Morro, NADD did not alienate Ousainou. The answer to your question lies in the questions I asked you about what Ousainou rejected in the MOU. Otherwise we would just be going in circles. I am not assuming and I was specific in waht I said. The bases of NADD was not the Bigger or Better (Party Led), the bases was a program as described by the MOU. Please favor me and answer to the questions I posed, so we can exhaust everything. Chi Jaama Joe >From: "MORRO K. CEESAY" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list ><[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE MAN >ALONE!!! >Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:54:34 -0800 > >This confuses the discussion even more. There are a great deal of >unsubstantiated assertions here. But again, let's apply a little common >sense. I am making a few assumptions here. A coalition of the opposition >has a better chance of defeating Jammeh than individual parties. Darboe as >a leader of coalition has a better chance of defeating Jammeh than as >leader of UDP. Darboe as leader of the largest opposition party did not >emerge as leader of a coalition. it is natural to assume he should have. >Since he did not, one of two explanations has to prevail. Either he has >lost >support of his party (UDP), or an undemocratic process was adopted by NADD. >Either way, we are entitled to know the story. I am less interested in who >the leader of NADD is than whether or not we are developing truly >democratic >processes in The Gambia. Yes Jammeh is horrible. I want him out as much as >the next guy. I have been wailing against him for 12 years. However, NADD >has to be a better alternative. One can only be certain of that not just >by >the leaders selected but also by the processes used to select them. When >the devil extends a hand to one resident in hell, do not grab it as a >staircase to heaven. Why? Because the devil cannot deliver you to heaven. >NADD has to be the right kind of party. We judge NADD by what it does not >what it says? Not by what we want it to be, but what it actually is. So >what did NADD do? If Darboe was alienated as the leader of the largest >opposition group, how in the world did NADD manage to do that? Darboe is >the leader of the largest opposition party for a reason - it is the will of >the people. How did NADD manage to alienate him, if in fact that is what >has happened? > >Morro > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Sambou >Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:09 AM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE MAN >ALONE!!! > > >Yes indeed, no question should be side stepped and let us apply that quest >accross the board. Was Halifa selected as the flagbearer while or before >Ousainou left NADD and formed an Alliance with NRP? No, Ousainou left >NADD, > >formed an Alliance with NRP, and weeks later NADD named a flagbearer >(Before > >Ousainou left, it was Ousainou, Halifa and OJ that were nominated. Halifa >declined his nomination, leaving OJ and Ousainou. Then Halifa got >renominated again when Hamat suggested for the comittee to be selected to >come up with their recommendations. Before the committee can recommend, >Ousainou left, leaving Halifa and OJ. Then OJ withdrew, and Waa who >nominated OJ put his hat in the ring. A committee of the remaining >executive members, excluding Waa and Halifa was formed and they came up >with > >their flagbearer.) If Ousainou had not left NADD, we would not be talking >about what we are talking about today. That is my beef with Ousainou. As >long as he was at the table, he was a player. Why leave when you know you >can veto anything you do not agree with? Why leave when he knew that all >he > >needed to do was to embrace the MOU and we all would have been talking >about > >a unified NADD, today. While folks focus on the battle for the >flagbearership, they missed the forest for the tree. The contention was >really adoption of the MOU. Had Ousainou agreed with the terms of the MOU, >trust me, you would have heard Gambians howl to the tip of our lungs for >Ousainou to lead to make life easier for all, but that was not the case. >Ousainou flatly refused to embrace the MOU and that is a non-starter for >Gambians that want change for the better, and not a continuation from where >Jammeh left off. Foget about NADD for the moment, I'm talking about >Gambians, you and I. Let me ask both of you, why would Ousainou not agree >for a transition period and the agreements attached, there in? Why would >Ousainou have a problem with a level playing