Ron, If i read a great piece by anyone on this List, i will not hesitate to commend them for their time and willingness to share. When i read inconsistency in Lers postings and the issue is an area of interest i will not start looking around faces to observe who approves or who does not. My conscience is what guides me. I have NOT joined Gambia-L to make enemies. If along the way i make friends, i will be very happy. But making those friends does not mean i have to abandon my basic fundamental principles! Apparently you are struggling to bring consistency in an inconsistent stance. Well, suit yourself! But i definitely do not share yours or Ciise's views on Chongan this time! When you talk about an Achilles's heel is like insinuating i am Mr. Ciise's arch enemy. I am NOT! When Ciise is at his best, i do not reserve my commendation of him. Why can't i put in two cents where i disagree with him?? You wrote and i quote: "I am aware of Ngorr's high regard for Chongan, but I was hoping you would take him up on the invitation for all of us to express similar (unadulterated and unbalanced) "ecstasy" for other Gambians we wish to commend for whatever reason. For example, If you felt similarly about Jammeh or whoever else, I would not have been alarmed if you thanked and commended Jammeh for what you thought was Gallant on his part or deserved acknowledgement." If Ngorr had commended someone like Mustapha Danso, i will give him a chorus. A eulogy for Pa Hali Jammeh would have generated a clapping of hands. I do not share his 'ecstasy', as you call it, for Chongan. I have stated why. Infact i have gone a step further by bringing forth Chongan's positive qualities without antagonizing the guy. The fact that he(Chongan) was an instrument of coercion i maintain! I stand by my words! No budging here! Then you made reference to Jammeh and if i may wish to express similar sentiment on him like Ngorr did for Chongan. For your good self, Yaa Haruna, and for anybody on this List who cares to read on, i would like to make a couple of things clear: 1)I never liked The PPP and its leadership. In my own small ways i have tried and prayed to see to their downfall. I was in a political movement that called on all responsible Gambians at the time to join forces and bring down the 'Dictatorship' as i perceived Jawara and his government. 2)Jammeh responded to that call!!! When others were afraid of losing one thing or another, among which was DEAR LIFE, Jammeh answered the call! He was NO coward! 3)When he took power, it was his life Jammeh put on the line. For on that fateful day if any minute thing was to go wrong we all know what the result of that would have spelt for him and his group. 4)Jammeh became a COWARD the day he snuffed the lives of TWELVE young people! And to this day he does not have the courage to face the people and repent for his deeds. Since i came to the realization that indeed he must have been the one who gave those lethal orders, all the respect and love i had for him as a Leader, a Gambian and a Human-being just DIED! Yaya Jammeh IS NOT MY HERO!!! Some time ago one of the Jeng brothers, i guess it was Father Mose, wrote an interesting article, calling for the restoration of the revolution that was hijacked. I was in the middle of exams and had not enough time to put in a cent. A summary of which would have read: 'Yaya Jammeh is/was never a revolutionary. Thomas Sankara was'! Ron, if it was not for the April incident, i can, if i want to, come on Gambia-L and defend Jemus. Just like Pa Modou Gassama is doing. For Jammeh took over from a leader who brought in Senegalese soldiers to murder us in 1981. Incarcerating hundreds. That government murdered the brave and invincible Mustapha Danso and the legendary Pa Hali Jammeh. That was the government and its leadership who could not contain Junkungda Daffeh and Sanna Manneh when the duo exposed the biggest economic scandal of our Gambian times. The Gambia Commercial and Dev. Bank Scandal. A whole bank was rendered bankrupt, when we had a bunch of 'untouchables' basking in our meagre funds, proud to be called 'The Banjul Mafia'. This government wrecked our Gambia Co-operative Union with a net liability of D183million(One hundred and eighty-three million dalasis). Can you remember the balance in their books???(D47), Forty-seven dalasis!!! Forty pitiful seven dalasis!!!This is no joke and you know it is a fact!!! This was the government that allowed Sainey Darboe(Is he your relative, Ron?) to call Jahally Pacharr his 'Empire'. I was standing under his nose, with Dr. Jagne, director of the ADP II when he said the words. The list goes on. You know it, people who are not suffering from selective amnesia know it, the kidz know it!!! I don't share Mr. Gassama's enthusiasm. Dave Manneh spoke for me and the words are very clear! So please clear this in your mind, once and for all...I am NO Pro-Jammeh!!! I am NOT here to educate people. What i shared here is just a punch on your tangent board away from you! Ron, the world is at each and everybody's finger tips!!! That is not the issue. The question is: do you have the time and are you interested? Mr. Ngorr is not my enemy! I believe in what i wrote and i stand by my words. This is my last cent on this topic, hoping that i've not shocked the day lights out of you. Can we move on to the health issue? Sanyang. >From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: TODAY'S QUOTE -- Ebrima Ismaila Chongan >Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:21:46 +0000 > Lamin, Thanx for giving me the reason for your sidewinder of a reaction. I now understand that you were confronting Ngorr for an apparent inconsistency you may have observed on his part. Whether Ngorr was inconsistent or not, His commendation of Chongan may not have been the right posting to prod that achille's heel. That will only invite a back and forth that does not seem to have an ending when Chongan's shortcomings are linked to the problems of the Nation-State. It just seemed far-fetched. I am aware of Ngorr's high regard for Chongan, but I was hoping you would take him up on the invitation for all of us to express similar (unadulterated and unbalanced) "ecstacy" for other Gambians we wish to commend for whatever reason. For example, If you felt similarly about Jammeh or whoever else, I would not have been alarmed if you thanked and commended Jammeh for what you thought was Gallant on his part or deserved acknowledgement. I commended you for your intellect and generousity of spirit when you educate us in areas you seem to display a fair amount of proficiency in. I do not commend nor chastise you for your expressions of unbridled delight or ecstacy at another Gambian because you will have been speaking of your personal experience. If you didn't have method and reason for the joy, then I might read sycophantic tendency in it. Surely there must be a Gambian who deserves your commendation. Your reaction to this particular piece of Ngorr's was uncalled for and unhelpful. I urge you to reconsider it in that light. If you believe it to be well-placed, we wouldn't dwell on it. Let's move on to the invitation to discuss healthcare and its efficient delivery in Gambia. Thank you for obliging. The premise is that you have a budget of 5Million Dalasis and the responsibility for the delivery of Healthcare in Gambia. Assume you only have The Royal victoria and its attendant wards of Midwifery and immunization and the outfit in Bansang as public health facilities and a smattering of private and charitable clinics. You may begin by assessing the state of RVH, Bansang, and Garawol to identify opportunities for improvement. Not to Forrrrget (as Arafat would say) primary health and network of dispensaries. I hope I don't have to worry about a proclivity for dopamine. Les plus importants transformations sont les modifications "accidentelles". Yours truly - Haruna. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~