Lamin Sympathy for what? By the way, no more comments to make on the Chongan issue Thank you and god bless. Sanusi --- Lamin Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Sanusi, > I certainlt sympathize with you. Yaya Jammeh is not > going any where this > October. I will bet you on that. No elections is > going to ouster President > Jammeh. > ON Chongan, Sam Sarr and Co., I recommend we discuss > all human right > violations. If we are discussing only after the > coup, what qualifies once a > terror like Chongan to play victim and condemn any > other terror? > > > > lamin Ceesay. > > > >From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing > list > ><[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP. > >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:29:59 +0100 > > > >Mr Jallow > > > >I think I will have to take some part of the blame > for > >"inflaming" this debate. Perhaps, I should have > stayed > >mute when Ous Ngum began his "counter attack". In > my > >book, I always have respect for people who are firm > >and fair in their actions. In my view, for Chongan, > to > >say no to a coup plot and tried to resist it speaks > >volumes for me and thats why I sympathised with him > to > >a greater degree. As I said in my previous emails, > If > >Gambia had 10 of Chongan's types during the > >insurrection, July 22 Takeover would have been > >crushed, period. Here I saw a man exercising his > >legitimate powers only to be betrayed by his > immediate > >boss Pa Sallah Jagne, who wasted no time in joining > >President Jawara and many others for The American > >Vessel. How sad this man (Chongan) had to be left > in > >such bizzarre situation. As mentioned before, if > Ebou > >Colly had kept quiet about the Coup, no one would > have > >had first hand information from Chongan about the > >prison conditions at Mile II prison. It is > therefore > >unfortunate that after Ebrima Chongan has made this > >sacrifice of enlightening us about their prison > >conditions, someone else tries to castigate him > about > >his past record. In my view, thats totally unfair > and > >I still stand by it, since most of them wanted to > hear > >from Chongan. > > > >Ous,Joe Sambou and many others are trying to make > >reference to Chongan's past record. No problem with > >that so long as the debate is about Human Rights > >violation under the PPP regime. In fact I am ready > to > >partcipate in this debate if it is on the table, > but > >to be honest with you what we were debating about > is > >how military personnel detained under Decree 2 of > the > >AFPRC dated July/August 1994 were harshly treated > at > >Mile II prison. Lets therefore take note of that > >before we lose track. > > > >On that note, I shall not make any more > contributions > >as it appears, a lot has been said and I wonder > >whether this helps us in the struggle to topple > Yahya > >Jammeh through the ballot-box. > > > >Come October 2001 Gambia must be free as Yahya must > go > > > >Have a wonderful morning. > > > >Sanusi. > > > >--- Ousman Jallow Bojang <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > In a > >message dated 7/11/01 2:15:11 AM Pacific > > > Daylight Time, > > > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > > > > > > > > "I hope you people understand that by focusing > on > > > > Chongan's past record as a soldier/police > officer > > > only > > > > makes things difficult for us. If this is the > > > approach > > > > then surely people like Sir Dawda K Jawara, OJ > > > Jallow > > > > and many others cannot speak out about Human > > > Rights > > > > violation in The Gambia, since we all know > what > > > > happened after the events of July 1981." > > > > > > Mr. Owens, > > > I cannot any more to your above words. This is > what > > > we should try to avoid. > > > Mr. Ngum raised some very important points > against > > > Chongan and to my surprise > > > they were substantiated by Mr. Joe Sambou. And > all > > > the Mr. Ngum is trying to > > > say is that for Mr. Chongan to be playing victim > > > when he was a recipient of > > > his own medication does not mean that he is > trying > > > to justify what happened > > > to Mr. Chongan. > > > And one thing I cannot understand is that > Chongan > > > was defending the "legal" > > > regime but those who are defending this regime > > > despite with all her faults > > > are called others. > > > Come on now. Let us all be real here. As brother > Ous > > > Ngum said, let us call > > > "a damn spade what it is." > > > > > > Ousman Bojang. > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of > > > postings, go to the Gambia-L > > > Web interface at: > > > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > > You may also send subscription requests to > > > [log in to unmask] > > > if you have problems accessing the web interface > and > > > remember to write your full name and e-mail > address. > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >____________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > >or your free @yahoo.ie address at > http://mail.yahoo.ie > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of > postings, go to the Gambia-L > >Web interface at: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >You may also send subscription requests to > >[log in to unmask] > >if you have problems accessing the web interface > and remember to write your > >full name and e-mail address. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of > postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface at: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > You may also send subscription requests to > [log in to unmask] > if you have problems accessing the web interface and > remember to write your full name and e-mail address. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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