Thanks for the prompt action. I hope the list management comes to a conclusion that will help maintain and enhance the sense of privacy and security on this list. -BambaLaye On Wed, June 7, 2006 11:21 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said: > BambaLaye, > I understand concern that the right to scream fire must stop outside the > theater hall. The rest of the management must be offline now but given > the urgent need to protect the innocence, I have decided to temporarily > suspend Mr Jallow's right to post until management have time to discuss > the matter. Have a good night. > > Malanding > > > Radio Free Gambia wrote: > >>Thanks Malanding for your prompt response: >> >>"Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and not >>Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification." >> >>I seek to prompt for similar management initiative be taken to protect Pa >>Nderry Mbai's privacy pending (1)either Ebou Jallow proving beyond >>reasonable doubt that he is not compromising Mbai's email account or >>(2)Mbai confirming to all that Ebou has legitimate and explicit authority >>to forward his(Mbai's) messages to the list. >> >>Messages are being forwarded from the same suspect(and >>protected)account(s)through Ebou Jallow's email account(s)as we speak. >>Does management have to wait for the Pa Nderry to complaint to protect >> his >>privacy? >> >>There appears to be two different thresholds set for management action on >>the same issue. This needs to be revisited for the sake of the integrity >>of this respected list. >> >>Sis Jabu, thanks for your added perspective. I'm about to scratch my head >>too. Have a great night. >> >>-BambaLaye >> >> >>On Wed, June 7, 2006 10:07 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said: >> >> >>>Sister Jabou and BambaLaye, >>>While I agree that Mr Jallow's forward of what seem to be personal mail >>>sent to Pa Nderry should concern us, I still believe that it would be >>>unprecedented for management to delist Ebou Jallow without evidence >>>tying him to any wrong doing or violating Pa Nderry's privacy. As far as >>>I can tell Pa Nderry is yet to report his address being spoofed to G-l >>>management or Ebou Jallow is forwarding his private mails without >>>conscent. >>>Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and not >>>Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification. >>>Unfortunately I am yet to hear from any of the managers that Pa >>>contacted them about the suspended account. >>> >>>While Pa may have been too busy sorting things out I would imagine it >>>not very hard hard to send personal messages to management (some of whom >>>he had direct access) about his situation. Although it would be fair to >>>state that he did through Mr Mballow asked to be resubscribed today, I >>>hope he would in the future be unambiguous about the status of Ebou's >>>postings, but until the G-l management cannot act. >>> >>> Malanding >>> >>>[log in to unmask] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Laye, >>>> >>>>I had also arrived at the same conclusions that it made sense to >>>> de-list >>>>Ebou Jallow because with Pa Nderry's declaration that his site was >>>>illegally >>>>hacked and his private communications illegally acquired by the >>>> hackers >>>>( and >>>>we all saw that evidence which the management said was the reason they >>>>decided >>>>to de-list his email address for the time being) and Ebou Jallow's >>>>posting >>>>of emails he clearly labels as intercepted private communication to Pa >>>>Nderry >>>>was what led me to also suggest that Ebou Jallow should be de-listed >>>> but >>>>Malanding offered an explanation that still has me scratching my head. >>>> >>>>Jabou Joh >>>> >>>>In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:42:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >>>>[log in to unmask] writes: >>>> >>>>List Managers: >>>> >>>>I am suggesting that - under the circumstances of Pa Nderry Mbai's >>>> claim >>>>of his email account being tampered with lately - Ebou Jallow >>>>([log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask]) be asked to demonstrate >>>>to >>>>the list that he has explicit permission from Pa Nderry Mbai to >>>> forward >>>>Mr. Mbai's private messages to the list. Barring any satisfactory >>>>demonstration (the standard should be obvious to all)by Mr. Jallow, he >>>>should be immediately delisted in accordance with set rules of the >>>> list. >>>> >>>>I believe it is under the circumstances of Mr. Mbai's claim of illegal >>>>compromise that his (Mr. Mbai's) email account was delisted - because >>>> he >>>>purported to not have control of his email account. It defies logic >>>> (in >>>>my >>>>opinion) to see his private messages being forwarded to the list with >>>> no >>>>explicit raising of eyebrows by the list management. Not to my >>>> knowledge >>>>so far. >>>> >>>>There has been precedent to such behavior on the list and the outcome >>>>was >>>>swift and clear to all. >>>> >>>>My apolgies if this issue is being dealt with under the shadows. >>>> >>>>-BambaLaye >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On Wed, June 7, 2006 6:42 pm, Ebou Jallow said: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>*From*: [log in to unmask] >>>>>*Sent*: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:54 AM >>>>>*To*: [log in to unmask] >>>>>*Subject*: Our Private Lives- Pa Nderry an observation please >>>>> >>>>>Pa Nderry, >>>>> >>>>>I am a visitor to your site. Congrats for setting up the online