Well, go back to the archives and see what was said and written. I think we are writing English here! What I said was the exact words of Yus, this was what incited the debate. And I was so thwarted of him because of lack of cognitive content to see the cause of terrorism. You can continue defending the perverted truth. Have a good day! SS.Jawara. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Habib Ghanim" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:14 AM Subject: Re: Zionism mr Jawara yus is cool , he never blamed muslims but only the horrible terrorist . muslims are also victims of terrorists regardless of their origin orreligion i can vouch for our dear brother yus . cheers Habib > Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 00:44:38 +0200> From: [log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Zionism> To: [log in to unmask]> > Well, quite > interesting. I have never seen the forum with this kind of> intensive and > educative debate before. I think Yus Jow who calls the > Muslims> > terrorists, and that the Israelis are suffering as much as the > > Palestinians> should have joined the debate too.> > Thanks guys for all > the interesting information.> > Saul S.Jawara.> > > ----- Original > Message ----- > > From: "Momodou Buharry Gassama" <[log in to unmask]>> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:15 > PM> > Subject: Re: Zionism> >> >> > Cornelius,> > I am done with this > discussion. Go in peace. May Allah> > grant you peace to be in peace with > yourself. May Allah grant your> > peace and the wisdom to fight for > justice for all of His creation.> > May> > Allah grant peace and > prosperity to you, me, your family, my family,> > all those subscribed to > the lists and all His creation. May Allah> > bring> > peace and prosperity > to all troubled spots on earth. May Allah soften> > the hearts of > oppressors and bring peace to Palestine. May Allah> > bring> > enough > peace to your heart to make you realise that people can> > criticise > racist and oppressive policies be they those perpetrated by> > Israel, > Zionists, Arabs, Africans, Americans, Europeans or Asians. Go> > in peace > and note that at least one Muslim has prayed for peace.> >> > Buharry.> >> > > ----Original Message----> > From: [log in to unmask]> > > Date: May 30, 2007 6:26:28 PM> > To: Momodou Buharry Gassama > <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask]> > ICORS.ORG> > Subj: Re: Re: > Zionism> >> > You want to put up a show? For? ME?’> > You want to rap?> >> > > Of course, I am an academic and - naturally an intellectual.> > As > AbdalQadir once said, “By definition, a Muslim is an intellectual”> > If I > am not then it doesn’t bother me.> >> > > http://www.shaykhabdalqadir.com/content/index.html> >> > There are quite a > few in my family, you know, I am not the only one.> > My better half , my > daughters are too – both are distinguished - one> > is a gold Medallist > First /First in Law University of London ,> > another> > with a Masters is > a well placed Civil Servant in the United Kingdom.> >> > Here's one:> > > http://mccammon.ucsd.edu/~dhamelbe/resume-web.pdf> >> > But that’s not the > only company I keep.> >> > When my son was thirteen, he was more advanced > than I was at> > seventeen> > and when I was seventeen, I was at the top > of what I liked – and that> > includes any school in Gambia.> > I’m just > chatting man. I can rap too – even on my guitar.> >> > Look I’m not an > interesting person to discuss with. You want to make> > a> > name for > yourself, don’t engage me.> >> > I was only telling you (the examiner) > that I intend to start with> > question 12 -> > and I was going to tell > you about the Dhimmi status of Jews in> > Islamic> > lands, and the > occasional massacres, pogroms, but on the whole the> > Arabs , and Muslims > treated the Jewish people much better than the> > Christians have done in > Europe, starting with Merry England ,> > Spain,………> > ..> >> > My mother > tells me that I spoke Krio English and Fullah (with my> > girlfriend > BONGOR, a neighbour’s child.) when I was little.> > From the age of six, > when I arrived in England, I lost Krio and> > English, although I do not > remember any gradual disappearance. It was> > as if it was an > instantaneous disappearance since there was no one> > that> > I could > speak Fullah or Krio with.> >> > Let’s not talk about mother tongues. > There are many. Interest in> > India> > can take you to Sanskrit, just as > I expect you to be polishing off> > your> > Arabic, the language of the > Koran…> >> >> >>> >> From: Momodou Buharry Gassama <[log in to unmask]>> > >> Date: 2007/05/30 on PM 05:52:08 CEST> >> To: > [log in to unmask]> >> Ämne: Re: Zionism> >>> >> Cornelius,> >> > DOUBLETHINK! DOUBLETHINK! DOUBLETHINK! You wrote:> >>> >> "Which first so > called answer? I am not aware of having answered> > any> >> of the twenty > questions yet, and now, I no longer intend to do so."