Habib, Please do not waste your time giving this Zionist agent any more venue on this list for his useless pursuit. We have seen people like him before and let us relegate his cheap propaganda to the dustbin where it belongs and leave it there. J.Joh -----Original Message----- From: Habib Ghanim <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:06 am Subject: Re: Isreali etc Brother Cornelius hank you for letting me know the great relationships you have had with some alestinians friends of yours and even a potential wife . Like you I and many thers on this forum have condemned all kinds of racism. check it out. whether t is Dafur or south africa or usa or saudi arabia or israel and yes even in alestine. racism like zionism is wrong and two wrongs do not make it right. respect your input but object to the one sided view. There are two sides to ach coin. yes if the so called muslim leaders in the neighbouring countries had ome balls or khutsba if I may use that term , then this problem would have been olved a long time ago. They have the oil power then they could have used it as everage and cut it off as was done by the late king Fiesal ( may he rest in eace). then many would listen but who will when all our leaders care for how ong they will be in power and how much money they have in their swiss bank ccounts or how many women they can abuse. ou make some valid points about Gaza and I blame their lack of vision and unity o stop the pain of the helpless majority , unfortunately . it is only the poor nd the oppressed who always pay the price et me re iterate The jewish religion is not the problem because after all most f us believe in the Torah , the old testament Ingil and the holy Quran - and ll the prophets sent by God to deliver one message - peace . eople just pick portions that suit them to quote and omit the whole paragraph hat shows the full context . hat is the main issue with all our politicians and even with religious so alled scholars and sometimes even us including myself . we tend to have a lind eye to others problems as long as it is not in our backyard. But goodluck n your pursuit of selective thruthfullness pray that that Allah guide us all to sanity and peace for mankind's sake est regards abib > Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 01:12:34 -0400> From: [log in to unmask]> ubject: Isreali etc> To: [log in to unmask]> > Habib, > > (Like Habib oite),> > > You know that I’m not in a Gambian Forum to discuss Zionism. I’d ather > discuss Pan-Africanism.> > But if you bring up such subjects, I will ut in my two cents worth.> > I have Palestinian Muslim friends such as Fah’d hmed, Mustapha Gibril Yamani, > Marxist friends such as Jamal, Christian riends too, friends in Gaza, Nablus, > and have no problem with any of them.> > don’t know any sister Jabou. Who is she? I think that Zionism would be more > part of Hamelech, than berg...... (that was supposed to be a joke) Berg is > nly a mountain……> > There is NOTHING racist about Zionism. Show me where the acism is.> > The slave trade? Darfur? Plenty of racism there.> > I have great ympathy for the Palestinian people. In 1986, I listened to the > Mayor of Gaza, r. Shawaal, at the Swedish Institute of International Affairs. I > was sitting bout a yard opposite him and witnessed him shed tears, big tears > rolled down he cheeks of this big man, as he spoke about the children in the > overcrowded lum that is Gaza, children without playgrounds,. He was > appealing to the wedish government to help them build a harbour so that > they could export heir tomatoes which were otherwise laying in heaps to rot.> > About that time, was also giving sadaka, the little that I had.> > Israel left Gaza, lock, tock, barrel, and see what they are doing. FIRING > rockets into Israel, ausing havoc, instead of settling down to develop their > piece of territory, uilding tunnels through which to smuggle weapons from > Egypt. More trouble.> > f I had wanted to, I could have married a Palestinian woman. Such an > rrangement was in the works. I did not for several reasons, one of them being > hat at this period of the national life of Palestinians, I thought that for > ontinuity of the Palestinian generations, and for better prospects of that > onsciousness continuing it would be better for her to marry a Palestinian > rother……….> > There is a way out. What is the point of blowing innocent people p and going > to hell in the process of creating a so called Islamic State?> > ttp://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&q=Zionism> > In the eantime, just as ultra orthodox people like Sat mar and Neturei Karta > want he Messiah to establish Zion, so too some Muslim voices wonder why > the eighbouring Arab nations keep the Palestinian refugees in camps ( just to > oint an accusing finger at Israel).> Why these refugees cannot become nationals f their host countries.> Which Palestinian is willing to wait for the Mahdi a.s.)? > > > This is the kind of leader that Prof Paul Eidelberg would like us o have:> http://www.israel-commentary.org/> > Whatever new government comes nto force in Israel will take measures that > are more drastic to protect the ives of the Jewish people in Isreal. The > Palestinian leadership could be iped out. What will happen? Sheikh Yasin was > targeted from an Apache elicopter as he left the fajr prayer. Rantisi was > translated from life, and he mobile phone exploded in the ear of engineer > Ayash, the bomb-maker.> ttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6695007.stm> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4813056.stm> > The backers of HAMAS, such as Iran, I do not think want a two-state > olution. They do not want the “Zionist entity” to exist.> > Suppose someone aid that they did not want the Gambia to exist. How would > you go about egotiating with such a person?> > I have a plan. Seriously, I do. Even before amas WON THE ELECTION. But > will they listen?> > This is what a Sierra Leonean oland Bankole Marke wrote:> > “ Pundit dubbed it that God has left Sierra eona> The blind beggar with leprosy and stretched hands> Pursuing sojourners ith fixed eyes expecting alms”> > There too are problems. The Sierra Leone residential and Parliamentary > elections are on 11th August……> > > cornelius amelberg> I think sister Jabou has revealed your true identity in her last esponse ,,> your berg name has zionism written all over it- your boss must pay ou well > for such fabricated stories meant to distract and distort facts and nsult the > real victims .No one has anything against the religion called udiasm , it is > racist zionism that most peace loving and just people are gaint. Please do > some justice to your conscience and put your self in the osition of those > oppresed palestinian peoplewho are being hit from all angles ven from thier > own arab and muslim so called brothers.> > remember that ustice will prevail as we saw in south Africa .why are you so > defensive and vasive i just wish we all think of the helpless victims in those > camps and efugee centers being robbed of thier degnity and honr daily> good night> > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> To nsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web nterface> at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html> > To Search in he Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l> o contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:> [log in to unmask]> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ o unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web nterface t: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l o contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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