I tried so hard not to butt in, but i just can't help it. Can you guys move on for God's sake. i see nothing wrong with what Ous said and besides i haven't seen a single posting from Chongan refuting what he said. Please folks let's move on, cause you can't say anything to change what Chongan has done in the past.
Peace!
Mini
>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP. >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:40:29 -0400 > >Joe, you see, these are the kinds of things that sickens me at >times. You >opened your posting by saying that you do not want to be dragged >into the >mud. What are you trying to insinuate here? Where did this >mudslinging come >from? Who came here and start talking about people's personal lives >and >their drinking habits? Who was trying to portray Chongan as a >loose-canon >that goes around assaulting people? And you turn around and pretend >that I >was responsible for taking you to the gutter. AS I told you >yesterday, it >was your own choice to say what you said to Chongan. Stick to your >guns. >You should have counseled yourself a long time ago that we have a >bigger >problem back home staring at us. Had you convinced yourself of that >when it >mattered, you would not have jumped on Chongan the way you did or >support >ous Ngum in his despicable assault on Chongan. Instead, you would be >talking >about the crimes of Yankuba Touray, who for the first time was >pinned with >Human Rights violations. >As I said, say whatever you want about Chongan. But for Heaven's >sake, let >it be the truth. When you also say that Yaya and his cohorts are our >bigger >problem, also mean what you are saying. Don't say that in one >sentence and >in the other you go around attacking people that want to help get >rid of >Yaya; especially when those attacks add nothing to the struggle. Now >if you >prove that Chongan is a Human Rights violator, how would that help >us? On >the other hand, we in this struggle should realize that we cannot >have our >cake and eat it. We cannot expect these people to come out and try >to help >while we cherish every opportunity to try and put them down. Some >people can >take that, but others will not bother if they know such treatment >awaits >them when they want to join the struggle. Now I hope people are >beginning to >realize why certain soldiers are relunctant to join us. Most of >these people >have been forced to Yaya's camp or been made indifferent to the >plight of >our people. Why? Because of these types of unjustified attacks. >As Mballow said and I tried to explain the other day, the torture >narrated >by Chongan and Ebou Colly can NEVER be pinned on Chongan. Baabaa >Jobe was >incarcerated for a 'crime' somewhat analogous to the 'crime' Chongan >was >accused of. At that time, Chongan was among the five most powerful >Police >Officers in the country. Baabaa Jobe was kept opposite where Chongan >lived. >Have you ever heard Baabaa Jobe accuse Chongan of torture? Now, >Chongan did >some things that no one is proud of. Is it appropriate to bring that >up at >this stage and discourage the man from joining the struggle; >especially when >the unsubstantiated allegations against him are in no way comparable >to the >horrendous torture he was put under? >You are right I have no monopoly to this struggle. What made you >even say >that, I do NOT know. I have my own views about what I want to do. I >doggedly >follow that. Others are free to follow their own agenda. You can do >whatever >you want regarding this struggle. If I cannot support you, I leave >you >alone. I will NOT try to put you down. >I just hope from this exchange people now understand why certain >people are >reluctant to join the struggle. This kind of behavior will NOT deter >me, but >it can deter many. I shall continue to defend Chongan and will >challenge >anyone that would want to peddle lies that Chongan is worse than >Yankuba >Touray or committed more atrocities than these vermin. I do NOT >undermine >people I know are genuinely trying to help. >KB > > >>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP. >>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:02:30 -0000 >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the >Gambia-L >Web interface at: >http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to >write your full name and e-mail address. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------