Brother Malanding, I wish I could bother not to do that. I think it is important to clear the air of such messy glibs. Even as I write, my mistake has been construed on the other list as tacit approval of Mr. Ebou Jallow's view on the Foroyaa editorial - kind of sensational, isn't it? Besides, reading from my private response to the author, the issues raised bring new and very interesting twists on the Imam Fatty - President Jammeh imbroglio, arguments which I sincerely believe should be publicly shared. Many thanks, Dr. Jaiteh Momodou S Sidibeh ---- Original Message ----- From: "Malanding Jaiteh" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:59 PM Subject: Re: FOROYAA Editorial - July 22nd Celebrations > Mr. Sidibeh, > I would not bother to pass on the private message to the entire list. Trust > me, the L has seen more embarassing private messages before and yours will > not be the last. I guess it goes to show how private the Internet is! > > > Malanding > > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Momodou S Sidibeh > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:33 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: FOROYAA Editorial - July 22nd Celebrations > > > MMmmm, > > Even this clarification is not clear enough. I had opened two messages and > simply replied the wrong one; and of course the private message I received > was not from Ebou Jallow. With the author's kind permission I will post it > to Gambia-L, and as you can see I have myself exposed matters (purely > relating to Stockholmers) that need not be known publicly as yet. > > Again my apologies > > Momodou S Sidibeh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Momodou S Sidibeh" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:01 PM > Subject: Re: FOROYAA Editorial - July 22nd Celebrations > > > Impossibly and totally wrong, > > This message was supposed to be an answer to a private message. How it found > its way to the Gambia-L as answer to this named article, is just too weared > to discuss. > My sincere apologies > > Momodou S Sidibeh > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Momodou S Sidibeh" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:55 PM > Subject: Re: FOROYAA Editorial - July 22nd Celebrations > > > Brother, > > Honestly, > Your piece is so good that I am toying with the idea of editing it and > sending it to the list. I agree with you that many active debaters tend to > be emotional. But that is partly because those like yourself with such > erudition and clarity of mind often do not participate in the debates, a > participation that would help all of us grow from rampant emotionalism. > > Please edit this piece and post it to the list. It will do all of us much > good. > > I am just from work and for now I have promised myself that I will complete > the draft constitution of our dormant Solidarity Forum by the coming > week-end. > Many thanks, > > Modou. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ebou Jallow" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:44 PM > Subject: Re: FOROYAA Editorial - July 22nd Celebrations > > > I will defer with the PDOIS perspective on the 22nd July celebrations. > Never mind your party gripes about praise singers who have played a > role in our cultural history...a role far more significant than > your "scientific" socialist dogma can ever acknowledge. Let's just > analyze one of your lopsided propositions about state security: > > "President Jammeh should realize that the best form of state security is > political maturity and integrity. When an office has integrity, when it > is held in high esteem it receive protection from the people. When an > office is brought into disrepute it becomes vulnerable." > > What in the world is your party definition of "political maturity" > and "integrity"? What do these purported virtues have to do with the > security of the state? We have learned harsh lessons in history from > political philosophers like Hobbes, Machiavelli and even Marx himself > that a political citizenry in reality is nasty and brutish. And > governments have to exact necessary measures to establish their > authority to secure peace and order. But no, a government by PDOIS > will lecture us that the state shall rely on the good will of the man > in the street to bring order out of chaos. The PDOIS will then proceed > with a far reaching agenda to define the meaning of "integrity" to the > Gambian citizens. Does this not sound like the precursor to another > communist dictatorship? This is the agenda that all socialists, > including PDOIS, believe in-political evolution through "political > education" not to secure individual property rights but a collectivist > economy by which they, the socialist elites of the PDOIS will dictate > to ordinary folks to wear the same Jackson-Five Afro haircut, and pay > heavy taxes to the state just like Halifa and Seedia are "surrendering" > their hard earned incomes to their constituencies. This in effect is > the socialist agenda and the vision that PDOIS has for the Gambia. > > The 22nd July celebrations amongst other things does jubilate the few > positive achievements of the APRC in many areas of Gambian life. The > United States of America celebrates 4th July every year to commemorate > an armed revolt against a political order of the day some 200 years > ago. In Europe, France celebrates every year the bloodiest revolution > in mankind's history. In Asia, China does the same every year. Tell > me, why not the Gambia when the legends of a similar history are still > in power and still alive? What all these celebrations have in common > is a salient message. A message that glorifies the human spirit (not > men in army uniforms) that triumphs doubt and fear with a solid moral > fortitude. A message that further teaches that if you want to lead Mr. > Opposition Leaders, you must be a real MAN with guts and not just > academic degrees. > > Ebou > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=mbia-l > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface > at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=mbia-l > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface > at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=mbia-l > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface > at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=mbia-l > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface > at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=gambia-l > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface > at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~