Awa

I will try but I think Tafa Fye will beat me headsup on this one

I will call on my resident old timer and  G - buddy daddy Emmanuel sang to help me out !!

Seyfo Doudou ndow was always refered to as Ndow - Jallow  I always wondered why the double last name  and i have heard jallow Jerrieh too

former PM late PS Njie was refered to as gaindeh Njie Darawache

I know of many others already mentioned so i may have to list some of  the others not yet listed

Fofana can be malian , guinean or gambian or salone origin but the roots of that name definately were from the bambara tribe historically 

Off head

 saho vs suso

Dem  vs jallow

Janhas vs Saines

jattas vs tambas

 

one interesting thing related to this concept is that of the Narrs - just thinking out loud

you have the narrigannars - from mauritania area

narri fass-  from the magrib area

and Narri bierut from the middle east not necessarily lebanon

the sourgas (immigrant / visiting farmers) took some of the names of their  land owners or renters as a status or identity thing

(to be politically correct)

Now a simple quiz

 who knows the difference between a pulloh and poudoh ??

now it is all ring a bell !! and racking of brains are in place  - no prices just awards from george !1

habib

>From: [log in to unmask]
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list              <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: What is in the other names?
>Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 16:18:29 EDT
>
>Malanding:
>
>Thank you for taking the lead on something so important to us and our
>children.  I become quite proud and hyper when a griot shouts "sey sawaneh", yet I
>never took the time to ask my dad about the history behind that title!  Thus, I
>am very interested to see those who know, to please provide descriptive
>meanings of these titles.  El Hajj Faye and Hatib Ghanim, sorry to put you on the
>spot, but your wealth of knowledge could be quite beneficial:-)
>
>Here are a few from me:
>
>Sey = Sey Malick, Sey Sawaneh Macca Bun Malick Sey, Sey Pulo
>
>Chune = Chune Demba
>
>Drammeh = Korima Gamba (the Saraheulehs)  maybe Bass can help with the
>history?
>
>Sidibeh = Sidibeh Ning Sankareh
>
>Jeng = Jeng Sallah
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>Awa Sey
>
>
>
>In a message dated 19/05/2004 11:26:35 ص Eastern Daylight Time,
>[log in to unmask] writes:
>
> > Subj: Re: What is in the other names?
> >  Date: 19/05/2004 11:26:35 ص Eastern Daylight Time
> >  From: [log in to unmask]
> >  Reply-to: [log in to unmask]
> >  To: [log in to unmask]
> >  Sent from the Internet
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr.Jaiteh,
> >
> >  I would apprecite it if you send me a copy of the list of the Gambian First
> > Names mentioned below. As for the one presently under consideration
> > namely,the Gambian Surnames and their meanings and /or  their genesis,I think it
> > would be faster if each and every member of the this forum provides his/her
> > surname,what it means and how it came about, if possible.Those who don't know
> > could easily call grandma back home.
> >
> >  It is important to note here that the sources of our traditional knowledge
> > back home are disappearing faster than anyone of us could imagine,all the
> > more reason why it is so important for us and for our kids,esp.those in the
> > diaspora, to have such a document as is proposed here.
> >
> >  So mine is as follows:
> >
> >
> >
> > SURNAME: Drammeh
> >
> >  CLAN DESCRIPTION: Santang Farrah Kanji-Mori (Mandinka)
> >
> >  DEFINITION: Santango is a tree in Senegambia region known for its strenght
> > and size;Farrah means to split into two halves;Kanji-Morri means the Islamic
> > scholar to whom people appeal for help or protection in times of crisis.
> >
> >  THE (Epic) STORY BEHIND IT: The first Drammeh supposedly split open a
> > Santang tree by channeling all his magical powers into it to demonstrate to all
> > the pretending medicine men and magicians in town that such would be the fate
> > of anyone of them who tries to mess with him or his family.
> >
> >   Regards Basss!
> >
> >  @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list              <
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> > >Subject: What is in the other names?
> > >Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 11:38:40 -0400
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> > >
> > >Hello all,
> > >Years ago we had a catalog of Gambia first names.  I wonder if we
> > >can do
> > >the same for last names. More important would be the vaious other
> > >names
> > >that come with last names. I will start by Koto Oko's Drammeh
> > >Santang
> > >Fara. It will be useful if people could give an english translation
> > >of
> > >a  "Mam's University" account of how the other names came to being.
> > >Please note that no one version will be taken as the most authentic.
> > >The
> > >other names can be in any language.
> > >
> > >Some Examples:
> > >Surname   ------other names (the
> > >language)------
> > >---------- Mam's University account
> > >Jaiteh   -------   Jaiteh Kaba; 'Wulumbang Tero' (Mandinka) (Friends
> > >of
> > >the swamp).  ----     may have been a swamp dueller, perhaps rice
> > >famer
> > >Drammmeh ---Santang Fara; kanji Mori, (Mandinka) (?? Bassssss where
> > >are
> > >you?)    ----- Mori (Mandinka for Islamic Scholar)
> > >Keita----------Keita Jula (Trader), Mansaring(Royalty),
> > >(Mandinka)                             -----Were rulers in Manding
> > >and
> > >traders as they migrated west(Gambia)
> > >
> > >
> > >Who's next?
> > >
> > >Malanding Jaiteh
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