Momodou
I thank you for shedding some light on what Asjorn mentioned in his piece a few days ago.
as regards verse 190 (bakara)
it was meant for wars - explained as follows
War is only permissible in self defense ,and under well defined limits .When undertaken ,it must be pushed with vigor ,but not relentlessly, but to restore peace and freedom for the worship of God. In any case strict limits must NOT be transgressed ; women,children,old and infirmed men must not be molested,Nor trees and crops cut down nor peace withheld when the enemy comes to terms
as to 191 ( bakara) - and slay them whenever you catch them etc---
This passage is illustrated by the events that happened at Hudaibiya in the 6 th year of the hijra , though the muslims were by this time a strong and influential community. Many of them were exiles from mecca,where the pagans had established an intolerant autocracy,persecuting muslims,preventing them from visiting their hmes and even keeping them out by force from performing the pilgrimage during the universally recognized period of truce. The pagans had no scruples in breaking faith etc.
In general ,Islam is a religion of peace ,goodwill ,mutual understanding and good faith. BUT it will not acquesce in wrong doing ,and it's men will hold their lives cheap and in defense of honour ,justice and the religion they hold sacred. They believe in courage ,obedience ,discipline,duty and a constant striving-jihad-by all means in their power ,physical,moral,intelectual and spiritual for the establishment of truth and righteousness. They know that war is EVIL but they will not finch from it if their honour demands it.The ideal is that a heroic virtue combined with unselfish gentleness and tenderness such as exemplified in the life of the prophet Muhamed (pbuh)
Lastly if they want to forcbly to prevent you from execising your sacred rites , then they have declaed war on your religion ,and it would be cowardise to ignore the chalenge or fail in rooting out tyranny.
I got these from the explainations as per the index on each verse and NOte not even a mention of the Jews at all------ here
It was definately taken out of context as sister Jabou and I mentioned earlier .
May Allah save us from the ignorant ones who twist these words for their personal agendas
Lest the subject of Jihad should be misunderstood ,it is taken up again in the story of Saul,Goliath and david,in contrast to the story of Jesus ( pbuh) section 32 bakara from 243 to253
Habib
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>Subject: Re: Tafsir of President Bush's Message /Mr Pembo
>Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:40:44 +0100
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>On 9 Nov 2002 at 21:52, Habib Ghanim wrote:
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> > Asjorn ,
> > The words of that so called false leader that
> > kill them where ever you find them are NOT(I repeat NOT) from the Quran
> > So this man must be high on dope and deserves to be in jail forever for
> > misrepresenting Islam . I hope the danish courts know the difference between
> > this mans's word and the sayings of the holy Quran. Best regards & Have a good
> > night Habib
> >
>
>Brother Habib and Asbjørn,
>The quote was taken from the holy Quran Al-Baqarah:191.
>They only wrote "And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from
>where they have turned you out:" instead of quoting the whole verse and the
>verse before and after. The Jewish community "Mosiac tro samfund" took this as
>a treat to the Danish Jews here and reported it to the police which has now led
>to the sentencing of one of the leaders of the party.
>
>I have had a chance to read this flyer but their anger was more against the
>current rulers of the Islamic countries and was distributed during the siege of
>Jennin. Their message is that they are against against any form of negotiations
>with the Israel and any form of recognition of the "Jewish state" is a treason.
>
>They are very extrimist and distribute their flyers among young muslim
>immigrants who are also frustrated by the rampant unemployment and racial
>discrimination.
>
>Here are the ful verses from the holy Quran:
>
>Al-Baqarah (sura II) verse 190:
>
>Fight in the Cause of Allah,
>Those who fight you,
>But do not transgress limits;
>For Allah loveth not transgressors.
>
> Al-Baqarah:191:
>
>And slay them
>Whereever ye catch them,
>And turn them out
>From where they have
>Turned you out;
>For tumult and opression
>Are worse than slaughter.
>But fight them not
>At the Sacred Mosque,
>Unless they (first)
>Fight you,
>Slay them. Such is the reward
>Of those who opress Faith.
>
> Al-Baqarah:1912:
>
>But if they cease,
>Allah is Oft-forgiving,
>Most Merciful
>
>
>Regards,
>Momodou Camara
>
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