news >>>>>service. I enjoy alot going through it .However what is disturbing to >>>>>me >>>>>is >>>>>that people's private lives are constantly dragged into what seems to >>>>>have >>>>>no links with issues that are relevant to national development. My >>>>>first >>>>>example is mentioning who had a child with Tamsir Jassey and the >>>>> second >>>>> is >>>>>the said report on Ambassador Crispin Johnson. I don't know him but I >>>>>think >>>>>it is unfair to disclose his personal life who he is living with, or >>>>>who >>>>>he >>>>>sleeps with, excuse my bluntness. It sounds so ridiculous to me. It >>>>>makes >>>>>me >>>>>wonder do we have some online saints? Really not. Talking about >>>>>corruption, >>>>>politics and everything affecting us as a nation is right, but trying >>>>>to >>>>>smear others just for the sake of it is something else. Whoever your >>>>>source >>>>>is on alledged sexual harassmnet meted out to her by any one should >>>>>have >>>>>the >>>>>guts to speak out, without hiding. Keeping silent entrenches the >>>>>problem. >>>>>If >>>>>it is true, I know it is not only the said ambassador who is guilty >>>>> of >>>>>sexual harassment in the Gambia, not only in government, it is every >>>>>where >>>>>in our schools, in the private offices, in our houses, in the media. >>>>> I >>>>>am >>>>>presently working on a book to be published in some months ahead and >>>>>one >>>>>of >>>>>the themes explored is sexual harassment in The Gambia.. I am not >>>>>trying >>>>>to >>>>>defend the ambassador becuase I am a government officer but I am >>>>>writing >>>>>an >>>>>independent opinion and certainly as a journalist as well. I know his >>>>>name >>>>>casually like the name of any other person of high portfolio in >>>>>government. >>>>>Thats all but I feel it is not right to denigrate him on no grounds, >>>>> I >>>>>think >>>>>it is a matter of personal choice whether he lives with his family or >>>>>alone. >>>>>In fact most of us are living away from our families outside the >>>>>country. >>>>>If >>>>>he is corrupt or kind of issues that concern us as a nation, why not, >>>>>belch >>>>>it out, sure we all need to know, but otherwise, things like who >>>>> drinks >>>>>beer >>>>>or has a girl friend in the corner is not substantiate enough to use >>>>>valuable time on our newspapers that have such a lofty mission. We >>>>> have >>>>>more >>>>>pressing issues to discuss. I saw no link either with mentioning that >>>>>Katy >>>>>Joh had a daughter with Tamsir to national issues.I dont know her but >>>>> I >>>>>feel >>>>>it is equally ridiculous to say that. >>>>>Most times i feel it so hard to figure out whether I am reading >>>>> reports >>>>>or >>>>>some personal opinions on freedom newspaper on line. A newspaper >>>>> report >>>>> is >>>>>not a page of fiction neither a chapter on a creative novel nor a >>>>>summary >>>>>of >>>>>a boigraphical tale. >>>>>Therefore Mr. Mbai, I am saying keep up the good work and congrats >>>>> for >>>>>establishing the newspaper online. But focus on better issues, we >>>>> have >>>>>loads >>>>>of bags of relevant issues on national developemnt to unload. >>>>> >>>>>Mariama Khan >>>>>Postgraduate student >>>>>Turin, italy >>>>> >>>>>autho- Futa Toro >>>>> >>>>>Coauthor -Juffureh Kissing you with hurting lips >>>>>and Proverbs of The Senegambia >>>>> >>>>>Mariama Khan >>>>> >>>>>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >>>>>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the >>>>>Gambia-L >>>>>Web interface >>>>>at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >>>>> >>>>>To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >>>>>http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l >>>>>To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>>>>[log in to unmask] >>>>>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >>>>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the >>>>Gambia-L >>>>Web interface >>>>at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >>>> >>>>To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >>>>http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l >>>>To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>>>[log in to unmask] >>>>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >>>>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the >>>> Gambia-L >>>>Web interface >>>>at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >>>> >>>>To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >>>>http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l >>>>To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>>>[log in to unmask] >>>>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >>>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the >>> Gambia-L >>>Web interface >>>at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >>> >>>To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >>>http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l >>>To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>>[log in to unmask] >>>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L >> Web interface >>at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >> >>To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l >>To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>[log in to unmask] >>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい >> >> >> >> > > > いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interface > at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい > > いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい