Bro Elhajj Mustapha, I had tried not to address you on this issue but to be honest with you your incessant erratic approach and inconsistencies on Ebou Jallow saga is mind-boggling.The more posting you send about this issue,the more the trail of your double standards becomes more pronounced.It's just an observation and no hard feelings whatsoever from this end.Peace! Jobs. >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh >Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 02:28:45 +0100 > >Joe, >You are very correct, that i should not leave the burden of calling on the >thieves with you. But calling them thieves without having any proof infront >of >me, could be called as a deformation of character. A rational >decision-maker >always goes by the preponderance of the evidence. One must be able to proof >his >/ her case " beyond a reasonable doubt " that is to proof that leaves you >firmly >convinced of the defendant`s guilt. Joe, honestly you and I know who the >thieves >are in the Gambia. They all acquired their wealth infront of us, without >even >going out of the Gambia. How on earth did they get such wealth with the >small >salaries they were getting? Joe, >we as a "Ndongohs" frankly, you know all the thieves. You see Matarr >frankly >admitted that, but he is right to say that they did not get access to them >in >other forums like the G-L. We have all rights to follow all the thieves, >but let >us treat them equally the same way we are treating Ebou. > >Elhajj. > >Joe Sambou skrev: > > > Jabou and Elhajj, thanks for your exchange. However, Elhajj, you are a > > Gambian too. How come you want to leave us the burden of calling on all > > thieves that stole from our people. If you know of any, why wait for > > someone else to do the pointing? It should be incumbent on all of us to >do > > the pointing. Most of us, including yourself talked about Jammeh and >Jawara > > administration thieves, so I do not understand why you think we are >singling > > out Ebou. Like I said, no thief is immune. If you know of any others >that > > we should take on, please point them out. In the mean time, I will deal > > with Ebou Jallow. > > > > Chi Jaama > > > > Joe Sambou > > > > >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > > ><[log in to unmask]> > > >To: [log in to unmask] > > >Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh > > >Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:03:27 +0100 > > > > > >Jabou, > > >I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a thief ". In >my > > >opinion, > > >all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken more >than > > >what > > >Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to see >them > > >attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being >attacked. I > > >made > > >it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his >action, > > > but i > > >cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations. What > > >about the > > >others ? > > >Jabou, you know that Ebou did not give me a penny on this amount. I > > >repeatedly > > >said that i sympathize with Ebou, because of the antagonisms he faces > > >within the > > >Gambian community. But let people understand that, one can only >sympathize > > >with a > > >friend / relative / whatever / when they face difficulties, but you >cannot > > >change > > >the process of the truth. The truth will always be the truth! I hope >my > > >fellow > > >G-Lers will understand my positon not to misjudge me. Frankly, I did >not > > >regret > > >joining the L, because i met with old friends, met with new friends and > > >usually > > >get a lot of fun here. So, I highly appreciate this gathering, and also > > >respect > > >their views on our debates. It is not always that we will see eye to >eye on > > >issues, but it does make us to be enemies. Let us just disagree with > > >respect, not > > >to creat enemity between us. > > > > > >Happy Ramadan > > >Elhajj. > > > > > >Jabou Joh skrev: > > > > > > > Elhadj, > > > > > > > > I hope you are being sarcastic, because whether it was taken as Ebou >did > > >or > > > > taken in secret as other did, it all amounts to the same thing, and >as > > >far as > > > > I am concerned, they are all thieves, whether they took it during >the > > >Jawara > > > > Era or now in various forms. A thief is a thief, and no amount of > > >smoothing > > > > over can ever change that. If one takes what does not belong to >them, > > >and > > > > worse still, if what they took was entrusted to them on behalf of >the > > >people, > > > > or by the people it puts them into a category that no decent person > > >wants to > > > > belong to. > > > > > > > > Yes, mentioning the thievery practiced by our government officials >past > > >and > > > > present very much belongs on Gambia-L, and why? > > > > Because this is a gathering of Gambians, and if such talk does not > > >belong > > > > here, then where in heaven's name does it belong then, in the >closet? We > > >have > > > > done too much of that, always trying to hush hush the misdeeds of >those > > >who > > > > should exercise the highest moral character because they are the > > >guardians of > > > > what little assets we have, > > > > and all that this does is to send the message that one can do >anything > > >and > > > > get away with it. No more. If they do it, we will talk about it loud >and > > > > clear for the whole World to hear.No hard feelings Elhadj, and i am >sure > > >you > > > > will agree with me because i do believe you are a man of ethics, and > > >truth > > > > can never be the equivalent of falsehood as the holy Qur'an tells >us. > > > > > > > > Sister Jabou Joh > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/24/01 6:11:53 AM Central Standard Time, > > > > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jabou, > > > > > I am sorry to say, that the truth you have mentioned in your mail, > > >should > > > > > not be > > > > > mentioned on the Gambia-L. Ebou Jallow is the ONLY THIEF who has >ever > > > > > stolen the > > > > > coffers of our country. All the rest who took our coffers in the >past > > >37 > > > > > years > > > > > has borrowed what they took. We hope the so called truthful G-Lers > > >will ask > > > > > them, > > > > > when they will pay back our money? Some are running their >progressive > > > > > businesses, > > > > > and others are sitting in their Mansions. > > > > > > > > > > Elhajj > > > > > > > > > > Jabou Joh skrev: > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/23/2001 7:57:24 PM Central Standard Time, > > > > > > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Samba and co, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I mean it when I said Ebou is Man. To apologise after all he >siad > > >and > > > > > did > > > > > > > against Jammeh and this Government, it is unbelievable. I >could > > >not > > > > > beleive > > > > > > > my eyes when I saw the original letter. At first I thought it >was > > >fake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ebou Jallow has done so much damage to President Jammeh and >this > > > > > Government > > > > > > > and I do not think he will be forgivened.I think this is all a >CIA > > > > > plot. I > > > > > > > have know Ebou Jallow we had a good relation and we still do, >but > > >I just > > > > > > > hope he is not stupid enough to step his foot in this country. >He > > >will > > > > > be > > > > > > > tried and jailed. Even if President Jammeh forgives him, >others > > >would > > > > > not. > > > > > > > He has done wrong to others too, not only President Jammeh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He is a man. He knows what people would say about him and he >still > > >came > > > > > out > > > > > > > in public apologising. I think Ebou is being paid and >manipulated > > >by the > > > > > > > CIA. I might be wrong but this is my feeling. I do not see > > >anything that > > > > > > > would save Ebou Jallow from being punished for what he did if >he > > >comes > > > > > > > back. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PEACE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tombong > > > > > > > > > > > > But Tombong, > > > > > > > > > > > > With all due respect, Ebou Jallow has not done anything that >Jammeh > > >and co > > > > > > have not done, and on a much larger scale infact. Seems to me >that > > >he is > > > > > not > > > > > > the only one who needs to be tried and jailed, so this is a case >of > > >" the > > > > > pot > > > > > > calling the kettel black". 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