> >>> >> You wrote > earlier:> >>> >> "If it’s Ok with you, I intend to answer all the > questions, but> > would> >> like to start with question 12, because I’ve > got the answer to the> >> first part of that question based on a lecture > that I attended on> > 30th> >> October 2005, by Professor Mark Cohen ( > Princeton) who is an> > authority> >> on that question."> >>> >> Do you > believe yourself? If you want to bow out because you have> > been> >> > caught, do so with grace. (It would be sad though because now that> > you> > >> have informed us that you are an academic and intellectual, I would> >> > have loved to see your stuff)> >>> >> You wrote:> >>> >> "You telling an > intellectual and academic that he can’t talk.> > Think?> > I> >> have > answered most of my own questions and suggest that you learn> > to> > do> > >> the same – if you can, knowing as you do, and that I am not your> >> > fountain of truth.> >>> >> Last book read was “For What Tomorrow”> >>> >> > English is my mother tongue. "> >>> >>> >> Wollof, Fula and Jahanka are my > mother tongues. Then I studied> >> English. Even with English being so far > down the line of learned> >> languages, I can still see the contradiction > in your position.> > Simply> >> put, DOUBLETHINK! DOUBLETHINK! > DOUBLETHINK!> >>> >> Buharry.> >>> >>> >> ----Original Message----> >> > From: [log in to unmask]> >> Date: May 30, 2007 5:04:03 PM> > >> To: [log in to unmask]> >> Subj: Re: Zionism> >>> >> Dear > All,> >>> >> Which first so called answer?> >>> >> I am not aware of > having answered any of the twenty questions yet,> > and> >> now, I no > longer intend to do so. I may change my mind , but you> > too> >> must > have a basic level of competence in understanding simple> > things.> >>> > >>> >> You telling an intellectual and academic that he can’t talk. > Think?> > I> >> have answered most of my own questions and suggest that > you learn> > to> > do> >> the same – if you can, knowing as you do, and > that I am not your> >> fountain of truth.> >>> >> Last book read was “For > What Tomorrow”> >>> >> English is my mother tongue. I did study English, > philosophy and> > that> >> more than anything else gave me a foundation to > pursue such> > interests.> >>> >> I just looked at this interesting item, > which I’m sure will> > interest> >> you too.> >>> >> > http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=4853#comments> >>> >> About whatever > question bothers you had better look for your own> >> answers. Ask you > religious leader(s), the one(s) that you follow. I> >> have grappled with > problems that are much more complicated than> >> whatever it is you are > trying to say. I have a pile of books, still> >> unopened, so now let me > retire with this introduction by Dan Cohn-> >> Sherbok that’s been on my > shelf some three years now, I’ve read a> >> couple of his other books:> > >>> >> http://www.amazon.com/Fifty-Key-Jewish-Thinkers-Cohn-> >> > Sherbok/dp/0415126282> >>> >> I have now decided that I will not waste my > time being nice.> >>> >> I do not have a problem with either Islam or the > Jewish people and> > I> >> am probably not intelligent enough to make you > or anyone else> >> understand anything. I wish that I could have got > across and hope> > that> >> you will get the answers that you seek from > people much better> >> qualified to provide the answers that may satisfy > you, the way that> > Abu> >> Wafa al-Taftanzani satisfied me in Cairo, and > dispelled the last> > little> >> cloud that obscured my understanding. > There was no beating about> > the> >> bush.> >>> >> I don’t have any > questions for Lamin Sanneh either.> >>> >> So please, some people’s > rigorous demands are more difficult to> > meet> >> than others, and here > let me admit defeat, ok?> >>> >> Merci.> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > From: > [log in to unmask]> >> > Date: 2007/05/30 on PM 03:19:54 CEST> >> > To: > [log in to unmask]> >> > Ämne: Re: Zionism> >> >> >> > Your first > so-called answer to the questions is another link of> >> someone else's > opinion. Still waiting for the answers.> >> >> >> > Stop regurgitating the > stuff you are fed and answer the questions> >> using your own opinions if > you can.> >> > J.Joh> >> >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----> >> > > From: Cornelius Edward Hamelberg <[log in to unmask]>> >> > > To: [log in to unmask]> >> > Sent: Wed, 30 May 2007 3:26 am> >> > > Subject: Re: Zionism> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > As Habib wrote, ? i > wish we all simply practice what we are> > thaught> >> , love for> >> > > ach other respect for each other and recognizing that we will all> >> die > one day.?> >> > What?s all this about me not having ?own opinions ? /?only > able> > to> >> regurgitate> >> > hat your Zionist handlers feed you and > what you can google on the> >> net? Answer> >> > he questions and stop > beating about the bush and spewing out> >> irrelevant> >> > ubbledeguck.? > Is that called for? What are you angry about?