Mr Jamba Jobe,

I'm sorry to butt in this discussion.  I find it very disturbing the manner you use to address Hamjatta.  I have no doubt that Saiks will not or have not addressed Hamjatta in such a manner.  It seems to me that you are driven by an unnecessary vitriol towards my friend. 

Saiks is a Koto i first encountered in the 80s and  he is someone i respect and have always admired and i am very impressed by his debate with Hamjatta.  Hamjatta, i have come to know and find very intelligent and hard working. Please use decorum in dealing with your fellow person.

I am a believer in social justice for everyone and opportunity for everyone (reason why i sympathise with PDOIS), but one thing i do know Marx was indeed a racist.  He was very deep in justifying the colonization of the so-called 'dark races' in order for them to evolve from their primitive ways.  Marx viewed non-whites with contempt and disdain.  I do not profess to understand Marxism or whatever but i am certain that i want to live in a Gambia where everyone can be given a chance to develop their potential. The sooner the APRC regime goes the sooner such a dream comes true.

Hamjatta, keep up the pursuit for intellectual clarity.  I admire your drive and as i always say to you here or in person or on the phone, you have great potential and i wish you all the best.

Hope Mr Jamba Jobe ,  you will not take this personal.

regards,

Mboge

>From: Samba Linguere <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: World Bank President Praises Cuba
>Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:11:05 -0000
>
>THIS IS AN ARTICLE FROM A CONCERNED PERSON, SULAYMAN JAMBA JOBE IN
>RESPONSE
>TO THE DEBATE BETWEEN HAMJATTA AND SAIKS.
>
>Hi, Saiks I can assure you that it is complete waste of time to
>continue to
>argue with a moron of Hamjatta's calibre; if this guy knew anything
>about
>the GREAT thinker Karl Marx he would not be engaged in such futile
>exercise
>trying to assassinate his character in such a bizarre manner. I have
>read
>many of Hamjatta's writings but I can assure you that the moron is
>suffering
>from intellectual complex. He spends his entire time coming up with
>cheap
>intellectual arguments. His discussions do never follow any cohesive
>pattern, all he does is intellectual masturbation. How can any
>serious
>intellectual argue that Karl Marx was a racist. Marx spent his
>entire life
>time espousing for social justice and all he can get is for
>nonentities like
>Hamjatta trying to distract us from his immense contribution to
>social
>science. This clearly confirms that Hamjatta is still a political
>toddler
>who is not well read to understand the essence of the doctrine of
>Karl MARX.
>Marx was the first to identify the bourgeoisie source of profit in
>the use
>of human beings for the self enrichment and perpetuation of a system
>that
>still enslaves the majority of the people. How can anybody take
>Hamjatta's
>intellectual acclaims seriously if he cannot simply understand the
>Class
>struggle that continues to enslave us. The struggle that besets us
>is
>essentially between the exploited and the exploiter; this is the ABC
>of
>politics which any serious political advocate ought to understand.
>Saiks, I
>would urge you to rest your case because Hamjatta is a spineless
>moron with
>no political clarity. He is a political toddler who thinks of
>himself as a
>highly acclaimed political analyst. He should go back to read to do
>justice
>to himself and the ideology of Karl Marx. There is no field of study
>that
>Marx did not influence. If he is a serious academic who wants to
>contribute
>to the advancement of the African people he must endeavour to read
>and
>understand what ALL great thinkers have said instead of behaving
>like a toad
>aping others. He must remember that aping others cost the frog its
>buttock.
>We must desist from seeing the world as dictated to us. We must be
>ready to
>embrace all thoughts and develop critical thinking and stop using
>hyperboles
>and velvety superlatives to impress. What we say should have
>substance
>rather than hoo haa. Those days are gone when the African is told so
>and so
>is a devil and we just believe. We must see the world through our
>own
>eyes,we would research, discover and come to a genuine conclusion.
>Hamjatta
>should realise that immense development were brought to this world
>as a
>direct result of Marxist teachings, his influence in world politics
>and
>economics shall always be a legacy of influence for posterity. The
>words
>enshrined on his epitaph sum up your type.PHILOSOPHERS HAVE
>INTERPRETED THE
>WORLD IN DIFFERENT WAYS; THE POINT HOWEVER, IS TO CHANGE IT. You can
>now
>ponder how to change, but you must read very open mindedly to
>impress; for
>now you sound very narrow and little minded. ADIEUS.
>
>Jamba Jobe.
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