Matarr, I agree with your summation. If any thief comes to this to abuse our sensebilities, we shall let them know how we feel about them. Chi Jaama Joe Sambou >From: Matarr Amadou Sallah <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh >Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:34:31 +0100 > >ELHAJJ >I QUITE AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE ARE BIGGER THIEVES THAN EBOU. >THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THEY ARE NOT IN ANY FORUM WHERE IT CAN BE TAKEN UP >AND DISCUSSED AND WE CANNOT DISCUSS DIRECTLY WITH THEM. AS FOR EBOU HE IS A >MEMBER OF THE L- AND THAT MAKES IT POSSIBLEFOR US TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY >WITH HIM. PERSONALLY, I DONT KNOW EBOU AND IT DOESNT MATTER, WHAT HE DID IS >WRONG AND WE SHOULDN´T CONDOLE OR ENCOURAGE SUCH. > >PEACE BE WITH YOU >MATARR > > > >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh >>Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:14:08 +0100 >> >>Dave, >>You are right! It is the duty of every Gambian to attack our thieves. But >>be rest assured, that there >>are people who has stolen more than Ebou Jallow, and they are among the >>worst crooks on this planet. >> >>Elhajj >> >>You really got me! I have just eaten my couscous taking some pause to make >>my >>" Tarawih prayer " >> >>Dave Manneh skrev: >> >> > Elhaji Fye, >> > I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a thief >>". In my opinion, >> > all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken more >>than what >> > Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to see >>them >> > attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being >>attacked. I made >> > it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his >>action, but i >> > cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations. What >>about the >> > others ? >> > If you know who those folks are, what is stopping you from >>naming and shaming them. >> > It is equally your duty to the Gambian people to name those "bigger >>thieves" surely. >> > There is no bigger thief than Ebou, the guy is a creep, and he knows it >>too. >> > I told him two yrs ago that anytime he comes here with his shit, there >>will be >> > people who will be more than willing to shove it where it comes from, >>which is his poo hole. >> > >> > Let Ebou give us a freaking break, oK?? >> > Enjoy your Iftar, if you haven't already eaten >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of >> > Elhajj Mustapha Fye >> > Sent: 24 November 2001 09:03 >> > To: [log in to unmask] >> > Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh >> > >> > Jabou, >> > I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a thief ". In >>my >>opinion, >> > all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken more >>than what >> > Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to see >>them >> > attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being >>attacked. I made >> > it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his >>action, but i >> > cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations. What >>about the >> > others ? >> > Jabou, you know that Ebou did not give me a penny on this amount. I >>repeatedly >> > said that i sympathize with Ebou, because of the antagonisms he faces >>within the >> > Gambian community. But let people understand that, one can only >>sympathize with a >> > friend / relative / whatever / when they face difficulties, but you >>cannot change >> > the process of the truth. The truth will always be the truth! I hope >>my >>fellow >> > G-Lers will understand my positon not to misjudge me. Frankly, I did >>not regret >> > joining the L, because i met with old friends, met with new friends and >>usually >> > get a lot of fun here. So, I highly appreciate this gathering, and also >>respect >> > their views on our debates. It is not always that we will see eye to >>eye >>on >> > issues, but it does make us to be enemies. Let us just disagree with >>respect, not >> > to creat enemity between us. >> > >> > Happy Ramadan >> > Elhajj. >> > >> > Jabou Joh skrev: >> > >> > > Elhadj, >> > > >> > > I hope you are being sarcastic, because whether it was taken as Ebou >>did or >> > > taken in secret as other did, it all amounts to the same thing, and >>as >>far as >> > > I am concerned, they are all thieves, whether they took it during the >>Jawara >> > > Era or now in various forms. A thief is a thief, and no amount of >>smoothing >> > > over can ever change that. If one takes what does not belong to them, >>and >> > > worse still, if what they took was entrusted to them on behalf of the >>people, >> > > or by the people it puts them into a category that no decent person >>wants to >> > > belong to. >> > > >> > > Yes, mentioning the thievery practiced by our government officials >>past and >> > > present very much belongs on Gambia-L, and why? >> > > Because this is a gathering of Gambians, and if such talk does not >>belong >> > > here, then where in heaven's name does it belong then, in the closet? >>We have >> > > done too much of that, always trying to hush hush the misdeeds of >>those who >> > > should exercise the highest moral character because they are the >>guardians of >> > > what little assets we have, >> > > and all that this does is to send the message that one can do >>anything >>and >> > > get away with it. No more. If they do it, we will talk about it loud >>and >> > > clear for the whole World to hear.No hard feelings Elhadj, and i am >>sure you >> > > will agree with me because i do believe you are a man of ethics, and >>truth >> > > can never be the equivalent of falsehood as the holy Qur'an tells us. >> > > >> > > Sister Jabou Joh >> > > >> > > In a message dated 11/24/01 6:11:53 AM Central Standard Time, >> > > [log in to unmask] writes: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Jabou, >> > > > I am sorry to say, that the truth you have mentioned in your mail, >>should >> > > > not be >> > > > mentioned on the Gambia-L. Ebou Jallow is the ONLY THIEF who has >>ever >> > > > stolen the >> > > > coffers of our country. All the rest who took our coffers in the >>past 37 >> > > > years >> > > > has borrowed what they took. We hope the so called truthful G-Lers >>will ask >> > > > them, >> > > > when they will pay back our money? Some are running their >>progressive >> > > > businesses, >> > > > and others are sitting in their Mansions. >> > > > >> > > > Elhajj >> > > > >> > > > Jabou Joh skrev: >> > > > >> > > > > In a message dated 11/23/2001 7:57:24 PM Central Standard Time, >> > > > > [log in to unmask] writes: >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Samba and co, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I mean it when I said Ebou is Man. To apologise after all he >>siad and >> > > > did >> > > > > > against Jammeh and this Government, it is unbelievable. I could >>not >> > > > beleive >> > > > > > my eyes when I saw the original letter. At first I thought it >>was fake. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Ebou Jallow has done so much damage to President Jammeh and >>this >> > > > Government >> > > > > > and I do not think he will be forgivened.I think this is all a >>CIA >> > > > plot. I >> > > > > > have know Ebou Jallow we had a good relation and we still do, >>but I just >> > > > > > hope he is not stupid enough to step his foot in this country. >>He will >> > > > be >> > > > > > tried and jailed. Even if President Jammeh forgives him, others >>would >> > > > not. >> > > > > > He has done wrong to others too, not only President Jammeh. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > He is a man. He knows what people would say about him and he >>still came >> > > > out >> > > > > > in public apologising. I think Ebou is being paid and >>manipulated by the >> > > > > > CIA. I might be wrong but this is my feeling. I do not see >>anything that >> > > > > > would save Ebou Jallow from being punished for what he did if >>he >>comes >> > > > > > back. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > PEACE >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Tombong >> > > > > >> > > > > But Tombong, >> > > > > >> > > > > With all due respect, Ebou Jallow has not done anything that >>Jammeh and co >> > > > > have not done, and on a much larger scale infact. Seems to me >>that >>he is >> > > > not >> > > > > the only one who needs to be tried and jailed, so this is a case >>of " the >> > > > pot >> > > > > calling the kettel black". 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