> >> > ?the list of question > brother Buhari sent to you for your> > masters> >> to answer?> >> > please > relay to your bosses? etc Well, your darling Muhammad is> > not> >> my > boss and> >> > only have ONE BOSS , and HE is the King of Kings of Kings.> > >> > I was not beaten or bullied as a child, so please don?t think> > > that> >> you or anyone> >> > lse is about to succeed in doing that. I was > taught the very> > best> >> manners. I> >> > as born in Freetown, and I > respect and value freedom.> >> > I try to answer your questions as a > courtesy, it?s part of good> >> adab. Humility> >> > oes not need a > disguise ? nor does false pride, that?s why you> > haven?> >> t read any> > >> > oetry from me ? compared to what?> >> > I cannot remember how I felt, > what I thought, what was going on> > in> >> my mind, when> >> > was tying > Hazrat Agha?s shoelaces, except that I was very happy> >> and it was a> >> > > ery important job, so I did it as best I could. Tying a knot on> > the> > >> Sabbath> >> > omes under the classification of melakhah.> >> > I may - > by all standards be less educated , less vocal , and> > less> >> > opinionated> >> > han you, and less competent or able to think , judge,> > > appreciate,> >> decide for> >> > yself and express myself to others > verbally or otherwise, but> > that?> >> s not up to> >> > e to judge and > no professor has ever told me that I was average.> > At> >> Dr.> >> > > urbaksh Terry Graham told me that one has to be quick, to catch> > it> >> > fast. Lenny> >> > hought that mosque visits were making me aggressive, > because of a> >> letter I> >> > rote in Tehran Times.> >> > Since I cannot > share my library with you ? or the Synagogue> > library,> >> or any of> >> > > he periodicals or Newspapers, I send you links.> >> > don?t have to, but > they do contain valuable information, and as> >> for> >> > ropaganda, even > the Encyclopaedia Britannica is not exempt.> >> > When Amos Oz launched > his autobiographical work, he was asked> > about> >> the> >> > esources of > the Hebrew language and he more or less said that> > some> >> things can> > >> > nly be expressed in that language. Some other Sufi-type things> >> > cannot be> >> > xpressed in any language at all, at least not by me.> >> > > ???????????.> >> > This popped up on my regular Leonenet Forum, last night > and I?d> > like> >> to share> >> > hat too.> >> > ot that I don?t have an > opinion about it, I do, I have an opinion> >> (my own)> >> > bout > everything. And know some guys in Ghana and Nigeria, who are> >> bigger > and> >> > uch more opinionated than your Yaya.> >> > hat too was an > opinion:> >> > From our Sierra Leone Forum (I?ve taken the liberty to > share or> >> would you prefer> >> > hat I whisper it in your ear? I?m > sharing it here, because> > yesterday> >> my two> >> > ast postings were > rejected. I only posted seven items yesterday,> >> and I think> >> > hat?s > the maximum allowed in one day. SO I have to be economical> > and> >> > that?s why> >> > t?s here (so that those who were foaming in the mouth > about Paul> >> Wolfowitz can> >> > oam some more about even this:> >> > ? > Released for the 50th anniversary of Ghana ?s independence from> >> > British> >> > olonial rule, the film, Damned by Debt Relief, puts real > freedom,> >> independence> >> > nd serious development on the map.> >> > > Shot in Ghana, the film is a stark reminder of the devastating> >> > conditions> >> > ttached to debt relief following the G8 Gleneagles deal > in 2005,> > not> >> least the> >> > enial of autonomy, degradation of > democracy and low horizons> >> enshrined in so> >> > alled "poverty > reduction" strategies.?> >> > The video:> >> >> >> > www.worldwrite. > org.uk/damned> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > From: [log in to unmask]> > >> > Date: 2007/05/30 on AM 04:22:27 CEST> >> > To: > [log in to unmask]> >> > Ämne: Re: Zionism as a Racist Ideology/ > what's the matter> >> Cornelius?> >> >> >> > What's the matter Corneluis, > you do not have your own> > opinions?> >> Are you only> >> > ble to > regurgitate what your Zionist handlers feed you and what> > you> >> can > google> >> > n the net?> >> > Answer the questions and stop beating about > the bush and> > spewing> >> out> >> > rrelevant gubbledeguck.> >> > J.Joh> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> >> > o > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the> >> Gambia-L > Web> >> > nterface> >> > t: > http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html> >> > To Search in the > Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.> >> > org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l> >> > o contact the List Management, > please send an e-mail to:> >> > [log in to unmask]> >> > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>> > > ________________________________________________________________________> > >> > AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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