".....NC will only contribute to a coalition if they cannot name their own candidate...". SWhould read "NC will only contribute to a coalition if they can name their own candidate". Joe >From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: For Joe Sambou: Can we not get along? >Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:03:29 +0000 > >Lamin, thanks for your position. Since you are not prepared to support >your >assertions against "the STDGP members", that yourself and Conteh attempted >to castigate, then there is no need for me to coax you. > >"Yes my friend Joe, I was here when Conteh called you a snitch, and of >course, I couldn't disagree more with that characterization. It was >regrettable and I hope nothing of that nature happens again. However, the >incident perhaps should serve as a lesson for you to learn from, and I >would, based on that assessment, if in your place, evaluate myself. Ask >yourself what is it that you have said, done or is doing over the years to >warrant such a portrayal. May be you have given Lamine too many reasons to >look at you as mulish. May be the many fights you had with the very same >people you suppose to be in the same camp with, were reason enough for him >to dub you such." > >Lamin, are you really serious about the above? Why on earth would someone >blatantly lie about you and you spend your time being introspective? Now, >even though time has revealed Conteh to be a fabricator and a liar, you >still could not bring yourself to acknowledging that but to call it >unfortunate or regrettable. Where is the balance? Lamin, could the "may >be" above be your inner thoughts? It sure do sound like it. Thank God I >am >not you if that is the case. It is also very interesting that the one that >needs to be defending his position is silent and you make it your business >to interpret what may have been on his mind. But all the same. You cannot >tell folks on this list about Lamin Jasseh Conteh, for we have seen plenty >of him. > >I'm done with this issue and waiting for Conteh to attempt at divisiveness >again. Decentralize if that is what you'll wish and let others go on with >their agenda. After the last elections, Conteh and Sheriff Dibba joined >the >APRC and folks remember his famous "Olive Branch" sermon. Two years ago, >Conteh said that NC will only contribute to a coalition if they cannot name >their own candidate (Conteh their spokesperson). Then a year ago he named >himself that candidate, even though he did not live in the Gambia five >consecutive years prior to the elections of 2006. I told him that we have >a >coalition and Gambians support a coalition. Then he and his spokesperson >turn around to start their lies that I was a snitch for Yaya to silence me. >Now, he is the brainchild for decentralization, why? "Because the members >of the STGDP are in this for future appointment in a NADD government". >Lamin, do you see a pattern here? Who is the one that is in this for >himself?So you cannot tell me about Conteh and we have seen plenty of him. >Other communities such as New York, Seattle, Minnesota, Tennessee, etc., in >collaboration with the STGDP gave way more to NADD, over NC and they are >not >making noise about it. So, why NC or should I say Conteh making such >noise? > Brother Lamin, time validates the truth or falsehood, just be patient. >I'm done with this issue. Thanks for your opinions. > >Chi Jaama > >Joe > > >>From: Lang Tunkara <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >><[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: For Joe Sambou: Can we not get along? >>Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 04:09:49 +0000 >> >>Joe: >> >>I did not claimed to have known what your organization- STGDP is about; >>nor >>have I made any stab to define it, in my postings. That assertion in your >>respond to me was probably your own assumption. No qualms! You are >>entitled >>to asserting your own views. My postings were more directed to my concern >>about the incessant squabbling that we have all come to perceive both here >>on the L and even beyond. In fact, the name STGDP came about as I >>attempted >>to narrate to you what had prompted Mr. Conteh’s writings. And while I >>agree with Lamine on the need for all of us to show tolerant and respect >>for >>one another, I do not come here to speak for him. Oh no! no! no! Mr. >>Conteh, I’m sure you and I both know, can handle his own fights. He does >>not need me to take his place for him. >> >>Yes my friend Joe, I was here when Conteh called you a snitch, and of >>course, I couldn't disagree more with that characterization. It was >>regrettable and I hope nothing of that nature happens again. However, the >>incident perhaps should serve as a lesson for you to learn from, and I >>would, based on that assessment, if in your place, evaluate