Dampha,
I cannot agree with you more, if we look at Yayas record, for what it is, there is no way there could be a free and fair electctions in the Gambia without it being forced on him. The opposition should know without a doubt this is their golden opportunity to rise in peace against this insanity! If we let this opportunity slip away we will only have more disasterious ones left. We all know that our nation is highjacked and people like" Mr Soonset" dont believe that there is any possiblity for a collective uprising to topple this thieves so they join in to satisfy their own ends. At some point it will come down to he who dares most wins. Some group somehow must stand up to the bullies! We have seen dictators in other parts of the world overthrown overnight ,all we really need is enough media attention and a mass of less than 5,000 at the gates of State house with all the opposition united to send this bullies away with their tails in between their legs. It is that simple! When Yaya decided to fire one of his comrades back some months ago do you remember what the showing of a few disastified office workers did at the state house! An immediate reversal of his stupid orders.This guy maybe a fool but he is not brave by any stretch of human reasoning. All we really need to do is to stop criticizing each other to death and get organised. Support whoever and get this devil out of our peaceful motherland. Even his strongest allies know his inefficiencies. We must all get together former supporter of 'hisstupidity ' to die hard PPP to NCP, PDOIS, UDP, What have you and get this guy out of our highest and most respected office, he is a thieve he is unqualified it is our land so let the majority rise. Yaya is so arrogantly oriented he is unqualified to head a compound. People like Mr.Gassama are kidding they will not let Yaya head their households for a week! Those primitive days of kings rule are over this guy doesnt know a job from a dynasty! And educated fools buy into his insanity!
WHAT WE NEED IS SIMPLY ON THE SPOT COUNTING WHERE WE CAN ENSURE FAIRNESS OR A TOTAL BOYCOT OF ELECTIONS AND MASS RALLY AT THE DOORSTEPS OF STATE HOUSE WITH THE WORLDS EYE FOCUS ON THE GAMBIA. NOT ONLY WILL IT ENSURE OUR PEACE AND DEMOCRACY ,BUT ALL OF AFRICA WILL EMULATE THAT STAND. YAYA IS NO MORE THAN A TIRED DUCK READY TO BE PLUGGED CLEAN BY THE PEOPLES.
kalilu
>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: FWD:Counting on the Spot Is Just A Mere Dream - President Jammeh >Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:05:32 -0400 > >Mr. Manneh, I thank you as always for your contributions, especially >when it >comes to electioneering. You bring to the discourse invaluable >insights you >gained from experience. As others subscribers that already reacted >to your >post said, this issue about ‘on site’ counting should be a make or >break >issue. The Opposition should NOT compromise on this issue. It is >either on >the spot counting or no elections. And when we say no elections, we >have to >follow it up with another message to the morons running our country. >We have >to also tell them that come October (expiration of Yaya’s term), he >is going >to be evicted from the State House, whether we have elections or >not. The >vermin cannot hold the whole country hostage. > >I thank you for the pragmatic safeguards you brought up in order to >preempt >APRC shenanigans. I would however suggest that together with those >safeguards, we should also insist that the votes are counted on the >spot for >everyone to see. Three year olds know what the APRC is up to here. >We all >know that they want to steal ballots from Opposition boxes and put >them in >Yaya’s boxes. That’s all. The vermin want to steal the elections and >then >parade Gabriel Roberts on national TV to pretend that he is >declaring >legitimate results when we all know that the elections were rigged >at >gunpoint before the counting began. > >All this talk about security concerns is nonsense. Why would people >riot if >the ballots are counted on the spot? Yaya’s reason is ludicrous. >Despite >that the by-election in Kiang was stolen, UDP supporters NEVER >rioted when >the votes were counted on the spot and declared an APRC ‘winner’. No >disruption was reported in Kiang. Now, Baddibu on the other hand was >a >different kettle of fish. In Baddibu when the UDP candidate was >declared a >winner, the APRC supporters went berserk. They trespassed into the >compounds >of UDP supporters, attacked and insulted UDP militants in front of >their >children and wives. When the UDP militants beat up the APRC >trespassers, the >UDP supporters were arrested by the police and put in jail. The >magistrate >that saw this lawlessness and freed the UDP militants was fired from >his >job. > >Now, who in their right minds will blame the Opposition for this >lawlessness >and thuggery? How would centralizing the counting of ballots solve >this kind >of problem? Instead of IEC officials and pacifists in the country >addressing >APRC thugs, they are looking at the wrong places to solve our >problems. We >have a very simple problem if you ask me. We have thugs that have >nothing to >offer us clinging onto