Dampha,

I feel your pain. You may consider writing in Mandingo, wollof, jola, fula, serer, karoninka, sarahule, creole, aku, or other language that may be better understood by Kanteh and owens.

I wonder if it is their impatience to either read to understand, or consult the dictionary for words they may not be familiar with, or their short attention span, or sheer gauchery at being on the Maelstrom. Allahu Bas A'alam.

There are quite a few more on this Strom who suffer from incomplete comprehension of others' mail. This has resulted in unnecessary arguement, incessant cyclical debate over unimportant isde issues, and sheer waste of time. It is foolhardy to be enticed to respond to postings which indicate incomprehension of what they are responding to. So if you do me a favor and keep the thread of "Moving foreward" to make better use of your time, I, for one would be most appreciative.

A word of advice to garrulous participants here. If you are not comfortable with comprehension or composition in the English language, try using english alphabets to express in your own language what you wish to say. Of course that still does not cure the problem of non-comprehension of English mail. The solution to that problem is to sincerely request that the depositor of the culprit mail send a private mail to you in your language of choice.

After reading the last paragraph, you undertand why an exchange of words, either written or verbal, does not in itself achieve COMMUNICATION.

>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Jawara --- Come-back Kid? He is history!!!
>Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:03:52 -0400
>
>Bakary and Sanusi, I certainly would have appreciated you coming out
>clean
>and naming names. Rather than using vague terms like ‘some of our
>comrades
>in the opposition camp’ or addressing mails to ‘dear compatriots’, I
>would
>have preferred that you identify the people that are advocating
>Jawara’s
>return as a presidential candidate in the October elections. I would
>have
>let this slide as having nothing to do with me had your postings not
>used my
>heading. So as to eradicate any form of innuendo, I respectfully ask
>you to
>clarify your stance and state that you are NOT referring to me when
>you say
>that there are people in the Opposition advocating for Jawara to
>return as a
>presidential candidate in October.
>
>If my heading is what confused Bakary, let me just explain to him
>the
>genesis of that heading. That heading was NOT chosen to insinuate
>that
>Jawara was coming back to lead. That heading came directly from BBC
>Focus on
>Africa. Any body that bothered to read the body of my various pieces
>regarding the abrogation of Decree 89 would have no doubt as to my
>stance on
>who I think should lead.
>
>I resent the innuendo in your various pieces and would be grateful
>if you
>could kindly put the record straight by eliminating me from the
>comrades and
>compatriots you were addressing in your mails.
>KB
>
>
>>From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Jawara --- Come-back Kid? He is history!!!
>>Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:58:26 +0100
>>
>>Bakary
>>
>>Well done, You have definitely made my day. I hate to
>>say it but it appears some of our comrades in the
>>opposition camp are trying to advocate for Jawara's
>>return as Presidential Candidate for the October
>>Elections. The truth of the matter is that the Old man
>>ruled ther Gambia for thirty years. Of those thirty
>>years, so much has happened. Rather than us focusing
>>on those brave Second Republician Politicians-the
>>Darboes, Jattas. Sallahs and the Bah, we seem to be
>>looking on to Jawara as a saviour for our redemption.
>>Moreover, most of us fail to realise that Jawara has
>>been absent from the scene for almost 7 years and any
>>attempt to give him that mantle to lead the opposition
>>coalition would be suicidal. Believe me, Jawara is
>>seen by many as a moderate, but the reality is the
>>average Gambian believe that his return to politics
>>would be suicidal.
>> The only suggestion for us now is to draw up a
>>strategy for coalition against Yahya Jammeh. I would
>>propose that the Coalition should be lead by someone
>>who played little or no part in the last PPP
>>government. This is my take, any other proposals, I am
>>happy to discuss.
>>
>>Have a wonderful day.
>>
>>Sanusi.
>>
>>
>>--- Bakary Kanteh <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Dear
>>Compatriots,
>> > There is no chance for Sir Dawda to be the Gambian
>> > come-back kid, he could
>> > however be a 'come-back grandpa' to his dear
>> > homeland; he presided over for
>> > 30 years.As far as a vast majority of Gambians
>> > including myself are
>> > concerned, Jawara had his time and he cannot
>> > therefore bestow on the Gambia
>> > in the present or future what he has been unable to
>> > accomplish for the
>> > homeland during three decades of his reign.Like all
>> > human,he's got his
>> > strengths and weaknesses but he will always be
>> > remembered as the leader who
>> > squandered two golden opportunities(post 1965 and
>> > post 1981) to
>> > significantly improve the living conditions of
>> > Gambians.He is also the
