Mr. Sanneh - Our views are not so different. I was asked in an interview what person in history I admired the most. My response was Malcolm X. I don't think people should take abuse either (period). Thanks for your response. I have a lots of respect for you and your position.... Take care..... Cynthia ==============Original message text=============== On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 10:28:32 am CST SANNEH K SAMUEL wrote: -----Original Message----- From: "SANNEH K SAMUEL" <[log in to unmask]> To: "Cynthia Daniels" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:18:15 +0100 Subject: My respond to Cynthia. thank you very much for your insight. I must say that you learnt your lesson very well, but when it comes to MalcomX and Martin Luther, there is a very high probability that we might never come to a clever and mutual conclusion. the whole issue would become philosophical and there fore too complex and too wide. My stand is as clear as my conscience. When I called on our people to rise up against a bully and have him overthrown, I said it before and am saying it again that, I mean exactly what I said. The people are under attack and we must tell them to rise up and take their God given and constitutional right to defend themselves. Anything short of this, in my judgement is asking or giving the Bully time to excute his ill- intended plans. Let me put it to you this way. I was one of those Gambians who defended this revolution because as a poor boy from the country side I did not like the useless spending of the Jawara government. I went to school with some ministers kid and the president kids or his relatives kids in the same school as jammeh did. I expect Jammeh to underswtand how he and people like me suffered the uncontrolled capitalism that the then government embarked on that led us to suffer as sons and daughters of peasants. When he overthew the government naturally i was glad because some one who understands the poor is now in control. I assumed that he would come to the rescue of the innocent farmers children. He refused to buy thier peanuts but could buy air planes instead and boast of being the richest man in the country. Belief me or not some of these bourgeoios kids are in this forum. If they could identify themselves let them come out. I challenge each and every one of them to come out and say anything about my performance during my five years with them att the same school that jammeh went to. This is not about me, it is about the Gambia. Jammeh started instead to claim coups have been plotted against him and therefore justified his brutal intention to massacre his own soldiers. This action to me, was not accident. It was planned to scare the arm forces because he had other plans, which was, he would have a free hand in rubbing the nation and without fear of the army because he neutralised them and made them impotent, incompetent and therefore inefficient. It did not stop there, the man went further to kill inocent school children and of cocause nothing came out of it which is no suprise to me and certainly not to many more other Gambians. The man did not stop there, he continued to attack Imams, religious leaders, village heads and district chiefs. He is knocking husbands and wives head together and he is killing journalists and burning the media houses and closing down some. If calling on my people to stand and stop such a man by rising against him, means planning a coup, then call it planning coup. I have no regrets and no remorse whatsoever to say what I said. If you learn to know me you will know that Iam not a violent man. Iam a simple village boy who went to primary school studying and doing my home works using fire wood and bare foot. Iam a humble man who attended Gambia high school side by side with sons of those who brutalised some of my present day political heros. Revolution is a contionous process. I don't want to be president and Iam not a politician. I talk about the concerns of my people and the survival of their culture and the dignity and respect that God and the constitution of our dear country granted them. If talking about what almost everyone agrees and believes that is what really concerns them, makes me a coup plotter then call me so. I talk about the rising porverty in our country. Almost all Gambians belief that we were better off then than we are today. Economically we had more buying power then than we have today. These are the facts. Iam not hiding and Iam not running. Iam a true african who want the best for my people. I will not conspire with any western government to over throw any Gambian governmet. i guess that made me different from Jammeh. He overthrew an elected government but I guess he knew the consequences of should he had failled. There are people on this forum who would tell you that Iam nothing while I was in the village and I was nothing while I was in Gambia high school and Iam nothing while am still sitting here confined to my university blocks. I will agree with them, the reason to that is am in a foreign country. My soul and future depends on the survival of my people, the Gambian people. I am something there because my heart lives in the Gambia. The spirit of my forefathers live in the gambia. So to rest in peace and die with dignity, I refuse to take any European passport or any other country's for that matter apart from mother Gambia's even though am entitled to one. I will go home some day to live side by side with my people where we can share ideas and be open to each other as brothers and sisters. Where there is room for compromise and dialogue whithout fearing the same bullets that struck Deyda Hyadara last thursday night. I would come back to that country which I love so much but parted from it, in other to acquire some skills or knowledge that I could come back to ease the life of my people. My life is worth living on condition that my people are free. So Cynthia am not worried about what I say because i beilef in thinking about matters before uttering words. Again Iam not a politician, am born to a hunter who could not read or write but I rubbed shoulder with educated peoples kid and I proved my self worth any man's salt. I crossed deserts on my feet to come to europe not by Jumbo gets or British airways. Above all Iam an Engineer today and a masters degree holder. I am glad I can still think and reason. Iam glad that there is a country I can call home and am grateful that God Almighty still watch over me. I would conclude by saying, thank you very much. You deserve all the respect. May our different plans and strategies lead us to see the dawn of that day when we can see each other as brothers and sisters of that beautiful country with so much potential to offer not only to the sub-region but to the entire humanity. God bless the Gambia and and may Hyadra's soul rest in perfect peace. Nyanchor Karlstad University, Sweden -----Original Message----- From: Cynthia Daniels <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:01:42 -0600 Subject: Deyda is gone; Who is the next victim? > Mr. Sanneh you said: “It is like the Martin Luther King Junior's > principle of speaking non-violence > to the Ku klux klan while Malcolm X was talking about any means > necessary to achieve our > independence and freedom.” > > Mr. Sanneh, I find what you are writing very interesting, noble and I > must give you lots of respect > for what you believe in. However, your reference to Malcolm X may be > out of context unless my > interpretation of what you are trying to convey is flawed. > > When Malcolm X uttered the phrase “by any means necessary”, he was > talking about the people > following King. King preached non-violence and you better believe, the > American public (police and > the average citizens) inflicted all types of horrific brutality against > those participating in the > civil rights or “King” marches. Malcolm X disagreed with King’s stance > of non-violence in the face > of the violence that was being perpetrated on all those who > participated in this march. This is > why Malcolm said King and his followers should defend themselves by any > means necessary. The Black > community at the time was divided on this issue. Although many people > followed King with this > non-violence stance, I would have to say, most people believed that you > should yourself by any > means necessary. Malcolm wasn’t saying you should go and pick a fight, > but he certainly believed > you have an inalienable right to protect yourself from a bully. If you > don’t protect yourself, you > will always be bullied. Each time you are attacked, the bully gain > more momentum, the attacks are > worst, they come more frequently, and you lose a little dignity with > each attack. This is what > happened to King and his followers. The Nation of Islam (to this day) > is respected by some and > feared by others because of their stance. They will not start a fight, > but they certainly will not > run away from it either. > > > On a different note, I do think it may be a little irresponsible to say > I am planning a coup or I > want to kill Jammeh on the Internet. Those thoughts should be said in > private if anyone is really > planning on doing this. People kill people all the time, but never > should you announce to your > enemy (perceived or real) that I am planning to kill or displace you. > This doesn’t make sense to me. > > Disclaimer: I am not advocating violence, each one of us, must decide > what type of brutality (or > not) they are willing to take and act accordingly or appropriately. > > > > ___________________________________________ > Cynthia M. Daniels > Northwestern University > Biomedical Engineering Department > 2145 N. 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