Nancy, thanks for your response. You are right there is nothing wrong with loosing a job. However, please read what I said in context. The man said he left a job in the US, and I am telling you he did not a that is a fact. What is wrong with me setting the record straight? Secondly, Amadou was an expert on Yaya all the way leading to the 2001 Presidential elections and he switched because of his lack of principles and I am in good company to challenge his principles. Folks jumped on him from all corners for that too, so I am surprised that you are reacting to it now. I don't know about you, but those of us who has seen Amadou run here and there calling Jammeh all sorts of tyrannical names saw him as dishonest and a disgrace as a political scientist to give that poor excuse he gave to be in bed with Yaya. Yes, he has a right to free association, so do we as citizens have a right to attack the principles of any, Amadou included. Why is it that we as Africans always narrowly view any that questioned those in office as Jealous? Why? Why does it have to be tearing down someone and not taking folks accountable for their positions. If Amadou's recent history and his new position did not exist, you and I will not be talking about him as I write. This is the reason why tyranny and corruption is rife with us, because there are those that will rationalize even the indefensible. You may be among the few that believe that Yaya is good for the country and more power in denial to you. IF writing about Jammeh, Amadou, et al is hating them to you then I say you are grossly mistaken. What some of us are going to see to is that none will loot us and murder us to death without it being discussed and fought against. As for: "Yeah,Mafy migth be called 'Mr soft ware engineer' as you decided to name him." Well, that was his signature when he was with us on-line and not my immagination. It looks to me you are not even familiar with the writings of both Amadou and Mafy. "How come you get to know the number of Afra sesions one has to attend inorder to get a job?.Are you dieing to attend one of the sessions.? There we go again, do you really believe those of us taking Jammeh on need him for anything? As I write whether you agree with me or not, your and my country is almost crippled. Do you really believe the Central Bank crisis is not as bad as we portray it. Even with the hundreds of millions of Dalasis missing and folks in custody, we still have folks saying it is a fabrication on our part. We are our worst enemy I see. FYI, Yaya did not arrest these folks because of no Operation nothing, but because the IMF and crew squized him for his gross incompetence. As for Baba Jobe, contrary to what someone just wrote, I am of the opinion that both he and Yaya belong in jail. What Baba Jobe stole combined, is a drop in the bucket compared to a fifth of the damage Yaya put on you and I. Do you care to know how Yaya got a Plane, when the country has none? Are you bothered about the almost half abillion $s crude oil I and II that was diverted? Are you concerned that the animals in Yaya's zoo are fully fed while Gambians cannot afford two square meals daily? Are you interested in knowing about the Millions of $s that Yaya and Ebou Jallow stole? How about the private Swiss bank accounts? Don't you think all the moneys stollen from our coffers is the reason why our nation is where it is today? How about the murders? I'm sure you are aware of the April 10 massacre? Koro Ceesay, etc. If you are concerned about these and much more, then I think you and I are in the same camp and you are just afraid to voice it out. However, if you do not care about these things, well enjoy your party in the Gambia. Nancy, you are entitled to your opinion about the affairs of our country just like any other. You may do well, but if you are truthful to yourself, you know that ours is ruined. If you want to believe that Amadou is there to change anything, then I have a Ram to sell you on the moon. Sorry, I cannot respond to all the points you raised but kindly point any that are more salient for me to elaborate upon. I'm glad you are speaking up though. Do the same when the nation cries and not just when Amadou or Mafy are taken on. To you they are the best thing that ever happened to Gambia after "Mangoro", and to some of us sycophancy. Since you are in tuned with Mafy's work as Minister, could you share with your fellow Gambians the good things he's done since his tennure, aside from receiving a paycheck from the tax payers? As acitizen, don't you think it is a legitimate question. Please indulge us. Those days are gone when we keep mute while folks take us to the gutters. Chi Jaama Joe Sambou >From: Nancy Waggeh <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Amadou Scattred Janneh - From An Expert On Jammeh To A > Sycophant of Jammeh >Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 07:30:30 -0500 > >Folks, > > it is a pity that some of us in the forum take pride in bring down >people.Whats wrong in Accepting a post.If Ams is given a chance to >straigthen out the day to day affairs of the communication ministry,why >shouldn't he accept?.Whats shameful of lossing a job as our learned bro. >Joe puts it?I can bet the last dime in my pocket that he has lost one or >two jobs.Things change and peoples' views change.Ams left a job at the >American Embassy which pays far more than what the Gambia Government >offered him.If he was lying about teaching in the second University >accordinng to his interview atleast it is true that he was a lecturer and >that is enough. He Aceepted the job cause he f >elt that he has a role to >play in changing things if given the chance. >How come you get to know the number of Afra sesions one has to attend >inorder to get a job?.Are you dieing to attend one of the sessions.? He >had atleast a PhD and some experience in journalism, is that not enough?Are >you jealous of the fact that he had the chance to attend some hence landed >himeself a job?.Or are you simply dieing of envy and jealousy,Cause i know >that if you were offered a job by the same regime you will not stop to >think but to jump into the next avalible fligth.Yaya migth have his own >problems but he did us some good as the jawara regime.How come people like >you who have been shouting that yaya never censors Baba Jobe and Lang >conteh; when he did and charged baba the thief,murderer and rebel as you >used to put in a court of law; you turn out to see him as a saint and that >what yaya did was not fair.That he betrayed the frien >dship they shared.This >has nothing to do with friendship.It is all about the good of the >nation.What kind of satisfaction do you want?.Is it Yaya,the country or who >ever sits in a position of power that you hate.?I know that if you were >given the chance you will not do half of what he has done in terms of >development.No human being is perfect.Even the most powerful man in the >world has his own share.He alone is not the government.I know that you will >take three fold as what he toke if given the chance to serve as the >president in 48 hours.Don't tell me that you are not interested because >there is nothing better than staying and serving your nation.In any >capacity it migth be.Take a two week holiday and come and see for your >self.Stop relying on your so called insider.I know he does not exist.One >does not need to be a rocket scientist so as to know that some of your >facts are mere fabricates.There migth be corruption in the c >entral bank but >the way some of you write about the country is very frigtening.Investors >would surely run away from the country if they get to read some of what is >posted in the main page.The gambia migth be facing hard times,serious >economic instability but that does not mean that we are scrambling for >food.Atleast we are better of than a host of other nations.Pray for >peace.Yaya alone is not in the country.When last have you visited the >country?Don't tell me that an insider told you cause intelligent people >don't rely on second hand information. >Yeah,Mafy migth be called 'Mr soft ware engineer' as you decided to name >him.But he went to school to earn that name.He is not another quack >engineer and by the way what title do you have?Tell me ,i am dieing to >know.They had the mind to turn a blind eye to a dolar paid job,packed their >belongings and decided to come and do some thing worthwhile for the >country.If > it was money ;they could have stayed in the US especially Mafy >and continue with his job in Delta Airways.Don't tell me that he lost his >job and that was why he left.Even if he lost his job as you migth not wait >to put it but then he could have stayed in the states.Stop criticing people >brother man.Get a life and open your eyes. >laters. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=gambia-l >To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >[log in to unmask] > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >Web interface >at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~