>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: The Gambian Chap/President at his threat again >Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 23:23:05 +0000 > >Fatou, thanks for you clarification. All things equal, your >comparison >between Jammeh's statement and the State Department's is valid and >reasonable. However, when you take Jammeh's statement and backtrack >to the >six feet deep threats, the student massacre, the summary killings >with no >explanations to date, the arrests and kidnappings with no trace of >the >victims for weeks and sometimes months, you cannot help but wonder >what he >might or might not do when he is uncomfortable for whatever reason. >Had >Gambians not experienced killings with Jammeh, I don't think any >would loose >sleep with his utterances. He may not kill 20,000 in his staged >coup >attempts, but two here, five there, adds up over time. Is it normal >for any >responsible leader to talk in terms of killing 20,000 if he had to >do it? >As both of know, there is no security threat in The Gambia, but >Jammeh and >Secret Service thugs. In the example you gave of the State >Department, we >all can link the cause and effect. However, in the case of Yaya, >Gambians >only see the effect with no reasonable explanations for the cause. >I hope >you do not take it that I'm jumping all over you. My comments are >made in >the spirit of a healthy dialogue. Let me know your thoughts. > >Chi Jaama > >Joe Sambou > > >>From: fatou camara <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: The Gambian Chap/President at his threat again >>Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:39:00 -0500 >> >>I hate writing on Gambia L especially when it comes to politics and >>about >>President Jammeh.The reason is a lot of people on this Forum jump >>into >>conclusion too soon and start judging people when they don't even >>know what >>they trying to say.This is one thing we all should try to avoid and >>communicate as matured people. >> >>When the president says that if he has to kill 20,000 people to >>make sure >>that 1million people stay safe he will happily do it,does not mean >>that he >>is going to kill 20,000 people.This is the same statement the >>American >>government made about terrorists hijacking their planes.That they >>will >>rather shoot at the plane and kill all the passengers than let it >>hit a >>place where it can kill Thousands. >>Am just trying to make this clear and thats it. >>Fatu Rone. >> >> >>>From: "Movement for restoration of democracy in Gambia [NY]" >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: The Gambian Chap/President at his threat again >>>Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:31:28 EST >>> >>>Culled from the Point: >>> >>>. President! Do Not Kill Anybody >>> >>>“Remember if I have to kill 20,000 Gambians to make sure that 1 >>>million >>>live >>>in peace, I will happily do it. Because that is my responsibility; >>>to make >>>sure the majority of Gambians live in peace.” The above >>>statement is >>>attributed to President Jammeh. When we read it, shivers ran >>>through our >>>spine because the statement is a dangerous one. What? Kill 20,000 >>>Gambians? >>>No! This is unbelievable! Is this your intention, Mr. President or >>>were >>>you >>>just ‘Open Calling’? If it was an ‘Open Call’, it was an >>>expensive >>>one. >>> >>>Why didn’t GRTS show us the video recording of your intervention >>>to >>>allow >>>us >>>read in your face whether you were making a firm promise or >>>‘Open >>>Calling’? >>>Even if we saw your face we wouldn’t have been able to clearly >>>read your >>>intention anyway. Now, let’s assume that you were really >>>serious. Mr. >>>President, how can someone who brags that he took over the country >>>without >>>a >>>chicken being slaughtered tell us now that he is ready to take the >>>lives >>>of >>>20,000 people? Your argument is that you want the others to live >>>in peace. >>>But how can 20,000 die and the others live in peace. >>> >>>That figure cannot be correct when checked against the extended >>>family >>>system >>>we have here. The 20,000 will have to be multiplied by 10 and that >>>gives >>>you >>>200,000 people and in some cases that figure should be multiplied >>>by 12 or >>>14. So, is this an ‘Open Call’? Mr. President, your government >>>should >>>ensure >>>that peace prevails by leading the country towards the path of >>>development >>>taking full cognisance of both the diversity of the people and our >>>quest >>>for >>>the common good. Differences are great because they stimulate us >>>to reach >>>new >>>frontiers in our resolve to bring out the best in our humanity. >>>Mr. >>>President! Do not kill any Gambian! “Thou Shall Not Kill” The >>>Bible >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>><>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<> >>> >>>To view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface >>>at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>>To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>>[log in to unmask] >>> >>><>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >>http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >> >><>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<> >> >>To view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface >>at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>[log in to unmask] >> >><>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<> > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ><>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<> > >To view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface >at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >[log in to unmask] > ><>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>