>From: Ousman Gajigo <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: 'Human Shields' head for Iraq/Ousman >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:49:56 -0800 > >Jabou, >So far, all your arguments presented here are recycled materials. I >have not >read anything original from your posts. You better raised some >original >arguments because accusing me of regurgitating arguments. >I have already made my arguments on all the points you raised in >this email >and I don't intend to repeat myself over and over again. >I look forward to our next exchange on another topic. > >Ousman > > > > > >>From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: 'Human Shields' head for Iraq/Ousman >>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:59:37 EST >> >>In a message dated 1/28/03 7:54:54 PM Central Standard Time, >>[log in to unmask] writes: >> >>On Scott Ritter you wrote: >> >> > Why story got leaked now is immaterial. A person with such >>screwed up >>morals >> > has neither decency nor credibility. Watching the guy evade >>those >>questions >> > on CNN erased all doubts. >> > >> > >>Ousman, >>Scott Ritter got his assignment to lead the last weapons >>inspections >>because of his professional qualifications and that has never been >>in >>question then nor is it now. His performance on the inspection team >>and his >>assesments have not be discarded to anyones' knowledge. Correct me >>on that >>one if I am wrong. >> Therefore, this story is immaterial to this issue at hand and it >>can only >>be >>material if one is grasping at straws to make a case that has yet >>to be >>made. >> >> >>You also wrote: >> >>"So many people have voiced opinions on this matter and the facts >>about all >>the >>pros and cons are well established. All I have tried to do is >>points to >>those arguments that is there for everyone to see." >> >>Ousman, you have done much more than that. You have even gone as >>far as to >>brand those who oppose the war anti-american and most of them are >>Americans. >> >>You wrote: >> >> "The truth is that these people are nothing more than a bunch of >>rabid >>anti-Americans. It seems like they would support any dictator, no >>matter >>how >>terrible he is, if only he is against America. And there is nothing >>noble >>about these people risking their lives in what they believe." >> >> >>Where in the World did you get the information to support such a >>statement, >>and why and how can you declare that people's actions for what they >>believe >>in is not noble? >>One of the cornerstones of the constitution of the United States >>ais the >>right to have freedom of expression and to have the leadeship >>answerable to >>the people. No one is deemed un-american for that, and infact, it >>si what >>strengthens this country. It is not like most of Africa where >>sadly, all >>one >>has to do is tag oneself onto a political leader, sign the chorus >>and be >>rewarded with small favours >> >>You also wrote: >> >>"Where were they when Saddam was bringinghardships on his people >>through >>his >>war with Iran, his initiation of the Gulf War and countless >>internal >>repressions?" >> >>Why did you not ask where the U.S was when Saddam was fighting >>Iran? They >>were busy helping him, supplying him with biological weapons and >>material >>to >>amass his arsenal of weapons and he was the good guy then. The >>evidence >>proves that the acquisition of these same biological weapons were >>facilitated by the U.S and they were aware of Saddam using them on >>the >>Iranians and the Kurds. The very same Iranians who Bush named as a >>part of >>the Axis of evil, and also the same Iranians whose victimization >>with >>biological weapons and nerve gas he is now using as some of the >>justification >>for attacking Iraq. >> >>It is always a good idea to educate oneself regarding facts before >>making >>statements. This one is too important an issue with far reaching >>ramifications and cannot be decided by regurgitating others >>people's >>unsubstantiated rhetoric. >> >>Bush has never wanted to work with the U.N to resolve this issue >>abd it si >>common knowledge that it si only opposition by the Allies of the >>U.S as >>well >>as presure from people like Colin Powell that forced him to go the >>the U.N >>to >>seek a new resolution on the Iraqi situation. >>No sooner was that done, and even before the inspectors gave an >>initial >>report; when Bush started taunting the U.N, questioning their >>validity as >>an >>effective international body and basically saying that their effort >>will >>fail. >>Further, he went to the senate and the house and got them to pass a >>resolution granting the mandate to wage war, and all this from a >>man who >>said >>he will give the U.N inspections a chance. >> >>The position of people like me who oppose a war is that the one >>and only >>thing that needs to be established is concrete evidence that Iraq >>posses >>and >>is still making and hiding weapons of mass destruction, and this >>evidence >>has >>to be put out for the World to see before our children face the >>possibility >>of being sent to fight a war. >>Also, that the United Nations inspections have to be given a chance >>to run >>it's course. >>if the whole exercise is a deterrent rather than an excuse to wage >>war. >> >>There are millions of people around the World and in this country >>who share >>the opinion that concrete proof has to be provided to justify this >>war, and >>there is nothing arbitrary about this point. On the other hand, >>there is a >>lot of recycled rehtoric, and none of it can take the place of >>hard facts. >> >>However, after Bush's state of the Union speech last night, and >>with the >>amassing of U.S troops in the gulf, along with wverything this >>administration >>has done sine they started beating the war drums, there is no doubt >>that >>they >>will find a way to attack Iraq and all the blood thirsty folks and >>their >>cheerleaders will soon have enouhg blood and guts splattered all >>over the >>Arabian peninsula to satify their lusts. >> >>Some of us in the World think there is always an alternative ot war >>and >>that >>those without sinister intentions can always pursue that course >>with far >>better results for the rest of humanity. >>I hope that you are a U.S citizen Ousman, and that if your country >>should >>call on you, you will enlist in the armed forces. >> >>Jabou Joh >> >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the >>Gambia-L >>Web interface >>at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>[log in to unmask] >> >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the >Gambia-L Web interface >at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >[log in to unmask] > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~