Jabou: What in your estimation do you suppose is the reason he made Kanilai the > new capital? Just randon selection and money to spare in a coutry as poor as > Gambia? I doubt it very much. Musa: JAbou, like you I do not think mooving things to Kanilai is smart politics, or smart anything. Like I tried to say in the previous piece, this is about Jammeh, and he believes his home town should reflect Jammeh the egomaniac. JAbou: What abotu his meddling in Casamance and the allegations of stashing of arms? > Another random occurrence? Musa: Jabou, like you I am not the least convince that he is only getting involve in Cassanance to bring about peace. It is even plausible to speculate that his sympathy lies with the casamance rebels - and that his ethnicty is a factor. Jabou, it is important for all of us to put the Jammeh problem in its proper context: this is all about Jammeh, utilizing all of his survival political instincts, and will use all of us to maintain the status quo. Thanks again for your piece. Musa Jeng > > From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> > Date: 2004/04/03 Sat PM 09:00:11 EST > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: AN APPEAL TO ALL GAMBIA L/Musa > > Musa, > > Thanks for your comments. I agree that Jammeh will use anything or anyone to > stay in power, but I do not agree that moving the capital to Kanilai and the > suggestion that he si trying to forge a Jola kingdom is a ridiculous idea at > all. What in your estimation do you suppose is the reason he made Kanilai the > new capital? Just randon selection and money to spare in a coutry as poor as > Gambia? I doubt it very much. > What abotu his meddling in Casamance and the allegations of stashing of arms? > Another random occurrence? > > Jabou Joh > > In a message dated 4/3/04 6:40:25 PM Central Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > > Sent from the Internet > > > > > > JAbou, > > > > You are absolutely right that it is important to talk about tribal issues, > > not only to avoid a Rwanda type of a situation, but to think that tribalism > > does not shape our politics is utter nonsense. Personally, I do not think we > > have a tribal animosity like the Hutus and the Tutsi. In fact, I am willing to > > make a stretch that JAmmeh cares less about the Jolas as a tribe. This is not > > about the Jolas, but moreso about Jammeh the person and what he has to do to > > maintain the status quo. He will exploit all avenues of sensitivities to > > maintian power and his political survival. For anyone to thing think that all > > these have anything to do with the establishment of a Jola empire is > > ridiculous. As for the suggestion that moving the "Capital" to Kanilai is a clear > > indication of this dream of a Jola empire, is just that. This is all about Jammeh > > the egomaniac, and "Jola this or Jola that" has nothing to do with anything. > > Although, like any other dishonest political survivor he will continue > > manipulate and will use all the tribes for his own political end. > > > > Musa Jeng > > > From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]> > > > Date: 2004/04/03 Sat PM 01:10:02 EST > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Subject: Re: AN APPEAL TO ALL GAMBIA L SUBSCRIBERS > > > > > > In a message dated 4/3/04 11:20:49 AM Central Standard Time, > > > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > > > > > > > > "we have two options either to let history take a > > > > disastrous path or shape the course of history towards > > > > the right path." > > > > ."The purpose of history is to learn the lessons of > > > the past and we let history repeat itself in vice then > > > we might be very sorry for ourself. We will then let > > > both ourself and our future children down." > > > "The Gambia is country of tolerance and is not divided > > > by tribal demarcations and tribal values or allegiance > > > have no place in The Gambia." > > > > > > Brother, > > > > > > I think we need to be very clear before we label people that are > > commenting > > > on tribal issues as tribalists. > > > I am making a comment on the issue of tribalism for the reasons you have > > > stated and which I have quoted above. There are some indications that > > Jammeh is > > > playing a tribal card and the very reason that such things have led to > > genocide > > > and other horrible things in places like Rwanda is because no one wanted > > to > > > talk about it. I think we have to discuss these issues so that we can let > > it be > > > known that the people are very much aware of any attempts to engage in > > such > > > things and thereby avoid the possible consequences in our own country. > > > We as Gambians have a tendency to not talk about things until they get out > > of > > > hand and we cannot affort to do that in this. case. > > > Rather, I think the issue to how do we get across to Jammeh that tribalism > > > will not be tolerated, as opposed to trying to put a gag order on the > > discussion > > > of tribalism even when there are certain tendencies that will cause > > divisions > > > along tribal lines being implemented by Yaya Jammeh. For example, why is > > it > > > that Gambians have never asked the question why Jammeh moved our capital > > to > > > Kanilai? Is there a plausible explanation for this action? > > > > > > Jabou Joh > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=gambia-l > > > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > > Web interface > > > at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > > http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=gambia-l > > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > > [log in to unmask] > > > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > > Web interface > > at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=gambia-l > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface > at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/CGI/wa.exe?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~