field, after the transition >period? Why would Ousainou not agree with a term limit? These are good >things that all gambians yearn for. Are you in agreement with Ousainou >against the above, if so, why? > >The question asked by Morro would be valid only if Halifa was selected the >Flagbearer before Ousainou left and formed his Alliance with Hamat. >However, that is not the case. I'm sure you know the sequence of events >and > >you also know and heard OJ withdrawing his candidacy and Waa throwing his >hat in the ring, which took weeks before they all agreed. Did Halifa not >withdrew his name initially and it was OJ and Ousainou that were the >nominees? Thanks for your question and I hope you will give consideration >to mine in return. > >Chi Jaama > >Joe > > >From: Lang Tunkara <[log in to unmask]> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > ><[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE MAN > >ALONE!!! > >Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:58:34 +0000 > > > >Morro: > >Absolutely right you are. But none of the folks who find fault in > >Ousainou > >will step up and answer these questions we've all being asking about the > >nomination process of Mr. Sallah. Why? Because they don't have any > >explanation. The funny thing about this whole process and sad of course >is > > >how the the nomination started with Omar Jallow but end up with Halifa. >I > >asked how come? > >They will always blame Ousainou, and never in their small minds accept >the > >responsibility of creating this whole chaos. It is only time that will > >vindicate Ousainou/Bah and others. If they, the critics of NRP/UDP, do >not > > >reach out soon to clear this mess up, their failure is more than a >chance, > >but an absolute certainty. > >Lang > > > >>From: "MORRO K. CEESAY" <[log in to unmask]> > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > >><[log in to unmask]> > >>To: [log in to unmask] > >>Subject: Re: TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE > >>MAN > >>ALONE!!! > >>Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:13:47 -0800 > >> > >>This is rubbish. I asked before and I ask again, how did Sallah get > >>to be the leader of NADD in the first place? It would seem reasonable > >>anywhere else that the leader of the largest opposition party in a > >>country should emerge as the leader of a coalition of the opposition. > >>Why was this not the case with NADD? Perhaps we should insist on > >>answers to these questions. Shouldn't NADD provide a full explanation? > >>We shouldn't side step these questions. > >> > >>Morro > >> > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list > >>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of panderry mbai > >>Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:09 PM > >>To: [log in to unmask] > >>Subject: TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE MAN > >>ALONE!!! > >> > >> > >> TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE > >>SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE MAN ALONE!!! > >> TEETH BITE: HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE DARBOE ALONE > >> UDP militants and self styled supporters, including their party > >>leader should consider the generous political invitation extended to > >>Ousainou Numukunda Darboe to lead NADD by Lamin Waa Juwara alias > >>Mbarodi. Waa’s message was harsh, but in reality this was the best way > >>to tame this Dubo son. He should be given the benefit of the doubt to > >>lead the disintegrated coalition. Darboe, should not listen to some > >>misguided Gambians, whose patriotism is questionable. They are flip > >>flopping day in day out with the sole aim of misleading the widely > >>respectable legal luminary. > >> > >> DARBOE, PLEASE COME BACK TO NADD AND LEAD > >> Waa means well for Darboe, even though they are strange bed > >>fellows. > >>His > >>invitation to Darboe should not be blown out of proportion. Lack of > >>political adviser often lead to major political blunder. Darboe/Bah’s > >>resignation from NADD is indeed helping incumbent President Jammeh to > >>further misrule The Gambia. It would be fool hardy for Darboe >supporters, > >>NADD or Gamez supporters to think that they can win Jammeh under such a > >>divided opposition. > >> The likes of Darboe and Bah have committed suicide by betraying their > >>colleagues in the struggle. The breakaway reminds us about the UDP > >>election > >>boycott, some years back, which Darboe later regretted. He is again >taking > >>another political blunder by giving chance to