myself. Ask >>yourself what is it that you have said, done or is doing over the years to >>warrant such a portrayal. May be you have given Lamine too many reasons >>to >>look at you as mulish. May be the many fights you had with the very same >>people you suppose to be in the same camp with, were reason enough for him >>to dub you such. >> >>On the question you posed on the naming of names of the STGDP members >>alluded to in the previous posting, I would like to pass on these three >>lines to you from my last email and that my friend is how far I’m prepared >>to go. >>“So while you have the right to disagree with what Conteh wrote, you must >>also try to find out what happen between the NADD officials and your >>folks >>at this meeting, and then you can go on with what ever you want to say”. >>This may sound too much, but in the interest of avoiding further arguments >>and confrontations, wouldn’t it be more prudent and wiser if you try and >>find out for yourself what transpired in the meetings held from, New York, >>to DC? You will be provided with first-hand information as to what >>occurred >>between whom and where and then give yourself the opportunity to draw your >>own conclusions as to the authenticity of what had been stipulated here. >>I’m sure as a professional minded individual, you would not mind taking up >>this responsibility. >>And with this Mr. Sambou, I respectfully rest my case. >> >>Lamin A.Tunkara. >> >> >> >>>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: For Joe Sambou: Can we not get along >>>Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 14:54:27 +0000 >>> >>>Lamin thank you for you opinion and yes, we are in this struggle >>>together. >>>However, we are not in a struggle for divisiveness. The questions that >>>both >>>myself and Musa Jeng asked Conteh are still not answered. Where as you >>>came >>>to speak for Conteh, you also have not answered our question. If both >>>yourself and Conteh believe in partnership, why did you not contact the >>>STGDP and lodge your complains to them? We are just responding to what >>>Conteh announced to the readership and we have no clue what he is talking >>>about and whom he is talking about. This was brought in the open and it >>>will be resolved in the open. To date you have not named the STGDP >>>representative that you kept alluding to. That is unacceptable. Both of >>>you are obligated to follow through and tell the readers whom you have in >>>mind, and you need to do that where you announced your charge. >>> >>>Going back to Conteh, I'm sure you were here when he came and lied about >>>me >>>being an snitch for Yaya Jammeh and how I regularly visit the Gambian >>>Embassy, my clandestine meeting with Tijan Ceesay, etc., in collaboration >>>with other criminal minds and the only thing that vindicated me is time. >>>Many folks here although doubted his fabrications, but Conteh piled on so >>>much shit that one cannot help but give him the benefit of doubt. He and >>>his conspirators used the ethnic card and it was nothing but ugliness. >>>Conteh has been found by this readership to be a liar, thus if he shows >>>up >>>here to throw that same nonsense, he shall be told and it has nothing to >>>do >>>with getting along but to be truthful with each other as we struggle. >>> >>>STGDP is aware of the dynamics in North Carolina but we choose to focus >>>on >>>what we do best, work on behalf of Gambians and NADD. You did not hear >>>us >>>discuss the jockeying that obtains in your neck of the woods and some of >>>the >>>baseless charges against STGDP, only to see Conteh show up with his usual >>>diet. I do no own Gambia and neither does STGDP, but we will not allow >>>Conteh or any other to play games with our reputation. All we ask is for >>>you to be specific with your charge and not throw generalities. It is >>>also >>>interesting that you seem to be defining an entire organization without >>>knowing the organization and what they do. So, please, in the spirit of >>>fairness and truth in narration, tell this readership whom among the >>>STGDP >>>representatives/leadership/coordinators/rank and file you are talking >>>about. >>> That is the right thing to do so the readership will be fully informed. >>>Thanks for taking the time to make your case. >>> >>>Chi Jaama >>> >>>Joe >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: Lang Tunkara <[log in to unmask]> >>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>>><[log in to unmask]> >>>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>>Subject: For Joe Sambou: Can we not get along >>>>Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 05:40:48 +0000 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Joe: >>>> >>>>The challenges we face today in the Gambia are bigger for one person to >>>>handle. At this point in time, you