power by any means necessary. If they kill >people in >the process, so be it. If they have to steal ballots, so be it. The >best >APRC supporter CANNOT tell you what these High School drop-outs have >to >offer us. What experience does Yaya bring to the job? What did >Yankuba >Touray achieve before 1994? Why should Yaya (who ordered the >cold-blooded >slaughter of our children) lead us? Why should Baabaa Jobe >(internationally >proscribed criminal) be the most important ‘civil servant’ in the >country? >Why should the farmers vote for a government that has rendered them >poorer >than they were seven years ago? > >In short, the morons do NOT have an agenda to move the country >forward. All >they are good at, is stealing money from us to open Swiss Bank >Accounts and >send their wives to America to have babies. Manneh, when a >government does >NOT have an agenda and is faced with a formidable opposition that >has the >wherewithal to move the country forward, all the government can do >come >election time, is to steal the election. Now, it is up to the >Opposition to >ensure that the election is NOT stolen from under our nose. Fancy a >government that has Buba Baldeh as its chief praise-singer; Baldeh >who is >grateful to Yaya because Yaya did not kill him after the 1994 >‘coup’. Can >you believe the vermin? Here you have someone that feels indebted to >Yaya >because Yaya did not kill him. Yaya stole power from his government, >and he >is happy with the vermin. Geez. For people like Baldeh to enslave >themselves >this way, is mind-boggling to me. You will NEVER hear Baldeh >articulate an >APRC agenda that can move the country forward. All you hear him say >is that >the government he (Baldeh) worked for, was not good for us. The sad >thing >about this (only) AFPRC/APRC message, is that they are NOT running >against >PPP. Gambians are interested in an agenda that can move the country >forward. >People want to hear how High School drop-outs can remove them from >destitution. > >Manneh, thanks again for your contributions. >KB > > >>From: Lamin Manneh PF <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: FWD:Counting on the Spot Is Just A Mere Dream - >>President >> Jammeh >>Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 12:46:25 -0700 >> >>Mr. Dampha, it is a big disappointment that President Jammeh and >>the IEC >>rejects counting of ballots at a sport. Personally, i think it is a >>good >>idea to count at various polling stations because it is transparent >>and >>less >>costly. There should be no security concern if no kind of >>hooliganism is >>not >>in the making. The opposition parties, having heard all these >>treats coming >>from government, must be very careful and explore all worst case >>scenarios >>concerning on sport counting. Our political atmosphere and >>composition is >>slightly different from Senegal. Remember our lout groups like the >>July 22 >>movement, the army and NIA. These people are capable of doing >>anything. The >>police, army, intelligent agents and public media were all >>impartial and >>tolerant during the last presidential election in Senegal. Did you >>not >>smell >>a rat considering all the words coming the the APRC big wing? >> >>I would suggest that the opposition parties start working on >>alternatives >>to >>decentralized counting system because the IEC and Government will >>probably >>not bend. I strongly believe that if a united opposition front have >>polling >>and counting agents throughout the country, the APRC will have no >>way to >>rig >>the counting. It is extremely difficult, if not impossible to cheat >>elections on election day without being caught. Most irregularities >>happens >>before election day itself. The oppositions should also work on the >>kind of >>securities to put in place in order to avert any irregularities >>during the >>transportation of ballot boxes. I bet a competent Returning Officer >>will >>detect any vote rigging as soon as he/she started counting. >> >>One thing i will strongly recommend for next general elections is >>to >>install >>a hidden counting device in the ballot boxes that will count every >>single >>vote caste in each ballot box. This technology is possible since >>Gambia >>uses >>a marble ballot during election. The counting device will be hit >>sensitive >>engulfed in the bell inside the ballot drum. So instead having only >>the >>conventional bell to detect any double voting, a modified version >>can be >>installed to do the counting simultaneously. >> >>Finally, the way i conducted the last presidential election in >>Janjanbureh, >>i see no problem with centralized counting provided that polling >>agents are >>allowed to guide their political party's ballot boxes freely to >>counting >>centers and surrender them to their counting agents. >>Cheers >>Lamin PF Manneh > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the >Gambia-L >Web interface at: >http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >You may also send subscription requests to >[log in to unmask] >if you have problems accessing the web interface and remember to >write your full name and e-mail address. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------