>> > person who abdicated the presidency,albeit with CIA
>> > involvement to an
>> > unelected Yahya Jammeh and his band of vogabonds
>> > without any stance to
>> > defend constitutionality. 7 years after Sir Dawda
>> > reliquished the presidency
>> > and fled the Gambia, Gambians have endured and
>> > continue to struggle against
>> > a terrorist dictatorship that had committed evil
>> > acts of murders, broad
>> > daylight killings of peaceful student demonstrators,
>> > summary executions,
>> > torture, abductions and other sorts of human right
>> > violations.
>> > When history is to judge Sir Dawda's legacy; it
>> > should be: The leader who
>> > betrayed his people but for Yahya Jammeh it should
>> > be none other than 'the
>> > parasite who stabbed his people in the back and
>> > killed the innocent.' So Sir
>> > Dawda is history and yahya Jammeh is a vampire,who
>> > shall soon be confined to
>> > history as well.
>> >
>> > We must shatter the yoke of oppresion!
>> >
>> > BMK
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
>> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
>> > list
>> > ><[log in to unmask]>
>> > >To: [log in to unmask]
>> > >Subject: Re: Jawara --- Come-back Kid?
>> > >Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:28:01 -0400
>> > >
>> > >Gassama, you know you are lying when you said that
>> > Jawara said he wanted to
>> > >come back to lead the Opposition. As far as your
>> > other comments about the
>> > >implications of the security of the former
>> > president are concerned, I think
>> > >I will just ignore them. More substantive APRC
>> > stalwarts than yourself have
>> > >already spoken on the issue. Sedat Jobe said the
>> > politically correct thing
>> > >to say and Yankuba Touray, being the ignorant
>> > vermin he is, said the exact
>> > >opposite of what Sedat Jobe said to the
>> > international community. So, I
>> > >would
>> > >rather deal with those comments than your
>> > irrational rattling. So Jawara is
>> > >welcomed to come home and retire but NOT to say
>> > that Yaya should NOT lead
>> > >us? What kind of nonsense is this? You are just
>> > proving that Gambia is NOT
>> > >a
>> > >free country and Yaya’s utterances that Decree 89
>> > is history, is mere lip
>> > >service.
>> > >
>> > >If you sincerely believe in your contention that
>> > Jawara will hamper the
>> > >Opposition (especially UDP), then why NOT encourage
>> > him to come home so
>> > >that
>> > >APRC can win the elections? I thought you wanted
>> > APRC to win. Finally, I
>> > >take it that your previous hypothesis about NCP and
>> > UDP and PPP and NRP has
>> > >been discarded in the dustbin.
>> > >KB
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>From: Jungle Sunrise <[log in to unmask]>
>> > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
>> > list
>> > >><[log in to unmask]>
>> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
>> > >>Subject: Re: Jawara --- Come-back Kid?
>> > >>Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:08:31 +0000
>> > >>
>> > >>Dampha,
>> > >>
>> > >>Ex-president Jawara's security in The Gambia will
>> > only become an issue if
>> > >>and when he is allowed to return home. His recent
>> > pronouncement that he is
>> > >>willing to come back home to lead the opposition,
>> > if they so desire,
>> > >>knowing
>> > >>full well that he is not elligible to stand for
>> > election, in order to help
>> > >>us get rid of "this dictatorship", will certainly
>> > not help his case to
>> > >>return home. To me, it would have made more sense
>> > if he instead engaged
>> > >>the
>> > >>government constructively, in order for him to
>> > come and spend the rest of
>> > >>his days in peaceful retirement. If that were the
>> > case, the onus would
>> > >>have
>> > >>been on the government to provide with all the
>> > security and protocol
>> > >>befitting a former head of state. If he expects to
>> > be given a red carpet
>> > >>welcome and inspect a guard of honour, then he is
>> > dreaming. Any right
>> > >>thinking man would realise that no amount of
>> > pressure or threats will
>> > >>prevail on this government to allow him to come
>> > back home unconditionally
>> > >>while the APRC is still in power.
>> > >>
>> > >>As for the impact of his association with the
>> > opposition, particluarly the
>> > >>UDP, my instincts tell me that it will be counter
>> > productive. His
>> > >>mis-rule,
>> > >>refusal to willingly relinquish power when he had
>> > the chance, coupled with
>> > >>the rampant corruption that he presided upon
>> > whilst in power is only too
>> > >>fresh in the minds of many Gambians. It will also
>> > give credense to the
>> > >>claim
>> > >>by some that the UDP is a party of disgruntled
>> > elements whose main agenda
>> > >>is
>> > >>for the restoration of the PPP olygarchy. This
>> > view can be further
>> > >>supported
>> > >>by the recent appointment to the PPP interim
>> > committee of Shyngle Nyassi
>> > >>while still retaining his leadership of the UDP
>> > Youthwing.
>> > >>
>> > >>These are my views on the "comeback kid".
>> > >>
>> > >>Have a good day, Gassa.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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