need to reach out to people not >>>>create >>>>enemies. Lamin Jasseh Conteh is one of the many people you need to work >>>>with, if you want to see your wishes of a better Gambia come true. Like >>>>STGDP, Lamin Jasseh Conteh is equally committed to seeing a thriving >>>>Gambia. He is committed to seeing a Gambia where the respect for the >>>>rule >>>>of law is upheld, a Gambia where freedom of speech is honored, and above >>>>all, to a Gambia where we can work together as one, to further the >>>>interest >>>>of our nation. >>>> >>>>The dividing issue between you, some of the members of the organization >>>>you >>>>are speaking for, and Lamin as has been alluded to, in your postings, >>>>was >>>>the way we conduct ourselves. When the NADD leadership visited the US a >>>>month or so ago, they met with many people, organizations, including, >>>>I’m >>>>sure your own STGDP. Many questions were asked of them out of humility >>>>and >>>>respect as to what these NADD reps plan to do to change the course of >>>>our >>>>country. Unfortunately, a hard line approach was taken allegedly by >>>>some >>>>members of the STGDP at one of these meetings as they >>>>forcefully attempt to pressure the NADD reps, to name names as to whom >>>>they >>>>will chose as the flag bearer of the coalition. Accordingly, the >>>>exchange >>>>between the parties became so heated, that a member of the NADD >>>>entourage >>>>challenged these folks to return to Gambia and take up the >>>>responsibilities >>>>of the opposition if they (the alleged questioners) are not satisfied >>>>with >>>>the way the coalition is handling things. My friend, yes, while it is >>>>our >>>>right as citizens to ask questions about the direction of our nation, it >>>>is >>>>also imperative we understand and apply the right approaches in that >>>>effort. I think our alleged friends at STGDP went a little too far in >>>>the >>>>way they >>>>conducted themselves at that meeting. Lamin’s previous postings were >>>>directed to address such encounters and the need for all to understand >>>>that >>>>the time for such contentious encounters is not now. >>>> >>>>Of course Halifa Sallah or anyone of the NADD reps as matured and >>>>seasoned >>>>politicians as they are, know better not to say any ugly things about >>>>the >>>>people they need most. They have to say good things about STGDP and its >>>>membership because those guys among many other people are the ones they >>>>can >>>>count on come election time. But what Halifa or any NADD rep is capable >>>>of >>>>doing is to listen and observe the kind of people they met with to equip >>>>themselves with a better idea as to who they may be working with. And I >>>>think that is exactly what they did. For some reason, they were >>>>disappointed by the way they were treated by some of the people >>>>allegedly >>>>your >>>>own guys. If we behave like the know-alls, forceful and arrogant in >>>>nature >>>>we do ourselves a great disservice by leaving an unpleasant lasting >>>>impression to those we come across. So while you have the right to >>>>disagree with what Conteh wrote, you must also try to find out what >>>>happen >>>>between the NADD officials and your folks at this meeting, and then you >>>>can >>>>go on with what ever you want to say. But also bear in mind that >>>>everyone >>>>you can get to work with counts. Just like they need you to change the >>>>Gambia for the better, you need them as well. >>>> >>>>Lamin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> >>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >>>><[log in to unmask]> >>>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>>Subject: Re: [>-<] GAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION PETITION >>>>MONDAY >>>>Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 15:43:58 +0000 >>>> >Momodou Lamin Jasseh-Conteh, please take note and read carefully >>>> >what Halifa >>>> >said about the STGDP you attempted to discredit. You obviously had >>>> >lied >>>> >about the quote you hung on Halifa and you ought to be ashamed of >>>> >yourself. >>>> >How many times will you show up here to lie about people? Are you >>>> >that >>>> >malicious and selfish? You need to really look within yourself, for >>>> >you >>>> >have done >>>>a good job revealing the real Jasseh-Conteh to Gambians. >>>> >When >>>> >will your lies and misrepresentation and malice end? >>>> > >>>> >Chi Jaama >>>> > >>>> >Joe >>>> > >>>> >>From: <[log in to unmask]> >>>> >>Reply-To: [log in to unmask] >>>> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]> >>>> >>Subject: Re: [>-<] GAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION >>>> >>PETITION >>>> >>MONDAY >>>> >>Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:41:24 -0400 >>>> >> >>>> >>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by >>>> >><[log