I am NOT a list manager nor am I  a referee but I am just a good family friend to all the parties involved here  just to try to mend the unintended or intended damages done and fix them for peace's sake. I am a sort of an INDEPENDENT  Moderator here to ensure sanity amongst us  as good old family friends, fellow Gambians and human Beings .

Having said that  I would only be able to help if I see hope and I do. No one is perfect and we all err many  times but the important thing is how do we rectify our mistakes and how to get out of our failures/downfalls without much damage while we can.

First and foremost ,please reconsider your positions and be flexible  to compromise  for peace's sake.

I have to catch up with my IN box and some urgent matters  that I must do (to earn my living ) then I will look of for your responses and willingness to listen and participate

Best regards

Habib Diab Ghanim.

 

>From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: An appeal to Gambia-l members >Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 06:09:25 +0200 > >Habib, >I would be very grateful, if you / anybody on the L can forward where I >insulted Yusupha Jow`s parents. I am very busy, and don`t really have >time to answer to these untruthful accusations against me. I would be >very grateful, if our computer experts can dig the archives and forward >where I said, >1" I don`t know Ebou Jallow ". >2. Where I insulted Yusupha`s parents. >Let the same experts be honest to forward where I was called a >"Hypocrite" and >"a liar". Habib, remember that I am a father and my children have read >it. >Bro Taf. > >Habib Ghanim skrev: > > > > > > > Brother Mustafa , Ebou and Yusufa > > > > I am busy today with my daughter's graduation and flying to chicago > > tomorrow so I will try to give you all my take on this . It requires > > a little (" listihar" ) laugh > > > > In the meam time I still insist that regardless of what Yus said his > > mom or dad should not have been insulted butthere is nothing that is > > broken that can not be fixed . So let us be positive > > > > Till next week > > > > Habib Diab Ghanim > > > > > > > > > > > > HDG>From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > > >To: [log in to unmask] > > >Subject: Re: An appeal to Gambia-l members > > >Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 07:40:52 +0200 > > > > > >" I would also add that if you live in a glass house do not throw > > stones > > >" > > > > > >Bro Habib, > > >The above mentioned proverb is the best and most truthful proverb I > > have > > >ever read on the G-L. Bro Habib, you should also remember that people > > > > >being personally attacked on this forum are also fathers and mothers > > to > > >some youngsters, > > >who could have been very nasty on the G-L, if they want to. So, let > > us > > >call a spade a spade! If people are personally attacked because of > > their > > >views, they have their full rights to defend themselves. We all know > > >each other very well! Gambia is a small country. Rudness is just a > > >T-shirt hanging in the air, which anybody can wear if he / she chose > > to > > >wear it. Ebou Jallow has ever respected me, and I see NO reason to > > >disrespect him because of his action. My conclusion remains the same, > > > > >that Ebou did the same thing so many Gambians did, Period. Extend my > > >warmest greetings to Mamma Kinza and Mulie. > > > > > >Elhajj > > > > > >Habib Ghanim skrev: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ebou,I would also add that if you live in a glass house do > > not > > > > throw stones.Inshallah, I hope that we all would meet and resolve > > our > > > > differences in a much calmer environment.I believe in the due > > process > > > > and strongly think that your contributions and those of Yuspha are > > > > > > beneficial in certain respects. You can state your position and > > stand > > > > for your beliefs and also have the right to change your stand > > anytime > > > > like anyone else. > > > > > > > > In our Advisory board of directors meetings monthly, we have to > > reach > > > > a consensus and make compromises every time plus debate the hot > > > > issues until late hours before we all (18 board members ) adjourn. > > > > > > Much more both sides must listen to each other despite their > > > > differences and try to convince each other why he or she is right. > > > > > > sometimes backing the position with facts,documents and even > > > > pictures. The important thing here is that at the end of the day > > we > > > > must agreed on even our disagreements for peace's sake without > > > > harming your values or beliefs > > > > > > > > Let us take for example here in Montgomery county . The Federal > > > > government wants to build an intercounty connector highway to go > > east > > > > west from Va through Montgomery and prince george's counties. The > > > > environmentalists oppose it vehemently because it meant many trees > > > > > > will be cut and some small streams will be damaged so alternatives > > > > > > were reached after FIVE years debate ( yes 5 yrs) . The deal was > > to > > > > expand the existing highways to add two extra lane on each side > > ,plus > > > > light rail to take any overflow and that will minimize the tree > > > > cutting ( if any was cut they would plant a new tree some where > > else > > > > in the state to replace them) bridges with wider sewage pipes to > > > > allow the current flow of the streams without damaging the paths . > > The > > > > home owners who lost their front yards were hansomely compensated > > ( > > > > they offered loosing their homes- only a few vs many with the > > original > > > > plan) > > > > > > > > I give this as an example just to show you that we can all meet > > half > > > > way and all be happy with the outcome. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i hope to see you al soon . maybe at the ALd picnic. I am easy to > > > > detect - with my shining bald head ( laugh) > > > > > > > > take care and good luck > > > > > > > > Habib diab Ghanim > > > > > > > > > > > > HDG>From: Ebou Jallow > > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > > > > >To: [log in to unmask] > > > > >Subject: Re: An appeal to Gambia-l members > > > > >Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:48:29 -0400 > > > > > > > > > >Koto Habib, > > > > > > > > > >You and Elhajj Mustapha Faye are two people I really do respect > > alot > > > > on > > > > >this list. Although our intentions to meet in person had never > > > > >materialized in the past nevertheless we both held each other in > > high > > > > > > > > >esteem. I knew Elhajj Mustapha way back in the Banjul, and I can > > bet > > > > >my life that he will never describe me as a disrespectful person. > > > > > > >I also do not believe anybody on this list has any right to > > slander > > > > my > > > > >name and subject me to some malicious rumors. I personally have > > > > >absolutely no inclination to turn nasty on anybody. However, I > > will > > > > >never hesitate to return any insult in kind. The law of mutual > > > > >reciprocity is very simple and tacit: DO NOT INSULT PEOPLE IF YOU > > NOT > > > > > > > > >WANT TO BE INSULTED. Furthermore, the Bible says that “judge > > > > not...for > > > > >the measure you give is the measure you get”. I believe this is a > > > > > > very > > > > >fair deal! Without the reciprocity of mutual respect civil > > society > > > > can > > > > >never never exist. Respect for human dignity is a providential > > bliss > > > > >that the Almighty God bequeaths to us to live like normal human > > > > beings. > > > > > > > > > >The essence of dialogue is reason, and not passions. And no > > > > >qualitative logic can ever arrest the destructiveness of > > unbridled > > > > >passions. I do sincerely hope though that we the younger members > > on > > > > >this list might be able to tap on the good auspices of your > > graceful > > > > >wisdom in the future. Please Habib do not hesitate to arbitrate > > > > >internecine exchanges before they turn rancorous and fetid. I for > > one > > > > > > > > >have pledge my disposition on such events on your good judgment. > > > > > > > > > >Hopefully, we shall see one of these days. > > > > > > > > > >Ebou Jallow > > > > > > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the > > > > Gambia-L Web interface > > > > >at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > > > >To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > > > > >[log in to unmask] > > > > > > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > > Click > > > > Here > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To > > > > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the > > Gambia-L > > > > Web interface at: > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > > > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the > > Gambia-L Web interface > > >at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > >To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > > >[log in to unmask] > > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click > > Here > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To > > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > > Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > > [log in to unmask] > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface >at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >[log in to unmask] > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~