Jammeh to rule our >country, > >>as > >>rightly pointed out by Waa. > >> Darboe, should think twice and judge his actions. Honestly speaking, > >>the > >>actions of Bah and Darboe should warrant the IEC to declare no elections > >>in > >>The Gambia. There is no way that these divided opposition will win >Jammeh. > >>Going for elections is a waste of time and resources. Our hope for >regime > >>change through the democratic mean have been shattered by Bah and >Darboe. > >>These people have betrayed Gambians. > >> Raising funds to help the opposition is a good initiative, but the > >>question that comes to mind is: Who will risk pumping his savings on > >>parties > >>that are not ready to come together? Some of us criticizing Darboe are >not > >>his enemy. We wan him to play by the democratic game and stop this >double > >>standards politics. > >> Waa Juwara was very clear, when he said none of the NADD executive > >>members > >>were interested to lead NADD. Ousainou should capitalize on this Waa > >>invitation. No political gimmicks here. Waa said Ousainou is needed >back. > >>Halifa will no doubt hand over the rein of power once the Dubo Mansa in > >>the > >>making resurfaces at NADD. > >> PPP BETRAYER DEFECTED WHERE? NO, NO, NO, REPORTER AKALEKE > >> As far as we are concerned the PPP, is the by product of the UDP. How > >>can > >>a son claim fathering his parent? Does this make sense to any sober >minded > >>person? Come on dude……The PPP created the UDP, there is no question >about > >>that. This news on the so called defection would sound funny to >Ousainou. > >>We > >>remember when the PPP disgraced officials teamed up to form what is >called > >>today the UDP. > >> At the time they were banned from participating into politics. All >they > >>could have done was to run the show through behind the scene moves. Most > >>of > >>the UDP executive members worked with the PPP government and benefited > >>from > >>Sir Dawda’s school of political thought. From the Taals, the Mannehs, >the > >>list goes on and on were part of the PPP. The PPP will never betray the > >>UDP, > >>a party they created. OJ is part of NADD, but his mind is on the UDP. >This > >>is the reality folks. How can a father hate his son? Does this make >sense? > >> Waa knew very well that in the absence of Ousainou, nothing will >work. > >>Ousainou was created by the PPP mafia and is no doubt enjoying some >amount > >>of support across the country. This does necessarily means that he can >win > >>an election under the current political set up. He stood better chances >of > >>winning if allowed by NADD to lead as suggested by his arch political > >>rival. > >>While the accusations and counter accusations are on the historians are > >>documenting the political scene. Le our actions be guided for the common > >>good. > >> No person can stand on its own. The UDP should always remember that > >>the > >>PPP created their party and should avoid being over carried by political > >>novice, whose knowledge on our political trend is limited to some >extent. > >>Darboe is a good person and we have no doubt in our mind that he want to > >>lead that impoverished country with humility. > >> In doing so, he should put national interest ahead of personal > >>interest. > >>NADD says, he is needed back, let him go before it is too late. Ousainou > >>“LAIMANSANA YAA SEETALAI” meaning the time has come for Ousainou to be a > >>leader. He has NRP/UDP/PPP, and now NADD also are on the verge of >handing > >>over the mantle of power to him. Chey!!! Darboe Mansaring. > >>IllADUWALIJABITA!!! > >> We suggest that if Darboe refuses to accept Waa’s invitation, let >NADD > >>leader Halifa Sallah, set the ball rolling by formally handing the > >>leadership to him. This is no jokes. The opposition should give him the > >>benefit of the doubt. Let sleeping dogs lie. Lawyer Darboe “yai Bankota” > >>This is the reality. He is a leader in the making and NADD should help >him > >>to realize his leadership dream. > >> > >>Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 (Archive on Wednesday, April 26, > >>2006) Posted by PANDERRYMBAI Contributed by PANDERRYMBAI > >> Return > >> Rating: [input] 1 [input] 2 [input] 3 [input] 4 > >>[input] 5 Comments: Save > >>--------------------------------- > >> Current Rating: > >> > >> > >> Copyright 2006 (c) Freedom Newspaper, LLC. : Powered By > >>PointClick > >>: Terms Of Use : Privacy Statement [input] [input] [input] > >> > >>--------------------------------- > >>Yahoo! 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