sure about what you said vis-a-vis Ebou Colly, > however, you sill reserve > the right to share whatever info you might have > about this man. Credibility > is what we are looking for. Therefore, I'll urge > Colly to challenge your > charges. Chongan is as well being urged to > challenge my charges, then I'll > breakdown his terrible record into some damned > pieces. > > > Kujabi and Owens: > > I did not condemn Chongan in any way for > sharing his story. In fact, I > believe it's quite important for us to understand > what these people went > through, however, I'm still sticking by what I > said earlier. I honestly > believe that Chongan would have been a worse > monster had he been in the > position of his former colleagues. > > I do not buy his whinings when he had infact > perpetrated crimes with > similar magnitudes in the past with impunity. I do > not need to go into > recent Gambian history to establish my case > against this hypocrite. This guy > has tortured, abused his powers and commited a > whole lot of vices that would > take a journal to tabulate. His dishonesty in > revealing the evil of the > AFPRC while stifling his unruly behavior in the > past is where I have > aproblem with him. So, Ansumana, as you will see, > I'm not the "dishonest" > here. > > KB, what you are implying is that people can > perpetrate the worst crime > against others, but once they come into your camp > (anti-Jammeh), their > terrible records can be disregarded. This is > nonesense! You went on to > rhetorically ask about the possibility of any > vendetta Chongan might have > with myself and Ebou Secka. I will speak for my > self on this. Such a beef is > nonexistent as far as myself and my family is > concerned. > > I honestly believe that you are the one who is > fighting The Jammeh regime > from a personal hatred for the man. Who knows who > you were during those > corrupt Jawara days! You know, it makes me sick > whenever I come across > unpricipled folks like you. INJUSTICES SHOULD BE > TREATED AS SUCH, REGARDLESS > OF WHO THE PERPETRATOR OR THE VICTIM IS. This is > why I'm exposing the > horrible acts of an otherwise professional and > smart officer. No hard > feelings or bitterness. > > Peaceout. > > > Ous Ngum. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of > postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to > [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface > and remember to write your full name and e-mail > address. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of > postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to > [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and > remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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