Brother Malamin,

I would tend to agree with Yus on this subject. I celebrate Christmas not going to church but recprocrating with our christain brothers and praying that they will one day be good muslims too and avoid shirk.

We cannot ignore our relationships with even the jews .

I remember how we shared with our christian neighbors a peaceful coexistance which is part of our teachings too.

The problem with some of the scholars is that they depend very heavily on some weak hadiths which are narrated by third parties who are not authentic or verifiable. My bottom line on this is What does the holy Quran say about it (the UNDISPUTABLE source)

This is part of the reason we have so many divisions amongst us. Let us look at the things that are permissable and reasonable and practice them religiously.

I apologise if I have offended you or anyone else but we must be practical these days.

example

The prophet used camels in caravans to travel and we were allowed to break our fast if the journey was more than 40 miles . Nowadays that is a normal commute for many including me to go to work by driving  a car and for some who fly a lot ( to other major cities( one can fast and fly from DC to LA and not feel a thing.

Wasalaam

Habib

>From: Malamin Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Celebrating or Participating in Holidays of the Disbelievers
>Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:43:41 +0000
>
>Celebrating or Participating in Holidays of the Disbelievers
>Jamaal al-Din Zarabozo
>Al-Jumuah Magazine, Vol. 9 Issue 2 Vol. 9 Issue 2
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Is it permissible for Muslims to celebrate or participate in
>holidays such
>as Halloween, birthdays, and Christmas functions?
>
>Answer (By J. Zarabozo)
>
>The Prophet (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) made it very clear that
>in Islam
>there are two festivals or holidays. These are the Eid festivals.
>The
>celebrations and holidays of a people are from among the actions
>that most
>distinguish one people from another. In a Hadith in Sunan Abu Dawud,
>the
>Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "Whoever
>imitates
>(or resembles) a people is one of them." Therefore, it is not
>allowed for
>Muslims to participate in the holidays or celebrations of the
>non-Muslims.
>
>Shaikh al-Islam ibn Taimiya wrote in Iqtidha al-Sirat al-Mustaqeem
>(vol.1,
>p.470), "There are a number of points that must be considered when
>discussing (the non-Muslims') festivals and holidays. First,
>festivals and
>holidays are from the wide range of laws, ways, and rites that Allah
>(Subhaanu wa ta'ala) describes in the verse, "For every nation We
>have
>established rites that they follow," such as facing the Qiblah,
>prayer and
>fasting. There is no difference between joining them in their
>festivals and
>joining them in their other rites. Agreeing to their holiday is
>agreeing to
>infidelity (Kufr), and agreeing to some minor aspects (of their
>religion) is
>like agreeing to a branch of infidelity. In fact, the holidays and
>festivals
>are one of the major items that distinguishes their customs and
>laws, and
>are one of the most obvious of their rites. Agreeing to it is
>agreeing to
>one of the most specific of the acts of infidelity and one of the
>most
>blazon of their rituals. There is no doubt that agreeing to or being
>in
>accord with something of that nature can only lead to apostasy, in
>general,
>given its conditions"
>
>Indeed, beyond that, the scholars have even stated that it is not
>allowed
>for Muslims to congratulate the non-Muslims on their holidays or
>festivals.
>Ibn al-Qayyim in Ahkam Ahl al-Dhimma (vol. 1, p. 205) writes,
>"Giving
>congratulations on the special events that are specific to the
>disbelievers,
>such as congratulating them on their holidays by saying, "Blessed
>holiday
>for you" or other similar greetings, is considered forbidden by the
>agreement of the scholars. Even if the one who states it is free
>from any
>aspect of apostasy, it is still a forbidden act and it is the same
>as
>congratulating them upon their prostrations to the crucifix. In
>fact, that
>is one of the greatest sins in Allah's (Subhaanu wa ta'ala) sight.
>That is a
>greater sin than congratulating them for drinking wine, having
>illegal
>sexual intercourse and so on. Many of them who are not very
>religious do
>such things and they do not know how evil what they are doing really
>is.
>Whoever congratulates another human for any sin, heresy, or act of
>apostasy
>has exposed himself to the punishment and anger of Allah (Subhaanu
>wa
>ta'ala). The pious people from the early scholars would avoid
>congratulating
>the oppressors when they received positions of authority or the
>ignorant
>when they were given judicial or teaching positions in order to
>avoid the
>punishment of Allah (Subhaanu wa ta'ala) and falling from His Grace.
>If a
>person would be compelled to go to such people to repel any evil
>that he
>expected from him, only to speak well to him and to ask Allah
>(Subhaanu wa
>ta'ala) to guide him, there is nothing wrong with that."
>
>Ibn al-Qayyim has included a beneficial section mentioning the
>opinions of
>the scholars concerning this matter (Ahkam Ahl al-Dhikmma, vol. 2,
>p. 722).
>It shall be reproduced here with some abridgment: "In the same way
>that is
>not allowed for them to publicly (celebrate their holidays), it is
>not
>allowed for the Muslims to assist them for the holidays or to help
>them or
>to attend (their ceremonies) with them according to the agreement of
>the
>people of knowledge. In fact, the jurists who follow the four legal
>schools
>have made this clear in their books. Abu al-Qasim al-Tabari wrote,
>"It is
>not allowed for Muslims to attend their (the disbelievers') holidays
>and
>festivals because they are a type of evil falsehood. If the people
>of good
>mix with the people of evil without putting an end to what they are
>doing
>then they become like those who are pleased and influenced by the
>evil. And
>we fear falling into Allah's (Subhaanu wa ta'ala) anger because of
>their
>gathering."
>
>Then he stated relying on Abu Hatim's narration, that Amir ibn Murra
>said
>about the verse, "Those who do not witness falsehood," that "they do
>not
>assist the pope of idolatry in their idolatry nor do they associate
>with
>them." And al-Baihaqi recorded with a Sahih chain that Umar ibn
>al-Khattab
>said, "Do not learn the lingo of the foreigners and do not enter the
>polytheists' churches on the days of their holidays for (Allah's)
>anger
>descends upon them." And he also recorded with a Sahih chain that
>Abdullah
>ibn Umar stated, "Whoever stays in the lands of the foreigners and
>celebrates their New Year's Days (of the festivals of the
>disbelievers) and
>behaves like them until he dies, he shall be resurrected with them
>on the
>Day of Resurrection." And ibn al-Qayyim said, "Ibn al-Qasim disliked
>for a
>Muslim to give a Christian a present during his (the Christian's)
>holiday;
>he considered this action as honoring his (the Christian's) holiday
>and
>assisting him in disbelief. In the same way, it is forbidden for
>Muslims to
>sell Christians anything they may use in their holidays of meat,
>blood, or
>clothing, nor should he loan him an animal to ride on, nor help him
>with
>anything concerning his festival because all of that would be a way
>of
>dignifying their idolatry and helping them in their Kufr. It is a
>must for
>the rulers to prevent Muslims from doing such deeds. This is the
>opinion of
>Malik and others. And I do not know of any difference of opinion
>concerning
>this matter." These are his words from al-Wadhiha. And in the books
>of the
>students of Abu Hanifa it states, "Whoever gives them a present,
>during
>their holidays, of a watermelon, meaning by that to honor their
>holiday has
>committed act of Kufr (apostasy)."
>
>
>
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