Abdou I´m afraid you are wrong Matarr >From: "A.B. Sidibe" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: FAMILY TIES >Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:42:22 -0800 > >Who is my great-granfather? >Cheers! >Abdou > > >--- Matarr Amadou Sallah <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hello Everyone > > Here is somrthing to think about. > > > > Peter´s son is the father-in-law > > to the husband of your father´s sister. > > How are you related to Peter or what is Peter > > to you? > > > > Matarr > > > > > > > > > > >From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing > > list > > ><[log in to unmask]> > > >To: [log in to unmask] > > >Subject: EUobserver: New rules for third-country > > family reunification > > >Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:56:43 +0100 > > > > > >Hi! > > > > > >This news item seems quite interesting for some > > reasons. The Scandinavian > > >countries, as opposed to the rest of Europe have > > been sneaking in 'laws' > > >that require DNA testing between parents and their > > offspring in order to > > >prove biological ties in family reunification > > applications. > > > > > >These are not 'laws' passed by parliament but > > rather 'regulations' crafted > > >by Immigration Authorities which allow them to > > 'offer' such tests to > > >applicants in family reunification cases; an > > 'offer' you don't dare refuse, > > >as that spells automatic rejection of your > > application. > > > > > >In Norway, among the list of twelve countries whose > > nationals are availed > > >this special 'offer,' ten are African: Somalia, > > Ethiopia, Sierra Leone, > > >Liberia, Nigeria, Ghana, Gambia and Cameroon; the > > other two non-African > > >countries being Afghanistan and Irak. > > > > > >That's not all, the applicants have to travel to > > the Norwegian embassy > > >nearest to their home country, which in Gambia's > > case for example, would > > >mean Abidjan in civil war-engulfed Ivory Coast and > > at the applicant's own > > >cost too, in order to give blood specimen. Specimen > > which is then supposed > > >to be dispatched to Oslo for analysis. > > > > > >Consular outpost like the one we have in the Gambia > > are not accepted as > > >being good enough to collect such specimen, an > > exercise than can be carried > > >out by even an auxillary nurse. > > > > > >It is also supposed to take three months from the > > collection of the > > >specimen till the result is made available, a time > > frame which does not > > >included the six months that it is normally > > supposed to take to process > > >such applications. > > > > > >One is naturally led to wonder why only certain > > hand-picked countries are > > >made this unethical 'offer'? > > > > > >Well according to the Norwegian Immigration > > Authority, > > >Utlendingsdirektoratet (UDI), the validity of > > documents from these > > >countries is questionable since they are known for > > their rampant > > >corruption. One concrete example they proffered was > > that a mother can just > > >walk into a health centre and quote a date of birth > > of a child, name of > > >parents, and be issued with a birth certificate. > > > > > >Question is, why would these same authorities that > > accept other documents > > >from these countries without question, choose to > > question the validity of > > >only birth certificates? Why are marriage > > certificates exempt, for example? > > >The whole scheme is suspect at best. > > > > > >As usual, there has not been any concerted response > > from the communities > > >involved. Some from the affected communities have > > even been blaming the > > >victims as there has been a general attitude of: > > 'It does not affect me;' > > >while some have refuse outright to append their > > signatures to a petition > > >intended to deliver some form of protest, set in > > motion by certain > > >concerned individuals. First it was only the > > Somalians, now there are nine > > >more African nationalities; today it is DNA > > testing, tomorrow? > > > > > >My understanding from conversations with Gambians > > resident in both Sweden > > >and Denmark, is that these countries instituted not > > only 'laws' that > > >'offer' DNA tests but more far-reaching and hostile > > one towards immigrants. > > >I just could not believe my ears when Momodou > > Camara explained to me the > > >length to which the Danish Immigration Authority > > has gone in order to > > >frustrate efforts by 'foreigners,' even those > > holding Danish nationality, > > >to have even their wives join them in Denmark. > > > > > >For the benefit of those who read > > Norwegian/Danish/Swedish, the circular > > >from UDI on DNA testing can be accessed at: > > > > > > >http://193.71.11.42/dokumenter/doc/rundskriv/2002/rs200229.doc > > > > > >Below is text of the petition. Those resident in > > Norway who wish to append > > >their signatures to it can also sign electronically > > by sending an email > > >with the heading "Petition" to: [log in to unmask] > > > > > >Gjenopprett offentlig tillit til > > Utlendingsdirektoratet (UDI)! > > > > > >Familiegjenforening - en menneskerett! > > > > > > > > > > > >Vi som bidrar med våre underskrifter er veldig > > bekymret for hvordan > > >Utlendingsdirektoratet (UDI) fungerer og hvordan > > UDI behandler de som søker > > >om familiegjenforening eller om besøksvisum for å > > møte slekt og venner > > >bosatt i Norge. De siste årene har det kommet > > mange klager men få > > >endringer. Faktisk ser det ut som om forholdene > > har forverret seg. > > > > > > > > > > > >Vi ber om at > > > > > > > > > > > > a.. norske myndigheter baserer sin > > saksbehandling på bedre kjennskap til > > >lokale institusjoner for ekteskapsinngåelse og > > lokale forståelser av > > >familie og slektskap. > > > b.. DNA-tester ikke tas i bruk i > > familiegjenforeningssaker, først og > > >fremst fordi DNA ikke er det viktigste kriteriet > > for familedannelse, > > >hverken i Norge eller landende innvandrere og > > asylsøkere i Norge kommer > > >fra. > > > c.. minsteinntekt på 165 000 kroner i året som > > forutsetning for > > >familiegjenforening revurderes, barns behov for > > oppvekst i samvær med sine > > >foreldre blir ikke mindre av at foreldrene har en > > lav inntekt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Navn > > > Navn > > > > > > 1. > > > > > > 13. > > > > > > > > > 2. > > > > > > 14. > > > > > > > > > 3. > > >=== message truncated === > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! 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