in to unmask]> ] >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>Finally Mr. Sallah, extended his thanks to Gambians at home and >>>> >>abroad who >>>> >>are helping to restore democracy in The Gambia. "This is a >>>> >>tremendous >>>> >>initiative from the beginning. >>>>NADD have emerged and in >>>> >>collaboration with >>>> >>STGDP. We commend Gambians at home and in the diaspora for >>>> >>supporting us >>>> >>morally, materially and financially-this is the success of the >>>> >>Gambian >>>> >>people" Halifa noted. >>>> >> >>>> >>Congratulation to STGDP. You decided to walk the walk, and >>>> >>continued >>>> >>vigoroulsy to make a difference in the Gambia. >>>> >> >>>> >>Thanks >>>> >> > >>>> >> > From: panderry mbai <[log in to unmask]> >>>> >> > Date: 2005/10/02 Sun PM 02:22:59 EDT >>>> >> > To: [log in to unmask] >>>> >> > Subject: [>-<] GAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION >>>> >>PETITION >>>> >>MONDAY >>>> >> > >>>> >> > [input] >>>> >> > NEWSGAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION PETITION >>>>MONDAY >>>> >> > IRIN NEWS-->BY PA NDERRY M'BAI and YERO JALLOW >>>> >> > >>>> >> > --------------------------------- >>>> >> > >>>> >> > October 2, 2005 >>>> >> > Hearing on an election petition filed by Gambia's opposition >>>> >>coalition >>>> >>NADD will begin on Monday 3RD October, at the High Court in The >>>> >>Gambian >>>> >>capital Banjul, The ALLGAMBIAN online Newspaper has been reliably >>>> >>informed. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > The NADD leadership are challenging Thursday's electoral >>>> >>outcome, which >>>> >>was in favour of APRC candidate Sainey Mbye, who defeated incumbent >>>> >>NRP >>>> >>leader Hamat Bah. The opposition who resorted to court action are >>>> >>charging >>>> >>electoral fraud and would want the High Court to nullify Thursday's >>>> >>>> >>polling >>>> >>results. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > In a petition filed in the High Court, the NADD leadership >>>> >>adduced that >>>> >>the Upper Saloum by election, which led to the defeat of Hamat Bah >>>> >>was >>>> >>characterised by massive electoral fraud and intimidation of its >>>> >>supporters. They argue that the polls were not free and fair. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Chief among their prayers according to our sources "is for a >>>> >>fresh >>>> >>elections be conducted in Upper Saloum and the current electoral >>>> >>results on >>>> >>Upper Saloum be declared null and void." >>>> >> > >>>> >> > The ALLGAMBIAN has learnt that the opposition had gathered >>>> >>series of >>>> >>evidence, which they intend to present in court to support their >>>> >>case. >>>> >>Sources say the >>>>said high profile political case will attract both >>>> >>local >>>> >>and international attention, as the said polls were said to have >>>> >>been >>>> >>conducted under hostile political environment. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Speaking to The ALLGAMBIAN, NADD Coordinator Halifa Sallah, >>>> >>confirmed >>>> >>about the said petition they filed in the High Court. Mr. Sallah >>>> >>says they >>>> >>thought it necessary to challenge what he called the electoral >>>> >>"discrepancies" in Upper Saloum, where a lot of NADD supporters >>>> >>suffered in >>>> >>the hands of APRC militants. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > According to Mr. Sallah, NADD committee members were busy >>>> >>assessing the >>>> >>election results and they came to the conclusion that NADD >>>> >>supporters >>>> >>suffered in the hands of state >>>>agents and APRC militants. He cites >>>> >>the >>>> >>incident in Bullock, Sibanor and Kalagi where NADD voters were >>>> >>denied by >>>> >>armed soldiers from traveling to Jarra West on polling day. Mr. >>>> >>Sallah says >>>> >>some of these voters couldn't vote on Thursday, as the soldiers >>>> >>will not >>>> >>allow them to cross the bridge at Kalagi. He also cited the >>>> >>political >>>> >>fracas in Njau where Hamat Bah and his convoy were attacked. "Chaos >>>> >>have >>>> >>been registered in upper Saloum, and there were a lot of illegal >>>> >>voter >>>> >>transfers" Halifa told The ALLGAMBIAN. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > The NADD coordinator also charged that local government leaders >>>> >>such as >>>> >>Chiefs, commissioners and others were used in disrupting the >>>> >>election. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >> > A jubilant Halifa Sallah talking about his return to Parliament >>>> >>went on >>>> >>to say "this is the verdict of the people." He also informed >>>> >>AllGambian >>>> >>that on their next meeting they will further analyse the election >>>> >>results >>>> >>and they will move on with their projects. 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