Congrats Mr Mboge, these are the things worth bragging about. It's your sweat and tears. Mother Gambia is proud. > Mr Mboge, > Congratulations on graduation. Africa and Gambia are proud to have you as a > son. > Pasamba > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: momodou olly-mboge > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 11:00 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: My Take, Suma Kadu.- please let us move on > > > > > Teacher Gassama, > Yet again i wonder how you are allowed to keep your job at Gamtel. I struggled > to understand your argument yet again. Please help me my most erudite Engineer > with the criminal record from Canterbury. > You don't know zilch about me or many of the people you are debating with on > this forum. It seems that your deranged and twerpish brain membranes forces you > to churn out the most inchoate and incoherent squeals i ever heard. As it goes > with all the APRC zealots, rather than defend there record on human right > abuses, economic mismanagement and the various crimes they are perpetrating > against my people, they tend to portray an image that all the people opposing > Jammeh do not know about what obtained in the Gambia during the former > government. Mr Gassa, i abhoured Jawara's misrule and abuses. I have always > opposed Jawara and the PPP, however, in my book they fare much better than what > we have now. We are all familiar with the plight of the late Femi Jeng and many > others. We condemned the way Pa Hali Jammeh was harassed under the PPP regime > and so on. Now tell me Mr Gassama, are you serious in thinking that those who > deployed the bad governance and economic mismanagement of the Jawara years > should applaud the thuggery of the buffoon posturing as president. Come on my > teacher, come off the slumber. You can do better. > No sane person is disputing the need for investment in our fishing, energy and > the various sectors in order to uplift the plight our people. Our worry is how > does all these so-called investments fare on the day to day lives of the > ordinary Gambian. > I am in a celebratory mood these days and i do not want your croaking to affect > me. Why? because at a ceremony today at the School of Oriental and African > Studies(University of London), I was conferred a BA(Hon.) in History and my > certificate was presented to me by Lord Georfry Howe. I now join the growing > number of Gambians educating themselves regardless of the hurdles they have to > jump before they are successful. I am not showing off because i know you have > more accolades but i am really a happy man today. No benefit from Jawara nor > Jammeh. You are the one who benefitted from both systems. > I wish my fellow Gambians struggling to better their lot the all the best. > I hope and pray for a better Gambia where all talents are appreciated and > allowed to blossom. I wish my people salvation from the savagery of the Jammeh > regime. I pray that the Almighty deliver us from the hands of the brutes that > hijack our liberties and freedom. > God Bless the Gambia and Gambians. > For Mr Gassama, i wish you yet another horrible and miserable day. > Mboge > > > >From: Pamodou Gassama > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: My Take, Suma Kadu.- please let us move on > >Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:05:40 -0000 > > > >Momodou Olly-Mboge, > > > >But for Mr. jaiteh's council, I would have followed you to the > >gutter. > >However as it will not benefit anybody, I will forge on. > > > >On this list I acknowledged that the security forces did not handle > >the > >student demonstrations April 2000 properly. I also condemned the > >indemnity > >bill that was subsequently passed to indemnify those found to be > >culpable. I > >also said that President Jammeh or Isatou Njie Saidy bore ultimate > >responsibility as Commander in Chief/Acting Commander in chief of > >our > >security forces. > > > >Now honest Gambians, do you people remember Femi Jeng? Do you > >remember how > >he and dozens of others suffercated in a Banjul police cell in 1981? > >Did we > >ever get to know how those people actually died? Was there a > >postmortem/autposy to determine how they died? Don't their loved > >ones have a > >right to know what actually happened to them? Were they not > >Gambians? How > >many people were illegally incarcerated after the abortive coupe of > >1981? > >How many people were humiliated just for being opposed to the then > >PPP > >regime? How many died as a result of being tortured at Mile 2 and > >the depot > >hangers? Need I go on? > > > >Let's stop the hypocrisy. As far as I am concerned, my contribution > >on this > >list is only motivated by my wish for a better Gambia. If that was > >not my > >conviction I will not be wasting some of my valuable time here. If > >you > >people want to tell me that all our concerns are absolute and not > >relative, > >then I need not try to engage some of you. in my honest opinion, > >good > >governance, human rights, rule of law and all the other cliches are > >just > >processes. None of them is an event by itself. If that is the case, > >then > >who, amongst us has a monopoly of how this ought to be handled? Why > >do some > >people assume that they and only they have an opinion of what is > >best for > >The Gambia? What a mockery of our socalled democratic credentials if > >nobody > >is allowed to express any desenting view on anything? I, for one, > >ABSOLUTELY > >REFUSE!, Period. > > > >There are many well meaning Gambians and nonGambians living abroad > >who turn > >to places like the L for information. We therefore owe it to our > >people to > >tell them the truth. How can anybody expect to tell me that it is > >wrong to > >build schools, hospitals, roads, fish processing plants, bridges, > >procure > >generators, expand the air and seaports and then turn around telling > >me how > >much you love the Gambia and its people and expect me to believe it? > >Are > >some of you for real? For God's sake hate Jammeh and the APRC, if > >you must, > >but don't hate to the extent that you can no longer differentiate > >between > >yahya as the president and Yahya as an individual, the APRC and the > >Gambia > >government. On th eabove questions and issues, I await answers from > >any > >honest Gambian, not the myopic bigots. > > > >Have a good day, Gassa. > > > >PS: Thanks Mr. Jaiteh for your council. Its much appreciated. > >> > >>From: momodou olly-mboge > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > >> > > >>To: [log in to unmask] > >>Subject: Re: My Take, Suma Kadu.- please let us move on > >>Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:57:14 -0500 > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the > >Gambia-L > >Web interface at: > >http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >You may also send subscription requests to > >[log in to unmask] > >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to > >write your full name and e-mail address. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html You may also > send subscription requests to [log in to unmask] if you have > problems accessing the web interface and remember to write your full name and > e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Get > more from the Web. 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